Draft Show: More Scenarios At 4; QB At 1?

the count on day one? The first show? Yeah, like the matthis one too much for my LSU brain one twenty or something like that. It was. But we've we've got to this point where we're two weeks away. Brian brought us along with Dane Brugler from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com, David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Kit Garrison Executive produce Today, gentlemen, As you know, I'm always just going to dive right into things. We got some things to talk We got about some things to

talk about. First off, we surprised at the way that the La Rams were able to manipulate to get to the first overall pick in this draft. We knew if they were going to go up there, obviously, from fifteen to one, which we've never seen before. We've never seen a team go from fifteen up to one. So we knew if it was going to happen, it's gonna have to take a lot, and they sure gave up a lot. Yeah, and what Dane's talking about a lot? They did give up.

They gave up pick overall pick first, their first round pick number fifteen, number, their second round pick forty three, second round pick forty five, and third round pick seventy six, and then next year's one and three for that right to draft the first overall spot. Tennessee flips the one overall as we've talked about four, the fourth round pick, which is one thirteen, and pick in the sixth round,

pick one seventy seven. We all sound very calm and collected right now because we've had we've had twenty eight hours to digest this. Uh I yeah, hell yeah, I was surprised. I was freaking out yesterday. That's how I woke up. I said, my alarms like seven forty five, eight o'clock in the morning. I reach over to my phone and you know, turn the alarm off, and like that just starts coming across the screen all at once. You know, I follow every NFL writer there is on Twitter,

so I'm just running. It was like a fire drill. I was like, what do I do with my hands? What's going this is? Dane said it, We've never seen this before? Yeah, well I never. I I mean we've been talking about the Rams trading up to four. I was trying to get just two first two second round picks. First of all, the price was way off. I mean, I know it's they went they went to one and not four, but still they gave up so much more. And on top of that, I just I even thought

fifteen to four was too big of a jump. I mean, what do you usually see. You know that the Bills went to four from like nine for Sammy Watkins. That's the type of stuff you usually see, you know, where fortune favors the bold, David maybe, yeah, or the desperate or the desperate and well, there's some people that might not agree with you on that though. I do agree with you though, But there's some people will say, well, maybe the spice fisher in and let's need three more years.

Well that's what we're talking about desperate, because they are desperate for a quarterback and this is their lifeline. You know, they don't really care about twenty seventeen draft right now. They care about the here and now. Yeah, and you know this gives them a future. Now, what is that future? Is that Carson Wentz or is that Jared Goff. I don't think we have an answer yet. Yeah, I don't think we're gonna hear some people out there. And this is my theory on this situation. The Rams know who

they're taking at one. Yeah. I don't believe for a second that they're debating over these last two weeks. They know exactly who they're taking, but they're leaking it out there. Some people they're telling they want Jared Goff, some people they're telling they want Carson. They want there to be a split opinion because they want Cleveland at two who they think loves one of these quarterbacks. They don't know which one. They want Cleveland to try and entice them

to trade up one spot to ensure that quarterback. The Rams can go back and gained some more draft picks back and still get their quarterback at two. Now, I don't think it's going to work. How about that thirty day gamesmanship? Yeah, I don't buy it with two weeks left. I mean, I don't know the Rams knew who they're taking. I don't believe for a second that they don't. So but I similar to with Dave, I did a seven round mock I, you know, turned it in, finally got

it loaded up Wednesday night, posted it. I was so proud of it and never done a seven round mok before. You just set it on fire on Thursday morning. A couple hours later, I'm giving my dog a walk in the morning, I'm getting all these texts. I'm like, oh, people are messing with me. You know, I did the seventh round mok. Now they're telling me this huge trade happen. Yeah right, yeah, that's true, just unbelievable. Tell me why.

I'm sorry. If you look at the if you look at the numbers, and if you just want to do the what you think Jeff Fisher and the Rams will do. He's a seven and nine coach. We kind of understand that, so he'll probably be the Rams will probably be picking again, probably fifteen, you know again, And if you look at what that one and that three might mean, well, the Rams, if if they pick in the same spot where they did this year, that one in that three. They're gonna

overpay on this trade by a second round pick. They absolutely are. But and I think Peter King made this point yesterday. I think right now, obviously we don't know if the quarterback is going to work out, but right now I think it's a trade that makes sense for both teams. The Rams have a pretty that's a deep roster. They got the rookie of the year at running back, kind of thin. At receiver, you got Greg Robinson still

coming into his own attackle. The defense is stacked. I mean, they had so many guys in their secondary that they couldn't pay them all. Defensive line solid, you got Brockers, you got Donald. Honestly, this team is I think it's reasonable to say that they're a good quarterback away from

being a play off slash Super Bowl contender. And then over on the other side, the Titans have quarterback figured out, and I guess running back Marco Murray's there and nothing else right, so they want a whole bunch of draft picks. Let's remember that last year general manager there too. By the way, last year we had two excellent rookie quarterbacks.

Usually rookie quarterbacks struggle, and we saw James Winston Marcus Marriot struggle but they had really good See year before, a couple of quarterbacks played real well too if you talk about Bridgewater, right and car But both those teams, the Bucks and Titans, are both picking top ten this year. Yeah, so you know it's for the Rams. This isn't like an automatic Okay, you know now we can talk playoffs, right, you know, this is something I was just thinking what

