Draft Show: LIVE @ 2018 NFL Combine - Day 4

everybody out there. We had the quarterbacks, wide receivers and tight ends work today, the big money positions that uh, I mean some tight ends. Maybe you can make some money today with the way they were out there. But as always I got my scouting buddies. Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Kent Garrison, Executive Producing. I want to open the show

tonight with though a little bit of sad news. And we kind of talked about this last night, and this is something that from the experience that we've we've learned here at the combine. We talked about this as a possibility and it tends to happen when medical are involved. And really for the combine, the most important things for these teams are the medical checks. You know, they need to find out about these players. The health of these players.

Something that I was worried about last night. I think we were all kind of worried about, is is there gonna be a guy pop up? Is there something going to happen that's going to allow that's not going to allow someone to potentially not live their NFL dream. Now again where you know, we'll need to see what all

the tests lead to. But as we get into more information, Maurice Hurst, the very talented defensive tackle, the under tackle three technique from Michigan, we're hearing from reports, has a heart condition and so kind of running some things down. Adam Schefter had it today and then I, you know, we were just kind of thinking about my guys Shore. We talked about it last night and now we have

a situation like that. But the thoughts are though that Hurst is gonna have to they came, they found the condition. He's gonna have to run some more tests if the tests are going to determine whether he in fact can continue his career playing football. So for a a young man that Dane Brugler in his first mock traff had coming to the Dallas Cowboys at eighteen. I think I know I had him on the board at the first round. I believe Dane had him on the first round. David,

you'd seen him before. But again, talk about him, Dane, talk about the fear we had being here at the combine. It's something like this was going to happen, and lo and behold, they happened last night. Yeah, and it's unfortunate because this is something that's potentially career ending. You know, not to be that's not to be over dramatic or anything. It's just it's a serious issue. And this isn't a precaution, it's a it's a it's something that teams are really

worried about. So first and foremost, you just hope the best for him as a person. Um, you know, he can live a normal life and it's not anything that's going to you know, hinder that. But then secondary his football career, what's what's gonna happen. Um, you know he's gonna get second and third opinions, Uh, you know from

the best opinions out there. Uh, and try to figure this out, and you know, we have this happened, but she hasn't thirteam a star Lotu Lelee right when he had a hard condition here at the combine, didn't work out, got a second opinion and was cleared, and the Panthers took him mid first round. So this by no means rules out Maurice Hearst from draft consideration at nineteen or

for any team for that matter. But at this point we just hope for the best because it's a guy who is trained and dreamt of this opportunity and unfortunately he was told and needs to go home because something serious could happen. Yeah, he's not gonna work out tomorrow. As Dane said, he has left the combine. David just you know, unfortunate bit of news. But you know the thing that I again, you got some of the best doctors, some of the best men and women doctors in the

country here in Indianapolis, all together under one roof. And then you've got all these batteries of battery of tests that they run the MRIs and you know, EKGs and everything that they could do to these players. And you know, they found this and and you know, I believe very fortunately that he can now they could say, hey, you've got this condition we need to run more tests, so he now. I mean it's it's not so much about football,

it's about it's about your health, is what it really is. Yeah, absolutely, uh and I mean yeah, echoing Dan everything, just everything Danger said. I mean, you want the best for him health wise, first of all. I mean, jeez, you know, nothing is more important than your health in your life. Obviously, um selfishly not to detract from that at all, but it's just kind of like one of the themes for this week is just like keep taking names off the

board of options at night for the Cowboys. I mean, that's started the week off with Stephen Jones saying nose tackle maybe not so much. Um. We we've talked at nauseum about how guys like Calvin Ridley, Roquan Smith probably won't last that long. You're kind of far down the board for some of these blue chip prospects. And then a guy that did make sense, you know, they love three techniques they got very well could have been there. Yeah, and I think Dave's mock was absolutely accurate on that.

To be fair, he might still be there. Actually, Yeah, we don't know enough, but right now can't very well right now think that he's an option at nineteen until we know more about this. So it's just one more situation where you're like, all right, exactly can we talk about as a possibility at nineteen? And this is a scenario where this isn't like, oh, we can give him a third round now, right, Yeah, yeah, if he's either going to be right back where he was or he's

not gonna get dropped. Yeah, either you have him in the first round where you originally had him on the board, or he's not on your board and won't be considered. So this isn't a case where now you're gonna get a steal in the fifth round. That's not what this is about. Yeah, Okay, Well, let's go to the happier side of things today and hopefully thoughts and prayers with

with Maurice hearchs hopefully everything works out, all right. Had some quarterbacks throw today, Yeah, four the five through the five top ones. Four the five top quarterbacks, so kind of one of those things. It was really baskin Robbin's day. Depending on which flavor you really liked. And you know, and I know you reached out to some of your scouting buddies. We had our own eyes on Uh, you know they're in the room, assuming the stadium and how

things we win. I mean a lot of varying opinions of how these quarterbacks were able to navigate the day. And I'll open it up to indie thoughts that YouTube gentlemen have about you know what we saw. Well, yeah, and you kind of alluded to it, already mentioned it, but I did. I reached out to one scout us it's just one scout's opinion, right, who watched it, and he graded him like this number one and this is just today how they performed on in Lucas Oil Stadium. Uh,

throwing the ball Baker Mayfield was wanting. He said he was accurate. Quick Next was Josh Allen said, showed some consistency, some consistency, which I know is kind of an oxymoron, right at some consistencies another way of saying inconsistent but um. And then then third was basically a tie between Josh Rosen and Lamar Jackson. He said both were underwhelming. So take from from that which you will. Um, you know,

