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The Duct Tape Marketing Podcast

Insightful interviews with authors, experts, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders who share valuable marketing tips, growth strategies, and resources. Hosted by John Jantsch, one of America's top small business marketing experts, this show is dedicated to helping you craft effective marketing strategies that will grow your business. Whether you're a small business owner, marketing professional, or marketing agency owner, you'll gain valuable insights and actionable advice on topics such as marketing strategy, consulting, social media marketing, content marketing, SEO, email marketing, lead generation, business management, entrepreneurship and much more. With over 900 episodes since its inception in 2005, The Duct Tape Marketing podcast is your go-to resource for all things marketing or business growth. Join us each week as we dive into the latest marketing trends and strategies that will help you achieve your business goals. Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn from the best in the business. Tune in to The Duct Tape Marketing podcast and start listening today!
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Episodes

How to Think Strategically About AI Tools

Dan Sanchez is an AI marketing strategist, consultant, and creator of the AI-Driven Marketer podcast. He’s a leading voice in the intersection of artificial intelligence and marketing strategy, helping businesses harness AI for content creation, automation, and growth. In this episode, Dan shares how marketers can think strategically about AI tools like ChatGPT—using them not just to automate tasks, but to enhance problem-solving, productivity, and creative strategy. Tune in to learn how to cut ...

Jul 03, 202525 min

AI’s Real Role in Marketing

Andy Crestodina is the co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Orbit Media Studios and a leading authority on digital marketing, content strategy, and SEO. With two decades of hands-on experience and author of Content Chemistry, Andy joins John Jantsch to explore how AI is transforming content creation, analytics, and marketing strategy. They dive deep into using AI for genuine performance gains, not just efficiency, and share practical insights to help marketers stay ahead. Tune in to discove...

Jul 02, 202524 min

Win Clients by Leading, Not Following

Blair Enns is a globally recognized thought leader in creative agency sales and the founder of Win Without Pitching, a revolutionary approach that empowers agencies to lead client engagements without giving away free work. He is the author of bestselling books including Pricing Creativity and his latest, The Four Conversations. In this episode, Blair breaks down his powerful new framework for selling expertise—moving from pitching and price haggling to confidently leading sales conversations. Li...

Jun 26, 202523 min

How to Win Media with AI-Powered PR

Jon Mest is the founder of JustReachOut.io, a cutting-edge PR software platform, and ChatRank.ai, a breakthrough tool for AI-driven SEO. With over a decade of experience helping entrepreneurs and businesses land powerful media coverage, Jon shares his insights on how AI is transforming PR and search strategies. In this episode, he reveals how to build authentic media pitches, win attention in AI-powered search overviews, and why hyper-specific storytelling is the new secret to visibility. Tune i...

Jun 25, 202522 min

The 7 Roles Every Small Business Owner Must Master (and How to Manage Them All)

As a small business owner, you're constantly wearing different hats, from CEO to salesperson to project manager – but what's the secret to juggling it all without burning out? In this insightful episode, John explores the seven critical roles every entrepreneur needs to master, offering actionable advice for delegating, automating, and optimizing your business operations. His practical strategies will help marketing consultants, agency owners, and small business leaders shift from being trapped ...

Jun 19, 202518 min

How to Stay Visible in the AI Search Era

In this solo episode, John unpacks why traditional SEO is no longer enough and how businesses must shift toward search visibility in the age of AI. He explores the impact of zero click searches, E-E-A-T, and AI overviews, and shares actionable strategies to stay visible across Google and beyond.

Jun 18, 202520 min

Local SEO Tactics for the AI-Powered Web

David Hunter is the CEO of Local Falcon, an AI-powered local SEO platform, and founder of Epic Web Studios, a leading digital marketing agency with over 15 years of industry experience. In this episode, he joins John Jantsch to explore how AI overviews and conversational search are revolutionizing local SEO and reshaping Google’s search behavior. From proximity ranking shifts to the power of structured content and authoritative sources, David shares cutting-edge insights that every local busines...

