Draft Show: Setting The Stage

until the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. But the weight is over for the twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys Draft Show, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas. Alongside the great David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, You've got Kevin Turner across the table from the Athletic and then from one oh five point three the fan mister Jeff Cavan on Boys. It's time to get into draft coverage in twenty twenty. It's crazy to think that that journey is

finally here. Oh man, Kyle, I know you've got some experience, but you've got the voice for this man. Let's for those of you just joining us. Yes, Kyle Yeoman's were glad to welcome you to the studio. I think if you watch our programs are familiar with our stuff, you've probably heard him behind the scenes a little bit, joining us at the desk. And I'm excited about it. Hell of an intro. Thank you. Sorry not to steal your thunder ahead. It's fine, let's do this thing. Let's do

this thing. And I mean, there are plenty of storylines going around the draft already. I know, Jeff, you're a gigantic wide receiver advocate for the Cowboys in the first round. There are plenty of wide receivers to pick from. I quit though, I'm out, you're out, backed out on it. Yeah, why as soon as McCarthy shouted out Randall Cobb during press where I was like, all right, Cobb's coming back. They're gonna keep Cooper, They're gonna keep Gallop. So I'm

gonna have to let it go. You can't do that on January eight, I gotta let it go. No, you don't. I can't have CD him is already done. Can't have rugs. When has common sense ever stopped you from pounding the drum that you want to pound? That's a fair question with weird wording. You're right and no, yeah, but I'll have to find another gallop guy. I'm have to go find a third rounder. I mean, we're jumping way into the micro very early. But like that doesn't mean anything

to me. Like you got to see the market. Randall Cobb might not necessarily be back. I'm not ready to give up on that dream. Yeah, like he was. He was probably gonna show up to that press conference no matter what. Right, Yeah, but then McCarthy called him beautiful, and I think he called him in this move. He did this little move a thing to be here. Yeah, but you know, I think Randall Cobb gets a better offer.

I have reat, especially after the Cowboys paid Deak and Amari Cooper and they can't give we can't give you ten million dollars. We're gonna draft Henry Ruggs and prosper Oh see, I was thinking he's gonna come back in another one year five million dollars. Yeah, he's gonna be that. It's possible. Yeah, it's very possible. But wide receivers, I mean there's plenty, not even just like top three round guys, but there's a little bit of depth in this draft

that I think you could go after that. If Randall Cobb isn't the answer, then potentially you could go after in some of the later rounds, but also just quarterbacks high. Maybe not the quarterbacks for the Cowboys per se, but there's a bevy of guys in the first round that you're gonna look at. Are we ready to are we ready to rule that out? Hold on? Hold on, hold on, let me let me just let me ask you. Let me ask you here today an honor of my friend who you need to be challenged here. Two of makes

it to seventeen. Oh, your doctor says his hips fine, he's gonna be fine. It makes it to seventeen. Okay, we had this conversation two years ago. Lamar Jackson makes it to seventeen. Are you asking me? Are you asking me me as not you the Dallas Cowboys. I'm asking Dave, not the Cowboys. Didn't we do this? Oh, I'd be No, I can't do it. We did this invader ash year, right, Yeah, we did we. Jake from makes it to your third round pick, Jake from your third round pick? No, come

on man, no, okay, sorry, I'm there too. I like how we're so far in the weeds. Eight minutes into this thing. I love it. That didn't take very long at all. We are going to hit a lot of the Cowboys position needs and once coming up in segment three. We also got Twitter on the twenty and segment two, but kind of wanted to start things off just kind of general thoughts guys of twenty twenty. I mean, I know it's January, it's January ninth. I mean, we've got

plenty of time until April twenty third. But right now, as you look at the draft overall, what is your feel as to what this draft is going to be known for. I mean, I'll start right here. I mean, we kind of covered some of it already, but I think Tuah's health check at the combine is going to mean everything in the world, because that changes everything in the top five, top ten, top one. I mean that could really throw everything, throw a wrench into everything. If

Tah's hip is good or bad. I mean, who knows if he would have declared if he was if he got a hey, you're not good, you should probably go back to college. But go back to college and get beat up again, or maybe I should go to the NFL now, So there's a lot of ways to think about it, and I think that's the story because I think, no matter what happens, I don't think it's clear that Burrow is ahead of Tuah if Tuah's health is good, but it's not, And don't you think that that is

a pretty big red flag honestly. I mean absolutely, he's dealing with basically the Bo Jackson injury. I know it's not exactly the same. I mean, he's he has been banged up for the vast majority of his college career. He has not had a healthy season. And that's why we talk about this in six weeks after the combine and then there's a medical check and all that stuff.

But what's interesting about it is like we we all went to the combine, the Jalen Smith year, and there are differing opinions on that, and there will be like there will be guys that don't have two on their board, there will be teams that are in love with them.

I completely get that, But I just think there's enough of a concern there that I don't think too could possibly be in the conversation at number one overall, not with the it's the Bengals a lot of time, Dave time, I actually have a pro day a lot of time to a lot of time. Kyle asked, like, what the what is what is the hallmark for this draft? And like that's okay, So do y'all agree with me that Right now, I'm looking for where the drama is going

to come from? Oh serious, Like because it doesn't. You don't think it's gonna come one. It doesn't look very dramatic right now, Like, Oh, the drama is who's gonna jump up? Who likes Jordan Love, who likes Justin Herbert? Who likes too? Do you think falling to people who have their picks waiting in the teens or do people start jumping so you think you think quarter I mean, and quarterbacks dictate so much about the top of the draft, but you see that happening this year. Keeping one on

the Florida teams. Miami has a pick at five and eighteen, Jacksonville's gonna pick at nine and twenty um, and you could say that both of those teams need quarterback. Possibly. Let's I mean, if we're going to real quick, Cincinnati needs a quarterback, Miami needs a quarterback. The La Chargers could draft a quarterback. Absolutely, Carolina Panthers might need a quarterback.

The Jags might need a quarterback. And you're looking at that Indianapolis and because here's a quarterback Hayton on Gardner, Minshew over there, nice Hayton, I said, on our guys. Fine, the Raiders have two picks at twelve and nineteen. John Gruden could do something crazy. If you want to go get a good player, Tampa might not go be in. I mean, Bruce arians doesn't sound enamored with Um Jamis Winston. James is the thirty thirty guy. He is the one and only the only thirty thirty guy. Oh yeah, I

kind of respect it. Frank up Or. Yeah, the Indianapolis front office doesn't sound ballard. Excuse me, thank you. Um. I just think myself, it doesn't sound sold on Jacoby Brissette being the future there They shouldn't be. Um. Pittsburgh probably has to worry about the future with Ben Roethlisberg being injured so often. So yeah, I just talked myself into quarterback being a pretty dominant storyline. As it always is.

