Draft Show: Most Overrated & Underrated Players

gonna start getting guys building their draft boards. Some teams have started to build their draft boards. This team that we worked for has not yet done that. Will McClay did stop by. He said hello to the troops yesterday. I love that guy. Yeah, so it's nice to have an opportunity to visit with him a little bit about what's going on. And you are with the Draft show. Brian brought us Dane Brugler from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Dave Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com,

Kent Garrison, Executive producer. Today, guys, I want to get into this, Dave, you and I this morning and Dane when he came in we're talking about a little stuff. Some uh, some guys that NFL dot Com has put out a list of overrated players underrated players. Gil Brandt part of that group. Though I'm interested. It's a fitting time of year because like now we're kind of into the point where, I mean, y'all are still turning over your your priority free agents and looking under all your

stones and everything. But but I mean, we've talked about just about every high profile guy, you know, everybody that's gonna go in the top hundred or so. I feel like, certainly you guys have a good grasp on and I feel like we've probably talked at least touched on on this show. So it's a good time of year for that. Which one? Which one makes you more curious? I feel like, like, are you more interested in the underrated guys or the guys that people are talking I always want to know

about the overrated guys. Yeah, myself. I don't know about Dane, but I've always I'm always interested in the guys that people think you know. And it might be what we do,

the work. We sit down and these folks do the work too, But I'm always interested who somebody thinks is overrated that it's interested because with the draft, especially with Twitter and every all the draft coverage these days, just to find out the narrative and what people think of these players, because you have to form your own opinion first and foremost. You know, you don't want to hear what other people are saying, and then that factors into

your evaluation. You want to do your own evaluation in a vacuum the best you can, and then figure out how other people view the same player. And it is interesting to see how, you know, what people run the league and people in the media, people that you respect, think of that. We're into the month now, are getting close to the month where folks are starting to lie. Sure you're gonna get you. Yeah. In the initial the initial wave of of conversation about these players when we started, yeah,

it was probably the truthful way of going. And now it comes down to throwing chum in the water and seeing where we're at. How much of it is willful lying and how much of it is just like, how long can we talk about this stuff before we kind of start to overthink it? And I think we've overthought it. I started on this thing on Dane's been doing this Yeah. I started on to December first, we had four games left still the season, and I just made the determination

this now becomes important, yeah and annoying. Yeah, but I I to me though, this is kind of a this is a year round job. Talking about the draft and getting ready for a draft is a year round job now. Well, and that's for the media. For the media, it is for of course, for the guys sitting in that war room, but for us it's it's become a year round job.

You're not doing a year round then you're not doing your job because you need three hundred and sixty five days to figure out all these guys what they're about and you know, to fully understand who they are going to be as NFL players. I mean, this is one of my favorite parts of the draft process because you know, not looking at tapes of you know, Joey Bosa and

the Forrest Buckner. I mean, we're looking at guys from William and Mary and Campbell and we're trying to find Yeah, we're trying to find the guys that are sleep people are sleeping on that you know don't have They're not in the headlines. But you know, the more you dive deep the more you find these guys, and you look throughout the NFL. Sure there's a lot of first round there's a lot of top ten guys, but there's also a lot of seventh round picks, undrafted guys, guys from

the FCS Division two. And so you know there will be several players from this draft that go undrafted in the later rounds who will go on to be starters in this league. And so let's try to find them now that that's the best part of this process. Yeah, and then too, you had the league adding the compensatory picks. It's a whole nother round right there of guys added to the mix. So who do you got, David, we

were talking about some of these guys. I want to throw these out there because they make me feel smart. I don't watch as much tape as you guys, but sure a couple of guys that I have watched who I came away from their tape just kind of like, really, yeah, Eli Apple, I didn't see it. I'm not the expert here, but him an overrated prospect. He is being overrated by

NFL dot Com. And you know you're talking about a guy who's he's people are talking about him as a first round pick the teens twenty Pittsburg, which on Well, you did the mock draft stuff. Is it really about the Cowboys stuff that you have you've been seeing this? I mean I look, I look, I look at at the whole thing before, but I mean, obviously I am focused on the Cowboys. But yeah, I mean you're talking.

Actually I just kind of thought about this is he and maybe this is a compliment to him, like maybe kind of like a Byron Jones vibe, you know, like I think it's the numbers really impress people more than the tape. Well, and that's I think it goes back to the Golden rule scouting traits over production. You know, NFL teams are drafting guys for what they're going to do, not for what they have done. And with Eli Apple in his case, he's write shirt sophomore, right. He doesn't

even turn twenty one years old until August. So this is a very young player who is over six foot, his long arms, and he can run you. If you're going to draft him, you have to kind of live and die with his hands on approach. He's a grabby He's a physical grabby guy. Yeah, then you have to live and die with that, you know, until he figures out that fine line and what he can get away with him what he can right, So there's going to be some bumps in the road, There's no question about

it if you draft Eli Apple. But again, you're drafting him for what you think he can be. And so I understand if he ends up in the first round because Apple has all the trades. Yeah, physical toughness. He's right about this guy. So I mean you feel fine with him as a first round guy just based on those things alone. At some point in the first round, I I do think he's he's worthy when you start

comparing all the guys. You know, if you don't like it, if you don't like the short corners, he's gonna go up the poor And I don't not every first round pick is gonna be you know, the slam dunk. But I think at some point there are not you know, thirty better players in this draft than Eli Apple. That's fair. Okay, that's fair. So Dave thinks he's one bad Apple. Wow, that's something that's something I would say. That's your producer. Can't garrison that coming strong already to boist it on

my own pot disappointed. Hen't come up with that. I like, I'm saying, I'm embarrassed, honestly. Um, another guy, if he's a bus he's just waiting for that headline to be everywhere, right, that that'll be on the page of like the New York Time, like the New York tabloids. They are always so mean. He'll actually changes his He changed his name the Apple when he showed up a Ohio state. Uh, you guys, no one cares about this. He was actually his last name is Woodard, so he'll probably go back

to that if that happened. So there you go, there you go. Good good call Um another guy I hate. I'm scouting right there by the way. It's not it's not because of where he went to school, I promise Robert Kimdici. Yeah, don't like him. Don't think I mean, the off field concerns are not good. And then I just inconsistent on on tape. I thought, for how talented he is, I don't. I don't see you think he's

a top ten player though, right talent? We have talked about this guy before and that yeah, well and it's I know this sounds contrary to what I just said about trades over production. But it does worry me the lack of production that he has. I mean, he has thirty plus starts and seven career sacks something like that. I mean, it's you want to see for a player that has that much talent, you just want to see more production, more impact plays. And he does, um you know,

similar to like a Joey Bosa. You know it. You can't look at just the box score because he does impact the game in a lot of ways. Yeah, you just wish it was a little bit more. Yeah, leaves you wanting more. There's times where he flashes on tape where on the move they don't block him, no, and he's in the and he's in the backfield and you're like going and scouts you've heard him say it's a bunch on the show. Scouts are trained that if they see it one time, they believe it. Right, they don't,

they don't. They don't turn their face away from that. But you're right, the thing that the production on him, because it's funny we do talk about Bosa, but you have to almost include Candici as a way of saying the pressure that he's going to create inside the lateral quickness, the upfield present. You know he's gonna make some tackles for losses and things like that, right, more so than maybe be a great pass rusher. But as a three technique man, you want Award Daddy in there playing that spot.

