¶ Intro / Opening
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¶ Introduction to Dragon Lore
Hi everyone, I'm Josh and this is the M. Currents and trends through a mythic lens, the podcast where we explore and
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2025 was, for me, in many ways, a year of dragon. Somehow I seemed to repeatedly find myself traveling through land that holds dragon story. I didn't plan it, but everywhere my family and I turned it seemed, there was a dragon. A dragon breathing as highland mist. A dragon's spine protruding along the horizon. I'd ask, what's the story of this place? And sure enough, somewhere a dragon would emerge from the deep pools of that story.
As if to say see, we are everywhere. Remember us. Remember how all this all this mythos, this is all in some ways dragon story. For me, this episode is the fulfillment of a long spiraling dream. For dragons shaped my early life, my early imagination. There were dragons in the Japanese and Tibetan Buddhist stories of my upbringing. Dragons and the drawings I drew and in the games that I played.
I grew up during the first wave of Dungeons and Dragons popularity. Those kids in season one of Stranger Things sitting around the table in nineteen eighty three playing D and D. That was me, right down to the haircut. Yes, there's been dragon story at play in my life for a long time. But to do an episode on dragons, on elemental lizards, on world serpents, on all that coils
¶ Dragons: More Than Mythical Beasts
is not simply an exercise in reliving childhood fantasy. For the dragon is a lot more than a category of mythical beasts. The dragon is, shall we say, the serpentine spiraling power that moves through this world. To know the dragon is to know how the power moves. How it expresses, what its coiling patterns are, and what we do with that power, how we treat it, if we vilify it or praise it, how we channel it and pass it on.
has deep relevance in a time when socio historical patterns are re weaving and forgotten monsters are waking. And old power structures crumbling and new ones rising. So you can consider these dragon episodes the second and third in the episode series on power. And to make it clear up front, these episodes will involve considerable overlap between dragon story and serpent story. And I'll be spiraling from dragon to serpent myth because they are deeply intertwined. They are both set their heart.
Stories about spirals. Stories about energy.
¶ Reimagining Power and Community
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¶ Feeling the Dragon in Wales
This episode is dedicated to my kids, my two boys. May you know dragon wonder in your lives. In June of twenty twenty five, my family and I visited the UK, and we were invited by some friends at Kai Mabon in Wales, in Snowia, to climb a hill named Dinos Em. Dinos Emris is the place, of course, where the red and white dragons of Welsh legend were once captured in vessels and buried deep inside the heart of the mountain. The place where a young, fatherless boy named Murray.
told King Vortigan, if he stopped to dig at that very spot, he would find two sleeping.
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We went to find them.
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A wooden bench carved in the shape of a dragon. A serpentine stony river. There are Whispers everywhere. And my sons, my two boys, are getting excited now. And they're asking, are there real dragons here? Are we going to see real dragons? So I bring them close and I say, I'm not sure if you're
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Sometimes the dragon isn't something you can see with your eyes.
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We make our way to the top. Dinos Emris. of the mountains, that hill perched above the waters.
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That hill all.
And growing.
And the mists passing back and forth like a great creature's breath.
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Bright eye. My youngest son looks at me with eyes all shining there upon the mountain. And he says I think I feel the dragon in my heart. Do you feel it? Do you feel the dragon? Do you feel it, my son?
I feel it too.
¶ Dragons as Land and Weather
and sweat bluster. In the scaly bark of the
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It's in her fucking.
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Look across this ridgeline. We're used to thinking of dragons as lizards, right? That are what thirty, forty, fifty feet from head to tail? If that's not the full picture. What if the dragon
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The rocky ridgeline is its spine. What if the arc of its battle Way down into the valley below only to rise up in a great reptilian hump.
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Mists.
Amen.
Roaring as the winds. Branching as the river systems of the world. Flashing as lightning, bellowing as thunder. With scales, say the Hawaiian tales, that sparkle silver and gold like With scales like sun or With red scales and black scales, some traditions say. Scales like feathers with scales like rainbows, scales like murals. The dragon.
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But wait, I thought we were talking about dragons. Like, you know, storybook dragons that capture princesses and hoard treasure. And now we're talking about whole mountain ranges. I thought dragons were fire breathing lizards. And there are also rain giving serpents. Born in the deep roots of the mountains. Born in the accumulation of water. When waters accumulate the Taoist texts. Form a deep.
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And from the
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Serpent in the water cycle. Resting in the minimal. Guarding the end. Crawling slowly through underground rivers, sleeping dormant in the deep abyss. before waking with great evaporating wings. Gnashing its teeth in great grinding thunderclaps, releasing.
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¶ Cosmic Dragons and Spiraling Energy
Such dragons are to be found everywhere. They lend their names to numerous places, and even to the names of countries like Bhutan, whose full name means prosperous land of the Thunder Dragon.
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And this is the beauty of this nebulous and impossibly vast category. Dragons aren't just fire spouting lizards. Yes, there are fire dragons, and there are water dragons and cloud dragons. There are wood dragons of springtime walk through a ponderosa forest just after a rain, through the display of gleaming segmented bark and see the scales of the dragon. story is vast. There is dragon story that is about cosmic sized creators. And there is dragon story that is about weather.
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And guard springs, and there is dragon story finer than all this about patterns. About all that pulses.
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At the pulsing movements of waves in and out of the bay, the time lapse movements of this pulsing Swallowing regresous. Heaving, gathering in. and forth yet again gaze upon the dragon.
Springing.
Erupting outwards, now hoarding, now releasing, now the withholdery.
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See it in the spiral of work.
Lunar ellipse.
See it in whirlpools, see it in curls, drawing into itself in eternal centripetal coils. The dragon, says the Shuen Jietze, is the chief of scaled creatures. It can be hidden, it can be manifest, it can conceal or reveal. In spring it ascends to the heavens, in autumn it sinks into the deep. Concealing, revealing, coiling in, spiraling out. These are the serpentine dynamics of the dragon.
¶ Understanding Spirals and Coils
So we don't understand this mythic category of dragons unless we understand that which spirals and coils. We don't understand the feathered serpent, the rainbow serpent, the moo, the aido huido, the great shimmering anaconda. We don't understand it unless we understand the dynamic. Of that which spirals and coils. Just as we don't understand the world. The trajectories of history. the interlocking fractal scales of community and society, the dynamics of power, the risings and fallings of empire,
unless we understand spirals and coils. We don't know land. And seasons and river systems, and the delicate relationships that cause the shift in the direction of the wind, and the emergence of a particular flower, that signals that the venom levels in the mouths of the serpents will be higher. We don't understand these delicate relationships unless we truly understand spirals and coils. Just as we don't know ourselves, the patterns that play themselves out in our lives.
the skin of the feathered serpent of our lives. We don't know our habits, our tendencies. We don't know breath, we don't know mind, we don't know feeling and what it truly is and how to navigate its waves unless we understand that which spirals and coils. O beloved.
Dragon.
And which of these dragon spirals needs to be celebrated, and which needs to be fed, and which needs to be summoned or sconced? Which needs to be befriended and sung to, which needs a touch of taming, and which needs to be lopped off right at the head. The dragon. Feel me? Dracaris.
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¶ Dragons Across Cultures and Time
Dragons are everywhere. Have you noticed that nearly all cultures speak of some form of dragon? The dragon lives on all six inhabited continents. Finds its way to Welsh flags and Flemish family crests and Slovenian road signs, arises as a benevolent rain being in the east. Soars across the steps. Finds itself locked in battles with fierce thunder deities from Avistan all the way to the Arctic Circle. We all know Dragon Story, if we pause to think about it.
