Draft Show: On The Defensive

Draft show and draft coverage in general. Brian brought us Jeff Kavanaugh, Dane Bruce were from the Athletic and then Dallas Cowboys dot COM's own draft expert, as we like to call you. I feel like Brian and Jeff would probably have something to say about that, and same thing with Dane. But Brian draft actually David Hellman something to say about everything I do. So no, Dave's an expert.

Just Dave goes to like one hundred to one hundred and twenty players, then I go to one fifty and Brian goes to two hundred, and then Dane goes to eight hundred. Yeah, Dave, Dave is an expert. That might be the best thing you've said already, Dave. Dave's an expert to a certain point. And then Dave likes to ask Dane what he thinks. Yeah, tomorrow is gonna be boy, I cannot wait to hear what Dane has to say tomorrow. A lot of pitching that direction to that side of

the table. And of course, right now it looks like the Cowboys have a little bit of time until they are on the clock. They pick at the moment, and there's a lot of emphasis on at the moment at the number forty four over all slotted spot as the Cowboys still waiting for their second pick. Of course, their first one came at twelve. In last night's part of the draft of the first round, Michael Parsons, linebacker out of Penn State, was taken with the twelfth overall pick

after trading down from the Philadelphia Eagles. But Brian, I mean there is some smoke coming from that front office, in that that war room at the moment of maybe trying to get back up in the early parts of this second round. Yeah, this is great to be and if this is the difficult thing that you deal with when everybody has had the opportunity to sleep on their board and you know, you got all those names up, then you're thinking like, Okay, how can I get to

this guy? How can I maneuver? And you know, Dallas has got the extra picks that they can maybe make this happen. And I'm hearing for from several of my guys up on the top near that board that the Cowboys are attempting to move up there to get in that range, you know, the top of the first pick there would be at thirty three, thirty four, with the Jets Atlanta at thirty five. Starting to hear some whispers about that maybe the Cowboys were trying to get up

in there. So they're trying they've got a player of mine. And but the thing about it, though, guys, sometimes these teams are not going to let you back in because they're sleeping on those boards, and you know, and they see those players like, man, let's let's just pick this guy. We'll move on and we'll work the roast of the draft from there. That's the hard part for me. And we said that, you know, we did the pro post round press conference last night. We got back on the air,

and Brian, you remember twenty fourteen. It feels a lot like that to me, where you know, you drafted Zach Martin. There you maybe had one guy by the name of DeMarcus Lawrence that you really loved, and they jumped up to pick thirty four second pick in the round to get him. The problem is they had a trade partner and do they have it right now? And that's the

big question for me. I mean, we're gonna find out, because I think if the Cowboys can trade, I really think that they're gonna try to because they have the AMMO. I think they're happy with Micah Parsons, but I think we would all agree they would have loved to have gotten a cornerback last night. That's my inclination at least, and I think they're gonna try. It's just a matter of if they can find a part They're looking at those three third round picks and they're not thinking, Okay,

we're gonna draft three good players there. They're thinking, Okay, we're gonna use one of those two of those to go up and get even better player. And if they come away within the first three rounds with three players. Nothing wrong with that if they really believe in those players. And so corner, maybe another defensive player could be a safety, someone they have their eye on, someone looking to trade up and get their guy. Who do you think that

would be. That's my biggest question, because it could be a corner Jaff, it could be a safety. But at the same time, you're gonna have to give up a good amount of draft capital to get into that conversation, especially whenever it is, like Brian said, after sleeping on

a board like they have. Yeah, and it's tough because you try to narrow it down based on who you think the best players are left, and then you throw in the Cowboys' needs, right, because my initial inclination would be Holy Cow, Jeremiah Wosu Cormo is the best player on this board. But is that somebody that the Cowboys would be interested in or do we need to shift our attention over to somebody like Trevon merrig or Richie Grant or one of these corners. And again, because I

want to get in their brain and my brain. If you were going up for a corner, I'm like, whoa Kelvin Joseph and Asante Samuel Junior, and one of those is coachability questions, and one of those is small and so do I need to move on down a little bit and say, okay, what about like Trevon marrig or Tyson Campbell the Georgia corner? Would they be in on Christian Barmore? Would they be in on an edge like a ziz ajulary. Because some of my top players are

guys like Elijah Moore, Tevin Jenkins, Landon Dickerson. I don't know that those are trees they want to bark up. So I don't know, Dan, you want to help me try to narrow it down because I could go so many directions. And corner is so fascinating because after those first four guys, the four guys that were drafted last night with Certan Horn Farley and Greg Newsome, it's really anybody's guests which order each team has corners five through twelve.

I mean, if Paulson Nadibo was the target, would that be completely shocking? Not really? You know, he's a quality player, He's a Day two player. And so when you look at guys like Tyson Campbell, if you have to Melofon, Aaron Robinson, Paulson, Nadibo Asante, Samuel. I mean there's so many names here at corner that if they love one of these guys above the rest, that that could be

the target. We know they want to get upgrade the cornerback position, and if they feel like there's a gap between one of the guys, one of the corners that's left and then the rest of that group, I really feel like that could be the corner. We just it's it's hard to figure out who that is. We just don't have as many bread crumbs this year, you know, trying to figure out exactly who they're targeting. You have to we have to mention safety. No safety has been

drafted up to this point. Travan marig is out there, Richie Grant, Javon Holland. I know there's some chatter about Javon Holland being taken very early. I know the Dolphins have their eye on him, So we can't rule out safety either. A defensive back makes the most sense, though, I think, right yeah, I'm just starting again. Well, you guys are talking and giving really great information. Atlanta is a team that's interested in moving. So if Dallas can

get the thirty five. I did the quick math on that, likely going to have to part with one of those with one of those third round picks. You're seventy five, is we're two hundred and fifteen points, that's a way overpay you you're ninety You need ninety to get to them with your pick. So you're you're seventy five's were two fifteen. That's a way of an overpay. Eighty four is worth one seventy and ninety nine is worth one

oh four. So if you can convince the Falcons, say at thirty five, to take that ninety nine from me, the third round pick that you that you you know that you have, maybe that could get you to the spot where you need to pick the guy I like all the names that you guys were talking about. Would you do it for eighty because it's not really yours anyway? No, you took it as a consolation prize for not getting what you wanted attend. If it helps you get one

of those players that you guys mentioned. I think you app so. I think this is white Dallas. I think the Merrick thing, I think there's I think there's some some serious love there to that player, and I think that you know that the defensive back coach goes over there, he runs the workout and all that stuff. They're gonna know that guy. They're looking for a true free safety here, guys, they really really are. But you know again, it could be those cornerbacks too. I mean, they're just stacked in.

There's so nicely for you, a couple of them on the shorter side if you put your board together, probably for you, great for them, not so much. I do think it's interesting, and you know, I guess the flip side of that, which is the side that me and Dane would probably prefers. There's been so much smoke about

them maybe trying to trade that. I believe it. But last year, I don't remember who brought this up today, but they sat pat and let Treyvon Diggs just fall to him at fifty one and it looks like every good offensive tackle and this draft is still on the board heading into today. Jeremiah Woosu, Cormoa, Christian Barmore. These are guys you like, but not guys you need. Maybe they can just hang tight and let it fall their way. It didn't happen last night. It doesn't mean it can't

happen to night. Yeah. What we need to know about Corey Moore is there's a there's a condition there, and it's it's more of a procedure than it is a something wrong with him. He has a cardiac workup that needs to be done on him. It's more lack of information. Yeah, that's the biggest problem. And if you talk to these scouts and ascue me, there's doctors and trainers around the league.

They're saying, hey, no combine killed us. Right now, there's only eighty percent of this information that we have on these players. So this might be something that teams are holding on when you start talking about cardiac heart so we'll see. This is right around the moment when we were going to see that start coming into play last night. Whenever you have a first round grade on a player, you're not necessarily going to change that unless something major

comes out of the medicals. It's right around this second third round where these are still premium picks, but you still have to know at least, like Brian said, one hundred percent of the medical information to feel good about those premium picks. Well, and if the Cowboys were eyeing secondary. I would and this is not an informed speculation, it's just my thought on the players, I would think that would be a safety. And that actually kind of makes it a challenge for me because I think they really

do want a corner. And so if you start talking about packaging players and moving and giving guys up, because to me, it goes to what Dane is saying, like the order of the corners right now, I wouldn't want my team to be in a hurry to say I've got to have Tyson Campbell when let's say, for the Cowboys scheme, you want to fit Paulson, Nadibo, melafon Wu

Tyson Campbell, like I got a few of them. So like, I wouldn't be in a hurry to be so confident that I have the right order when there's so many people who have them in different orders that I need to jump to the front of the line to go get one of them. But I could see you thinking that about the safety. I could see you having a big time preference on the safeties a lot easier than the corners. Is that crazy? Well, but that's assuming that

they like all these corners. You know, it's it's it's hard to say, because who knows, they might not be interested in some of these guys, whether it be Aaron Robinson or a Debo or you know, it's just hard to say. But I think that's a fair point in general, because the safeties are there fewer safeties in this draft that you feel are worthy of a top fifty pick, whereas corners, that's a position that's going to stretch, which I hate. I hate that I'm saying this because I

want them to draft. I want them to draft a safety so bad, and there's so many ones that I like that are they can hang here. They could get Holland they could maybe you know, maybe they trade up for Mark or maybe maybe he falls, who knows, It's not out of the question. Richie Grant is one of everybody's one of their favorite players. Yeah, but I go back to twenty fourteen because I learned a valuable lesson

that year from Brian brought us. They traded up for DeMarcus Lawrence, and I hate getting rid of picks, and I was like, you know, Trent Murphy was still there. Who else was still there in that draft? Stefan too, it was still there, Like all these guys were still what are they doing. Brian was like, DeMarcus Lawrence is the only one left that they thought could play right into this scheme. Sometimes your preference is right, and and

I mean, yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence worked out. But the point is, you see a list of ten guys, you're like, this cornerback class can stretch. They probably or might I don't want to say probably. They might see three guys. They're like, there are three guys that can play on the boundary in this scheme that we feel good about, and we can't afford to lose them. Okay, well, riddle me this because for me, the top guys available don't play the positions we're talking about. Like my top guys would be

j ok adularry Landon Dickerson, Tevin Jenkins, Elijah Moore. Could the Cowboys stun you if they're trying to go up to get the highest rated player on the board, even if it's not one of the positions we're talking about. That's a fantastic question, and it's it's easy to fall in because I think, you know, last night with Kat we said like we beat it into the ground corner corner horns or tan horns or tan and so now we're sitting here. No, I don't want to say panic,

but you just feel that need. And I wonder if they feel it too, or if it's just us, And I don't know the answer, because like, if I were talking about going back up at the very top of round two, I would be doing it for a first round grade. So, like, I think, what would be fun is go around the room. You have first round players left? Who are they? I do? I have two? I have a Coromoa and OJULARI would be my two guys left. Those are my two as well. Dane yep, same here, Dave.

I mean I'll throw in Barmore. I know y'all hate him, but I don't, Okay. So that's just that's what I wonder. Would they be would they be trying to get up there for a guy at a position that they feel like they need and like, or would they be kind of in lockstep with Hey, guys, the two or three best players are these and they're there, let's go get them. Yeah. Well, it's interesting when you look at the guys that are left. There's usually a reason for it, you know, a Woosta Koramoa.

Brian laid that out Audilari's got his own medical issues. Christian Barmore, he's got his own off field issues. Landon Dickerson, he's got medical concerns. Tevin Jenkins off field and medical concerns. H Own Zika at Washington, He's got a few medical things. So on and on and on. Each one of these players that are the quote unquote best available, there's something going on with each of them that are going to cause them to fall a little bit where that fall

is going to end. As anybody's guests, do you think that that might play into the factor of the Cowboys may be jumping up because they're afraid that some of those guys with these big old question marks hovering over them are going to fall, and the players that they thought originally we're gonna be there at forty four might go a little bit early on here in this this second round. I'll tell you what happened last night. That was a big that was a big punch in the

face of reality. You know, I don't know. I heard that was a top player on their broad Okay, he's yeah, that's not a good point, that's right, I mean, but that's but you also could you also hear that oh well, hey, well we would have taken one of the corners over

him if that was the case. And so that was a that was a big, big gut punch last night to sit there and watch that happen right in front of you, and Stephen Jones, to his credit, laying chum in the water two three days before with Philadelphia, knowing how he wants to come up and get a wide receiver, because at seven thirty in the morning, he's trying to go up and get wattle, you know, but he has to settle with Smith, which is not a bad consolation prize by the way, But that was a big kick

in the you know what. I've said it three different ways now, but that's that's what I want to shout out. Urban Meyer commend him for his honesty. He said today that they were heartbroken when someone was taken off the board right before they picked at twenty five. So he didn't try to hide it and say, oh, yeah, Travis etn was the next guy on our board, you know, the top player on our board. He was flat out

said we were heartbroken. I don't he didn't say who, maybe Kadarius Tony went twenty, but he did not hide it, which I appreciate that honesty. Yeah, that's that's refreshing, because lord knows, you know, every guy they against the guy they wanted. You don't want to be the team sitting there with draft cappel and again I'm the guy also to the predict that they're gonna make all these picks because Steve Jones is telling me I got no money, Bros.

I'm so I got no money. I gotta get all these young players to play, you know, but I want You don't want to be the team sitting there with all these picks and going, oh man, we're just letting him come off the board and we could have done something here, you know, Or you see somebody make a trade, you're like going, what are we doing? You know you

don't want to be that team. Well, you also mentioned it a couple of moments ago, and my own only take one of those picks to get back up into the top thirty, to get into those those mid thirties picks. If you only take one of your eleven picks to do so, I don't think it's necessarily anything we could we could go against. If it's the Dallas Cowboys, let's go and take our first break before the first pick is in of the night. The pick is in, by the way from Jacksonville, who is on the clock to

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the draft show back in December. So you've been around, You've you've seen the personalities back and forth. But Dane is the pick is in for Jacksonville pick number thirty three of the NFL Draft. Do you think it could be here? As Goodell walks to the stage, Tyson Campbell, that that was I heard that Jacksonville Jaguars liked him a lot. Uh. That makes the most sensere They could use a corner But there's a lot of players on the board here. They got plenty of calls too, and

they turned down every one of those calls. So someone here that they really really like could be Tyson Campbell. By the way, we are not allowed to use the audio again from the NFL broadcast of the NFL Yes, we are okay, but we still can't use it. Apparently, cornerback Tyson Campbell out of Georgia, first pick off the board. I mentioned him earlier, and Dan, you were very quick to say he was going to be the first pick. It's what I heard. That's what I was told last night,

and I was told this morning. Uh. It's funny. Uh. Soon after Tyson Campbell, the odds makers to go thirty three went from like plus seven hundred to minus two fifty or something, So you knew something was up. I just want to like, Jeff's over here dancing because the guy he doesn't like is off the board. Yeah, we're already there. Tyson Campbell's a freaking good cornerback, man, I don't understand the hate. I like him more than Stokes, to be honest with you, I just think he looks natural.

He got it in the sec week after we like, what do you want? I think he's more fluid than Stokes is, but Stokes got better results every week. And like, I think Campbell can be a good corner I don't think he is a good NFL quote. He didn't go in the top ten. He's a second round pick, I know. But he's my one, two, three, four or five six seventh corner left. So I didn't want the Cowboys to trade up for my seventh corner left because I'm more about me that We've been over this a million times.

But that's the disconnect, because I don't care about me or you. Oh see, I'm in on me because if you don't care about you, nobody's going to that is that here on the draft A poster out of that on the wall, down to that point, Like I'm sure you have Asante Samuel over over him right here. Well, he's not. He won't be a Cowboys pick, So I

just don't care. So that's a good question, though, Asante Samuel, it's been very quick, it's been very well documented that we're riding him off as a quote unquote Cowboys pick. I am, I don't want. You're not alone in that regard though, because of the way that he fits into what could be the Dan Quinn system. However, if he's a slot corner, could you use him there? If you thought he was better than Jordan Lewis, could you use him in that scenario? Because he is a little shorter,

but he's quick enough. I can play out something. I mean, I could play him outside. I just what bothers me is that the Cowboys tell us it's player over scheme, and then we write off a bunch of players because of this because of its game. So I just I just went consistency. There is that a scheme thing? Or listen, I get like I've watched Asante Samuel's tape. He's really good and he did it on the outside in a major college conference, which you know, Florida State certainly fits

the parameters of the schools they look at. But it's still I think it's more of just a philosophy thing in a scheme thing of like if you're a certain size, then you don't have a certain reach, you can't do certain things. I don't know if that's scheme. The first pick of the twenty twenty one second round of the NFL Draft, Tyson Campbell, goes to the Jacksonville Jaguars, the

cornerback out of George As. We welcome you back into our coverage here on one oh five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com and Dan We just mentioned a couple of moments ago. But what kind of player are the Jaguars getting with that first pick of the draft? Size speed talk about how you draw up the cornerback position. He is what it looks like at least, just you know, going out there and being an athlete. The big reason why he's still available here is he really struggles to

find the football and make plays on the football. It's it's and that's something that you talk to. Some coaches, they'll say, we can coach him to be better in that area. Other coaches will tell you either you have it or you don't. And I would say. The one thing about Tyson Campbell that I liked about him is he was consistently in phase where you know, SEC quarterbacks did not hesitate to throw at him, but he was always in phase. It wasn't like he was off balance

and just looked out of control out there. He was in phase. He just couldn't finish And so I understand why he is the pick here. And Jaguars they want to get better at corner. They drafted CJ. Henderson in the first round last year. They go back to the SEC for another corner this year with Tyson Campbell. Understand you know Urban Meyer, he wants speed and they get

a lot of it here with Campbell and Kavadaugh. This is one of your guys that at least were a Cowboys target, but not necessarily one that you were very high on. Yeah, and it's pretty much exactly what Dane is saying, like, I'm a big fan of the guys who as a cornerback. The ball is in the air, now what, And if the answer to now what is I'm gonna find it and I'm gonna make a play, You're kind of my guy. And if that's not the answer,

then I'm scared. So that's the sort of player that I didn't want to see the Cowboys give up an additional pick to go pursue. I would rather say, Okay, let's see what's going to happen with these corners for another minute. Let's let it play out for a second. And if you end up scrambling with the last guy that you think because a fit like what happened with Tank Lawrence, go get him. Um that's just not the guy that I wanted to do it for. And so I hope he plays well in Jacksonville because I cheer

for everybody. Guys. Guys, Dallas is going to own Atlanta's pick here. So they got in at thirty five. So yeah, I don't know the particulars of what happened with the trade, but we'll we'll get him here. We've got You've got the Jets still ahead, but Dallas has convinced the Atlanta Falcons to that we need your pick, so we'll see what happens as we get there. I'm not I'm I'm dumb a lot, and I'm wrong a lot. But I love I love feeling smart and right. It is a

fantastic feel. Okay, now I just got another text says they just backed out. Oh okay, why we use a pencil? All right, let's just this. Yeah, I'm dealing with I'm dealing with a bunch of teams. Got a couple of sources going on. Yeah, I got a couple of sources. I'm sorry, Brian's a busy guy. Right as I start to reach to pat myself on the backs away from you,

you were actually in motion fel good about himself. Never mind, Honestly, I wouldn't, you know, not to I don't want to sound too self important, but I wouldn't be surprised by the way. The Jets have just made their selection at thirty four. Wide receiver Elijah Moore out of Old miss is the second player off the board here in the second round of the draft. Really good wide receiver, and Jeff, I know you were mentioning him a couple of moments

ago as well. They just said Dallas backed out, So okay, yeah, they backed out Elijah Moore. Yeah, he was my fourth favorite wide receiver in this draft, and I kind of thought he would go in the first round. I love Elijah Moore. I think there's elements when you watch him run routes that are almost Antonio brownish, and he's got four three speed and he has incredible production in the SEC. I think Elijah Moore is a really really good player at a premium position. So I think that that is

a great pick. I feel really weird about how much I like what the Jets are doing. Three really good pigs. Yeah, good point. I mean, Joe Douglas knows what he's doing. And you know, you look at what they did last year in the first round with McKay Beckton. Then this year they get Elijah vera tucker that's the left side of their line for the next ten years. It looks pretty good. And then you add a weapon like Elijah Moore,

who Jamison Crowder maybe a June first cut. You got Corey Davis and Denzel Mims on the outside, Elijah Moore on the inside. Hey, Zach Wilson, Uh, not not a bad start there for you. In New York, roll left, you know, shuffle left in the pocket and then get the ball out Brian kind of going off of what

what was reported initially. And then of course, like you said, Dallas backing out, word coming down or at least rumor that they wanted Tyson Campbell there, Yeah, there's a penchantial that they wanted Campbell and with him off the board, is it possible that it's back on? Brian? Is it Schefter just tweetstrating out, Oh, they're trading maybe so they might not be else. I wonder if they got a better off. That's a good point. This is crazy. Oh,

back and forth. So Atlanta is out, that's that's big report is out, So that would be the next pick. So they have they have already said to the Jets, at least on the NFL broadcast, that Elijah Moore is the pick. But nobody's moved on and that's probably for good reason. They're trying to figure out who they just traded out too well. And Elijah Moore was the highest, my highest graded player still available that didn't have one of those off field or medical issues you know we

went through. Was that clean, very clean player aside from what happened at UH in the Egg Bowl two years ago. Iconic, Oh did he do the fire hydrant thing? Yeah, I should have moved him up to wide receiver three. Yeah, that's great. So yeah, that's the extent of it. And then you can feel pretty good about Elijah Moore. By the way, the pick is in at thirty five and it was the Denver Broncos. Wow, just a team of the d Denver's just out to ruin Dallas, Alas strapped

all the way. From far did they come up? They went from him forty I assume, right if they gave that up. Yeah, that's okay. So if you're Atlanta, you're thinking, and I'm not falling as far back to forty four, I can fall back to forty and still get a third round pick, and then I can trade back to forty four if Dallas this guy makes it to me and I can get more get back up to forty three. Maybe. How often, Brian you you spent some time in war rooms. How often does stuff like that? That was a lot

of fun? How often? How often does that happen? Where it happens? Yeah, it just gets completely Yeah, all of a sudden, you're on the phone and you're like, thinking, we got a deal and you want us to turn the card in and they're like, no, we just lost our guy. We'll catch you another time, and you're like damn, and you hang up the phone and you're starting like who else we got on the phone. Oh so, so do we wonder it was it maybe Campbell? They thought they were they were going up to try to get

Cambell and then he got picked. That would make sense, Okay, So yeah, either that or like you said, Denver came up and put him put an offer on the table that was better. We'll see what the what the compensation is here in a couple of moments. But there's a good chance that hey, maybe it is maybe Denver wanted to go up and get one of these guys. Who

could this be for Denver? Though, Dane, if you're looking and trading up from forty to thirty five, it has to be a pretty select few individuals that they'd be interested in, right. Yeah, let's look at the needs chart here for Denver, um you're looking at. Here's here's the compensation. By the way, Denver gives up thirty, gets thirty fifth, they give up a six round pick as well. Uh, and then Atlanta has forty and they receive a fourth which is one fourteen from Denver. So all this year

in this trade. At the moment, I think Denver's top three knees right now quarterback, right tackle, and linebacker Jenkins. Could this be Mills, a Wooskoramoa? Yeah, I mean quarterback. Yeah, it could be where we see the quarterback where I mean, you would think the would have taken fields at nine, right if they really wanted a quarterback that badly. Listen to the George Patton talk about that he was adamant

about keeping that certan pick. That was one that he didn't even tell his scouts or anything that what he was doing. So yeah, I mean, when you've got a cornerback available, you just you can't pick a quarterback. It would just be an all play. I just can't worry about that need. So the pick is in, the Broncos are about to select it, and with the thirty fifth pick in the NFL Draft, the Broncos select I'm gonna time this out right today at some point, Dave. I

was really bad at last week. You'll get it on fifth last. It was last night. S See, it's been that kind of You're not inspiring confidence, not even a little bit. Well, the problem is you never know when they got to read running back Williams out of North Carolina, a Miami smart. Nothing like giving up picks for a running back. Dane nothing like it. Well, I mean I

think there's a pretty big drop off. I mean, we you know, you think of Naja Harris, Travis etn and then Javonte Williams, and then there's a little bit of a drop off before you get to that next guy, whether it's Gainwell or Michael Carter or Trey Sermon. So, uh, but you're here, you're looking at Denver. Uh. They got rid of who's our Colorado running back, your boy Philip Lindsay. Yeah, Philip Lindsay got rid of him. So you know they

had a need there. Melvin Gordon really hasn't worked out the way they thought, so I can understand why they want to get better running back. I'm gonna stand on the table for the old Krusties and say, that's a small price to pay for a first round, arguably caliber

running back, like a fourth round pick. Really, come on, you're right, I've just swung so far on my pick, just like it's possible to still think running back is a valuable position, like yeah, absolutely, And I get it, Like I running backs don't matter is more of a catchphrase than anything, and I understand the logic of it. I'd rather have a good one than a bad one.

If you told me if I can get Javonte Williams for a fourth round pick and steal him from Miami, I'm I'm in if I if I need one obvious, is there any chance that he's better than the guys that were picked ahead of him at n He's not the first person that suggested that. I mean, I'm just I but I have him behind the other two. Don't get me wrong on that. I just wonder if that's one of those situations where this kid you watch him play man, I mean, he he's pretty special carrying the ball.

I think when you watch the way he goes down hill, he attacks, he's a hard guy to tackle. I mean, guys bounce off him and stuff like that. So you know, good for good for Denver to make that happen. They I mean, they go up and they steal the Cowboys draft or at least early on and take Patrick's or ten at nine, and then they get Javonte Williams. Here in the early parts, it's pretty good. One two punched there a little bit impact on both sides of the

football for the Denver Broncos. Once again, it was two nineteen that the Broncos got from Atlanta, and then it was the fourth round pick that Atlanta received for Denver that was at one fourteen, and now the Falcons will pick a little bit further back at forty. So on the clock. Now the Miami Dolphins, Dane, you said that you thought it might have been Javonte Williams, the running back going this direction. Where do they pivot too? Now?

They really need a right tackle. Uh, you know Tevin Jenkins. How do they feel about him? Could that be a fit here? That that's a possibility. They we talked about maybe going linebacker in the first round, so or Usukuromo. I feel like we're gonna be naming a lot of these same names as we go through here in the first half of the second round. Some of these talented players, Uh that that could be there for them, not not cause me. Uh maybe Richie Grant. They can use more

safety help a Santy Samuel another corner. Can I ask you about cause me? When you got you see a knee bender there at all? I see a good I could see a good athlete. And that's thatcher. He's got a shorter armed guy, Okay, and that and that is something that you see for sure. Yeah, all right, he's not a road. I appreciate you confirming my belief there. Thank you for doing it. Who did we mocked to

in our our mock draft? This was a Javante Williams that we mocked to Miami here, so it could end up being a tackled running backs pretty much off the table. It's the Dolphins, the Eagles, the Bengals than the Panthers. The next four picks. Oh that's wow. Holland safety out of Oregon as the selection for Jeff got real happy right there. Wow, I know wait, okay, which I know you're You're not the only person. You don't think he can cover? No, I think he can. I just like

other safeties better. And I kept hearing that the Cowboys were interested in Javon Holland and it was gonna it was gonna hurt me if they picked Javon Holland with like Richie Grant. They want to believe me, we gotta fight on it before a show today. Well, no, because I felt like Brian was talking about Holland and I was like, wait, you have Grant higher. But but I

was trying to I was, you're right. I was trying to tell you who I thought they were gonna take right and and I want the NFL to help them not take the guys I don't want them to take. So I appreciate the Miami Dolphins doing that, just taking him off the table before you even have to make a decision. I think it's Jeff's cheering for I'm not saying I'm here for me, Dave Javon. Holland's not my favorite player in this class, but I think I got so excited, like there's so much smoke that they might

actually draft to say that. I'm just like, if you'll just do it, I'll take what I can get. Did you think, like if you're just willing to spend the pick, fine, I don't care. Did you think Dallas like Holland over merrig Or Grant? I think Merik is their favorite. I think they like I think they like talland more than they like Richie Grant. You think so? I mean, again, to Dane's point, we have fewer bet breadcump crumbs than we ever have. Let's get picked, then let's go ahead,

and I mean to bring Richie Grant. I do like American Richie Grant. Are back to back is opening for people to be gone. I always at the point of the draft, it's actually I don't want it actually happens in war rooms where you're like, oh, please let them take that guy, let them tell oh, yes, okay, yeah that was throw Oh no, a safety's gone, and you fist pump your buddy under the table, like, not my safety, though I hope he has a great career, though, I

cheer for everybody. That's how we kind of that's how we think of ourselves here is as a mini war room. So there's a little bit of fist. I don't think you're very good, but now that you're not my problem, good Dane. Put him in order. Just your order, Richie, Grant Mary and Holland right there. Okay, so we're fist bumping. You say, Grant Mary Holland, that's my personal order. Yes, I went, I went, Grant Holland, Holland, I went mine.

I'm gonna do my thing. But they're all the same, they're all in the same right there, they're on the same round. Has anybody like we've we've heard so many links to Merrick, We've heard links to Holland. Do we have an inkling of an idea of what these guys think about Richie Grant. That's why they're gonna take it. I mean, I hope you're right. They only had one zoom call with Michael Parsons and the head coach wasn't on it, so who knows. That's not an Indica trying

to reach out. I got a no comment on him Grant. Yeah, maybe that means they love him. Confirmed Lijah Molden at safety. We got, we got some guys. We're creeping up on forty four boys. We're doing great, So there are some really good players still available to hated Philadelphia Eagles are on the clock at the moment. We're gonna step aside with our second right. You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one on five three the Fan

and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Clare I haven't heard clear yet. I'm gonna assume we're clear. I'm gonna assume we're clear. We're here always right now. We're killing it right now about this. We're back on the internet side of things in Javon Holland, just off the board to the Miami Dolphins at thirty six. At thirty seven, the Eagles than the Bengals, than the Panthers, picking back to back to back. Eagles, of course got their wide receivers, yet got got their

wide receiver rather yesterday. Dane. Do you think there's a chance that, uh, they go offensive side of the football here they go try and find one of those corners. Yeah, we know they want to get better at corner, so maybe this is where we start to see another one of those runs. But I don't have to go there. You know, they don't have to go corner when I think that they feel like the whole board is open to them. Creed Humphrey at center as a possibility here

they could address the offensive line. They're always looking for pass rushers. I really think the Eagles are wide open with this pick. If it was if it was an offensive lineman here, who do you think it would be? Do you think it would be like Jenkins? Jenkins would be my best Landon Dickerson? Why is he? Why is he still here? Dylan Redunds, Uh, Tevin Jenkins? What's going on? I know his shoulder was flagged and you know, just uh some Scott's voice, some concerns about just uh, you know,

him being good. No, more just football character stuff. Okay, okay, leave it at that, all right? Too mean to people on the fields. Just watching the tape, you wouldn't expect that, yahause he plays with his hair on fire, and you know he's a he's a bully. Who's your top interior lineman right now? Why Davis Landon Dickers He's a first round talent. It just comes down to the medicals and are you comfortable with his injury history? But just based

on talent, based on character, easily landed Dickerson. He was like my number twenty one overall player. Can he play guard? Yeah? Where I think he's best? Okay, And I think that he should be in consideration for the Cowboys. When we were competing with the Connors and with Beta, they didn't want to take one the best guards last night. Yeah, well you know that Michael Parsons was at the top of their board. That's true, number one overall player or whatever.