this is just one workout and just one set of eyes. Uh, you could ask a different scout maybe a different opinion. I don't know, but I thought, just you know, watching him, watching the workouts myself, I see what he's saying. With Baker Mayfield, I thought everything was quick. Uh, basically what you see on his tape, he was at his best on the slants, and you know when he could lead the receiver, he didn't have to think much. It just quick, get it out. It's very accurate, uh, Josh Allen, Man,

he can uncork some just lasers. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Uh. And that's why he's going to be in that top fifteen conversation when I don't necessarily think he should be, just because I undeveloped you in certain areas of playing the position. And then Rose and Jackson neither had the best day. I don't think they were bad. I wouldn't say they were bad, right, but they weren't good either. So it's just, you know, I think underwhelming might be

the West way to put it. Let's go back to Baker Mayfield, David, and if with Baker Mayfield, he's not always gonna look pretty mechanically, he's not always gonna do the right things. Well, he's like nothing about him is prototypical, you know, Josh Allen, you know yeah, and so you mean there's some of the throws that you might have seen with him with you know, poor feet, you know, poor footwork, opening shoulders, opening hips, things like that. I mean,

you know, maybe some accuracy. I mean I was talking to some guys about it. Maybe throwing a little bit better going right than left. I mean, are these things though that you're kind of kind of you're gonna have to deal with with Baker Mayfield. Yeah. You watch his tape and like the Oklahoma offense is geared around Baker Mayfield his strengths as a player, and so you see a lot of seam throws. You know, you see a lot of you know, working the running back into the

passing game. Uh. But you don't see consistent NFL routes. And you know that's something we had to We watched here at the combine, right, and there were some inconsistent moments when he made throws outside the numbers or uh you know, he was asked to maybe on some timing routes. Uh.

And it's difficult here, let's be honest. For ye receivers, you'd never throw them too absolutely, you know you don't have You're not in a game environment where you have pads on, and you know, there's there's a clock, there's a defense, there's pressure. I mean there's obviously pressure in the sense that there's thirty two NFL teams with their eyes locked on you in every throw matters, but in

terms of defensive pressure. So it's something that I think you can take things from how the quarterbacks work out, but it's not end all, be all that, yeah, exactly, which I mean to steal your line. I feel like you say this about everybody, but quarterbacks too. I mean, if you didn't like what you saw today, wait for

the pro day. Yeah, better it could be. And you know, and I personally was like, you know, me and my you know, the the Josh it was gonna MEU the Lamar Jackson stuff, you know, and and I and I'm I'm really locking in on on Lamar Jackson again. I'm proud of him for going out there and throwing. But if you do, if you do watch him throw, you know,

there was that again. It looked like a little bit of nervousness with him and the way he played, you know, the way I mean I didn't feel like though that you know, when you there's things I saw on tape that were that were really good, you know, and then and then there's some other things you know, mechanically today. See that's when there's when there's no rush. When there's no rush, that seems to be the hardest thing for

Lamar Jackson to have to deal with. If Lamar Jackson just has to sit there and drop back, it doesn't have me. I mean, he's just got to be accurate every throw. And Okay, I've got a I've got a step. I've got to you know, I've got to, you know, my feet. I'm gonna throw off my back foot. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna have to step up. And you know, I thought Daniel Jeremiah hit him pretty good today with from the NFL Network about the the in throws were good, the comeback throws were good. The stuff

outside the numbers wasn't so good. That's the same on tape. Yeah, and that's in that And that's what I'm saying. I mean, I but I mean, I still, I mean, I love the player, I really really do love the player. But I say, I think it's hard for him. This is a hard environment for him to throw the football in. Well. And I think just because he's at his best when things are kind of being you know, thrown at him

while he's moving around and stuff. To Dan's point too, I mean that's and I'm not making excuse, I'm not making apologies for the kid, but it's it's but I just feel like though that he's not gonna shine in this setting, like say, Alan was gonna shine with the arm strength, where I was gonna go like, this isn't

this isn't football. And that's why you know, I'm I've been pretty firmly anti Josh Allen throughout this whole thing, right, I don't trust his resume, YadA YadA, but he comes here and he's uncorking, you know, seventy yard throws, like this is an event designed for a guy like him, like he if he doesn't feel he was gonna win the day, just but the arm talent alone. Yeah, Like you talk about his throws to the numbers don't look

good Jackson, Well, obviously Alan's are gonna look great. Got the talent to do that, which and that's why it's so fun and also frustrating because people get so swept up in that and I think that's you know, the combine gets a bad rap from people who don't really follow it because of stuff like that, like you get obsessed over workout numbers and the underwear Olympics and all that. Right, but it's easy to see how it plays into a guy's like that strength, and it's also it's important to

remember that there's way more to it than that. And that's you know, if if any of those guys had looked even worse than they already did, I'm not gonna put a ton of stock in it compared to everything else that goes into the evaluation. Did anybody else catch your eye, Dane? I mentioned maybe a Mike White, somebody like that. Yeah, yeah, any of the other quarterbacks kind of mean down the line guys or anything like that.

