Draft Show: LIVE @ 2019 NFL Combine - Day 3

So well, this is the perfect illustration of the NFL combine because you got about nineteen things pulling you in nineteen different directions, and Dane, Dane's out handling one thing and then another thing pops up. One minute you're trying to grab a quick bite, and the next minute, Jason Witten's back on the team. Exactly just that kind of week,

you know. That's what the that's the fun thing about the combine that that you have so many things that going on on, and it's what makes things so interesting about the combine. Were like all you can see is our backdrop here, but like we're three feet away from CBS Sports there's nineteen other teams doing podcasts the bench press. They're not doing it now, but during the course of the day they're doing the bench press about fifty feet away. About fifty feet further away than that is where they

do the interviews, and it's usually all happening, happening simultaneously. Yeah, you get it. It's hectic experience. It's a lot. It's actually a lot of fun. Best the way it's the way it's all set up, and we've we've talked about that is a bunch and but today we finally got to see some workout. It feel like it was a long wait this you know, you were talking about that earlier. You're talking about that at dinner one night, and I was kind of thinking, no, this is kind of what

we normally do. It feels like we've been here for a year and we just now got to see guys work out well. Today, Like David was talking about the we had the offensive linemen and then also the running backs, which is a unique combination because usually you're in a situation where, uh, you know, like back in the day, it was always just the offensive lineman, and now this is she goes shows you what the influence of TV.

Oh my gosh, has on the Combine because tomorrow you get wide receivers and quarterbacks on Saturday on exactly so anyway, but yeah, that's so we'll we'll get to that part of it though, But uh, I do want to focus in on and we welcome in Dane Brugler. Appreciate you

always well. But David and I were talking about though, uh, you know, the things, the layout, the way things are at the Combine, But we're talking about today being the first day that we actually physically got to see workouts, and and it's nice to have you on today as always because you were in the stadium right you got to the opportunity to go in and watch the offensive

lineman Um participate paid in drills go through. You know, I was here kind of manning the TV screen in front of me and kind of keeping all the numbers. But uh, you know, I'm I'm sure we can all get into what we saw today and your impressions. You know, you getting to see really the live look were as a group. Was it what you thought it was with all these offensive tackles, with these centers, you know, the

running backs? I mean, was it what you thought it was going to be today once you saw these guys live, Like most positions, some guys were exactly what you thought, others disappointing, others were maybe a little better. And you know, it's it's still beneficial when you get to see these guys live. Yeah, they just the way they move, you know, it's just a little different compared to the tape. And Andre Dillard and he was as advertised, he was moving

differently in the state offensive tackleing. Um just yeah, the pitter patter of the feet, the hips, the balance, really impressivement. I'm not just talking about forty yard dash. I'm talking the positional drills, pulling stuff, the mirror drills. The movements were really impressive. And if you tell me, you know, fast forward to the draft, you told me Andre Delos top ten, I wouldn't be shocked at all. Yeah, see I kind of had yeah, wow, hey, you're a left

tackle with those feet. I mean, we've been talking about him as one of the better tackles in this class the whole time, but that is that's some high praise. You know. I thought it was really kind of borderline for me of him being a first round player or you know, right in that you know, maybe that maybe the back end, maybe the front end. But I think now teams are going to look at him and the footwork. As you said, Dane matches how the tape is of him.

He's he plays on his feet, he's not on the ground, he's in control. He looks completely comfortable and anything they were asking him to do. And again, like Dane says, it's not about with the forty time with him, because the forty time was outstanding. But you know, I think you have to talk about him with the other tackles in this draft that the top tackles and drafting, like Dane says, a little rich for me. If he goes top ten. You said you wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I'm

not saying he will, but would be. But because there's you know, let me tell you what the the Taylor kid had a really nicer one Taylor. Yeah, and he's

not one hundred percent. Yeah, you know, he's still working with the hamstring, can't remember what the I see what what what's impressive about him and Williams from Alabama to me was when you look at them both that they you know, you talk about guys that play left handed stance and then when they asked him to switch and put the right hand on the ground and then try

and do drills and stuff, it was comfortable. It wasn't one of those things like, Okay, he looks he's clearly has to be a left tackle or he clearly has to be a right tackle. David Hellman. Yeah, which I mean, I'm thinking about it as a as a whole and talk about this offensive line class, especially the tackle class. Tackle is what I'm looking at. Is I feel like I'm interested to hear y'all talking so glowingly because I don't want to say it was weak, but I feel

like y'all weren't always this sould on these guys offensive tackles. Yeah, I think that's fair because I mean at the beginning of the process, like when you talk about the strongest position in this draft defensive line, and we didn't mention tackle as much. But I think it became pretty clear, like after you watched Jawan Taylor from Florida, who we

didn't necessarily know it was coming out as a junior. Yeah, you know, we knew I joined Williams, but you know, once you really fully understood Dillard was a top guy, you know, for little I mean to hear you and again, we've talked about Dillard plenty, and I would have said even before we got here, I would have said he's probably a first round pick. To hear you say top ten though, get like, my impression at least of this of this group is like, yeah, there's some good players here.

But I mean, you know, Laramy Tunsel was your top graded guy in an entire draft. Like not talking about that guy that kind of blows you away from the get at least until now. And that's fair. And it's just these tackles are going to be so different for everybody. If if if a team's told you that Diller was our top tackle, I don't know, that wouldn't surprise me. No, But another team might have him forth behind Taylor and Ford and Williams. You know, Yeah, it's gonna be different

for everybody. But um, you know, I don't think he's gonna be around for those like the Texans sitting at twenty three. I don't think he's gonna be around like we might have thought at the Senior Bowl. And you know, I give Diller to a lot of credit at the Senior Bowl you know, the first time he ever put his hand on the ground. Yeah, you know, like he's you know, and just in terms of your movement from that stance and everything, he's improved a lot just from

the end of the season. Yeah, I just you know, it's funny that you said that, because I felt like that we I felt like we had a handle on the tackles, you know, I felt like that we had talked about that there's gonna be well. I I kind of thought though, and again I wrote about this when we first got here, was that Taylor from Florida and Williams from Alabama. There were people telling me when I was asking questions about they were and then I did.