No matter what continent you are listening from, the land you inhabit holds dragon story.
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And quite possibly it was shaped by dragons.
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Possibly there are sleeping dragons. In it. And these dragons never seem to lose their appeal. The dragon always gets our attention. Those Peter Jackson Hobbit movies were what I would call a total abomination, except for Smaug the Dragon. Gold bellied, gleaming eyed, hissing breather. The verge of falling flat until Daenerys Targaryen emerged from the room.
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Every generation some writer or TV producer resuscitates the dragon and animates it for us in new and terrifying ways. From the Dragonriders of Pern, which shaped my dragon story as a child, to Fourth Wing and all the various spin-off iterations of modern softcore dragon lore. Dragons have perpetual staying power. We go back to dragons again and again. We fear them, adore them. Lay them, ride them, in fact, every texture of our relationship with the world.
We seem to have in our relationship with dragons. And that's not a coincidence.
¶ The Reality of Dragons
And of course, there's a question here right at the beginning that must be addressed. that must be lopped off right at its hydra head, so that this dragon of a conversation doesn't get mired in unnecessary stagnant water. That question that always comes when people realize that Dragon Story has existed everywhere in all cultures for all time.
The modern question, what Peter Brooke might call the deadly question, the question that slays so many imaginal dragons just in the asking of it. You know the question. Are dragons real? To which I will offer this When I was fifteen, I heard the venerable Kalu Rimpochet. Tell a story about a journey he took to a remote mountain hermitage. It was an arduous climb to the top. And when he reached the top there was a storm.
And in the midst of that storm he was trying to clear out a space for meditation. When what did he encounter? Not just one, not two, but dozens of dragons. There in the flashing light, storm dragons, gold and silver writhing dragons as he described them, Are you saying that dragons are real? And he replied, matter of factly, surprised almost that the question was even asked. I mean we have them in Tibet. Don't you have them here?
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People who deny the existence of dragons, says Ursula K. Le Guin, are often eaten by dragons. From within And Tolkien said something to the effect of dragons aren't real in the same way that fish aren't real. So forget for a moment the modern Western mind that wants to categorize everything as real or unreal.
There's going to be a whole lot more on that in an upcoming episode. Forget for a moment the programming that says that a discussion on dragons is a discussion about the existence or non existence of a thirty or forty or fifty foot winged lizard. And let us assume that yes, the dragon is a category of the real, that in the spirals and coils of faceted regenerating natural serpentine relationships А бинг резід.
And that being can be described as a tangible reptilian creature that resides in the world's clouds and the world's eyes. And it can be described as a serpentine. pattern present in the very fabric of creation. It can be described in a thousand ways. There are patterns at play in this universe of pattern that are monstrous, sublime, alluring, inviting. Entrapping, vivifying, regenerating. This life, one could say, is an ongoing navigation of inner and outer weather patterns.
And where there are weather patterns, there are dragons.
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¶ Dragon: Creator and Land Shaper
Dragons in ancient China, says David Hinton, embodied the awesome force of change. A dragon was in constant transformation, writhing through all creation and all destruction, shaping itself into the ten thousand things, tumbling through their traceless. The dragon invites us into a different way of seeing. A way of seeing coiling connections and synchronous animacies. A way of seeing what can only be described as Energy. For yes, the dragon is a lizard, a serpent, a distinct little being.
A guardian of the A sometimes benevolent, sometimes malevolent creature. And the dragon. is the land itself. Merlin tells Arthur The Dragon is everywhere. It is everything. What are you afraid of? I don't know. I tell you what's out there. Yes, please. The dragon. A beast. That if you were to see it whole and all complete in a single glance, it would burn you to cinders. Where is it? It is everywhere. This is everything!
It's
Gales glisten in the bark of trees, its roar is heard in the wind, and its fault tongue strikes like easily. I like it. Yes, that's it. How can I
What should I must-
Just like do nothing. Rest in the arms of the dragon. Dream Rest in the arms of the dragon. Dream. Imagine as the dragon does. Imagine new worlds into being. In many, many traditions the dragon, the hybrid lizard world serpent, is creator, land shaper, geo generator, fertility bringer, inextricably linked with Says Jeremy Narby in his book The Cosmic Serpent, a stunning number of creator gods are represented in the form of a cosmic serpent.
Not only in Amazonia, Mexico and Australia, but in Sumer, Egypt, Persia, India, the Pacific, Crete, Greece, and Scandinavia. These aren't storybook dragons. These are primal creation deities, vast as the land itself. Mythical serpents, says Narbi, are often enormous. In the image from Benin, the serpent surrounds the entire earth.
In Greek mythology the monster serpent Typhon touches the stars with its head. Chuang Su says that the length of the great cosmic fish bird being is who knows how many thousand miles. Hindu mythology also provides an example of a serpent of immeasurable proportions. known as Shesha, the thousand-headed snake that floats on the cosmic ocean. while the twin creator beings Vishnu and Lakshmi recline in its coils.
Ananta Shha, the eternal world serpent, the primal potential power of creation itself afloat on the infinite ocean. The sense that there is a dragon present right there in the creation process is expressed across many traditions. In one ancient Taoist creation story, Hinton tells us, quote, Primal emptiness separated into heaven and earth. That's how it all began. Before long, a pair of dragons emerged. Root Breath and Lady Shivoy.
What beautiful names. The very core of creation born of two dragons. Quote, the appearance of these dragons was the beginning of the ever-changing diversity of things. we know as the cosmos. Turns out this very world is serpentine. The very patterns of creation can be described as a dragon. Which can thrash and heave as chaos or can spiral into webs of profound support and
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How it is harnessed, how it is.
How it is.
¶ The World's Serpentine Nature
So the primal serpent Shesha. turned into a family of unruly serpent beings. calms himself over thousands of years of meditation, and Brahma, pleased with his devotion, Offers this primal serpent the task of coiling himself into the netherworld and supporting the very earth. In many traditions, the dragon serpent, that coiling regenerative pattern at the heart of the cosmos, is the support of everything.
In West African derived voodoo traditions, the serpent is named Dambala. Says Leah Gordon, quote, In the beginning there was a vast serpent. whose body formed seven thousand coils.
Then the
From the earth to envelop the sky. scattered stars in the firmament and wound its taut flesh down the mountains to create riverbeds. It shot thunderbolts to the earth to create the sacred thunderstorm. From its deepest core it released the sacred waters to fill the earth with life. As the first rains fell, a rainbow. And Dambala took her Aida Wido as his wife. And so they are forever landed. And the rainbow.
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So sometimes creation is the result of the movements of a great primordial dragon serpent. Sometimes creation comes from the body of the dragon itself. The dragon body ruptures and the land is formed. In Near Eastern traditions, Kiamat is split open, creating the primal foundation of the cosmos. Mardo. Split Tiamat like a shellfish into two parts. Half of her he set up and sealed it as the sky.
He drew a line and made a crossbar. He established the upper waters and the lower waters. So the dragon, the great rainbow serpent, is associated with the body of the land. And even more specifically with the movement of the With the fact that the land manifests in waves, whirls, and convolutions. The upheaving of glacial moraines, the tracks of grinding rocks, the churning of land over time. The dragon is visible in the shape of the land.
And invites us to deepen our relationship with cycles of movement, with regenerative patterns. For when you know its movements and its patterns, you know something of land.
¶ Indigenous Serpent Lore: Land Shaping
We all agree, says Tyson Yonkoporta, speaking of his extended aboriginal community, that there are great serpents running through the living body of this land as threads binding us together. In a patchwork quilt of biocultural diversity, and there are many traditions who know this about the land, who've seen the serpent in the land. Have you seen it? The serpent in the land? Have you seen the coy oil? this great dynamic serpentine water dragon.