I mentioned him because again some I just watching him a little bit when I got to see him throw though, like to say, the accuracy, there's some really some good accurate throws, and he made you know, here's a guy that we he we had seen. We have a little bit of working knowledge with him from the Senior Bowl. And I've said this, if you know you you're looking for a developmental type of quarterback in the fourth, fifth round, right, Mike White and Kyle A Lettau Mike Way from Western

Kentucky Kent and Kyle a Letter from Richmond. Those are the two guys I'd be targeting at least. With those two guys, you see at worst the ability to be a backup and maybe some developmental traits which very timely, very timely. Dane Way to go throwing some Cowboys news into that one kind a chance to talk to Jerry Jones. Yeah, he's gonna get into a little biting. Came right out and saying he was like, we, I mean, you need four quarterbacks to go to training camp. We really like

Cooper Rush. But he said he'd like to add a third developmental prospect who's not a veteran. So yeah, I mean that means a rookie to me. Yeah. Whether whether or not the Cowboys spend a draft pick on him, I don't know, but I would guess they're either going to draft the guy or find another undrafted free agent like Cooper Rush. So he was happy he had those compensatories too, because it's gonna allow maybe to grab an

extra guy or have to move around. If you if you see somebody likes well, if I mean if you want to get into all that total, Yeah, I mean, oh yeah, I'll get into that in the second half of the show. I came away super pumped with what Jerry Jones said about the draft, you know, from our perspective, right, we'll get into that. Yeah, but I mean, you know, you might be sitting here thinking, well, kept the Cowboys

only the quarterback. Where are y'all talking about this? Well, they're gonna add a rookie quarterback to this team this year, like one way or the other. So it is I mean, it's worth it's worth taking a look at. I got you there. Okay, Well how about then let's focus in now on the receivers. Yeah, you know, and really what

you saw. And David, I'll start with you. I'll give you the opportunity to kind of toot the horn on anybody you want to feel like I've done enough horn tooting, like I'm I'm like, it's to the point where I'm worried about oversaturation because of power already there. The the DJ Moore train is like flying off the tracks here. But it's a lot of I mean, guy, he I thought he killed it. What Back in December we were moving down the road in the in the bandwagon for

DJ Moore. All of a sudden, at some point you come in, push me out of the driver's seat, takeover. Going too slow? Apparently I was, you were going too slow. We're trying to get this thing into the station, DJ Moore. Listen. And I've mentioned this before my first draft forward he came at number thirty overall, my number two wide receiver. My first draft forwards about a month old. Now he

came in two inches taller. Okay, all right, already exceeding expectations, and he ran a tenth of a second faster than you thought he was going to Yeah, more than a tenth. We were talking about it's gonna be four to five five right over under that he comes in at four to four two also puts up great numbers and the broad and the vertu. So this is a guy who he crushed the right tape and he comes here and

he is taller and he's faster. He did which Okay, I'm fully mea culpa, like I don't really give you about this. I don't really think DJ Moore is an option at nineteen, but I mean it's it's worth talking about. Like, so sure he's taller than you thought he'd be, he's faster than you thought he'd be. What is holding him back? And what do you see as his real range as a prospect right now? Uh think he's a first round pick. Um. I think it's in my mind it's it's been set

Ridley and more, one, two more. I don't think if you told me that he's gonna come off the board at twenty two, Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Like so I don't think it's a big leap to say that he should be considered at nineteen. When you talk about what you worry about, He's not the best uh in contested situations, a guy that's going to do you know, uh high point and you know, beat defenders and fifty fifty opportunities. Uh, you know, he's not the best in

those situations. But we're nitpicking here. This is a guy who has a lot of things more wives, Yeah, absolutely so. Uh. You know there's a lot to like a DJ Moore coming in and even more so afterwards. So I think we're gonna hear a lot about DJ More a nineteen. I'd be surprised if you as the pick. But again, he should at least be in consideration because we think that the Cowboys will consider a wide receiver in the first three rounds and in the first round Ridley or more.

If Ridley's gone more should at least be in the conference. And I ask you a question, absolutely, what if? What if on team's boards it's more over Ridley? Is that a possibility? Sure? Ridley to me and not? And we I understand where you're no, and you understand where I'm coming from. I'm telling you why I'm just saying Ridley the route running in the play speed or why I

think he's number one. But when you if a team looks at Dj Moore, who's twenty pounds heavier, right and is not there's not a big gap between the two in terms of play speed. And sure Ridley is at a graduate level when it comes to route running, and I feel like DJ Moore just got his undergrad So it's there's not a huge big you know, he's a very good route runner. There's just a little bit of a difference. But again, dj Moore twenty pounds heavier, maybe

you think of him living more durable. A guy that's gonna hold up over the middle could do more things for you. I think that Calvin Ridley is your ideal, Z DJ Moore might be show a little bit more versatility across the formation. See, I don't disagree with you than the order they have. I was just wondering, is there a possibility that if more is the more could be the surprise first receiver going off the board. Because you do you have to me. Those are the two

first round guys. Those are those how I would if there's gonna be two first there's two first round guys. Those are my two first round guys. I think there are There are like four positions where I don't think there's much debate about the top guy. Running back with Saquon Barkley, right um, I think you can throw a guard in there with Quentin Nelson, and then defensive end Bradley Chubb, and then probably corner with Mega Fitzpatrick. And that's just my opinion. I think you look at those,

I guess Derwin James is safety. So those five that there's not much debate about the top player at those positions. And I didn't say why receiver because as much as I like Calvin Ridley, wouldn't be shocked at all if a team preferred DJ Moore because the way he's built and maybe a little more versatility to his game. Let's talk about then, the second round receivers. I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, I will settle for I'm very content with don't think it's going to happen, but it's a

realistic possibility. I'm very content with that, especially two months out from the pos. Don't want to get your hopes so exactly after that, which this kind of goes into what you were gonna say. We just said we think those would be the two first round receivers. If there was gonna be a third receiver taken in the first round, who do you all think it would be. I'm just curious because again we there really have no idea how to sort this log jam out. I think there's like

five names you could like. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to get into. That's this forty yard dash today was j Chart you met teams, covet speed. Oh no, you were saying all along that if he ran great, that he could be right in the mix and the ft roll or use the fourth three two to get up a to the early twenties draft. I'm just saying, buyer beware, there well, sure, absolutely, I'm just saying, no, I get it,