I did a spot with the Giants today, you know, and and their group, and thank you very much Giants for having me over there. It was really a lot of fun over there to work with them. But there they were there there. Everybody that they had interviewed was talking Taylor over Williams as well. So you know, maybe this is something that uh, again, we always talk about the draft scouts, you know, the media scouts and the

draft scouts. You know, I like to think that you're kind of dealing with scouts here, you know, dealing with scouts guys that have done this, so you know when the media scouts and then they kind of catch up with with really what's going on there. So okay, the tackles, uh, sinners shine today a little bit, right, and then Garrett Bradberry especially and I wrote about this today and my

right there. Yeah, impressive day for Garrett Bradberry. Yeah, the two most impressive guys I saw today were Dillard and Bradbury. Bradbury he started the week strong, thirty four reps on the bench over there, and then he finished strong the morning. Uh, really really impressive with his movement skills. Uh, just his hip action, his body control on the move. Just overall. He's a plug, especially for his zone teams. He's a

plug in play center. Um. You know, if if you're a zone team and the teens and you need a center, plug Garrett Bradbury and you have a starter for the foreseeable future and you're doing just fine at that position. And he comparisons to maybe like Kelsey l Philadelphia, that makes sense. I think that I think a lighter guy, lighter guy. But the initially if he's uncovered, he's like he's out there, he's on the edge, he's second level.

He can. I love watching you pantomime this stuff like this, ye Berry, that's a grabbed turn and you know, and that's that's Bradbury because yeah, he pinning pool or yeah, exactly, there you go, ceiling combination. He can do all that and uh, you know it's something that but the tape showed that too. It did. And then all of a sudden you chew up at the combine, Dave, and here's the guy actually doing that, you know, I mean, doing

all the things that Dane was talking about. I love the and I'm not saying I feel this way, but you know, the honestly tired cliche of like the underwear Olympics and yeah, like obviously like the tape is so much more important. But to I mean to y'all, to see him to be able to do this stuff and and have that lateral you know, I have the agility, ability, athleticism, um, and to see it in person, Yeah, I'm jealous that you got to go over there today. I'm glad. I'm

glad you did. It was helpful, Yeah, sure, but to see but to see that translate and not you know, be able to show off that athleticism outside of you know, the scheme of of of football. I think it's not as important as tape, but it is. It's worthwhile. It's part of the puzzle for our for our buddy Rob Phillips, who at the school at Texas A and M University

another center. You love this guy, Eric McCoy and see he and I when I wrote about him, I said, I don't I'm not convinced I'll ever make a Pro Bowl, but he's gonna be a rock solid starter for a long time. You know, just plug him in. He's good. You know, I don't know if he's Pro Bowl level, you know where he's gonna be that type of guy because he's not explosive, but he's quick and he's strong enough and he's gonna create stalemates and as a center,

as an offensive lineman, that's that's all you want. You could watch him play against Alabama and you know he's going up against Williams and guys like that inside, those big bugs, those big guys inside, and he's holding his own. I mean, he's not getting driven back, he's playing square. He's getting guys turned. Clemson, Clemson Clemson was another one. If you mean there's some quality film if you want to watch Eric McCoy from Texas. And and again the speed that the time for him, I think was in

the low four nines. I think I think he had the fastest time of all the offensive lineman today. But yeah, I first noticed him at the Senior Bowl and in Danes like, you haven't watched this kid, haven't. You haven't studied this guy. And I'm like, okay, I get it. I'm going to study. No, no, But but you know you're good. You're good in that way because you wanted me to study these We're gonna get me. You're gonna

get You're gonna running people look at Miles Sanders. Yet that's what my notes I said that, That's what I'm saying in my notes. That's a name we're gonna get talking about this. But you talk about him, You talk about the Mississippi State Elgin Egin Jenkin Jenkins, right, yeah, you talk about him. He guy you said you'd stand on the table for I know, I know, but there's you feel that way today after today? Oh you know what, he didn't run the forty. But I'll tell you what

though his tape. His tape is very similar to what you see with North Carolina State with the Texas A and M very similar. Different style, different style to play it, but the mobility is there. If you want to zone, if you're like running a heavy zone scheme, then Bradbury's your guy. If you want more a guy that's gonna play with power in line, you know, like that's to me,

that's what Jenkins does better. And I think with one thing that separates Jenkins from Bradbury as well as the versatility exactly where Jenkins, if you want him to kick out the guard, he'll probably do that. He played right tackle for a season. He could you do that. Bradbury's probably a center only. Yeah, you know, he's got shorter arms. He's you plug him in and he's gonna You said it, You got the guy nail. Jenkins has some position flex where he can help you out in a few different

spots if you're a toy guard center versatility. You know, if the Cowboys had to make a move at center because of something happened to Travis Frederick, this would be a draft that you could actually feel like, you know what, we could tag a guy here and we would be good. Can you just completely rule it out? I mean all signs, I think they really I think they really do like the kid that they brought in, uh, Redman, I think they really do like him a lot. I know that.

Joe Looney, No I know, but but no, no, you're making talking to me. You're you're giving me coach speak. Come on, no no, no, no, no no, no mean coach no no, no, I think they do. Like I think if if with Looney be like, Okay, first of all, all signs point toward Travis Frederick being fine. Oh, absolutely gonna choose to believe that. Uh it's something to keep an eye on. And Joe Looney's under contract. But like

you're sitting you're gushing. You've been gushing about four different centers for ten minutes, and you're like, ah, they like this guy they like No, no, no, I was just saying, no that they like just they liked a guy. What's wrong with that? Because you're you're always trying to get better, not just kind of Oh, we had this conversation about Jason Witten last night for thirty minutes. Didn't you want to do that again? No? I really don't. I really

don't absolutely do not. You don't want to do that at all. Okay, let me tell you what though. He was trying to get me to like Chris Lynstrom from Boston College, the top guard of the draft. See that's I don't see that. I don't see that. Why did it? Did today change your mind at all? Okay? I have to admit I wasn't as high on Chris Lynstrom from Boston College. I didn't see the athletic ability in his film they displayed in this workout. But but he showed

it today. For a guard, I wanted to see better movement and he was able to do that. Yeah, okay, did he train to do this? Did he say Okay, I'm kind of a stiff moving guard to all of a sudden now I mean he he, I admit it. I will always admit when I'm wrong, and you try to get me to say this. Now does it Does it make me think? Okay, go back and study him a little more? Does he need to be around up? Should I not bury him in the fourth round? Well, you probably did what four or five tapes on him?

