Draft Show: Top Day 3 Targets?

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that they're gonna make up heading into twenty twenty. Kyle Yeoman's here, David Hellman alongside Kevin Turner, and we've got a special guest back on the Draft Show for the first time since when mobile since we were down at the Senior Bowl. Bucky Brooks joins the Draft Show. Bucky, thanks for stopping in and of course we're glad to have you here on The Draft Show presented by Miller Lite. Hey, thanks for having me on, guys, and it's gonna be

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deep in it. But let's go looking at really the past week of the Dallas Cowboys, and of course even prior to last week when we did our one round mock draft here on the Draft Show, we talked about the potentials for interior defensive linemen and who had already just been taken care of, at least whenever it comes to the signings for the Dallas Cowboys, Gerald McCoy now don Terry Poe joining the Cowboys each on a couple

of multi year deals. And then yesterday we also had an edge rusher signed by the Dallas Cowboys, mister Alden Smith, a former Pro bowler. We're gonna get into all of that, but I kind of want to start with the defensive tackles guys, and how this kind of affects the draft plan for the Dallas Cowboys. And Katie, I want to

start with you. I mean, these are two bigger bodies in the middle of this defensive line, but does that kind of sway you from I know what you were wanting early in the draft show process, which was javon Kin law. Does this sway you at all? Having McCoy and Poe, No, it really doesn't changed too much for me, Like I still want to take the best player, and I feel like we are in a situation where ken Law at seventeen does seem like that's kind of sketchy,

like it might not happen. So if ki Law falls to you at seventeen, I'm still gonna do that, but you know, still take the best player in seventeen. This roster's too close. Take the best player, and you know you'll figure out your defensive end problem at some point, and maybe that's where Chason comes into play. Bucky Now, I think it opens up the board. I think is

now just sitting take the best player available. When you're sitting there at seventeen, depending upon when the run at quarterback goes, you don't have a good player fall to you at seventeen. So from a defensive standpoint, if Javanna Ken laws there, I think it's a no brainer. When it comes to the edge rushers, they could be available. I think you're talking about a aj Epanessa. You may be talking about a Chason And then you're two and

gross mottos. It really just depends on how Mike Nolan views the edge rusher class and what he wants in that position. Even though they're bringing an audience faith, I don't think he precludes or changes your draft plans. I still think you're trying to find a blue chip player that can come in and play right away. Yeah, I mean, I think it's really funny. The cowboy always are doing exactly what they always do, but they still find a way to throw you a curveball or two, right, because

we're not used to see in the big names. We're certainly not used to seeing the big body nose tackles like Dantari Poe, not during Rob Marinelli's tenure at any rate. And anybody that saw Alden Smith coming go buy some Lotto tickets because that's about as big of a curveball as I've ever seen in my career. But it's still it fits their game plan right, Like they're not going to be big spenders, they're bargain hunters. They're paying PO

five something million a year and change. I think Smith's base salary is only two million with incentives built in. But what does it do Bucky's is exactly right. It opens up the board because the reason I've been talking about Calevan Chason this whole time is because it looked like they needed to draft a defensive end. Now Alden Smith and potentially Randy Gregory shouldn't change that need whatsoever. But it puts you in a position where you don't have to spend that pick on an edge rusher if

you don't want to. I think where it gets really fun. I'm sorry, Kyle, I think where it gets really fun is what happens if Ken Law's gone, Chasn's gone, whoever they have graded his cornerback too. Maybe it's C. J. Henderson, maybe he's gone. Like with seventeen, you're sitting there going, I kind of want to go back, and you can't

always do that. So or you want to join team forty Burger, Kevin, that's the answer, all right, get yourself a wide receiver being any of the top three receiver is gonna be there for teen forty Burger at seventeen. That's not a guarantee either, especially if you look at some of the guys that are gonna go off the board early. I mean, do we want to have the conversation about Justin Jefferson, because we can do that. What about Jalen Raiger, Jalen Rager, how about Brandon for seventeen?

I think all three of those are two high. For seventeen, yeah, I think I think those guys are a little too high. But if we talk about everyone can't go in the first sixteen picks, can't have a ton of quarterbacks, we can't have all the playmakers, all the defensive guys go.

There's gonna be a good player. This sitting right there at seventeen, I think what you've done by getting the veteran players, you've kind of assured that at least opening day, the start of the season, you have someone that can tread out with the ones. Now it's about what's the blue chip player. Find the blue chip player, take that blue chip player of the girls of the position underneed.