Have you felt the movement of silt and soil along ancient waterways as a great shedding and regeneration of serpent skin? Have you grocked the bloodstream of the dragon in the patterns of estuaries and river basins? Nungar Elder No Nanop speaks of the geologic and geographic interplay of the two great serpents of his region.
Well we call the one here in my dad's country the Wagar. And we have a a little song about it'cause it meets one that comes from the east of us. And out in their language they call it Bimerah. And Bimera follows all the waterways to the coast. And when it rains out there of course all the disturbance of the soil creates a reddish colour because of the ochres and the sand and and all of that out on the inland country. And then it runs to the sea, to the ocean. And as it's coming in.
Crosses an eight and border of the inland people.
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And upon reaching him.
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The major tribute.
that all this disturbed soils come in on. it flattens the area because you have the great Wagar
Which can look at the
the ocean, the salty water, and then the bimra lives in the fresh. And then there's times when
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the fresh water and they float
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And one of the major tributaries that we have in WA in the I grew up from that. It's called the grenade. We just simply know it as Bukara.
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Serpents made each other in the state.
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Five and then
And as they're doing that, they're
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Perfectly flat and then tiny little tributaries running through it. Major water course that's flowing through that and making its way to the sea. So there is a song.
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But it goes Bem-a-ra-ba-na, bem-a-ra-ba-na, waka-ra-ba-me-nye, bem-a-ra-ba-na, waka-ra-ba-me-nye.
Be more now.
Bimura Barna Bimerabana Wagarba mean you bimerabana wagarba. And they're hitting each other, flattening the soil and the bimera. when the rain falls out on its country, the barna part is the soil and the ochres mixing together. And the rain falls and then it washes it all the way to the So when your major tributaries are at their highest flood level You have flots of
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Country right.
The tributary.
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And as it slowly goes down And the people out on Yamaji country for the great walk all the way to the ocean on their own.
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So it prevents fighting over country.
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The rainbow serpents, the land shapers, the water gatherers and water releasers are tangible things. They're not ideas. Their struggle, their thrashing about changes land and leaves aprons. They wriggle and writhe, they curve and twist, they are felt in the movie. Interplay of waters over time. and flow of breath. In the spot.
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¶ My Encounter with the Rainbow Serpent
Sometimes they are just beneath the surface. Sometimes they are buried. And sometimes they reveal enough of themselves that they are not. A moment, perhaps. Scene.
Back there in eighty seven as a park ranger. And I'm out at the place where my mum was conceived. a big water hole. And the people that are the traditional owners of that water hole, the message was they sang the spirit down when the tall ships came and left it way down under the ground. And one day it would be sung back up again when there was an amicable arrangement. And they are all And they would come together and
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And I was working with
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And
We went to a water hole together. and as we're at that water We'd just done the mundane. that rangers do. The toilets we'd cleaned up around the fireplaces and emptied the rubbish bins and I was just driving. I was stunned to see the sky turn orange. I mean it was
And then red.
And then back to orange.
Then green.
And maybe Violet, I'm not sure.
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and down into the water to see if it was breaking the water.
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was looking for something real as I looked up and saw this huge eye. I was just so peaceful. It's uh
Okay.
Settle down. And as I settled down, I watched in amazement at some point. A long, long time. Just like that. And it was like a serpent and it slowly sank into the water. 'Cause Bruce saw the look on my face, he said, and I just rolled up alongside him in the forest.
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and just stared at whatever he saw. And later we can pin.
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So I have And to this day.
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to be an aboriginal. I hear the old people singing. Don't even know the language. It just completely transformed. A person who knows without any shadow of doubt. That the ancient Aboriginal
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You cannot call it the dream. Because that only locks you into one part of it. Because the dreaming Not only now it's not only way back. It is also way out in the future. And guess what? It's all the places in between both of them. And right here to now.
And where exactly was the rainbow serpent in this story? what was the extent of its body? Was it the pool of water? Was it the orange and yellow sky above? Was it the head breaking the surface of the water? Was it the eye? Was it all of it? Was it the meeting point?
Ever and the being.
Was it the stirred motion of the in between spaces? Was it the pattern of the mountain? Was it dancing in all things that move in waves?
And that's the nature of this place. And that's how that beautiful serpent that everyone refers to as that belongs and inhabits.
And it has a lot
Because every single colour has its own vibration. The vibration of the sun, which is the gamma. on this end, the vibration of the radio waves on this end. And then of course you have the first of the colors.
Alright.
And they all have their own vibration. And then the next one is the
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Then the red, the orange.
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The indigo and the violet. And we live in that space. And we call it The rainbow. If we see it at night, we call it Walgawa. Every of whom we have.
¶ Dragon, Rainbow, and Waveforms
the body of the serpent then can be Oops. Yes. in all of the wave-like forms, the full vibrational spectrum of waveforms. Imagine every waveform in the cosmos has its own spiraling direction. The serpent and the rainbow. The word for dragon in Chinese, long, comes from a root word that means bow, says Veronica Strang. That which is bent in the shape of a bow. In the Kundalini traditions of India, the primal serpent power is associated with the goddess whose name means the bent one.
This is a basic recognition of how energy, how the power of nature manifests in bending, arcing, writhing waves. The dragon is code for all that bends and bows. And so the dragon is everywhere. Why is the world so often spoke of in draconic in serpentine terms? Because the world is It moves, it spirals, it is dynamic. It is one but made up of It sheds and regenerates. It undulates and as it undulates its facets shimmer.
Culture upon culture holds this vision of serpentine world being Fractal or reflective. Circling, spiraling creator energy. The dragon exemplified in so much cave art and so many artistic visionings as what? As a wavy line. This isn't a world of straight lines. This isn't a world of just spacious stable nothingness.
¶ Dragons in DNA and Sacred Water
It is a world of dynamisms. And that dynamism expresses in waves. So the serpent is there in the vastest galactic spirals. in constellations like Draco, which spirals around the pole star like a dragon clutching a And it is there in the tiniest weaving threads of creation. in the atomic and cellular matrix itself. So at the deepest, most intimate, tiniest heart of reality, There's not nothing. There is a dragon.
There is something serpentine hissing, rattling with vibration, unfolding in patterned. There is life. in the most basic cellular processes of life. There is a dragon. Right. From Narbi The connections with DNA are obvious and work on all levels. DNA is indeed shaped like a long single and double serpent, or a wick of twisted flax. It is a double vital force that develops from one to several, and its place is water.
That's why bodies of water are so important, Josh. You know, you look at a body of water. Actually when we get to a body of water, we actually throw a pebble in, but our people would always throw a pebble. The pebble actually breaks. An assemblage. And as the water becomes corraled.
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you have some electromagnetic activity taking place. Then when you have the complete body, that's the body of the surface. And when you've got the body of the serpent, you've got the serpent's attention. And then what you do.
Wow.
For the young ones they wipe their brown.
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And under their own.
And that puts their DNA in the
into the water.
And when it's one complete body in a little bit of a little bit of a little bit
That's the servant.
Ignise you. And when you do it again, guess what? It knows you better. And if you've got someone with you that's completely different. what it's already got recorded, then it knows they're with you. the correct protocol.
Talk to that right.
And let it know that you're just here to learn. Don't wanna do any harm. Please keep us safe. That's the sort of thing we That's why the rainbow server.
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¶ Serpent as Water and Landscape Deity
We don't need imaginate. Because
I've seen it.
