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Spence checkets Beyond the Mike, Porter Larson Beyond the Glass today on this hunt Day edition of the program, this Wednesday edition of the program. You are halfway through your work week, You're one day closer to the weekend, and the madness of March is upon us. We've got the ACC Tournament second round action going on right now in the studio, North Carolina with a twenty point lead.

Over Notre Dame.

Iowa State took care of Cincinnati earlier in the Big twelve Championship second round action, which means Iowa State advances onto the quarterfinals where tomorrow Iowa State will be looking for a little bit of payback. It is Iowa State and it is BYU. That's going to be a ten to thirty a m start that will be on it ESPN two or ESPN Plus.

In Big Twelve tournament action.

So we'll get you all the latest from the conference tournaments going on. We'll do a little bracketology update. How many Big twelve teams are high speed ahead of the tournament. What does it mean for the seeding for BYU. Utah State clearly in the mix to make the NCUBA Tournament, So we'll get to the latest with the local stuff. The University of Utah will not go to the tournament and will not have postseason basketball.

In their reality.

It's been nine years, nine years, nine times Ferris Bueller for those jet exers out there since the Utah Utes made the NCUBA Tournament. They had a twelve point lead there in the first half, then everything fell apart. Ucf ran away eighty seven to seventy two, and Utah basketball done for the year. So now we talk about what's next and what's next under the new head coach for the Utes, Alex Jensen, the seventeenth head coach in Utah

In pro basketball.

Last night, Cleveland Cavaliers won their fifteenth straight basketball game. Donovan Mitchell continues to be incredibly impressive. So a little bit of NBA action last night, but not a lot. There's not a ton So we get a full slate of NBA basketball tonight while you're waiting for the local stuff. As far as the college game goes, you can tune into the Jazz and the Grizzlies tonight.

The latest with.

The NFL offseason carousel, My goodness, a lot of NFL news to get to on the program today. We've got a good NFL guest to get to the free agent stuff, which officially began today, but unofficially the information came spilling in about forty eight hours ago. The San Francisco forty nine ers are gutting their roster to prepare to pay Brock Purdy. The reality of being an NFL fan is once that rookie deal is up. You got to pay the quarterback, which means talented players must be moved on from So.

We'll get to the latest.

There.

Utah Hockey Club back in action tonight. They're taking on Anaheim. They are technically still alive for the wild card. I don't want to be the wet blanket, but I don't think it's going to happen this year. Bill Armstrong, friend of the show, very intentional with his process, very intentional with how he's got about building this thing up.

So we'll do a little hockey on the program today.

Midweek means we're a little bit closer the weekend, which means we're a little bit closer to the next match for Reale Salt Lake RSL on the road, taking on Houston, a road trip that has not spread a lot of results historically speaking for this soccer club, and right now it is not a great time for RSL fans after a really, really pathetic start to the season. Quite frankly, do a little RSL on the program today. Is Aaron Rodgers high speed ahead to be the next quarterback for

We'll do a little story time, some memories.

With Sarah Todd, and then the head coach, the manager of RSL Good vibes guy, but I'm a results over vibes guy, Pablo.

Master you when he stops by.

We're gonna have to get with Pablo today to see if he's concerned about the start of the season for his little soccer club and what's next starting coming up this weekend against Houston. So Sean Mooney, Aaron Shatz, Sarah Todd, Pablo Master, Jenning, Me Spence Checkets, I'll be the great listeners.

Happy Wednesday, Happy fifty.

Two degrees sunny and clear Wednesday, as some snow and rain is high speed ahead for the weekend. Me Spence Checket's all be the great listeners. That guy Porter Larson auDA Wednesday afternoon. I gotta say I feel like the way that Utah lost that game last night was kind of an embodiment of the season, and I think it was just time.

To get this thing over with.

It would have been fun to see him maker Rod, but if we're being real, I think it was probably time just to let's put this one behind us now, let's focus on what's next.

I mean, I think that's that's kind of where everyone's at. That's where the program is, and that's, you know, as you said, kind of how last night felt. It encapsulated where the program is now. From what I understand, there is a potential of them accepting one of the like obscure tournament invites. They actually are probably going to do that if they if they get the invite, but again, as you said, results means in the NCAA tournament, in the Big twelve tournament, and it just didn't feel like

No doubt, No doubt.

So it's always fun to have some optimism, and I think Alex Jensen has brought that optimism to this market.

So we'll get to it on the program today.

Sean Mooney will be our first guest right out of the gates on this Wednesday afternoon. But before we get to Sean, courtsy if our good friends, you're good friends too at Prize Picks. It is time now on a Wednesday, for your opening tip.

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So Big twelve Tournaments Big twelve Men's Basketball Tournament. It was the first four a in to Big twelve tournament play for the Utah Utes, taking on the UCF Knights, the team that beat them in Orlando just a few weeks back.

It was the final game for Craig Smith.

After that loss in Orlando, Craig was shown the door and last night at Big twelve Championship Kansas City, Phillip sixty six shout out to the sponsor.

Let's be clear.

In Kansas City, the UCF Knights were able to really run away from the Utes after a solid start to the game, so Utah was up twelve in the first half. They were really utilizing their massive size. The starting lineup. The coach Eyler marched out, the smallest player was Gabe Matts and Gabies six' five and he's all of six to five and he's a big body, kid and he was the smallest player in that starting.

Lineup and it was working for a.

While a lot of rim, runs left of, dives a lot of, dunks a lot of, layups a lot of driving, kicks a lot of aggressive. Play early they were dominating the glass early lost and had some good dunks and good. Layups Keana daz was an animal and we'll get To kano in a, minute but they were crashing the, glass they were getting layups and. Dunks they were not relying on the outside shot because quite, frankly they're not a

Threes he just could not hit a. Shot gabe was only two of.

Nine as a, team there were four of twenty six from, three AND ucf essentially was daring them to shoot it because it was the attacking the glass attacking the painted, area As Huge brown would, say getting dunks and layups that Allowed utah to get off to that twelve point.

Lead and then defensively it just wasn't good.

Enough Keishawn hall had twenty, three he shot fourteen free, Throws Darius johnson had twenty and ULTIMATELY ucf was able to utilize a defensive. Adjustment they got a random good game out Of Jordan Ivory. Curry you had fifteen points off the, bench and he was questionable prior to the start of the. Game weren't even sure if he was going to be able to actually, play but he gave them a little bit of a shot of, life and after that twelve point lead in the first, HALF ucf

Year that's just my. Opinion is that reality probably.

Not but If utah basketball is going to get back to where we're used to seeing it be at least back in the day for those of us who were around when it was good year and in year, out every single, year they should, be if not making the, tournament knocking on the door to be considered as an automatic qualifier if you don't win The Big Twelve, Championship and if we're, honest they're not close to. That so

Pivot he takes off as a.

Senior Gabe matts In leeds campus is the all time leading three point shot maker In utah.

History his Brother mason also a. Senior Shrav jamps is a.

Junior he's got great measurables at six,' nine there are a lot of holes in. His game he's a league guard that doesn't shoot it well from. The outside do you believe in? His evolution do you think you can? Keep Improving Is alex jensen interested In having Mike shrav jamps back on campus. Next Year jake walaleen is the Other player i'd. Point out jake had some moments in the first half it was not his. Finest game he had,

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Season long utah basketball season for all intents, and purposes comes to an end last NIGHT Against ucf Big, twelve championship, first round eighty seven to. Seventy two we'll see if they accepted INVITATION to i don't know whatever is NOT The ncaa tournament OR the nit OR the cbi or whatever a series of letters you want to. Put together not sure if that's going to, go down but our next guest may have. Some Insight Sean mooney, Wednesday, Afternoon Sean, happy, wednesday sir how are?

You pace? Take it? I'm good how, are you?

My brother, i'm, Well man.

I'm well so let's just start in a vacuum with what you saw. Last night, you know the start was, pretty encouraging and that starting Lineup That josh eiler marched, out there a bunch of big dudes in the, you know the straight line dives to, the rim the ability to have some pocket passes in, the interior layups and donks led them to a twelve point lead And Then johnny dawkins go zone and it kind of all. Falls apart but, Tell, me sean what you saw from?

Your, seat, yeah, no, kids job you did good to.

Be scribing do you have any time for extra fellow work on. THE air i know you spend a lot of time on.

THE radio i want all, Of.

IT sean i want a breakdown.

For you you'd, Be, good. NO listen, i, mean so here's. The deal we were really good in that in that. FIRST half ucf is not typically a, good Defensively and i've got to give them a little. More credit LAST night i got a little over my SKIS because I think i. Was frustrated so that, First Half kuana does comes in. Picks up obviously we're really missing as right

Last night so what's fair to say about the lack? Of Adjustments When johnny dawkins did go to that, excuse me did go to, that zone, and yes he would stagger it up top and then they'd break into a, matchup zone and it was it certainly was more complex than simply a straight two to three or a one to, three one even though it times had looked.

Like that but it took the it took the error out of the Tires for.

Utah offensively is it lack, of adjustment sean or is it just not having the personnel because they could not hit the broadside of? A?

