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More cut off guard, I would say with the NFL, just because I don't expect the NFL to be as wild. College football, to me is so unpredictable based on as you mentioned, availability, based on week to week. You just don't know really what you get with a roster full of eighteen to twenty two year olds in this current landscape of the sport. So I think it was more caught off guard with the chaos on the pro side

I enjoyed it, I loved it.

But chaos is kind of what you start to expect when it gets into October November. That's just football, and it's what We're here for and can't wait for what should be even more chaotic in the coming what month to six weeks leading up to conference titles in the college football playoffs.

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So we're back out of this week. We're back at it with both Utah and BYU. Pretty rare where both teams have a bye. Both teams are gonna have two buys this year. The first buy now behind us and now Utah football back out of coming up on Friday night. It is an eighth thirty kick against Arizona State at Mount America Stadium down in Tempe. Our pregame coverage will begin at four thirty, meaning the Drive that day will be a little bit of a short show and then

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First of all, bye week came in a really good time for us. Gave us a chance to regroup a little bit and get some guys, some of the bumps and bruises that have accumulated.

Healed up.

We've been going shoot since August first, so over two months straight without any sort of a break. So it's good for these guys to get a break. I think we, as we do every year, try to strike a good balance with getting some practice in but at the same time giving them some downtime to refresh. Arizona State road trip this week, they're playing well four and one. Impressed with you know a lot of things about their football team. They're much more productive offensively this year than they were

Okay in regards to the Arizona University game.

In the first quarter, it was fourth down two years ago, you decided to go for the first down instead of kicking the field goals. It is in my belief that if you would have kicked said field goals, we could have kept the momentum and could have potentially won the game. Would you follow the same protocol this week? And he's not a fan of the analytics.

You're not a fan of analytics, So you know you don't believe in science, is what you're trying to say. Uh, you know, there's there's a there's an argument for that, But the analytics was heavily, heavily in favor of going for it in those situations. I've said before, we are pretty tuned into the analytics. It's not absolute for us, and if we have a different field and we'll go a different direction.

But when it's that.

Heavily skewed to going for it, you know, field goals obviously, touchdowns are worth more than double a field goal, and so if you end up kicking field goals a bunch, you don't win many games. And so, in hindsight, if I knew we weren't going to get it on fourth down, we would have we would have kicked, but the strategy and the definite statistic goal, uh recommendation was to go for it. So unfortunately, we we were zero for fourth down in that game, where we had been really good

Uh.

A week ago you said can't rise and all play as soon as he gets to go ahead? Does that go ahead from the medical staff or the coaching staff.

Medical staff, Uh, without any other input. I mean, it's all we're following the recommendations. We he has following the recommendations as well as from the doctors, and and uh, we'll see what happens this week. But but there's a there's a chance I can tell you that, and and uh it's still early in the week, but uh, we're crossing our fingers and hoping for the best as his camp and so we're we're just seeing how things play out.

Kyle.

I'm just curious, what is I guess your strategy behind how you approach the injury report and kind of to follow up on that the Big Ten and the SEC they have mandated injury reports. Would you be in support if the Big twelve were to go in that direction?

One hundred percent. But since there is no mandate, why would you tip your hand in any way, shape or form with injuries? It doesn't make any sense to give the opponent any more knowledge than they have. And so that's the only reason it's not. It's no other reason other than there's a competitive advantage. Even though it might be just slight, it's it's still an advantage. The less they know, the more we know, uh you know, that

So that's where I'm at.

If a player is medically cleared, but he's not one hundred percent, what's your philosophy.

On playing him?

If that player isn't one hundred percent, but whatever percent he is gives you a better chance to win than one.

Hundred percent of the backup. You see what I'm saying.

You answered your own question, PK exactly. It's that's exactly the formula. It's it's who gives you the best chance to win? Is an eighty percent cam Rising more of an opportunity to win than one hundred percent Isaac Wilson. And so that's a coach's decision, a coach's call, and it's you know, it's you're not going to be right all the time, but that's that's the exact criteria we use. And first of all, you know, you don't want to

Be the guy?

Kyle Cam is obviously your guy. But does there come a point in the season where if Cam isn't available that you have to look to the future and just turn it over the eye just to say that this is what it is? Or how long do you wait?

Yeah, that's a good question, and yeah, there is a point. I'm not going to pin ourselves down to an exact specific time, but as things progress, and then also the conference race. You know, where are you in the conference race. There's some things that enter into it, but it certainly could come to that point, but we're not there yet.

And to fall with with Isaac, where does he need to make those next steps each week, especially own or what are you saying that that needs to improve?

I would say the entire his entire game just needs to continue to get tighter and better, you know, cut down on the interceptions. First of all, you know, we've had some interceptions along the way, but there's not one any glaring not any one glaring area we can say, boy, he's really lacking in this or that. It's just he's a freshman, a true freshman, and there's gonna be a learning curve, and there's gonna be mistakes made that you're

That's really what you're looking for.

To kind of piggyback off of that question. Given isaac struggles with turnovers, is there you know, if the keys do have to get handed over to him at some point, is there gonna be a consideration to maybe maybe get Brandon Rose or Sam Heward more reps given the struggles that the offense has had without Cam under Isaac.

Not right now.

Right now, Isaac is the is the guy, and if Cam becomes the guy again, then Isaac becomes the clear cut number two. And again, if Isaac continues to play and doesn't trend in the right direction, then just what you said may come into play, But right now, we don't feel that's in play at this point.

Bernard's had a fantastic season. But what have you seen from the other running backs lately and how do you get more production out of them?

