TUE POD @SpenceChecketts on CFB kickoff, Utes at Fall Camp, RSL vs NY, NFL preseason + more

Scorching hot day for August.

It's about ninety four degrees in sunny here in the valley here in Salt Lake City, Utah. Happy Tuesday to you, and as it is every single day, it's good to have you along for the Riots. Matt's check. It's behind the mic. We are out and about today. Tell you where we're at, right out of the gates our old friends at the dish professionals. However, it is a new location for eighty six West forty eight hundred south. So O, we're a little southwest today on the program. And football

Or both of them. And we're actually approaching this kind.

Of tipping point in sports consumption where it's just better to have cable, believe it or not. So there are all these bundles, all these different offers. You probably get the same price hike emails that I do.

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I switched to Dish a few years back, and if you're a sports fan, there's simply no other option. So we've got a bunch of great offers for you. My guy Ryan is here. It is a new address though it's a new spot. If you've been listening to the show for a long time. First of all, thank you, hello, how are you. Second of all, you're used to our spot that's a little bit east of here, but we've moved west to four eighty six West forty eight hundred south, pretty close.

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On a very busy Tuesday, edition of the show.

Week three of football camp for the University of Utah, rolling along up on the Hill of course BYU down South. Week three for Klannie and his staff Braco Menahal looking to break in eighty new players up in Logan for.

The Utah State Aggie.

So we've got some college football to get you on the program today. Alabama has named their starting quarterback and when you look at the AP poll that was released on Monday, seven of the top ten teams will be breaking in new quarterbacks.

So it's kind of an interesting dynamic.

It's the most first place votes in the AP top top twenty five spread out amongst the most teams since twenty sixteen, six teams.

Receiving first place votes.

And you could make a case for Notre Dame, you could make a case for Alabama.

Texas is your number one team.

And we'll kind of dig into some of the college football storylines as we are high speed ahead to week zero, high speed ahead to actually college football games, to analyze and break down and of course give you the latest on both the Utes and the Cougars, and with an eye on Utah State as well. As we are inching closer and closer to opening day in college football. Preseason Week two in the NFL, we'll get rolling coming up

So preseason NFL football.

Week two rolling along this weekend, and it'll end with some Monday Night football, which is the Bengals and the Commanders at Northwest Stadium in Landover, Maryland. So a lot of football on the show. Good guests today for you guys. Rare Al Salt Lake. Coming off a rough loss over the weekend in New York. They're back in action this weekend on the road in Charlotte, we'll see if they can bounce back. Diego Luna will miss that game as a result of just a horrible, horrible call to give

We have some schedule releases.

We know what Opening Night is going to look like, we know what Christmas Day is going to look like. We don't really know what the Utah Jazz will look like outside of playing a lot of very young players and of course the midivan Usuf Nurkic some vets.

On the roster. But kind of a quiet time right now.

For the off season in pro basketball, so a lot to do on the show. Pennett races in Major League Baseball as summer's kind of rolling along here, but a lot of college football on the program. Live with our Friends at the Dish Professionals, which again is for eighty six West forty eight hundred South. It is a new location. If you've come on out to visit us at the old location. This is a new spot. Best thing to do is look for that ESPN seven hundred van out front.

Old school cable television. So a lot to do on the show.

Our first guest on a Tuesday afternoon will be none other than Richard Smith, forty years with Utah Jazz front office, consistent guest of hours on the program. So we'll bring Smidty in and talk about kind of preparations, what the Jazz are going through right now in order to prepare properly for the upcoming season.

Of course, a lot of football right out top of mind.

We will blink at September, we'll be here at NBA training camp, will be here and the Jazz will start playing games. So we'll bring in Smitty today the head coach of Rael saw Lake Pablo mash Junny as our guest. We've got some sound from UTAP practice we've got to bring around to you if you want to hear from players and coaches. I'll remind you if you're looking for that right out the gates, you can go to ESPN seven.

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We always have a bunch of great sound up there, certainly this time of year if you're looking for that, So bring some of that back around. Coming up at three point thirty after Pablo mash Too Money joins us to talk a little RSL. One of our favorites from ESPN, Ben Solac, will stop by to talk some NFL football. Maybe we'll do some fantasy football. I'm sure you're getting ready for some drafts. Look back on week.

One of the preseason and pro football.

Look you had to Week two, and high speed ahead to opening day not too far away at all.

Will Jackson Dark see the field this year if the New York Giants.

We'll get into some of the local storylines, the latest with Jordan Loves injury, Zach Wilson QB two in Miami, so always fun to catch up with Ben Solac prior to the start of the NFL season, and then an old friend of the show to talk more college football, Max Brown, our buddy from the old Pac twelve network, still calling games I believe for the CW. Former quarterback at USC and Pitt and really bright college football analysts

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It's still eight oh one, four to two four dish in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah's where we find Porter Larson back at our Broadway Media Studios.

Happy Tuesday, young man. How are you back? Atches Spence?

Happy Tuesday?

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All right, we are eighteen days away from kickoff for the University of Utah as they'll be at the Rose Bull taking.

On UCLA Brigham Young.

Their opening game will be Portland State at Level Edwards Stadium and Utah State welcomes in Utah. So week three of camp Kyle up on the hill for the University of Utah, and I'll continue to say that no news is good news. This appears to be a very drama free Utah training camp without some of the anxiety and consternation over the past couple of years just because of the unknown nature of the health of a.

Lot of the roster, quite frankly quarterback.

But all appears to be quiet all along the Western front, as they say, And if you're a Utah fan, that is a good, good piece of news for you. BYU looks like they're close to naming a starting quarterback and could it be the true freshman Bear Bachmeyer who played his spring ball at Stamford before transferring to BYU to play for Colonie Satake and Aaron Roderick. As the story goes, Aaron Rodrick badly wanted Bear Bachmeyer out of high school, tried.

To recruit him to Provo.

Didn't work out initially, but bar Bachmeyer lands in Provo and as a result of the situation with Jake Retzlav who's now too lane, looks like Bear could be in line to be QB one. So Aaron Rodger co address in the media today after practice and said that the bulk of the ones, the snaps with the ones went to Bear and then McKay Hillstead was able to receive a few reps with the one that looks like the tracing board.

Gay kid might be the odd man out.

Here, but it's interesting to consider the way people have kind of framed the conversation surrounding Utah. With Devin dan Pier under center, it appears to be more or less a consensus. I was listening to Bruce Feldman Stewart Mandel earlier today on their Good College Football podcast two good friends of the show, and I truly have not heard very many people offer a lot of skepticism about what Devin's going to be able to do under center for

Seems to be skeptical. I just have a.