Barn, YEAH yeah, I mean i mean you've kind of got to say. IT'S adjustments i want to say. Adjustments first so against, the zone there are lots of things that you. Can do, and again like give uc a credit because it wasn't just. A three but, you know obviously we got a lot of what's Called a. Jordan cutter we got a catch in the paint free throw line to restrict, a circle and we made. An adjustment We put hunter, in there And when hunter was, in

The paint we didn't go.

Short corner we did go deep corner a couple, of times And like jake while lean early had it wide open three and you kind of hope you make one of those because and then it Maybe makes dawkins think. About IT and i Talked to you've probably heard THIS because i know You Follow coach larson came on after.

The Show.

Tyler larson, great coach, great kid great. Young man everyone was a kid. To, Me Sorry, coach larson and he, just said, you know it doesn't even really matter what we didn't do against his own because we couldn't defend Him and. He's right we could not defend them in the. Second half and we talked about loading up, the paint meaning helping On The darius, johnson drive helping On The, kishan hall not Not Fouling, kishan hall and.

We just didn't get. It, done spence we couldn't get it. Done defensively, ALL.

Right i want to ask You About kana.

Kanu does first, Of, all sean could you dunk it back in.

THE day, i, mean yeah but not. In, traffic okay.

There's a difference between dunking and dunking. And trafficking keana does obviously can do.

That well THE reason i bring it UP is i always said that it's a GOOD thing i couldn't dunk The way keanu, could dunk BECAUSE if i, COULD dunk i would only try to dunk EVERY time i got. THE ball i would try to dunk it. Every time AND what i Love about keanu is he tries to dunk it every.

Single time he wants to take.

Your, soul now three of the five Games after josh took Over, for craig he put up, double doubles and he had a career high in both points and boards last night with twenty one. AND fifteen i don't want to be as reductive as To say josh likes him more. Than whatever but why do you think we waited this long and kind of unleashed?

This, Weapon.

Complicated but the main reason Probably why katie didn't play as Much with craig is.

DEFENSIVE assignments i would.

Say that you know sometimes and he's. A sophomore he played a Year, at RICE and i think He Was all, league academics so certainly FROM an, iq standpoint he's capable of understanding. The assignments sometimes what happens, with coaches and this is just my assumption based ON what, i saw is,

Of anybody and that's.

Saying something any any other takeaways from your eye after watching this, this team When when craig was, let go and And and josh. Took over any other, schematic changes lineup changes that stood out to you outside Of elevating giano and letting him play more minutes.

And not not, not entirely there were a couple Of Different coach larson did a lot of the side out and. End outs they ran. Similar STUFF but i do think that you saw the schematic difference That Really coach eyler talked about was punching it in, the paint trying to get into. The paint that that, was successful and even though we won the paint, last night there were other

Their way, all.

Right before we get to, What's next let's give some of these young men a little bit of love who deserve it as.

They kind of kind of kind of walk out.

The door.

YOU know i said this last Year After brandon. CARLSON graduated, i said, you know any youth fan should Always Remember brandon carlson as a youthe legend because he, stuck around he, played well, he grew, he evolved, he improved and now he's making money in. Pro BASKETBALL and i think we should say the same Thing. About Gabe About. Gabe, MATTSON now I think gabe himself would tell you this year

The, program yeah it is certainly. Not nothing there's so many things to Say. About gabe but LAST night i was saying this on, The, air gabe he just struggled with they shot, This, Year spence and, you're right he was top of the list in terms of teams trying to defend him and. Stop him and that kind of changed.

A little bit towards the end of the, year because like, you said his percentages weren't. The same he lost.

His competence he kind of got in an alex shooters and do but he never ever stopped being, a leader in particular with. His Defense often gabe was defending the other shooter on the other team or their. BEST player i, would say like the Biggest improvement gabe had from year one to, last night it's his defense and his desire and he was such a Good leader spence on so,

Every possession and he.

Did that, last night even though he didn't shoot a great till the. Very end he hit a couple and he had some wide open threes and you know he missed the layup and it was tough. WATCHING him i mean there's always some SADNESS because, i mean when, the ends then that's that's what's happening.

For everybody what.

About Loss And lowson lovering who clearly evolved, and improved and You know craig And, coach eilert they ran a lot of their offense through him because of his size and because of. HIS skill, i mean he really is a skilled, you know the free throw stuff is what.

It is but, You KNOW lowton i.

Think leaves here with his head, held high and, his father a very vocal social, media presence, you know points Out that lawson will leave with his, confidence intact his head held high and also. His degree So as losson exits, The, program sean what do you have to say?

ABOUT him i love what his.

DAD said I think i actually reposted that because we spent.

You know this year in.

This business in, the, end man these, are people right and get in a degree is what. IT'S about. I, mean NOW everyone i think has a different idea about whether they think that's.

What's about but.

Certainly, for me for, my family that degree has made a. BIG difference I think losson gave his heart and. His soul he's a kid who plays with a lot. Of passion he learned how to temper that a. Little bit, you know he's the kind of kid that would get balled hard and then, you know come running back up the floor and throw himself. Into somebody he got better and better. At that he was under a lot of pressure. This year you could really see In the uston game

TEMPTED him.

I thought my favorite thing about him at the end of the season and half half part of, the season at last half part of the season was he would look at the basket and his defender would be helping on somebody else as or somebody and he'd.

Take one dribble. And dunk.

You know that was kind Of the that was the famous The good laws going strong to.

The hoop Last player i'll ask you about then we'll, move on, excuse me move on to. What's Next hunter erickson spent a couple of YEARS, at byu goes to Solid. COMMUNITY college i don't know who he thinks he is with that put back DUNK. AGAINST byu i didn't know he had that, In him like, goodness gracious But his hunter exits. The program kind of. Same question what would you say?

About, him, YEAH yeah i mean another great. Kid man he never needed the limelight or. The spotlight he tried to defend as high level as. He could he was. Really physical he's a really. Nice, kid yeah. Super ethletic that's gonna be One that i'll. Not forget BILL and i could not believe it was a big. Time, dunk yeah in. My dreams And then hunter just he's all about.

The. Team man he didn't care if he would.

Say this, YOU know i don't care where he, used me how you. USE me i just want to be a part of. The team and he truly. Meant that and, You, know hunter he does have a year left now because of the new ruling with the junior college. Not COUNTING oh I, Think, HUNTER yeah I think hunter is a classic example Of a. UTAH kid i get to say This because I'm from utah who had a successful but not like.

Over the top. College basketball, all.

Right one, more question you're ACTUAL because i forgot to Ask you gabe's. Basketball future what DO you i don't know if HE'S an. NBA guy i wasn't Sure About, sam merrill And obviously sam has proven. Me wrong he's not JUST an. Nba guy he's a champ and he's making a lot. Of money but do You think gabe's basketball future includes, you know the ability, to uh, you know play somewhere for.

A paycheck, i mean he definitely can play somewhere for. A paycheck i don't think that's going to BE. The Nba sam merrill is a good playmaker on top of a very good shooter and maybe, you know, more athletic which is. SAYING something. I think this is my. PERSONAL opinion I think gabe's knees aren't one. HUNDRED percent i think we saw him fight through some stuff that no

To somewhere, tim McMahon who Covers The dallas MAVERICKS for espn joined the Show on tuesday and Reported That alex jensen was going to be At the big.

Twelve tournament did you, See, HIM sean.

I did, see, Him yes.

SUNDAY night i got, there Early and sunday night he And coach islert were coming off the out of the ELEVATOR and, I, said hi, gave him, you know dapped him up a little bit now and he kind of. Knows me but, you KNOW like i tell, YOU this i was, no GOOD but i was one of the first Guys In coach macjeris's walk, on hierarchy and so, You know i'm the guy who would go go up down, to say, you, know wow it's just nice to. Meet you he was very time he was there with. THE

As FAR as. I, know, oh okay.

Ten, Four well i'm just wondering because my, guess, is well whether he was there. Or not i'm sure he watched. The game and my Guess Is kano dawes might catch. His eye my Guess Is ezra sar might catch. His Eye Or jake Waaleen Or shrab jams could not hit a shot, last night but he's six, or nine there's some measurables, to like or maybe even the mirror. Little kid any thoughts on who potentially could return to Play for alex, Next, YEAR.

Yeah, i Mean If, i'm alex, you KNOW obviously i want to come in with, my BLUEPRINT what i think is best for, the PROGRAM what i think is going to be best for myself and my, coaching staff and obviously you got to get your coaching together as soon. As possible, and yeah absolutely he. Was WATCHING and i think the vibe from the kids was that he was. Easy going we know That about alex and that they felt comfortable. Around him so that's a.

Good, Thing yeah KEANA does, I Mean i'm I'm a.

Kadi fan i'm an as Fan As ezra alser brings. Joy man he is just a. Joyful kid and Other Than, keishawn hall he probably made people found him more. Than anybody that's probably, not accurate but he's in the top four as Far as Miro and Mike. And Jake jake wilelean did everything for us. This year he was a great. Utility player he needs to continue to work on his shot to get better because that's going to make. A difference but he was a great. Defensive player he's a legit.

Guard next year.

IT'D be Great i hope alex has exactly what he wants in his head and, maybe you know some of those kids want to say and we'll.

