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The EMDR Podcast

Thomas Zimmermanemdrpodcast.com
Helping therapists work more effectively with complex trauma. Thomas Zimmerman, Ms.Ed., LPCC, offers EMDR Foundational Training in Cleveland, Ohio, and online throughout the United States. We can also train your whole agency. See: http://EMDRCleveland.com
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Helping the Predictive Brain Update Bad Memories

Helping the Predictive Brain Update Bad Memories Turns out, the story that we’ve been telling ourselves about the neurobiology of trauma doesn’t make sense anymore based on what we have learned the past twenty-five years about brain evolution, function, structure, memory reconsolidation, neuroplasticity, and the predictive brain. How we understand perception of our external world and internal worlds and has changed profoundly. There is growing consensus around the core idea that our nervous syst...

Feb 19, 20256 min

When Complex Clients Insist on Doing EMDR Processing Immediately

When Complex Clients Insist on Doing EMDR Processing Immediately Clients often urgently need to heal. Their lives are probably unmanageable and they may have significant relational, occupational, or functional stressors that need urgent attention. We can align with that urgency. However, urgency is not a substitute for preparation. If you have a complexly traumatized nervous system, your recovery is not going to be brief and the needed preparation probably isn’t going to be short. Your relief of...

Jan 03, 20252 min

Why EMDR Therapy Does Not Seem to Quickly Shift Cognitions Broadly for Some Clients

EMDR Therapy shifts how you think about yourself and the world related to the memory we are working on. Why does it do this? Because that’s a lot of what healing is. Healing shifts how you think about yourself and the world, as well as lots of other things. Wounding is experiential learning and vast regions of our nervous system are organized around meaning-making in the foreground, midground, and background. Healing is also experiential learning. Broadly, in EMDR therapy and other transformatio...

Dec 23, 20247 min

When a Low SUDs May Not Be Ecological

When a SUDS of One, Two, or Three May Not be Ecological You are technically correct, quoting Dr. Shapiro in EMDR Therapy when you say that a SUDs of one can be ecological if it “sounds right.” Shapiro's example of an Uncle who died. Shapiro worked with really healthy people and what’s in a one with her clients may be different than what’s in a one or a two with clients with really complex trauma. With really healthy people, you can go to installation if the SUDs is a one if it “sounds right” and...

Dec 10, 20234 min

The Performance Anxiety of New EMDR Therapists

• The Impulse to Want to Avoid Causing Harm • Working with Trauma is Like Working with Lava • Confessions about Difficult Sessions • Most Basic Training Programs Can’t Train You to Work Effectively with Severely Complex Trauma in EMDR, You Will Need to Learn the Nuances of this On Your Own, But There is an Enormous Amount of Help Out There • Normalizing Mistakes and Missteps • The Real Risks of Not Doing Trauma Work with Clients • We are the Only Professionals on the Planet that Can Do This… Who...

Sep 03, 202315 min

Where Clients with Complex Trauma Tend to Get Stuck in EMDR Reprocessing and How to Use Interweaves

There is so much to say here. Broad overview. Each point could easily be a chapter. Very little of this is mine, the metaphors are mine, but this is a collection ways of seeing that are helpful for me in understanding where clients get stuck in reprocessing, why, and what might be helpful in getting them unstuck, and what we subsequently do with that information. When clients encounter difficulties in any phase of EMDR Therapy, that isn’t failure and it isn’t evidence that you have done somethin...

Jun 20, 202357 min

Understanding Where the Magic Is (And Isn’t) in EMDR Therapy

Many new EMDR therapists misunderstand where the magic is in EMDR Therapy. Trainings and training practicum experiences often send the impression that simply following the script is likely to result in memory resolution with the vast majority of clients. EMDR can be seen as a kind of magic wand that allows us to go up to almost any person and “dink” their memory. Some trainees may be left with the impression that most of the magic in EMDR Therapy is in the bilateral alone. While this is a key pa...

Jun 18, 20236 min

EMDR and Grief: Overview

A shocking amount of talk online about EMDR and grief goes against everything we know about both. This episode highlights effective ways to use EMDR with grief-saturated targets.

Jun 10, 20239 min

Understanding the AIP Model: The Boat Metaphor and the Mount Everest Metaphor

In EMDR Therapy, the pathway for healing is that stuck information has to connect to right now adaptive information. The process that facilitates that linkage is the Eight Phase Protocol. You can connect almost any old and stuck maladaptive information into right now existing adaptive information. But, a lot of what we know about complex trauma is that clients lack adaptive information. They were too busy surviving to figure out who they are, what they value, how the deserve to be treated… and t...

May 21, 202317 min

When to Encourage Memories to Connect: Complex Trauma and the Problem of Too Much Memory Content

Understanding the Difference Between A Complexly Traumatized Nervous System and a Non-Pervasively Traumatized Nervous System Via the AIP Lens In the AIP model, the difficult stuff has to connect with right-now existing adaptive information. One of the key things that we appreciate about complex trauma is the large size of the trauma and the typically small amount of adaptive information that the difficult stuff must connect with and metabolize into. Again, back to the boat metaphor. If client’s ...

May 21, 202322 min

Trouble Finding an Individual Memory when Trauma was Daily: A Topographic Approach

Using age, space, and topography to find an individual representative memory related to a presenting issue, theme, current trigger or emotional state. • Identify a negative cognition. • What age do we need to work related to that theme and negative cognition? • Home, school, or community? • Where (what room) in that space do we need to work? • Where in that room or space (what chair at the table) do we need to work? • Put yourself in that space at that age and related to that theme and negative ...

May 21, 202314 min

"Mindfulness Doesn't Work for Me:" Teaching it Differently

Many clients with complex trauma will come to us convinced that they have already failed mindfulness and that they are about to fail EMDR. Some of the approaches that I have seen to teaching mindfulness to clients assume a non-pervasively traumatized nervous system. Which is simply something we should not assume. Many approaches throw the client into the deep end of the present, the body, or noticing without much preparation or guidance almost as though they are running every client through the ...

May 21, 202337 min

A "Dip Your Toe In" Approach to Sensory Grounding

Trauma has the potential to promote disconnection from the present, from experience, from the body, from the self, and from more full engagement with the broader world. These responses were in the service of survival. They may have been essential. Sensory grounding is a go-to resource in trauma work because our senses bring us home. They can help bring us into the “safety” of the present when we want to be or when we need to be more present. Sensory grounding is a needed resource in trauma work,...

May 21, 202315 min

A "Dip Your Toe In" Approach to Calm Scene with Clients with Complex Trauma

In this podcast, I propose a very simple modification to your calm scene mindfulness exercise when clients have struggled with exercises like this: outsource the calm scene to a YouTube video. We may be able to use the video as a bridge resource. Bridge resources are accommodations to standard resources that take into account the difficulties that clients may have with visualization, focus, self-judgment related to the visualization, and allow us to do a version of the resource that lets clients...

May 21, 202316 min

A "Dip Your Toe In" Approach to Attachment Figure Resources

Assessing for attachment wounding: When you were young, who was really and consistently there for you? At the core of EMDR therapy and the AIP model, the difficult stuff has to connect to and metabolize into right now adaptive information. Shapiro is clear that enough of the needed adaptive information must be present for the difficult stuff to metabolize into it. You cannot connect a lie to a lie. Attachment figure resources can help rehearse and model what it might look like for more adult par...

May 21, 202320 min

Mastering the Videotape Approach in EMDR

Detailed scripts for this approach are at: https://emdrthirdweekend.com/posts/videotape-approach-script-with-complex-trauma-phases-three-and-four

May 21, 202327 min
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