Draft Show: Recapping The Class

review mirror of the NFL Draft. But C. D Lamb was the pick at seventy and we are still celebrating here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Draft Show one final show this twenty twenty season, Kyle Yoman's David Hellman, Jeff Cavanaugh back with us, Kevin Turner, Katie Down in the corner as well. Ceedee Lamb was the selection. The Cowboys did it. They did it best player available, they went BPA. It's still exciting to talk about. There was

the talk earlier about the number selection. I don't care about any of that kind of stuff on the side. I just care that Ceedee Lamb is a Dallas Cowboy's got a star on the side of his helmet, and it's fun to talk about because now we have endless options whenever it comes to Cede Lamb. And then, hey, the rest of the draft was pretty pretty great. Two guys,

you can't really complain about any of it. But Dave, now that we're a week into looking at how this draft class kind of evolved, what are your thoughts, at least at this very moment. I think I finally got past the point of thinking it was surreal. Like for two or three days there, I kept like having to

pinch myself to think if it really happened. Somebody actually, somebody tweeted me the other day and was like, you were more stressed out about the thought of Cede Lamb being available and the Cowboys not picking him than the thought of somebody drafting Cede Lamb. And I was like absolutely, like one hundred percent, because I did not want to have to try to sell that as a good decision to anyone, because it wouldn't have worked. And luckily the

Cowboys didn't make me do that. They drafted the best player available by a long shot, and we can go through the rest of the class. I mean, they got great value everywhere I think it's it's the most excited I've been about a draft class in the moment in my time covering the team easily easily and Jeff team or I guess Captain trade Down didn't get to ride over the course of the weekend, But I don't think it really mattered because Team forty Burgers here right. Are

you happy with that? There were very strong conflicting emotions inside of me. Is Captain trade Down with a finally crafted character over a long period of time, Kyle, But Captain trade Doown was willing to fall in a sword when Ceedee Lamb was available, and so Captain trade Down I should probably change the name in here because Captain

Traddown is no more. Captain Tradedown doesn't need to exist when Ceede Lamb's on the board at seventeen and Trayvon Diggs is on the board at fifty one, Captain Traddown doesn't need to ride. He just needs to He needs to back on into the distance. And next year, when the Cowboys are picking thirty second, maybe Captain trade Doown will be back. What's cat Captain trade Down as a

team player? What's Captain trade Doown? Like your way? Of protecting your feelings, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, same as you were doing. Yeah, Captain Traddown was my way of bailing out of the seventeenth pick that was aj Terrell or Trayvon Diggs. That that was my way out of that pick at seventeen. Where you know, the way you feel about it at fifty one is a whole lot different than the way you feel about at seventeen with somebody like Treyvon Digs. I was even scared. I

was scared of Chase On. Yeah, it's insane how much better I felt about Digs at fifty one as opposed to seventeen or even like twenty five. Like as a first round pick, I'm like, oh, I don't know, guys, And at pick fifty one, I'm like, this is the best pick that's ever been made. Well, we knew this draft would be like a little different than maybe drafts of the past because of everything going on in the world. But I walked away. This is probably Tuesday night, a

couple of nights ago. I was going out for a walk guttle exercise, right stang away from people, of course, and I went, I'm an idiot. I don't think I did a good job of talking up the scenarios here. I should have laid out more scenarios for it being possible that Ceedee Lamb is a Dallas Cowboy, because if you look at the top seventeen picks, there weren't many surprises. Maybe you want to say Andrew Thomas going forth, but I think people saw him going before the Cowboys picked

at seventeen. Maybe aj Terrell flying in it picked sixteen. It's not like there were a million surprises. Not all four quarterbacks went before the Cowboys picked at seventeen. I kind of went maybe I kind of got a little bit of regret in the way I talked about how possible will it be to get a guy that you like? It turns out it was extremely possible, and there weren't that many surprises. But overall, I feel great about the draft, But I for myself and to the draft show listeners

out there, I'd like to say I apologize. The CD Lamb thing should have been thrown up against the wall a few more times than it was, and so yeah, I feel bad about that. You know. I actually, oh, oh, we all got a lot to say. I love it.

Let's go, somebody go I think so, like you weren't alone in that because at seventeen it wasn't supposed to happen, and I think you're on it where aj Terrell was a part of the reason he was there, and Javon Kinlaw was a part of the reason he did because most people thought San Francisco, there goes a wide receiver and so there's CD. And then at sixteen a lot of people thought it would be either Ken Law or Chase On and then at seventeen, you have your pick

of those guys. And yeah, we probably didn't talk enough well you know what, No, we did though. We were saying the drum of if one of those top three receivers is there, I don't think they'll pick him, but they should and they should be open to that. So

I think we did that. But even the second round, because I know on Thursday nights, I made a video on my YouTube page where I was like, all right, let's talk about the second round, and I'd love to present a scenario where Christian Faulton or Treyvon Diggs can be the pick, but obviously that won't happen, so let's be realistic. And then they were both on the board, So you know, sometimes sometimes you just don't know the

way these things are going to play out. If I were running a simulation, which I did, you know, five hundred mod dress and the little simulators. If CD gets to seventeen, I restarted because I'm like, that's not realistic. If Treyvon Diggs is one, I restart because I'm like, that's not realistic. So you just take your gifts. Yeah, I actually, Oh, go ahead, Kyle, go for it, Dave.