Hard time anointing anybody when I haven't seen them do what they're about to do before, which makes the BYU quarterback situation interesting as well by all accounts. And Aaron Roderick a number of weeks ago after the Jake Retz laugh news kind of became official. I'm not going to say showed his hand, but he did a little bit with some of the platitudes and praises he was offering for this young quarterback bear Backmeyer. As far as his intelligence,

Beck to Salt Lake City.

I'm sure there was some sort of semblance of a promise like, no, this is going to be your job.

If you come play for us, you have the job.

So the difference between the two dynamics at this point is that Utah decided long ago that Devon was going to be the guy, where BYU appears to be finally deciding now, just two and a half weeks away from kickoff.

Because this is the time we talked to Stevenson.

Sylvester about this yesterday, game specific planning starts now now it's not as urgent for BYU. I mean, look, I do think Utah about a touchdown and favorite against UCLA, should go to the Rose Bowl and come away with a win. That really shouldn't even feel uncomfortable at least that's the hope, But it is opening day, you never know what it's going to look like.

So the game planning prep for.

Utah for UCLA at the Rose Bowl, I would just would imagine is a little bit more involved than what BYU has to dig in as far as tape on Portland State.

And if you're a BYU fan, I feel.

Like that soft landing spot is exactly what you want and exactly what you need if you're going to be breaking in a true freshman quarterback a year after you went seven and two in conference one, eleven games overall and was one of not just the biggest surprises in the Big Twelve, one of the biggest surprises in all of college football as a result of a lot of good fortune, as a result of very stout defense, some opportunistic play from Jake Ratz left under center, a stout running game.

They have LJ. Martin back Chase rob which is back in that wide receiver room.

But you don't want to launch in a conference play if you're breaking in a true freshman when you don't really know what sort.

Of hands you've been dealt. And I do think.

Ucla at the Rose Bowl is a good, solid opening test for Utah football and a good, solid opening test for Devin Danpier on the road in one of college football's most hallowed grounds. Utah State will welcome in UTEP That's going to be their first game in Logan, coming up on the thirtieth. So all three of the teams are about eighteen days away from kick as we sit here today, Bronco Menahal is breaking in literally eighty new players, and Utah State's second game is at Texas A and

The Pac twelve. So Utah State, out of the.

Three in state schools, essentially the only school that knows exactly what they have under center. But the interesting thing about this year's college football landscape and this is now the new reality because look, here's the deal. Even without the transfer portal, even without the roster turnover like five, six.

Seven years ago.

You talk to anybody who covers this sport, it is, by far, this is my opinion, the hardest, hardest sport to predict. The landscape of conferences, the landscape of the national rankings, what's that going to look like? Who can really win a national championship? Who are really the elite teams in college football? And seven of the top ten

Drew Aller answered a lot of questions last year, and that in.

No small part is why Penn State is favored to win the Big Ten over Ohio State. Ohio State breaking in a new quarterback, the Gunner Stockton kid from Georgia had moments when he stepped in, you know, as it pertains the way he can play the position, but this will be his first time playing this at you as a starter full time. Seven of the top ten teams in college football are breaking in new quarterbacks. And again, even without the dynamic of the transfer portal and roster changeover,

The fall is going to be here.

Momentarily, I always say observation, not conclusion, And yes, that includes the University of Utah, because I simply have never seen Devin Dampier play quarterback before at this level. We have tape on Devin playing in New Mexico, we have tape on Devin playing in the Mountain West Conference, and I can continue to be very impressed with all of the praise that's being heaped upon him. But until I can actually see you with my own two eyes, I can't sit here and tell you.

Exactly what I think we're going to see.

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As often say, it's good to be Richard Smith, but well deserved after forty years with Utah Jazz Front office.

Smitty, you know, we.

Already talked about the George Niang situation when you were on last time, and I know it doesn't mean much of anything at all. It's restocking the second round pick cupboard or adding to the draft capitol covered copboard.

George Yang the minivan, of course.

Is a player that you know, and he will be back here in saw Lake City as kind of a veteran presence in that locker room. So it really is kind of the only piece of topical jazz news as of now. So let's reset it with your knowledge of George. You were with the team when you guys drafted him, and you watched him evolve into a really nice role player for that group with Donovan and Rudy and Quinn and Dennis and everything. So what sort of effect, if anything,

Well, I think it's one of those moves Spence that that doesn't really affect.

Them negatively in any way.

It can only be a positive.

You know.

One of the things, of course, that you just mentioned.

Was the two draft picks that they can put up in the in the cupboard and then have that there for for any kind of futures going forward. And uh. And then the other side is bringing George in, who's a good worker. The coaches know him the front off his noses. They know he's going to be a good guy in the locker room and with the teammates. Firstly, I don't know how much you know. He's got to be on a good team where where they can get

With the group they have.

I'm not sure that there's gonna be much there at all, but anything they get from him I think will be a bonus, just in terms of the work ethic and the culture he'll bring to the group on the practice floor and in the locker room, and and then of course again the use of the second round picks, which we won't know for quite a while what they're going to do with those, and how those playing for the whole mix.

So it's kind.

Of one of those slow play moves, you know, by a team that's trying to get their feet under them and trying to start moving in the possibly the right direction. And this is not a big move, but it might be a smaller move it maybe help them start that process.

So where we're at right now on the calendar, as we sit here mid August ish, we're still a number of weeks away from training camp. Media Day for most teams will be September twenty ninth or thirtieth. Training camp will start after that, preseason early October Opening night is the twenty second. There have been some reports of some players in town working out. There have been some social media posts of players who have elected to work out elsewhere.

What's going on with the Jazz right now?

Yeah, Well, they've had a prog individual program for every

Sure they're checking the boxes and they're.

Getting the individual things they each need done. So when they get to training camp, everybody hands in so called a completed work well, because yeah, I did all the stuff you wanted me to do, and here I am and ready to go. You know, that's usually not met with a one hundred rating in terms of players having done all that stuff. But now it's so detail oriented.

We have periods.

They've got to fit in a new new stuff that each individual play, right, you're trying to work on and how to gauge that and and uh track that, and so everybody's got something they're working on, the coaches are monitoring it, and then once they get to usually it's typically uh after labor day, players start coming in and mass and start working with the coaches UH in the in the UH in the type of facility, so they can then make sure they're on the same page before

Y and monitor that to make sure that on the same page by the time they get UH.

They get to that first day of official training cap all right.

Smitty Solid Tribune Gordon Monson wrote a piece based off of a survey that was done by the Action Sports Network.

UH.