The only thing they actually tipped was when McCarthy said that they wanted to draft an offensive lineman this weekend. So maybe you'll get your wish. Yeah maybe so. Landon Dickerson is the only player in this draft who has at least one start at all five offensive line positions in college, and he's got to be one of the only guys in this draft who's had every college season end with the season ending injury. But I love, Yeah, tape is awesome. His tape is awesome. I would love

to disagree with you. The Eagle selection is in it. How about center Landed Dickerson out of Alabama. That's a really good pick. I think is he going to play center or guard for Philadelphia? We just talked about it and maybe he your guard. Yeah, well, when Kelsey retires, you can move into I mean that's the beauty of Landon Dickerson is you don't have to, you know, absolutely put him here or there. He can play across the interior maybe. I mean he's six six three three twenty.

I mean he can play probably outside if you wanted him too. They list him as a center. It looks like they're on the on the board. I think that's what he was officially listed as. Yeah, I'm sure, but like I said, he started all across the offensive line, and I think he's actually best at guard. Not many six six centers in the NFL. It's kind of rare. It used to be a tall center was a bad center.

It used to be that way because when you start talking about like at least lineman getting underneath you and stuff like that. But these these tall guys are playing

pretty well. This This one's fun man because he's a bully too, Like Landon Dickerson might have had more cleanups than anybody else that I studied, where it's like it's pass protection and if you're rushing against a guard but there's nobody over the center, you should probably have your head on a swivel because you're about to get dump trucked. Like Landon Dickerson likes nothing better than to put you

on your hind quarters. So with Landon Dickerson here, the pick of Christian Barmore to the Cowboys at forty four is confirmed. Right, that's what's happening, because it's just gonna be like them practice to go against each other. I was gonna, I mean, it's Tuscaloosa North up there in Philly right now, and might as well. That's true. Back to back Alabama players going to Philadelphia in this draft.

That's two really good picks for the Eagles, And I hate saying that, I really do you didn't have to say it. But there's a reason Dickerson felt a little bit is because the injury history is vast, uh and that's something that will be uh, you know, something we have to watch and hopefully you can stay on the field because he's just a good player and he's he's the type of player that you love to have on your team, but you hate him when he's an opponent

because he will just not let up. And the football intelligence is off the charts. So I got we we've skipped over it. But New England has traded into this spot since he's fallen back to yeah, forty six, and so New England's and I mean they already made their pick. So thirty eight overall is what New England gets. Sinnati gets forty six and the fourth round picks one, twenty

two and one thirty. That is not a lot for an eight spot jump, by the way, your team's trying to do it here back here at the twenty twenty one NFL Draft Live from the Star here on one O five three, the fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We had a couple of picks come out across the board after Javon Holland flew off the board to Miami Landon Dickerson, the center slash offensive lineman out of Alabama, goes to Philadelphia as the Eagles take the second straight

Alabama Crimson Tide player. And now the Bengals were originally on the clock, but instead the New England Patriots trade up with a couple of fourth round picks and they select Alabama defensive tackle Christian Barmore, another Cowboys target off the board here over the last couple of minutes, Brian, is that one hurt a little bit just because you might have hoped he fell to forty four. I kind of heard you have to hold his hand as a player,

and there were some some things like that. You know, they have a big support staff there at Alabama, and so he was a guy. Though they got him around, he wasn't a starter. You watch some tape at him, and he's not actually starting in the game. It's the last three or four games you watch. You're like, oh,

that's this kid. Oh I get it now. So yeah, but you talk about Nick Saban has a great relationship with Bill Belichick, though they'll know all about the kid, you know, and obviously New England feel like that they can reach him. If he plays like he did those last several games, then the Patriots should look really smart here. This is oh sorry, he just a guy that hates

to be blocked. I mean you watch him over the second half of the season, and just as the Ohio State Notre Dame, the two teams at Alabama played in the playoff, a guy that was just unblockable at times. And you know he was. He was my top defensive tackle in this in the summer, and it was all based on traits because he, you know, was not a

full time starter. Yet in the first half of the year, you got I was kind of worried, like, Okay, this does not look like the guy that I studied over the summer, And in the back half of twenty twenty, he just turned it on and was unblockable. So a really good player. And that's a great point with the save in Belichick connection the questions. Belichick made this move with the answers that he wanted to some of those questions, and you know that the intel is good with that relationship.

This goes back to my point about Richie Grant, which it's kind of subjective, but I haven't gotten the sense recently maybe if he fell into their labs at forty four, they would draft him. But I don't get the sense that this was like a guy that the Cowboys super coveted, do you know? Yeah, I don't think, And I think there are other d tackles they like a lot more

that they could get later tonight or maybe tomorrow. Yeah, you know, I would think, And it depends because I don't know exactly how they feel about a rotation of Tristan Hill and Nevill gal More, but maybe they like that. And if they do, then what you're really looking for is I know, Barmore's three hundred and ten pounds, but to me, he's not a one technique. He's more of an attacker. At Alabama, they weren't putting him on the field rundowns. They were putting him into rush the passer.

So I think, if I'm the Cowboys, I'll just watch the defensive tackle thing play out and maybe, if you like Levi owns Rique enough, you could pop him at forty four. But I might just wait until later to try to get one of the big boys. I think they're looking for a trash can full of dirt to steal Brian's favorite catchphrase. Great catchphrase though, there's a couple of them in this draft. Though, I'll tear cans full of dirt. Yeah, that kid McNeil, he's breathing the same

air as the center he's at close to. I mean, it's incredible how close he's. Super spreader. Event in there got the Bears drafting Tevin Jenkins. Who's That's who I had the Bears drafting in my final mock draft in the first round. So pretty good value here to get him in a second. And you know, we just laid out the concerns with Tevin Jenkins. But on the field, I mean usually when you hear blocked a guy off

the screen, usually that's just kind of hyperbole. And you know, just to give you a visual, No, you watch watch him against Joseph Osai and he literally blocks him off the screen. He's gonna be a plug and play right tackle for the Bears. I'm such a sucker for a pairing like you draft Justin Fields on Thursday and draft this guy on Friday. I love that. Who took the drafting away from Matt Naggie or from Ryan Pitt right, Like what I mean, it's like the Bears and the Jets.

I love what they're doing, and I'm not used to saying that changing narratives. I really wanted Tevin Jenkins to be a raven, but just well, because you know, you

got a quarterback run threat. You're just doing so much power and you just put Tevin Jenkins in there and you're like, hey, go move people, because that's the sort of dude that he is where it's just like, yes, I'm gonna beat you up and we're gonna go over here for a while, and then I'm gonna meet you back at the line of scrimmage on the next play and we're gonna do it again. He's just he's so

much fun to watch. They traded up for Justin Fields in the first round and they were able to keep the second round pick, and that was so big because you're able to get a right tackle like this, who you He's gonna be the starter in the season opener. So that was a really shrewd move by Ryan Pace, which are words I don't think I've ever said. Before. Oh shots, fine, talk get Fields? Is that what you're saying.

I'm saying they went to go get Fields and they didn't give up a second round pick, this pick that they're able to turn into Tevin Jenkins, which is an impressive move. Now they gave up next year's one, obviously, but still, let me ask you this trying to save your job? Is that is that is that when you're giving up next year's one and you're a general managers got wouldn't foot in the parking lot with the U

haul out there? You know? I saw one of the one of the big networks was talking about like this is the guy they love, this is they just felt a certain way about Justin Fields. I'm like, maybe, but also, don't they know they're all fired if they don't hit on somebody else's fault or somebody else's problem. I saw that line from you last night. Yeah, by the way, the Bears traded up for this picky to get in front, or they traded with Carolina to get this pick. I'm

still looking for what the compensation was. Nobody actually assumed talking about two and then something because that's where Chicago's where they were. So they've traded up twice. Now, they traded up to get Justin Fields, and then, like Dane said, they didn't take their second round pick away that fifty two, which is of course premium enough to get up and

make a trade to get Tevin Jenkins. So all of a sudden, the Bears, after making the playoffs, now have a seemingly found their quarterback, seemingly found their offensive tackle, and at least at the moment, doesn't look like they've really given up a whole lot to do so. No, I know it sounds like I'm beating up Brian pace, but the reason the Bears are where they are is because they've missed on a lot of those early picks.

First round, second round, and you know time will tell, but it's justin fields and Tevin Jenkins could absolutely not work out. But I think where we are right now, there's at least some optimism with both of those selections. For Chicago. The Falcons pick is in. It's Falcons Lions, Giants forty nine ers and then the Dallas Cowboys at forty four. Goodell is at the stand right now. I'm sure he's about to announce the Falcons selection after this.

I kind of want to get a heartbeat, kind of feel where we're standing whenever it comes to the Cowboys selection, because I mean, we're getting down to the wires. It'll probably happen close to the top of the hour, whenever the Cowboys selection comes down. And Goodelle taking his time at the stands here with the Falcon selection and he's clapping, Oh, we're probably intro and somebody we're probably doing a bit. Oh you think so. We love doing the bits. We

love doing the bits. Make the pick round, Well, it might be a round the way to these. It could be for the first responders day. I run the risk of saying something insensitive, but I can't wait till it's like the end of the safety Richie Grant out of the University of Central Florida goes off the board at forty and Atlanta breaks your heart again. That's okay. Now we're on travon merriag watch, because now they're thinning the herd on you. Now we're on merriage Watch. Can he

slip four more spots? Or do you just wait a couple more rounds? Mighty mouse, let's look at it. Lea owns a reque still out there, and I think that's a player. This team could be interested in a lot of tackles too, And could you be tempted by best player available? Depending on the medicals on ja Oka orlry Right. Only one corner off the boards so far in this round, being Tyson Campbell, So you know they've plenty of options

here with which direction they want to go. That one hurts though, that that I mean, that was your top safety, right Dane right brought us Richie Graham. Yeah he was, but I don't think there's a huge gap between him and marriage and even Holland. But yeah, Richie Grant could just do everything on the football field. He's an old man though he'll be retired in four years. People harp on the twenty four years old. But listen, Terence Newman,

he played like Hill. He was fifty sacks. I think it means he's ready to come in, step in from day one and make an impact. So he is a good player, uh and he might not be elite in anyone area, but he's pretty good across the board. And those type of types of guys usually stay in the NFL for a long time. And which we I know, Jeff, it's all about you, I get it. Well, No, it's not all about me. It's all about me and you

and Dane and Brian Kyle. It's not about Dallas. This this hurts It hurts me because I think he's he's yeah, he's top five for me, like maybe Jay Okay, I like him betterbody, he's one my faves. But I don't think Dallas felt that way, at least not as strongly. I think they like Travan Merrick better. Yeah, so what are you doing doing the me thing? You should be happy about this. This doesn't hurt you. This is fine. The Cowboys didn't mind, dude, I mean it doesn't. It

doesn't hurt me as much as I think it hurts you. No, I'm okay over here, all right, we got a lot of good football players day, and we're gonna work this out. It's gonna be fine. Yeah, I definitely think so as well. We're gonna go ahead and step aside because that Cowboys pick is going to be right up near the top of the hour. We're gonna take our third break and we're gonna come back. The Cowboys are just three picks

away from their second selection in the NFL Draft. You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. There we go, there's the clear back on the Internet side of things. Kyle Yomas, Jeff cabin All, Brian brought us, Dane Brugler, and David Hellman here with you throughout the entire two hundred and fifty nine picks of the NFL draft. Lots going on here, gentleman Brian, Where do you think

the Cowboys are looking right at this point? Yeah, I think that this board has fallen. If if, in fact that they like the TCU safety mark, I think that's the direction they're gonna go. You have to determine Okay on their board, and you guys rank him, how would you have him? Moulden, os Urique, and then maybe you know Osai? How would you have those? I mean that seems like the names that we might be looking at

right now. How would you have those guys rank? I'm weird and Osai's the top one of those names, but I don't think he. I don't like the fit here. I think Marik would be the most likely fit. I like Marigan owned Zerick. Most of those two options of those names. Give me the names again, uh Marek, os Erricke Moulden, and then Osai Moulden would be my top one out of all of those. Actually, you would you play him at safety or corner for this team? Safe safety? Right? Yeah?

I think for this team's safe. See, this could be you remember Dan Quinn and his deal when he you know, and you know the Cowboys got the kid, now Kaze, you know this Molden could be the guy that, all of a sudden is that slot corner type guy that you put at safety like he did with Kazi at of San Diego State. So he's so easy to like as a player. Yeah, I mean it's one of those He's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, but he is just a really good football player who understands what

the offense is doing. And then his reaction quickness and his smarts that allows him to play in the slot, that allows him to Now he's a small margin for error because he doesn't have that makeup speed or the length that you want, and he's pretty specific with how you're going to play him. But yeah, Elijah Molden is just an easy player to like here in the second round. By the way, while we also have a couple of moments, I'm going to get these live reads out of the way.

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Parsons back at twelve. We haven't even gotten to talk to you guys about it a little bit, I know on the Dallas Cowboys side, not Millerite. Mill was great, that's always fantastic, But what about the Parsons pick? Just quick synopsis of what you thought overall the trade down the board. That's a big one too. Levion Serique defensive tackle out of Washington goes to Detroit at forty one. The Parsons thing. I didn't love the pick. I think for me, he was like the fifteenth or sixteenth best

player in the draft. But part of that is because I ding you for being an off the ball linebacker and I think he has to develop. But as far as being a game wrecker moving forward, like he's got that.

So the idea that you added a third round pick after being wiped out on your corners and ended up with a guy that I think can help you immediately with your run defense, I don't mind that adding the third round pick to me made it palatable where okay, yeah, you know, when you start to look at the things that were so impressive about him is when he rushes the passer and how physical he could be and how he's and it's not the sideline to silence stuff, because

I think that's really really good. But he could get sideways and downhill fast, and I think that, you know, and we've had an opportunity to talk to him with the last couple of times, he's like, man, I'm just I'm just a natural football player. I'm just that's what

I am. And you see some of that sometimes because you'll see him he feels like he's guessing at the play, but he's such a good athlete and so fast and powerful that he could get there when he makes like, oh I made a bad read here, but I'm gonna

go downhill. I think initially he's going to be a guy that's gonna they're gonna use him to rush the passer, and they're gonna start to give him some things that you know that with from from Jalen Smith, and if he could take some of the things over from Jalen Smith, then you'll see him out there on that field. I hope he's out there all the time, and I hope he gets to the quarterback often. That's what'll make me feel good about that. Yeah, very much. So the pick

is in for Miami. Will address that and the Azerique pick whenever we get back on the radio side of things. Closing in on our number two of our Day two NFL Draft coverage here on one O five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Miami Dolphins just now selecting offensive tackle Liam Eikenberg out of Notre Dame.

That back on the back end, excuse me of the Lions pick at forty one, as Levi owned Serike defensive tackle out of Washington was taken, so it was Richie Grant, Levi own Serike, Liam Eichenberg back to back to back picks. Right here before the Cowboys pick at forty one are the San Francisco forty nine ers Dan Brugler. The Raiders just traded up to number forty three, so they're on the clock now. The trades have been fascinating here. We've

seen how many trades here in the second round. It's crazy and so interesting that we've seen the Raiders come up here to forty three to get in front of the Cowboys. Who could that? Before? Could that? Before the final? What need did they fire? Safety? Top three? It could be is it a get in front of the cowboys thing or a guy has fallen far enough thing? Because Jok is still there as well. I think you would and look, depending on where you're looking for your needs.

I think that for Vegas, one of those is going to be safety. And so if you're if you're doing the same thing we've been doing, which is tracking them, go and you go, oh, Holland went, that's okay. Oh, Grant went, that's not good, and then you're down to marrig which I think a lot of boards would be that's clearly the best safety left. You could jump Dallas to go get them. I think that's what's happening here with Las Vegas. By the way, that the Raiders pick

is in at forty three. The Cowboys at forty four want to reset things as we do head into our number two. Dame Burgler from the Athletic, We've got Brian brought us, Jeff cavan Off from one O five three the Fan, and then Dallas Cowboys dot COM's David Hellman. I'm Kyle Yeoman's with you leading the group of analysts here and yeah, if it is Trayvon Marrick here, do the Cowboys think about even acquiring more picks or do you just stick in there and pick whoever's your best

player on the board. Well, they'll pretend that that's exactly what they wanted, and no, I mean I think there will be Look, there's there's a lot of really good players left, and again we're gonna keep going back to a couple of the same names. I think in Joka and Adularry as guys that who knows where that stops because who knows how teams feel about them exactly medically. But if you if you lose marriage here, I think

you've got a good group of corners. You've got three or four pass rushers that I think most teams are gonna like. You've got it. Man, If you would let me go wide receiver, I'd throw Rondale Moore at you. But you've got You've got a nice group of players where I think the Cowboys would probably stick there and

pick their favorite corner. If I had to guess, who would those corners be, Yeah, for them, I'll guess that it would be between Well, maybe if you have Elijah Molden as a safety and you consider him, and then I'm just gonna go with the longer guys, So I would say Paulson Adibo and if he had to Metafon will what about Kelvin Joseph. I would love Kelvin Joseph. He's my favorite corner, remaining by far that he's my favorite corner. I think Tyson Campbell was a guy they've

liked a lot. They really wanted him. Kelvin Joseph and i Fiatsu Malafon were both names that I think and these are again, these are guys that I think they were trading up to try to get and that goes back. Maybe they would have drafted or maybe they want a safety if it fell that way. Obviously we've seen this run. If that doesn't work out for them, I wouldn't be surprised at all. I would love it if it was

Kelvin Joseph. I mean, you've got the wild card of you might just have to tell him Monday through Friday, like, hey, man, don't worry about coming in, just you know, meet us in the city, were playing, and let's play football. Because his two college coaching staffs didn't really want him around. But the dude can play football. Why didn't they want him around. I wasn't there, but Dane, you want to

take a shot at explaining it. But I mean he transferred out of one place, and my understanding is when he opted out at the end of the year at Kentucky, the coaches were pretty happy about it. As you say, if you got to like get out of LSU, if if you gotta transfer out, then you must have done something wrong. No offense, guys, that is so true. Uh And then yeah, I mean it was to a point where the effort level dropped and the coaches basically said,

why don't you just stopped out? You know, it's just uh, I can't have you standing around out there. Let's just move on part ways and you know, it is what it is. It's a weird season. Um he Kelvin. Joseph is not without his faults, but as a player, I think he's really talented. His eye disciplines a little bit of a mess, but as a physical talent and athletic talent,

he is outstanding. So it's at least at the moment, we're thinking it's down to Merrig and Joseph here, or maybe I'm saying Joseph, but that's who we would want right well, yeah, if we're looking at the okay, I mean if I would also throw in Boogie Basham, Joseph Osai, maybe even Ronnie Perkins. There's there's a lot of good players available. It's just see which one the Raiders take

off the board for you. And if it's Merrig, I do wonder do you guys think No matter what the Cowboys tell us that they got blindsided twice, yes, I don't think they'd admit it. I think they would say they tried to go up. Does this count is getting blindsided?

If I think if you get jumped one pick before you thought you were going to pick a guy, well, re safety's being off the board in the second round, and the moment Vegas looked or traded up, that was the name that like, Okay, they're coming up in front of the Cowboys for a reason, and Mary is that reason? Tell us about Trayvon Mary and what the Cowboys missed out. By the way, the Cowboys are on the clock here,

they're presented by Miller Lite. So at forty four you lost a couple of your guys right up leading into it, and now you got a decision to make. But tell us about Trayvon Merrick really quickly. Dane Burglar Range you can play that single high role where he can play either sideline, former wide receiver and corner in high school and you see that with the way he plays safety. You know, obviously a local product here in DFW and

a really good player. And it's you know, we'll never really know for sure if the Cowboys would have drafted him at forty four, but safe to say he was on the short list of options. Brian, what do you think about marig and where did the Cowboys potentially go this direction? Yeah, I think, and I think Dane's got the player completely right. So you know there's like I say, could you go with the corner. That's something that they've talked about a bunch last night. You know, you're trying

to maybe find a way. They said, heck we were if the quarter was on the board, we would take him. So I think they went into today with a plan of hey, let's go and get a quarter. They obviously maybe Campbell was their guy. They backed out. Now they get down here. Joseph I think is a guy. Everything you guys were talking about with Joseph, I think is a really really good melofm Wu was an interesting guy too because how long he is Molden. I mean, he

could play a couple of different spots. At least they have options here at corner, and I think that's the thing. Whichever one of those guys pick the most talented one is is Samuel to me, but he's the shortest. Joseph is the one. I think if you look at overall how he could play man, he could he could be specially if you could get him to go in the right right, and mister Drew Pearson going up to the Oh he's back. Oh true is don't do anything wild, Drew.

You can't want up what you did. You say, Yeah, he can't talk a Hall of Famer now, so there's not as much anger in your heart. Like I think, you just make the pick, we won't be able to hear it either, right, well, I just I think once you've given hat away, like it's not Philly, you won't be able to feed off the crowd you got into the Hall of Fames. He're a happier person. I think this is the time to just play it straight up and say, hi, everybody, I'm Drew Pearson. I'm a Hall

of Famer. It's funny, actually that's the pick. Yep. They whenever Dallas came on the clock. Here no tray Von Merrick, no Richie Grant, couple of corners available. Drew Pearson announcing the pick. In the second round of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, with pick number forty four, the Dallas Cowboys will select Let's go BPA take Joks player, figure out the medical later on as he's ager, Larry figure out the medical later and just give US one player

Best Player Available. Drew Pearson Hall of Fame Drew Pearson continuing to take his time. Look at Cleveland, man, that's a lot of peatile city. Fantastic. You like that city, Dane, It's beautiful thing. It's a decent city. That's the muni a lot right there. What's the muni? That's a golf course and place. There's a look inside the war room, by the way, as the decision has already been made.

Drew Pearson's getting pumped. Is he's going fast? He is yelling, we don't need the volume up, no, if we can feel it for you can see the reaction in the war room with the cowboy. You look at the all they're all laughing. Mike McCarthy's kind of cringing a little bit. I think, well, that's because he's wearing a suit. I want to be in that Oh come on, you can tell every time he's at a bresser he didn't want to be in that sit. Does anybody like wearing a suit?

Come on? So here's the pick with the forty fourth selection, the Dallas Cowboys select. He's reading the card. I mean, we knew that, gracious, So he's selling some plumbing supplies to Kelvin Joseph. Let's go boss Man Fat. Boss Man Fat, first of all, is a great musician. Check out his YouTube channel. And on top of that, he is a heck of a corner. Six rap albums out there, Yeah, and they're all good and they get better. We do the interviews. You call him that when he when get

them on the phone. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll say hi to boss Man Fat. No, he's I mean, I just I think that his tape was first round worthy, and I agree. You know, if you were if you were willing to or comfortable with um who he is and practice habits or whatever it was in college at both LSU and Kentucky, that didn't seem to go over well with coaching staffs. That dude's a baller. So you didn't

get to take your corner in the first round. So the Cowboys are doing the Blue Star Special thing where they're looking around the room and going, hey, that Kelvin Joseph's really good, and somebody else's like, right, but are we ready for the other stuff? And somebody goes, I don't care. We didn't get one in the first round. Let's take a first rounder in the second. So you get Kelvin Joseph. He's a dude, he is a good player. So I don't know how much I telegraphed it, but

I had an inkling. I had an inkling this guy, this guy was on the short list of guys that they were targeting. Great to Dave Elman because he did mention it to be before the we even went on air that Kelvin Joseph was squarely on the radar. This guy was one of I think Travan Merrick was one of them. Maybe Richie Grant was one of them. Tyson Campbell was absolutely one of them. But Kelvin Joseph was on a short list of guys that they were targeting tonight.

See Jacksonville helped you out, got Campbell out of the way, made you pick boss man fat, and you got the better player. So it's gonna be great. What I did was, Brian, you know this. You know we went to LSU twenty years apart. Sure, we got some friends down there. I did my diligence this morning, because you know, Kelvin played his first the first part of his career at LSU. So I called her everything everything y'all just said is is accurate. I do like he I think he's gonna

need some help. I think this is a guy that has off the field interests and is an off the field focused player. He's got a budding rap career, if you want to call it that, boss man fat Um, you know, I don't you know you talk about see you said, don't worry about Monday to Friday. I think that is an absolutely awful idea. I think this is a guy Monday to Friday. You need to make sure he's in the building, looking at tape and doing the

things that he needs to do well. I'm saying, his worst case, you just tell him, hey, you know what, I don't want to deal with all that. We'll just see you on game time. We'll point out who you're covering. A great idea. Everybody wins. Having said what I just said, you know you talked about LSU was you know, happy to see him go? That's not completely true. I got

good reviews back. Like everybody in the program over there likes Kelvin Joseph like said, he's a hard worker and a good kid, like all around, like not not a you know, for lack of a better word, like not a scumbag. He's not a criminal. Yeah, he's He's not a bad person. He just probably needs some help prioritizing

football among other interests in his life. So I'm just I dug around a little bit this morning when I had an idea that he might become a Cowboy, and I felt better about it once I got done doing that. I do he comes with some challenges that I think the Cowboys are going to have to be on top of. But it's a it. Like I said, I heard good things back and just talking about the type of person

that he is. He has more rap albums than he does career interceptions, like it's just one of those things that everybody rap albums and any of the corners picked in the top ten, you know albums. He's not a guy that's talent wise you're worried about. It's just, yeah, everything that Dave said very eloquently, thank you. It's he's a good player, and so you know he's gonna come

in and compete for a starting job right away. By the way, the Jaguars at forty five took Walker, a little offensive tackle out of Stanford, So the Cowboys get their linebacker in round number one, to twelve, and then at forty four they go with Kelvin Joseph Corner out of Kentucky. Those are the first two picks out of

eleven slated for the Cowboys. What's next? Though? You got your Corner out of the way, Seemingly you hope that he could potentially come in and be a sort of by the way, I mean, Dave, you said that you kind of mentioned it how he was telegraphed by this coaching stafford, by this front office of maybe being on that like on that target list short lived. I don't think they telegraphed it. I was trying not to telegraph

it because you never know what's going to happen. But I just I had an idea you had in England, being decent at my job, that it might happen. But you remember back whenever we were talking about Pro Days and where Mike McCarthy was going to Pro Days. Didn't Mike McCarthy go to Lexington? Didn't he go to the Kentucky protect me on the spot. I actually don't know. Yeah, I want to say, yeah, Kyle, he was all up in there. I was studying. I at least I'm not

exactly man that's how you tell it. That's how you don't telegraph it. You don't put the coach or the DC on the zoo call. Know we know Jeff, Jeff loves it, which is fine. What do you what do you? What do you think about this pick? Brian No, I'm I'm totally okay with this, and I think Jeff is absolutely right about it. I think this guy's got first round traits all over him. And this guy will line up on both sides of the field. He'll cover in the slot. I don't think he's afraid as a tackler.

There's several times where he came forward to get his man on the ground. Again, his numbers won't show a high volume there, but the effort is really really good. I think he physically, like we're talking about, he looks the part and he'll cover the best guy. Now, the problem he'll run into is like and everybody happened the sec he had to carry Kyle Pitts one time and Pitts took him on a double move that was a seventy yard touchdown. So you know to me, but that

that happens. This guy's a smooth player. He could turn, he could run he has no issues there. The law long speed's really good, He's able to carry some receivers. I thought, you know, other than the one time with Pits, but I was pretty impressed by this guy. I really was. I'm sorry that he left LSU, but I'm glad he found him some opportunities to play there in Lexington. You know,

we talk about a lot. I think during the draft process about Rashaan Slater in the tape that he put up when he was blocking Chase Young and how impressive that is. I don't think I saw anybody cover Heisman Trophy winner DeVante Smith better than Kelvin Joseph did so. So if you wanted interception against him, yeah, he battled Kyle Pits pretty well. Pit's got him. Yeah, he got him on an outside stand. He broke inside everybody though, so you know it's it's uh, but I thought for

the most part he fared pretty well. Now, what's the next need? By the way, Bengals at forty six take tackle Jackson Carmen out of Clempson. He's from the Cincinnati area. Is he really? Is that a bit of a reach there? I kind of had a third. I think it's more about who they drafted him in front of. Well, because I think he's playing guard. I don't think they draft him as a tackle. Fair, So you know you're drafting him in front of what Creed Humphrey, Quinn, Miners, Josh Myers,

Davis Mayfield. You know, I think based off of what we thought of him. Yeah, a little bit of a reach. But the Bengals don't care what we think. That's a good point they should though, right, Jeff, No, no, no, no, no no. Team shouldn't care what we think, but we shouldn't care what teams think. You know, you got to stay true to you, Kyle. Okay, I'm trying, I'm learning.

I'm only in year two of this. Yeah, if the Cowboys draft a guy with their next pick that you have graded in the fifth, what you do is you say that was a terrible pick, and then you know, the Cowboys will say, well, this is what we thought of him, and we had professional scouts in a front office, and you're like, yeah, but I got a laptop and some all twenty two and you stick to your guns and you say, hey, great pick on Kelvin Joseph, bad job on this one. Look, this is this is a

tough question. But if you had a rank Michael Parsons and Kelvin Joseph strictly on talent, nothing else, like not take even like technique out of it, the technical side of the game, off the field, medicals, all that, take it off. Just pure talent. Michael Parsons, Kelvin Joseph top fifteen, both of them. I was gonna say, top twenty. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think they're that's fair to say. It's really exciting for me to hear that. That's a really interesting way to look at these two picks. Can

I can I? Can I take another direction? What do you got? What if I told you could have Slater or in Bolton as your two picks, you would do this? Could I do Slater and boss Man? Fat? Yeah? Can I have just slap idea? I'm just the fact that they took a linebacker. That's why I threw him in there. Oh, I just I would take it this way. That's how much I like Joseph. Oh I love Joseph. I'm just saying, though I love this is what is slate? What would Slater at Bolton do to your attitude right now? About

this draft? For the cowboys. I think. I like, so let's go ahead and stop step aside for just a couple of seconds, because we do have the newest Dallas Cowboy on the phone is Kelvin. Joseph Corner out of Kentucky is on the line, and Kelvin, first off, congratulations, you're the newest Dallas cowboy. What's going through your head right now? Thank you? I'm just I'm just blessed right now. I'm just living a moment, thank you God and so and then joining with my family. It's been a long road,

long journey, and I'm just thankful that Dallas believing. Hey, Calvin, congratulations, man. I'm just I'm curious. You know, there was a lot of speculation that you could be a first round pick. It's obviously it's a bit of a weight from the end of last night to now. What was what was today like? And were you were you hearing anything? Did you have any inkling of how this could shake out for you? They it was It was kind of it was kind of crazy, like kind of over and down.