You watch just as highlights and he goes top ten, Here's no question about it. He's not nearly as consistent as Bosa is. He doesn't have the same type of football character that you want. And that's really what it comes down to with Ndici. Can you trust him to give it everything he has week in week out, snap in, snap out, that's the big question. If he's at thirty four, you have to you have to consider it, you do.

I mean, I'm not saying he has to. He should be the pig, but you have to consider it because the talent that he brings this, he's got first round talent, There's no doubt about that. I'm drawing a firm line in this because this is what happened last year. I didn't like Randy Gregory, That's true, too. Talked myself into it when they did it because what am I gonna do? Looked great in training camp and now I'm right back. I'm not shake campaign here, Like we got mostly going

one way. We'll draw on a firm line and I wouldn't take him DIC until third sixty seven. If he's still there magically at sixty seven. Sure, I don't think you're crazy by saying that at all, because he's a true wild card. That is, that is absolutely right? All right? Who else you got? Two guys? These actually do surprise me because I've never heard. All I hear about them is glowing reviews. So start with Sheldon Rankins. That's interesting.

I everything I've think. That's what I'm saying. He's underrated, to be honest, I mean maybe we've inflated him a little bit too much throughout this process because he has been so kind, I mean the Senior Bowl to combine, I mean, he's been so impressive throughout the entire last three months that you know, maybe we're putting too much emphasis on that and not the tape. But the tape was impressive too, So I don't know. I see a guy that can fit a three four, can fit a

four three. He can play anywhere you wanted, that defensive defensive line, really and right, he played defensive end in the three four at Louisville. But he could play the three technique, right. I think he's a damn good three tech absolutely, So you know, top fifteen, that's where I think he should be. I bet you on some boards he is higher than Kim dja is. Oh yeah, I just pure just preach just watching him play. Yeah, I think that. I'm not talking about the off the field craziness.

I'm just talking about pure football player. And even even if Kim DJ is like a more athletic freak or whatever, like I like his tape better than Kim Dic's tape, just like Kim DJ drives me crazy because you want him to do more one out of every five place if you want more. And yeah, Rankin's to me, top defensive tackle in this group. Yeah I don't. I don't screw with that at all. And then I just straight up I don't agree with this one. I feel like

you're down on this guy. I love him. I'm biased because he's killed my team for the last two or three years. But a Sean Robinson like, how is he gets? He's great? See. I was just going to mention him that if we're talking about overrated defensive tackles. I would think Ashan Robinson makes a lot more sense than Sheldon Rankins because so you do think he's overrated. Overrated is what though? I mean, I think he's mid the late round,

first round, first round pick. Yeah, but I think a lot of people see top fifteen, top twenty Locke, you know, he's that type of talent and another guy who's very young. I just don't see enough flash. I don't see enough impact potential. Yes he can two gap, yes he can give He's a good athlete, controls the point of attack. But I just need to see a little bit more if I'm going to invest top twenty pick in a

defensive tackle. I hate this word, and I hate it because I like to use it when I'm talking about my seafood raw. But it he doesn't play with technique, and that's unusual for an Alabama kid. You know that defense, you would figure that they But there's times he doesn't use his hands, there's times he doesn't get off blocks, there's times that he doesn't finish. There's I mean, there's

all these things about him that you love. The size, and you love the fact that he kind of plays all over the place and I think that these guys around him really help. This is a guy that if you pick him, you're hoping, I mean, you were really really hoping that that that he is, that that arrow was going that way, because there's because there's a lot of things about him that are just flat line. There's not a lot of things where you you know, you look at the size arrow up, but there's a lot

of just flat line to below play where you go. Man, if I pick this guy, I'm gonna get fired. He's got the baseline traits. I don't see distinguishing traits. That's fair. I see Michael Brockers type of player who see and that's a go ahead. Well, I mean I think I think to take a little bit to get, you know, to where Brockers is now. But I think entering the league, I see those two players similar. Yeah, I just and

I think Brockers is a great comparison. I just think I don't think he's gonna be like this freaky good player, but I think he's gonna Brocker's on tape, make more play. Yeah, overpower guys getting the backfield tackle for loss work on the Twins. I think the LSU probably gave a little more flexibility to do that, where at Alabama he's he's

clogging things up home another bad scheme. I hate to compare anybody to like Vince Wilfork, but I think that he's gonna be that guy that just makes everybody on his defense look better. That's what he did at Alabama. Give me Charon Reid. Okay, if you're gonna take a guy, give me some. Give me some underrated guys. Now underrated guys. All right, um, let's talk about Let'll just do it because I have a strong opinion on this guy, DeVante Booker, underrated,

underrated running back. What's the medical you heard? I need to ask about his medical I have not yet heard confirmed reports, but I've heard good stuff. I've heard the knees looking good. Um, I'm still waiting on you know, I need to do that. Not it's looking good. I want to hear it is. Yeah, it is good. You know. As soon as I hear that, I'll feel a lot better. But you know, to me, DeVante Booker is the third

best running back in his strap. So to me, I mean, if if teams look at him as not a top five or six running back in this Draffle then absolutely he's being underrated. And to talk about to your top three, it would be Ezekiel Henry and Booker would be the third guide exactly. I don't Booker as a guy in the third round. Where early third round, That's where I'm looking at him. Um, you know right, probably inside the top seventy five picks. He's a pinball. The way he's

able to create his own yardage. He can help you out as a film's good. I just hopefully holds up he's good. I know people talk about his age. I don't care about his age. To me, the same thing about Terence Newman. He's still playing in the league. Everybody's like, you're comparing running back to I just telling about age. Sometimes we get a little call up. Some guys get beat to hell on every play, and some guys just saying the age age of Terd Snowman. The age thing

for running backs. Brandon Wheedon was another one maybe went the other way. If I'm drafting running back on the third round, I'm worried about his first contract. I'm not getting overly worried about Okay, is he gonna be worried signing in that that second contract I'm worried about this first four years with my team, and so Booker being twenty four years old doesn't bother me. Yeah, this gets a good player. Just run, dude, just run, just hopefully

at knee checks out. Yeah. Um, tell me about Willie Beavers. See he's now. Now that sounded like a tell me more. He's not a tell me more. Yeah, he's an underrated guy. Yeah. I was not a Willie Beavers fan at all. I'm just not. I don't see it with him, and it has nothing to do with where he comes from. I just didn't see a guy that that that I'd want to develop, right that, didn't see enough traits with him. I didn't see a guy that could sit down on guys.

