Draft Show: Tight Windows

Ayisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans. As we now welcome in our second guest in our second episode this week, we've got Dame Brugler from the Athletic lead draft analyst over with the Athletic and Dane Welcome back, sir. It's good to see you in person. Yeah. Absolutely, it's not the Combine until I get to sit tell with you guys. You know, we broadcast the Draft Show here, so yeah, no, this is uh, it's fun. It's a it's a busy week.

I mean we always learned so much this week, not just on the field, but behind the scenes and just all the buzz going on. I mean, this is and it's not only draft, I mean this is where every you know, almost every GM, almost every head coach is here. This is where a lot of the free agent deals start to you know, the groundwork starts to happen, and so you know, there's so much going on. It's just sometimes you could feel overwhelming because you try to embrace

it all. But uh, yeah, it's been a busy week and barely gotten started. Oh yeah, I feel like we're just getting under way. I usually I feel like you're probably in the same boat. First combine, I mean, what is the has it just been drinking from a fire hose? Is that really what the information has been flowing at you? Like over these last couple of days. You need a nap nap, I need a nap nap. No man, it's it's just for me. The idea of just being able

to be around football to this level. It's just something I didn't know if I was going to ever experience, and just it's just a whole bunch of people that love football and it's a dope feeling being here, really is. And you get to share a desk with Dame No man about to be jealous. They've about to be jealous. Now it's cool to meet the man and the myth beligiend No, I appreciate that though. It's a I enjoyed doing the podcast with you guys a couple of weeks ago and said, has to be fun to do it

in person. It's already shown number three for you, so that's pretty wild to think about too. Usually we have to get you on the combine and that's the last we hear of you, and people love you, so it's dope just to talk to you, hear your perspective. I mean, the line you gave to us before, he was like, yeah, that's that's why you're here, right, Yeah, he gave us a little sneak peek at the beasts that's coming out on the Athletic, which, of course is the best draft

guide out there. I will say that, no doubt about it, that one in the Star magazine Draft Guy course. But yeah, those are the two things that that I'm looking forward to the most. And it all, like you said, it all just kind of starts funneling together with the combine. All this information starts converging in on each other. What's been the biggest storylines that have stuck out to you here over these first couple of days. Still a long way to go. Interviews go all the way up until Sunday.

Workouts go all the way up until Sunday. But what have you seen so far and what's stuck out? I just had to make sure it's Wednesday, Okay, so it's Wednesday. Uh yeah, no on field stuff yet, no measurements yet, So but we have. Today was the first time we saw prospects coming through for you know, defensive linemen, linebackers.

Chance to talk to those guys. Obviously, the biggest news probably the Jaylen Carter news about you know, the warrant for his arrest with h you know, leaving the scene and uh, you know, we just we don't know enough details right now to really dive into a subject like that in terms of how it's going to affect his draft stock, his football future. Um, you know, it's a sensitive subject obviously, so we just don't know enough about it.

But talking about the biggest storylines from the combine that has to be you know, you know, kind of lead it off. And he was supposed to speak earlier this morning. Of course, with this being Wednesday when we're recording this, he was supposed to speak this morning. The news broke this morning too, so he didn't end up making it to the combine. Since then, reports are that he's going to return to Athens, where, of course the incident happened.

And like you said, so little information, so quick on the turnaround of everything that just happened. But he was your number one prospect and your most recent top one hundred on the Athletic and I think you're not alone in that fact. I think a lot of people, a lot of teams had him as the number one prospect. Can this shake that and will this shake that? It's early to tell, but it's kind of it looks that way at least in the early going. I mean, this

is why the combine is so important. It is to be able to sit down with these guys learn more about them. You know, you can watch the tape and see what a type of players they are, but getting a chance to interview them and learn about them as people, that's such an important part of it. Especially at the top five pick. You know, we're investing millions of dollars into you, and you know you're gonna be a face of our franchise and a building block to where we

want to be and all that. So you know, with Jalen Carter, it just became a little more complicated. And you know, since he he won't be here, Um, he's gonna go back to Athens to take care of that, which you know understandably, So that pushes the timeline with you know, as teams trying to figure out, you know, Jalen Carter and how this could affect things. So we know what he is on the field, he is a dominant player. The line I keep coming back to with him,

the block destruction is special. But now as a person, and you know what, there was already whispers about character concerns, things like that. I was told from a scout that went through there that he wouldn't characterize it as character concerns. There's more just immaturity, which you know, for a lot of twenty twenty one year old players in this draft, you could say that about him. Know they're they're young.

I don't. I certainly don't want people to go back when I was twenty one years old and to judge me, I mean it's you know, none of us want that. So uh, you know, it's something that has to learn to be a professional. But obviously this new updated information clouds things a little bit and so it is as long as you know, there's time before the Bears have to you know, run up the card with the name

on it. There's always time for something. Remember a couple of years ago with the gas masks Laramy Tunsil, like that happened that that day, that night, and so that changed things. Um, so with with this, with this card stuff, you know, time will tell. We'll give it time to breathe, let it play out. Um but you know, it wouldn't make any snap judgments that he is or isn't going to be that number one player in this draft. So

it's it's it's interesting definitely. And when the announcement came through and we were getting the notifications on our phone, you could you could literally feel the energy here change, like everyone kind of went into the state of you know, what's going to happen and everyone's asking questions and wonder

what was going on. So that also to me put in perspective like how big of like how big of a deal it would be if anything happened, and that this player just has such importance on this draft, it seems like, and how things could play out. So I'm I don't know, I felt the disappointment and stuff in the room like you could feel it, you know, yeah, And even though we know little, it just still was like like I personally was like day, Well, it's one

of the biggest draft storylines you could have. You think about it. You've just mentioned the Layami Tounsil situation. You think about some of those other prospects in the past, even some of these big storylines. Most of the time, they're not around the number one guy, right, this is

the top prospect potentially in the draft class. So the fact that it's merged with the two and on a week like this where everybody's together, there was a huge, massive humanity around his podium earlier anticipating him walking up. Of course that ended up happening, but just the pure energy of the anxious arrival of these prospects and the anticipation of finally getting to hear from a lot of them, and then this is kind of the news that breaks it was it was. It was a bit of a disappointment,

