Draft Show: Reviewing Dane's 7-Round Mock

to happen. We're kind of sailing along right now. We're just looking for land. When you put it, when you put it in terms of days, it sounds really close. Yeah, But put it in terms of weeks, it's still six weeks away. Yeah, But it just feels like though we're starting to have, you know, the pro days are starting to kick Colorado, Alabama. Yeah. Somebody asked me on Twitter

last night, and I mean, I have a ballpark. We don't know exactly when the thirty visits start, though, do we And it like the week of April generally April. They don't watch the week before the combine or the weeks I mean the week before the draft they stop. Yeah, so it's any of those first three. Ye us first three, So the end of March, they usually do them after everybody gets done with right in that way, all the scouts and they're off the road, the prods back of

the facility. Yeah right, that's the voice of Dane Helman. David Hellman was speaking earlier k Dan Brugler. But I say, he said, Dane Hellman, damn you, Dane Burglar. David Hellman cash, I'll get this right one of these days. Kit Garrison, Executive producing today. Uh. I want to jump into something right now, real quick, do it. And it's not one of my rants. But no, you put together for the Dallas Morning News, you put together a Cowboy seven round mock draft. I didn't. And now that we have the

comp picks, we have, the coin flips are done. We know the full one through two fifty six draft order. So cowboys sitting there with ten picks, chance to get better, all right? He teased last last show on Oh that's right, he teased that he's going to have a surprise pick for the Cowboys there at nineteen. So I'm interested to

get into this. I want to hear. I don't know if Dan agrees with your assessment of surprise based on his face here, I don't know if I just don't feel like I have a feeling I knew who this guy is gonna be. I took my shot on Monday or Tuesday. I don't see if I was right. Okay, well, why don't you take it over there a steam scout and kind of walk us through what you did with your seven round mock draft. Now, though, the have to say, you know, Freedency's about to start, and that could change

a lot. Yeah, it could change a lot of things for the Cowboys, it's not going to change very much. They're gonna draft players, So go ahead, go ahead and go through this mon much to the chagrin of all of their faces. You have to say that though you never know, Earl Tom never know, alright, so go away picks you okay with that? Yes, yeah, he's your Hall of Famer. Uh, let's go to the seven round mock, first round nineteen. Overall, I didn't do any trades, just

keep it simple, keep it chalk. Coming out of the combine, I would put it at fifty fifty. I'm liking my odds here that this player is gonna be at nineteen and just I know what he's gonna say. I just do I just go, just say please. With the first pick in the twenty eighteen NFL Draft for the Cowboys, the nineteen overall, they'd take Calvin Ridley. Yes, sail Obama.

And I didn't look for whatever that's worth. I did not look at this and look, hey, we know this team has not touched the top three of their wide receiver depth chart the last five years have not touched it. And it's it's about time to make some upgrades. It's about time that they just infuse some young talent to help out your quarterback, help about that offense, helped put points on the board. Calvin Ridley can do that. And look, I get it. He didn't have the greatest jumps at

the combine. He ran a four four three for me, a sub seven second three cone drill. The biggest concerns with Ridley remain the same. He's one hundred and ninety pounds. I worry about, you know, taking hits along the sideline, going over the middle. Just that does worry me a little bit. But at nineteen, I feel great. I mean, and the biggest difference, you know, some people will say, well, it's a deep wide receiver group, wait till the second round. Sure,

Calvin Ridley is going to start from day one. I mean, at least that's my That's part of the appeal of Calvin Ridley in the first round. He helps you right away. You know, with a player like James Washington or you know, some of these other second round options, there's a question about how early they'll be able to contribute. I don't have that question with Calvin Ridley. I think he's a day one player. This goes back to you know, we say this all the time. I've been saying since January.

You start out with an idea of these players, and then you know, by now you have a completely different idea. We were saying in January that Calvin Ridley was a pipe dream, but just the chatter and the workouts and it all kind of starts to come together. And yeah, it's a's not a it's not a safe bet. Yeah, but I can at least talk myself into thinking that Calvin Ridley would be there, and if he is, I

think they would heavily consider. You're totally okay with that, right, Yeah, I mean, you know, tomato tomato I've made my opinions about wide receiver very clear, but I would applaud that pick. I don't have real quick Daine, for what you know about guys that were taken in last year's draft in the first round. How do you feel about Ridley as compared. I'm not asking to compare them to every single guy, damn it, but there's some of them we got. We

gotta twitter questions. Okay, we'll save that for that, save that for them. Let me ask you real quick what just put a ballpark percentage chance on what you think if you think the Cowboys will draft a wide receiver in the top three rounds this year. I think it's it's like I think, I think you're seventy five percent absolutely, yeah before free agency? Yeah yeah, I think so. I think i'd go like eighty percent. I think they're I think they're gonna do anything their poss and power, like

you said, to help the quarterback. And if a rop receivers on the board there at nineteen, all right, good pick us. Okay, going to round two again, no trade fifty fifty overall. I will have second day coverage for you on that Friday. This one, this is a little trickier. I don't. Yeah, they went off. It's in the first round. In the first round, I'm going defense. In the second round, there was a two thousand and ten they drafted a

big ten linebacker. Worked out pretty pretty pretty well two To be fair, they've drafted a lot of big ten linebackers, but in the second round. But you're talking about a very specific one in the second round, right yeah, uh, Sean Lee, let's go back to the big ten the second round. Josie Jewel Jewel, y'all's guy, he's this is just the Dane pet Cat draft right here. So this is what you should do, surelading for this draft right now,

you've plug him in at the mic. Yeah, Jalen's you're Sam John lose your will and all of a sudden and Anthony Hitchins you know, one eyewa linebacker route one eyewa linebacker in Yeah, and you're set. I mean, you feel good about you're all of a sudden linebacker which was an issue. Yes, you know you're an injury away from him it being an issue again, but at least you feel good about the player you were bringing in

and again a day one starter. That's another you know some people might say, hey, wait till the third round. I don't think Josi Jewel makes it eighty one, and part of the appeal at fifty he starts from day one. I have to make the determination if I wanted one Alabama player over another, maybe at nineteen if it was Evans. You know, now does Evans kick me in another direction? I mean, now, does Dane turn around and nab a receiver.

