Draft Show: Who are the Top 5 Players?

As the NFL Draft is just seventy days away. That leaves us the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show just seventy days to investigate and educate all of those listening out there. We're glad you're joining us again here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios in Frisco at the Star. Jeff Cavanaugh, mister Kevin Turner, I'm Kyle Yeoman's without David Hellman today, an empty head said often to the riot. That's unfortunate, as mister Hellman is down in the motherland of New

Orleans at the moment, had a fun time. Yeah, he's he's living the rough life at the moment. That is tough. It's tough. I don't know how they're going to get through that. Put in a request to get him hologrammed in, but they didn't have it in the budget. So that's fine. We'll get it next time. We'll talk to Scott about that. We'll pick up the slack for Dave, who's probably partying right now. It is only eleven o'clock, I mean new Yeah, that's also they've been going for three hours. That's fair,

they've they've been up since eight ready to work. But so if we were ready to get diving into the NFL Draft, it's crazy that we're now ten weeks away from the draft that'll kick off on April twenty third in Las Vegas, Nevada, down on the Strip. And well, guys, we pride ourselves as a show of not just talking

Dallas Cowboys and the Cowboys draft needs. We talk about the entirety of the NFL Draft, And I know recently, at least through the first five shows that we've had, we've talked a lot of Cowboys just because of the question marks and the needs that are there as an organization. But I feel like today we're going to do a good job of talking generalities in the draft and wanted to kind of start things off by talking about our top fives in these positions. And I feel like we've

started seeing these pop up, these articles. I mean, Bucky Brooks put out a top five this past week, Daitas have two at the time about that, which is crazy. Dame Brugler had a top ten list of positions by a week, and a lot of those kind of shook up what I was thinking, and it kind of got the wheels turning a little bit as to what exactly are the top fives out there? What if our boards look like as a whole. And I feel like, Katie, I know you texted in our group text throughout the

week you were kind of thinking the same thing. Kind of got the wheels turning a little bit. It is, and I try really hard to I don't. I don't like to avoid that stuff because it is content. But when I see it, I just don't change what I feel. But don't go change your board based on what you see. You know someone else thinks. So if you disagree with Dane or whoever, Daniel, Jeremiah or Jeff, then that's okay. You don't want to disagree with me, buddy, it's fine.

That's dangerous, but it is. It does make you start going, okay, it is as you get a little closer, it really does make you start thinking twice and maybe looking at your notes again, or maybe watching tape again on someone who you might not have been sure on the first time or second time, and then it makes you kind of get your stack going a little bit better, and that just get you gives you those feelings, hey, we're

getting a litt closer. So I started like pinning down some of these positions and once you do start stacking them up a little bit better on your board, and then kind of re read some of the notes that I had on them and just kind of refreshing myself on the players, I started going, yeah, I feel much better about things than I did a month ago. Yeah. We were talking about it, and it's crazy because when you think about the Cowboys specifically in all of these

NFL organizations, it's gonna be ever changing. I mean, even right now, our top fives at the moment are prior to the combine. I mean, the combine isn't even here. And then even after the combine, we're gonna go into pro days, and I take more out of the Senior Bowl and Shrine Bowl for some of these guys, and then I do the combine. I mean, the combine is fun, but combined is more about a lot of times accurate measurements.

Sometimes there's a few drills and athleticism. But I really take more out of the Senior Bowl than I do the combine. At least I get more excited for the Senior Bowl than I do the combine combine. The worst thing about the combine, Kyle, is that all of our corners end up getting in trouble. If they're listed at six foot, they're about to be five to eleven. Hand if they're listed at five to eleven, they're about to be five nine antoine or antoine. Winfield's gonna turn around

and be about five eight. We're gonna go five o nine six five nine and three quarters. Get ready for can wide receivers get in trouble now for being too tall. Now I have a pretty good handle on how this works. If a guy's listed at sixty three, he is sixty three. That's the line. If a guy's listed at six two, he's six one. He's listened at six twenty six foot and on and on and on, but it's sixty three. They'll let you be your real height on a school's website.

What about above that. They'll keep you at the regular because they don't want to go too big, okay, you know, because you'll get creeped out if they're like, hey, this receiver is six foot eleven, They're like, now he's sixty three. Yeah, yeah, they want you. They wanted to be normal. They don't want them to be kind of a freak of nature

in that regard. Well, with all of that being said, and with the in the spirit of building boards and arguing back and forth, word we might get a chance to argue with Jeff Cavanar because I put together all these graphics and there was not a single top five out of these five positions that we're about to run through that was the same. That's the beauty of the same. I mean, that's twenty five different scenarios we're about to pull up. I'm looking at my own and I don't

like it. And we've we've got all these scenarios. Let's start with safety. In our positional top fives, these are from US three. At the moment, we'll get Dave involved with this at some point. Whenever we get to some of these other positions, we're gonna start with Kat and the safeties that Kat has pulled up at the moment. And it's interesting to look at your board starting off with Grant Delpit, and that's the name that's been out there for the Cowboys really since day one. I feel

really great about my top five safeties. Delp It is to me. And I saw Jeff retweeted something today of this mock draft roundup for the Cowboys who pick at seventeen, and like five of the six mock drafts had Xavier McKinney, and I just don't have Xavier McKinney in that top twenty range. Wow. I just and I do have Delpit there. And if delp It goes at twenty five, that's fine, But you know, seventeen is probably about that fifteen to twenty five range is kind of the good spot for

him in the draft. I think it's not even close. When I look at that safety group, I just don't think Xavier McKinney is that close. I don't have questions about Grant and Delpot covering people. I do have questions about Xavier McKinney covering people. Okay, now the questions about Grant and Delpot tackling people, that's fine. Miss twenty five percent of his tackle attempts issue, Okay, we know that he was hurt. Okay, and that goes back to but

in twenty eighteen he was fine. He wasn't missing those tackles. In twenty eighteen he miss said twenty He missed twenty percent of his tackles. You watch tape and it's not as bad eighteen, But he had a lot better tape in twenty eighteen. The miss tackles are a thing. How many guy to safety but the miss tackles her a thing? Oh? How many guys over the years have we seen though, have a year when it's their final year when they can declare to go to the NFL Draft, and it's

not as good as the year before. Now it's because they got more attention and teams were gay planning for him? Or is it because sometimes you're making business decisions and things like that. I don't know. I don't know, And maybe we need to find out more about Delpot. Maybe that's the big thing you can take out of the combine is team's interviewing. Well, I think I think those two right there. We'll take a look at at Jeff's safeties in his top five safeties, but I think it's

really those two at the top. And I think all three of us had Delpin and McKinney as the top two safeties. But is there a disconnect from the guys after that though, and why is there such a big disconnect? I don't know. I think I don't think it's a huge disconnect between them and Winfield or Davis. No, I don't think it's huge. I don't think it's huge. I mean,

to me, Winfield and McKinney are very close. Yeah, for me personally, I mean, and we're talking about size and a little bit of durability issues with Winfield that's keeping him from that. I mean, who are you guys comfortable with Zavian McKinney covering coach well enough with his back to the ball. No, No, but you know that probably won't happen much because you're playing him as a strong safe here, tight ends, running backs. Yeah, things like that.