I did, So there's other tapes. Maybe you go to look at those and see if it changes your mind at all. And yeah, you know, because no, I think you're absolutely right when you know. And I was talking to a scout about this Samia with my guy. You know, Samia is my top guy. I find not I thought he had a good day. Yeah from Oklahoma. Um, I didn't think so I know I And that's that's that's funny. But you know, like how like the forty yard dash, like one Scott told me, he like he doesn't care

anymore because it's all technique. It's all like that, it's all they trained for. I'm glad, I'm glad. Okay, that's I was gonna bring that up, Like how specialized the combine is now? Like if you are worth even the smallest day, there was a time that didn't know the drills that well, that's my point was the time ago? What do you sit like combine? You use the combine to like compliment the tape or educate yourself us and you might not see on tape, but like, okay, what's

look more athletic? Okay he did, but I got what what if? And I don't want to pick on Lenstrom, I'm just using him as an example, but like what if? So he knows that about himself, and he just goes and works on that and gets good at it so he can do these drills. Doesn't necessarily mean he's better as a player. It's not football. You're just learning how

to do these drills really well. I mean, is that concerning Well, I mean it's we can go year by year and point out look at the combine results and point out guys who tested well, who amounted in nothing, and you know whether or not you changed your grade based off the combine. You know, that's that's part of the learning process for for scouts out there. If you if you change John Ross's grade because he ran a four two two, then okay, same on you, right. Well, yeah,

and sometimes you have to learn the hard way. Yeah, but with these guys, especially often the lineman, I don't know, I feel like it's tougher to just learn something and then not apply it, you know, like I got in Chris Linstrum. I don't think he all of a sudden got more flexible, and but he's not gonna show on tape like I saw a little bit of that on tape, and you know, I hit the flexibility, hit flexibility, Yeah, I did, h I didn't see a stiff guy, I'll

put it that way. Yeah, I just kind of I was. I struggled with him really bad. And I want to say, you and I did not watch him together. No, yeah, And usually you and I will fight about players, you know, and and go back and forth. But I I just did not see a guy that was that that athletic. I mean, he clearly looked athletic. I mean it's a I said, here a guy used on pull but not effective. You know, has some pop, but jilia position block are

not able to extend on reach or cut off blocks. See, those are things that if you're not a very good athlete that you kind of but but here I saw a guy that actually he played low today when when they're asking him to pull and when they're asking him you know, doing the switch blocks and stuff, he actually came around the block. And I'm like going, oh, all right, where where was this when you were playing Miami in North Carolina state those people, right, you know, So I

don't know. I mean, that's that's one of those things where I need to go back and look at more on him and see exactly where he's at coming from this one. You got time and that's what the combine is, one big cross checking exercise. Yeah, you know, if something works out like you didn't expect and go back to the film and you figure out, Okay, was I right the first time, or maybe this guy is a little bit better than I expected. And we'll be doing that

with the receivers. We'll be doing that with every position. Devin's singletary coming in and not performing well is and I out now I want to get to that. And that's an eye opener. I want to get to the running backs. Yeah, I want to and I want to get to it. And you brought up Devin's singletary, and I will I will give the senator from Ohio the

floor on this one. I've called him Lashan McCoy, you know, and that's high praise talking about a Pro Bowl running back who you know, one of the few running backs who's had a type of career that he has at around two hundred pounds. And that's what Devin Singletary is. He's not a big bruiser, uh, you know, talking about creating yards within the middle of the field. You know he can do that, just it's not going to be his m O. And what makes him a special running back.

He came in he should be the type of guy that tests well, especially only two hundred pounds and the forty was in the four sixes the three cone, which is my favorite drill. I believe in the three cone every single position. If you're a stiff athlete, you cannot escape to three cone. He had a poor time. It was like seven three four or something like that. Not good for a running back. I want you to be around seven, if not below, and seven three four is is not a good time for him, especially for a

guy who makes guys miss consistently. You know, he had the most forced, the most broken tackles in college football last year. So you know, I don't know. I did you see something similar stuff? Or this is this is I'm glad you said this because this is what I said in my notes tonight on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Please read this. It would make my boss is very happy. The best example from a running back workout of just watch the tape is Devin Singletary from a Florida Atlantic.

Singletary didn't run as well as he wanted to at four sixty six four six nine, But don't let that disappoint you if you're a fan of the player, because I promise you Singletary will run much faster at his pro day. We should all go down to Boca Raton and time him. And I loved this. I love this

part from your note. And this is my this is my one going to run faster because they're gonna cheat, Yeah, I said, I said, I promise that Singletary will run faster at his pro day because there'll be a scout like me there that will time him at thirty eight yards instead of forty because you like him, because I like him. Ye see, this is the type of guy. This guy's a good player. He'll survive a poor combine.

I think so. I think, I think when we all when I think people will go down there, y'all like him as much as you say you do. I wouldn't second round like him. I wouldn't let that turn me off. It's tough because watch the film. That's that he's trying to tell you to watch the film. I'm listening. I'm yelling at you because I can't yell at the guy

from the Redskins. What what Dave said yesterday about what you mentioned this yesterday about his level of comp Yeah, and that's something that we'll be talked about it a lot more now about. Okay, yeah, he had all these broken tackles, but he did it, you know, against subpark competition against you know, he did do in the SEC. That worries me. He doesn't have to be the SEC.

But like a conference with more right times like this kind of amplify those concerns, like maybe I should have been paying more attention to the you know who you know, the broken tackles, who was trying to tackle him. Um, So we're gonna hear more about that level of competition

with Devin Singleton. I'm gonna focus on some other running backs here on my board, I have Travion Williams Texas A and m Darrell Henderson from Memphis and Day at Montgomery all bunched together third round, all in the third round. Sounds about right, Okay, I thought all three of them, and and Henderson I didn't see working out. Did he

run and not? I mean, were you weren't in the stadium at the time I left because I never saw him catch a pass or anything in these drills and me and I was I was watching very closely, but I did see Williams and I did see Montgomery. But you know what, though, I'm gonna keep them all there. I'm gonna keep all those guys. I think Williams, though, is a hell of a football player. Though he's another guy a three cone. He's one of the worst three cones,

which is surprising him. But yeah, and you look at a guy that just will and if they hand him the ball, he's all over the play, okay, which so I trust the hell out of y'all. I'm dubious about him. You guys talked about the last five seven, two hundred pounds playing in the American I don't you could tell me whatever Trevian Williams did, And I don't care because I watched him ball out in the sea, watched him kill our our school, killed our school, killed a lot

of school. Yeah, he's if you can do that in that conference. Sorry if I sound like a homer, I don't care. It means a lot to me, so way more willing to forgive bad three cones forties. Let me ask you this then that, And that's kind of what I was talking about. Yeah, you know, like we're Singleton drop, then does he drop? Maybe for some teams maybe, well, teams are gonna be he's not walking on water. I mean that's only one thing I learned to Green Bay.