Didn't see a guy that moved all that. Well. He bothered me. Yeah, because everybody's I mean, Mayok had him as one of his top five guys, you know, and I was like, going, man, Mike, I mean, who are you talking to here? And it Gill has him as an underrated guy. That's and that's a good point not to jump ahead another guy that and we don't have to do all these another guy, another guy Gil has as underrated as Cody Whitehair, which on this show we loved.

We might hear, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But with Beavers, I I don't see a future NFL starter. I think he can come in and provide depth at tackle and guard. But I don't see a guy that you're gonna trust leaving out on an island as your starter. I'll tell you what he have the Senior Bowl, giving up the corner, getting beat inside, gets over extended. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna let somebody else be a hero on that one. That's not gonna be men be fired. We see, I'm

the same. Yeah, oh you got there. Dave a lot of offensive linemen on this list. Jill loves his offensive line Germaine Effetti, the Texas A and M guard guard guard played right tackle. He's gonna, I mean, he's gonna go in the second rounds. I don't know how underrated he is. He might go first round, but when it's all said and done, because the guy hit his long arms and his feet are outstanding. Yeah, and he could sit down on people now too, when people rushing to

get into him, he could just anchor down. And that's that's pretty impressive about that. I don't know, I don't the techniques a mess. Um. I don't trust necessarily what he sees. Um. I'm not as high as a lot of people out of fetti. I have an early third round grade on him. I think you're being nice. Where do you foot him? I put him in the fourth? Okay, see, but he's gonna go top fifty. I mean he the best thing about it. I thought he's just sticking at

my notes. He's a catcher. He does it punch, but he can sit down. He has a hard time extending on blocks when the plague continues on. He has a hard time standard position. I didn't think he was very strong inside, but things on the outside he was okay if if the man got his shoulder. He had trouble adjusting right. And that's why, and that's probably why he has to play inside a guard. We talk about length a lot, and he has it. He has long arms.

But if you don't have timing right, length means nothing front offensive tackles, so and he doesn't have the timing right. Now. They try to at left tackle in the spring. He couldn't do it. Had to go back to right tackle. He might be a right tackle only in the league. So there are some things that I worry about. But I don't know he's gonna go top fifty. I don't think that's underrating him. Yeah he had length. Yeah, that's length, coach, that's try coach Garrett. All right, well, thanks Dave, I

appreciate that. Speaking of coach Garrett, Yeah, he's in Columbus. Yeah, that's why we're gonna get Yeah. Thanks, we're gonna get to that, Okay. Yeah, when we come back, we're gonna take our first break, and then we'll tidy up some news that we're here and and then also get into some Twitter on the twenty. So stay tuned. You're listening to the Draft Show from the sw BC Mortgage Studios. We'll be right back. Introducing AT and T rollover data.

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back here at the Draft Show. Thanks everybody out there for listening to our shows each week. Thank you for the interaction you have with the Draft Show. We appreciate all that very very much. We've got a couple of opportunities here for you. Dame Bugler has put out a guide that I think is outstanding, chalk full of information, pictures, all kinds of stuff. He's gonna show you everything he's got right there. So sixty the top prospects Stane. Where can I find this it on Amazon dot com? Uh?

Just google Amazon Elite sixty NFL Draft. That'll be on store shelves this week, hopefully Barnes and Noble and all those places I sell books. Uh. This is for a more casual fan here. It cares about the first few rounds. But then you know that that's it. A lot of cool pictures, a lot of in depth and then I've got you know, my My Beast pdf coming out. Yeah, I'll talk about that too. That's April fourth, a week

from monday. Yeah, and that's that's gonna go four hundred prospects deep with you know everything, all kinds of details on everyone. I mean that you just can't find any more information. Yeah, it is. It is a must when we do the draft. I'm up to two over two hundred and fifty players now and thinking I know majority of the guys. But I promise you when we get together for the draft those three days, I will have Dane's Draft guide in front of me. Bus I'll have

Dane in front of me too talking about this. So and also uh Star Magazine Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Star magazine comes out, We're gonna have this. So we're putting this together right now. We're putting together the players, articles, stories, a lot of good features. David Helm and Nick Eatman, Rob Phillips, a lot of various folks work very hard on this one to make it what it is. So those to print on April the eighth. This will be right before the draft. This will come out right for

the joy. This is last year's edition. So but yeah, make sure you grab that Star magazine and then also Dane Brugler's Elite sixty and then his PDF file will be out April fourth. Marcus Peters, Yeah, who's the one who had the mock draft, who had Byron Jones correctly mocked Byron Jones to the Cowboys, Thank you very much. If they had drafted my guy, they would have had eight more picks. They might have had eight more picks. You're right about that. Okay, uh, let's say thank you

so much. I would say thank you too, ed K Hill, ed K Hill, thank you so much, Ed for coming up with this segment. It is Twitter. Thank you. J K Garrison dj K Garrison feeling it today. Okay, Dave, starting all right, start out Philippe wants to know about Miles Jack. We talked about him in the mail bag this morning. He wants to know if it's possible that

Jack falls the thirty four. I don't really think that's possible, so I'm gonna alter the question and ask how far do you think Jack's knee problems could potentially drop him. It's tough. Everybody's Scott. He going to Jacksonville at five. I haven't seen him outside the top then yeah. Yeah, but if there's you know, if teams are worried about

there are multiple teams concerned. I mean that I had a scouting director flat out tell me he's not on our draft board until we get the medical recheck information. Once we get that information and it's great, we'll put him on the board. Up until then, he's not there. April first is his pro day and then the rechecks shortly after that, So keep your ears. April first is

his run. He already did his pro day, right, He'll probably have some people work him out, so yeah, I mean, he could work out great, but then get some negative information. So even if he does work out just fine and impresses people on April first, he's not out of the woods yet right, Okay, Uh, this is a really good question from Martin that literally just came in. Uh. We know that the Joneses as well as Will McClay and Jason Garrett went to Orlando to watch Paxson Lynch workout right,

pretty telling indicator. Would it surprise you to see him go for meaning? Did the Cowboys have to work out a trade to justify picking him? Or if I mean, can you see him going that high? We've said this all along, I think have been consistent about the quarterbacks. Whoever that is it. We'll see if if in fact this draft falls where Cleveland doesn't take a quarterback. I saw a tweet yesterday where Dane was saying, Hey, the signing of RG three has nothing, nothing means nothing mean.