And and when you see it, I mean Аааа, нет.
Can't explain it.
It's just the honour of being born and being a human.
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Every answer you need to your questions just comes flowing through.
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And your mind says, I need to know and understand this. There it is. Straight away.
Across the world, the dragon, the rainbow serpent, the mo', the anaconda is deeply associated with the water cycle. And here's where the modern mind latches onto something it can hold on to and says I've got it. The serpent is a metaphor for the water. Serpent lore is hydrology. And that's A nice start, but it's not quite it. And I'm not an expert on this, but I'll say perhaps The river can be part of the expression of what the serpent is. Of the body of the serpent.
And sometimes the serpent appears as the spectral play of the water of the river. And sometimes the serpent is vaster than the river. It's the whole set of relationships that feed.
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And the stories told of it. Over the river.
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Lizards. Genius Loki, the spirit.
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Spirits were known to be strong. were marked with serpent images. The inscription read to the spirit of the
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Hard spring.
Nagas dwell at the bottoms of the water. Mo'o reptilian dragon beings in Hawaiian tradition. are associated with bodies of water. Mo'o, often translated as dragons, with their shining, iridescent, pelescent scales. Moho with green and yellow scale. Mo'ol with scales that are weapons, scales that are medicines. beings of water that are not just water themselves but are often visible, like so many dragons are, in jagged landscape feature.
Have you seen them? In the play of the light and the water? In the writhing forms of the lava rock. There's one who hangs out at Nuanu Pali Cliff on Oahu, says Maria Lohani Brown. The scales above his right eye are red and those above his left are black. When placed on someone else's Scales allow that person to see what is far away. They're everywhere when you start looking. Mo with detachable tails that can be used as weapons or bestowed as gifts.
Sometimes you can even find them surfing in the bay, like Kalamainu, a surfing water dragon whose surfboard is her own lizard tongue. How metal is that?
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¶ The Paradoxical Dragon Nature
These reptilian beings are multifaceted in nature. They are powerful. They give life, but they also take life. They are generous, but they also hoard and keep. They flow, but sometimes they restrict flow. The paradoxical nature of serpentine being which is very close to the paradoxical nature of water itself, is important in understanding dragon and serpent men. In her book on Mo, Marie Alohalani Brown speaks of the nature of these reptilian beings.
Like any other class of deities, reptilian beings' interactions with humans may be helpful or harmful or both. Because Moo are freshwater deities, when investigating them we should keep the life giving and death dealing properties of water in mind. Because as a collective they embody most, if not all of its attributes. Mo, also like water, are shapeshifters. They can in a limited capacity change their forms to suit their moods or aims.
They can be beneficent or malevolent, protect us, nourish us, to seduce us or destroy us. Mull are powerful. And awe inspiring. A few moo do have a water related form, such as fog. A kind of rain. Or the power to control clouds or water. As a rule, their relationship with water is most evident in terms of where they live. Significantly, moo are generally associated with specific bodies of water or damp places and attributed with distinct dispositions that tend to parallel these locations.
And I want to highlight one thing she said there. Reptilian interactions can be helpful or harmful or both. This is important because it gets us out of the binary question are dragons good or evil and into a more nuanced understanding. That dragons, serpent beings, reptilian water spirits are as textured and multifaceted as the world itself. Quote Tradition holds that when you come across a body of fresh water in a secluded area, and everything is eerily still,
You should not linger, for you have stumbled across the home of a mole. When the plants are yellowed and the water covered with a greenish yellow froth, the mo is at home. If so, you should leave quickly, lest the mo' make itself known to you to your detriment. It might eat you or take you as a lover. Either way, Yes, Moho, Nagas, Dragons, Yakaruna are not always out for In the Amazon, Stephen Bayer talked about the book.
They say that, quote, when fishermen do not return, when husbands disappear, when young girls do not come home at night or become mysteriously pregnant, the answer is clear. Seduced and abducted by the erotic creatures of the uncanny depths. Dragons have mood. Dragons have temperament. There are dragons. A varying disposition. Just as there are many ways the spirals of the world express, and there are places that are ferocious.
Yeah.
And there are gentle. dreaming places that hide a deeper ferocity. An encounter with a dragon.
can be many
Some meet dragons and leave bearing great treasure. Others do not leave unscathed. Just as it is. We encounter this world. And we do not leave unscathed.
¶ The World as a Terrifying Dragon
The dragon. All the paradoxical textures of this world of what we're doing.
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So the world in great dragon creation myths is described as serpents, as dragons. Not simply because it spirals and coils and sheds and regenerates. It is described as serpentine because it is dangerous. paradoxical, both beautiful and terrifying, often at once. There is a beauty to deep water, there is a peril to deep water. The world, nature, the animate power is beautiful. And it is terrifying. The world serpent, you may have encountered this, the world serpent has a forked tongue.
It has two sides. It gives us life and it devours us. The world like a vast jawed serpent will swallow us too. And sometimes we love this beautiful shimmering world, this terrifying world. This ecstatic world, this devouring world. Sometimes we love it. And sometimes when it presents its devouring side, we don't like it very much.
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Reptilian, rather than say, a cuddly little mammal. There's a reason it's not the world mouse or the world marmot or the world beaver. It's the world dragon, the world serpent. Because nature's not just beautiful and warm and cozy and familiar. Yes, it is familiar in that we recognize at the base of our brains and the core of our spirit, in the deep of our dreams, we recognize something reptilian. We recognize life. We recognize the world of constantly spiraling patterns. We recognize the
The world you could say through deep ancestral lizard eyes. But that reptilian soul of the world is frightening.
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it is us but not quite us. We are it but not quite it. It is other in the same way reptilian things Cold-blooded creatures are other to us. It is so familiar, this world. We are so inextricably part of it. Our bodies made of it, our lives explained. expressions of its fractal scale patterns. And yet... It is also other. It is deep. Cold. unflinching in its commitment to death and devouring. The rivers rise in Texas. Dozens are swept away. It's a tragedy.
Yeah.
Children swept away. This is the paradox of the world dragon. The paradox of nature, the great devourer and the great giver.
¶ Dragon: Birth, Death, Regeneration
this world. A monster. The world is reptilian in its cruelty. You ever seen footage of a snake swallowing a mouse or a hamster? And because of the shape of the unhinged jaw, the snake has what looks to be a smile on its face. The hamster's limbs are all splayed out helpless as it's being slowly digested, and the snake is smiling. Nature is a cold blooded killer.
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Who will kill, eventually, every single one of us? This world dragon sweeps away lives by the million. That's what it is. It births us out of its own coiling body, expresses us as its own individuated scales, allows us to witness the beauty and its furnished. Expressions, gives us voices to sing back to it, and serpentine nervous systems to feel all its scaly nuances. And then it sheds its skin. destroys us as we know us and recycles us and makes way for something new.
This is the monster. This is the dragon. Tiamat, terrifying and beautiful. So there are beautiful dragons and there are monstrous dragons. And there are dragons both monstrous and beautiful. There are dissonant dragons that clash and thunder, and there are clashing dragons who struggle and strive. Dragons battle in the Countryside proclaims the IJ, their blood black and yellow, colours of heaven and earth.
To stare into the reptilian eyes of the dragon is to stare into the abyss of nature itself. The roaring abyss and the roar of the dragon is all the groans that have ever left. Groans of ecstasy and the floor. It is the roar of the colour.
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Flame out and then Why are you Feared in some traditions?
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fright.
¶ Dragons Embodying Time and Ancestry
What do we do when faced with the reality, the awesome reality of time? For the dragon, the serpent is time. How could it not be?