See HIM again so i.

Know you've already referenced That you and alex aren't best, bugs or anything, but you know ultimately you guys do share, something in common and you Both played for rick and you Both ultimately are. Utah BASKETBALL lum and i like to think that's a family and a fraternity where you kind of all are in the same little pie or.

Was, THE guy, yeah i mean, First of all. I'M super, excited i, was you know watching With coach Early Wine and coach connor that. Ninety eight final we made It Down to san Antonio and begg dwayne into. A hotel ROOM at. Least i did Connor And coach early. Wine Has something coach earline was one, of My Coaches and coach connor is my best man, in my wedding and we're we're absolutely close. To the friends, and you know we we we've Been Cheering for alex jensen for.

A long time. We like him He's everything that utah basketball and coach.

Mcjerifs was about He is. The paris mccurty you're not going to. Know the name he Played a Ball state of utah men's Basketball For coach coach majeris would always talk to us about, His Previous Player sidney, moncree paris mccurty and we had to hear about how. Tough, they were well that Is Absolutely who. Alex jensen is and if you're going to have a team coached by a

A New future so I'm Told, That andre miller i'm told that that is. In the works i'm not Going to say i'm told, that it's done but, conversations Are ongoing and i'm told that there's mutual Interest In. Making andre Miller, IF not alex's i would imagine he would be.

THE lead assistant. I Don't.

Know and, sean for me as, a gen Xer as a utah basketball fan and student, in the nineties the cachet and credibility you have when you walk into A Gym with andre miller on your, bench is like that, makes, Me excited Right and maybe i'm just of, a certain age and maybe the youngs don't really understand what a bad.

Boy he was but give.

Me your thoughts If, It is andre if They Land on Andre miller is, alex's lead assistant what do you?

MAKE of, that, I mean yeah i.

Hope IT is Also, i mean. Andre he's special he came into the program and your.

Listeners are probably old enough.

To know this HE was at, prop forty eight which means he had to sit out his first year and. Concentrate on school and, he did it and he came in and he and his mom were a huge Part of the university of.

You talk community.

He's the best i'm going to put him at the top of my list Form my favorite utah. PLAYER as, ever i mean he was a. Rebound down guard if, anything went wrong he e rectified it immediately on. The defensive end he had. A great, body i mean, just YOU know a i, would say like if You You have Alex Jensen and andre miller, and your staff the fans are going to really enjoy. What they see and certainly From a relating andre was in the league for sixteen years as a point guard and a. Good, POINT guard.

Yeah i just think it's it's gonna.

Be really helpful, and you know this move towards kind of, the pro style meaning that you bring people in that understand what it takes to get to the next level and what it takes to.

Be a pro you can bring. That into college we're hearing. All about that.

Those, Are two obviously alex is Already There and andre miller's been there and HE'S Coaching. The g league it's.

A dream matchup it's a Dream. MADE in heaven i.

Agree with you are you hearing any other rumors concerning names as far as filling out? The staff goes any thoughts for our listeners, Who, Are, CURIOUS sean.

Yeah i, Haven't HEARD anything and I mean that i'm not JUST saying that i, am connected, to you know the team in a way. That IS unique and, I mean basically i know the current staff had a chance to, talk WITH him and i don't know what, those conversations were but you need to bring in some college coaches that have been coaching in college and they know, what's

MANY days job I wonder.

If ALEX would, be, I Mean look josh eiler Played In.

The big twelve he's been an Assistant In the big twelve at, two different STOPS and maybe i. Just feel bad my guess is he moved his, family out, here, you, know like yeah the transient coaching, life you know LIKE maybe it's, ptsd for me like growing up and moving a bunch of times because my father was. In PRO sports but i was feel bad, for the, FAMILIES you know I wonder if alex would be interested in having a guy that knows the Landscape of the Big Twelve.

Like, JOSH eiler yeah, i love, THAT you know.

I love THAT i love I think coach. Eiler is great his affect is a little, hard to read so meaning that sometimes he's. KIND of flat i think that's. ALSO his strengths i think he's got a. Lot of, passion you know he's a. Big man coach he would. Consider himself, that but yeah Seventeen Years at west Virginia And, under bob huggins and He Played. At KANSAS state and i just talked to his. Wife last night kids and his wife were coming in and we just talked about how.

Well and, also as men you walk into a room and you size people up, and you're, LIKE all right i could. KICK his ass i could. Kick His Ass when josh eiler walks, into a gym you know That's. A big yeah you want him, On your side you want him.

ON your side i. Agree, With, YOU yeah no i wish my. Knee so worked i'd love to. GO out there i know he.

LIKES to play i know he likes, to PLAY still but i have a filion that we would have fun playing.

Against each other i'd love.

To, see that, Hey last Thing sean that i'll sell You loose and I'm gonna play devil's advocate a. Little Bit here and i'm Not necessarily saying I'm right.

OR i'm wrong i don't.

Do combative radio this is, not FIRST take but i would be curious to get your thoughts, as an alum because for the, Last Two coaches Larry Kriskoviak, And craig smith i've had alums join the show that have complained that these two coaches Didn't necessarily embrace utah alums the way that they would hope, here's my question is that part of, The JOB description like i have a hard time believing That, if you're larry Or, if you're craig or Now, if you're alex like your job is to,

Respect for Utah basketball.

And UTAH alums and i do think part Of maybe restoring utah basketball to glory could be, embracing the community maybe A way That larry.

And craig didn't but.

Sometimes those complaints, in my opinion greek of a little, bit of, like you know you're wanting more than a guy whose job it is to focus on his team is willing.

To give you does, That, Make, sense, sean yeah yeah.

THAT makes sense i. AGREE with you i. COULDN'T agree more I know the larry.

Staff REALLY well, Like I said coash connor is, my best man, my Best Friend and DAMARLANE andy and i Got interviewed by larry to do a job that it just. Didn't pan out it. DIDN'T work out i was going to be, the strength COACH and so i Got to know larry.

A little bit i think.

YOU'RE right on i think this sum alone like to complain about maybe what they see as, Themselves being slided but most alum. Don't do that but the ones that do do speak out a. Little bit, LOUDER and yeah i do think it's a part. Of THE job and I don't think craig did a good. Job With it and i'm not trying to be, mean TO him but i don't think he ever truly Bought into what Utah

In the.

Stands, who knows now.

Let's, Not get weird let's. Not get crazy Sean To see. Drew, HANSON'S sense man i. Appreciate your time it's been fun to get to know. You all year would love to swing a golf club with you as the weather improves and, be well.

Man, travel safe, Okay thanks best thanks for having me. On your time. You Got.

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Free agency wednesday, how, You, Doing man.

Hey, i'm good yes start of the league year. An hour ago of course we knew all the news for two. Days before, that but yeah.

Here, we are, here.

We are indeed so let's just get to some of the moves that have gone down and just kind of. Your instant reaction let's talk About the decision seattle made to Move On from geno smith in The Name. Of, sam darnald aaron what's your take on the quarterback Situation and how seattle decided to go.

ABOUT this, Process i mean i'm one of the many people Who Questions what sam darnold is going to be able to do without the structure that He. Had, in Seattle sorry In Minnesota with Justin Jefferson and jordan Addison, and PAY howkinson and i don't know who's going to be Playing. Receiver in, seattle you know They Have, a smith njigba And They Signed marquez, valdez scantling today but

Couple Of Years so san francisco is now moving into the reality the pro football manifest when you've got to pay a rookie quarterback and they're clearing the deck to pay to, put you know To. Pay rock party did they? Miss a window and what do you make of what is going to Happen Next. In, san francisco yeah.

They've lost a, lot of guys but, not a, ton you know not their. Most important guys for, THE most part. I don't think i think we Should Still see san francisco bounce back with better. Health next year they were the most injured team in the league according to my adjusted games lost stat so they should bounce. Back next, year but yeah, they you know they do have to lose some guys because if you have, to pay party you have other guys. You can't pay and they've lost

Tell me your favorite move SO far before i get back to. Some, specific, questions player. Team Best Transaction, ACCORDING aaron Chats I like Joey.

Boasta the buffalo it's only. For, A year obviously bosa's, had injury issues so you question how healthy he's. Going to be But what does buffalo need more than anything else To Get to patrick mahomes, in the playoffs and, so you know all the edge rush that, they can Add They. Added michael Hoyt They. Added joey bosa all the edge rush that they can.

Add is good biggest head. Scratcher, So far Eron.

Oh why Houston Traded. AWAY laramie tunsel.

I would imagine you like what the commanders are, Doing, so.

Far yes, somewhat you know they re signed some older veterans. AND that's nice i Don't Know if peebo samuel is going to be as good as they think he's. Going To be jonathan allen is a good player and it's hard to, see HIM go although I will say i talked To someone FROM washington when I was in indianapolis, for the combine and there's a lot of that is. A personality issue It's not that, alan can't play it's that nobody likes, him so honestly he does not get

THERE with alan i did not Know that The Rams acquire DeVante adams And They. RELEASE cooper cup, i get, IT you know i understand as far as the, Dollars, and cents yeah you have to make.

These things work but we're not too Far Removed.