Yeah, Mackay has been the bell cow, he's been RB one. He's played himself into that role. He was not in that role initially at the beginning of the season, where he lets things sort themselves out, which they have, and he is the guy that's getting the vast majority of the carries. The other backs, Mike Mitchell just a freshman still learning, but he's added some value to that room

Bye weeks are important for the players to recoup and rest. For for coaches, how much does it help you guys to reset strammatically personnel wise, just assessing your team gives us a.

Good opportunity to evaluate everything. But there's a lot of recruiting going on as well during the bye week, So it's not just football. Our coaches were on the road for half the half the bye week and so and recruiting never stops. You're doing some form of recruiting every single day, and so when you have a bye week and let you physically get off campus and go watch players and evaluate and so so that was going on.

Given the Arizona ran from more than five yards of carry over one hundred and fifty yards, how do you challenge your defense? How do you talk to them in the film room? And I kind of set the stage. Then you're going against the team.

Likes to run the ball, and that's pretty good at it.

Yeah, well just challenge him just like that, say, if we can stop the run, then we got a good chance of winning. And we did not do a good job against Arizona. We've done a pretty good job all season up until that game. Well all season what was at three games, four games, But.

That'll be the key this week. They're a run heavy team.

They're well over two hundred yards of game rushing, and if we're as non effective as we were in the Arizona game, it's going to be a long It's going to be a long night. And so that is the big challenge for our defense is to start up and become what we know we can be against the run.

Obviously, you walked in the season kind of because there was rumors floating that Cam could potentially play an eighth year of college football given his injury status. Is that a possibility if he has has to shut down for the rest of the season, that he could potentially come back for an eighth year of gold game?

You know what, I couldn't say for sure. That's a compliance question. But if it does come to that point, that's something we would thoroughly.

Have the answer to and research.

But I haven't even really given that any thought because we're just hopefully going to get him back sooner rather than later.

So and I know he wants to play. He wants to play badly.

With the way that the schedule has been set up, you have this week, next weekend, the week after three games, and then another bye week. How crucial is this stretch of the schedule for you.

Guys, Well, it's very crucial. I mean, we got our backs to the wall in a lot of respects.

Right now.

You look at the standings in the Big Twelve and there's two or three teams with three losses.

That are essentially out of it.

I mean, I don't know if I don't see how that any way that they can I guess I shouldn't say there's no way, but it's very, very unlikely that they're going to have an opportunity to be in.

The championship game.

Then the two loss teams have a somewhat of a chance, and everyone with one loss or less is still right in the thick of it. But every week we're we got to get back on track. We didn't play well against Arizona. You can be a good football team and not play well and get your butt energy.

You look at Alabama.

You tell me that Vanderbilt has even close to the personnel that Alabama has. There's no way, I mean that Minnesota has even close to the personnel that USC has. And so that there's illustrations all over the place where it doesn't matter.

Well, it matters.

But you can be a really good football team, but if you don't perform and execute, you're gonna get beat. And so where we are right now, we can't look past the Arizona State. Yeah there is three games that I buy, but it's all focused on Arizona State, and this is an important stretch and it's you know, we gotta we got to get the ship turned back around because it was a very disappointing loss against Arizona. The

Obviously, you like to have earlier games. I think you said you want four am games.

If you could, sure, let's go.

Yeah, when you have these late games, you know, a couple of weeks ago with the Arizona game, now you get this game with Airzon State. How do you keep guys or what do you do as a team to kind of help them kind of stay in the mode and not let the day just kind of get away from them.

Good question.

On game day when it is at late kick, we have first of all meetings. You know, there's some short not extensive, but short offense defensive meetings walk through. We have a flex period where they go and stretch out and stay loose. We got a nap period, you know, a designated nap block of time. There's you know, three

But that's that's a big part of it.

Kind of to shift focus to the red zone issues that you guys have had for the past two weeks. How much of that is not having CAM in the lineup versus just personnel and schematic struggles.

Yeah.

Cam's very good in the red zone historically, and so that's that's a part of it. And we're about twenty percent off what we need to be. It's not like we just absolutely are horrible. We're at fifty percent, which isn't good by any means. But seventy percent is our target. And if we can be seventy percent in the red zone, which we have been several years, then that's good production. And Cam would certainly you know, an experienced kiny like him.

The red zone.

Sam Lovitt was someone you guys looked at in the transfer portal. What'st it out about him in that time and what challenges does he pose to the defense.

His athleticism, he's a he's a true threat, dual threat. As I mentioned earlier. He's doing a good job with the QB run game for him. He's still really got and so his development is still you know, ahead of him. His efficiency rating right now is about one thirty three throwing the ball, so got some work to do there. And but you know, he's doing a really good job of doing what they're asking him to do, and they they're doing a really good job of making sure the

Let's go, Coach Wi Porter. It's not talked about enough how similar Kyle and I are. Nobody really that should be discussed more. I think around the mark we have a lot in common. I'm all gas, no breaks, You're you. Sometimes you're in the way, but I'm all in and Port. I want to say some of you today, we will not become you, you will become us. Go Yankees.

I mean I'm not joining the Yankees, nor nor am I. I'm trying to be a part of that particular group.

So the point is how similar Kyle and I are. That's the point.

Okay, you can see that right and listen.

In a lot of ways, I would love to be like Kyle Whittingham. That's not one of them, an LA guy cheering for the Yankees.

Come on, Kyle, what is the Do you have the origin story for Coach Witt being a Yankee fan?

I think it was a specific player. Maybe back in the day.

Something didn't know that until today, I should have known that he's I.

Do know that he's not a Dodgers fan because he was. He was in more of an Anaheim so he was like an Angels guy. But they were so bad that I think maybe he veered towards the like you say, a team that wins sometimes.