Dane is locked into what's going on in Cleveland. They like, if they like a quarterback at two, they're taking a quarterback at two. RG three is not going to change that at all. That doesn't mean that, I mean, for all we know, they and I don't know this. Yeah, they might not like Wentz or golf enough to take it too. But if they don't take a quarterback in two,

it's not because of rg okay. Would that being said, if if a quarterback doesn't go it too, now you have the pick potentially, I mean unless San Diego Bayales. I worry about San Diego bayling here, by the way. I worry about them bailing a little bit. But the thing about him is, though, if they don't take a Quarterbett and all threeo's Quarbett, We're going to see how much they like these quarterbacks. I'm talking about the Cowboys. If it doesn't take, well, if Lynch is their guy,

I they'll they got him. I don't see. That's what I'm saying though. That's what if Lynch ends up being their top guy. And I know everybody out there is cringing and panicking and all that, but it's them. It's there, It's that's their board. We could talk about this all day. But the fact that Jerry Jones showed, now that all the quarterbacks worked out the combine, which Jerry saw, but the fact that Jerry went with the group to Orlando to see the workout himself, I think it's a little

bit of a telling sign. I just think that the Cowboys think they're they they think they're smarter than that. Like I think that they'll try to find a way to have their cake and eat it too. If that's what they want to do. I think they'll try to take Lynch later. Yeah, there's no doubt man. Yeah, Travis Frederick situation. Yeah about Yeah. I mean you're a Lynch guy. I have been. I have been a Lynch guys today like them enough at four, you know what, I have

guys over him at four meet me personally. I've got the Jacks and the Elliotts and guys like that. That's me right this. We're gonna see what their board says. If Lynch is the guy that they want, I don't think he'll to pick it for I think they'll have to find a way out of it, or I hope so, or I mean, or take somebody else at four. I mean, if they absolutely have to pick there, I don't know. That's interesting. The drafts all about getting the guys that

you want, you know, and stick. They don't care what we think. No, no, no, of course they're gonna take wherever they really, No, but they dam it. They need to care influencing these guys. They should care what the rest of the league things. Yeah, because the drafts about value and if the rest of the league doesn't view packson Lynch as a top ten guy, well then they can move back and get packson Lynch elsewhere and pick

up more picks. You have, absolutely yes, you can't. But but the thing about, okay, if they paint this scenario, if they can't get out of the pick, right, if all of a sudden and I've lived this where the phones don't ring and that's you and you're watching that clock it happened, and you know, you're listening to Berman and everybody else talk and the clock's just ticking away.

You're going that phone a ring, And well you could, I mean, you could use the Travis Frederick argument argument the opposite way they do, which I mean they didn't get value for that pick. Thirty one was probably too high to take Frederick, but they like their guy and they hung in there. So I mean, if he's really their guy, maybe whatever, just take him all. Just be ready if that phone doesn't ring, and you trust me, I've lived this, sure, I've lived with a phone doesn't ring.

It's a sick feeling when you you know, but these trades are gonna be made on the clock, y because somebody's gonna say, my guy's there, I'm worried about somebody behind Dallas taking my guy. This is a fantastic segue for a question from Cam. Everything the Cowboys have done to this point, it seems it's like the long play the free agency, filling holes for the draft. Drafting a quarterback would be a long play for the future. Can Jason Garrett afford to worry about the long play that is?

That is a very fair question. Absolutely, that is a very fair question. And sometimes you have to sit there and think, are we drafting a guy? Look what happened in Washington. Look at the commitment they made to RG three, and then you get a coaching change. Sure, what happens there? All those Bounty of picks that go away, they're now in Saint Laura to the rams at La Rams. You know, maybe those are picks that you could have had. Those

could be players on your team. So you have to your think you don't want to believe that, But Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones have to think, like, Okay, if we make a coaching change here, right, are we gonna is this quarterback going to be screwed? Yeah? If we're Yeah, if you're getting to be nice about it. You're gonna draft a quarterback. It almost gives Garrett a leash because you want to pair the quarterback with the coach and the offensive system, and you know what's being taught, what's

being coached. So if you draft a quarterback this year, especially early in the first two rounds, then I think it gives Garrett. You're making the commitment. Yeah, you're making the commitment. Yeah that is It's a very good question. Um, all right, Hector wants to know. This is my favorite storyline of the whole draft. But Hector Cowboys signed Alfred Morris on Monday. Hector still believes Zeke should be the pick.

Where do we stand on Zeke? Now that the Cowboys have kind of addressed running back in free agency, the question of all ze Zeke questions are gonna get answered. I just love talking about it. I didn't think Zeke would be the pick at four before Alfred morrissigned. Agree, and I you think consistent. Definitely don't think it's gonna be now. I mean, you can make your argument he's a fourth best player or he will be the best player available when they pick. But again, with the way

this team views the offensive line. I just feel that they they think they can put in just anyone back there and be productive. And so I still think they address a running back position at some point during the draft, But I feel even more strongly now that I won't see So you wouldn't you. You wouldn't take Zeke over Bosa. You wouldn't take Zeke over Golf Me personally, Yeah, I mean it's tough because BOTHA I don't know I'm taking. I'm sticking to my board and I'm taking you know, Jack,