The Action Sports Network did an NBA fans survey trying to see where fans are at on pricing, on loyalty and satisfaction, and it shouldn't be any supprise that when it comes to pricing, Only the Nuggets, Raptors, and Calves had more fans respond that they feel like they're being priced out of the market when it comes to being able to attend games and as far as watching games in person, The Jazz are among the highest ranked teams according to the survey of fans responding that they're not

In the NBA. When you are in the midst and you.

Guys never had this type of stretch of purgatory. You never had this long of a stretch of a team that was unseerious about being able to compete at the highest of levels. But you did have some rebuilds or some pivots here there. What sort of toll does an extensive rebuild when you're not winning games take on an organization? And what do you make of Jazz fans for the first time maybe tangibly expressing some disappointment with the direction of the organization.

Yeah, well it's very hard s first of all, not to think the obvious and flow of cliches that, but winning in the NBA is very very hard, and winning and any kind of consistent level, uh is even on another tier. And uh, what you have to do as a front office mooop in an organizations to have a plan in place that that you feel it can be able to show some mincum of progress on a year to year basis, can give us everybody the opportunity to look at it and say, hey, it.

Looks like we are making some pot.

Done.

Uh, but it's going to take it a little time.

We mentioned in a previous show where that happened when the Josh first moved to Colake and the uh near the eighties. It's Frank Lane took.

Over and started drafting.

Uh.

Well, had to do that over a six year period. Really, you start with Daryl Griffith and and pil Bailey and Market and the body answered and Don Stockton and call him alone, and then you throw in Dominique Wiltons.

They drafted. It was obviously a great DRAFTI never same here for the financial leads up that.

They had him in that mix, uh for a moment. And then off of the Stag and Danty. You had a lot of moves and you had to hit on a lot of them, and then you had to collect them into a working group that can see some progress

You want to call it, however you want to couch it. The bottom lineers they.

On the day that they decided to trade everybody away, there's no you know, you don't get any uh freebies or doovers or anything like that. You know, when you two the baby out with the basketball to start to speak and getting rid of the Mitchell and go bath teams and all those guys, uh, you are starting over. And so that's where they're at now.

Now they've got a lot of young guys and they're trying to figure out how to had a piece them together and how they're gonna work together, and they're hoping uh but some luck.

Obviously, the big ticket at the moment in that process for them, of course, was this uh uhuh dis draft a process where they're hoping to get the numbers.

All right, Smitty, we're gonna set you loose, uh the cell phone connections, Smitty is traveling throughout Europe, so we'll get them back on next week. Uh did our best. There wasn't gonna work all good. Pablo will stop by. We'll do a little RSL. We're back to Utah football. We got some practice sound. Ben Solack will stop by to talk some NFL. Max Brown later on for some more college football. But we're live today, Dish Professionals eight oh one, four to two four Dish eight oh one,

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It's eight oh one, four to two four dish eighth one four to two four dish or stop by four eighty six West forty eight hundred south here in Salt Lake. Ryan, you are the man, Thanks buddy. All right, one hour down, three hours to go. Coming up on the other side, we'll switch gears. A very angry Pablo Master Johnnie after the game on Sunday, addressed the media via zoom. We'll see if Pablo is still in the space of being frustrated with officials.

How does Rwan Cruz look?

Is the old tune gkid getting close to the visa RSL in action coming up the weekend?

Pob Lo will stop by.

We got sound from Utah practice we're gonna play coming up at three thirty from coaches and players, so we'll get back to college and pro football.

Ben Solac later on, Max Brown later on, we got a busy Tuesday show.

Tuesday Afternoon Style eight oh one, four to two, four dishes. The number four eighty six West forty eight hundred South is location Little Southwest on the show today, We've got some sound from Utah football practice we're gonna bring to you coming up. We'll call it about thirty minutes from right now. Ben Solac from ESPN stops by to talk NFL. Max Brown later on for more college football, but starting at three o'clock hour today, we'll do a little RSL.

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The head coach of our local soccer club, pob Blo Master Johnny hops on on a Tuesday afternoon Pop's happy Tuesday.

How we doing happy to do this well? Buds?

Are we really doing well? Are we really doing well?

I mean look frustrating series of events against New York after taking that one no lead is gozo tallied really early on? Uh, now that we're a couple of days away, where are you at with what I perceived to be?

Uh?

Some?

And I'm not a blame the officials, guy, I really am not.

But when it appears to be egregious and honestly what it appears to be like the same dude, it's hard to entirely ignore. So which targets on a Tuesday afternoon, are you still most fired up about.

After a really, really tough series of events that went against you guys against New York?

Yeah?

You know again, I think the way I always look at these things in reflection is like, what could we have done differently from from our standpoint? Obviously in the in in the short term, which is the game, which is the thing that matters the most, is about getting

So there's a small part of me that believes d A needs a little time off. Okay, small part of me that believes he's just a little bit on fumes.

And we talked about that.

So I suppose, you know, not having him this weekend might be beneficial for the stretch run.

But you got to help me understand. I mean, the Kyle.

Duncan kid pulled him down, and it looked pretty obvious in real time. The assistant ref had the correct call, correct right, and and and so ultimately, you know, Diego sent off and then they send Kyle off upon review. I'm just confused, man, Like, help me understand that series of events.

How did you digest that from your vantage point the.

Same way you did Spence? The lineman had it right, he blew a foul against this guy, so and the way he grabbed him around his neck, Diego had no choice but the fall on the guy. There's no other there's no other place for him to go. He's dragging him on his hip. So and again like, this is what I want to know from from tomorrow's chat with these guys as as the how they're doing these things

One more thing on the officials, and then we'll move off of it because other things to get to for sure. And I don't know, maybe around two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine thereabouts when our team started to get a little bit better and the club started to play better, and you know, we would always have these conversations about how the sport and how the league is evolving.

And I don't know how.

You would articulate that, but for a league that is adding uh, you know Sunny Thomas Mueller, Lionel Messi, I mean some real international powerhouses and you know, owners that are coming in with deeper pockets and valuations for teams that are through the roof, and soccer specific stadiums being built all across the country, does it feel like the officiating from a macro viewpoint is keeping up with the progress that every other facet of this sport in this

Yeah, I think that's a good question, and I would say I would say it's it's it's pretty inconsistent, you know. I think a well reffed game is a game where you don't even realize who the center f is, you know, and it's and everything's calm. Everything is like the fouls er fouls and not no fouls or no fouls, and there's consistency in the way the game is, the game is refed and sometimes you need to blow to us a little bit more because the games chip yer, but

This camera the game.