I'm comfortable with him, but I'm with you, he's not. He's not my top guy, grand help. It is my top guy. Well, let's look at at Jeff's top five safeties overall, and oh man, it is up at the top, and oh wow, Yeah, that's why are we highlighting stuff? Highlights the reason why I highlighted that, why you got burgess of four there, burgess of Utah. All right, I'm just gonna read you. I'm just gonna verbe him read

the notes. Okay, go for it. He plays as a three deep safety, plays some man from slot, good athleticism to catch up if he's ever beat, can run down drags even if he's behind on the coverage, dependable low tackle or Everything about him is very smooth, natural mover, understanding of zone concepts, covers running backs, blitzes, plays more nickel corner than safety, nice change of direction, plays with the motor that doesn't cool down, so calm and such

a fluid mover while five routes are happening around him. A touch undersized, but good player. Did see him fall off a tackle against USC. I like him. I like the coverage aspect at safety. I think the coverage aspect is so so so important. And I'll probably be the lowest guy on Ashton Davis and I like him but I don't know. I just watching the Burgess film at Utah.

He was just a guy that I really really liked because I think that you can trust him to cover, you can trust him to tackle, not necessarily as a powerful finisher, but a guy that's gonna get people to the ground. And I just love his ability to cover. So you're comfortable taking in the second round at pick fifty one? Are you comfortable taking Trill Burgess? I got him as a two three, okay, so he probably wouldn't be my best player available. Are you comfortable taking Ashton Davis? There?

Got him as a two three, So I'm going to be the Ashton Davis hater and it's gonna make me go back. I've done two games of Davis and I'll probably do four or five because I want to be by the time we get there more confident in the order. And I knew that would surprise people. But when I watched him, that was the guy I felt better about. And one of the things about Burgess is that he's

not on a ton of radars now. He was talked about because he was at the Senior Bowl and he performed well over the course of the week in Mobile but one thing that I like about him, and that's one of the reasons why I highlighted him, because I feel like this is a guy we can talk about of being in that first three rounds as a legitimate starting contender at safety. He's not afraid to step up and plug a gap when needed. Yeah, and I like that he plays downhill. He's a solid tackler from the

get go. More of a more of a strong safety, I guess than free is where I would see him at overall. But I like him as as a safety. Now I don't have him in my top five. My top five goes McKinney first. And I was ready to kind of argue I told you about it, but I feel much better after you throughout the stat because I didn't know the twenty eighteen stat, the twenty percent of miss tackles, I didn't know that. I knew it and know it by watching the exactly pay seventeen miss grand

up at missed eight tackles twenty eighteen. He miss sixteen tackles twenty nineteen. He miss twenty tackles, so just four plus this year. And that's where the difference has been made in terms of let's miss some tackles, but hey, I'm here to go get the ball. I also have Kyle Dugger in my top four as well. We should talk about Kyle Dugger from Lenore Rhyne, which is a

Division two school. I also went leap of faith based on Senior Bowl, based on YouTube, like three games on YouTube, based on clips that you can find if you just go search the internet. But I ain't my film database. I don't even have any Lenoor Ryan games couple. If you want go on leap of faith on this guy and until And that's why I'm glad Jeff brought up Terrell Burgess of Utah and their names. A guy that's

left off your list to Texas Brandon Jones. And there are a few other guys you know at safety who might make a little sense a little bit further down the road. But to me, I do think it's a clear top three, at least at Delpitt, McKinney and Winfield. However you want to order that. I a lot of people have Davis in that top three instead of Winfield and at the beginning, and I don't think that anymore.

I think Winfield's better. I understand it because you do see it with Ashton Davis sometimes, Like you see that he can instinctually be ahead of the play a little bit. Yeah, and that's what kind of excites me. What worries me about him, Like what I really like about Winfield is that he is stout, And what I really don't like about Ashton Davis is he's got kind of an eel Like he does heel like an eel, an eel slippery. Yeah, I'm telling you, his chest is small. It's really crazy.

And I've seen him with his shirt off or anything, but I just like, look at his frame. You go, oh, man, I need to pack on a little bit there. Kind of going back to Kyle Dugger of Lenore Ryan as well, But this is a guy who was named the best defensive player in the Vision two, but he only played just seven games this year due to a little bit of an injury issue. Now business decision. It was a

business decision. At the same time, he goes to the Combine and after making some people look a little silly on film throughout the year a D two, he goes or not to the Combine. He goes to the Senior Bowl rather, and he was able to show out one of the best safeties, if not the best safety in mobile and that's why I kind of have him in my top four as well. You can find Division two players that okay, so the tape's not gonna be readily available.

I played at Abilene Christian in O four and oh five, and I played with a guy named Danielle Manning who ended up being a ten year starter in the league. He was picked in the second round by the Chicago Bears, and you knew it. On the practice field, you knew it, and the games, you knew it. Just because they're Division two doesn't mean they can't go in the first two or three rounds and be ballers in the nflgitimate NFL talent, and that's one of the reasons why I have him

up there in my top four. Let's stick with secondary. Go into corner, all right, I'll start this one out. We'll go the reverse order this time. But all three of our top corners are the same, and it's really no doubt about it. It's Jeffrey Okuda from Ohio State. What a guy I mean. And then once we go from two to five, that's where we start to differ a little bit. Christian killed him this second one. I've also got Jeff Gladdeney at five. I like what gladdene

brings to the table. From TCU Christian Fulton at las, who's my second best corner on the board at the moment, I like it. I like, uh, well, I'll say, I like the order of your first two, okay, and then you want to switch it up after that not a little bit. But I know that you know that's that's a list that I think is standard. And I don't mean that as a positive or negative. I just feel like that's sort of the order that I've kind of

seen guys in from different people. We put a lot of faith in with Dane does and you know a lot of other people. My order will be a little bit different. But I also think that it's a really good cornerback class. Yeah, we've talked a lot about Oh, the receiver group is really deep and the offensive tackle a corner to me so far watching tapes up there, I've got eight guys in the first two rounds and there could be more. So I don't have Trevon Diggs in my top five, okay, I have I have Faulton

is my second guy. CJ. Henderson at Florida is the third guy, Jeff Gladney at TCU, and then Damon Arnett Ohio State is my kind of slept on guy that I really like. I watched him, I studied him the other day and Arnett watch him play Clemson. Yeah, they were going to Okuda, they weren't going at Arnett, and I just I love his ability to play cover three,

to play man defense, uh, stickiness and coverage aggressive. I just I think that that Arnett's a really good player that's not talked about enough and does this signs kind of bother you a little bit. He's a little small. He's listened at five to eleven Coyle, Yeah, five eleven on, which means he's probably five o nine seven. But yeah, I think that's that's and that's part of why I didn't give him a first round grade, because I think his tape you could put him in the first round.

