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4. Used Hotel Soaps

Jan 12, 202612 minEp. 4
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Summary

Discover the surprising economics behind those small hotel soaps, beginning with a traveler's curiosity about their fate. The episode details how Sean Sipler's initiative, Clean the World, transforms millions of discarded bars into life-saving hygiene products for vulnerable populations. It also reveals the innovative business model that makes this global humanitarian effort financially sustainable, highlighting its significant environmental and social impact while touching on the larger issue of consumer waste.

Episode description

Hotel guests adore those cute little soaps, but is it just a one-night stand? Zachary Crockett discovers what happens when we love ’em and leave ’em. This episode was originally published on February 12th, 2023.


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The Ubiquitous Unused Hotel Soap

Back in 2009, Sean Sipler asked himself a question that has occurred to pretty much everyone who's ever stayed at a hotel. At the time, Sipler was a bit of a road dog. As a tech executive in sales, he spent around half his week traveling across the US, Minneapolis, LA, St. Louis, all over. This is a guy who racked up a lot of nights in hotel rooms. And on one of those trips, something caught his attention. That little bar of soap in the hotel bathroom. There's a natural...

I don't want to waste things in me. And as I would use a bar of soap one time, there was always a little nag inside of me that I'm leaving it here. So in that hotel room in Minneapolis, after a couple cocktails, that nag led to asking the question. I called the front desk and asked, what happens to the soap when I'm done with it?

From the Freakonomics Radio Network, this is the economics of everyday things. I'm Zachary Crockett. Today, used hotel soaps. You may not think twice about those little bars they leave out for you on the sink. But a lot of thought went into putting them there. Hotel amenities have evolved over the last 100 years. Chekatan Dev is a professor at Cornell University's Nolan School of Hotel Administration.

And he says that the earliest hotels actually didn't give you any soap. In fact, they didn't even give you your own bathroom. It's an early 20th century innovation that hotel rooms came with a bath attached. In fact, Ellsworth Statler, the founder of the Statler Hotel chain, often used to use the line a room and a bath for a dollar and a half. So soap became the very first amenity in the bathroom. And over time?

soap became a default offering in many hotels. The one thing I've learned about the hotel business in the 43 years I've been a student of the business is there's a lot of copycat, you know, they're doing it, we better do it. These days, hotels stock their bathrooms with all kinds of toiletries. Mini bottles of lotion, shampoos, conditioners. Recently, some big chains have replaced these single-use products with refillable dispensers.

But at most hotels, you'll still find a bar of soap next to the sink. And there's a reason for that. They are extremely popular. In 2019, Dev co-authored a study of in-room amenities. and found that 86% of hotel guests use those packaged soaps. They're more utilized than any other hotel room amenity, even the TV.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy in the sense that it's used because it's there and it's there because it's used and gets expected. It's also probably the one item that's most inconvenient to carry with you after use. So the solution was, let's get the little bitty bars of soap that we could then leave in the hotel bathroom for disposal. So what does that look like big picture? Let's assume there are between five and six million hotel rooms around the world, and they get used at...

even 60% occupancy year-round, you do the math, that's hundreds of millions of room nights. It's a lot of soap. That's a lot of soap. That takes us back to Sean Sipler.

Clean the World's Genesis Story

the guy who made that call to his hotel front desk back in 2009. He asked what they did with all that soap. And they said, we throw it away. Seipler could not accept that millions of bars of soap ended up in landfills every day. So he took a bunch of these half-used bars with him, and he set up a mad scientist's lab in his garage with the help of some family and friends. We're all sitting on upside down pickle buckets with potato peelers. We're scraping the outside of those bars of soap.

My cousin, Noel, is taking this soap and he's grinding it through a meat grinder that then gets put into the cookers. I've done the research to know that I can rebatch it and make a brand new, really good bar of soap. How do you go about getting your soap in those early days? Did you have a big first donor? The Holiday Inn at the Orlando International Airport. I remember the general manager's name so clearly. It's Peter Favier. He said, I've often wondered what...

we could do with this. And if there's something you can do with it, give me anything and everything you need to collect it. And we will make sure that happens on our end and we'll get it back to you. Access to SOAP. And collecting soap was not the issue. That was very easy. It just became a matter of, you know, when we got it, what are we going to do with this recycled soap? Cypler found an unexpected answer to that question. That's coming up.