Meanwhile, the players and the fans come to see the players, not the referee underneath the video. So if we can improve that, and then as far as the off sides is, if we want to be a top league, I think we have to invest in getting these lines that other leagues in the world have, so where it's not it's

All right, moving off that topic, and let's just talk about the game. I don't let's start with the goal. It's one of my favorite goals. You guys have scored all year. I we don't know how many passes maybe eleven, twelve, thirteen, Diego's left footed ball, It's just like, that's so wild that he was able to find Willie who laid it

Yeah, no, that's a great point.

No.

I think again, going into this field, I think there's two different two different ways of operating. One we can play to the field or we can play true to who we are, right and so we're a team that again we want to pull teams. We want to build from the back, not just to be arrogant in the way we play, but there's actually a tactical application where if you bring a team forward right to pressure goalkeeper,

Help me understand how in a professional setting a field, because it was interesting. I didn't know you felt the way you felt until post game, but I'm watching the match, I'm like, that looks like a local muni field in like you know, West Valley, that hasn't been watered in five.

Six, seven weeks or whatever. How is that allowed?

How are conditions like that allowed when it comes to a professional league in the biggest major metropolitan area in our country by the way, you know, like it is New York like PF, Like, how is this allowed? And what sort of benchmarks or you know, guardrails are in place to kind of keep this from happening again, Yeah, you.

Know, I think, well, here's the thing is, obviously every club is trying to maximize the revenue. They had a concert on that field a few days before the game, and you know, I talked to the coach, like I said, before the game, and he actually commented after the game and said that game shouldn't have been played. The field was not in any kind of standard to be played.

Way, and.

You know that they're they're a more direct team where they're where they're playing balls forward and knocking it down and so you know, but to be fair that their own coach said the same thing I did. It's not safe, especially when you have these million million plus players, you know, dollar players on the field. Our biggest asset as a league are the players themselves, and we're putting them in the arms way by by playing on you know, fields that are that are in that type of condition.

Let me go back to Diego for a moment.

Is there a part of you that does kind of feel like he might need a weekend off to kind of decompress and rest and get his legs on it.

I mean, look, you he's probably your best player, so.

Of course you want him in the lineup, and you're a better team with him. I'm not saying you're not, but is there a part of you atsch all right, I could take the weekend off and let's get you back ready, you know, with fresh legs.

Yeah, and yes, yes, one hundred percent agree with that. I think the toughest thing to do with, especially a young player, you know, in Diego Luna, because we we oftentimes forget that he's only twenty one years old, and his rise to where he is now almost seems like it's you know, it's in the last eight months, what's it's been bruined, but like the last you know, four months. Really he's shot up in the you know, the stratosphere.

All right.

So we've seen Rowan Cruz a couple of different times in and you know, de truncated moments in league's cup play or final match. We saw him for a minute and then he came on in the second half against New York. Things like this take time, and this is

Yeah.

I would say he's got a really really good understanding of the game, and I think that soccer i Q in that part of the field is really really important. You know, I think he's he saw in the New York game where he did really well receiving the ball with his back to goal, so his hold up play was solid. Decisions from that were really solid. And then there's also a moment or two where he made runs behind the back line and was able to stretch it.

I asked Kurt this last week, I'm curious to get your take as a player. One of the things I've always had a difficult time really grasping as somebody who tries to analyze the game and analyze the league, is how players that come from other parts of the world are prepared to play in MLS juxtaposed to the league

Yeah, you know, I think the only the best metric we can use is the fact that he's played abroad before and so his acclamation to a new environment won't be shocking to him. And that's about where it ends, Spence, because every league plays different. The weather is different, Like there's not too many leagues in Europe that are playing in the summertime, and so like the heat thing is real. You know, the distance and travel right, so that for four and a half hour flight to New York, that's

All right, before segul loose, let's get an update on the Olatunji kid. I know we're working on his work visa, so where are we at in that process? And just kind of same question, what have you learned about him in a few days and weeks he's.

Been on the ground now.

Yeah, so again what I've what I've noticed is a real propensity to score goals. Uh, you know, his his left foot, his power, his right foot, his power and placement great in the air. He's been finishing some unbelievable crosses and we haven't really had that presence uh in front of goal as far as just fall in and he makes it happen. So and again, he's a he's a player that more threatens the back line. He's a willing runner to where you know, I think Ron likes to come defeat.

Uh.

You know, Victor likes his wretch and so having that balance would be really really important for our group. And you know what I've seen in you know, in the five or six training sessions we've had with him, is he's a real threat front of goal, which is awesome. And then again, what does that do to our opposing defenses. They might have to man mark, they might have to double team, which then opens up space for the guys

All right, buddy, Well, as you know, you can't exist in the past so go get three.

At Charlotte and pulling for you as always. Next for the time, let's go all rights.

Appreciate it.

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Him You Bucks fan, Yes, sir, all right.

I did the scrimmage got saturday.

You all went well.

It wasn't as physical as some scrimmage as we've had with the ones. We had most of the ones that thud work, not live and so that was a little bit different in that regard. We've done that in the past at times, and we just felt like that was the best approach for the first scrimmage. Two's got all the live work. They were live in the entire scrimmage and so had some good teaching tape. And I think

And how do you feel about the wide receiver group?

And that group is coming along. We feel like we've identified the top seven to seven or eight guys that are going to be the travelers and that we're going to sink all the rips into the rest of the world, so that that group is really starting to gel.

I guess you could.

Say what look like with your running back dep go.

You know, the top two guys would be way Shawn Parker and Coari Rodgers, not necessarily in that order. They're interchangeable as the one. We're also, you know, having some good production from Daniel Bray racing Gillery, a couple of freshmen that really look like they have a lot of promise. And then of course Devin is like a running back back there at times, and so he's adding to what

Do you not see like a workhorse type situation?

While the committee not yet, not yet, it's more bi committee at this point, but again it's still early. We've got fifteen practices left and we'll see how it continues to develop.

Has anybody emerged in the back of the quarterback?

No, that's tight as it was prior to the scrimmage. They both did some really good things in the scrimmage. They they made in some mistakes and so that's an ongoing process. The competition continues, and right now I would say that's going to continue at least through the next scrimmage and the next and final scrimmage, which will be driving and we gotta we gotta make a decision shortly thereafter.

But but it'll continue until then with both of those guys.

And how confident are you that they could get in there if Devin needs time offer?

Like, where are you at in terms of kind of.

The did Yeah, that's a good question. Obviously, Isaac is the one that has the Division one experience and that definitely will has helped him and will help him if he's called upon this year. We're not sure how Bird will react in a game situation. He's he's just a true finishment and so that's that works in Isaac's favorite

To got the You've got the five freshman defensive tackles that we're looking for help from.

How is that?

How is that group is good?