You know what, Maybe Kyle and I will FaceTime you this week when we're studying ASU film. Yeah, just a couple of Yankee I can a couple of Yankee fans that grind on tape. It's not a big deal. Just people should talk about it more.

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You, buddy, I'm doing good. How are you?

I'm well appreciate your time today. So let's just start as you are new to our fine city, our fine community, and we are thrilled to have you guys here, excited for tomorrow night. What have you learned about your new home? What have you learned about Salt Lake City and Utah and the folks that you've met so far.

I mean, it's beautiful. That's definitely the one thing that kind of jumps out. And I think the other one that's it's been really nice to notice is you know, the people. People are super nice. Everyone's been really welcoming and just around our neighborhood and you know, obviously around you know, the rink or where wherever we've kind of been, and you know, you can just sense the excitement that

We've had a couple of your teammates on the show for the past few weeks. I'm gonna ask you some of the same questions I asked them because we're all of us here. You saw in the market. We're trying to get to know you guys a little bit. So tell us about yourself, where you grew up, when you first started playing hockey, and the path that ultimately has landed you. Hear in Salt Lake.

Well, I'm from Finland. So I grew up in temperet there and I played there until I was fifteen. Then I went to the WHL. I played in Troy Cities for three years, got drafted to Calgary. I played there for multiple years, probably what three or four years, and then I got to Arizona two years ago and then spent two seasons with them and came over with the team to Utah. So that's kind of a short version. So I've been, uh, I'm being away from from my homeland,

While now you So I might be the thousandth person ask you this, but I honestly don't know. Are you familiar with Lowry Marketing? And have you made contact with with Lowry who obviously plays for the Jazz and is a as a finished gentleman just like yourself.

Yeah. Yeah, we've kind of met in in April when we came over here to visit, and we've stayed in touch ever since ever since that, and we've you know, seen each other a couple of times. We both have a have a family now, so the whole families have been kind of linked up a couple of times. We've done some things, and you know, they've been to help, you know, especially at the start, kind of showing around a little bit and telling what's where and kind of

Did you grow up playing any other sports or were you all hockey? All all the way or did you try other sports when you were younger as well.

I played soccer for like a summer. It wasn't really my sport, so I kind of stopped it pretty quickly. And I used to ski a lot. I know a lot of Utah people love love that, and a lot of good opportunities here to do so, so I used to do that a lot when other kids fortunately not really allowed to do it more, but excited to do that once I'm once I'm done at some point in

I've read that you have a family member that's a pro golfer. Do you ever swing a golf club? You like you got to play a little golf at all?

Yeah.

I play golf now, especially during the summer a lot.

I really enjoy it.

It's something that, you know, kind of makes me relaxed. One of those sports where you just kind of talking or thinking only only your next shot, and kind of the game of golf you kind of leave maybe the outside world behind. So I I really do enjoy it. And yeah, my cousin actually will be in that tournament and you playing for the PGA Tour, So that's that's pretty cool.

Are you gonna head down to Saint George and check it out at all?

I think that timing doesn't really work, you know, what's going on the road and stuff. So I wish I could, but I wish it was a little bit a little bit closer to even like an hour or two drive, then it would be kind of makeable. But it'll be too far with the schedule that we have. But maybe maybe another time. Hopefully one of these years we'll have a chance to do that. Kind of same thing happened last year in Arizona when he was playing at the

Yeah, I guess you're busy playing games and practicing because you're a professional athlete, So that's kind of how it goes. Hey, I wanted to I wanted to kind of kick the ties with you on the type of players that you are because you're a defenseman. You have really good size, but you you have in the past for Calgary and for the Arizona Coyotes scored goals and provided a lot of assists as well. So what sort of player for our new hockey fans? What sort of player are you?

One of those you know, kind of two way defensemens. I, you know, I really like playing with the puck. I like to, you know, get into the rush sometimes and make them make some plays. But I think I've established my game to the point where I consider myself as a you know, reliable on the defensive side as well. For a job is to keep the puck out of

So I wonder, because I've asked your teammates as well, this is really you So, as you know, an unprecedented thing in the history of professional hockey for a city like ours to be able to grab a team. It isn't an expansion team that has infrastructure in place. There just obviously was chaos down in Arizona. What was that process like for you when you got a phone call and you're like, hey, just so you know, you live in Utah. Now, what was what was that?

Like?

Yeah, I mean kind of at the start, it was, you know, a little bit of a shock in a way that it's just kind of happened so quickly, and it's like, you know, kind of a big decision like that, it's kind of made for you, Like it's like, hey, okay, well you guys are all moving to Utah. It's not like do you have a say in it or you have a choice to be made there. So obviously a

Col I wonder we've heard from Bill Armstrong over the weekend and Andre Torny, your head coach, about the decision to make Clayton Keller the first ever captain for the Utah Hockey Club. I guess down in Arizona there was not one captain. It was more of like leadership by committee. So give me the reaction to locker room that Clayton Keller has been named your captain. What can you tell us about that decision?

Yeah, I mean, you know, definitely, you know, well deserved. I think that's that's the guy who you know, we're happy to follow. And you know, he's definitely a great leader. He leads by example, He really cares about his teammates, who really cares about you know, winning and being at his best every night. And you know, I can be happier that you know he's your captain, and I think all of us kind of feel the same way. And and we're ready to go to war together and him leading us.

So big time edition of the offseason in your positional group with Sergachev being brought in Michel, Who's won a couple of Stanley Cups and still certainly is in the prime of his career. You so help me understand what this edition means and how it's been to well welcome him into your locker room and in your positional group.