I I agree with Kavanaugh completely. I mean, I don't think any of us thought Ceedee Lamb would be there, because I think we would all agree he was the best receiver in the class. I think the Cowboys thought that as well. He was number six on their board. I think he's a top ten consensus player. But we did talk a lot about the prospect of the Cowboys could be faced with a choice between a receiver who is the best possible player and a defender who really

meets what they feel like they need. Like I feel like it's set up really well where they might have had a choice between a receiver and Chason, or a receiver and Fulton or Digs or Terrell, whoever you want to say, we just didn't think it would be Ceedee Lamb, and I think that's actually fascinating. I was talking about this on Twitter yesterday. If the choice is between Rugs and As, I won't say Judy because I think they probably would have picked Judy. But if it's Henry Ruggs

and Chason, did they do the same thing. I don't know the answer. It's interesting to think about. I agree with that completely, and that's kind of where I was leading. Is the fact that it brought up that best player available debate. But if it would have been another wide receiver, would it have been a debate? Would it have still

been Chason and you have still gone with need? I think it was the fact that Cede Lamb was so highly elevated on their board, the fact that he was the number six overall player, he was number one on their board in terms of wide receivers, and he was number one on all four of our boards as a wide receiver. So the fact that he fell was surprising. But to Katie's original point, the fact that he fell

wasn't necessarily as uncommon as you would think. You see it every single year one of those top players ends up falling into your lap, especially right in the middle of that first round. There's so many different scenario the different players. I thought it would be one of those other quarterbacks. Maybe a team trades up to go get Jordan Love as the fourth quarterback in the top fifteen picks. I thought that would have been the thing to push it.

But I think it was the aj Terrell. I think it was the pick that the Raiders made selecting Henry Ruggs. Even the Jets going with an offensive tackle at eleven, I think contributed to the fact of Cede Lamb actually being able to fall in their lap. Now, with all of this this fun, you still got to find a place to put them on the depth chart, and right now it says, hey, he's your number three receiver. Right I want to bring up the question. You've got high,

sky high expectations. You've got two eleven hundred yard receivers on your roster already. Is it possible that Cede Lamb is that number two target instead of Michael Gallop and we'll throw Amari Cooper in there as well, it doesn't matter. Is there a chance he's the number two receiver on the Cowboys this season? I went on record of saying that, I think said a year from now, Ceedee Lamb is

going to be the number one receiver on the Cowboys. Wow, and going into this year, and yes, I get a twenty million dollar guy is on the other side, but I think Ceedee Lamb brings a level of consistency that Amari Cooper well, I think that that is where he will be and for this year. I think it's a great conversation in debate, but I don't have a strong opinion on it. I think all three of them are going to be on the field. The vast majority of

snaps and coverage dictates where the ball goes. But I think CD is going to do an incredible job of building trust with a quarterback because of his catch radius and what he does with the ball after So I would not be surprised at all if we refer to him as the number three going into the year and a few weeks in we're like, oh, just kidding, he's two or one. I mean, you you can call me a coward if you want to, but I just like, I don't see why you have to have a stance

on this. I looked this up yesterday. They were an eleven personnel sixty one percent of the time last year, and I bet that I'll go up this year, especially when you have a guy like Cede Lamb on the roster. Like so you're talking about sixty five percent of the snaps where all three are on the field, and I would assume maybe I'm wrong, but I would assume c

d is. You know, he's probably going to spend the majority of his time in the slot because I think he can do that the best between him and Cooper. So I mean like he'll be third. I guess in name just because you typically think of your slot receiver as the third receiver, but I just think of it

as all one big group. I don't really feel why you have to distinguish between the three of them, honestly, and if health is good for all three guys, I don't think it's crazy to say that you have three guys in your wide receiver group with the potential of having seventy to seventy five catches. That seems like a lot. And I know there's targets for Zeke. I know there's gonna be targets for Blake Jarwin, although I could see Jarwin having less of an impact in terms of total

number of catches than like witten Head. I think it's a lot to ask of a rookie wide receiver to come in and catch seventy balls. I'm not doing that, but I mean the upside here is outrageous. And the types of ways you can get all of these guys the ball, especially Cooper and Cede Lamb, the types of ways you can get them the ball, whether it's down the field or whether it's short screens. You know, there's so many things that you can do to kind of

get the passing game going now. And this is kind of why I'm glad that they weren't scared to pull the trigger on Cede Lamb, not only because of him, but just the offense did need another wide receiver. If we came out of this draft without Cede Lamb, let's say we've got Chase on and Digs, we would be going, well, who's our slot wide receiver? And maybe they addressed that position during the draft. But now my biggest question is Tyrn Smith's back and who's gonna win the left guard

and center and get all that figure out. But my questions are now about the offensive line, and they're not about any of the skill position players, and I think that's huge. And this day at Asia the NFL is you don't need to have questions about your skill position players. You needn't know what they can do and have confidence

in them. It's really crazy to me. And I think, you know, ninety five percent of people love the Lamb pick, but I you know, there have been some people that you know, they had they needed defense, they had to draft the pass rusher. They had to do this as if receiver was not a huge need. Like the depth chart behind Gallup and Cooper's terrifying. It's absolutely scary. And so people acting like this was a luxury pick, I think that's insane because you need three receivers in the

modern NFL. You need three good receivers preferably, So I never really understood that. And I mean, if you go back and look like, let's say they pick calevan Chase on your options at pick fifty one were Denzel Mims, which that'd be fun, and Van Jefferson and your if you wait until the third round, it was pretty much just Devin DuVernay or Bust. So I feel way better about getting CD Lamb and figuring out the defense later. And that's I mean, not a knock on Denzel Mems.

He's a good player, but I'd way rather have CD Lamb. Well, he's the top receiver on all of our boards. I think we would all rather have CD Lamb just because of the fact that he opens up such a possibility on that offensive side of things with Kellen Moore. And I'm excited to see what kind of influence Mike McCarthy has on this offense as well, because in Green Bay he used a lot of those two tight end sets. Now you don't necessarily have to use a two tight inset.

You can throw three receivers out there with Blake Jarwin and Ezekiel Elliott and have some fun at the skill positions. Now, before we take our first break, I do want to address the defensive side of the football, because that's what the Cowboys did in Day two. They took Treyvon Diggs at pick fifty one in the second round, the Ville Gallimore, the defensive tackle out of Oklahoma in the third. And where do these guys kind of fit in the rotation?

