Draft Show: LIVE From Senior Bowl - Day 1

in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Hi, Brian. We're a long way from the s WBC Mortgage studios here, yes, but we're making it work because the Draft Show we always talk about we're here to investigate and to He needed himself on No. I just wanted to see if you guys were listening. I want to make sure of that. But yeah, we're here immobilemobile Alabama and uh had a couple of practices today.

We'll get right into this. Had a way in this morning, had a had a practice, uh morning really an afternoon practice with the South team and then the North team had their practice with Jason Garrett and that crew this afternoon. Uh, well, you know I want to get into that myself. I will. We are not going to take any calls today. We'll be able to take some Twitter questions. Dave Hellman will do that. We'll do it. We'll try and do some I don't know what the time, the way it is.

I don't know if we can do Twitter on the twenty, but we'll call it that. We'll just spring whatever we want, yeah, Ken Garrison. Ken Garrison executive producers telling us we can do whatever we want, so we will. But yeah, we'll take you with questions. We don't have any ability to take any phone calls right now, but if fire us up, line us up with some tot of questions, we'll do our very best. Make sure you're doing it at the

draft show. In that way, we can can kind of rally them all together and then answer them when we see fit. Maybe as we go along day we'll just pop some in and depend on the conversation. Anything this morning, guys, come out of the way in for you any You know, we've been watching a lot of tape, which is my favorite thing to do, is David Hellman. Brian loves to watch tape, got o Griden, the tape, got to grind

the tape. So yeah, but is there anything though from guys you've seen that You've been watching the tape and you're like, man, this guy is bigger, he's smaller. Well, I didn't expect that, you know that type. And and Dane, you've been to an All Star game. I mean you did some stuff. I mean not all these guys were there, of course, but uh, any any thoughts of any guys that it was kind of Hey, this guy is a little bit bigger than I thought. He's a little bit

smaller than I thought. Well, for a lot of these guys, it's checking the boxes. You know, look at Carson Wentz. You know, we knew he was gonna come in around six five or sixty six, and he did. But hand sized checks at ten rushes, and that's you're looking at. You know, bigger hands doesn't necessarily mean a better quarterback,

but it's more of a threshold. You know, for quarterbacks you want at least nine and a quarter nine and a half, which is not good news for Brandon Allen, who was at eight and a half in chants right, and now it's not impossible for these, you know, players with smaller hands not to have find NFL success. It's just you look around the NFL. Not many quarterbacks with small hands doing much so but for the most part,

nothing really surprising. Um, you know, I think a lot of these guys, like I said, it's more checking boxes, verifying what we see on tape, verifying you know what we thought would be. Uh, you know, their heights, weights, arm length. L Raven Clark the wingspan, I mean sure, I mean what was it. It was seventy six eighty five almost eighty six inches wingspan. I mean it's a tech offensive tackle. Right. He puts his hands out, he

starts flapping. He might fly away. That's ridiculous. So h L Raven Clark really impressed during the way ends Miles Killerbrew the safety. He looks like he belongs in the front of a magazine. Yes, Fitness grew wrong about him. By the way. I'll go, I'll go at early ad knitting on that we sat down and watched. We get we'll get into that. And and today when you watched him in the North practice. I even wrote about this. It's gonna go up on Dallas Cowboys dot Com a

little bit later. On which I encourage you to read, which I encourage you to read. I wrote about Miles Kilbrey. I need to go back and watch more tape of him because there were some plays that he was made. But we'll get to that. We'll get to Miles kilbog in some guys. David, is there anybody though that you know? I know you were, you know, in a scrambled mode trying to grab me and we got coaches. Day was

today was a day? Yeah, it was good. I mean from eight o'clock in the morning until two hours from now, it's kind of NonStop. But I'll throw one out at you just really maybe my main impression from the day, I was really bummed. Um obviously hurt himself. It's not his fault, but Carl Joseph had to pull out of the game. His teammate kJ Dillon, that dude can hit man. We're talking shorts and pad you know, not even lighting

dudes up. Yeah, he put it was our boy Tyler Irvin, which granted, I mean he's the Lance dunbar two point zero, so it's not like he's putting the wood on Derrick Henry. But I'll tell you those blew that guy up, you know,

non padded practice. Yeah. I'll tell you something about Tyler Urban though that I really really like is I thought he's bigger in person, like five oh ninety seven ninety five pounds, I think if I got that right around one nine yeou Yeah, he looked bigger in person than he did on tape when you watched San Jose play. And I thought that he was one of those guys

that when you when you watched him play today. I thought that that Lenahan, those guys came up with some stuff for him to do that was actually pretty good. You know, another thing and back to the Way and another thing that really stood out. And you know, I watched most of the Way in with with Nick Eatman and Rob Phillips our other DC dot com writers, and nah, when he came up on stage. You know, he's not a he's not a power five VCS guy. You don't. You don't hear a whole lot when you think of

Louisiana Tech. Actually all three of them. Uh, Victor Butler, Jeff Driscoll, Ryan but Arm, Sorry you right, Victor Butler. He plays him, He played and he played with the cow He played with the cowboys, a few years ago, uh, Vernon Butler, Jeff Driscoll and but Kenneth Dixon really yeah, he's a big guy. He I mean, you know, we'll put together. You do not think of a big workhorse

running back when you think Louisiana attack. But he definitely passed only five ten but two hundred and fifteen pounds. He had smaller hands, which I was surprised to see because he is such a reliable as catch out of the backfield. But he overcomes that the hand size. But you're right about the Louisiana tech guys, and I think that carried over into practice. Especially Butler. He really impressed me.

He he looks a little bit like just his facial features but like he reminded me of DeMarcus Ware and I know that. Yeah, but like, and he's not played in the same position or anything like that, but he's a big, scary looking long arms to Yeah. We talk to me real quick about it. And And you very early in practice you were talking about Braxton Miller and the and the weight that we had for Braxton Miller was

a two fifteen. He comes in at two o four and he's something to try and maybe you know he's already a quick player both, but something maybe help him a little more. Yeah, And you could see that throughout this season. I thought he was really trying to shed some of that weight. To me, the Ohio Steak guys really stood out. Yeah, I mean the Washington kid was really Dolphins Washington to tackle. Nick Vannette the tight end, Yeah, you were talking about him, he might, he might be

the top senior tight end in this class. He was underutilized. But you know, Braxton Miller, we talked about being underutilized in the Ohio State offense. Nick Vanette the same thing. I had nineteen catches last year. But back to Braxton, it just there's so many athletes out there, but then there's Braxton Miller. I mean, he's a step above these guys. And that's no you know, throwing shade at those other guys. It's just Braxton Miller's just so elite as an athlete.