I think the size, but the way he competes for a football in the air that's not affected. You know, he's going up knocking away balls intended for t Higgins. He's not afraid to play with big receivers and play the catchpoint, gets his head around, plays the ball in the air. I'm a fan of Damon Arnett, little grabby when you go on the inside routes. Yeah, but cover

three press man, I like him. He got a lot of targets too, because you know they had Sewn Wade, who I thought Sean Wade was going to declare for the drafted Ohio State and just secondary Okuda, you know, so he's gonna get a little bit of action. Um, I don't have him as highly grated as you, but I do like Dave Narnette, and I've got him kind of a little bit further time. I've got him at seven. So I'm right outside and talk my cornerback nine. Um

for me, it's Okuda of Ohio State. My uh, this is the one that I think people are killing me for right now. Jeff Gladney of TCU as my second ranked corner. Well, I don't think you're alone there. I do like the Jeff's being so high. This is great, that's true. You got some Jeffrey. This is out the standings. Yeah. CJ. Henderson of Florida. I absolutely love Christian Fulton of LSU. And then my fifth corner of Trevon Diggs of Alabama. But we can start to talk about Cameron Danceler from

Mississippi State. That's my seventh corner. I like him a lot. His tape against LSU is incredible. Cameron dan Jamar Chase could not get open on Cameron Danzler, which is saying something could Chase got open on everybody? Yeah. With Gladney and he's this is where combine could be huge for him. Now he may go run a four three something, but I'm not sure that matters as much. His speed is evident on tape. You don't worry about his speed. I

have him measured at five ten, one eighty three. Now I don't know that was that was in the spring. I've seen guys. I watched some defensive tackles last night who were like thirty pounds more at the Shrine game than they were listed in the spring. It's like, okay, they were transitioned inside. With Gladney five ten, is he gonna be five to eleven? His size will absolutely matter.

But I do think he plays pretty tough on the outside, and I think, aside from Okuda, I think he's the second best mirror corner in this draft in terms of just turning your hips and running with someone. I want to take this really quickly. If the Cowboys pick at seventeen and they don't move around, we're sticking and picking at seventeen. How many of the corners on your list would you be comfortable going, Oh, those a good pick

at seventeen, like high fiving pick or just a solid pick. Sure, let's say how many are a high five and how many are a solid pick. I have three that I would say, you know what, I have two that I would say five, yeah, okay, I have one high five, and then two where I'd go okay, and then I'm ruling out Okuda too. Okay, I'm not ruling yeah, he actually want to make it like Fulton or Henderson, I would go okay, and then like Henderson there too anybody

else and I'd be like, yeah, you could have moved back. See, I'm not feeling the same way you are about gladdening out of TCU though. Kat Yeah, Like I like him and he's number five on my list. But at the same time, if he would to be picked by the Cowboys at seventeen, I'm not high fiving anybody. Well, I've got a little nugget for you. In the second segment about him that might a little give you a little that the Cowboys are gonna have a good chance to

to spend some time with him. So that'll be that'll be something a little bit of a look ahead. I like it. Let's go one more position before we take our first break, and we're gonna go to the offensive side of the ball. This will be fun tight ends. Okay, We've got plenty of tight end differences, and of course this is a class that I mean, I even tweeted about it this week. I'm not very high on this tight end class, but I think there are a couple

guys that could be difference makers. We're gonna start with Kat's top five in terms of tight ends in the draft at the moment now, I thought yours was interesting because right up there at the top, you've got mister Notre Dame Cole Comet up there, and that was kind of interesting to me because he was on Jeff and I's list, but he was a little bit further down. Yeah, I just think you're getting a guy who's super pro

ready right now. Forty three catches last year, which is, you know, not anything huge or anything, but the soft hands really stand out. He looks very comfortable. It's like he's catching an infant every time a football is thrown at him. Catching an infant. Yeah, we've got an eel and we've got catching an infant. I mean that's why kat if ever release as a draft guide five grand awesome because the references will be hilarious. I think, look, he's not gonna blow you away with his speed or

anything like that, but I think he gives you. I think he's a safe pick. And again, I don't have a first round graded tight end, but I think he does enough to get down the seams. His athleticism you're probably gonna question at times, but it's just enough as a blocker in line to just kind of get through it. Now. Again, I'm not excited about cole Comet because my tight end one would not take him at seventeen, would love to

have him at fifty one. But you know, I do think you're getting a guy who is ready to go immediately. And we've seen a lot of second round tied ends in the past. I would say with the Bears and Adam Sheheen and that workout man at Gaviness, if I took cole Comet in the same range as those guys went. I would feel so good about it because I do think he's ready to contribute. Is he gonna be Ertz or Kelsey or Kittle? No, I don't probably. I don't know if the athleticism is there, but I do think

he can be a threat immediately. I don't think any of us have a Round one graded tight end, do you, Jeff, I do not. I didn't think. So let's take a look at yours really quickly. In your top five. But man, once again it's comment down at the bottom. But you got Harrison Bryan at Fau, Hunter Bryant Washington troutman of Dayton, and then Bryson Hopkins would produe. Yeah, as you can tell here, you know, I just I don't like having differences from Kati because being judged and or shamed or

my two greatest fears. It's pretty rough. As you can tell. My top two guys are more of your big slot players, Harrison Bryant, Hunter Bryant, and they're also the guys with the really big production numbers Harrison Bryan, Hunter Bryan. I

think both were over nine hundred yards. Harrison is actually the one that I liked better and I may be alone on having him as tight end number one, but he was over a thousand yards last year, huge production, love the speed, he'd love the balance, big threat, slot fades, outs, corners, crossers. He didn't have a couple of drops against UAB. He also made a circus catch in that game. Yes, then he caught a short crosser and got destroyed and didn't mind.