If you're five seven, you better walk on water. Forty times. I didn't really care about like if he you know, if he runs a four or five six or four to six six, I honestly don't care. So if he there's four six six when they go to Boca Ratan, I don't care. But but but the three cone that bothers me because he's a guy changing direction quick, this short area burst. He should hit those numbers and he didn't.

So you have totally sold me on that over the years, by the way, like just in the years, we watch the defensive backs and those guys doing that shuttle watch Thoseth. I watched those drills more than anything. Like the forties are fun, but I don't care about the forties. Yeah, there's so many only so many times you see a guy actually run forty yards straight in a football game, which we see Medcalf and those guys running the shuttles tomorrow.

That'll that will tell you about these I mean these kids, I mean kids were throwing up weights. Metcalf is throwing two twenty five around like it's nothing. Yeah, unbelievable, But yeah, I mean, okay, what's what's he gonna do in the three cone? Like? Can you actually move with all that that's gonna be? That death looks like a giant slice of pizza. The giant slice of pizza. He's probably never had a piece of pizza in his line? Am I right? Though?

About Williams Henderson Montgomery? Yeah, well I like Montgomery a little more. Um, I know you do, but you do not much more. I have, you know who else might I like them a little bit more? These guys right here? Okay, yeah, that's okay. Now now give us the nugget, go a little nugget on us today. That's the best part about the combine is like you can be in here, you

learn a lot. Well, you when you're not trying, you're almost never trying, Like when you try, that's when nothing happened, works, works, go to get a cup of coffee and you're like, hey, David, yeah, it's kind of like when you're meeting girls. You know, it's just yeah, when you try. That's a really good point. But what need and you need to counsel me on my dating life after you counsel me on the draft. Um yeah, I mean I literally just you wander around,

you hear some things. You hear the Cowboys had a meeting with David Montgomery. There you go, sound like they really like him, which I think a lot of people really like him. That's not unique. He's an eagle scout. Uh those eagle scout. The intelligibles are off the charts. Give me the bad guy. He's a guy who's not he almost like how I describe it, my report is he's more of a checkers runner than a chess runner.

Like he's not going to checkers' hop hop hop well or chess like he wants to jump you, meaning he wants to go at you and be physical and not so much not so much chess where he's three moves ahead. You know, he's focused on the guy in front of him and he's going to either you know, go right at him him and you know, force a miss tackle or you know, just give him everything he has right,

But he's not looking at the move behind. You know, he's not gonna try to miss, make this guy move or miss and then you know, going the next guy. This is not how he thinks it's not how he runs now, he doesn't have run with anticipation, but I think he has the contact balance you want short air quickness. Now. Something with him is you know, talking about the level of calm to beat up on the Big twelve again every time. Yeah, you are? You know you will never

get a gig with a Big twelve team. Probably not. That's okay, he'll be. He was second behind Devin Singletary in college football last year and broken tackles so and he did it with just a different style Devin Singletary, that lateral juke quickness in where Montgomery's more physical contact balance. That's how he makes guys miss. So different guys. But uh, you know, I think with him he's just He's not gonna be elite in anyone area. But he doesn't have

many weaknesses either. You have said though, which it's not a bad thing. But he caught the ball well to day too. By the way, does he compliment Zeke like does he bring a skill set that does not have I think Williams would be a different back if you're looking for a different back, Henderson would be that. Henderson is the home run in right, don't you kind of feel like that that's what they want is a guy

with I mean, and Zeke is so good. It's not like he there's not a lot of stuff he can't do, right, you know the Cowboys considering and I love Lance Dumbar, but like Lance Dunbar did not have a huge impact for you could stay healthy, I know. But but that's the type of guy that they so enamored with. Yea. And yeah, if you look at you know the visits in the past top thirty visits, they all they bring

that type of guy in every year Humphrey exactly. They might they're the anti get ready for this next one will be all over top of that one. Yeah, and you know they met with Montgomery. That's it's awesome. It's useful to know they meet with sixty guys here, right, So it doesn't mean everything. And yeah, but there's six there's three hundred and something players here. They know it means something. But maybe they're trying to figure out what

kind of teammate Keim Butler is. You never know. Interesting. Yeah. The other thing too, it so what their first fourth round pick is one twenty eight. I'm I don't sound I don't feel super optimistic that he'll be there, and I can't imagine that they pick him with their second or third round pick. I'd agree, Yeah, I think I got these guys in the third you know, let me, let's be honest. Every team that's drafted or running back in the third round, I'm sure I'm missing somebody. It

seems like that they've hit on these guys. It seems like the third round running back simplification, I know, but I'm just saying that. Maybe you know, we're talking about guys in third round and then they get in the league and all of a sudden to David Montgomery, Trevion Williams, Alvin Kamara jumps to mind, uh guy now new guy Cleveland, Tevin Coleman, Duke Johnson. I mean they've been all right. Oh Chubb, Chubb was the second round? No no no, no, no, no, no,

no no no. John Dorsey's oh Kareem h yeah. Oh okay, if they're if this team say they are looking for that more of a change of pace guy, what about a guy who had a pretty nice workout this morning? Justice Hill see this? Okay, glad you talked about And here's point here. I've never heard this name Yeah, here's ran a four four. Here's point number eight for Brian Broadest. Two guys have had to study when I get back to the Star, justin Justice Hill from Oklahoma State and

Miles Sanders from Penn State. Dane Brugler was trying to get me to get on both of these guys before the combine and that just ran out of time. He was trying. He says, you need to watch these two kids play well. I mean, Miles Sanders is basically he's like the less He's not as explosive version of sa Quon. I don't know what's in the water of whoa, whoa, whoa repeat what you just said, and not as explosive versions as sa Quan Well. I mean, explosion is a

big part of what makes part of it. But the Giants are so happy that I went over there and we're talking about Zeke and sa Quon. They were all we were from the draft running backs in the top five teams. I'm okay. If he's a less explosive sa Quan, I assume that means he's got incredible balance and can catch the ball. He looked like he did it today because those things, Yeah, he was doing the wheel routes, the inside routes, everything to do to throw him the football.

