Draft Show: Pro Days; Quarterback @ 4?

and then we educate. I always like to say that, I know because one of my favorite things to do. I know, So we do. Welcome everybody in forty eight days until we get to talk about all this stuff for real. And just when you think you have time to look at a guy or two more, you really don't have time to look. We got Pro days going in full swing right now. Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State all completed this week, scouts all over the country feels I mean,

it still feels like we've just got back from Indy. Yeah, I mean, like three or four of the biggest Pro days of the year already happened or in Ohio States. Case is happening right now. That is the truth. So with all that I do welcome Dane Brugler from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com, veteran of the Draft show, war room guy in all rights. David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, trying very hard to learn how to be a scout. I'm doing my best, doing his best. Garrison,

executive producer of the show. Today, He's going to handle our calls that we're going to take later in the day at eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. You could see it on the screen right there. Once again, very grateful to have the new camera, angles, the graphics, things that we can plug in to make this show better and more enjoyable for the fans. We encourage the fans to participate. We're gonna have Twitter on the twenty today and then I also want to take

some of your calls. We have free agency as as we've talked about, or as everybody knows going through right now. Might jump into that a little bit today, but first I want to get into these pro days. And and Dane and Dave your impressions. We were watching Ohio State a little bit today. Alabama was yesterday Clemson talk about really, what are these scouts in the final final stretch? What are the scouts trying to get out of all these

pro days? I think, first off, it's interesting to see which teams are present at the pro days and who do they send. For example, Louisville had their pro Day, what teams were there? Did they send their defensive line coach? Did they just send a scout? And that part's interesting. They kind of trying to see if these teams would give a tell about who they're looking at. But it's pro day like Ohio State, you know, good luck because with the amount of prospects they have their point. It

was basically a marathon today. Over there in Columbus Um they have a notorious fast track so downhill runners exactly, and Braxton Miller ran a four three. All of these scouts add probably a tenth of a second, sure, maybe a little bit more to these times. So I want to get too excited. I think what we're seeing with these pro day so far, a lot of the top prospects are resting on their times from the combine and

they're just doing positional workout. And that's Dave one of the reasons why these guys do work out at the combine. If you get a guy that can fly a little bit or has a good workout, you know, maybe hey, all I have to do is show up and do some positional drills for these coaches. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of Blackjack, Like, you know, you get a seventeen or eighteen, You're like, no, I'm good. No, maybe hit like a fifteen. You're like, all right, I'll go,

I'll run it pro day. Braxton Miller ran today. It's kind of we we made a big deal about how disappointing it was combine. He got he got under four four today, Right, it is a fast track. But still, I mean that that's impressive. And on the opposite side of things, Derrick Henry had a great combine and pretty much opted out of everything Atabama's on Wednesday, But he dropped my pen. He did he did pass catching drills right at Alabama just to kind of give people a

look at that. Yeah, I think it's really and I think Dane makes a great point. This is an opportunity for these teams to send coaches and there maybe not so much the scouts. Scouts go in there and collect the numbers. That's really the most important thing. In fact, you do have a player too that didn't have a good time. Maybe you want to get a better time. Maybe a guy you felt like was going to do more reps on the bench. It looked like Bosa today

improved his numbers. You know, maybe not as strict the scouts are. They pay attention, but at the combine, I mean it's a lock in, you know, I mean it's it's maybe at the workout you get a little bit of a bounce, a little bit of it, you know, you get a few more reps. So those numbers always improved. But scouts they're getting the numbers. Teams will send the coaches.

Like you say, now, earlier in the week, Noah Spence didn't have many people going to work out or go to his workout, And I think there's a reason for that. Noah Spence did everything at the combine. There's some teams that will not send scouts and coaches if they felt like that everybody that they were satisfied with the workout. Again, the advantage of working So don't read into that too much that people are thinking any less of Noah Spence. Right, Hey,

if the scouts feel like and there's a determination. We used to have meetings about this. We used to talk about, Okay, how do we feel about this guy? Do we feel player X? We feel good? Yes, we don't need to do anything with him. So that's something don't don't always read into that. And Spence is the type of dude where the team likes him. Yes, they're going to bring him in for a visit one of the thirties right, right.

And so because he's the type of guy that you want to get to know, you want to sit him down, talk with him. Yes, you want to see him work out, but you want to get to know him as a person. Right. So yeah, I would not read into that too much at all. Yeah. I think it's good though when they like you say, you have an Ohio State Day and you have one hundred and thirty NFL coaches scouts working out there. I think that's a good thing. And Ohio State does a great job with the workouts. So there's

a lot of teams. You know, Florida State has always traditionally done a good job. You know, Alabama has had a nice pro day, but spread all about the spread. Yeah that scouts love the spread anything free. You know, count me in on that. Yeah, gave me three. But you know, I just feel like this is the kind of the final little piece of the puzzle. We've got the combine, we've got the medicals, we're getting the final numbers.

Now we're gonna start building these draft boards and you know, and you're getting that all together, and that's a good thing. I want to get into some good news. If you're a Miles Jack fan, you know, March fifteenth, we talk about pro days. Miles Jack did not work out at the combine, took the opportunity to stand up in front of all of us talk about his plan. He's been he's been looking at March fifteenth as that day he got clearance. Looked like he got clearance for contact drills

from the UCLA doctors. Now, though, it's about going out and working out. What do you think a kind of day, What do you think we might see from Miles Jack? It's a projection, right maybe if sometimes Tuesday, yeah, yeah, Tuesday, March fifteenth. Where what do you think you're gonna see from Miles Jack's crossing my fingers that everything goes well. First and foremost, you want to see him be healthy.

You want to see him go out there and you know, give it everything he has and look one hundred percent. I think that's the biggest worry right now. There were some teams that came away from the combine with question marks about the knee, about the name. Its just a long term stability as their cartilage issues you have to

worry about long term. But so for Jack, all he can do is go to the Pro day and be the athletic freak dad he is put up these numbers and then go to the medical rechecks in April and hopefully gets two thumbs up. And if all that happens, Miles Jack is a top ten pick that we've been talking about that the tape shows. But there's a lot of steps to this process, a few more extra steps for him than some of these other players. Yeah day

if you know in Dane's right about Miles Jack. Though, as far as a player is talking to people around here, even though that they traffed Rolando, McClain still getting a little bit of a vibe that Miles Jack could be in play for a Dallas set four. We got a lot of questions when Rolando signed on Wednesday that that I guess Jack's off the boarder. I don't get that at all. I'll get that at all either. I mean it's the you draft a quarterback to sit behind Tony Romo.