And it's kind of starting to look toward now that you've kind of filled some of these needs in free agency, like a defensive tackle, like an edge rusher potentially, And I'm just saying you've filled needs with bodies. Like David said, these aren't necessarily the be all, end all moves. These are moves that have kind of set you up for success to add talent, young talent, cheap talent through the draft, but also have some veteran presence and maybe a safety

net if those debts don't necessarily work out. I mean, look back to twenty nineteen's draft. You thought you had a gem of a pick in Connor McGovern in the third round to pick ninety. He didn't play all last year. That's not because he's a bad player. He just had some health issues. And if you were relying on him to be a starting interior offensive lineman heading into twenty nineteen, it would have been a lot different or a lot more disappointing the fact that he was unhealthy. Now you've

got kind of a safety net underneath you. You're starting to build a little bit of a roster, and I see how it opens up the board. But I kind of want to keep a mindset on defensive line right now and ask you guys this question, which part of the defensive line is now the highest draft need? Is it interior or where is it on the edge? I honest definitely a good Well. I'm sorry, Kate, I don't think anything has changed. Like I just said, I still look at right end as a huge problem spot and

Alden Smith is. It's super intriguing because the upside is crazy if it pans out. But how can you count on that? I believe right now he has not been reinstated. Obviously, the Cowboys are pretty optimistic that he will be, or else they wouldn't have signed him, But he has not been reinstated. Neither has Randy Gregory. Gregory hasn't played in more than a year. Alvin Smith hasn't played since twenty fifteen. Think about what you were doing in twenty fifteen. I mean,

that's so it's crazy. So I can't sit here and count on either of those guys. I don't feel great about what was already on the roster, Tyron Crawford coming off hip surgery, and then a bunch of young players that haven't done a whole lot. It has not been addressed to the point where I'm not worried about it. So I still, you know, Gerald McCoy and Dontari Poe are are starter caliber players. They still don't have anything on the right side that just makes me feel super great.

I know the game is, you know, trying to take the best player you can, but would you guys agree with me that you feel better about the defensive tackle depth in round two than maybe the edge rusher depth on Day two in general? I would agree, Yeah, I would, I would agree, And I think I think you're kind of answering the question for yourself right there, because the falloff and edge rushers from first round to second round.

If they're going to make a move, they have to make a move in the first round that defensive end need outside linebacker, however you want to call it, that edge rusher player they need. I think with Randy Gregory and Aldon Smith, those are kind of bonus picks. If even one of those guys materializes and turns into a prominent player at death, great, I still think they have to enter the draft thinking, man, it'd be great to be able to get an edge rusher, a playmaker, someone

that can be disruptive off the edge at seventeen. And then it's a matter of this defense four three three four. Whoever they pick has to be a guy that kind of fits what Mike Nolan so we envisions in terms of that playing style as an edge player, and a lot of it determines on Okay, after Chase Young goes, who are the next ones to go? It? Will any of those guys be available when they get to seventeen? Plenty of options for the Cowboys at seventeen. And I

mean you could even throw secondary into the mix. I mean we've talked about a corner or a safety really since the draft show started about eighty five days ago, just based off of the fact that you need a safety. You still need a corner. You've lost Byron Jones, and even with the addition of Haw Haw Clinton Dicks at the safety spot, you're not necessarily sold in that spot

as well. So with all of this being said, and if you would have asked me this question, and if I would have asked you guys this question three weeks ago, it might have been a lot different. But right now, as we sit twenty one days from the NFL Draft, what are your top three needs for the Dallas Cowboys in order at this moment? Oh wow, that's tough because it's not an easy question. It's really not um But Bucky, I want to hear I mean, we've been doing this

for three months. I want to hear your thoughts on it. Just a new a new perspective. I think it has to be somewhere on the defenses of the ball. I think offensively they're good enough to to to play at

a high level. Defensively, edge rusher corner safety. I would say edge rusher because the best way to protect the back end is to make sure that you're able to generate pressure when you go back and you look at Mike Nolan's history and the fact that Jim tom Sula when they had a role, I think what you want to do is be able to dominate people up front and find an edge rusher that can get home consistently.

If it's not one of those guys, then it has to be a top flight cornerback, someone that can play man demand, but also has enough in the toolbox to be able to get after people in a variety of different ways. And then safety. The thing about the safety class, I'm not overwhelmed with any of the top safeties, and so I don't know if in the first round you have to go and get a safety, because they all kind of they're okay. I don't think they're stars at

the top of the board. So I would focus on somewhere in that front line, somewhere on the edge, someone that can make it happen. Someone that can create sacks and really disrupt the play of the passing year. That's where it gets real fund from what Dave was saying earlier though, because I think that fourth need might be wide receiver. Three. Yeah, and it just depending what's there.

If the best player was a wide receiver, whether it be one of the Big three or whoever you're in love with the Big Three being Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs and Ceedee Lamb. I find that kind of fascinating of how they would think with an offensive minded head coach coming in here as well. If the best player graded was their fourth need, that's where things get really fun. On draft night, I would agree with Bucky out of percent,

though you look at their depth chart. I really liked their move of bringing back Anthony Brown, and I know he was cheap and Cheeto's going into year three not giving up on Cheetoh at all. Year four, You're four, Katie, year four, I'm sorry, so so a defensive end, time flies, man, except when you're quarantined and time goes by really slow.

But like you have recognizable names there at cornerback, it's not you know, you've got to feel in for Byron Jones, but we're talking about big time gambles on Aldon Smith and Randy Gregory and plug Tyron Crawford's coming back, and maybe he could play some defensive end for you. But so I agree one hundred percent it's Bucky. It's it's right defensive end. That is their number one need. For sure,

I was making a thing a bit easier. I'm I'm so conflicted though, I mean, I agree with everything Bucky said too, It's hard to ignore any of those needs. The cornerback situation is kind of terrifying because Anthony Brown is really the only sure thing you have now and in the future. I love George Lewis, but even if he's good, he's in a contract here. But having said all of that, I can't stop thinking about wide receiver.