Jun 12, 202521 min

How AI is Rewriting the Customer Journey

With over two decades of experience helping small businesses thrive, John dives solo into this episode to explore how AI is revolutionizing the buyer's journey. He breaks down the stages of his signature “Marketing Hourglass” framework and shares how businesses must adapt their strategies in an AI-driven world. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your marketing by aligning with evolving customer behavior, embracing self-service tools, and doubling down on authenticity and trust. Today we discus...

Jun 11, 202512 min

AI, Authenticity, and the Future of PR

Christine Perkett is a seasoned entrepreneur, communications strategist, and co-founder of The Nova Method—a pioneering PR and marketing firm focused on audience-first strategy and brand trust in the age of AI. She is also the founder of Perkett PR and a faculty member at Northeastern University, where she teaches graduate-level social media and branding. In this episode, Christine shares how brands can stay authentic and human while leveraging technology, and introduces the Nova Method’s signat...

Jun 05, 202525 min

Why It's Time to Retire the Idea of Retirement with Derek Coburn

Derek Coburn is a seasoned financial advisor, entrepreneur, and bestselling author of Networking Is Not Working. He is the co-founder of Cadre, an exclusive community for CEOs and entrepreneurs, and a respected voice on redefining success and fulfillment. In this episode, Derek dives into the ideas behind his new book Let’s Retire Retirement, challenging the outdated notion of traditional retirement and offering a fresh, liberating approach to living well now and later. Listeners will gain valua...

Jun 04, 202521 min

How Leaders Should Really Use AI

Geoff Woods is the #1 international bestselling author of The AI-Driven Leader: Harnessing AI to Make Faster Decisions and the founder of AI Leadership and the AI Driven Leadership Collective. As a former Chief Growth Officer of a global company, Geoff brings real-world expertise in using AI to transform how leaders think and make decisions. In this episode, he reveals how AI can serve as a powerful thought partner—enhancing strategic focus, overcoming operational overwhelm, and unlocking breakt...

May 29, 202524 min

Why Balance Is a Lie for Entrepreneurs

Mike and Kass Lazerow are seasoned entrepreneurs and investors, best known for co-founding Golf.com and Buddy Media—acquired by Salesforce for $745 million. They've backed nearly 100 early-stage startups, contributing to over $10 billion in realized gains. In this episode, they dive into the raw, often messy reality of entrepreneurship, sharing hard-earned lessons from their journey and their latest book. Listeners will gain powerful insights on thriving in uncertainty, embracing the grind, and ...

May 28, 202522 min

AI Ethics in Marketing: Why Strategy and Responsibility Must Go Hand in Hand

Paul Chaney is a veteran digital marketer, B2B content strategist, and publisher of the AI Marketing Ethics Digest on Substack. In this episode, Paul joins host John Jantsch to explore the crucial yet overlooked intersection of AI and marketing ethics. From the risks of "shadow AI" and techno-stress to building responsible governance frameworks and his Generative AI Business Adoption Hierarchy, Paul offers a grounded, strategic perspective on how businesses can navigate AI adoption with integrit...

May 22, 202524 min

The Anti-Agency Model: A Bold New Future for Marketing Services with Sara Nay

Sara Nay, CEO of Duct Tape Marketing and longtime collaborator with John Jantsch, joins the show to unveil a bold new approach to delivering marketing services—the Anti-Agency Model. With over 15 years of experience leading strategy and innovation, Sara breaks down why the traditional agency model is failing both marketers and small businesses, and how AI is reshaping everything from execution to internal team leadership. This episode explores the shift from outsourced marketing to building in-h...