I mean that's I mean, you're talking about a guy who you would expect to be the best linebacker in your defense for the next at least five, if not hopefully eight to twelve years. So as much as you hate to say Shaun Lee, you hope he plays sixteen years, Absolutely, and just absolutely, you're taking the best player at four for the long term, not just for Tilda. And then I mean, Sean Lee gets hurt next year, he can play Will Rolando McClain, he can play Mike. Yeah, he

can play Sam. He can play safety probably. I mean, uh, and Rolando's on a one year deal. I don't care at all that that Jack might have to have a limited or a different role as a rookie. I don't think that would stop them at all. Okay, I promise people on Twitter that I wouldn't we wouldn't just focus on the ones. But I want to ask you guys some more questions about some of these guys. We'll play a game a little bit later. Well, it's not a game, it's a it's a it's an exercise. We'll get into

the Yeah, we'll get into the obscure. Yeah, I want to We're gonna we're gonna have some fun with uh. I call this tell me more. And this is where Dave has got a list of guys and it's just not first round guys, it's we we've done this before. I don't think there's a first round guy on it. Dane and I are going to go through and Dave is gonna fire some names, and again I call this, tell me more, and we'll learn a little bit more

about these guys are further down the board. But I do I do want to ask you though about there's a lot of people out there that are lining up with the Ezekiel Elliott camp as far as and I don't know who deserves more credit for that, Lewis Riddick or us, Like, well, it's we're Lewis Riddick put it out there. We we we've talked about it much more.

But I will say this though, and I wanted to ask the question because of Joey Bosa and what we saw a little bit today on the NFL Network of Joey Bosa, Dane, We've all done the tape on Joey Bosa. I have my opinion on Joey Bosa. He has this opinion.

But I want to ask you guys, though, with the way that free agency is falling, and I'll focus on the Cowboys here right now, with the way the free agency's focusing or falling for the Cowboys, is Joey Bosa though, the lock pick for this football team if he's available. It's hard to say, how can you? You can't say a lot, you can't use the word lock. But I think he's on the shortlist obviously. Yeah, And I think, but has that changed for you guys in any I

would go as far as I would I would. I've been saying at least for a month that I think Bosa is one of about three guys that looks incredibly likely, and these first three days of free agency have done nothing to change, no change. I probably think even stronger now. I mean, if you put a gun to my head and said I had to predict to their pick would be, I would say Bosa. Yeah, Yeah, And that's kind of what I've been saying too. Yeah a while. I've been saying if he's still on the board of four, I

don't think he's on the board of five. He answers a need. I think he's one of the top four players in this draft. I think the only thing that would not make Bosa a Dallas Cowboy is if Jalen Ramsey's there. I think that creates some discussion about who's the better player, which direction do they go. But besides Jalen Ramsey, I'm not even sure they take a Miles Jack over Joey Bosa. So and I love Zeke m

I think he's gonna be outstanding. I think he's gonna be offensive Rookie of the Year next year, but I don't think that this team takes him at four. So you're looking at Bosa and look at free agency. Look at how much money these free agent pass rushers are getting. I'm saying, I mean, all thirty two teams are looking for more pass rush you have a chance to get And is he an elite pass rusher? No? No, You've been fair about that, right, And people get turning up

on that. It's a top five and I'm guilty. I'm guilty of kind of hammering the fact that I see a very good player. I don't see a great player, and that's in there, and there's nothing wrong with that assessment, because you know, I think the goal is to get some pretty good football players. And I think people see a top five pick and they want, I want an elite future Hall of Famer. That's just not realistic, especially in this draft class. I think Laramy Tunsel it could

be classified as maybe an elite type of player. Jalen Ramsey's on that cusp, but there aren't many of those types of guys in this draft. And I think Joey Bosa is a very good player, and you know what you're getting with them, I really think. I mean, again, it's hard to predict, but even if Ramsey's there, I wouldn't be surprised if Bosa's the pick. And you consider you just spent a first round pick on on Byron Jones,

who can play to two spots in the secondary. You have another pick with which to draft a defensive back or I mean, many more picks, but thirty four is the one I'm talking about, and I just think that up well a the obvious need and then be you don't, I mean, the upside is incredible. I mean, if Joey Bosa does turn into I could be dead wrong about

Joey Bosa. And you know I'll be the first to admit it that I'm wrong about him if he turns out to be the an elite type of a player, a rusher and all that, you know what I Hey, I will stand in here and say all day, hey, I missed the guy. But I mean I think that I just look at the way it shakes out. You know, you look at the Cowboys and what they've done. They've you know, visited with Nolan Carroll here. You know, they're

looking at a corner. See, but there's and there's not and I and I'm not gonna put words in your mouth gain other than Bosa though. As far as pass rush guys, you know how many guys are you really talking about? I mean, we've we've talked about Spence, you know, we've talked about but we've talked about loss in a little bits. It's a good player, yes, you know, that's

Austin from Clemson Spence. I think I like him as a pass rusher, but I think people will get so or they focus on that he's a good pass rusher, but they don't they forget the run part that he's not a very good run to rid. Once blockers get their hands on him, he's shut down most of the time. Sure, So there's a lot of questions with no not even

touched the off field stuff. I'm terrified by the thought of the Cowboys youngest and most talented pass rushers both being three four linebacker types, which I mean, like I thought last year that was Randy Gregory's best fit, and I think that's no offense's best fit too. Yeah, and I think that's fair assessment. The biggest thing with Bosa, and it's I'm sure it's always been this way, but I'm just kind of discovering it now, is how much

people are hung up on sacks. The sack number, right, it goes so much deeper than that for these pass rushers. If you're able to put pressure on the on the pocket, if you're able to force the offense to bring an extra tight end, an extra back to help chip you, if you have if they have to game plan against you as a pass rusher, you're doing your job even if you don't get to the quarterback and finish the sack. So I think we get so hung up or fans get so hung up on the sack you know it

is guilty. Is he a double edges act? Yeah? I don't mean that's what gets That's what gets guys paid, though. I mean I get why people focus on it, but it's all right, say Joey, they pay Olivier Vernon and he he's a seven and a half guy exactly. And I mean, say, you know, I do you tell me that Joey Bosa has seven sacks as a rookie. That tells me nothing. That tells me got to the and he tackled the quarterback seven times, right, That doesn't tell

me how he was there? You know the rest of the time that doesn't play against the run, right, I mean he plays, He'll play a couple hundred snaps, and seven sacks does not telling me the whole story. I mean it sacks. It's it's great you want him to have the double digit sack numbers fifteen seventeen, but there's so much more that goes to a pass rusher than just I think the thing that bothers me the most is that at four you're just looking for that dynamic guy.