I started all over like a smile on my Facebook to to drive. Once it started, I got kind of you know, you'll feelings get kind of down a little bit, but I just say faith that I was gonna get called today and pretty good about it. And and right now I'm I'm just thinking my lucky don't and folds just just because a lot of friends, a lot of way where he's saying the tay lju and just I knew like that what sold I was gonna get kicked, and it happened. And God it's boss Man Fat aka

Kelvin Joe. Way to be the other way around, Kelvin Joseph aka boss Man Fat with us here, Um, what was it like with the Cowboys leading up to the draft? How much interest did they show in you? Who did you talk to? All those things? Child boys? Child boys showed a lot of interest. I talked to like the time staff, just from the doctors to the coaches to GM own us. I talked to everybody that And once I went to in the athletes, I talked to the doctor.

We had like two two conversations and I was telling them I'm like, bro, I hope y'all draft me for real and he lade the hand. But like that was just a conversation behind closed. Like I wanted to go to the caliboy. Yeah, and they had a lot of INSes in me, and I'm pascious for it. Boss Man. We're going into the studio tonight to drop an album. Here, there's something we got. We got some tunes in heart. We're right there. We're feeling it right now. I'm feeling

it right now. But no, just and it was right now. I'm just gonna enjoy them over with our family and get ready to go to Dallas. They put put their rook can Hey, Calvin real quick. I mean yeah, I know you want to, you know, get off and celebrate and have a great night. But obviously spent a long time in the SEC. You're coming to Dallas where you know your partner at cornerback is another SEC guy in Trayvon Diggs. Do you do you know him at all? Do you have a relationship. You're gonna reach out to

him just out of curiosity. I'm gonna I'm gonna definitely reach out to Just studying his game and just going and this whole processes of the NFL colonists in league right now, the pro days and stuff like that, and knowing his abilities that he can do. He was very versatile from receival to to dB. I know you can put me on a lot of different tips and plus his big other stuff from the dnique. So I'm pretty sure just from little Footwirth and big two different techniques. Right,

we're gonna show clique so we can be drums. Kelvin, Joseph Knewest Dallas Cowboy and cornerback out of Kentucky, picked at number forty four. Calvin, thanks so much for taking some time to talk to us. We look forward to talking with you down the road. Yes, thank you, thank you'll congrats man, congratulations Kelvin, and thanks again of course, Calvin, Joseph and all of these draft prospects brought to you

by Miller Litte. Initial thoughts, Brian, I'll tell you what though, I mean, hey, it's uh, yeah, he seems like a kid. It's well, seems they talk about the journie. Yeah, they talk about the journey here, and you know, and he seems like he's he's just glad the journey's over. You know. He seems like to me, man, there's a lot going on, and but he's one of those guys said hey, let's you know, come in here, let's do some work and you know, he's got, like Dave was talking, a lot

of interest going on outside. But that's okay with me. Just go out there and play football on Sunday and you'll be just fine. Well, we'll see what happens. I'm not I'm not saying he's gonna be a pro bowler, but it doesn't sit right with me. Always when having a life outside of football makes you a bad person. But you know, I also trust again, you know, a Jeff's point, it's been a long journey, you go through

two college programs. I think it's understandable that questions get asked when you're going to invest the top fifty pick. And uh, you know, I'm encouraged to hear that the Cowboys have talked to him through this entire process, and you know, hopefully they've got their hands around this situation. And if they do, I think this could be a hell of a pick. Had a bit of a relationship already formed with him throughout the process. Let's take our

first break year of our number two. You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on a one oh five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Back here on the internet, side of things, And Jeff, I wanted to hear your thoughts on on boss Man Fat aka Kelvin Joseph or the other way around whatever it ended up being. Right, He's awesome. Yeah, Kelvin Joseph is awesome.

I think if you didn't have the questions and the things that we I don't know all the details on in terms of how it ended form at LSU and how to inform at Kentucky, then I think on tape a loan it would be Horn, Certan Newsome and Kelvin Joseph. It wouldn't have been Horn and cer Tan and then Newsome and then your group of second round corners. Kelvin Joseph is in that group of guys. Wow. So just

to me, that's that's the talent that you got. And as Brian tells me, as the great, as Jim Garrett says, Jim Garrett says it, it ain't the boy scouts. YE find the talented players and let's see if we can figure this out. And Kelvin Joseph's super talented. Well, if you're going into this draft as the cow Boys and you say we need some edge on defense, we need we need some edgy guys. We need some attitude. Dan,

They've done that back to back picks. I mean, both of the guys that they've selected, both Kelvin Joseph and Michael Parsons are going to bring that fire, bring that edge, that aggressiveness that you seemingly have been missing on that side of the ball. And plenty of talent. I mean, that's that's the thing that matters more than anything. And so,

you know, it's really interesting. I wondered how teams are going to attack this year when you don't have the thirty visits, the facility visits, you don't have the one on one contact that the combine even pro days, you can't you know, have the interaction. So with less opportunities to get to know these guys, was that going to lead teams to be a little more conservative? Well not

the cowboys. They effect apparently got the answers they wanted to hear about, you know, both of their picks and trust their trusting the talent and you know, time will tell it plays out. By the way, the last couple of picks, Aaron Banks goes forty he ate overall to San Francisco, the guard out of Notre Dame and then the pick prior to that, I mean, the Cowboys already got their corner. But Asante Samuel, junior cornerback of Florida State,

goes number forty seven to the Chargers. In Brian, I know you had a pretty high grade on mister Samuel. I did. And if you want to talk about the corners that might have the best skill in the draft. Just like his dad, this kid, he is his the feat the way he competes. He's just short. That's the only thing that you can knock on this kid, because he'll give you everything he has. I love the way he stays in position, the way he takes routes. He when he when he's on you, he is not going

to go away. And I love I love the footwear. I mean when they get him in camp and the OTAs, when we're all those guys out there evaluating how the players look in shorts and T shirts, I guarantee you he will be the best looking one out there. And then he'll put the pads on him and he'll start to go make plays. That that is a that's a

really really good pick by the Chargers. Chargers having a good picks Charners are like, I need to leave Cincinnati and go work for the Chargers because I'm gosh, no, actually no, We're We're staying in Cincinnati because I was. I just wanted to shout out my AFC team for drafting some protection for Joe Burrow. They got they got Chase last night. Yeah, they trade back and get Jackson Carmen from Clemson tonight. Feeling feeling good about our dynasty

up in Cincinnati forming right now. I like, I like what I like. San Francisco just did a guard here. I mean this Daney, Am I right about this? Errand Banks? I mean, I know there's a lot of people that were talking about Trey Smith and all that stuff like that. This is a big, square, mean guy right there. And Notre Dame has done a great job of putting offensive lineman in the NFL and then having some success. And you know, I mean, massive guy. He's big, he's stick.

I said, he's square. He looks good in his stance, powerful player. You know, he's not going to get knocked over or run over or any of that stuff. He's got that body type in the string to hold his ground. And I just love the way he keeps that defender along the line of scrimmage. He ain't gonna let you. He ain'tnna let you get away from him at all.

The twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one oh five three, the Fan and Dallas Cowboys Dot Com rolls along Kyle Yeoman's Brian brought us Jeff Cavtall, Dame Burgler, and David Hellman couple more picks off the board. After the Cowboys select Kelvin Joseph Corner out of Kentucky. We heard from him a couple of moments ago. They select him at forty four. Following the Joseph pick, Walker Little goes to the Jags at forty five. Forty six, Cincinnati takes Jackson Carmen,

offensive tackle out of Clemson. Asante Samuel Junior, the cornerback from Florida State, goes forty seven to the Los Angeles Chargers, and then the San Francisco forty nine ers come up and get Aaron Banks, offensive guard out of Notre Dame. In the most recent pick, Ron del Moore, wide receiver from Purdue. He joined DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald and company in Arizona. You like that pick, Bryan I do like that pick. He was one of those guys. We have all those I had all the tiny guys like in

one round, you know. And but I was really impressed. If you just said, Okay, we're gonna watch one tape of this guy and said, yeah it was. It was at Ohio Steak as a freshman as a freshman, and I'm like, he is wearing the Buckeyes out, and so yeah, I was. I was. I was super super impressed by him. He like I said, they did. I think they did a great job of getting him the ball and allowing him to make plays. They could throw him screens, swings,

pop passes, it doesn't matter. He can make the defense pay if they don't get bodies to him quick enough because he's a nightmare defender, especially out of the slot. He could slow play a defender, then explode into the route. He sets up the defenders and it blows by him. His colleague, Carters, is play making ability, not a route runner. He also returns some kicks for you too, So nice

pick right there by the Arizona Cardinals. He's a little limited, right, as you said, in terms of his route tree and what you're gonna ask of him down the field. But yeah, I just manufactured touches for this guy. Yeah, and get the ball in his hands and let him create. He's short, but he's not small. I mean after the catch, that's his best quality with that athleticism, that run, toughness. One of the biggest problems is we just haven't really seen him since he has an eighteen. Yeah, he missed a

good chunk of these past two seasons. But a talent wise off the charts. That's this is gonna say. I'm not hating on the guy. He's clearly he's clearly really talented. Sounds like you're hating on him. I'm just he single handedly destroyed Ohio State and then sort of disappeared because of injuries. Like it's not his fault, but I just feel like you got a glimpse of what he can do, but not a full picture. Yeah, and that scares me

for a guy of that size. And to what Dane was saying as I'm watching him this year, and my guess would be, I don't know if produced quarterback is considered good, but holy cow, the number of times that the throws to Rondale Moore were like jet jet sweep action and behind the line and just try to get it to you in any way, shape or form. And so it's hard to get a feel for a guy as a route runner when it seems like the only way they could figure out to get him the ball

was right around the line of scrimmage. Well, think about that Cardinals offense. You know they want to play multiple you know with Cliff Kingsbury, and a guy like Rondale Moore allows them to do that with just the way that you line them up, and it's going to force the defense to, uh, you know, really show their cards and change their personnel cards. Cardinal's a good one. That's funny.

So yeah, look this is a good pick. I know there are several teams picking here in the fifties that are not happy to see rondeal More off the board here New York is coming up to fifty or were they already there is already the Miami trade. Well, punch me in the face, then how about that we could do that day three? Yeah, I was about to say it. Rather now we got a long way to go. So Rondel Moore off the board. I kind of want to reset things for the Cowboys because you got your linebacker,

You got your corner. What's next where the needs lie? Because you have three picks coming up in that third round and they're going to be back to back to back really quick. What are you doing here? Spare me the handwringing about how you feel about the picks, because they're done. They've been made, so they're here. Parsons and Kelvin Joseph are here. But if you just again, going back to my whole thing of like it was, it was a four pick jigsaw puzzle and now it's a

five pick jigsaw puzzle. Two of the two of the biggest concerns have been checked. And I know, I mean, that's not necessarily the number one priority, but those were probably the two big things I thought they needed to do. And it was weird getting there. I don't think anybody saw any of this coming, but they did it. And they've done a nice job of adjusting when they have too, because they Jeff said it initially is the fact that

they got wiped out pretty much twice already. They got wiped out of safety and they got wiped out of the cornerbacks in the first round. Well the second time, Thank goodness. I love that they got wiped out, brought as key to have a project for you. Pick ninety nine and pick seventy five. Where would that get you? Try? Ye? See where that gets us? Are you trying to get a safety? Who are you trying to go? I just I want to see just what it would take to

get back in the second round. Yeah. I don't know that they want to pick three players there. I think they want to pick two guys they really want instead of I definitely I understand that. But I'm just so all right all that which bums me out because all the linebackers I love, I assume are off the you know, the Jabril Coxes of the world and Baron Browning's. They're not going to draft those guys now probably maybe probably they got their cornerback. Okay, but let's talk about who

you doing the trade for? Maybe a tackle Milton Williams. You could get to Kansas City at fifty eight. Okay, that's soon? Yeah, yeah, that you get real quick? What about what about an edge bash them? Yeah? Larie of course breaks my heart. Tell me two gas, give me two of those picks and then go up and go get Carlos basham. If you could get bash them there. I wouldn't be mad about it at all. Packager, package your late third with your early third, come back into

the second, get one of those defensive linemen. You still got a third to play with later on. I don't hate the idea at all. I guess I spent I spent all day today thinking like they got to go up to get their corner they didn't, and and all the safeties I love. I guess Elijah Molden is still there. I would love to have him. Some teams will think a debo might be a safety, so maybe a corner is still alive that could maybe play safety. Are there teams that think melofon Wu could play safety or our

teams late Yeah? See, but Dane, even outside of maybe trading back up and I completely agree with your thought process here, But you could go the other way and say, there are a slew of really good players now that you got your corner need out of the way. Whatever the best player available is at seventy five, at eighty four, at ninety nine, you're gonna feel really good about what's going to be there, because I mean, we've already mentioned that a ton of names that could be there if

there's a lot of names like that. There's going to be some some players at that point in the draft. Sure, And do you want to feel good? Do you want to feel great? See, that's where I'm at, And I think that's what you might be able to do if you make a little move here, and that's what you that's the fun with three third round picks like that. You know you can have some fun with it. If there is a guy out there now, we just don't know how they feel about Osai, how they feel about Basham,

how they feel about some of these defensive linemen. Milton Williams, we know they like, but enough to make a move, who knows. So there goes one of your edges right there. Hey, that was with my mock draft. Oh, I don't like that at all. Dane is so good and I don't like it when in the division, the Giant's gonna get it edge Rusher Aziz Ojalari out of Georgia. They talked about, Hey, I was visiting with some Giants guys about this the night for this was a first round consideration for them. Wow.

They were thinking defensive end and they were also thinking wide receiver. And I talked to a guy who said, listen, what do you know about Ojulari's knee? And I told him, And they were also thinking about Phillips Jail and Phillips from you know that went to the Dolphins. They tried to trade up for him. Yeah, so this is this

is to me. This was a guy that all of a sudden, they're like, listen, we're thinking about him last night, and now they get him in the second And maybe it has to do with the knee problems and stuff like that. Maybe that's something maybe a long term, but what a heck of a football player. I mean, I had a first round grade on him myself. If he's fully held, he's going top twenty. Yeah, I mean, he's

he's such a unique talent, the athleticism, the instincts. He can play the round, can play the pass and for a guy that doesn't look very big, six two to fifty thirty four and a half inch arms, so he can set a hard edge. You know, he he can dip and rip. There's a lot of things you can do with him. My favorite plays from him. We're probably not rushing the passer, but you know how Alabama loves

to pull their guards to block defensive ends. So he's got big old Tay Brown coming around the corner away and all of three fifty and he didn't move an inch like so like he's a really good pass rusher, but man, you got to have some power in your lower body to stop a three hundred and fifty pounder in his tracks, and Ojulari does that. Now you've got Washington on the clock. So if he wasn't going to go to New York, probably not going to land in

Washington either. They've spent quite a bit on their front seven. So now what does Washington do? And back to back Nfcast picks here Dane and the Inkling on what the football team could maybe look at after here? Tight end? Could we see uh like Brevin Jordan and Tommy Trumbull off the board, Pat Friarmouth, those those are options on offense. They love him, They want to get better at tight ends. Why would you try to set me up to talk bad about it again? I didn't know you're gonna do that,

because it's easy. Friar Muth is an old school tight end, kind of doesn't get open and just kind of runs around and catches the ball when you throw it to him and what's stuff? What's the foot ball team? Take? Take more here? Yeah, it's gonna be ja okay, I'm ready for this. Oh, Samuels is all right? I like this. I like this Cosmi. So you don't like Cosmi, that's what I'm saying. He's with the football team now I like them. I think. I mean, he's a good player, dope,

bend your knees very well, catch blockers, all right. This good athlete. Yeah, he's a really good athlete. If he's a great offensive like IM trying to say he's not a great offensive tackle. Yeah, I come from to Culton Miller, like right, and for three years he was awful. I was. He was the worst tackle in football for two years. But he developed I would do a good offensive tackle and that's okay. But what I saw from Cosmi is an incredible athlete that's not there yet as an offensive lineman,

so like he could develop into something really good. Coulton Miller was fifteenth overall. Like this is the second round if I mean, I feel okay about that. If he told me he's gonna about Brian who's just over here, straight, Haydon. Cosmi was my highest graded tackle left so if you were going to take a tackle, that was the guy to take. I'm just here to support Brian and all of his Hayden it's it's it's not hey, I'll be interested. This guy I don't know man Like I say, it's hard.

He just kind of grabs on the people and tries to hold on. Didn't really bend all that well. So it'll be when you guys were watching training camp and he's getting run by, don't just remember your brother, Brian Brown straighter up here to fifty two? What are they doing with the Panthers. They wanted to run down more? But now with him, this was Carolina's pick. Now gave this Carolina to Cleveland? Yes, all right, Carolina. Just teams

in the league that might come take it from Cleveland. Well, okay, we're talking about Cleveland. One of the players at twenty six, not today, Jim Jeremiah, who's a Coromoa at twenty six. I think they would have considered him if Greig knew someone. Iaded to write coremore on my sheet right now, Dane, we'll find out in two minutes and fifty three seconds. You never I don't think you've ever missed a pick. Except for that stiff quarterback that they took at USC

that one year. How dare you suggest that Dane liked that pick. I thought he was gonna cry in the studio checkdown nobody, Dane. Dane the only quarterback I've seen not try to win a game in college football. And that was that was in the middle. Those are the Sasha years when the Browns were just throwing darts and Dane just deflated. Like, remember I walked I remember I walked into the studio and I told Dane, Hey, they're

taking this quarterback for USC. Though they're not. I'm telling you, you're going to carry me the rest of that show. He was devastated. That was before we got a fine tuning on analytics and the Browns were like, man, what a sweet completion percentage will take him? He did? He completely took six minutes to get a touchdown in a two minute drive, is what he did. Yeah. I just

irrationally hated him from that moment on. Yeah, I've never written coward in my notes before, but on that one, I wrote, coward didn't try to win game, not for me. We're terrible at this, aren't we. Oh, the Browns have traded up with Carolina and Dane, you said, you think it's Jai Oka here right, Well, I know that was a player that they were going to consider it twenty six if Greg Newsom wasn't on the board. But the fact that he's still there at fifty two, you know,

it's it's an interesting situation with him. Goodness. I mean, there's so many big name players that are still there, jok Joseph Facai, who we've talked about. If you also want to talk about the premium of what offensive tackles are, nine offensive tackles have gone in the first fifty one selections, and that's the most out of any other position in the draft so far. So if you talk about offensive tackle,

that's certainly something that you could think about. Let's go ahead and take a break while the Browns are celebrating and there's plenty going on in Cleveland at the moment. You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL drafted on one oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Only we didn't actually go anywhere right here with you exactly right, all of you loyal listeners, which Dane Okay, oh yeah, it's right. Here next to me, buddy, Thanks man,

here you go. Um yeah, I figured thanks for announcing. Everybody knows. Wash your hands, Dane. I got a great question for you from uh Twitter listener named John Um Which three names that I like? No? Not Johama showed though, just John shout out to Johnama showed though, dude. Three names that I like a lot. Who you know we're talking about, like who could they pick? Who could they maybe move around for? Three names that I like a lot that I think have a good shot to get

drafted tonight. Jamar Johnson, Yeah, Ronnie Perkins, Divine Diablo. How do we feel about that? And tell me when you think first like would they be in the well? They would have to be arranged for some of these Cowboys picks, right. I think I think Perkins is going somewhere in that late two early three. So does he get to your first third round pick? I don't know. I think Jonnard Johnson's gonna be probably available for at least the first two picks in the third round. Yeah. He just he

won't tackle, but he can cover. The thing is I got Johnson in the fourth. You talked about Diablo I had in the third. Yeah, and who is the other one, Ronnie Perkins? Perkins, Yeah, I have him in the third two. Yeah, I think he could go this round just because you know, past rush gets pushed up. But possibilities in a trade up situation, no doubt. Where would you draft Diablo early to mid third. I think that's probably where he's gonna end up going. Okay, that makes sense for him. I

can live with that. Um, I don't, but I don't know. Diablo is more of a He's not a cover guy, right, Yeah. Teams look at him as almost like a linebacker's so and he's yeah, he's not. He's not probably what the Cowboys are looking for. But a lot of those guys are gone, right. I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do. By the way, the Browns at fifty two announcing their selection, and I have a really, really good feeling Dame Bugler's right about this one. I'm gonna love

it if it's true. It might be if they were considering JEREMIAH'SU Cormo at twenty six. Oh man, what a pick this would be for the Browns. You can talk about that defense. The pick has been in for eighteen minutes. It really has and they're they've been making it for five It is jeremiahsu Cormo out of Notre Dame Dame Brugler. What you're scouting report? Uh? Well, is he going to be a safety or a linebacker for this team? Uh? That's the first question. Uh. Oh, I think he might

be what they hoped you Bill Peppers would would have bet. Yeah, you know he's a better player than yeah. Yeah, I mean you could throw on the tape and see him blitzing off the edge. You could see him covering a slot receiver on the next play. Yeah, he could just do a little bit of everything. Now, he's still raw in some areas, but he is one of the most explosive players in this draft. And the medical stuff that Brian has mentioned is a little bit of an unknown

right now. But just in terms of pure talent, I mean, geez, it's a it's a steal at this point, it's a huge steel. I mean, you talk about where Cleveland was in Dave, you and I talked about this off air, just how good of a situation the Browns are in as a roster and how many different directions you can go, even if there is a little bit of a medical concern with Jay. Okay, you take the risk here at fifty two to go and get a guy as talented as he is, or even if the concern is just

like what do we do with him? Well, if you are out, yeah, exactly figure it out. See that's the problem that we've had with Remember the Simmons kid from Clemson last year. Yeah, you know, it's like such a good looking player. Gosh, the film is brilliant and he's running, he's tackling, he's in and then all of a sudden he gets the league and it's like is he a safety? Is he a slot player? Is he a linebacker? Is it? I mean it took him some time before they kind

of tried to figure some things out with him. But I'll tell you what, man, this kid's a heck of a football player for more. I mean, it's a shame if the if the if the situation with the cardiac tests and stuff that they need the information, if that's what's holding him back in this thing, man, what what a shame that is? So obviously if that's Cleveland, they you know what Cleveland clinic, right, Dane, aren't we It's

a shame. It's a shame for everybody for the Browns, you know, because they get a steal here if Yeah, no, what I'm saying though, I mean that's they've obviously got some information that and everyone else is trying to figure it out. This this guy's tape is so much fun to watch. You can watch both nominal those Clemson games and stuff like that that this cat runs and makes. He has a tackle in South been in that Clemson

game where he strips the ball guy. Yeah, he tackles. Yeah, explain this to me, Like I'm five, and I'm gonna I'm gonna do that dumb thing where you compare an all pro to a guy that has n't played a snap yet, But like, why why can't he Why can't he be Jamal Adams? I mean I don't have a Yeah, I don't have a good answer. Why not Jamal Adams doesn't cover? That's not what he' that's not why you know he actually cover? Right? I don't get it. I

don't get it. Jeremiah Wusu Coramoa is off the board the Cleveland Browns and fifty two overall select the Notre Dame linebacker slash safety slash defensive powerhouse I mean all around Dame Brugler. We were talking about it on the internet side of things, but this is just a fantastic pick for the Browns. My talk runs player available. He was my number fifteen overall player in the draft, so wow, not bad. He's really explosive. He's one of the most

explosive defenders in this draft. Can cover. He might be the best Blitzer, not pass rusher, but Blitzer in this draft can play out in space. It's just you have to have a plan for him and in certain personnel packages, and so you have to kind of coordinate your defense accordingly. There are some medical questions, like like Brian mentioned that, just a little bit of an unknown right now. But at this point in the draft, outside the top fifty,

heck of a value for the Browns. I just and nobody listening to this doesn't like the draft, but people mock the draft and like, oh, nobody actually knows anything. Well, the Browns were the worst roster in football for most of the last decade, and right now they're one of the three best. Like topped bottom. Just hard to find a weakness with what they got going on there, and that allows them if there are questions about the medicals that allows them to take a chance on a guy

like this who is super talented. You just might not have all of the information, and so that's what you try to do. You try to fill out your roster so you can take swings on good players, talented players who might have a few question marks. By the way, the Titans take tackle Dylan Redunce out of North Dakota State, second North Dakota State player, taking of course, Trey Lance

goes number three overall to the San Francisco forty nine ers. Brian, I know you were really high on him early on, right, I mean you were quick to Redunce and what he brought to the table. Yeah, I sure was. And you know, and again you're the tape. I mean that program up there at heck Dane will tell you that they make a living down here now North Dakota State and the way that they the way they show up in these these championship games and stuff like that. But I was

really I was suppressed. He's undersized weight wise, but it allows him to play light on his feet and this movement is outstanding. I don't see he wasted steps with him. He could get on his guy quickly he comes off the ball, he climbs that guy and he's but I think, you know, he's much better than the guys he's playing against. But you know that's not his fault. I mean the shield, the angle, the dry block. He could get movement, but

when he gets to this guy, it's over. I mean, like I say, the fluid, the way he moves from the live scrimmage to ease all that stuff, the base body control. This guy doesn't play hurried at all. I mean, everything is very controlled, very measured. But he has had ability to kind of sit down on you and take you out of the play. So I like with the I like the pick here for the with the Titans, they had need a right tackle and this guy's a glass eater. Uh you know, he is a guy that's saying,

oh the toughness. He is one of the meanest guys in the draft, nasty player. After the Isaiah Wilson debacle last year, the Titans drafted him to play right tackle. They go with the guy that's a complete opposite in

terms of, you know, the football character and things like that. So, uh, you know, I think that we're gonna say Raydon's step in pretty quickly and be the right tackle for the Titans towards a c l early in his red shirt freshman year, started every game since, So if you have an injury issue, don't because he started every game after that. And then he arrived at North Dakota State at only two hundred and sixty five pounds beefed up to three

h four. Is that right day? Yep? Well, he actually got offers from Missouri and some from some Power five teams, but he stayed loyal to North Dakota State, who were on him early and stayed with him the entire way instead of bolting on signing day. He stayed true. And so there's something to be said about that. I want to go win some rings, you should probably go play Bison, right, you know, I mean it's it's it's Alabama and it's North Dakota State. You're probably gonna end up with a

ring two or three. They play here in Frisco a lot too, by the which I believe it's Bison, not to be that. Excuse me, sorry, I got my Texan and which gets me being that, by no know, if you're ever in Frisco like out and about. But there's so many Suddenly there's a weight at a bar that you used to walking right into, and it just like, guy, it's come on with all the green. I used to I used to live right over by scruffy Duffies. They were there all the time. Shouts out to the Bison. Yeah,

the Bison, like almost with a z. Yeah, Bison. It looks like it's like Green Bay or something with all the green. And that's true. Hey, they like the yellow. I'm green up north a little bit. Indianapolis is on the clock at fifty four. I mean, still plenty of spots to go until the Cowboys start thinking about their next three picks seventy five, eighty four, the pick in which they got for trading back to Micah Parsons at twelve, and then they've got ninety nine coming up in the

third round as well. I know we don't cover the Colts, but I thought it was really weird that they passed on in an opportunity to draft a really good offensive tackle last night. Was there a really good offensive tackle there? Derrisau was still there, was he not? Yeah? He was? Um, that's that's fair. I don't know that they obviously, we

don't know if they thought good. Yeah, good point. So but with with Costanzo retiring, I know it's never as simple as just connecting the dots, but probably want a clean pocket for Carson Wentz because things are bad when he doesn't have one. Well, and it might have come down to do you take the left tackle here or do you'd go with probably the best player on the board, which is likely Quitty Pay you know, a guy we

thought could go top fifteen um his pass rusher. That's that's been a need of that on that team as well. So interesting decision there, And what do they do now at left tackle? Is there another left tackle they could go? Uh? You know, cause me Raidins. We've seen a bunch of Walker Little, We've seen a bunch of the tackles come off the board. Is that run completely done? Brady Christensen still there? Yeah, Brady Christensen would be my next best guy. Yeah,

that's that's my best tackle too. Chris Ballard loves athletic testers, and Brady Christensen certainly checks that box. Yeah. Ten different offensive tackles have gone I mean, top eight guys on my board, and then Jackson Carman a little bit further down, Jalen Mayfield in that conversation as well. Maybe he's kind of a tweener. Yeah, yeah, I mean he only played tackle in college, but I think he's a guard. Yeah.

Good point, Brady christians In, Like you guys mentioned, trying to think down the board a little bit more here with the next couple of picks, because the Colts go at fifty four, Steelers at fifty five Seahawks, which, by the way, that's a pick from the Cowboys that they actually grabbed fifty six fifty seven from the Rams. The Chiefs hold fifty eight fifty nine with Cleveland, and then

the Saints at sixty. As we await the Colts selection at fifty four, how are we feeling right now after the first two picks of this draft for the Cowboys? Is it's actually Vanderbilt defensive in help me with the saying here, Dane Oh, dangbo A dangbo. That's a lot easier than I thought I was going to be. And this is a this is a basically a future pick.

Because he tore his achilles in January, I'm probably gonna miss a good chunk of the season based on talent alone, this is a player that you know, we would have been talking about as maybe sneaks into the first round. So here we are. It turns out doesn't doesn't hurt him too much. He ends up going fifty four overall. He could end up being the best three technique in this class as a guy that kind of played you say,

mostly edge at Vanderbands. Yeah, but like watching him play when he gets to the interior, I'm like, who game ten pounds and that dude might be a game wrecker in the NFL. Yeah. I felt so bad for this kid. He's the best player on a defense. It's always under attack. You know, what does it mean? Oh no, they're they're always on the field. Hey, what does that mean? It means they're getting pummeled by better teams all the time. Everybody's always under a ten and he's the one that

commands the most attention. And the first I watched the Old Miss game and it looked like he finally had enough of his teammates. Seriously, I mean he's like looking at them like, you know, they give up a touchdown. He's looking around and he's probably saying, listen to hear you, m effort. Somebody needs to make a play out here, Like Marcus Peters back in the day. Yeah, I mean he is. Seriously, I don't think Vanderbilt won a game a game last year. I don't. I don't believe they did.

