Draft Show: Mocking Everyone

roster on Thursday night. Guys, it's it's here. Brian brought us Kyle Yeoman's Bobby belt as usual. It feels like it was just yesterday that we were talking about the Senior Bowl rosters, and here we are ready to get into the gritty. Unless anybody's got sue something super pressing to say, we're gonna I know that this episode is gonna fly by, so we're just gonna hop right into it. If it's okay with you, absolutely, let's do it. We're all doing well. Thank you for asking. I appreciate that.

Bright No maps, that's the press, hopefully while we're broadcasting the draft on Thursday night. The MAVs will be closing out that series. Sorry for the like five Utah jazz slash Cowboy fans that are out there. No, no, they're out there. No harm intended, but yeah, go maps. Anyway, we're gonna do a seven round live mock guys. I'm excited about this. I'm excited to see where we can take it. So this is how we're gonna do it. I'm going to be your draft ganned off for the day.

I'm I've sort of put this whole thing together. I've got an idea of what's in front of us, but I'm gonna leave it all up to you. Like, I'm gonna let y'all sort of guide us where we go, whether you want to trade up, trade back, stand and pick all that type of thing. Y'all can sort of committee this thing and we'll see where it goes. Now, are we working together? As where are the front office?

You are the Cowboys front office? Okay? I am just the guy running the draft basically, So without further ado, let's hop right into it. Thursday night comes. I don't think the first two picks of this draft are gonna be surprising. I think it's gonna be Aiden Hutchinson and Tryvan Walker in some order. If I had to guess. In this scenario, Aiden Hutchinson goes number one overall of the Jags. The Detroit Lions follow that up with Trayvon Walker.

Pick three is where it gets interesting for me. Sauce Gardner goes three overall to the Houston Texans. I don't think anybody would be crazy surprised by that. Well, what's the chatter lately that's out there is maybe even as high as Stanley could go there and be the real surprise at three. I've heard them very tied to cornerbacks, so I think that's something we've got to pay attention to.

Run on Tackles begins right away with the New York Jets, uncertainty surrounding McKay beck and Ikey Aquanu from NC State goes four overall. Right after that, like we've been hammering for a couple of weeks, the New York Giants take Evan Neil. Now, Brian, I want to pause briefly here because this sixth draft spot is something we've talked a

lot about. Um, you know, if the Cowboys want to get uber aggressive obviously, a couple of guys that they've brought in on visits, Charles Cross Drake London are obviously still available. There's the Cavon Thibodeau after effect. Just crunching the math on this, I think you can get up there for your one and year two go from twenty four to six. Does that sound appealing to anybody in this room? It does, Yeah, it does. You know, again, you're looking at Carolina on the Cowboys strap board or

their chart. It would be about sixteen hundred points at Carolina. You're currently sitting at seven forty yourself. Your second round pick is worth three forty, so I mean it's close. You might have to throw a couple as Yeah, I think that would be a You know, I don't think Carolina would try and hold you up because I'm kind of getting a vibe in the middle of the board that those teams with multiple first round picks are interested in moving out of there and moving so maybe the

price of poker. You know, you could kind of convince Carolina, like listen, everybody behind you is willing to get out of their spot. You know, you could take this, this will be our best offer, and if you don't want to do it, then we'll find a way to go back and maybe get it one of these other spots. You know. I think that Houston at thirteen is a team you could talk about maybe moving. Minnesota at twelve

was another one, Baltimore at fourteen. So there's teams right behind Carolina that are interested in moving if you can wait on your guy. But if you have somebody clearly in mind, you know, I think that is that is the questions, like, do you have somebody clearly if just reading tea leaves, I think the Cowboys would be doing it for Charles Cross. That's probably my thought process with it as well. The other thing you think about here too, Brian, and I completely agree with you, is the fact that

the Panthers only have one first round pick. Yeah, and there's smoke where they could be looking at a quarterback. I don't know if you've heard anything specifically about that too. About they like Kenny Pickett. It's one of the only spots where he's actually favored to go over Malik Willis in the first round. So if they like Kenny Pickett enough, are they willing to trade out of that pick and go all the way back down to twenty four or

is it going to cost you more? See that's I think I think they're worried a little bit about the minefield that they're going to have to walk on that quarterback, you know. I mean I mentioned all those teams with multiple picks. Is somebody going to if they come all the way down to twenty four and they're hunting that quarterback? And then I mentioned all those teams that are interested in moving that second first round pick. Philadelphia might be

a team. You know, you just have to be like mindful that, hey, you could lose your quarterback somebody coming up the board and making a making a little bit of an aggressive play. Maybe Pittsburgh would be a team that I would think of that could be, you know, a team that so, yeah, you have to be able to evaluate where you can land. And I don't know if Carolina going from six to twenty four is really the best thing for them. Who are the threats? It's

for quarterbacks. It's Pittsburgh. But I think Pittsburgh. Everything we hear coming out of Pittsburgh is they really like Willis. Yeah, and so Willis. I don't think Washington. I think Washington people looking and go, oh, they could take a quarterback. I was here in Washington is really high on Hamilton and really high on Drake London. Yeah, and that that's

where they're kind of narrowed at this. I kind of was thinking more what you were talking about with the Saints and then also though with the with the Steelers though those were the two teams. I mean, I don't know if they can if they can drop all the way there. I think if if Carolina is looking at this, they have to say, Okay, we'll drop to the middle of the board. You know, well we'll figure out. I mean, that might be a spot. I think the Saints aren't

done moving myself. I think the Saints the team that maybe and here's Carolina, would you would trade within your division there? You know, I kind of I'll tell you this trade within your division to potentially give a different Yeah. But also I've also heard this though too about the

general manager that Scott Federer. He's he's in a mode right now where he might let this head coach hang himself that he's willing seriously and I know now this is this is one of those things where I think that he's I think this GM's willing to move on. I think he's I think he's willing to move on

from his coach. And you know, with that being said, it might be okay, yeah, go ahead and take this guy, or go ahead and make a move and go ahead and jack it all up, and then when you get fired, I'll hire the guy I want to hire and we'll go from there. That that's the kind of crap that goes on in in football offices all the time. Man, that didn't take long to fall from grace. Hum. No, not at all, not at all. But that's that's kind of where that's where the general manager at Carolina really is.

There are some definite downsides to the Cowboys model of ownership running the front office, but at least you avoid some of that type of stuff I think. I mean, it would bumm me out so hard as a fan to just be like, yeah, my GM's gonna stab the head coach in the back this weekend. Well, the gym's just gonna let him go. Yeah, you're like, okay, you want that guy, sure, take that guy. And then when the guy doesn't work out, then boomed. Then you know

they're not gonna fire me. They're gonna fire you for being an idiot. All right. So with all of that said, Carolina, I don't think moves, okay, And I don't think Dallas goods there. You don't you don't think they move period, or you don't think they move back that far. I just know I don't think they move back that far. Okay. Yeah. If they move, I see it being more toward like the eleven, twelve thirty. Yeah. So with that in mind, Carolina stays put. Charles Cross is the pick, which it's

almost like they were reading quarterbacks. No, they did not. They go Charles Cross. The New York Giants again at seven, then linked heavily to Sauce Gardner, but he is gone. They opt for Kyle Hamilton at seventh overall. Pick Cavon Thibodeau drops all the way to eight, and the Falcons stop that in a hurry, adding arguably the best pass rusher in the draft at eight overall. Not a bad strategy in my opinion. Seattle with maybe the first true

surprise of this draft, Trevor Penning at ninth overall. I'm not sure how to feel about that, but that's their apps. Your thought process there? Why why did he go there? I didn't do that. They didn't say it simul Okay, I didn't know it was a simulator. I thought you did this yourself. My bad. I mean, I put a lot of work into this, but I did not like manually. I thought, at least for the first round, you were

a surprise. I surprised myself. I trook Penning. Trevor Penning goes nine, which I disagree with, but I don't run the Seahawks. I wouldn't be stunned of Penning goes top ten though. Really it's Walker still on the board, no second off. Sorry, okay, I was late to starting to highlight these guys. I'm like, when we closer toward the Cowboys, brains, Okay, give y'all a list, got you? I got you. I was just I was highlighting him off the board, and I'm like, okay, what did I miss here? You know?