May 21, 202525 min

Why Tiny Experiments Might Be the Key to Sustainable Success

Anne-Laure Le Cunff is a neuroscientist, entrepreneur, and founder of the wildly popular Ness Labs—a platform focused on mindful productivity and creative experimentation. A former marketing executive at Google, Anne-Laure brings both scientific rigor and real-world insight to the conversation. In this episode, she shares ideas from her new book Tiny Experiments, revealing how to break free from rigid goal-setting and design small, curiosity-driven experiments that foster personal and profession...

May 15, 202522 min

Human Connection Is a Growth Tactic

Jonathan Grabowski is the co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Penji, an innovative on-demand graphic design platform known for delivering unlimited custom design services with a human-first approach. Under his leadership, Penji has grown into a 500-person global team by blending systematized creative services with deep empathy and customer care. In this episode, Jonathan shares how businesses can scale design, improve customer experience, and outshine competitors by focusing on connection ...

May 14, 202524 min

Why Knowing Yourself Is Your Greatest Asset

Suzy Welch is a New York Times bestselling author, and professor at NYU Stern School of Business. She’s also the creator of Becoming You, a proven method for aligning your values, aptitudes, and interests to design a purpose-driven career. In this episode, Suzy shares how her transformative framework helps individuals cut through the noise and find true clarity about who they are and what they’re meant to do. Today we discussed: 00:00 Opening 00:09 Introducing Suzy Welsh 01:24 What Inspired Beco...

May 08, 202522 min

Give Your Marketing Strategy a Smart Upgrade

Keith Lauver is a serial entrepreneur, seasoned marketing strategist, and founder of Atomic Elevator, the company behind Ella—an AI-powered marketing platform transforming how brands approach strategy and execution. He has launched six companies and raised over $34 million through product-driven growth. In this episode, Keith shares how High Definition Marketing and AI tools like Ella are redefining marketing for small businesses and agencies alike. Discover how to align your marketing strategy ...

May 07, 202522 min

5 Ways Google Search Console Can Help Your SEO Strategy

John breaks down five powerful ways to use Google Search Console to transform your SEO strategy. From uncovering high-intent search queries to improving click-through rates and measuring true search visibility, this episode offers practical insights that go far beyond rankings. If you're ready to turn SEO data into real business results, this episode is a must-listen. Today we discussed: 00:00 Opening 00:09 SEO is Not Dead 02:53 Intent and Content Opportunities 05:12 Local and Branded Visibility...

May 01, 202512 min

Outsmarting AI: Secrets to Human-Centered Marketing

Mark Schaefer is a globally recognized marketing futurist, bestselling author of Marketing Rebellion and The Content Code, and host of the top-ranked Marketing Companion podcast. He’s also a keynote speaker and trusted strategy consultant to some of the world’s leading brands. In this episode, Mark joins the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast to discuss his latest book, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. He shares powerful insights on why human-centered marketing is the antidote to AI ...

Apr 30, 202525 min

How to Think Strategically About AI Tools

Dan Sanchez is an AI marketing strategist, consultant, and creator of the AI-Driven Marketer podcast. He’s a leading voice in the intersection of artificial intelligence and marketing strategy, helping businesses harness AI for content creation, automation, and growth. In this episode, Dan shares how marketers can think strategically about AI tools like ChatGPT—using them not just to automate tasks, but to enhance problem-solving, productivity, and creative strategy. Tune in to learn how to cut ...

Apr 24, 202525 min

Build Trust by Saying What Others Won’t

Marcus Sheridan is a globally recognized keynote speaker, author of They Ask, You Answer, and founder of one of the world’s most visited swimming pool websites. With over 750 keynotes delivered—including TEDx—and features in The New York Times and Forbes, Marcus is a trusted voice in content marketing and brand transparency. In this episode, he shares how businesses can dominate their industries by building customer trust by embracing self-service tools, and saying what competitors won’t. Tune i...