Of course you are, Yeah, you know you Okay, there's a reason why you got the fourth pick. You're not very good, sure, so go get somebody that can help you not be four and twelve anymore. And I and I think and that, I mean, the narratives are hilarious because it's gone from like, well, for I mean, back in January, was like Bosa's a beast. Now it's you know, well, Bosa might not be special. Now it's like, good Bosa away from me. I wouldn't touch him with the ten football.

Whereas when you think about it, I mean, and you know, I I'm not in love with Joey Bosa. I'm the captain of the Zeke bandwagon. Blah blah blah. But you bring in Joey Bosa, and I I mean thinking specifically with the Cowboys, you know, and I know people are disappointed that they didn't spend a boatload of money in the beginning of free agency. But maybe you bring back Jack Crawford, you get, I mean, they just brought in Cedric Thornton. They're not done signing, They're not done signing people.

They're not going to be names that really move the needle. But maybe you bring in another Jack Crawford type. Of journeyman, serviceable rotational defensive end. You draft Joey Bosa, you get Randy Gregory back, and all of a sudden, you've got it. It's not amazing, but you can work with that. And I do think Joey Bosa would be a reliable part of that rotation as a Oh, there's no doubt about that.

Which and yeah, maybe he doesn't have ten sacks as a rookie, but to Dane's point, which he's made countless time has he has, Joey Bosa brings more to the table than just being able to get sacks, which I mean, you get caught up in these narratives and all of a sudden you're telling yourself, you know the world's gonna end if the Cowboys picked Joey Bosa. Really, I mean, that's that's ridiculous. That's a little hyperball, like, yeah, the Cowboys will be a better team with Joey Bosa. I

agree with go. I mean, you talk about Jalen Ramsey. You know, so I was gonna ask you two about Jalen Ramsey, and you know I that would be at least let me ask you another scenario. Then really just kind of popped in my head, what if Cleveland somehow doesn't take a quarterback? Possible? What if Cleveland doesn't take a quarterback Kaepernicks and Brown by the end of the weekend,

just well, they don't take a quarterback. Yeah, you're looking at this team and I know, I know, I know the Brown's like two of the guys, sure, and I need to figure out which two of the guy two of the three they really like. I know that for a fact. Okay, and so let me but we got to figure out what if? What if? What if the quarterback does come and play at four and it is and it is Bosa and a quarterback I really think,

but the quarterback has the higher grade. If you're asking me for the most realistic options, I've been saying, it's Bosa Ramsey. And then if the quarterback they like, if the quarterback they liked the most is there, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the pick. I think those are the three really realistic options. I'd still be surprised if

there's a quarterback at four. I mean, I when you're looking at their quarterback, their quarterback, what if you're saying you'd be surprised with the Cowboys picked one, or if the Browns the Cowboys pick Okay, okay, I mean I just when you're looking at the best four players in this draft, I don't know how you can make an argument that the quarterback is one of them. This team has said they'll take a franchise quarterback if he's there.

I don't think they're going to see a franchise quarterback. And there give you a scenario, a scenario that if somebody's available, for somebody to come up and get because everybody wants to trade back. Now everybody's like they're not said, you know, everybody's going to get a little skittish on

me right now. If Goff is there at four, I think that makes a world of sense, especially if San Francisco does actually trade Colin Kaepernick away and if if somehow I don't think it will happen, but if Laramie Tunsil falls to four, I could see, you know, kind of like I mean, I know they didn't trade up for him, but you know, Leonard Williams fell to the Jets last, and I mean number one players sitting there at for yeah, I mean maybe a team the Tampa

Bay Buccaneers, you know, they're at nine, they're not going to trade up to one. Maybe they would trade up to four, something like that wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, and you think it has to be a quarterback, or is it? I think that's the best chance. Best chance is always a quarterback, right, I mean, and I think especially in this draft class where as similar to last year, where I don't think there's that much separation between, you know,

these tiers of players. So I don't think we're gonna see a big splash trades unless it has something to do with one of these quarterbacks. Let me ask you one more question then I got one for you. And okay, but the Eagles are now picking at eight. Yeah, okay. Now now, now as a Cowboy fan, what are you worried about the Eagles taking it eight? Zeke? I mean that's it makes a lot of sense for the Eagles

written in the start, Yeah, exactly. And I think that now moving up to eight, it's a lot more realistic possibility. What about what about Treadwill? What do they take a wide receiver? It's possible. I just spent a first round pick on a receiver, so right, I mean, and I know that's not going to stop anybody. If that's their guy, that's their guy. But no, I you look at Doug Peterson at the new head coach in Philly. He likes balance,

but he wants to run the ball. Sure, And if you can get a foundation piece like Zeke who can impact your team in a lot of ways. Um, they have some offensive line issues, ze can help with that, they have some quarterback issues. Ze can help with that. Zeke it can be the ultimate band aid for that offense. And so I think he's a very realistic possibility. If you asked me right now who Philly's taken at aid, I'll say Zeke. The only other option. How to scare

you a little bit, don't it. The only other position that I could see them wanting above him would probably be offensive line. But I don't know who would be there that they would want over Zeke. Maybe the Michigan State kid. He's my second best Conklin all the way up at eight, Well, he's well, they took, they took, They've they've taken game. How about at nine? What the Giants did lat you know war Flowers, Yeah, didn't have a great rook here. Yeah, but I think Byron Maxwell's

gone to corner's possibility. N Bar Graves like him, but they did. Yeah, I mean it's it's the Eagles have I And this is kind of the same thing I said about the Giants too. The Giants just invested a hun million guaranteed in their defense, so the same thing goes for them. It wouldn't surprise me to see them look offense. And the Eagles too. I mean, they do have corner issues, but they've invested seventy million in their safeties. They're they just to go. They just extended Vinny Curry,

They're gonna extend Fletcher Cox. Yeah, so the offense is what needs help. And I'm telling you right now, get ready for Zeke to be on either the Giants or Eagles. It would not surprise me at all. So you don't see him getting out of this division. To you, it's just that's that's the stuff that happened. There's giant people, there's giant people. Still think they're gonna go defense again.