I'm sorry, No, No, you're good. Derek Stingley goes ten with the Jets second pick, and then I think, Bobby, your thought process is totally right. I think Washington is really eyeing a receiver. In this case, they take Garrett Wilson out of Ohio State. He is the first receiver off the board. Minnesota heavily linked to a cornerback. With the top two gone, they take Trent McDuffie twelfth. Overall, you know what, let's say real quick, I think that

that really hurt them to lose Stingley. By the way, I think, I think min Minnesota. I think Minnesota's locked on. They were locked on Stingley. So I think that that hurts him a little bit. As an LSU fan, it would be a bummer for me because I think him having Patrick Peterson in his locker room could only be a benefit for him. Brian's been on that pretty much since day one about having that that man tour in

the locker room. That would be a phenomenal pair. I still think there's a a not impossible chance that on Thursday night, Kyler Gordon goes ahead of McDuffie. Though no, I agree with a lot of people I talked to are really high on his upside ye, like he's got the higher ceiling, that's that's that's that's coming from this building. It's true. Jermaine Johnson goes thirteen with the Texans second pick.

He made some money in Mobile and then man, I think if there's one pick in the first round of this draft that everybody has just decided is going to happen. It's this one, which is another Cowboys target, Jordan Davis going off the board to Baltimore at fourteen. Now, I want to have another conversation here. I was gonna say, I think we're looking trade up territory. I mean we are. We are in the fourteen fifteen range, and at least one big name on the thirty visit list is still available.

A lot of people had Drake London pegged as a top ten pick, but he's sitting here available with the Eagles on the clock at fifteen. Again, having done the math on this, you could conceivably get up there if you really want to. For like, I don't think eighty eight is enough to do it, but no, probably you could throw in eighty eight and like a fourth. I kind of felt you could just throw fifty six and have it a done day. Yeah. I could do that too. I would just go ahead and go fifty six, fifty

six and twenty four. Do you feel like doing that? Do you well? Actually I was about to say do it? I feel like doing matter? Do I think the Cowboys a phillis let's answer that one, because that's the important one. Do you think I think the Cowboys love Drake London? I agree with you. They brought him here, which is an indicator. Yeah, and I think if he got all

the way down to fifteen, they'd get excited. I think they start having conversations if this is what happens, Yeah, I mean if it's But again, it's going to cost you likely your second man. I think that. To be honest with you, I think you gotta get to I know you made the pick at fourteen, right was Baltimore.

I was going to say, I mean, okay, the odds that they do back to back trades with Philly seems no. But I mean no, no, no. I was just thinking because Philly's a team that's also hunting wide receivers a little bit. So I mean, to me, does Philly move to twenty four thinking that they have a chance to draft Drake London? You know, I don't know if that drives I don't know if that drives them down the board to go do that. Maybe they like one of

these other receivers. Maybe they think Chris o' lobby is going to be there, something like that. But that they've got a second. They've got a second, you know, first round pick though too. Do they pick again at eighteen? Yeah? You know, does it? Do they do? They get cute there? I think the I think the Howie Roseman loves getting cute. That's like his draft day m O. But in the division with a potential wide receiver who's also a potential

target for your own team, I don't. I don't see maybe Eagles even having a conversation for tat the Cowboys helped the Eagles draft. Yeah, wasn't that different position though, because we're talking about if somebody in the division was getting him, So you just were picking who you were gonna help. So we think the Cowboys would be interested in doing this. But we also think that this particular scenario, the Eagles probably hang up the phone. Yeah, I don't.

I don't think they. I don't think they play ball with you. Yeah, aren't. And you got the Saints in that mix too, right there, with those picks coming up atteen six, they're looking at they're looking at wide receiver. Well, I just think if you really, if you're interested in Drake London, you probably have to go higher. I think you got to go to Baltimore. I think you got to go to fourteen, maybe Houston, just because that's the Houstons. Houston's another one. I mean, I just think you have

to get ahead of that. Philadelphia New Orleans kind of mixed. I think realistically, I mean, in the scenario, yeah, you gotta go to Baltimore. You maybe got to go to the Technis. I think realistically you may have to go to the Jets on Thursday night if you want to trade. Yeah, wow, Because I think Washington really likes Drake London. Okay, so if that, if that's the case, we're gonna probably lose Drake London. I mean, because I want to make this

thing as clean as possible. If I think, I think a flat second could do it for the Jets, drop back to twenty four, a deep receiver drafting you pick up fifty six. I think that could potentially do it. For See, this is where I was trying to trade. Remember the show where we tried to trade to Maury Cooper to the Jets for to move from twenty four to to ten. This is the kind this is when you needed that to work. That you said, Okay, here's

a player, here's a wide receiver. You took whoever you wanted at four and here you got a guy that's, you know, one of the top receivers in the in the in the NFL. So here here's your guy. Let us come up there. And now now you do. Now you had the opportunity to take to Drake London's and guys like that and not even have to worry about it. So some if this were to happen, the Cowboys would

need to jump somewhere between ten and fourteen. And I hear what you're saying, Bobby, but I think the more realistic scenario is they would need a little bit of luck on their side, Like, yes, Derek Stingley is still available, Washington ops to pick him, and now Drake London's falling to thirteen maybe something like that. I think thirteen to me looks like a very plausible landing spot if you

if you're trying to get up. See this, And this is something I brought up to Brian yesterday, is that like when Ceedee Lamb fell to where he did and everybody was surprised by it, that was just you were surprised because of how well everybody just kind of generally thought of Ceedee Lamb. We were we were selling Ceedee Lamb. I mean, I know on my board he was number one,

but you didn't you didn't hear it. I mean, he was what six on the board here overall, and so I mean, you know, but you didn't hear a lot of specific ties of well, the Raiders love Ceedee Lamb and this team, Whereas that's the difference here with Drake Lend And that's why I think it's harder to envision London sliding like that is because I know Washington loves him. I've heard Atlanta loves him. Jets. Do you think teams Shore worried that he did not run a forty yard dash?