Jeff Fisher normally is. Yeah, no, and you're you're not wrong. Yeah, that's what history tells us. Yeah. Let me ask you this though, and going back to the smoke screens and the gamesmanship. If you are in the market for a quarterback and you're picking in a spot where you can get one of them, and I mean, I know you like Paxson Lynch, but I'm talking about Winston. Golf, go ahead, Yeah,

that's fine, you got one valued over the other. I mean, let's say that let's say Cleveland really does they love Winz, even if it's not true for the purposes of this, they do, and Wentz goes one. I still think that they would probably take golf too, though. I mean, there's easy a trade you think so. I think I think quarterbacks go one too. I think the bigger question is is Cleveland number two? I guess in quarterback. I guess that's more. I agree with what he says. I think

it fits. My point is that I still I don't think there's that big of a difference between these two guys that you're going to see one fall that far down the board, is what I'm trying to say. I think there's a clear difference between golf and wins. How I do, no, I well, I agree, just one's a couple of years older one. You know, one's more physically gifted. I do. Yeah, there are differences, and I do I would not be shocked at all if say Cleveland prefers

one over the other strongly. Yeah, But I do think quarterbacks are going one too. It just the number two pick could be the Eagles making it. The thing that could happen here, though, is the fact that if if, in fact, though the Rams do take Cleveland's quarterback, then then they'll just bail to bail that pick, that second

pick might be not as expensive. That goes against what I think, And I mean, Dane's plugged into the Browns, so he would know, but I think I don't think that, and I'll just maybe I don't know if Danes is that big. Between these two quarterbacks love one and hate the other, it is to me one, I think that Golf was a top ten quarterback. I don't think Carson Wentz is. That's me. I always thought that Wentz was

more of a guy from twenty to twenty eight. I think the Browns are hoping that Wentz goes one and then they take off at two. But if it goes the other, if Golf goes one, I think they have a good feel that Philadelphia at eight could really like Wentz and can make a move. And you know, the Eagles don't have a second rounder. So what would it take to go from eight up to number two? Is it a future one? Yea? Is it? You know? A three to four? Would that be enough? Or it's Cleveland

that desperate to get out of two? Right? It's going to be interesting. I think going to eight is not a bad option for Cleveland if they're if they because I've heard from Cleveland people that that they like wins, but maybe not enough to take it too. I think, I mean, if you're going from too I don't even Yeah, I don't even care if they don't have a second round pick. If I mean you're dropping six spots, a guy that you love will be there, and yeah, you

pick up a first rounder. Yeahs draft. The thing with the Browns is we don't know for sure yet with the metrics in analytics, how that's going to play into their draft strategy. But what I can promise you is they want to figure out a way to accumulate picks. They were, they were they wanted the Tennessee deal. They I mean, they wanted to do They wanted the deal that the Rams absolutely wouldn't want that deal. That was

the deal. Good point. Yeah, but they But see the fact that Cleveland needs a quarterback, or we think Cleveland needs a quarterback, Well, what the chances of Cleveland takes tounsil I honestly, I mean, is that a possibility? I think I think they got duck if they get stuck. Yeah, I don't think it's a guarantee Cleveland's going to pick a quarterback. Yeah, well they all kind of think that.

But if we if we like these quarterbacks at the top of the second round, if they have a guy in mind, if they like if we're going in terms of odds of what's going to happen at number two, I think the best odds that they're gonna take a quarterback, the next best odds they're gonna trade back, and the third best odds they're gonna Sakay. Let me segue to that if you're Dallas, Yeah, and the debt Yeah. And let me say, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you

two to play general manager. Guy Sure and Dana and I did this last night for a Guy's at one oh five three. We had a nice group out there for the local radio station and had a little scouting one oh one, nice turn out, great questions. Ask this question, would you be willing to give your two and your three to go up and draft golf at two if that's if that's your quarterback? No? Or next year's one. No. The next year's one is fascinating because that's if you're

going up to get golf. You know, you're even if Ruman doesn't stay healthy, you have golf waiting to you know, kind of go in there and help you. You're you're planning on picking in at twenties next year. Yeah, So if say you're picking just say for the thirties, hypothetically twenty five. Yeah, you're picking next year. Is that pick worth guaranteeing you the quarterback of your future? He makes a great point. Sure, I've stated my beliefs on that

I have. I'm fine if if Jared Goff were to fall to four, which I don't think he will, especially now that the Rams are picking number one, I think he'll be the number one pick if he were to fall to four. I've looked at this draft enough to you know what, that's fine if if if he's there, that's great. I'm not mortgaging the future to take a quarterback that I'm not in love with. Well, and that's and then let's play. Let's okay, Well me to play general,

I understand that that's on me. Well what about the Cowboys? What if golf is there? What if golf is their their best quarterback? They're going to work him out this weekend, right, That's that's another thing. Yeah, the Cowboys, you know, they're they're getting on Jerry's G five and they're all going out there and they're gonna have a lot of fun at Berkeley throwing the ball around under two weeks away and you know you're making that trip. That's tells you something.

That told me something too, that that they worked out Paxton Lynch too, that Jerry. So this is gonna be pretty consistent that they're going to look at all these top quarterbacks that way. I hate giving up draft picks, man, so so do I and it and the guy that hates the most is sitting right right to your right right there now. I do not, especially at a future number one scares the hell out of man. I mean, I don't want to give up that pick. And what

do you feel that strong? Do you think the Cowboys could feel that strongly about Golf to do this? I think, and I know they brought him in. I know, well, I feel like I feel like I wouldn't feel terrible about it. How do you think they feel? I feel like I would have a better sense that they loved him if they really loved him that much. But I mean, they're going to work him out this weekend. So this is where this is where like personnel guys are different

from us guys in the media. They don't care what we think a well it would be, they're not afraid. Yeah there, I mean because it is your job. You know, somebody can lose their job over this stuff. But the general manager here is not going to lose his job. But you know that. But but that's the that's the thing, that's why you would make a move like that. I will say this, I'm a job if you trade up to get him. And he's playing Gabbert too. But but this is the this is the thing about it is though,

but he this general manager, not gonna lose his job. No, he's not gonna lose. But that's why. That's why to me. But I've been in this room with this general manager before when we didn't have a first round pick, and he's dying. Trust me, I've seen it. He is. The rest of us are in that room and we're all just kind of working the draft and pulling tags and acting like we're busy, and as it comes close to our pick, we're all looking at the board going who

would we have taken? Who would we have taken it? And it is and so that's maybe why next year he would. But but then again, the fact that he is the general manager and the owner, he can make that move and we're not talking about going up to get Joey Bosa. We're talking about a quarterback. Get a quarterback next ten exactly if you felt that well way

about golf, you you'd make that move. And every time that sting you feel that sting about not having that future one, you just look on your roster and see Jared Goff there, and that would take a little bit of his tag off your personnel board in your spot. Put it right there. You make, You make a compelling argument. You do, and I know we would all throw up. I mean, I mean everybody out there would throw up because they don't want to give up picks. They don't.