a bit of a letdown for the most part. And you have to wonder, how because obviously with the number one pick and you know, the Bears trade or you know what's going to happen there. Something like this changes kind of how that conversation plays out. Um. You know, if you're if you're the Bears, you're hoping for that phone call with the monster offer for you to trade back. Um. But now with this news, does that change anything with

their thinking? So you know, it's definitely has an effect on about how we you know, project those first few picks. It's it makes things a little more complicated. Now. We talked a little bit earlier about that Bear's pick and

whether or not they would trade it. I don't want to spend too much time on it, especially because it is a Cowboys draft show, but with the Bears specifically, if somebody's gonna call, get on the phone and bring that offer, that massive offer that it would take to take the number one pick, is that going to be for a quarterback or if could it be a non quarterback like a Jalen Carter or a Will Anderson at the top of the draft, though I think it's a

quarterback all the way. I think if it's going to be that price right right exactly, And you know, look look at the top ten, there's probably what four teams that are realistically in play to move up. You look at the Texans at two, Colts at four, the Raiders. I mean, you don't roll out the Seahawks either. I mean that sure, Pete Carroll and John Schneider have said, we're all in on these quarterbacks. We're paying a lot

of attention to them. But you know, I'd still be a little surprised if they took a quarterback in the top top five. Six picks, the Raiders at seven, and then the Panthers at nine. I think those four teams, you know, it's they're jocking for position. You know, we here's the guy we want, but you know is gonna be there for us? And so what does it what type of trade packages to take? Meanwhile, the Bears are like, you know, give us all the packages, get all the

other trade packages, get your best offers. I wouldn't be surprised we see the Bears trade back twice. I think there's gonna be some panic with quarterbacks and like to try to get a hold of them early in this draft. Like, I really do think quarterback could change the start of

this draft drastically. What do you think that's the thing. Yeah, you know, that's that's where I think we're all kind of in the dark because each one of these quarterbacks are talented, but you can put holes in them, right. You know, It's like, we don't have a Trevor Lawrence this year. Where Trevor Lawrence was, He's going number one, doesn't matter who's and one, He's going one. I don't think we have that guy this year. So, you know,

could Anthony Richardson be the first quarterback drafted. It's nothing possible, you know, if the team really believes in his ceiling and what he could be. Uh, he's such a young player. You know, he has under four hundred past attempts in college. You know, it's it's hard to find those guys that have, you know, such meager experience. So um, you know the quarterback carasel at the top is going to be really

interesting and shape out things play out. But yeah, again from the Bears, Uh, okay, let's let's take a trade offer from go to one to four and then hey, the Panthers are calling. They want to get up to four. Okay, let's trade back to nine. And meanwhile you're looking at the Bears. They have Justin Fields as their quarterback. You're going to next year with three first round picks, and you know, Okay, if Justin Fields works out, great. If he doesn't, well we've got three first round picks that

go up and get Caleb Williams if it won't. So I think the Bears are in a perfect situation to to do this. I was literally just I'm starting to interrupt you. We were talking about it, but I was just we were talking about how much no one else what time about the Bears, but just how much the Bears have to fix and how they how much they have to build and just how like to me, I'm like, how long do you you know, do that with Justin Fields,

like until you start seeing improvements. So when you mentioned something like that and not saying he's not a great player and stuff, it's just like I don't want him to be wasted with them in a rebuilding phase either with the draft picks. So yeah, and because you figure, you know, a year for now, you need to start talking extension with Justin Field. Yeah, you're already there, right,

You're already there. So the chance to reset the quarterback the rookie quarterback clock is a factor that I don't think enough fans really understand. It's a factor in how team to operate. Sure, especially if you if you need that outside help, you need to go and spend money and free agency and in order to win, or if you don't have the draft capital, which the Bears could acquire that draft capital by trading backwards. But it's not something that's out of the question to maybe look at

resetting that rookie quarterback clock. Something to keep in mind as we move forward. Now, let's take a look deeper down into the draft class, because how could that sort of domino effect affect the Cowboys Because if these quarterbacks go early, We've always talked about it, at least over the deck era. Get these quarterbacks up there. Let's take as many quarterbacks. If we could take twenty five quarterbacks

in the first twenty six picks, that'd be awesome. Let's get it done right, because you want the best players that are non quarterbacks to slide down to you. If there is let's say a Bears team that's able to acquire two, maybe three first round picks, you've got a couple teams already in front of the Cowboys that have

multiple first round picks. Does that hurt or does that help their chances to maybe try and stack the board a little bit in their favor to maybe get a first round graded player that deep into the first Yeah, and you know, I think this is an interesting draft because I don't I don't know how many first round grades they're gonna have. Usually there's you know, between eighteen and twenty two first round graded players. This year, I don't maybe they might not have them anymore. Where do

you stand in terms of first round graded? Know, it's I'm more a little fewer than that. I'm more closer to fifteen, you know, like it's I don't in my I mean, no, you're right now, you're right. I think I think I'm about seven seventeen. No, that no, And that's it's just it's not not a ton of blue trippers. You know in this draft where it's certain positions you love the depth, you know, you tight end, pass rusher,

running back, really good depth. But in terms of the no doubt about it, this guy's gonna come in be an impact starter for us. You know, it's hard to find those true first round grades. But you know what, uh Tyler Smith was was he you know, he was a blue strippers though, but the draft in first round and uh, you do a redraft tomorrow and he goes top ten. And they were confident in it too. They were they had a first round grade on him. And right, right,

right right, that's being confirmed. I mean that wasn't just blowing smoke. They believed in Tyler Smith at twenty four last year. Can they get lucky again a couple picks later. That's the biggest thing to your point, Dan, Like, I what I could see there maybe being one tight end taken in the first round. If that interest in a good tight end class, I don't think I forgot That's what I was about to say. Listen, hear me out. I actually started, even though I looked into a few more,

and I was impressed with some of them. I really liked that a lot of these guys are starting to just have more of the receiver qualities. I think you're starting to see a shift in so bad to a fact that if a guy has drops as a tight end, we're like, oh, he's not that good, Like God, he's a tight end like that you'll out. So the position is starting to interest me more. But I looked at Tucker Craft. Don't kay, those gentlemen, your favorite ten that you've seen so far. I don't think Kay was brought

to my attention from from Utah. He's brought to my attention. I really started looking at I walked him last night, I looked at him today. And when you're talking about what do you want to tight end in this generation of NFL, he's kind of that dude. He's kind of that dude I have, sorry I have down the field. Threat has a good feel. A lot of tight end to me is feel like how do I feel the defender? How do I shift my weight or whatever the case? Maybe angles And I think he has a good feel

for the game as well. And um, he's a former basketball player. You see it in his strong hands and how he really grabs the ball with his hands. Tight Ends are supposed to be a QB friendly. This is a guy you can throw. You can throw the ball up to and be like he's down there somewhere like I and I think that's helpful for any quarterback at this point. But I just think his hands are so strong and he can get some things done after the catch.