The body control, his short area, quickness, the long speed, it's all there. And obviously he's still raw and you could see that in his routes. He needs to learn a better nuance how to use his hands. But a player that moves like he does, and he caught everything, And I think it's just he's a natural athlete. The quick reflects, it's it's all there and on display. So we'll have to see how he improves throughout the week. But he set the bar pretty high in nine first practice. Yeah,

I really did. I liked Derek Dooley, the Cowboys receivers coach, does a really nice job with his drills and you and you get something out of movement, and you get something out of the ability is the break that drive all those things extend for the football, you know. I think that he put those North those northern receivers, North receivers through a lot that where you can get something. If you're a scout that was on the other side of the fence, right, you could get something like you

were just talking about. And we see the tape with Braxton Miller, but now you're watching him in and out of cuts, turned the bound all those things the great athletes are able to do. Yeah, you want to see that short area quickness because you want to see how they are at the top of routes. You know how they do. And another thing we saw is as a punt returner, he was fielding some punts. Yes, yeah, not

something we didn't see it Ohio State. No. Obviously we saw him on transition to wide receiver a hybrid h back position his past year, but he didn't play special teams, so seeing him field punts was good, you know, to expand on that versatility with Braxton getting into we've talked about we've just kind of jumped into, you know, just jumped right in and talked about, but let's talk about really what we thought from Carson Wentz today. You know,

and and and you know again North quarterback. Uh, he's in a he's in a group with some other quarterbacks that quite frankly, I was not overly impressing Hogan was in that mix. And then also Kessler. Yeah, I think that was a little bit of a struggle for those guys today. But talk about you know, initially saw some tweets from you that it was very positive about what you saw, uh, with mechanics and things like that, just kind of go into what you thought with his day.

It wasn't a perfect day, but I thought that was much more good than bad. Um. You know, you saw timing. You know, obviously this is a little uptick and competition for him going coming from the FCS level. But I don't think he had any problem with the timing, you know, in a setup and his delivery. The velocity's outstanding. His

placement was generally good. Uh. He had a few one hoppers, a few that you know, I know he wanted back, but for the most part, I mean it was it was on full display all the tools that he has. And you know it's easy to see why. You know, it's you know, the Cowboys are coaching this team. They're looking at these quarterbacks like their kids. You have to love them equally, but they were favoring yea. Yeah, they're trying to figure out. They're trying to figure out quickly.

How dave your your thoughts on him, I know you were watching him as well. The big deal with him is and you know, not that lies not the right word, but you hear about these guys and colleges pump their guys up. I mean that's why they do the way in so you can get the numbers right and everything. You know, guy a six three guys actually six one and a five eleven guys actually you know, five ten or whatever. So I was impressed it. I mean, he met the measurables that they put up there for him.

I mean, he fits the bill and the arm strength too. I mean again, you can see all this stuff on tape, but you're down on the field looking at this stuff. And he I mean, he had a couple of uh you know, running in with the full team, and we've talked before about how he can hit those throws on the move, on the move right, and he was doing that out there and you know, not what's the word, not anything that I took me by surprise, But I think it counts for something when you see that with

your own eyes. One thing that you know as a young scout coming up, that I was taught by NFL scouts was when you evaluate quarterbacks, you have to see them in person. They're just something different. When the ball comes off his hand, uh, you know, just the way he acclimates himself in the setting. It just is just a little different for quarterbacks. And so you know, I had a chance to see him in the FCS title game. Is the same thing here. The ball definitely pops off

his hand. Let me ask you this, did he try and do a little too much today? Did? I mean? And I this is old man scouts sitting in the you know, here's young Scouts an old man Scouts sitting in the press box thinking, you know, I'm actually sitting with Ozzie Newsom there. I'm not trying to but I did. But that's my guy. Ozzie and I sit together and we do it every year and it's it's great. It's a great experience for me name dropping more and more as yeah, gole, this is my guy. Is lsu got

you hate Alabama guys? That I said, would mister Hellman for a little bit? Yeah, fact, like the conversation. The conversation that we had was maybe he tried to do a little too much today, maybe a little too hyped up, you know, maybe tried to make a couple of throws, probably shouldn't have made, talked about the one hop. Maybe try a little too hard, maybe, you know, just a

little bit over anxious in how he practiced today. I kind of got the sense that he was like trying to be the dude, you know, like he was trying to embrace the spotlight that's on him, which I kind of I appreciate that. I think that's the right way to play it, just and like not in a bad way, but he was it seemed like he was being the vocal guy he was. I mean, he was the center point of all the quarterbacks as far as I'm concerned, and I felt like he kind of carried himself that way.

But I don't think that's a bad thing. No, No, and especially when you know Cody Kessler's checking down every place. But we've seen Cody Kessler. We've seen that. I believe it was a Stanford game. They've got two minutes left, need ten points or at four play and he checking in and check him and he runs. Yeah, and he runs the clock completely out before the completion percentage can

be a little deceiving something, right. I just felt like though that did he maybe tried, maybe was a little too hyped up today maybe, So I think that's fair, and I have to take that over like just the just the vanilla, the vanilla guy that's not really doing over much. It's an exhibition game. Go compete, that's what you know. Some quarterbacks Connor Cook didn't even want to compete here. Yeah, and here did you say Connor Cook didn't want to compete? Right, didn't want to compete here.