You know deep, No, I mean, I know we joke about, we joke about drafting one and having this great offense, But like, isn't a strategy for success surrounding your quarterback with the best options possible? Like, yeah, you could sign Tavon Austin and throw them in there to be your slot, but like, is that the best strategy when you consider all of the great wide receivers that are available in

this draft. And if you want your thirty one million dollars maybe thirty five million dollar quarterback to succeed, I want as many good players around him as possible. And you can talk to me all day about how a great quarterback should elevate lesser players. I don't care give the guy town. I mean, Pat Mahomes just won a Super Bowl surrounded by Pro Bowl caliver skill players, and so I can't call wide receiver a top three need.

But I really think it would be in their best interest to address that opening with a high caliber player. That's I mean, I don't know, that's just me. Why Why is it not surprising to me the fact that David Hellman loses sleep at night thinking about drafting wide receivers. Is that? Is that just the most David Hellman thing

you've ever heard of? I mean, do you want do you want to like throw Cedric Wilson out there, or do you want to go get one of these ten million badass receivers, Like there's so many of them, and I mean you to get one of those in the third in the fourth round though you could and they might, but and I mean you still you have a decline And yeah, I mean I'm not saying they have to do it at seventeen, but I would argue, like one of their first three picks, you're gonna have a chance

to draft their really good wide receiver. That's all I think, David. I think you hit on something when you talk about in the second and third rounds. If you go back and look at Mike McCarthy's history, that's typically how the Green Bay Packers did it under his watch. They were find guys in the second and third round, guys that could come in. They would develop them in a way. They would go from Jody Nelson to Greg Jennings and on and on, and so I think that might be

the sweet spot for the Dallas Cowboys. We've talked about the depth and the talent in this wide receiver class. It's gotten to have been proven that you can get a number one receiver in the second round. We saw a j Brown pop for Tennessee. We saw Terry mclauren in the third round pop for the Washington Riskins. Michael Thomas, who summer considering the best receiver in football, was the second round. So if the Cowboys knowing exactly what they want,

they can find a guy in the second round. But you're right, they have to get a Tier one player, blue chip player in the first round, someone that could come in and immediately make a significant contribution. I like that you mentioned that, Bucky, because the Cowboys obviously they do weigh in like a lot of teams do. They weigh in roadmapping the draft. Where's the depth of the draft?

But you mentioned all those Packers wide receivers Davante Adams a couple of years ago, second round, and the Cowboys had a little bit of success in the third round with Michael Gallant too, yea, So maybe they're like, hey, we can get a receiver later. We just did it with Michael Gallup. Let's go somewhere else and really attack

the defense in the first couple rounds, you know. And it's kind of funny that you bring that up, and you talk about how in the past they've tend to kind of put their I guess, their priorities and other positions other than maybe the corners and the safeties. And with this being a different, different coaching staff, that may change, it may stay the same. We don't know. We won't

know until April twenty third. However, with the moves that they've kind of been making throughout the course of this offseason, and this is going to kind of go back to what I was talking about with Dave and trying to get to poke at it with Helman just a minute ago. But I could see them now starting to kind of put the pieces around, make sure there's a safety net. So that way, if the best player available at seventeen is a wide receiver, either Ceedee Lamb, Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs,

Jalen Raker, doesn't matter any of those guys. It makes it possibility to where you're able to make a pick there at a wide receiver. What do you do with the best overall players and offensive tackle? Take them? That's a good question. No hesitation, No hesitation, Yeah, because when you look at Tyron Smith, like how many more years as Tyron Smith have at a high level with the injuries and the slow decline and play, If there's a

top offensive tackle there, you can't go wrong. I think the Cowboys at a point where you can't go wrong. Just stockpolling talent and you take a talented offensive tackle and say he can't play the first year or whatever. They're ways that you can get them onto the field. Whether it's using six offensive line sets, whether it's finding a way to eat the movement inside or outside. There's a number of ways that you can take a blue

chip telling get them on the field. I think there are plenty of blue chip opportunities throughout the entirety of the first round, and we'll address that more and more as we go along. And we've talked about pick seventeen at nauseum for god knows how long here on the Draft Show, but we're gonna come back. When we come back, we've got Twitter on the twenty, and then after Twitter on the twenty, we're going to talk about some of our favorite Day three prospects as we continue rolling arong.