We think those guys have a ton of upside. And the position group, the detacled position group, is going to be well stocked for years to come. You say that with the port of us, you never know, but at least right now, we feel like we're in a good place. Couple is ready doing a great job. Capuci kids doing a great job. They're all they're all doing things well, and they're all coming along and learning and getting better each day. But we think that we're gonna have some

The big differences between Rogers and Parker in the backfield.

Well not a ton. They're both similar in size, you know, five, ten, five or eleven. We got two hundred and ten pounds. They both do an outstanding job of picking up blitzer and they're not afraid.

They stick their nose in there.

And they're north and South guys. So they run behind their pads well and get up field, and they both have good hands, so they're they're very similar. NCR just has more experience, you know. Wait, sone's just a true.

Soft separation on that final corner spot.

Oppositely Scotty Blake Cotton right now is starting to make a push and so I'd say he's got the uh, he's got the edge right now.

All right, there you go. Coach Wit.

Media availability a little early earlier on. I'll take this opportunity to remind you that if you are looking for practice sounds, you can always find it at ESPN seven hundred sports dot com, and when we have access to it, we like to bring it back around to you throughout the course of our daily show. So there's coach Wit. Let's move over now to QB one. You guys know him, excited to watch him play. Here's Devin damp here.

Devin, how did you.

Think the scrimmage went on Saturday? Within just the offensive progression?

Yeah, I think the scrimmage wing very well. You can tell everyone's getting a lot more comfortable Esechly, you know, getting to see a running backs get tackled, you know, it's a little harder to get tackled when we get to the day, So it was just good to see us clicking our all set.

And who were the guys that stood out to you in terms of your pass catchers and receiver situs that.

Sort of Yeah, you know, I think Larry had a very big day for him. He's getting more comfortable through it. But uh, you know, I thought we had a very good day all around.

Very limited drops.

You know, I think I think everybody was making plays.

What do you think of those two guys behind you and uh and Rogers and Parker. I mean they're kind of similar. They both could you know, beat you with speed. They are both power backs as well. How do you differentiate the two Yeah.

Uh yeah, no, they they're very you know one too that it's very rotational, so uh, I mean I love it. I know if I hand that ball off, they're gonna give me four or five. So, uh, you know, that's a great feeling to have as a quarterback.

Devin.

Compared to where you were at last year at this point, how do you feel like your game is changer?

How do you kind of assess your game right now here?

Yeah, you know, I always feel like the game just gets sower and sower by the year. You know, you get more comfortable with the guys and stuff, and uh, just me being more in the leadership uh role now than I was last year. Just being able to bring people on and uh, I think you know, we're we're building something here. Uh, I'm very excited for this game coming up.

They have a strong running game like you do.

Do you think that takes some of the pressure off with your ability to run or not ability, but you don't have to take as many chances to try to you know, risk injury and and and keep the ball yourself.

Yeah, you know, I think football is on those games you rather you win with the past, you win with the run. So just to make sure that they have to respect our run game, our receiver is gonna have a field day as well, so you know works vice versa.

You have a bunch of experience in this offense.

How do you feel that the players around you that maybe are new to it, how are they adjusting and how's the installment?

Yeah, I think they're adjusting very well. They asked me questions what they can do better, and uh, you know that's that's just a great that's just a great thing going into football when you can get on the same cylinders. It's all about brotherhood and just having any fish and play, so everyone wants to buy in.

We've heard a lot about JJ Buchanan.

What what have you seen from him to give you confidence that he could be a guy this year? Yeah, day did a freaking nature to have someone that big and that that athletic and just at that young age to be able to come in here and work the way he does big things coming.

From Rashauna said that he wants to put up fifteen hundred this year. Utah has never had a quarterback that's rush for one thousand yards. Is that a goal you're looking at?

Yeah?

I mean, you know, I just I played a win, and you know, if it happens to me running that ball, you know, I'm gonna do it as the best for my team. So if that comes with it, and that's nice to happen.

Okay, all right, there you go. Devin Dampier QB one for the University of Utah.

As we discussed a little bit earlier, Utah breaking in a new quarterback this year. BYU breaking in a new quarterback this year, it appears they've landed on bear Bachmeyer. According to Taron Roderick today during BYU practice, bear Bachmeyer took the majority of the reps with the ones, with McKay Hillstead grabbing a little bit as well. But seven of the top ten teams in the AP Top twenty five are breaking in new quarterbacks this year. So it's kind of a reality now and has been for a while.

So there you go. Good stuff from Devin today.

Final one that will play on this Tuesday of the show. New captain for the Utah Youth Tiers, Jared, Come.

Well, Jared, there's a lot of talk about this offensive line. Have you kind of lived up to expectations so far in camp? Yeah?

I mean we're really flattered for all the talk, all the positive talk, but in reality, our attitude as an old line is that we haven't proved anything. I mean this season, I hating started pre season accolades in reality don't mean anything. No one's gonna remember those. So our goal, I mean, our our mentality, our attitude is that we

Jaren, what does it mean to you to be a captain?

It is the biggest honor that, honestly I can think of. I mean, I'm I'm I'm so fortunate. I would say so fortunate that my teammates you know see me, you know, see me as a as a guy who's essentially able to fulfill that role as a captain. And so I'm so honored that to be to be put in this position, and so I will do everything I can to earn it every single day.

Time.

It's different about this team or what's kind of the makeup of this team as compared to maybe years past.

Yeah, I mean we have had a team meeting kind of about this we I mean, I think it's just over fifty percent of this team is brand new. So there's a lot of new guys and that's something that you know, me being here sometime, this is something that's

It not being into any of the preseason stuff. I guess you're gonna take it as a slight to you guys were not in the preseason Top twenty five EP was just released today. There's like four big twelve teams that are Do you feel that that's this mentality of this group is something to prove?

Oh?

Yeah, absolutely, we got something to prove. I mean, you guys know last year is obviously not the standard, and so it's not being top twenty five. I mean that's you know, that's not outside of expectations because of that. So yeah, we got so much to prove. And that's that's the other two we have, is that we we gotta come out and improve everything that we believe that we are.

Karen Temistry with Devin Damn here.

Oh it's been it's been growing really well.

I forging love to do.

He's a outstanding, not only out staying quarterback, he's now staying a teammate. I mean, I think he'd be okay if I said he's taking us out to eat. I don't even know how many times as an entire offensive line. So he's he's a he's a team guy, you know, he's a he's a guy that's really here with the boy, you know, for the boys. And he's an awesome addition to the locker room, not only locker room in the offense as well. So it is, but it is, but he is as he's been really awesome with us. So

All right, there you go, Jared Cump. He was just named a captain for the Utes.