Yak abilities seems to be important now and tight end like what are what world are we in right now? Like what are Jason Witten with some of these I'm just being honest with some of these guys from maybe ten years ago. Make like be a tight a standard tight end right now. We ain't got linebacker. We'll get right, We'll get there. But yeah, that's he is my favorite watch so far. There's other guys, but certainly understand that he I think he might be the best pure ass

catcher in this draft. And receivers too. Wow, he is that good as a as a just a pure pass catcher. His ability to isolate the football, go and get it come down. And then to your point about the yak, he's very very efficient catch boom run like it's just it's a fluid motion. You're you're not overthinking it. So yeah, I totally get it. My my big thing with him is just is he a tight end? You know he is he a bit just a big slot because you know what he weighs in at this week will be interesting.

You know, you go back and look at tight ends that are below two forty five. There's not many many guys and he's at two forty six three two forty right, Well, we don't have a fit because he wasn't at the Senior Bowl that's right, and so we don't have the official measurements yet. Um in the spring, I think he was two forty one, so you know he's now could he put on five pounds, sure, and you know we'll

have to see how that plays out. But that's because he's more of that that f tight end, that joker, the guy that's a high bread You want him in the slot. But you know, I like, like Travis Kelsey's two two hundred sixty pounds. Yeah, like people always say, oh I want Dallas Clark. Dallas Clark was two hundred and sixty pounds. You know, like people need to remember

like this, he's still tight end size. Where a guy that Kincaide and so, and that's maybe and that's not a bad thing if he's just a big slide because you can still be a very productive pro that way. But I think that's the most important thing with these tight ends is they all offer something a little different. You know, Kincaide's a little bit different than Musgraves, who's a little different than Mayor. And so depending on what your offense wants, you're gonna look at these tight ends

a little differently. I have a question for both of you, how because I wasn't into the draft. I was into the draft, but not as much. How much did Peyton hinder shot way? I can get it to you because give me two seconds, because I think people could could have personally. I think some people would have said the same thing about or similar things about him, because if I'm not mistaken, Peyton only had like four drops his

whole career. He was that receiver at that receiver, but he two fifty, have a really huge build two fifties where he waited at the common well, Jake was six four plus two fifty, so he was Jake has a little bit more size and you could see that in this game. But hendershot Um I thought that some of the reason why he went undrafted was because of size

and blocking ability. So when you talk about Kincaid, I mean, I think Payton is someone that is going to have success in this league as he, you know, continues to develop. But that's the body type seems a little similar to me. I could be wrong, but I just was asking you guys. The lightest tight end to get drafted last year was Chick goes zim Oconquo from Maryland's two thirty eight and he was six two. So you talk about a guy who could maybe be a big slot, he was kind

of fitting that mold. He wasn't as good of a pass catcher as these guys that were talking about with Kincaid, but well another Dalton, Dalton Schultz forty four at the combine, So a guy that was below that two forty five mark,

and he kind of built into that. Yeah, tighten is a position obviously how to play it, but the size and learning how to use your weight, sit your hips, all this stuff isn't It's important to me because I look at these shelters and I feel like he's really gotten a better understanding of the field and just how to angle his body and stuff and how to shift his weight break tackles. He doesn't break a lot of tackles, but when he does, it's because he's shifting his way

and I think he's learned it. He's learned how to do that and be fluid and still go. And I think, just you know, to your original point about maybe one going in the first round, it would be really interesting when we have such a talented group of tight ends at the top. You go, okay, let's go back fifteen years and look at the list of first round tight ends.

It's not an impressive group. It's really not. And but you go back and look at it the top tight ends drafted second round, it's actually better in the group of drafted in the first round. So why is that? Well, And that's the thing, it's like, how do you Each team will look at it look differently, So it's like, okay, well we'll just we'll draft to tight end in the

second round. You know, it's not quite that easy, but you know it's there's something at least to that where there for some reason, these first round tight ends have not I mean, okay, the last fifteen years, the tight end drafted in the first round who has lived up the most to his potential is maybe in Joku, maybe Hawkinson. I mean it's not it's not really that impressive. Rooms kind of falling into that with a different team. He's kind of funny to get right. What round was dollars

Goddard taken in second second round now Barnacles. Yeah, but also too, I feel like tight end is very similar to what you said. Some people are going to look at Musgrave and be like, hey, yeah, because of the run blocking and all that stuff, but then a lot of on a show here, just telling you right now he's gonna put on a show. Yeah you think so he is. I think he might be one of the best athletes here, regardless of positions. Hater tidds And he's had six five, two fifty five and he's gonna run

around like that, I tell you. Okay, he was a four sport guy in high school. See if you can name the four sports. Um, okay, football, football, basketball, because he's a tight end. No, no, now this is gonna get interesting. Baseball nope, Oh my gosh, water polo started getting weird ultimate for his bee baseball Nope, no baseball, No, okay, is a swimmer? No? Come on? Three more wild track, track, the big put that one up there. Socer nope? Two

more tennis? What what sports are we talking about? Are he wrestling? Is he wrestling wrestling? Okay? Producer Alex brought that one out. That's a good question. What are the other two? Uh so, okay, he prepped in Oregon. I don't know if that helps or not. Lacrosse. Lacrosse? Okay, lacrosse, but I thought that would be satire. No, the real sport, but I didn't know there's not not every school offers lacrosse,