It's interesting, I thought that was good. I've heard from a couple guys who didn't run forties this year, or heard about a couple guys who didn't run forties this year in just various positions. Didn't. It sounded like there's a lot more teams that are just not caring about that that they think they you know, they see the play speed on tape and they're not. It sounds like teams are getting less worried about the forty times kind

of antiquated a little bit less. Kirby Joseph at the Illinois Safety he didn't run a forty at all this year, and teams, I've heard there were a couple teams that told him like, we don't care. How much does like GPS tracking play into that, because it's not only play speed on tape and seeing the guy go from point A to point B, it's seeing specific numbers that match

up to that. Well. I think the other thing is, like Kirby Joseph had had he run or Drake Lenn, I think they've got a good idea of what London speed was, and so it's like, you know, he doesn't necessarily want to put it on there, but it's like, we don't need you put it on there because we know what you are. You're not burner guy, You're not running a four four. Yeah, so we agree jumping up

Drake London is a plausible target. It would have to be in that range, but in this mock, we're not more realistic going to one of the teams at thirteen or fourteen then going to six. Okay, yeah, I agree with that real quickly. How much does playing because we're talking about Drake London being so high on the Cowboys board. How high it being Chris Olave and trailing Burke's in that board as at the same time is going to

affect them moving up. So if they're so high on Drake London, is it that much of a gap to Chris Olava and Burks to where it's not worth giving up their second round pick to make that high. But yeah, that's a conversation. I don't I don't think Burk's and a Lava are getting to them at this point. See that's what I agree with Bobby on this. The more

I'm hearing things about that. Can you know my history is I worked in Green Bay and talking to folks there, they really love Burks And the reason they'll give you, they'll say is Davante Adams was a four five five guy for a guy coming out of Fresno, big body. Brian Gudicus, the general manage up to give me the big body guy. You know, it doesn't matter if he's a four or five guy. So it seems like to me, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to be ready

for a couple of things. You're gonna have to be ready for Green Bay at twenty two. If you want Burks, and I think you're gonna have to be worried about an aggressive team again. I talk about the the zerline mock draft where somebody gets ahead of Dallas for a lava, you know, and that's you. You might be a situation where if you're looking with at one of these wide receivers, you're gonna be wiped out before they get to you. I mean Arizona at twenty three, like, that's the trade

up targeting people. Look at Arizona just lost Christian. Arizona could take a receiver. They could, I mean they could take a love it. But now I think Packers and Burks. I think that you're gonna look the guys at Green Bay. I heard the quarterback there loves Yeah. I tried my best to talk y'all into a trade up to make this happen. I was trying to be Brian broad Us

and say, if you want your receiver, go get him. Yeah, no, y'all not no, no, no, no, you're not wrong, I mean no, no, But I say we're trying to find an area to go. I think you give us really good options because at twenty four, if we're gonna sit here and let this thing ride. There's a good chance that we're gonna lose London, Burks and a Lava all all off our board. Let's see how it plays out without a trade. Philly takes Drake London. Okay, how about that.

That's the same thing that happened with Carolina right after them. Oh, Brian, you're you're a smart man. The New Orleans Saints take Chris lave At sixteen LAH Chargers, a guy that I kind of It seems like people are thinking he's slipping a little bit. But in this simulation, George Karloftis goes seventeenth overall to the LA Chargers. There's a couple of guys real quick, if I could say something about this, Yep, there's a couple of guys in this draft and they're

both those defensive ends. Uh. It seems like that people are starting to think that Hutchinson and then and then Carloftis are who they are. Are you going to get any more out of these guys? Yeah? Yeah, I know you hate those that because I don't know understand him all that well. But what's the identity? Right? Yeah? What is the idea needs this team? But yeah, I think that to me, this is where there's a couple those guys and again it's it's guys you're starting to talk

to around the league. Is well, how good is this guy gonna be? Is he maxed right now? Is this other guy max? And those are the two names it seemed to be talking about. Are they maxed now? But in a draft where some people only have fourteen or fifteen first round grades, exactly closer you get to the twenties, I think the better value that is, Ye, Philly, a little bit of a curveball. Daxton Hill goes in the top twenty to Philadelphia New Orleans under the radar player

in my opinion. Davante Wyatt goes nineteenth. Pittsburgh sits tight, and they don't go with Malik Willis. They draft Kenny Pickett, who already has an office at their facility. Way to go, guys. Heartbreaking for me. Jamison Williams goes twenty one to New England. And again we don't have to get into a whole scenario, but if maybe a minor trade could be done, I wonder if you have to think about it here. That hurt, Yeah, that one hurt me because I was looking at that name.

He's starting to get excited. He's one of my top receivers also, and he's kind of forgotten because he didn't play recently or had the injury. Man if he would have fallen the twenty four, I think he would have been in that conversation. Bobby Belt also proving to be a very smart man. With their twenty second overall pick, the Green Bay Packers finally break their receiver drought and draft Traylan Burkes out of Arkansas, two spots ahead of Dallas, Arizona.

I'm not gonna call it a curveball, especially, I mean they need help in their secondary. The Cardinals draft Andrew Booth junior out of Clemson, and Dallas is now on the clock. If you're not keeping track at home, I

got you. Don't worry about it. Devin Lloyd is available, Tyler Linderbaum, Nakobe Dean, both of the guards, Zion Johnson and Kenyon Green Arnold, Eba Katie if you feel some type of way about him, Quay Walker, who is starting to get a lot of buzz as a first round pick, Travis Jones out of Yukon, Johan Dotson, the Penn State receiver. If you're hell bent on taking a receiveriver and Logan Hall, the versatile d lineman out of Houston. That is the

best of what is available to you at twenty four. Fellas, what are we doing so you can't go wide receiver? No, you could trade out and maybe go wide receiver in the early second if you wanted to maybe trade back. Can I just go a couple spots back and pick up something late because I feel like something like the Micah Parson situation, like somebody I like is going to be there. If I can go a couple of spots, can we can you tell me who you who you

think people might be trading up for. That's what I mean, because Dave gave you the list of guys that were there. Willis is still there? Okay, Malik Wills, there's one of your quarterbacks? Is still there? Carolina didn't take a quarterback in the first so maybe they could use their second. Yeah, they don't have a second. Carolina doesn't have a single. But Caroline has got six and then like one thirty

five or something. If this is something you want to do, if you are hell bent on bailing out, Kansas City's on the phone. Yeah, hell Bend. They love Arnold David Katie. They need help at pass rush. They don't know what's going to happen with the future of their defensive front. They are willing to offer you pick one twenty one in the fourth round and a sixth round pick. This is twenty nine or thirty to jump up from twenty

nine to twenty four. It's not a huge haul, but if you're convinced that somebody will be there, you can fall back if you want. What was that one twenty one? You said one twenty one, I'm back into the third. It's no, it's actually in the middle of the board, the early mid fourth. Yeah, okay, it's eight spots in front of the Cowboys pre existing fourth round pick. You got three pre draft visitors Linderbaum, Dean as well on the board. Yeah, I'll go back five spots for fourth fellas,

I at least need two out of three. If not consensus, I would prefer to think I would do it. I think I would need a little bit more. Is there anybody else on the phone? Nope, just just Kansas City, Just Kansas City. Come on, Brian, Brian, I think Green's making it to twenty nine in this scenario. Do you really I do, And because of the knee, I just thinking this is the way the teams behind you. I just don't think anybody's taken Green because between you you've

got Buffalo, Tennessee, Tampa, Green Bay. Tampa Bay can use offensive line, right, but you have you you. It's like the Slater Parsons will end up with somebody. We'll end up with Zion or Canyons. Y'all to crapper, get off the pod. Tags are touching there, Let's go. Let's go back, go back, We'll go back, all right, Cowboys call it in. It's not a huge Hallet's two extra picks. One in the fourth round. The Cowboys fall out of twenty four. Kansas City gets their pass rusher Arnold Eva Katie Buffalo.