I mean, anything's possible, but it isn't that Just what would happen though, is you know this beast running back false to the Cowboys divisional rivals right after DeMarco Murray incident. Yeah, it's good times. Way it goes good. All right, Well, we're gonna take a first break of the day from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. Coming right back with the Draft Show.

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than the previous two. So stay tuned for that. Okay, ed Ka Hill, I thank you for this segment. We're about to do Twitter on the Twins, Twitter on the Twitters. Even listening to the Draft show reass probably not, but I always wanted to thank him just in case he is. All Right, We're gonna start with a real draft nerd question from Brett Adolphus Washington is a name we know. Yes, we talk about him a lot as a d tackle. Yes, do you think he can play left end? I think

he could. I I'm not sure that's his spot though. I think you want him on the interior. I kind of think of technique, not a yeah. How much flexibility are we talking here? I mean, so this is not something that y'all would consider basically as well. No, I

like him better playing inside. I like him. I like him playing on that outside shoulder of that guard and firing up the field there with a nice swim movements, a little bit power and down you a little bend inside yea, and shorter quick or shorter paths of the ball. That's what he hit the nail on the head right there, All right, um, good oldig State player. Though Twitter handles twenty millions something I don't know. It's hard to read,

but he basically wants to know. Give him a good idea of the round value, the depth of the cornerback class. If you're to assume Ramsey is not the pick at for, where are you looking at good value for cornerbacks in this draft? I could start. I could start myself, really like in the third round. You start, you know, the guy's like Howard and and to me, uh maybe even Will Jackson's more probably like a two kind of thing.

But I'm kind of looking at Aunty Brown was a guy I really liked to like Howard Redman, the kid from Mississippi State. I have in the third round. I think the medical stuff's gonna check out on him. We'll have to see how that goes. But yeah, depending on Ryan Smith is a name I know a lot of people have. Right there, I think you're central. Yeah, So I think you can look at every round and pick out a guy that could be there. Um, and you look at the second round if William Jackson's there, yeah,

third roun apple Eli Apple, Yeah, second third round? What would already burns? Already burn Miami. I think there's a lot of potential there. So I think you miss corner draft. You can go round by round and there's a few guys that would make some sense. Where are you going to play at Mills the LSU? You can play at safe here at corner corner Corner, Okay. I don't like him, Yeah, I I just wanted to make sure because I got him as as a corner as well. Arnaldo wants your

thoughts on Brandon Dowdy from Western Kentucky. The production was outstanding what he did the last few years of Western Kentucky. Um. I worry about his field vision. Sometimes it is a quarterback, by the way, right. Sometimes it takes aim a little too long to go from one to two to three, you know, decipher what he sees. Um. He really thrived in that spread scheme. Uh, you know, let him kind of see the entire field. Give him some time, but things are sped up. We saw it against LSU we

did um. He really struggled, So I worry about that part of his transit. He played it. It's a defense had had pace right. You could see a little bit of that kind of that indecision with him. So I think Dane's got him absolutely right. Chris wants to know about Karis Garrett from Tulsa wide receiver. He had a terrific watching Sanchez. Watch him against William Jackson. William Jackson was another one. Yeah, he had a couple of good plays and that was a good battle both of them.

And it's funny at the combine both said each other as the best player that case. So that'll tell you something. But Kiera's Garrett. He looks the part. I mean, he has the physical size that you want, right. I just wish you would play up to that size consistently. There are some physical corners that really get him off his game, and I think that that shows on tape. It's surprising for a guy that big too, right, Yeah, exactly, And

he's a little straight linish. If he's not running a go route or a slant, I worry about you know, where he's gonna be effective. So because of those reasons, that knocks him down a little bit. But he can do those things that he does really well, and going deep, being a deep threat and then using his body on slants. Yeah,

this is kind of an indication. If you look at the combine numbers sixty three almost six three and a half two hundred and twenty pounds, and then the times for funny on him because they got him as a four four four than a four four zero, so evidently he might have missed that. I think he's more in line with what you see the four five two and the four five six playing speed, and then if you split those times that makes him a four or five four.

I think that's more of an indication. I think the hand timers, the field timers missed him on the first one might have rolled, but but I think he's more of a player. When you look at a four or five four at sixty three two hundred twenty pounds, that's pretty pretty. He sustains that speed too. I think he dies as a lot of corners. He's there. You know off the line that all of a sudden, after twenty yards his speed is sustained and corners are a little

surprised by that, and that's why he's so effective. Was a deep throat, Yeah, thirty four and a half arms, and then you know, and then you know, with his reach of eighty two and five eights. What's your round projection on this guy? I had him in the fourth and I might be I might be two, I might be Yeah, it's a little higher for me. I think more fifth, sixth, Yeah, but I think we know were in the same kind of range, you know, day three. He's not a top old scout guy falling on old

scout guy falling like ye miserables? Does it worry about you about the routes? I mean to me, you know, yeah, slant or go? What else does he have besides I just I would just think they always look at I think Tulsa plays good football, and I'm always interested if if a guy could coach him, if you've got the measurables, you know, and this is where scouts fall in in trouble, is they think edables. My guy can coach him, Mike guy can make him better. Sure, he's probably more accurate

to what he is round projection wise. I'm thinking I've got to go around earlier to maybe grab a guy that's a four five guy that has that kind of height and weight and reach and all those stuff. There's a place for him, no question. I just I don't see. I don't see a future NFL starter. Okay, very Cowboys center. Question for Matt. He wants to know what does Cedric Thornton mean. We've been talking forever about that thirty four pick being a defensive tackle. Cowboys signed Thornton probably to

start at one tech. I mean, they gave him eighteen million dollars. I think that's a fair assumption. Kind of makes it seem unlikely that defensive tackles your thirty fourth pick, in my opinion. He said, running back or wide receiver specifically at thirty four kind of kind of set something. You know, we we've talked about. There's been plenty of second round wide receivers there if you're not happy with

what's going on with the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, I felt like that that was kind of a spot that if you said, okay, what are the three areas. I know we first started this journey. I was pointing at the defensive tackles. I mean it all round on the wall. Now now it's like the receivers, and then you got some cornerbacks. I was going to say, defensive back strikes me as a spot that I'm looking at at thirty four. Yeah,