Still made a hands catch, ran over a guy against UTSA. It's weird because he doesn't really get his body down for the contact, but he's just naturally strong enough to kind of bounce off guys. Some fenders just bounce off of him, kind of what it looks like. Yeah, you can kind of toss guys around. So I like Harrison Bryant as my top guy, Like Hunter Bryan is my second guy, and then Troutman at Dayton is my third guy. And like I'll readily admit that cole Cometta think today

would be a better NFL player with Troutman. You're looking at Oh, he's a freak. Yeah. I think he's a really big, strong, tough I don't think he really knows what he's doing, But I think somebody will pick Adam Troutman second fifty with a wingspan of almost seventy eight inches and then not even that, but he's athletic at the same time, and he can run. Yeah, I do worry a little bit about those kind of guys that,

like I have. Trutman is a third round guy because to me, that's where I would take the risk of watching. When he's in line, they snapped the ball, and when he's coming off the line, he's basically just plowing into whoever's trying to play, bumping run and then whenever he gets through it, he gets through it like there's nothing technique about it. It's just oh well, I'll just start running. And it's like if that doesn't work out at the

next level, you're going up, oh real quickly. And that's why the tight end is a position that I will readily admit I'm happy to get rid of on my offense. Like we get some big wide receivers. That's why I'm picking the receivers there. And that's white and that's kind of why I had commit at number one, is because in that position, I'm kind of going just something safe because I don't really might not have any use for

you in my offense. And that's a good transition because I'm the same way with my top five because at the top of mine, I've got Hunter Bryant. You talk about a smaller tie it in who can do everything for you, who's basically a wide receiver. I mean the guy is he's in the backfield, he's on the in the slot. He does everything, or at least he did

everything for Washington at the time. Then I've got Commet as my second Harrison Bryant once again, like we just talked about, another one of those do what everything guys. And then I've got Thaddeus Moss in my top five. I've got him that number four from LSU Adam Troutman kind of rounds things out at number five. See, it's gonna be really interesting in the combine. Might help some of these guys. Not that the forty is end all

be all at all. Yeah, I want to know what Thaddus Moss runs it, and I I'm waiting on his four eight. Well, I want to know what Cole Commet runs. I want to know what Hunter Hunter Bright may go run a four to five eight. Yeah, you know, Harrison Bryan may go run a four six five. You know is Cole Commet gonna be in the four eights? Is Thaddius Moss gonna run a four to nine? I watched watching Thaddius Moss. There are times where he will do some He'll go up and get the ball like his

dad would. Yeah, catches everything, But my goodness, you go, he is lumbering to get up the field, and that's probably gonna be a problem. Now. Is it safe to say that tight end might be the class that bounces around most in the combine? I think because I think it could. I think it could be one of the positions that we see justle around more so than the rest. I don't think you're gonna see many risers out of that, yeah, I mean, and maybe maybe it's Troutman and maybe as

unor Bryant from Washington. Yeah, maybe those guys rise. But I still think you're gonna get a you know, a class. I mean, I don't know the wide receivers are gonna hold off on everyone. I think the wide receivers as as a class could could kind of fall back a little bit, and maybe that does make room for some tight ends. But I just don't see anyone rising there except you know, the two guys. We kind of talked about it's a fun class because there's a lot of

any different players, but it's just nothing amazing. Well, we've gone through three positions. We were trying to get to five, but we are way over time, so we're gonna push those away for later. David Hellman will have to come chime in a little bit on some of those other positions. But when we come back, we'll give you our newest edition of Twitter on the twenty. Send in your questions to the Draft show will be back in just a moment. I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end for the Dallas Cowboys

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down based on GWS one score. September twenty nineteen. This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show back here from the Star in Frisco, the STWBC Mortgage Studios in the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show time. Now for some Twitter on the twenty Twitter on the Twitter. Yeah, Cayden's back there. He's on top of things. He's like he's never skipped to be. But we've got some Twitter questions to get to. Jeff Caman on Kevin Turner, Kyle Yeomans. We continue to roll on here in episode number six

of the Draft show. Well, you're gonna start things off with Jeremy. Excuse me. Jeremy recently saw a Dallas Day article with several instant interesting names you've all mentioned in the past. If you could only have one Dallas Day prospect, who would it be? In what realists to cow Okay, let me give you guys some names of guys that are eligible for Dallas Day. Jeffrey Okuda is eligible for Dallas Day. There's my guy, James Prochet is eligible for Dallasday.

J Jalen Raiger, TCU, Laviska Chanaul he went to De Soto justin Matabekee. He went to McKinney North, I believe, yes, Jeff Gladney, T Deevin DuVernay, h Saxy, Yeah, Ross Blacklock, TCU, T ta Eno, Benjamin the running back from Arizona State East Product. There are ah wait, sorry, guys, Mason Fine, North Texas quarterback North tex Is who you want? No, the guys who are coligible to be Dallas Day. Uh,

it's a ridiculous list. So they could use their thirty visits on a lot of people, and then they could get an extra ten first rounders on Dallas Day to swing through if they wanted to. Would you put Jalen rag in that? Yeah? Okay, So I guess ideally, if I could have any of them, I'll take Jeffrey Okuda at seventeen. Thanks. That would be nice. Right. There's there's another day I want to throw out just because I mean, it's it's there because the Cowboys are really they're they're

thirty visits. You're right, man, they can pick and choose and kind of spread this thing out, which is what we've been kind of wanting them to do. Except if I were one of these guys, Like if I were Jalen Rager and they're like, hey, we want me to come to Dallas Day so we can save a visit, I'd be like, no, I'm wanting by myself. Yeah, if you like, I'm not forefront of this, I'm not coming with fifty dudes. I'm gonna come to the facility by myself,

free visit. Extend the invite then, and then decide if you want to invite him as a top thirty because it might not be picking any wide receivers in the first three rounds and you may want you don't do that to me. I'm trying to watch you if you get a chance, Jeff. It's a little bit downline. Darry and Daniels defensive alignment from Nebraska. Okay, he's an interesting name to keep an eye on. Again. We're talking day three now, but that's a guy who will be at