Not a huge surprise. Johan Dotson goes in the first round. Now we're flying. Devin Lloyd goes to Tennessee. Love the fit of Tyler Linderbaum to Tampa Bay. They just lost their center and free agency Green Bay. I think this is just a value pick. Nakobe Dean goes twenty eight. So now the Cowboys are on the clock again and our guards are there. Both guards are both there. Now, you just got to rman, which guard you one? Which one do you want? Green? Yeah, give me green, gim

me green. Green's higher on my board. Give me the power. I'm not going to try to talk y'all out of it. Kenyan Green is your next Dallas Cowboy at pick twenty nine and overall lock it in. Kansas City follows that up by making their second pick for Kuaywalker out of Georgia. Zion Johnson goes to the Cincinnati Bengals, and with the last pick of the first round, the Detroit Lions get their fifth year option on Malik Willis. Good job for everyone,

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the draft Show. We just added Kenyon Green to our hypothetical roster. Probably not the haul you would have preferred, but you add two extra picks, one of which is in the fourth round, and you still get one of

your primary targets. I'll think you feel pretty good about that. Yeah, you know, what I appreciate is the way that we talked it through, because I think that, you know, I think Bobby did a really good job of just kind of making it like convincing us that, hey, listen, you know, we got both our guys there, which is a pretty

obvious thing to say. But you know, and then you start to factor in because I was having some thoughts about the whole thing with the knee with Kenyan Green, which is not a I mean, it's it's it's one of the things. It's like, hey, it's not a now thing, you know, but going forward. But you can say that about a lot of guys in this in this draft. But I do feel like we got the way the direction of who they have over one over the other, with the tags Green over Johnson on their board, I

think we got that right. And the fact that we're able to kind of just wade out, you know, hey, picking up extra picks in this draft, especially in the middle of the draft, I think is a good thing here as well. I also like the fact that it was kind of split initially, but we had somebody make the deciding fact. It's kind of what a war room is like to a certain extent. You have differing opinions, you have to have kind of both ends to look at, and then all of a sudden you come to that consensus.

And luckily, like you said, we had a consensus on the player. Made it easy whenever we made that decision to drop back and go get your guard, but it ultimately worked out in the favor and I like the move that was made. We're not gonna come close to finishing this at the eight. We're going, so I'm gonna try to zip through the second Just some highlights. Lewis scene is the first pick of the second round. Logan Hall goes early New York Giants with the risky pick,

taking David A Jabo in the top forty. I don't know about that, guys. Our guy, Jalen Petrie goes thirty eight. Bernard Ryman, a Cowboys target, goes thirty nine. Seahawks take Desmond Ritter. There's a little bit of a run on receivers here. So again, if we just want to have a brief conversation about trading up, sky Moore and George Pickens go back to back here forty three and forty four.

Kind here they would not take if they depending on we need to figure out if they think sky Moore's a slot only because I'm here and Whisper run out of time to figure stuff out. No no, no, no no no no no no no no, we do, I mean we do. I mean now we kind of feel like that he could play inside outside. But I was told that if don't look for this team to maybe dots and sky more guys, it might consider slot only type players. That's that's not going to happen here. You said,

George Pickens went forty four Browns. Can we like, like rewind that and maybe talk about that pick? No, that I that take? So that's I want to look at that because again, so they got their offensive lineman. That leaves receiver as like the big work left to do. Maybe like and again like just keep in mind the names don't really matter. It's just receivers are going off the board. Sky it could be Sky Moore, could be Christian Watson. But you lose George Pickens at forty four. Um,

does that scare you enough? You think back to last year we were watching those cornerback names all down the board to their pick at forty four, and it worked in their favor Kelvin Joseph Fell. But can you trust that to happen again? There's roughly a there's a one hundred and twenty point difference between pick forty four and pick fifty six. And keep in mind you have an extra fourth to work with. Now, you said, how much one forty four. It's a it's it's about one hundred

and twenty point difference. Okay, you know what I'm going to offer eighty eight and call it a day eighty eight to go up in the second Yep, it's kind of an overpay. I've got to I've got to get the guy right, which I don't have time. This is the Brian Broadest. I know what, guy, if you're talking about Pickens, why I don't need to go I personally, I don't need to go up and get Pickens. I would like I've got Jaylen Tolbert, I've got Christian Watson that are getting close. And even if I would, I

would I had, I would have Tolbert above Watson. Okay, So you're saying that you just want to sit then, right, Yeah, because I think receiver's deep enough. Even if second round doesn't work out. I think even if we're getting close to third, I think you find a plug and play starter. There's the third. There's an aspect of what you're saying that I completely agree with, because John MATCHI there, David Bell's there, Jalen Tolbert, Alec Pierce, Christian Watson, Justin Ross

Calvin Austin. I mean, you go down and down the list, they're wide receivers that are going to be there at eighty eight. However, I think George Pickens belongs in that upper echelon of those receivers. Hell, we were talking about going up to six in the first round to get a guy. Yeah, yeah, But when we're talking about what you're let's go get a guy, and then all of

a sudden you're scared. No, no, no no no, we're talking about cross as an option, and then we're talking about London going ten spots in the first and then even still we're talking. What I'm talking about here is I think that's a difference. I think you're you're seeing that Pickens and all those guys are the same. You're thinking that Pickens and Tolbert and all Pickens, Talbert Watts and

I think all the same same type of guy. I mean, different types of players, but same similar player in terms of what they're saying about the story from Bruce Feldman yesterday about George Pickens being a big Red Flag player, do anything to scare you off? Was at the Red Flag about the maturity, not a guy that you gotta handhold a guy that didn't impress in meetings. This hasn't scared him before. Fair, totally fair, that's good points. So

what's the consensus here? You know, me, personally, I love Pickens, but you know, I mean, I understand where he's coming from. He sees it. Okay, this is where the draft meetings work. I see Pickens higher than those other guys, So to me, it's worth it to go up. But if these two don't think that's the case, I'm gonna get beat on this. I'm kind of split in the middle because I'm with you. I love Pickings eighty eight to go up. What was it ten spots? Roughly ten spots, twelve spots? Yeah? How

much is of an overpay? Really? Is that? Because it here's the other thing though, I don't know, but you

got three of them. The more I'm talking about it, the more I think I sighed with Brian, because if he if he's our guy, you come out of this draft with a starter at guard, and you come out of it with a starter at wide receiver that you compare with with Cede Land because Michael Gallup, who he argues, he argues, the other guys are plug and play and we have to respect that it's such a deep draft,

and at receiver, it's such a deep draft. Period, Like to me, you're gonna sacrifice that third Okay, well, now you're sacrificing a chance at who's Sam Williams. You know there's another red flag guy? Yeah, well, I mean yeah, but I mean, like, like, look, let's see here, Ed, you're probably sacrificing the opportunity of Dominique Robinson, Cameron Thomas, Sam Williams, Ale Alex Right, Like, I mean those are guys that you can talk about here in the third

round that weren't going to be there in the fourth. Sure, So what's the I mean, Cleveland wants you to me, let's sit, Let's sit who'll sit it? Pickens stays with the Browns, Kyler Gordon value pick at forty five, Saints get Matt Carroll all the way down at forty nine. Not a bad deal there. Tyler Smith goes fifty one, perry On win win free fifty three to the Packers. Chad Muma to Chad Muma to New England would be yeah,

that would be perfect quintessential New England. Nick Benito to the Cardinals and now the Dallas Cowboys are back on the clock. Christian Harris is still there, Darian Kannard, Jamari Sailor. I can never say his name. Eliminate those offensive linemen. Yeah, I'm just telling you. Leo did Pickens go, He did gone.