Yeah, I mean it's been awesome. He's a great guy. Obviously knows I was probably hockey pretty well, you know, even though as he's reasonably young, I think he's got, you know, a lot of experience and like you mentioned, he's got some cups and a lot of playoff appearances and and all that, so that's valuable for us. There's a lot of a lot of from from our group from Arizona don't don't have much of experience there, so

So ultimately, there's a lot of rumor going around in the community about the permanent name of the team. I've got to ask you you, so, what is your favorite hypothetical name that you've heard thrown out there? And do you know what the what the team name is going to be when the death settle.

No, I don't.

I don't know anymore than than you guys do. So we're still in the guessing game game as well. But you know, honestly, I I kind of like the you know, all of them, and I don't think there's one kind of name that I want to throw out there. Take that as as whatever you kind of want. But I think it's when you look at the options. I think you can make all of them, you know, really good. You can put in a nice logo, you can make it with the colors, you can, you know, make a

There's not one favored that you like that you want to throw out there, there's not one that stands out.

No, I'm not gonna say mine, all.

Right, all right, just in case.

No, that's smart, that's smart. That's the way to go. Hey, we've been having this debate about who the rival club will be for you guys now regionally, Colorado seems to make sense. But they're really good and this is a new thing, and oftentimes rivalries kind of take place. I've always been of the opinion rivalries take place in playoff action or when they're really big games on the line, not just like regular season battles. Any thoughts on who the rival club will be for the Utah Hockey Club.

Yeah, I mean I think it'll be kind of dictator a little bit. How the games kind of start going, you know, the most heated matchups that we'll have against my might just kind of decide it for us. But but I think kind of realistically, Colorado, like you kind of said, make makes probably the most sense, you know, being kind of you know, close, and both of us we have a little bit of altitude on the air and like just kind of like similarities in that way.

So Bill Armstrong often talks about this this rebuild process that the club is going through and has gone through for a while, and you've been with the club. This will be your third year, so you've kind of experienced this rebuild. You were a part of it when you were acquired, as I believe a twenty two or a twenty three year old. So help us understand what the process you so has been like so far and what you guys believe the next steps are in this rebuild process.

H Yeah, I mean, it's uh, it's something that's a little bit you know different, I guess, you know, in the last couple of years, especially kind of during the trade deadline, you know, there's been a lot of deals. You know, we kind of dealt a lot of guys, and that's something that's you know, a little bit difficult and and and hard, and you're losing your teammates and and I you know, it's obviously we haven't you know, made playoffs or haven't like won you know, too many

Oh well said, yeah, you're a pro, You've done this before. That was an excellent answer you So I appreciate your time today, best of luck tomorrow, stay healthy, and we'd love to do it again.

All right, thank you so much.

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Okay, right on, good old Davis County people. Love my Davis County people. Okay, Ryan, let's dig in here. Hockey is here now, and you guys at Epic are obviously prepared want to remind folks, let folks know coming up tomorrow, I'm gonna be on remote at Epic. It's right on State Street. It's eight twenty five South State. Check out

Yeah, So this is a brand new beer from Epic.

It really it was Gus's brain shot when we found out the hockey team was coming here.

Gus is like, we got to do a hockey beer.

Yeah.

And one of the owners of Epic, also Peter, he still plays hockey. He's grew up playing hockey. He's still in like an old man like hockey league. So it really fits with Epic. But yeah, we've got a new beer. It's called Hipcheck Ice Imperial Lagger. It's a seven and a half percent Crystal Clear light lagger beer. You can definitely catch a buzz off of it. Great beer a pregame with. It's pretty simple. It's not a really really crafty beer. It's light it's easy drinking, it's crisp, it's

Yeah, crack it open. And also seven and a half percent is enough that you know what you're doing, but it's not too much where you're gonna be, you know, feeling it a little bit the next day. So you landed on a good percentage. Is that fair to say?

I'd say it's a pretty good number, but yeah, you can definitely it's a little bit stronger than your sure.

So so, Gus, what was the process like creating this new beer as far as the tie with hockey? Like what tell tell me the origin story, how you came up with the idea.

Yeah, I mean, actually, I was probably listening to you when I heard the news that we were getting the hockey team officially.

And we do a meeting every week.

We've got all spectrums of the brewery in their sales, brewers, sellerman, front house, back house, everybody's in there. And I said, hey, you guys, look look at the news. Look what's happening in Salt Lake. Let's do something to celebrate this. So yeah, from there, our head brewer took took the reins and decided that he wanted to roll with a lagger, something nice and easy drinking to go well with a with hockey.

So, honestly, I'm completely unfamiliar with the process. I've got a couple of buddies that are like amateurs, right, they get the home thing, they do the home brewery situation. Never really that good, but they try, they try hard. Right, what's the process start to finish? Like, take us through. What's it like to create a craft beer like this?

Yeah, clue, you probably no better than I.

Yeah, you know, Gus and I were both on the sales side of things, but really, I mean, first you come up with the concept, you know, like what kind of beer do you want? And for this, we wanted a beer there was a little bit stout, a little bit, but a little bit on the lighter side also, and I mean.

If you take a look at it, it's it's crystal clear.

It actually is probably one of like the lightest looking, like clearest we have, and it's yeah, it's definitely a true logger. And we wanted a beer that we thought maybe like old school hockey players would like to drink, okay, And we came up with this where it's a little bit stout, it's super light. You know, it drinks like a beer drinkers beer. I just kind of beer flavored beer, you know, Like, what do you think beer tastes?

Like?

Like it's this and we're really excited about it. I actually haven't really had a chance to like bring home a couple of cans of beer and really like snuggle up and dive into it.

I think tomorrow night I'll probably be that.

Well.