We did the study last night in detail. Is it just the one I'm getting rid of to get him? What else? No? You that's it just the wor or a second or third this year and seven the seven round er I did. I had the Cowboy's first three picks Jalen Ramsey, Carl Joseph Tyler, boyd so corner, safety, wide receiver. Who would you rather have those three players

or Jared Goff the quarterback of your future? You make a compelling argument, and then and you know, hope, hopefully your pick next year is somewhere between twenty five and

thirty two. Yeah, hopefully right. We made a trade with the Buffalo Bills, thinking that when we went away in that draft from Stephen Jackson and those guys, and then and Maurice Carthon said, well, those running backs in the second round are just the same, and Parcels and Jones listen to Maurice say that, and then all of a sudden, we're training, they draft JP Lossman, and then you know, but we're thinking, maybe that's a top ten pick and ended up to be number twenty. Yeah, our pick was worse,

Our original pick was worse than the Buffalo pick. But you were thinking, man, we might get a top ten pick out of this one. You know's it's compelling. You're going for a quarterback that you it's the number one guy on your board. You're going for your number one quarterback. Is what you're doing. And if if, in fact, if in fact, if you know what the Rams are doing, if they take if they take wins, to me, I think you have to talk about that. I'll bet you

ten dollars right now that they don't take wins. I think it'll be golf. Okay, well, which, yeah, which kind of makes this a moot. Point. Okay, but we're just this is a dractional I know, um, I'm just asking you if you would do it. I feel a lot better doing it knowing that they didn't do what I wanted them to do to address the position in free agency. You know, ask you this Colt McCoy or Chase Daniel was on this team, I'd say, hell no, but they're not.

You don't you don't feel great and I'm not going to ask you this question. But you don't feel great about drafting Joey Bosa. You don't feel great. I don't feel great, but I'd say I feel better about it than most. Okay, that's fair. But would you if you said, I can move up with the thought of getting golf my best quarterback, but I I'm not gonna take Joey Bosa. Is there any other player that you would feel that

you would feel different about that. You're trading up. You know you're trading up, so I'm like, I'm getting golf, but I'm losing this. Yeah, I mean, well, in light of this trade, I think it's I really didn't know how realistic it was. I think it's very realistic possibility that Jalen Ramsey winds up a cowboy now, and I'm fine, give me Jalen Ramsey and let me keep all my picks. Cleveland takes Tonsil, You're you're your trouble. They're absolutely you're Trump.

But Cleveland could trade out, Cleveland could theoretically take a quarterback right, and then you wind up with I mean, I feel like it would be hard for San Diego to pass on Tounsil. Yeah. Man, then you wind up with Jalen Ramsey, whom a lot of people think is the best overall player in this draft at four. I'll take that over getting rid of picks to get Jared Goff. You secure your future, don't you? I think I do. Yeah, I make a splash um And like I said, it's

stings giving up draft picks. But I look at Jared Goff in my building knowing he's He's mine for the next five years, regardless of what happens with Tony Romo. I feel pretty good about that. I don't have a good argument against it. But people get a little queasy about that, don't It's nerve wracking. It's a it's when you start, when you're I mean, it's one thing when you're twenty seven and you're picking a guy who's to

play dimeback for you as a rookie. You know, but when you start talking about these franchise altering moves, it's I don't think I'd have the stomach to do it. For real. Kudos to them. Yeah, that's what you do. You sit in there and you make those decisions. Those are an easy decisions. No, it's not an easy decisions. I mean, ten years from now, I'm not I won't be a Cowboys writer. Maybe I won't even be in

the media. Like I'll have kids, be terrifying, and like Jared Goff will be thirty five and like Brady Yeah, just kicking ass and winning Super Bowls, And I'm like, I did not love that guy. Yeah, that's why the draft I have to live with that real quick before we take our first break. Any news that you've heard about Miles Jack in this recheck? No good news? Yeah put it that way. Yeahs the last two days, it's just yeah, it's unfortunate. Some teams are gonna look at

these knees differently. But I think we can almost rule out Miles Jack for here. Yeah, you know, I just don't think it's gonna happen. Their teams are worried about that. Nat. Yeah, and it's, uh, that's a shame for a guy like me. Had I had my U c l A palm palms out for that one. Yeah, heavy sigh of depression. Members of the Miles Jack fan club and so you hate to see that. But you're hearing Miles not a possibility for here, are well right, and it's he he can

run right now, he can move right now. It's but it's the long term that you're worried. They want to deal with that. Exactly this team. You know, when you're talking about a top five pick, you don't want to have the Yeah, exactly so, and they hate it. But you can almost roll him out for here. That's reports great information, well, the reports coming out of any though it's not all teams are turned off, which makes me wonder how far. But I kind of think I think

he's absolutely right yeah about here, but somebody's out. I mean he's draft I hope, so, I mean he will get drafted, and we just want to know. We've been trying to temper expectations. This whole process telling about to happen for me. Yeah, you can you can just see the these things coming a mile away, you know, like Miles Jack Away, Miles Jack. That's not the time for jokes. Still, there are such good at it. There are some that even believe that Jalen Smith could be They feel better

by Jalen Smith's injury than Miles jack injury. I've heard that. I mean, these knees, everyone looks at him differently and right, So does that mean that you're I mean, Miles Jack, how far has this guy fallen? I mean, I think that what Dane Saint is absolutely right. The teams behind Dallas could very well just say, you know what, the knee is gonna be fine. It's the same thing again. I hate to be back in the day. Guy. Jeremiah Trotter's my example. It was a third round pick. Jeremiah Trotter.