To get well and wait till Herbert and Love have a good Senior Bowl week, and then people start talking about a Jordan Love from Utah State, Herbert from Oregon. Once those guys go to the Senior Bowl, maybe those guys mump up and then always, you know, think about everything. We cover the whole draft here, but the Cowboys are picking at seventeen. So I want as many quarterbacks going

and the seventeen as possible. Unless and I can hear people listening right now that they're like, unless you're not sold on dec okay, But yeah, well yeah, I'm not gonna do that today either. Yeah, I'm not gonna talk to those people. I don't have time for you people. Okay, I don't have time for you people today. I was gonna say, I'm Mike McCarthy made it easy for us, Like Mike McCarthy introduced as the ninth coach at the

Cowboy That's something we need to get into too. Absolutely, a very exciting thing about this draft is that we it's going to be different. Yeah, it's gonna be refreshing because you can't sit here on January ninth right now and say, oh, they don't like nose tackles or oh they don't like safeties, because we have no idea who's going to be coaching those positions or who's going to

be valuing that draft stock. And that's fascinating. Also with all the turnover that is inevitable, with the amount of free agents in the amount of roster that we're going to see change going into twenty twenty, there's a ton of positions you can go for. You can go defensive line in the first round. You could go with the secondary. I mean we've even thrown in quarterback. I know that's

a completely separate topic. Wide receiver even then there as well, there's plenty of places you can go with a new staff kind of at the helm. I really think quarterback and running back are the only two positions that I can't imagine the Cowboys spending a draft pick on in

the first round. Offensive line you could talk me into it, actually I wanted to mention that, Okay, which but I mean, yeah, it wouldn't It would be surprising, but not like completely out of left field, because we've seen the injury issues that Tyrant Smith has dealt with. They haven't been able to nail down the left guard position. And I wanted to bring this up this it seems like a tackle heavy class, like this seems like, there are a lot

of good offensive tackles. I'm not saying it would be the best thing for the Cowboys to do, but you could find yourself a swing tackle slash left tackle the future. The Eagles just did it with Andre Dillard last year. It's always awkward, though, when you draft a guy in the first round and then after the round, as we're recapping the round, we're like, well, here's the thing. You hope he never plays. Yeah, use the first round pick. Hope he never plays. Hope that your tackles are healthy.

It would not be ideal, but I could make a case for it, sure, especially especially if you're picking at seventeen and he's your tenth best player in the drafts and then your next best is a running back and your next best is a you know, and you're sitting there going, okay, guys, do we really want to skip over eight? Guys like, do we want to not pick our tenth player so that we can pick our seventeenth best player who plays a position that we like. It's like,

this is how we screw things up. You want to screw things up. Tackles become a position too, where he kind of gets top heavy and there's still a lot of work to do on this year's draft, but over the years we've seen struggles if you're trying to reach and plug and play or get a guy late in the draft at the offensive tackle position, I think we need to be talking about cornerbacks. Yep, but that's gonna be a corner. There's gonna be a lot of corners in this draft. You're gonna have a top two corner

of safety. Probably it's gonna be a corner or Safety's in love with that. You're you're making that call eleven minutes into the first show of the year. Yeah, it's gonna be a corner of safety. As soon as I'm telling you. As soon as McCarthy said hie to Randall Cobb in the back of the room at the press conference, I hit the little X. I was watching a receiver and I closed it, and then I clicked over and

I started watching Grant Delpit. I was like, all right, so let me just go to the secondary getting a receiver. Safety fun Chris Beam, our expert and veteran producer behind the board, please clip that out and I would like to revisit it in the coming weeks and months. Okay, it's gonna be delp it about that. Okay, so there's the cop I'm here for it now, or an LSU corner.

The Tiger secondary is gonna come to Dallas now, Katie, you mentioned top heavy in terms of tackles and offensive tackles in the draft and wanted to get to this Dane Brugler from the Athletic of course one of the was he a founding member or one of the actual No Dave shouts out as Brian used to do this all the time. Brian brought us an ed K Hill, the founding members funding ed K Hill. It was his his idea, baby, it grew into this. Dane came along and uh made it the most in depth show ever.

We miss you, dearly, Dane. Rest in peace to those guys we miss you dearly. Not they're not dead. They might they might even pop up on this show show. But uh, yeah, special thanks to both those guys brought us and and Ed and then also uh Dane, but wanted to get into his top one say we're still going to use your work, Dane. I don't even don't

get diving into it right now. But you mentioned offensive tackle Andrew Thomas, who a guy from Georgia A lot of people had very high, maybe even as the top tackle. Now in Dane's most recent update to the Top one hundred falls to the third offensive tackle, he's number twelve overall. That one kind of stood out to me. But it also it goes to what you were saying with a

top heavy offensive tackle draft. There's three in the top twelve, and that's why I think the Cowboys would stay away from that at seventeen, just because, I mean, again, the Lyle Collins contract is something that happened that I didn't really foresee that was going to happen. But I think I think in the eyes of most people on my board, I'm looking at my board right now so far and

again it's early. I tread lightly in January, but it's the Alabama kid Wills, it's Worth's from Iowa, and then Andrew Thomas's offensive tackle three, And there's pretty good players in the second round at offensive tackle if they wanted to mess around with that. But I just think the Cowboys are gonna have so many more glaring needs, whether

it's defensive front, whether it is secondary. And then, as this happens every year, thirty percent of the roster rolls over, so you know it's I have our time being real declarative in January about like what they need, because man, free agency is gonna come and become a board. I don't expect them to be heavy players in free agency, but they had a lot of things they can do. And you're gonna have a franchise tag and a transition tag, what happens with Byron, with Robert Quinn. There's so much

that can happen. I enjoy starting the show this early because it allows us to you know, you got to dive as deep as possible. There's fifteen hundred freaking players that are eligible for this draft. But it's going to change so much, and it does drastically every year, Like by March twenty first, we will have completely changed our opinions on what they need or what they should do. Well, we don't know if they're a four three or three

fourteen exactly. That's a which question. We don't know. And after that pressor I, if you made me guess, I would guess three four because I think it's easier to just say we're gonna do what they've been doing. That's what the roster is. But the answer was, you know, we'll see what you say. Signed to Marcus Lawrence, can you play three four? Sure you can stand up. That's there's a lot of people who seem to think he can stand up. Actually I'm not necessarily one of them,

but I think you can drop very often. Well's, I know what you have to do in that position. You're on A four two three four runs of four two A four three runs of four two. We're playing nickel. Everybody's playing nickel all the time. I get it. It doesn't matter. That's play the fun out of it, though it does take the fun out of it. But I'd like to apologize for taking the fun out of them.