That kid caught him all. The biggest, biggest concern with him is Balston Well, I need to watch that and in the past I've I've posted the fumble rates. Maybe I should do that again this year, but he had by far the worst fumble rate in this class. Um. And this again, this is a guy who you have

to wonder. I don't like that. I don't like that's that, but it's it's tough when you're playing behind Saquon Barkley and you don't get a chance to beat the guy you know, like you're the right Like that factors in as well, Um, But you know when he had a chance to be on the field this year taking over for sa Quon, he's he's built really well. He runs

a daylight. I'm a fan of Miles Sanders. But then with Justice Hill, when you watch his tape, man, he's running through some gaping holes once again, he's trying to take will not give this confidence. It's more a product of the offense because they Oklahoma State plays so wide open. They stretched the field and so yeah, those offensive linemen play like eight feet apart they do? They do? You know, he's but he's quick, there's no quick. He's quick footed

and he's got some juice to him. So yeah, Justice Hill, I don't he'll It'll be interesting to see how high he goes. You know, I don't. Coming in I had a fourth round grade on him, okay, and I think he tested much better than not much better, but better. I'm trying to get influenced, like, what's wrong with your head side? So does he get them pushed into third? Now? Oh? Maybe? But so for a team looking for that style of that, there's no question you You tried to get me to

look at two guys and I'll let you down. Partner, Well, he didn't let him down. It's March first. Yeah, he asked me to do it, yet it down. I came into this being intrigued by Hill, like I mean, when you when you run the best time, you're gonna catch people's eyes, even if the forty is not important. There you go. But what you said makes me way. I want to watch Sanders way more than I want to watch Hill. Basically, you're not You're not gonna get back

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have it. Now, that is it? Doctor Pepper, craven, Doctor Pepper, the one you crave. This This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draftboys. We're back here the twenty nineteen NFL scouting combine. Brian brought us Dame Brewer, David Hellman, Hey on periscope. We thank everybody that's hanging out with us. We do loves, I do love me some periscope and Dane, they're tooking a shot at you on periscope. By the way,

what do you probably they want? They want to know, they want to know what conference put the league MVP this year. We were just talking about outliers, I mean, Paul about how about the league MVP. Well, actually Baker, Yeah, Baker didn't win it Rookie of the Year. He should have, but him's too big. Twelve football is coming to the NFL.

There's no question about that. Is we've spent the last three days talking about By the way, real quick before we get to Twitter on the twenty have you ever seen remember when we used to be across the street at the stadium in the in the in the club area. Are you talking about Kyler's crowd? Could they have handled Kyler Murray's crowd today or have you seen a bigger one? I remember man Tai Teo being big, Cam Newton. Cam

Newton was big, Tim Tebow. That Tebow it's it's it's it wasn't It's not that impressive to me because it's I think this was a smart decision by the NFL to put it in the Convention Center. There's so much space, so it's a ton of people, but we got a lot of space here when Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did this. Yeah, it's I mean it's in the little atrium outside of the you know, it's a corridor, and so there's ninety reporters trying to talk to these guys

in half the space. So I thought that was way more crazy and way more closter phobic than this. Okay, you you asked, how do you you? You were? You were talking about the Super Bowl press conferences that he had not well, the meetings he had with the media, Kyler Murray, how do you think he handled today? Do you feel like that it was much better? Kind of soft talker a little bit. That's who he is, you know, like,

and it's funny. Someone asked Hollywood Brown about what was the difference between Baker and Kyler, and he said, immediately, Old Baker the talker, and Kyler is pause. He let's play to do the talking. You know, He's like, try do I say this nicely? You know, like I don't want to put Kyler down. He just it's not his personality. You know. That told two totally different personalities. And if Kyler does in college or does in the NFL what he did in college, that's gonna be okay. Team will

be just fine with that. Teammates will you know, go to bat for him to But so it doesn't really matter. But if when things get tough and you know, how is he going to react to that if he's not good. They're in a press conference setting. You know, Jared Goff was terrible. Yeah, you know in his press conference. I remember I was. I was standing probably three feet away from him when they were going after him about his hand size. And Jeff Kavanaugh three were like, yeah, take that, Yeah,

take that. Kavanaugh was like egging him on the like tell him, tell him, Champ, tell him, Champ, Champ, Champ, Champ, tell him. Okay, Uh yeah again. Uh. If you got some questions on periscope, love to take those, but right now we're gonna turn it over to David Hellman and Twitter on the twenty. This is the this smart questions. We got smart listeners, you know. And by the way, thank everybody out there. We're doing so well on all I mean again, it's we do appreciate you guys and

making this the hot on this hot list. This is this is a Draft Knicks question. Okay, perfect. David says, why don't we talk more about the ten yards splits for running backs? Uh? I would think that time is more reller. I would think that time is more relevant. It must be a scientist who are running back to measure hitting holes. And bouncing outside and to Dane's point, top line speed is important. But how many forty your yard runs do you see in the NFL? You can

see ked a bunch of miss first year. Yeah, yeah, a lot. He would not have done it with that that ten yards split a lot more as rookie year than years after that. That's right. Why Yeah? Why, Like, I mean, I think it's a good point. Honestly, we do it with the lineman for sure. Honestly, it's because

we don't get the numbers right away. Yeah, you know, like if they treated the I we treated the ten yards split numbers like they did the forty yard numbers, and we got them right away, and you know, because official times and all that. So generally I usually wait till we get the combine sheet and have all the numbers and no, okay, this guy this ten yard and

so we have that right in front of us. Um. But yeah, no, three cone and the ten yards split are to me universal drills, like you know, the forty yard dash. I care more about that. Yeah. I care more for the forty yard dash when it comes to corners wide receivers than I do the other position right stride speed when it comes to the ten yards split.

It matters for every position because I want to know that initial quickness, that reaction quickness, your get off, especially for edge rushers, but if you're a center, if you're running back, if you're a safety, I want to know that initial ten yards. If you you know, tap out at twenty or thirty yards, okay, how do you do in those ten yards? So there's no question the ten yards split is to me, the second most important time at the combine behind three Condrow Braden says, was holy

Field the biggest disappointment today? I list I missed some of his workout, but his lack of hands and lack of speed are concerning to me. You know what holy Field out of Georgia? Yeah, I I I'm kind of thinking more Singletary just from the speed aspect of it. That's fair, But holy Field, I mean he's not fast, like he wasn't fast on tape. That's not what makes holy feel. Yeah, that's exactly right there. I mean, he's a powerful guy. He's gonna play with quickness. I didn't

expect him to run four eight though. I'll put it this out. How many times did you get him? See? Did you see him get caught from behind, like you know, like, yeah, he wasn't in a position to get caught from behind

because that's just not Speed's not his game. Somebody, you know, the combines fun too, because throughout the week NFL players are tweeting their kind of perspective combine And somebody tweeted out a video of holy Field blowing up our defense and was like, the forty yard forty yard matter for this because it doesn't look like he's carrying John Battle.