It's always interesting to me because it seems like and you guys are the experts, so I'm going to make an observation. You tell me if I'm wrong. It seems like there's this race to make the best IPA or the best like triple ipa, and sometimes it tastes like dish soap or like treat bark right, so.

Maybe more so your homebrewer friends, I feel like stuff a little.

Is that kind of the scene right now? It feels like IPAs have taken over the past five or six years. They've really kind of.

Oh yeah, you know, IPAs have taken over. There's kind of an evolution. I feel like to drinking beer. Though you start drinking beer, I don't know when you're younger, you drink really light beers. You kind of like graduate to drinking IPAs and dark stouts and things like that, and then as you like really mature into beer drinking, you kind of fall back to these light logger beers. There's a lot of nuances to them, and yeah, they're

Don't go back to going to seven getting the twenty four pack of like Natty Ice. Yeah, you don't really go back there.

No, you fall back to like the fans here, like the nighter, like you know, classic like logger beers.

Let me follow up with you, Ryan, because I mentioned this earlier. You guys have always from my vantage point, it's always It's always seemed to me you're at the forefront, right You're the first to figure out how to offer beer on Sunday. You're the first offer you know, an

I mean that's kind of what Epic Hell Epic started.

I mean, we wanted to be creative, we wanted to make beers you couldn't get in Utah. It's hard to remember, but ten fifteen years ago, I mean, there were some good breweries here you went to as your wassatch was here, but really as far as like craft beer came, was like, there wasn't a lot. And Epic came out and started making like really really creative beers, and then the breweries around here, I feel like, kind of up their game. And now there's like all sorts of breweries around here

And it's it's fun and it.

Does feel like I was in Denver last year and I always do the thing that we all do, like compare Salt Lake to Portland or Denver like cities in our region and Denver has a real thriving you know, that downtown area where there are breweries like next to each other, stacked on top of each other for like four or five blocks. Maybe we'll get there at some point. But how have you seen this scene kind of grow since you got involved in our marketplace? It's much different, isn't it?

Yeah?

Yeah, Oh it's amazing. How good, Like there's so many good breweries around here.

I mean, shot, got how many brewers you think there are within walking distance of like where we are now?

Like eight?

Yeah, there's there's probably at least eight, and I think there's two or three more if you include siders coming up as well.

So yeah, there's a lot.

It seems like there's a bunch down where like west, like little West, there's like a little.

Kind of southwest Salt Lake City. Yeah, there's breweries all over the place. It's great. I mean bike tours, walking tours, like you can hit a ton of breweries. It's almost better than Denver for what it is, you know, because they're they're consolidated into a into a smaller place. Yeah, I don't know. We like Salt Lake City better than Denver. You know, it's easy, sure, sure.

Sure, that's why. So Gus is Colorado? Is that going to be our rival? The Avalanche? That is the hockey club rival going to be the Avalanche?

Yeah, I think that's the go to rival. Yeah, that only makes sense.

They're really good this year though, right, they're always good as of late.

Yeah, for sure. All right, Ryan, tell me about you brought a couple of other Definitely check out Epic Brewing dot com. If you like beer in hockey, you're gonna love the new release. It's called Utah Hipcheck Ice Lagger. It's a seven point five percent Imperial lagger. But it doesn't taste like a seven point five percent. That's the other thing. Sometimes when the content's a little high. Yeah, take a sip and it's biting you right away. It

Super fair? This thing's real easy drinking, And that was kind of the point. We wanted something easy drink in there. Maybe you could catch a buzz off of it if you wanted to.

So the address is eight twenty five South State Street. I'm gonna be down there tomorrow from two to six. Come hang out. Prior to the hockey game. I'm going down to the hockey game after my remote, so come hang out, have a beer, and pick up a free hockey puck.

Ryan tell us about it. Yeah, we've got some epic branded hockey pucks. We're given away to anybody that stops by and comes in to hang out. Actually Wall supplies last. We don't have a ton of them, but.

Then they're cool. They got the epic logo and you know it is a hockey puck. So before I say you lose, tell me about these other other beers you brought in.

Yeah, we brought a couple of seasonal beers down. We have our Munich Mayhem october Fest beer. So it's not anything to see the label here, but it's kind of got like a German like punk rock theme. Very nice, super fun beer for the fall time. It's a logger beer. It's a little bit different from the hip check where it's a amber colored lagger, so it's got a little little bit more malt flavor to it.

And then Gus, we talk about the other beer we brought down.

Yeah, chair sure, Yeah, we brought our Imperial Pumpkin Porter as well. It's definitely porter first with the pumpkin and spice flavor coming in second. So it's not going to be like your Starbucks pumpkin spice latte. It's gonna be much more subtle. The pumpkin really compliments the porter base.

Very nice, very nice. All right, gentlemen, Well, thanks for coming in and I will see you both tomorrow to remode. Okay, all right, my guys Russ, Ryan and Gus excuse me for effort brewing. I'm gonna be down there tomorrow night, tomorrow afternoon before the hockey game at night. It's eight twenty five South State Street. Website is Epic Brewing dot com. It's a brand new beer. It's the Utah Hipcheck Ice Lagger. It's a seven point five percent Imperial Logger. Saints Chiefs

I'm doing wonderful. I felt like last weekends college football was Oprah Winfrey giving the top fifteen teams losses. You get a loss, and you get a loss, and you get a loss. It was like everyone who is important, including Alabama, loss this weekend. It's crazy weekend in college football.

Yes, certainly, and it feels like Scott, let's start with this from a macro standpoint, if we can look at this as good news for Utah fans, there will be multiple teams in the CFP that have multiple losses and not just one and two, maybe even three and four. With the way this stuff is going. Would you agree with that statement as of now?