Yeah.
It is all things that spiral. And time surely spirals. In the Mesoamerican tradition, says David Bowles, Omateoto, the Lord of Time, in his spirit form.
Yeah.
is a dragon like fire serpent. whose coiling body matched the circular cycling of the ages. Eventually, as the complex wheels of time were deciphered, he would establish the two calendars that govern life in Mesoamerica. Solar and sacred years interlocking, ever turning. The dragon called time keeps turning, keeps churning, keeps swirling, keeps weaving. as past, present, and future are braided together.
Through time all this is braided together, this web of relationships, these patterns of being, this serpent spine. Hawaiian cultural practitioner Kanani Aton quotes Kailiohe Kame Akua as saying this about the Mo'o, about the dragon.
The Mo Dragon is a representative of time. It begins in tomorrow, the dawn that has yet to come. The eyes of the dragon look for a star to fix upon, always searching for guidance for the family. The front feet of the dragon are Naopio, the young children of the family, always restless, always changing position, always in motion. The middle feet of the dragon are the parents, Kamakua, the solid force of the family, the providers of food, the home, the ones that take care of the young.
Then there are the hind feet of the dragon, Nakupuna, the grandparents. Behind the Kupuna Is Kaivi, the bone or the ancestors, who have passed out of body. They help the family in ways beyond the physical realm, carrying and protecting. me and guiding from the spiritual side of the rainbow. Each position is in preparation for the next position. Each person is a small part of the whole, yet each part is integral and necessary for the whole to be complete.
I love this vision. Do you feel it? The spiraling dragon of ancestry, of time? I heard Uncle Samka I speak of this great dragon, its front feet roving, its long tail winding across the ocean, across the vast Pacific. deep into the place of memory. But unless you have eldership, parental guidance,
that foundation that comes with the middle part of the dragon. Then the front feet simply churn forward for the sake of churning forward. There's no anchor, no stability, Without the long tale of ancestral connection. Of slow wisdom. The dragon is rudderless, frenetic, roving this way and that.
Progress for the sake of progress, a modern world built to amplify the hungers of the young and eager, but to give them no direction other than to funnel them into endless consumption, or send them out onto battlefields to die. That's all the front feet know how to do. If we focus on one part of the dragon. at the expense of another. If we focus on the consuming mouth without the anchoring. Or the quick front feet without the steadier middle feet, or the ever-seeking eyes.
The body to back it up. Then the Law gets upended, and all kinds of unbalanced energetics ensue. All kinds of roving algorithms thrashing about like a severed gecko's tail.
¶ The Dragon as Cosmic Law
For the dragon, the rainbow serpent, the Australian Aboriginal traditions will tell us, is law itself. The dragon is law, it is the dynamic architecture of the cosmos through which nature expresses and responds in cycles. The serpent, says Tyson Yankoporta, became the law in the land, which we understand as a flow that governs the complexity of right relations in living systems. Right relations in living systems, so that if there is overstep or violation of law the serpent's coils respond.
They arc back stronger, they thrash more violently, and there are repercussions. There are geologic disruptions, communal disruptions, internal disruptions. This is not so much the sign of an evil dragon appearing out of nowhere to threaten us, and much more of an indication that we have crossed a line. We have failed to honor the cycles and spirals of nature. The fractal scale pattern of law. And now there needs to be a rebalancing. We have subdued a dragon.
that is rising up now, more pronounced than before. The coils of the serpent are the wave pattern of cause and effect. You feel me? Have you met it the great dragon of karma? This great snarling dragon of cause and effect had King Cadmos begging for her return to boundary. in the end. Cadmos who sowed the teeth of a slain dragon. a monstrous war dragon of Ares into Mediterranean soil, and then somehow expected that the family lines that sprouted from those teeth.
would be anything other than monsters.
Yeah.
and after those family lines exhausted themselves in spirals of conflict and war and Cadmos begged the To turn him into a dragon. You hear the dragon in that story? You hear its warning. You hear its fire. The coils of a story.
Yeah.
the arc, the spirals of story This too is the dragon. For the dragon beloveds. And story is a living drag.
¶ Story as a Living Dragon
In Hawaiian tradition, the word for story, and in particular lore, myth, story of the ancestors and the gods, this type of story is Moolo. Which can be translated quite directly as dragon talk Lizard Speech. Snakish, as they say in Estonia. Here's Canani again. speaking the words of Kaili Ohe Kame Ekua, describing how the dragon spirals through story, through all aspects of cultural life.
To understand how important this dragon is to our family, we see how it is used in our language Mo O Lelo, our history and tradition. Mo'o Leo, our pathway.
Oh oh ho.
our genealogy chat Mo'opuna, our descendants. Mo'o wini, a vision, and moo vai vai to keep an account of something. So mo'o covers all parts of our lives. We are mo'.
So you see, says David Hinton, in his foreword to the Yi Ching, we are descended from dragons. We have dragon hearts pumping dragon blood, dragon minds thinking dragon thought. This is our story, and story is a living dragon. Story arises from the primal spirals of the world. from the undulant voice of the winds and waters, from the hissing, frothing, tumbling wave story of the world itself, And then the story itself has a serpentine body.
Amen.
The body of the story is a dragon body. The story is not static. It is a story of vibrational unfolding, of sound waves whispered from mouth to ear. You hear the dragon? In this story.
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Shift how we think, feel, and see, and the story adapts, it sheds its skin, it shifts and changes over generation and transforms. Each generation it encounters. Yes, the serpent is
Story.
Songs, says Pierre Del. describing the song traditions of the Sharanawa and the Amazon. Songs are coils of the anaconda. The Anaconda in some Amazonian visions holds the place of world serpent creator and is sometimes translated as dragon. The great anaconda whose very coils are songs. Songs repeating in spiral pattern in choruses of coils. Songs repatterning ritual spaces in rhythmic spirals, repatterning consciousness in rhythmic spirals, rebalancing ecology in rhythmic melodic spirals.
¶ Anaconda: Source of Song and Pattern
Spiraling our hearts down and in, up and out, gathering in, spiraling out, when the song is sung, it is the serpent itself singing, it is vibration itself singing, quote. When the shamans sing, it is Yube, the great serpent, a multiplicity of Yube, a multiplicity of cosmic dragons. through with the shaman. According to some Shipibo Kanibo shamanic songs, the universe itself originated when the anaconda sang the designs it has on its skin.
insufflating their existence as a fundamental graphic musical power. This is the dragon. This is the great pattern of the world serpent. Do you hear this pattern singing? Do you see it hemming, hawing, twisting, breathing? The Anakonda, says Yahwarkani. is the mother of all the Shepibo designs, and is seen as a path covered with designs. A path covered with designs.
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The path stretched out before you. This path of harmonic patterns, of encounters and relationships and practices and openings and closings and gatherings together. Do you see the winding dragon path? of life. For the dragon is pattern and patterns come from the dragon. Among the Shipibo, says Stephen Byer, the designs painted on their bodies, homes, boats, tools, household goods, and clothing sacred patterns derived from a cosmic anaconda, whose skin embodies all possible designs.
O artists, O singers, O stitchers, oh. Do you see the great cosmic dragon serpent whose skin embodies all possible?
designs.
The beautiful book of Shapibo patterns, the Kuna Sikati Kirika, speaks of the patterns that come from the anaconda. names the anaconda as well. The Ronin Kuna is the design of the dragon, or the immense serpent, that according to the sages' ancient stories and visions lives in the The Ronin Kane, the dragon designs, symbolize the spiritual and energetic vibration of rivers, lakes, and streams.