Like it's not just my first. West Coast is big time lacrosse to the East Coast is a tough fourth one is skiing. So no way that as I said, the hips the bout, yep, exactly. I think that's where he gets a lot of it from. I think you can see it on the football field, So I do think Musgrave is gonna put on a little bit of a show here well. So my question to that, no,

you're okay, thank you for that. But I I feel like the tight end position because like when we talk about the second round being it's like it's a skill position, but it's it's not like I feel like it does. It takes a lot of skill, but I think people feel like they can develop that skill as opposed to you need to have it right away. So I think that's why folks decide to you know, scouts and stuff, they decide to go later in the later rounds. But

I believe it is becoming a skill position. I believe that it's becoming and it's always been like the security blanket, you gotta have a good tight end, But now it's like, you're tight. We saw a tight end change the Super Bowl game. Like he's done it plenty of times. But I'm just saying, like to see the impact that a good tight end can have on the field as a receiving threat. I mean, the Chiefs lost most of their

receiving threats and the guy still went off. So you look at the three of the four teams that were in the title games this year, Great Travis Kelsey, George Kittle, Dallas Goddard, the top probably the top three outside of Mark Andrews. Sure in the league, right, make that argument? Yeah, so yeah, tight end is legitimately in. And how many of those tight ends were drafted first round? No? No, absolutely zero. It's like, you know, taking the point that

point here. I think he was huge on Kyle Pitts a couple of years ago, don't fully, and everybody was, Yeah, I loved him. I'm not sure what's going on there, but it needs to be free. It just needs to be free, and he could be a player. I still have hopeful of him. I do too, Yeah, but he'll get there. It's you know, we talked about this a lot with running backs, right about positional value in the draft, and you know, is it okay to draft one in the first round? Is okay to draft one here? Tight ends?

It's kind of the same thing. When you look at the track record a tight ends drafted where they are, you know you better off just waiting a little bit. So it's it is. It comes down to strategy and just every team's gonna look at it a little bit different. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch to see just where these tight ends fall because there are some top heavy tight ends. You mentioned Kinkaid out of Utah, Mayor out

of Notre Dame is right up there as well. And then you got Laporta from Iowa, Darnel Washington from Georgia. As unique as they come. Yeah, Craft I really South Dakota State. You can see his running back, his running back background, and his vision and how he sees the field as as a tight end. I mean when once he once he squares and he looks at the field and surveys like he's a problem because he can see different, you know, little crevices of where to where to cut,

and where to go. I'm excited to see where these tight ends go because I'm intrigued by the position. Sure. Honestly, I ran into tight Ends coach Linda Wells last night and he wants to be on the show. So maybe we'll have to try and pick his brain too and see how that goes. He's like getting me on the show. Something on Tucker Craft that you know, you'll you'll you'll find in the draft guide. But so his phone was blowing up in the off season. Alabama wanted him. A

lot of Power five teams wanted him. We're talking like six figures, uh and il Yeah, and he decided to stay put the South Dakota State. He decided won a national championship. He did, then I think they would have beat Iowa if he doesn't get hurt that he's an opening game. Yeah, I think his impact was that great. Uh. And then he was a close game. So you know, I really think that they would have they would have

won that game. So I need to elevate Tucker Craft out of South Dakota State over Sam Laporta from Iowa's what you're telling, that's what I heard. I actually like Laporta. Yeah, I actually might. I think this J And I think Tucker Craft is mouldiple. I think I feel like he can do he can. He can run block pretty well, but also he passes the ball well. I think he's

a good in between that. If he gets a little bit more coaching and gets a little bit more fluid in the position, he could be he could be a player for sure. He's multiple in my opinion. Here you go, keep your eyes on the tight ends because that's gonna be a fun physician to watch. All Right, we gotta take a first break. When we come back, We're gonna do some twitter on the twenty and we're gonna hit a lot of prospects. That's what we're gonna do the

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don't have the sounder Dame, so it's gonna fo me. Hey, we're pretty good, all right. We have this one question. I don't want to say his name on air because I feel like there's something weird here, but uh, tell me more about defensive end Felix on udca Uzama from

Kansas State. Correct, YEP, A late bloomer who you know, really didn't have a ton of offers coming out of high school in the Kansas City area and uh like he was gonna go to North Dakota State at one point and Kanda State came into mix really late, and you know he red shirted. He was a young player and he just really blew up. I I like him a lot. He's really productive. I from my pass rushers, I want a little bit more at the top of the rush in terms of just being a little more

most of them getting around the corner. But how do you argue with his production? You know, he's he's a guy that just um and he's really smart, Like he's he's a guy that sets up his rush. He studies his opponent. He knows the blocker he's going up against. He knows how to set a trap. He knows, Okay, this tackle. You know, he's setting hard on his outside foot, outside foot, so he's gonna push up, push up, push up, and then go with the inside move. I mean he understands.

You know, a lot of pass rushers they're just gonna go throw this kitchen sink at him whatever. But this is the type of pass rusher that understands the type of blockers he's going up against and then how to use that against them. So that even though I'm not like super high on him, like he's on a top fifty guy for me, but I really like him in that day two range, and I think He's gonna have a long NFL career because of how intelligent and cerebral

he is at attacking the quarterback. What did you see, Ayesha? I have not gotten to him yet. You haven't know, and I'm not about to sit up here and talk to him like I have. That's like, that's fine, That's why Dane's here, That's why we gotta get literally, yes, have you seen Mozzi Smith? Yes, from from Michigan defensive lineman. We didn't get a chance to hear from him today. He got caught up in medicals and he never actually

made it to the to the media side of things. Uh. I've heard some background interest from the Cowboys side of things because he's one of the best run stuffers in the draft, or at least that's his calling card coming out of college. Have you seen what have you seen from him that would impress you? And is he an option at twenty six? So? I mean yeah, like we were talking about, it depends on what you're looking for

because a lot of these dts or d lineman. I feel like with the Cowboys, they've gone for guys who can rush the passer, but then they're going to stop the run. On the way to the passer. This guy right here is a run stopper. Do I think he could add, you know, some some pass rush stuff to his arsenal. Absolutely. I wanted to ask him to day that today to see if that was something he's working on. But he is such a willing run stopper. You see

him at the bottom of piles all the time. He is not afraid to get in there and get and get dirty. But also too, I like how he disengages. I like how he gets guys hands off of him. And I was looking at him the battle between him and Steve a Villa, a Villa from TCU, we talked about it. I wanted to ask him. I felt like that was his hardest battle and he, I mean a Villa took him. They went at it and it was

one of the best. To me, it was one of the best matchups I've watched, just man on man, power on power, and also technique on technique because to get off of the blocks the way that Mozzi does, I'm curious to see how well he two gaps. If he does decide to two gaps. I feel like that's something in the league now that some guys can do when some guys can't. I talk to Hankins about that in the locker room, and he was just saying that it's

it's you you think more. You have to think more when you're two gapping, and if you make the mistake, if you're taking yes, yes, yeah, And so for him, I feel like, if you want a guy to come in and eat up double teams and and two gap and possibly two gap later on, I think this is a guy you can bring in and immediately see a difference just from the middle of your defense, and he gonna get bigger, He's gonna get a couple of sandwiches in him. Dude, Like he's already, Dude, he's gonna um. Yeah.