I'm taking Ramsey. I'm taking Bosa above Zeke. Quarterbacks are a different animal. Can I ask you a question real quick? Address you think that Ramsey's a better safety, don't you know? There's no question. Yeah, there's guys in the league that think that too, And I believe this that we might see them thinking that Ramsey is a is a corner. Yeah, And just like a lot of teams, I think it's split really yet. And I think this team, you know,

to your point, is on the cornerback size. They see a corner and and if you're going to draft a player fourth overall, that's that's that's tough. See. I think I would take I think that actually, if you ask me, Hardgraves is a better corner prospect than what Ramsey is playing corner. Yeah, I think it's debatable. Yeah, I mean I don't think it's I don't think it's slam dunk either way, I think it can make a strong Kay, how about this, would you could you say? Could you say, uh,

maybe Apple? I mean I think they're better corners that are gonna be taken in the first round. Yeah, And you could definitely make that argument because Ramsey doesn't have a lot of true experience at corner. But I do think he'll get better at it. So I worry about a lot of things with Hardgraves and a lot of things with Apple. So those guys aren't, you know, the snow slam dunk exactly. So with Ramsey, you're getting size, you're getting length, you're getting speed, you're getting a sick

athlete who should get better at the corner position. But I think you're taking him away from what he does best, and that's you know, I'll put him in the nickel, put him as in a safety versatile don't don't lock him into an outside corner position. And good, great point. I mean that sounds like what we talked about with Apple, which is that if you're drafting him to play corner, it's way more about his potential than anything that you've seen,

because this corner tape is not anything impressive. I like a safety tape a lot better. Right. Having said that, I was going, oh, well again, if there's a silver lining, it's that I would have I would imagine that Jalen Ramsey would fill that role for this team as a rookie at least. Yeah. I mean he's not going to be well, they'll plug and play. They've proven that well. But I don't think he's not. He's not one of the two outside corners as a rookie on this team.

Maybe in year two or three, but I will see it would be it'd be interesting to see what happens if they do pick him in what they do with cars And I'm not I'm not cutting contract. I'm just saying, would he be the starter? Would they give him the opportunity tunity, throw him in the deep end and let him swim or sink, and knowing that they have cars because Scandrick's gonna start on the other side, I think the blueprint for what they did with Byron is so good, Like,

why why I go away from that? It worked really well. Aaron Jones better Corner than Ramsey coming out interesting? Yeah, I think so. I think he was. I said it on Twitter this morning. I thought he was. Yeah, he's more I thought he's more experienced at corner, much more comfortable there than Ramsey than what we saw this past year from Ramsey at Corner. Yeah, Ramsey's so darned good. He is good. I mean, I'm not hurting the guy.

I mean him just saying that when he has a chance to you know, when he's facing the action, has a chance to process it, bite and make things happen. Yeah, I mean he's so good at that, rather than turning when he has to turn his head and try to find the ball set. That's that's all well said. All right, I'm I'm answering this just because of the guy's name.

It's not just his name, but his handle is actually Joe and Flower Mountains love Joe and Flower Mount actual Joe and Flower mount wants to know if Dez two point zero is out of the question completely, like we haven't. He's my favorite, Well, he's my favorite guy, but he's kind of fallen off the radar because you look at it and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It doesn't make a lot of Maybe feel any differently.

He's gonna run on Monday, sure, So I'll tell you what though, the fact that we feel good about second round talent wide receivers makes it a little easier to say, Treadwell, I hope you're not playing in the NFC East. If you're a Cowboy fan, I don't want him end up in New York or Philadelphia one of those places. Does

he do anything? I'm sorry, Dan, No, He's the biggest thing working against him is speed, death, the depth of the draft depth a wide receiver, you know, in the second round you can get a guy that you know for this team would be a number two. You know Treadwell is gonna be a number two for this team.

If you was to pick up four, you can find a number two in a second Maybe once we started working through this draft and you figured out that Dotson's, the Colemans, the thomas Is, those guys who all could very well go the end of the first round. Does Treadwell do anything for you if you're picking at twelve instead of four absolutely. Yeah, I mean you feel better about it there, and why not because you've eliminated, You've probably looking at you're probably looking at loss and then

as a defensive ent. Yeah, that's probably what you're looking at. Yeah, Treadwell is number six on my board, so I think very highly of him. Um if he's on the board for me and then you know, somewhere at pick twelve to fifteen, yeah, absolutely, I'm definitely consider around interesting to see again. He I I'm a sucker for the offensive guys. I just Treadwell and Zeke or my guys, what if he runs of four to six two, I'm kind of looking at the tape and just thinking that's what heats.

I don't exactly I'm watching him. I'm watching play in the sec. I'm watching play against good corners. I'm the I'm watching play make plays against the floor to kids who everybody's talking about in the first round. I'm watching him talking he's making plays against Alabama kids talked about

you know that und forty. As long as he can do it, as long as he can, and I don't think the thing it makes you, the thing it makes you kind of turn away from him is the fact that you do have guys at the top of the second like we talked about, Coleman can run, Dotson can run, the kid Fuller can run, and they they feel a receiver type that. I mean, you already have amplimentary player, have Dez. You don't really need one. It would be fun, yeah, but you don't really need it. Was a nice thought

when we started the draft show many months ago. He's still my favorite player in this Yeah. Yeah, um, he's your favorite player probably him, Him and Zeke and and I'm Miles Jack if he's healthy. Those those three are probably like, those are the guys that I like watching the most. Three of the best players in this class, no doubt. Uh is Ronald Michael wants to know. Is Ronald Blair going to be there in the fourth round? Where do you think he's going? What's your thoughts on him?

I think he could. He didn't have a great combine. Yeah, but the tape is just to me, it's just too good. I agree. I mean you want national, well, national, national, well, National championship. Uh runner up was Clemson? Yeah, you would you would draft him in the first shround just watching the Clemson tape. Yeah, you know, and people offensive line's not very good? Did you factor that? And then as well? But it is a you know, yeah, well there's a lot of guys. There's a lot of guys that we

could say that about. We're going up again. Absolutely, No, I think we're on the same page with Blair. We see what second round player? Yeah, I mean the guy that you're gonna consider in the second round. But yeah, talking to people run the league, I don't I don't get the same type of excitement about him. Now. Maybe teams are just being coy the guys that I talked to, and all it takes is one team to love him and he could be off the board in the second

or third round. I think he could be available in early for I like him better than Calhoun and Opa. Does that make self? Those are consensus like second round type of guys. Yeah, so you're saying, no, I don't think Dan's right. Somebody could if he's there. Let me tell you what if we're sitting here talking on day two and all of a sudden he's picked by somebody in the third round, I'm gonna go, you know what,

they they hit one there? I mean, what this from conversation we had before we came down here to do this. You were project you, you were big on Frank Clark out of Michigan had him as like a late type of guy, mostly because of his off field issues obviously. Yeah, but went in the third round all of a sudden, No, what happen? Yeah, it was late seconds put out that magazine.