If they were to do that, I think it would be a more gradual transition than they're just playing three four on September tenth next year, hybrid action, a gradual transition back in there. I like it. But actually to that point, and yeah, I'm just I'm ripping off Dane's top one hundred. I love you, Dane. I'm not sorry. Looking at it, Okay, you go all the way to you know, and this obviously isn't a mock draft, but you look at the top seventeen players the Cowboys pick seventeenth.

Seven of them play positions that the Cowboys probably have no interest in drafting in the first round. And if you include Clemson linebacker Isaiah Simmons, which I know he can play about eight spots, I'm interested. I didn't say you shouldn't be. I'm just saying, if you consider him a linebacker, that's probably another position the Cowboys would rather not draft him. Set you know, worry about it. Okay, you're undermining my point. I'm just saying it's my fault.

There's as many as eight guys that they would say, ah, we can live without him, and that's really encouraging. It's even more encouraging. And I'm not trying to be a homer for Grant Delpit. But again, if this was last year, I would say, they're not gonna draft a safety in the first round. Are you crazy? They don't do that? But they might this year, and I know can't tell me that they definitely won't. So Grant Delpit from LSU his twenty nineteen tape ass awarts on it. You won

the Thorpe Award, Katie. He's the best I know. I know he had not earn the Thorpe Award, but it was. It was a lifetime achievement award. It's a lot of mission should have won it last year, but you dive into a little bit of what's going on with him, and he had a shoulder injury. Dude, when you don't have range of motion in your shoulder, it's very hard to wrap up at running backs. Like the mistackles. You would see it and go, okay, yeah, you'd like for

that to be better. I watched some twenty eighteen tape on him. He's not missing those same tackles he was missing in twenty nineteen. I would advise anyone that's down incredible on Grant delpit a watch his twenty eighteen tape and then watch his games against Georgia and Oklahoma LSU's two most recent games. He's still pretty damn good. He can play. He's really good, and he deserves to be top half of the first round consideration still in my

opinion now seventeen. Again, we did this a few years ago. It's way different players and not comparing the two. We saw Derwin James slide just because the league didn't seem to value that position very much. But Derwin James can do everything. Strong safety, free safety, you know, wears him the right way nowhere. He was drafted exactly a seven and we were the Cowboys, were were nineteenth at the time. A lot of people wanted him to trade up Layton

Vander esh injury plagued second season. I still think he's gonna be okay, But I would argue I think Derwin James is a better college prospect than Grant Delpit. Do you agree? I agree, yeah, yes, and they and he felt seventeen, so he filled a seventeen. It's a very realistic scenario. So I'm picking him. He'll be there. Okay, He's gonna be there. In safety class is better this year than it's been in years past. You're gonna have some names. The Alabama guy, Zavier McKinney's gonna come to mind.

Ashton Davis California. I love man. I think he's like him a lot. Second round pick, and you're picking in the middle of the second round. I mean, if that's the area you want to go. But this team had a chance to get a safety last year in the second and he's playing in the playoffs. He's probably gonna make a play on Saturday wan Thornhill or Sunday, whatever, damn day they makes a play. Every time you watch the Chief, you're gonna hear his name Colts too. Yeah,

it's fine. It's fine, guys, because it's it's not fine. Hey, it's not fine. The Cowboys will pick twice this spring before their first pick last year. But will they be zeroed in on who they're picking already before they get to the pick, or will they actually pick the best player available. That's where it thinks things have changed because we don't know. Tell, Yeah, we don't know. All right, Well, I'm just asking the question because I'm I'm just trying

to make sure our process is sound here. It's weird because Jerry Stephen, Will McClay, we well know they're still in the mix. It's very unpredictable now, especially when the coaches, many coaches of changes we had, like some of these coaching hires aren't officially yet, so I want to comment too much on any of these things. But yeah, but the names you're hearing, Yeah, you're hearing a lot of experienced names, a lot of guys with a lot of

skins on the wall. I mean, I'm excited and you're right, a lot of the same decision makers are still in place. The scouting department is going to be more or less the same. But you can't assume anything right now. You can't assume any of the storylines or any of the tendencies that you were used to from years pass. Well,

let's think about this, Jason. I don't know how much say he had in the draft room, but Jason and his coaches, we at least could kind of have the idea of, yeah, they might have a little bit of saying, who's picking these players? McCarthy. I don't know how he's going to be after those years in Green Bay, but he comes from a place where he didn't have a lot of say in the draft room and he was kind of boxed out. And to me, that's fascinating and

I hope that he's comfortable about that. And like, but I guess Jet scouts at the scouts and will McClay just go pick the players? We're good to jest point, it's you're right. I think the coaches here had a lot of say too, Rod Marinelli, Tristan Hill written all over him, like, and we always used to joke on this show like wait till late March early April, and you can hear the narrative change when the coaches start watching tape. And it happened last year and Chris Richard

was part of it too. He was like, we don't need the safety, give us the defensive tackle. So that is fascinating Moore. It felt like that was absolutely the coaches have sway here and you're right, and Mike McCarthy's not used to that, and I wonder what that dynamic is going to be like with an entirely new coaching staff. Yeah,

and that's another factor. It's not even just a fact of having that say, but also just the unfamiliar side of having a completely new staff around you and having that kind of camarader reacher to be able to agree on a pick come April. We'll get into that a little bit more coming up in our third segment later in the hour, but we're gonna take a quick break when we I'm back Twitter on the twenty returns from twenty twenty. You guys have been sending us questions throughout