Is my biggest action when we're talking about the depth chart at receiver with Seedee Land thrown into the max. Where do these two guys fit because cornerback, you needed it to double dip a corner. They did that. They took Reggie Robinson the second in the fourth as well as Trayvon Diggs in the second. And then you also you add to that beefed up defensive line with Jerald McCoy Dantry Poe. Now you're throw Neville Gallimour in there. Where do you guys see this kind of playing out?

And where do you expect these rookies to land when it comes to the depth chart. I don't want to put unfair expectations on anybody because after the draft, I said, however, Treyvon Diggs ends up, he ends up, and you don't worry about it. And a year from now he'll be a starter because so many people's contracts will be up. But as of today, I'm buying the talk of Cheeto potentially getting a look at safety because every corner that they're bringing in looks the exact same. They're all six one,

two oh five. That is their corners. They got the long arms, Cheeto doesn't. I think that's the route they're going. So now I think Trayvon Diggs is going to come and he's gonna start. And I think that this team is going to play a lot of press and according to Pro Football Focus, Treymon Diggs was the best in the country at press man last year, So I think that it fits. It's really weird. I said this on

radio yesterday. They Will McClay was most excited by Mike McCarthy because he said, players over scheme will make the scheme fit around all the good players. But at corner, they're not doing that. At corner. They clearly have a plan that this is what we want you to look like, because this is what we're gonna do. And I'm okay with those two conflicting ideas somehow. So I think Diggs is gonna be a starter. I think Galimore is going to be Gerald McCoy's primary backup and play probably thirty

to forty of the snaps. I think Reggie Robinson will be a special team's demon. He blocked a kick every year at Tulsa, so I think he'll do that and potentially help you in the secondary as a rookie and hopefully be a starter a year from now. So I think they had a good draft that year from now man, what if be Odish is the starter. What if they're pulling five starters out of this draft. That would be absurd, it would be nice. I'm not that ready. I'm not

that ready to go there. I agree in theory with everything that you said. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheeto winds up at safety. But I also think you probably want to see these guys on the field. Like coaches don't like to say anything publicly, but it's pretty easy to recognize when a guy is ready and when he's not once you get on the field, especially from their standpoints. So if you know, if when they finally get on the field whenever, that is, if Diggs is just like

looks like the guy, I could see him starting. But I'm not ready to say that yet because I don't think they're ready to say that. I think you want to see how up to it he is. I wouldn't be surprised if he's like your utility cornerback. You know. Byron kind of started his career as the jack of all trades at everything. He did a little corner, he did a little safety, He played a lot of dime

and nickelback. I could see Trayvon doing that. If he's not ready to start right away, but I mean if he hits the ground running, yeah, let's crank it up. Let's go yeah yeah, And I'll I shall Hey want to commend them for the signing of Anthony Brown, which gets them a lot of leeway. And I know, you know, bringing in Darryl Whorley is gonna change things. And Maurice Kennedy, like they've done a lot of things. But I really love that Anthony Brown signing. Just to allow you to

have a little freedom to operate in the secondary. I'll move to the defensive line for this discussion. I think Tristan Hill is on the clock. I think if Triston Hill assuming and I'm making a bold assumption that training camp starts on time, you know, Triston Hill, you're promised nothing. And I think Neville Gallimore could come in when a job there at the Gainstwan Woods would still be on the roster. I think Neville Gallimore is a backup DT on this team right now, and Triston Hill is not me.

That's feels a little strange to say, baby, when one is a third round pick and what is the second round pick? But that's that's I think that's something that's a legit thing that's happening. I think you have a second round I mean, a third round player in Neville Gallimore will be a rotational He's your backup three tech dique you know, day one as the way I feel about that. And we'll say where Tyrone Crawford fits in

the mix. I'm sure they'll probably try to keep him a defensive end, but I'm not counting on him for anything, just because hip injuries are difficult. A ny is a rotational pass rusher and the likes of Dorian's Armstrong, but Canny give you more than Dorian's Armstrong. Did you know that's the type of thing you'll be looking at there. So that's my thoughts on the D line right there.

Tristan Hill is on the bubble in my opinion, well in Gallimore specifically, looking at that three technique side, it makes you look like you're really thin, and when it comes to nose tackle, you've got done. Trypo there and Gerald McCoy maybe could slide over and play that, but I think overall, nose tackle looks a little thin, So that rotation starts to kind of get crucial for the middle of that defensive line. But as fun as it is looking over, what was that, Katy? So we had

Antoine Woods? All right? So that's fair at the man they actually he has not signed as inclusive rights tender. I was gonna say, I mean, I think they're they're gonna there will be a nose tackle on the team that's not currently on it, whether that's Antoine or whether they get another guy. I think they'll probably sign a vet, you know, before they go to training camp. That's kind of the thought process around really a thin spot on that defensive line, even with the rotational purposes that you

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the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Start a lot, third and three and another to dicks and so when I come on recovery for a time last week, that's a tick sex this way up and rolls, says Cowboys second round pick Trey Von Diggs out of Alabama, providing quite the conversation when it comes to that corner spot. Heading into the twenty twenty season, Welcome back into the Dallas Cowboys Draft Show. Final draft show here of the season and until that bye week comes up later this Faull,