From cooper cup not just being one of the best wide receivers, in pro football but considered one of the best players. In pro football so give, Me your thoughts aaron On what the rams decided to do.

And what do you think Is Next.

For, cooper cup yeah the injuries have sapped A. Lot from cup he did really bad last year in ESPN's receiver tracking metrics that are based on, next GEN stats so i don't know how much he's got left. In the tank he's a great guy to take a flyer on and see whether he can get back to the greatness of, three YEARS ago but i don't know. If he can adams is. An interesting addition he is not A.

What do you think This it means as far as the continued Growth of pooka nakua local boy who played his high school and college, ball, AROUND here, WELL i.

Mean i Think everybody agrees pookinakua is one of the best receivers in the, game RIGHT now so i think he's clearly the Established number one he's the number One Guy. In los angeles there's no.

Question, About, that Well aaron as i've, TOLD you before i am a longtime suffering Fan Of The New, York football jets and you know what is?

This bottoming out is that?

WHAT it, Is I mean justin fields a, couple of years, one year rental and then you're trying to potentially draft a quarterback in a what apparently is a good quarterback class in a.

Couple of years what do You think the jets are trying?

TO do here i kind of think that that there is sort of this feeling among a lot of, People Because look justin fields does some, really awesome things and so people want to believe that there is this above average quarterback that.

Is hit it.

In there somewhere it's, been for years and he was kind of average last year in a, small sample size and he was really bad the three years before that in a much. Larger sample size and the odds that he is a good QUARTERBACK in the nfl after four years. It's really unlikely, and if anything it's really unlikely it'll Happen with the jets because what we've seen, is, the opposite right Guys leave.

The jets and then.

They PLAY well so, I you know i think it's Likely that the jets will struggle, and then yeah they'll they'll they'll go after a quarterback in the twenty, twenty six draft which is supposed.

To, be better yeah oftentimes guys Do leave the jets. AND play well i do wonder what you make of any sort of Potential Future. For zach wilson, who you Know we had zach out here AND during, The Covid year brigham young was able to cobble together A schedule and zach shined against teams, that weren't great, and you know being able to watch him up, CLOSE out here i was very skeptical that he would ever be able TO be, an nfl quarterback let alone for my. Favorite

Mean i, think he's, got you know a few more years. As a BACKUP but the covid. Year was weird that was just a. Really weird year the stat scout guys look, At You know trey lance for. Crying OUT loud so I Don't think zach wilson. Has a Future, and certainly, miami you know Two attack of iloa is. The starter there And you know mike McDaniel has had problems adapting when he.

Has to go.

To A backup so i don't know how good that's going To be if wilson.

Has to play where?

Do you think this Is not, a JETS question but i was at least encouraged they moved On. From throw ROGAN that's What I. Call aaron rodgers where Do You think aaron rodgers is playing?

Football? Next, year.

Oh god it sounds like he's going to. END up, somewhere i mean there's a lot of This. WHISPERING about pittsburgh i don't think that he's a good match with, Their Offensive. Coordinator arthur smith he likes to run a lot of under center. Play action stuff rogers doesn't, like doing that and he doesn't like turning his back, to the defense and he wants to Be IN shotgun and i don't think that's, a good marriage but it sounds like that might be the. MOST likely marriage. I don't

I just wouldn't i. Wouldn't Go There.

If russell wilson Isn't, back in pittsburgh where's he playing? Football? Next year.

Cleveland maybe there's apparently he had a Meeting WITH the, brown i mean He's Better, than kenny Pickett.

So maybe cleveland, huh goodness? Gracious all right who else?

Is out there when YOU look at i mean most of the, big name guys it's already reported that they're that they're kind.

Of locked up but who else? Is out there they're kind of waiting to. Hear the.

NEWS wide Receivers I think stefan did, for an example. Is still available i'm trying to think who else. Is Out there draymont jones is. A Defensive tackle cam. Robinson offensive tackles some people think he maynd Up. WITH the patriots a lot of the top free. AGENTS are Gone, i, Mean cup right cup, is now available, So he again cup is a real high floor, sorry low floor high feeling kind. Of a signing you could have to give a lot of money to guys going to do.

Nothing for you but he.

Could be awesome you.

Don't really know what do You think the giants are?

Going to do you think they're going to play their hand of the draft or they going to take a shot of one of.

These aging qbs.

HERE'S the problem i think that a lot of People Feel that shador sanders is not worth the. Top THREE pick, so i Mean if the giants, want a quarterback they if They, want cam ward they really have to trade up To. Get cam ward they really have to make A trade with tennessee and get into the number one spot To. TAKE cam ward i don't know if they're, gonna.

DO that and i don't know what.

THE alternative, is i mean they've been linked by Some people to. Rogers as well there just don't seem to be enough starting quarterbacks right now for all the, teams that need for all.

The love that shador Is getting.

Cam ward's getting let me ask you about another local project who played his high, school ball Here And, that's jackson darts who seemed to have a pretty good. PRE draft process i don't know if he's played his way into the area of where those, Two were at but what do you make of the pro Future Potential.

For jackson dart I'LL admit that i don't know.

That, much about dart but he's, not seen certainly nobody sees him as being. IN the Area i think ward is very clearly, seen As one and sanders has, seen as two and no other quarterback has really seen as a first round.

Pick this year Speaking, of the giants their former quarterback is Now. With The colts daniel jones Signs with the colts and the reports are he's going To Compete with anthony richardson for. The Starting Job and anthony richardson is a quarterback who we saw here in A town with florida and played the utes a lot of. Intoxicating physical attributes but, IT'S never well i. Shouldn't say never so far our first couple of years hasn't. Really clicked consistently

GET that, JOB i mean i think they're kind of Trying. To poke richardson They're hoping that richardson claims the. Job and, improves RICHARD said if i believe is still Younger than Cam Ward. And shodor sanders he came, out so young, so you know there's still the possibility that he's going. To REALLY blossom and i think that's what the cults are dreaming is. Going to happen they don't want to Have. To play Jones they want richardson to. Claim that Job

Dk metcalf You referenced earlier seattle kind of getting rid of a. BUNCH of pieces i don't know how this dealer's quarterback is, going to be but If, it is russell will they? Know each other do You think the Steelers going after metcalf is an indicator that maybe they.

Want, russ back.

No but it might be an indicator that they want to Move On, from george pickens who only has a year left on his contract and is a very similar style OF Receiver, to dk metcalf only with some issues. With HIS personality so, i you know this may be the sign that that pick they're not Going to resign pickens.

After this, year all right let's.

Look ahead, a little bit and obviously we, have the draft and we have plenty, of you know the personnel decisions that are left. To be made you reference some of The decisions the bills, decided to execute, and you Know bringing in Bosa And paying josh allen a. Bowtload of money but if you look through that at the LANDSCAPE of the, afc right now who are just some of the teams based off of who's returning you think have a chance to come out.

OF the, conference i.

Mean we're Still, talking about listen the four best quarterbacks PLAY, in the Afc and the bengals. Have defensive problems so the best teams of, the other three Right, it's The, chiefs the Ravens. And, the Bills now the ravens were the healthiest team in the. League last year they are unlikely to be as, healthy next year so they're going to decline. A little bit but they also had some weird losses with some bad luck that they probably aren't going to. Have NEXT year, SO i mean i think

What about, houston you know it was a little bit of a tough sophomore campaign after a GREAT.

Rookieyear.

For cj stroud what do you Make of the? Texans next year do you think they continue to move in? The right direction the Struggle.

For the texans is that they were so built around, defense last year and defense is less consistent and less. Predicted than offense and the offense. Really had problems the offensive line. Really Had problems tank dell probably out for. The ENTIRE season so i see the world in which another TEAM Wins the afc south as Much talent as houston has on the defensive side, OF the ball i think there is an opportunity there For someone like jacksonville

In the division moving OVER, to.

The nfc Where The defending super bowl champs exist with a roster full, of really good. Really young players they paid saque. Of the Offseason is it philly?

And everybody? Else next year who else you think can throw Punches?

With?

THE eagles no i Mean.

It wasn't philly and everybody, else last, YEAR you, Know i mean philly had a nice run, in the playoffs but. That was great but there are, PLENTY of others i mean strong look First, of all detroit Second Of, all green bay which is very young and was very. Good Last year the rams are Certainly competitive With puka and stafford and their. Young defensive. Line defensive line washington is

The Super bowl is minnesota's PLAN just now jj McCarthy or are they going to try?

To?

Bridge me oh it is okay.

In it there's Some talk about, rogers GOING there, but i mean why would. You do that if you believe in, your draft process then YOU believe. In jj McCarthy why would You bring in rogers and sit McCarthy.

For a year it.

Doesn't make, Sense ALL.

Right before i, set you loose, Appreciate, The time aaron i'll ask you about the team that most people around here tier four based. Off of, proximity not everybody but we have A Lot of denver bronco fans. In this market So YEAR Two. Bonicks afc west what does it look like Next?

Year, IN denver yeah I mean if bonnicks can continue to play the way he did in the last three quarters, of the year that. Looks very good their defense. Is very talented they have added a really couple of Nice Pieces with Drake Greenlaw, and talanoa hufanga who both come over from the. Forty NINE ers so i definitely think

That, they're Heading aaron your, twitter bio says once upon a time YOU.