But here's Carson Wentz coming in wanting to compete, and he helped himself. There's no question about it. We were over on the uh you know, on the south side. They were over in fair Hope and had an opportunity, and I have to admit it was like an hour and twenty minutes. I felt like they stretched forever and then finally you got to see some some work over there. Did uh? Did let's get some of their quarterbacks? U pri set Alan, any Prescott, anybody, you know, anybody Dane

light you up over there? Not really, you know, looking at the quarterbacks, I don't think we really got a chance to see them. Uh, you know, show what they have. You know, I think all all four looked solid. You know, they looked looked okay. But for the most part, and honestly, at the south practice, I was focusing on the offensive line and the defensive line. Yeah, and you know, watching Noah Spence about to you know, kill somebody out there. He was talking about hyped up. Yeah, Noah Spence was

hyped up. He was whether it was John Thas, Yeah, theis is now now. I wrote this earlier today that in Guys to Watch, I was hoping that somebody would step up and play hard against the against uh Spence Spence and because he he there's I didn't feel like there was a tackle on either side either that could block him one on one. Agree, and thus in there and it's like they're I'm not gonna call it th drill, kind of a fit drill where they come off, they fit and they try, you know, we'll see who's the

strongest and who. It was a couple of times after the snap where or after the play where thas It had enough of him, you know, I blocked, you pushed him, you know, and then okay, now we got sep you separate him, And it just kind of came a common theme throughout the day. I haven't seen Thea's play at Georgia. Can you talk about I mean, the makeup of Yeah, he's he's a competitor and there's no question about it.

But then they moved Spence to the other side, rolling up against Vidal, Alexander the other guys, and it was more than the same over there. Yeah, I mean it, Spence was just uh, he looked like a volcano ready to erupt. I mean, he was. And that's not a bad thing. We talked about, you know, Carson Wentz going out and competing. It was Spence. I mean, he was wound up so tight that you know he was picking

fights with everyone. But that's all right. You want a competitor, you want a guy that even it's the first practice, you know, it's I love to see when guys are told to kind of tone it down a little. Yeah. It's like the Jaxonville coaches were like, okay, and then they let him keep going and okay, and then they break it up a little bit. Hey, calm down, but yeah, calm down, but okay, let's see you do it again. Exactly. I'm gonna talk about another guy over that North seen

the South practice got my attention. It's it was Reggie Raglan. Pay you're gonna say that, yeah? And and Reggie Raglan though playing as an outside linebacker yeah, and which I think his choice too, Yeah, which I think was a smart, smart play on his part. And I'll tell you why. Because Reggie Raglan he was unblockable. Is that is that a word? Did I just make up a word? Football? Because if you try and type it, you laugh at me right time When when I type unblockable, you go,

what are you doing? Microsoft? Word doesn't think measurable as a word. Yeah, it doesn't need Okay, well, let me tell you this. He was unblockable when they did the one on one stuff with the running backs and having to deal with with Reggie Raglan rushing. He it was not the same Okay, we're gonna run over your type move.

He had pass rushings and you could tell you could tell, oh, with with what they do with him at Alabama putting his hand on the ground and I the questions I had last week on the Draft show was, Hey, I need to see Reggie Raggling stand up and cover somebody cover. That's his weak spot. Yeah, because you never see him. But it's more improven than weakness. You know, we don't. We just don't know how well he could. Yeah, it's

a bad phrasing. Well he he was. They didn't block him, so you guy, Yeah, well no, he's my guy because I'm just sitting there going, you know, and he looks and he just looks the part you talk about, you know, loody, the lower body sickness, there's you just you watch him. His uniform is always dirty. You know, he's always in the middle of things. It's somebody is gonna get I think a great football player. I don't think it's gonna

be a Dallas cowboy. May maybe I'm wrong, maybe they drag back whatever I mean, but yeah, but it is. But but I'll tell you what though, if you just want to talk about football players, Reggie Raggling is that guy, and I think he did himself. Why not play on the outside there? It's maybe some three four team. I don't know if he has the length. I don't know if he has the length to be a three to four outside linebacker. Well, it's funny, and I know he plays Mike in a four to three in Dallas, right,

I mean, I'm well, I'm very familiar with Rolando mclin. Right. I got to talk to Reggie a little bit after the way in today and like he doesn't I mean not, he's an impressive athlete, but like it's not the same as Rolando mclin Like you're talking about two different guys. Like, I mean, what what's he at Dane? Is he like six one six two? Reggie Ragland wighed in at six one two y two fifty nine. Rolando mcclain' is like six six, Like he's a gigantic users. Yeah, it's it,

but it's impressive. I mean, so you're not talking you're probably not talking about the same caliber of athlete, but he's every bit as productive, which is impressive on his part. He thoughts about Sean Oakman and what anyway, and I was very big, yeah, like very sixty seven, two sixty seven, leaner than I thought. I mean, because he weighed in at six seven and a half but only two win or sixty nine pounds. Yeah, I have a very lean

muscled um. And during crowd share it for him, but then he does some things in practice where it kind of reverts back to his old Yeah, Sean Oakman, dude, you're like, come on, dude. He needs to recognize the opportunity that he has with this pro coaching. I mean, he has played some left defensive end here, right, he has NFL coaches, you know, telling him what to do, instructing him. So for Sean Oakman, it's important to see that progression from day one to day two to day three. Today,

he was constantly putting his head down. Coaches kept telling him, you know, raise your eye level, get your head up. He showed the ability to use that length at times, and that's what he needs to expand upon. You know, he has those long arms, use them, lockout, control the point of attack. We'll see if Oakman can continue to get better throughout the week. You know, I was already I'd already headed over to the North practice. And may I think you stay behind some talk about the Spencer

Drago right from Baylor. Yeah, and and and I'm sorry and some of his work anything hop out. I mean I was following some people on Twitter as I was driving over and all that, and I didn't get to see any the extra I'm very safe. Well, no, I was. I was in the back seat. I'm driving this daisy, you know, one of those situations you're not driving old man scout. But yeah, but anything Stan, I mean, I know people were talking about it like he was throwing

people around and stuff like that. Did you get that filling it along. He's strange because you look at him and he looks like a guard, just as I thought it was a guard, right. Yeah, And but there are some stamps and he has short of arms. I mean, well thirty two and I think three quarters, so I mean ideally you want thirty three. Uh so you know you were kind of thinking guard. But he held his own for the most part, and once he got his

hands on you, I mean he showed power. Uh you know, he showed the ability to win at the point of attack. And so for drain Goo, I thought he did a nice job. He's playing primarily at right tackle today. Yeah, that's what I thought. It was a guard. Yeah, no, I diagree. You're an LSU guy. I am as myself. I'm gonna say Jalen Mills was playing a little bit of corner Desoto's own instead of playing some safety. I think that's a good spot for him. He doesn't he's

kind of a selective tackler. Yeah, I agree with that. And but you know when you watch him play when he was working with Cash, you could really tell this on the drills when they would take him, they would peddle him and they would spin him. One was clearly finishing faster than the other one. And that's gonna be Cashes. You know, that's gonna be his We're talking about Cash, Jeremy Cash from Duke and you could watch him and he's gonna make every single tackle play down and be

that guy. He's not a back player. But Mills and your thoughts about him from LSU. I think that maybe corner might be a spot for him. I could see that, and I mean, I feel like that's a tough transition if you haven't played it. But I like his athleticism more than I like his physicality. That's fair point right there. That's just my again, that's my impression from watching LSU football, not scouting the guy. He looks. It looks like a corner ray six foot one ninety four. Yea long. He's long.