Kyle Yeoman's Katie. We've got Dave Helmet and Jeff cavanall here as well. Time now for some Twitter on the twenty on the Twitter and of course Twitter on the twenty and the entire Draft show brought to you by Miller Light, our great draft partners who had a lot of fun this past weekend, no doubt about it. But we're gonna start things off with a good buddy of ours,

especially a good buddy of kats. We've got Jeff skin Wait on Twitter, and he comes out and he says, this is a crucial question, by the way, and he says, when is a quote unquote safe amount of time to properly evaluate the success or failure of a team's particular draft. And I think this is especially important right now as we're extremely high on the entire draft class. We're extremely high after the past weekend. But when can we really

evaluate whether this is a thumbs up or a thumbs down? Guys, three years, I think three years is the generally accepted time frame. And I think that that's I think that that's right. I think once you get three years in the books, you'll know has the guy turned into a starter, yet as he quality starters and your rotation piece, I think after three years in the league, you'll have a pretty good handle on where these guys are unless he plays quarterback, and then the entire world will still debate

it forever. Yeah, good point, I think. I mean, it's definitely gonna take some time. I thought Will McClay had an awesome line when he was on with Jeff on one oh five three earlier this week when he was like, let's call it a well executed draft. We'll know if it was a home run when we're actually at the plate. I would even say probably, I would say two years, because you know, you even think about it. Byron Jones became an All Pro in his fourth year, which you know,

totally justifies the pick. It was a good pick, but it's a little disappointing that the Cowboys needed three or four years to get that type of production out of their first round pick. I think in this age of the NFL where you know, you know, quarterbacks used to sit for like two years before they played. Now they're they're in the starting lineup right from the jumper. So I think, I mean, if your guy's not control ttributing after two years, that's pretty disappointing. Not to say that

it can't work out. Byron Jones is proof of that. But two seasons is where I start to make my judgment, I think. So. I think everyone wants you to have like a super hot opinion here, but I'm gonna kind of ride in the middle. I think it also depends on what your franchise is doing a couple things. What's your franchise is draft history? Do you have a history of doing a pretty good job of the draft? Maybe I can, you know, cut you a little slack if you mess up one year, things like that, But too

like it's gonna be a little different. This Cowboys team is close. They added good players who can help them now. So I can judge this draft at three years from now, four years from now, five years from now. Sure think about it saying I'm not saying this because I follow them.

But if i'd the Packers that I'm close and went to the NFC Championship game and I'm mailed in a draft like they did last week, I think you can judge that draft the day after the draft ends, Like, I think you can judge that draft pretty harshly and say, oh, do you you're not? Are you not trying to help your team win now? And I don't realize there's a

Georgan Love elmet there. But like the whole point is, I think it depends eight there's a whole different different types of branches that you can have on this conversation. And if I'm gonna give a general safe answer, yeah, two or three years sure, But you know, I think id Bengals, there's there's if you're the Bengals, there's a little more urgency for you to nail a draft. So I'm gonna judge you immediately. Yeah, but I mean, you know, and not to go off the rails on a Packer tangent.

But like that team got a game away from the super Bowl with what they had. I know, like nobody is high on their draft. I don't really love it either, But maybe they're right about a lot of those guys and everybody else is wrong. I mean, two years from now, forget Jordan Love, Like two years from now, uh Daguia the tight end they drafted, and um Alan the running back out of Boston College. Like maybe those guys are total badasses. Who knows aj Dillon's gonna be a total badass.

Neither do I. Neither do I, but crazier things have happened. I'm just saying, I mean, you gotta at least give him. Like I said, I think rookie contracts are four years, so half of the life of the deal is when you can make a judgment on whether it was smart or not in my opinion, Okay, And it's really easy to judge a draft really early on. I mean, look

at Tristan Hill's pick in twenty eighteen. People were judging that halfway through the season because one he wasn't active, so you could fairly kind of talk about the fact that he wasn't playing and he was a healthy scratch

the majority of the time. But you're really quick to kind of tab that twenty eighteen draft as a failure with no first round pick, and then you have Tristan Hill, but you traded that first round pick for him Mary Cooper, who you're feeling pretty good about at the same time, so you kind of got to give it some time. I think I'm right around where Jeff and Dave are, where it's like two and a half three years where

you start to kind of see where things developed. Now This next question goes a little bit further into the draft and we go back to the seventh round. This comes from Dustin Lowmiller and he asked, realistically, could you see Ben Denucci competing for the backup quarterback job or is he strictly a third string or practice squad kind of guy. The expectation should probably be that he's that

he's a third stringer. That should be probably the realistic expectation for Cooper Rush, who's now been in the league for what three years, So that should be the expectation. But I don't think it's crazy that if he's consistently better than him in camp and he has a nice preseason, that he ends up being the backup quarterback. I don't think there's a whole bunch like there's not anything invested in Cooper Rush. If the guy plays better, I think he could take his job. Yeah, I think he could.

I just don't expect it to happen. And you know, Cooper Rush has what this is his fourth NFL season. I believe he's been doing this for a while. I yeah, my expectation is for Denucci, if he's really good, I think he would be your third quarterback. There's two extra roster spots. Now you get fifty five guys, so you can it's a little bit easier to carry that third quarterback if you want to, or maybe stash him on

the practice squad. I think Denucci would have to be an absolute baller to just outright take Cooper Rush's job, So I'm not counting on that, but it's not impossible. Yeah, I think Denucci would have to go full Romo in a preseason, you know, to do to take over Cooper Rush. It always felt to me like they were trying to make Cooper Rush would be the next Jason Garrett. So that's always was always what I kind of felt. But then you get a new head coach in there, a

head coach joke, Oh yeah it was. But well, yeah, look, we was a common denominator, low hanging fruit. Whatever. We'll talk about the Giants draft. We'll talk about the Giants draft in the next segment. Um. But uh, you know, a guy like but Bevin de Nucci's getting ties to Mike McCarthy, he's gonna have a little bit of a little bit of an advantage. Yeah. I think what's interesting about backup quarterback is, hey, I generally don't care about it too much because I don't I'm not counting on

my quarterback getting hurt. B I would say that it's a situation where again, the pandemic is going to change a lot about how we think about this football team. Like, what if they shorten up preseason, there's only two preseason games, that's gonna hurt Ben Denucci's chance of making an impression,

I would imagine. Okay, And kind of going off of that, our next question from Matt White sticks with the quarterback in the backup quarterback conversation, and I think it kind of adds to what Kat just mentioned with the fact

of the pandemic coming into it. But Matt White asked Bingles releasing Andy Dalton, would he be a good pickup as a backup for Debt if he's making peanuts and he's gonna sign for basically nothing, like I'd love to have Jameis Winston on the deal with the Saints got him, But I think that's a different opportunity because I think Jamis is out there auditioning to be the next quarterback of the Saints, and I don't think that's what's happening.