I get it. Nobody, only the man to your left loves lash you more than me, and and and and you watch there's there's not more of a heartbreaking player than him. And every and every time he's out there running around and doing what he's done, I'm like, okay, yeah, and then let's get and then but like the Senior Bowl, he showed up, not the whole week. Then all of a sudden, he showed up at the game, and I'm thinking, no, Jo, this is not a guy I'm used to seeing. You

just defended Lamar Jackson for being a gamer. DJ comes up the lights. No, no, no, no, yeah, I understand, I understand. I'm just saying, though, and you're right, you're somebody's gonna fall up, and you know what, they might fall in love with him over more. If you if you want to if you want to be in if you want to know reality. Here's the thing with DJ Chark is he doesn't need to be a eight catchy game guy. He needs to make two explosive plays a

game and he would justify. But going in the first round, he needs to be a three catch one hundred and ten yard kind of guy, which is and have a you know, average eight yards on punts and you know he can do that too. When you brought this up, I laughed at you, both of you. We're sitting here at the combine and I'm like, yeah, because we play every week. But when hey, it's a it's a big picture, right, You take the you take the combine, take the stats.

Oh sure, resume When you add it all together, it makes sense. I don't know if it's going to work out for the team that does it, but I'm not going to be surprised at all. The NFL covets explosive plays, and DJ Chark is abble to create some of those. Two other names don't want to talk about as possibilities in the first round. Wide receiver. Two guys that you know we talk about Calvin really DJ More. I think

we see those guys as more of number two. Coming around with Callaway is that you're about to tell me no, nobody, Nobody's Callaway, but you won't even make my board. I know who he's gonna talk about because I see him highlighted on his computer. Go ahead. Two guys that have number one potential Courtland Sutton and Equanimius Saint Brown. Yeah, not St Brown, And I think a lot of the rises. I think when you look at Saint Brown, it's the

quarterback play killed him. He had a real quarterback there. He might be absolutely being talked about what you will about Deshaun Kaiser. But his production as a as a sophomore question hire than what he did as a junior under Brandon Wimbush. But Saint Brown at that size, I mean he's almost six to five. His body's still developing, he's still jacked. Uh. He runs really well and he makes plays at all levels of the field. And then

Courtland Sutton, he had himself a good day dinner. You know, we talked about it yesterday on the on the show. Five two athlete, four or five eight athlete, Right, he runs a four or five five right in the middle, So you know, I not a bad time for him, not a great time. The biggest thing for him, and he had good numbers in the short agility drills. Big thing for him will just be the route running. Can he develop as a route runner and adjust to a pro style system. I think it might take a year

for him. He might have the red shirt, not completely red shirt. But I don't think he's gonna live up to his status as a top fifty pick as a rookie. But year two, year three, that's where you hope Sutton blossoms. Does he remind you a little bit with the four four or five speed of not getting any faster, not getting any quicker? Does it? Does it bother you that he's a six three guy two hundred plus pounds and

he's a four or five five guy. I think he can compensate enough with that size and be a power forward on the field that he doesn't need to beat Calvin Ridley with his rounds. He doesn't need to be. He just needs to give a little bit of separation so his quarterback can have some kind of target. So and if he can do that where you know he doesn't get hung up on the on press and at that. Did you ever see him get bullied a little bit

for a big guy A little bit? Yeah, But it's hard because in college you know no, no, and I. And the reason I'm asking you that is because we seem to get fooled by that. Again. I mean, I can see you went at him. Oh No, I I get fooled. I get I got fooled by the big guy. If he would have come in here and say he would have run four four eight four four seven, I'm I'm going with you. But he's yeah, that's no, it's not that, it's just the fact. No, No, it's not.

You even said about the scheme. You've said about the scheme, there's a huge jump. Yeah, sure, but I'm talking about a six three receiver that runs four five five. Yeah. Are we gonna get any faster? No, But that's I don't think you need to. Yeah, I mean that's in this league. In this league, you said you just, oh, you just have to do just enough to get separation. Can he get separation? But I don't think it's an athletic thing for him. It's a route running thing. Because

he performed well in the short agility drills. He has some quickness to him, and I think with work in improving his routes, he can be in Alan Alshan Jeffrey's not a burner, no, but he can do just enough. And that's what I think that Alan Jeffrey went from being a guy drafted and then and then and then all of a sudden having to sign a one year deal with Philadelphia, and then he got an extension and a Super Bowl ring. Yeah think well after after he signed a one year deal. Well, and but I think

that's more laziness than all that. And that's that's what you figure out. What was Sutton? If you think something's gonna work at it, if you think that he is going to put it into time to reach his potential, and then a team will consider him at some point in the first round. It's fair. The twenty shuttle was four eleven, that's fair. It's a good time between three sixty shuttle was eleven o six. You know what, You make sense on that, that part of it you make sense.

I'm just looking I'm just looking at at the at the thirty two and a half vertical ten four, broad's okay? On that. The three cone was six to five seven. I'm not saying he doesn't have bus potential, No, no, I uh six five seven, Yeah, that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous for a guy that size. I mean, what would qut have in a three cone? Do you have that? Yeah?