Dallas Day or we'll have a Dallas Day invite. At least Reggie Robinson's your guy, adn't he. Reggie Robinson from Tulsa is one of my favorite cornerbacks in the draft. In fact, I do have him grated better than your guy Damon our Nettow. Whoa, whoa. I love Reggie Robinson, the cornerback from Tulsa a Dallas Day invite as well. So I just I think there's it's great that you

get this opportunity. And I think the Cowboys are one of the teams that really benefits because of where they live and we crank out good football players here in the great state of Texas. But this year, or even more so than years past, I'm seeing a bunch of

names pop on the Dallas Day potential list. And you know, if those players decided to show up or Dona is up today, and I'll give you, I'll give you an offensive player and a defensive player that I would like to at least look at in terms of Dallas Day. Devin Duvernet of Texas, which we've talked about in length because he could be a mid round product of Saxy High School that could stay in the thew area. Of course,

he went to Texas. Then you've got Jeff Gladney, who we just talked about a couple of moments ago in our first segment from TCU. I like what he brings to the table. He's out of New Boston, Texas, which is I don't even know where New Boston is, but he went to TCU, so that it's all that matters. But there's two guys, and that's just a potential of the kind of guys that could be wearing the star on their helmet next year that are at Dallas Day

because they fit into those needs. Yeah, and they're gonna get an extra look at no doubt about. It'd be different if it was a bunch of offensive linemen, you know, or running backs, and there are some good running backs on that list as well of who could potentially come to Dallas Day. But you know, this team is probably not gonna draft a running back. This team might not

drafting offensive lineman. We'll see how it goes. You know, we know the needs on this team, and I think that's very interesting that some of those needs fit and well, hopefully these players all decide to come to Dallas. Realistic off that list, I would take either justin mad A Bouquet, matabk Yeah, it's Mattabeka. Okay, I promise I'm getting different ones here. I googled it. You googled it, well, trust me, I've gone back and forth. I've looked it up many times.

Either him or Ross Blacklock as your second round pick down with that, either one of those guys at d tackle, I'd take one of those. I mean, you're going secondary in the first or wide receiver. I guess you don't worry about me. I fan of both of those players. I think I like Blacklock a little bit more, but I think that is that is a good range for

those guys too. You know, those guys are guys who have a chance to be top fifty guys and have a chance to be guys where if you're on the clock in the second round, you're going, oh or these guys are going to be there. And the more I look at Blackclock, the more I don't know if he'll be there at fifty one, because that's kind of a he might not kind of an iffy thing, and if he goes to the combine and shows out, he may

very well not be. Kind of sticking with the same theme, our next question comes from chip People's and he asked what Texas product can improve their stock the most at the NFL combine. We just mentioned Ross Blacklock, but who else could come out of that? And that's not talking about the University of Texas. This is the state of Texas and maybe even going back to high school, what about Colin Johnson? Colin john Colin Johnson runs a good forty and good agilities at six five or six six.

If if he burns up to forty, uh, I think that could help him. How's he gonna look in the gauntlet where he's running laterally across the field, turning his shoulders, turning his hips to catch foot routs? Is I'm gonna turn a little bit and kind of have that Dez Bryant motion. And I'll say the same thing to to a little less extent to Baylor wide receiver Denzel Mims. How is he gonna look laterally across the field tape?

That's my favorite drill that the wide receivers do at the carbbine is the gauntlet where they just run across and they have to turn the catch a pass, drop the ball, catch pass ketch bass and get to see it, get a good look at their hands, but also you get a good look at how they turn their hips and turn their body and their awareness and how quickly they react. And I think that's one. James Prochet from SMU is another wide receiver who needs to go run well.

Quite frankly, I think he needs to go run well. Um. I think people have a little more faith than Devin de Varney. I know I do UM and moving away from from the wide receiver position, you know, I don't nothing's really jumping out. I mean, I guess in Texas, I'm trying to think of Oh, I'm Josh Jones. A few was thinking left tackle. He was a Senior Bowl guy.

He may go run the fastest forty of offensive lines athletic man, and he moves laterally really well, and I think he could potentially benefit another guy that's not a wide receiver in Eno Benjamin out of Arizona State. But kind of talking about Josh Jones, sticking with that, I mean, we're not really looking at these offensive lineman as a

Cowboys organization at the moment. But this is a guy at the Senior Bowl that was throwing punches man, I mean, he was mauling defensive lineman and really a defensive line class that was impressive throughout the week in mobile. I just think he moves so well on tape, and it reminds me of you know, some of these left tackles or right tackles. Wherever they're going to play in the NFL usually comes to how teams are, how they need

him at the point. But like I used to think of, we've seen some stiff guys taken and the top, you know, fifteen, I remember Eric Flowers will always jump at you from New York, and it's easy in hindsight to say that, but I remember we're all going huh. And I think of Colton Davis from UCLA though, who also was a little different. He was a guy or Colton Miller, I'm sorry, from Ucla, who the Raiders took at eighteen, and he was a guy who moved really well but didn't have

the power. I think Josh Jones is more than just a good mover. Andre Dillard is a guy from Washington State last year who went in the first round and he moved really well but also showed you the strength. And Josh Jones shows you enough strength on tape to make you go okay. Now there's sometimes where there's technique

fumbles and his feet are kind of bad. Yeah, you worry about that a little bit, But I mean I don't have any problem with him, you know, sneaking into the back half of the first round if that, if that were to happen. One more name to answer Chip's question before we move on, But what about Courtney Davis out of Texas A and M kind of going back to wide receivers. This is a guy that was kind of a last minute addition to the Senior Bowl roster, played semi well. I mean he was definitely he held

his own throughout the week in Mobile. He wasn't the best receiver there. I think Denzel Mims might have taken him a cake on that one. But I think Courtney Davis, if he goes out and runs really well with a combine and puts up some numbers, he could potentially go from a late day three guy to late day two. He's gonna run well, and for a bigger guy too. I mean he's six two yeah, two h five at least that's what I have on him right now. He's gonna run really well to come by and I think

he's gonna run. Like my springtime on him as a four to five three. I mean, I think he's gonna run, and you watch him on tape, you're going, Okay, that's faster than that. Yeah. So I think he's gonna be a low four four guy. And you know, he's really good after the catch. That's that's where he wins. Just get the ball into his hands. Does he always catch the ball with his hands? Does he have some drops? He absolutely does. He's got some inconsistencies that make you nervous.

I have him as a fourth round grade, you know, kind of a Day three guy, early day three. I've got him out as a fifth round because you see the explosiveness after the catch, big catch radius, you know, big target for the quarterback. I just there's so many drops and little things about his route running that make you go oh. But once you get the ball in his hands, you're really happy that that happened. So that's how I feel about him. And we didn't even mention too.