If somebody comes in here. Yeah, Yeah, if it's cheap and you can upgrade the backup quarterback slot and that guy's happy being a backup quarterback and knowing that that's what his job is, come on with it. Yeah, I mean I think would be okay with that. Though if he signs, he would. I don't think he would sign here thinking he's gonna take Dak Prescott's job. If he does, he's a delusional guy, and that's a weird thing to have in my backup quarterbacks. So maybe I don't need that. Yeah,

I mean, you're not gonna get the Winston deal. That's insane, like way to go Saints. I don't. I mean, that's that's one in a million. But I would sign. I would be interested in signing Dalton even for like cheap for quarterback standards, you know, like if Andy Dalton wanted to sign here for like somewhere between I don't know, ten and twenty million, I don't know exactly what the ballpark would be, but like on a short deal or a one year deal, I would do it. It doesn't

seem like they're using that extra cap space anyway. He's you know, he's started a lot of games in the league. He's taken him to the playoffs. He went to college in the DFW area. He knows the area. I believe he's got a house here. I would I would love that. I don't get the feeling that they would do it, and I'd be curious what his price would be, but I would definitely do it under the right circumstances. I

think it would be great. I would say that he's way down on my call list of guys that I would be calling about trying to woo in for a one year deal, because ever since Griffin and Jadeveon Clowney, I'd still be making those calls on the one year deal situation, guys who are clearly not gonna make what they thought they were gonna make in the market. It's only gonna get worse because the economy of the league

is going to change just a little bit slightly. And if I'm Any Dalton, I'm trying to see if New England's gonna have me in for a year, or I'm trying to see if Jacksonville is not fully committed to rolling out with Gardner Minshew. If I'm Andy Dalton, I'm I'm still trying to start somewhere. Not that I think he can do that, but I would still be looking there first. But look, yeah, he wants to come in

and work for four million dollars or something. Yeah, I'm okay with that as long as I've exhausted all other options. And by that I mean calling Jadeveon Clowney and Everson Griffin. Hey, guys, one year, let's go make a run. Come on in. So with the backup quarterback spot. And I know, Katie you just mentioned a little bit ago. Normally you don't really talk about it, but with the current DAK situation, the current pandemic situation right now, if it were today,

who would you feel more comfortable with? Cooper Rush, Ben Denucci or even Clayton Thorson thrown in there as well. Oh none of the above. Yeah, I mean, so you're saying outside higher here. Yeah. Oh no, I'm saying that. I'm saying that my cornerback is a tank who never gets hurt. That's I mean, I'm not worried about it. Dak. He got hurt, he got hurt. He's gonna take anymore. We can't do that. He banged up his shoulder a little bit. It's fine, he couldn't throw. He's twenty, he

couldn't throw for two weeks. Do you think that they're going to do you think they're gonna make a real move, Like, do you think they're gonna sign Dalton or anybody? I don't, but I think they might be wise too, because I think, oh, the idea that guys are indestructible is cool until they're not. And Dak is all he's not. Nobody's indestructible, and you'll

find it out eventually. And they probably would have been better with better off with Cooper Russian that Eagles game, if they could redo it all over again because your quarterback couldn't throw. I don't disagree with you, I like I just think it's it's gonna be the guys that are here, and that doesn't make anybody feel good. But I'm gonna roll. I'm just gonna roll and say, well, I hope my guys as durable as he's proven to

be for most of his career. Now, yeah, go for it, go ahead, Kyle, No, no, no, we're getting need to get moving. You're right. So final question here on Twitter on the twenty and this comes from Steven Baird and Baird asked, He said, what do you project as the biggest positions of need for next year's draft? Now this is way looking ahead, I understand, but he said he wants to know because he wants some positions and players to watch for the upcoming collegian season, assuming that it

ends up happening. Who are some of those different or what are some of those different positions of need that you think the Cowboys could draft next year? Linebackers, safety, defensive line. I would say, oh, go ahead, Kate, go ahead, Dave No, No, go ahead. Well, cornerback. Cornerback is still gonna be a thing because Cheeto and Jordan are going to be gone, So cornerback will still be a position

that you look to Phil. I agree Dvid's line. I think, depending on what happens with jar One, tight end could be something that they consider as well. But yeah, I think Jeff kind of named him right there. We've been talked about safety for years. Yeah, I mean, oh, sorry, go for it, Dave No, that's a good point. Um. I just and I look, I mean, he's had and

he's missed games four years in a row. I understand the durability concerns with Tyrn Smith, but I don't have any indication as of now to think that he's going to stop playing in the next two to three years. So yeah, I think that's that's definitely something they should look at. And again kind of like what we talked about this year is like, you know, if the right guys there or if there's a you know, Sadiq Charles is a guy that I would have loved if they

had drafted this year. If it had fallen that way, it didn't work out for me. It's edge rusher, you know, And I'm I totally am on board with not drafting Chase On. I think Lamb was the right call. But you know, we all have high hopes for Bradley and I but I don't. You don't bank on that. You

don't bank on Jalen Jelks and Doriance Armstrong. Alden Smith is on a one year dal also is not technically part of the team right now, So that's I mean, if you're talking, and for that matter, Tyrone Crawford, who we talked so much about, his deal is up at the end of the season as well. So for me, that is the that is the bright red trouble spot that I've got to come out of next year's draft