I don't think. Yeah, they got fired. And again, this kid, he's from Irving, Texas. Eric good for him. But I'll tell you this though, like I felt sorry for him because he was always fighting. He just kept fighting. And you know, but for a tall guy, he's got some redirection skills and stuff like that. Get up the field, come back down, he can make the play. There's some snaps where he was just a little late getting to that quarterback, but when he does get in the position,

this cat can finish. Hey, good for him Indianapolis. They'll take care of him, even with the adversity that he faced in terms of the teammates around him. I mean, those are good numbers that he put up one hundred twenty five tackles, thirty one tackles for loss in his career and then twelve sacks to go along with it. And I mean we've heard of time and time again from scouts and Bucky Brooks. Brian brought us and guys

like that on the Draft Show. But if you get in the back yield in college, you're probably gonna do it in the NFL, especially whenever you didn't have a whole lot around you to work with against your competition, he was able to still be still be able to produce, and I think that's something plus. Hey, like you said in the shadow of the old Texas Stadium at Irving, Texas, Carrollton Ranch View product, that's fun. Here's a tight end off the board, only the second one to go. Of course,

Kyle Pitts went at four. Pittsburgh selects Pat Friar Muth out of pin State Steelers. This is like a very nineteen ninety two draft. Nagy Harris in the first round, Pat Friar Muth here in the second walking tight end that didn't really get open. I kind of hate it, if I'm being honest. I said it's gonna be the next pick, getting ready. They should have just thrown literally two darts at the offensive line board and pick two of them and they'd probably been better off. I feel

bad for Nagy Harris. Hey, we want to run the ball better, so we're gonna pick a running back instead of fixing our line. At least they picked somebody who could block, block for him. Yeah, the block form the theme of the first two picks. They have a small window here with big Ben, and they're going for it, and it's short sighted. It's probably not the best long term way to do this, but don't be honest. Okay, No, this is genius though, because Ben also is terrified to

throw it more than four yards down field. So you get him a big tight end and a running back, so he's gonna have ninety receptions didn't have Probably they know their person up. Those are some of my favorite numbers. Was like, the the average depth of target for all the Pittsburgh receivers is like last in the league, second to last, third to last, So Pittsburgh, good luck. Hey, they resigned Juju though, so that's good. He's real good at running a one yard route, so that that that

works great. Sometimes you're afraid to move on from your quarterback. You know that's happening. I also call quarterbacks washed and then it doesn't work out. But Ben's that Ben is washed? Would Ben be washed if he had an offensive line that could do anything for him? Yeah, he's just shot. He's old and kind of fat and can't really throw the ball like he's having a tough time of it.

I don't disagree with you, but for all you folks are listening from Pittsburgh, we appreciate your having out with us. We promise it gets better. Man, we get a quarterback, you guys are gonna be in good shape. I'm talking about listening from around the world. I've seen Australia, I've seen Germany, Saudi Arabia. Really that's awesome. I mean coast to coasting around the world on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three the Fan. We also think all of you from inside the DFW Metriplex as well,

stand up DFWA Metroplex. Now, anybody's surprised with players that are still on their board, anybody that sticks out as a blinking light that, oh my gosh, they're still here. Yeah, Nick Bolton see, and I don't know if that's a massive surprise. He sure, it's just Kinny Cover. Just watch the tape. It's just Kinney Cover. That's that's the question. We don't always round watch the college tape of him getting to college players like that. I think that's a

reasonable concern, to be completely honest with you. I know, forty is not everything. Yeah, but it's a slow linebacker. I don't worry about his speed at all. I don't worry about his speed in any way, shape or form. Well how many times and I said this the other day about this kid. It was on with the UK The UK Cowboy folks over in Lennon, by the way, shout out to them, great James are amazing job. Appreciate

you guys having us. Okay, every time I'm watching his kid play, though, it's like he's like, get there, get there, get there, get there, and he's there. You know. It's like there's plays he makes during a game where you're like, you don't think he has a chance in hell getting there, and he runs that thing down. He doesn't have four to six game speed. His four six that he ranty

isn't accurate to what you see on You know what. Fine, If I was there, if I was timing him and I like him as much as I did, you know what I would do Dave right him at thirty eight how many time? How many yards to get him thirty eight yards? Yeah, hey, Brian, would that kid run four four? Three? Guys? You need to put him up there in the top of that second round there, you know, I hate. I hate to be that guy. And I like Nick Bolton. I watched him. I just it's it's different in the NFL.

Everybody's a little bit faster in the NFL. You see it. If I see a six on your forty time, I get a little nervous. I get a little bit nervous, that's all. I think. There's a lot of linebackers that run four four that if you stand them in the same spot, you're on the same play. He beats him to the ball every play. You I've heard you say that on the Draft show. Believe I guess we'll see,

like it'll be a fun thing to chart. I just and I'm not saying he's a bad player, but I I'm not completely surprised that NFL teams are dinging him if that's why they are, because they're all cowards. No, I mean, would get good football players takes He takes it personally, take it personally, I do. These teams don't care what I think. Hey, Kyle Shanhan said, I might be dead Sunday. I'm just trying to do the best of God. I'm still making it or making it day

to the airport. I mean, yes, you took this all the way down to zero because they were trying like hell to get out right. Yeah, yeah, there's no way, there's no way they want to make this take an edge in this entire ye. There's no way they wanted they were trying to eat up right now. Yeah, let's uh, let's step aside, take our final break. We're going into

our number three. You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one on five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and we're back on the d or the dot com side of things. Glad you're with us. But yeah, the Seahawks taking this thing all the way down pretty impressive, Brian, that they were able to eat this clock up in the middle of the second round. There's some games they wish they could have eaten the clock up that well. But yeah, I think that was

a shot. Yeah, no, like it. Hey, my guy's John Snyder. We know that. I mean John, I love the man, and I you know, we'll see. So he's always has an interesting track though. He always does something like why did you take that? Guy? Well, why not? I'm like, okay, just like ask for shot, Penny, I'm okay, how is he gonna help out Russell Wilson at this point man probably with another running back. Now he's he's gonna take a defensive end here, He's gonna take a defensive lineman.

That's what he always does. Bash him. Could be the pick here. I'm just guessing, totally guessing on this wide receiver. Look for him. That's a good pick too. I like ye wide receiver out of Western Michigan. And you're not gonna You're gonna try to not let Russ cook, and you're gonna run him out there with Lockett, Metcalf and Eskridge. That's fun boy. Russ is about to check out at every run play and I am here for it. I mean pure speed with him, and you know he can

win downfield, catch the ball outside his frame. Uh, He's just a little small, but the speed is legit. Both before and after the catch. He can get open and then put on the after burners and create. So I think that anywhere on in the top seventy five, top eight, he made sense. A little surprised Seattle took him here, but I love it was. He the most fun player in terms of the wide receivers to watch at the

Senior Bowl because he wasn't there him Tony. It was probably Tony, yeah, but but he didn't play a ton right. He was a little banged up on that ankle. No, he played and he practiced the first three days. That's fair, But I mean Escridge was right there with him, and Escridge he dominated and he basically said after three practice, all right, I'm done. I showed enough, and he did. He played outstanding. And all those receivers really played at

a high level, but Escridge definitely stood out. By the way, that's the eighth receiver off the board. Some of the other receivers that you could potentially Terrace Marshall Junior out of LSU A Monra Saint Brown is still available, Diami Brown out of North Carolina, Thailand Wallace, who a lot of people had a third round grade on Kay Johnson, Nico collins Man. There is another such good wide receiver class.

I gotta throw my guy in there to Jaylen Darden out of North Texas, but he's probably not gonna go today. Who what was that? Who? Come on, I'll represent kat not it could have gotten a Mountain Union like you, right hey, Gie fun against the University of Mary Harden Baylor over there. I've watched the tape Simmons Mary Harden Baylor. They played, Oh it's our it's our guy from a guy from Whitewater. Okay, minor he played. I watched the play against a playoff game against Mary Hartman Baylor, m

h Mary Harden Baylor. Yeah, I'll get that right one of these games. Okay. I was looking for the bound bounce house. They didn't have that. I'm hoping we see miners here pretty soon. I think the record for a D three players sixty one, so I'm hoping we hear mine Ali Marpett, No, um, what's his name? I can't remember? Mark Pett was a little bit later, but close. Dan forgot a name. Yeah, ran from the three guy from nineteen seventy four, and you can't think of his name. No, Derek,

if you're don't say that. I don't say that because eventually, No, we need you for tomorrow. Tomorrow over the quarter donuts. So why you do this draft? Where those where those muffins at that we're here? Earlier it was the pretty tomorrow? Yeah, are we getting at the stubs tomorrow? I talked to dal Ripple. He was he's getting maybe I don't know. I don't know. I need to go out to compel myself. Whatever Dane wants for breakfast, yeah, I will go get

because breakfast tacos is Rudy's, Rudy's breakfast. I'll do that for had that before. I don't know, but it's done. Whatever you want, because my plan is to say thirty eight words tomorrow, but I'll be here so I might as well feed Dane. That's right up, thank you? Is it Rudy's breakfast Tacos that you want? Really good? All right? That he's stranded at the hotel too, man, let's not act like he's struggling. He's not at the motel. My god.

Everybody in the hallway's like, oh, that's Dane Brugler. Stay. You can stay at the house if you want to come back and stream and drink whiskey and Miller Lte until the sun comes up and then come draft them up. Yet, nothing going on tomorrow. I got home. I got home last night, market ready. I got a home last night, and I was like, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna update my spreadsheet, go to bed, and I look at my Twitch notifications and it's Jeff Cavanaugh streaming war Zone again

last night. YouTube and Twitch never stopped. You got to keep the drying and it's pretty impressive. While we do have a couple of moments when it reminds you that the Dallas Cowboys Football and Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Dance youth camps are back this summer for athletes and dancers of all skill levels. Save twenty five dollars with early bird pricing now through May tenth, registered today at Dallas Cowboys

dot com Slash Academy. It's our number three of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft coverage Day two on one oh five three to fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Cavanaugh, Brian brought us, Dane Brugler and David Hellman with you from Inside the Star in Frisco. So glad you're with us on both of our platforms. We are at pick number fifty seven the second round of the NFL Draft. The Los Angeles Rams are on

the clock. Most recent picks were fifty five Pat Friar Muth from Penn State to tight end Dwayne Scridge, wide receiver from Western Michigan. What are you saying wow for over there, welcome to the draft rams. Yeah, they're here right thread lest sneeds got COVID Did I see that? Yeah? Yesterday? Oh is he at the beach house drafting with everybody else? Yeah? He locked up in the in the little poolhouse out They got the little coach up. They're making these picks.

This could be crazy. It's gonna be Sean McVay all by himself his hand. I mean, if you're gonna be quarantined somehow, that's all offense. Yeah, just take a wide receiver. That's always the right play fifty seven. There are a lot of wide receivers still laugh. We talked about that on com Cyrus Marshall, Oh, Terrace Marshall, there would be dangerous. It's two. I was gonna say two too, because he's fun, but I didn't know if he would go early. Seems so high for a guy who weighs one hundred and

forty five pounds. You must not be on social media enough. Two two did another way in the other day, and he showed that he had no pockets and his sweatpants shoes and he stepped on one six zero. Two Two's ready to rock. He's up to one six six pounds pound Smith, who everybody thinks is gonna break in the NFL. Yeah, but DeVante's over six foot this is this is five

eight sothing like he's rocked up. Now. This is Sean McVay pick though, Like I look at this and I think Sean McVeagh, I mean brought jump, yes, Like are they about to play this astin for him? This is Taylor Austin. I mean, I think he's more than that because he's he won him going vertically right, and I think he tracks the ball. He's Hollywood Brown. No, no, no, he's he's a good received. I agree with you. I just wondered it's talking side by this Mcveighan McVeigh could

not do anything with Tavon Austin. I wonder if he just picked a similar type of a player, well, like Matthew Stafford can throw it a mile two two, can get behind the defense and run a mile. So his film's fun. By the way, I thought it. Two nineteen stuff was better than his twenty twenty stuff. Um. I wasn't as impressed with his twenty twenty film, but the

nineteen film was. I couldn't tell what I was looking at it was in this COVID situation, you have to not opt it out or in Sean McVeigh has a framed portrait of Goodell in the living room of this house, kidding me, a vacation home. It isn't. Aren't they at the beach house? Maybe that was in the airbnb when

they got there. Said wow, that's two. Two was a really interesting guy, because I believe it was twenty twenty that I was watching, and I went into it thinking I was going to be watching this like four two guys that you got to hit him in the chest and he I was surprised because tiny guys when you don't have to make a perfect throw. I'm like, oh, he's like a full sized person, like out in front of him and above his head and he's able to kind of extend and grab it. He was a more

well rounded player than I thought he would be. Going in like, I thought I was gonna be watching a gadget guy, and I was like, oh, that's a real life wide receiver. Yeah. So our friends on the television, it looked like the comp they were using for him was jachiem Grant, our friend out of Texas Tech from a few years ago. Is that sound? That's why I

called Garden too. I thought he would do mean green right, but two two out, Well, I think he's Hollywood Brown, who was a first round pick a couple of years ago. But you know, he has some drops. He's not the most diverse receiver. But speed doesn't have size obviously, but he has speed to burn and that's really what's the difference maker for him. What were his times? What did he run? I'm trying to look it up at the moment. I think they said he ran in the four threes,

didn't they. I believe it's going to be in the four threes three five, one, four nine split, which is one of the best out of the wide receiver group. Actually the best that I've got written down here. By the way, you don't had the best ten yards split this year. Who boss man fat? That would be keep giving me reasons. That would be Kelvin Joseph. If you're not,

we need to catch everybody up. That would be the Cowboys second round pick cornerback who's awesome as long as he like works hard and stuff, comes to practice, get it right like not like by the end of the weekend, get rid of Garrett. Hey, they wanted to be fast, they're fast. You get rid of Garrett, you get a real football team. You know. I actually I actually thought about this to myself out there walking today about about forty five months ago. I was thinking, No, seriously, like Burger,

you gotta laugh at that one, Huh. I didn't have to live. No, I'm just thinking, what is he gonna do? What you gotta laugh? What's Garrett gonna do with Cadarius Tony, Like, I don't know how it's gonna work having block for Sorry, welcome to the team, Cadarius, show me how you block. It's help me. He's gonna take it. Brown Rule. We're so far we can't even see the road anymore, and we're so far in the weeds. It's funny homes Hey, guy, that's what I'm talking about. Chiefs. That is what I

am talking about. Chiefs linebacker out of Missouri for no Texas draft pick. Got it? That feels say that when the guy we didn't say, oh, Brian, I mocked into Kansas City for you. Yeah, you said he was awful, baby jerk. He's my thirty ninth rateked player. All right, you know what sixth round I'll take them. I'll tie this into the Cowboys and just say that like that. That's the air to Anthony Hitchins right there, which is to say just solid just makes tackles like that makes

every tackle. Oh, we'll see it in the NFL. I'm not trying to hate on Dave's teams. Get this, others don't. I'm not trying to hate. Do you see what sit behind their behind their wall, it's a Super Bowl champs, Yeah, said on their board home. It's not because of any guard for them. Yeah. They they they got Steve spagnulacallon defenses, and they got guys like Nick Bolton coming in their mind.

I'm gonna force y'all to talk about the Cowboys for one second because going back to your point about Jason Garrett, I was thinking about this. You know, we heard a lot of we heard a lot of buzzwords about like culture guys heading into this draft, like changing the culture. Yeah, you can't. I mean you could argue that they kind of did. No, you could argue that they kind of did because in the way of like, these guys got

some s to them. Yeah, if you if you take my meaning absolutely, like and I don't want to say they're not the wrong kind of guys. But like, going back to the Jim Garrett thing, Jason Garrett often seemed like he was looking for boy scouts, right, but didn't you always Jim Garrett said, I'm saying Jason Garrett often looked for boy scouts. Would you say that's fair disrespectful to his father? Not Jim Randy Moss give him credit

for that. These guys aren't boy scouts, and I'm not trying to like applaud them for that, but you wanted that forever, Brian. You were like, give me the guys with the chip on their shoulder, and give me that bad like he's a he's a bad guy. So Jason Garrett's not gonna draft him. Well, that narrative is not here, right may we started talking about, well he's got some character questions, like, well, he's not gonna be playing for us, So maybe maybe we misread Maybe they maybe they just

want some dogs. You know. Michael Parsons was in the he did his introductory presser today and he was like, I hate to lose. I want to beat good at bowling, I want to beat you at chess. So I don't know. Maybe that way he wants he wants to learn how to cook crawfish. He wants to talk to him. Yeah, nice, he says. Maybe that Jeff, He's like, yeah, I'll come to crawfish, boil you guys. I would have learned how to cook him. Let's bring all right, let's He's like,

He's like, yeah, I'm in. What are you doing Memorial Day weekend? I've also said I wanted to learn that nobody's in every day. I have a nice, little passive aggressive it was. It was a little Yeoman's over. He was a little pat right for a while. Kyle. You know, see you've invited me to golf. But I mean, when crawfish comes around this crickets, we could we could crawfish and there's only sounds great to me. That's true. Fair,

I won't but I think you're mean to me. Yeah, I think they've they've got a team that's got some edge. Well the first two pigs. These guys have got some That's that's that point I'm trying to make. Yeah. Now, this is a question from Mark Bristow on Twitter. This is just kind of interesting. He says, better prospect Treyvon Diggs or Kelvin Joseph in terms of cornerbacks selected in the second round. Of course, Joseph was picked to forty four this year, Diggs last year at fifty one. Who

was the better prospect between the two? Where would you rank m T I would say Joseph. I liked Joseph better. Now what about not? Yeah, it's stuff that I don't know, you know, like it's it's true, it's off the field, like where you can't necessarily. I know that his music is good and I enjoy listening to it, so I'm big on that, and I don't like, I hate that the NFL is like, oh, You've got all off the field things that you really like and that hurts your stock.

But at the same time, if I was really running a team, I'd be like, I really want you to only care about football, So I get it. But when you're talking about you know what happened with multiple coaching staff, so like, yeah, that's concerning. But with what I know from watching them play football, I would say that Kelvin josephs a better prospect. Dan, how do you feel about that? That's tough. I think that they're pretty they're pretty closely ranked.

I would probably lean Diggs as a prospect and I would lean Joseph as a talent. If that makes sense, it doesn't matter. And that's what I was gonna say, is I get Jeff's point, but you can't. You gotta take the whole picture into account. And I'd say Digs because he good player who came with no questions whatsoever, Like we didn't have a ten minute dialogue about it.

He just have something recently happened to him. That's I mean, that's an interesting point, and it's that's dicey because like does that bring you into like, oh wait, he sometimes makes bad decisions like everybody else in life. I'm gonna say, I think every twenty two year old rich, any twenty two year old guy makes bad decisions, but especially if you have a lot of money. Sure I don't, but I like, nothing concrete has come out of that, you know what I mean That I've just says two weeks ago,

and I haven't heard a word about it. I'm with you on this, So I think, Joseph, I just think if you talk about talent, if you want you talk about hey, walk over and cover that guy. I'm gonna I think Joseph walks over and covers that game. You're making me like this pick more and more every time we talk about it. If you think he's a better player than Diggs, well, I'm doing radio with you, Dave, and I'm sitting and not sitting in the draft rooms.

That might need you to think about that different. That's true. Waiting on the Carolina pick at fifty nine. This is a pick that they secured from the Browns a little bit early. On Another question on Twitter while I'm on here, how about Cisco as a free safety? This is or actually for Jeff Kavanaugh's purposes, how about Divine Diablo as a hybrid between the two? So Cisco and Diablo, what

do you think about those two? At maybe seventy five? Okay, you got your hybrid guy right already, Keana Neil, Yeah, you got your hybrid guy. Do you we need to add another hybrid? He Let's go get a real true free sac right. He's a solid player, but I don't think he fits exactly what they're looking for. Cisco is just he's just so much feast for famine on his tape, and you know that makes me more sad than a famine. Yeah, you know, like at safety, Marshall, you can't be unreliable

as the last line of defense. Yeah, I wonder why. I wonder why Terris Marshall's going to Carolina. Yeah, sink about who's the OC he's there? Yeah, great point. They lost Curtis Samuel and they had a different type of receiver. Harris Marshall's a better player than Curtis Samuel. I'm a homer. I don't care he's I don't disagree. All three of those receivers are fantastic. If Terris Marshall had gone in the first round, it would have been a good pick.

I think I heard Tennessee really really liked him at twenty two. But there's some medical thing that we're dealing with him. Sorry, his knee deemed okay. We had him. We had him mocked the other day in our second round mock. We had him at sixty to the Saints. So the selection, so, I mean, this is right around where we thought he was gonna go. We're doing It's almost like that sometimes sometimes what do you get out

of Terroris Marshall? Though here Dane, because I mean, like you said, a different type of receiver, But this is a baller. I mean a guy that this is a very wide receiver class that's actually pretty pretty undersized, but he's one of the opposite He's a big, big athlete who can run. He's got four four oh speed, a little unrefined as a route runner, but he could play inside, can play outside, and it's easy to overlook him when

you talk about Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase. He had double digit touchdown catches each of the last two years, which you know is pretty impressive. I know some scouts were kind of put off that he opted out the week of the Alabama game. Uh that the knee was but that's if you ding him for that, you didn't will pay attention to LSU season. That guy went out there did everything. Yeah, well, I mean you're getting crushed by

two LSU guys. Yeah, because we'll pass about they would throw him the ball fifteen times and then he'd make fourteen catches and then it's like they put the whole defense on him and they still couldn't do anything with anybody others. Truth about, you finish the job. Yeah. The other thing that bothered it is just he the effort as a blocker was terrible. But I think as a talent,

it's easy to like this guy. Uh, as long as the medicals are okay, this could be a steel So the n the knee was a concern for you though right day, Not for me, but for teams. Oh yeah, I will. I think it was. I think they played Arkansas Terrists got up and like gave it. But he gave like a speech to the team about staying committed, and then they played and he was like, you know what, screw you guys. I'm not risking my life against Alabama. And I don't blame him one bit. He's actually started

to play it better. Hey, he did it. He did it with true freshman quarterbacks. Last What a miracle season that was. Go go get him, Terriss. It'll be way more fun next year than it was. No struggle to struggle just to get happy. We paid, We paid for twenty nineteen in a big way. Yeah, you want a National champions played for sure? One Louisiana guy too. Who's going to be the newest Louisiana guys? The New Orleans

Saints are on the clock. Let's step aside. You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one on five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com back on the internet side. Just as Roger Goodell takes the podium in Cleveland, Ohio. Glad you're with us here on the draft, Joe Kyle Yeoman's jeffkavan On, Brian brought us, Dane Brugler and David Hellman. I'm gonna read this right as he's reading the pick. Miller Lte great taste, only ninety six calories, three point two carbs. However, you and

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is off the board. Brian likes it. Yeah, yeah, David, if you got him, go ahead, I mean, I'll Werner's uh for me. He's a little bit of a slow burn just in terms of appreciating what he does because nothing really stands out about him. But he just doesn't have a ton of holes in his game. He's not an a lead athlete. He's uh, you know, but he can cover, uh you know, he can blitz. He's a reliable guy, former safety who's just been a solid player

for Ohio State. Played inside player outside. So he comes in as a guy that will probably never make a Pro Bowl, but he's gonna be a solid starter for the Saints, who just love it, uh collecting these Ohio State players. I'll tell you what, Man, this guy has been a safety, He's been a special teamer. He's a superpress of the way he's around player. Yeah, he's a tackling machine. I mean, I'm watching that tape and I'm going, man, he is making every one of these. He's number twenty.

He's a powerful guy. He is not afraid to lay the hammer to a ballcare downhill player when he sees it, He's want to get it. And I think he has a nice feel for how to play in coverage. We always talk about these linebackers that have that can play in coverage, and I think I think the secondary part of being a strong safety and his career kind of helps him this way a little bit. But you know, I wouldn't say he's perfect with the technique, but he

does have awareness. He does have the instinct. But when and when it comes to making stops, if he gets if he gets near a receiver, he knows how to knock the ball the way. I give him a lot of credit for that, I assume based on that glowing review, which I mean, I think he's a good player too. But are you at all surprised that he went before Browning and Cox? Uh? Not? Not Cox? Not Cox. I

think everybody understands what Browning is. Browning is a big Browning is like when the old like a nineteen seventies linebacker. To me, that big, heavy athletic though, But he has just I'm just saying, the bigger guy. I think people are playing with these smaller, quicker guys, and that's why I'm watching these games every week and I'm seeing but guys like Bolden, those guys make plays. Those smaller short

guys run into the football. They can't be blocked. I think with Baron Browning, it's just that some of it is projection. Because Ohio State, Pete Warner and tough Borland were they're linebackers and Browning existed kind of out here in the overhang. But like, I saw good things from him in terms of coverage, explosiveness, blitzing. He can rush the pett like. I like Browning a lot. I did

like Browning better than Warner. But Warner, I think is an easier projection because he's just gonna go do what he's been doing. Who's the other guy? Higher floor, lower ceiling. Yeah, and Jabrille Cox to me, he's a tough one because he cover. It's so much about covering now, and he can do it like he can go cover a tight end no problem. He's a bad run player as a linebacker. That's weird. We'd had a conversation about that on one of the last draft shows, and I hear everything you're saying.

I just think coverage is important in the NFL right now. Who'll go in the next twenty or so picks. That's a wide variance. That's how Wine marrits. It's an end of the second, early mid third. I hear you. I mean that's from now until the Cowboys select pretty much. I mean the Bills, Packers, Chiefs, Buccaneers, rounding out the second round, and then we're onto the third. Cowboys are fifteen picks away at the moment at seventy five, getting

pretty close here here on the Draft Show. Continuing on our coverage of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on a one oh five three The fan End, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Glad you're with us. The New Orleans Saints taking Pete Werner off the board, linebacker out of Ohio State. Brian one of your favorite guys in the draft, Yeah, he was, and I was talking about him as I just love the way he's around the football. I think he plays well in coverage. I love the way he tackles.

I think he's a physical player, you know. I think with Sean that's something that's big with Sean Payton. No, he's he that's when you when you ask him about play, he's like, Hey, give me tough guys, and this is what one or do you put him on the field. He's gonna make plays for you. And and Ohio State, you know their defense is they've always had guys that

come out and made plays. I just I like the fact that he was a converted strong safety playing down there and didn't bat an eye, loves being in the mix, loves trying to make some plays for you. Were right to pick what sixty one right now? Sixty one with the Bills, and we have four players from my top fifty still available. Who are those guys? Carlos Basham Wake Forrest, Elijah Molden the slot corner out of Washington, Creed Humphrey the center from Oklahoma, and Joseph Asai pass rusher Texas.

Is Elijah Moulden falling here? Maybe another case of where do you play him? Small and slow? I don't think it's where you play him. It's just you have to play him a specific spot and not every team has a need there. You know, he has to be that nickel corner, that nickels safety and not every team you know, has that specific need. And so it's just with fewer spots for you to land, higher chance you're gonna fall

a little bit. And I think that's the case with Molden ring with him as a safety or maybe as a nickel corner, could he potentially be going to ask Carlos was just gonna out of wait? Forest goes to the Bills. That is such a Bills pick, But they already. Yeah, so the Bills just want a bunch of unathletic ends. Well a last year Bashim though, though I do. Yeah, it's important when you make a giant mistake in the first round with Rousseau to pick a better player that

he can back up in the second. So Basham can go play and Rousseau can watch. So that'll be good. How did I know you were going to say? And Basham is not unathletic. I mean he's he tested really really well, he said about Rousseau. No, I said Bashla was hating him. A guy, he's just not his go ahead. No, he's not your typically, he's not audilarry where you know that Bendy. I want the capture the corn Quitty Pay. If I'm doing that, I want the guy. This guy's

more like a Rashawn about quitti Pay. Mainly, I didn't love him, and I certainly didn't want him at ten. But if I'm doing that and I hate I really I don't like this edge rusher class like you talk about um. Last night, the Saints drafted Peyton Turner. Sure that was a pen throw where I was like, oh no, this guy liked him. But the Cowboys last because I know the Cowboys. This edge rush class scares me because

there's nobody that I trust. But if I'm going to draft a guy that I don't trust, give me the super bindy athletic guy like Quity Pay. I just I'll take my chance on the upside. Not saying I'll be right, That's just how I feel. Basham got bonus points from me because he and Marvin Wilson are the guys in this class that when they hit someone it looks like it hurts a lot, And I like that in a defensive lineman. When it just looks like, man, that was a lot of force that he just hit you with,

you get bonus points. I will say. I think what made me really like Basham was that he went to the Senior Bowl and kicked a lot of assy. He was really good immobile, and I was like, all right, you know these are really good players like this is you know, if you can do it here, then you can probably do it in the NFL. Fashion was he was kind of a weird one because again you go in thinking a certain thing because I had his measurables and I was like, oh yeah, this dude's gonna be

tossing people around, and he really wasn't. He was kind of pinballing through and not necessarily using hands or length. But you know, he's he's kind of motored up and and just kind of working his way through. And I was like, man, if you could kind of technically refine that and sort of add pass rush moves to it, that dude's got a lot. I would have loved if he would have kept falling in the kind kind of

wanted him to fall as well. There's some really good names too, and I mean Elijah Moment, Molden to Tommy Togi, I, Josh Myers or a center excuse me out of Ohio State off the board here at sixty two to the packers. There's some protection for Aaron Rodgers, right, Yeah. Absolutely ain't gonna get him receiver, are they No, That's what I was laughing at. He quitting, He's gonna retire. I had a text He's just saying, Katie's like, watching what they're

gonna do. They're not gonna get my guy receiver at all. Katie, You're right, and you're listening. I'll say this. You got Jordan Love exactly. I think this is the problem. I have with Josh Myers. I think he looks the part, but athletically, I think he doesn't move all that well. Am I wrong about that day? I mean there's he snaps the ball that he hops into his block. He really didn't move his feet all that well. I thought there were snaps where he looked off balance and he

finds himself on the ground. But there's no smoothness to his game. It's like he hops and then he's kind of like very herky jerky in the way he played. I thought his highlights their role and he's kind of surviving. Yeah, his feet just don't seem to help him all that much, right, I he's one of those guys that you know, finds a way to get stay connected and it doesn't look pretty, but he's he finds a way just to stay connected to his blocks. But I think you're I think you're right.

He's physical, he'll play with power. Uh, you know, he's a better run blocker than he is his pass protector. But I do think the center guard versatility is a selling point with him. Uh, he's well schooled. It's yeah, he doesn't have necessarily the elite physical traits you're looking forward like Frank rag Now, who's just kind of getting the way Belly survived. But Frank just got his fifth

year option picked up, So I was wrong about him. Yeah, he's the guy that played with a broken throat, wasn't God, Dave, I told you to tell you. I went on Raiders dot Com on their podcast. I apologize Tost Colston uh the Coaston Miller. I apologize the Raider Nation for dinging their guy. Good job, Eddie, letting you set the record straight. He did, Eddie. Eddie goes, hey, Brian, what do you

think I said? Hey, by the way, Eddy, before we start this, I gotta apologize the Raider Nation for Colston Miller. Colton Colton Millerton trying to say, is now trying to get the Miller part right? I messed up the other part. One more apology coming. Look at that world champion, Dave. That's a team that knows what they're doing. A good player. I just like y'all just take it personally when teams disagree with you. That's all. I'm just saying. The Chiefs,

that's a good team. When you say, Dave probably favorites to win the Super Bowl next year are pretty good. Smart team, good smart team. Well run well yeah, well run you know what they need? Yeah, they went and got one. She'd a nice, smart and stinctual player, makes a lot of plays. What do they need here, Dane? We can see well they addressed offensive line obviously. With Orlando Brown corner center. Most people agree that he's better than the guy that just went before. Would be one

of those people. I mean, I agree. I Creed Humphrey was my top center this year. Josh Myers is actually my third center. But I think it was created Dickerson as a center. I know he's a guard for me, Dickerson as a center, So I had Dickerson above this guy. Well, with Humphrey, I thought he held himself. The same thing with the conversation with Basham at the Senior Bowl. Same thing with Humphrey. He didn't really have to go, but he went and he played really well. It played guard,

played center. Uh. This is just a guy that from his red shirt freshman year at Oklahoma, he was just different. You could tell watching that Oklahoma offensive line when he was uh, you know, as the central part of it. Some guys you can just tell were former wrestlers. This guy included really smart powerful, uh, stays balanced. There's just a lot to like about what he brings your football team.