That's keep an eye on that for the Cowboys if they go receiver first and turn around and go linebacker second, or it could be the other way around. You understand what real quick will wuld you rather have Ridley Jewel or Evans gallop Ridley Jewel? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, I would too. But I'm just saying keep an eye on that. Okay. We flipped down to pick Well, that's the same conversation we had a million times last year. I think that's one or the other. Yeah, can go

one or the other. I really really do so. Yeah, but I like that. I like Josie Jewel as a as that pick there. I don't look at the time, look at the watch the player, watch the tape, watch the tape, just just not against Juan Barkley. Oh, though he embarrassed a lot of people. Though, Yeah, Josie Jules a fine player. I mean, you put as many guys in the field that can tackle. Jewel could tackle, Lee, could tackle. Good philosopher, and we've seen and we've seen

whatever you have to do with Jalen Smith. Late in the year, he was tackling a little bit better. So yeah, why not let's go. Okay, third round pick eighty one, stick in the big ten. We've replaced two starters here. Yeah, we have stick in the Big ten. But let's go to offense. I know a lot of fans aren't on board with a tight end in the top one hundred, but in this tight end class plenty of talent. Ian Thomas from Indiana. There you go a guy who doesn't

need to be a starter from day one. Obviously, Jason Wenton's holding that down at least for this year, maybe you know, for the next two years, maybe more. Who knows. He's entering his year thirty six season, thirty six years old season. But Ian Thomas, as you project him forward, who are we talking to? It is Prisco. We're sitting

there talking with Pete Prisco. Yeah, we were talking about Ian Thomas, how it wouldn't be a shock if you know, we look back at this draft four years from now and Ian Thomas is the best tight end from this group. And I don't disagree with that. I'm a big fan of Ian Thomas. And if you can get him in the third round, develop him and starting in you know, he can help you out in two and eighteen. But really you're drafting him for twenty nineteen and beyond. I

don't love it. But if you're gonna do it, that's I mean, okay, third round more palatable than first or second. Yeah, I'm trying to think though, what I like him over, say, give me some guys that are like defensive tackles. Would the naughty n would that? Would that be a different direction you would go. Maybe. I'm just trying to think of guys that i've kind of, you know, the type. I don't have a problem with Ian Thomas. I think he's a really good player. I think Dane's got him

absolutely right. I just wonder on that board, am I looking at the defensive? Am I looking at the safety? Maybe two there? You know, if you're gonna move Byron Jones, is there a safety, you like, I mean, I'm gonna cheerlead all day for that kid at Tennessee. I think he's a safety. I'm gonna cheerlead for the wake Forest kid Bates. You know Bates will be gone by eight yeah one? Right? Well, yeah, where would you take Crookshank? You know, I mean, that's a strong safety right there

that can tackle. I mean, I know he's kind of rose up the boards. I got Edmonds, the Terrell Edmonds from Virginia Tech. How about White from West Virginia would be a guy. I know you probably don't have him that high, but I mean, again, that's but I'm okay with that. I mean, I'm just trying to think of some other names that I might go another direction with. I like, I like what you're saying. I don't have

a problem with Ian Thomas as a player. I just have a problem with wasting a high draft pick sitting behind Jason Witten for the time being and just well, depending on what they do too. With We've kind of hearing some whispering about what they're gonna do with James Hannah, maybe salary related cut. Even then, you've also got the team two. We need to see something from Rico Gathers. I know that, you know, you're not around the team

every day like we are. But Gathers and at training camp did some good things and then he got hurt. So is that a possibility? But yeah, Ian Thomas at eighty one is not a bad player. And one of the players you mentioned just now, just you rambled through a bunch of names. One of those players is the picket in the fourth round at one sixteen. Okay, good, uh so, all right, so you're telling him we can

have our cake and eat it too. Yeah, I mean I try to make this as realistic as possible, yet it always do You didn't, you didn't just do the fans speak where you're drafting like Tremaine Edmonds in the fourth round? Four first round picks? Go ahead, No, in the fourth round at one sixteen, and I have the Cowboys taking Folly to tackle from yukon the defensive tackle who. I don't think it's out of the round of possibility that he's there at one sixteen. I think we both

agree we have third round grades on him. Yep. Sure would not shock me at all if he's there. I mean I got him right there with naughty and with Settle. Those are my guys right there and those so, uh, he's a good player. That would be a good pick. I mean, there's your one technique. Now again, he's got some traits, but it's not taking a first round one technique, you know what I'm saying, Taking a guy that has a little has a little flexibility to him inside. I

think that's a good idea. That would still be a departure from what they usually do because typically you're talking six and seventh rounders for one. I think they need to change that philosophy a little bit. Oh. I got asking Will McClay and Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones to completely abandon everything they do because I felt like they've drafted pretty well. But you need to look at these kids. That's why I mentioned him in the third round, Dane. I was trying to say, Okay, who are the third

round other than the end? But you came back to me and maybe the argument that they have in the war room is if we knacked this, if we take this tight end, now, we are going to come back and get one of these defensive tackles. Get ready, get ready, boys, We'll just follow him whatever whatever's going down that board. Keep an eye on who the best defensive tackle is up there, because we're gonna hit him at one sixteen. Yeah that's okay, go ahead, Well two fourth round picks

one thirty seven. You mentioned safety possible need, Joshua Kalou from Nebraska. Ah, this is a new name. Former corner moved to safety, who headed up and down season. But you like the traits. Yes, he has a physical appetite with the way he plays. Uh, he can be that big nickel defender and grow into a free safety role. I think you project him down the line as a starter at free safety. So Kalue the second pick in the fourth round, better than Watts or those kind of

guys I'm talking about. Or's Wat's gone? I mentioned White West Virginia Watts. Yeah, I mean I haven't seen Kalu yet. You're ahead of me on the game here. I need to study that. Wats is probably ahead. I assumed he'd be off the board, Okay, I worked with more of a foot war five prospects rather than a three four. Okay, does that follow him with Trey Flowers? Is that kind of in that line of thinking then? Or is that Yeah? I got Flowers a little bit farther down. Okay, that's fine,

that's fine. He would be in the mix with Tracy Walker from the Cocquisiana m Jeremy Reeves, South Alabama seeing him not a bad player, but but a fourth fifth round got you and that camp picks at the end of the fourth round, So okay, got you? So your safety gets hit there at the at the camp pick four. What was the number on that pick? One thirty seven?