Devin White's jumping on his back. Yeah. See this is where again I applaud the kids that are willing to go out there and put it on the line and run. But don't don't get down on him as far as disappointment, and because again they worked, you know, they know what they have to work on. Now. He'll never run a forty every again in his life. Yea, if he doesn't. Wait, if he trains and he's still running in the fourth sevens,

he won't run as pro day will need too. Yeah, so exactly, it's probably a great feeling like the last time you remember the last time you took a test in college. Like, man, I've been doing this since I was fifteen and they never had to do it, no question, no question. Okay, Um. I think he's a better player on film though then I was. I was more in the fourth round on Yeah, that's where I had him, like, he given me fourth round grades on good running backs.

I love hearing that. How did he catch the ball today? That's part of the question. I did not see him, Yeah, to go do the pass catching? I did. He He's right about that though that that that is more concerning than that is that is a lot more concerning to me than that because he wasn't asked to do that. A lot of Georgia I don't and that we've said that about all those Georgia backs, Ya, all the backs that have ever come through there, We'll say they don't

throw the ball to him, you know. With that said, Chubb did a pretty nice job this year. I didn't. I'm not sure about Michelle. I didn't watch him close enough, but I'm sure you know he did better as well. So he played for the Patriots. I assume he thought some times more of an opportunity thing than an ability thing. That Dane real quick, Dave could is right. Quell Armstead, Yeah, he had a good day is he is he good compliment to Zeke if you watch when you watch his tape.

I haven't seen him on tape. It depends what are you looking for. Most of the compliment, like, what really worries me about Armstead is he was got awful catching the ball at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, that was a big problem for him. He didn't do very well here either, and that's that's a that's a problem. He's a strong runner, uh you know, the four ford today that he ran was awesome, but he's just not a guy that's going to help you necessarily away from the ball. He did

okay and pass protection, but he's not strong. Lay. You see a lot of acceleration quick, you know, kind of a short step or something makes to take the fee down quick ten ten broad Jo speaks to the lower body burst and explosion. Yeah, how about that. That's impressful top out, not bad at all. I'm sorry, David um Our buddy Jonah wants to know, sir, he says Phil Haynes, the Wake Forest Guard. Yep, thoughts powerful. He's a power dude. He wrapped it on the bench too. I think he

has thirty three or something. I don't know the other results in front of you. He was keep talking. He was a guy that I know some scouts were pushing for, like Senior Bowl, Like this guy needs to be at the Senior Bowl. Um, they decided not to. Yeah, six o three five on the measurement three twenty two. And then you look at him five two two five two out of five two one on the and then thirty three three. Yeah, yeah, he was right bad. No thirty one.

That's that's really good. I think we talked about the because he's a guard interior linemen on the vert the average in the NFL twenty eight interior and explain what

you just did? What you just said there. So I took the top thirty players at each position in the NFL, and then I went back and I researched all of their combine, uh, with their testing numbers, and then to get an average UM and so for the top thirty, I mean just you know, it's very subjective top thirty, but you know you have to trust me on that one. So and then I broke it up by position interior offensive line. I combined guard and center. So yeah, vertical

jump twenty eight. Uh, what was his forty forty five two one, okay, five two four was the average. So and this is and this isn't just every guard, So there's some bad ones. This is a top thirty guards and centers in the NFL. So they're all starters, you know, guys that are you know, at least competing for Pro Bowls. Um So, Phil Haynes had a very nice day. And yeah, you know, unfortunately we didn't get a chance to him with the Senior Bowl because I know there were scouts

pushing for him to get a Senior Bowl spot. Uh, he didn't. He got squeezed out. But he's the guy that plays with power and he can move a little bit, so he's gonna get further looks by the NFL. Kevin says, give me a name for an offensive tackle the Cowboys can draft in the fourth round, fourth round, two picks one twenty eight and one thirty six. See who he got in the fourth round. I'm looking. I think through those databases, fellas could Juiced, West Virginia could Juice was

a guy I've been talking about that guy. I thought the guy had a really good workout today. See I saw the opposite and I when y'all don't agree to me. It matched his tape like where he's Yadney Yodney could juice. Yeah, he had. He's a foreign basketball player, so he can move well. He's he can move, That's what That's what I was. I was impressed with how big he was and how well he moved. That's what I was trying to learn about about him in in this uh in this,

in this uh this combat. I thought he played kind of or today he looks kind of how he does on tape where you can tell he moves well, but he's also off balance. It's way too much. It's a little wild with his movements, Like he just doesn't play composed. He doesn't play under control, and that bothers me a lot. I one thing I've learned over the years when scouting these guys at any position, how the importance of balance, especially for offensive linemen. His lack of balance really worries me.

And I saw that today on the field, and so that's why I would like people have been thrown out first round, you know, on him. Yeah, and he's yeah, and I I mean and now with which that's crazy. I mean, he you're probably thinking four five or you thinking four yeah, I'm thinking like day three, he's still around like fourth round. Okay, So I have him in that group with Howard and yeah sharp Ring in those guys, that's who I have him with. Yeah, No, that's that's Fairman.

Sharping is another guy who I think he'll probably go top one hundreds. So I don't think he'll be there in the fourth. All right, you don't like the juice who you got in the fourth round? It is Howard there for you. No way, I think he's top sixty. Um McGarry, No, I think he's He didn't perform, He didn't test as well as I thought he would. Incongruence on the boards here, I like it. But McGarry's gonna go. Where do you have you have them in the third?

I had McGary in the fourth, him in Romer, and I mean I ros he Romer disappointed today. His tape is not great. And I know, I know our buddy Daniel Jeremiah was very excited about him. Was when he was watching the tape of him San Diego State. Kid, I'm sorry, we need to throw these. I didn't had a good day at all, right. I didn't think he did either. No, he had his hips, his feet, they just I don't know, they were over they were all

over the place. Um, it's just it's tough because if you don't like an offensive lineman enough to take him top one hundred, like what's the point? You know, Like, yeah, what's the point. Yeah. So, I mean I'm trying to find a guy about Trey Pipkins, Soup falls, Pipkins Suo falls, the school, Yeah, the city, no Burglar special, not to Oh my god, no no, no, no, well okay, not drafting a D two are not? Okay? Cool, that's awesome that it worked out for him. We're not doing it.