I mean, you can't watch you can't watch Steve a. Villa and and not see this battle. Like you have to look at that battle. It was a real serious technical like towards the later the later quarters, like Okay, you're starting to know what I'm doing. I know what you're doing. It's just power. So he has one tech, three tech versatility, right, he can play anywhere in the interior.

He was strictly a nose for for Michigan. He was a guy who's gonna you know, the tilted nose where you know he's gonna take on a lot of doubles. And that's why his productor you look at his production, it's not gonna impress you. Yeah, they get a grand total of six tackles for lost in his career, maybe a half sack, that's it. But when you look at what he was asked to do, um, I mean he was more than fine occupying that role. Um. You know, he's he was number one Bruce Feldman's Freaks List. This

guy is a just a power, powerful, powerful guy. Talking to Mike Morris about him the Michigan defensive end, he just he's like, you guys don't see what I see in the in the weight room, in the locker room. The way this guy works, we call him the gorilla. Like he's just unbelievable, uh strength, like it just comes from all these weird places in his body. Um. So yeah, he's he's a guy that's unselfish doing the dirty work inside.

But I do I do think there could be a little bit more in terms of getting upfield, of attacking gaps and so yeah, Mozzi Smith, I'll be I'll be shocked if he last out. If he falls out of the top forty, it's more of a question, Okay, does he get into that first round or not. So in that part pretty much comes down to teams in their belief how much you know the pass rush potential? What is that? Yeah? Would you take him in the first round?

Would he would he? If he's one of those guys, yes, Like we just it depends on what you are looking for, because some of these dts, like I feel like moving forward, some teams are looking for some pass rush ability from them, So I really think that could maybe be a knock

on him, quote unquote. But if you just want if you just want a guy to come in, I mean, like we talked about it, feel like the Cowboys for the first time in a long time saw what a true nose can do for your whole defensive line, how it frees up your linebackers, how it frees up And obviously Hankins is not a gentleman that you I don't know, if you're gonna you plan on keeping for an extended period of time. I would love a gentleman like this to come in to man the middle of this defense

and the kind of slow down the run up. So the name I wrote down was Brandon Mebane and you know, he maybe that's not a sexy name, but the importance that he had to those Seattle defenses up front, like that's you know again, he doesn't he's not talked about it a lot because he's not gonna light up the stat sheet, but he was so important to what Seattle did and a lot of the you know, winning seasons they had, So you know, if you can and then you get into the conversation, Okay, is the price right

in terms of the value of a first round pick, and but I think that's what you're looking for in your defensive line. Yeah, I mean you can absolutely, uh you make a case that he belongs there in the first round. Interesting to keep an eye on. I, like I said, I've heard interest, I really have from the Cowboys side of things because of his run stuffing ability.

And it sounds that everything that you're telling me right now, and I don't know a ton about the background of the player, but all the background you're giving me at the moment, it feels like a Cowboys side it sort of pick this the type of guy that that Will McClay is going to to kind of rally around and put into his locker room and keep an eye on

Mosley Smith moving forward. All right, Well, a combine, a good combine for Detroy or Datavian wis Datavian Wicks with that give him a three to five round possibility for the Cowboys if he has a really good combine. He is he's tough because you watch his twenty twenty one tap and you're like, Okay, this guy is big. He's talented wide receiver from Virginia by the way, yes I don't say that, but then you watch this twenty twenty two film and it's it's a disaster and it really

just the entire Virginia offense was below average. It was tough to watch. But Wicks really struggled this year. But I you see the talent with him, and so he's one of those guys that I it will probably take me the entire process to get a good read on him where I feel comfortable, Okay, this is what he is what will be at the NFL level, because it was just so night and day different junior year to

senior year. So the drops are frustrating with him. But he's a big athlete who can make plays down the field. So I think, you know, right now I've got him in that fourth fifth range. Could he get in the top one hundred? Sure, I think it's certainly possible because again, he's big, he's athletic. I think he'll do a nice job here at the Columbine. And want to see him

in the gauntlet. You know, like we talked so much about the forty and you know, the three Cohen things like that, But the position drills, the position specific drills, um, that's a big part of this too. You know, for defensive lineman, I want to see him run the hoop.

For wide receivers, I want to see hi run the gauntlet where you know you're gonna see their focus, You're gonna be able to see uh, you know, their ability to stay straight and balance on that that white line, how quickly they pluck put it away, keep going, uh, how quickly a pick up the football. So yeah, that's that's a big thing for Wicks is to see how he does the gauntlet this week. Why do you think

that is? Why do you think because he's not the only player I think a lot of people said can say the same about I mean, I person can say the same about even Will Anderson as a comparion in comparison to last year. Why do you think that is? I've heard different reasons. Are different reasons as to I know, my draft stock is here, or a team's figuring out kind of what you like to do, your tendencies? What do you what do you kind of attribute Wicks kind of his his m his tape this season in comparison

to last season. That's you know, that's that's the job of the scout, right, you have to be a private detective. You have to figure yet. Okay, let's let's dive in. Look at okay, coaching, change, injury, new quarterback. You know you have to take all these factors and figure it out. It really is like you're a you're a detective. You have to take the evidence and come up with the conclusion.

And you know that's that's why, you know, scouts have to be fortune tellers, they have to be psychologists, they have to be detectives. They have to be all these where all these different hats, and a guy like Wicks is a good example of how you really have to be a detective. Um not so much the person, but the player to figure out Okay, what is the big difference?