I think so. I think so too. Receiver too. I don't want to There are plenty good Is it fair to say? All right, enough about Zeke? We don't think the Cowboys like Derek Henry enough to take him at thirty four, which is probably where you have to take him if you want him. Is there there's not another rocking back option at thirty four? Is there? I would take Dixon, You would take Dixon. I would take Dixon at thirty four, and I would Dan thinks you're stupid. No,

I think that's way too high for Dixon. But that's just me. I mean I that's a nice way of saying, he thinks you're that's fine. Who do you got it, dud? Do you got do you have somebody? Booker? Who? I think third round is where I'm looking after running back? I think book I have Booker, slightly headed Dixon. I

think Dixon's my only second round back I have. I this is just me reading the leaves, are trying to if they If Ezekiel Elliot's not the pick in round one, I don't think they're taking a running back until sixty seven or maybe nine. If you remember what happened to you last year, I know those backs well happen again. It could very well happen again, you know, And you start thinking about the names. Who do you have? Can you give me your order of second to third round

backs or third round backs, whoever you get? Henry I have been the second rounder, and then Booker, and then Dixon and then Process. Okay that's my and then Zeke at the number one, that'd be my top five. Yeah, somebody in that. This is actually great as a great segue. Dixon is my only second round guy. That's my only guy. But I love I love every name. I don't think they would take Henry. And I understand why he's got

Henry where he does. I get it, But I I it was very difficult for me to pull somebody out, and I pulled Dixon out of there just because of what I saw. I know you you give him a second round grade, But do you think he is the thirty fourth best player in this draft. Since it is such a high second round pick, it's basic. You gave me a choice. So if you gave me a choice of him or or Dotson or say William Jackson, right, yeah, I like that? Is that does that make this? Does that?

I mean William Jackson makes a lot of sense. He does. I like William Dotson makes a lot of sense. I like that too, So that would mean Dickson would probably not He would be third of that group. Bring on, bring on Corey Coleman. If he's there while we're at it, I'll take him. Dotson's first round player. I think he's border line. Uh, bring on will Fuller, I'll take him too. I'm down on these receivers. I keep moving them. I mean, the more hang on, I'm trying to get to your

a lot of receivers. I love it thirty four. No running backs, I love it thirty No, I'm kind of the same way I think treadwalls. Did you take him thirty four? Uh, he'd be one of the guys that considered I get to ride a round to players though. That would make you think differently about taking a running back. Yeah, no, exactly and I probably not taking a running back at thirty four, okay, because I think there's gonna be much better players available. Derrick Henry on my board is like

forty five, forty six something like that. I think they're running backs are gonna come flying off, and we're gonna be scrambling in the third round to try and find a running back. I think we're gonna be I think as much as I want Zeke to be the pick, I think we'll be waiting until Saturday for the Cowboys to pick a running back. That's my guest, Collins, how about Randall? Answer, give me a third day back? Then? Do you have a third day back? Jonathan Williams Alex

Collins teammate back. We're back at this. Yeah. Here we go flying under the radar because of his foot and he's a local kid. Bring him in, love to have him. Okay, what rand This is a Twitter question. This isn't just me, but Randall. Randall's days, you're gonna Randall wants to know give it. He wants a round on Kelvin Taylor, who I think is probably the next Emmitt Smith. I think you went to Florida. It's fine, don't listen to me. You don't hear my story about him? No, I don't.

I mean, and it's you talk about third day back. I think Kelln Taylor. I think I got the fourth, fifth round, the fifth. Yeah, I think that's kind of the range where where you're gonna get him. He's quicker than fast. Uh doesn't catch the ball great, No, and he didn't have a lot of reps doing it in college. But at the same time, smaller hands, but he holds onto the football. He didn't fumble in all. He was a tough son of this old man was there. I mean, my god, he's more like his mom than his dad.

I guess, Brad, so fourth or fifth round for Taylor probably I had him in the fifth, okay, Brad. But Dane doesn't think I have any These backs round. You guys are about to come over the table at each other about these running backs. And I love that's the running backs and receivers. I love it that the second, third, fourth rounds they're all over the place. I'm orders of that way though, too. Oh yeah, quartering Ted Thompson, Bill Belichick here, and we'll all have different orders for the

running backs and wide receivers in this group. I'm with you. I'm with you, all right, Dave, Sorry about that. Brad wants to know we're getting into hypotheticals. Why the hell not, I don't care, he said. If Bosa, Ramsey and Jack are the first three picks, now what so Bosa then we go to Tennessee at one? Yeah, Jack, Cleveland two. Just just say they're the three. They're gone. They're the first three picks. It doesn't matter. You have you have a shot at a quarterback there. Yeah, and you have

a shot at Tounsel. I think with these quarterbacks, didn't trade back. You have to make the decision before the draft starts whether or not you're going to draft the quarterback. I mean you don't. I don't think you. It's a situation. Were all their quarterback on the board? No, you have to make a decision before the draft either if a quarterbacks there were taking him. If he's not, we're not going to take him. And so. But that's by way you put him on the board, though, isn't it. Quarterback

you've made that decision. If you've got him in the top four or five on your board, you've made the decision. You're willing to take a quarterback, haven't you. And there's a difference between you actually pulling the trigger and then you know the way you put him on the board. No, that's I'm not saying that's the way I'm doing. I'm saying that's just reality. I mean, you could don't put him in the top five. Oh yeah, no, I agree. But who who's putting him in the top five? Well,

let's I'm saying, what if they put him? But by the scenario he just painted my quarterbacks still in play? If I have the okay, well then you have one. Then you're making the decision pre draft that if if our quarterbacks there were taking by where you put that tag on the wall. Sure, yeah, but I don't think they're going. If you're gonna take a quarterback at four, then you're not taking a position player over him. In my opinion, if you're taking a quarterback, taking a quarterback

doesn't matter who else is there. Tag tells me, the board tells me to do that. But quarterback quarterbacks are different, especially in this situation, like if you have Bosa number one on your board and Golf number two. Yeah, I don't think if Boast is there, I don't think it matters if you're taking a quarterback and your quarterbacks there you're taking. I agree, it's a philosophy thing they got.