Yeah, I mean it's weird because most of the conferences have, like, you know, sixteen teams, fourteen sixteen teams, and so they're not necessarily all playing each other. Maybe these teams are playing harder teams now because they know, hey, I can have a couple of losses and still make get in the college playoffs. Maybe it's nil. Maybe the talent is

So game week for the Utes, Friday night, it's a late kick fan duel has Utah's a six point five point favorite, even though they're on the road. The line opened up Utah minus five, and it's gone the way of the Utes a couple of different times. Let's start with this, though, Scott. Over the weekend, I talked to somebody up on campus and Coach wait just alluded to

Well, if that's the case, then this injury is much more significant than we think, and it hasn't appeared like it it is. Watching Cam he looked terrible warming up against Oklahoma State and looked better against Arizona. I would be really surprised if he doesn't play on Friday. He clearly, from experience, from ability, you know, gives Utah the best

At what point, Scott, in your opinion, to somebody who played the position, and you know, put yourself, I suppose in the shoes of both Cam and Isaac, at what point do you think the right time is to just give Isaac the job? Is it Friday? If Cam's not ready, do you still wait? I mean, part of me believes that whenever Cam's ready, he's got to be back on her center, even if that's not for another three or

Oh man, it's a hard you know, there's an argument that you know, you don't lose your job because of an injury. There's some coaches. Bill Belichick just went away from Drew Bledsoe, who was a phenomenal quarterback. I mean, he was one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL when he was benched for Tom Brady, who was kind of a seventh round nobody. And for a lot of time, I think a lot of people go, Okay, well, Drew Brett so when he comes back, is going to be

Here comes the most obvious statement in the history of sports talk radio. If you're a quarterback, you need a healthy hand. If you're a kicker, you need a healthy foot. So there it is. But Scott is somebody who played the position. Help us understand the mechanics of why it is so Allen Jane for Cameron to get the zip back with an injury like he has to his hands and his fingers.

Yeah. See, I've kind of gone the rounds with this. And you know, some guys have shoulder injuries or other injuries and and you know, separations and they're able to play. I had. I had a third degree shoulder separation on my throwing shoulder when I was playing for the Miami Dolphins. And I came back after five weeks and my arm was a rag. But I was like, I don't care.

So ultimately, as you know, you can't simulate a game, right And so if if Cameron's cleared, are you expecting some Russ to start? Does he have enough experience under his belt that he should be good to go, or you know, after taking a few weeks, not taking a few weeks, after missing a few weeks via injury. What's a reasonable expectation for Cam should he be under center on Friday night?

Well, Cam, Cam's game has always been he's mobile. He makes a lot of plays with his legs, and that's that's the biggest thing that's you know, you just don't have. You just don't have game shape. You know, there's there's a thing they just called it. He's in game shape. You may be in physical great condition, but there's a different condition to a game. And the only way you

So Scott, it's safe to say, and the data says as much that the offense you know, with Isaac has just has it hasn't been good enough. And of course it's not all on him, and it's hard to put any of it on such a young kid who enrolled in April. But one hundred and eleventh in red zone, one hundred and thirteenth and third down conversion? Are these

You know one of the things, well, let's just take the red zone to start with. The red zone is easier to score the further you're out, So maybe from like the twenty to the maybe the twelve, take your shot in the end zone because they still have to cover the field and it's easier to get those throws into the end zone. It's one way and we used to do it all the time in the NFL, and there's certain coverages you can almost predict to be one

So, if it is Isaac on Friday, what sort of game plan are we expecting. You've talked a lot during this interview about just stick to your identity and commit one way or the other. Are we going to see Coach Love maybe continue to give Isaac more space? Do you look at what happened against Arizona and reel the playbook back to simplify it, to maybe just run the football more and look like a football team? Who's head coaches Kyle Whittingham. If it is Isaac on Friday, what

So usually in bye weeks you kind of look and you go, who are we? What's our identity? Who? What are we known for? We're tough, We're physical, we're going to run the football, and I would I would anticipate that's what Utah's You know, we've got to stop the run. Arizona State it's a very good run team, So you got to stop the run. You got to run the football, and that that's that's where it's going to focus. And so everything offensively plays off of the run, and that

Tell me what you've seen from Isaac when he throws his ironts. Because statistically, one hundred and thirteen FBS quarterbacks have less than seven picks. Isaac is right there when it comes to the national rankings with seven interceptions. It's never on one person or the other. Are you seeing bad decisions? Are you seeing broken routes? Are you seeing a rushed young quarterback?

What?

Scott, from your trained eye do you see when Isaac throws the picks?

So a lot of it is you predetermined in your head where you're going. You've practices play all week in practice, and you've just always thrown it to this guy and for whatever reason, the defense and you just don't have enough game experience to know, well, they changed the coverage on you. So you've got to see what they've changed and you've got to adjust accordingly. And so a lot of the throws, a lot of the interceptions have been kind of uh, he's predetermined in his head where he's

All right, Scott, before I say you lose, the Arizona narrative leading into the game last Saturday was they wanted to make it a get right game after getting trounced by k State. They had to buy and then they rolled into Rye cycles and they had to get right game. In the Scott Mitchell opinion, a get right game for Utah on Friday night looks like what.

Well, you know, when you have a bye week, sometimes you go, oh, we don't want to have a bye week because we'reun a roll. In another case like what happened to Utah. Now we need a bye week so we can get back into rhythm. And I'm going to go back to what I said earlier that a get right game for Utah. Stopping the run and running the football and everything else. This has been a Kyle Whittingham staple. I swear he says it to himself every night before he goes to bed and when he wakes up in

So are we talking double digit win? Are we talking cover the spread? Are we talking get the hell out of Dodge with a win? What does it look like Friday?