And with him, yes, new coach, new offense, but same quarterback. Um, you know, so you know what and that's why he's a little frustrating is because of you know, he still saw plenty of targets. He should shouldn't have struggled as much as he did. But um, you know, definitely want to do more work on him. But I think he's in the mid round discussion. That's interesting to keep an eye on because that's one of those under the radar guys, right,

that's an under the radar guy who could merge. I think you were talking about guys who had a drop off in tape. I think Kashan bout Booty. It is Bote. I think he's in that same conversation, but it was two years ago. So it's twenty twenty where he really broke out, or twenty one where he broke out and then worked into twenty one and twenty two the way that he did. So interesting case in both of those scenarios, keeping with wide receivers and you could maybe we can

broaden this out to any position. Chris Olave surprised everybody last year with a really impressive forty time. Is there someone who could surprise us again this year? It's a good question from Brady. Did he surprise us? I mean, I think we thought it would be fast, going to be fast? Yeah, Joe Brady's surprised. Okay, Brady, Sorry, Brady. Is there anybody that could surprise us? Who are some of the fastest forty times that we can anticipate? Let's go through that. Well. I'll give you a guy who

could surprise UM, Cedric Tillman, Tennessee. Okay, the quote unquote other Tennessee wide receiver, UM Jalen Hyatt is gonna blaze. But Cedric Tillman, the other Tennessee wide receiver. I'll tell you what. This guy is an NFL starter and at six three, two hundred and fifteen pounds, would not be surprised at all if he runs a sub four four

five in the forty. He can move and he's a little linear, you know, like we'll find out about the short shuttle and three cone, but the jumps and the forty I think are gonna be really impressive with Cedric Tilman. I'm I think four under four four five or under and above forty inches in the vertical. It's very, very possible for for Cedric Tillman. So, um, you know, I think he's a guy to keep in my top one hundred.

He was like seventy or something like that. He I went back and watched a little bit more of him. He needs to be higher. I think he's. I think he's the top sixty guy. You know he's you plug him in Courtland Sutton. Um, you know, a faster version of Nico Collins like he's he's because he's a big body. He can win above the rim. But he's got speed as well. So I think Cedric's Tillman could turn some

heads this week. All right, can I say a running back? Absolutely? Okay, I was trying to say, you know, I was trying to make sure I had his name right. Pittsburgh running back Israel. Uh there, I'm a conda. I think he people know he has burnt don't have no. I love it. I know he has like he has on field, like his his separation speed is so serious breakaway speed. Rather, it's sane. I think the dude is. And he also runs on his toes. I noticed that about him. He

runs on his toes, which is a track thing. It's he's a track guy in high SCHOOLM I might know, I might, I might have been reading on. But yeah, this this guy right here, he's he breaks a lot of tackles. He's insane in the open field. I think he's gonna blaze that forty. Also, four three is possible for him. I agree, he's gonna he's gonna turn some heads.

And he also to me, he's one of those, like we were talking about, one of those guys that might be the I don't know, maybe fourth, fourth round, maybe fifth round running back. But if he runs that forty the way that I think he is, because we already know there's a difference between on the field speed and then the forty speed, if he puts it together, some people are gonna be wondering. And his amen I like. I like him a lot, so I like saying his

name abandoned conduct. He's a perfect example of why you know you don't necessarily need to go draft and running back in the first round because oh lord, here you go the depth, second, third, fourth round. I mean, you can get that guy in the early fourth, maybe late third. You know, I think he's My only issue with him is the contact balance. Yeah, he's Yeah, he's not. He's not in every down back. He's not a guy that's gonna run through people. He is going to break tackles

because of angles. He I think he understands angles well. And I also think he understands when to accelerate at the right time when he hits the hole. There's he has. I think he has just enough suddenness and shiftiness to kind of balance out the fact that he does not have a whole bunch of size. Yeah, some pop will destroy pursuit angles with the way he can gear change and then yeah, like you like you're saying that that's suddenness.

I agree, um, but but no, it's the holes won't be as profound in the NFL to be able to do that. So you know it's like, Okay, full time back probably not, but a guy that could come in and be a really productive part of your offense, Yes, he can definitely be that. So like potentially on a team that like franchise tagged running back in the off season, that with it. I mean, I don't know, ye might like to use running back and you maybe use him

out of the backfield and maybe block sometimes. Yeah, No, that's I like his hands too. I think he has like he has strong hands. For you know the times that he did get to try to show his receiving qualities. It looked natural to him. It didn't look like, oh, I'm running back and I'm just now learning how to catch the ball. It was like, I'm catching the ball in motion as I'm in and I think that's a

running back. It's important. It seems to be more and more important these days when you're talking about running back. There's a Cowboys player Israel MCQUAMU. Why not just have Israel Abanaconda. I mean, why not, Let's just let's just double the real, real quick out of those two? Is the real Abaniconda out of pit and Devin A Chain out of Texas A and M Two running backs? Which one's gonna run a faster forty this week? Which one you take a jeans might pick for the fastest anybody?

I think he's my favorite. I'm gonna I mean, I'll go with a chain there. I mean, he's just he's got that scary speed um and you see it on the field. I mean, obviously he ran track for a in him. Uh went in March he ran a twenty point twenty in the two hundred meters and it put that into perspective. Medal in the SEC Championships well, to qualify for the Olympics, you have to be at least you have to be under twenty point two four, and he was twenty point two zero, So wow, I mean

he just scary specks. So this is a football player first, track athlete second. But I am interested to see where does he way in it. He's listening at one eighty five and you know that's not many running backs or sub one ninety in the NFL doing big things. So um,

but you get to factor in. As soon as he was done with football, he joined the track team, so it's not like he really focused on adding weighty probably lean right exactly so, but preparing for the combine, preparing for the NFL, how much does he get to weigh? So I'll be paying close attention to his measuables when they come. A couple other sandwiches to kind of fit into it and try and build them up a little bit. Yeah,