Were radio dj i've got to know what that.

Was, ALL about Absolutely, Wbru In. Providence RHODE island W Kro, In. DAYTONA beach florida i did afternoons and was music directors back in nineteen ninety six and ninety seven at the height of. Alternative rock, radio.

Oh wow what an. Interesting career path where can people go?

Find Your work erin you can Find me At, ftnfantasy dot com as well as a lot of good fantasy projections for baseball, and other sports FOR football and dfs optimizers and All my Work. Ftnfantasy, dot com.

Aaron, thank you sir.

Appreciate the time have, a good, week all, right all right you have a, good week, Too all right aaron shafts busy forty eight hours in the world. Of pro football we're still a few weeks AWAY From, the nfl draft but a lot of players. On the, Move Local boys Cody Barton's, At Tennessee titans Zach Wilson's. To miami dolphin if anything else comes down while, we're on, air of course we'll bring. It to you aaron stops by

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About ONE thing my psa of THE day that i basically do every year on the station basketball knowledge will do no good when it comes to filling. Out a bracket every year ABOUT this time i get some emails and some text from aunts and uncles that have office pools, and, they say hey can? You HELP me and, I say no because it doesn't matter how much college. Basketball you watch this thing is the, ultimate wildcard event WHICH is,

IT ever since i. WAS a kid i consume it.

EVERY single year i badly missed The years When university of utah was not just, not just qualifying but. Advancing SEVERAL rounds maybe byu will HAVE a. Fun Ncaa Tournament maybe utah state.

Makes some.

Noise who knows but it does not matter how, much you know does not matter how, much you watch you will not get. This thing right so as we get, closer and closer the Tournament starts on, march the nineteenth which is one. Week from today we'll. Get you ready we'll help you. A Little bit ken palmroy is going to be In, studio on friday so he'll. Help you out if there's anyone, to listen to It. Would be Ken So? The big twelve how many tournament Teams Will the?

And texas tech those are the lots, On the Bubble Baylor.

And west virginia And here's what jerry has to Say about. The big twelve, As of now houston on course to be a number one seed for THE third. Straight ncublea tournament houston ran away with, the conference title winning by Four Games. Over texas tech they're going to look To reach the sweet sixteen for THE fifth, straight ncublea tournament but of course have higher. Aspirations Than that calvin Sampson has a national. Championship Contending Squad red raiders iowa stayed

On the BUBBLE.

Baylor, has vj edgecombe who's a top, five projected pick and If you're, a jazz fan hone in on some of these, projected you know top four. Or Five picks Ace Bailey and dylan harper will not be, in The tournament unless rutgers might. ALREADY be out i haven't, checked The score but rutgers has two of the top three prospects in the land and they're not even going to. Make The tournament so baylor had that HOME, loss to

Coming.

Up tomorrow.

Utah, by the way so porter you referenced you're hearing The potential of utah accepting a bid to play in one of. THESE postseason tournaments i don't have any. Insight at all we know it's not GONNA BE The. Nc doublea tournament it's probably not, gonna be well.

It's not GONNA be.

The nit tournament do you have any insight on what this tournament? Is Out there the utah is looking at. Potentially, Playing it sorry i'm losing. My well email let's just.

Look over some.

OF these, possibilities i mean THERE. Is, the cbi oh you know. What it Is It's The, college BASKETBALL. Crown the cbc. That's, The one yeah So It's The, college basketball crown which is a brand. New, Postseason tournament okay and ACCORDING to what i have in, front Of Me The college basketball crown is added to the. Landscape this year so YOU HAVE The, nc doublea tournament which of course is the tournament everybody wants. To play in it's the main reason college basketball is. Still a, jet you

Lot of opportunity so YOU'VE Got, the.

Ncublea tournament YOU have the nit which has always kind of, been the backup AND, then The cbi which utah played in not, too long ago And Now The, college basketball crown which is going to BE At The Mgm grand garden ARENA And The t Mobile Arena in Las vegas from March thirty FIRST april sixth i, don't know this but my mind is telling me that is Actually During.

The big TWELVE so no SEC and. No acc huh.

Fifteen games will be played, during the week with all Games airing ON fox. And Fs One college basketball. Crown will air oh, here it Is So The college basketball crown is going to air on the same Days As, The March madness Elite Eight. And, final four well good. Luck With That The college basketball crown is starting this year they're going to Compete with the elite eight in

College basketball crown, here's the question do you want?

To Do it That's that's, what i'm wondering because we were we started, the show, off you know kind of talking about how it felt like the team ran out of gas, a, little bit right and obviously they've been dealing with from, an emotional standpoint a bunch of stuff over the. LAST few, weeks i, always you, know think, that you know why would you want to go? Play another game why would you want to keep playing when

Conflicted yeah, so real quick.

Some Breaking news sham sharon he Has Reporting the utah jazz have been, fined excuse me one hundred thousand dollars for violations Of The. Player participation policy, the context Here, according to shams is the violation Occurred when the jazz failed to Make Star forward lowry marketen Available against The wizards, on march fifth as well as. Other recent games the RELEASE From the nba communications departments simply JUST says what i.

Just told you that's all you. Need to know.

You could find teams every. NIGHT for this i don't fully Understand why the jazz are the team they're. Honed in on and, by the way let Me be clear. I'm for this it's the and THE problem is nba, owners these days most of, them are billionaires and one hundred thousand dollars for them is what you find in. Your couch cushion but the only way to curtail this issue that, pro basketball has and it, IS an issue i don't care, what anyone says go ahead and send.

ME, YOUR statement nba i don't. GIVE a rip i think is to do. This more consistently and.

The plan was like way back, In The day greg popovich actually started all of This with san, antonio a long, long time ago quite frankly Started It when david robinson was set to return from a back Injury and, san, antonio said oh you, Think you're. Healthy you're not you're going, to stay home and, while You're Home watch wake forest and watch the senior that plays For Them. Named tim Duncan robinson sat spurs get the number one Pick They.

Draft tim duncan the.

Rest is, history Later, On, As duncan jnobili parker and that group, Started to age popovich incrementally held them out Here There and david stern threatens and then did find him for sitting players when they were healthy. Ready to go this is kind of the deal where everybody just,

Appealing to You If, you're.

Josh eiler do you want another game where you can show people that you are?

A good coach that.

SHOULD be considered i mean you kind of Feel bad for josh as he was the interim Head Coach in west virginia and that didn't, work out great and then he just took over a SITUATION here where i don't know what he was.

Supposed to do it.

Reminded me A Lot when mike pijakian Took Over for andy ludwig during. The Football season when utah Fired Coach lud mike, pijakian Took over and mike himself during his first media availability told all, of us Like this is andy's system and THERE'S nothing that i really can. Do with this we're Just gonna, run andy's system which, makes you wonder like why do you? Fire, the guy anyway but whatever. Done is done And as coach, eyler took over, And You know sean mooney was some. Good, insight here

The deseret.

News Breaking news the jazz have been fined one hundred thousand dollars for violating the league's.

Player Participation policy.

Pablo master when he stops, by later on we'll DO a little rsl midweek training sessions underway for the match Coming up On. Saturday at houston We'll see if pablo has any insight on reinforcements badly needed on the Way For. Real Salt lake kurt schmidt joined the, program this week indicated they're working on a number. Of different things we'll see if pablos, some insight there even though it's not,

Very, Very fascinating well i'm gonna update you a little bit on goings On. With the jazz that one hundred Thousand dollars fine shams is expanding on that it is Specifically related to lowry Markten and The jazz. Holding lowry out and what, that tells ME not that i know or have any insight you'll be able, to expand here IS that the nba must have found a inconsistency in communication in one of, the injury reports in something there that gave them the excuse To give the. Jazz the

Of this, Month, ALL right man i was doing so well after the past couple OF days where i was limping to. THE finish line i made it nearly two hours without having a little bit of. An issue here we're gonna.

Make it through we're. Gonna be okay the four o'clock hour right.

Around the corner but before we, catch a break SOME interesting insight i thought on the Process That led alex jensen here back home to be the seventeenth Head coach in utah. Men's, basketball history so According to what i've been told, last time around so five, Years Ago now mark carlin alects to Move On, from larry kriskovak a decision that wasn't super popular. In certain circles i'll kind of, leave that there but.

YOU get, IT i Mean. I like larry i.

Always liked him he was, good to me he was, a great guest and when he went out, of in Fact let's. Get larry on Reach. Out to larry let's have him on because he is a fun. Guy to interview he's, a nice guy and there was an argument to be made that he he actually was. Showing, some progress nonetheless the decision was made to Move On. From, larry KOSKOVIAK well what i was told over the past forty eight hours is. Five Years ago mark carlin did make Some Overtures to alex jensen before He Landed.

ON craig smith i have no insight on how far.

THESE talks went i have no insight on how close it was Back then for alex to, take the job or if a offer was ever formally.

EXTENDED to him i don't. KNOW those details i want to. Be.

VERY clear now a couple of things here that make this go around different than. Five years, ago number one, Five Years ago alex jensen was the Lead Assistant for quinn snyder Here in sau Lake For.

The utah jazz.