Will McClay won't do it either, Well won't. You're probably right? How many non power fives has will McClay draft in the last week? Keep talking? You know the question bois State doesn't count because they're like the Royalty of nonpower fives. We were talking about, you know, fourth round tackles. So who is my guy again from Jacksonville? I keep talking about Jeremy Parnell. Jeremy Parnell. I I kind of I leaned toward thinking, I know, I know Laal Collins is

in a contract year. I feel like they're gonna go the stop gap approach this year, Like I don't see this team investing heavily in a tackle in the draft. I mean, anything's possible, Like if it's too good of a situation, pass up. But that's just kind of the inkling that I have. And we talk about fourth round tackles. I mean to think about it, like if you're purchasing anything, you know there's a reason it's discounted. You know there's a reason it's on sale, And what's that reason? Uh got?

Like Adoga, the USC tackle who has terrible football character. You know you have to worry about him. Is he had the toughness to play hurt? Does he Is he gonna give you full hundred percent from the get go every single snap. Probably not, But if you can coach that out of him, then you're gonna have a starting tackle. But you're probably not gonna coach that out of him.

So he's one of those discount guys in the fourth round where you know, maybe there's a chance he hits, but there's he's gonna, you know, really bother you with some of the stuff that he does. I'm gonna take a guess that Ernie. Ernie's got our next question. And I think he's probably from the Pacific Northwest because he wants to talk about UW's Miles Gaskin and Wazoos James Williams, both of whom I am intrigued. Both pretty good pass catchers. And that's tell me Mark James Williams, he had sixty

plus catches last year. I'm let's draft him. Let's get him. He uh, you know he can catch the ball. And Miles Gasking he's been a model of consistency the last four years and he had over twelve hundred yards each of those four seasons at Washington. So on one side you have a guy has taken a lot of nishment. On the other, uh. And then for a smaller guy too, what do you what are you weigh in? At Miles Gasking, he's around two hundred pounds below two hundred We get

you right here. Hang on, make sure you read all four numbers. Oh you know, I'm gonna read all four numbers. Maybe don't don't, don't don't think I'm not. We just you guys got to talk. I'm doing this. It's in curiating watching you came two O five. Okay, okay, that's that's a pretty good time. Wait for nine two two o five. He reminds me allowed to Giovanni Bernard. Oh okay, who you know, he's kind of a yeah, kind of a disappointing career compared to the hype. And that's what

you're talking about in the fifth round with Miles Gasking. Yeah, okay, so you know a guy who's just he's kind of limited. He doesn't have great power. Um, where do you have Benny Snell? I struggle? He didn't. He was you brought him up the other night too. I kind of was watching him today and he caught everything again. I'm you know, people are saying, did justice Hi'll get hurt and the forty yard the second run and not thinty or did he not work out? I was I thought I saw him.

People are saying one guy just said here or lady, he didn't catch. I'm trying. I mean, because I was watching the pitch steak guy catch and anyway, I'm sorry about that. That's the case. But but yeah, but talking about talking about Benny Snell, now, I saw him catching all the balls today and that's something he wasn't asked to do a ton right at Kentucky. But you know his time was for using that for six seven range, that was expect Singletary wasn't expected for six seven for Snell,

now is expected. He's he's more of a heavy footed guy because he's he's a power guy. He's what you love about Benny Snell is you're gonna hand on the ball twenty five times a game and he's gonna get you one hundred yards and he's gonna continue to take punishment and keep going. So if you're looking for a guy who's gonna break off a big run and be explosive, that's not Benny Snell. But the NFL still has value for guys that take abuse and come back the same

guy first quarter, fourth quarter. It does not matter. Benny Snell is gonna be the same guy snap in, snap out, And that's the value with a guy like that. And so he's very specific running back where he's not gonna be for everybody, But if you're looking for that type, he's perfect for you. Give me give me a little sorry, Brian, Yeah, give me a little more on Williams five h nine four seven. Yeah, And he didn't test as well, because

what did he run here in the four sixes. Right, Yeah, he was for his time would be four five nine. That was surprising. I thought he'd run a little better than that because he's he's a quick footed guy. Um, he's got a great backstory, Like he was a guy that like was living, he was homeless for a while and um, you know, a great backstory. And you know he went to Washington State. He came out as a junior. Really good production of that offense, but a lot of

it as a pass catcher. I think he had sixty three catches this year. Um, he's looking for guys who compliments Zeke yeah and saying yeah, he wasn't asked to do a lot of pass pro in that offense. But you know he's a guy that he has at least has a baseline measurables where uh you know, and the asking price too. He's more of a late round guy than anything. So, um, you know he could be five six seven, five to seven some more somewhere in there. Okay, No,

he's in that. You know, jumble up these late round running backs and see where they fall. You know, guys like uh, you know Jordan Scarlett, LJ. Scott, those types we got, we got a question about Scarlett too. Yeah, Florida running back. He ran good and it ran well in the forty yard dash, not so much in the three cone. I saw his three cone was pretty disappointing. But he's remember when you talked about Antonio Callaway from Florida last year and the credit cards scandal, and yeah

he was a part of that. Oh good, So he missed all of two hundred and seventeen, came back this year and he shared the the load with p Ryan Um some AG's cousin. I believe um at Florida, and so you know he's he's a solid guy. But I don't know nothing exceptional about him. He's gonna be a Day three running back who you know is gonna make

a team and try to carve aunderable. Stern wants to know what's the first position the Cowboys will double up on in the draft wide receiver, defensive Wow, that's really he really wants that question. Now, Okay, both ways. If you consider defensive line as a whole, then it's definitely

a defensive line. Yeah, I think end and tackle. But if we if we separate an end and tackle, then you know, maybe they just doubled up at receiver last year, right, So that's what doesn't mean they won't, but it's kind of hard to see, especially with Hearns staying on the team. Do they double up? I would especially with so few I mean what six picks. Yeah, I would lean towards may be surprised if I would lean toward no or it made um you know, if you count dB, I

could see cornerback and safety could maybe do that. But yeah, I think I would be kind of surprised if they double up, like truly doubled up, you know what I mean, like two d tackles or two safeties, like, yeah, two wide receivers. Okay, give me more questions over there? Day um I Jordan asked this question, like, I don't know, it's kind of cheap. He said, if you could pick one running back in this draft to be Zeke's back up, who would it be? Which, Like, I get the I

get the question at but like who cares? If you want Josh Jacobs, who cares? Not gonna get him? Right? So yeah, arrange that to be realistic, I guess you know what I mean? And which David Montgomery like, is it realistic to think that he could be there? For you with a pick that you want to use, or Justice Hill. Maybe that's some thinking. I mean, Dane's got it interesting now with you know, maybe Hill, maybe Williams, maybe Henderson. I mean, it's all those third round guys.