You gotta know before this thing even starts, if you're really willing to do it, because if you're doing golf there, you put him there and you're thinking while he's not going to be there, but then he's there, you gotta I mean, you don't think to what you want to do in the first quarters different quarterback. I think you gotta tree quarterback different. Yeah, you have. Honestly, God, I think they need to decide anything they need to decide

before this thing starts. If they're going to draft a quarterba if a quarterback's not as good as another position player, don't put him up there. Then that's what I'm saying. But they're picking so early in the draft that I don't think there's big separation. But like the top five players in this draft, there's not much big separation. If the cowboards are picking fifteenth, that's a little different picking fourth. There's not a big separation between the top five players

in this draft. So if you feel it like a quarterback is five in this draft, then you take him no matter what. Then you. That's why he's on the board. For argument's sake. If I mean, so, Goff is not your highest rated player on the board, you don't expect him to fall to you, but he's there at four. You don't even consider that. Well, I consider it, yes, even though he's not the top rated guy on your board. Though,

that's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no, no no, I'm putting I've got my stack of the players I would take one to one fifty and that's how I'm gonna follow him. That I've solved my Goff. Goff is there. Let's say, Bossa, is your top guy, your top five guys overall? Do you have a top five? You have a quarterback in your top five? No? Okay, see that's I'm saying that right there. Tells me he's not going to take a quarterback, right exactly. And the Cowboys might

think this differently though, Oh, that's I'm saying. You're telling you don't wind to dress your board. No, but if you have a quarterback, I didn't get to treat quarterbacks differently. If you have a quarterback ranked as one of the top five players in this draft and he's available at four. It doesn't matter who else is available, you have to take him. I mean exactly, I know I did I just say that. I don't think so. I don't know. I'm doing a lot of yelling. Okay, I'm not yelling.

If you have both as your number one player in this draft, and they have golf two and they're both available at four, yeah, I think you have to take the quarterback. Yeah, even though you have Boso ranked a little higher. I don't think. I don't see much suff Bosha is higher than the quarterback on my board. I'm taking Bosa. Yeah, And I get that. I understand what you're saying from my from my philosophy. If I'm running a war room, if a quarterback treating quarterbacks a little

bit different, I agree with Dave. I think they need to know before this thing even starts, if that's they'll going to do. Back to the original question, though, if those three guys are off the board, that's when I'm really looking at Zeke because I'm not taking a quarterback there, I'm not taking tons on there. That's when I'd feel a lot more comfortable taking Zeke and minimizing my risk. That's your hope. They're not they're not taking zeke or I can't see it. I can't see it. I'm sorry.

I wish they would, but I can't see it. All right, we gotta take a break here, last one of the day. Thanks for all the Twitter questions, everybody that dived in there. Coming back, we're gonna have a little a more discussion. Dave is going to play a game with us called tell Me More, and we'll be right back from this

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selection is unmatched. You can trust the official travel partner of the Dallas Cowboy and with us, you'll travel like a pro. Visit Starsports Tours dot com. To book your travel packages. Today is the Downas Cowboys dot Com Draft showy. Yeah. I want to thank the folks at Star Sports Tours for being a part of this program. You have the Draft Show. Dane Burglar, David Hellman, Brian Broadest, Kent Garrison, Uh executive producer, Uh Dave. I want to give you

an opportunity to have a little fun. Yeah. The group we know, y'all are the ones that are gonna get I get called out every one on this show for not talking about guys that are down the line, and I want to do more of that the shows for the fans, and I want to educate people more about these players. So I know I trusted you to grab some guys, and Dan and I are going to do our best to educate. So these are these are players who have caught my eye. Okay, at one point or another,

couple of them combine guys, y'all. Y'all are not going to be surprised by the first guy that I throw out because he kind of perked up some eyebrows in Indianapolis. Okay, tell me more. Then tell me more about Tennessee wide receiver Marquez North, one of the better blockers. One of the better blocking lois Absolutely he's a one note runner. I don't see a lot of gears there, and it rounds the acceleration. But when the ball's in the air, he can go up and get it. Yeah. Really good

body control too. You watched the game, but Arkansas stay, Yeah, he turns. They throw a ball at a corner and it looks like he's gonna have to catch it in the end zone in front, and then he has to turns completely around to grab it. So sometimes when you get a guy that's got a lot of length height to him and they have to adjust his body that way, it's a little bit difficult. He looked pretty smooth doing it.

He's thick, so you think maybe he's a little stiff, but no, he booze really well, smooth adjustments on the ball. You wonder about the production, the lack of production, Yeah, that's he went down hill though, got a little nicked up though, couldn't stay healthy and say a lot of a lot of footcoats there on his report. Yeah, y'all could just talk about what you see on tape all day and that's fine. But I'm a bottom line kind of guy and a good projection. I want round, that's

what I round projection. Yeah, I got gave him a fifth. Yeah, I got him on the board as a five. Okay, I actually take that back. I got him to the bottom of the fourth. So four to five right there. Yeah, tell me more than problem child guy, so this will go over. Tell me more about Florida defensive end Alex McCalister. Huh have you seen him? I have seen him. Go ahead, I don't know if I draft him. I mean I, first of all, I think he's a three to four end.

I didn't really know where to play. Sorry, three four backer guy that you want just rushing that passer. He's flexible, he can move, he has zero power. He cannot convert his first stand power. I don't think he's getting much stronger. He was kicked out of Florida. He was that factors in as well. I think a team will take a chance on him late on Day three. I don't see enough there for me to use a draft pick on him. Yeah. I was the same way. I was expecting a lot

more from him and didn't and didn't get it. And I saw him get pushed around. I mean you quite a bit. Yeah, And that that really that I'm thinking, Okay, you're gonna hold up in there and and you know, do the things you want to do on the edge, and I just didn't see it. I think at best he's a sub package guy, maybe a nickel rusher, because he can bend, he can ben flexible. Maybe he can reach the corner and reach the quarterback. But besides that, you can't trust him on No, he can't, not at all.

Another combine, Darling, m tell me more about Georgia running back. Keith Marshall. Keith Marshall. He's really interesting because you know, he was actually higher recruited than Gurley when they both arrived at George at the same time. Marshall was kind of that prize recruit and girly he was, Okay, you know he's too but like me and Marshall, falk Ay and m Yeah, sure, Marshall. He couldn't stay healthy. That was the biggest thing with him, his acl that was

the main issue. He can he can run. His speed is fantastic. I wish he had better balance between the tackles. I don't see him break a lot of break a lot of tackle. He's going down on first contacts. That is the first thing I wrote. Yeah, you know, he doesn't finish forward at all. I mean, I'm just looking at my notes about him. I question his vision because there'll be times where they blow it open and he's running into something. He runs a blinder and and you're like, well, dude,

they just blow it out. You know the tackle that that we're looking at the thes is it the jo Yeah, theis like caves everything down. I'm thinking, just run behind that and he's running into somebody, I'm going, that's it. You know. He when he does sell explode, he's got the speed and he reaches it like that. He's gone, yeah, And that's that's a special part of him what he does really well. Um, I do think you know, as long as the medicals check out, he's draft the bull.