Thank you very much? Okay, fifth round. Two picks in the fifth round one seventy one and one seventy three, with the first pick at one seventy one, going back to offense, getting a running back than I was gonna say, when are we getting my third round? My third running back? I like it? Go for it a guy you probably have heard of, Darryl Williams. Uh game, Why are you trying to make me so happy this morning? It's came in here determined to be in a bad mood. You're

not letting it like him? You know, he's starting the shadows behind Fournett and guys, and I like it. He's ready to break out and be uh fifth round right stuff? Yeah, any any down you want him to play you can you know, you want to serve a third down role, you wanna play on first down. You can do whatever you want. That's probably one of those guys. It's on the board. It is probably a little higher, and we're like, hey, listen, we got this tag sitting there. Let's not ignore that tag.

You know, that's where you start talking about this stuff. I can talk my I have no problem believing Darryl Williams will be there at pick one seventy three. But it's a mistake by the NFL if he is, in my opinion, like they made a mistake on that kid at Tennessee that Saint's got, mister Kamara exactly. Yeah, so let's pick one seventy one, one seventy three. Going back to defense. Uh, developmental pass rusher aid a runa from Tulane. Oh, I'm just rotten raid in Louisiana this or this round.

A guy born in Nigeria came over to play college or to play college basketball. Right, football coaches got one look at him and said, no, you're you're coming over here? Played only one season high school. Uh, you see the traits and there needs to play wide. Stick him in there, don't play him is a head up five till to lane moved to a three man front. Yeah, he's playing at he's playing like a base in. Don't do that

with this kid, Move him wide six five. I got got the things right here, Hold on just a second here, So he's I mean, this is yourself just rawer than sushi, is what you're telling me here? He is, but he's got he's got the ability to get the edge. He really really see the field. He shouldn't see meaningful snaps as a rookie. Sure, yeah, so well yeah, it's I could make a mean comment about last year's draft, but I'm not going to. That's that's good. Um so yeah,

he's he's very, very raw. It doesn't really know what he's doing. But six zero four five two sixty two. Uh, how about the speed right here of the average of four six three? Not bad for traslayer. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. Only like twelve sacks over thirty four starts. Didn't have the greatest production. But again he was played out of position when they went to the don't play mus a head up now they went to like a three man front. It was bad, bad situation for him. Put this guy

in the wide nine Adrian claymarn go. Yeah, he's got some traits. You're absolutely right, all right, I like that. Seven picks or seven picks in again, no trades or anything, so we're gonna pick all ten. Two picks in the sixth round went back to offense offensive line. Haven't drafted an offensive linement yet to this point, right, Yeah, No, have not get some depth, maybe a swing tackle, maybe a guy that can help you out to guard Nick Gates from Nebraska, second Nebraska player off I got a

fifth round on my board. Corn Husker heavy draft here. Yeah, Tanner Lee's next quarterback. No, it's not like whoa now Gates. He was a left tackle for the Huskers. But you can play him inside. Yeah, probably were his best you know, smaller area, a better chance for him to succeed, but he needs some work with his strength, his technique. Another guy that you can think you can develop and he can be something for you at some point in his

rookie year and then moving forward. Yeah, but I thought he was a much I thought he was a good athlete. He is kind of walking watching him, you know, body control, balance, I can use a better punch you're talking about to speed, but you know, tends to give up the inside. That's where your strength comes in though. But I don't disagree with you on the ability you know with him, but you know, sometimes guys get the corner on him, but he manages to recover, you know. I mean that shows

a little bit about his athletic ability there. So right, all right, Okay, next pick. I'm gonna need some help with this last name o Western Kentucky linebacker. Are you taking a look at him yet? I've watched the Western Kentucky quarterback that look pretty good yesterday with last name white White. It's a good quarterback on defense Joel eya boo kneeway from Western Kentucky. If Dan doesn't know how

to pronounce, to watch this. Okay, I'm looking, I'm looking at it spelled out right now and yeah that's I think he did about as good as anybody could ask. When you're eating alphabet soup and you look down, yeah that's what it looks, you know it was he buy Yeah? Yeah, once again trades guy traits in the sixth seventh round. Yeah again yeah, trades guy who he ran well. Uh and this past year for Western Kentucky. He had over a hundred tackles. Yea, you know there's some This backfield

vision needs some work. Uh. He tends to overpursue some things he needs to work on, but he projects. I don't see him as a future starter, but he at least has some traits where you feel comfortable bringing depth to the linebacker group. Uh. Probably best in the week side. So but I think he can provide as a rookie some death I got it Western Kentucky says it's pronounced eya buny way, which is actually way easier. It looks yeah, eya, there's a g in there, but you don't Yeah, I

don't even bother with yeah. Okay, So that's just six pick at two O eight or six round pick at two O eight, final pick, seventh round, two thirty six. I went back to offense. Why not draft a quarterback? There you go. Chase Lytton from Marshall, the Thundering Herd junior here came out early. Who he's like the East Coast version of Josh Allen, where the physical traits are arm, got the big arm. He's a tall, lanky kid. Uh, not at the same athlete as Josh Allen. But it's

not a statue either. Um, he can some of his throws. You watch his highlights and you wonder why he's not a second round pick. When you watch the full film, then you're okay, yeah, that's why he's a late rounder. But he's he's very young. Um, the interviews will be important for him. Just see where he is in his development. Should have went back to school for a senior year,

but decided to leave early. At this point in the seventh round, take take a chance on a physically gifted quarterback to see which you can we can develop him into with his measurables. The tape, the tape must be something. If he's still a seventh round pick at six six with an arm, with a big arm, it's all over the but the tapes all over the place. It's I mean, I can show you clips where he's just he's missing screens by five yards. It's just he needs mechanics. Everything

he needs built up. But he has what you can't teach. That's you know, the size, the arm strength. Um. And again, seventh round quarterbacks, the lottery tickets give it a go. Funlottle project for Kellen Moore can you get this straft will be on Dallas Cowboy Stack. I mean see me Dallas Morning News. Yes, yes, it is on the Sunday edition. Is that we're looking at. I think I just posted

this today and say it's it's out right now. Okay, So yeah, you could go and check it out on on Dane's Twitter and you can get the full rundown on that. Check out. Those guys tell me what I did wrong. There's a couple of guys that don't worry. Everybody will tell you what. Oh, yes, you can always count. That's what the mock drafts all about. I love the draft as a whole. I like especially the big picks. I'm I'm in. Um. The main thing for me is

