Draft Show: Senior Bowl Preview & Dane's Top 50

As we like to say here the Draft Show where we like to investigate and then educate all things NFL Draft. Uh, guys, we had some All Star games coming. We gotta we gotta game. We're gonna preview, uh coming up here Senior Bowl game that we're all going to. Dane. You were at the East West game. We'll get into that a little bit. I want to also talk about though, how we go about here. We like to have conversations with you the fan. We do it a couple of different ways.

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to be and then also get questions to us. We're also going to take calls today as we always do on the Draft Show eight eight eight eight, five five two two nine seven. It should be on the right side of your screen there as we speak. Want to talk about Dane some of the things that you saw this week at the East West Game. The roster better not as good as what we've seen in the Senior Bowl.

Phil Savage and those guys who've done a nice job with the rosters have come out and we've seen the names, but talk a little bit about guys that we need to pay attention to from the evaluations you had at practice the other day the last few days. Yeah, and for people that don't know East West Shrine Game as in Tampa every year, it's kind of you know, Senior Bowl is the A All Star Game, Shrine Games, the B All Star Game, so a lot of talent there.

Last year's a couple of guys drafted top one hundred playing of draftable players. The game is the tomorrow Saturday, but I was there all week for practices. That's really where the heavy lifting is done. That's where you know, hundreds of scouts were there looking at these guys. All thirty two teams represented. And for me, the top guy going in was Javon Hargrave, defensive tackle out of South

Carolina State, and he left right as I left. During the week, he was my top prospect, A really good player, three hundred fifteen pounds, moves really well, strong at the point of attack. So I think Javon Hargrave's a name that people need to know. Graham Glasgow, the center from Michigan. He just got a Senior Bowl invitation as well, so he was outstanding at the Shrine game during practice and we'll get a chance to see him as a Senior Bowl center. A little taller at six six, but really

athletic moves well. It's amazing what Jim Harbaugh did, not only for that Michigan program, for those senior prossts. Hard for an Ohio State guy to say that too, by the way, unbiased with his grandmother. Right. Yeah, story, ESPN did a great story. Check it out. Yeah, a great story. And a couple more small school guys. Victor Ochi from Stony Brook. Stony Brooks never had a player drafted. This could could be the first little undersized pass rusher. Devondre

Campbell linebacker Minnesota. A couple out of these guys. Not, these guys aren't as good as the players we'll see next week at the Senior Bowl. But these guys do have a chance to get drafted. Let me ask you this about the Michigan kid. Though. What you saw is Kelly your top I saw he was in and we're going to get into Dane's top fifth. Uh. That just came out on CBS. I think that's always a nice read. I retweeted the link out there that to to check

that out. But you know, is Kelly your top center obviously? Is He's the only only center in the top fifty there? Yeah, in a position though, though, Dave that everybody seems to try and want but has trouble finding. Though not it's a position that everybody wants, but they don't like to spend resources on it. My first experience with the Cowboys, I mean what a month after I started when they drafted Travis Frederick and got murdered for it. Uh for

taking him. I mean people, you know you could have gotten him in the third round. Centers don't go in the first round. Yeah. Now he's a two time Pro Bowl and this is a good year for centers. We might not have that first round guy this year. But you talked about Kelly from Alabama. Uh, the guys, we'll see it the Senior Bowl. H Martin Martin, you know Nick, Nick Martin. So a plenty of good centers in this Allen draft, Jack allenia Iowa, Iowa kid. Plenty of good

centers that will start in the league. But we just don't have that first round guy. So if you need a starting center in this draft, you can get one second, third, fourth round. Yeah. Let me ask you this, And how did the sharp kid from U mass look? And this was this was a guy that got in I'm not gonna say late because I'm way ahead of the game, but watch some tape him the other day. Measured in I thought he was a two hundred pound kid, but

it measured in at one eighty eight. Hands, really good hands, and he's got some size to him sixty three six two and a half kind of a player. Though, what kind of week did did he have there? At at at the game? Yeah, he left MSS as the best wide receiver statistically in their program's history. Um, and he you know, going in he was probably the top receiver for me at the game, but he didn't really stand out that much. I thought Robbie Anderson, the Temple wide receiver,

actually stood out a little more. And that's an interesting guy. Yeah. Um, but for sharp thing that really concerned me his hands they were under eight inch inches and that's uh for wide receivers. You wanted nine nine and a half to sharpest who we're talking about. Yeah, and that's told me his hands were tiny. Yeah and that but you but you watched the tape of him playing, he's he's snatching

the football. He is he is and he's a good player. Uh. But from this game, I felt better about Chris Brown, the Notre Dame wide receiver. Anderson from Temple. Um could juice the Stanford wide receiver as well. So you know, I think he's still probably a Day three type of player. I don't think he's a top one hundred prospect, but I still think he's you know, in that day three discussion, Yeah, that's a to me. I think that everybody's looking for

wide receivers. I mean that's a position though. But all these guys that you talked about fourth, fifth, sixth round type receivers. Yeah, I'm not sure any of these guys will break into that top one hundred, but probably early day three of four, fifth, sixth round. So you don't see Sharp as that type of guy. I don't see him as a top one hundre, right, I mean, I think he's gonna be somewhere in the in the middle late rounds. Yeah, i'd be. I'd be interested because I

like the guy watching him on tape. Yeah, you know, and and and and there was you know, there's games where they played some good competition. You can watch the Notre Dame game. He's making plays against Notre Dame. So I was, I was, I'm interested about that. So those are the guys though, anybody else stand out for you at this uh, at the at the practices that you feel like that everybody needs to take maybe take a

little bit closer look at when they watched the game. Well, it's interesting this year with the quarterbacks the quarterback class. The Senior Bowl usually take six quarterbacks the top senior quarterbacks. This year they took the top eight, plus Connor Cook's not one of them, so that's you know, that's nine quarterbacks right there. So the Shrine Games getting the scraps,

but that tells you how deep this class is. When the Shrine Game had Nate Sudfeld from Indiana, a lot of people like him, Brandon Dowdy from Western Western talking as well, so you know there was some strong quarterback played down there. You know, both these guys are more are their Day three guys. You know, they're not players we're going to see in the in the third round. But I thought they handled them themselves. Well. Keenan Reynolds