So I don't know that the Chiefs necessarily needed him here because of all the additions they made it in their offensive line. But I mean, do you think they were affected at all by how the Super Bowl went? Yeah? Probably. Now they're like, okay, let's make sure that if we lose three guys, maybe even four, that we got a guy will be an actor for seventeen games and then he'll play in the playoffs and help them. Their line

looks borderline incredible right now. Right, I mean, like Orlando Brown playing left, which our guy the probably love guard after this kid signed awesome life for center. But now Creed Humphrey compete for that role. They're getting Kyle Long at right guard. They're getting the doctor back from Cover DuVernay, right doctor, who's that the right tackle? Now, Mike Remmers, that's I mean, you're not gonna have five all pros, right those guys and then right, Mike Remmers. I'll tell

you a lot of shots fired at Mike Remmers. I'm saying it's a professional player. I bet you, I bet you, And it makes me so everybody's just like he's like, Oh, the Bucks proved defense wins championships. Like the Bucks proved you can take advantage of a team with no line. Good job, No, I bet the Chiefs won't let that happen again. The Bucks also proved you can throw three interceptions in a row and not have it hurt. So, you know, let's not pretend that the end result of

every individual game tells us how to build a team. Exactly. Aaron Rodgers gets his thumb out and goes and scores a touchdown after any one of those picks, stamp it didn't played in the super Bowl. It's a good point. They are picking last after they won the Super Bowl, though, and they're concluding the second round with this pick. Here we had Ronnie Perkins in the mock draft. Here is edge rusher, a need four just took trying. Oh, that's right, they did take him in the first I had. We

had him taking Alex Leatherwood in the first. Oh, come on, let liners go here, Ali Marpett and two Division three guys on that offensive line. That'd be fun. Ryan Jensen's a good player at center. But this wouldn't break the record though. For d two, right, because you said it was sixty one. Yeah, I believe it was sixty one. That's disappointing interior one way or the other, offense or defense. Could they take an end? Joe trying the same thing.

I just said. The Bucks brought everybody back, so really it's just about depth and so offensive line would make sense here. Okay, A little surprised, but who said that this is a trade for Aaron Rodgers. This is the final pick in the second round, right, A little surprising. We have not seen a quarterback in the second round like trasker Mond. Davis Mills, Yeah, Davis Mills. Interesting thing about Kellen Mond. I'm a huge fan, big Kellen Mond guy. I'm explained, I do radio with him. He's about to

kill the guy. Yeah, it's called a compliment, sandwich compliment five hours a day. I'm a big Kellen Mond guy. However, if you ask him to throw the bats the hashes, it will be incomplete every time. But I'm a big killing monk. I want to make something clear. I would not want to draft him in the second round, but quarterbacks get overdrafted. If Jalen Hurts can go fifty three, Kellen Mond could go somewhere in there. I just like to see a complete one ball outside the hashes. Davis

Mills is a good player. Guys is a good Please do we think this is going to be a quarterback. I'm just saying, they've got a guy. It's forty six years old. It's probably gonna play another seven years. Yeah, I just want on a super Bowl. Will give me a Lee McNeil, Just give me a Why are you rooting for them to draft a guy you like? And domic ensues he's doing it again and get it the first time around. Look, because how the draft is, we're not all as intimately familiar with every team as Dane is.

So we look at websites to see needs, and I see IOL and IDL, So Interior McNeil take him. Yeah, I'm just surprised that you're rooting for a guy you like to go off the board, because if McNeil's there when the Cowboys come up again, I would's point out, not McNeil, take a bad d tackle here, take a bad old lineman. Take a bad Marvin Wills. Hey, yeah, take Markin who might not say that. I just say, hey, the best D tackle in the country, all of a sudden bad at football. Weird. He was kind of went

back and forth. I mean, I know he played in a different position, but silly silly gooses. So you like Marvin Wilson or you hated sit there line coach standard for the workout right they did? Yeah? I love going to state defensive tackle? Yeah? Did you guys need him to be dominant for all three day? The same react. I didn't even know who you were talking about because he can't be clarify. Did you see him played his first two years or we skipped it? I thought I

gave him. I guess second round grade based office. He has a nineteen film, I mean solid player, but yeah, seventy five or ninety nine? Bring him to me? Did you see him play two years and name? But three years announcing? Is he announcing the film? They put up a lower third. I was gonna have you try and guess who this was. It's machine gun Kelly, Cleveland guy. Yeah, he's a big Cleveland guy. Well, I knew he was gonna pick. What's he doing? I think he's rapping him?

Probably it's like, what the isn't he dating somebody famous? Yes? I think there's like something going on with like Addison Ray or the NFL Draft is only No, that's what it was. Guys, Come on, I said, Addison Ray, that's bad. Um Gun Kelly just do I think he just dropped the mic and walked away. Did he announce the selection? I bet he. He probably just had a cool like Cleveland rap, you know, just like oh the Cleveland Yeah that Ohio, Yeah, I can see that. Dane'll get the

inside scoop. Probably what machine gun Kelly was rapping? What was a guy machine quarterback? When there a quarterback? Oh yea irrelevant, Yeah, Chad Chad Kelly maybe five years ago. Fight report on him? I mean, yeah, there's an automatic weapons situation and a fight at up high school game for no reason as an adult. Okay, the first round of the draft is a big deal. Obviously their ratings were crazy last night, but like this is this is for the crazy dorks like us, like this were you

win championships. But no, I get that, but like, why are they doing all this rigamar role for like casual viewers? As if a casual viewer is watching the draft at eight thirty on a Friday night, Like they're trying to pull the casual in with machine Gun Kelly. It ain't gonna work. The casual fan is watching this from a bar, is what's happened? Let's see if here, how do you? How do you? How do you watching? You can't hear I mean we can't hear each now. To be fair,

we were told not to. Yeah, that's fair, unfortunate. We need to know if there was a rating spike at eight thirty three when Machine Gun Kelly took this. Oh my god, machine Gun Kelly's gonna write an ode to Cleveland. Will Megan Fox be there? Oh my goodness, there's so much injured. Megan Fox. Yeah, so I'm gonna fight together. I was thinking Jack Harlowe with, uh, this is some real This is some real Day three conversation here. Kardashian

was sparker, so too, do you guys out? We are at the end of the second round the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. By the way, one of disrespect, Marvin Wilson, I ruined your show. Sorry. The fan host Zach Wolchuk Uh just texted me. He's killing me for messing that up about Megan Fox and Machine Key. It's Kyle Trask going to Tampa Bay. We thought it could be a quarterback. Here. There's the reason I was in a war room at one time. This is a Mason Rudolph clone. For for

better or for worse. Oh yeah, smiles, Garrett's gonna whoop him. Yeah, I mean I just killed the kid. No for I mean good and bad. I don't do you think Kyle Trash can be a I would have taken Mills ormand over him, right, I mean Kyle trask is. I think the timing is there. He's a smart kid, tough kid. Uh that's kid. But he moves with heavy feet. You know, It's like he's got cinder blocks for feet, and that that really hinders what he's able to do the second

reaction plays. His arm is only average, but you know what, he's into a quarterback room with Tom Brady and it maybe that'll help him well. And he made it. I thought he made a giant mistake because, like you talk about how you don't want guys to opt out, you wanted to finish the season and all that. But when Kedarius Tony and Kyle Pitts and there might have been other guys who opted for the bowl game, that was bad.

I went on the radio and I was like Kyle Trust should not play in this game because what's gonna happen is he's not gonna play well and it's gonna be held against him. Ride with what you've already done. Your ballers aren't playing, you don't play. Joldan. I was at that game, so I never got to watch the broadcast. But was he benched or was he hurt? Was he like, yeah, I think he was Mercy Ruler. I think the team went Sorry, dude, that's ugly, have a seat. He seemed

he seems like a great guy. I'm just I've never been impressed. And I just remember thinking back in December, if they if this guy wins the Heisman over Davante Smith, I'm gonna freak out because you know, and college football does that sometimes where they give the award to the best, you know, the best stats instead of the best player. And were there the stats were incredible. I don't lose that good of a player. I'm sorry, I just don't um.

I mean, and I mean, that's a great place for him. Yeah, he can go learn from the best ever and nobody's looking for him to play right now. But you take away that game where he played without a good players this season looks a lot like Mac Jones. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, no, I get that. I mean that's why he was a Heisman Trophy. Final stats were absolutely incredible, but if you turn on the games, it doesn't look as impressive as the numbers would suggest. Well,

that's just it. Yeah, there's not a ton there to get excited about. I think he was a great fit with Dan Mullen. I thought he his understanding of the offense, his understanding of where to go with the football is really really impressive. I just keep coming back to that lack of mobility as something that is really going to hold him back. It's going to lower that ceiling for him as a quarterback. And to me, that's just you don't draft a quarterback like that in the first two rounds.

If you're drafting a quarterback in the first two rounds, you're saying, we think that you can start for one day. And I just have a hard time seeing an NFL starter with Kyle Trask. Yeah, he's got a long way to go. By the way, that was the conclusion of the second round. First pick of the third round, Andre Cisco's safety from Syracuse. We're gonna hit that. On the other side of the break, you're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one oh five three The

Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. You guys ready for my Cisco scouting report. Let's do it, shared Dallas Cowboys dot Com people. We're friends here, Absolutely, let's do it. Let's get real. You did that on the radio. I mean you made a different noise, but was it What was the noise you made on the radio? I don't know. He went Andre, Cisco has a ton of interceptions, and

I've never seen somebody give up more touchdowns. So I don't know the official numbers on it, but I watched three or four games of Cisco and he gave up at least seven touchdowns. And I'm like, you're my free safety. Nah, that ain't gonna work. Terrifies me. I don't want boom or bust. I want only boom either that or bore me. You know, just be back there and don't anything happened. He's back there letting everything happen. Scouting report. That's Cisco in the books. One way to do it, Dan, What

did you think about? I mean, look, peace or fam and I mentioned it earlier, and that's basically what Jeff saying. Uh, you don't know what I'm saying either. He will have his interceptions, but he's gonna give up a lot of plays. And as as the last line of defense, you cannot have those mental mistakes. You cannot have those lapses and judgment where one false step one, uh, you know, wrong decision one, wrong key and you're giving up a touchdown.

That's that's a big deal when your mistakes are affecting the scoreboard. Sou Cisco, I wasn't a huge fan. It's a little early for him. I thought, you know, maybe towards the back end of round three, that's when you start to think about him. But you know, we're getting to the point where safety's flying off the board. What three in the second round? Now a fourth here, I don't maybe be Jamar Johnson goes and later this round, but not many safeties left in the top one hundred.

Our Darius Washington's just outside the top one hundred though you both know that. My guys, late, you just gotta you have to. I have to wait four years for the payoff to look back. And like that's why I ranked him there because you be like, why is your guy still on the board. You said he's the thirtieth best player, you know, you know damn well that if he has like a great first month of a rookie season, you're gonna be proclaiming your win from the mountaintops. Oh

that's how we were about Antoine Winfield. Yeah right, I just seemed to make the fifty three. Yea, like Sey told you, monster, it's on the team. Did they may like Gillespie safety safety Gillespie. I like him, Adam round guy. Yeah, No, I did like Gillespie. I just it bothered me how he just never made plays on the football. I mean just it's hard to find tape where he made plays in the football. You watch the first ten plays, the Alabama tape if you're like, all right, first round Hall

of Fame. Yeah exactly. But I don't know. I I made the mistake of watching that tape. Like there's like the second tape I watched, and you know, the third and fourth tape. I just I struggled to really love him. I think he's a Day three player. I think he's an early Day three player, like fourth round maybe. See. I actually only watched the first ten plays of Alabama, so I'm hoping the Cowboys get him here in the third. How about the kid from Florida State, Hamsam. Yeah, he's

tough because he's I don't where do you play? Is he a box guy? I don't know that you're really trusting him in coverage. I mean he's kind of like Diablo where you almost some teams are gonna play him a linebacker. Um, he's tough and he's been banged up quite a bit. Hope that he goes Okay? Do you think he goes in this round? I did not include him in my Day two mock draft. He was one of those guys like the first five that I just

left out. So I think it's possible, but it's probably borderline while we're on the pick or while we're on the topic of safeties. Another safety I'd kind of heard that was conversated about around the Cowboys in this area Paris Ford out of Pittsburgh where good Uda. I wouldn't touch that later, I legitimately late, I legitimately if you want to see my board, do you hear him for this team? Check it out a little bit. This is where my board and runs out where the pink ends

and that's four two spots below the pink. That's so bad. That's especially crossing my fingers hoping he's not a pick anytime. Something. I'm kind of hopious. Like the Cowboys, I only got to like one hundred and fifty five hundred and sixty guys, and he's legitimately ranked the lowest of the guys I watched. He's not good. Paris forward Randall, let's go. I'll take John Randall on the team right now. I think so too. That'd be nice. I just think anger will get him

to the football crazy. He was inducted twelve or eleven years ago. Now, yeah, we're into the Hall of Fame. Gosh scouted him. There's another quarterback. Keep drafting bad quarter quarterback. Kellen Mond Texas A and M is off the board to Minnesota at sixty six. So two of the last three picks have been quarterbacks. Dane Brugler, Yeah, and Kevin Mond is everybody. I'm not a big kelln wand fan. I would not have touched him until day three. You know what I'm I'm gonna say, yes, Yeah, I've got

him in like sorry. Back here on the radio side of things, as the draft rolls on here from the Star in Frisco, two of the last three picks have been quarterbacks. We had Kyle Trash going to Florida at sixty four or excuse me, out of Florida going and staying in Florida at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at sixty four. Andre Cisco Safety out of Syracuse goes to the Jaguars at sixty five, and then Kellen Mond, Texas a and m Fighting Nagg's quarterback, goes to the Minnesota Vikings at

sixty six. Brian, what are your thoughts on Kellen Mond? Yeah, I was when we were on the break there. I know Dane was not a big, big fan of this young man, and that's okay. I didn't think what day three? Right? What do you think of him? I had him in the fourth round? Okay, yeah, I mean similar, yeah, so to me. But this guy, when you watch him throw the ball, he just flicks his wrist. Oh yeah, I mean he's I mean, he's got an I'll tee. I saw this kid. This kid stole my heart in a

game at seven overtime game. I was their Lawish game and Hellman were at the game. He didn't steal anything. He wouldn't let his team lose. I know that I gotta give credit for that, But I thought he was gonna be one of those guys. And it's like I thought he was gonna be the next big thing in the SEC after that, and then the following year he wasn't as good. But then you watched they came back

around though I think they were ninety one. They won, they won the Orange Bowl, beat North Carolina and stuff like that. But I think this guy can throw the ball with some touch and some accuracy, and he's not afraid to let it rip or fit it into that tight window. Who'll get away with some throws that he has hope business make it, And I think that's a little bit of his talent around him. Those kids will

help him make some plays. But there's some passes that he throws that won't even be close, and then he'll miss some throws the wide open receivers. But then but then there's other ones where you're kind of going, oh, okay, I see it now, I see it. So you know, I was thinking, like, man, this guy didn't take he didn't take sacks. He stands tall in the pocket. You know, people are all around him and he's throwing the ball. I was pretty I was pretty impressed by him what

I saw. Fourth round guy. But that's my problem with him is depending on which tape you watch, you're coming away with a vastly different opinion. Throwing the Texas A and M or the Florida tape against Texas A and M, and you're thinking, okay Mond, he's got a shot to start in the league. But then you watch, Look is the worst tape that any of these senior quarterbacks have put out there, and it's just like, Okay, which Kellen

Mond am I getting here? There's some Colin Kaepernick to his game, just that angular body type, the speed, the arm. I mean, he could put the anywhere he wants in the field. Uh So, I get why you're rolling the dice here in the third round. Quarterbacks always get overdrafted. We know that. So fourth fifth round player goes in the third Not not a huge shock for here for the Viking. If you put up bad tape against twenty twenty LSU, I'm fair better defense at the end, I

don't want to hear it. They welcome to Houston, Texans. They finally made their way to Cleveland, sticking down in the Brass Valley, going from of course kellen Mond down to College Dation and then down to Houston and the Texans. Do you think they had to fly those fans in the just mean, it's got to be rough being a Texans fan right right now? Is yeah. I feel for Nick Assaria, I feel for that entire organ job. Don't

feel bad for him. Oh no, he got a good deal too, but he waited a long time to get his shot, finally got it, and well, I think a lot of that by his own choice, though, Dad, I think he had some opportunities to leave. Oh no, that's what I'm saying. He was very particular, waited and waited and waited and finally took the job and it's backfired. So we're taking a little extra time here with the Texans start of the night, man, I mean, I know, just a little extra conversation here, Dan, what do you

think the Texans could be thinking about here? Well, Deshaun Watson all of his issues. Take Davis Mills here, I mean, oh, Davis Mills, quarterback of Stanford. I'm a buzzer beater, listen, I don't we don't know what's going to happen with the Shawn Watson. This is basically insurance. I guess Davis Mills to me he was the clear best quarterback after the first round. I agree. I think he's the best middle of the field thrower in this draft. Uh six four,

two twenty. He's got a good arm, he's a loose passer. Just really there's two things working against him. The left knee was an issue, right, and then he has eleven starts in his career and that's well below average with what you want because with a quarterback position, the more you've seen, the better you are. And so it's gonna take some time for him. But he's got skills and he's got talent, and so I would have rather rolled

the dice on him over Traskermond. But Houston Texans, with your first pick you have, you have so few picks in the draft and use your first one on the quarterback. What what does that say? Yeah, I'll tell you what. The body the ball comes off this guy's hand great, naturally. Yeah, and there's a there's there's no problem with that. He's got the touch for the swings the screens. Dane was talking about the ball going down the middle of the field.

He gives his receivers a chance, you know, and he'll hit guys on the run. He's got touch in the red zone. He has a feel for how to put the ball far enough out there in order to give the receiver that opportunity to bring it down. I know he'll move around in the pocket to buy the second chance. I wouldn't say he's a great runner, but he's got no fear when it comes to throwing this football. And so I like the way he keeps those eyes down the field. His receivers give him a chance down the field,

he delivers the ball well down the field. So after David's found all those four quarterback acts it went in the first round. Well, he's my he was my fifth quarterback out there's what he was. If I made Would you mind if I hijack things a little bit? Sure? I just I mean, you know, so three quarterbacks that I don't care about just got drafted. Good for them, and it's awesome for the Cowboys. And that's my point is fantastic players that we have no interest in whatsoever

from a Cowboys perspective or going off the board. And so I can't help. But notice that we're moving into we're moving into cowboy range here, getting six seven picks away. What are what are y'all thinking? What do you I think there's still a lot of names available that they could have picked at forty four. I agree, I'm looking Do you think, oh, size the guy here? I would love that at seventy five Osi or or Molden. So

I mean I'm looking at Molden. I'm looking at I don't know if they would want a double dip, but I really think Pauls and a Debo and if you have to, Mela Fawn wove Fit here. Yeah. I think I think you're looking for big corners that can run. There's a couple of them available that Jalen Mayfield to the Falcons at sixty. I'm sorry, is that the select?

Is it? Okay? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that. Yeah, that was in okay, No, Like I went through you know, I'm looking at like best available lists, and I had changed much from forty four. It's pretty wild man, And like every position that you would associate with the cowboys, there's at least one or two guys like you could have your choice between in Osai and Ronnie Perkins. You could, um, you know you mentioned the two cornerbacks malifon wuin a debo.

Elijah Molden's probably a safety here, but they need a safety, so that's fan. They definitely need to see. Jamar Johnson's still sitting there. I don't know. That's probably not a guy you would have drafted at forty four, but a couple of weeks later, Aaron Robinson at Central Florida I think is a really really good prospect. He just he played the slot and so if you view him as a slot only, I don't know if that would be

a Cowboys consideration. But you've got d tackles available that we've talked about leading up to this with Alee mcdeale Lee McNeil is another Sheldon and Tommy Tokyo. I maybe not seventy five, but somewhere in these next three picks, who we pilo two. Um, I'm the only one who would pick Marvin Wilson, so I'll just pick him later, no problem. I don't think you're the only one. I there's some guys in that room when that would pick Marvin Wilson would just wait, just waited. I did I'll

tell you this. I love I feel. I'm so sick of feeling like, oh god, oh God, oh God, oh God. Guys are guys I like are going and right now I'm like, we're gravy baby. Yeah, I didin't get happen this time. I'm gonna feel great about whoever's there at seventy five, no matter what until the next six picks. Are all guys gonna be guys that I love. I mean, oh, Anthony mutnios Is, Oh with the Cincinnati name, I'm like, what, No,

not at all. By the way, there is a look for those of you watching on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com side of things. There's a look inside the war room up in the top lefty in corner. Steven's got the jacket off. Things are getting crazy. By the way, one of those names we just mentioned, Joseph Osai, it's Tressure out of Texas goes. I mean, somebody, somebody we like, is gonna go between now and then it's gonna be the next six pick. Yeah, it would be this day.

Superstitions aren't real, guys, Come on, well, let's just see about that. Yeah, but what about curses? Huh, that's the same thing, two different words different yeah, uh yeah, synonyms. So no, there's man, there's there's a bunch of really good players. Bill, But that is one of the guys that would have been I would have loved that for me. That was Yeah, that was one of my top guys. I got a lot of I got six second round guys left. I got Molden, Robinson or my only two

second round guys left. I'm a little surprised Robinson still available. Yeah. I mean I don't like them as much as you guys do. I don't the instincts. I didn't. I didn't think they were quite there. We might be slot only, right, I see. That's what I liked about him, as he could play I thought could play inside, outside. Okay, but I'm surprised he's still on the board at this point. I thought late second uh was kind of his sweet spot. He I mean, pretty soon he's got to come off

the board. Would you say that about Elijah Molden too, or do you think the size of the testing is that's he's a He's a he's a nickel only he's very roles not scheme specific, role specific with how you can deploy him on the field. What are we seeing from a Lee McNeil. Why has he not been taken so far? You know he's a true You watch him play. Like I said, he's breathing the same air as the center. He is like this old school head up nos zero technique straight up is what he played, and he can

play the one here. And he's got a good first step. But I don't think that means you can rush the passer. Like he might bring you a little bit of pocket push, but he's not gonna ever. If he was ever going to be a pass rusher, he'd be off the board. Brady Christiansen is the pick seventy to the Panthers. So another offensive tackle, twelve offensive tackles. Now he needed help at left tackle. That's I'm sorry, Go ahead, Dan, Rashaun Slater. We talked about maybe at eight they go corner, they

get a left tackle here in the third round. I just I will the one thing that I don't know if I love, and y'all feel free to correct me. The tackle situation for where the Cowboys are paying doesn't look amazing. I think it's pretty washed up, right, That's okay? Yeah, I mean compared to I think other positions. I don't think that looks pretty at all. So I think if you took an offensive tackle, you'd be kind of forcing what you consider a need. Dane, do you like Hutson?

It all from Cincinnati? I do. In the third, I mean more of a late third, I thought, or Smith from East Caroline Smith, Yeah, I think he's got We did for a radio who had to do a mock and I put Smith. I think I picked him right about this spot because so I don't know. I mean, Alee McNeil is a solid player at some point here in the third Brown, We're gonna see a run on these defensive tackles, Yeah, McNeil and maybe the USC kids

and a few of these players. There's some wide receivers still left on that board, Toomy Brown, Rogers, Wallace Saint Brown, right, I actually like both Saint Brown and Rogers. Amari Rodger is an Aminross Saint Brown above Diami Brown. But all of them, you know, it's those I think, at least for me, those are the next guys. Is those three and Palmer. I actually liked the Tennessee Palmer day. Did you see the Palmer kid? He of course you did.

You've watched a thousand players. It runs like angry like it does or it's just like he just I don't know. It's the way he plays is even just in the routes is so physical. I was just like, I like, I mean watch him against Alabama and you can see, uh you know him he got a touchdown over Certan, right. Yeah, I mean he only had like four touchdowns this year, but one was against Hurtan, one's against Tyson Campbell. One was against DJ Daniel, the other Georgia corner who has

a chance to get drafted tomorrow. Daniel was so bad trying to defend that play too. Yeah. So, I mean he played well in the SEC. I think the quarterback situation really held him back awful. What do you think about some of these interior defensive lineman passed mcdeal or pass McNeil, maybe like a TJ. Slayton and osa Odiggy zoo Uh by the way, that's a fun name of

Diggi zooa. What do you think about those kinds of guys that at least they're just kind of sneaking in there if you wanted to maybe look down the board a little bit for a d tackle yeah, and what's that sweet spot to get one of these defensive tackles? We know it's not a strong class, and so do you do it here in the third d you wait to the fourth. I mean, oh, Diggy Zoo is a good player inside outside versatility, Milton Williams's name, saying there's

like five of these defensive tackle guys I've got. I just think y'all are disrespecting my pet cat Tommy Tommy Togi either three pound guy. Yeah, he's strong, m effort what he is? He was like, uh, it just is he gonna give you pass rush? That's the question though, right? Yeah, see I does does that matter? Like we're we're well, sure we're here into the third round. Maybe maybe it's not seventy five, but eighty four and ninety nine they've I mean, we'll see how they develop, but they they've

got Hill and Gallimore to do that stuff. That's why you drafted Tristan him. I'm not saying that we know he can do it, but might be easier with a big, strong, badass like Tommy Toby. I just eating up blocked. He mauled Clemson like he was literally body slamming guys in Ohio State would have lost anyway, but they would have played better against Alabama if he was there. Oh he was the MVP of the defense Clemson. I would love to have him on this team. He is one of

those defensive tackles that are in the conversation. The Giants are on the clock. Let's step aside, so we have the Cowboys pick on the other side of the break. You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one on five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. So the Giants selection is happening Round three, Pick seventy one, and its corner Aaron Robinson. If the Cowboys were gonna double dip at corner in the second and the third,

Aaron Robinson was probably gonna be that guy. Tell you what, one of the Cowboy receivers is going to get mugged. Yes a year. I love the way Aaron Robinson plays right there the line and he's going to He's going to hit you and ride you through the route. I loved watching Aaron Robinson. He's tough. He is tough. I'll tell you what. Though those kids down there play they they they're man. I mean, they play with a chip

on their shoulder. They really all. I mean, I know here I would say, oh, Brauns, we got Tristan Hill out of that place. Well, okay, I get it. But I mean I'm just looking at these kids. Every time I see a Central Florida player though, I'm I feel like, man, that's that's a good player right there. Probably deserves to be in an ACC school or something like that. And I'm gonna say that's probably why. I mean, you see is definitely coming up in the world. Oh no, they are,

but they far. I mean, their coach left, their coach took took the job at Tennessee, right, yeah, and he went up to Tennessee and they got to get the guy from Auburn, you know, so we'll see how I mean, I forgot Gus Mason's he could have a lot of Successus Mason is a good coach. Yeah, that would be interesting, so completely not. I'm very happy he's not in the SEC West anymore. Dave you you you're with you live with this team. You live with this team. I literally

you do live with this team. I'm not well a lot less over the last year. But yeah, typically there he goes, Wow, yeah, Okay, a couple of three. That's building right there. Wow. So Ali McNeil out of NC State. The defensive tackle is the pick with Detroit at seventy two. By the way, for those of you listening, man, you

wanted him off all, didn't you. I did. I did too. Yeah, I did a big fan of his, like I say it, but I got you know, I got these defensive tackles still kind of stacked in there though, And I meant we've lost a couple of guys since I said that. Yeah, good jokes, but no, but there's still a lot left. Is anybody on the clock and two picks? Is anybody like Nixon from Iowa? Dave Davion Nixon, Yeah, the tackle from Iowa. I don't think he's the worst player on

the board. I don't think he's my top pick, though, Dane, I hate what he sighed. He does. There's some prospects that are just frustrating or you know, okay, okay, there's clear talent there. Because I don't have him great. I was just making sure I wasn't gonna be the only one saying bad things about him. No, like it to buy into him, like to fully invest in him as a draft pick. But you know there's you know it watched the Penn State tape and you're optimistic, and then

you watch other tapes and maybe not so much. So I think somewhere here in the third round is probably the right range for him, but I don't know that I'm all that excited about it. If he's my pick Eagles right Philadelphia selection at seventy three, three picks away from the Cowboys, it's gonna be down to the wire here on what they're gonna do. Milton Williams Williams Louisiana Tech defensive lineman, started to take our cats were the target. It's going to be fine. There's plenty left to Dallas

might have their guys. They're hanging, they're handing the phones around here, they're talking to somebody. I guess we'll see. Milton Williams to me is big time projection, like he's an incredible athlete, but against that level of competition, I would expect you to just crush everyone. And I didn't really see that. So that's and I know they deviate. I mean, you know, there's no blanket statements. They deviate

from time to time. But I do think it's interesting that they seem to like him so much because this is the big school team. They always draft big school guys. I mean they did Alabama, Alabama in the first two rounds. Wait, who Philadelphia, No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the Colt Dallas. The Cowboys were enamored supposedly with Milton Williams, and that's not the type of school that they typically

go after. I mean, their first two picks this year Penn State in Kentucky SEC Big ten, and that's what they do. So I definitely thought that was interesting. So what are we thinking though, specifically about the Cowboys here? Because you've got Washington at seventy four, the Cowboys are up at seventy five. Let's stop some names here, gentlemen. I would love it if the pick is Elijah Molden. Say, Elijah Moullen's the best player on my board pretty clearly,

him and Quinn Miners, Dammy Brown. I love They're not going receiver. Did you ever know? Yeah, yeah, you probably know, But I would love Elijah Molden. I like Tommy Tokey. I would make me happy. I might be alone on that, but that's fine. Is safety. The biggest need here is defensive tackle the biggest need here, that's my question. Well, I don't think that. I mean, with three third round picks, I don't know that you have to go with your

top need. So yeah, take the guy you think won't be there next time you come up on the Saint just I mocked him too the Cowboys at this time yesterday. He's a kid from back. You're on the radio side of things. The Dallas Cowboys are officially on the clock after back to back NFC East opponents. Philadelphia takes the defensive tackle out of Louisiana Tech, Milton Williams, and then Benjamin Saint Juice Corner out of Minnesota goes to Washington. Brian, you were right on this guy on where he was

gonna go. Yeah, I tell you what. And then we again for one oh five three. We did did some mock draft stuff, and I thought this guy would end up with the Cowboys. I was kind of hopeful about him. I really liked watching his tape. I thought he was super productive when you know, when you were able to

study him. The thing about him is that he's he's one of those guys that when it's like he's long and when he gets in position, like he's got that booty to play with that offhand, and you don't see him going over or over the back of the receiver or through. You see him playing around the body, control of the balance. I think he's got quickness. I'm a fan of how tough he is, he tackled, the way he defends the ball. There are a lot of things about him. He was a guy who started watched a

little late. I got him from Dane studying some of his stuff. I said, oh, this is a cat I need to watch. And I was very impressed with his work at Minnesota because of the late his ability to play the ball, and how he was able to tackle. So really quickly, let's go around the table. Biggest need thoughts about the Cowboys as they are on the clock here, starting with you, Jeff, where do you think they're going? Biggest needs would probably be somewhere with safety d tackle.