Leo Chanelle is still there, Chanelle Jalen Tolbert's still there, Christian Watson's still there, Trey McBride is Metchi still there, Matchi is still there, Troy Anderson, Daniel Felele to Marvin Leale, those are the those are the big wigs, so to two receivers I think, I mean there. Yeah, Metchi, if you want to draft Metchi at this point, he's still around. He's the highest player on my board. I don't know about you guys remaining. I mean, sure, there's questions about

his his health. What's at edge? What is at edge? Um? I mean all the guys you just listed off from from the previous round. But in terms of like second round, boy Afe is still there. No, boy A Mafe is long gone. Jack Rap Jackson is long gone. Nick Bari, uh he, I'm just throwing it. I'm not necessary. I want to take Enigbari, but Enigbari is still there to me this, this is just for me. I don't know about Sheel. To me, this comes down to Tilburton Watson.

That's for me. If that's the case, I would take Tolbert. But I also like Metchi more than I think. I think this receiver's coach Robert Prince's in here. I think he's going to value Chris route running, you know, flexibility, things like I think you get all that with Tolbert. Yeah, Brian, you're awfully quiet in size. I got Watson higher, all right, I mean that's me I got I mean, if if I look at my stack, he's my fifty third best player, and nobody's going for Metchi here. I think I know.

I'm not. I'm not. I don't want to rehab to two guys with knees. That's fine. I just don'tunderstand that. I mean, I mean, Tilburton Watson are real. I mean, Tilburton Watson are the you know, same value to me, I've got them, Like, right, there is this a situation where the your tags take you away from the obvious player of need, Like how do y'all feel about Chanel or Christian Harris or shoot for Mark Hell I would

take I would Petrie. Petrie for me would make a I mean, I'm sorry on the board's no, No, I'm sorry. I'm more around Kyle the harder I guess to get it all straight. No, no, I understand. I mean that's Christian Harris is still on the board, right, Yep, it's at forty nine for me. Yeah. Um. But if you if you know, hint, my names would be Harris Watson. You know, those would be the two guys. We just got to figure out which one of these receivers you

like better. And my vote would be for Christian Watson from North Dakota State. So yours is Watson. You're close on both with too close on both. I like I like Watson's ability to stretch the field more like his speed, I think. But but Watson Also, if you watch Watson's progression at North Dakota State, He's steadily improved that everything every year, and so I like there's a bit of a projection there that says like, hey, he might be

able to, you know, reach a higher potential. I'm willing to give in for Christian Watson because it's close on my board. I'll go, we can go Watson. I've Watson the speed the threat because I mean, CD's not a burner, Michael Gallops not necessarily burner. Go ahead and get me a guy who can takes Ceedee Lamb and Tony Pollard off of the return game because you can put Christian Watson as a returner back there as well. I I like, send them deep, just just you know, hope those hands

get better. I'm not going to sway y'all one way or the other. But do you give him we forget? No, no, not at all. But is there any thought too maybe we can find a guy we like. I mean, Michael Gallop was pick eighty one. Maybe there's there's value in the third round. Maybe you think I think it's a lot of my top receivers in the third round. There are the guys that you know, Brian was just referencing, like they're not gonna take like smaller slots, Like they're

not gonna take Calvin Austin there. I don't think they're gonna take Kyle Phillips there. And so I mean that's that's the problem is that I think a lot of those guys in that territory we're talking about Slott, No, those are all good players. But I say that when when you start asking him questions about all these slots are like, ah, you're talking. You're talking about taking a flyer on Justin Ross out of Clemson or maybe an alec Pe at that point out of Cincinnati. Like it's

those types of guy. It's just not gonna be the Wandale Robinson's or the Calvin Austin's or the Khalil Shakers. He didn't like that, he didn't run it. But I watched Justin Ross and training run a seven nine three cone. Oh, it's like offensive lineman time. All right, I'm like I said, it's y'all's decision to make, and y'all have opted for Christian Watson out of North Dakota State. That would be a hell of a story just because the Cowboys they did draft Ben d Nucci. That's all the way back

into seven. They have not spent a pick this big on an FCS player in a long time. But lock it in. He is an immediate or you hope at least an immediate starter for this Cowboys receiver corps. Darien Canard goes right off off the board. Right after that, Chanel and Christian Harris are right behind him. Bengals and Broncos wrap up the second round with Nick Cross and DeMar Mathis. A couple of dbs will fly into the third round. I believe, forgive me if I'm losing track.

I think our first tight end goes off the board. Trey McBride at sixty five, Jamari Sawyer at sixty seven, New York. I like that pick a lot. Troy Anderson to Jacksonville Channing Tendal to the Bears at seventy one. Brian's guy, Luke Fortner, John Schneider, your buddy takes him up in Seattle. John actually drafting better now doing that. Denver grabs your guy. Bobby Kingsley and Nigbari at seventy five. Dylan Parham at seventy six. Is there are we starting

to get nervous about anything right now? Again? Like we're at this point, we're just like we're we're making picks. That's kind of what happened last year. Yep Is, once you get into like the second third round, you're like, all right, we got some picks, let's just make them.

I think after you make this pick at eighty eight, then you get on the phone, you start trying to deal one of those two fourths that you have or one of the four fits that you have to try and get back up into the top like one twenty five, maybe even top one hundred if you really wanted to push. But up until eighty eight, I don't know if you're really doing a whole lot. Okay, okay, um all right. Brian Asamoa goes of the Chargers, Greg Dolchiz to the Giants,

Carson Strong to Atlanta that bought a quarterback. A quarterback. Uh, Sean Ryan is the last pick before the cowboy. Nobody else seems to right. I think he's where he was picked, is right where he needs to pick. So these are the names that jump out to me that are available to you at eighty eight overall. Uh, John met She's

still there. That seems kind of redundant down Luke Godicky Abraham Lucas, Josh Pascal, the Kentucky Edge, Alec Pierce, Sam Williams, Kay Dotton, the Washington tight End that we know they liked. They like him also, Gilanni Woods, the Virginia Ty like him too. Those are that's that is the best of what is still hanging around. Um. The argument for me with Dion McCullum is still there, dominant, Dominique Robinson, Sam Williams, Josh Pascal are all there? Uh? Those are those are

the Cameron, Thomas and Williams. Out of those guys, Cameron and Tom, you're good at asking me questions that I don't say. Sorry, Cameron Thomas is available, Okay, I just want curious if he's in the conversation. You have him over, Sam Williams, they're they're riding around here together, third round right here with you the way my names would be right there would be Sam, Williams, Pascal, and Otton. Those are kind of the guys i'd have in that range.

Would you be interested in if we go edge here? Would you be interested in looking at getting back into the end of the third for one of the tight ends? If Otton or Woods are sliding you can do that now, Yeah, because you have the extra fourth, I would be interested. You want to go ahead and hit this defensive with Williams here quickly because I think they would make the Williams pick. But I also think Abraham Lucas out of Washington State would be in this conversation. Man, I'm gonna

play name like that. Idea a lot. I stacked the way I stacked him. Lucas was at seventy three, Williams was at seventy five, Pascal was at seventy seven, and Otton at seventy eight. So I mean, they're all right there. This is where I imagine Dan Quinn doing his best Rod Marinelli and just being like, hey, you got your offensive help, Yeah, you got it. And we never thought Sam would fall this far and here he is. Give

them to me. I agree with that. But then that's the other thing about the tackle position, or you do you really feel comfortable with Terrence steal it right tackle? I think they do to a certain extent. But Tyrn Smith isn't gonna be around forever. Abraham Lucas isn't immediately ready to be a starter. But this is the perfect they brought in where you could they brought in a vet over the weekend. I can't the guy's name escapes me. They visited with a veteran tackle over the weekend. Am