Alex was being paid very well as, a lead assistant a number one ASSISTANT. In The nba the jazz had a really good team that was right, in the mixed right in the Midst Of, The, Gobert, mitchell conley, bogdanovitch you know that team that won a lot of regular season games but never was really able to get much done.

In the postseason but it was. A good team it was a team that.

Most people, thought all right if things, go their way if they Get a steph curry, sprained Ankle Here or lebron james low, ad management there maybe this team is good enough to. Win something special. I'LL be honest i never was. THERE with them i loved That iteration. OF jazz basketball i was with the flagship Station of the jazz. DURING that run i got to, KNOW the coaches i got to know, THE front office i got to, know THE players and i was a big fan of what

JOHN and carl and i believe i.

KNOW other people disagree With this i think the team Quinn Had at their peak With goberton mitchell as the lynch Pins were better Than the teams Jerry.

Had with boozer.

And d will that's my Opinion That team, went to a western conference finals but revision His history a little bit remember dallas The number one seed in the West That year with A Peak, dirk nooviski Ran Into golden state Coached by Don nelson who drafted dirk And, don Knew How to guard dirk and golden state did An. Amazing job of shutting down navitsky They Were, able to Upset the dallas mavericks and the jazz were pretty fortunate

Conference FINALS where They.

Got, smoked but i Think quinn's, TEAM like the peak quinn team I think that Beats the peak Jerry.

Team with booze.

And D will that's my opinion but alex was, the lead assistant on that team and it wasn't just that he was. The lead assistant for that team he was a hot commodity in THE world of potentially. Getting an nba head Coaching job HE interviewed with the calvs back i think it was twenty nineteen.

TO take over their head job I.

Think.

They gave that to jb bickerstaff and so there was A lot going on then with alex, that isn't going on now right and so that. Needs TO be kept in mind but i was also told During the process five years ago alex wasn't necessarily, keen on the offer or Whatever or the, situation IS how i'll put that because i don't know, that there was an offer made but the conversation. Stalled pretty quickly, five years ago so, This time around five years later mark makes The.

Decision to move, on, from craig what's.

Different Now, well A Few things number one after quinn snyder decided that he didn't see any way forward here and didn't want to, Work for this new ownership group alex had. ONE year left on His deal i don't think will Hardy Was ever, going To keep alex jensen around but alex coached out the rest of his contract And spent one year under will Right, and Then He lands in dallas where Dennis lindsay at the Time was

As one of, His assistant coaches.

Three years later alex IS not, interviewed for a head mba job and you Have to wonder whether or not, alex DID the calculation to say if i ever, want to be a head coach this. Is, GOING to be my opportunity also i don't know what the Terms, of the deal are for Alex but my guess, IS if Craig got five years i. Bet alex gets five or six alex has, a lovely wife and young, children AND they're all from here and i Think the stability is something that alex certainly was looking at because he was

Back man put me on the. Spot again twice. In one segment you're doing.

This you've, been doing the show long ENOUGH you. Know that that's what i do i've JUST the Big dogs at the u who alex could. Have called to alleviate any CONCERNS and you're overthinking it when I tell You, WHO it is.

Coach wit okay i was told that that's probably the guy you reach out to when you and. Not like when we're talking, sports i'm talking about you know a guy who. Is working within the athletic department you know those are the people he's gonna be working on.

The hill with day to.

Day no one's. Been there longer i'm pretty sure i'm almost positive no one's been there longer than what nineteen, ninety two.

Or three.

Ninety four maybe thereabouts but it makes sense when you. Think about it through this prism alex doesn't know What. It's like to work for mark alex doesn't know What It's. Like to work for taylor randall alex doesn't know what it's like to be Part Of the new iteration of utah athletics BECAUSE last time he was. Here I was in the nineties so i just thought that was kind

Away a decision that was made this is. Something we Definitely.

Want to do alex and natalie i'm sure they, Waited A bunch of different options but i thought it was interesting being told that The phone call that really put Alex over the Line Was, to kyle was to kyle winningham and they spent a number of number of hours on the phone together talking, about a bunch Of different things, according to what i've been told And that was enough to convince alex that he did want to Come. Back home, to coach the. Utes All right there you go utah.

All she does.

Is stack Trophies No Big deal two Time utah Sports Writer Of The, Year From the desert Red news. Sarah, Todd On. A wednesday afternoon. Sarah happy wednesday, How, are you i'm doing?

GREAT svince, How are you doing i mean i'm Doing Better than. The, wall, of bryan smith today yes.

Indeed why don't, We.

Start With The breaking news sarah the utah jazz have. Been fined one hundred thousand dollars it looks Like. It's for sitting lowry against washington? Do, YOU have any insight here.

Yeah i mean what's interesting is that the press release that comes out today it says that they Violated the player Participation policy on march fifth against washington quote, as well as, other recent. Games which is like not surprising i've been wondering, over the last couple of weeks like one of when one of these signs was Going, to, COME down, for the jazz because i mean They're Resting twenty three year, old walker kessler every other game and

THE end i concur with that i will follow up to ask if you haven't knowledge as to how exactly they land on when, They're, GOING to implement these fines sarah, i watch pro basketball every night and, Every night teams Are sitting players like why?

The, jazz and why right now.

YEAH it's really really interesting. BECAUSE i don't know exactly when i mean a lot of it Has to do with like all star star level players and whether or not. They're resting during, nationally Televised games that being, said THE jazz don't. HAVE those so i don't know. I don't know when they decide, it would be, really really easy as you've mentioned to go through and look at teams

YOU know i'm Chuckling here because i have my twitter feed pulled Up and you can see the Shams tweet breaking the news the JAZZ, have been fined a hundred k and then, a Couple of tweets after that the jazz tweet, Out After updated, Injury Report available, Jordan Clarkson. Available lowry Marketing available jaden? Springer are the jazz trolling us or is this? Directly In response to the? Fine, now marketing is playing tonight.

Oh this is in their defense this is about the time that the injury report would. Come OUT tonight before the game so i, don't think that that's direct trolling but there might, there is some HUMOR to it at least BECAUSE i saw the same, thing I got the injury report and i thought the. Timing of, This, Is pretty incredible.

All right sarah before we get back To The, CURRENT state of the utah jazz i need to, pick, your brain a little bit, because if memory serves me correctly you were part of, The. Traveling, party five years, ago jazz okase when you know The whole thing, went down and rudy test positive they cancel the game and then we Get the alert that they can't so the season you, were part?

OF that?

TRAVELING party weren't, you i, Was. I was there all right sah so five, years later to the? Day yesterday what are your memories what? DO you remember about that night i think our listeners would. Be, INTERESTED to hear your perspective.

Yeah i was talking about this yesterday with my fiance and just it's a really it's strange the things that stand out the most to me now compared. TO when it was all happening i think that when it was happening, and in the thick of it, it was, very LIKE work based jazz based and i was just THINKING about

Was happening, man that is wild so again my memory Is a little.

Bit foggy Because i'm getting old but the jazz, didn't THEY fly you, guys home, if i remember correctly you know as you guys, were kind of figuring things out didn't it didn't they find a?

Way, To GET you guys, home yeah, because i mean so you know we tested with the rest of the jazz staff and traveling party, in the locker room that night and we were told that we would have to quarantine for up to two weeks after our last, interaction with someone who tested positive which the next morning we find out the fourteen days started that night because Even though we hadn't been around, Rudy for a. Couple of days donovan tested positive and, we're all sitting there that night,

With the team through it all i'm sure they Were happy to allow, you AND tony to fly home but i guarantee there was a healthy debate about whether Or not they wanted. TO let andy on the plane.

I think that there was a healthy debate to. Not let anyone. On the plane at. THAT point, everyone was so confused i mean they were having trouble getting a chartered flight because pilots and, flight, attendants were just being like no we don't want to fly these people if they're like, they're, because they're being told like well all of these people. That will be, on the flight all tested negative but the incubation period for the virus, could

Man that is that Is wow what was there any.

Was, there any instant or you know immediate indicator that this situation was going to throw a big time Monkey wrench In. The, RELATIONSHIP between gobert, AND mitchell.

No i don't think. I mean NOT like that night i mean i know that there. Were there were tweets that night I'm pretty sure from like, from, woes That were indicating that uh that rudy had been a little Flippant about the. Situation and that donovan wasn't happy, but h, that was also like you know those tweets also felt like they, were coming from one sided sources and so

All right, there's no way of knowing this but kind Of a fun, hypothetical exercise because i've, ALWAYS said and we'll always SAY covid forever changed that, team covid forever changed that group and there's AN argument to be made that covid directly ended it Quite frankly. Based off of the freid relationships And It was the summer of, george Floyd and emotions were high and donovan Started kind of

Danny tear it all down.

Pretty quickly, A little bit prematurely who knows, but we are where we are so, as somebody who covered that team a team that was winning in a regular season setting in a way that we hadn't, seen here in a long time and one of the best Regular Season teams in the entire western conference. OVER the course of five years i think they won more regular season games than any team, over THE course, of five years if

Group, What, do you think happened sarah.