from Navy, I just took quarterback. You know, he's he made the transition to running back and I just I'm not sure he looked natural at the position, but he just doesn't have the body power to live between the tackles and one hundred and ninety pounds. You know, you watched him get hit and he wasn't making anything happen after contact. But what I was really impressed with his ability to catch the ball. You know, he didn't catch. He had one catching college, and so no one knew

what to expect with his hands. But he caught everything this week in practice. So I think, you know, Keenan Rounds is going to get drafted somewhere, probably late in the late rounds day three, and the team's going to figure out how to use him. Whether it's in the slot, whether it's maybe a you know, a scat back, third down type of role. Someone will figure out how to

use Keenan Reynolds and utilize out athletics. Did he looked comfortable doing it because I was watching Braxton Miller, and Braxton Miller looks comfortable to me if you're gonna have a projection, And Braxton Miller, I think did a very smart thing initially, just saying, you know what, if you don't want me to play quarterback anymore, I'll go play wide receiver and try and and and start his journey along.

Braxton Miller looks very comfortable playing wide receiver. To me, U unbelievable athlete, Braxon Miller, I mean game changing speed. I mean, he's he's just a different type of dude. I mean the guys just aren't you know, walking through the door like built like that as he's six one, two hundred fifteen pounds, right, I mean that's an Kuon Bolden size. And then but he's faster than Yeah Ank bolding ran a four seven. Braxon's gonna run in the four three eight to four four four range and in

the forty yard dash. And plus he has the change of direction skills that you want. He can make you miss. Um. My biggest concern with Braxon Miller is just can he stay healthy? The durability, toughness over the middle. But no, you're right. I mean for a guy that it was a quarterback, he looks so natural at receiver. I'm really eager he's one of the players this next week at the Senior bowld. Yeah, and get into that if I can for a little bit here too, is we is

we transition and into the Senior Bowl. I just want to marvel for a second that it's January twenty second second and we just spent a decent amount of time talking about guys from football powerhouses like South Carolina State, Temple, UMass, Navy. There was another one in there too, uh whatever, But yeah, you're not finding that anywhere else. No stuff. Yeah, that's that's Dane Brugler stuff. That's that's the investigate and and

then and then educated potatas it's unbelievable. Well that's good though, you know, let's go through these rosters a little bit. Some guys that I've highlighted it and and I'm gonna start with I'll go with the Dallas flair here because Jason Garrett and the staff will be coaching the North side.

We got into Braxton Miller a little bit about Well, first, let me do this, Dane, when you first saw the roster, and Dave when you saw the roster as well, your initial impressions, you gotta give Phil Savage and his crew a lot of credit for and give the players credit too for wanting to step up up and be and be a part of this football game. Though, talk about indicial oppressions of the roster. And you know, I knew going in Carson Wentz was gonna be on the Cowboys.

Even if Carson Wentz, you know, was a south guy from Florida, he was gonna be on the North roster. That exactly. They were gonna get the Jaguars. They have their quarterback, right, Cowboys, they have a better possibility drafting quarterback, so that was going to happen. So I wasn't a surprise to see Carson Wentz on the North roster. But good to see all these defensive tackles. There are five week, all those defensive tackles right on the south roster. There's

one defense a defensive tackle. I mean, they're they're putting some of these defensive tackles on this North roster. Uh. Knowing that the Cowboys second third round could be looking at some of these guys. Austin Johnson from Penn State, we talked about him last week. Really eager to see how he does, a fourth year junior who could be in the mix that early second round pick um. And then also going back to the quarterbacks, Uh, Jeff Driscoll

Louisiana Tech. If the Cowboys do not get that quarterback at for overall or in the second round, Driscoll's the guy that I'd probably be targeting and somewhere in the mid round mix. A guy that shows a little bit of potential, a guy that you can develop. So eager to see what we what we can see from Jeff Driscoll this week. A lot of people just wrote him off after Florida. It was a disaster there, it was, but he reinvented himself as a prospect that Louisiana Tech

this year. All the tools are there. He's a tremendous leader at a scout. Tell me he's the best leader he Driscoll is that this scout has seen in the last ten years scouting around the country. So, uh, you know, Garrett's gonna love that, and so really eager to see how these quarterbacks fair, especially wentz In Driscoll. Well, what about Dave you last night on the North Side, Danes

bringing it up, I'll talk about it. You talked about him first, well, Jacoby Brissett, Yeah, yeah, excuse me, Brissette, Okay, I get I'll drag it out for working on it. Jacoby Brissett like that guy. Yeah, talk about what you saw last night and I'll get Dane stop. But I'm interested in what you thought last I had to watching the young man from North Carolina State. Uh, well, we were, and I'm not hijacking. We were talking about Cardel Jones

before we came on the show. Who's not at the Senior Bowl, but like I think a very similar skill set, Like he's a big guy got a not as crazy of an arm as card L Jones, but he's got a really big arm again, And like, you know, I feel like this is something unless you're looking at Andrew Luck, Like these college quarterbacks are not great at going through progressions and reading defenses. So not amazing at that first read throw. But he's got like a poison an awareness

about him that I really like. Like when the play falls apart, he doesn't panic. He he's got enough mobility to step around speed. Yeah, so he's a guy and it's so early, Like I'm if he plays well at the Senior Bowl, his stock is undoubtedly going to rise. But I mean he seems like a guy that people are kind of writing off. What I mean, we were thinking fourth fifth round grade probably like that type of guy.

A quarterback. It's such a valuable position that I'm not going to be surprised at all if he bumps that up with you know, some good performances over the next couple months. But he's he's I feel like, you know, there's the obvious guys. We've already beaten goff, Wins and Lynch into the ground, and we will continue to do

so for good reason. But there's another six to ten guys that are worth talking about who even maybe maybe not at four, maybe not at thirty four, but once you get into that third, fourth, fifth round, you could find a guy who not an immediate starter. But that's not what I'm looking for if I'm the Cowboys anyway.