I and I get it's a mock draft. I understand, but there's no way they're gonna make all ten picks. I yeah, but he's Yeah. The thing about the mock draft too is always though, and you try and pick ten guys. It's it's difficult to do. But you know the thing I always appreciated about the way you do your mock it's realistic. Oh, I mean it's so realistic to what's going to be there, what's not going to

be there. That's the kind I always pay attention to your mock drafts, and I appreciate you doing one for your job, But for us here on mock drafts at this point in the year, it's not really for accuracy and just look at scenarios. Yeah, it's just look at how you know, this is one possibility of a realistic way it could play out. And look if it played out like this. And I'm a Cowboys fan, I'm feeling

pretty darn games. I need to watch that safety from Nebraska. Yeah, I do that, is Gay told me I need I need to do that. I was watching quarterback I had them at the late in the late fourth round, and you know, up and down season, but there's some traits there. Sounds good. All right, we're gonna take our first break, then we come back. We're gonna get to your questions if you have some about Dane's mock or just any questions in general. We'll do a little twitter on the twenty,

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This is the Dallas Cowboys dot com Draft. Youwboys, You're back here in the SWBC Morgan Studios Brian brought us Dain Burglar, David Helm and K Garrison Executive producing. Give me a date on the Beast because I know I've been working on our magazine probably have it out the first of April is what we're looking at. It's kind of our target date. Uh. You know, we like to put out our magazine every year that we've We've done ever since I've been here, So that's a lot of fun.

I'll be holping with that too, doing some comparison. You will be absolutely you're involved with that. But tell us about the Beast. It's coming out hopefully in a couple of weeks. It's I work and work and work until one day I say, okay, five prospects. That's enough here, that's all. You can just put it out there. So I'm looking at the end of Arch, early April. Um, I'd like to let fans have it, so the whole

few weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so all of April up until the draft to digest everything that's in there and go from there. So yeah, look for that next few weeks. It's working day and night to get it done, Okay, and that'll be it. We'll put that out on your Twitter feed too, right, Yeah, definitely, and I'll make sure that everyone knows about it, and you won't. You won't need to search to find him. Yeah. With the draft

being here in Dallas too. You know, be something to have not only our magazine from Dallas Cowboys, but also Dane's beast that will get you covered up for this draft. Okay, David Helmet, give me a little twitter on the twitter. Uh yeah. So I cut you off in the first segment because I loved this question that we got. So we'll start out with that, um billy uh he and I directing this probably more so at Dane than US two.

But he said, where would you rank Calvin Ridley and DJ Moore among the other top receivers that was going to come from the last three years? And I mean, I know you know this anyway, but I went and looked just to help you out. Last year you had Mike Williams one and Corey Davis two. Year before that it was Laquon Treadwell one and Corey Coleman two. And

then before that it was a Marie Cooper and Kevin White. Yeah, so how did they stack up with those three years worth of guys, which, yeah, basically none of them have well, Amari Cooper. But when you stack wor receivers and you talk about ranking them, it's tough because like with Ridley, like I don't think he's a future number one. I think he's a future high in number two. But a guy like Laquon Treadwell, we projected him as number one. Yeah, oh yeah, sorry I didn't mean Olympian, but oh yeah,

we know we looked at him as a potential number one. UM, and so that inflated his draft grade a little bit. UM. Last year with Mike Williams and uh oh the Western Michigan kid Davis, Yeah, it more injuries than anything. They both went top seven, which I don't think none of us saw that happened. I thought maybe one wide receiver. And then John Ross going nine to the Bengals. So three in the top ten. That's tough because I think

there's there's so different than what they offer. I think Calvin Ridley would probably be uh you know, right there with with like a Mike Williams in my rankings, um like Sam Maary Cooper. And that's an interesting comparison because you know Alabama, Mary Cooper's a little bigger. So I think Mary Cooper had to hire grade. But Calvin Ridley

is not far behind him. All these wide receivers are so different, and I think, again, what separates Ridley is he's NFL ready because of his route running, and that's that's a lot of these receivers. We can't say that about Nut. You couldn't say that about Treadwell, couldn't say that about last year with Mike Williams, Uh, Corey Davis. He wasn't a bad route runner, you know, he's more polished than a lot of these guys. But Ridley, that's what really separates him, and so it makes it tough

to stack him. I remember Davis just every ball that seemed to go to him with some spectacular and there was underneath route sideline something to play. Yeah. Absolutely, every I mean everything about him was just special. I'm surprised that these were receivers that have been drafted have not had the success. And I know people say, okay, well you have to learn, you have to do this, have to do that, but I was expecting a lot more

from those guys. Well, like like Dave said, injuries was to say, well, I mean with everybody except probably Laquon and well now Coleman said injuries too. I mean Coleman, Oh yeah, that's the biggest thing. Williams, Davis and White all have I mean barely. Even Kevin White hasn't had a career. He can't stay in the field at all. It's really unfortunate. Yeah, Corey Coleman, he's it was a hand last year. He can't stay on the field. That's so far up to this point, that's been a bus

for the Browns. Yeah, it's It makes you kind of think twice about a receiver early just because of how things have turned out. But you can't let that creep into your mind. You have to just do. You have to judge the player for who he is and not go based on what Kevin White would happen to him in Chicago. See that my expectations for this group is not as high as it has been in the past. Yeah, I would agree. I mean, and maybe these kids will

not to be better players. Yeah, maybe they'll turn out to be you know, they come in and you will see some guys that do a little bit better job. So yeah, I'm I'm with you on that though. Really some interesting current events today. I'm sure y'all saw Darius Geiss was asked at the combine if he was attracted to men by an NFL team. I don't think we know the question, but Randall asked, I mean sensitive subject matter. There's I mean, there's plenty of people weighing in about it.