I mean you could go a lot of ways. You could talk about the offensive line to go anywhere Edges, Yeah, I think there's a lot of different ways you could go. So I would just be looking at players and I think Elijah Molden, Pauls and Adebo if he had to melafan Wu. Probably not linebacker, right, So get rid of Baron Browning and Jabril Cox, Ronnie Perkins edge Oklahoma. But the defensive line, these defensive tackles, this is where the

third round where that runs going to be. So between you on Nixon at Iowa and Oh Diggi Zuoa Ucla, the UC, the USC kids. Uh, what are the defensive tackles Togi I we have? So I think that this is where we start to talk about those players and who is going to impact this roster. Uh. It's a really interesting mix of different types of talents there. Do you have a favorite in that mix? I already I made my love known for Togi I, so I don't

need to stand on that. Yeah, an order to mine would be Marvin Wilson, Tie Poloto at USC Togia would be my guy for sure. Um Bobby brown Shelvyn Nixon to fil A O Diggi Zuoa. Yeah. I mean I don't like to say, you know, that's why I asked you about Nixon stuff like that, because I wasn't as high on him as the others. And you know the guys you mentioned Togi I wasn't high on and oh Diggi Zua I had in the fourth round. So I'm you know, we'll see what how this all plays out.

One thing I like about some of these guys is that they all kind of tested well. If you go down the list, you look at Tommy Togi I, you look at O Diggi Zooa. I mean, Milton Williams is off the board. He obviously was the better tester out of the group, I think. But I mean specifically about these guys, I've got oh diggi zoo highlighted here, but he had really long arms. He was a quick, quick shuttle time. I mean, he's athletic enough Dane. But out of these tight end or excuse me, out of these

defensive tackles, where did you stand? I mean, my highest ranked out of that group is probably the USC kid. Yeah to a plow too as well. But you know, there's I really do like togy I, you know, diggi zoo with two guys that I think you know can help you inside and outside. And that's the thing with a Diggi Zooa, they lose Tyrn Crawford. Oh diggi Zooa gives you that inside outside versatility at six one and a half two eighty two pounds, can play inside, can

play outside. The defensive line depth that he would provide. I think that that definitely stands out. So the Cowboys have made their pick. They will send up a representative to announce the pick in the Cowboys selection here on the Draft Show, as always presented by Miller Lions, one of the best guitarists in the world. All right, how about that pick us a good player there, Adrian Cassada.

With the seventy fifth pick in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys will select defensive tackle Osa oh Dicky Sua from UCLA and another need is checked off the list for the Dallas Cowboys. The resident from Portland, Oregon, five two almost two hundred and eighty two pounds Dane scouting report, A long player, thirty four inch arms. He's explosive. I love the way he uses his physical hands to snatch to stay under control. It is the former wrestler.

He was a state champion wrestler at the high school level. Second wrestler the Cowboys have taken in this draft because Parsons was as well. Yeah, and a guy that was productive twenty seven and a half tackles for loss over his career. You know, there's just a lot to like about the raw talent. He needs to get better in some areas, just in terms of patching together as moves and you know, just the fundamentals of being a pass rusher.

But he has disruptive qualities, the length, the power, and I think he can you know is you don't have to say you don't have to put him in an exact spot for him to be productive. Line him up outside, line him up inside. You know, you can just move him around and be creative. He's gonna give you something that scheme versatility, that's I mean, you know I already toy I was my guy. I would assume this probably takes him off the board, which is mate, we'll see,

but yeah, slightly disappointing. My point was gonna be for so many years. I always used to say the Cowboys felt like paint by numbers, Like it was like, well, we need him to do this, like he only does that. Oh and he's a one and he's a three. We can't draft him because of this. If you're telling me this guy is that versatile, I enjoy that. I like a guy that can move all over the place. I

like the long arms too. Yeah. And the interesting thing about him is like I put him in the fourth round because I wasn't entirely sure what to do with him, because at two hundred and eighty pounds or whatever, I felt like some of his best traits were almost as a one technique we're talking about a two hundred and eighty pound guy, but he won't he'd win the leverage battle,

he would play the run really well. And so I was just a little bit thrown off because I'm like, man, he has a lot of the like the stout physical traits as if he was three twenty, but he's doing it at two eighty and he tested as a decent athlete. So I may actually have been too low on him because the things about him that I liked I liked. So that's the thing is I gave a fourth round grade as well. But you know, I read my sky

ro for it. I'm like, it's a good. Yeah. I think when it comes down to it, the length, the power, and his ability to be disruptive. Focusing on that, I do like this player a little bit higher than you know, I thought he'd be drafted and over some players that maybe I had great and higher. But this is a good player. So I'm not gonna, you know, say this is a bad pick at all. So you're not. That's not just a complete cell job. You're like, probably not

what I would have done, But this is a good decision. No, I trust me. I would be completely honest with you if I didn't like the pick, or if I thought this was a reach. I think he's a He's just a player that you watch and you like him. He did a nice job at the Senior Bowl. I thought, you know, he was one of the few defensive tackles down there that held his own against Creed Humphrey and

Quinn Miners. But he's just an easy guy to length. Again, it comes back to the explosive nature and the length and just the competitiveness that you know, the fact that he was a three time state champion wrestler. I think that shines through with his tape, with the balance at the point of attack, and just that grit that he plays with. Brian, you look stressed over there. Do you like this pick? No? I do. I just I was just working through some things. No, you're busy over there

just people texting me. It's driving me nuts. I saw the same thing. I mean, I think I had him too. I think I had him too low. I had him in the fourth round as well, and it was like, I've seen him play the nose and I've seen him play the undertackle. I thought he was super active and he's always on the move. He's always working towards the ball. The first step, quickness, the burst. This is funny. When you start reading your notes, you realize what a clown

you are for putting him where you did. But he comes across the line quickly. He could be disruptive. I like how he got into the backfield. You see him play on the opponent's side of the line. He'll fight blocks. I mean he's fine with getting off blocks. The hands, the quickness, I mean, the effort, the technique is a pass rush is good. He's got some slipperiness to his game. And I think they used him on some games where he was able to effect the pocket that way too.

So good finisher round the ball, he'll wrap his man up. But yeah, I feel like to me that Dallas probably had him right. And my notes what I just read to you is making it sound like that that I had him in the wrong round. Maybe she'd been a

little bit higher. I feel like a crazy person right now because and I mean this with admiration, like y'all are not afraid to let your feelings be known, and like if you think the Cowboys screwed up, you say it, do it all the time, and y'all are all just like, Ah,

I guess I was wrong about this guy. I'll admit it, because you know when the way this kid reads where I read my notes, and that's where I had this distressed look on my face because I was reading these notes and I'm like going, Okay, why did I not have him higher up? None of us did, though, and he just kind of slipped under the radar. I don't know, Well, he just you watch a bunch of players and you lose track of where you have guys. I'll be burtly on. That's what I value y'all so much. I do what

I can. I didn't watch him, so I'm leaning on y'all. Well. To me, it was just that I think I put him there because he was strange, because most of my notes read like, look, it's a guy with upside, but it's a guy that plays like a guy that would play a nose tackle for you and needs two hundred and eighty pounds. So that didn't really add up. But if you're gonna move him up and down the line, like I think he'll be a useful NFL player as

a rookie. Now, if you want to go up and down the players you have available, I would have rather they double dipped at corner and grab Paulson a debo or if you had to melafon Wu, I would have comfortably rather had those players. It's just it's a name that I wasn't ready to hear at that spot. But then you read your notes, you're like, oh, he can help. So it's not one of them. I mean, it's not

one of my top ten or fifteen players. But it's just I don't know, like something about when you you read the notes on a player and you go, oh, well, that is a guy I liked, so he's gonna be on the team. Okay, I think that's a first. And again, like I'm not making fun of y'all. I love that that y'all are like, oh yeah, Like I'm looking over my notes, this seems like this is good to me. But yeah, I think Kat's ripping r you know what right now? On techs he really is. He's like, get

him Dave. Kat said he had a five on him. He says, a garbage pick. Wow, I'm reading your KT. If you're gonna call it out, I'll let you get it called and get it on there. How about that. We do have secret audio from the selection. Let's hear just what the Cowboys were thinking whenever they talk to the newest Dallas Cowboys. Oh, diggi Zowa from UCLA. Oh, so this is Jerry Jones with Cowboys. Hello, thank you, Hey, listen, I think we've got a good enough connection here there.

He goes, Okay, well, I know you can hear me. But we shore our proude, we shore our pride. We're turning your card in, but we're proud that you're part of the team. Man. Congratulations too, Thank you so much for the opportunity. Well, you've you've really worked hard to get this spot, and everybody really in this room respects you for playing at this level to be drafted at this spot. But what we're really excited about is you getting to be a part of the Cowboys and us

together really doing something special. So listen. One of the reason we're gonna get to is gonna hand you the phone to a coach, Mike McCarthy. And he's a big man in your corner here, so I want you to talk to him here he is. Oh, so congratulations. Hey, are you having some fun? Oh you bet? Hey, man, God bless you join this time with your family and friends. And I'm really looking forward to getting you out here

next week. All right, all right, all right, you're looking forward to making you're a cowboy, my man, God bless, I promise. Oh, I know that awesome. Always love the secret audio. And you heard that there from Jerry Jones. I don't want to read too far into it, but he said, here's Mike McCarthy, a big man in your corner. You think this might have been McCarthy looking a guy

down the list a little bit? Yeah, I mean, I mean, hey, that's that's his job, right and and especially in a year which I know you know they can go confer with other people, but there's only ten people allowed in that room. That's this is almost as interesting as doing it all over zoom because you can't have the same level of conversations. But yeah, like McCarthy, McCarthy knows who he likes. I don't have a problem believing that. It's

a good point. By the way, since the Cowboys selected seventy six overall, the New Yorleans Saints select Paulson Adebo Texas product actually Mansfield product down of DFW. He is a corner out of Stanford. Seventy seven. The Chargers take wide receiver Josh Josh Palmer, Chargers again coming up there and making it out of Tennessee. Yeah, did you like Palmer? Oh? Yeah, that's the guy we were just talking about, you know, Tennessee.

He's playing with like a quarterback that's throwing it all over the yard at quarterback and he's coming down with the ball. He's like he Certan couldn't cut. I mean, you could watch him. He's having production against all these Georgia kids, Alabama kids. It doesn't matter. He's going out there. He swept six one, two and fifteen pounds. It's a good looking kid at the number five growing up getting

that football. Love. His toughness yeah a lot. I mean he's not the fastest guy in the world, but he does just enough where he can win vertically, and you know, we saw him Stacks or Tana. I had a tough time where to just rank him because you know, like I like Yami Brown better. I like Amory Rogers better. You know, some of these wide receivers that haven't been taken yet I like better. But I don't necessarily hate the pick here with Josh Palmer because he's a good player.

It's kind of like the DIGGI Zua like, you know, it's do I have other defensive tackles rated higher? Sure, same thing with wide receiver, but I don't dislike the pick because it's a good player. And then of course a Debo off the board. Jeff, you were really high on the Stanford corner. Yeah, that's my guy. A Debo's my guy. I wish the Cowboys would have taken him at seventy five. You like him or melofon Wu better. I actually like the Debo better. And I liked both

of them, but I like a Debo better. A Debo had just he had to in his two years before opting out. He had to lead the He had to lead college football and ball production. Because I thinking back back years, it was seventeen passes defended and then ten and it was four interceptions in each year, so his

hands were on the football all the time. And I think what happened to him in twenty nineteen is people realized how aggressive he was, and that's why he batted down seventeen passes and eighteen and so they hit him with a bunch of double moves. But outside of that aggression, I didn't have a lot of complaints about a Debo's game. I think that he's fast, quick, long man or zone.

So I was a big a Debo fan. I would have loved have seen the Cowboys just double dip and say, you know what, we got a lot of corners and we're ready to rock. It seems like almost too many corners. Honestly, he might be right, well, you never have too much, but I mean that's not that's too many guys. It would mean that Reggie Robinson would have a hard time being acts well. Also, and I mean, let's be let's

be honest too. Is with um you don't want to protect yourself with Kelvin Joseph, With Calvin josephari All I'm saying is with Calvin Josephardi here, if you draft a Devo, then somebody who's worth a lot is not playing, whether that's Jordan Lewis or Anthony Brown or one of these draft picks. Yeah, corners just to me, I feel like every week one of your corners is going to be hurt. Like corner. Sure, I want to have six of them. In the real world, you want to have six And

you know, I get it. You want the best players possible, blah blah blah. But at the end of the day, follow the money, follow the resources. Like you don't want a top one hundred pick not playing because there's four guys that are better than him. Yeah, I guess it just hurts my heart that their corner need no longer lines up with what I think is still a strength

of the draft. Yeah, with a Deebo and meliflor Wu and Shaker Brown and like there's there's still those guys are still available though, right, But and you've got you've got a pick in five selections. But if you took oh Diggi Zuoa over those guys, how many other guys are gonna take over them? Yeah? Like, I just don't know if they're gonna pull the trigger on another corner. I guess it's just an interesting. It's an interesting thought, and I'm not I'm not hating on them because obviously

you can't predict this stuff. But like if you would, if you knew ahead of time who would be available late on day two, would you have signed Jordan Lewis to an extension? No? Yeah, probably not, maybe not, but you can't count on that either. So I some wish that the draft was before fregency. Wow, wouldn't that be great? How wild would it be if we could just do this on like March tenth. I'm not ready for that. Well, see, you need the time because you watch everybody whereas I

do what I can. I'm like, let's roll, baby, Dane'll pick up the slack for me. Yeah, you only have one rough year and then you'd be back to having a calendar year. It would just be next one that would be tough, and then you'd be fine. You'd be right back on track. So the Raiders are on the board at seventy nine. You've got eighty being the Raiders again. Then you've got the Dolphins, the football team, the Bears,

and then the Cowboys. And here's the brilliant thing. If you didn't like the O DIGGI zooa pick, which I don't think it was a bad pick. We all kind of looked at it and said, yeah, we probably could have had him higher. Katie thinks we're cowards. But at the same time, you picking five selections all, I mean, I guess it's more than that. It's nine selections later. But you get to turn around and do it again. Now,

what are you thinking. You got your three biggest needs out of the way, interior defensive line, your need for a corner at your need for a linebacker, I mean safety here is still a potential. Maybe you're looking at a Melafon Wu in there as well. Maybe you're looking for an offensive tackle. Could you throw a wide receiver if you wanted to go get a Thailand Wallace out of Oklahoma State. Don't tempt me with a good time. I'm just saying, don't tempt me with a good time

because he's Michael Gallup is not a certainty. He's a fave. He's a fave for sure. You're Tylan Wallace, guy, I'm an a'man Ross Saint Brown love him too. And Amari Rodgers guy, Oh he's good too, I'm brown. They're all good. Yeah, there's good receivers loft. I just I do wonder with THEO Dicky zoo a pick that some of the guys that we're talking about is the best players available? Are

they just done picking them? Like? Are they like yeah, unless it's like kicking us in the face in the fifth or sixth round, Like we're not gonna take a corner? Are we about to watch them follow a roadmap of positions of need now? And who was the start of that? Are we about to grab a tackle? Is it the

start or that? Like they've been doing it this whole time? Yeah, but on the first two, wouldn't you say it matches up at least closely to the top of the board that Parsons was one of the best available and Kelvin joseph was one of the best available. By R. Johnson's still there, I would love that. My brain is mush Who else was there besides Kelvin Joseph? I mean it kind of felt like they got truly wiped out in that situation. Well, I think only all their safeties were gone.

We lost the safeties, the corners, only the two Georgia kids were gone. Tackles. You still had Walker, little Jackson Carmen Samuel Cosme. I guess I just again, I just I came into the day thinking that they were going to spend that pick on a dB, and so maybe that's why I felt like, if you're thinking about going out getting need guys, do you think enough of Molden to be just a nickel A nickel slot, I'd be

okay with that. Safety totally fun. Don't you currently have the same battle at nickel you've had for the last four years? Though you have Jordan and Anthony Brown? Do you want to do that kids outside? Well, they do. They brought him both back. I wouldn't necessarily want to do that. Again. Well, I think they brought Anthony Brown back to cover themselves because he can theoretically do both. Like they don't see him as purely a nickel. The Raiders selection is in, by the way, seventy ninth pick

in the NFL draft. Here in round three were five selections away from the Dallas Cowboys. For those of you on the air with us, John will pick a bad player on you. I don't tell. John's not afraid to mess these things up. Ters do whatever the hell they want. John will pick a bad play. Yeah, you could tell him that to his face and he'll like, m F you while you're doing it. Yeah, that's fun. He's a lot of fun with to pick him. Yeah, he guys. He's don't have to work for a general manager ten

million a year. Two. Yeah, we're also going to take a break right after this pick is over. The pick is edge Malcolm Coons out of buff Low. That'll be an interesting one to talk about it. We're gonna step aside. Though. You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. On one to five three, the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com told you Jon Gruden don't care. He doesn't care how thinks. Okay, I told you don't care. Gruden needs Dane bad. I might not. I might not watch it.

I don't watch every player, but I've heard of most of these guys. I think that I'm at my first like, who the hell is this guy? You don't know that guy? I don't think I I was not high on this guy, and I might be very wrong. Um he's a good athlete, he's just he's undersized. Um he's more of a runaround rusher than a guy that's going to go through contact consistently. I gave him a seventh round grade. So, but like I might be very wrong, It's very possible he turns

out to be a good player. But which it's a Raider pick. I'll defend the Raiders for a second because I feel like there's a team like this every year where you say, so they drafted Leatherwood and then they drafted merrig and they kind of they caught some flak for drafting Leatherwood where they did. But if you flipped it and said they drafted Marriag at seventeen and Leatherwood at forty three, Mike work he said they had a great draft. Yeah, I mean I think they I like

those two picks a lot. I don't know what to do with this, but Leatherwood as seventeen. I mean, they have a track record of doing this. I'm saying, or Alabama, Mike may I goes to Alabama and they kiss his ass the whole thing. Ohio State in there, too, But they did it last year with Damon Arnett. They had back to back picks, by the way, and they just took safety divine. Mike, I've always said John John John walked out of the room for a minute. Gruden is

good at this. He forgot he had back to back. It's like, oh, walked away, Oh what happened? The Ablo is one of my guys. I like Diablo too, go into it then, Jeff, Well, I just again, I go into watching guys kind of assuming things about them. And when I went in to watch Divine Diablo, I was like, oh, two hundred and thirty pounds too, like I'm about to watch a linebacker. But he's back there at safety and he can play a deep path. He played up deep some he plays forward. I like him tackling in the

run game. I like the tackle radius he has with his length. There's awareness in there. You watch him picking off Trevor Lawrence in the back of the end zone. I think Diablo's a good player, and I know I was hirer on him than most people, but I had him as like a second round guy. I was a big fan so at eighty, Like I said, John Gruden's really good at this guys. He always picks the good players.

He left the room for a minute. I made that Steed in there, there's a conversation to be shout out Walter, There's there's a conversation to be had about positional value. Like, I get it, there were better players. All I'm saying like they've they've made three picks and I like or I'm sorry, they've made four picks and I like three of them a lot. You just don't know who Malcolm Koons is though. I don't know. But hey, they get down with that Buffalo tape. No, sure, didn't you know?

Like tape? Again? I follow the biases of the Cowboys, and I'm like, okay, when they draft, let me know when they draft a Buffalo defensive end one day two. They're not going to do that. Get out of here. That's why I didn't understand the Milton Williams thing. It's like Louisiana attack on day two doesn't make sense. Would you guys consider taking Jabril Cox here? I like the room. What are you gonna do? Yeah, who's getting cut? It's gonna be an edge rusher. I'm just saying, no, I

mean a linebacker that can cover. Can I trade number fifty four from Okay? That's what I mean. I'm with you. Molden is my highest rated guy left, absolutely my highest rating. Can I trade both my linebackers? Long ahead of both? Brevin Jordan and Tommy Trumbull. That's a little surprised, is that Miami? Yeah, one Hunter long to out of Boston College to Miami. You freaked me out. You freaked me out when you do this because there's something you don't

You're always like, we would you do this? And what it really means is that it's already He's already in the conversation, just trying to make you think, because that's what I'm saying, Jeff. You know I did these shows every day. Would you have jeffs tell me about, Hey, this guy, this guy can cover, this guy can cover. I'm like, yeah, case lsu, Yeah, he's right, he can cover. But I was just wondering, you know, that's the reason. And again what's what's done is done? Oh what's up?

Oh we have the newest Dallas Cowboy there. Oh so DIGGI zoo out of UCLA. First off, congratulations, welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. We're glad you're here. Tell us just how this day is gone for you and what's going through your mind right now. It's been a nerve day, you know, it's uh, there's a moment that you I've been waiting for my whole function. But I I'm just I'm glad. I'm glad to be a partner the Dallas Cowboy. I'm right now, smooth. Absolutely, That's that's awesome and congratulations.

I'm curious. You know, before you hopped on with us, we were talking about, uh, your your flexibility, your versatility. I'd love to hear it straight from the horse's mouth coming in you know right away as a rookie, what do you think you do best? How do you think you can help the Dallas Cowboys the quickest. I feel like this is a scheme for people that talks one of the STA article attack defensive line mentality. So that's

something that I feel like. It's my strongest students. You're getting off the ball, being disruptive up the field and just uh you know, knocking guns back and sending a line of scrimmage and the time that I'm playing. So I feel like it goes with when I do very well and it's it's my skill, so I can come in pride. Do you feel like Oh so you feel

like you? You like we were talking about you kind of playing what we would call the under tackle or that three technique on that outside shoulder or playing that one technique is like almost like the nose. Either position good for you? Playing tackle? I mean you're you're right when you watch your tape, you're up the field, if you're attacking, you're on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Is your one particular spot you feel like you're a little bit better at or is it like, hey,

just plug me and let me go. I mean, I feel the best at the three tech, but put me in wherever. You know, I'm not a guy that has my heart set on a single position, particularly, I don't want to be on the field, so you know, wherever, wherever they're ask me to plan where I plan on

and going one hundred and ten percent every snap. Oh so, my favorite thing about your tape is that list You're listed at like two hundred and eighty pounds and then I'll watch you line up all over the place and there's three hundred and thirty pound blockers and like they don't have a chance to move you. So my favorite thing to do in that situation is to look up how good of a wrestler was this guy they can't

move And the answer was three time state champ. So how much does does that help you in terms of leverage and being like, I congrats on being three hundred and thirty pounds, but I'm not moving. I'm sorry. Looks looks like we lost o Diggi Zua. But hey, congratulations. If you can still hear us, we are excited to have you in Dallas and get to talk to you

very very soon. There he goes Osa, oh Diggi Zua, the defensive tackle out of UCLA, filling that need for the Cowboys right in the middle of that defensive line. We gotta get a better connection here. Well, okay, these kids. The first thing the news buy phones. Just buy a phone, are a really good or plan or whatever. Somebody somebody who lives in a concrete shoebox of an apartment, I identify with that problem very well. So maybe he just didn't want to have to go outside to talk on

the phone. Maybe we should blame us since we're in the biggest that's fair. We haven't used this phone line two years almost it's gonna warm up. Yeah, we gotta get it back in the get back into action. So well, we've we're getting closer. Eighty four is the next pick for the Cowboys. The pick is in for the Washington football team. They are at eighty two. In between Washington and Dallas are the Chicago Bears at eighty three. Last couple picks Hunter long tight end from Boston College, goes

to Miami. And then we've got Divine Diablo, the safety for Virginia Tank going to Las Vegas. Dane, what are you thinking about our NFC's foe Washington here at the moment, Let's see they need wide receiver. Hope they they drafted cos Me in the seconds they address left task saying juice in the third. Okay, so tight end because Tommy Trumbull, brevn Jordans, because a wide receiver with a Marii Rodgers or Deommy Brown, that seems like the most likely area

they could go. They went linebacker in the first, so really give your quarterback of pass catcher here and wide receiver a tight end is where Oh Deommy Brown, there we go. Best double move receiver in the draft. Speed can win, vertically tracks the ball really really well. It's still limited with that route tree, but a guy with the big play potentially average over twenty yards per catch each of the last two years. Love the speed I'd like this pick for Washington. Don't like it if you're

the Cowboys. Yeah, that's a good player going at eighty two. By the way, miss Boke, it's actually Carolina at eighty three after that trade earlier in the round. Is edge rusher next up for the Cowboys? Because we talked about Jabrille Cox here, right, Brian, I mean back through his name out there, because you got a coverage linebacker, That's what That's the only thing I was talking about with him. Any chance for an edge rusher though, I mean we

passed on Carlos Basham and things of the sword. There's Perkins. I like snowdon I know there's some people that might not like him. He's out of Virginia. Virginia. Weaver Pittsburgh is another guy. We think a guy like Snowdan fits this team, though, do you think fits I think I think Virginia did him a huge disservice by asking him

to drop and playing coverage and all that. But they when he was rushing the passer, I thought he was pretty impressive doing that, you know, But when they they would ask him to drop it, it wasn't he looked terrible doing that, but they had that three man line. They played three down guys, and he was a stand up like almost like an outside linebacker. I kind of feel like with his length that if you get him on the edge and let him attack, he could cover

some ground in those first couple of steps. I saw a pretty good, pretty good pass rusher there. But I think the Perkins kid. I have the Perkins kid from you know, so, uh we'll see yeah, Perkins. I think for me Perkins and Rashad Weaver Ronnie Perkins. Oh you Rashad Weaver Packers are my two guys too. If you if you were going to go with an edge guy, I think those guys work. Uh if O Diggi Zuwa is here to play the three, which is where he

said he was most comfortable. Would you still take a one technique where you still got some guys that we really like? Um gosh, they could go a number of different ways. I still love Elijah Mold and if you had to medal fun will um so you still got good player. I mean I like the receivers that are left too. So the Dallas Cowboys are officially on the clock as the Panthers just selected Notre Dame tight end Tommy Tremble. We think an edge. Are we thinking running

back or not running back? Excuse me, I don't know what I'm telling I read running back down here, I was running. I was reading running back here, edge rusher, maybe a safety if you wanted to go that direction. Anything here. I I'm prepared to be disappointed. I'm prepared for them to not draft Moulden, which is what I would do. I would do that too. Um. I don't know. I just maybe you go with a guard here. They

don't like his size. You always think that they would like at this point in time, would maybe think about the tackle McCarthy offense. I'm feeling either at this pick or at ninety nine, they would take a tackle. Which one's your favorite? That's left Hudson or Smith? I mocked him Smith. I thought that Hudson would have been gone by now, to be honest with you. So here's Tommy Trimble. He just went, yeah, Carolina, read that a couple seconds ago.

That you're good. Notre Dame tight end, Tommy Trimble. That's the fourth tight end taken. Now, yes, fourth tight end takeing. Brevin Jordan's still available. He of course had conversations with the Cowboys that made some noise, Spencer Brown, Tyland Wallace, Anthony Schwartz, or hanging around at receiver Nico Collins. I'm

literally just reading a list right now. I mean this, this is why I wanted to take, which I know they went ahead of time, but like I'm imagining a world where they drafted the corner at ten and Jabril Cox is still sitting way down here. I feel really good about I mean, drafting him. They wouldn't be picking right now in that situation, but you get my point. I just I love the linebacker. I love this linebacker class, particularly on Day two. I would draft him if you

hadn't already drafted Michael Parsons. I'm just not sure how you manage all those line ackers if that's what you were to do. The pick is in, so that's good. That's good. They made their decisions. So that's fun. Michael Irvin and showing off and working the crowd a little bit in Cleveland. Of course, the Cowboys picked so far at twelve Micah Parsons. Linebacker corner Kelvin Joseph was the

first pick of Day two. He was at forty four, and then we just talked to him Osa Odigizuoa, defensive tackle out of UCLA, was the third pick of the draft, second pick of the day, and of course they do have another one coming up in just a couple of picks. This is the pick that the Cowboys got for trading back from ten to twelve to select Micah Parsons. With the eighty fourth pick in the NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys on the clock and they select defensive in Jauncy

Gholston out of Iowa Dane. I mean, this is a power rusher and he had a really, really good senior Bowl. He is a really good player. And listen, the testing numbers aren't great. He is not a big time athlete, but he's instinctive. He's tough, he's strong inside outside, he knows where the ball is going to be and he meets the ball carrier there. He arrives with thump. Big

fan of Chauncey Golston. I think I actually mocked him to the Cowboys in the fourth round, so you know, he goes a little bit earlier than we thought, but no problem with drafting him here. He's an upgrade on this defensive line. Yeah, this guy. What's interesting about him is he's got the ability to be time, so he tends to come and go for him. There'll be some really good rushes and then others where he appears he

gets distracted. And I thought he had a really good first step off the ball, but quite can't finish the rush when he needed to on some of those snaps. But you know, when he got tied up or gets chipped, you know, it throws him off a little bits. But some of his best pass rushes when it came off the edge and used in the twist game, I understand what Dane saw in the player when he could get a free rush to the quarterback. He does have a burst. He could get the guy to the ground deliver a

blow when he gets in position. He'd be a hard guy to run the edge on too. That ball gets the outside. He is kind of stretching, stretching, stretching. I did say he has some DeMarcus lawrence to his game, and it comes to play in the run because he's not gonna let you get outside of him. But he plays off some blocks pretty well, extending on his guy and then shedding to make the play. So there's more

to his game. But you know, maybe every team. I said this, whatever team drafts him will have to figure out how to make him more consistent as a player. I love him. Yeah, you were, you were the most excited about him. I think this is my favorite pick on Day two for this team. I just he's a really quality player. I mean I just think like there's some guys that you look at the traits and you look at the testing numbers, and this guy, it just I don't know. I thought he was a little more

consistent than Brian did. But he's just he's just a good football player. I don't know. I he sold me pretty pretty quickly on the Iowa tape, and then I thought the Senior Bowl he kind of backed it up. By the way, Rodgers just went to Green Bay with the eighty fifth selection, and if they're gonna if they trade it up, I mean eventually they were finally gonna do it right, gonna help somebody out in Green Bay, finally try to make your you know, best quarterback ever.

So he quit, he's not playing anymore. That's now. Let's go ahead and take a break. When we come back, we're gonna continue breaking down at Chauncey Golston, the pick out of Iowa will hear from him and just a little bit as we continue rolling along, you're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one of five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com back you're on the internet side, So, Brian, do you like the pick? Yes or no? Thumbs up? Thumbs down here for Chauncy.