And I know, I mean that will spark an argument if you say it to the wrong person, because some people think you need to have a guy that's ready to go immediately in case Romo breaks his collarbone in a week two again, but get a guy in the fourth round who can sit around and learn for a year, two years, three years doesn't sound terrible to me, Dan, It just did. Dave Is he's talking more that fourth, fifth round kind of guy. That's that's really what I'm interested. No,

that's what I yeah, And that's I think. I think. I think he painted a pretty fair picture of this kid. Dan talk about though in the skill set though that you see with this particular player. Well, yeah, and you know we talked about it with this quarterback class, how deep it is. I mean, we're gonna have over a dozen quarterbacks drafted this year. And while it you know,

at the top I don't. I still think we don't have that Winston or Mariota, but we have some good players that are gonna be taken mid to late rounds. And you know, going back to Jacoby Brissett, he's built really well and he has a big arm. I just I don't see him use that arm enough. I don't think he trusts downfield throws. I don't think he trusts what he sees um. You know, he's really tough in the pocket. Guys, I'll just fall right off of him and he create and extend plays with his legs and

just a sheer size. I just don't see him making enough impact plays with his arm. And so I think he has the arm to do it, just haven't seen it on tape. There were a half a dozen reps that we saw where he decided to rifle it to the curl route or the drag route rout and like he had a guy with a step, you know, down

the outside. He didn't want to do a lot to try to make a lot of tight window throws like way too many, Like way too many were like the cornerbacks, like hanging off the receiver and he throws it to him anyway. He or Hogan from Stanford have to have maybe a better week at the Senior Bowl. Which one that's good, No, it's good. I think both in the same tier in terms of, you know, quarterbacks in this class. To me, I think Hogan that delivery the streaky accuracy.

To me, Hogan's a future backup. And I think Brissette has a little bit more upside where I think you can get a little bit more out of him that we haven't seen to this point. I think both. I don't see either of them as a future NFL starter, to be honest, but I think both can be backups in this league. But I do think Brissette offers a little bit more upside coaches get a little bit more out of him. I think you both have done a nice job of painting a picture of the player I

agree with. But I like the arm talent though, and I and You're right, I don't think we needed to see more of those down the field type of throws. I'm just naturally more intrigued by the guy who's getting less of the spotlight, you know, Like I mean, I, whether I want to talk about him or not, Carson Wentz is gonna be in the spotlight, you know, and he's the guy. So I'm gonna go over here and look at the guy that maybe he's not getting as

much attention. That's more interesting. Let's focus in on Carson Wentz this week. Then, Well, before we do that, I'm sorry, I just we're talking about you know, the Cowboys got wins on their roster. They got these defensive tackles like Phil Savage, probably trying to do the coaching staff a couple of favors. It's fair to say that probably happened with the Jaguars too, right, I mean, so I would be curious to know, and I don't know what their

needs are. Maybe you do, I mean, you know, the draft. Maybe a guy that you would have liked to see the Cowboys working with that is with Jacksonville instead for that very reason, because there were some names that I was hoping to see on the Dallas roster that wound up on the other side. Well, I think the best player in Mobile is Noah Spense Eastern Kentucky. He's a PA kid, went to Ohio State, then transferred Eastern Kentucky. So you could make easy, easy argument he should be

on the North roster. But he is on the South roster. I think he's the most talented player that we will see in Mobile. Has his baggage, a lot of baggage, but again, I think he's the most talented player there. So really eager to see how he fares. You know, the Alabama players, Reggie Ragland, Yes, you know, we knew those guys who are gonna be on the South roster. They always are. But um, you know, I think you know, going back to uh, the best player I think is

gonna be the Eastern Kentucky Pass roster. So yeah, keep an eye two on the South roster too. With the rankings Kid Sheldon Rankings from Louisville, I think when he can DJ, they talk about him as the three technique. This kid is right behind him in my opinion, if you know you're talking potentially could be Louisville, could potentially be a first round pick. I think this rosters really really outstanding. I think Phil and the and the players give them a lot of credit that this is gonna

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That's one eight hundred l e y nine nine nine nine. I'm domingarzia us now for a free consultation. Late nine. This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Showboys back here with the Draft Show from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. Brian broad Is, Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Kent Garrison, executive producer. We're gonna take a call. We're gonna go to the great state of Tennessee. Phil, We're all doing great today.

What is your question for the Draft show? Please? I think he just hung up when you put him on the air. Okay, he got scared, Phil got little nervous. Plenty of players, so Tennessee is gonna have a really good team. We're just trying to fill some airtime. Ah, and Phil's not there. We go. Okay, some news just came down, Dane. You've been on this following you on Twitter.

You said that we were going to get the list of the juniors that have declared for the NFL Draft, and that list has just come out, So go ahead with that information. NFL officially released the underclassman list one hundred and seven total players, which is a new record. Uh ninety six are true juniors. Guys that are leaving school early with eligibility than an additional eleven have already graduated, but technically they had eligibility left, so uh, they were

technically underclassmen. So one hundred and seven total, which is a new record. The previous record was one hundred and two, which was done two years ago. So only the second time ever we've had triple digits for these underclassmen. And you know, no, no surprises, guys, we already knew. Um, you know, just you know, looking at the list, Uh, you know, these are all guys that we knew were coming out, you know, guys like Joey Bosa, uh, Larmie Tunsol,

all the top guys. So no big surprises. A few small school players we didn't know, Buttim Cookman has a guard on here, guys like that. But for the most part, guys we already knew. And you know, NFL has been trying to keep this number low, you know, because over the last two years, over a third of these players I've come out early have gone undrafted. And so you know, I went back and you know, did all the research and thirty four point four percent and that's a big number.