Stephen F. Austin doctor told me, I don't know, Brian, he's gonna play ten games or ten years, and he played twelve years. You just don't know. I'm putting y'all on the spot, But I mean, is he still a top ten pick? Is he a first round pick? It's because we're not talking about a wide receiver or we're talking about a guy that linebacker is going to find contact and every single play. Yep. And that's tough. Yeah, that's really tough. He's basically a running back. So I

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talk about everybody else's pick as well. I always think ed k Hill for doing this. We have Twitter, David Hellman, it's your show. As you might guess, Cowboys fans are very curious what this mega trade means for how the landscape kind of looks for the Cowboys. So we'll get right into it. Shout out to Nebbi. Yes, thank you, friend, Silver Springs gut feeling, Jalen Ramsey, is he there at for in light of all of this news, I think so possibility there, Yeah, I'm a strong possibility. I think yeah.

If we see quarterbacks go one, two, good chance Laremy Tunsel goes three. And in that case, every defensive players on the board for the Cowboys, whether they want to go Bosa or they want to go Ramsey, either way they can go. I think the two defensive players are holding on would be would be Ramsey and Bosa, and the offensive player is Zeke. If I had to it had to pick. If if it comes down to those three will be, I'll be very interested to see. But

it's three really good options. Yeah. Three. More so than anything, I think people kind of lose the plot like they're gonna get a really good player on my draft board. Those are three of my top five players in this draft. So very good. But thank you for the question. Again, I mean these and these are the type of questions we're getting, uh, just kind of trying to shuffle that order in the top four. Trey wants to know. All right, let's say Wins goes one, golf goes to Ramsey three.

You're sitting there with Tunsel on the board, you draft him. I do, all right, Well, let me ask you this than uh, the phone's not ringing. I feel like the phone would be ringing. People will want Laramie Tunsel if he's at four. But if he's there four and you don't have a trade partner, you're still not taking him. You're gonna take Bosa. I have to take someone else. This This offensive line's already great. I don't need to

make it even greater. I have so many their holes on this team that I could address with that pick. I'm a true believer and best player available. But yeah, not in every situation. This is one of those. I think this is one of the times you have to go with the best player on your board. This is state and we talk about what's the risk that you're taking here. You're adding a great player to your roster.

You're adding a great player to your team. If you want to play a round, mess around with a second round pick, the third round pick, the fourth round pick, and take take a need there. Okay, fine, but with that with that pick being as important as high as it is, if I get a chance to draft a guy that I think is maybe the number one player not on my board, but on their board. Right, then I think you have to take that. I think you have to. Also, if the phone would ring, I think

that's the best shot for your phone to ring. I think if you want to go back, the best shot I think is if one of those quarterbacks still. I think if it's Tonsil, you think so, I do. I do. You've got to make these people think that you'll take Tonsil. But do you think that Tonsil's number one on their board? I don't, that's I don't think so. I think that we those three players we talked about, I think they'd

rather have one of those three players than Tunsil. Yeah, even Tunsil to heck, I don't think they expect Tonsila be there. That's that's a great issue. I agree that's the issue there. But I but if you're if they're if their board is their boards the way the boards that we know, he's your number one player, right, he's my number one player. Yeah, but it's it's still weird doing this thing. And do you think about Baltimore, UM Philly,

I think even Tampa probably, Yeah, all sitting there. What if you can what if you could get Tennessee to come back up? We actually talked about that in the mail bag today. Yeah, don't And I kind of think the same thing that I thought, which obviously they kind of just proved me wrong. That's a huge jump man. And I know, uh, they've got a better, They've got a better, they've got better second round picks. Now. I know he's got a thirty, he's got a thirty, thirty three.

He could play with the guy and Tenant what John Robinson's Yeah, he said that that. You know, don't think they're done. I know he's got that. Yeah, but I don't think he's acquiring all this big time draft capital just to get rid of it all. Well, let me tell you this. The one player he could flip you. He could flip you. He could go to he could come down. What's he gotta give me to get back?

He could if he gives you, If he gives you thirty three and that he's got another way, if he gives you thirty three, forty three, and well, he could give you thirty three, which would make it even sweeter. I'd hold him up on thirty three, to be honest, with you think he's gonna give you because you can. You could ask for the same deal. You could ask for his forty three and forty five, right, but you can. You could also take his You could take his thirty three,

and I think he's got it. You could take his thirty three and his seventy six. He'd probably have a way easier time getting his hands on like Jack Conklin for less less of a price. In my opinion, that's I just I don't know, I know, I mean, they have the capital to do whatever they want after that trade.

But but why hold him up? I hold him up if if he wants to come and get if he if Tunslan fact is on the board, and my general manager here doesn't want to pick Kim right now, by all means field, that call field it if you want to drop to fifteen and you feel good that you're still within your range or driving. I just think they've got Luan and they've got there's other tackles that would be easier to get that you don't have to blow those kind of picks on Laramie. What about the giants

at ten? They need a tackle? Would you trade within a division for a one and two you move back to ten, so not too far right, but you're also given didn't we say that was five hundred, We said that was five hundred points. It worked perfect It worked perfectly last night because the Cowboys sitting at eighteen hundred, the Giants are sitting at thirteen hundred. The Giants second round pick is five hundred points. So with that being said,

that's that's that's what you get from the Giants. You go to ten, you pick up the Giants pick is at forty. So now what you're doing is you're at ten picking the Giants get their tackle. You're picking at ten. That that still kind of puts all of a sudden. The Giants have three first round picks on their line, just like the Cowboys. But that's the thing. You're also giving your one of your big Ryan, one of the best players in the draft. It's it sucks because their

a division rival. But I can't think like that. I mean, the Redskins and Cowboys just did a deal. Trade. You just make trade. It's now you could lose Zeke. You could lose Zeke to Philadelphia and letting now now quarterbacks go one two. We think that Philadelphia, what I would really love is if Philly came up to four to get Tunsil, because that that way I get out of it. I get picks. And I know Philly's not getting Zeke because that's nightmare scenario number one for me. Yeah, I