That was the fourth round, and I understand where Dane's going. I just don't see a consistent player there. I do see a good run player, though, I see an occasional pass rusher, but I mean he's needed to take a better advantage of his first step. That's just the tape at I saw Jeff I liked. I thought, you know, I think he's not going to always win as a pass rusher, just because I don't think that he's a

agile rushers limited. Yeah, like he's not going to turn the corner on you and maybe not like a quick inside out, but you know he is. He's a power player that I think is going to be a steady

run player. Like he's an NFL ready, dude, he's not gonna make a Pro Bowl, right, I got He's not that type of high upside guy, right, He's not gonna be a double digit SAT guy, but I think that he could walk into a lot of NFL teams right now and be their third or fourth edge guy and you know, play snaps for you in NFL games and not hurt you. So for the Cowboys, I do think that they're not following necessarily the BPA thing anymore because

now you start look. Now you start to look at what their draft looks like, and it's now a linebacker, corner, d tackle edge like They're they're spreading it out and try to put a lot of new faces on this defense. And I like going BPA as much as possible until it stops making sense. But the guys that they're picking that aren't my BPA. They are picking guys I like, but you're you're reading a lot of positive notes about them, and I like Gholston. I like Gholston more than I

like Go DIGIZOOA. Here's the impression that I'm getting from what's happening here, which I mean it makes sense. The Cowboys have the offense to contend, and they're building a defense that cannot completely screw that up, and sometimes that means like not taking the best player available which I like. I don't have a big beef with any of these picks. There are other guys I would have taken, But it's almost like they're following a blueprint of like you know,

we said it. You know, they have Tank and they have Randy, and there's not a lot else there. And I like the idea of drafting a ready made power guy who's going to come in and do dirty work more than I like the idea of um a guy Like this might sound crazy, but I would rather take this guy later than take a chance on OSA earlier. And like maybe he maybe he's amazing, maybe he's a bust, you know what I mean. And that's these are low

risk picks. A lot of these. It's like maybe these guys are never stars, but they can come in, Oh DIGGI ZOOA can beef up two to three positions on your line. This guy can rotate in and do the dirty work, you know, Kelvin Joseph gives you a boundary corner. I just feel like they're trying to be They're trying to build a defense that can be middle of the pack or better, because that's probably all you need. It's honestly like they're drafting for to drafting away from the projections.

They're just looking for straight floor for some of these guys. Because the floor I would agree with that all four of the picks they've made. The floor is very high. Now the ceiling may not be much higher. It feels to me like they're trying to build, like they're trying to draft guys that can just come in right now and may and I mean everybody guys like that. That pick Doward's Armstrong too three years ago. You know, you

really get a trust the guys too. I mean, I know it's a new defensive staff and all that, but when you know you're telling me about guys that I'm telling you guys too that oh they played the run well, and oh he's got to work a little bit better on his past. He's not gonna be a Pro Bowl player. It's not gonna be this or that. And I understand we're in the third round. I get it, but you know you drafted guys like Bradley and I last year who didn't even see the field. You've got you Doran's

Armstrong will make one play every third game. You know, I think Golson's a lot better than a nine and Dorance, though in my opinion, I don't think there's I don't think there Bradley and I was was a PAC twelve Defensive Player of the Year. Wasn't he last year? He wasn't. He wasn't the year. But he was like a sack leader or something. He was a good college player. But I don't I mean we didn't. We didn't greet him

as a top one hundred player, right. No, No, I mean it's not like we expected him to be this uh, this all world player. I mean, I'm surprised he didn't make more of an impact as a rookie. But I said, this guy is very similar. You guys are we're all I guess we're all okay with us the tank Lawrence playing the run, right, is that we're we're staying here. We're all we're okay with the guy. Just we're just gonna play the run with this guy. Thanks, good against

the run? Where are you talking about? No? But but does this guy does this guy rush? Can this guy rush the passer well enough for you to to make a difference? Golston? Yeah? Probably not, that's not Yeah. I wouldn't say that he's gonna give you he's not gonna give you nine to twelve sacks in a year. No, that's not his straight. I'll wait till we come back to radio. But that's kind of my point. Brian. Well, did you guys feel like there are better players on

that board than this kid? Yes? Yes, okay, yeah, I just want to make sure that thank you. The NFL Draft rolls on here all one oh five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Cavital, Brian brought us Dame Brugler. We've got David Hellman here as well, live from inside the Star in Frisco. Wyant Davis and the guard from Ohio State goes to Minnesota here at eighty six. So we have seen a couple

of good players go off the board ever since. The Cowboys selected edge rusher Chauncey Golston out of Iowa, who, by the way, we have secret audio from Let's hear from Chauncey Golston in the moment he was drafted by the Cowboys. Hey, Chauncey. Jerry Jones with the Cowboys. Hey, what I'm calling you about is we just turned in your card. We're gonna we're gonna You're gonna be a Dallas cowboy. A cowboy I love. That would be great, that'd be great. Well, I'll tell you I'm proud for you. Uh's.

It's a great place to be. You should you should be proud. You've worked hard. But I know your family's gonna be proud of you. But we're excited that you're gonna be a Dallas cowboy. That's the bottom line. Thank you, appreciate the car. Okay, wait, hey, don't leave me, Hey, don't leave me. Are you gone? Hey? Okay, well, don't be gone. Don't be gone. But here's here's your head coach, Mike McCarthy. Okay, he wants to talk to you. Welcome

for the Cowboys. Thank you, thank you, Chauncey. Congratulations, thank you. Hey, hey to appreciate the car. Oh you bet hey? Where are you right now? I'm how many Detroit right now? Okay? Awesome, way and enjoyed the special moment with your family and friends. And I can't tell you how excited you we are to make you part of this, this this great organization. This is a phenomenal opportunity for for you and for what's in front of you. I'm more than I'm more

than all right, man. Okay. So that is the secret audio from Chauncey Golston as he was selected by the Cowboys eighty fourth overall. By the way, the next Cowboys picked. We are about twelve selections away as they are at ninety nine to conclude the day, and they are six picks from the end of to excuse me today's drafting. So go ahead and take a BPA swing. You know, it's kind of let's take it's a BPA swing. Let Ronnie Perkins be around, and then to Brian's point, we'll

go try to find a guy that's a pass rush. Finally, go on offense. I think so offensive line. Can I take an early gas here just to see, just from rumblings i've heard Anthony Schwartz wide receiver out of Auburn. I have heard as well, Yeah, I'd rather pick a better player, but I get it. I mean, watch it happen. That's just my guest. He see, that's one of those picks where I wouldn't be thrilled. That's a good pick by the Steelers. That's an athlete. Very surprised. Quinn Miners

still on the board, right yep, he sure. That's very very SROs. That would be that would be pretty ironic if you know, we're talking about the Cowboys making these high floor picks, ready made guys, and then cap it off with the fastest player in the draft who you

don't have a role for right now. Special teams. Maybe I would love if what they did was they got to ninety nine and if some of these guys are still very available, like Baron Browning, Ronnie Perkins, like give me a guy that's just like, go get the quarterback. So we do have Chauncey Golston on the line edge rusher out of Iowa knew was Dallas Cowboy. Chauncey, First off, congratulations, just kind of explain what this moment is like for you. This is, oh my god, life changing moment right here.

I don't even know how to It's kind of hard to put into words. Really really really just grateful, really grateful. Man. Hey, congrats Chauncey. We heard the secret audio of you talking to Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. It sounded like you almost hung up on Jerry. Were you just like trying to go, you know, party with your family. No, it wasn't that I was about to hang up. It was

just like I was, I was lost the words. I'm like, I trained down there in Dallas, like for my my prodec trying and like I've seen a lot of like uh commercials with Jerry Jones on it, and just to like hear him on the phone, I was, I was lost the words. So I wasn't about to hang up. I just didn't know what to say. Honestly, Hey, Chuncy, we saw you down there at the Senior Bowl and getting some opportunities. Can you talk about that experience for

you and how it helped you. You know, you're getting in front of those eyes, the scouts, the coaches, gems and stuff like. Talk about your Senior Bowl experience and how it helps you there. Okay, So like I'm this is high. Went so our very first day like a position meetings. I saw that there was like nine defensive ends and two defensive tackles, and I'm like, these are all really good players. I could fight for a few reps at in or I can get maximal exposure at

defensive tackles. So you know, I went in there. So my d line h coach at Iowa coach Calvin Bell that I'm gonna be uh taking a lot of reps at defense to talk with the get in front of as many coaches as I possibly could, and well, like I guess to pay it off right now. So what was your what was your contact like with the Cowboys? Did you know that this this possibility was out there? I didn't. I didn't know, honestly, and I would. I was just ready to give my off to whatever team

drafting me. Where do you think your role is gonna be in this defense here? If you had to guess, I don't know if you've had a chance to talk with your defensive coordinator yet, but just in your thought process and what you know about the Cowboys, where do you think you'll fit in? UM, I'm just trying to for I'm trying to provide wherever I can, honestly, or wherever I can, no matter inside, outside, wherever, wherever they

need me, I'm there for it. But damn it, Chauncey, you sound like a perfect teammate and I'm excited to congratulations. Hey Chauncey, really just just at a UM kind of a stabbing that there? Did you go? You went to cast Tech in Detroit. Right. No, no, no, no, no, no, I got that wrong. I'm so sorry. No, but Jordan, Jordan Lewis. That's why. That's actually why I brought it up. I knew Jordan went to cass I was wondering if you know him? Yeah, nah, nah, he went, he went

to the cast I went to use English. Is there a rivalry between those two? Yeah, yeah, they used to be used to be something like that, so high school stuff. Do you know Jordan at all? I guess that's the main reason I asked. I'm just wondering if we don't have we don't have a personal relationship, but I know of him. You know, I try to keep up with any guy that makes it out of the city. Absolutely well, I'm I have a feeling you'll be meeting him before

too long. So welcome to board man. Glad to have you, but you appreciate you taking some time with us. Chauncey, go celebrate, congratulations. We look forward to seeing you're here in Frisco. Thank you. There, he goes johncy Goldston new with Dallas cowboy ed Drusher from Iowa. I like that, Jeff, I agree, I kind of felt the same way, got that same feeling. He just seems like a guy you

would like being around. I mean, that would seem like a guy that would get the most out of the Senior Bowl, who walks in and immediately knows what it's about. Where it's like, how can I get maximum exposure? How can I get the most reps? Coaches can I'll play over there? You want to play over there? I don't know everything about talking to him. That makes me sound

like you want fifty three of them. And you know, if you can find a bunch of dudes that are super talented and they're not gonna be Chauncey Gholston's, that's all right. We'll take some of those two. But the more dudes that think like that, I think, the better off you are. I find me a coach that doesn't like him. You talk to Kirk Franz loves him. He called him an absolute delight exact quote from his IOWA coach. So, I mean, he's just an easy player to like because

of the football character. He's a team captain. He's just gonna come in and do what has asked of him and exceed expectations. So really just a quality football player that I think the Cowboys could be very excited about on that defensive line. By the way, the Texans just traded into pick number eighty nine, as we are now ten selections away from the Cowboys and what would be

their final pick of the night. Dane, you talked about it earlier whenever the Cowboys were thinking about trading up, Brian, I think you mentioned it as well. But the Cowboys were looking at these three third round picks and we're saying, hey, there's an opportunity here to maybe move up, maybe make less than four picks today. However, it looks like they're gonna make all all three selections here in this third round.

It is, and you know that's not a bad thing, you know, going with the quantity this team could use it, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I just I'm very interested to see where they go with this final pick. Are they going to go on the offensive line? Could they go receiver, could they go safety? You know, where are they going to go with this final third round pick. It's going to be an interesting decision. They did what they wanted for these first two and that's fine.

Like I don't really have a big problem with it, but give me give me a guy, give me Mike, give me my guy. Well, if I could drought up the way I want to, Tom Wallace would be fun. If he's still hang around, Elijah Molden would make me super happy. Okay, let's stick along that same line of conversation. But there are a lot of guys here that could make an immediate impact in or higher on our boards. Dane, what are your top guys on your big board right now?

Let me pull this up here. It's our Darius Washington, is it not? So? Come on? Guys available here? Elijah Molden, Quinn Miners, if you ought to melofon Wu, what's happening with him? Why is he still available? Um? Nico Collins wide receiver Michigan was the pick to Houston. Yeah, Saint Brown. Kenneth Gainwell put a two pilo to usc those to be the top five available. I don't think melofon Wu

should still be available. But again, sometimes you look at a guy and it's like that height plus weight, like the transitions aren't pert? Really doesn't? That's sarily. Look, you would expect most corners to be twenty pounds lighter than he is playing the position that he plays. So teams may just be struggling with that a little bit. But I think he should have be gone by now. I agree, just maybe another case of he's a little bit of

an outlier. Brian, Well, we might need to find out from the trainers and doctors around the league if something's physically wrong with him. Those you know, that's what we learned about Coral Mora, you know, if this kid might have something, we're dealing with. My guys, the best guys I got left. I got Molden Cox Melophon or the three the top of my top three guys. And then I got Gainwell, the the kid from Memphis. Those turn them out, yeah, and I have him like as a

third round guy. And and then our USC defensive tackle. I'm surprised that Dane mentioned is too that Jordan the tied end from Miami hasn't gone yet either, as opposed to that's a that's a guy that's a down the field player. So we'll see. That's the great thing about it. I mean, I again, it's kind of holding my board.

It's it's holding how I thought it might hold. But there's still some guys that man that I have a little bit higher than maybe that some of these teams do, and I'm you know, I'm wondering why they're still there. Are Darius Washington, Elijah Molden, Marvin Wilson, Baron Browning, upon Wu. We're gonna talk about a couple more of those players after we come back from our final break. We're heading into our number four of our coverage here on one O five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

Staying on the Internet side of things, I keep hearing Marvin Wilson, and I know Dane wasn't super high on them. Brian, Jeff, you guys were high. Dave, I don't know really know where you stand in terms of Marvin Wilson. I'm just Jeff keeps saying, like watching him from two years ago, I'm like two years as an eternity in football. Long, here's the crap out of me. Edge rusher Patrick Jones

to my to Minnesota. I know he changed schemes. I just well, I just I guess what throws me off is like Penasol at nineteen years old was button college football, and then he sat down for a year and everybody was like top ten pick and Marvin Wilson stepped in as a freshman dominated college football, did it again as a sophomore, and then as a junior was okay, And the NFL is like, yeah, huh, life's not fair, man. They should have opted out. That's what he should have done.

You might be right, you might be instead of playing end on a three man line with a Tormaniscus, maybe you should have shut it down and get picked two rounds. Hire he selfish pays off sometimes. Wait wait, people who are how guys who opted out aren't selfish? I want to be clear about that. I'm just joking. Dane. How if he opted out, where would he be though? Second round? Dane? Uh? Yeah, I mean I grated him as kind of a yeah day two player, second third round. Is there off the

field stuff like is there coaching questions? Because I don't understand how a defensive tackle who in the NFL role he's gonna have for two years in a row, is and is really good in college football and then just disappears off the map. Yeah. I think some of the coaches were not happy with how uh you know, he worked back from some of the injuries that he had, but nothing that would I think would take him off boards at least that that I that I know of,

got the Browns making pick Miles Garrett. What yep, I'm like, he's not eligible. That's a bad pick. Pick another one. He's already different named Miles Garrett. Like he looks like he's wearing padding. Yeah, but he's definitely sleeves. I'm surprised that Patrick Jones went before Richard Weaver. Yeah, me too, I'm the same team. Yep. I'm having a lot lot though. Yes, yes, draft him. I don't care. I don't care that you just drafted two linemen. It's Dave's guy versus Jeff's guy.

It's Tommy toegy I versus our Darius Washington. That's okay. Typically that's not fair when we do this, like when we fixate on a guy, they're still there two hours into tomorrow. So Anthony Schwartz my pick for the Cowboys at Oh, no, bad receiver that runs fast. I hate that he's gone. Oh I'm so sad that the Cowboys can't make that pick anymore awful people. So do I

get another guess? Yeah, he can't. You do guesses, Miner just hopes and you and if you guys know my track record, the guy that I want the Cowboys picking the sixth, So get ready to mark. I'm gonna say, Marvin Wilson, That's why I said what I said, because Xavier Woods and Anthony Brown set the standard. Yeah, I picked six rounders for the Cowboys, calling for him three rounds early. Anthony Schwartz, though, Dane, tell me about I mean four two five forty four two five twenty yards shuttle.

I mean, I mean he's light, he's small, but my goodness, is a special, special speed and he's one of the fastest human beings in this country's flat out. Um. I think that you just worry about him as a football player. I mean he had more rushing touchdowns in college than receiving touchdowns as a wide receiver. Not ideal for a wide receiver. So you know, there's a lot to like it, But you know how much of that is the Auburn offense. How much of that is just the lack of development.

He is a speedy player who needs to develop as a wide receiver, and I am eager to see him outside of that Auburn offense just to see how he can develop. And this is a pick where the Browns don't need him to be an impact performer right now, Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, Richard Higgins, Donovan, People's Jones. They've got their receiver set for this year, but the twenty twenty two wide receiver depth chart, Beckham might not be

on it, Jarvis Landry might not be on it. This is a pick for the twenty twenty two season for the Browns, which is just kind of crazy that they're in this position where they can do that. They got a good roster include they do, and then they can have that luxury yeah, where they're they're planning forward. So

I don't even want to. I guess I can say this since it comes from our boss, But I just got a text that Nick Eatman said sources told him that they were going to select Anthony Schwartz at ninety nine. He absolutely was in consideration. Dang it, I was gonna be right. That would have been fun. So Anthony Schwartz to land and Monty Rice to Tennessee brings us up

to speed to number ninety three. As we are back on the radio side of things, into our number four past the ten o'clock hour Central time here on one oh five three, The Fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com Jeff cavitall the great Brian brought us the great Dame Brugler, Mister David Helmett, I'm Kyle Yeoman's thank you, thank you for leaving great off of that. I don't wow. Well, if I was, I would have to change it up. I would have to say great around the table. All

of you guys are great. I didn't know. I'm just trying to get invited. I'm definitely not great. It's fine, that's okay, Hey, that's I might be very wrong on him. We'll say, who's that? Malcolm Keuts the Buffalo. Buffalo soon already forgot who was I'm sorry. It was like trying to find Monty Rice here. Yeah, money Rice out of Georgia. What did you guys guys think about him? He was a little bit further down the list of line backers,

but still a good one. I'll tell you what. One of the most entertaining plays of the college football season. I'm trying to remember which Burner wide receiver I was watching Monty Rice try to cover all the way down the field on a post route. I think it was Waddle. It was either Waddle or Smith against Alaman. Yeah, and I was like, what happened on our Georgia defense? That this is Monty Rice's job. I mean he was running though he was moving. Wow, I did not realize he

was over six foot three. Is that an accurate height, Dane? I think so? Yeah? Okay, um okay, I thought he was shorter than that. Apologies, but I thought he was No, you are right, Yeah, I thought six three. Okay, so that type. I'm like, holy cow, he's a lot taller than the guy I thought I scouted. I was watching the wrong player, but I just I thought maybe fourth round and we're getting real close to the fourth round where there wasn't a lot about his game that really

jumped out at me. But he was solid And Dane, is there anything money Rice to the jumps off the tape to you? He could get through trash. Yeah, he's a freight train. Yeah he's gonna, he's gonna. There's there's a couple of times where he got bounced around a little bit, but he could get to the trash. And yeah, he's kind of one those he's really thick. I mean, he's a stout body type in that. But they play

in that rotating system. They got a lot of great players there at Georgia, so he just you know, he kind of comes and he comes out and but I was surprised he wasn't in on more tackles, you know. I mean, I think he has ability, but you just didn't always see him making every single tackle. I know we're watching highlights right now of him doing that, but I was, I was. I really respected his toughness, but I kind of thought there was more things that they

could have probably done to him. But I just didn't see the burst wide as I did straight ahead when he wanted to go straight ahead. There was a burst when he had to get to the outside. Though. It's it was a little bit of an iffy thing for him. Yeah he's uh coverage nah, but as a downhill player, as a banger, that that mentality, that's what he brings. So a little surprise he went off the board top

one hundred. But he's a solid player. So what do you think here for the Cowboys at ninety nine, I mean, Bill's Ravens, Bucks, Patriots, Charger Saints, Cowboys, Saint Brown. He's saying they're making bad pick Saint Brown. He's taking they're making bad big Obviously, I don't obviously at the end of the day. Uh my Stephen gen ptation there. Uh you know, I'm looking at my third round guys, and nobody wants to take him in the third round. So I mean, I you'll find out on your way home

some of these guys. I wonder about, guys like Brown, Browning and Cox and Perkins and Gaywell and Carter I mean, and Trey Smith that Jordan I'm what Tyler Wallace, I'm wondering about these guys, I really really am so I wonder about Elijah Molden. The most said about him too, Yeah, Jamara Johnson Rochelle from Quinn Miners, Central Arkansas. Right, Yeah, I mean he's in this late third round, early fourth rowne range. Sure. I like him a lot, che the guy,

I guess. The only guys that I'm like, really perplexed about and wondering are we going to hear something medical? Are we just gonna hear their names soon? Are Elijah Molden if you had to, Melafon Wu and Ronnie Perkins, the Oklahoma pass rusht Miners in there too. I mean, I know D three, but he was so dominant the senior blow. I just I thought he'd be off the board by now. He was so impressive at the Senior Bowl. I'm a little surprised by Ji brol Cox as well. Yeah,

that's that's a little surprising. That is get ready to bills or him here. And Browning isn't picked either, isn't that? Yeah? I guess that is a Browning. He's a physical freak. But just the Spencer Brown tackle out of Iowa or Northern Ioway. Excuse me for buffalo here another tackle? Didn't they take one of the first? Maybe not? No, they did edge. Yeah, and Spencer Brown's interesting because he's so raw. But you think of where he could be in two to three years, and it's really a two to three

year pick. He's not going to help you much this season. Uh, tight end, defensive lineman eight man football in high school. Played pretty well at right tackle. But he's still learning his frame, still understanding, you know, how to sink, how to play with an anchor, the biomechanics of his body type. Still still trying to figure that out. So he needs a lot of coaching before he's ready for NFL snaps. But you know here in the third round, you know

there's it's an upside pick. It's this late in the third, especially six to five and six six. I feel like her heights. He'll see a lot of offensive tackle. How often do you see six eight? Not often? All right? Well, along with those testing covers two four nine two in the forty. Yeah, it's not just six eight, Jeff, he's six eight and a half. Well, six eight in a quarters, I'm going by senior bowl. Oh okay, sorry, they're rulers

are broken, are they? Yeah? They're using yard sticks and then they just flip it over and then flip it over. And it's not exactly been putting their heels to get the one next to the other. Been that way in more times than I want to count. It's not whoever's measuring the arms missed that up a bunch this summer spraying. Excuse me, that would be great if it's just at

a bounce house. No, Hey, there was a tailgating canopy, you know the kind that you put out guys like the grounds crew, guys sitting up here like they're waiting to go into a game. We know the little over there, you know the little tents that they that you get for like tailgating in the parking lot. Yeah, there was one in the end zone. If there's one of those in the end zone, I don't I'm not interested. It's right there, it's right there, and they're going, I'm not interesting.

This is not normally when we lose it on the draft broadcast, but I think Brian's lost it and it's getting contagious, so we're gonna have it. Lost it. I'm just fast. It's a good player. Come on, he's he's a fine player. He sounds like what about DIGGI zoo though. I'm just saying that was the one that we liked the most. Everybody, Okay, there was there was a right now. I have taken it personally because I see, you guys know that there are better players on that board right now,

right when he was taken. Yeah, we all do, okay. I just want to make sure that I'm not the only fool in it. That was the point I was trying to make when we were on the internet and not just the radio. Is it. It seems like they're going for high floor guys so that they can contribute as quickly as possible, which I'm not saying that's the right thing to do, but that's what they're doing, and is it the wrong thing to do? Made it? I

think it. I don't know. It depends yeah, and you absolutely are and I don't think there's a way to answer it. But the point is the offense is going to carry this thing to where you want to go, and they're just it seems like they're just trying to fill the defense with guys that can play right now. And Stephen Jones alluded to that the other day. He was like, we need cheap players who can play, like we signed all of our big contract. That doesn't mean

you can't necessarily draft good players. I'm aware that's and that's what makes an interesting to say that to Osa and Gholston's face. I'm just saying I would be happy, Yeah, yeah, I hope they turn in to be really good player. It is, I mean, and that's that's part of the draft, is ceiling versus floor. Like I would have absolutely all day, every day, taken Oklahoma's rusher Ronnie Perkins over Gholston or a diggi Zuowa, because I think you've got better tools

and traits there for a pass rusher. But then he as an undersized edge guy, didn't test as a great athlete, and so it's like you go back and forth on all these different things and just figure out which one to pick. I'm glad that guys that weren't at the top of my board that they picked were players I like, because that's fair. At least they have positive notes and I'm like, Okay, that's that's that's a player. They gave you a Cavanaugh guy with Kelvin Joseph. Okay, yeah, and

they're gonna give me another one. We're gonna get Marvin or or Darius. At one point prior tomorrow they made that Yeah, yeah, giant. Yeah. This guy's a maller. I mean, he was a lot. He was actually kind of fun to watch, just beat people up going to Baltimore. By the of course he's going to Baltimore. It's one of those guys. Look at it's Kansas City next. Who's the next best player on the board. Let's take care cities

a little bit further down. Okay, should we take an early break here to beat the Cowboys pick at ninety nine. It's probably a good idea. We gotta wait till sixteen to take it. Yeah, let's ahead and take a break. Stepping aside you're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one of five three the Fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. So the Buccaneers now on the clock at ninety five after the Ravens took Being Cleveland out of Georgia. Brian, you really like Being Cleveland Dane? How

do you feel about it? I do like him. I mean he has such a uh, you know, impressive body type. Just how I mean, he's three large, three hundred forty pounds and he's not overweight at all like that, just really really impressive. They call him Big Country for a reason. I think he's a guard only. I don't think he gives you much versatility there. And you know, I think there's some there have been some, you know, questions about does he love fishing more in football that type of thing.

Here we go, there we go. But besides that, I mean, he is a he's a really quality player who you know, you look at the Ravens in their offensive line, they could use some help at left guard, and I think he's gonna give it to him, all right, I mean, if you're asking him. And I love it in Baltimore because in Baltimore it's like pass, protect, and tee off in the run game, right, Like that works for him if you're not asking him to do a lot of

pull in and things that are gonna require athleticism. You're just like, hey, big country, go be a big country that works. Hulk, go smash so incept when we don't want to smash. Try to keep it under control with your emotions, Hulk. Robert Hanzi out of Notre Dame. The offense of tackle goes to Tampa Bay Dane. I want a big board check here with the Cowboys coming up. No best player available hasn't been the pick so far,

but they're four selections away done. I'm gonna I hate oh, I hate to say this for it, I kind of agree with Brian just in the sense of, like, I'm not as mad about it as Brian is, but I feel completely lost, Like I don't know what to expect. I don't know what they're gonna do. We gotta mean they're doing whatever the hell they want to do. We still have some offensive linemen out here that could be quality players. James Hudson, de'ante Smith. Uh, those are certainly

possibilities there. It's okay, let's look at my top ten available, Elijah Molden. Something's wrong there, either that or they don't want a short guy. Quinn Miners. Yeah, but the whole league doesn't want a short guy. I guess that's the case. I maybe there's something medical there. We'll figure that out if you ought to. Melofon wu A Mon Ross, Saint Brown, Kenneth Gainwell, Marlon tweet bloplu. I didn't say that right at all. Dante Brown, Uh, Brevin Jordan, Ronnie Perkins, Bill Cox.

Those are my ten best available at this point. I'd pretty safe to say they're not going Perkins just with you know. I mean maybe they could and load up on defensive line, but I doubt it. Uh, just keep coming back the offensive line, you know, get better, add depth. That's what you do when you have three third round picks, right, Hudson Smith, I like, I like Tray Smith more, Jayleen Moore, I mean yeah, I mean I don't know about the risk you guys. I watched those guys play, some guys

play offensive tackle last year. I'm like, what, Okay, who Cowboys? Cowboys? Yeah? Yeah, I'm like who, what? Right? What are we doing there? And that's exactly why you you know, draft and develop. You add depth pieces that you can at least count on in the case that you do need him out there. What's going on with a monra of Saint Brown? If we're gonna look at a wide receiver here, he's the top one on my board. But yeah, yeah, that's true. I didn't even look at Tallus. The knee. I think

that's the issue. There, a nagging knee issue. I think you're in the range for Saint Brown. I think watching him this past year playing outside, I think that's actually kind of discouraging maybe to some NFL teams. But when you watch him play the slot, you go, yep, that's where he goes. So if Saint Brown is good healthwise, I would imagine he won't be too far away. He's kind of the Chauncey Golston on offense. If there's nothing special about him, he just kind of does his job

and it's pretty solid. Entering the final couple picks of Day two of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, on one of five three, the fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Kavan O'Brien brought us we've got Dan Brugler and David Hellman with you. Glad you're with us, and the Patriots are on the at the moment. Following the Patriots, it'll go Chargers Saints Cowboys, as the Cowboys

will make their fifth selection of the NFL Draft. Will run down what they've got already Michael Parsons, linebacker out of Penn State, Kelvin Joseph the corner out of Kentucky, followed by osa Odigi Zuwa defensive tackle from UCLA, and Chauncey Gholston edge from Iowa. Jeff biggest need for the Cowboys heading into this pick is goie. I like what everybody's saying about the offensive line, but I just want

to guard or a tackle. Well, I wonder how the staff feels about those guys like Terrence Steele and Brandon Knight. And you brought in a swing tackle from Washington, So I actually think you can survive if you don't do anything on the offensive line if it's not the best player available. So it makes sense to pick one. But you've already gonna have one of the Connors as a backup guard, and you do have Steel Night. And give me the name of the swing tackle that they signed. Yeah,

like you got guys. I know it was really ugly last year when you lost everybody. So I just I wonder did they view that as a spot where you would where you don't believe that Steel or Knight has developed or is developing the way that you want, and you do want to go that direction. I don't think they need a guard when you've got Zack Martin, one of the Connors starting, and one of the Connors backing up.