It's you know, controversial topic, and you know, what are your thoughts on those types of questions? It seems highly inappropriate to me, and I mean, I know it is. It is an interesting line though, because like you want to find out and I mean, you know, if a guy had you know, let's say, domestic violence in his past, like you want to know about that, you want to know, you know, remember keeping it with LSU running backs, Jeremy Hill had a lot of questions to answer about his past.

But in my opinion, at least, this is a little more delicate, a little more private. It doesn't seem like something that needs to be a guy needs to be getting grilled about. But I'm just I guess y'all's thoughts about I just me and all my experience of sitting in there and interviewing guys, I would have never asked that question. I do remember players. If a player brought

it up, I think it's fair game. I remember it was a it was a cornerback that you know, said hey, you know I get I mean, he was basically tell me. He's got a drinking problem. I mean a real drinking problem. He says, you know, I just can't I can't kick this and and all that and I and that's when the questions become, have you tried to get help if you you know what as the university done anything for you? You know, And then I totally think it's fair game.

Then I wouldn't take that plan of attack of asking. And I can speak from experience. I have a gay brother, and so my tolerance for people that that you know, have that phobia or whatever, you know, I'm I think everybody has their own lives and stuff like that. And you know, you lead your life, you do the best you can, and you'd be as productive as you can. But I'm a little bit more sensitive to the plight of my brother. Sure, so I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I

wouldn't go that route because I wouldn't question. I mean, my brother, his partner is a tremendous man, and it was an executive with Shell Oil, and you know, a great guy. But I just feel like, in this setting, though you areguing these guys a lot of money, I

think there's questions at our fair game. But I just don't think that's one of the Well, it's not something in the workplace that you can ask in an interview, and I think that I think that's I'm sorry I keep talking about this, but it kind of means something to me. I just feel like, though you know, these are job interviews, they really are. You're trying to find out about the employee you're potentially gonna have and so,

but I don't think you can go that line. If laws protect you in the workplace, laws should also protect you. And a shame for the guys or the team that asked that question. We should know better than that. We should be better with our questioning than than asking those types of questions. Yeah, I mean, I agree with what you're saying. Um, you don't have to agree with what I'm saying. I'm my personal experience. I guess my only thing is and I'm not saying that the line of

questioning was right. What I'm saying is from a scouts perspective, you want to you don't want to any surprises. Yeah, you know, when when you draft a player, when you invest especially a first round pick, if you had invest in a player, you don't want any surprises. In you know, six months, and you know that a team might be completely okay with it, but they just they don't want that surprise. And so but that does bring up the you know, is it is it appropriate or not to

ask the question? The NFL has been clear with what they said. They came out and said it's an inappropriate line of questioning. And it'll be interesting to see what the NFL does from here if they take any action. Is they're going to be an investigation to find out who asked it, what team and just try to make an example of someone so it doesn't happen again. I just feel like though that to me, that's a question

you can ask on the side. Okay, in that setting, you know, are they are they trying to are they trying to confirm a rumor? You know that somebody at LSU tell them that, hey, that Darius guysy. I mean, is there a way to handle that other than in that setting? And well, my big thing is he pulled the guy aside. I get. I get that you don't want to make it a formal question in that setting.

I get that you don't want to surprise on something you're investing so heavily and but you know, to your point about the drinking problem or domestic violence, right, those are surprises that's going to keep this guy off the field what he decides to do in his personal life, you know, in terms of who he you know, whatever, Right,

that doesn't really affect him as a football player. If if it comes to the light and you've got a lot more news crews at your facility because of it, I get it, distractions and all that stupid crap that football coaches say. But like, at the end of the day, if if you like the guy enough to draft him, sorry if you have to deal with that. But I just don't think it's a big enough deal that you need to be dragging that out in a job interview. I mean, that would never happen in any other industry.

I'm gonna be sitting in at a bar in Costa Rica one day and this is not going to be a problem. Yeah, I would agree. I mean I look forward to that day preferably in your lifetime. Yeah, I look forward to the day where you know, everybody's just you know, we're all we're all good with each other, we're all good. We're just trying to trying to do the best we can and hopefully that'll happen. I dig it, Brian, I dig that. Um more football based, Dominic. I really

like this. We're not going to ask that question, by the way, We're not gonna ask that question when we get into it. Oh when we have our own team, We're not going to do that. When we run, we're gonna find about these players, but we're gonna do it the right way. Right. UM. I really like this question your next team. It's basically Dominic is basically asking how the talent stacks up in this draft. To the point

of mock draft you just did. He doesn't want names, but just based on what you know about the talent in this draft and how it stacks what would your ideal picks be at nineteen and fifty position? I don't care about the player I with do that? Didn't we kind of thought, like, man, yeah, we sever and a linebacker would be ideal. Dave just kind of said, hey, guys, we just let's look at our board. We just feeled to two starting positions right right there? Is that your

preferred order? And we I know we talked about that in the first segment, but we'd say that this receiver class is so deep. If I told you to Ley was on the board, what if I told what if I told you the linebacker at nineteen was Roquan Smith, he changed your mind. Let's go qu He's higher on my board too, So yeah, let's take the better player. Yeah.