Jalen Ragor again as Jeff's guy here, Jalen Ragor may go do run a four to eight. Yeah, Like that's go out, Henry Ruggs. That'll help your drafts out would be interested. That's how you go from being talked about at thirty five to being talked about at ten fifteen. Is it gonna help that Jalen Ragor is gonna wrap out two twenty five like thirty times? Does that help a drive four to eighty. He's gonna ask are we doing squats here? May we not do that? But eight

hundred on? Oh man, let's move on. Next question comes from Jack Parsley, and Jack asked, could you see the Cowboys addressing backup quarterback in this year's draft? It's so where with Dak making big money next season, I'd like to have a quality backup who's cheap for the next four years. And also not to Benchi, Cooper Rush's contract is up as well. So quarterbacks goes so fast they do, and this year quarterback I mean, yeah, outside of the

top five quarterbacks. And then I would maybe throw in Jalen Hurts because I'm actually interested in that backing up Dak. Not as an NFL starter, no, but as a guy who has similar positive traits in college too. Yeah, I'm interested in that if I can use a fourth round pick off. But I don't think of a name though, with this organization and with a guy like Dak Prescott bringing in a name like Jalen Hurst, I mean, if it is, I think that would be a problem with

your starting quarterback. I'd be like, wait, we're worried about behind us? Yeah, I don't think anybody should be. And I don't think Dak would be heck Selson backup Jerseys. Uh, Jerry, I'll love it. I am interested in Easton from Washington as another name, but after that, and then he's gonna go in like the top forty and you're gonna be like, what and we're doing he shouldn't be going in the top forty. You know what I would do seventh round

if Jake from still in the board. From there, I just want a guy who's gonna be the scout team guy. Make sure you're throwing it to the right spot. I mean, look, what if From's there, If you're if you're not willing to invest in an actual backup quarterback, then what are we doing? And that's kind of the question. Go sign a veteran, go grab a one, just go get someone. Yeah that sounds easy, but I'm not like, if my

quarterback gets hurt I'm probably screwed. Okay, it's a luxury if a quarterback gets hurt and I find a way to survive. I hear you, Tom Moore. If you're gonna do that, nineteen goes down, we're left. We don't practice out exactly. And that's the dude, that's that's that's the story, right, Peyton Manning. If you're gonna pay your quarterback too, that's the story. Yeah, right, If you're paying your quarterback, well, not gonna be able to invest much in a backup quarterback,

It's fine. I'm not gonna be doing what the Saints did. So you think the Saints must be honest? You think that the Saints. I know Teddy had to play this year. Yeah, but you think the Saints were happy about not having that extra ten million dollars a cap room to go get another offensive weapon this year. That's true. They could have that, They could have been able to do that. I don't know who that weapon. I think they would rather have that extra weapon or the five and oh

they went with their backup quarterback. Could Taysom Hill have gun five and oh? No? Does Sean Payton think Tasom milk of gun five and oh or played him. Yeah, he played less when Teddy was playing than he did there. Yeah, Taysom Hill was verted to the bench, but he's a franchise quarterback. Guys, shout out to that special team's coach who I knew exactly what he looked like before I even looked him up. You tell me, Taysom Hill throws

it better than Lamar Jackson. I know a lot of things about you, I promise so, Katie, you're saying you would rather spend those latter round picks on other needs than potentially back up might be wide receivers. You might just load it up with wide receivers. Well, I mean in this class, maybe what's gonna be there for you in round five? Yeah? Is there gonna be a good player? There would be good receivers. They had James Prochet from SMUs there for you. Yeah, in round five? Worst Denzel

Mims going? Am I gonna be able to get him in like the fourth round? Gosh? I would I have him? Awesome? But I don't see anybody really talking about him that way. I have an early third round grade on him, but I could see him being there in the fourth. I think the mystery I've got him in the third round. But the mystery of the Baylor wide receiver I think keeps a lot of people quiet on Baylor's tough, but

I do think it's changed. I'm putting way too much stock into the Senior Bowl seeing him run routes from no, we can run routes. I do this. He's legit. Though I liked it on tape before the Senior Bowl, I was all happy with it, so I thought the Senior Bowl was reassurance for what I was seeing on tape from him. But in the end, that was only good enough to be my thirteenth ranked wide receiver. And this year's class, that's what we're talking good thirteen will go

in the top three rounds. I guarantee it, Yeah, I guarantee. Okay, tarteen receivers will we go on for three rounds? Is what? Ninety four picks something like that, thirty two, sixty four, ninety six, and you got some cop picks starting in the third. So maybe it's like a sword pickles stay top one hundred, thirteen wide receivers in the top one hundred. Yeah, Oh man, that's gonna be a good vegas over under.

Oh dude, how many receivers go that early. Over I think it would be over to first round at Judy Team Lamb, Judy Rugs, maybe Rager and Chanal. You're gonna have five in the first round. Everything to throw t Higgins in there. Maybe te Higgins, you're getting thirteen in

the first three rounds. You're getting that's trying to think about. Yeah, lots of wide receivers out there, and it'll be interesting to see where the Cowboys go in terms of if they could back up their quarterback in the draft, But it looks like maybe that's not necessarily the best option out there. Our best option is to take when we come back, we're gonna finish up some this or that from last week. We've got four scenarios. Who's the better player.

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over under In terms of wide receivers. In the first three rounds of the draft twenty nineteen, there were thirteen, twenty eighteen ten twenty seventeen, there were fourteen right at thirteen. Actually, yeah, so we've had over, we've had under, and we've had a push in the past three years. So the Vegas thirteen over under. I'll set it at fourteen and a half, fourteen and a half. There will be at least fifteen I'm up in my number. There'll be at least fifteen receivers.

Fourteen and a half, So you can take de over. Yes, fourteen and a half, Okay, it's the over under, okayting, And I think it'll be probably over that as well. Just with a class like this, I think there's probably gonna be a run of that early on. Our football team would be terrible because I would draft. I'd have eleven receivers active on. Getting no dybody to be so confused. Yeah, I'm looking at my wide receiver sixteen through twenty though right now, and I'm going, man, I'd like to have

that third. Quintest c Fist from Wisconsin is my wide receiver sixteen, and he's my Michael Gallup comp nice without the duction, okay, but on the field, who looks like to me? Van Jefferson of Florida. Yeah, wide receiver seventeen, Wide receiver eighteen, Colin Johnson of Texas, he's had eighteen. Brian Edwards of South Carolina, wide receiver nineteen. Just load up and then James Prochet of SMU wide receivers twenty. Wow,

that's unbelievable. Well, while sticking with the wide receivers, we'll talk about a pair of them here coming up in just a little bit. But Katie, you had some this or that last week where we played GM. We were building our board. We just showed you a couple of our boards. But we're going to continue building these off of some of the scenarios that you had last week. And you had a pair of really highly rated running backs to start us off this week. Let's talk about that.