I the only one that saw this? No, you're right about that. I just wonder I don't have the name. I can't think of the name either, but I just wonder if um unless hold I would say, I'll tell you exactly who it is because I asked one of my u I'll ask one of my pro personnel, Sam Tivy. Thank you, Sam tvy And Sam Tivy is a professional lugger. Third tackle, has experienced both right and left tackle, has

even played guard. Two wouldn't be as productive now. The more he plays, the more pronius to getting hurt at this point in his career. That was what one of my I don't want to pitch that as like a cure all, but what I was going to say is I wonder if in their minds they're like, unless we wind up with a Charles Cross or a really badass tackle, maybe we just signed this guy in a week and we're and worry about it later. Just keep kicking that

tackle can down the road, which that's scary. At some point, at some point they got to do something, but doesn't sound doesn't mean it has to be this weekend. I'm okay with Sam Williams being the pick. He's on my board to lock it in. Sam Williams, I think if he's there for them at eighty eight, I think they would be elated. I'm really happy with this draft so far. Let's just say that so we fly through. I hate Bobby,

all right, we're gonna what did I do? I mean, I got you your guy Sam Williams, and I think you have an extra fourth in the first round. Hey, can we use that fourth now to go get a tight end? I think that what do we want to do? No, let's let's round this scenario about. Let's round this scenario out before we go to break and just finish off the third round. So we think maybe trying to get a tight end at the end of the third round

is realistic. Use what's the next pick one one twenty nine with the extra fourth that they like Ferguson, the Wisconsin guy too, by the way, So if we're if we're not interested in adding that tight end, let's see if Ferguson's maybe they're at one twenty nine. That's a guy that've kind of talked about like Otton and Woods more though right, yes, I have a feeling they're about to be gone, So let's just say they wait for the end of the third I think you could do again.

So you have one twenty one and one twenty nine. Now, I think you could get up there for like one of those fourths and shoot, that might be enough. That was about to say, or maybe throw in a fifth because you got four of the damns. You have one twenty one and one twenty nine. Yeah, so that's fifty two forty three. That's ninety five points. I mean in my mind, I'm thinking round one oh four. Yeah, one of the rams are always f thumb picks anyway, somewhere

between one hundred and one hundred and five. So Alec Pierce goes ninety one, Abraham Lucas goes to Baltimore. Baltimore is my favorite. They are my favorite. Two Cincinnati's actually my favorite. Bet Cameron Thomas goes to the Browns. Um, yeah, those are those are the big picks. So it's pick one oh four. We'll just use bobbies. Are tight ends? Are there? All of your tight ends are there? Yeah, let's pull a track. Let's go up and get cool. Do you want to go up? Brian? Are we using

both furts here or are we just using one fourth? Well? Didn't you just do the math for I did? I did the math with both forts. Are we okay doing that? Because you're still getting your fourth pick either way like you had originally one twenty one is worth fifty two and one twenty nine is worth forty three picks to go up for eighty eight, a little bit of an overpay, but not a huge one. Six. We want the player we need to go all right? Who who do we want?

Do we want? Are we going after Woods? What are we thinking here? I think you get Woods? I would go I might lean Oughton. I'm looking at my board and I have otten above Woods on like Jilanni woodods is there's my guy, It's Otton. It's been that way since day one. Okay, let's do it, Kate Dot, pull the trigger, Kay Dot, and come on down at pick one oh four. We're good at this. Ryan getting all his guys but still hates me because he didn't get Pickens.

I'd still about you learn because by the way, brisket sandwiches at the station today. That brings the money rounds to a close. Uh. And the cowboys have added can we need another two hours through this show? Now? We're gonna zip through day three anyway, because who the hell knows what's going to happen. That might be some chaos there, Kenyan Green U the who is the damn second round pick? Christian Watson see exactly. You've already forgotten his name. Christian Watson,

Sam Williams and Kate Otton. I think if that could add Pickens, but Bobby was a boy a bullet or come closer. I don't want any more red flag players. Brian, you know me and the questionable character Brian love Cincinnati as damn right Baltimore. I had a Pickens at Cincinnati one time. Is a damn good player. We're going to take our great that's a character problem issues and try to zimp through the rest of this seven round mock

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to the Draft Show, presented by Miller Light. We deserve a round of Miller Lights after adding all these badasses to the roster, aren't right, We're gonna We're gonna, I mean, we're gonna wrap this up as quickly as we can. We can't spend thirty minutes on each of the day three rounds. There's just no way. But we're gonna take you through this. So the Cowboys don't pick in the fourth anymore because they trade it up for their tight end. I think we all feel comfortable with that. Sure, yep.

They pick for the first time on Day three at one fifty five. Just looking in the fifth round, Michael Clemens the A and M edge that I think they like, they do he is they do? Verse guy taken in the fifth too bad, that's a pen throw. Justin Ross goes to the Giants. Giants making a lot of interesting picks in this draft. Donovan West one fifty of the Bears. Jalen Watson, the cornerback we just talked about the other day,

goes to Atlanta. So with the Cowboys on the clock at one fifty five, you do have some interesting options available. The irony is, and I don't feel bad about what we did, but the irony is there are a few really good tight ends still available. Whether that's see that's where I was thinking about two. I mean, I love Oughton, but I kind of know how they feel about they love Otton and Inn or Virginia guy. But then Ferguson the Wisconsin title is still there at one fifty five.

James Mitchell, what's is gone? Right though? Woods is long gone? Yes? I um Percy Butler out of Louisiana, okay, No like no varone, mckinn no verme, McKinley, went um Yusef Corker is still there at safety um what a name you got some offensive lineman Logan Bruss and Mitchell who's on the interior defensive line? Um, I don't want to butcher his name, but the Iowa State guy? Okay? Who was Zurick? Who I did all? By the way, I did all the phonetic spellings for you last night. I thank you. O.

Tito Obonia out of Ucla still hanging around. U. Tyrek Smith out of Ohio State is still there. In terms of like cowboy targets, I think it's can I hear linebackers? You can hear linebackers? Mike Rose, Mica McFadden. Oh, that means Mike Rose just went Um. Both of our guys that we talked about, de Marco Jackson and Brian Smith are still there. Wouldn't be against de Marco Jackson in this spot. This is the fifth right, this is the fifth round. Wouldn't be mad here? Aaron Hansford, close friend

of Babe Bloffenberger. Is there a decent number of running backs pretty much all of the ones you would expect. The Mere White from Georgia. Uh, my guy, Actually, I believe Rashad White is still available. Who's just who's the top who are like the top names on the all section. Um, like we're the top like three or four names. Brian Robinson junior Alabama Boys, A tough guy, James Mitchell, Jake Ferguson, Like like the tight ends are probably the best two

players avail. See. Okay, let's just real quick circle back on that. We made the move and we moved on from those fourth round guys. Should we should we have thought? I mean, I think we thought of that. But going into the draft, is this really is this a realistic thing? Like if you start talking about going to get kid and guys like that, can you say, well, hell, we like Ferguson just as much. Maybe all these tight ends will still be there. I think it depends on how

you feel about Dalton Schultz. Do you feel like you're going to the cafe as though adult and like what we needed covered we got covered in the first two days, right, and so anything else is going to be kind of icing or you're looking for depth. I'm not drafting day. I'm not really fourth round. I think you still want guys to have a role as a rookie starting in the fifth I'm just like, yeah, bring him on and see what he can do. I don't. I don't mind

going top player on the board. I don't mind going Brian Robinson. UM, be honest. Also, I want to throw this out there. I forgot this caveat. I'm using a simulator from my dear friends at the Draft Network. They don't include kickers, So Kade York and Cameron Dicker and all those guys are not part of this. But therese are people too, I know. Come on the Draft Network. Um, if y'all want to draft day kicker, just tell me and I will waive my gandoff staff and make it happen.