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So Jordan Love played his college ball Utah State. We all kind of cheer from here.

Looks like he's gonna have a little procedure on his non throwing hand.

Ben what's your understanding of the nature of this injury and how long do you think he'll be out?

He should be ready for week one. Non throwing hands kind of like, hey, you know, fix it up, stitch it up, put some dirt on it, you know, put a little protective shield on it. Let's go. If anything, you take out those couple of plays in the playbook where you hand the ball off with your left hand right some of the funky backfield stuff but other than that, you'll largely expect them to go ahead and play invite

I think it's fair to say after sitting behind Aaron Rodgers for a few years, once Jordan got that job, it's been good, maybe sometimes very good. What has to happen for him to take that next step and actually have some sustained success come, you know, playoff time, maybe win a couple of playoff games.

Yeah, they were one and five against their division, lost both of the Vikings, lost both the Lions, and split with the Bears. The game they won against the Bears, if you recall, was a game winning block field goal too, so it wasn't like that was open and shut. They also lost to Philadelphia in the season opener and then

Right.

They bring in Josh Jacobs, they draft and developed Jayden red and all these excellent offensive linemen. On the defensive side of the ball, it's Rashaun Garry, and it's Lucas van Nets, it's Kenny Clark. Edrick Cooper was great for them as a rookie. They bring in Zaviray McKinnon free agency, and everybody I've named here. Spence is a good to great player. But when it comes to field tipping, franchise changing players, right, those guys who really really cause matchup

Let's stick with quarterbacks, Let's stick with local storylines, and let's talk Jackson Dart with his first preseason experience in the NFL.

There looks good.

I mean, he had a touchdown pass and you know, we watched him grow up around here before he left for college. We know that Brian dave ballas said Russell Wilson, will be their starter. But what did you make of the first opportunity we had to see Jackson play a little pro football? And what sort of chance does he have to maybe at some point actually get on the field for the Giants.

I strongly expect we'll see him start at some point this season. Both head coach Brian Dabele and general manager Joe Shane we're told pretty explicitly, I mean, ownership is clear about this. In presconfaence at the end of the year, they were told, listen, you know, we need to see substantial improvement in this season, this twenty twenty five season, or it's going to be a new guy in charge

Over the course of the past well almost six years now you've been coming on this show, We've often talked about Zach Wilson because he played his college ball at BYU and I'm a Jets fan and watched him struggle mightily to acclimate to the NFL. And whether it's, you know, it's the chicken or the egg thing. Is that a Zach problem? Is it a Jet problem? It's probably a bit of both. But he does have an opportunity to continue his pro football journey in Miami as potentially to his backup.

Do you think he'll get that job?

And what did you make of the truncated space we saw from him preseason Week one?

Yeah, I'm almost certain he'll get that job. Right now, KiB three for them is Queen Yours out of Texas on his big time college quarterback, but a late round pick who really is just struggle to translate to the NFL level. So A strongly except that Zach will be the KB two there in Miami, which has historically been a good job at a not so good job. It's been a good job because to him is his time

Should or Sanders gets the start in the first game for the Browns in the preseason, they have some injuries in that quarterback room. They brought in former ti Or Huntley, who we saw for a moment a lot of people, and look, Shador is going to have a very bright spotlight on him for a number of different reasons that we all understand. Your takeaways week one with Shador you know, performing I think very well, and whether or not you think he actually gets that job.

Yeah, so I think that the first box you wanted to check was, Hey, we thought this cat was going to be a muster earlier pick. He goes in round five, and a lot of the reporting around that was how he handled the pre draft process and you know, kind of a side show that comes with him and his pops and okay, well, you know, how much do we want that in our building relative to his talent level.

A couple of QB battles.

We saw Anthony richardson for a moment before he left with a finger injury, and Daniel Jones came.

On, and you know, he looks like Daniel Jones if you've watched.

Them play before. There are moments where you're like, hey, maybe be can figure it out. And then in the long run, I'm not sure that he's a long term answer for anybody. But who do you think it's that job with the Colts.

Man, I don't know. It's I think that they're confident that they can win nine games at Daniel Jones a quarterback, and deservedly so. Daniel Jones is as an average quarterback with a decently high floor and run the RPO offense. He ran for Gardner Minshew a couple of years ago, and you have such a good cadrip weapons there, Jonathan Taylor, the rookie tight end, Tyler war and besides the wide receivers, right, Josh Downs and Michael Pittman, Alex Pearce, ad and my Mitchell.

Have we reached any sort of level.

Sean McVay was pretty honest and forthcoming about his creeping concern with Matt Stafford's back. He didn't practice today. I think McVeigh was expecting him to be ready to play.

Now.

Look, it's not like this is a rookie that needs reps. This is a Super Bowl winning quarterback we all know about.

But if you're a RAMS fan, at what point are you concerned about your starting quarterback?

Right now?

If not before?

Right now?

You know we I don't need to tell you about thirty seven year old in bats, right. I mean, like this is like everybody I've ever met who termed thirty five in my life has been like, man, I can't bend over anymore, you know, like my back goes, I turn around, I moved too quickly. I've got a crick that doesn't go away for two weeks. You know this is there are injuries that players can go through from

So we saw Little Joe Burrow week one preseason and he hit connected with Jamar a few times, and he himself has talked about how good he feels, how healthy he is.

Can Cincinnati stop anybody?

I mean, you know, when you look at the odds to win the Super Bowl, Cincinnati is down with the Commanders at eighteen to one, so it's not impossible. And we know offensively who they are, what they can do, but defensively with their questions and we saw it again. I mean, oh, it's only the preseason, but I'm not saying it feels like they're wasting a prime Joe Burrow. But Joe Burrow is among the best quarterbacks and all the pro footballers you know.

Do the Bengals have the defense this year to be taken seriously?

Yeah, I'm surprised that of all the Utah guys you're asking me about asking me about Tanner McKee. I thought, I'm pretty sure he's the use of high school product and memories. There's I love me Old Tanner McKee is been good basket the Degal for a while and he shredded the Bengals in the preseason. If the Bengals defense can stop anybody, I tell you they're better suited on offense this year for a Super Bowl run than they've ever been because they're better running the football now they've been.

Vegas tells us the Super Bowl winner will likely come from the pool of the Eagles, the Ravens, the Bills, and the Chiefs. Do you agree that those are the four teams that we all should be honed in on. And is there any other team outside of the top four you would add to that group?