But he watched him at LSU play some out of the slot too. When teams try and spread him out, they go with the two safeties and they bring him in and let him just play. You know, he's kind of a Diamon Nicol monster. Guy on the South that really stood up to me was Jonathan Williams. Obviously, we oh good, somebody actually asked about him. He's he's been the forgotten prospect. You know. He over the summer, he was the top senior running back prospect, missed all this

past year with a foot injury. We got a chance to see him today. He's limited this week, so we won't get to see him full go. But you know, I was standing next to a lot of the packers. Guys, he's dropping names now, No, that's they really wanted to find out about Jonathan Williams. They're not alone. A lot of team they didn't want to find out about Jonathan Williams. Yeah, they do, and that two fourteen tape is what you

gotta go to on Jonathan Williams exactly. So anyway, all right, well, our executive producer k Garrison tells me I have to take a break and we could just continue on. I'll tell you what we're gonna do. Guys, when we get back, we're gonna answer some Twitter question questions and see what you have. So if you're listening to us, just keep firing amat us. Well we've gotten a decent amount. Yeah, we will do our very best answer. So we will. We will be right back from Mobile, Alabama. That rolls

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here on the Draft Show. Brian broad Us, Dane Burglar, David Hellman, executive producer Kent Garrison, and uh and you out there as well. Thank you so much for joining us. We're here at Mobile, Alabama just to give you a programming reminder. We are going to do the show again. We do with the show tonight, we'll do one again on Wednesday, and we will do one on Thursday. We will not have a show on Friday like we normally do. When we get back to Valley Ranch a week from Friday.

We will get back into our normal routine, but we will have a show just for you to know tonight, Wednesday night and Thursday night. We're gonna let Dan go home, Dave Kent and I gonna stay and cover this game on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Have all the game notes, twelve thoughts, all those things that can help you understand how this uh Senior Bowl win off. So I want to get into some Twitter questions here, Dave, you said, we get some people that are chiming in, and so

I will pass the baton. I don't know if we have the sounder for Twitter on the twenty Twitter Twitter. All right, there, we got that works, So Dave go ahead. Uh here's a good one. That's I mean, we got plenty on once questions, but we'll start with one. Curtis Rivera wants to know we talked a little bit Jalen Mills and maybe some other guys, any defensive backstand out on the first Gay Day. He's a Boise fan, so he's especially curious about Darry and Thompson. Yeah, but DB's

in general. Tavon Young Temple corner. Sure, I had a nice day, fluid. I saw some sticky coverage from him, so I thought he helped himself. Um it really Phil Savage loves the small school corner does and so every year we see a lot of these small school corners here, and I thought we saw for a couple of them. Uh, you know, the jumping competition was was pretty big for some of them, and so, um, you know, we'll have to see how that goes throughout the week of practice.

Talking about DeAndre Hall, the corner from Northern Iowa, who has humongous arms like thirty four and three quarters in charms, which is, you know, bigger than offensive tackles, Harlan Miller the Southeast Louisiana kid, and h Bradberry the Samford corners. So I think we want to see these smaller school corners see how they progressed throughout the week as they you know, face this competition and get acclimated. Did candidate

do anything for you? He had a few nice plays, had a few you know, struggled a few other plays. I mean it was a mixed bag from him. Yeah. See the thing about him and I love the length I've talked about this. He's the Virginia corner. The very first play he drives on the ball and a plant and knocked it down. Timing long strides, it was just bam and you're like, oh, here he goes. And then the next play they take him on a nine route and it's Struggles City. So he is not going to

be fast. He has range as far as his range, as far as his build. If anything's in front him, anything he can drive on. I think he's gonna be outstanding. But we saw a double move against Notre Dame that ended up as a touchdown. And today they ran the UCLA kid Peyton ran a nine route on him and

caught a touchdown. So yeah, there's some there's some things, but I agree with you about I was sometimes these the small school corners, you know, they it's gonna take him a day or so to feel more comfortable, and tonight they'll get some coach and they'll go through the tape. Coaches will point out, hey, you need to think about your technique. Gonna tell you to do this, this is what you need to do. So anyway, yeah, I agree

with you on your corners. There. Dave Jake wants to know, and I guess I mean, we'll throw out Braxton Miller for the purposes of this mid round wide receivers who might have impressed you today And I we've talked a guy that I noticed was Sharp, who we've talked about on here before. But yeah, Mass Yeah, and by the way, his hands get bigger hands all of a sudden, by the combine, they're gonna be nine and a half, I hope. So last week of the Shrine game, they were seven

and three quarters. Today they were eight. Ye, get bigger hands him. Yeah, that's we're all about. I'll tell you what though, you're right, Uh, we've the kid from Peyton from you still. And what they did on the North team is they put him in the slot some I mean they did. They moved in both sides vertical routes we talked about. He had some incut routes that he was able to run, but played him out of the slot.