YEAH it's interesting to know because i think also a little, piece that we have, to consider which like NUMBER one like we, can't, put covid in a vacuum right like it happened concurrently. With a bunch of other stuff, but we also HAVE to consider like how did COVID change the landscape of the nba for the next year and A? Half, As, well as the. Jazz RIGHT like we, don't know if Covid doesn't happen maybe do the jazz are they able

Over.

For More than a year yeah even locke During, the Final Game, against The MAVs even david locke even david locke. That This feels like, a funeral if locke is, saying it feels like a.

Funeral everybody, Died two years ago you know like when when the people that are employed by the team to propagate the message they pay him, to propagate cannot do it, anymore that has TO say.

Something, You know what i mean yeah and that's how it felt, it felt.

Just SO anti climactic like It was, i think after the clippers series like everybody knew, That it wasn't going to work but, that's the moment when everybody thought maybe there's just a little, bit meat left on the. Bone like let's, try it again please feel like. Let's do it one more time and so that's why It felt, so bad after the maverick series because everybody knew a year before, That, it was over all.

Right sarah moving, over to the here and, now you wrote a really good Yet Really depressing piece About The utah jazz stated the utah. Jazz rebuild a timeline for contention so let's just start from? The thirty one thousand foot view? What motivated you to write it. Then UNPACK it a little bit then. I, HAVE some specific.

Stask, you.

Yeah, i was just thinking you know like the, thirty thousand foot view is like what's. My job as a beat writer it's my job to be the eyes ears and the voice for the fans right in the places that they, Can't have Eyes ears, and voice AND so i'm thinking what do i Need to tell them about what i'm seeing. Before we head into the draft the lottery even and the off season, or the beginning of

And ultimately you know as much as it is painful to hear the dirty little secret is it's. Probably the right course of? Action?

Do?

You AGREE with that right YEAH and i think there and I think, there's people, within the, jazz organization you know decision makers people on different sides, of different staff that number one they think we got to be bad next year because we have. This pick that's top eight protected we. Don't, want it going, to Okay See and you know, the cooper flag draft is Fine and Like If we get cooper or dylan harper or whatever it may be. In this draft will be great but the

So let's have a little fun Let's operate off hypothetical that the jazz luck into One This. Year and they get cooper flag how does that color. THEIR perspective on approaching next season.

I think the immediate aftermass of getting the number one pick in the draft lottery is, serving the landscape and, seeing like are there any huge huge, moves TO be made this summer because i think that's the only thing that Could happen that could stop. The jazz, from tanking next Season, it's like If, they get Cooper. They, have Lowry They have walker okay is devin Booker going to

So What happens best guess if lady Luck does not shine on the jazz and let's say they even fall out of the top five or six, and end, up With A player You, know like jeremiah fears from oklahoma they don't get one of, the top five or six, players like, worst case scenario happens they lose but they fall out of this top three or four area, where apparently generational pieces are available and they march into, next season, with An Unknown rookie you. Know a trey johnson or,

I mean i think that that just makes it even more important that they get one of the, top three picks again next season right like. That's already the goal right now and, if the worst case, scenario happens then they don't get frankly a top two pick out of this out, OF the twenty twenty five draft i think it makes it all the more important to get a top two pick, in the, twenty twenty six draft and.

Man that.

Would be that would, BE bad but at that point i think you're you're looking at all scenarios because you have to. Get back something really really good since you didn't get a top, five pick in twenty twenty five that might even make a lowery trade more probable, because they'd be looking at like we really have to have something that's going to. Last us the next, ten years and so it's yeah there's a lot of plates that are spinning. THAT and lottery Night coming up i think

Before i say you loose what sort of sense, are you getting, from this community. From this, market from jazz fans you know we HAVE data, as far as local TV ratings and the. Jazz local tv ratings have tanked they're the fourth lowest from the bottom as far as the gap. From one YEAR to the next so the tv. Audience isn't what it, once was From my vantage point, every time i'm at. A game the crowd is good but what sort of sense Are you getting from jazz

Yeah the sense that i'm getting is that the tank. FATIGUE is starting to set in i think that it probably split down The, MIDDLE on fans saying that okay i can, do this for one more year and, THEN there's fans that are like i. Can't do this, one more year like you Said In, the building at the delta center. THE crowd is really really IMPRESSIVE i mean it's something that i don't see around, the league for other rebuilding teams like fans Don't show up the way,

We'll see, Right yes, we, Will all right so well well i'm glad that everything worked out and you stayed alive and your mother stayed. Alive and all that fun stuff so while that it's been, five years but quite an experience you'll be able to tell The grandkids about.

When, you, and colin get busy okay uh we.

Won't be happening never having children absolutely else.

It'll be a.

Great, story for someone else's. Grandchildren, SARAH thanks for, THE time okay i think friends i.

Got awkward there at. The end i'm not gonna, lie i'm just, SAYING someone's kids. She, getting married. I, don't, know yeah not judging.

YEAH uh you haven't. Kids anymore.

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Wednesday Buddy?

How.

Are we, doing happy wednesday spence, you're right the vibes are great and it starts. With, THAT tribe called quest. Intro, man i love that stuff.

Well the vibes are. Great when you.

Join THE show so there's that, but, i got to ask you man how are. The vibes in that locker room it's not been.

The, start you.

Were hoping FOR no definitely not, and again, i think season overseason you know it's, really interesting and and you know it just takes a couple of pieces to kind of throw things. Out of Kilter a little bit but what i'll tell you is we have an Amazing group of guys that again, i've been here now five years and, this group is the most committed the, most professional and really you know willing to be accountable and learn and.

Your job description is, not going out to sign players. Sin SCOUT players and acquired, Talent, but i will ask you pablo THERE is a significant portion of rsl fans right now that feel a little bit frustrated that all of the money that was brought into the club after a, Number of, different transactions were uh we're executed has not been, reinvested in talent for the, club namely in the. Attacking third namely at number nine do?

You do you share that frustration are you in a spot of frustration as well waiting for, REINFORCEMENTS on the way.

You know i WAS just talking to porter before i got on AND and one thing that that i, can't be, is is looking for you know reasons, To Absolve myself as A coach right i'm in THIS i'm in this, profession BECAUSE i love helping players and i love helping them get better and think about the game in life a lot different than, they did before they got HERE and AND and so when, i when, I look, at it you know, I think IF it was egregious i

Since you Brought it, up i, Wonder because i've Asked excuse Me i've talked to jason AND kurt about this Deal. With i Thought It Was Elias APPARENTLY it's ilias ilias manuel manuel i. Guess it's, How to say it, and look bob's from my perspective it's always interesting because our pro basketball team here in the market for years and years and YEARS has had major issues with nba players

Did, that have, ON your, group yeah so again, i mean this was eleventh hour so we're we're assuming that he's. In for, First day OF preseason you know kurt and i sat. With him on a zoom call he was super engaged and asking unbelievable questions about the game model and what the asks are, on both sides, Of, THE ball and he says oh i, LOVE the WAY you guys play.

I love i.

Love this idea this is wonderful, and then like, a, WEEK later it was Like Yeah, i can't. Come to salt lake you know and so you know a lot of times there's there's especially, player people That move You Know from say brazil, to new york in his case and, they, might have family, members there right and they have they have a. Setting community in a certain place and so it wasn't so much that He Didn't, want to come to salt lake is he, didn't, Want to leave me

Tell me your understanding of. Where we're at IN that process kurt Hopped. ON i think, it, WAS monday i don't know man i don't remember. What Ate for breakfast this morning but kurt hopped on, this week and. He was, honest he was forthcoming. He Said it's in the works and, i've been doing this long enough been around that club long enough to know that a transaction oftentimes can be, derailed by the. SILLIEST of paperwork misaps or whatever i,

The way, so again I think you know we. Have we've identified three different players and here's, a difficult thing with these, transactions as you rightly pointed, out if it's an international, player whenever that signing is done you can expect three to four weeks before you can actually step on. The field because of these issues and that's. That that's not good for us although that's probably the those players.

Give up and.

Getting the player that you want so that that's the. That's the tough part of this and so there's no real, timeline in this on this spense, AND that's why from. My, role i just focused on okay, So if we don't have that so if we're not scoring a, lot of

At the risk of, asking the ultimate dumb guy question do you have a preference of international or domestic when it comes to the options or is it, just, Like, give me the.

Best dude yeah, that's it's sense i'm you know beggars, can't, Be choosers at this point right we just want to get a guy or two in the, building that can. Really you know and and, get so to answer your question it's it's either it's it's whoever we can, get, and who fits the team uh to give, us the best chance to win because, at the end of the day that's that's, that's what we want to.

Do and that's that's the aim, so every year.

With THIS stuff WHEN, IT comes to mls and rsl i always remind people that the hot start will not continue and. The slow start will, not continue this. Is a slog it's. A marathon it ebbs and flows but four goals in Five GAMES If You, include the conky, caf champions cup and you know ultimately an expansion team rolls into town and.

Kind of gives it to you You Go. ON the, road to san jose.

I mean you, Know, the deal at what point pablo does a slow start in your mind become problematic and you.

Start, TO get a little.