And you know, these players there, it's not about going in the first round anymore. It's about get that second contract. And so if you're a second, third, fourth rounder, a lot of these kids are okay with that. They just want to go and try to get second contracts sooner. But a lot of these guys wanted me to make it the training camp, and so it's an unfortunate thing. But you don't want to see how it shakes out. Yeah, the NFL doing the best they can to help the

college programs to keep those kids in. A lot of kids are ready, but like you said, the number is pretty staggering of the numbers that don't don't make it or don't get drafted. So that's unfortunate that side of it. Okay, let's go to a staple that are a good friend ed K Hill invented three years ago. It is Twitter on the Twitter on the Twitter. With that being said, I turned the show over to David Hellman and he

gets all your Twitter questions answered. Okay, we'll start out with a good question something I feel like people probably roll their eyes about given the Cowboys history at the position recently, But Diane wants to know where do you view tight end as a first of all, I guess the class, but also as a draftable position for the Cowboys. I mean, it's easy to write it off because Jason Witten continues to chug along, but James Hanna is a

free agent. Gavin Escobar injured, doesn't figure the factor early in twenty sixteen, if at all, because of his Achilles injury. So how do you feel about that? You got to tight end stain? I mean I know that obviously that Hunter Henry is the top rated one, but he's but he is a catcher, not a blocker. No, that's the and that's the thing. If you're looking for it, will never find another Jason Witten. I don't believe everyone needs a blocking Yeah, this team needs, you know. But Hunter

Henry Gerald Adams, though, is South Carolina an interesting guy? Long, tall at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, at the Senior Bowl. More of getting away type of blocker though, But I like his athletic ability down the field as well. Yeah, No, he didn't impress me. He can he can go down the steam and do something good size an athlete, He picks up steam as he goes right, that type of he is a long strider of a runner. Right exact.

It's a more impressed with his third and fourth steps as a route runner, and so I think, yeah, a guy will see in mobile as a big bone, natural frame. He's going to develop. You've seen him in line, we've seen him backfield, but overall, this tight end class hunter, Henry's the number one guy, clear kiss. But have you done the Hooper kid from Stanford yet? Yeah, and he's just look at him. You know, we've seen him in line. He seen him block a little bit. He's a good

route runner, he's a good catcher of the football. It just doesn't It's like a vanilla player though, right, very just steady, nothing spectacular. And then usually with these guys, I want that one distinguishing trait, you know, the one thing that I can hang my hat on. This guy does extremely well, right, Hooper just does everything pretty well, pretty well. Right, That's isn't a bad thing. But you know he is what he is. But you're right about Henry.

He blocking, he tries, he gives it everything. He has efforts there, he tries to get in the way and then you see him get pushed back. He can't make the call. But when they say throw the ball, get down, the field, make a catch, run a route across the middle, get up to seem like you said, he can do all that. His route acceleration, he has the best hands of any tight end this class. He had zero drops

this year. It's just a really good player. Absolutely. Okay, day we touched on him a minute ago, and he's a guy that's a senior Bowl, So I think it's relevant. Leo wants to know, what do you what do you see from Braxton Miller as a as a pro? I mean, what how does he fit here? Is he see that deep threat? What are you looking at if you actually wind up drafting this guy? And this is my question, I mean, where do you project him? I did include

him in my top fifty players. Yeah he should because he when you're that size and you can move like he does. Uh, and you're a good kid. I mean, look at Philip Dorset last year, taken in the first round because he could run real fast. I mean, Brixton Miller's bigger and can run almost as fast, and so I know there's gonna be a transition for him. You know, he's only played one season as a receiver and he wasn't even a receiver. He was an h back that that was his starting role this past year for the

Buck guys. But he did run some routes, they did use him in different ways and they really underutilized him. Wish we could have seen more Braxon Miller this year. I only had about twenty six catches. But I think he's going to have to be a gadget players first year while he gets acclimated the pro game, learns his routes, learns you know, how to beat NFL coverages. But by year two, I do think Braxon Miller can start in

this league. I don't disagree with you one bit. And I like the fact Derek Dooley is going to get to coach him here that with on that north side. And I'll tell you what, and I said the word comfortable. Braxton Miller looks comfortable. He doesn't look out of place trying to play wide receiver because you will see some routes where he take when he starts on the slant and he plants and he explodes inside. And I've seen him adjust for low balls and games ball on the ground.

I've seen him. I've seen him play well. Dave. We were watching last night, play breaks down, play breaks down, he's extending. I mean he's having the awareness to try and find space to get open. Former quarterback, he understands that exactly. So you're right comfortable there is You're talking about six one, two hundred fifteen pound guy that runs

four four two probably run better than that. I am looking forward to seeing him at I think I think everybody's gonna come away from the Senior Bowl going and I'm sure the scouts already know that he could play receiver. I think America and all the and and our folks overseas that Dan turn that follow the scouts or follow the draft, you guys will see him as well as well as Hey, how he plays. I think he's an outstanding football player. How did Ohio State not make it

into the playoff? We'll never know. Yeah, they're the most talented teams. Should have handed that ball to fifteen more time in that Michigan State game. I'm not wrong going there. This is this is something the Cowboys have done recently. We've talked We've talked a lot of Miles Jack and uh Jalen Smith. No, but Jeremy wants to hear about some mid round, third fourth round linebacker options. Obviously with Anthony Edgins and Damian Wilson that has been a round

the Cowboys have not been afraid of. I guess just your your middle tier guys, maybe even some guys at the Senior Bowl that you like that play the linebacker spot. You've got a couple of guys there, Dan, you want to talk about. Yeah, you know a guy that I know you guys have seen quite a bit, Deon Jones LSU A player who surprised he didn't start until his senior year. Yeah, and you know I wondered why. I wonder right, Yeah, I talked to him about it, and I you know, I asked him, did not bother you

he didn't start until your senior year? He said, no, I just waited my turn, and I was ready for my opportunity. And he was this year as a senior playing next to Kendall back with I mean, he was more than ready. And where I was really impressed with Deon Jones is his coverage. His ability to stick with tight ends, stick backside of the backfield, A very good reactive athleticism, and a smart player for a player that didn't see a lot of on field reps on defense,

A pretty smart player as well. So this is a kid that showed up at one hundred ninety five pounds. He's filled out his frame and really made the most of his moment. Less Miles called him a very bright player, So I think Dion Jones. He's wearing number zero at the Senior Bowl, so it's gonna be hard to miss him for his number and because he's a darn good player. Yeah. Actually, I'm sorry, Ban Ahead. He went to my high school, so I gotta give a shouts out to that. He

is a bright guy. I've met him before. I'm not thrilled by his size. He I mean, he's one of those John Javis linebackers who he's all about the speed and less about the size. So I'm interested to see I've I've seen him with as high as like a third round grade, which honestly, as an LSU fan, kind of surprises me. Um. I mean, his speed is undeniable.