like that. So you have an opportunity to if you want to go to the Giants a ten. That makes sense that that that you pick there, you pick up number forty, that's your pick. If I think the phone will ring if Laramie Tonsil's there at four, but if it doesn't, I'll just take him. That's fine. I mean, yeah, it's overkill. It is overkill. You're not wrong, but it's I mean, you're that's hard to argue with getting the best player in the draft at four and you take

the Jets spot that we're gonna get Leonard Williams last year. No, no, no, And that's what we have. We have to learn from the past. And yeah, exactly last year, they're the best player. You know what, you know, a lot of people thought was the best player fell out of the top five. Yeah, and could have happened this year with Tounsil. Yeah, I think it's possible. Yeah, because if okay, say that Cowboys do not get that trade offer. I don't think they're

taking Tonsil. Yeah, I think they go one of those three players we mentioned, sure, and then five at Jacksonville. I don't think they're taking Tounsil. I think Baltimore at six would take Baltimore take see Baltimore those teams. He's one of those guys that just sits there at players fall to him. It's amazing, it is amazing. It's amazing how the Ravens get player. Maybe that's because he doesn't window dresses board. If you got Tonso number one and

he's there at four, yeah, is that? We always think this team will have tonsol as I remember one time. Okay, that changes things? Yeah, where's you been working on a board? This team will have Joey Bosa rated over Laramie Tunsil. I don't think they're considering Tounsil that if you if you're considering Tounsil that highly, you have to do a lot of work on him because he's not the cleanest prospect off the field, right, and we haven't heard much of now, let's be honest, but they've done a lot

more work on both they have. We know that. Yeah, we don't know that they've done a lot of on Tonsil. That doesn't mean they haven't. They could have done stuff behind closed doors, sure, but I don't think they'll have to Tonsil rated as high as those other three. I'm gonna flip it on your real quick, just to continue the conversation, Robert. All right, So Robert wants to know quarterback goes number one? Cleveland takes Tonsil, San Diego takes Ramsey.

You have a quarterback, and then you know the rest of the usual suspects sitting there at four. Which quarterback He didn't specify which quarterback went to two? He said, Tonsil's going to glob will say, golf goes one. You got wins, and it's the same. It's the same scenario. This is an interest interesting scenario because okay, say this team wants golf but they don't want Wentz. Yeah, okay,

the Eagles call, make you a pretty interesting offer. They are going to give up a future one we talked about, you know, trading a tackle within a division. Tunsil quarterbacks a little different. Are you okay? With the Eagles trading up to get their quarterback. You're you're helping the Eagles find their quarterback of the future. Are you okay with that or your or your help? Are your help them

take a bus there? Yeah? Yeah, but that's very depending on how you feel about Wentz, that could be the case. It could be the forty nine ers two for that matter. Well, and that's why I'm saying the Eagles because they know they have to get in front of San Francisco. Yeah, no, that is true, so that you know, usually inside the division, you don't usually see those kind of moves. But well, Dallas, Dallas traded with Washington to get but it is Marcus

Flord're talking about a second round pick, top ten quarterback. Yeah, would you do that? I'm not afraid to trade. I don't think that I can worry about what I can become if I can't give me the extra first round pick. Well Son, you sound like a scout. I'm not. I'm not afraid to trade within the division. If you like Wentz that much, you're taking him at four. So if you don't, you obviously don't like him enough to take

him at four. Right, So if you're gonna let another team come up, I don't think it's as big of an issue, but it is just interesting. Yeah, you know when we revisionist history, when we look back and say they was allowed that to happen. If Wentz happens to hit you know how, or if he doesn't so fascinating. Maurice wants to know if you don't draft Bosa for but he basically wants to know who would you feel best about drafting defensive lineman thirty four? Can be tackle,

can be an end. If he wants a d lineman at thirty four, who do you feel best about? Who you got their stud I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring for Kevin Dodd, which I don't even know if he would be there. I think he would take Bullard. I think you like Bullard more, like Bullard a lot more and I like God Um. I think that would probably be my guy there. Um. In terms of a defensive end, Bullard. I love the versatility because he can be your left end, put him inside on certain passing downs.

God just doesn't do enough for you, does he. No, he's an older prospect. I was encouraged last year. You saw as the season went on, as he gained more experience, that light bulb started to illuminate more and run and that's encouraging, but the testing numbers worry me. He's not the most athletic m and I don't know, I just don't see an I'm Dodd. I gave him a mid second round grade, so I like him in that area. But he's along, he's with oak Bah and you know

Shalie Calhoun and you know these guys. Yeah Bill over Joseph? Yes, okay. So if it comes down to take in the safety, would you take Bullard over Bill? Yes, I would take the defensive linement over the safe over the safety player. Okay, you think bullets first round player? Okay, okay. And well in Joseph it wasn't for the knee, Yeah, he'd probably be higher for me, But then the knee worries me. And so that's another one of those wild cars based

on yeah, what the medical reachecks say. Here's one. He's right about Bullard, by the way, he's a good player. He's a good player. Mister Bombay has one that I think you'll like because it's something we've talked about extensively. Uh, Doctor Bombay, Goff and Wentz are both gone. Paxton Lynch is your number ten player overall in this draft. Okay, do you take him? Considering the position and considering the need, you just take him at four might even be a reach.