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Mortgage Studios. The Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, presented by Miller Lte, Dave Hellman, Katie, Jeff Cavanaugh, Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us, You're on the various social media platforms. Time for our first edition of twenty twenties Twitter on the twenty. It's kind of fitting with the new year, the new decade, new look for a show, but same

same segment. Some things will remain the same, always as they should because it's a great show and it has been a staple of a show, kind of growing as the expert host that how dare you? It fills a segment? Is that not honest? I like me? It does not fill a segment. It allows us to engage with our devoted, devoted and devout listeners. Inclusivity, shut up of the listener in the viewer. I'm gonna let our expert host Kyle handle this this year. Okay, you're killing it so far,

so just keep it rolling on top of it, I guess. Okay. So the first one I kind of want to go with is we talked a little bit about safeties and who's going to be Avai come pick seventeen for the Cowboys, and we had I'm having trouble finding the actual tweet, but somebody this morning, very early was ready for the draft show and they asked, would you rather have one of the safeties in the first round at seventeen or

trade that pick for Jamal Adams. Now, I feel like this is a common question that has been thrown out there recently, really as the Cowboys fell to seventeen. Is that realistic in your eyes? Is it realistic? Probably? Probably if you could get a Mark Juft, No, I wouldn't do it. And I'm a gigantic Ellis hue Homer. I love Jamal Adams. I think the world of him, but

it's just it's cap resources at this point. Because this is a team that's going to have to pay a bunch of big contracts out Dak Prescott and Mary Cooper. They're going to have to sign some other free agents, and Jamal Adams is eligible to renegotiate now. He could do that right now if he wanted to. He finished his third season last week or two weeks ago. And I just don't like the idea of immediately having to

pay a guy. Like the beauty of a first round pick is that you get four, if not five years of very cheap production, hopefully at a Pro Bowl level. You're not getting that with Jamal Adams. They're already they already didn't get that with a Mariy Cooper. I don't like the idea of having to do that twice. I could not have entered that better myself. I mean, Dave said Zach Potting. Yeah, no, Dave said that exactly. Now.

Jeff is the wild card. These two are cowards. I'd like to announce right now that I also am a coward. Yeah they're good. You're gonna look up like you look up. It's like how much cap space to the covers? I was like, well, they could roll over this much and they got eighty million dollars and oh am, I goodness, they have so much money and it's like, wait, you

haven't accounted for and just go down the list. Do you like Robert Quinn, you like Dak you like Marie Cooper and all these different guys and the like, even the guys that they've recently given the big deals to. They're big numbers haven't even hit yet. They're about to, right, and it's like, I get the temptation, but you would have to basically sign them on a credit card. You'd have to you would have to start sneaky. The sneaky storyline here is the pressure is on this front office

to draft really well. And I've seen you talk about this on Twitter, Jeff. But they've been good more often than bad since Will McClay took over in twenty fourteen, but their hit rate hasn't been perfect, and it's going to catch up with them with all these contracts that they have to pay out. Sure, because you need to

get cheap production. If you're going to be paying top of the line salaries to half of your starting roster and giving away first round pick to a guy that's going to need a new contract very soon is just not a great way to accomplish that goal. In my opinion, this was the most courageous act of cowardice I've ever seen because with the Jamal Adams being tantalizing over there, we all did the right thing right there. But if I can I mean, I don't even and I love

Jamal Adams. I just if I can get and we'll just use Grant Delpit because we're already talking about him. If I can get Grant Delpit for five years at a fraction of the cost, why wouldn't I do that? Do you think? Because he will be a better play. He could be, and I even remotely close to Jamal Adams though, I mean, it's tough to tell. It's draft. It's kind of a gamble. Regardless, I think Jamal, I mean, Jamal Adams was a better player coming out of school.

Delpots tape is good, it is, and that's that's the crazy thing is Jamal Adams went top five. Derwin James is I mean, I know he's spent a lot of this year hurt, but Derwin James is comparable and he fell to seventeen. I think Grant Delpit could be a comparable player. And that's why I'm I'm comfortable not taking that risk. It's all. The only question with him is tackling the range. Is there the instincts are there. He can blitz off the edge, he can cover anywhere you

ask him to cover. Tackling is the only issue, and he was hurt this year. I trust the fact. I'm not saying Delpot's gonna be Adams, but I'm saying I have no problem if that's where things fall, and he's my best player at seventeen, I will take him because he The tape is good for him on a two year scale. You have to go back and you have to watch him twenty eighteen tape on him, but it is good. The Cowboys have n't picked this high since they drafted Zeke and then Zach Martin in twenty fourteen.

Like they've been picking in the twenties for a lot of the time, and it's it hasn't worked out that well for him. Like when they were back at the end of the first round they picked Tacco when they didn't have a first round pick, they picked Tristan Hill. I like the idea of giving them not a great first round pick, but as good as they've had in a while, have first round, they'll have a first round graded guy. Yeah, exactly. That's not true when you're picking

in the twenties most well not most time. It sometimes like if you're picking at twenty seven or whatever, you Taco, wasn't a first round graded right? Exactly? Like there will be mature and hit that little button. I thought it was a hold down the radio professional in the room. Well, the radio professional are cough button. You have to hold it to cough and then you just let it go. This one's a tapper, so you have to tap it.

Shout out to Charles Tapper. So anyway, what I was saying for a long time while no one could hear, is if you're picking at seventeen, you can almost guarantee the Cowboys are going to have a first round graded player to pick. Yeah, unless they pick for need instead of the best player. You're worried about that, aren't you. I I'm terrified about that. There's a reason that we gave you the Layton Vanderish picked way before it happened.

There's a reason we gave you the Tristan Hill pick way before it happened because we knew who they were taking. Because if you follow the bread trail correctly, you can find out who they're taking. But that's always been true, and that was the same. I mean, Zack Martin was on a short list the year they picked him. Byron Jones was on a shortlist the year they picked him. Like, they're always going to identify guys that they love who

fit a need. But Byron, we were crossing off names as we went, and I believe it was Philadelphia picked Aglar and we started high fiving where Cowboys can get Byron like those to me, when if everybody's high fiving about it, that's different than well, that's who they're taking. I just feel like there's always going to be a shortlist of guys they love that fit their needs, because I mean that's the biggest myth in the draft right,