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We'll make it happ Jared fours One heading the Dame. That would be a storyline, I'll tell you that much about it. All Right, We've got Dan Brugler, I Usha Morris, and I'm Kyle Yeoman's here from Radio Row in the Indianapolis Convention Center and the twenty twenty three NFL Combine. This is not the last time we're gonna have Dane. We're gonna have him tomorrow as well, so stay tuned for that. Tomorrow afternoon we'll have another episode out, but we'll wrap things up this way. I want more, tell

me more. I asked this question to Bucky in the first part of this. Okay, since the last time we talked, who's been your favorite film study? Who's been your go to guy to watch it? Somebody that maybe you didn't watch a ton of early Maybe you went back. You mentioned Tillman Wide Receiver from Tennessee a little bit ago one. Is there somebody else that's like that that when you went back and watched him it really stuck out. Oh that's a good question. Um, yeah, Cedric Tillman would be

one of them. I don't think I was high enough on him. Um. I liked him quite a bit. And he's a guy that wasn't at the Senior Bowl, so um, you know, I think he was a little out of sight, out of mind. But yeah, you know, almost have to go back to his twenty twenty one stuff to really appreciate how good he was. Um, let me, I'm looking through my list right now. I mean, Lucas van ness I, I think it is really really good. Okay, he's and

he's gonna he's gonna blow it up here. He's two seventy five and he's gonna run the four fives um out of Iowa out of Iowa. Yes, uh, hockey player growing up. You know, that's where he got that physical uh, that agility, but also that physical uh natured that he plays with. It's fascinating. A guy with zero career starts in college is gonna be a top twelve pick. But I do think Lucas Vaness uh could end up going

that high, So you know he's in that mix. Um. Oh, how about a guy we talked about earlier, Ivan Pace. I mean yeah, just uh, I don't know how you can watch his film and just not appreciate just how hard he plays. Um he is. He's just gonna try and run through you, you know, and it's he'll learn in the NFL he can't always do that. But um, I want that energy on my field, on my team. UM, and I want that. If he told me he moonlighted as a m M A fighter, would not be surprised

at all, Like that's that's that's how he plays. And so um, you know, I think he's a guy that you just appreciate more and more. And Okay, well, how's he fit on your NFL team? I'm not quite sure yet, Like, is he you know, can he cover, okay, play special teams like there's there are questions that need to be answered. Oh I know. Is he's just a darn good football player. And so the more you more you watch him, the more you appreciate him. And it's like, man, I just

I want to find it. I wait to get this on my team. To your point, I was at his interview and he talked about wrestling. He wrestled for thirteen years, and he said he's played he wrestled as long as he played football. And he said, if you're if you're playing linebacker like you need to be, you need to wrestle sometimes absolutely, and and that's actually what I have

hard to get your hands on him. He diagnoses really well like you were talking about, and he just like you said, he is one of those guys that you have to really in your mind kind of throw out all the stuff that we're supposed to know about linebacker and just enjoy watching this player play football at a high level. Like it is like that with him. So it was dope hearing him talking. He's not he does not care about his size at no. No, he is not thrown out and as someone that's five one definitely.

I felt that, like when he said when he said today, he was like, I don't I don't care about you know, I don't really care about how Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's me. We agree, But no, like he's he's been one of my guys, Like, all right, so I've been looking at you know, because I've been looking at guard, you know, trying to This guy's actually a left tackle. Anton Harrison from Oklahoma. Yeah, okay, got to see him. I watched him play some of the left guard that he played,

and it was pretty pretty good. I thought. I thought his past his pass pro is what's really impressive. His feet just keep moving, he doesn't stop, and his I think his punch or his arms are good enough to where he's like he can keep you off of him or just keep that just enough spacing to where he's almost like a nuisance to me in pass pro, where if you're a d N, you're probably annoyed by the fact that you you can't get to him, and also too, I believe one dang it, I believe I actually think

I saved it. There were one one of the dns today spoke about him and talked about how he was one of the Felix. Felix, Yeah. He said that he was the toughest, the toughest offensive tackle that he faced in college. He said he has he has quick feet, aggressive hands, and he was like, he's the best tackle in this class in mind opinion. Wow, which is really high praise from a guy we just talked about g

n wise that is through the roof. I I just I also too, I watched him against KeAndre Colburn from Texas, who's someone that I mentioned on the Draft show, and KeAndre got him that first couple plays at the game and it was crickets. After that, it was real quiet from KeAndre for the remessag. He's actually one of those guys too that once he figures it out, he figures it out. And he's young, he's very he just turned

twenty one years old like last week. So smart. He even has the ability, like we don't see it that much in a lot of offensive linemen until later in their career, but the ability to have the awareness to disengage, help out their buddy and get back on their their play. It's something that even I think Tyler Smith had to

learn and get better at this season. He does this well already, so I was just seeing a little bit of the flex he had to step in that guard this year, well in twenty twenty two for a few games, and I thought he played more than well enough there that if you did design to maybe man he gets some coaching, this guy might be a player at guard as well, even though he's left. What do you have. I mean, he was like number sixty on my top one hundred. So yeah, i'll tell you what we've seen

Worset tackles go in the first round. So if Anton Harrison ends him going in first round, that shouldn't surprise anybody. That's just a value to the tackle position, right, sure, absolutely, And so I mean he's Anton Harrison's a good player who um would not be surprised at all if he ends up going top forty, top thirty, because you know, the a lot of what you said, the light feet, the h the fact that he just heard twenty one.

You're his entire rookie year. He's be twenty one years old and he's still learning, and you feel not just who he is now, but what he's going to grow into. Yeah, it's pretty exciting. Natural Cowboys valued that with Tyler Smith in his youth coming out of college. And even though he had experience, which Harrison does as well, you have that youth to kind of combine the two with it. That's something to keep in mind as well. Tell me

more about Keyon White ed Rusher out of Georgia. Fascinating background. Um, and you talk about a guy who Okay, his junior year in high school, he was a two hundred and five pounds center. Okay, wow, no buzz on this guy as a recruit. Was this like a two way school or was it like a legitimate Yeah, he just his barn Or high school and Garner, not North Carolina. His body hadn't developed, you know, like that type of thing.