It is a reach. But but you're telling me though, there's there's down to four and there I have sick other players ahead of him. Yes see, that's that's where I have a problem. But it is a quarterback. I mean, I feel like Dan and I are kind of on the same page with it. I mean, if you gotta weigh it differently. Yeah, and this is why I think you know you almost can't conclude quarterbacks on your overall I agree, but they're already They're always the quarterbacks are

always pushed up higher on the board. I my experience came in here. They happen. There's so they'll get to put a quarterback in a position to draft. In my opinion, there's only six players in this draft that you feel better about than Paxton Lynch in this scenario, Right, do you just take him? I don't know if I jumped the board like that, not not with six. I might do it with one or two, but I don't think

i'd do it for six. When you stack the quarterback on your board, I think you're already putting in the fact that you're moving them up higher than you would actually take him. You know, you're looking at who's in front of him. Yeah, we take him over the quarterback. Okay, but at a certain point you're taking Lynch over. Even though you might think that shack Loss is a better player, You're going to take the quarterback maybe ahead of him. It's they did is on your board. They did it

with Manzel. If you think about Chazer and Martin right both over, I mean, you know they considerate Well, hey, Johnny's still there. So anyway, one more question, if it could Dave, Yeah, Justin wants to know. Let's say Jalen Ramsey's the pick at four, Karl Joseph is there at thirty four. You see this team double dipping at that question, I asked last night. That's what I did in my

seven round MOK for this team. Yeah, I went Jalen Ramsey because I believe they see him as an outside corner, right, and then you get your safety and all of a sudden, your secondary. It looks a lot better than it did yesterday. Um. It's an interesting point because maybe Ramsey's best position is safety, but maybe I think it's You're absolutely right. But we

don't know how this team views him. And and that's where the question is, do they view Jalen Ramsey as a pure outside corner and if they that's where he's going to start, right But if they think that, you know, that's where he's going to play, that's what we're drafting him as, then I think absolutely we could see that happen. Now if they look at him maybe like a little bit like Iroon Jones, where we're gonna start him there, but we're also going to use them a little bit.

We're gonna use them a little bit, uh, you know, maybe even at safety some some formations. If they're thinking that way, then I don't think we see her. Carl find it's interesting safe teams have William Jackson in the first round. It is like their best corner some teams. If Ramsey's on this team, and I mean if they draft him, I really do think he will kind of play that buyer and roll at the start. Yeah, it's just he's talented to just Pigeonholen. Okay, thank you very much,

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for us. Okay, we are back with the Draft Show. Uh, kind of going through a lot of different things, a lot of different scenarios. I feel better about last year who they were going to take as I do right now. I think it's really up in the air, but trying to do this best as we can to draft fund though. Yeah, you know, we're this is truly about investigate and education. I've always said that it is. I have no problem going over thirty two or over thirty one this year

on my mock draft. Yeah, no problem with that, because that means the draft was fun. Yeah, undrafted. Well, this trade did put some juice into it, though not only they did put some juice into that draft, maybe like an avalanche effect where I mean, you know we're talking about it, but I mean it's not over like. There's gonna be some more of these absolutely. I mean, if there's a trade before the draft even starts, there's gonna be two or three more. I think. I think you're

absolutely right, especially in that top ten. We're thirteen days away from doing that. We're gonna play We're gonna do a little tell me more here, and Dave Hellman's gonna take over the show at the end of the show. We're gonna do this for a little bit. I want to I want to take some calls again. Let's line them up as you see on the screen there eight eight eight, five five two two nine seven is our phone number. I will remind you that we're all doing well,

happy to be here for the Draft show. So if you get to your question, we'll get to your answer, and then we'll move along that way. So be nice to KNT Garrison when you talk to him on the phone. So, Dave, tell me more. This is easily the biggest name I've featured on Tell Me More. But he was a thirty visit and I want to know more about Jacobe Brissette, the Senior Bowl quarterback from North care Line of State. What you think of his game? How you like is

fit for the Cowboys? You like him more than ninety broadest I do. Physically has what you want. I mean, he's built well, No. Six four two or thirty pounds. He's got a strong arm. He's a good person. Um you know, he has a I think enough mobility to at least will not be a statue back there. He can move around a little bit, and he's tough as heck. I mean, you see guys draped all over him. He's able to you know, you see a little Roethlisberger in

that respect. My biggest concern is I don't see consistent downfield passing. I don't see the confidence. I don't see the vision. I don't see uh you know, he doesn't pull the trigger quick enough and so for me, that's usually not something that you see get better or fix when you go to the NFL level and everything's just faster.

So that for me, that's why I'm not as high on Brissette, But I understand those who are because that is really one of the only main questions with him, because he does have a lot he checks a lot of the other boxes. I think he got the player right. But the things I saw, I said, this kid was not afraid to rip it, you know. I mean he'll he will throw it. And you got arm, you know, that's the arm part of it about him. I do agree with with Dane. Though he does miss some open receivers.

You'll see some guys at times where guys are clear and he'll miss, and you know, but you could also see him make the make the right hash to left sideline throw. That's a very positive I think I thought he needed to play a little bit more awareness, but I just really liked I liked the arm talent. I like the fact he was hanging in there on blitz Is when I was watching him play, but you know, and the fact that he'll rip it. I think those

are all positively. I could see why they brought him in though he's in that range where you got your first three guys. Okay, now, who are the next guys. They brought in Cook, they brought in Hackenburg, they brought in this guy. He might be in that next tier of guys. Maybe he won't be as high as Hackenburg and those guys, but maybe a round lower than them. But I have him, I have him on my board in the fourth round is where I have him. Makes sense. I got him in the and I've got now. I

like Alan Moore myself. I had a Hackingburg, Prescott and Alan in my third set, said Field and Cook in the fourth is how I had. I have him in a six. That's where I would feel comfortable taking him. Yeah, tell me more about Colorado State linebacker Corey James. Solid player. Uh. He's interesting because Colorado State ran a three to four right and he was an outside rushier primarily, uh, and he put up some some good sack numbers, some good

tackle for lost numbers. But then his past year, his senior year, they moved to a four to three and they moved him to the middle. So he's playing a lot of Mike playing a different position. Now you see the athleticism. He's not the biggest guy. He's about six one two or thirty pounds, that's exactly. But you like the competitiveness that you see in him. Plays with some fire.