I thought that showed a lot though, the fact that they moved him around, you know in this scheme and the Cowboys scheme that you can Hey, he showed he could play on that left side, right side, but he could also play in the slot. I thought he had some good catches, so I tracked the ball pretty well when I was talking about with candidate on that vertical route where he made the touchdown, made the diving catch there. So yeah, you know, I haven't seen him. I haven't

studied him. I don't know on your board where you know, even if he's on your radar as far as that type of a guy anything like, he's a late rounder for me. Um And it's it's hard not to include Braxton in this conversation because he was, clear cut, clear cut the top wide receiver. I only left him out because we've dedicated so much time to him. Exactly. Honestly, I think I think he could be in the first

or second round pick. Maybe. Oh, Dane's got him right though, folks, Dane told you last week on the Draft Show he's not getting out the top sixties exactly. If Philip Dorset can go in the first round last year, I don't see why Braxton Miller cans. I'm not ruling out first round. We'll have to see how, you know, the process goes. But Leonte Carew, the Rutgers player receiver, I like him, you know, he's I think he's one of the probably a borderline top five senior receiver in this class. I

see a smaller golden Tate. Didn't have a great day to day. Too many drop passes, uh, you know a few from Wins that were on target, right. I think that's what kind of hurt wins a little bit times when you want to say, whoa wait a minute, you got to catch that ball for him? Absolutely, so Carew I want to see. I need to see bigger things from him moving forward. But I do think you know, Burbridge and Carew I think are in that mix, you know, top five senior wide receivers kind of you know on

the cusp there. Yeah, I was kind of hoping that Sharp. You know, I was hoping that he would stay. The film from you, Mass I think is very good and that is against Matt competition. Well there's sometimes, but they played Temple right and you know what, he makes some play So I give the man due but absolutely, but you're right, yeah, I will again, let's see what tomorrow brings, maybe even Thursday for somebody to say, and let's see

what the game does as well. And with Taja Sharp, it goes back to last week for me seeing him at the East West Shrine game. He wasn't the most impressive. I mean the Temple wide receiver impressed me more a few other guys. Sou Definitely for Taja Sharp. He's got this great opportunity to be in front of scouts again. You know, let's see him make the most of it. Dave, I'll say this one thing, and nobody on the South team.

I'm not using correct English there, I'm sure, but I was not impressed with anybody on the South team when it came to receivers. I thought they were all smallish. It seems like we have the better draw with the receivers. Yeah, but they had the better defensive lineman. This this is gonna be if you could get the ball out, hey, Carson, have fun. Yeah, exactly. We'll see how tough Carson Wentz really is in this football. The South team does have

Sterling Shepherd Oklahoma is a good receiver. But no love for jay Lee. Huh. A bunch of people in Waco don't like you right now? No, jay Lee, you know for a guy that's not really I mean, Corey Coleman gets all the love a lot of receivers, but jay Lee. Actually I thought he did a nice job. He saw, you know, quick release off the line, h long arms. I thought he did okay today definitely, you know, caught my attention where I want to see more the rest

of the week. See that just I need to pay better attention because I felt didn't feel like though watching the receivers and and my guy, Jerry Sullivan's coach at Jackson, he coaches them up, and I didn't see when you're old, you can do that. It's fair. Yeah, all right, you're I don't want to. I don't want to run out of time on the segment, and I want to I want I want to get to this because I mean,

this is the guy. Um. So you guys have both covered plenty of these Brian, you especially have been around for a long time. Like, what do you make of this? Carson Wentz hype that the way? I mean, you know, a month and a half ago, the average football fan had never heard of this guy, and now we're talking about him top ten, top five. Uh somebo Gary was talking, you know, is he over hyped or is he for real? Uh? Michael wants to know. I mean, do you see that

sustaining itself? I mean, obviously that depends on his performance and things like that, but what do you make of this compared to the other years and other quarterbacks. I mean, it's too early for this hype to come. You know, you want to slowly build and gain that momentum as a process goes along. We're still three months from the draft and Carson Wentz we're being talking about him as a possible, ready and getting ready for all the whole exactly.

This thing is the balloon with everybody with an ice pick in their hand, right yeah, just ready to pop that. So it's not like he came out of nowhere. I mean, we've been talking about him and it's he's such an interesting prospect because he missed a second half of the year with a wrist in He's from an FCS school, so you know, it's not like he you know, went to Alabama or an SEC school or a top program and all of a sudden, you know, we're just catching

up to how good he is. You know, he's always been on the radar, but now you know, seeing him live at the FCS Championship game that you know, to me, I had him in that early second round. I thought the Cowboys might have a chance for him that early second seeing him live that secured first round I thought, okay, this this gets the first round pick. He's not falling out of the top thirty two. But you don't see

him as a top four player. No, But when you're talking about these quarterbacks, all bets are off because you know, on my board, he's what twelfth, But you know, when if you need a quarterback, it's not like you're gonna wait until the twelfth pick to take him. I mean,

are there better players in front of him? Yes, there are, but quarters and quarterback is king and in reality, quarterbacks you can't put on your board because or you know, your your overall board, because they just carry different value than other positions. Would you be terrified if you had to pick him? No, I mean at four? Yeah? Terrified? No? I mean, sure, I'm worried a little bit, but I'm not terrified. I mean, what we saw today, but you

have him as your second best quarterback, right, Yeah? But I still think he's a you know, a top He's twelve on my board, so obviously I think enough of him to put him in my top fifteen. So I think he's a darn good player. So I wouldn't be scared to take him that early. But you know, obviously, I think that there could be a better way to go,

very diplomatic. I liked it. No, I you know, I'm okay, you're talking to the guy that says, hey, if that tag is up there on the top of that board, if you determine that Carson wentz as you're one of your top four players on that board and his tags there, and you don't take him, that's on you. Oh, that's on you. I'm I'm worried about somebody forcing a pick here. Yeah, oh, how can you not be you know what, this is

a great thing. Maybe, And I'm not just talking about the Cowboys, right, I'm talking about I'm just talking about in general. But I I think they're better players than now. If you if you're asking me about Golf or Lynch, then I'm I'm I'm going a different direction. Yeah, you know, and I and I like Lynch better than anybody in this panel. We have anybody in this show. And he's your top quarterback, right, Yeah, he's my top guy. And there's other there are several in the NFL community who

agree with you. And that's the one thing about this draft class that people need to realize. There is no consensus on these quarterbacks, and that's what scares me. Some teams will like Golf, someone like Wentz, someone like Lynch. It reminds me of two years ago the twenty fourteen draft. Some really like Bordles, some really like Bridgewater. I mean there was oh yeah, Car, there wasn't that consensus number one guy. And that's fine. I don't think there needs