Apr 23, 202526 min

The New SEO Playbook for Business Growth

John dives deep into the evolving landscape of SEO in this solo episode. He breaks down what today’s marketers need to know about zero-click searches, AI content, Google Search Console, and how to build search strategies that actually drive conversions. Whether you're a local business owner or a digital agency, this episode delivers a fresh SEO playbook packed with actionable insights to boost visibility, authority, and high-intent traffic. Don't miss this essential update on what really works i...

Apr 17, 202519 min

Win by Focusing on Your Core Users

Shane Murphy-Reuter is the President of GTM at Calendly, a leading scheduling software platform trusted by millions. With a proven track record in scaling SaaS companies like Intercom and Webflow, Shane brings deep expertise in product-led growth, sales strategy, and category creation. In this episode, he shares how Calendly has evolved beyond scheduling to serve SMBs and solopreneurs through AI-driven relationship management tools. Tune in to learn how focusing on your core users can drive sust...

Apr 16, 202524 min

Bridging the Courage Gap in Your Business

Dr. Margie Warrell is a bestselling author, leadership coach, and global authority on courage, risk-taking, and transformational leadership. She’s worked with Fortune 500 companies, coached C-suite executives, and spoken at the US Congress—empowering thousands to lead with boldness and integrity. In this episode, we dive into her latest book, The Courage Gap: Five Steps to Braver Action, exploring how fear, self-doubt, and imposter syndrome silently sabotage decision-making and business growth. ...

Apr 10, 202522 min

SEO Tactics That Actually Work in 2025

Prasanna Dhungel is the co-founder and managing partner at Grow By Data, with nearly two decades of experience leading innovation in marketing, tech, healthcare, and SaaS. A graduate of Cornell, Princeton, and Kellogg School of Management, Prasanna brings deep expertise in digital strategy and search engine evolution. In this episode, he breaks down the future of SEO in an AI-dominated world—covering Google’s AI overview, zero-click searches, and how brand visibility is being redefined. You'll l...

Apr 09, 202522 min

Your Book Launch Needs a Marketing Plan

With experience marketing over 1,000 books, Alex Strathdee (CEO of Shelf Life and author of Before the Bestseller), shares why most authors fail to sell books and what to do instead. From free reader seeding to building an author email list and launching with a strategy, he breaks down how to turn your book into a true business asset. If you’re an entrepreneur or author looking to drive serious book sales without wasting time or money, this episode is a must-listen. Today we discussed: [00:00] O...

Apr 03, 202523 min

The Future of Marketing Is More Human Than Ever

Carlos Gil, global marketing leader, bestselling author of The End of Marketing, and Brand Evangelist at GetResponse, shares bold, future-focused insights on why traditional marketing is fading and how humanizing your brand is the key to standing out in the AI era. We dive into the evolving role of AI in marketing, the power of employee advocacy, and why building authentic brand relationships will define the next generation of marketing success. Today we discussed: [00:00] Opening [00:09] Introd...

Apr 02, 202524 min

Build a Brand Gen Z Wants to Work (and Buy) From

I chat with Len Silverman—seasoned entrepreneur, longtime Learning Center owner, and author of Mesh: Aligning Your Personal Brand with Gen Z. With over 30 years of business experience and a front-row seat to Gen Z's development, Len offers expert insights into how businesses can attract, engage, and retain Gen Z employees. We explore what makes this generation tick, why traditional hiring practices fall short, and how aligning your company culture with Gen Z values can be a game-changer. If you'...

Mar 27, 202521 min

Why AI Isn’t Replacing You—It’s Freeing You

I chat with Keith Lauver—serial entrepreneur, product launch veteran, and founder of Atomic Elevator, the company behind the high-definition marketing platform Ella. With over $34 million raised for product launches and clients like Trader Joe’s and Whole Foods, Keith brings deep expertise in strategic marketing and AI tools for entrepreneurs. We dive into how AI is transforming small business marketing—not by replacing people, but by freeing them to focus on what they do best. If you're curious...

Mar 26, 202524 min
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