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With a little bit of draft talk, and let's go ahead and hop into some Twitter on the twenty one. So Twitter on the twenty of course now with Bucky Brooks joining the squad. But Bucky, we're gonna give a couple of questions to you here in a couple of moments. But this first one, I'm gonna start off asking mister David Hellman. And I saw this from Donald Walker on Twitter and he tweeted out at us. He said, David, who is one LSU guy that you would hate to

see the Dallas Cowboys draft. And I'm saying this because last week on the Box Draft, there were a lot of LSU guys in that first round. Some of them were picked by you, including kay Levan Chase On. But I want to know if one LSU guy out of the bunch, even some of the top names that you would not like to see the Cowboys draft. Yeah. I'm catching a lot of hell for driving the kay Levan

chase On train because people think it's homerism on my part. Whatever. Yeah, I could think of a couple right off the bat. I'll be perfectly honest. I mean, okay, I'd be fine drafting any of them. It just depends on when. Personally, I don't really get the hype on Thaddeus Moss as not as a top one hundred pick, like I see people talk about him as like a third round like maybe even like a late second round pick. I don't

see it. I think he's a good player. I'm not sure people would talk about him that way if he wasn't Randy's son. I'd be happy to draft him like sometime on Day three, but I would not want to draft him, you know, with the third round pick. That's way too high The same thing goes for Richard Lawrence. I think he's a good player. I think he's really tenacious, and he sets the edge really well. He could be like a good utility defensive lineman. I would be disappointed

picking him in the top one hundred picks. So those would be my two. I'd be happy to draft either of them on Day three, but those are not top one hundred type of guys in my opinion. Okay, So now that we've got the LSU question out of the way, I'm gonna start with Bucky here and Katie, I want to get your thought process on this too, because I

know both of you have looked at this. But this one comes from our guy Jeremy or actually this comes from Michael, excuse me, And he says, who are the top kick returners in the draft this year who quick stab at special teams? Yeah? I mean like people, people like those guys. You know, it's unique because some of it is you're trying to project guys at the next level that could do it. But the guy that I would love to see in the return game would be Brandon Ayuk from areas of the State. I think the

common denominator for the great returners. They have a level of physicality and toughness with the ball in their hands, and they also have some some special qualities that pop. We could throw Ceedee Lamb in that mix, but Brandon Nayuk to me is a guy that has special special traits. I think Jalen Rager would also be a fantastic kick returner, you know, just because the explosiveness with the ball in the hands. Typically those guys are the ones they really

excel at the next level. No, I agree with those guys and another guy I want to throw out there and the Cowboys, Dude dropped a lot of boisy State guys as John high Tower. He could give them some return flexibility as well. So any more of a day three guy thinking John high Tower in this wide receiver class, But really a guy I like, a guy who's fun for a creative offense, could doc things but also returned

kicks for you. Dave, You got anybody m thinking? I mean, we talk about them all the time, but I'd let Lynn Bowden Junior do just about anything like that guy can handle nineteen million different jobs. I'm trying to think, like, what year Isaiah McKenzie was the Georgia guy that came out. I don't have any like kick returns specialists in mind, but I'm also perfectly happy letting Tony Pollard do that in the future. So it's it's not something that I thought a lot about. Yeah, and I think I would

like Pollard in that spot too. Some guys that I know we've talked about before because they were both Senior Bowl guys, but James Prochet out of SMU wide receiver who returned a couple of kicks during his time at SMU, And then I know some of the same have been mentioned in that category as well, like a Kyle Dugger from leonor Ryan. I know he's been in that conversation. He was returning kicks throughout the Senior Bowl week as well.

So I think there's multiple opportunities and multiple players that can come out of the draft. I would like. Dave just said, I wouldn't necessarily tab them as specialist by any means coming out as return specialist, but I think they're gonna make an impact in special teams, and if not, Tony Pollard is going to be there. So I like that one overall. Okay, So we don't have Jeff Cavanaugh here,

who is the king of the comp picks. But with everyone here, with the extra comp picks coming next year, third, fourth, and fifth rounds, how aggressive for Dallas have they been in free agency? And do you think Dallas trade some extra picks this year to help shure up some of the wide receiver and cornerback and safety positions out of next year's draft trade some of those extra picks. That's

a great question. So okay, So I mean they, I mean they're they're obviously going to get compics for Byron Jones and Robert Quinn, Randall Cobb as well most likely. And they haven't made us signing that should affect that, have they because Poe and McCoy, well they might. They'll probably lose one for Gerald McCoy, won't they, But not Dantari probably and certainly Alvin Smith. Um, yeah, I can see that, but I don't see it being like a super aggressive situation, like you know, like a mega trade.

If you think back to the the Xavier Woods trade a couple of years ago that made us so happy. I think they traded a future sixth or a future fifth to get up in the sixth round and get him. I think they made that trade with New York. I could see him doing something like that where they're like, hey, we've got three or four picks coming next year, we can afford to make this deal. I could certainly see

him doing something like that. I don't think it's gonna be some sort of blockbuster, but if there's a guy they like and they need to get up ten or fifteen spots to get him on day three, I can see him doing something like that. For the most part, they they're sitting and picking in the Will McClay, you know, Era for the most part, but we have something to do. A couple of times there was trade for a player, I mean the table on Austa trade trade to pick

a player on another roster. I would just say, come at me with that question. After they signed your Dave Young Clowney, just kid, maybe not for having fun. Don't put that thought in the air. I mean, it would be great if they did it, but I just don't want to disappoint people. Bucky, what do you think about the possibility. Well, I think I think what you're doing with the compensatory picks, you're just trying to load up

the ward chifts. So if there is a player or something that you want, you have capital, but you also see that a top executive is what they do is they always trying to accumulate multiple picks in the next year's draft to be able to come up around. We've seen the Buffalo Bills do that. We've seen other teams try to use that to kind of put sweetener own deals, and so it's always advantageous to have a number of