to be a census. But you know, you better, you know nail these quarterbacks and they're they're different because they different, they need different things. You look at Golf, I think he's a little more pro ready. With Wentz and Lynch, ideally you'd like to see them sit a little bit and in Dallas they'd be afforded that opportunity. Hopefully as

long as you know, Tony stays healthy. So it where these guys end up their fit the offense, whether or not they're pressed in action right away, goes a long way to determining, you know, they're how they end up their success. This hype train has too much steam right now, something yeah, something, Well eventually, what I'll happen is the media driving it all. And then but the media then

catches up with the scouts. Sure that's the one thing about the Draft show that we've tried to do is, you know, is investigate and educate, And that's the thing. Don't don't feel like that. You know, there's somebody laying the cold of this train and then eventually it's gonna be whoa, wait a minute, this thing is off the tracks. Yeah, And I'm not saying I think we all like the player, but I think we need to be a little bit

cautious about what we're getting into here. Dane laid it out perfect, and I know Blake Bortles is off to a pretty solid career for a third pick overall, but when there's no consensus like that, that's what scares me off of picking a quarterback in the top five. Like I want there to be a little more consensus than we have right now. And he mentioned Derek Carr, who's going to a Pro Bowl, was taking what thirty third overall,

second round. I feel a lot better about that. I feel a lot better about, you know, getting a guy at thirty four, and you know, you can't predict if it's going to work out that way, but that you know if they're if you're not, If there's not a sizeable contingent of people that are sold on this guy spending. Who's the guy you would take because you have Tony Romo, But again maybe for two years. Yeah, if if that, if that, and that doesn't. I don't think that matters

for me because I'm taking the best quarterback. Yeah, whoever I think is the best quarterback is gonna be my pick, regardless if he's gonna play next year or two years from I agree with that, But it's probably fair to say, like maybe Jared Goff or maybe Jared Goff is the better guy to start right away, and maybe Carson Wentz is the best fit for a guy that has to sit for a long term. Would you would you be shocked if if Cleveland took a WinCE at two? No,

absolutely not, because Cleveland he's a quarterback. And if you believe that Wentz is your guy, you know whom I would argue because he might be the top quarterback in this class. I mean, you know, we we obviously like him. I mean, and ye would it surprise you if three years from now, uh you know, he said to do a Pro Bowl. It wouldn't surprise me. I know exactly. And so that's why I wouldn't be surprised at all of Cleveland falls in love with him and takes him.

I two, same thing with Goff and really the same thing with Lynch. I mean, again, there's no consensus on these quarterbacks, and so for a team that needs a quarterback, it just depends on who they think is the top guy. And you know how early are they willing to take him. I'll tell you what, you couldn't drive and nail up my rear at four if you had to take him. That is a drop. I mean seriously, I would sit

there and I would you know, that's the one. Is that the one you're always talking about, the team in front of you takes him. Yeah, I mean you know you're just you're just singing, You're going, please please san Diego, please san Diego, let this cup pass. And then all of a sudden, did that dude? You're like going, Okay, but that's the whole about not window dressing your board. Sure, yeah, but absolutely, But I'll say it again, if if a quarterback tag is on the top of their board, when

their time comes, they need to take a quarterback. This is it's arbitrary and it doesn't mean anything. But I thought it was interesting. We were talking to Steven Jones tonight and somebody was asking about, you know, he's FCS, he's only started twenty three games and that scary you blah blah blah. Stephen said no. And the comparison that they that got brought up was Joe Flacco, which you know, if you're getting Joe Flacco, I think most people would

be pretty pleased with that one. I hadn't even I hadn't considered that, you know where right, let's just say, yeah, the FCS comparison, although you know, he did start at pit. He started a pit and transferred over. But yeah, the FCS. Uh, you know, a top twenty pick from the FCS, so you know, Wentz. Assuming he goes top twenty, it's not completely unheard of for an FCS quarterback to go that high at all. What Uh, that was a good one from from coach. That's a good question though, thank you.

Oh yeah, well, I mean and obviously, and we're gonna talk more about whence. I'm positive, Um wants to know coach, he said, coach, Yes, coach, I think coach Hudson, Oh, coach good? Yeah, Um, he wants to know about linebackers on this North team obviously, like Ragland is the guy, but he's not on the Cowboys team, right, So maybe some linebackers that have stood out to you, I know. Uh And I talked to one of the scouts today, Um Showberth Showbirth from Wisconsin, Joe Schobert. Yeah, ye Shobert.

Excuse me. He caught my eye once or twice. Um. And and considering, yeah, I think the linebacker talent is mostly on the other roster. My favorite guy is Facral from from That is your guy, yeah, week, Yeah, that's my favorite guy. When you talk about linebackers, I don't think he fits in surprise. He was two forty four today's two fifty little players. Yeah, he's leaner to Honestly, when I see Kyle Facroll, I want to make him a tight end receiver. He does. He looks like a

big receiver. He's an athlete and he can catch them though that you can't. Yeah, he can't. But those long strides also worry me a little bit because it, you know, it can hinder him in small spaces to you know, to break down and finish. Um. I'd love to see him a tight end because he's got the ball skills, but no, he is such a rangy player, such an athlete for that size. Uh, you know, we've seen him dropping coverage, we've seen him rush, We've seen him do it all at Utah State. And so do you think

he is he a primarily a three four player? Do you think you know he'd fit in the well, he'd be a Sam linebacker, and then you know he would be he would be a better Kyle Wilbur. It's it's disappointed, like I'm just I don't Wilber rushes, but he doesn't rush this well. I don't allow myself to get excited by tweeners because they fit so much better in in

three four schemes. You know, like this, this guy he could be a monster in a three to four, but I don't know what he's gonna And that's the problem because the Sam linebacker in the scheme is in the Cowboys scheme, is not the most important linebacker. And I can't imagine them ever spending. But if you figure out, well, hey, maybe this guy can rush, well even still, the guy can rush, even if he's a good rusher, and obviously if he's amazing, you find a way to make it work.

But even in that situation, it's probably only going to be in certain circumstances. You know, It's not like he's gonna be coming every down rusher from the same love the guy. I love him too, And there were guys last year that I liked that fit that same role. But I just think it's harder to squeeze those types of guys into this scheme as opposed to other ones. Another linebacker in the North squad that I like to Josh Perry, Yeah, its not bad. The Ohio State not bad.