And then he moves to tight end and defensive end as a senior and no offers until like right before signing day and Old Dominion gives him a shot. Okay, So he goes Old Dominion. He's a tight end, he's a blocking tight end. He's got like eleven catches. And then they say, let's try to move you to d End. Moved to d End, Okay, and then COVID happens, and

so he has the Old Dominion cancels their season. He's like, I want to play so he transfers to Georgia Tech, and then before the twenty twenty one season playing basketball just dislocates his ankle, so he's out basically all of twenty twenty one. Came back, but he wasn't one hundred percent. So really this year is like the most we've been able to see him healthy and at defensive end. And

he's a freaky athlete. Yeah, but six year six year seniors, so he's pen in college a lot older guy, but he's another guy that's going to test really well here. He moves really cleanly, he's got power to him. He's two eighty five, but he moves better than some guys

that are two hundred and fifty five pounds. Yeah. I that's one of the things I wrote down about him was we don't know, like it could be really he could be really great sure, or injuries might be a thing because like you said that, they have attacked him really this last couple of Yes. But to your point, Dan, he is such a presence on the field you can I've obviously I've never been on the field with him, but I feel like you could probably feel him and

the speed to powers there. I feel like the hand tech could get a little bit better. But at the same time, I think he disengages pretty well as well. I was impressed with him. I'm just a little on the fence with the nature of especially when you start talking about ankles and stuff like that with a guy that you mean as a as a d and you need to be able to do all those things. And he Um, he's really smart, he really he wants again a real estate like he's he's he's he's very business focused. Um,

he was an interesting guy to talk to. Um. But you know he's again, he's an older guy. So what's the value of a player like that? Could he go first round? With his traits and the way he's going to test? Absolutely, I think he could end up going first round. I think he was number forty for me in my top one hundred, So just outside um the first round, early to mid second round is where I have him. But I wouldn't be surprised if someone jumps

on just the pure talent that he offers. Yeah, if he ends up sliding into the early parts of that first round, it would be a tough conversation or early parts of the second round, it'd be a tough conversation for the Cowboys to try and pick him up, because at twenty six it might be too rich, at fifty eight it might be too soft. You know, you never really know with a prosect like that. Again, with that ability,

you know, I can I can get it. He's he's uh, he just turned twenty four years old, and so you know, how does that factor in? I think when you look at his journey, we just laid it out, he's, you know, really late to the position. So he's he's got upside. Most twenty four year olds don't have upside. This guy does. Yeah, so you gotta have a good coaching staff. All right, who are you most excited to watch going into the drills tomorrow? We will have one more show before the

drills happened. We'll talk a little bit more about what could maybe come of that in tomorrow night's coverage. But who were you looking forward to seeing? The must For me, it's gotta be Will Anderson. You know, I think, do you post the numbers of a potential top five pick? You know, I mean the tape check that box, you know you see it on the tape. The stats, even though his junior stats weren't as good as a sophomore. Stats still check that box. He was outstanding in terms

of production. What does his ten yard look like? You know, ten yards split? What's the three cone look like? You know, just the how does he run the hoop in the position drills? I want to see him look like a top three pick, top five pick, because everything else about Will Anderson says he is um. So I just want to see it on the field, just to kind of

because again, that's what the combine is. It's it's cross checking exercise, making sure that you're verifying what you saw on tape and what you see in the stat sheet. It's verified here. I just want to see Will Anderson be able to do that. I got can I say too? Yes, of course, so Dwan Jones, Yeah, Ohio State is one of the gentlemen I'm really looking at because we only saw him for one day at the Senior Bowl. He

came in there. He showed his feet look far improved from what I saw to him at the Senior Bowl. At a few drills that we saw him doing prior to that. True, true that I saw him struggle with the speedy edge rushers and he put he puts him in a seatbelt in the Senior Bowl. So I want to see how he chat man. Yeah, and I think he could change. I think the conversation between about him and Osiris could could change with this, with how they grade out, how they test here. Wow, um, so those

are my that's those those gentlemen there. And then also to Will McDonald, is a guy that you know already like Iowa State at another multiple sport athlete, skateboards, martial artists, all this stuff, credible balance. I want to he strikes me as another athlete, like just a crazy athlete. I want to see how he tests. I think he could help his stock because I know a lot of people were worried about his size and the run game stopping very lean. But if he tests well, I think it

could change the conversation a little bit for him as far. Yeah, and I think he's gonna test well because that's that's what he is. He is an athlete. So even though because I do have questions about, yeah, his ability versus to run and for a fifth year senior who's gonna be a twenty four year old rookie, I wish he was a little more advanced, you know, for where he is I still feel he's like a little raw in terms of his set up with his Russian moves and

things like that, but there is no question about his athleticism. Yeah, he should tear it up here. I don't, so I'm not gonna be blasphemous. I'm not gonna say that. But as far as the rawness, the athleticism and stuff, no, I'm just saying, like, we've seen a guy like that and he got some coaching and he's better. Who's that number eleven, Michael Park? But I'm just but with with

d ND right now. To me, I'm looking for I've been telling you pursuit and athleticism so important to me because of how much the RPO was involved in this game, run action, that stuff. The guys that aren't that athletic at end are struggling show up there. It's like, it's sorry, please don't give me tank DeMarcus Lawrence, Fantastic is stopping the run. Fantastic is stopping the run. But when he got put on on an island a couple of times

this year, there were some struggling. I think we've seen that with other players too, So I'm I'm looking at the pursuit and how much of an athlete you are, because I think the rest you can kind of coach, but the pursuit really is important to me in this in this league, in the way that it's being played right now. Oh that's that's well said. Um. One other guy I would want to mention Zach Harrison, who we didn't get a chance to se get the Senior Bowl.

But what's cool Ohio State. Uh, this guy is going to test big time and he is two sixty five and I'll put the over under on this forty at four five three. That wow, Yeah, he's got that thing. So I want to see. Um, I want to see because he's he was in high school he was a sub eleven second one hundred meter guy. Um, he's got big time speed. He's really long too. He should have over thirty six in charms. Um. So, Zach Harrison. If you're looking for a linear rusher with speed and length,

Harrison's your guy. This is a big human two seventy. He's gonna be rolling two sixty two seventy probably you know. Yeah, don't get in his wife fun stuff. This is what we look forward to in the combine is chopping in up like that and we're gonna do that a little bit more tomorrow with Dan Brugler from the Athletic Dane. Thanks so much for hopping on and thanks for the inviting to talk to you again tomorrow. This is this is what I come here for. This is what the

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