That's I'm kind of something, you know, with all these backs, maybe somebody slides, maybe slides a little bit, and then all of a sudden, now you're looking at one of these guys and you had a third round great on him, and you got him with the first you know, your first pick in that fourth round. About the guy we didn't see today, Bryce, Bryce Love, see I wrote about him. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's that's so intriguing, out of sight, out of mind, because you know, we he interviewed him, he was at

the podiumsterday. I listened to. I mean, as you says, he was sharp, and he said yesterday that he thought he could be ready for camp, didn't he hed? Yeah something like that. I mean, and with the way they do ACL surgeries and all that, I think he could be ready. Maybe come off, pup. It's not that far fetched, it's not. Yeah, it's intriguing. It is very because you're again, if we're talking about third day, guys, they're discounted. Why

they discounted with Bryce Love? You know why he's discounted. It would be very cowboys, It would be very cowboys. He One of the big knocks on Bryce Love this year was lack of production catching the ball. He had twenty catches this year, so they were they heard that and they worked to get him more pass catching opportunities. Yeah, I love you, I love which I mean that's college football, especially Stanford runs that kind of offense, Like twenty is

not a lot. But McCaffrey though, no, I know, I know, I mean that's true, but that's compared to what they did with Bryce Love the year before. You know, if Bryce Love comes out last year, he's a second round pick. If he falls to one twenty eight and he's the top seventy five pick, and maybe he won't be ready on the first day of training camp, but you can

take him off pup in August or September. Yeah, Well, he would have been a fainting if you didn't have the ACL injury right and he had this disappointing junior year, senior year like he had, where would he have gone? Um, you know, third round, fourth round, it's hard to say. We'll never know for sure, but adding the ACL is just another reason why he's discounted, and you know that's why he is a realistic opportunity in the late fourth. Would you rather take that chance or just draft? You know,

I was more sure commodity. Take your the Memphis kid. You like the Memphis kid. But yeah, you'd have probably use a second rounder. Yeah, I mean, because we had remember the third rounders, you know late Well, okay, and that's what I wanted to say before Dane brought up Bryce Love. Is you talk about a guy sliding? Stephen Jones said Tuesday. They don't want to use They want to use a late pick on a running back they

don't want to use. But the old age old question of like if he's truly BPA best player available, Yeah, you think they do it? Pick ninety's you pick the running back doesn't matter. But if that's the case, I would think so. Yes. If they're wiped out other positions, sure, then I think that's where it picked. Depth of the position is going to probably be pretty good for him. There. Yeah,

that's interesting. Get like, I mean, you know, I think your odds of hitting on a running back at ninety or much better than Damn Ney or any other position. I think any team that wants a running back, a center, an offensive tackle, defensive end, I think everybody's gonna be happy about that. I think those are position is gonna stretch. It just depends on I don't think. I don't think

linebackers are gonna stretch. I feel really confident in my ability to get a running back on day three, So it just depends who's If there's an a running back, a b uh, you know, say, defensive tackle, and then a bunch of c's, I'm probably taking the B defensive tackle over the A running back, you know, And no, dressing your board this window, dressing that board. You has

to be realistic. No, I agree with you. And that's that's you know, BPA doesn't actually exist because you have to you have it's best player available towards You have to think about exactly that's what it is. Unless unless it's just such a glaring, just glaringly obvious choice, you're like, we gotta take this guy. I mean, you know, like if if Noah Fan fell to fifty eight, a team

that had five tight ends would still probably draft that guy. Yeah, anyway, Sorry, makes you wonder why he is there in the first place. Last three, last three minutes. So and again thanks everybody out there for Twitter on the twenty. We appreciate all the questions. We appreciate all the questions and comments on the periscope as well. Dane Brugler set us up for tomorrow and what we got going. So tomorrow we'll have quarterbacks out there, running backs or sorry, wide receivers and

tight ends. So good genc Dwyenne Haskins throw? Um, how does he look throwing the ball around, especially in comparison to Drew Locke and Daniel Jones and those guys wide receivers forty yard dash? Uh? You know, dk Metcalf's gonna fly. But what does he doing three or in the three comes short? Yeah? How did he do? Change the direction? Wise?

How did you catching the ball? And his routes? So these wide receivers, Uh, you know, we want to see Nikkil, Harry Kelvin Harmon uh, Butler, we want to see the bigger guys, how they look, how they look doing their drills? And then you know I mentioned the quarterbacks, how don't what does Dwayne Haskins look like? Uh? These look comfortable, is he? You know, I want to see if you're a top five pick. I want to see you look like it. And so we'll find out tomorrow. Yeah, I mean,

I'll tell you what I was in pressed. I was watching the uh you know, the wide receivers just be a time with the wide receivers didn't bench and and and back in the day of the combine. Yeah, by the time they just didn't bench him. They remember, And I think I'm right about that because I remember not

ever having to put numbers in for wide receivers. And now these guys go up there and a guy like Jalen heard those twenty three up and we got a guy, you know, uh, you know, guys, guys, guys throwing like a Gary Jennings at those up twenty The average wide receiver bench press, let's see here, fourteen you know, uh, Kneil uh Neil, Kennel, Harry Nikki Nikkil, Harry, You're getting there. I'm trying twenty seven on the bench press. Metcalf did

something absurd. Yeah, Medcalf will twenty seven. That's crazy. Yeah, yikes. So and it was the thing with Metcalf two is he has thirty five in arms, Like, it's one thing when you have shorter arms and you're doing that when you had thirty longer arms than than Noah Williams. He's a specimen, noa Noah Williams. Joanah Wi Joe. Know when I'm getting it's it's it's the end of the day for me. Hey, we got two more days. It's yeah, two more days. All right, then when we're gonna wrap

this thing up right now? Cash, Yeah, I need to. It's okay, We're gonna go get a stay. I got somebody got so many names is floating? I know you got the same problem too, is all right? Well, hey, thanks everybody out there again for joining us. Uh, we will be like David said, we'll be back tomorrow night, six o'clock. It will be our final show from here in Indianapolis. We're gonna try and kind of tie up

the wide receivers, the quarterbacks and those tied ends. So so it should be a good day of working out for us here on the Draft show. So again, thanks everybody out there. Hope you have a great evening and we will see you tomorrow.