Well, it's always you know, win. But you've got to be explosive offensively in this league, in college football in general, the rules, the way everything is. If you can't score thirty points in a game, I don't believe Utah's defense is is dominant enough to just hold people down and win those close ones. So you got to you gotta score if you score thirty points. So you can still run the football and score thirty points. It's not five.

Mike drop from Scott, little dialtne action. It's all good. It's all good. We got to get a break anyway. Appreciate Scott's time. Utah football is back this week. Our pregame coverage on Friday will begin at four thirty, so it'll make our show here on the afternoon a little short. Then Porter will take care of you. Up to Up to Kick with Bill, Scott and Sly live in Tempe, Utaie six point five point favorite as of now, that line's moved a couple of times. Eight thirty is your

Doing great?

Ben?

How are you?

I'm well, I'm well, so simple first question, are you guys ready? As I told you a few months back, I had the very very fortunate opportunity to play the track and check out the resort, And as I walked into the makeshift club house you guys had in the trailer, there's a sign that said don't worry, We'll be ready or something like that. So now that it's here, are we ready to roll? Patrick?

We are rolling. We had the Monday pro am today and I talked to I.

Don't know thirty forty of the players that that have been out on the course, and I think the most common words out of their.

Mouth is I had no idea, meaning that the resort is just unbelievably nice. The course is an unbelievable shape.

I even sent some photos, aerial photos off to the PGA tour and they said they didn't believe they were real.

Yeah, and I can believe that even if. Yes, someone who's lived in the state for twenty five years, I've never quite seen anything like it. So now we know the field. The field has been released, we were waiting for quite some time to try to figure out who we were going to see down in Saint George for

Well, I mean, I we didn't do a whole lot other than we you know, we had Mike Weir and Zach Blair and Patrick Fishburne and some other guys that were out really telling everybody, hey, this is this is a no joke.

This is like a.

World class golf course. And but we didn't do a whole lot more. The folk we wanted to accomplish in this first year is going to get a great field, which we have, but then really just show the world how beautiful this area is, how fantastic the course is, what a game change of a resort, Black Desert Resort is. And then like I'm going, Tim West is like the player whisperer, and he was out there today and he just said, Patrick, this is this is the nicest place I've seen, Like it is the best.

He's like, these guys are talking in you know, I was talking to him yet last night and player dining and he's like, they're all whispering, Like we had no idea this was gonna So that's all we want to accomplish is how these guys have a great time, treat him, treat him really well, and then in year two, let they're like pack in a great field. This year we're gonna have We're gonna have a great time.

We have a great field. We're just gonna build upon it.

I wonder I know a lot of people up here, and every time I would talk about it on the show, get a lot of messages like, is there any chance Tony's gonna play? Can well Tony fen out play? He's not in the field, Patrick, Can you shed some light on any potential conversations that took place. Where was there a chance that we were gonna see Tony this week? Down there?

There was a chance he was trying to work some things I've been really I gotta I gotta take my hat off to him. In the end, he had promised Drace, his son, who's going to be playing in his first national tournament. The same week as our tournament, and he's capping. He's the captain, and so he's just like Patrick, I can move all the other things, but I just can't tell my son, never mind, I'm not going to captain your first your first national tournament.

Well, that's entirely understandable, and as you know, that's completely on brand for who Tony is, right, absolutely, yeah, all right, So a really cool story. And you know, a couple of our local TV stations went down to interview jay Don Blake, and I can't imagine Patrick, what it must be like for a Saint George boy to start his five hundredth PGA Tour tournaments in his own backyard. I mean, he was crying when he received the news he was

Yeah, this is the type of stuff you can't even make it up. Like you said, he grew up as a little boy here playing in the parks because he couldn't afford the golf course, and his mom drove him around to tournaments eventually, and they slept in their car and got cleaned up in gas stations, and you know, as you know, he became an incredible golfer and four hundred and ninety nine tour starts is just an amazing accomplishment.

Whole One, Patrick, I have the forecast pulled up for this week, and just so you know a little breaking news, it's gonna be warm. It is going to be very hot down there. Yeah, I wonder what sure? Sure? And you know, like ultimately we're gonna blink and there's gonna be snow up here and it's not gonna be as warm down there. That's the deal. But are there any unique challenges that the heat brings for you guys this week as you're putting on this tournament.

Uh no, not really.

I mean.

We're unfortunately having to overwater a little bit early on, so the greens have gotten they slowed up a little bit, but we're gonna turn the water off and firm them up. And it was just a little bit more, a little bit more work, but no big deal.

So enlighten me on because we've been talking about this a little bit. Do you have a five year commitment from the tour?

What?

Obviously it's great to have it this year, but it's not going anywhere for a while. Is that correct?

That's correct?

Yeah, we we intend. When I say we, I'll stand the PJ Tour intend to do this like for decades. However, we have to have a contract term. The contract term to begin with four years. They were willing to go seven to start with. It's kind of a long story. We didn't want they didn't want to change title sponsors during a contract term, and we didn't want to commit

So what have you learned throughout this process? You know? So moving forward over the next three years, I'm not going to say you can do it better because I don't know how you're going to do it. We're going to find out this week. But you know, the first time you do anything, it's hard. First time I sat in front of a microphone. I'm sure I was horrible at this. Some people probably tell you I'm still bad at it. But the first time you do something, it's

You know.

I got to say we are really fortunate. We have an amazing tournament director, John Coolbaugh. We have an amazing set of consultants that run every year for the last ten twelve years the Farmer's Insurance Open at Tory Pines. Their whole team is here, and we have a lot of supportive people who have been doing this for years and years at the highest level.