Of course I had that. But he's a smaller guy, right, Yeah, should be trying to make here, and I have no idea what he ran so qut was he ran four as official was four four three Cot was three. Okay, Yeah for a Suddon, a guy that's you know, thirty pounds, bigger, taller, just play that way then yeah, well, and that's again, I don't think it's an athletic thing. I think it's a route thing and just him being comfortable running a full route tree getting the most at the top of

routes at the stem. It's something I think he's capable. He has bus potential. There's no question we both agree there. So you're on the on the forty, you're okay with that because you're okay because of the three cone and the shuttle numbers right exactly. That gives me hope that he's not a bad He's not a bad athlete. He just needs to be more polished. This is this is a goal. I mean, the combine's over for us for

all intents and purposes. I know there's still a few more days, but the goal not And it's not just Lakwan Treadwell Brian, But like what we watched from this team, you know Dez Bryant's problem. You know, route running is in two for these receivers. Sure, and I think that that scares you a little bit. It scares me. That's I haven't paid a lick of attention to these big receivers this entire process because I don't want them. But it's not about what I want. And that's so you know, no, no,

it's a priority. It's a big priority for me to figure out. I just a Cowboys feeling. I'm just thinking about the National Football League and in separation overall. Here here, let's talk about you know, Aggie's your muffs. Christian Kirk or his agility numbers. Christian Kirk was seven oh nine in the three cone, four to five five in the twenty shuttle twelve O three in the sixty twelve O three. That is not good. That's almost a full second. Yeah. But his you know, his ten yard, his ten yard

was one five four. It's great. But for a slow receiver, I mean, it's getting off it's the it's getting off the line. Sure, and that's great, but again that's not translating into at the top of the route. Uh. And that's Christian Kirk did not have a good day playing simple. Uh. Now he has good tape, but he now I have a good day. He not tests like we expected unfortunately for him. Yeah, I just like I said, I just I'm not trying to be I look at a guy, a big guy that runs a four to five five,

I'm like, Okay, is he gonna get faster? But yeah, the shuttle numbers and all that, And again, folks, I am not bashing on smun I'm not trying to bash on uh you know, the big receivers and all that. I just I worry about a little bit. But we'll see. He has must potential. We'll see. We'll see about that, Okay. Anybody else though, Michael Gallup, I kinda I saw him. Any I'm looking at second round guys. I'm looking about potential guys. Maybe for the cow was at fifty, you know, Yeah,

is sudden better he suddenly go in the first round. Yeah, he's probably now with the way you've described him, stuff like, he's probably gone before fifty. Is Gallop gone before fifty? I don't think so know. But he had a good day to day with a four or five one official in the forty night, which is a good number for him, as six nine five in the three cone, four three seven in the twenty shuttle and then eleven eighty four

in the sixty. Yeah, and you know who I thought I had a really good day was Deon Kane h Clemson, Clemson. We got some off the field stuff with Deon Kane um more injury stuff. But he has some off field stuff too, but younger when he was younger, So I don't I'm not sure how much of a concern it is now. But if you read off his number, yeah, eight three quarters hands the first thing I noticed it

shows because he has a lot of drops. Yeah, four four three and the forty official U thirty three and a half of the vert, ninety seven on the broad six seven one in the three cone, four three seven in the twenty shuttle, and eleven seventy eight in the sixty Shuttle. Numbers are just kind of there. Yeah. But but when you talk about catching the football and stuff today, I don't think that was terrible. I don't disagree with you on that. Yeah, the film is up and down.

The drops were you a little bit, But just as a a size, speed, strength type of receiver. That's the type of guy that you look at on day two and you want to develop him and turn him into something. So Deon Keane's a name to remember for a day two target, Day two targets for sure? There all right, then, uh, just gonna again kind of going, is there anybody else though? David? Down there? They kind of caught your eye a little

bit that you that you were interested. I know you're on Jerry Jones duty today, so it's probably a little unfair for you to, oh, well, I'll actually you know, well, I mean Gallup is a guy you know, as always, I think of this in terms of the Cowboys, So I mean, you know, you got your options at nineteen and then I'm always looking for fallback options, which is right. So Gallup is a guy that has always stood out

to me. Dane always tells me he's not a not a chance at eighty one, which you know, so I'm it's fifty reasonable. And then another guy I think, I actually this might have been a Twitter question, but I don't care. Another guy. You know, I just said I haven't paid enough attention to Sutton sat Brown. Another guy that falls in that category for me is Pedis. Yeah, he didn't work out today, so yeah, that was kind of a situation. But I'll tell you what. Let me

let me throw one at you. Then David, let me throw another one. Petis Dana and enlighten me on Dylan Cantrell from Texas Tech. Okay, and and you know, and I initially then when I asked you this, initially I think it was you said kind of an h kind of an That's how I graded him when I watched this film, I thought he was a kind of a hybrid receiver Texas Tech. Yeah, six two seven, two twenty six.

Now what's interesting about him? As the official time is four five nine, yeah, in the forty, but then you flip him on the on the on the athletic stuff thirty eight yeah, thirty eight and a half vertical, ten ten broad jump, six five six in the three comb, four h three in the twenty shuttle and ten eight

five in the sixty shuttle. This is now, I gotta go watch tape on Dylan can triss for a player at six three, two hundred twenty seven pounds, right, he crushed it, right, And you're gonna watch his tape and you're gonna see a lot of sideline throws? Is it gonna be the same thing as like watching Sutton play at SMU A little bit with it's kind of screens, very very limited route tre a lot of comebacks, yeah, come back heavy in that offense. It sounds like you're

talking about Jaman Moore. Uh yeah, kind of a little bit with the way the offense is set up and the routes he's asked to run. But he's very efficient, strong ball skills. He's used to making catches with a receipt with the defender on his hip, so he can Separation is gonna be a little bit of an issue, but yeah, but he wasn't asked to run you know, the sophisticated routes where he could really show that. I don't think he wasn't coached up in that way. Yeah,

it was. It was just you know, simple comebacks where it's just timing with him in the quarterback where but he did a nice job on those because he wins fifty fifty balls with the strong ball skills, he uses his body to shield defenders from the ball. Uh. He's a one speed guy. You know, you see him down

the field and there's just there's one gear. But he does have that short area quickness, which I didn't think he'd put up these numbers, but uh yeah, Dylan controls one of my He's a favorite Day three target as kind of an h back wide receiver hybrid type of role. Let me ask you this, and I'm not saying this because I'm comparing a white wide receiver to a white

wide receiver. But is this guy? Is this guy? I mean, I think Jordy Nelson was quicker, But is it the same kind of guy, the fifty fifty ball winner, the guy that has the quickness, the guy that has some lateral ability? I mean, is that hell of a comparison. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Again, I'm not trying to compare. I'm not just because he's a white wide receiver. I'm just sales beast though. Yeah. And second round pick from Kansas State though too as well. But pick the number running.

