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The Education Gadfly Show

Thomas B. Fordham Institutefordhaminstitute.org

For more than 15 years, the Fordham Institute has been hosting a weekly podcast, The Education Gadfly Show. Each week, you’ll get lively, entertaining discussions of recent education news, usually featuring Fordham’s Mike Petrilli and David Griffith. Then the wise Amber Northern will recap a recent research study. For questions or comments on the podcast, contact its producer, Stephanie Distler, at [email protected].

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Episodes

#945: What happened when Tennessee colleges dropped remedial courses, with Jill Barshay

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Jill Barshay, author of The Hechinger Report ’s “Proof Points” column, joins Mike and David to discuss her recent article on the surprising effects of colleges eliminating remedial courses. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study examining the impact of Washington’s academic acceleration policies on high school students. Recommended content: Jill Barshay, “ A decade of data in one state shows an unexpected result when colleges drop remedia...

Nov 06, 202433 minEp. 945

#944: More equitable advanced education programs, with Brandon Wright

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Brandon Wright, Fordham’s Editorial Director and author of the latest Think Again brief, “Are Education Programs for High Achievers Inherently Inequitable?” joins Mike and David to explain why the answer to that question is “no” and why such programs are important. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study examining how individual teachers’ effectiveness shifted when instruction went from in-person to on-line during the 2020-21 school year. ...

Oct 30, 202435 minEp. 944

#943: How 20,000 parents view educational opportunity in America, with Marc Porter Magee

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Marc Porter Magee, CEO and Founder of 50CAN, joins Mike and David to discuss “The State of Educational Opportunity in America," 50CAN’s new report based on a survey of over 20,000 parents from all 50 states and D.C. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam shares a study examining how teacher strikes affect compensation, working conditions, and student achievement. Recommended content: The State of Educational Opportunity in America , 50CAN (2024). “Studen...

Oct 23, 202433 minEp. 943

#942: The case for supply-side policies in career and technical education, with David Deming

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, David Deming, a professor of Political Economy at the Harvard Kennedy School, joins Mike and David to discuss his article in The Atlantic arguing that it’s not enough for governments and the private sector to eliminate college-degree requirement for good-paying jobs. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study investigating the “fade-out effect” in early childhood education programs. Recommended content: “We need supply-side education policy” ...

Oct 16, 202434 minEp. 942

#941: Inside Denver’s education transformation, with Parker Baxter

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Parker Baxter, Director of the Center for Education Policy Analysis at the University of Colorado, joins Mike and David to discuss his new report on the impact of Denver’s education reforms. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a RAND survey on teachers’ experiences with school violence and lockdown drills. Recommended content: Parker Baxter, Anna Nicotera, David Stuit, Margot Plotz, Todd Ely, and Paul Tesk, Systemwide and Intervention-Specific...

Oct 09, 202436 minEp. 941

#940: Navigating accountability for education savings accounts, with Devon Nir

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Devon Nir, a research assistant at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss the complexities of ensuring accountability for education savings accounts. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a study exploring the financial returns of various non-degree credentials and degree programs. Recommended content: “The ‘à la carte education’ accountability conundrum”— Michael J. Petrilli and Devon Nir “Finding the sweet spot on a...

Oct 02, 202431 minEp. 940

#939: What to do about underenrolled and underachieving schools? with Sofoklis Goulas

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Sofoklis Goulas, a fellow at the Brookings Institution and the Hamilton Project, joins Mike and David to discuss the Fordham report he just authored, Underachieving and Underenrolled: Chronically Low-Performing Schools in the Post-Pandemic Era . Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study on the effects of Zearn Math on third through fifth grade math performance in Louisiana. Recommended content: Sofoklis Goulas, Underachieving and Underenroll...

Sep 25, 202435 minEp. 939

#938: The disappointing results of high-dosage tutoring, with Michael Goldstein

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Michael Goldstein, co-founder of the Math Learning Lab in Boston, joins Mike and David to discuss the track record of high-dosage tutoring in mitigating pandemic learning loss. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study on the long-term effects of the METCO program, which aims to increase diversity and reduce racial isolation by busing students from Boston to surrounding suburbs. Recommended content: Mike Goldstein and Bowen Paulle, The narro...

Sep 18, 202431 minEp. 938

#937: Is universal free lunch a good idea? with Paul Bruno

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Paul Bruno, an assistant professor of education at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, joins Mike and David to discuss the pros and cons of universal free lunch. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber explores how mandating Advanced Placement course offerings and waiving AP exam fees impact student participation. Recommended content: “Should All School Meals Be Free?”— Tim Daly “Make School Lunches Great Again”— Max Eden Ian Callen and Christia...