Yeah, I would take that four over the field for sure. And I think that a big part of the reason why is because it's just the Ravens and the Bills are so desperate for it. There's such an intensity in those two buildings right now to find a weakness in the Chiefs to be able to get over the hump there in the AFC. So there's an intensity there. And then obviously, but the Chiefs, you have the championship pedigree, right we woy not be surprised if they show it

I don't know what I want to ask you about the Cowboys. I know, I just want to ask you about the Cowboys.

You know, they have an event last night, you know, for their docu series that's coming out, and Jerry Jones is asked about the Micah Parson stuff, and he's asked about all the chaos the team to surround that organization all year long, and he essentially leaned into it by saying like we're soap opera and if nobody's talking about us, I'll make sure we do something to get attention. It just every time he opens his mouth it feels so tone deaf, yet not surprising because this is who he

I thought there was a really wonderful piece on ESPN today that Bill barn Will, my colleague, wrote about how the conservative estimate for how much money the Cowboys have cost themselves in cap space by waiting on the back Breas that deal, waiting on the CD LAMB deal, waiting on the Michael Parsons deal, the conservative estimate is eighty four million dollars. So if for Jerry getting to see the Cowboys on Get Up at nine o' five is worth eighty four million dollars than Listen. He's a much

Let's go.

Dak has always been a shrewd businessman who's done his job well there in Dallas and has used his you know, big soapboxes the Cowboys franchise quarterback to help make more money for himself. Like those guys kind of are are more typical bills and approaches for star players. Micah Man Like, when Micah says I've done being a Dallas cowboy, I don't think it's true. I said, ninety five percent chance

A couple of minutes left, Ben, before I set you loose, someone to ask you about a couple of teams, as I do every time you join us that have the most interest in our region. As a result of the move to Vegas, the Raiders are the closest team in proximity to us here in Salt Lake City.

Year one for Pete Carroll, it's a new everything there.

Will they at least maybe represent some sort of hope for long suffering Raiders fans.

I think they will. I think you'll have to squint a little bit, because just from a depth chart perspective, right now, the Raiders' offensive line and then pretty much all three levels of the defense are just not where you want to be to consistently produce wins. They're going to lose games because they're under too much pressure right

Right.

The Christian Wilkins injury and subsequent release is such a big one. They lost over five thousand snaps from the defense last year into this year. And that doesn't even include Marcus Aps, who was the twenty twenty three starter who got hurt in twenty twenty four. Mary got the building, Robert Saline out the building, Calebon chasing out the building, Nate Hans out the building, Jack Jones up the building. They just lost so many dudes from that defensive jet chart,

Ten record last one. Year two BONICKX Year two Sean Payton. Denver Broncos another team that is kind of in the middle as it pertains to the Vegas odds.

Nine and a half is the over under for wins.

So it feels like there's a lot of momentum an optimism for what Denver can be if they kind of continue on this scope.

We've got a lot of former utes on that roster. What do you think this year looks like for the Broncos.

It's going to be. They're one of the hardest teams to figure out. For one, you have advanced Joseph defense that's not only returning many starters but also added in free agency Calenohufon and Dreg green Law added in NIFL Draft today. There and right, this is one of the best defense in the league that added dudes. But if you go and you look at the history of defenses, it's actually a lot harder to repeat two top five seasons in a row than you would expect, even when

Right.

The two years previous to last season when they were excellent, they were like bottom ten in the league, you know, and again with a lot of the similar personnel, because he plays a very high risk, high rewards style. So I want to trust the defense, and on paper I do, but the reality of defense in the NFL is that you play a couple more starting quarterbacks, you have a couple more injuries, and you can go from five to

Ben, thanks man for the time, great time of year. Pro Football's back. Have a great week and we'll chat too.

Appreciate you, spence to take care the great.

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How are you, buddy, No, it's all good.

It's all good.

You made up for it with the PAC twelve intro. I love for that, can never can never forget.

For sure.

But it still is weird. We don't have to relitigate. It's still just wild, though. But let's start with what's new with you?

So?

What what is what's the college football season and schedule going to look like for you this year? Max?

Yeah, switching up network networks.

I was at the CW last year calling their full ACC package.

It'll be a similar schedule for me, but now with the ACC.

Network, So I'll have no. I'll be with ESPN, be calling games with Chris Cotter over there, and it'll be a rotating schedule, so you know, sometimes the one pm kick, sometimes the four pm kick, but it'll be a lot of East Coast college football these days.

Good stuff, good stuff. Well out this way we are again.

I'm shaking my head as I say we're in the big twelve foot print because for so long we were in the back twelve foot print.

But it's year two for Utah. Max.

Let me just ask you, just macro standpoint, take it whatever direction you want to take it. What gives you the most confidence that year two for Utah will look much better than year one in the big twelve?

Yeah, just the history of what Ale Witningham has been at that program, which I know you Utes fans know well, but I think nationally sometimes sometimes people forget about that of just how obscure and how disappointing last year was and how much of a surprise it was. And I don't think that'll happen again for Utah. I do think, you know, these past couple of years feel like on paper, like that was the window if Utah was going to

In the thick of things.

And I think we were this time last year expecting that Utah would be the enforcers in the Big twelve. And hey, Big twelve, like, you know, get ready for the utes coming to town that obviously didn't come to Fruition last year. But I feel confident in a conference that doesn't necessarily have physicality across the board, there's no reason that can't be Utah's mo and you know, kind of sent a message to to the rest of the conference still being someone of the new guys in that conference.

So Devin Dampierre is the new quarterback and it actually is a little i would say relieving for the.

Fan base around here just to know who's going to be under center.

And he arrives in Salt Lake with his offensive coordinator from a year ago, now it was New Mexico. Devin put up some good numbers last year, a lot with his legs. The throw game numbers as coach, we would like to say weren't necessarily all that good. But what sort of challenge is does a step up in competition pos and max. What are you expecting from Devin dan Pierre under center for the Utes this year?

Yeah, right away is considered who with Dan Pierre like because he's such a mobile quarterback and his legs being a factor like I would have still imagine that's obviously going to be a huge part of his game. But I do think it's a notch higher in terms of the athletes you're getting in the secondary. In the Apple Beat, you're getting a linebacker from a throw standpoint, which if Utah is going to be in Big Twelve title contention, I do think they're gonna have to throw the rock.

Tell me Max, what you know about UCLA.

Utah Is opening opponent this year on the non con will be at the Rose Bullegain's UCLA. We're still eighteen days away, but we already have odds. Utah is about a touchdown. Favorite DraftKings right now has a minus six point five. So it's a road games, first game for Devin. What we know about the Bruins, Utah's first opponent this season.

Yeah, they have the most noteworthy and I'm sure you've covered it with your audience, with the most noteworthy quarterback transfer really of the entire offseason, and Nico Yamalayava coming from Tennessee. A lot of controversy around that obviously transfer and after spring because if you believe the reports you.