Like everybody's drafting for need. Otherwise you would I mean, you know, if the best running back in the draft, if DeAndre Swift fell to them them, let's go, they would draft him. But they won't do that. We know they won't. Let no stop it. Okay, I have nineteen first round graded players right now, and that it's still working through the million wide receivers in this draft. So nineteen wide receivers, you've gotten there. Three I think you

get it right. I just I really like their odds of finding a player they love who is also deserving of that pick at seventeen. I agree because I think this year we'll end up talking about Alabama corner, LSU corner, Florida corner, and we'll be going then grant help at Nixavier McKinney, the Alabama safety, and like r we're gonna have there's probably gonna be a secondary player from LSU or Alabama with a first round right in the face. Everything else off edge rushers. Don't concern you. Let me

do this because yeah, we've answered. We've answered one question. Tweeted at us and said, with the possibilities, of course of moving to three four edge rushers, anybody kind of stand out to you early on that could potentially fill those needs for the Cowboys. I love Terrell Us from Alabama, but he is another Alabama guy who's gonna need medical recheck action. Gosh, but he is. You get beat up in Alabama, You get beat up in Alabama. They play

it hard at Alabama. But man, he is And if you're moving to a three four, he probably makes more sense than a three four because he's undersized, isn't pulling up my notes to get his weight right? There right now at two fifty eight. Right now, we'll see what it turns out. Now he had been hurt, but he's hurt his knee. He tore his ACL in twenty eighteen. But when you go watch the tape this year, you're sitting there watching just a guy with long arms and

the juice around the end. I mean, Terrell Lewis is the guy that would make me go, Okay, well, don't worry about Robert Quinn now, just let him be a free agent. I mean he is a freak and he's very fun. If you go watch this tape, he's very fun. The speed rusher dynamic to go to pair with DeMarcus Lawrence, I love that seventeen Maybe early because there are health questions, Yeah, but man Terrell Lewis is very very interesting. Do you sorry? Go ahead? What if you failed to fifty one? Though?

Is there is there any chance of him fallowing the ficial with pass rushers? I just don't think he falls that far. Okay, I mean again early because he's like mid thirties right now. Maybe. I mean I have a first on my board and I'm different, so I have a first round grade on him. He is my third best pass rusher in this draft. Wow, um, it's Chase Young.

It's aj Epinessa from Iowa. Yeah, who's more of a you know, he's a heavier guy's he's a really good run player, less of a speed rusher off the edge. Terrell Lewis is kind of that week side defensive end just get around the edge, the birsty guy, and that was fine and long. It's just there's a lot to work with there. And I think he makes a lot

of sense whether they're in a four three or well. See, I mean Jeff already said he has a suspicion they go three four and you and I think that maybe even if they did that, it wouldn't be right now, which yeh, I don't if they were too draft and edge rusher, and that would be curious. I mean, okay, that is there anybody else that fits that bill? Because I aj Epinessa Iowa and then the other one is yet to gross Smatos from Penn State. Neither one of

those guys really strike me as rush linebackers. No, I don't say that with Matos, but I think Matos is closer to that than Epinessa, just because he's a little bit lighter, you know, But I mean when you start to look at like epinessa is a pure four three guy, he's going to be a fourth run strong defensive and he's a better run defender than he is a pass rusher to be honest, m but he's an overall really

good player. I mean, there, you go to second round, there's some names there, and do those guys start to shoot up the board just because of the lack of la rushing. But I swear to God, I'm not doing this because I went to LSU. Have you watched Calevan Chason yet? Yes? I have, because that's a I mean, that's a three four guy all the way, and he is. He makes a lot of sense. But I like Terrell Lewis way more than I like him. Yeah, I have Chase, I've got me. I've got a second round grade on Jason.

I think Chason is purely like an athleticism pick. Like, yeah, I mean his production has been fine this year, but like, if you're drafting him, it's on the upside more than what he's done. I think that's a position they're gonna have to look at, though, because what happens if you don't bring Robert Quinn Back and DeMarcus Lawrence gets hurt. Yeah, or anything happens Dawrence and Joe Jackson and whatever. Tyrone Crawford might be able to offer you, depending on his

health and his contract status. Yeah, I mean, much like cornerback. That's a sneaky need depending on what you do in free agents, much like d tackle, not much like safety. Who's gonna play defense for this team? Well, the defensive tackle right now, you would have exclusive rights free agent Antoine Woods and Tristan Hill. That's your d tackles to work to do. They got a lot of work to do. But you get to spend money too. You don't just

have to draft any more. Questions, Kyle, Yeah, So Braun asked, and this is the question of the questions, especially for you. He said, what are the chances, if any, that the Cowboys let Amari Cooper walk and hope that lamb Rugs or Judy fall to seven. Well, that would not be my dream. My dream involves dropping forty burgers. Which the way, yeah, the way that you do that is you tag Amari Cooper and you draft a receiver in the first round.

But that would put Randall Cobb on the bench. So like now, I just I don't know if it'll make sense. He could be your punt returner slash spot duty fourth receiver, much like Tavon Austin. Yeah, but there's there's a better role in the NFL for Randall Cobb than that. You're right, he's he deserves to be a starter. So I old team would lack him back right now, there you go. So um, I guess it would require saying, you know what, we want to save our eighteen to twenty million dollars

a year, We're gonna move on from Mary Cooper. And that's dangerous business because for all of the questions and I do have questions that shopped up the last three or four weeks of the year, he's still saved your season a year before that, and he's still an eleven hundred yard guy that helped probably your other guy get

eleven hundred yards. I can't. I do think there are two guys in this draft that you would not be insane if you said, I think as a rookie they're gonna have a thousand yards Judy and who probably Yeah, I think those two have legitimate chance to be number one receivers really quickly. Why do you leave Rugs off

that list? I mean, he's college production when you have seven hundred yards this year, Yeah, I mean I love the speed, and I think that's why he goes in the first round because the rest of the traits aren't like for him, You're just going to focus on the dude's gonna run a four two. He's gonna run a four to two. He outruns angles. He's a freak show, and that gives him a chance to catch back shoulder

fades and slants with huge opportunities because people are bailing. Um. But those other guys, you're talking about everything you want from a receiver, strength after catch, balance, we're out running catch point, and with Rugs it's more well. Tyreek Hill scores really long touchdowns and he'll get to do it too. Can Rugs turn or not as well as Judy and Lambs?