Uh maybe you can use them on special teams as well, because he did play special teams here. Yeah, and so I think that will help him. Uh could he be could he be your new Dunbar? And he's five ten five two hundred nineteen pounds four three one turner and at the medicals checkout. That's a guy on day three that I look at. How late I was just I was six. I was looking at him. I was looking at him. I said, And one of my things is I don't see a guy that always makes the first

man miss. No, he does. I mean he's that's that's bother. Maybe when you when you think about an explosive, that boom, that guy make somebody miss, and then you're and then now you're in the secondary cause and problems. I don't see that with this guy. That bothered me about him? Yeah I did. I'm sorry. When round? Did I have him in round? Did you have him? I had him in the six? Okay, I did. I had him down there with another utility back. Drake m kid from Alabama.

I've about Drake twelve on my board and I've got Marshall thirteen. There you go. I'm scouting him up right now. How about that Kenyan Drake as opposed to Canadian Drake? Yeah, I mean Canadian Drake said he's a performer as well. Tell me more provision about Georgia Tech safety, Jamal Golden, Oh did you like did you like him? Know? I'm just saying, why how did you pick this one? Didn'n't worry about it? I don't know. I didn't see enough there. Uh, there are times if you watch his flashes, I mean

he can he'll come up and hit you. He will do that. Um, but I see too many false steps. There's some spacing issues, some timing issues. Um, not enough there where I think this guy can really can make a difference on my football. No, I didn't see. There's plenty of other guys that if I'm gonna take a chance on some guys, and you could just go throughout this draft and and and find those guys. But I I was not. I was not enthusiastic about his tape

at all. And then and when the safety, like when you watch the West Virginia kid, you know, when you watch Joseph play, it's like, oh that's a bad play. Oh my god, he just killed a guy. Yeah, you know, bad play. Oh my god, he just here's a trainer, you know. You know, I mean that's you know, you gotta have something to keep me going. Yeah, we'll sit there and watch tape. We're I'll be like, you know, is he gonna make a play? Is this guy I'm

gonna make a play. And then all of a sudden he goes two or three games and the way these games are cut up for us, and they had supposedly the best plays, and you're thinking, man, this guy is not very good. There's about twenty five ish twenty to twenty five safeties drafted every year. Yeah, I don't think he's wanted the top twenty five. Would I would? I would agree on that, all right. I think y'all are gonna like this guy better. I've heard this name a lot.

I don't know enough about him. This is the last one, right right. Tell me more about Oklahoma corner Zack Sanchez. He's tough. This is one of the tougher evaluations for me. He's on a lot of highlight films for receiver. Yeah, well he is exactly, but it's hard the amount of interceptions that he has. Sure, I mean he he loves to bait throws. I was talking to a scout about him the other day and he called him mister Cushion because he gives such a huge cushion off the line

of scrimmage, because he wants to bait that throw. He wants to go for the interception that it ends up costing him in a lot of situations. So but at the same time, I don't, I don't. I'm watching his tape and I don't I swear they didn't coach him up,

and they just kind of put him out. They let him play exactly like they're out there to be a natural player and he but he has skill and that's what that's what gives me pause because if I can bring him in, teach him some technical Wait a minute, I tried to coach up somebody wanted to bring in a wide receiver and you weren't too happy about that. Now you want to coach up a quarter. Well, we're just want to bring up that I wanted to bring up the Tulsa kid to play, and you now you

don't want to coach. You're gonna he's a little Garrett's tightly wound where this kid can move a little bit. Got I think Sanchez, I don't know. He worries me because I think he's a He's a Day three guys, not top one hundred. You you you get mesmerized a little bit by him not making plays, and then all of a sudden, like we're talking about, he jumps out there and you're like, ha, got one there, but a little bit Jenkins Genors Jenkins who just signed big time

a guesser gambler fixed two mills. Yeah, the player that Sanchez is right now, I do not trust him. There's not as far from him on my team. That's what I do. Think he can get better. I do think he has a little more of a ways to go before he hit the ceiling. Okay, well, David, thank you so much for tell me more projection. Projection, that's what

I want. Oh you said late, you said third day guy, all right, I have a fifth, I have six okay, Yeah, and he's probably gonna go higher than that you wanted. You want it? Endo? You want it endo? The line, guys, I gave you like fifth three and this needs to be a weekly thing and we need to probably more reduce well know the name that are coming. So yeah, tell me more good I'll bring it back, I hope. Yeah,

Oh my god, kid about kid being well done? All right, in the last few minutes of here, the last seven or eight minutes we got to the show, I do want to take some calls. I hope. I'm not putting kin on the spot, but you never are right. Well, great, Well, so we've got the number there eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. Everybody on the Draft show is doing well today? And who do we got Ki? Yeah, we got Mike in New York. Go ahead, Mike, Hey, guys,

awesome show. I really love it. Thank you. Um. I have two questions, which you're kind of connected. Number one, what objective deck finition is there really for a first round player versus say a second round or a third round player for example? Is it like quality starter or

immediate quality starter? And then, depending on your answer to that, how is it that we kind of will put quarterbacks to say, maybe number eight on our board, so to speak, when we know that that position is more valuable than let's say a guard or you know, some other position. So I'm just curious to hear your thoughts on that. No, that's I think what we were talking about about. You can stack your board, but quarterbacks are just such a different animal. I don't think. Yeah, it's a perfect way

to put it. How do you really distinguish between you know, a player wething a guard that is one of you know, the seventh best player, but then a quarterback's the eighth best player. It's hard to do because, I mean, you just have to value quarterbacks differently than any other player. In this game. I mean, they touched the ball every That's the biggest cliche in the world, but it's true place I was involved with at one time in my life.