He can move really well. But where do you play him? Yeah, I thought that this was a guy that you might even in the time on him, we had probably they probably a better time. I had a four six on the kid. And but Dane's right, this guy is an edge rusher though he mean he's he stays active. What I was saying, uh, you know, wrap up tackler, hasn't knows the ball, can change direction, plays his hands, he

can capture edge. He's got some bend. I mean I watched games against Colorado, Boise, Wyoming air Force, played the low block, played with balance, he could get the outside. This is a guy that you might consider the way he moves move him to safety. This might be one of those those guys that you because of the change in direction and the burst and that ability to bend and play with balance, that you might say, Hey, I'm gonna look at you as a safety. But he could.

But you watch him, he'll he'll put his hand on the ground and he will go and he will dip and he will he will get to the quarterback. I mean he could, he could cause some problems, but he's well those guys, it's got a lot of different things. I think Dan's right. Where do you play him? He could play a lot of different things. I might even consider look him as a safety. These protay numbers are great. Four sixty one, sixty three, ten yards split, thirty five verte,

ten seven broad six six five three cone. It's fantastic for a six one two or thirty pounds. That's maybe where you think, you know, I just that's the kind of the guy. And again he was a visit he was a thirty visit guy here, so I brought him up. Yeah, so why you know they've got obviously they have an idea of what they can they can do with him. Speaking of safeties, we talked a lot about We've talked plenty about Jalen Ramsey, We've talked a lot about Karl

Joseph Barry. I mean, safety seems important. They Church and Wilcox are both on contract years, right So I'm looking at safeties and I want to know more about DeAndre Houston Carson from the College of William and Mary. I saw it, Dan Dane's got a pretty good grade on the guy, so I want to know more. I game a third round grade, which that sounds like the sweet spot for me. And this is a player that he

played corner they moved into safety. The versatility is what you really like about him because he can do a lot, not only on defense, but also on special teams. He's reminds me a lot of Justin Bethel when he was coming out, and you know he's gone to the Cardinals, hasn't been the most consistent defensive back, but he just got an extension because he does give you death in the secondary. But it's his value on special teams that makes him so special. So, I mean, you're looking at

Houston Houston Carson. First of all, what kind of a When this picks announced, it was like five first names here. Yeah, DeAndre Houston Carson, William Mary. Yeah. Yes, but you know, six one two hundred pounds ran a four or five forty at the combine. I think you can do a lot with this player. Whether he's gonna play free safety four, whether he's gonna play a nickel role, regardless that you're getting a very good specialty. Yeah, he's a physical player too,

and that's something. I mean. The thing that the thing I was most impressed with William and Murray was behind in a lot of games. When you're watching the scoreboard and he's still playing hard. You know, that reminds me a little bit about Ron Leary when Ron Leary came out and Ron Larrie when drafted. But you watch him play and Memphis is getting crushed in these games against Mississippi State and those type of opponents, and he's still

playing hard. And this kid's the same way. I thought he needed to play with a little bit better body control. You know, I thought there were some things. I thought there was some times where he was poor technique wise as a tackler, But you know, I could see I had him in the fifth round. It is where I had him. But I could understand with the Yeah, I could see it though six foot one ninety seven four

five two. You know, I wish he tackled a little bit better, But the fact that he played so hard when his team was always behind, I think this is says a little bit about the kid. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, very average from a size speech strength standpoint, but I think he's well versed in multiple coverages. He could do a lot of things. Like I mentioned nine block kicks on special teams. That's not an accident. H Yeah,

that's a boatload and you look at it. We mentioned this before, but I think Passes defended one of those stats that I think absolutely translates. He had thirty four over his career. For your starter senior captain, I like when you guys aren't lockstep with each other. Yeah, it's fun. Um. He was in the news this week his inctable appeal just got denied. The late round guy. This is a guy you're gonna have to do because I have not seen at play. Tell me about Drew Att from Iowa.

First of all, you hate it for the kid because this he wanted to go back to Iowa and up until two weeks ago or this past week, he thought he was there. Yeah, and I'm an agent, you know, because he wanted to keep that option open and the NCA drugged their feet and um, appeal after appeal after appeal. But Drew will be a part of his draft class. He couldn't work out at the Calm. He wasn't the combine, I remember that, but he couldn't work out because of right,

well the injury as well. Yeah, he missed most of his senior year because of an ACL or else also had an elbow injury, so he was really banged up. Um, this is a guy that, uh, you know, when you would think of an when Iowa pass rusher looks like this is Drew Watt. Uh you know it was all over the play so ration or you know, more hustle than skill. Um, you know he's uh, he's technically sounding in in some areas where he can you know, beat blockers.

So you're getting a competitive hustler. Who was Aaron Campman from Iowa. Do you remember who I'm talking about with the Packers Nebraska? And I'll look him up one day Aaron Campon, I know, I know you're talking about. But for Drew Odd, I mean, he's he's a day three rusher. You know, he's tire to look at you just I

have to look at him myself. I know now I have to do that and then he's on my things ahead of you, Brian, he is way ahead of me on on odd he's He's the last guy that I wrote up because for my book, because I was waiting to find out he's going to be part of this draft class? Is he not? And I did all the work on him, but I was just waiting, and so I did his report. Co Ago, of course you did all the work on a guy that you didn't know

was going to be in the draft. Well, but so you're I mean, is he a draft pick you think or a priority free agent? Sounds banged up? Yeah, he is pretty banged up and that and that's what it could come down to the medicals. If not for the injuries, he is draftable. Aaron Campman. He played ten years in the league. He was at schooled Iowa. Now you go, good memory, Yeah, thank you? Tell me more. Do we have time for one more? Yeah? Go for one more? Well I take that back day. That's fine if we

do it quick. I want to take some calls. I really I care more about him as a returner than a corner. Cyrus Jones, Alabama another Senior Bowl guy, could be a top nickel corner for draft. You know, not the biggest guy, but he competes. That's the problem. Is though. You see the ball go over the top of him. That's the thing. I mean, there's there's times now he battled those Mississippi. Those Mississippi's got some size at receiver and he battled his rear off to try and stay

in position. But there are also some games where you see that ball go and he's doing all he can to go up the ladder to knock it away. The return part, though, is very very interesting. Yeah, he's quality, one of the best in the nation of doing that's what's his grade. I think there's a shot he could sneak into the top one hundred, but I think probably more fourth. Yeah. You know who loved working with him

in Mobile was Mike Tomlin. Like he was he wanted to watch that guy more than any of the other guys that were there. Look good for Mike Tomlin's your buddy name, Mike Tomlin. I just love how he's always around. He's always everywhere, He's everywhere. Okay, Well, thank you very much for that day. Appreciate down and tell me more. All right, Ken Garrison, we got five minutes left in this show. I'm gonna turn it over to you now.