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As Sean Sipler was researching how to get the most out of his pile of used hotel soaps, he found himself going down a rabbit hole of scientific papers. At the time, those studies showed that around 6,000 children Under the age of five, we're dying every day from pneumonia and diarrheal disease. Every one of the studies showed that if you just gave them soap and taught them how and when to wash their hands, you could cut those deaths in half.

Getting soap to all those kids would require a slightly bigger operation, and that meant funding. Seipler spent $20,000 on grant writers and lawyers and sent out an application to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. His proposal was rejected. That was a devastating, very emotional moment of, what are we doing? Have I made a mistake in life?

Seipler decided to forge ahead anyway. He founded Clean the World, a nonprofit that provides soap and hygiene products to communities in need around the globe. Today, it's quite an enterprise.

Inside the Global Soap Recycling

Typically, a room attendant will clean anywhere from 11 to 13 rooms a day. That bag of soap is filling up. When they get to the end of their shift, there will be a Clean the World green bin for soap. Our system will route that box into one of our centers. So how does an old bar of soap become a new bar of soap? The first thing we do is we put it into a big machine that's got a big metal screw in it, just grinding that soap.

all the way through the very end, almost like a meat grinder. There's a very, very fine filter. That filter catches all the surface material. So any plastic, hair, paper. dirt. That metal screw is just pushing tens of thousands of pounds of pressure, and that's really doing the initial surface cleaning.

Those filters have to be changed about every 45 minutes. So it's almost like NASCAR. Every 45 minutes, we go in there with the big, you know, and we open it. We take one filter out. We put a new clean one in. As a part of that process, they're blending together shreds from a variety of soaps that hotel chains send them. Different types, different moisture levels, different fragrances. Looks like spaghetti noodles. When you take it over to a mixer, and this is where...

the most important team member we have comes into play. That would be the soap whisperer. Our soap whisperer here in Orlando is Carlos Anderson. Affectionately, nickname is Los D. He has to determine. How much water has to get put in so that it doesn't fall apart, so it doesn't crumble, so it's not too hard, so it's not any of the things that we don't want. We're also adding some sterilization solution. What comes out the end is very marble.

tie-dye looking bars of soap that have all these mixes, which actually makes a very cool, very unique bar of soap so that when we handed a bar of soap to somebody, there was some dignity, there was love. That palette. is going to the Dominican Republic. It may be going into Nairobi. It may be going into Uganda. It could be going to the Philippines. It could go into Ukraine to help those that are being impacted right now.

Funding, Impact, and Future of Waste

It's a noble pursuit, but none of this processing or shipping is free. Early on, Seipler realized he was going to need a funding plan. There was no business model. And really myself and another close friend who was a part of this, we were really going through a lot of money at this time, not seeing a financial result. How did you end up working around that issue?

There's value here to the hotels. This is a premium service for them. We're reducing landfill waste. We are sending soap back to countries and places where so many of the room attendants are actually from and are themselves sending money back to. In the state of Florida at that time, one-third of the room attendants were estimated to be from Haiti, and we were getting ready to send a bunch of soap back to Haiti.

There's a PR value here. So what's going on inside of me is we got to get hotels to pay for this. And they did. It's over a decade later, and the average U.S. hotel partner now pays Clean the World 50 to 80 cents per room per month. About a quarter of that is what the hotels were previously paying to waste management companies just to get rid of the soap. And that's without the global benefits and the good PR.

We recycle 1.4 million hotel rooms on a daily basis. In 13 years, we have diverted 22 million pounds of waste. And we have distributed 75 million donated bars of soap to children, families across the globe. It's a warm, fuzzy story for sure. Just remember, though, clean the world can't save all the soaps. In fact, they'd have to multiply their operation by a factor of about 100 in order to do it.

Cornell's Chekatan Dev thinks a lot about this world of waste that we've created. While I applaud Clean the World, I would like to see more efforts made at the root of the problem to give people an incentive. to bring your soap with you. Until then, every year, around three quarters of a billion barely used hotel soaps, maybe even yours. are headed to a landfill to join their friends. For the Economics of Everyday Things, I'm Zachary Crockett.

This episode was produced by Sarah Lilly and mixed by Jeremy Johnston with help from Greg Rippin and Emma Terrell. some friends in a garage cooking soap. What did that look like? First time that the police drove by the garage. I remember one of my family members going, Sean, I think you're going to need to talk to them about this one. The Freakonomics Radio Network. The hidden side of everything. I had that dream again.

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