Here that he wasn't getting the money that he wanted.

So welcome to new school Nil and transfer portal.

But I would say from a Utah lens, I.

Mean, the threat of what that team can be with Nico behind center, to me, is a lot scarier than where they were before him, obviously, or funny enough, I shouldn't say obviously, but Joey Aguilar was on track to be their starter. Nico comes in and so then Joey just transfers to Tennessee and it was a little musical chairs game there. But I think Nico's got a lot

I don't They've lost some.

Talent in the portal in their own right. That's concerning to me. They lost j Michael Sturt event their go to receiver a year ago to Florida. I believe it was one of my one of the one of the state of Florida schools, and so that to me is the biggest concern is. I mean, Nico's got some talent, but I wonder what UCLA has around him. And so I'm from a Utah lens, I think it's an opportunity to uh, you know, send a message week one.

So the Vegas odds to win the Big Twelve depending on which sports book you look at, but it's more or less Arizona State, k State, Texas Tech, Utah, and Baylor as the five team. And look, we were all so wrong about this conference a year ago that they just decided to kill the Big.

Twelve preseason media poll.

So odds are what they are, and preseason polls are what they are. But I guess the way I'll ask it, Max, is your tier one teams in the Big Twelve are who and why?

And as Utah in that mix.

That's hilarious.

I actually didn't even know that.

That's funny, Yether like, we picked ASU to finished last last year, so we're not going to have the terrible PR crisis what that was.

That's hilarious.

I mean, the Tier one is probably as wide as any Tier one of any conference, which is what makes the Big Twelve amazing because I do think, you know, there's well probably five or six teams in there. I mean maybe this is media West Coast bias. I still put Utah in that tier because of the upside of what Dan Peer can do because of what Whittingham has done.

And again I think last year was an outlier.

I put Texas Tech there, I put Iowa State there, I put Kansas State there, and I probably put Arizona State there. First two out for me, I had TCU I called one of their games last year. I'm still not there with them. I know people like Josh Hoover their quarterback, and then Colorado also has questions that quarterback. So yeah, to me, it's those five teams that I mentioned. I'm very intrigued with what Texas Tech is. I mean

A whole notch.

And one thing that I don't think is getting covered as much with their transfer portal acquisitions as maybe should is they are betting on Baron Moore and their quarterback to be the guy that can lead him to a championship, and they did not go to the outside and invest in a transfer portal quarterback, which I think a lot of schools with that kind of money would have done that.

BYU a year ago they were picked to finish to last and finish second in the conference.

Further in the narrative of why we're no longer allowed to.

Rank these teams preseason, but they lose their quarterback, Jake Ratz Laugh is now at Tulane. Of course, that story was wildly, you know, widely covered, not just here locally but naturally with the honor coach stuff. It was certainly sticky and certainly messy. It sounds like Max they're going to start the bear Bachmeyer kid. I don't know if you know anything about him. He's a freshman that spent

Sounds like he's.

Gonna get that job over McKay Hillstead and Tracon Borgae, who sounds like he's the odd man out. BYU well ranked ahead of Utah in both the AP and the coaches poll, is eighth in Vegas and odds to win the conference even behind Kansas, just ahead of Colorado. Good defense, good coaching staff. What are you expecting this year from bringing me up?

Yeah, I'm waiting to see.

On the quarterback position, I think obviously, anytime you're losing a starter that was were successful for them, that's that's concerning. I do think you know, it wasn't like Retslov was always the reason they were winning games, which would make me encourage if I was b YU where hey, maybe you know if it is Bachmeyer, who I've covered his brother in person, called a couple of his games last year at Wake Forest, you know, if he steps in and he's the guy like you don't need to light

Were a year ago.

Moving off to Big twelve and talking some big picture national college football, Texas is your number one team of both the AP and the coaches, Paul, of course, Steve sarkisian arch manning a lot of buzz around Texas this year. Are they deserving number one? Do you think they're the best team in college football this year?

I do.

I would have put them there.

I was actually kind of surprised they were one because everything I'm listening to and reading it feels like most people have either Penn State or Clemson as their number one team, But I like Texas. I mean, I'm a believer in what Arch can be. I mean, I know you're I'm getting ahead of myself with that take, but I just the brief action. We've seen everything you read, you listen, you listen to his interviews, Like you know, I'm I'm bought in and in the hype there and

Georgia is going to be breaking in a new starter.

I mean that's what.

Five four teams there and Ohio State, So half the top ten has brand new quarterbacks. That's I feel like we haven't had that in years past, which obviously a lot of those starters are highly ranked guys.

But what's the.

Upside Because if one of those teams is going to come up and win a national title, it's because hey, the quarterback that we don't know anything about could be a guy that's a high upside guy like I know, I'm super intrigued with what Dante Moore could be at Oregon after sitting out a year and being a former five star guy. I feel like sometimes people latch on the only what he was as a true freshman youngster at UCLA and forget he was a big time recruit

Before I said you lose and your point about these schools breaking in new quarterbacks certainly a good one and certainly one we've covered a lot because BYU and Utah

How beneficial is that for those.

Two teams really maybe the only two teams in the top upper echelon of college football that actually do have return in QBS.

Yeah, it's huge, it's huge.

I do wonder though, like, because we fell into this trap as a media world last year, at least a lot of people did. I won't speak for you, Spence, but we we anointed Carson Beck this time last year as like the shirt fire number one overall pick in the NFL draft or at worst he's at least a first rounder.

And how wrong are we with that?

I mean, he's not even a top ten quarterback in preseason list this year. And I wonder if we're doing the same thing with Drew Aler because he looks the part coming off the bus and he's obviously got a rocket arm. But man, sometimes I think, hey, Tyler Warren, you know, do we underestimate the impact that he had

Those guys still have a big step to do.

And Kate Klubnick, I think is deserving of being the top returning quarterback in college football, but again looking at the NFL, like his legs are a huge part of his college game, I think his mobility gets minimized a lot in the NFL, So I think he's got to develop a lot as a pocket passer and like, show me that you can win games from the pocket, you know, leading two minute drills without your legs being a factor. That's when I think he gets to the NFL ceiling.

You are the man.

It's been too long. Always appreciate the time. I have a great week, d and we'd love to chat soon. Thanks buddy, for sure.

Thanks.

Ben's appreciate you all right.

Max Brown, our old buddy from the PAC twelve network now landing with the ACC. Always appreciate Max's time.

He's very active on social media, whether it's Instagram or tikto.

Wherever the kids are doing these days at Max Brown is where you find them. Brown is spelled with a knee.

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