Not as well as those guys. I don't think he's but because he's busy going much faster, he just catches the ball and looks around and goes, Okay, none of you can catch me. I'll go that way. And I think that's why I was seven hundred yards. Who was the third receiver on his own team is going to go in the first round because that speed is game changing. If you don't want to sign Amari Cooper long term,

that's fine. I understand your reservations. But I can't imagine this team being even as good as they were last year, which wasn't that good by the way, without him. That's the problem. I think. I go back to what Jerry said about when our buddy Bryan was asking him on

the radio. He asked him about what all goes into the guys you signed to, and he's part of his answer was I think about what's the worst case scenario if I don't And the worst case scenario without a Mari is not nearly as scary as the worst case scenario without Dak or anything. But it is scary if you went, well, Michael Gallup, it turns out can't get eleven hundred yards as the number one guy. Yeah, I'm not ready to put that pressure on him, right, So

the worst case is somewhat scary. So in Jerry's own words, Amari Cooper is probably gonna be here. Yeah. I think Amari and Dhaker here very few, if any questions asked. All Right, one more question, This is from Hyatt. Is this a trade up kind of draft or a trade back kind of draft? If you're Dallas at seventy, all right, who do you trade like? Who do you trade up for? Okuda would be a guy that you would trade up.

All State Corner might go top five, and I would say I would throw Derek Brown, the defensive tackle from Auburn, would be in the mix there, because I think that's a game changer. And there's another guy who could play four three or three four. You talk about like we are not knowing what's going to happen. If the Dallas Cowboys traded up for a defensive tackle, I don't care who it is. It could be, could be a Dominican sue. That would be nuts. And that's the thing I mean, Okay,

I like both of those names a lot. I'd love if both of them could play on this defense. But and okay, I mean the Cowboys trade up for Mo claiborne not that long ago. You don't have to trade up for a quarterback like that is always the common theme. But I still I just like I just said, like I just I'm looking at these names and I feel so confident that a great player will be there at seventeen.

It would have to be something wild to make me think they would do that, And I'm counting on I reserve the right to change my mind as I learn more about this draft. But you're locked in counting jeff in earlier because he's named a name. He said this is who they're gonna draft. I just want to see if he's right. Help it. Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with Delpa there. But is there an edge rusher that you love enough that you

would trade up from seventeen? I mean not counting Chase Young. Obviously, Chase Young's the guy I think I'm trading up. That's not happening. EPINESSA. I don't think I'm doing that. I think I'll see if he can fall to me. But you know, I think what you said about Okuda's right. I mean Okuda is probably we're talking about a gap potentially could be a top five. You kind of get marsha On Latimore type vibes. I mean, he does not get beaten coverage. The draw is a good man coverage corner.

Is the drop off so severe that you would trade up and give up something valuable instead of just taking Trevon Diggs or Christian Fulton at seventeen. I'm trying to collect as many picks as possible. I think that's the way to go. And I think in this draft you're you do have potential that some other quarterbacks join. Yeah, And I just think you're going to get position players to fall to where you're picking. The eleventh, twelve, thirteen

is gonna channel. I'm gonna channel my guy brought us and just be like, let the board come to me, Let the board, let the draft come to me. Now, you know, let's see where we're at in two much because January ninth thinks you're going to change. The Senior Bowl is gonna be huge for for a lot of those quarterbacks, some of them Jordan Love and Justin Herbert specifically. That is going to be so huge for them because I guarantee you maybe because he's not a first round pick,

he's skyrocket as much as I don't think. I mean, but it would, but it'll be big for him. I think going into it, most people are gonna look at him like, you can't throw? Would you trade up for Simmons the Clemson linebacker? If you're not up on names yet. But if you're listening to this, I bet you are.

Isaiah Simmons is awesome, awesome, and I don't think you even have to identify what he is no like, because if if you get Layton vander esh back at full strength, okay uh, and then you can play as AA Simmons as a safety, as a as a slot strong safety, nickel linebacker or whatever anywhere. He cover every He's He's one of these modern age football players where it's like he can basically play everything in the back seven except for boundary quir I have I don't know if I

have faith in that now. In the old regime, I did not have faith in them using that player the right way. Yeah, but it's it's a beautiful day from the last. That's from the last regime. That's a Jason Garrett thing. Oh he were doing. It's a new day. Yes it is. Yeah, I'm intrigued by that. I still I can't. On January ninth, I would be surprised if there was somebody they wanted to trade up for. No

trade up, so stay put, no trade Um. I would if anything, vote trade trade back to twenty five because if we lose our ones what if you lose your round graded player, don't trade away from a first round graded player. That's the fun of it. Yeah, maybe you've got twenty one first round graded players. You get to seventeen and you've still got like six of them left,

and you're like, hey, we can we can dance. Well, the Raiders picked twice in that area too, and they'll draft some guys who are like way ahead of when they should probably draft. They'll draft a bad player early, So I also do that. Look, there's a lot of teams in front of you too, that historically it makes some weird draft decisions. So like, I think you could just sit there and maybe some second third round players get taken in front of you. It's my memory bad.

They Okay, they didn't have a pick last year. They gave it away for Mary. They haven't traded away from their first round spot since twenty thirteen. They did it in back to back years, they traded back for Frederick and up for Mokay, they have not done it since. I don't believe. I don't think they'd do it again. I think they'll sit there and it'd be a weird

spot to trade out of. Yeah, because I think you're sitting right towards the end of your first round graded players, and you're not gonna want to You're not gonna want to move from that. It'd be a bigger risk to trade back rather than even the amount that you could trade up for that. It's a draft. Were some areas that you need and that's the fun of it. Guys, like go back a couple of years. You're like, oh,

we're back here at twenty seven. We're right at the edge of like the cutoff is right there, Like where's Tach McKinley. We need him. But you're right in the thick of it at seventeen. I mean, it would be more fun if they were twelve, don't get me wrong, But you're right in the thick of where all the good players are. And I know we gotta get to the third segment real quickly. I just want to say it was a lot like that Zach Martin draft where I know Johnny Manzel got a lot of the headlines,

but Ryan Shazier he falls to us. Maybe that's the guy. Maybe Zach Martin's the guy here. Maybe it's Javon Kinlaw, maybe it's Delpus, Maybe it's one of the corners. Super excited about pilities. Yeah, there's a lot of possibilities and we'll talk about a little bit more of that. We're gonna go into some of the position needs of guys who will or will not be here free agency wise, kind of like we talked about with Amari Cooper and the wide receivers. Just a moment ago, that was Twitter