Providing us with the understanding that the waters are also alive, that they have thought, soul, and consciousness, and that they also have an owner, a guardian, what the mestizos of the Peruvian Amazon designate as their mother. Ronin dragons are claimed to have beautiful Kene designs on their bodies, so we know that they are an animal with an almost sacred spiritual force. The designs on their bodies have inspired Shibo artists since ancient times.
Shipibo Professor Eli Sanchez Pacan Muni speaks of the Anakonda, the Ronian And the gifts it brings in the form of song and medicine and knowledge of cune or pattern.
¶ Spiritual Connection to the Ronin
And for access to a communication
He was recognizing the power of of the s snake and the serpents around the world as this very, very powerful being. like that marvelous creature. This creature is so powerful, they feel it so powerfully that he must live, he must exist for real. It's not just a feeling, it's a real being. For the Shipibo it's a very powerful spirit and more than just a spirit. It is
an actual being. And so one must be prepared to to see it and to be with it. Because if you're not prepared, it can take you by surprise. And if there's fear, then you're not going to be able to see it and be with it. And then another dimension to connect to the anaconda zeronin
is through what, you know, in Spanish they call dieta, same chipibo, or where you establish that connection with like the spirit of a tree. Through doing this diet, which is this period of like fasting abstinence, you can get in contact with the runin directly and it ca and it becomes your teacher.
He goes on to speak of varieties of Ronin being, one who lives in the bamboo, one who guards the earth, and one who lives in the deep waters.
And I old to say that this junning is in the mood of the aguas, but also in the sub-a-fond of the aguas, of the mares, of the rivers, in the profundity of the las cochas de los lados
This is the anaconda that lives in the water and in the deep deep water and it's one that they can hear at the very early morning, three or four in the morning when they go fishing. And they can connect to it because their ancestors, their grandfather, have done this diet. So they have the connection to it. And if he's around, it means that he's like bringing fish for them. You know, he's gathering the fish for them.
For the unprepared, the Ronin, like Merlin's dragon, can be too powerful to grasp. Too powerful to see. But when a relationship is slowly built with it over time and through discipline, the anaconda transmits knowledge of the patterns of life. Through the designs on its skin which are seen in vision. through songs, and through knowledge of plants that bestow their own knowledge of the pattern of life.
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Thanks to the Anaconda, there were shown a plant called the Konewasta. that is a plant that teaches you and connects you with what they will call the like the realm of the kno. Yeah, the wasters are very interesting little plants, the little like rhizome.
And.
You've got a bunch of them and they all look the same from the outside. They're all like just weeds, but then you have to know which is which because this little rhizome then will teach you something different. And there's one that teaches you design. That you can drink it, you can put it in your eyes, they would put it in the belly button as well and it connects you to the part.
And that is a gift of the anaconda or that comes through the anaconda?
That that's a gift of the anaconda. It's their life to know the cuno. It's like what they should live for. It's to understand the canoe. The canoe is like a form it's the form of writing in the sense of like It's an expression of life.
the pattern of creation. The gift of the anaconda in this vision is knowledge of the foundational patterns of nature that manifest as song, as design, as medicine. knowledge of the great mystery.
cuando nosotros vemos al roní, nuestra vista no alcanza a ver de qué color es, cómo es el cuerpo, un reflejo absoluto. o es decir hasta ese poder tiene este Loní
when one sees Jonin, an anaconda, we can't really see it with our eyes. It It's hiding itself from us. It's glowing and we can't grasp its actual pattern and its color and like the beauty of it. And so the connection is like a transformation of this pattern that we can't fully grasp. And that we get to see in the visual space, in the visions.
So the kna is the outward facing manifestation of a spiritual pattern that is So vast and mysterious that we can't see it with our eyes.
¶ Dragon: Blueprint of Creation
This understanding of the dragon as pattern, the carrier of pattern, the inspirer of the patterns that inform understandings of the structure of the cosmos and ecology. The diagram that outlines the blueprint of creation, the progenitor to the trigrams of the each. Arises from the Yellow River. as a pattern on the back of a dragon. The river diagram says. was born by a dragon horse that emerged from the Yellow River. Dragon water horse appears to the ancient
Hing food.
himself a divine being with a serpent's body. It was our first ancestor. Who created the hexagrams? More dragon than human, his thoughts were almost indistinguishable from natural process itself. So when he shaped them into the hexagrams, those strange Graphs. expressed all phenomena in the endless process of change. So that river diagram those draft. carry with them what? Knowledge of the energetics of heaven and earth, of mountain and lake.
And thunder.
Of fire and abysmal water. But more so knowledge of their cycles, their wave movement. Субтитры сделал DimaTorzok The knowledge of openings and closings, of breakings and reassemblings, of rush. This is the gift of the dragon. To everything. This is the gift of the dragon. To understand, to know how energy. Knowledge. Knowledge of life. Quote These lines.
Or
Like dragons and the cosmos itself, the hexagon. were in constant transformation. So the invitation of the dragon power is knowledge of the specifics of earthly change. The actual intersecting department. of animate relationships. These dragon patterns, these hexagrams, quote, contained the secrets of civilization. Applying those secrets, Root Breath, the primal dragon, taught people how to hunt and fish, how to keep lives.
Stock and cook with fire. Using the hexagrams, they taught people about bow and arrow, plow and Pottery and markets. And finally, writing. All of these Gifts. The gifts of understanding primal scale patterns and how they map onto family and community, how they inform how to channel water and grow food. And how they invite us to understand and align our lives to the changing seasons.
¶ Dragon Knowledge: Aligning with Cycles
I'm not speaking figuratively here about the power of the recognition of the pattern of the seasons. More than one empire has fallen because it literally didn't understand the seasons. Because its leaders misjudged the Rasputin. Or they sailed too deep into the season of the Protestant. More than one political party has foundered because it didn't know the middle feet of its own dragon body from its front feet. Which aspects of its pattern body should be
And which uh.
More than one intentional community has crumbled because it understood love as an abstract, but not the Dragon discipline of love.
Rules.
are also the pattern of the dragon. Also the river diagram. All this. Is river knowledge, water knowledge, dragon knowledge. in the deep water. and then demonstrates three of them in his own body. Spirals are how animate power moves. through individual bodies. Communities and through society. To know in ourselves, in our social movements, in our rituals, to know when
When is time for gathering and when for dispersal? When is time for provocation and when is time for slow persistence and gentle cultivation?
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Dragons of the water.
In times of urgency.
We might fool ourselves into thinking
is the only power.
And urgency.
Dragon indeed, and comes clothed in language about how in such times it is the only possible valid expression of power. And so it feasts on itself until it becomes its own monster. Ever seeking out greater urgencies, magnifying urgencies, until wellness becomes urgency, spirituality becomes urgency, activism becomes urgency. politics becomes urgency, change itself becomes conflated with urgency. but truly understanding dragon patterns. Dragon.
Means understanding. Yes, the impelling power is one of the powers in play. But we also must understand the full river diagram.
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Slowly penetrating power the power that the evaporating power of rising mists and open waters. only filling from the bottom up power. Remember that one. The binding power. The power that comes.
Eiching says. Honoring the river.
sharily articulated scales of the writhing.
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The changes you see in nature, says Liezo. Follow the course. The four seasons behave in a regulated way. All human matters follow the principles of heaven and earth. What more? This is the gift of the
To understand. Energy.
Energy. power and what it asks of us, and what we must offer back to it.