First round player description, rare college player, immediate impact player, potential difference makers now is there. Now, that's just that's just to describe, you know, in a certain level of the round. Here's another one foundation, building block player, first year starter, significant early contributor. These are first I mean, these are just like little verbiage things that you go and you kind of thirty one this year in the

first round. Right, Obviously there's a difference between the third pick the second round player. Then first round starter ability will have a defined role as a rookie and will

develop quickly. See that sounds a little bit different than what what you're dealing with on a and I think to Dane's point, it's really I mean, it's interesting when you're picking twenty seventh like the Cowboys were last year, right, it's a vastly different expectation than when you're been picking forth And I mean I've been saying this, you know, doing radio interviews and just talking to people. Right, it's not unreasonable to expect the Cowboys to dri draft three

starter capable players in this draft. Yeah, that doesn't mean they necessarily will, but I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. And I get the you know why those types of that exists, and you would identify a first round or as this, a second rounder as this, But it bothers me because every draft class is different. This year's first round is nowhere close to last year's first round and

the year before's first round. Right, There's so much different talent from round to round that I don't think you can just classify a second round pick as you want this because each draft is different, and I think you have different goals in the draft, You have different players in the draft, and so it bothers me just predetermining what you want specifically in that second round pick or that fifth round pick. Okay, kid Seth in San Antonio,

go ahead, Seth, thank you for taking my call. I just wanted to ask what are your all of opinion and what do you think are the odds of the Cowboys training back A couple of thoughts picking up Zeke and in the second round, maybe drafting Billings and adding a cornerback in the second round. And also when new draft boards usually get released, I'll go and hang up, like I'll answer my question, well, thank you. They're never released. Sometimes they get leaked. That has a way of happening.

That happens here. But I mean, if it were up to the franchises, you would never know. But every now and then you'll see it. It'll come out. But I put together one with Jeff Kavanaugh and Kevin Turner for one oh five three that we do that. We'll put that out the week before the draft of our guys. Now we got it ranked. Yeah, ideally you won't. Ideally for them, you will never see it. But no, they'll probably start putting it together right beginning of April. They're

doing it. Yeah, they're right now. They're hitting these pro days, the early one right now, kind of stacking the board a little bit. Right. They're getting an idea, they got the medical information, they got the interviews, they've got some tape work done, they've got their cross checks done. When did the meetings start? Where they start putting it. We're gonna see that. We're going to see that the first

of April. It's different from team a team because some teams, some teams go really like sometimes had a board before they combine, right, you know, the packers we traditionally had our board up are poured up at least through the skill guys we'd waited on and then after the combine when we'd had the speed, so we had our board like three quarters of the way done. Yeah, and every team's different. Will is gonna, you know, do his in probably in April. I'm gonna hijack his question. We've talked

about trading back for Zeke a million times. What about trading back for like a Shack Lawson, you know, like maybe you don't want Shack Lawson at four, but maybe you really like him at twelve. Again, we need somebody up, I know, I know you have to have a partner. I know that, and just know that. And that's no, No, it's a possibility. It's a possibility. But I think you looked at the Giants at ten. Maybe going defensive end is at different now with with the moves they made

in free agency. But I still think shack Lawson goes somewhere top fifteen, right, But I mean to go back to the Zeke thing. I know we've talked about it, but it's a little different. Now with Philly at eight, yeah, I think you have to. You can't go, you know, to nine or ten and still think you're realistically going to get Zeke. I think the only shot is if Goff's there at four San Francisco exactly. They they're worried about maybe Philly leap frogging them the five or six

to get a golf or another team doing that. So I think that's really the most realistic offer. I would worry about San Diego selling their picks. I would worry about San Diego to who to San Francisco. Oh yeah, I worry about I worry thinking the Cowboys might take a quarterback. Think of the Cowboys might do that. Yeah, you know, but just to make sure of it San Diego, San Diego. Another thing might happen too. Dallas might hold somebody up on picks. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

So they might want full value on pick. San Diego might not. San die might say hey, let's just bail. It's got to find a trade partner. From four to seven still gets you a second round pick. Probably four is high. Four is worth eighteen hundred, seven is worth fifteen hundred. You gotta make up three hundred points right there. It depends I'll desperate the team is, yeah, no, for sure, you get that, that's it. And how willing the team is to move back? Yeah, you don't want to just

give up that pick. Yeah, you want to hold somebody up, you want to make it. If it's two years ago, the Bills moved up from what eight to four to get Sammy Watkins, the Browns have to move back four or five spots and they had to give a future first round pick for that. I mean they oversold. Yeah, and you know it worked out okay for not for the Browns because they screw up the picks. Right, it's a different story, all right, Ken't you got one more? Yeah,

William and Shreveport, Well you got the last word. City, Thank you, Thank you, guys. I want to ask you, could you tell me more about these extra graph piss like in a third fourth thrill than when you lose somebody. I don't know if you heard, may not look like you're talking about No, no, no, we were. We were just mouthing each other when we was talking. Compensatory pick pensatory picks. Yeah, yeah, the volume turned out these extra draft horses that when you lose a player. Could you

explain more to me how that works? Okay, thank you very much for the call, William. So basically, I mean, it's complicated as hell, and honestly, the formula for determining how it works is one of the most archaic things I've ever heard. But when you lose players in free agency, you know, according to a certain value the NFL awards who knows, yeah, the NFL a word, you picks based on the value that they come to what that guy's worth. So the Cowboys lost six guys in free agency last year.

DeMarco Murray was obviously Offensive Player of the Year. He merits a much higher level of pick. But then you signed Greg Hardy, who's a Pro Bowl guy. Those offset each other. Lose Jeremy Parnell, who's a part time starter, thirty million dollar contract in Jacksonville, you're awarded you know, a fourth round or so pick. So basically, when it's all said and done, the Cowboys are in line for probably three or four compensatory picks. I think Parnell's definitely

a fourth yeah, and then probably three sixes. Yeah. I've also heard three sevens though, Yeah, they cannot the early indication was it was gonna be an extra four and three sixes that's supposed to come out of the day. I've also heard sevens. It's gonna come out today, yea. Moved up. They usually do it at the owner's mate yea, at the end of the month, but there's some buzz it's gonna come out today. It basically thirty two extra picks. It's basically an eighth round that's added to the draft.

So we'll find that ouption. So the Cowboys have five picks right now. They're in line for for your four more trade the picks. Trade the picks still next year. That's try. Okay, that's all the time. We have the draft show talking about next week. Might go a day earlier. I'll let you guys know. We'll follow us on Stewart's five days a week. That's the easiest to go on, but check out on Twitter. We'll let you know. But we might go a day earlier next week, but stay

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