The other Ohio State guy, Uh, good looking kid, physical, looks like a defensive endure. But he moves moving around out there, moves more like a safety. I mean he's he's rangy. Uh. You know, we saw him, you know, the change of direction, the redirection. He moves pretty well. And we've then on tape with his with his coverage ability. So I think Josh Perry can be a three down linebacker and that's why he's in my top sixty. I think he's a second round player. But if he's there,

it'say early third round. I mean, that'd be a heck of a pick. That would be a heck of a pick. David got anything else over there? Uh? Yeah. A couple of people have asked, and just for the record, Cowboys fans, his name is Nick Martin. He's not Zack Martin's brother. They calling him Zach. He's gotting. Oh, they're asking, how's Zach Martin's brother doing. He's got his own name. His name is Nick. But several people have been curious about what's he looked like? What can you expect from him?

How's he doing? You know it to me, he doesn't have the strength of Zach right, he doesn't have that ability to get in and push and make things happen. He's plays on his feet. He's a getting away guy. He can reach guys. Now, the question I have for you and you too, Dave Hilm, and I'll bring you in on this. Oh. I appreciate that because of because of what to deal is with McKenzie, Bernardo sets an

inner free agency. Would you would you consider because because Nick Martin is a center, would you consider drafting a Nick Martin? Keeping Mit your primary as your backup center, but teaching to play guard? Well? And he played guard last year or yeah, last year two years ago? He played guards play and he's listed at guard on the ross, but we've seen him on center in this tape. In practice today he only played center, But no, I think he can play guard at the next level. I love

the way he's even just similar to his brother. He always able to stay square. It's so important for offensive lineman stay square to your target. But you're right, he's not as not as physically gifted as Zach, but he's technically sound. I mean, he's the character, it's it's all there. Similar as his brother, he's just not quite as physically

gifted and sound. Yeah, third round. If it's the third round, I'm on board because I was gonna say, I'm not trying to spend too high of a resource on a guy that you're drafting to be a flexible backup basically, I mean, but if something yeah, but you know, but he could he could be that guy displacing your all pro guard and you're all pro center. Or is he displacing your freak show. No, no, No, he's tough guard. Yeah. Probably,

Third is probably too rich to spending. You're talking about spending a top seventy pick on a guy that you don't really expect to take. It's selling me it's telling me wanted to draft a Gavin Escobar, right, you could, well you could also. Um, I mean, I'm just trying to I'm trying to help looking into the future. Yeah, Travis Fredericks only got two years left on his deal. That's what I was thinking of right there. What if

they don't This is for a whole another day. Yeah, I know we're getting into we get a whole another day. But but if but if they don't want to pay Travis Frederick. Sure, yeah, all of a sudden, it's like you right, you walk. He's a plug in, plug and play. Here we go. He's been in, he's been with you now for two years. What is Jason Garrett Love position flex? Right? So if you're telling me I can get a guy who can do both, well, yeah, I'm all about it.

So it's would be worth the third round pick. And maybe that scares me. Yeah, he's a little too early. I mean we're still talking, you know, so far in the future. I think between the duo one or you between all right, we're getting away from draft, but between the duo of Bernardo and Leary, I think one of them is here in twenty sixteen, and then either you either have Bernardo or Zach Martin can back up fun anything else? Whatever? Um, do I have anything else? No?

I don't. That's it. Hang on. Let me said our last break and come back and wrap it up there. Okay, all right, question, yeah, all right, we'll we'll take a break here again. You're you got the draft show. We're live here in Mobile, Alabama. We're covering the Senior Bowl and we will be back in just a moment. Geico asks which is easier playing football or saving hundreds of

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By the way, Kent Garrison, our executive producer, did a fine job of putting all this together to get us on to where we can broadcast, as we said, tonight and then Tomorrow night and then Thursday night, and then we're gonna let Dane Burglar go home and Dave and Kent and I are going to stay and watch the game and cover it for Dallas Cowboys dot Com And before we know it, we'll be at the combine doing this. So Oliver again, Yeah, how about that? Wait? How long?

How long before the combine another month February twenty well less than a month watching some players, there we go. But yeah, but thanks to Kent for putting all this together, and thank you out there for all your questions, your Twitter questions. Sorry we can't take any calls tonight. We just don't have the capability. But we're just trying to get things the best we can here. So, um, Dave, before I went to break as, I thought, maybe is there any other question? I just I don't want to

anybody hanging out there on some questions. I got a couple more. Um, John wants to know and he's kind of becoming one of our darling guys, so like, I don't want to talk about him too much, but at the same time we need to talk about him. But John or what's that John? Or well we like John too, We like all our listeners. But um, Austin Johnson he all and well, there we go. Penn State guys in general. Karl Nassas obviously part of that, but boy he played

better today too, and nice day to day. What has Brian brought us spent scouting? My god, you didn't like NASA when you saw him, not initially? No, No, I didn't, and you know, I thought it was a try hard guy and he is that. Yeah, he just trash around and oh he gets blind and you know, and then you watch him played Decker and Decker knocks him in

the next week and I'm like, okay. And then today he plays left in nice pass rush, plays right in nice pass rush and constantly just you know, another nice player. So interesting because he didn't start a single game in his career until this season, not even high school. He didn't start, wow, And so that's amazing. He had so

much to learn. He's a late bloomer. He showed up at like, you know, two hundred pounds when he went to Penn State, a walk on, and so just a late bloomer really coming into his own as a player. And I think we've we've seen that. But you know, back to Austin Johnson. I thought he had a nice practice today. Uh. He just he knows how to find the ball. He's instinctive on the line. Yeah, and he

finds the ball and he goes and gets it. He's not the most rangy player, but the short area quickness, the ball wearing this uh, and the power is there. I mean, this guy's gonna make uh some team very happy. He has a one technique six h four three three twenty three. He carries it well, yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't look bad. Me and old dude. Yeah, and you walk behind him, it's like you walk, you kept to kind of look around him. He's that kind of a white guy. And this is a player who he thought