Sep 11, 202433 minEp. 937

#936: How socioeconomic factors explain achievement gaps, with Eric Hengyu Hu and Paul L. Morgan

#936: How socioeconomic factors explain achievement gaps, with Eric Hengyu Hu and Paul L. Morgan On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, SUNY Albany’s Eric Hengyu Hu and Paul L. Morgan, authors of Fordham’s recently released report Explaining Achievement Gaps: The Role of Socioeconomic Factors , joins Mike and David to discuss their findings. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber reports on a study of differences in grading practices between international and domestic instructors at U.S. pub...

Sep 04, 202425 minEp. 936

#935: How the charter sector can thrive under Trump or Harris, with Starlee Coleman

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Starlee Coleman, newly named President and CEO of the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools, joins Mike and David to discuss how the charter sector can find success with a Trump or Harris presidency. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber reports on a study of how nearby charter schools impact Catholic school enrollment. Recommended content: “How Kamala Harris can move to the center on education”— Michael J. Petrilli “What could a Vice President ...

Aug 28, 202427 minEp. 935

#934: Reducing chronic absenteeism: Building trust versus getting tough, with Kelly James

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Kelly James, a partner at Education First Consulting and Fordham’s 2024 Wonkathon winner, joins Mike and David to discuss how policymakers and practitioners can reduce chronic absenteeism in schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam reports on a study about the fiscal effects of states paying districts for the costs of students they no longer serve. Recommended content: “‘Everything, everywhere, all at once’ solutions to chronic absenteeism”— Kelly...

Aug 21, 202427 min

#933 The nuts and bolts of banning cellphones in schools, with Othiniel Mahone

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Othiniel Mahone, the principal at GEO Academies 21st Century School in Gary, Indiana, joins Mike and David to discuss effective strategies for implementing and enforcing an “away for the day” school cellphone policy. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam reports on a study about the impact of middle school principals on various long-term outcomes for students. Recommended content: “How to implement a cellphone ban in schools” — Amber M. Northern, Ph.D. ...

Aug 14, 202427 minEp. 933

#932: Yes, AP exams are getting easier, with Checker Finn

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Fordham’s Checker Finn joins Mike and David to discuss the changes in how the College Board is scoring Advanced Placement exams. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber reports on a meta-analysis examining the effectiveness of robot-assisted foreign language learning. Recommended content: “Are AP exams getting easier?” — Chester E. Finn, Jr. “The Great Recalibration of AP exams” — John Moscatiello “The College Board’s new method for raising AP scores” — ...

Aug 07, 202422 min

#931: No, school closures aren’t racist, with Vlad Kogan

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Vlad Kogan, a professor at Ohio State University, joins Mike and David to discuss what role race, achievement, and enrollment play in a district’s decision to close a school. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new report that investigates the staffing difficulties and potential academic effects of class size reduction policies in New York City. Recommended content: “Flawed work to close city schools will hurt Columbus for years to come. I...

Jul 31, 202422 minEp. 931

#930: What Vance and Harris mean for federal education policy, with Dale Chu

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Dale Chu, a senior visiting fellow at the Fordham Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss how Biden passing the torch and Trump picking J.D. Vance could affect U.S. school policy. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study that compares the academic impacts of urban versus suburban charter schools. Recommended content: “Vance vs. Pence: How Trump’s VP picks compare on education” — Dale Chu, Fordham Institute “The Democratic replaceme...

Jul 24, 202426 minEp. 930

#929: Equity and school closures, with Francis Pearman

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Francis Pearman, an assistant professor of education at Stanford University, joins Mike and David to debate the impact that budgets, enrollment, and race play in closing schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating the efficacy of learning-loss-recovery interventions across eight districts. Recommended content: "Enrollment down. Achievement lackluster. Should this school close?” — Francis Pearman, Education Week “Sc...

Jul 17, 202431 minEp. 929

#928: Why the pandemic toddlers are struggling in school, with Kristen Huff

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Kristen Huff, the vice president of assessment and research at Curriculum Associates, joins Mike and David to discuss the academic performance our youngest students in the wake of the pandemic. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating the demographic effects of test-optional policies at selective universities. Recommended content: “The Youngest Pandemic Children Are Now in School, and Struggling” — New York Times Ethan Y...

Jul 10, 202428 minEp. 928

#927: How to shrink schools and school districts as enrollment declines, with Marguerite Roza

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Marguerite Roza, the director of the Edunomics Lab and a research professor at Georgetown University, joins Mike and David to discuss how schools and school systems can downsize in response to declining enrollment. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam examines a new study investigating the academic impacts of ESSER funding, the largest one-time federal investment in public schools in history. Recommended content: “The math of school closures: How distr...