He loves to hit. I define, I mean he'll he'll out he has a future in the NFL, just as a special teamer at the very least, but I will be interested to see to see how well he can perform. Him overall, I think he's a borderline top one hundred type of player. You know that, And you know you always tend to undervalue the guys you know, because you don't want us top. But that's surprising to me. I mean, I know he's a hell of an athlete. I'm just

not sure how well he fits into an NFL. So you're right about the side, you know, six one two twenty five issue. Well, we'll see officially what he weighs in at Senior Bowl. Another guy, Tyler Madakavich from Temple, and this is going to be an interesting one because he's so productive in college over one hundred tackles the last four seas, each of the last four seas, right, only a seventh player ever to do that. He's not the best athlete, not the biggest, not the strongest, five

eleven six. I think it's exactly. But we've seen these types of guys before who you know, they don't have the measurables, but they just find ways to make plays. And so is Tyler Matacay which one of them. He's

gonna be an interesting evaluation of the Senior Bowl. Yeah, let me give you a name of a guy, and a lot of people have talked about Eric Striker from Oklahoma gotta play will I think, and he is a he is short, and he and he and there's a lot of times we were watching him and he and he just four guy gets stuck trying to do something with the tackle every single time. Now, if you could put him free on the back side and let him run, he can do that. He's but he is short, and

he's felt bad for him. He does that scheme, doesn't I think he's a better player, but the scheme does him no favorites. Let me give you one more guy, and I don't know if he's a fit, but I'd play him as a SAM linebacker here and let him rush. I think he's a three four outside linebacker. Is the kid from is the kid from a Utah state? And that's a yeah, Kyler Facrol, Yeah, I mean, yeah, he is a He is a one of those guys that when you watch him play, he can extend, he can control,

he can shed, and he can tackle. And what they do is they put his hand in the dirt and he can rush. And he's got pass rush moves. He's a swat, swim, push grab. I mean, he's got an idea of how to get to the quarterback. And that's that's something though when you watch him play at the point of attack, make plays, and then you watch him rush. I'll tell you I think some three four teams are gonna fall in love now maybe maybe again the Cowboys.

It's I had him in the second round, and he might and he might very well go in the first. He might very well go on first. Yeah, because he's if you looked at the bottom of whoever those three four teams at the bottom, keep an eye on him at the Sea Bowl. He people are gonna Dane's gonna be tweeting about him. You're gonna be tweeting about him, and I'm gonna be tweeting about him. He's that kind of football Kyler fact role. Yet I'm ready to keep

an eye on him. Uh. This is from Chris, and I just really want to hear y'all argue, because I assume you will. Um, He says, Joey Bosa and Jalen Ramsey are both there at four and who are you taking and why I'm taking Ramsey myself? I had a feeling you would for this team or just in general, let's just do it for this team because it's easier, right, It's you know, it's tough because I do have Jalen Ramsey on my top fifty that I released today, Jalen Ramsey three, Joey Bosa four, So I do have Jalen

Ramsey just and you know, a hair above. But for this team, you know, it's all about pass rush and if Great Carty's not back, I think I might lean Bosa don't. I'm not sure I'm going defensive back two years in a row. But they're both outstanding players and we're splitting hairs at this point. I mean, both guys are going to impact the game in different ways. They're versatile, their tags are touched on your board and that you're saying or you gotta. I mean it's like that you

could go either way and feel good about it. Yeah, and not riding the fence you're not right. Well, you know, I think because you're talking about two different positions and to do ways they impact the game. I think Larrey me Tonsil is a clear cut number one, and then I think two through six or seven you could really be, you know, interchangeable. To me, I mean, I think they're all in the same tier. Guys like the Miles, Jack Laquon,

tread Rolls, Zeke uh Jalen Ramsey, Joey bos So. All these guys are in that same tier where if you're picking top five to six this year, you're gonna a darn good play. See. But he had Zeke at number five. It's best place. But I'm just telling him he's gonna

not do it because it's weird. I mean, we talked about it a little bit last week, Like no other position is like that, where I pretty much agree with Dane that I just don't know that the best running back on the board is worth going top five, even if he is a top Ask him who has the least holes in his top five? He'll tell you Zeke. We'll ask him, it's who has the least holes, and you're tire to It's the same for quarterbacks, except the

opposite exactly. You know, good answer it's written it's you can overlook a perfect running back because you don't want to take him that high, but then take up dude with a lot of questions and put him all the way up in the top five because he plays quarterback, right, I mean, it's not fair, but what do he wants? This is This is why scouts it's not a good profession. It's just it's not cons We love it, but it's not a good profession. Get any more questions here? Day, Yeah,

Johnny shout out. Anybody that uses a Garrett phrase is good in my book. He's talking about position flex with what the Cowboys are huge on. Uh. He's asking Kenyan Drake, the Alabama backup UH worked in the slot, obviously plays running back. Maybe a Dunbar type of guy. If they opt not to resign Dunbar, is Johnny onto something here? What do you think about young Drake? To me, Drake is proof that there is such a thing as moving too fast, because that's that's fair. Drake has tremendous speed

and he hits it quickly. The acceleration, the start stop quickness is there. But he moves too fast. He doesn't you know, he's not a chess player where he sets up his moves and sees things and it's chao absolutely and and you know, I think when we were watching tape of him, you said it. He looks like a wide receiver in the backfield with a slim frame. Just the way he moves and he doesn't have a big catch radius. If if you the quarterback delivers the ball

at his chest, he's gonna catch it. It's anywhere else, he's probably gonna drop it. And so that's gonna limit his value as a third down guy. But we saw in the National Title game on special teams the impact that he can make and and just with the ball in his hands. He's an exciting player. So yeah, I like Kenyan Drake, but you know he does you know, he's a hyperactive runner and sometimes I don't get him

in trouble. Yeah, I totally agree with Dane on this, but you're absolutely right, he's he is one of the A fun player to watch was the Urban Kid if you want to talk about from Santa. Yeah, Santa, Say, who's a shorter player Tyler Ran, Yes, yeah, and you can see what he weighs in at too, I mean one hundred and eighty pounds. No, he's somewhere between one hundred and fifty one hundred and eighty. He's somewhere exactly. But but you watch him on tape and remember he