he'd be playing basketball. Yeah, that's that's that's where his pro career was gonna go. And so you know he's an athlete. Um, but at the same time, he does carry this weight really well. It's not the field, oh yeah. And he finds the ball. It's not just some of these guys can get up the field, but they don't know where they're going. This guy has a compass and it's pointed to the ball at all times. A very

good player. Austin Johnson. The big question for the Cowboys is will he last to that early second round or not. That's something we'll be asking see the next few months. Yeah, that's the that's the question. I mean, And I look at there's there's several one techniques in this track. It's it's crazy, and nobody likes one. These guys especially don't like one doesn't like well, it likes Nick Hayden, he doesn't like any other one. Drawn Reid had a nice

day to day the Alabama defensive tackle. I'm just imagining Brian sitting in that studio in three or four months and you know, and the Panthers are on the clock, and the Broncos, who else the you know, the pack twenty seven, you know, twenty five through twenty nine. Brian's just got his pen and he's just going, come on, come on, Ted Thompson, don't do it. That's and you want to hear me, You want to hear me curse

on the air. Yeah, And somebody takes you just throw your pen and then that's what I just I just chucked my I pull a tom cough And they picked the phone up and just throw it against the wall. He did that one time. Who got taken? Who was the guy? It was? Uh? Oh, it happened to be Uh how about this? It was Curtis Enis running back and he ended up taking Fred Taylor. That's he throws the phone against the wall. Curtis Enis and then and then all of a sudden he has to take Fred Taylor.

And it's like that in itself is like the microcosmim of the draft, Like you're you're so mad that you lose out on a bust that you throw a phone and you draft and you don't know pro bowler, Yeah, Jacksonville, Jaguar Hall of Fame, nothing else there um because if Eddie Eddie wants to know, Uh, you guys talked about Spence kind of setting the church best pass rusher in the draft. Was there anybody like that? He said, defensively, but was there anybody like that for the North in

the second practice today? Just kind of somebody that you were like, this guy's not playing around, and well that was our that was our guy. Nasa Yeah, I mean he wasn't playing around. He was he was rushing the passer and you're like, going, that's what he is. Hey, By the way, our Stanford tackle is it Murphy? Murphy had a really day and you start and you figure

Stanford would have some guys that could. It's always funny with these Stanford guys because you watch them on tape and they're tough and they're rugged, and then they come here and you know, you take them out of their element, and you know, Murphy had what a thirty two inch arms disappointing there, and then the practice didn't go as well as you would hope. So I had this whole tackle class. I still have hope for Spriggs. Indiana attack had a couple of nice reps did But besides Spriggs,

the rest of these offensive tackles, it's a mess. There isn't much there. So if you need an offensive tackle in this group, not much there. Okay, with h M throwing my boy Dylan in there, just he was out there popping people. I like that. I don't know how good he action he is now there, I don't know how good he actually is, but he was hidden. We'll let you. We'll get back to Valley Ranch. We'll watch him. We'll start watch him because I need to do him too. Okay,

we've go. We got a few more minutes to go before we have to wrap up our show for this evening. Looking forward to tomorrow, practice has been backed up. We're getting some weather that's coming through. Yeah, mobile tonight and then early tomorrow morning. So the North practice will lead us off at noon and then the South practice will be at two thirty, so it'll be thirty minutes between practices.

So just hang with us on Twitter and flurry. Yeah, it's gonna be an all day sucker, as they say, so, yeah, it should free up our morning to provide some content for exactly. So, Yeah, make sure you check out Dallas Cowboys dot com and then also check out Dane stuff on CBS Sports. Just going into tomorrow, some guys had some questionable days, some guys had some good days. A thought or two and maybe what we'll see tomorrow. Well, and with these All Star games, the most important thing

is just you want to see guys get better. And you know, you listen to what the coaches are saying to these players and how did these players react. Are they making the proper adjustments and you know, taking what the coaches are telling them and applying it to their game and showing that in practice. So, you know, Braxon Miller returning these punts, Carson Wentz, uh, you know, they spend a lot of time with Carson, you know, just talking to him about the offense and timing and different things.

And so you know, especially with these quarterbacks, especially with Wentz, want to see the improvement from day to day. Yeah, I think I think you're absolutely right that that I thought he was a little anxious today. I thought he was a little tried, a little too much. You know, I have feeling that Wade Wilson will get him in that meeting room tonight and say, okay, hey, just calm down a little bit, is what we're gonna do, and then away they'll go, Dave anything you got from your end, oh,

I mean, Wentz is the obvious one. And then you know, now that we're getting into full pads, he might see a little bit more football. I'm intrigued by. Yeah, I'm intrigued by Kenneth Dixon. Yeah, I thought he looked good today. Just do you like your either? I like that, So I want to see some more of him. Hopefully he gets to get in the mix and actually maybe break some tackles and do some stuff like that. So that'll

be fine. And then you know, me personally, I have a feeling the big dog Jerry Jones is going to talk to us tomorrow. So yeah, makes you check that out. Stephen Jones talk today, He's on up on the website and hopefully Ken I don't know if I'm speaking out of turn talking to you, maybe some Senior Bowl Live tomorrow. Maybe perhaps if there're some one on ones we could make. Yeah, if there's some one on one today, we'll definitely hit that. Yeah, we'll.

Jason Garrett said in post game press conference or post practice press conference that he understands how important one on ones are, So I guarantee in the full pads tomorrow we'll see some one on ones. We'll see some nine on seven. So hopefully I can get down on the field. Maybe I'll grab Dame Brugler if he's available or so it's competitive, yeah, yeah, and we'll we'll give you well, yeah, it'll be. And you know what we can do. We can show the whole scheme. We don't have to worry

about this scheme. We can show you some schemes. So all right, Well that'll do it for the Draft show tonight. Thanks everybody out there for hanging out with us. I appreciate it. We all appreciate you. We thank you for all of your Twitter messages and questions and all that that makes it all go. Here. For my buddies, David Hellman, for Dane Bruglon, Brian Brusson, also for Kent Garrison, our executive producer, thank you again and we will see you

probably again. We'll tweet out the time, but six thirty seems to be a time that works for everybody, so we'll be back Thursday night. So make sure you're checking out Dane's work on CBS Sports and then all our work on Dallas Cowboys dot com, and we'll see you tomorrow