I think to me that the thing that we did something for our shows for the Blitz that was talking about if the positions were wiped out, Dane and this was a wiped out call was for guards, And I think you're okay on a wipeout guard. Yeah, I mean, the most reluctant yeah of all. No, but but okay, I'm just saying if it was I mean, I know you'll probably say, Okay, well, who are the other who's the other receivers on the board, who are the other

linebackers on the board. Who the defensive tackles that are on the board. Well, And what I'm hoping is that the Cowboys do something in free agency where we don't need to be talking about. You know, if they they add that Jonathan Cooper come on back too. Better than Jonathan Cooper, but you can get someone that is established in this league. He's not going to cost you an arm and a leg who can be a band aid, and the offensive line would be just fine, and that

eliminates offensive line for you in the first round. That would be my hope. So we don't have that dragon on and I just have a tough time envisioning a scenario where it's that much wiped out where I'd water an offensive line in there. I think there should be at least someone there i'd feel comfortable with. Would you take the linebacker from Alabama over the two and over any of the guards in the first round? Yeah, I think I would. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I don't. I

don't like that guy. I mean, yeah, it's happening to be one of those picks. When it happens at night, team, we're all gonna look at each other and it's like, Okay, that's gonna be a vander esh No, that's gonna be me and Brian are gonna leave you to do this alone. If that's the pick, well, I'm gonna have to walk out and go down to the store to get my jersey, my number forty. I thought you're like your victory cigar. Yeah that too. Yeah, Red r Back just fired it up.

I'm throwing y'all this question. We answer this question by the way, I think I'm a linebacker wide receiver. That's kind of how guard. I mean, it might set up that one maybe guard safety. I see, well, I safety upsets me because if the safety's James or that's not happening unless they trade up. Okay, that's would you sacrifice to eighty one to go get James? Yes, I'd sacrifice fifty to go get James, who was eighty one for

us in our muck and Thomas. Yes, tight end, we're not gonna use Yeah, let's go get And I'm sorry. I love I love you like a scout and I but I don't think a third round is gonna be enough. If not, that's why you give up fifty two and just do it. I don't know if see how I got that's fifty end? Yeah? Yeah, Oh so you're going nineteen and fifty to go get that pick? Yes, Derwin James, who can start at safety, play some slot, play some linebacker.

Yeah right, probably lean that way. Um, yeah, we got okay, So who would you rather have Calvin Ridley and Josie Jewel or Calvin or Derwin James. That is good that's good, and I don't I don't know that you could really go. But his first two picks he fixed, he fixed the problem for you. I don't know that you can. I think either one of those I think the Cowboys get better by doing either one of those things. So it's like two really good players or one potentially great player.

That which I mean, Dan, I'm gonna need you to draft somebody at eighty one. I don't know if there's a right or run. I'm gonna need you to draft somebody eighty one. Brian, I'm gonna need you. I need you to come with somebody big at eighty one. Brian always tells us we never get off the fence. I'll do the trade. I'll go up and be bold and get the bad at I had that. I really think this first. I said this, and you got mad at

me a couple of weeks ago. I did. I know, if you want a heartbeat about this, I think the talent in this first round is kind of weak, Like it's just it's not like that twenty sixteen draft. It's it's not. I just so I think you look at it. I think Quintin Nelson throw throw out the quarterbacks, because that's a crapshoot, Quentin Nelson, Derwin James, Barkley, se Quon Barkley, Bradley Chubb, and and probably Roquan Smith. Like I feel really good about those five players being very good pros.

I don't feel great about anybody else. He's making a point, though, If if he's that's one of our best five players, should we go get one of our best five players? Fortune favors the bold on my board, Derwin James is nine. Um God, we can't go there, Well we have to, we can't. We can't go to nine. Yeah, we can't. We go to nine. We jump up from We'll jump up to get in front of the you might have to get in front of the forty nine ers, so you might have to go up to eight. So it's

a raider. A raider Buddies were really a Raider Buddies buddy. They wanted Roquan. Who would you rather have, Derwin James or Quans Derwin James. I just think I think the world of him. Maybe it's I spend too much time hanging out with John Machoda, the Florida State fanboy. But I've got Roquan seven on my board and Derwin James nine, So I mean they're closed that you Roquan. Yeah, talking about this like it's going to happen, dream either either way.

But if you, if you, hey, if you guys now are willing to give up fifty to go get it, let's do this, all right, I mean seriously, put me in the one I got ten picks. When we did that show and we talked about trading up, I said I would I would use fifty to go up to get Roquan. I would do that. I would feel okay

with that, Derwin. But now you're looking at this draft, you're kind of thinking I would still do it, but with because the thing is, you have to make that trade before you know who's going to be there at nineteen. So there's a there's a realistic scenario Calvin really could be there at nineteen. There's also a realistic scenario he'll be long gone. You're kind of wiped out. So yeah, you go up and uh you you you know, fortune favors of bold, just get put the badasses on my team.

Let's do that. Well, you're gonna be good somewhere else. I promise you that. One more David. All Right, I'm throwing this out there just as an acknowledgement of all of our poor, sad, angry cowboy fans. Oh there's a lot of them. They had to watch, Folks, we get to draft though, they had to watch. Well, okay, well we get to draft, but draft, we just you're gonna just get I'm just gonna throw this out there. It's just we're just talking here. We're not just a question,

not speaking on behalf of any of Mike wants to know. Well, Mike, what you would realistically give up in a trade for Earl Thomas. We're allowed to talk about this. Yeah, We're just it's just three friends chatting here on a podcast, and we just you know, no official, not a listen. If we're gonna give up fifty to go get James, we're willing to go do that for all pro safe, for approven all Pro. Yes, No, we're gonna have to pay I was gonna say that that's part of the

equation too. Yeah, we might get a little wreck there. But because you don't, I don't think you make the ideal unless you know, like you feel ninety five percent sure you're getting a deal done. I would agree with that. Earl Thomas or Derwin James that I mean, yeah, that's we have to give it. We have to give you the best. If you had to give Earl Thomas is what twenty nine years old? Yeah, yeah, you know, he's he's an All Pro player, He's probably for Hall of Fame.

He's got anywhere from three to six more years left of being a good player. I would guess, you know, barring something unforeseen, Right, how many years we're gonna get? We get five, We get Derwin James for five years. Here's all right, I mean it's okay. Let's you wait. At least you get Derwin James for five years at a much smaller price, or you get Earl Thomas at a much larger price, but obviously the proven commodity Old Thomas, So you might get the proven commodity. But hey, every

player comes with a risk of busting. You have to acknowledge that. So there's no question. But I don't I don't think it's realistic to do a trade for Earl Thomas at the end of the day, because you have to have an assurance that you're gonna get that deal. And I don't think that they want to commit that type of money when they could go draft a guy. I know, like people listening at home probably don't want to hear that. Maybe that lord's asking for us though. Maybe.