Concerned yeah i just think then when you've. Pulled out all the, different stuffs so in other words, where as from a coaching perspective where we've looked under every nook and cranny, and haven't acted upon the information that's been presented in other, words like we have you know so we've, been, focusing on the attacking side right and so for the first five games and saying. We got to get any, spots so we are doing that but we're just not

Games before, i ask you this next question you, just Reference your two Young Strikers. Which i'm assuming is arian forrester any other nine options on the roster? You, feel comfortable playing right.

Now no we don't.

Know that we don't. Have any those are. The two what a perfect.

Answer THAT was the perfect answer so i want to hone in on those two for a moment because that's what. We have in front of Us let. Me ask you about ari first is he is he a little bit more? Nuanced in just a nine like is he? A?

Guy you can. Play elsewhere yeah.

Absolutely he is and and that's another wrinkle that we're looking to add to it because he can play out why and. He poses a real, speed threat he's got great size, but he's, got really soft. Feet nimble feet really good technique and so the reason why we can't play him in another position at the moment is because we then we only, do left with one nine right, and so as a young pairing we feel really good with one going, sixty the other one, going thirty, and

Right, let's MOVE over, to forrester now who i mean there are there are moments with him, like he's he's got, good size he's got good athleticism and that just always, stands out to me because oftentimes. Don't take THIS the wrong way you're watching Mls soccer and your striker is. Jason christ who's five to four It's like he's. Not A great i'm just kidding but forrester has an athletic

So i, would say with forrester he's got, like you're right to point out his physicality is is top like that kind of body could play. In any league in the world and what he is is he's he's still learning, the game from, a forwards position in other words what side of the defender to be on, The balls on said side right like little nuanced movements to put him in better positions to be. Able to protect the ball better, he's working on his first touch which is. A little

LEAGUE so some interesting stuff there i want to FOLLOW the couple of things because i understand the club's ethos of betting on young talents and developing said talent and.

THEN moving talent, on FOR premium i. Hate, IT but i. Get it okay i get it i've, Been, Drug along.

FOR the ride.

Pablo i'm on i get it is, that challenging as the coach though because, outside of, Outside, of YOUR keeper you're young pablo and i understand. That that's what the club, does but from a manager's perspective that's got, to be, A little frustrating.

Though, you know i think the biggest the toughest frustration for me has nothing to do with their ability to execute as much as it is understanding, the game from, a collective standpoint, in other words like game management moment moments like why are you moving where you're moving to and really understanding what, the game needs.

In this moment.

And those things YOU can't, teach those things are i, mean we teach it through video. But you have to feel it and the real way to feel it is to get pulled because you're not doing, it when you're a YOUNG player and then going, When i get my next opportunity. I'm going to do it, right and unfortunately at this moment.

We just don't.

Have that option to do that, so we're learning on the fly. And so, IT'S it's really tough and again i think our leadership, group we meet once a week we talk about those the ways that those, players with Experience in this, league or like rafa for example, who's been all over the world can really lean on, these guys in, moments you know whether it's halftime whether it's pulling them a. Side after an exercise and training and

That's what.

We're AIMING to do all, RIGHT before i set you loose i Do, want to ask you ABOUT yogo who is the only dp on the roster, as of, now and last year you know he, lands during the summer Transfer window and so and and jason Made A Really, good analogy About javier javier morales who when Javier landed here the first few jason on the show a couple of weeks ago, said HE thought about cutting Him which i didn't know, because javier didn't settle in Initially and

Best Player we've ever had here so i'm.

Not ready to, anoint OR dismiss it's still early but i think it's safe to say that there are a lot of people THAT. Are expecting more from a dp so tell me what you're seeing and what you hope to. See, as he continues to.

Acclimate yeah that's, A great question and.

You know i think, when he came in last year. It was it was really difficult we were. Going through a topsy turvy time we had a, lot of, issues off the field you know and there's and then that that, kind of permeated onto the field and so it was never going to. Be an easy transition For him the one thing that i've noticed with him this year is his commitment TO the team and and what i mean by that is like one of the first, guys, In that training EVERY day, right and from a dp perspective

From from achieving that last thing it's Always, a tough road trip to houston But at least it's. Not freaking july where it's impossible, so what, Do, you just simple simple question pablo what Do?

You, open to, see on saturday yeah just.

Again a, market IMPROVEMENT defensively for the, group because, i think that's where you know if you're if you're not gonna, you score a lot of goals. You've got to be solid defensively, and WE'RE going on the road and i believe that if we're solid defensively and we're operating. FROM a zero goals against perspective i think. It will, free up, a group and so you know even though, The results

Buddy well i appreciate the, time This is a long year so i'm. Sure you're gonna turn it around. Always, pulling, For, you save travels.

Okay Thanks Bud APPRECIATE it to boblo.

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Mountains. Nothing wrong with march forecast man, you never know in this state so, Almost to the warm weather consistently so Appreciate your. Ears, on A busy wednesday show, locally the jazz Are. In Action Taken on the grizzlies utah hockey Club. Is in action taking On Anaheim. That is here in Salt Lake. It is at, the delta center by the way when did this whole dumb conversation Start About whether or Not It's. Delta CENTER or the delta.

Center.

I'M i clearly missed something.

Ah i think it's always kind of been. Like A somewhat of a topic, but i will say that recently as recent, of as the change IN ownership there has been a i will say, a kind push from the organization from folks in the pr from folks who are clearly, receiving direction from folks above them to Influence Us, to CALL it, the delta center, which i understand that's the name that's. What they want to go with, but when you're talking in sentences, sometimes you can't speak that way so.

It makes, it, kind of tough wait wait wait so They Want. Us, to Say The, Delta center No just.

Delta centering that's what i'm saying sometimes you need the the, in order to complete a.

Sentence you, pick a different, hill.

Just yeah just the no the it's. The it's it's.

It's the dopes how about this Get us A Jazz guest. And i'll say? Delta center there, how About That, just a thought the Utah Jazz the it is the Utah Jazz, and it is the Delta Center Which is where the utah hockey club. Will be playing. The game tonight there you go?

SO is.

IT a game match i believe i believe.

In hockey it is. A game soccer is a match i think they. Call it just a.

Hockey game soccer is. A, Match Hockey Is a game anyway utah hockey club, in need of points in regulation can't go to overtime if, they Want to catch the wildcard which i'm not sure.

Is going, to be a.

Possibility so Busy busy show Today are the cowboys or the jets?

Going?

TO be watchable next. Year, No, i Didn't think so.

No, well the cowboys will be watchable but they'll be like kind of. How they have been last decade. They'll be like h five. Ish, maybe it'll Be.

Real fun Well at.

Least, i'm Not a jets Fan Yes the Jets, officially waived aaron rodgers throw rogan who is a free agent for.

The first time in his career where? Is that dude gonna end up and what? Does that look like Next.

Year it sounds Like Maybe. Pittsburgh I'D rather have russell wilson and I Don't really want to, have Russell wilson right now either but I'd Rather. Go that direction than, AARON rodgers i'll tell You what. I May Be a jets fan if, Tyrod taylor's your Starter Next.

YEAR i'd, Rather Have tyrod Taylor I mean aaron rodgers or.

Russell wilson isn't Even an argument i'd rather Have Russell brand playing quarterback. Than, aaron rodgers at this point man. Another dude who's, LOST his mind by.

The Way I do believe that. THE aaron rodgers ship is sailed I told you, that before the. Jets signed him as she did that. Was what two plus years ago. Apparently we're still having that combo?

Would, you do a darkness retreat yeah. You, do, it, ALL the time no no No i mean. Like the WAY aaron did it like IF i decided to pay thirty K to send you up to, Oregon for your pay five days. I'm all, you would do. That oh yeah like five days all they do is keep you alive with food and you're in like. A little hut FOR five days.

You're telling me i can stay in. A, hut with. Probably sound dampening no there's. Nothing, It's darkness with no sound right so. You're, not hearing, much of, anything no you're, not you know talking to folks you're, not sending emails back and forth, You're not paying attention to games you're, not doing anything for five, days just chilling. In the dark, maybe some herbs i'm all in.

We're gonna we're gonna raise some, funds TO send you up there because i don't think you're. Making it, longer, THAN a day oh really. Yeah i think you're tapping out.

Wow in a little dark.

Room, in a little dark room well all. We're doing is, keeping YOU ALIVE you, got Nothing.

If i i mean if, I'M taking IT as a challenge. I think I could do it i, think. I, could do, it fairly fairly well but yeah. SEND it in a dark room. I, do that. All the time.

Okay fair enough, i'm Not judging i'm Not judging and i'm ambadatt but i'm not. Trying TO do, a darkness retreat like i said save the money and go in your. Room and, turn the, lights off but anyway all.

Right.

Let's get out of? Here porter what comes our way we are, Out and about? On remote Tomorrow what. Comes there Wearing a thursday show.

On, A Thursday edition. Of the, program tony jones joins the SHOW. Talks of jazz talking some nba will flip over to the Youtes Hoop, side with our friend josh grant who was Very Excited. For the potential of alex jensen we'll Get Him. For the reality, Of Alex, jensen on the hill neil Smith We'll Discuss the aforementioned the Utah Hockey club. Playing at the delta center tonight dave. McManaman will stop by as well. Lebron return to La for treatment not with, the lakers as of right now

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