confiscatory picks available. I don't know if you're necessarily thinking about next year and what could be in the wide receiving class or whatever next year, but I think for this year you just kind of like to have the ammunition just in case a talented player falls within range. Okay, this may be too insane. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to derail things. We could be quick here. Hypothetically this thing doesn't clear up and there's no football, what happens

to the draft next year? I think you're thinking at all as a front office, you have to think about that, right. I don't know if you necessarily think about that. I think you kind of prepare as if everything is going to proceed as is. I think you have your long term strategy where you're thinking about your team. You're looking at your team not only for this year, but the next few years, and you want to make decisions to ensure that you're able to compete at a high level

for the next few years. And so as you're stockpiling picks, it's kind of one of these things where you want to retool and rebuild while you're still winning. And so if you can kind of forecast to hit to what the needs will be, you try and make picks and try and kind of stockpile picks for that. A lot

of it will be determined. Like when you have your quarterback, and your quarterback is under wraps, it's kind of easier to figure out how to build the rest of your team around that because there shouldn't be hopefully any uncertainty around the quarterback. It should be easier for the Cowboys to kind of build in spite of all the uncertainty that may go on with COVID nineteen and what may or may not happen with drafts. One I think and answer your question, Katie, could also come kind of what

you see from other leagues. I mean, you look at right now major League Baseball is having to do a little bit of adjusting because the majority of their draft prospects, at least the ones coming out of college and even some of them out of high school, have been granted an extra year of eligibility, and so there's gonna be a little bit of a break and there's just not

going to be as many prospects overall. And so the MLB Draft over the next couple of or at least next year or this summer, I guess is when it would be. This June is usually when they'll have it. If it even stays the same. Instead of having forty rounds, they're going to five rounds, and it's condensing quite a bit. So I don't know if that would even end up happening for the NFL Draft, But like you said, Bucky, I know as a team you have to go like

normal moving forward. Should things kind of change, then you go and adjust. But that's definitely a great question overall, Katie, and it's something that I don't know of a whole lot of front offices, or at least a whole lot of media as even thought about that kind of possibility just yet. Now moving on to our next question, and this one comes from Jeremy on Twitter. Are there are any players in the draft that you have taken completely off of your boards, whether it be because of medical

or otherwise. Also, actually, we'll answer the second question first. Let's start with that first question because he kind of shifts gears a little bit. But any players that have fallen off of your board just yet because of character or injury anything, I would say no, there are players who aren't on my board because I didn't have a you know, I gave them a PFA grade, but I don't I haven't taken anyone off of my board for character issues or anything anything like that, or injuries or anything.

You know. The tough thing right now is because of the flux of the combine, the lack of combine medical rechecks and then the pro days, it's been a slow trickling and information and so teams will go up to the last minute before they get all the character background stuff on the players, and so we won't find that about some of those things. But there's a really good player who has an injury history who may not be on a lot of boards, and that is Nitin Muti

from Prisonal State, the offensive Guard. He is a guy that on tape when you see him, Look, he's dominating at the point of attack. But because he's had a series of injuries, there are a lot of teams that are going to completely kind of back away from him.

And with all of the uncertainty this year, a player like that who normally a team with Thord dart App, I don't know where he falls in this year's draft because people won't be able to really dig in hard on the medical without all the additional time and stuff that you normally would have. This feels like, I mean, obviously it's a weird year every I mean, I don't need to explain that, but I can't remember a year where there was so little information, you know, hover in

the air about players. You know, it's it's around this time, you know, word starts trickling out. Obviously, you know the Maurice Hearst was the big one that happened at the Combine. But this is the time of year where you know, you start to hear that so and so it's got a knee issue or there's a cartilage problem. And I wonder, you know, without without teams seeing these guys in the flesh, I wonder if that's slowed down that trickle of information.

It's honestly probably great for agents because they try to hide that stuff anyway, And you know, it's just another wrinkle that makes this draft so unique and interesting compared to other ones. Well, I think that kind of transitions into the second part of Jeremy's question. He said, is there any way to see who these teams are calling

with those skypes? With those zoom and I guess WebEx meetings that you're you're ending up having to go to for meeting these players because normally we're getting the thirty visits by now, and that would have already been at our forefront exactly who the Cowboys or insert team name here would be looking at with their thirty visits, we would have had Dallas day already or at least getting up to Dallas days. So there's plenty of question marks around it. But is there any way that this information

is going to get released? At some point? I just follow that Dave Helmet's Twitter account and wait on him to tweet it out. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly what you should do, because you know that won't get me in trouble at all. And fucky, I feel like you might have an answer to this. Yeah. So the thing is like the league has put some stipulations on the amount of times like guys can kind of FaceTime and do those things because you have to log it and get it all the way in because the league

being the league, executives would be running prospects hard. But weep again, excuse me to hear about some of the top prospects being on FaceTime having these skype interviews with teams, And I think that is going to be the big way, the way of the world as we go forward, because regardless of whatever is happening and what's preventing teams from getting face to face with people, you still have to