gets Auburn, he's like he's dashed that. Yeah, it's it's like Lsu played Auburn earlier and they're running with they were running our buddy in there and their power playing powerball, and all of a sudden the urban said, well, Santos say is like, well, maybe the way to run the ball against Auburn is just slamming at him. And they're taking this kid. He was a fun, fun, fun player to watch as far as the running backs, but also but also the motion and throw him the football, yeah

he has. He has a better catch radius than what you were talking about. Al al Borgeous, the offensive coordiner for his hand Jose State understood how to use him right now, was so critical watching him on tape. They just get him in space. Let him be an athlete. Uh. And the reason I give him a chance because he is an undersized guy, and I do give him a chance. It's because he's quick to read his blocks. He finds this a little sliver of space and he goes. And

that's tough though too. I mean he gets tough, absolutely no question. So spends very little time in the backfield, reads it, goes, gets whatever he can and then does

it again in the next place. So I do give Tyler Evern a chance, even though he's you know, like we said one hundred and eighty pounds, soaking a wet Yeah, he's he's he's a fun player to watch because you know Mike McIntyre, he used to be the coach there is now at Colorado and Mike Kid had it going at San Jose a little bit that they're starting to get better players. And are you, I'm sorry, are you

convinced he's got a draft grade. Maybe he's another dumbar too, in the sense that you can sign him after it's over. Oh wait, well we had that, We had that that that situation. I had him in the six myself because I'm looking it's a trade steal with me, dan and and sure, the height, the weight and all that's not gonna be great. But this kid can do some things for you as far as you can create opportunities for him. And he's got the toughness, he's got the explosiveness, and

he's got the quickness. It's a trade steal. It's interesting to me. Well, you just can't predict how that shakes out. That I think we all agreed that Lucky Whitehead had was a six or seventh round pick too, and they were able to sign him. That's exactly where they had him. Yeah, so you never know. I think this kid might get drafted. I get drafted just because of traits. It might come

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here though, we're gonna again take some calls. Kent's gonna line them up for us. We're all doing well as we've always hour. And just make sure you're nice to Ken about your your question and get to it and Kent will turn it over to you. Sure. Lorenzo, North Carolina, Lorenzo, Yeah, go ahead. Hey, Brian, I want you to pose this question because other guys on the other show for me, if you don't mind, Um, sir, but this is what

I want to say them. But everybody think we should draft the quarterback with that first peak, any of y'all fear the fact that UM no quarterback. But except for Romo has really done Will in this system of justing gears. And I read on nht end that that Lanahan said they basically ran the same plays as they did last year. So with that unwillingness to change up, it might be Romo is a good player that can operate this offense.

So we draft the quarterback with that first pick. Is anybody scared that the quarterback might be okay but not adapt then to what he does Will and just speaking with the same system might make the quarterback, you know, the quarterback picks seem like, oh man, that's a bad pick. You know, you know what I'm saying. What do you all guys think about that? All right? Thank you learn?

Thanks um. I mean, I think it's a fair I mean, if you're going back to the season, I think it's a fair criticism that maybe they didn't adapt the offense or Taylor the offense the right way. But I mean you're talking about a why and I know Brandon Whedon was a first round pick, but I think you're talking about a wide spectrum of talent between Kellen Moore and Matt Castle and Brandon Whedon between what you would hopefully

be getting fourth overall in the NFL Draft. I mean, it's up to them to make that evaluation and draft the right guy. But if they think Jared Goff is worthy of a top five pick, I would I mean, that should be a guy that's going to excel in damn near any offense. Of course, I mean, and obviously the staff needs to taylor it properly to him and all that type of stuff, but you're talking about a

different type of talent level. No one knows his offense better than Jason Garrett, and so they're not going to draft a quarterback at four unless Jason Garrett is totally on board with it. You know, it's not like the scout's gonna say, well, we like this guy, we're going to draft him, so you got to figure out how to use them. They're not going to draft the quarterback and four unless Jason Garrett says, yes, I want this guy. So you know, I like I said, no one knows

his offense better than Jason Garrett. So if they draft a quarterback at four, Jason Garrett must be pretty sold that. You know, it's a guy that he can work with, and you know he'll find out next week about Carson Wentz. I mean no One in the NFL. After next week, we'll have a better understanding of Carson Wentz, his thought process, his strengths, his weaknesses better than Jason Garrett. And that's a huge advantage in something that will really go along

with the organization. Will have a great group. Yeah, I think too, though. If we a bunch of names about Manziel, we've also heard RG three. If they're willing to go out and try and get one of those guys, Scott Lenahan and them had better changed the offensive. But if there's one of those guys, no doubt that that'll tell you a lot about the willingness to say, Okay, we're going to continue to do this or we're gonna try

and do whatever. They didn't do a very good job of adapting to what their quarterbacks were able to do last year. In my opinion, it's I think you're absolutely right, and I think one way or another, it's gonna be really interesting because I mean, it could be Kelly Moore, it could be Jared Goff, it could be John Manziel. It's hard to say right now, but I mean there's I think there's going to be a free agent signed at quarterback and I think there'll be a draft pick too,

maybe not for but somewhere along a lot. So there's gonna be some new new faces and new talent at the quarterback spot, I would expect. So it'll be interesting to see how the coaches deal with that. Okay, Camp Connor and Virginia Connor, go ahead, Hey guys, I'm calling about a few players that I'm interested in the draft. Go ahead to share. William Jackson. William Jackson from a gap ahead, got him Senior Bowl guy, and um William Jackson, Nate sud Film and a few other players know it. Spence,

