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Eagles Draft: A Trade For The Future

May 02, 20159 min
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The Eagles traded out of the fourth round of the draft and acquired a third round selection for 2016 - get the latest as our Eagles Draft Central crew breaks it down ...

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We welcome you in the Eagles Draft Central, presented by Deetson Watson, Eagles insider Dave Spiderow along with Merrill Reese. And we're waiting to see what happens here in round number four for the Eagles, who have the thirteenth selection overall, fourteenth in this round. And we're getting early word via Twitter, of course, because that's where all the news is broken that the Eagles might be trading this pick to the Detroit Lions. That's the only detail we have right now.

We see all of these Detroit on the world, so there is a trade, the Eagles trading the pick to Detroit. Will get to details of that deal when we here are the details clearly a run on offensive line. Yeah, early midway through through this fourth round. So the Eagles maybe getting that extra fifth round pick that they traded, or perhaps even getting a pick for next year maybe, who knows. It's interesting that they move out of the fourth But there were three offensive live and chosen in

the last half dozen picks or so. There is one who was still out there who's interesting in that is Mark Lewinsky from West Virginia University. But not a lot of offensive lineman who have names that you recognize. At this point, I let's go over to the fan cave, Bo Wolf and Greg co Sell from NFL Films. Guys,

we have a trade in the works. I think this makes a lot of sense, guys, given that the fact that the Eagles gave up those two fifth round picks yesterday, Chip Kelly said, you want more picks than fewer picks, So certainly this does make sense. Just looking at the draft order here, it looks like Detroit didn't even have a fourth round pick, So it looks like the Eagles moving a pretty far ways down here in order to

recoup a few picks. And I think the depth of this offensive line class once you get beyond those first two day guys, there are a lot of athletic players who could sort of fit the Eagles mold. Maybe they'll end up being able to take two of them in the fifth round or so, and I guess that's possible. And see, now you get into what their draft board looks like, because we don't know exactly how they have

players valued and rated. But that's the key question here, because there are players here that I would feel very good about taking. Actually, Merrill mentioned Mark Lewinski, a player I watched sevent eight games of on film, a guard from West Virginia. I really like Lewinsky. I don't know again how he's rated on their draft board. I think he fits what the Eagles do. But again, now you're getting into a situation where maybe you feel you want more picks and you still can get players you value

relatively highly in the fifth or sixth round. In terms of other offensive linemen the Eagles have taken a look at in the pre draft process, Sean Hickey from Syracuse, Tyris Thompson from Oklahoma on that list, I think we were expecting if the Eagles did stay here, that Penn State safety Adrian Amos would have been a possib ability, a possibility. But I still believe they have to come out of this draft with some offensive lineman given what we've heard about Evan Mathis and his age, given the

age of Jason Peters. We don't know exactly how they feel about Matt Tobin at right guard. He's the starter as we speak today, So they need some offensive line depth simply on the left side because of age. All right, Gabe Wright from Auburn, the defensive tackle ends up being in the player taken with the Eagles selection by the Detroit Lions. I guess we'll find out how far down

the Eagles have moved. Dave back to you guys. Yeah, the word is via via our friend Adam Kaplan on Twitter says that the Eagles have acquired a third round draft pick in twenty sixteen great in exchange for that fourth round pick. So in theory, now, guys, the Eagles do not select in rounds four or five. We have

a long wait until pick one. That's good. I think that's great value, especially when you remember that the Eagles gave up their second round pick next year and the Sam Bradford trade, so now they'll have two thirds next year. Some ridge to move up. But you're right, obviously right now picks, it's the great value, no question about it. However, you guys are talking about the offensive line. We've talked about the offensive line. How much of a concern upstairs

is the offensive line? Clearly? Maybe not that much. You know, we we have been reading for weeks and weeks the possibility of releasing or trading Evan mathis maybe maybe that was just that reports. Maybe they believe that Evan mathis comes back in left guard, and Matt Tobin is the left of the right guard along with Alan Barber. And you know, we just keep moving forward here on this offensive line. But I mean, for me, the offensive line is the glaring question mark on the roster more than

defensive secondary, more than outside linebacker. Maybe that's not the way they feel upstairs. Yeah, and maybe it ends up being the kind of thing where after the draft the Eagles will circle back in free agency and see who else is still out there in veteran free agency. Maybe talking to Adam Caplan would be the person to talk to you about that. But yeah, and I think that's

clearly the case. They value either players on their roster more highly or the combination is that there's players in this draft that they truly feel it will be available later sixth round, seventh rounders. You mentioned bout free agency, but I agree with Dave. I think that the offensive line, even if you love your players that are the starters right now, you need some depth in this group simply because of age. Well, you know, this is why the

draft is so hard. It's really impossible to come out of draft week and filling every need on your team. You're always going to have some position that maybe didn't get quite as much attention as you expected to get. Yeah, And the main issue here, and this is why when people do mock drafts or talk about players, no one knows what a team's draft board looks like. You know, we're not asked to go and take a look at Chip Kelly's draft board, so we don't know exactly how

they have players rated. And because of that, it's very hard. You know, I spend a lot of time, as you know, bout watching tape. I have my evaluations based on traits, characteristics. I have players that I really like that I think would be good fits for the Eagles. They may not see those players, is the same way I do. How about this Eagles offensive line with the players who are still here? You know, Dave talked about Evan Mathis. How about Matt Toby. What did you make of his performance

getting to start? Yeah, in his second up and down, traits that you liked, but a lot of work to do, a clear work in progress as a starting right guard in the NFL. You know, I think if you're being honest and fair, and that's all where I'm trying to be when I watch films is. I don't think Lane Johnson played as well as they would hope a fourth pick in a draft would have played last year in

his second season coming back from the suspension. I think Jason Peters did not have anywhere near as good a year last year as he had the year before, when I thought he was clearly the best left tackle in the NFL. Evan mathis still on the roster, is going to be thirty four years old. So I think these are reasons why I believe you have to address the

offensive line. The only thing that really surprises me about the lack of offensive lineman taken here is that the indications from the Eagles offseasonning DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews, was that they were going to get back to really pounding the ball in the run game on offense. You would have thought that that meant bringing in some high level offensive lineman. But that's how the board has shaken out for the Eagles. We send it back out to

David Meryll. Let's talk about the genesis of a trade like this. It began in two thousand and twelve. Now follow me here, Merrill, the Eagles trading a cornerback Asante Samuel to the Atlanta Falcons for a seventh round draft pick. That seventh round draft pick became running back Bryce Brown, who I happened to be very high on at the time, who played sparingly at the University of Tennessee, played for

a couple of years here in Philadelphia. Was dealt last year to the Buffalo Bills for a fourth round pick, which turned out to be this selection right here, number one thirteen that goes to the Detroit Lions, and the Eagles get back a third round draft pick in twenty sixteen. So Asante Samuel years later still paying off for the Philip Alfhew Eagles in the form of a two thousand

and sixteen third round pick, and merrill. As it stands now, no picks in round four, no picks in round five, and I'll see you in a couple of hours when Eagles get up and get ready for pick number one. It really is. And at that point you're just looking for the best players on your board. So I want to hear you come up with some names between now and then, because Amos won't be there. None of those guys that you've got on your list will be there in round six. If you're worth your soul, well let's

see what we can do. Yeah, all right, So that's it for us until the next time the Eagles have the pick, and we'll come back live with more Eagles Draft Central presented by Deetson Watson

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