try and get to know the prospects. And as much as we want to think about it being a little more conservative this year in terms of teams not gambling, they're still going to be some teams to take some chances based on a couple of conversations that they may have with a prospect and the conversations that they may have with that person's representation. You could see those guys have more sway than normal because you just won't have the opportunity to get them in your room and sit

acrossing them and have those eyeball to eyeball conversations. There's I mean, with all of the question marks up in the air with how this draft is going to be kind of even conducted from a team standpoint, I mean, right now, facilities are still closed around the NFL. There's a reason we're not up at the Star right now. It's because we're not allowed in the building because the NFL has said so, and for the safety of everybody involved,

no doubt about it. But it does still present kind of an issue whenever it comes to communication and some of the information that's flying around. One final question here on Twitter on the twenty, and this comes from Dylan on Twitter. He sent a message he said, can we get a deeper conversation about all of the corners that

could go between seventeen and fifty one? Get some perspective on which to be happy with if the Cowboys do in fact go four cornerback in the first round at seventeen, so kind of exactly where those corners lie right in the middle of that jumbled massive corners between seventeen and fifty one. That's like gets fun. That's a Brian broad as special right there is, like I think, you know, I think it's the epitome of ice cream flavors, Like what do you like? I think everybody would agree Kuda

is in the class by himself. I think most people agree that Henderson is in a class by himself as the second guy. And then honestly, take a look and take your pick. I mean, Jeff Gladney, Christian Fulton. M oh gosh, I'm having a break. I've seen Diggs. People have him as high as like a top twenty five prospect, and other people have him as low as you know, a guy the Cowboys could pick at fifty one. Same thing for Christian Fulton, honestly, and I think that's interesting

because I think Diggs is such a freak athletically. I think it intrigues people, whereas like, I'm a little higher on Fulton's technique, but he doesn't have the freakish measurables. Um, and then you can get into the ig monogamy, you can get into cam Danceler Like, I don't have a great answer for you. I think it's just all about personal preference, based on your scheme and what you look for in a cornerback. I think they would take Trevon Diggs if Chase on CJ. Henderson ken Law dried out.

I think they would think they would. I think they would. I think they try to go back, but I think they would take Actually I'm saying is I think they would take Digs over Fulton. Um. I'm interested to see what they think about Gladne. I actually I've gotten Glade is my second cornerback. I like Gladney more than Henderson by it just a little okay, But you know, you know, my my guy that I think deserves to start getting

some third round talk. Maybe I know that that's outside the question of seventeen to fifty one, my guy, Reggie Robinson. Are people sleeping on my guy here? I think they are, I really do. He might sneak into the back of the second round too, you know, in a second round. The thing about the cornerback class, you guys mentioned it being kind of like flavors of ice cream. It kind

of depends on specified role. And I think outside of a Kuda, and I don't think a Couta has probably gotten enough at tension in respect in turn being like a top blue chip player because he's not a flashy athlete, but he's just a really good player, kind of like Stefan Gilmour was. C J. Henderson. When I talk to people,

people like the athleticism. There's been some questions about his lack of engagement when it came to tackling, but then there was an injury that will probably surface to say that he kind of played it, played it close, played it close to the vest down in the end of the year. I think when you get below that, when you talk about Trayvon Diggs, AJ Terrell, Christian foot Fulton, there are people that are thrown Jalen Johnson from Utah

in that conversation, Jeff Gladney from TCU. All of those guys can play on the outside, and I think as the league is trending, you want guys who can be tough guys, guys who can tackle, guys that get people down because you can no longer hide the cover corner. Cameron Danzler was someone that was getting a lot of attention prior to going at the combine. He ran slow, but I still doesn't think I don't think that takes

away from him being a really good player. And then when you go to what I would call it the specialist, the Darnay Holmes that are guys that are ideally suited to play nickel. I meet Robertson, who is a guy who is a ball hawk, who's tough enough to play on the edge. I really believe that depending on how you value cornerbacks and what you're looking for from a scheme standpoint, there are plenty of cornerback that you can pick from seventeen to fifty fifty one and be very,

very satisfied that those guys are gonna come in and start. So, if you had to give a ballpark number really quickly from all three of you guys, would it be five? Ten? Maybe corners that could be potentially taken in that realm? Three four, five sounds about right. I'm gonna I would split the difference and say like eight maybe. Yeah, let me see how teams feel about Damon Arnett and say yes, I think actually monogamy from Auburn gotta throw him in

the mix. So it tends a pretty good ballpark number. I think it's a good answer for the question you asked a minute ago about taking guys off your board. I think that's a guy only teams are going to know how they feel about him in his background, and I mean, I like, again, we're hearing less than I think we typically do. But I think that's going to

be a case by case thing for sure. Yeah, I think that's interesting what you guys bring up, Like I think Tippio, on average, in the first two rounds, you're dealing with about thirteen to fourteen corners that come off the board this year. What is appealing about the cornerback

class a lot of six footers. It's hard to find six foot cornerbacks in the league, and so this year all the top guys that we talk about are all around a six ft or taller more and that gives them a chance to kind of match up with the big bodies that we've seen dominate at wide receivers. So there's a lot of intrigue on that and a lot of these guys will come up in tackle. And I think AJ Turrell is a guy that we haven't talked about him maybe enough terms of being one of those

guys that can sneak in. But when I talk to people, his versatility being a play outside and inside, his toughness, his ability to blitz kind of serves him well to being a guy in the first round that kind of pops up and maybe goes a little high to many of us things. I like it a lot. There are a lot of corners out there that could be in that realm. And thanks to everyone who is sent in their twitter on the twenty questions. We'll bring that back next week as well. But we're gonna step aside when