That's what I'm saying, though. If this guy's catching fifty fifty balls, but has he maybe it's a bad comparison. Maybe, But I'm just thinking about it. I kind of think of Jordy Nelson being that guy that's kind of got that the that the quickness and the you know, the ability, the route running where he you know, can get a little bit, can get open and stuff like that. Maybe

it's a maybe it's a really bad Ray Nelson. He's so savvy and he's so he has such a great understanding of how to break down the defender to create that separation. I don't think Cantrell's there yet. He's just you know, in the Texas Tech offense. Three guys for sure right day three. Maybe these times will change that. But that's the great eye gave him. Yeah, Okay, well, I'm just I haven't seen the player. That's why I'm

asking about the game. And you know, I like him best as kind of an H back hybrid, where you know, line him up in the backfield, let him run rounds out of the backfield, put him in the slot, try him in line, see what he can do. I think there's some versatility here where he can play outside. He was the Z receiver in that Texas Tech offense. He can do some things, though. I want to he'd be a guy I want to bring my facility, work him out, see what you could do with him. If versatility I

think he has. If he can work out that way, that's a guy that I would look to target at some point on day three. Okay, I'm looking at Ken Garrison right now, ken, Am I good to break this thing off? Okay, I could still ramble on for days, but I'll probably I will break this thing off when we come back. We'll hit your question squid on the twenty. Stay tu. It can be hard to find the right

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forget what I gotta get. I gotta we gotta get everything we can add it before we lose you one of these teams. But what do you got? Um? So, Josie Jewel linebacker, I got we talked about had a formal meeting with the Cowboys. There you go. We know this team is gonna be looking at linebackers. Jewel, Wait and see what happens when Andy Anthony hitchins. But yeah, we know this team will be looking at linebackers. And Josie Jewel he uh, he's your prototypical mic. Yeah. The

instincts are off the charts. The athleticisms okay, not bad, not great. Uh, He's not on Sean Lee's level. But you see some Sean Lee in his game. You see a lot of good tackling space. Yeah. White, the white comparison. But you do see that, right, It's it's the instinct that's why you draw comp play develop he can diagnose, he go uh for a big guy, he kind of gets through cracks. He does and he runs through and

gets the athlete not at all. You put him up against Seaquon Barkley one on one and he but but he struggled, but but everyone but kind of give everybody. You don't think the numbers are going to be off the chart tomorrow, No, No, it's just gonna be a it's gonna be a steady workout. Yeah, yeah, right, and so tape is better than the workout. It's gonna be right, Yeah, I think so. I think some of the short area

he might do better than people expect. For the forty probably won't be great, um, but he's a guy three. I think we had him at yeah one time at number at pick number fifty, Josie Jewel. He's another guy should be on the short list, a linebacker that can come in and contribute right away. So we didn't get a scene at the Senior Bowl. He was getting over a sickness then. But he's a guy to keep on the radar because the Cowboys are keep the Hawkeye traditional.

So David take this show over right now. Wow, Yeah, I completely forgot about that. I was so engrossed in the wide receiver conversation. Um, I mean didn't forget. I got a questions you do? Um? Which, all right, well, let's start and we covered so much wide receiver. Um. Any tight end questions exactly? Eric wants to know about tight ends that may be climbing into the first round. And a follow up because we got a lot of question about your favorite Nittany Lyon. Uh, Mike Jick right

about him? Uh, Matt wants to know if he's a consideration at fifties. Talk to me, talk to me about first round possibilities for tight ends, not not necessarily for the Cowboys, just in general. Yeah. And then also, what mister Secki did we start with real quick? Yeah, Bran, let me ask you this question, but are the Cowboys do it? Are the Cowboys? Are they creative enough to use a talent? The answer is probably not. Just because creative is the question, the answers probably know. He's not

your traditional in line tight end. That's not how we should be used. He's basically an oversized receiver. Right, and he's a guy that we know can go up and get the ball. He had what forty one and a half invert today? Uh four or five four and the forty yard dat. He's basically a supersized receiver. That's how he should be used. And I want to see him in the backfield. I want to see him the slot. I want to see him all over the formation. That's

how we should be used. Would the Cowboys consider a player like that when traditionally they don't haven't been open minded to a guy like that. I'll tell you what, though, they drafted a guy like that, To be honest him, Yeah, to be honest with you, I wish they would. I wish this guy would they've drafted fifty two or years ago, or three years ago or four years ago. That's this is the guy they needed to pick in the second round when they were trying to to draft all those

tight end. Yeah, this was the guy they needed that needed to be on the board. Not not Gavin Escobar. I'm sorry Gavin Escobar if you're watching from San Diego, California or something like that, but yeah, this this is the guy that needed to be the one that was selected. Anything under a seven and a three cone for a tight end is fantastic. And he had a six seven six yeah, and a yeah short shuttle of four one h number and six yeah, ten nine actually ten nine

brought forty one and a half on the vertical. Great numbers, Oh my gosh, I mean tweet. But again, the guy will not block. He'll try, he'll try, but he will not. I mean, it's it's tough, it is. There's some there's some like huh huh some of that to him, And man, I like that. I don't put that in the sky refore. Yeah, just do it when you're typing it go huh okay like that darn he got past me. Yeah, but no, I mean, I like you always laugh about my Will Disley,

who is like a terrible athlete. He's the topposite of the exactly as a blocker. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying though. This is but we can figure out a way to combine the two. We don't need any more. Yeah, you got the perfect time, absolutely, and uh, I'll get