with a playmaker at that position. I've got five names to add to the back half of this question because I was bored the other day and I kind of wanted to see who we would be looking at in terms of a team. So I've got five names written down. First one is Alex Leatherwood, tackle out of Alabama, left tackle. It was kind of what I alluded to a little bit earlier. He's one of those potential top ten picks. Now. I do not expect the Cowboys, nor do I want the Cowboys to be in the top ten, but he's

at least one of those top prospects. Same thing with Sam Cosme, I believe is how you say his name from Texas. Another guy who played right tackle, but he may even make the switch to left tackle coming up this season. Richard Lecant I believe, safety out of Georgia fifty tackles per season on average the last three years with the Bulldogs. He's somebody to look out for. Michael Parsons linebacker from Penn State, and Lebrian Ray defensive end

and defensive tackle for Alabama. He could play inside and outside, had a leg injury leg issue last year, but he's six five, two hundred ninety two pounds and I think he's gonna have a breakout year this year for the Crimson Tide. So I wanted to throw some names out there that is going to do it for Twitter on the twenty though, when we come back, we're going to debate whether or not the Cowboys really did have the

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dot Com Draft Show this season. It's a little bit sad that the draft is now in the rear view mirror, but it's happy because, hey, the draft was well executed, in the words of Will McClay, and we have a lot to talk about moving forward into this twenty twenty season. But we've also got a lot to talk about when it comes to the NFC East and the drafts that

were had by our divisional rivals. When it comes to the Eagles, the Giants, and the Redskins, Kyle Yeoman's Katie, David Hellman, and the great Jeff Kavanaugh here for the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Let's start with the Eagles. They had an interesting draft and they were very angry at the beginning of it. Should they be angry though

when it comes to Eagles fans. Whenever you look at guys like Jalen Jalen Hurts, Cabon Wallace, Prince Tega, Winago in the sixth round, by the way, a couple guys in there scattered throughout that can make an impact. What do you guys overall think about what the Philadelphia Eagles did in the draft. I think Eagle fans are gonna do what Eagle fans do, which is being mad at stuff, because it's kind of what they do, and I think it's kind of dumb. I think the Eagles had a

draft that makes a ton of sense. For instance, I think that if you have a quarterback let's say, miss four games in a year, I think you have a better chance to win those games with Jalen Hurts than you do with Jordan Love. So they used a pick that was more than thirty picks later for a guy

that I think can help you win tomorrow. If your quarterback gets hurt because he's willing to use his legs and carry the ball ten to fifteen times a game, you can simplify a game plan that can help you win, and your quarterback has shown that you somebody like that on your roster. So quarterbacks are so valuable if they ever have to touch the field. The odds are Jalen Hurts is going to have to touch the field, which makes him more valuable than anybody else you were going

to pick in the second round. And I think everybody got mad about the Jalen Ragar pick because everybody just reads mock drafts. Everybody reads mock drafts, and they kept seeing Justin Jefferson, and so people got excited about that. Ragor was my fourth wide receiver on my board. Jefferson was my sixth, So I think they made a good decision. But I think a lot of fans not everybody has the time or the want to or the access to

study the players on their own. So I think a lot of people were getting excited about a certain name and he was available and they didn't pick him, and so they assumed the other guy's not good at football. And I had Ragor rated hire as a prospect than Jefferson, So I don't think anybody in the East had a bad draft. I think dave On Taylor, the linebacker round a Colorado in the third and Cavan Wallace in the fourth are good picks at good value. John Hidetower the

Boys receiver, and the fifth is good value. The Eagles, I think had a fine draft. You know, if you're a letter grad knit, I think that's a bat B pus something like that. And I know they're they're just getting killed because they picked a quarterback. Your team needs to care about backup quarterback. Your quarterback gets hurt. Not only that, but and I keep saying this, like the more I think about the Hurts pick, the more I like it. To be honest, Like, I don't understand how

Eagle fans have so little trust in Howie Roseman. Like the guy put together a super Bowl winning team. He's done so much smart stuff. He traded up to get you wins. He makes deals during draft weekend all the time to improve the roster. By the way, they went and got m Marquise Goodwin during the draft, which helps them in the short term. Smart. But then you have a creative coach like Doug Peterson. Jalen Hurts can be

insurance for Carson Wentz. But on top of that, he can do like Jeff said, he can do stuff as a runner. He could probably do a little you know, nothing crazy but a little bit of receiver work, some read option stuff. I think it's really smart. And then on day three they just threw numbers at their problems, Like they drafted two receivers, they drafted two line two

linebacker type players, they drafted two offensive linemen. If even like two of those guys hit, Like let's say, if John high Tower hits and Jalen Rager is a good player, then your receiver corps looks pretty good for the foreseeable futures. So they're getting killed right now, and I won't be

surprised if they look really smart in eighteen months. Well, they have a type, don't they Raiger, John high Tower, Quez Watkins, who's more of a you know, fringe roster player right now, If they have a type speed guys, and they'll all mix in. They've already gotten you know, de Sean Jackson on the team who can still run a little bit. And then training for you know, markis good one night, as you said, yeah, really it's just