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We believe it's going to be in stores next week, if not very soon after that, so print versions and the hard copies will be available as well. So moving on into our final segment, we've got about ten minutes left, guys. So we've got some Day three value picks that we've all kind of written down. We have three players each. Katie, We're gonna start with you just because I like your guys a lot overall, and kind of give me three

Day three value picks. This doesn't necessarily have to be four the Dallas Cowboys, but it just so happens that it ends up being in a lot of the positions of need. Well, yeah, and I'll start with the guy who you guys know how pretty responsible with my draft picks, and I think about the salary cap a lot. There's off. It's a tackle from South Carolina State, Alex Taylor, who I really like on Day three. He's so raw. He's

got eighty eight in charms. He's six eight, but he doesn't move like it because he's only three hundred ten pounds, Like you expect him to be like three hundred and forty pounds. He's not. He's gonna need development, but let's get him in the system on day three and maybe he's your future Tyrant Smith's replacement down the road if you trust the development of your players. I really like Alex Taylor from South Carolina State. Travis Gibson, edge rusher

from Tulsa. You know I would like about him. He's got a little good jolt off the line of scrimmat. You'll pop the guy back a little bit. I don't know how bendy. He is sixty three two fifty, but last year had eight sacks at Tulsa, and I think he does a good job, you know, playing with his long arms getting off blocks. I think he could be

a really solid Day three value pick. And then it's kind of my poor man's like Taylor, rat guy is Jaylen Elliott, the safety from Notre Dame on Day three, he ran a four eight zero at the Combine, so I realized the red flags are up. But I just like his demeanor. I think he's solid. I don't think people talked about him enough at the Senior Bowl. I think he had a good week there. Everyone was really talking about Troy Pride, but I thought Jaylen Elliot had

an excellent week at the Senior Bowl. And those are three guys I really like on Day three who kind of fits some needs for the Cowboys. I like Jaylen Elliot a lot. You talked about how he made some noise at the Senior Bowl. I thought he had a better week than Troy Pride Junior because I went in looking at Troy Pride and I'm thinking he was going to show out in the Chrome Dome, but instead it was it was Jaylen Elliott. Dave who you got as

some Day three guys? All Right, I want to talk about this guy because I'm I'm fascinated and Katie's talking about being responsible. I'm I'm looking for value, like it's Day three. Is there a guy out there who's better than that? Who I can find and the name that I absolutely love, But there's there's some uncertainty there, which makes it intriguing. Is Julian Blackman out of Utah, the safety.

If you're not familiar with his body of work. Three time All Conference three years in college, he's All Conference, played cornerback for two, switches to safety his final season, and the guy's All America four interceptions. Had a fantastic season, suffers a non contact injury in the Pac twelve title game and misses the ball game. He's still rehabilitating. I have not been able to find information on this anywhere, Like there's not a lot of information about what it is,

what happened to him. I've talked to people who don't have a lot of information, don't know where his health is at, don't know how long it's going to take him to recover, which is why he's a Day three pick. Like if he's perfectly healthy, we're talking about this guy in the second round. I think because you go watch his tape, Utah throws him back there. Like he plays a lot of single high plays, a lot of deep

free safety. He's got great instincts, he's a willing tackler, and like I said, he had four picks good ball skills, Like I would draft this guy in the second round if I wasn't worried about his health, and so my teams have got to get to the bottom of that. And it makes me wonder how far he's going to fall. And if you can draft him on Day three, even if he's not like one hundred percent ready his rookie season, I think that's still probably a good get. So I

love that thought. Another guy I threw up there is Darryl Williams, the center out of Mississippi State. Talk about losing Travis Frederick, I don't want to draft a replacement in the first three rounds, but Williams played guard and center at Mississippi State. Like he's certainly not like an elite level center, but I like his flexibility. And again, if you're talking about like a sixth round pick, a guy who can play guard and center. Love that we're

familiar with. My third guy, Kendall Willdoor from the Senior Bowl, had a great week down there in Mobile. I wanted to give him some shine because we talk about Dan Jackson all the time. Like, Dane Jackson is definitely one of my pet cats in this draft, but I like Villdoor two had a great Senior Bowl Week, had a fantastic showing at the Combine, ran a four four four.