into one more guy too, Hayden Hurst. You brought that up yesterday and uh, you know, we had an interesting conversation at dinner last night about that, you know, and and the table, the table seemed to feel like that, you know when you asked me about the yips and I was like, uh, I'll take the gag on the table turned against me last night. You guys just jumped on me like I'd never take that guy? Are you kidding me? And you know I'm still staying. Hey, Nurst

tight end he did actually did pretty well today. Four six seven is the official time ten foot broad Uh, seven one nine in your twenty shuttle, four three seven in the short Excuse me, uh when I say that? Seven one nine in the three cone, three four three seven in the short shuttle, twelve fifteen in the sixty show average numbers for a tight end and Dallas Goddard did not work out, did not work on that hamstring

and bowl. But these tight ends, and I tell you they all caught the ball well too, though it did I thought they did galla drills everything about that and a good day Oklahoma. Yeah, Ian Thomas from Indiana, Pete Prisco's guy. He came over and wore you and I out. We're trying to watch and Prisco sits down and my favorite guy is you know, I'm like, Okay, thanks, I've

said this. I if the Cowboys want to tight end in this draft Ian Thomas in the third round, Thomas, that's who I would want them to because he doesn't need to produce from day one. He's a guy that you can grow into a starter. And we're not shocking me at all. Five years from now we talking about Ian Thomas as the best head end from this group. I'll tell you what, I don't disagree with you there. Where are you putting these guys? As always? That's what

I care about. Goddard I think is in the late first. Hayden Hurst could get in the late first as well. Uh with it again with Hurst, there's so many variables that teams are talking about. Mark Andrews. By the way, you're talking about the age, you talk about the yips, you talk about just what is he going to? Where is he fit in the offense. Guys the table hate the yips. It's just part of the equation. You know, think of a math equation for a player for Hayden Hurst,

and it's just part of the equation. But no, Mark Andrews um from Oklahoma basically a slot receiver in Oklahoma's offense. Yeah, but he has the size and the skill said of an inline guy. He's gonna have to, you know, adjust to a blocking role and that's not going to just happen overnight. But his time to tie, his time tied

with a Hurst six seven. Yeah, so you had actually Jalen Samuels from North Carolina State had the four to five four And he's not really a tight end anymore of your h back got to do everything guy, But that guy Virginia Tech did. Everybody tried, Bucky Bucky Hodges, that guy as a man without a position. Yeah, just just I'm no disrespect to Penn State or the Nitney Lions or mister Gasecki. Just keep him, keep him away

from me. How about them on this team? No, no, no, It's got nothing to do with him as a player. It's a wasted draft pick. It's a wasted draft pick. Like the way they like to play and the fact that Jason Witten is still playing. You talk about you're not scared of the Lakwan Treadwell hangover. I got a big time hangover from Gavin Escobarka because that's a top fifty pick that played like what felt like half a

dozen snaps in his career. That's a fair point. I'm you know, if you if you want to spend a pick on a mid round guy that you think might develop, and you need a tight end and you need special teamers anyway, fine, I'm not trying to spend a premium pick on a tight end until you think people would just go nuts at fifty if they hit one of these tights. No, I don't think people will go nuts.

I think there's a lot of people that would like that, But me personally, I'm not worrying about that until Jason Witten has decided to retire, because until then, I think it's a waste of a research. If they let me ask you this, if they don't take somebody other than uh say Andrews, just Sicky or god or Goderd I would say his name around, Godard, Godard, Goddard. If they don't take one of those three, is it a wasted pick? No? I mean, like I said, fifty, there's really only Well Goddard, Hurst,

Andrew's Kiseki. Yeah, uh possibilities at fifty. Um, you know, one of those four I think probably gone. But they will take one of those four, then you would kind of consider Ian Thomas, that'd be too early for him. Yeah, I think he's a third run player. Can I get Ian Thomas at one sixteen? I don't think so. Me personally, that's I don't want to eighty one. I'm not trying to draft the tight end until okay three me which, Hey, nobody cares about my opinion. If I'm looking forward guy.

If I'm looking for a guy in day three and he passes the medicals, Chris Herndon from Miami, Uh, yeah, that's a guy I need to watch. Yeah, Chris Herndon. Absolutely, he did not work out today twenty one times. The weights he is, I need to watch him six o three six o three six two fifty three. He's got thirty two and seven eight psalms nine and a quarter hands. But yeah, I've seen him on some flash tape. You know when when you watch the tape, he's one of

those guys like, oh, who's that. He's a good player, who's uber twenty three? Right, But again, yeah number twenty three. But the knee late in the year. We just what the medical staff says. But again, if you can get him in the fourth and fifth round because of that, again, kind of Dave was saying, you don't need your tight end for the season opener, right, you know, I mean he's a guy you project forward. The medical staff says, yeah, he just needs to rehab and he'll be, you know,

just as good as new. Right. Yeah, he's a player in the fourth round, fifth round, you look out. Uh. Dane mentioned this guy yesterday. He actually called him a Jarvis Landry clone. So that's Luise. Luis wants to know, you know, he says that we really aren't talking about Trey Quinn. Wants to know why that is. And and I guess just more about him and what you think about him Patriots is the right, is that our Pots guy to have a Patriots visit, which is like the

most predictable thing ever. I think he's a Jarvis Landry type of player where the speed's nothing. That's really five five, my friend, right, And even on the field, I don't know if he runs that fast. Yeah, And so he's he's not the fastest guy, but he's his nice job of breaking off routes and giving his quarterback a target. Uh, he's very sure hands, strong hands. Uh, he can do a little bit after the catch. Not a game breaker, but he's just not not just a possession guy either.