I know he's probably the late first round. And uh, Kevin Dodd from Clemson. Okay, thank you very much, Okay, thank you for your call. Jackson will be the Senior Bowl, Spence is at the Senior Bowl, and Dodd is coming out as a junior incept as a quarterback Indiana, Indiana. And see him at the Shrine game. Uh you see the arm he can sling it, um it just when

he slings it. I don't think he has a great understanding of where it's gonna end up all the time, and so I think that touch is really a question mark with Sudfeld. He's going to be one of those late round developmental types. Uh. Big, he's tall. Uh. He has, like I said, the arm, but you can sling the ball over the field. But the accuracy, Uh, some of his mechanics needs him tweaking. He has a wide bass um and then just is overall touch to all levels

of the field. So I think Sudfeld is draftable, but late and as a developmental guy. Yeah, and I will I will talk about you mentioned about Spence and when you watch him play, the tighter they play him, the harder it is for him to play. You play him a little bit wider and allow him to get going. You will not see a guy in this draft. It has the explosiveness of him coming off the football in

my end now and and you might think both. I you know, I don't want to put words in your mouth or anything about that, but I think when you watch Spence play, I think he is the best pass rusher in this draft. When you when you talk about how you can attack the corner, capture the corner and get flat in a hurry. This kid, there's a reason why he went to Ohio State. I get I get it purely baggage that's putting him down like this. I mean, it's it's, it's, it's, it's it's and it's the situation

where it's it's narcotics, it's drugs. And we've seen before, we've we've talked about the Honey Badgers and guys like that. Well, a quick background, It is ecstasy. That was that was the big thing. It wasn't this isn't like a weed thing or something that you know, people downplay. He had a bad ecstasy problem. And sure he was kicked out of Ohio state, banned from the Big ten. But you know, he's done a lot of work on him and people still talk highly of his character and highly of the

person that he is. He just got caught up in some bad things. But you know, you have to be comfortable with the person before you can be comfortable with the player. And so is he fully clean? Is he fully off this? Uh? This bad habit? You know, no one can truly answer that. Let me see if I got this right. Highly talented mercurial pass rusher, uh kind of maybe a really high profile prospect who's falling down the draft board because of off the field problems, maybe

a drug problem. Sure sounds kind of familiar. Yeah, I think he's fallow in the second round, though, I don't think like Randy gregorys No, this this catch a different pass rusher than will he be Will he be there at thirty four, because that's you don't need him to fall to sixty four. He's a wild card as long as John Snyder's in the league. Well, I have him going to Arizona right now in my first round. Boll. I mean, he's a perfect guy for Bruce arians a

reclamation project. They did it before. Oh yeah, I don't think he's gonna get out of the first round. He's just too talented unless something happen, relapse something. I mean, it's too familiar to happen again. But I mean, if he falls into that range. Though they've traded up for Lawrence, they trade up high for if this dude's as good as y'all say, Oh, he's good. I haven't watched him yet, but if he's sitting there, he'll be the bus. If he's at twenty seven and you're sitting there at thirty

four and he's that good, he'll be the buzz. He'll be the buzz at the Senior Bowl. Quickly on William Jackson, a player that the Cowboys wild coaches at the Senior Bowl. William Jackson tall, rangey player, long strides. He had forty eight passes to fen in college. I mean it's it's a school record for a defense that doesn't get their hands on many football. This kid's a one man team. He can do that, does a lot of wide receiver like things at the catch point. Absolutely, and Dodd was

a guy Clemson. We saw him in the National Champion. I still think Austin's a better player. He made a name for himself beating up on that right tackle from Alabama, though, So sure, Dave, Okay, Kent, who we got, Michael and san Antonio. Michael, you're on. Go ahead, Hey, guys, I have been ever since Romo broke his collarbone. I called in earlier. I've been a golf guy all year, Lung.

I've watched all his games, but I have to be careful as a fan because I need the scouts like you to break his film down to see does it translate to the pro game, Because if you look like at Andrey Whare David Klingler, This guys said all kinds of records. They come into the pros. Their game just didn't match. So I wanted to know, have you been breaking him down and what do you think he translates into the pros? And do you think the Cowboys that's

someone they're really looking at. Yeah, I think they're looking at him. They're doing all these quarterbacks, that's the thing. But thank you very much for the call, Michael Dan. What are your thoughts on golf? Well, you know he comes golf. I didn't say golf. I said golf. Okay, he comes from that air raide off not a golfer. Yeah, I don't ever say golf. I say golf. That air raid offense. It makes it tough at times. It's an offense that's predicated on West Coast principles, quick routes, and

so he made all the adjustments from the sidelines. You didn't see him make calls in the huddle that type of thing. So it's not an ideal scheme to groom a quarterback, but it does teach rhythm, it does teach decision making, and so for a player with his mental process, that's what I'm really impressed with with Goff. Because he doesn't have the big arm, he doesn't have that. He has a good enough arm strength, but just it's not great. He's a little leaner than you want. So the physical

traits aren't outstanding, but they're good enough. But where he's really impressive is intelligence in the way he sees the field. He can use his eyes to hold the safety, can do a lot of those things that he's gonna need to do in the NFL. So I love his pocket awareness, the way he can move, sense pressure, extend plays and get rid of the ball. So to me, Jared Goff, you know, can he start right away? Sure? Could he use some time? Yeah, I'd love to give him some time,

But I think he's gonna find success early. There's two things that I really liked about the and I have lynch over him. You're no, I'm not really, not at all, not at all. I do. I think that the two things. I like how quickly the ball gets out of his hand. And I love his toughness because his offensive line at Cal was awful, and he takes a ton of hits. And he will stand in the pocket and he will deliver the football. And you can watch him when the

pockets clean. He can make throws when the pockets dirty. He can make throws, ball gets out of his hands quick, and he's very, very tough. Though I will say this though, the smart part of it. The kid will make some poor decisions. Now if you watch the Utah game, if he only watched the Utah game, you wouldn't draft him off the Utah game. And I believe he had five interceptions or no, eight interceptions or so, but five of

them more in this one game. And then two or three of them were like bobbles, yeah exactly, and there were two. The last one he threw was just the you know, and they're going for the game winning drive and they're trying to and he just throws it and it's a poor decision. So you know, just keep in mind, though guy through a ton of passes. There's some sometimes

though that the decision making. And that's all quarterbacks though we've we've seen Romo and you could say all these quarterbacks have had but that was one where you're going for the game winner and you have a chance to you know, chance to get it done, and you make that decision. Those are the types of things it scout. It sticks into Scout's mind a little bit. This is elementary and it's not a great reason to draft or not draft a guy. But is is there a quarterback

that's come out of an narrated system? I'm Tim Couch comes to mind immediately, And not that he had a great pro career. I mean, do we have a precedent for this well, and it's and not to you know, to expand it to just you know, these different types of offenses. Yeah, I mean Cam Newton with well, yeah, Marcus Mariota last year. I mean it's you know, all these off college most of these college offenses sure are asking them to do things differently than what pro teams