So again, if you're talking about doubling up at cornerback, that's another guy that if you want to draft the Monday three to go with a Day one or day from cornerback. I absolutely love that. All right, let's hear about Bucky's boys. Well, you guys mentioned you're talking about having a pet cat. My pet cat is from Kentucky. Is is Lynn Bolden. And yeah, I don't expect him. I don't expect him to be the day fourth. But but there's so many wide receivers that he could fall

to Day three and be a fourth round pick. But when you talk about an at an athlete, he is a Swiss Army knife that every offense could benefit from. And in fact, Dallas just had Randall Cobb. I think he's Randall Cob. Plus he's more accomplishing what Randall Cobb was at Kentucky in terms of running to football and being able to do a lot of things. He hasn't been talked about to the level that he should. He is a really really good player. He's kind of that

Julian Edelman Hanes Ward do everything playmaker. He is someone that should go, but if you like, if he's too highly regarded, then Isaiah Coulter from Rhode Allan as someone that I like. Smooth route runner, does a great job of catching the ball, wins to fifty fifty, showed up, ranwell, ran faster than most people anticipated. He has a chance had running back. Maryland had a running back Anthony McFarlane. Because Tony Pollard had so much success, their teams are

looking to find that guy. Anthony McFarlane could be that guy. A bit of a pocket rocket, super explosive, but when you go back and look two years ago against Ohio State, he had two hundred yards on the ground. He is

someone that can pick up steam. And then my final guy because I got a bonus pick Evan Weaver for cal There are a lot of people that don't necessarily talk about the guy that looks like buzz Lightyear, but when you look at the production, four hundred plus tackles during his career at Kal ran four seven to six at the Combine, which quieted a lot of critics. Smart, tough, physical, typically plays for a while in our league. He is someone that is undervalued but could play for a long time.

I like it. I like it, and I mean, going back to your first guy, I think Lynn Boden Junior is one of the greatest value picks you could even have in this kind of draft. And that just kind of goes to the depth of wide receiver because I think, like you said, there's so many wide receivers in front of him, he's gonna fall back a little bit. He's gonna be right back in that fourth round conversation, maybe into the third. I think he should go in the third.

But if he's there in the fourth, I don't see why not. Somebody's gonna take a chance on him. Okay, so my three guys really quickly, Ope, go for Bucky. No real quick, Kyle. I'm sorry, Kyle, real Bucky. If in your expert opinion, where do you think that you would have to draft Lynn bow and you said you kind of doubt he falls to the fourth Like is that realistic? You know, I don't know, because there's so many, Like just think about the number of wide receivers at

the day. I would think third round is a good spot for him because he brings so many things. But we've seen stranger things happen in the draft. Who knows where he falls? All right, Sorry, I've seen stranger things. Yeah, you're good, but just real quickly. My three guys. I've got McTelvin they call him oh Man. What was his name? I forgot Sosa, they call him Sosa. A gem from Arkansas, a guy who was a top ten rated defensive tackle

according to Pro Football Focus. A little bit small on the lower half is what I have in his countering report, but he's a good pass rusher. He projects as a three technique, but I think he could play the one. I think he ended up playing nose tackle for about twenty percent of his snaps while at Arkansas, dominated the Shrine Game, was a late addition to the Senior Bowl and actually performed well on both ends. And a guy who went up against SEC talent throughout his career with

the Razorbacks. He's somebody that I think could be a value and I think will be there Day three. And somebody who's gonna need a heavy pass rusher up the middle or a quick maybe more of a finesse pass rusher than a heavy one, just because I think he's got a couple of moves that are in a vast arsenal moves that could potentially go in his favor. Another guy,

let's go to the safety position. This is a guy that Dame Brugler mentioned at the combine, but this is Kenny Robinson out of the XFL, the Saint Louis BattleHawks, And this is a guy who you look at the kind of situation around the XFL initially and it was going right up until the draft. Now, with COVID nineteen throwing a wrench into that season and into the entire process, he'll potentially be picked up without a chance to finish off his XFL season, which could potentially push him down

some draft boards. But I like him a lot. He's a good cover safety, He's a ballhawk overall. Could come up and play slot corner, could go and play a little bit of box safety, but he's more of a free and I think he's a guy who shows some versatility of that position than my last guy. Should kill quarterman from Miami, And this is kind of one of

those very niche oriented prospects. If you're gonna blitz a lot of your linebackers and you're gonna find a way to rush with your edge linebacker, that's kind of the fit that he's gonna fill. If he's going back in coverage, he's a liability. That's why he's gonna fall to Day three. But he's got a lot of tools. He's got a potential to really kind of show some niche talent there

overall as a as an edge rusher. But I like what he has in store, and I think if you put him in a three four and let him try and rush a quarterback, I think he's potentially going to be a guy who could present some value. But those are my three guys overall. I like that there's a lot of Day three guys that kind of get me excited about it. Hell yeah, I mean, dude, that's what's That's where it gets real fun. Is like when you're trying to pick out Oh we're talking seventeen, we'll talk

fifty one. No, who are they gonna take it one seventy eight? That's what I want to know. That's where it gets really fun. That is where it gets fun. And we'll have all that coverage for you throughout the entire draft process, but that is going to do it. Here for this edition of the Dallas cow Boys dot Com Draft Show, presented by a Miller Light. Bucky Brooks, thanks so much for stopping in and joining us on

this morning. It's been a blast talking with j. It was fun, a lot of fun, guys, a lot of fun. But just want to remind you one more time, go get your digital edition. This is These are the old print editions, but you can get your digital edition of the Dallas Cowboys Star Magazine Draft Guide. And also, I'm about to go eat me some of the Papa John's that they've got delivered as well, So I'm gonna go take my Papa John's pizza and scarf that down because

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