Archaga Whitesides. They're only kind of like slower types. They're trying to get fast, and I like when NFL teams in this day age try to get fast. I think that's an important thing to do. So now I thought they a fine draft. Again, you know, with mean Jalen Hurts. It's not what I would have done there. I understand the rational behind the pick, but I was probably lower on Hurts than maybe a lot of other people. But yes, they did have to, you know, approach backup quarterback. There's

no denying that at all. It's just can you get by with Nate Subfield or Kyle let letta. They obviously feel like they don't. But that's where Andy Dalton has become available and things like that. If you wanted to go that route, you know, I would have probably got something, you know, in the second round that they could help in another area when you're looking at their defensive line. They did so good in free agency as well, getting Javon Hargrave to play right next to Fletcher Cox. That's

just really good work. So I the Eagles are gonna be tough. I still think the Cowboys are the favorite to win the division, but the Eagles are gonna be tough. I think Howard Roseman is one of like five gms where if he does something I just implicitly trust that it's probably smart. Like not everything that they do is

going to work out. But his track record since he got the job back from Chip Kelly is pretty damn good, So I don't get why everybody's hating well going off of that, do you guys want to go to the opposite side of that spectrum and go look at the New York Giants and see what they did in their draft or where were we going out with that? Because you've got Andrew Thomas, Xavier McKinney, Darnay Holmes. Those are all great names. But was the value correct for each

one of those picks? Probably? I think the Andrew Thomas pick is the interesting one because a lot of people didn't have him as their top offensive tackle, but I think I can see how a team would trust him the most out of all the offensive tackles. You're a four year starter at Georgia that just kept getting better. And Xavier McKinney at number thirty six overall, I think that's right about where he should have gone. It could

have seen him going just a little bit earlier. I don't love the rest of their draft, but I think they picked two guys they're gonna be rock solid starters for at least four years. On their team. So I won't kill the Giants draft either. Again, I don't think there was a bad draft in the East. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, who knows how much influence Jason Garrett has at this point in his Giant's career. But

I don't know. Andrew Thomas just feels like such a Jason Garrett pick, Like I get steady four year starter Jason, Like, I can just imagine Jason Garrett being like, uh, we're really gonna gamble on somebody's upside when we've seen this guy just kick ass in the SEC for four years. So you know, maybe somebody, maybe another tackle in this draft class has a better career. But I bet Andrew Thomas starts and plays well for a long time in

the NFL. And I mean, I hate the McKinney pick because the Giants made it, but I like that pick a lot. I mean, that's right where they got Landon Collins out of the same school a couple of years ago. That worked out pretty well. I don't know if Davier McKinney's as good as Landing Collins, but that value for that players great. I'm with Jeff, I don't I don't have a strong opinion about the rest of these picks. I don't know if part from Yukon is gonna be

anything crazy, but those first two picks seem seemed pretty nice. Well. They have some older guys in the offensive line. Kevin Zeitler, the former Brown's gray is getting older, Nate Solder is getting older. Matt Peart the third round. That's excellent value. I liked Timbelbott, the Connecticut offensive tackle Shane Lemieu in the fifth round. To me, like those are your Solder and those are your Zeitler replacements, Like you're already gearing

up for one of these teams. It's it's more a building for the future type draft in terms of how they dealt with the offensive line a little bit. Obviously, Zavian McKinnell come in and likely start. And I like what the Giants have done too. They added some help on defense. They signed Kyler Fackrel, who can help off the edge a little bit as a pass rusher. He'll probably start for them, I know, would play and at three to four, and sometimes you can play a little

coverage as a linebacker as well. And then you know, they signed Blake Martinez as wealth and the packers to play in the middle. But you're like, they want to run the ball and they want to protect their quarterback who got killed last year. So those are two ways to start working on that draft off It's mind I'd always agree with like their direction. I would have probably tried to add something to that wide receiver corps. Like they're they're asking a lot out of Corey Coleman right

now going into this year. But you look at what they got last year. Golden Taint, it's gonna give you what he gives you if he could stay healthy. Stirling Shephard got hurt a little bit last year, but if he could stay healthy, we know he's solid. And then Darius Slayton had a great year, like he's got, you know, wide receiver number two upsides. They got three guys who have this kind of like upside to kind of be like a number two type wide receiver. You know, they

didn't get that number one wide receiver type man. Offensive tackle is a dire need. They they did not want to start Cameron Fleming at left tackle this year, and like Daniel Jones get killed again, they just can't do that. That's problems the needs whenever it comes to go for Dane, I'll go ahead, who he's got the worst receiver corps between the Redskins and the Giants, because obviously the Eagles

and the Cowboys are both I think better than those two. Yeah, Redskins second wide receivers, you know, either Kelvin Harman or Trey Quinn from smbun Yeah, I think I think I give the Giants the nod over the Washington That's not a super inspiring group over there, Yeah, just barely though, Like it's a it's not a convincing win in terms of the wide receiving corps. But what I was gonna

say was just in terms of the offensive line. I mean, three of their first five picks when you're talking about the Giants were from that offensive line side of things. Matthew Partt in that third round, like Katam mentioned, its Jane Lemieux I mentioned this on the draft coverage, but going into the twenty nineteen drafts or college football season rather, he was heralded as one of the maybe first round

second round locks in the offensive line. Didn't have a great twenty nineteen and so he fell all the way to the fifth. But I still think that's a magnificent value and a guy who's a little bit of a project but could fill in and be an admirable starter for a long time. Now you mentioned the Redskins there, Dave, Chase Young, Antonio Gibson should eat carl Or Charles. Excuse me a couple of their overall I guess highlights from the draft. What are we thinking with having to face

Chase Young twice a year? That's not necessarily what you want. But they did go out and get Antonio Gaine the Golden from Liberty to try and beef up that wide receiver corps. What do we think about Washington's draft? I think, I mean, honestly, top to bottom, it's probably my least favorite group from rounds one to seven, but it has the best player in the draft, so they get credit for that. And I mean drafting Chase Young is a

no brainer, but they still got him. He's still going to be rushing the passer for at least five years, so that's a win in my book. But then I don't know. Antonio Gibson picks sixty six scenes a little early. I love Sadiq Charles as a player, but he comes with off field concerns that you have to take seriously. Um, you know he only played half of last season for LSU. I wonder if he can stay on the straight and narrow with the Redskins. So I mean, you know your

your top three picks. You know they oh they didn't have a second because of their trade last year for months as a sweat. So your top three picks, you might only have Chase Young as your pure thing. So I don't love that, but again, Chase Young is a pretty nice thing to have. Go ahead, Jeff, I wasna say three of their four top picks carry pretty large elements of risk. Antonio Gibson, how are you going to use him? Is he playing receivers? He playing running back?