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This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft shows. Back here on the Draft Show Dallas Cowboys dot Com, presented by Miller Lite here from the Star in Frisco. Glad you've joined us our first show of twenty twenty. Crazy to think that we are already in the middle of draft coverage. You're looking the wrong way. It's over. It's over in that direction. Came to corner. Yeah, there's like

nine of them in here. But we we've talked a lot about the Cowboys and exactly what positions they want to talk about and where they want to go in terms of the first round. But really as a draft as a whole, I want to get into to McCarthy and how things are going to change. We've talked about four three verses three four what could potentially change defensively, But is there any shift on the offensive side of the football that Mike McCarthy and this new staff could

potentially employee going into this draft. I don't know if I know enough about McCarthy for a lot, but he didn't even have the input Kevin Turner probably does. Yeah, so he didn't have the input. That is a good point. It's interesting to see that they're bringing in Joe Philbin as the offensive line coach, and he same type of zone type scheme, likes to get the offensive lineman moving,

pulling guards, things like that. He used kind of this offensive lineman's athleticism for a couple more years as they are aging kind of slowly. You know what happened with McCarthy's offense is it changed so much over the years, and it was so much of it let the quarterback handle it at the line of scrimmage type of thing, which caused some chaos in Green Bay. But you didn't see as much route combinations that you would want to see here of like crossers and traffic and things like

that over the middle. So and you saw it in his last few years in Green Bay, saw a team get away from running the football. They got behind a lot. I don't know how much is going to change. I think you're gonna see a guy wh used two running backs a lot. He's not going to force a tight end on the field, which we've seen here quite a bit. He won't do that. He's all about using three wide receivers. Two running backs, four wide receivers, five wide receivers, don't

see sets. That's oh. I mean you, you, as somebody who has followed the Packers, would be a good person to ask, like, should you buy more into the idea that you know Eddie Lacy was a dynamic, league leading type of running back eleven twelve hundred yards, scored twenty four touchdowns in two years. Or the last impression of the Mike McCarthy Packers, which is that they got away from the running game all the time, I would say neither. Go back to the year they won the Super Bowl.

Their running backs were Ryan Grant and Brandon Jackson, and they found a way they used the run as more of a get your four or five yards to make things manageable. Now, whether that's running the ball in first down or second down doesn't matter, but it's almost like they use the run to set up the pass at all times. It's never one of those things where it's like, Hey, we're really going to come and dominate you at the running game, and that's kind of what we've been asking for.

I know there's a lot of people who may not feel that way, especially how this year went. Yeah, but I don't think they're gonna be that type of team says, well, this is what we do, we run the ball. I don't think that's going to happen. Another thing, I'm a little bit and I hear what you're saying, Like the Packers seem like they've been four wide for years because they win with Aaron Rodgers. But at the same time, it hasn't necessarily worked. But like they've put resources into

tight end. I mean, they brought in Jimmy Graham, they brought in Martellis Bennett before him, they had Jeremichael Finley for the longest time. Yeah, they drafted Jay Sternberger last year. I don't think he was hurt. He hadn't had a chance to make a big impact. But it seems like a position that they've tried to address. Yeah, they tried, and you know what they used. You know, jer Michael Finley was used as you know, a kind of a

chess piece though, a matchup guy. You know, here you had Witten and you kind of know that he's not gonna be a matchup guy. Jarwin could be that matchup guy that you could use here and there, And I think it'll be interesting. I think the way that they use some of those formations will be way different than what we've seen. But it'll be interesting to see if

Kellen stays and how much input he has. You know, if Mike McCarthy does have say in the draft room, they're going to be looking for something offensively, I would imagine, Or does he have say in free agency and that's where Randall cop comes back into play and all those

types of things. He'll try to keep Randall Cop here if he's got to say, well, and a lot of people are looking at maybe a third or a fourth round pick, looking at a tight end, and you talk about the fact of wanting two running backs, three wide receivers on the field not necessarily forcing a tight end. Does that mean they stay put in terms of Blake Jarwin and Dalton Schultz see what they have. They're assuming that Witton retires. That's not, of course an official thing

by any means. But if he's done, do they stick with Jarwin and don't waste a pick on tight end? If McCarthy's at the helm, I don't think they would do that either, even whether McCarthy was here or not. I think you would try to stick it out with Jarwin, maybe try to fill a gap and free agency or late in the draft, because let's face it, there's some bigger, bigger holes to fills. Are set it done. Once the roster starts rolling over, there's gonna be some bigger issues

at play than tight end. This might be a lucky I get. I say lucky because by the virtue of who's coming out, like, it doesn't sound like there's a first round tight end like this is not the Noah t J Hockinson and Noah fan draft. Yeah, the Washington guy, the Washington guys, my top right tight end guy. I will say since Cole Commit commit coming out, he's coming out and that just now happened in the last couple of days, so I haven't watched him yet. And Hunter

Bryant from Washington. Hunter Bryant from Washington, I like, and I think your your comp there is maybe a poor man's Evan Ingram type guy because he's a matchup guy. He's not an inline blocker type. Well that's what I want he is. I don't match up. I'm over. I'm over the traditional use of the tight end. I want to tight end who can line up in the slot. And I don't think the coach is going to demand that you put two tight ends out there and run

the ball. Yeah, Bryson Hopkins is from Purdue, who's my third round tight end? I like him. I think he can block a little bit. He's not the most fluid guy of all time. And then Dan's gonna try to sell you on Troutman, the small school guy from Dayton after the Shaheen situation. I'm staying away. Dane falls in love with a tight end from a school nobody's heard of every year. It's fine. I like, wait what I'm

hearing about that? Though, because like, tight end is not a position I would want to use a first round pick on Blake Jarwin is fine for me, And I mean, I'm basically assuming Jason Winden isn't coming back. I guess I shouldn't do that. Would you spend a third round pick on them? Though? You said no first round, which is fine? Absolutely? Kick? Do we know where they pick in the third yet it's two into fifth round. Let's talk about fifth round? Portland State? What name you guys

just went after Dane? I was gonna say, and you're just trying to impress people, Charlie to my Portland State guy. I am watching round Portland State already watching Portland State players. It's the first show of the year. I love it. Where'd you find that tape? Oh? Actually yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but I have access to that Okay State. I know we spent five minutes talking about the posibility of drafting a tackle, but like other than tight end or maybe

a slot receiver depending on Ranald Copp's future. Like, it's hard to imagine a first round pick being on offense otherwise wide receiver. That's it. And that's what's so intriguing because I think the value is going to be insane. The value is going to be nuts at receiver, right, Yeah, now you agree with that's almost a first round It's almost a reason not to take a first round wide receiver because I mean, Jeff, you've been working on the

wide receivers pretty heavily. I know it's still early, and yeah, I think there's a lot of good ones, a lot, but to me, there is Ceedee Lamb and Jerry Judy and then I would put a little, a little break there before you get to Henry Rugs and maybe put Te Higgins right there with Rugs, and then I would have another gap and you go down to what do you get here? Ayuk and Rager and Channault. What do you think about Ayouk from Randon? Ayouks from Arizona state him,

But I'm not done with him. I gotta I like him a lot. But it seems like it's very big play based, which is very much based on take something short and take it to the house. I think the odds that are very very talented wide receiver is there. It's good at seventeen, I think, and it's also good at fifty one. I just I mean, this is gonna be a that if you're talking about storylines for the draft, it might just be how many insane, insanely good wide receivers.