We put this magazine out. I had him in the mock draft in the seven seventh round, and he went and then that and that, and that was the sixties. That was because all of a sudden, I was worried about the off field stuff, and then all that cleared to a point, and next thing you know, he's on the third round on some people's boards here. All it takes is one team. Yeah, I'm with you on mine. I got have Blair, then Oak, but then Calhoun. So

I'm right there with you. So the answers, No, he won't be there in the fourth I think, I mean, we love him, but I don't get the same type of vibe vibe from people I talked to around the league. Uh that he's as well. There are not a lot of rushers in this league, Yes, I mean, and a lot of rushers in this draft. And people are gonna say, you know what, I'll take a crack at this kid.

I think his combine's gonna scare some people off because it wasn't a great combine, and so I think that might hurt hurt it, opposite of Mike Mamula, who had a great combine. I'm not buying into that, but I like some team's gonna benefit from teams overthinking the combot his combine. Good team. All right, Dan, I got one for you, as the residenti Ohio and motive pet I hope I pronounced that right. This is a good point because I mean, we've had quarterback penciled to the Browns

since this thing started. Uh is it? You think it's possible? Basically, he wants to know if Ramsey or Bosa winds up there. But just in general, I mean, are we are we assuming too much that that pick is going to be a quarterback? I mean, well, I don't think we're assuming. I mean just have to look at the Browns and what they've done. I mean, look at the Jered Goff and Carson Wentz their pro days. Who was showing the most interest Hugh Jackson, pet Hamilton, the offensive minds for

the Browns. I mean they were from everything from putting water on the on the footballs to helping or you know, to direct some of the throws they were making. So I mean, obviously Browns are showing interest in these top quarterbacks. So it's not a mirage that they're going to consider one of these guys is at the top. But if they don't. The way they're building the Browns, they're not they don't feel like they have to take a quarterback

this year. They are fine with waiting until next year, especially now that they have RG three and year old. So if they don't love Wentz or Golf or another one of these quarterbacks, then they're not going to take them. They don't feel pressed to do so. But you know Hugh Jackson the way he thinks, I still think he's going to like one of these guys enough. Where quarterbacks are going to be the pick. I think quarterbacks are

overwhelming favorite to be that number two. Cowboys Nation would like register an earthquake on the seismograph if Joey Bosa was the second overall pick. Yeah, like they would be celebrating. Dane. Would Danes consider across me and throw his pin on the ground and be all mad you could pick for the Browns. All right, Dave, thank you so much for quitter on the twenty. Okay, we're gonna take our final break.

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show or towards into the show. You see the number on the screen right there, Kip with the graphics eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven. We'll fly through those. Get your Get you on the air, left to ask your question. Urban Meyer tweeting out pictures this morning with guy's arm around the old red ball

got his arm around him. Welcome to Ohio State. I just love that we were kind of commenting about this a couple of weeks ago, like these coaches have not been at these pro days, right, Like you know, I remember I went to ls US a couple of years ago and Gary Brown was there scouting Jeremy Hill. Wade Wilson went down to Baylor to scout Bryce Petty last year. That's a thing that coaches do. This year, they haven't

been anywhere. Come to find out, it's because they're doing all this stuff privately, right They're all up there in Columbus right now doing their own which is I mean, it got it on their part for doing their due diligence. It's just kind of funny because it's you know, everybody else is at Pro Day, but the Cowboys are like too cool for Pro Day. I guess they got to schedule there. They get an owner with a really big, nice plane, they can fly them all over the place.

And the fact that it'd give urban Meyer, his staff, his kids a lot of credit to a lot of people probably scurrying around heading different directions for Easter break and these kids showing up. It's important to them. A lot of the battle House state working out in California, working out in Florida, and so yeah, I know that's a it's a big deal for the Cowboys to get everyone there and in Columbus and refresher for everyone they can.

There's unlimited private eatings. You know, there's the thirty here which will happen starting on April fourth and going through the seventh. Dallas Day will be on April eighth, right, exactly, So anyway all that could surth huh it's a week away. Yeah, all right, does it start? Maybe we'll start time to start creeping around, creeping around Valley Ranch because next year at the start, we won't get the creeping too much. Okay. One of my favorite segments that we've created on this

show is something that David Helmett has. It's called tell me more than I need to watch Grease one of these days. All right. I saw and I've I've heard this guy's name a few times. I had to look up how to pronounce it. He's kind of I saw him on Twitter this week. Tell me more about Maryland defensive end yannick Ing Walkway. I think I said that right to me. I see a three four backer. I think that's his best fit with his size. He doesn't have the longest arms, and I think that shows on tape.

But he's quick, he can bend the edge. He's a great kid. I tested really well. But again I see more of a three four backer than a four three end. Yeah. Did you see this? Absolutely? Yeah. I was just you know, and going through because I was putting together stuff in the magazine and I was trying to figure out where I wanted to put him and end up putting him

as an outside linebacker. I think that's a better fit when you look at him physically and all that, and what he can and what he can do that's andy or his numbers measurables. Yeah, and what I compared him

to a smaller version of Tombaholly. That's how I saw hell of a football he is, and I think in Goha can be a good player, But again, I think he's better suited for a three to four where he can you know, operate in space and uh, you know, not forced to deal dage right about him though as far as the bend they capture the corner, those kinds

of things. I mean, you could watch him against some pretty good competition with Maryland being in that big ten and knows some having to deal with some size offensive lines and stuff like that. So I would absolutely a guy that Again, I think Dan's right. He's an outside linebacker to me, probably more of a three four guy than he is a than he is a four three end.

The signing of Alfred Morris has I mean, I just don't see a premium pick being spent on a running back, So I want to know more about Cal running back Daniel Lasco. Daniel Lasco, I watched him a little bit during the season, but then when I saw him at the Shrine game with my own eyes, he impressed me and really athletic player. And I showed it at the combine and he blew it up. The biggest thing with

him is the durability. Hasn't be able to stay healthy. Um. This past year as a senior he only started three games. But last but the year before was a junior, Uh, he was fantastic. He had over eleven hundred yards. He had thirty three catches. Um. He can do a lot of things for you, but he's an interesting complimentary back. Yeah, this guy is a slam bam runner. And I say, I like that. That's what I want. You know, a guy hand him the football. I think that he's more

of a straight line guy. I don't see the ball getting out on the edge, but you hand it to him between the tackles, he'll bang around in there and he'll get some yards. I just looking at my notes, he's one of those guys that gets what's blocked. That's kind of how I described his game. Great here. Yeah it's little and I will say this, so he one thing that he had a little problems on. I always look great pass protection, tends to lunch a little bit.