Is your offensive staff equipped to use him properly? And was sixty six too early? Sadiq Charles Um all of the things that Dave is talking about. Is he going to be able to just show up and be a pro. Maybe you got a steal, Maybe you got somebody who's not gonna make it, and only a Gandy Golden who I liked his tape. But the forty time at the Combine and then the fact that you played at Liberty,

like there's an element of risk there. So the Redskins, to me, are the biggest wild card where they might have hit a home run with their first four picks, and they might have whipped on three of the four. They're weird, right, Like, are they gonna run Adrian Peterson back out there again? And obviously they'd like Darius guys to get healthy, and you know there's a lot going on with their training staff and his health. You know. Terry McLaren though, had a great year. McLaurin, sorry, And

I think what I would say about Antonio Gibson. I know he's a different build, a little bit bigger, but he's a guy I think who they might be looking to play that kind of Chris Thompson role that was so excellent for them, you know years ago. He's a guy that no matter what, they're gonna find a way to get the ball to him ten to fifteen times a game. They're gonna hand it to a few times, but they're gonna throw it to him probably seven times. So I wonder if that's kind of what the role

they're looking for for him. You know, nothing i'd say about their draft when you look at what they did after Chase Young Snake Charles in the fourth round. Could could come start for that. You know, they traded Trent Williams away. He could come start to gain it. He might have to. And also Keith this mel is a good player. Like Keith this Mel is a center that I thought the Cowboys might want to be interested in. And I like be aish better than that. But Keith

this Mel is a good player. Like they got some pretty good value late in the draft when I looked up and down their board. But yeah, again, you know, you go, what's gonna happen with Antonio Gibson? Was that too early? I don't know, depending on how they utilize him. He was dangerous. He's got some great highlights. He's got some really good tape playing in the slot mostly at Memphis. He was very fun to watch. But yeah, sixty six is maybe a little rich for me. So I think

that's gonna be the key. They definitely need a little more offensive firepower. They'll find out if he can kind of give that to them immediately or and I just I can't help but think they're gonna run out and Peters again and play slow ball on offense. That's just not the way you win. Win by playing slow on offense, the ageless one. I'll tell you. I'll tell you one thing either. Like me as a Cowboys beat writer, this this will be my eighth season covering the team and

going to the games. I think of Washington as like the least juicy divisional rivalry for obvious reasons, like it's been the longest since they've been good. They almost never beat the Cowboys, Like I think, you know, the Cowboys record against him is like they win like eighty five percent of the meetings since since like twenty ten. But Cowboys OZ line verse Redskins D line. It's gonna be some mussy TV. Like you add Chase Young to what was already a pretty sturdy group. They traded up for

Montez Sweat last year. They've got the two Bama guys, Jonathan Allen and Ron Payne, and then hopefully they keep Ryan Carrigan around because he's one of the most underrated players in the league. As far as I'm concerned, that is just scintillating stuff to watch if you're into line play. I can't wait to see that next year. It's definitely gonna be much watched TV. But before we get out

of here, way too early. Are the Cowboys the favorite of the division after the draft and the undrafted free agents that they added, Yes, I'll say, I say, I say no, I say, you got to prove it. The Eagles won the division with an incredibly depleted team last year. I will probably pick the Cowboys to win the division because I believe that your record in one score games evens out year to year. I believe that they're gonna win ten or eleven games, but they should not be

the favorite. The Eagles have built that d line even better, They've addressed their secondary, and they beat you last year with the walking wounded roster. So no, you gotta earn it. I like it. Yeah, I agree with that. I think it's I think it's you can call it a toss up, like it should come down to those two teams. It'll you know, it'll probably come down to whether or not you can win at the Link, just like it did last year. I yeah, on paper, i'd give Philly a

slight nod. Go earn it, Cowboys. You were supposed to be better last year and you disappointed, So go prove why we're wrong. It's an even number a year twenty twenty Cowboys are your favorite to win the division. Hey, it's been a while since you've had back to back winners, so why not the Cowboys. Let's throw that in there. But got a long list of people to think Specifically, we'll start things off with Millerlite. Thank you Miller Lte

for once again being an incredible, incredible draft partner. Papa John's out there as well, Dunkin Donuts for providing donuts throughout the course of the year. But specifically, it's been an incredible year of the Draft Show for guys like Derek Eagleton, Nick Eatman, Scott Purcell, Bucky Brooks, Chris Beam, Matt Kent, Kaden Gates, Aaron Gonzalez, Alex Lily, Brian broad Us, Dane Brugler, and then you three. Thank you guys so much.

It's been fun for you guys, or just to be in the same conversation as you three, both Katie and Jeff I've listened to you guys for years talk about the draft, and then Dave of course all of your great work with the with the Cowboys. Overall, it's been a blast for me this season on The Draft Show and I can't wait to do it again. Great job, Kyle, was great having you on good edition. Love doing this show with y'all. Uh yeah, successful. And we'll just go

ahead and take credit for the lamp pick too. Yeah, I love you. Yeah. We willed that to happen, right, yeahah, we made that happen. We'll do it again next year. Getting you ready for the thirty second pick in the draft. Oh yeah, wouldn't that be great? That would be great. I hope yeah, I hope that's true. We would if they picked thirty second, we might not start the draft show until like late February. If that's the case. Cowboys select DeVante Smith, Alabama wide receiver fourteen. I like it,

Team fifty Burger, Okay, I like it. So we've got to start that trending between now and next April as well. But for everybody I just mentioned, that has been the final edition of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show until the bye week of this twenty twenty football season. Stay safe, stay indoors so we can have a twenty twenty football season. And thank you all. They're all out

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