Gallop year is a great example of how wide receivers, good wide receivers can fall to you. Sure, what about day three though? You're talking for a second or third round, and I mean, if you're retaining Cooper, you have Gallop, you bring back Cobb, then that's likely where a receiver pick. Actually, you're probably gonna go day three. Are there anybody that you're Is there anybody that you're looking at in day three? Keeping on kJ Hill from Ohio State and he will

be a Senior Bowl guy. Gandy Golden and he's from Liberty, Antonio. Gandy Golden, but he's more of the bigger, can't separate type of guy, you know. You know, it also is going to depend what they want. You know, do they want a size guy on the outside. Do they want a separation guy? Like I think, if there's anything and if you know, I think we've we've kind of seen this over the years, is you can really help your quarterback out more than anything by just getting a separator.

And I'm looking for more of those guys than I am, the big size guys, especially when I'm kind of considering in my own head gallop a size guy on the outside. Okay, but follow me here, because I'm looking at the contract

chart for the Dallas Cowboys. They have one two, three, four, five six seven impending free agents on their defensive line, and to Jeffrey's point, I hate to give it to them, but they have one two, three, four, five, six seven eight pending free agents in their secondary and I just have a hard time believing we can sneak one offensive pick and the sneak one guys, it can't be too early though, because the problem is, if we're being realistic,

pick seventeen needs to be defense. It just does. And you've done if you find three starters in a draft, you've done an incredible job. That's fantastic. So the idea that you could be like, well, I'll use the first pick on offense and then find some defensive starters, well you might find one, and they've tried situations where they, you know, try to address it in one fell swoop.

Obviously the twenty seventeen draft, which you know, Cheeto, Jordan, and Xavier Woods are all playing, but you wouldn't say that those are amazing picks right now, just in terms of what you're getting from them. And they're very close to having to do that again, right especially if Byron's Byron Jones and Anthony Brown, two of your three preferred starters on day one, might not be back. They gotta hit. They gotta hit on two of their first three for sure.

They really and they really could use it because they're gonna need bodies and free pizza. Free agent two. Jeff Ethan Woods is your only safety. Oh man, you got one safety. I believe I was gonna I believe even Yeah, even Darian Thompson, who was kind of your spot third safety is a free agent. Von's free agent. Yeah, I think you trust it though. I mean safety is going to be deeper than usually. We're gonna more top one hundred safeties than we've had. Pull for Donovan Wilson. Okay, yeah,

that's fine. To steal a line from the great Brad Sham. Hope is not a strategy. I think. I can't sit here. It's super desperate. Can't sit here and hope that my sixth round safety from last year blossoms. That'd be great if he does. Preseason days he really did. He I had a fantastic preseason and couldn't get on the field

after that. What happens with some of these guys who got drafted because they had fans on the coaching staff and those fans are no longer on those coaching That's another thing too, is you know, we we have preconceived notions and coaches are going to show up here in another week or two and be like, oh, that guy we don't want that guy Wilson can't play, or they're gonna say, oh, this guy that they let's sit on the bench. Yeah, that guy needs to touch the ball

eighty times a game. So it's twenty sixty free agents and contracts that are up. Yeah, and then you turn around and it could potentially be more spots. Now, they're not gonna get rid of starters or anybody. It's not gonna be big names. I would assume not, but I mean no, this is gonna be a massive transition. I mean, you turn a third of the roster over every year anyway.

But I think I counted it up, and there's eleven guys that you could quantify as a starter who don't have contract Brown jumps into play too, who wasn't starting at the end of the year. And then you think about guys like Sean Lee and Joe Thomas who aren't starters in name, but you needed them down the stretch. It's a lot of stuff to consider. And that's listen. I'm with Jeff, like I want I want three badass receivers who can play inside and outside, and I want

to score fifty six points a game. But looking at this list, it's just hard for me to think that they're not going to zero in on defenders with these first these big money picks. I also don't want to give up fifty seven points per game in your scenario there exactly, and that's I mean, man, Jet, I'm gonna hate it if Jeff is right, but I can see the logic. We have bodies at cornerback, we have bodies

at the safety. And do you know that in the draft, the draft, corner and safety is gonna be It's gonna be rich for top one hundred players. You're gonna be flying. Yeah, I don't know if you have to reach at seventeen. You're gonna be fine at those positions at least in terms of adding what could be potentially starters. But what they do with their schemes gonna make a big difference, and that's yet to be seen yet. I'm gonna need y'all to find a Day three defensive back that we

can celebrate over. And we've done it twice. We do it every Anthony Brown, Xavier Woods. We're gonna need another one because somebody's on their way out. We don't know who it is, all right, cool, find a safety that's half or what is that? Les? What's half of one tenth of the second. I'm already in love with the tiny guy. It's interesting to see if christ Rah Shard, we can find a safety who's a little bit too slow and a little bit too small, because it doesn't

matter because they're good at football. That's what we did with Woods. It'll work out, and that's excited about it. On day three's and I know we're running out of time, but Jordan Lewis was the apple of this staff's eye, and then Chris Rahard showed up and he fell out of favor, and now we don't know if Christopher Shard

will be back. Like, We're gonna have a clearer idea of what this team is looking for over the next two weeks as they finalize this coaching speak robertson Cornerback Louisiana Tech right like that, Well, we're gonna dig deeper into that going into next week as well. Next week we'll preview the Reese's Senior Bowlmobile Alabama. That'll be our second show here of twenty twenty. But as for today, do you want to thank everybody for joining us on

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