What do you want Brian other than George Pickens? See, I don't think they'll take a kicker at all. Then I think this is I think this is bones fossil. Just you know, he's going to prove he's the smartest guy in the room and I don't need to draft a kicker. I'll go find a guy that kind of thing. Where do you have Brian Robinson? I got him in the fourth round, so he's sitting here in the fifth. You think they double up on a receiver. They might, but can't. We can't. We look at Velis sure. A

little bit later, Vleis Jones is still that. I said that because the guy that yawed of Tennessee, by the way, the guy y'all all really liked that of Texas tech Eric E. Zukama is still now. He's still here. He's still here. Like they're they're a good players, still available, They're just not at the positions. I wasn't crazy about it as a common but I'd take him in the fifth probably, But I don't know. Brian Robinson. Is he

a blinking light for you? Brian? I mean when you watch him play man, I mean it's it is a physical, it's a he's a complete back. I mean he watched him. I mean he is. He is tough, he blocks, he runs the ball well, he runs, sup tackles. You could throw him the ball. I mean he was super super impressed him in the Florida Guy where two of am I I'm willing to go Brian Robinson here. I don't

know about you, guys, I'm okay with it. I'm you know what in the more, Daniel Pierce is who I was talking about and I had their tax touching back and forth. That's RB seven, RB eight for me. But Robinson's above him. And if you're looking at the running back situation. Who knows about Zeke's future? Who knows about Tony Pollard's future? This is a developmental back. Dan, he's gone, by the way, I'm program guy. Either way, give me Brian Robinson Junior. We were all good with that. Brian's

a little hesitant. I think I don't know, man, I mean we also pick again in like twenty picks or not even so this is we're talking the fifth right, You've got twelve picks, you think, Yeah, that is the fun thing about this is you don't have to wait long to make Do you think we need to give Dan Quinn a pick here? Well, I'm thinking, like, I really I really like J. T. Woods to the safety from Baylor. Yeah six, he's not in their database by the way, Dave, Oh is that right? Yep, that's a

shame definitely available. Yeah. Well no, I'm just saying if you're I mean, because I got Woods over Robinson, and I was just thinking about by how much like no tags like literally one five wow, and so that's out of one after this one sixty seven twelve picks later, if you want to, you want to ride it and see if we can get if we can see who's available there, well, we know Woods will be available because again he's not in the data back leave. It's a

bobby to break my simulation. I think that you know, I have no problem. I have no problem with Robinson. I mean seriously, his tape and you know what, there's not a lot of wear and tear on this guy. No, he was a one year starter at Alabama. When you think Obama running backs, this ain't that just in the sense that he had he waited, He waited his time. I mean he I mean he's super productive catching the ball, the blitz pick up stuff. You can watch him in

the n A and Him game. He blitz pickups and then it's like okay, there's a scramble and then like he goes out in the flat, catches a ball and gets like a first down after he keeps his quarterback from getting hit. I like Brian rob and all right, that's the pick one fifty five Brian Robinson. The tight ends go fast. Mitchell and Ferguson both go quickly. Uh Ezukama goes to the Chargers um some offensive tackles Max Mitchell and Braxton Jones. Philly drafts Jack Cone I don't

know about that. It's rough. No offense to him. Uh Otito Obonia goes to Vegas. Mike Oh Philly drafts and my guy ty Davis Price. Nobody talks enough about him. Good running back Alabama? I mean it should be the Florida game, right, Yeah? Set the LSU record. Yeah, Cowboys are back on the clock at one sixty seven. You know, I really like that J T. Woods guy. Let's go J T Wood my life? You want to go J T. Woods here? Brian, you know what, I have him in

that spot unless you guys get somebody else. T Woods, let's go. I mean, Nick, guy's a turnover machine. I mean, yes, let's do it. Tyree Smith is still there. Kaylin Barnes is still there on JT. Woods. You wanted us to go fast? Okay, cool? Cool cool? J T. Woods out of Baylor is your pick. At one sixty seven, Darry Rosenthal goes. Tyreek Smith does finally go. Pierre Strong Junior, who a lot of people really love, goes to Green Bay, which I like. Um Andrew Stewart to the Bengals, use

of Corker to the Rams. Cowboys are back on the clock. Is Marco Jackson still there. Can I stand on the table for him that Marco Jackson is still available? I would have no problem with that six. I mean, okay, I know I said hurry up, but I just want to I'm trying to be third. But I mean I think everybody's in agree, like, like there's a point where these things. I mean, if you want to go do an overview of it, fine, but I think everybody feels good about go ahead and run through the picks, because

we pick again in two selections. Martin Emerson, the Mississippi State corner still there. Like him, he's a six two to a one. Dane Belton, who y'all really liked from Iowa, but we took another safety already with um My Corners there who Brian now hates the USC guy. Veyleis Jones Junior is there? Yes, yeah, Chris Paul, the Tulsa guard is there. Cade Maze is still kicking around. Maybe in the cade Mason Paul can play tackle? Uh okay, uh? Did I already say Valis Jones Junior He's still there? Oh?

All right? Valis Jones is somebody that we pick again. Win two picks, two picks at one seventy eight and then again at one ninety three, So you've got three in the next you want to go. So you want to go Jackson here, DeMarco, I'd love to. Yeah, Jackson, they're gonna They're gonna add a linebacker somewhere. There's another small school guy too. What they do I know, Apple app State isn't small school to beat the Yeah, they beat teams. That's the thing that beat regularly. They make

bowles in the abs. Y'all, y'all want to y'all tried so hard to draft Ronald Blair on this show, so you can go get to Marco Jackson. Yeah, I feel like he turned out to be like Dad. No, but I mean he was, he was Appolachi. I'm just saying you tried to draft an Appalachian State guy for two months. Marco Jackson is the pick. At one seventy six. The Lions take Dane Belton out from under you. Well, I mean, we already drafted the safety, so we don't really care

that much. This is where that Martin Emmerson and out of Mississippi State comes into one seventy eight. Emerson is still there, as is Vealis Jones. Like him my guy, Richard White just tumbled to the end of the fifth. That's devastating, um, but not surprising. They all want more names. Chris Paul is again still there, Kade May's Alec Lindstrom the Boston College. I think you're okay there. I like, I like Vealis Jones, I have Emerson might a double dip guy, somebody who can do stuff for Bones on

special teams too. So we're and we talked about that with Watson though, right, yeah, he's gonna be less. I think is as is that you're stealing somebody. Less has all pro potential. I think as a return guy, I think I just want to highlight for the listeners that y'all are saying, f them kickers, f them just no kickers. I just so yeah, I mean, I mean, let me let me bust your chops, Kyle, come on, no, I mean, I appreciate my chops being busted. I just I just

feel like they put that out Bones. You know, Bones is he's smarter than everybody in the room. Guy. Yeah, you know what would seem logical would be, oh, well, let's go get one of these legitimate kickers, you know. I just I mean, I would draft a kicker in the fifth I've been saying it all year. It pick it No, No, because what I was gonna say is if they don't. And I think you make a good point that I think the special team's coach thinks the

way that you think it is. Um, so we're using a special team's pick in the fifth round on Vellis Jones Junior and not on a kicker. I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to railroad anybody, but Vellis Jones is where I would like here. Yeah, you have him higher than Emerson because I thought you said you liked Emmerson Emerson. Yeah, it's me. I like it. I have Emerson Emerson. I mean, consider the Kelvin Joseph situation. I mean one for one, but yeah, death doesn't hurt.