I am interested. We haven't talked a lot about the running back position because you know, the Cowboys signed Zeke to that big contract, my this or that for the running back position. I want you guys to not look at your team, just pick the best player. Who do you want on your team? Is it JK. Dobbins of Ohio State or is it DeAndre Swift of Georgia. Now those are my top two rated running backs. I know that's not what the world may think Jonathan Taylor of

Wisconsin might deserve. We are you hating on Zach Moss and Clyde Edwards, Hilarias, Zach Moss issue. All those guys are in the mix there, but this is my this or that for today, Zach the JK. Dobbins of Ohio State or DeAndre Swift of Georgia. I have to tell you that I'm doing this only off of live viewings, as I have not studied running backs yet. I'll expose my own ignorance and I'll tell you in live viewings, will you cover the Cowboys for a living? That's right?

And they're not running backs an offensive line. I'll tell you I get too in a week or two. I love DeAndre Swift, They're both great. Yeah, just watching live, DeAndre Swift popped to me Well, and I think if you're gonna get one of these two guys, you're faly pumped about it. I would try to be, oh, you know what, Okay, here's my new official take. Okay, neither whichever Well doesn't go in the first round because you shouldn't waste a first round pick on a running back. Wow,

thank you, that's fair, Thank you. I'll take which everyone's bailable in the third. Neither one are going to be there in the third, all right? Who will be? Probably? Yeah? Probably? You know Benjamin run Well if you can't, they won't. I'm gonna take JK. Dobbins here. I think he's a bigger back, he's more experienced. He may have had a little bit more of the tread taken off those tires over the course of his college career because he was a starter for the majority of it and took a

lot of carries. That's why you saw the statistical comparison on that graphic, and he's almost doubling up what DeAndre Swift had. Swift had some injury issues and that kind of bothers me, and it's it wasn't necessarily one single injury issue that scared me. It was more so the fact that they were lingering over the course of his

college career. Sat out the Sugar Bowl against Baylor, and I had a lot of that and now I know that could have been a business decision, But he also said that he had some issues in terms of the health in that regard. So I'm going to take JK. Dobbins just because even though he is more experienced and he has taken a couple more hits, I think he's the better back. He's a little bit as well. I'm gonna break the Tide and I'm gonna tell you guys

that it's close. Um, it's DeAndre Swift for me. And when I watched him, you're gonna get a little up bit extra burst with him, a little more ability to take it to the house. But I think there's a situation with Swift. If you watch Georgia, what were teams doing? And this will tell you a little bit of what you need to know about Jake from I would think, yeah, teams are just loading the box and they were and

they were still. He was running through eight man boxes and he was running tough through there and he was finding a way. Now you go watch JK. Dobbins and you're gonna see holes galore to run through. I mean, you're just the wide open spaces. And that's where I kind of went, Man, this Swift guy open space and it's swift. Wow. Yeah, So I think on purpose, didn't you know? Okay, I don't know if she sings that, but I believe it's the Dixie Chicks. Sorry, man, some

time to study up on that tape too. Yeah, I think the Swift song was blank space. I think Okay, sorry, I don't know. Yeah, how did you do? That's my fault. So there is no eno enough running back talk. Let's go to the next one. Okay, the next one is Jeff, You're gonna like this wide receiver matchup another big verse little USC wide receiver Michael Pittman versus Texas wide receiver Devin Duverney. Well, currently, Michael Pittman is my sixth receiver

and Devin Duverney. Okay, why are we saying it like that is fourteenth or fifteenth Duverney. It's DuVernay, Okay, I'm just being k I didn't know, well, I didn't know if it was like a bit. Yeah, I was just a legit thing or not. For me. There's a big difference between those two. I love Michael Pittman. I love, love, love Michael Pittman. I like Devin Duverne. He was your pet cat our first episode. Yeah, Michael Pittman is my guy. At six four two nineteen. He didn't move like he's

six four two nineteen. He moves like he's a six foot guy. Like he's a good route runner who'll go high point the ball. He tracks the ball. I like everything about Michael Pittman. To me, he's a top fifty to sixty pick. Really, that's to me, I don't get to pick. So maybe he'll go on the third or fourth round. I don't know. But to me, Duverney is more of a third to fourth round guy and Pittman is a second to third round guy. Um, there's a

famous director ava du Verney. That's why she's held down that name and the only person to know with that name for years. I thought so now Duverne just wanted to be a part of the bit if it were a bit. Uh No, I like that though. I've got Pittman graded higher than Duverney. It's gonna be wide receiver ten for me. Michael Pittman, what is Duverne wide receiver eleven?

Oh my god, that's why you picked it? Yeah? Behind them a guy we haven't talked about, John High Tower of Boisey State, and we know this team likes picking Boisey State guys. John High Tower is kind of a fun name. I know we're going outside. Well, yes, wow, I think you think it's too high or too low. You're saying too high, oh, too too high, too high. I have a friend named Brian that I think likes ye Tower too, so I probably need to do him next.

Sounds like he's pretty good. Just this the pure speed and what's he going to run at the combine? Two? My springtime on him is a four four one uh and you know what, he's tall, lanky, you know, which is kind of kind of strange. My spring weight on him is one eighty five. So we'll see what that checks in at the combine. I'm very interested to see his measurements. Six One is the hight. He plays like some of these little slot guys, these separators who can get out of it, and you can do a lot

for him. I what I wrote on my notes is that he and he also has returnability. I wrote that he's shifty and he is a versatile pond for the offense. You can use an emotion for jet sweeps, paw slip screens, pawns, the weakest piece on the board. I don't know, don't not just like a pond, just say it's just as something in your arsenal. Okay, there you go. Yeah, but but bishop rook a queen, I don't know he will be a rookie receiver for the offense. Yeah, there you go.

I'm gonna pick DuVernay here, just a kind of break up the monotony. Here you would come the guy. I mean, the guy has unbelievable hands. He runs routes very well. And one thing about DuVernay, and this is this might go against my point, but I'm gonna say it anyways. Whenever watching film on DuVernay, it almost looks like he's not going one hundred percent when he's running routes. Specifically, I was watching the Kansas State game. He had a

pretty nice game. I think he had over a hundred yards and I think he had like eleven catches or something like that. And in the Kansas State game, it seemed like DuVernay was almost going eighty percent, Like it seemed like he was kind of gliding, and it made it look effortless. That's kind of what I really was so much zone and maybe that I ding guys for that where it's like I want to see you torching people who line up in front of you, who would

challenge you and press up against you. Yeah, and I see that, but he still has separation. He faced man a man in the Senior Bowl practices and he fared quite well in the middle of it. He's a slot burner. I'm interested kind of how you're interested at a high tower at Boise State, and now he is going to end up being met at the NFL Combine. I'm excited about seeing DuVernay and what he runs, and I want