¶ Dragon Power and Prophetic Visions
How it arouses us in Eros, how it gushes forth as art, as all the serpentine variations of artistic expression over the generations. In ancient China says Marlo Brooks, creativity was known as the dragon's power. And who will handle this power? This serpentine power? Who will funnel it, channel it, receive it, pass it on? Who will interpret the patterns of its endless display?
In many traditions it is the shamanic figure, the priestess, the oracle, the wizard, the druid, the Who has access to the dragon post? who receives of it and harnesses it and channels it and issues it forth again.
So this
Power. Fires the visions of the sea. From the Amazon to the Mediterranean. The Pythia, the Pythonasses. Snake oracles at Delphi arose from the body of a slain serpent, and drank the waters of an ancient dragon spring. The serpent power sent them. Miracular visioning. Serpent nectar that gave him prophetic vision. The dragon serpent winds its way through ancient. Embedded in land, emergent. Tracing a pattern, path,
Through numerous
All the way back to bare breasted Minoa.
Wielding. Hands like light.
Like the power of all In deep oracle caves, Mediterranean seers listened for the voice of the dragon. I went to one such cave last summer and High on the ridges of Mount Parnosos, a nymph cave. where seers would journey to be possessed by serpentine beings. And if you saw what I saw, if you stepped across that threshold into that cave of winding water pools. Into that echoing.
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is slowly dripping. Still now the Breathing. You would not be able to do it.
It was a dragon. I mean literally a dragon. I'll post some pictures of it for you. Have you seen it?
The dragon.
There are those that are willing and Stare into the eyes of the dragon. Sometimes it is through no choice of their own. It is at a great cost, yet they emerge, bearing a power that can both hurt and heal.
¶ Serpents: Healers and Medicine Keepers
Yes, potent and powerful serpents have long been associated with healing. And if you think that sounds strange, look no further than the side of an ambulance. And there it is in plain sight. The serpent of healing the serpent of Asclepios Asclepios, Greek god of healing who learned the art of medicine from who? From a serpent that bore a medicinal herb in its mouth. So the Asclepian symbol, the symbol for healing, is one serpent coiled around a central rod.
Sometimes you see another symbol associated with medicine too. The Caducius of Hermes This is because in the nineteenth century the two were mistakenly conflated, and the Caducius came to be used by many American medical institutions. While the World Health Organization and most European institutions retained the staff of Asclepius. And this is interesting simply because while Asclepius rules healing, Hermes rules different things, like commerce.
So do these medical serpent signs indicate that we are more dedicated to gods of healing or more dedicated to gods of commerce? You decide. But back to Asclepius and his serpent. Asclepius is depicted bearing a serpent's staff, entwined with serpents, and sometimes in the form of a serpent himself.
Yeah.
Ovid describes how Asclepius healed Rome from plague while in the form of a great serpent. And this can seem paradoxical to modern minds, for after all, snakes are often venomous. Snakes hurt, snakes kill. Snakes, even if we don't see them as bad or evil, are often things we want to keep a little bit of distance from, right? Why would snakes be associated with healing?
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Perhaps it's something about shedding skin and emerging. Something about how understanding patterns and cycles and the true pace and rhythm of the spirals of change. Perhaps it's also about that paradoxical place.
Yeah.
where poison and nectar may for what we call medicine has never been comfortable. It's never been simply sweet. It's always involved. A little bit of the thing that ails us. You know that place. The place where venom and honey meet. that serpentine place of ecstasy. That place that can only be described as. Medicine.
Amen.
In the Shipibo Anaconda traditions, the pattern of the anaconda is not simply art. It is medicine. It is a medicine power. And healing happens through understanding pattern and through deliberate meticulous.
Patterning.
So perhaps what we call healing has a lot to do with
A true under
of regenerative power. and cycles.
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In the Amazonian Katukina healing traditions, the knowledge of plants and plant medicines are also deeply tied to the serpent. says Ejjalin Genema. The shamanic plants belong to the snakes. They were the ones who instituted them in the world as Rao, that is medicine and In this vision, the medicine patterns come from the serpent who is the holder of all patterns. And the person who has knowledge of plant medicine is called a serpent themselves.
A shaman snake who holds the knowledge and who often became a shaman through a direct serpent encounter. In some Amazonian traditions, says Elsie Legru, to become either a shaman or a prayer healer, a man must encounter a snake that reveals the secrets of healing. Whether while hunting, on the way home, or gathering shellfish, the snake appears in a man's path, causing strange sensations in his body, changes in smell. The body comes to smell like a snake. Blurred vision, dizziness, and chills.
These encounters with snakes are interpreted as an electricity. An indication that the person has been chosen to hold the knowledge of the world. The size of the snake seems to determine the amount of secrets it can reveal and whether the man can act as a shaman or a prayer healer.
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So the anaconda in the is seen as the first shaman. The pattern power of creation that brings knowledge of song pattern, ritual pattern, story pattern, Vision pattern, healing pattern. Pattern of life for the first time.
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¶ The Serious Serpent Path
Snakes, says Ruth.
Aquatic and the other.
According to mythology, the
of immortality.
and the fact that they can shed their skin proves this immortality. Their skin in fact is highly valued and strongly linked to shamanic. Powers, knowledge and
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Power is distributed through the snakeskin, through knowledge of the patterns of the anaconda. The power comes through the skin, sometimes through the anaconda blood. Sometimes the power even comes through snake spit. Yes, I've heard of Amazonian sages who do a dieta of symbolic or actual serpent saliva in order to receive those medicine patterns, those strong songs. When you were talking about the Ronin Dieta, is that
A dieta through particular plants that are sacred to the Ronin? Or you had mentioned like the saliva or is it through Ronin songs or what would that dieta be?
Drinking its saliva would be the most direct uh manner to connect to it.
Hard to get though. But I'll just say, you know, before you go jumping on that snake saliva dieta as the next wellness optimization kick, qualified professionals only, please. Because, in many traditions, to go down the dragon path, the serpent path, is serious business. The path of access to nature's innermost coils, to nature's deepest patterns of power. is not for everyone. Says Elsie LeGru, quote, Because the powerful singer has become you bay.
become the ancestor and spirit owner of the Anacondas. His sweat is dangerous for his own kin, especially for his wife and children who could become ill if he touched them without taking a bath after the ritual. So the serpent is power and it's not a power for everyone to mess with. Just as not everyone wants to be a snake handler when they grow up. Though perhaps these days in certain circles, everyone fancies themselves a snake handler.
Just as everyone fancies themselves a shaman. But it has always taken deep protocol to handle that power. It has taken protocol and it has never been an easy road. And the power exacts its toll on those who stare into the dragon's eye. And this is how we can bring this coil of the story to a close before unfurling the next.
¶ Meeting the Dragon's Primal Power
With the simple understanding that we began with That the dragon, the serpent, is power. The serpent is the power of a dynamic, undulating, moving, spiraling cosmos. It is present in all things that move in cycles. Cycles of birth, growth, renewal, cycles of violence, of trauma, of pain. And therefore it is beautiful and terrifying, nourishing and destructive all at once. It is the power of life. This of death, the arrows of all that undulates.
It is skin shedding, it is deep biting, it is winding, winding life. The iterations of Dragon and Serpent story carry all the nuance and texture of how human beings have interacted with the world. with the power of the cosmos, with the pattern of creation. Dragon as healer, dragon as killer, dragon as possessor, dragon as liberator. the dragon as hoarder or as freer, the charged and difficult relationship many traditions have had with the dragon or the serpent.
can be attributed to the fact that serpent myths are ultimately about the force of life, the primal power, the charged kundalini of the cosmos and how it is understood. How it is met, how it is handled, how it is embraced, revered, or how it is shunned, subdued, or sent away. For once we understand the dragon as real, dynamic, present, tangible, How do we relate? How do we interact with this beautiful, terrifying, nourishing, destructive?