Although Mike mc Mike McCarthy said that he thought that they would draft a lineman during this draft, and I mean the question was about interior line, so that obviously that doesn't mean they will, but something to consider. Patriots are making their selection at the moment. New England, of course, with a couple of Alabama products early on with Mac Jones, who did they take in the second round? Moore? That was the other Alabama product. They've had a pretty solid

draft so far. Do you think the Cowboys took two big swings in the first two rounds and they were like, man, these are high upside. If this hits, we're gonna be in such good shape. And then they got to the third, the guys, I feel we scale it back a little bit, get a little safe here. Literally, Yeah, that's the impressional good player. Ronnie Perkins, edge rusher out of Oklahoma goes off the board at ninety six. That's a real pin throw for Jeff Kavanaugh. Yeah, one of my favorite plays

of watching tape. And I don't want to pretend that like he dominated him all day, but one of my favorite plays is Tevin Jenkins, the Oklahoma state right tackle who just bullies everybody and he got long armed and just thrown by Ronnie Perkins. So he's interesting because on tape, I guess I thought he would have tested a little better than he did athletically, so he's not a really a full size edge and the athletic testing is going to tell you that he's not a great change of

direction guy and he's a four seven forty. But it works on the field. I mean he affects the pocket, he makes plays in the backfield. I like Ronnie Perkins a lot. And do you think the athletic testing moved him down at all, Brian or Dane or do you think this is where he was going to go? I think there's some questions about him character wise because his six games suspension. He had a six game suspension part

of it. And we think that for marijuana. So marijuana, I'd like to go on record that marijuana is not a character concern. Well that's but that's what Oklahoma thought it was. So, you know, coaches swear by this guy. They say he loves football. I was talking to people about him. I mean, he does everything to try and get ready to play. He does come off the ball in a hurry. I mean, there's some impressive first step quickness. I thought he might have been a little stiff, but

that wasn't the case. The more I watched him, though. You see him Ben, you see him get around the edge. He could put the block in a bad position with his rush. He could work under a round blocks. He's gonna dip, he's gonna get low. It's impressive the way he's able to chase the ball, try get down to hurry. I really, I think there's a lot of things that are very positive about him. It. You know, I thought he could be a fit for four to three or

three four. Somebody's gonna play him at defensive end, somebody's gonna play him a outside linebacker. He went to a team that they're gonna play both out of three four and four three to get ready for that. You're gonna play everywhere in England. Get ready for that. Trey McKitty from Georgia goes off the board. By the way, Oklahoma, Ronnie Perkins, how long has it been since we've seen an Oklahoma player lasting until the ninety sixth overall pick. Wow,

he was the first Sooner, first Sooner off. Okay, everybody, never mind, I forgot about Kyle. That's on me. I'm Kyle. Kyle's trying to talk bad about the Sooners. That's all why this is why you don't get invited to the Crawfish. Oh, I'm sorry, it's been I thought that that was a Louisiana thing. But that's okay for a few days for the Big twelve. Yeah, got shut out of the first round, and they've got a few guys today. So what do

you think about Trey McKitty. By the way, the Broncos are on the clock now after a trade with the Saints earlier in the draft at ninety eight, and then it's the Cowboys on the clock at nine. This guy's a transferred from a grad transfer from Florida State right, Yes, And I thought this best film was at Florida State. Then it was that Georgia. He was barely you he was underutilized both spots. Yeah, you know, he's a good player who was not really allowed to show it very often.

Surprise he's drafted here ahead of Brevin Jordan and some some of the tight ends. But he's a good player who I think could be a better pro than college player because it's it's based on, you know, his opportunities. And he's a good blocker, a competent pass catcher. A little surprise he's going this early, but a solid player. He had a nice one handed catch in the Senior Bowl, so I remember watching that. But yeah, this is about

ten feet from me. Yeah, this guy, I don't think he's I don't think he's the best route runner, but he could he could make it play up the seam or when the throws when the film a screen. They had some like delayed screens and stuff like that. I thought he was pretty good at but he can make some moves in the open field to gain some positive

yards for a guy his size. Steven Jones, I think they they've made their because Steven Jones has a stokey ready, Stephen Jones is like a good job, everybody, We're done for the night, which I think that's stokey cost more over under forty bucks. I think it's what you don't think. It's just a run of the mill. We were thirty when two thousand and five it was like thirty bucks. You get the you saved the really good ones for

Saturday night, right, Yeah. Yeah, I'm at oh Man at Valley Ranch back when it was a little more tightly together on Saturday night. You could smell the cigar stow coming from the war room like one hundred feet away. So the Broncos selection just around the corner here at ninety eight that the Cowboys will officially I guess they're already officially on the clock and they've already officially made

their selection. And the time or the draft where what's actually happened way behind, fifteen minutes ahead of ye we're way behind. So Quinn miner go Dane all time. There you go, Dane, it was at ninety eight. That's a good player. I mean it's such a unique situation because, uh, you know, based off the nineteen film looked like a late rounder, but then he you know, has a season taken out from under him. He spends the year working with trainers, working with uh, you know, different coaches to

get him in game ready. Shape goes to the Senior Bowl and just dominates a little surprise, he lasted this long, but that's to the pronco's advantage. They get a really good player. So now the Cowboys on the clock. Brian, what are you thinking here? I don't know. Seriously, we're all kind. I'm glad. I'm sad you asked me that question. Sorry, because seriously, I I don't know. I really don't. And I want to believe that I can name I can name about ten guys right now. I'd love for him

to take and it won't be one. It won't be one of I just know you're right, yeah and that, and it's been that kind of week. I don't know if you guys sound like you're just I'm just kind of there too. Actually, I just, well, do we got it's it's it's to me. I just maybe it's me because I'm frustrated myself about where the players they've taken where I had them. You know, when if the last two guys I've had both guys have been in the fourth round. They were third round players. So I'm frustrated

with myself for I think you've lost it. I don't know. I guess I don't even care about that. I get like, I don't care about my opinion of the players. I just want to know what they're gonna do. And to go back to Dane's point, it's all about the breadcrumbs, man, and clearly we don't have enough of them because everything they've done since they I knew I was dialed in on Kelvin Joseph and everything that's happened since then is a mystery and doesn't follow anything that I was expecting,

nothing at all. And I would have never guessed Kelvin Joseph in a million years after the White Point, after the Micah Parsons pick, Okay, I would have never guessed that you would have a guy where they were. People had questions about off the field, that they would take it. Yeah, but they said that dude can cover. We're gonna take that dude. I think they really said, we need a freaking cornerback and we gotta do what we gotta do,

and that dude can cover. Well, yeah, that's that's part of the two and so now when you get to this pick, it's like, all right, so they went big swing, big swing, bunt, bunt, and now what do you do. I need to hear your analogy for whatever this pick is. Okay, well it depends who it is. Yeah, And I don't want spoilers. People. People keep trying to text me picks three minutes before it happens, and I don't want to know.

I want to see the pick and we'll react. Well, we are going to react to it because they're walking up to the stand right now. The final pick of Day two of the NFL Draft for the Dallas Cowboys at ninety nine. The Cowboys will select Please tell me I heard of him. Please tell me I heard of him. That's all I ask. Cornerback Nashan right out of Oregon States. Never heard of him? Come on, Dane. Wow, So Dane's stumped.

That's a non combine tramp or invite. By the way, transfer from Laney College in the City College of Frisco, older brother of Last Chance You Star was genreight. This guy is really unique. I mean, uh, you don't see many six four corners, that's what he is. Y to were trying to find our Brandon Browner here. Is that what's happening? Basically? Yeah, okay, that's what he is. Can he be Brandon Browner? Because if he is, I'm on board. He's he's intriguing. Uh, he didn't. I mean, the testing

numbers were just okay, weren't great. Uh, but it's just funny watching him out there because he literally towers over receivers and it's just a weird sight to see him out there because he's so tall, but he's very light footed with how he moves. Obviously, the length is outstanding and helps him be destructive. Uh. Five interceptions the last two years. So he was my thirty eighth ranked corner. I did not have a big raid on him, thy eighth ranth corner. Yeah, I let him have fun. Hey,

I did one hundred and ninety players this year. I did not do this player. Okay, let me let me read you the my final three sentences from his report. Right, is not a quick twitch mover, but he stays light on his feet to slide open and run down field with receivers. He's still relatively new to the cornerback position. He's a former receiver and it shows at times. As

he struggles to stay square or ahead of receivers. Overall Right is a long and lanky athlete who is still developing his instincts and technique, but his length and ball skills are interesting foundational traits for a classic press band corner prospect. And what gray did you have on him? What round did you have on him? Because I mean he's a late round type of Yeah, because I tried to study every draftable player you had. Yeah, I really did. Yeah,

that's so. I mean, if we're if we're just peeling the curtain ball watched the guy to night. When to get home? I can't Hey, look, I can't kill the pick or the guy because I never heard of him. All right, I gotta watch Benjamin Saint Juice. That's the type of guy, you know, long, lanky, light act had sat Juice just like player, like if you're three hundred,

you had him a like one. Yeah. Two. They just showed a highlight of him chasing a slant and he tried to tackle the guy and fell off the tackle and someone else tackled him and that was a highlight. I'm just wanting to know, I Dan Dane will always be modest, but and and Dane. Dane's not always going to be right, but he's His track record speaks for itself absolutely. So look, if this guy turns out to be a good player, I'll be very wrong because I got a seventh round grade on him. But uh I did.

I did not like dislike him, you know, watching him play, I just I think he's a raw player. Uh, that's gonna take some time. So you know, if you're looking for a guy that's gonna help you right now, I don't think this guy's it. But when we look back at this pick in three years, could absolutely end up being a steel because I think there are foundational traits there that you can develop. But this is a surprise

to see him as a top one hundred pick. I I admire every ounce of what you just told me because that took a lot for you to make me feel a little bit better. But you also didn't like him enough to put him ahead of thirty seven other corners in this draft. I just wanted to let you know that point, and that's that's very true. That doesn't mean that Afrey Thomas Wade you know, yeah, Hey, it's interesting. I heard a suggestion that this name could be called

and full always full disclosure. I'm nothing if not honest. I don't watch six hundred players. So the first thing I did flipped open my book went down there, and I just got sadder and sadder the longer down the list that went, which I glad to admit I'm wrong, because I've made a career being wrong. But now now I'm to the point where I'm just like, okay, is this Brian's getting read? All right? And now I'm okay, I am. I'm like he led the team in interceptions

both years. I mean, there are things to like about him. Um, but again, it's just it's a it's an upside pick. It's a guy that you're looking at the raw traits and you're saying, Okay, what can we mold this kid into a former wide receiver who you know, just again, rare to have a six four guy that can have the light feet and move like he can. He's he bounced around a couple of different colleges before he arrived at Oregon State. He's just really interesting that That's the

best way I can kind of describe. By the way, the pick after the Cowboys Sean Right, Elijah Molden goes off the board to Tennessee, which that one kind of hurts, is it? Is it fair to say this is? This has got to just be doing. You're either your defensive coordinator or your DB's coaches solid right, you like it. It reminds me of Kavanaugh. Honestly, Kavanaugh was like our Darius Washington. I don't care how tall he is. Get

him on my damn team. And I'm just imagining we do have Naean right on the phone as he is the newest pick and the newest Dallas Cowboy. Nashan. First off, congratulations, welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. What's going through your mind right now? So I don't even know. I couldn't feel my legs right now. Uh, this happy. I'm more than happy. My dad family of originally from Texas. I lost my dad, So just being able to go to Texas amazing. Congratulations man.

So I'm curious, you know, we we do this months on end, and no disrespect to you, but you definitely weren't very much on our radar. I'm just curious if you've had a connection with the Cowboys who you've been talking to here, um, just what this process has been like for you as it pertains to the Dallas Cowboys. It's been amazing. I got a chance to speak with the defensive coordinator dan Quinn and the defensive back coach Alum and the talks for it, I mean they were

great talks. Uh we uh kind of just connected just to do the type of person I was, and and I didn't really get to talk to my football but uh yeah, where where are you at right now? You talk about your family being a part of this or being down from Texas, rather what's the scene like and what's the celebration like for you guys right now? It's not even all my family, but the family that I do have her going crazy or home in my mom's house.

Uh yeah, it's a very an Ados like we're just going crazy right now to dance and I have to actually get away to walk out there. That's great. Which and you know you mentioned dan Quinn, that's when we heard your name called. You know what I think about with dan Quinn is these you know, these tall cornerbacks and obviously you you fit that bill really well. What what um just in general? What is it about your game that that you think appealed to the Cowboys and

what do you think you bring to this team? Uh stepping in here? Well yeah, so uh just I mean I'm six four, so it's rare. Uh I'm an anomaly, so uh just being able to get my hands out at the line of scrimmage. And of course, I mean you know where dan Quinn comes from. We know type of defenses he like. So uh, I just feel like I just fit perfectly in that system. So uh just a blessing to end up undercoat dan Quinn and uh

a Dallas Cowboys. We're talking to de Sean Right, newest draft pick for the Dallas Cowboys here on one O five three to Fanning Dallas Cowboys dot Com. De Sean, you talk about fitting into that system. What kind of system did you specifically run during your time at Oregon State and how do you think that'll translate to the pros. We were like a multi skin defense. We ran anywhere from zero to six. So, um, just my my versatility. Uh,

it's definitely going to help me being able. I played a lot of man coverage at Orgies State, so um, I mean I could do it all. So I feel like I anywhere, but Dallas is just a perfect fit. I've been talking, go for it. Continue. Sorry, didn't mean to cotch you off there. Yeah, Like for some reason, I had a gut feeling that I was gonna get that call from Dallas. It happened. I just on it just felt right, The situation felt right. The coach talking

have with coach Quinn was great. So it's just so right. When did you have that conversation with coach Quinn? Immediately after my pro day? Talked to him maybe for about fifteen twenty minutes. We just kind of connected on the personal level. He talked about football just a little bit, but more so just the type of kid I was. Well, Naean, congratulations on the afternoon and into the evening here. We are excited to have you as a part of the Cowboys and we'll talk to you again soon. Yeah, sir,

welcome back to Texas man. Yeah absolutely, Nasan right knewest draft pick for the Dallas Cowboys, selected at ninety nine over all in the third round here on Day two. Couple of updates following the right pick. Melofon Wu cornerback from Syracuse goes at one oh one to the Lions, and at one oh two corner Ambrey Thomas from Michigan goes so corner corner, corner, corner, one ninety nine through one oh two here for the Dallas Cowboys. Well, after hearing from that sweet young man, I hope that he

has a wonderful career. But my guess is history will not look back fondly on being picked right before Elijah Molden, Melofon and Ambrey Thomas. The beauty, the beauty of the draft, right, we never know. Well, what happens is you start to see the run and people, you know, they're gonna sleep on their board tonight and they're gonna look at all those you know, the teams at the end here in

the Compensis toy. Yeah, you could trade these picks, but you could also you're in a situation where when you when you go to bed tonight, you're gonna look up there and you're gonna say, Okay, at least we don't have to take care of this this. This guys are knocking out their players right now, and they're gonna be ready tomorrow when this thing kicks off and have a a good run at it. And I feel like some teams,

I especially live the last three picks. As we get to this point, Molden, Melofon and Thomas huge fan of all three of those players. Look like I know a lot of people read my draft guide and will base their opinions on players based off of what I write, And so I hope people will go go check out tape of this guy, go find highlights. Yeah, go go. I hope people go look at him because you know, yes, I had a later round grade on him, but you know what I've been wrong before, could be wrong again.

Hopefully I want people to form their own opinions and not going strictly based on my evaluation that and you know it, maybe maybe I'm soft. I don't know, like I'm not. I don't want to kill and not someone I don't care about hurting the front offices feelings, but like the player, like it's not his fault, happy guy draft, and I don't blame him. The thing with that, too is wow, I feel like I completely lost my train of thought. Oh no, I'm back, I got it back.

The point is is, like so many people and Dan, it's not your fault either, but people are gonna open you just like I did. I opened your book, scrolled way down on the list and thought, oh no, if this is not great, but yeah, I mean you're not infallible and so not at all. Yeah, you know, at the very least, I owe it to this guy to go sit down and watch a game or two seeing and I hope a lot of people take that same attitude.

And I do think that he said something very smart and that he could have went to a lot of places, but he went here. And the scheme I think fits really well with you know, you think of Pete Carroll and everything they had in Seattle, and you mentioned Browner. That's a good example just at the height the length ability to fit that scheme. If he's going to succeed, this is the scheme to do it. So him out playing right graded him would not be a huge surprise.

Let's go ahead and take a break here. We have gone just about three more picks left here in day two, looking ahead to day three, we're gonna go. Here's some secret audio on the other side of the break. When we return, you're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one to five three to fan and Dallas Cowboys dot com. So there's a lot to unpack here. To say the least, I think a day too. I mean,

I don't. I'm not trying to cut you off, Kyle, go for it you, Jeffrey, and again Kyle, not disrespecting you, but you three that I've done this with for a long time. How have you ever felt this just thrown for a loop by what they did on a particular day. I kind of thought I had an idea what Rod MIRNELLI had going. You know, when defensive coordinator gets involved, you're not always going to be happy about what they do, but we typically see it coming or try to have

a good idea of what's going to happen. Again, the lack of Brett crumbs, you know, we keep coming back to that. We don't have a thirty list to be a poor over. You don't have the list of who they met at the combine. Uh. There's so many pieces to the usual puzzle the process that we just don't have this year. So it's you know, a guy like right, Uh, you know, well that's a name that I mean, Jeff you said you'd never heard that name, right, Yeah, I mean, and I'm sure a lot of fans the same thing.

In a normal year, we probably would have heard, you know, more fans would have heard that name before because he might have been a thirty visit or a private workout guy. It's a really good point, Ernest. Ernest Jones, a linebacker from South Carolina is going to the Rams, and I have heard him and I like him. And that's the tough part, Like it's not gonna be like it's it's easy to just go, oh, I've never heard of him.

He must be terrible, and then see the names of all of these guys that I do like that are going off the board, and it's like, well, this isn't gonna end well. But tonight I will go home and I will watch him. There's no question we will see. That might be the top topic tomorrow to start the show is probably what did we see from what we saw from I already forgot. Oh no, come on, Kyle, I didn't have enough in front of me. I'm sorry. Oh wow, this is I mean it is. It's interesting.

I don't think any of us are upset with the way that the first two picks turned out. With the situation that was at hand, Michael Parsons, they did an okay job of trading back and taking probably the best player available at that point on their board. I mean, of course, we probably would have done something different with

with Rashaans later with somebody else there. However, we kind of, like Dave said, expected that pick to happen right whenever the situation came at hand, we said, okay, they're going to trade back and probably take Parsons here. I was hoping for rashawon Slater, so were we all? Yeah, But I thought that with the trade down and getting the best linebacker in the draft. I was like, Okay, this can work. Let's see what the trade doown nets you.

And the trade Doown netted number eighty four, and number eighty four was Chauncey Galston. So I don't mind get Chauncey Gholston for free for moving down two spots and probably picking the same guy they were going to pick um. But o Dicky Zoo obviously was not the top d tackle I had, right, was not the top corner that I had. So some of their picks I'll look at it at the moment and go really, and we'll see

if that opinion on right changes overnight. I'm just I'm laughing because like before they drafted right, we you know, I'm trying to be all smart and figure out what they're doing, Like, well, they're drafting high floor guys. They need guys that can go right now. And then that I mean, we'll see if he's we'll see if he's better. But based on what we know about I'm like, that's

that's a gamble sure as healthy. I will say I think that for me, the biggest mistake they will have made in this draft is going O Dicky Zoo at seventy five and then another guy who I think is a scheme fit here that's a really good player in Pauls and Nadibo went to pick after. Yeah, you could have had him at seventy five and I would be feeling a lot different a lot of that draft. Well, you probably could have got a Giza with the next pick, Gholston with his pick after that. Yeah, you might have

been able to just keep following it. Yeah, and then taken right in the seventh. I don't know that I haven't seen him. We're just going off Dane. Oh gosh, Dane is a real jerk to you know, I do I feel bad? Who else? Who else? Who else even does as many prospects as Dane? Nobody, nobody, well maybe NFL teams. Maybe there might there might not be another.

I'm like, I'm sure there's not something. It's gonna do a mock draft for next year after this thing and then start two weeks later on tape no I. And my only point was like, Dane might be the only outside, only member of the media who has a report on this guy. I like, I don't know. You know, Buddy Jonah saw him and he said he liked him, had him. He's like a fourth round guy. So there's somebody that's seen him and liked him. Okay, so that's good. By

the way. Baron Browning, Ohio state linebacker goes as the final selection of the third round at one oh five to the Denver Broncos. And that was another guy that, at least before the Micah Parsons pick, was rumored to have been in conversation with the Dallas Cowboys. I wonder if they talked about him leading up to that pick. Day two has come to a close of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft as we continue our wall to wall coverage on one oh five three The Fan and

Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The final picks after the Cowboys select Nashon Wright, at pick number ninety nine, the corner out of Oregon State, Elijah Molden Melafon move from Syracuse

goes at one oh one. The forty nine ers take Ambrey Thomas the corner from Michigan, Ernest Jones linebacker from South Carolina, Brandon Stevens corner from SMU and then the final pick of the third round, Baron Browning, linebacker out of Ohio State and Kennadale High School product from over near Fort Worth, and he goes to round out round number three. Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Cabin O'Brien brought us Dame Bruegler and David Hellman rounding out what is a wild day to a unique day to to say the least

about the NFL Draft. And there's a lot to talk about, Dave whenever it comes to the Dallas Cowboys and some of the selections that they made. Will hear from of course the front office pretty soon about it. But you take four picks into the night, you come out with four picks, no trading up, no trading back. But what

did you think overall of the day? Um, well, I already I said at the top, like this is which is ironic because like we nailed the first one, like we were on Kelvin Joseph Quick and I felt good about that, and I haven't. I haven't felt so thrown for a loop by a Cowboys draft day in a long time. It's like they clearly like their guys. Itn't didn't always line up with what we thought. But my second impression on that is, you can't say they didn't

address the defense. My god, they haven't gone offense one time. They did. I mean, and we've said so many times, you're like, they're not all going to be defensive picks, like they're going to draft attack or a receiver. I thought, I thought they're gonna take an offensive tackle. They might have thought about it, but literally they've how many have they made? Five? They've made five five five defenders, probably four of which are good enough to contribute right away.

We think, yes, let's hear from one of those selections in the secret audio. This might be a fun one. I think Nashan right the final pick of the day for the Dallas Cowboys, as he was selected at ninety nine. No, Sean, listen, this is Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys. How we just decided to pick you, and you're now we're turning your card in. You're gonna be a Dallas cowboy. Yeah, let's go. You've bet. Hey, where are you right now?

Where are you? I'm home. I'm our home of Stockton, California and Stockton Okay, buddy, well listen, we are excited about having you, really are. And we were, we were, we were, we were doing a lot of consternation. So come come in here and uh be one of the greatest length of corners ever played. All right, okay, okay, here's your coach, Ny sean coach from Carthy. How are you going? Hey, congratulations, are you around family and friends? Thank you? Well, hey, man, I just want you to

come in here and be yourself. You're you're. It's a great fit. We're gonna we're gonna coach a let and you're gonna be part of a championship football team. All right, man, Oh I love it, I love it. Enjoy this moment. All right? All right? But bye. So that's the secret audio. And I mean we knew it was going to be a surprise for right. Probably it was a surprise to us. It was a surprise to right. That's a great moment. I love, like everybody's excited on the draft call, but

for him to literally yell, let's go in. Jerry Jones is here, Jerry said, let's go, let's go back. I'm I'm rooting for this guy because, like we said, it's it's not his fault. Like if if the Cowboys are wrong, we can roast him for it later. But I'm not going to root against this dude because I don't want to feel right. Let's just have a feel a better athlete than what we saw with Robinson at a Tulsa

last year. Kind of a long, tall corner. Any any any comparison there, Dane, with what we what we have now, well and we think of Okay, the Robinson pick was for a different scheme, you know, a different uh defensive coaching staff. So this all it comes down to is you know, you look like I'm putting you on the spot here. I'm sorry about this, no, but I mean the thing is with Robinson, we just don't know enough.

I don't you know, we don't don't know enough about how he progress as a rookie, what he's gonna look like in year two. A lot of question marks with him, with right. I think, you know, like we talked about, he is a kind of the prototype for a intriguing raw prospect in that Dan Quinn scheme. A guy that can play the cover three. It can be a press man guy if you want him to. But the light feet, the length, you know, it's just it's a really interesting pick.

That interesting, I think, is the word I keep coming back to, because there's nothing about him that says like, oh, he's not going to be a good pro He's just very, very raw, and so it will take a little bit of time. But again, he said it himself. Six four corners. That's rare, and it's not like he's listed at six four and he's really six one and a half. He's a legit six four. He towers over wide receiver. So

a really interesting player. I'm gonna really put you on the spot because they did this a couple of years ago with Chris Westry. Yeah, he's similar. I think Westrey was more like six two sixty three. Yeah, Kentucky. But I don't know how how do those two compare. What do you think about that as a you know, whether this guy's got more upside? Maybe I think he's got more upside. Yeah, I think he's a guy that has

yet to play his best football. When you watch him, he's again a former wide receiver, so he's still learning the ins and outs of the position. There are times where he just looks lost, but there are other times where his athleticism allows him to stay in phase and recover quickly. So when you have that length, you're able to cast a wide net in as a run defender, in pass coverage, you're able to make plays down the field.

So just a really fascinating player that I did not expect to be off the board here on Day two. So I don't think he did either. No, No, I don't. I don't think. So. There's a couple of people tagging us all in these tweets about Nashan Wright and what he brings to the table. This is a good one though, about PF Nashan Wright and zone coverage. Last season, completion percentage just over forty five percent, he allowed forty two

yards and his passer rating was eighteen flat. Okay, so those are good numbers in zone coverage, really good numbers to say the least. And then he's also got a lot of ball production as well. Had an interception against Oregon. It looks like has a track background. Of course he

wasn't really talked about much. But I mean there's at least people pointing in the direction of this guy who've watched more than we have, and you are saying, hey, there's uh, there's some good things about it, including what Dame Brugler just said. But now that the day is concluded, we're going into day three, and of course still six more picks to make tomorrow. I mean there's a lot to go on. The Cowboys first on the clock in the fourth round at one fifteen. What do we think

from here? I mean, I know, Dave, you just said it. You've never been thrown for a loop quite like this. I don't. I don't know, man, where do we go? I'm supposed to be the analyst. I mean, there's a lot there's a lot of great players left on the board, but sure a lot of them have been there since pick yea seventy five, So I mean, you know, there's there's some good receivers there. They need to address the

offensive line. I think they will Smith two guys think you know the fourth side was another guy mentioned makes waste too much sense to draft a tackle and they'll have they'll have two picks in the fourth, so they got a chance to do some of that, and that's you know, I don't you know, it's it was important to add talent on defense. But I'd like to think that now that they've gotten some of that out of the way again, go back to the two picks that we say, high floor Goldston and no O Diggi Zuoa.

So maybe now if you're like, Okay, these guys are we think these guys can contribute right away, maybe they maybe they go back to more of that BPA attitude now that they've addressed some of this stuff. But I have to admit I'm just guessing because I feel clueless right now. Best player available for me I'm monros st Brown at a USC. I think the most surprising though might beat Jibril Cox. Yeah, that's my top one. I was not the biggest j. Broll Cox fan just because

so many mistakes versus the runs really bothered me. But as a coverage player he was really solid, So to see him here still available out to the first two days pretty surprising. Um Kenneth Gainwell, BREVND, Jordan Jante Brown, j T. File. A couple of these players are more surprising than another. Brian brought up Cox and Browning's gone now, But Brian brought those two up all the way back

in the second round, I think third round. Yeah, I wonder if you eventually get to like a blinking light type of situation where like, if Jabril Cox is there when they pick at one fifteen tomorrow, would they do it just because that's ridiculous value? Yeah, I don't just me thinking out lot well, and I know, like when I was working on my seven round mock, you know, I I always distributed it to a few different teams and I'm close with and say, hey, what do you think?

What do you think? And I know one team came back and said, oh, you got Cox way too low. He's not getting out of the top forty. So it's like, okay, well now he's out of the top one hundred. Whoever

told you that passed on him? That's what I'm like, Okay, well, you know, did something late come up medically or you know, it's just a curious curious thing if he's there one fifteen, though, you could take a chance you've picked five players already, right, I would like that's that's kind of my point is like, Okay, Parsons and Calvin Joseph, you're hoping are going to start right away, right yeah? And then you got O DIGGI Zooa and Gholston maybe not starters, but guys that you

think can contribute. So we've addressed I guess you still need a safety. Well, you don't really need a safety because you have these three vets that they signed if you include Keyan O'Neil. So I would like to think that they are open to a more pure BPA approach tomorrow because other than offensive tackle, they've hit all of

the really big problem spots. Right yeah. I guess the only guy that I think kind of stands out like a blinking light in terms of what they're trying to do, because when you're bringing in a six four corner, you are announcing hello, cover three is I think Jamar Johnson would fit in the end safety. I think you could play free safety. Now if ten people miss a tackle, the guy's going to score because Jamar Johnson can't tackle. He's a very choosy tackler, but he can't cover and

make plays on the poll. I mentioned the guys too, because of those safeties. I still have Gillespie on there, and I know we watched that. You know, I mean, to me, there's some guys with Wartz, you know, Gillespie. Washington's a guy I had. I mean, I was sweet Sweetheartarius. I was shitting him at some point. I was expecting that. I was expecting him to go at the end of the third, I really was. I was Washington from TCU, and I think I think the height and then probably

what he ran into forty. But again it's about you know, if you watch the tape, watch these kids play, and I don't know to me, and that's why I'm excited. I'm gonna watch the kid from Oregon and try and learn about him. You're gonna want to find Oregon State organ he plays Oregon against Oregon. They said it's always noticed a civil war, but it was a pick in a cover three. I was gonna let him off the hook. But you're just not I'm not very I'm not very

charitable mood right now. I don't know. I was talking to Jeff. Jeff's the one over there. But it's just like I said, that's that's the thing that you know, and maybe I'm making it a two personal thing. But I just when you evaluate players, you know, you evaluate them, you think, okay, this guy, because look what happened after that kid went, the Oregon State kid went, all those corners went. It was just Bank and every one of

those guys I had right where they took him. And I'm like going, Okay, maybe I'm not a complete idiot here, you know. So that's you know, I just feel like that if you take players and they probably know a hell of a lot more than me, you know, so I'll be interested to see how it all turns out. There's still a lot of draft left to be had. Today or tomorrow's the day of the scouts. Brian brought does that should make you feel better? You've got some

snicker bars? You're not you when you're hungry? Doesn't He doesn't feel better because he doesn't trust that he's gonna happens to a good point. You've got You've got five more chances, six more chances to get it right tomorrow. So the Cowboys still a lot of draft left to be had. There was a chuckle there. I heard that

that's true. Oh that's gonna do it for us? Here on Day two special thanks to our friends over at Miller Lite, our friends at Snickers, our friends at Dallas Cowboys youth camps and football and Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders youth camps, and well, we've had a lot of fun today, a lot of guessing, guessing and a lot of pondering heading into day three and a bad guessing, but bad guessing. Yeah, swings and misses from us today. We'll try and be better tomorrow and see what we can do. But we

were great. That's true. It's all about us, Jeff cavanall that's exactly right. Were right where we want to be for Jeff Cavanaugh, Brian brought us, Dame Burglar, David Hellman, I'm Kyle Elmas. We'll see you tomorrow ten am Central time. We get things started as Day three of the NFL Draft is here. But until then, that's it for us here on one of five to three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.