But we notice Seattle doesn't have a second or a third round. Would you trade pick eighty one even if you don't feel great about a long term deal getting done? Yes, I would trade eighty one to go get him. If I didn't feel like yet, I would trade eighty one. Fifty fifty gets me Derwin, it gets me James. Eighty one I don't think gets me James. So yeah, you know what I'm saying. Sure, so I'm trying to think, Okay, which one gets plus? We have to factor rid in

this scenario. You're also keeping your first round pick, right, so your draft so it's you know, Derwin James, and that's your first two picks or Earl Thomas plus your first round to see that would give them They gives them back to back picks in the second round. Probably, I think Seattle's right ahead of you. They don't have a second round. Oh no, that's okay, I got rid of they don't have a second or a third. Right,

you're right, You're right, I'm sorry. That's that's why you're seeing all these rumors about them trying to shop players because they don't want to not pick in the you know though, I mean, the second and third round are so important. Yeah, I'm for I don't. I mean, hey, anything's possible, but I don't. I don't see it. I think it would be way more likely that they would do something crazy to get Derwin James. Then I think that's Stephen Jones mo myself. Yeah, I agree with that, David.

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I had from the combine. We didn't get to him on Tuesday, but tell me more about Alabama's Robert Foster. Get a lot of questions about him. I think kind of like Noah Brown. People are intrigued by the super talented guy who didn't really have that type of production at a big time school, five star recruit, wouldn't he Yep, yeah,

big time recruit. And you know, when we watch tape of him, it was a struggle because you're trying to find catches, You're trying to find opportunities where he was he was targeted and far and few between in that offense, and it's it's it makes me even more impressed that Calvin really had the production he did with that quarterback. But he had I think fifteen catches this year. We did. We blew the touchdown, We blew through some tape to

try and find him. I mean, I say this, I really love the kid from the aspect of the speed. I think he's got some smoothness to him though. You know, when you watch him run, I mean he's kind of a good of a bit of a glider, you know, and the way that thing. But and then you know they throw him the little touch pass, you know, and all that good good in the open field things like a lot of screens, a lot of screens, vertical routes

and screens. That's really his big, big game. But yeah, you know, I thought I saw a guy that really didn't trust his hands all that much though too, I know they the ball he'd jumped when he didn't have to. So his best trade is his ability to run. And that's kind of where if someone brings him in, it'll be on a trade, could be a draft late third day. But it's just because he's six one and he's one hundred and ninety six pounds and he runs a four

four one. There's no consistency, and I don't. I don't. I didn't see anything on tape that would make me believe that's going to change at the next level. I agree. I agree. Tell me more about Wisconsin linebacker slash edge rusher Leon Jacobs. I'll let you take this one. Brought us. I know he was that one. He was you and Jeff. You guys love this guy. Oh, no, Jeff hasn't seen him. I don't think. Oh yeah, he put him in the second round. Oh did he really? You guys watched him together?

Or did we watch Jacobs? Oh, we did watch him together. I'll tell you what, man, Jeff just falls in love with people. Though, no, he he Jeff, Jess, where'd you put him? Brought us? Put him in? I put him in the third, that's hi. I put him in the third. Sixty six pounds, four to four eight. I'll tell you what, man, This guy well built, players, got some upper body power, hustles to make stops, got a nose for the ball, attacks the pocket. They use him as a rusher, you know,

he plays out on the edge. So you say, every once in a while, you'll see him rush, you never see him really drop. Is he best in a three four? That's what's what's this team gonna do with him? I think he will playm with Sam is what they do, and they can. And the thing I like about him, I like how physical he is. I mean, that's I saw a guy again closed down the line, swats at the ball in the pocket when he's rushing, and he's

a hard guy to get around. When you try and get around him on the edge, he's able to stretch it and kind of make not kind of make the play and make the guy go out of balance or make a physical tackle right there. He's one of those guys when I didn't know anything about him going in the combine and then he runs a great time, and I'm now I'm like thinking, Okay, go back and look at these guys. But I'm thinking, Okay, give me the linebackers that are six one, two hundred and forty pounds,

you know, give me those types of guy. I know we're talking a lot about linebackers like Griffin that's two twenty seven. We talk about Smith that's two twenty five, two twenty six. I'm thinking, give me a little bit, bigger linebacker that can run. That's what I saw with this kid. And I think that I was kind of impressed with the way he played, balance, that he causes turnovers, He's got some change of direction to him. I didn't have a problem. And I watched good competition. I mean

I watched him play Michigan Ohio State Perdue. I mean he was having some good, good snaps against those cats. This guy kind of be like a Kyle Wilbur, like occasional sam special teams. I think, yeah, I think this to be one. I think this guy when I remember watching Kyle Wilbur's film at Wake Forest, Yeah, I didn't see Kyle Wilbur play like this. While Wilbur was kind of a switch they had hand down, stand up, they switched schemes on him. Kyle Wilber was drafted to play

in a three fourth yea anyway. But this guy, I'm kind of a I'm on board with this. Hint Leon Jacobs and an also kid, the the Avery Kid from Memphis. Yeah, Jenny, two guys that are over two hundred and forty pounds, you're just ruining future. Tell me more. Sorry, good God, sorry about that. I see a little more of a project with Jacobs. But I mean you I think you you covered him. That that sums. But you can disagree

with me on that. That's okay. No, I mean I don't have him in the third I have him more on day three. Um, but because I think he's just a little more of a project. But I mean he hit on a strength. I mean he's a physical player who who has some traits to work with. So yeah, it makes sense. Okay. Talked about some Louisiana players in the first segment. Tell me more about Grambling State running back Martez Carter. Fun player, really fun player. Undersize he's

got a little Treat co into him. You know he's not as Okay, let me draw you in with that. Not doesn't have the same ceiling as Treat Cohen. But he can help you out and respect that. He can do a little bit of everything. He can rush the ball, he can catch the ball at the backfield. He lied about wide at Grambling. Yeah, pass protection, he's he's a one pop daddy, but you know he can get the job done. He had like four kick returns in college, so he can help it lane where he just ripped

it right in the middle. Of the thing. He can help you out across the across the depth Chartum, you know, he's limited because he's not the biggest guy. He's like six two h five, not the biggest guy. But well, gunbar action. Yeah, I'll tell you what though, good player. This guy is a really good player. And I mean he is one of those guys that you watch him play and I appreciate Dane hooking me up with this guy.