to see the cone drill. I want to see all of it and see exactly what we have with Devin Duverney, because right now when I watch film, I see a guy who doesn't drop passes, which as a Cowboys fan, I'm a little scarred by that at the moment, and I like the guy who catch the security of catching a ball. And at the same time, I also like the fact that maybe we haven't seen all of Devin DuVernay at the moment, and maybe we could. I like that. I think I think it's close. And again, this type

of thing will come down to what teams need. Next one is edge rushers here and all of this or that action. Boise State defensive end Curtis Weaver going up against Tennessee defensive end Darryl Taylor. Man, I feel like you stole this off of my board because I have their tags touching interesting the third round. Generally, if they're in any type of this or that situation, I have them touching as well. I have them touching in the fourth round, though, I've got a couple of people in between,

so we're fine. I have Taylor. I got Taylor just ahead of Weaver on my board. The production that Weavers had is incredible. Both of them have pretty good production I get. I hate with Weaver. What I don't like is the level of competition, just the fact that he's a Mountain West guy as opposed to SEC. I'm watching him just literally run around a couple of times, He's

just running around guys. And with Taylor, I'm watching him in the SEC at under two hundred and sixty pounds, be stout enough to kind of stand up two and man handle offensive tackles. I like Taylor a little bit better, and I'm open to being wrong on Weaver, but his production I discount some of it because I've just seen him just running circles around guys who aren't going to

be playing football anymore. Okay, you know my situation with Taylor is, and I have Taylor's that who my pick would be just because of I do think he's a little bit more athletic than Weaver. With Taylor, and my concerns are he just ran so hot and cold. When you're watching in some of these games, yes, it's like, Okay, there's a big Stacker production and then there's nothing for

three quarters. Yeah, and then it kind of then you branch it out to a season and you go, well, there's a big Stacker production and there's nothing for three or four games. Sometimes laid off the ball a little things like that. But you do see the pure speed to get around the edge. With Weaver, you don't really see the speed to get around the edge. You just see a guy just doing away, just doing it somehow.

And that's kind of Darryl Taylor's primary pass rush plan, attacking the out touch outside shoulder of the tackle, and every once in a while, I'll flash inside. I'm gonna use my quickness to win. I do worry about the instincts a little bit, well, knowing when it's a run play a pass play, and how quickly he can diagnose all that stuff. With Weaver, you don't worry about any of that stuff. Yeah, Well with Taylor, I do. But I'm betting, and if I have a fourth round grade

on these guys, what am I betting on here? I'm betting on some upside, and I'm betting on some trades here and that's why I have Taylor just ahead of Weaver. But I can see if you're a front office, you may have the conversation to go back and forth with your buddies, going, man, this is a safe thing, safe thing right here. This Curtis Weaver, guy from Boise State. Yeah,

he can be my backup defensive in right here. Yeah, I could give him some snaps and I can say, well, Darrel Taylor, I might be able to convert into a starter one day because the upside is incredible. So Darryl Taylor wins by a scoch here, but it's a close winner. And i'd like this debate. And I'm gonna once again, I'm taking the different one. I'm taking Weaver, and it's just because he's wild, a little bit wider, a little bit heavier. But I see what you're saying in terms

of the upside of Taylor. He's got a better build one does. He's a little bit leaner, he has that athleticism. He faced tougher competition over the course of his career. That's why he only had the nineteen and a half sacks compared to the thirty four that Curtis Weaver had, But I gotta stay kind of short with mine. We got one more we're gonna get to right now. Cornerbacks, who you got, Yeah, this is gonna be fun. Right it's Mississippi State cornerback Cameron Danceler against Auburn. Okay, tags

tell you going? Tags touching on me making me choose between my Auburn cornerback Noah Igbogeny. No way. So Cameron Danceler is six two one eighty five Eggmanogny is five eleven two hundred And here's the thing about Cameron Dancler, at least when I watched him, My immediate takeaway was, holy cow, this guy does not play like I thought he was gonna play a lot of these tall, kind

of lanky dudes. Now he's not gonna come up and help out on the run a lot, but like he's not getting pushed around during the route like one hundred and eighty pound guy would. So I thought his play strength is really good. He allowed under five hundred yards, you know, in two straight years at Mississippi State and the SEC. Which now some of those schools that you're going up again are flinging it around a little bit. Um. I just think he played stronger than one hundred eighty pounds.

I think he does a good job working through contact. He's got those long strides. He's probably gonna go run a four to five. Maybe maybe a late four nine I mean four four nine, four four eight area. Maybe he runs that, and I think that helps him a little bit. He's my sixth graded cornerback. I got a second round grade on him. I just love the quickness and long speed that that dancler has in the length. I take dancler By by a slip. Really. I have dancler as my seventh cornerback and I got Noah as

my eighth quarterback. I couldn't get over how good his tape was against lsu Ye was so so good. Yeah, and uh Igbogeny I lost it, but he also had incredible tape. I love both of them. They're my seventh and eighth corners and uh I barely go Danceler. I feel okay about it. I barely go Danceler. But Florida and Minnesota tape on Iggy, I loved him. Do you worry about Noah from Aubren? Do you worry about him? Being like just kind of being new to this cornerback thing.

I mean he was a little raw. Well he was a wide receiver and he's transitioned back and he was really good. But it was all the time. Man. I think that also. It does happen sometimes, But I just think cornerback is a position where technically you gotta be on, you know, all the time. And with Danceler you see that a little bit. Dancler didn't play like an awkward six foot two cornerback and that's sometimes you see that

with those tall to go. Yeah, so here's I have Danceler as a better player on my board, but I'm gonna throw a wrench into things. And I think Igbanogeny is a guy who could or is more likely to end up on the Dallas Cowboys. And I'll give you a reason why. He returns kicks and he returns them well, he averaged over twenty eight yards per return this year. He had at least a ninety six yard touchdown run and each of his last two seasons. And he's good at any kick returned punt return. He did both for

Auburn and he was good. That's why I'm trying to get Rager twenty one yards per punt return. You know there's something to him. I want to mention about Danceler too though, and this is maybe it helps give him the edge. It helps him if you're that much taller. But do you do you play six two and we'll see what he measures at the combine. But there's also

in zone coverage. There's a couple of plays where he's floating in zone coverage and he's able to get his hand on a ball that a five eleven guy, quite frankly wouldn't get his hand on. Don't you take shots at He might jump forty eight inches, he might probably gonna be five nine at the combine, like we talked about at the top of the show. Sure, yeah, that's okay,

But man, these this or that's a tough Katie. Well done both last weekend this week as well, but that's gonna do it here for this week's episode of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Dave Hellman will be back next week as he's done in New Orleans. Jeff Kalvanon Kevin Turner will be here as well with myself. Kyle Yeoman's will preview the NFL combine and get you set for Indianapolis next week. Thanks for joining us this

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