You gotta watch him. Maybe not more the complete back, but again, tough guy, run inside, gets what's blocked, bang off tacklers. Round. Where did I have him on my board? I had him in the sixth round. That's where I got him. And another thing that this team will like about him to your captain, top notch intangibles. He was the cow Special Teams Player of the Year a couple of years ago. So a lot of the other stuff that teams really like. Six foot, two hundred and nine pounds,

the combine. They worked him out as a wide receiver. Yeah really, yeah, he was asked to work out as a wide receiver. The speed is gonna be a four four four if you're scoring at eleven three project. Yeah. Yeah, he's an athlete, but he's a straight line guy. Really really is? I mean, I like everybody, Cowboys need a center or in some depth on the interior line. Nick Martin would be a great story. It makes too much

sense for me to believe it. Tell me more about Ryan Kelly, Ryan Kelly, Alabama, I think if you want him, he might have to get him at four because he could. I think he might go in the twenties. Dang. I think he's the clear cut top center in this draft. And for teams that need a starting center, a plug and play guy, this is it. I mean, this is who you want. So I think Ryan Kelly's gonna come off the board pretty quickly. He might not even be

there at thirty four. Yeah. I think with Ryan Kelly, and this is a great crop of centers and the Cowboys are really maybe the decision not to keep Mackenzie Bernardo around might had a little bit to do with what they saw at the center guard. Me personally, I grabbed the center first and then trained him to be the guard. If you're looking for that swing guy right there, Dan's right though. This kid, Kelly, he's gonna be the

first center off the board. The thing that I was really impressed with him was how he is able to when he played that wide three technique. He's athletic enough to snatch that three, get a position and then the ball and then you see Henry and those act strake go behind him because it's hard to you could snatch a one because he's inside on you, but a three's

on the outside shoulder the guard. He could snap step, get in position and turn his body and allow the ball to come behind him so he could press the body control absolutely the point of attack strength to do that, and he has it. It's really smart. He's just been a model of consistency for Alabama last few years. So I think, yeah, he's a plug in place center and

possible late first round pick. Yeah. Once again, he's six four three eleven pounds, five flat on the afford Ohio kids thirty four two rich to get that guy, I mean not, I mean I don't mean Kelly specifically. I had sixty seven in mind more for the center. Yeah, I had sixty because because what's gonna happen. I'm looking at that board, and if one of those receivers are there, or one of those corners are there, I want to starter. Well, yeah,

I can't defensive end. I mean we can't maybe a quarterback, okay, but I can't be drafting depth at third four right right, I feel pretty comfortable saying Kelly will not be a Dallas cowboy. Yeah, No, he's right about that. He's right. How about a Brugler special because he plays at a school that people couldn't find on a map. We've talked about him before, Victor Och out of Stok. The mascot is Seawolves. The Sea Wolves exactly us his mascot. They

were just in the tournament. Yeah they were, yeah, right really, yeah, there's basketball going on right now. What he's I wasn't expecting much because he's he's short, kind of stocky, but he has really long arms for a guy that's that's shorter, and so he's able to you know, sink and extend in the in the rushers and then work off of that. Um. I liked him a lot at the Shrine game. The

tape I thought backed it up. Uh. A lot of teams are gonna write him off and not take him seriously because of the measurables, right, but I think there's a spot in the NFL for this this player. Yeah, the Bill Hall of Fame general manager Bill Polly, and this would be one of his guys. This would be Polly and loved to take those guys that were small school guys, couldn't sound stay. I mean, he this would

be right down his I will say this though. The one thing about this guy that I really really liked is he doesn't stay blocked. And and I know you're playing against accountants from Elon and Howard and Maine and Coastal Carol. I mean, I understand, I understand, but he's talking about the Shrine game and that's an upset. That was a step up in competition. He had production there. I tell you what, man, this guy, though he's very active, he doesn't stay blocked. He has balanced He could really

close it down from the backside. There's a lot of positive things about Victor Ochie and this up and very very unique player. It's I think you'd be a pastor specialist. All right. People don't want to hear this. Got one more. We gotta take some calls. People don't want to hear this because of how good the Cowboys line is. But tackle tackle is a spot of concern, I think, Um, so tell me more about George's John Thus you're like him. I'm not too terribly high on him, but I've watched

him play against I say that. I say this with the like I this is not a this is a Day three guy, right? Oh yeah, Yeah, he's not gonna be a top one hundred player. But yeah, if you're looking for depth and on day three a guy that could possibly play left or right, you know, be a verse swing. Yeah, I don't think he's ever gonna be a starter. I just didn't get that impression. Doesn't need a starter right now. But eventually though, Yeah, eventually you want to get a guy they know, Well that's what

you got Green four, Chaz Green. You're hoping that Chad lay yet, I know, but scares me. Yeah, but you know, to me, Green is a better prospect than what was coming out. So that's why. But yeah, I you know, I I'll tell you what. I like him. I do admire about him. At the Senior Bowl, when it came down to him and Spence, no, they and that was the practice over at Fair Hope. They were mean the this was like, okay, you're the best pass rusher. I'm

just a guy. I went to a big school. But he was able to fight him pretty well and there was a lot of chippy pushing back and forth. You know the guy. The guy took a lot of pride in his ability to work against that guy. Round I had him more in the sixth round. Is where I had fifth sixth type round player. Yeah, I have a fifth six on him and round for Ochie. Sorry I forgot to say that round. I'm a bottom line kind of guy. You are a bottom line guy. I'm looking

at Ochi right now. Where's my defensive ends? I have Ochi in the fourth Okay, you look more than nine? Do Ye Holmes, Ochie and Daddy Nicholas. Yeah, I have all my small guys in the fourth round here thirty five pounds. Yeah, a small guys. All those all the guys, Holmes, the kid from Montana, all those guys into two forty range. Here's some intriguing pass rushers, and you gotta find him. That's that's where we gotta find these guys. That's exactly

Judons of the world. Matt Judon. There's a guy. How did Matt Judon go from two fifty to two seventy five at the combine? Yeah? He put on some weight. Yeah. Water Burger, Yeah, water Burger I always give We need water Burgers a sponsor here. All right, Kate Garrison, I'm gonna turn this show over to you because I want to take some calls. We got about five minutes left and I want to grab some calls eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven. Everybody in the

panel is doing well. Dane's a little tired because he's been putting out draft material for you guys, so can't take it away. Yeah, he's been holding for a while. We'll go to Blake and Delaware. Blake, you're on, Hey, what do you think about Von Miller? I'm sorry, Von Bell at thirty four? And in the tredyback scenario, what would you think about grabbing Darren Lee within the teens?