Ball goes left and it's dead and all of a sudden it's plant left foot and now we're going around the right end and we are running through people. I mean, he's a physical guy. He's right about the one pop daddy bit, you know, with the with the past protection. But one of the best players I saw him. Mate. He hit again. He's not afraid to hit a defensive end. It's like a tennis ball going off a tank. You know,

he's just bouncing off. But that's what he does. He hit the guy and got kind of buckled, and then his quarterback was scrambling, kind of gave his quarterback an opportunity. But what do he do after he hit the guy? He went out in the route. They threw him the ball and he went like about thirty yards. So he has a presence about him, remember rolling to the right. Yeah, I'm just And I loved Lance Dunbar as a guy, and when he was healthy he was so much fun

to watch. But I just worry about it for four years watching Lance get hurt after every good play he made. I'm gonna go on record, this guy is better than Lance Dunbar. Ever thought is he healthy year? Oh yeah, he played. He played college. He's got a little bit of a background. Uh, he corner. What he's got, He's got all kinds of things going. In high school at five six, he was a quarterback. Yea, and okay, I'm

five six right, I'm just imagining myself playing quarterback. He also played basketball, and he was suspended for most of his senior year. Uh some academics, some eligibility issues. And he got a full ride to go play basketball and an Naia school can't remember the name of it, somewhere in Texas, goes there to play basketball. After a semester, he gives that up, goes back to home to Louisiana and gets hooked up with Grambly and he walks on as a corner. And he kept begging the coach, give

me offensive snap, give me offensive snaps. They finally do, and or they started him as like returning kicks. Then they put him on offense the next year and he kind of blew up from there. Led the league or led the team in rushing the last three seasons. Really fun player who's has a little bit of baggage, but it's kind of shaped where he's or how far he's come, and you know who he is today with what he's had to deal with in the past. How long ago

is the most recent baggage is it? It's not in college, it's from a kind of it's you know, the company that you keep. Yeah, you know growing up where he did, and you know his dad's been incarcerated for most of his life. Float up, load up the tape of this kid, Brian, Yeah, I want to You'll have fun watching him, all right. I want to make sure we get to this guy. I've got two more, but I want to make sure we get to this guy before we run out of time, because Dan, Brian and I are going to try to

set you up here. Oh great, I got a I got a request on Twitter from a nobody of nobody's and the guy basically was like, I want to see if Dan can get this guy, and I do too, So Brian watched him just in case you don't know, but I want to see if you got him. Tell me more about Buffalo State defensive tackle Khalil Somerville is his mom asked you this question. I don't know who is asking about him. I don't know who are you? Uh?

I do know who he is. He watched him. He played at the College Great Iron Showcase, damn in Addison. He's a fun He's you are sick in the best way possible. He can get a field a little bit. I mean he's not the not the most explosive, not the most powerful, but when he does get an edge, he can work past the shoulder and you know, play the one. He can played a little bit. One played one a little three. But it is Division three YEA. For the record, I did not tell Dane anything about this.

He didn't like, he didn't know this was coming. Buffalo State is D three. Yeah, you know the conference. Like I'm come from a Division three You're still I don't care if it's amazing. The film I watched was Hertwick College. Never I've never watched Hartwick College. They played a field. They played Hartwid players in the field. That's like football across most of those fools like that, Yeah, pick up in the background. There's like, no, it's not like it's

not like the Boud's house at Ali. Marpett went to school about the Hobart pet But yeah, yeah, there's probably like twenty five people in the stands. Though. He's got this guy, right, I mean this guy. I mean I saw like a one gap player when you know, when you right, when you watch him, he goes. I mean, he's like quick up the field. He's a he's got a square built guy. He does have I think a little bit more power than maybe but I think about him. No pass rush moves at all. It's all about pushing.

But he wears number ninety nine. Oh good, and and so he's just kind of like going up the field. He's ben be a bit disruptive guy. I noticed that the college grenar and showcase that he had some bad weight. Needs to strength and conditioning programs to do him some good. Um, but I don't think he's getting drafted. I'm gonna say draftable grade or Buffalo State, we'll bring him in. We'll bring him in as an undrafted guy. How about you

knowing about it? That's good. That was that's seriously impressive. Thank you. We have time for one more. Just go one more real quick. If we could tell me more about UCLA receiver Jordan. Lastly, speaking about guys at last, So you're not last or not least. Uh. This guy's really talented just from a physical standpoint, but he can't catch the ball with any consistency. That's true. But he's a very good athlete and he can create his own space get down the field, but he's so inconsistent at

the catch point. And then he's just he's got attitude issues. He was suspended this past year for three games just because he, you know, issues with the coaching staff. So there's plenty of issues in his background that you kind of you worry about with him. But he's he's a draftable player. He'll he will get drafted, and you kind of hope it works out for the best. He's not gonna win many fifty fifty balls. That's just his game. That's not his game. He needs free access and routes.

He doesn't need to be contested. You know, he's always gonna That's the thing I thought, up and down the way he catches the ball. I didn't feel like he was a reliable guy. That was the biggest problem I had in my report on him. A quote from his high school head coach. He's always kind of a three steps forward, two steps back kind of guy. So if your high school coach is saying that about, there you go. And the fun thing about tell me more is like

usually I mean, we got you got. I got two good reviews out of five, but the majority of the reviews are not usually glowing you know what. And then but but now people know when these guys get drafted. You've heard it for here first absolutely, but Kali Khalil Somerville, when he's a seventh round state remember that. Here you go. Thanks Dane, Thanks David, Thanks Garrison, Thanks everybody out there for hanging out with us this week. Uh we'll be back with the Draft Show Monday at ten am. Have

a great weekend and continue to watch that tape. We'll see you