I think you could get Jones at one ninety three. I am I want Jones at one ninety three. I was thinking one ninety three. I had in the back of my head that might be my dart to throw at Kyran Johnson. Oh okay, that's kind of interesting because I don't think he's undrafted. No, and that's your last pick, isn't it. Ah, Yes, it is so, I mean, that's just it. That's kind of what I had in the back of my head. I was thinking you could go Jones Johnson. But I mean, if you want to go

Emerson Johnson, that's fine too. You've got your receiver, You've got Christian watching. I know. But I'm in love with like Gallop and said in the same draft worked out so beautifully, and I did you just love receivers, And yes, every time I do. It's fine. It's fair to point out that they still have semi Phijoko. They don't need a receiver, not not anymore, not having added one. Ryan, would you rather go Emerson or Jones. I'm looking at my board right now. I know we don't have a

lot of time. That's okay, we're already over. It's fine. Yeah, I think I would go I think I'm gonna go darn it. I'm trying to kind of get where those tags are. I'm getting down to it. I'm sorry, I think I would go Jones. M M. I love it, okay. I mean, yeah, I wasn't. I said I wasn't gonna sway it. But I'm happy when it sounds like I'm happy with that decidy making process, and you know what if I did, so the hell what? Rashad White finally goes off the board. I don't get why I love

him so much more than everybody else. We go to the sixth round, Zachary Carter, Jerome Ford literally made. He goes to Buffalo, Kwon Thornton goes to San Francisco. I really went with the room on that one, because I have Emerson at one sixty four and Jones at one sixty seven. Emerson does finally so close. I don't have I left it up to you. I know, I know I went with the room. When you pick a one ninety three, who did you say you were? Oh, Kyron?

I just was interested in Kyron Johnson potentially here. But I mean, who's there? Kyron Johnson's still there? Uh? Emerson has gone, Dan Chris Paul, Oh no, I'm sorry, Chris Paul has gone. Cade Mayze is still there, Alec Lindstrom is still there, Charleston Windstrom still there. Yeah, Charleston Rambo still there. Former Oklahoma roommate with Ceedee Lamb. They were roomed together. Did I already say Smoke Monday best name in the draft for the name. No, he went to Auburn.

I'm not doing. They're gonna smell some sell some jerseys, Haskel Garrett, Thomas Booker there. Uh you know what at this point? Oh no, I was about to say at this point, I have no idea, but he is. He is still there, Thomas Booker out of Stanford, sitting there defensive tackle right, YEP, I might be able to play some four eye Connor Heyward, the Michigan State tight end, our buddy Grant Calcata from SMU. You know what I mean, That's what I'm saying. You don't know what Bobby's Bobby's

guy Isaac Taylor Stewart, USA. No, I know. I knew he was gonna be there because no one else likes him. Did we take a stab at a quarterback at some point for a back? I'll tell you what. You know, it's not a terrible idea about Bobby's USC guy, because that guy does have LinkedIn. You're looking at for traits right now, traits that can run. So I wouldn't be I wouldn't be opposed to that at the four two six foot I wouldn't. Plus, I wouldn't be opposed to

that right now at all? Okay, what do you just what? Hellman? Call him karate jazz. Oh, yeah, the karate jazz guy. I'm I can't wait just to answer your question, Kyle, I mean really at this point and I'll just I'm stealing it right out of Dane's draft guy. All of the qbs with draftable grades have gone by this point. Cole Kelly out of Southeastern Louisiana and Rock Purdy are still there. Remember, Yeah, Kellen Moore went to the Iowa Stay workout. He did, He did so, Purty, you might

want to keep an eye on that one. With Will Greer and Cooper rush here, it doesn't feel very important to me, sure though they are both in contract years. There were a couple of guys there though at Iowa Stay two though, because Kohler's there and Breeze Hall, I was gonna say, I bet that was just about as much about Kohler as a couple. I have no problem

with with Taylor Stewart. I really don't. The big long cornerback, yeah, I mean, I've got to miss my head of one seventy seven on my board, so I'm okay with that. In the six lock it in. That is your final pick of this mock. I feel pretty good about it, guys, I thought, what's the overview? You got the overview report. I've got it if you want it. I actually do, because I got so wrapped up in reading stuff off that I didn't write it down. So at twenty four

we traded back with Kansas City. We acquired one twenty one and an extra sixth which we didn't pick, by the way, so we might actually have another pick, but we just don't know about it. Yeah, I wasn't numbered. I mean, if you want to throw another name, no, no, give them their kicker because the fans will want their kicks from Penn State is still there. If we want to throw him in the mix, which kicker do you like better? Dicker or your Now we're drafting kid. You

are there in the rain. We know what balls will do, but this is we're doing that for the fans of the draft. Just because they won't draft a kicker doesn't mean we can't. This is our war. Boom got it. Throw him in there, thinks Kansas City. We went from

twenty four down to twenty nine. We picked Kenyon Green, first round pick from out of Texas A and M in the second at fifty six, we decided to go Christian Watson wide receiver out of North Dakota State, third round to pick number eighty eight Sam Williams, edge rusher from Ole Miss. No pick in the fourth round because we traded back up into the third round pick number one oh four trading with the Rams, we drafted tight

end Cade Otton out of Washington. Then you go further down to the fifth round after giving up both of our fourth round picks, one of which we were required from Kansas City. At one fifty five, we picked Brian Robinson junior, the running back from Alabama pick one sixty seven and the fifth JT. Woods safety out of Baylor one seventy six to Marco Jackson linebacker round of Appalachian State one seventy eight, Vellis Jones junior wide receiver and

special team's extraordinary out of Tennessee. And then in the sixth round, we took one ninety three Isaac Taylor Stewart corner out of USC for his traits and Cade York undisclosed pick in the sixth round kicker from LSU, a pick that will not be numbered, but we really don't know it because we made this whole thing up, but we did not pick George Pickens. No, we did. No. No, what you know the more if this is the class, No, listen to those names. Listen name class. I would say,

it's real quick. I know, we gotta get going. But the fact that you guys talked me into the trade back and you still got the guard, but then it allowed us to get the picks with the fourth round picks to get the tight end. I'm totally on board with what I've done there. Love that idea and like it can it can get kind of ambitious, like people are like, oh, well I did this and I fell back and I jumped forward, But like those are both

pretty manageable trades. Yeah, no, you didn't make You didn't make big swings at those No, that was all I mean, we did talk about we didn't have to six is unrealistic to try and get above, you know, to go get Drake London, I think is a is a kind of a dream, but it's there the other ones. I

think we're very manageable trade. It's with the players that we went for, you know, guys that we know that they like, we were conservative where we needed to be, and we were aggressive where we need no Madden trades. It was pretty realistic. We we only went eleven minutes over and we got through all seven rounds. More than anything, I'm proud of that. Certainly, none of this is going to come close to coming true now that we've laid it out so beautifully, but hopefully you have a feeling

of what to expect in all of the important rounds. Anyway, of this weekend's twenty twenty two NFL Draft. The next time you hear us in your ears, we will be doing it for real Thursday night. Guys, we're gonna what we're simulcasting one oh five three the fans Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The four of us will be joined by Sean Sharif. Dallas Cowboys Radio Network is Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Yeah, we we're gonna have you covered from wall to wall

every single picks starting on Thursday night. We find a way to get rid of Bobby so we don't have these discussions so we can draft George. We can't wait. We will see y'all then, Thanks so much for listening. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club