And so I feel like we're pretty dialed in year one. I think the PJ Tour said this is looking like a year three tournament. In year one, so good job, and so I think everything's pretty smooth, but we're gonna find out there might be a few hiccups. And I can probably answer that question better post mortem than I can before the tournament gets going.

For sure. I don't suppose you'd be so bold this to give me your pick to win the thing, will you?

I don't mind doing that.

I'll roll out Patrick Fishburn.

Ah, Patrick Fishburn, very nice, very nice. Well, Hey, I appreciate the time. Anything else you want our listeners to know, Patrick before I set you loose.

Oh one more story I think a juxtaposition to Jayden Blake getting his five hundreds. We have Key Akina that's in the field as a sponsor exemption, and I.

Love this story.

He's eighteen years old at Lone Peak High School. He's a number seventh ranked junior in the world. And I was sitting with he and his dad Alan over lunch and I said, I said, Key, how many PGA tournaments have you been to? And his dad then and said, he has been begging me to take him to a PGA tournament since he was five years old, and I pulled him every single year at KYA. The first time you go to a PGA tournament. You'll be playing in it?

Oh that rules. That rules well obviously for me as somebody who's really learned to love this game. I'm thrilled for you guys and appreciate the efforts to bring PGA Tour golf back to the state. Wish I could be down there. My day job calls. Maybe one day I'll have more control over my time, but I appreciate your time. Patrick, good luck this week.

Okay, thank you so much.

All right, Patrick Manning and the managing partner. As the Black Desert Championship descends upon Saint George. The Black Desert Resort starts on Thursday, rolls through Sunday, marks the return of the PGA Tour to Utah for the first time in more than sixty years. Tickets are available at Black Desert Events dot Com. You can also follow them on Instagram at Black Desert Championship is where you find them. Dissidents, Right, I get it right, there we go. See, I'm a

I want to say whom, but I don't know if it's correct because it's the it's a band.

It's not like a.

Single either way. You get the Larry Christovac too, Larry Kuskovac, great basketball, Larry Quinn.

Me.

Who else is a Pearl Jam?

Yeah? Great basketball minds and enjoy Pearl Jam. Yeah, it was a tree over there, Like you can walk into the jazz practice facility there were jamming. Look, Quinn is from outside of Seattle.

Right, And that's the Larry connection as well. I believe he knows one of those guys like really well, it grew up with him from childhood.

So there's the connection.

Well, the only thing you need to know is my fantasy football team is about to go in five. Yeah, it's bad. It's a bad scene and I'm like, I built a dynasty. I usually win the league or finished top three, and I might not make the playoffs this year.

Every empire falls at one point.

But well said, this is kind of like the Pats falling. I've been, you know, the Belichick Brady Pats in this league. Right now, I'm the Jets.

It's bad speaking of the Jets.

No, no, no, we don't need to do anything about the Jets today. No, what do you want us to? Go ahead? Your Cowboys got a lucky win, so go ahead and say something about that.

I think the Jets start Tyrod.

I like Tyrod Taylor. I always have and I'm not a fan of throw a Rogan. He's done, it's over.

I know I'm being somewhat facetious there. You don't turn away from Rogers right now, but yeah, I've I've been very consistent on the fact that you're turning towards a.

Forty year old who he's forty. I'll just leave it at that.

My team.

That's enough.

Pooka and Nakua Toua Tongua Baila for she Rice, Joe Mixon. I could keep going.

You built a team that should have been fairly good, but that's how football happens, as we saw last year with the youths.

My first overall pick number Nobody gives a rip about this, but it's making me sad and this is a safe space, so I have to let it go. My first pick was Tyreek Hill. I wanted the compound to a Tyreek relationship to it goes down. Tyreek has been horrible, Pook has hurt, Nixon's missed a couple of weeks. I started tray sermon this week and I believe cam Akers and they both scored touchdowns, because that's you know, when you like we were talking earlier coach with Yankee Fan, great

And what's the percentage you think on starting zero to five and then getting to the postseason?

Not high, it's low, It's very low. I don't have the data in front of me. Maybe we'll get our PFF guys on it, but I'm I'm in serious trouble. And missing the playoffs makes you really sad when everyone else is, you know, in the playoffs going back and forth.

Especially the NFL, like half the league makes the playoffs.

Now I don't. You don't have to rub it in, but yes, we have a ten team league and eight teams make the playoffs. And I may be out. I may be one of the two teams that doesn't make the playoffs.

You may sneak in at that point. I don't know if your roster holds up at the end.

We shall see, we shall see, right, Monday Night Football comes away coming up next, should be a good one. Kansas City's a five point favorite over New Orleans in the in arrowhead, so she'd be a good one. You have playoff baseball tonight. Me and coach Witt will be chairing for our Yankees. Texting back and forth about ASU film. It's not a big deal. It's my Monday Night Porter. What comes our way? On a Tuesday show.

On a Tuesday edition of the program, Pablo mastro any coming off of a weekend where oursel did get a few points. Spencer Hall stops by the program, of course, talking some college football with him. We'll give you our big twelve power poll. John Wright, of course, talking some PGA tour. We're gonna have a golf guest almost every day, maybe every day this week, depending on how it fills out. And then of course Dave Fox joins us on a Tuesday.

Two pelotons too. I means I will be down at the Delta Center tonight for the Utah Hockey Club Chicago Blackhawks game. We are going to do five questions with Spence from the arena. So excited for that. Come join me at Epic tomorrow on State Street for our remote and then have a couple of beverages. If that's not your thing, grab some food, come hang out, then walk over to the game with us. We're going to go see history in Salt Lake City tomorrow night. That'll do