And also what is your projection on Jalen Marshall? Thank you? Okay, some buck guys when all Buck you love Darren Ll tell us about Darren Lee. Brian, I'll tell you what I'm not. I'm not a part of trade back trade back in on Darren Lee, though I will, as you know on my draft board here as we show, I have Darren Lee and a colored means I need to redo him. I redid him yesterday, and I'm somebody else can have Darren Lee. You're out. I'm not out. I'm

just saying the guy could run. All right, you're out. The guy can like him, you know I don't. I'm not a fan. All right, I'm not a fan of Darren Lee. I'll just say that I think the guy runs like a son of a gun. I think there's things that they do with in coverage with him that's that you can work with. I watch him blitz. I don't watch him do anything. I watch him miss tackles in the hole. You know, yeah, someone else he is.

He is one of those guys that people are fired up about because he looks good and he watched the tape and he doesn't always play with a red shirt sophomore. So another young guy that you know. I don't like the potential thing. I don't like the project. I'll take Von Bell at thirty four. Yeah, we were just talking about that because we're talking about safeties. In this group. Ryan Ramsey's a top safety. Should put him on in safety. But after that, I mean, who's who's the next safety? Oh?

I have von Bell and then Joseph and one two. I mean I have Ramsey, Bell and Joseph. Those from my top three. I think that's probably why Cowboys fans love Ramsey so much. And I know we just said that they might like him. Moore as a corner. Yeah, I think Cowboys fans are in love with Ramsey because

people have been wanting a safety for fifteen years. And if our buddy Darren Woodson absolutely and if you don't, if you don't draft Ramsey, then there aren't a lot of other guys seeing church and and and that's why, that's why Byron Joes is talking about playing safety. It's not a deep class, That's what I'm saying. Though. If you don't get this guy, then you're not going to feel that great about whoever you do get. With von Bell, I see a guy that does a lot of things

pretty well. I don't think he does anything great, Yeah, but he does everything pretty well. See field well, and he can cover over the slot. Um read react, it's all there. I don't know he's a special player. I don't see a future pro bowler. But he can start in this league, all right, can't. What do you got? Yeah, Andrew and Kansas Goad Andrew guys, Hey, what's up? Oh? Not a whole lot. My question pertains to our convenciatory picks.

So we have yea with three sixes. Yeah, And I was just wondering who you guys like there and what their impact might be on the team. Thanks guys, Thank you, Andrew. All Right, you gotta pick it. The best one obviously is to one at one thirty five. Yeah, you got a guy. I mean, could we get our could we get could the Cowboys get their swing guard center at that spot? That's so okay. I mean it's so hard to predict. But all right, let's assume that they don't

draft a quarterback at four. I think you probably got to take your quarterback at sixty seven. I know you were looking at that for your swing guy, those two fourth round picks. I think I think that's probably where your running back comes from, and probably and maybe your swing guy too, if I had to guess, I mean, just kind of looking at the way it plays out. Could Jonathan Williams follow you at that point there you go out of Arkansas? I'd love to see him there,

I think talking about offensive line, Missouri's got a few kids. Yeah, Connor McGovern, I think would be a nice fit there. Who's he's played tackle, he's played guard. Um, I think he'd be a great fit at that point in the draft. So yeah, I think those comp pics are really gonna come in handy this year, no question. Yeah, I agree

with you on that too. I mean it's hard to predict who will be there in the three six is the last one being a two seventeen, and they don't have a seven, So what they might try and do is fill some numbers there unless they want to get back. I mean, you can't trade something very Cowboys like package, well, they can't trade them. So yeah, they're gonna trade at least once in this draft. I like, that's just a safe bet. All right, can't We're gonna take one more call.

Who we came. We got Norman in Silver Spring. You're the last You're the last guy, Norman. Go ahead? All right, Hey, guys, thanks so much for taking my call. Um, So I was curious. I'm actually one of the few Cowboys fans to actually like Joey Bosay. Yeah, so I would prefer Jalen Ramsay, but in case is there, I was curious about eight player cup. I haven't heard. I haven't heard you guys to stop that. Cameron Jordan on the thing. I remember in twenty eleven Jordan came out and they

were talking about how we dominated Senior Bully. I'd like, really good hand, here is really good technique and that's pretty much what I see him Bosa, so just care he is to see what you're against. Thoughts on that one, Okay, thank you very much, appreciate that. I was I misunderstand. I thought he said he hadn't heard a player comparison for Joey Bosa, and I got from us you gonna yeah, I mean Greg Ellis gets talked about on this show like every freaking week, So yeah, he's so much better

than um. I don't know what do you think Cam Jordan was taken in like the twenties though, So it's in terms of like draft prospects. It's hard. And I had a scout. I had a scout from another club tell me he this could be very similar to what

Michael Strahan was. Yeah, I think that's fair when you talk about when you talk man Michael stray andrehands in the Hall of Fame as far as play played thin Okay, not being a not being a not being a coming in from Texas Southern, not being a dominating defensive end, and then he holds the single season sack records. I'm just telling you, I mean, yeah, it's no no with an asterix, No, no, you're talking to a guy that

that everybody assumed, not assumes thinks I'm killing Bosa. I'm just giving you the other comparison that a scout that I really really like and trust from another team told me. He says, think about him potentially potentially as what Michael Strahand did for the Giant. Yeah, and I'm hearing similar things. Teams love Bosa, I mean because he's he's such a low, low floor, high floor type of guy. You know what

you're getting with him. I've heard Strayhand Chris Long is a popular I don't think there's that one clear cut apples to Apple's camp, but there's a lot of these guys that make a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, Strayhand, the Long, he's not JJ Watt, I mean exactly the bed. Uh. Maybe he's a smaller version, but you know, he shouldn't be comparative. I think his production is going to be

when they play him inside a three technique. Sure, I think that's where when he if he gets sacks, it's gonna be because he's playing inside more so than on the outside, or if it's a hustle play or whatever like that. If he if he is what Dane says he is, I don't. I'm not even that concerned about his sack number. If he opens things up for everybody else, that's what he's exactly what he could do. Take I just I just compared him to a guy that didn't have a lot of sacks. No I know for the Cowboys,

I know, but was a good player. This is all your fault. No, it's not a narratives. Bosa is gonna be a perfectly killed this guy. I just said he I don't think he's good a compliment because people care what you think. And so I retweeted that Garrett and urban Meyer photo, and like three different people were like, tell him not to draft Bosa, tell him not to do it. Only Cowboys fans hate Bosa. It's wonder why that is. It's not me, Dane. Don't be looking at

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