Samon San Antonio you're up. Hey, guys, U one of the first I ask you to tell me more about Sua Cravens. Would you play him at safety or thank you? Or headline backer number one? Number two? Right? I know you like guys to think outside of the box. And this is where one thing I was thinking about. Um, if the you know, if the Browns did not go and they decided to go with RG three for this year and what have you, would you consider the Cowboys.

Let's say if they traded Terrence Williams and Ron Leary. I think he fit, they fit both of the needs that they Cleveland half and maybe they Cowboys swapped their third round pick four Cleveland's second round pick, and would that be uh? Would it marry up as far as the value? Okay, thank you? So we're moving. Players want picks, So we're sending Leary and Terrence and sixty seven two Cleveland four thirty three? Yeah for thirty three. Cleveland won't

do it. That doesn't I don't. I don't think so. I mean, I I appreciate the because he is no problem with that, and it might work with another trade partner. But Cleveland they don't want, you know, players, especially guys that are in one year deals and they want draft picks. They want guys they can develop in their own system. So and to a Craven's real quick. He's tough because where do you play him? That's the that's the question. He's more of a linebacker, I guess. But you have

to have a plan for him. If you're going to draft him, you have to use him in a hybrid role. He's a very good football player. I mean he's always around the action. That's not by accident. He knows what he's doing out there. But you have to have a plan for how you're going to use him. Right, Okay, Kim Bill and South Dakota go ahead. Hey thinks there's Philly call up and offer and Winch was still available, would you take next years one? I think they have

a three and if they would would cost me too much. Okay, say it again. What you're trying to do Phillies offering us? Oh okay, you're saying that Winch is still there, right, yep, Winch is on the board, and you want Phillies next year's one in their three? Right? Yeah? Okay, thank you very much for the call. Appreciate getting next year's one and their third pick, their third round pick, and they get four. Yeah. Yeah, so you're dropping to eight. You're

picking up next year's one. I would get in their third. I would totally do that. Which is the one I was gonna say, I think just one, just the one. Yeah, you're only talking about four spots. Yeah, pick seventy seven is the one he's talking about. Though. This would be kind of similar to so you pick eight thirty four, sixty seven, seventy seven, right, and this, and then you get two first round picks. Next year you get right, bring it on. This would be similar to what the

Bills did to get Sammy Watkins. They traded a future one plus a three. I believe to get up and do that trade. So if the Eagles want a quarterback that badly you want to get in front of San Francisco. Dallas is telling Philly on the phone, and we got Chip Kelly and Trent Bulky on the phone. They're offering something. Maybe maybe Philly would do that, but I would be so fascinating. You should be able to do it just for the one. You shouldn't be right if if they

kicked it, they kicked the third. That would be even better. It would be even more fascinating if Wentz turns out to be something. I gotta figure out what we're gonna get at eight, though we do Philly wins the super Bowl because of a trade they made with the Cowboys, That's what he was talking about. Ear that would be can't do that else. You got to hope that you're on the beach somewhere and Puerto Rico when that hams? All right, Ken, who do you got Fernando in Vegas?

Go ahead, Fernando. Hey, guys, Hey guys. Uh So, would you take Ramsey and and Dixon or Elliott? And Okay, I'm going with Option B. Whatever scenario gets me Ezekiel Elliott is the one that I want. What he said, I mean, that's and a beast. I mean, really, Xavien Howard a lot too. So I mean I'm getting two. I'm getting a really good player at a position that I really need, cornerback, and then my favorite player in

this draft. Yeah. Sure, this is tough because I usually leaned towards the better player overall, which would in my mind, is right because you don't think Dixon, you don't think that, you don't think Ramsey's high enough to notify Dixon on my boards when the sixties or early seventies, something like that. It's me. He's an early third round pick. So for me, yeah, absolutely, you like Dixon a lot, I'll take number one. There you go, that would be me so good for you, guys.

Ramsey and you're taking Ramsey and Dixon. Oh yeah, absolutely, I got a one into two. A deal. Can't go ahead? All right? Last one Matt and Georgia go ahead, Matt. Oh, how's it going, guys? Um I saw a tweet to a Tard Archer suggesting that Zeke could potentially help the defense more than any other picket for and he was comparing Murray's twenty fourteen effect by helping the defense South Filton, but Todd Archer replied suggestion that Romo's presidence also help

the defense. So when you say that somebody like Zeke would help best Proos career, I think you certainly make that argument. Yeah, I think that's h and that is the argument for Zeke. I mean you're you're you're looking back two years ago with DeMarco Murray what he did for this team, and you think Zeke can come in and provide a similar type of impact. Not only is Zeke helping your quarterback and your entire offense as a whole, but uh, that creates a ripple effect, which again helps

your quarterback, helps the defense. So I mean that's why if this team picks a Zkie Elliott, I don't think they would, but if they do, zero problem with it. I'll have no problem being wrong if they take Ezekiel Elliott. This is bombastic and like kind of over there, yam. Somebody, somebody said that it might have been it was Douglas. Douglas said that the other day Zeke is Zeke is too Romo and l god, I can't even say it. Zeke is Terrell Davis to Romo's Elway is what I'm

trying to say. You bring in a young stud and you know, those Denver teams that won those Super bo didn't win him because John Elway was the end all be all, and if you got Ezekiel Elliott there, Romo doesn't need to be the end all be all either. It was good comparison, Douglas. I liked it all all right, well, very good, all right. Well that's all the time we have for the Draft show today. I want to thank

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