Jul 03, 202430 minEp. 927

#926: What “Young Sheldon” teaches about parenting, with Alina Adams

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Alina Adams, a New York Times best-selling author, joins Mike and David to discuss the parenting lessons she learned from watching “Young Sheldon.” Then, on the Research Minute, Adam examines a new study investigating the rigor (or lack thereof) of online credit recovery courses. Recommended content: “I watched the parenting on ‘Young Sheldon’… and did the exact opposite” — Alina Adams, Education Next “Fun fact: ‘Young Sheldon’ provides insight into ...

Jun 26, 202429 minEp. 926

#925: We need more curriculum oversight, with Robert Pondiscio

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Robert Pondiscio, a senior fellow at Fordham and the American Enterprise Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss the lack of curriculum oversight in American schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study of whether aspiring teachers’ professional references predict their later performance. Recommended content: “How public schools became ideological boot camps” — Robert Pondiscio, The Free Press “Taking curriculum implementation...

Jun 19, 202425 minEp. 925

#924: How presidents polarize education debates, with David Houston

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, David Houston, an assistant professor at George Mason University, joins Mike and David to discuss how presidents polarize voters when they weigh in on education debates. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating whether performance incentives improve teacher skills and so the academic growth of their students. Recommended content: “Polling data: Presidents split the public on schools” — Kevin Mahnken, The 74 “Let’s talk a...

Jun 12, 202425 minEp. 924

#923: Debating school funding inequities, with Alex Spurrier

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Alex Spurrier, an associate partner at Bellwether, joins Mike and David to discuss whether schools in low-income neighborhoods receive less funding than their affluent counterparts. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating state finance reforms that secure lasting budget increases for districts. Recommended content: Alex Spurrier, Bonnie O’Keefe, and Biko McMillan, “ Leveling the landscape: An analysis of K–12 funding in...

Jun 05, 202429 minEp. 923

#922: Redesigning high school diplomas, with Dr. Katie Jenner

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Dr. Katie Jenner, the Indiana secretary of education, joins Mike and David to discuss a proposed, alternative high school diploma in the Hoosier state. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating early indicators for college readiness. Recommended content: “Indiana’s new diplomas emphasize flexibility for older students, but some requirements are controversial” — Chalkbeat “We all agree that college isn’t for everyone. We s...

May 29, 202428 minEp. 922

#921: Rethinking reading comprehension instruction, with Daniel Buck

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Daniel Buck, Fordham’s policy and editorial associate, joins Mike and David to discuss whether and how elementary schools should teach reading comprehension. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating the short- and long-term impacts of school closures in the 1990s. Recommended content: Daniel Buck, “ Think again: Should elementary schools teach reading comprehension? ” Fordham Institute (May 2024). "At long last, E.D. Hir...

May 22, 202427 minEp. 921

#920: Integration and charter schools, with Brian Kisida

In a special National Charter Schools Week Education Gadfly Show podcast, Brian Kisida, an assistant professor at the University of Missouri, joins Mike and David to discuss whether charters have impeded racial integration in American schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating if intensive English learner programs benefit students. Recommended content: “70 years after Brown v. Board of Education, new research shows rise in school segregation” — Carrie Spector...

May 15, 202426 minEp. 920

#919: Why we should teach the history of human progress, with Marian Tupy

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Marian Tupy, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and the founder and editor of HumanProgress.org, joins Mike and David to discuss the incredible progress that humanity has made over millennia, and what schools might do to better teach kids that our past, present, and future is not all doom and gloom. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating if education savings accounts increase tuition costs at private schools. Recomm...

May 08, 202430 minEp. 919

#918: The broken pipeline of advanced education, with Adam Tyner

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Adam Tyner, Fordham’s national research director, joins Mike and David to discuss his latest study on advanced education policies across the country. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines new research on how the decentralization of teacher accountability under the federal Every Student Succeeds Act affected student achievement. Recommended content: The broken pipeline: Advanced education policies at the local level — Adam Tyner, Fordham Instit...

May 01, 202429 minEp. 918

#917: The end of Chevron Deference, with Joshua Dunn

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Joshua Dunn, Executive Director of the Institute of American Civics at the University of Tennessee, joins Mike and David to discuss how public schools will be affected by the end of the Chevron deference—the judicial doctrine in which courts defer to federal agencies’ reasonable interpretations of ambiguous statutes. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new paper criticizing the famous STAR class size study. Recommended content: “Fishing fo...

Apr 24, 202427 minEp. 917

#916: The case for curriculum reform, with Robert Pondiscio

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Robert Pondiscio, a senior fellow at Fordham and the American Enterprise Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss the state of curricular reform. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines new data from the Institute of Education Sciences’ Condition of Education Report. Recommended content: “40 years after ‘A nation at risk,’ could curriculum reform finally move the needle on academic improvement?” — Robert Pondiscio, The 74 “The ‘case for curric...

Apr 17, 202427 minEp. 916
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