Power.
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And lose much of the knowledge of how to do it. create the actual power patterns of the world. And in consigning them to sleep have we already set forth a future of inevitable upheaval, as those sleeping dragons one day wake. How are we in the face of life's great spirals? How are we before the dragon, terrifying and beautiful? Do we separate out its terrifying aspects from its beautiful ones?
and vilify the ones that are terrifying? Do we see the waves of the world, the cycles of joy and pain in the world as evil? Do we imagine or strive for a state of being that takes us beyond its spirals and coils? Do we long for something true and eternal, and then in our urgent grasping for that far off place, Do we set off new spirals? New dragons, new cycles, new worlds. Of fate.
¶ Modern Ways to Meet Dragons
How do we meet the dragon? Once we recognize it as power, do we seek to hold it, capture it, harness it, move it, send it flying up our spines until it erupts out our skulls into 10,000 petals of light? And wow, that felt awesome. I want more of that. I want to share that with everyone. I could probably catch that fleeting serpent in a basket and charge passers by for a glimpse of it.
So do we extract it, commodify it, dress it up in scaly sequin dresses, and pimp it for our gain? What do we do with the serpent power? The power that spirals across time now surging. Now urgently arising, now lying. Can you see the The great water keeper and the great water liberator in humanity's ongoing revolutions of freedom and restraint? Yes, there is a dragon there too. For the serpent is not just power in some abstract.
It is patterned power. Power that is deeply patterned. It is the patterns of history, the patterns of family. These are dragons of great intricacy. What if all your patterns are dragons? And all your patterns together form one great dragon, so that it's not so easy to separate out the patterns that help versus those that hinder.
The patterns that liberate versus those that bind. There are patterns, there are dragons that possess, the Chinese traditions say, and there are also dragons that free us from possession. Both in certain understandings are dragons. And so it's not as easy as saying all dragons are to be slain. But then it's also not as easy as saying all dragons.
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For right now in this is a snarling, monstrous dragon of fascism rising. I've heard its dank breath on the ground. Whispering for the
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Scorn that would like nothing more. And spit fire and leg. There are fire dragons, and there are dragons that shine with irresistible light, and that shimmer like schools of flying fish leaping at noontide. Yes. Flashing dragon of all you've exposed your eyes to in the past month. Of what are its scales? bomb craters and vacation destinations, protests and memorials. Unending litanies of takes upon takes upon takes, so many dragons, so many powers. How do we make it? How do we interact?
with the father.
Of power. Wheels of the Gregor.
¶ Nietzsche's View of the Dragon World
We'll look into this deeply in the next episode. All the many ways that human beings have met the dragon serpent power. Some have shunned it, subdued it, sought to slay it, others revered it, adored it, sought to understand it. So many ways that human beings have met the world. For the world, beloved, the world is. The dragon. And do you know what I take the world to be? asks Nietzsche. Shall I hold my mirror up to it? This world is a monster.
Without beginning.
And waves of energy. remaining there an ocean of tempestuous and torrential. Forever change. With enormous periods of recurrence. The most fiery, fierce, and self-contradictory.
Rigid and I think it's a good thing.
This play of contradictions back to the joy of concord. Still affirming itself in the identity of its courses and ages, forever blessing itself as that which eternally recurs. A becoming which knows no satiety, disgust, or weariness. This my Dionysian world of eternal self-creation. Of eternal self-destruction. This mysterious world, he says. This mysterious world. O monstrous, mysterious world O great dragon, I feel you in my heart. I think I feel the dragon in my heart.
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¶ Acknowledgements and Resources
Many, many thanks go out to Newingar Elder Noel Nanop for agreeing to do this interview about the rainbow serpent. Special thanks to Professor Eli Sanchez Pakan Mani for making the time to discuss the anaconda in the Shipibo tradition. Really a joy to have Eli on this episode. Eli teaches a course on the Shipibo Kunibo Cosmovision and language, and you can find out more about this course at joconjoy dot thinkfic dot com that's J A K O N J O I dot think IFIC dot com.
Special thanks to Clemence Laubert for translating. Clemence is a student of the Shibibo traditions and recipient of one of the Emerald Podcast grants. for her work to preserve the Shipbo cosmovision and culture. Many thanks to Marina Alves for wonderful research on the Amazonian serpent lore and to the folks at Chi Mabon, a retreat center in Wales, founded by a wonderful lore keeper named Eric Mattern.
You can find Kimabon and their thatched roof hobbit houses online at chimabon dot co dot uk. That's caem.co dot uk. Many thanks to Victor Sokchin for the beautiful hand pen and singing in this episode, who really brought the episode together. You can find Victor's music on streaming platforms. It's Victor V-I-C-T-O-R last name Sokin S A K S H I N And he's on Instagram as well at Victor Soxhin. Travis Puntarelli, who you can find on Instagram as Balladier B A L L A D I R.
Janae Rogers contributed beautiful music for this episode, and her Instagram is Janae Elita J E U N A E underscore ELITA. Special thanks to Maria Stark, who did some wonderful singing on this episode. You can find Mario's music everywhere you stream music and it's M A R Y A Stark S T A R K Charlotte Maylin Collins provided some beautiful viola and violin for this episode, and you can find Charlotte's music at Althea Music. It's A L T H A E A music.
And as always, this episode contains reference to many books, films, songs, articles, and more. These include the Shu Wen Jiitze by Shuo Shin, Kapoe Moo Akua, Hawaiian Reptilian Water Deities by Maria Lohalani Brown, an absolutely spectacular book about Hawaiian Moo tradition. The Empty Space by Peter Brook. Game of Thrones, the series on HBO, The Dragon Riders of Pern series by Anne McCaffrey. The game Dungeons and Dragons by T Sr. The Fourth Wing series by Rebecca Yarros.
The book Water Deities by Veronica Strang, highly recommended, translations of Lie Tzu by Eva Wong, The Hobbit by J. R. Tolkien, The Wave and the Mind by Ursula K. Le Guin. Excalibur, the nineteen seventy nine film by John Bormann, the book The Cosmic Serpent by Jeremy Narbi, Rituel Chamanique Champ de Pouvoir Chile Charana by Pierre Delage. Amazonian Waterway Amazonian Water Worlds by Giuliana Borea and Rembrandt.
The Kuna Sikati Kirika by Alianza Arcana The Book of Documents by Kong Angu The Y Ching translated by David Hinton. Another translation of the Y Ching by Stephen Carcher. The writings and artworks of Marlowe Brook. on Instagram as Marlowe Brooks. M-A-R-L-O-W, Brooks. Com os olhos da serpente, homem, animais e espíritos nas concepções catuquinas sobre a natureza, by Edgeline de Lima, antigamente não é mais hoje. Mobilidade e transformação entre os noqueco by Ruth Daniel Lopez.
Anaconda Becoming An Amerindian Relational Aesthetics by Elsie LeGru The song Natural Born Killers by Ice Cube and Doctor Dre The Book of Voodoo by Leah Gordon The Book Snake Talk by Tyson Yankaporta. Singing to the Plants by Stephen Byer, the film Enter the Dragon starring Bruce Lee. Feathered Serpent Dark Heart of Sky by David Bowles, Tales from the Night Rainbow by Kylie Ohe Kame Ekua and Pile J Lee The Marriage of Cadmos and Harmony by Roberto Colasso.
And of course the song Boa Constrictor, performed by Peter, Paul and Mary.
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