are gonna ask him to. No, so it's there is an adjustment, there's a little bit of an unknown because they're just gonna be asked to do different things. But that's why I do like golf more than you know, say Lynch, because Golf I think has the mental process to do it, where Lynch. I'm not saying he doesn't, I just have it. I'm not sold that he does. I think, you know, Lynch is just so young in quarterback years. He's such a young player that he just

needs more reps. And I just don't have as good of a feel for his future as I do feel about golf. Yeah, I just to me And it's not just falling in love with measurables, because I think scouts get in trouble that way thinking and it more times than not, you think, oh, he's this tall, he's this big. He's just I just think that in a in an offense where you have to quarterbacks, I think have to be able again, be tall, make the throws, be mobile, get away from trouble. I think in the NFL those

are things, those two trades you have to have. Sure, the offense he's in, they throw the ball sideways, but when you watch him throw slants and ends and things like that, he can rip it and he really can rip it. And I and I'm betting on that you're going to see more of that in the league than the ball going sideways. Yeah, you know, and so that's kind of what I you know, I envision with him. I have nothing against the cow quarterback. I really really don't.

And if he's picked, you know, I can understand it that that's that's on their board. That's the way it should be. So you like the player. I like the player. I have no problem with player. Okay, let's get into

your top of fifty. You put that out on CBS and kind of go through as we have just a couple of minutes here left on the show, kind of go through some of the highlights and and and some of the things and some of the decisions you had to make as you as you went down that board, of like, Okay, I have a guy here for this reason, and give people a little bit of a understanding of why you put a particular player where you did. Yeah, and I think at the top, no surprise, Larry Tunsil.

To me, he's the best player in this draft. And then you know, like I said before, the probably one through six is where I feel really good about that first tier guys like Miles Jack, Jalen Ramsey, Bosa Zeke and Treadwell um At Jared Goss my first quarterback, he's at number nine, and then I have Wentz at twelve, So those two guys are pretty closed. And then I have Lynch all the way down at twenty nine. So a little bit of a Again, it's just more I like Lynch, I like the tools. I think he's gonna

start in this league. I just don't have as good of a feel for what his future looks like. But we do have twelve players on my top fifty that are currently on the Senior Bowl roster and a couple other guys that would have been. But yes, who was a player that you struggled with the most on your board? And it might be uh, Kim dici ol Miss defensive tackle. He's one of the top ten talents in this class, There's no question about that. He's just not one of

the top ten football players. And that's where you have to struggle with, you know, where to put him with his off field issues. On the field, you know, he had what seven and a half sacks in three years. You just want more production for a player with that type of ability. You see the flashes, they're outstanding. They just it's not consistent. At this point, a lot of people are going to be wrong about him. You think about Kim dici ye wrong in the sense that he's

being I feel like he's being undervalued right now. You you you you think that he needs to be in the top ten. I think I kind of feel like he would be in the top ten if not for that episode with the hotel room right after the season ended. I mean and and yeah, the on field production hasn't been great by his standard. I mean we're talking about the number one overall recruit when he came out of high school. I covered him. Um, it hadn't been great.

But yeah, I mean he's I mean, he's a freaks sometimes when you watch we go back and you watch the Alabama game because we were watching the center, you know, watching Kelly play and and and you forgot about him getting up the field and getting into tackles for loss and things like that. It's way too easy of a comparison because they went to the same school. But he reminds me of Hardy in the sense that I think you could put him at almost every position on the

line if you wanted to. I mean, it would be effective. Yeah, I see. And that's I disagree a little bit there because I think he's more of a three three. I mean, he is a defensive tackle, he is, but I think he's a three only because he struggles a two gap and you know, I just I don't know if you get him up the field, that's the whole thing. If you get a run gap attack, and I and honestly, I question how much he loves football, how much does he want to be great? You know? I mean, how

how much does he want to be great? That as a criticism the coach or anybody tells me a guy doesn't like football that immediately, and it's not that he doesn't, it's just you don't know, and that's an unknown right now. And other things more important, How badly does you know a lot of these players are gifted, but they have to put the work in to be great. And I'm

not sure Kimdc's gonna put the work into it. If you like, lined him up like at the way in at the Senior Bowl, just lined him up, you know, and did measure. I mean, he would be like no doubt. Everything else about him makes me feel like he falls down the board a little bit. But your bottom five guys forty five already burns Miami guy that plays speeds there Um, I think there's a lot of potential for burns. Vernon Butler, Louisiana attack. He's on the Cowboys back with

a Senior Bowl. Uh. Lower bodies quick, upper bodies strong, so a lot to work with their Josh Dawson unfortunately, the wrist injury is not healthy yet, so he will not be at to see your bowl, but a player that goes and gets the ball. Jason Spriggs at forty eight, Indianna tackle, very athletic, former tight end, you know, yeah, two hundred and sixty five pounds when he showed up. Four year starter. I think that he's a future NFL starter.

Braxon Millard forty nine, we talked, talked, touched on him and his athletic potential. Will get a close look at him in mobile and at fifty Ryan Kelly another guy we talked about. Top center in this class. Absolutely. I can't get over how exciting it is this year. Is that you know, you're talking about Dame's top fifty. You're talking about guys who could theoretically be in the Cowboys range with their third round pick because they're picking so high.

I mean, so that's true picking in the sixties. You're right there. Maybe some guys don't like some teams don't like these guys as much as the Cowboys do. So I mean they're gonna be able to get some I mean not there's always talent in the draft, but you're talking about getting guys in the third round who are second And there were a couple of guys that I hated leaving. You know, Tyler Boyd from Pitt Kentroll Brothers Missouri, Josh Perry, Ohio State. There's a guys I really wanted

to include my top fifty. I just I ran out of room room. So you know, you're always an evolving list, though you never know exactly. I'll do four of these. I'll do one right after the combine, one after Pro Days, and then one final one before the Draft. Okay, well, that's all the time we have in the Draft Show. Thanks everybody out there for making us a part of your day or your evening. Whenever you get a chance to listen to us, make sure you follow on Dallas

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