Use him over the middle where he can find space exposed zones, and that's what he does best. That's what Jarvis Landry does best. And I think that's what this guy can do. Uh So he's a good player, just another one of these wide receivers in a loaded wide receiver class, which for one nine on your twenty shuttle.

By the way, if you care, I pretty good. You know you kind of you have these subconscious or not even subconscious, but you kind of lean certain ways because I don't see Trey Quinn fitting what the Cowboys are looking for. Two guys on this that you have, you have Cole Beasley and you have Ryan Switzer, right, Um, I just would imagine the Cowboys, if they draft the receiver, are looking more for a guy that's going to play outside. So if we're not talking about him, that's probably why

uh vaughan, uh you know, poorly kept secret. But Jerry Jones just kind of threw it out there for us today that the Cowboys are going to take a look at Byron Jones as a cornerback this year. Kind of figured. But it's nice to have somebody important say it for sure? Yeah, um so Vaughn wants to know, you know what, what's your plan at safety in light of that, I mean, if that is officially true. Now I'm taking that at face value. Byron's at least going to start the year

out at cornerback. Pretty damn thin at safety. Um So I'm sitting here thinking not. I mean, it's probably a free agency need, like whether that's you know, a big hey, whether it's a whether it's a big name or just a body, I don't know, but I would imagine you got to sign one. But then in the draft, I think. I mean, that's why I've been, you know, talked so much about Derwin James. It seems like something that they would be smart to invest in in the first, you know,

three rounds. What do you think you think? I mean, if you're the first, I said, I said this off the air today, as in love with DJ Moore, as I am, I would rather like, I'll I'll trade up to get Derwin James and forfeit my fiftieth pick over. Like if you told me I could have DJ Moore at nineteen, I'd still go after Derwin James at like twelve or whatever. I just I think would be dope. Um, Sorry, what was your question other than that, I think I mean because no, I think we agree Derwin James in

the first probably in a trade up option. If you're gonna honestly, if you're gonna make if you're gonna draft a guy that's gonna make an impact immediately, like be good enough to push for a starting job immediately, it's probably gonna be by pick fifty. Yeah, because he I mean, JJ Wilcox was pick seventy. I think he was pick eighty, which is one pick before they picked this year in the third and he got on the field as a rookie, but he certainly wasn't a difference maker as a rookie.

I'm just looking at the ways because Dane always likes to talk about safeties that are over two hundred pounds, you know, and I know our guy Golden from Tennessee measured in a one ninety seven, right, But I'm looking at these other guys, the guys that could actually play. You know, people ask us a lot about Deshaun Elliott. He was two ten. They have Meeka Fitzpatrick at two oh four. They have him working with the safeties By the way, here at the combine U we've talked about

let's see some of the guys. Derwin James, you mean him, he was two hundred and fifteen pounds, you know when you and that's kind of what you think. Justin Reid was a guy. A lot of people ask us about Justin Reid from Stanford. He was two o seven. But you know Monty Watts Texas A and M two o two uh Kaiser Kaiser white to eighteen and then your guy, Jordan Whitehead came in in one hundred and ninety eight.

Good number for him. So yeah, I mean it's ah if you're looking for that guy, Jesse Bates, Jesse Bates, I was. I went too far down the list. I'm sorry about that day. Jesse Bates came in at two hundred pounds on the dot. There you go, uh one, sure he was going to reach two fifth or two hundred. So yeah, good good day. Did Yeah. You know this safety class, we both love our Shawn Golden right, Um, but is he a true free safety or is he

best as a Nichol? I mean I think he can do it, but you know who I compared him too, right, Yeah, Malcolm Jenkins, and I think that's a I like the comparison a lot. I think it makes sense. Um, I just compare him because I saw Malcolm Jenkins play at Ohio State at corner and now he covers in the slot. Now he cover, he covers tight ends. He carries the physical player of a versatile, versatile guy. And I think this.

I think this guy could be a versatil player. I agree that's what they're looking for, and they're looking for a versatile guy once again. I'm very good. If they move Byron Jones, they better find somebody back there. It does have a little versatility that could play deep, It could play whatever they have to do. I'm sure that they can find a way to say, okay, even though we're gonna play Byron Jones. I wonder if Byron Jones is if they're gonna make this move, is Byron Jones

gonna start at right corner? Why would you make this move if he wasn't gonna start? Oh No, I mean that's what I that's the question I have. I think the hope would be that he starts, well, as you gonna start with Lewis, because Lewis is your right corner. I mean, if we're reading Tea leaves here, I don't have a press release that tells me that. No, I know that, I know that. But if Byron Jones, are you moving him to be a backup? If I had to guess, I think they're preferred. Star three would be

Byron Cheeto and Jordan Lewis. Lewis and the slot and Scandrick. I'm sorry, you're so then you're thinking it okay, You're okay, and in like Xavier Woods is now, you're just your straight safety and not playing in the slot anymore. That would be the goal. I mean, if he's up to it, then yes, I mean yeah, if if they could, if you could guarantee them that that Xavier Woods is good enough to start, they'd probably be elated. And and Jerry Jones had some nice things to say about Cavan Frasier

and Xavier Woods today. But you can't go into a season just hoping that that pans out for you, David. And then we have just five minutes or so, maybe a little more time than we can. I think that we're okay. Talk about with Jerry Jones today though, talk about what you learned on the bus today of this afternoon from the combine I did and stuff all but it's gonna be on Dallas Cowboys dot com. We talked

about Byron moving. I mean, there's there's so much stuff about Dez that you can go read on the website if you need more updates on that. Um, the big thing that you know, for the draft show. I just love Tier and Jerry talk about how wide open this thing is. Actually this plays into another Twitter question we got from Paper a guy named Peyton, which will just he said, if you're gonna double dip again in this draft like you did at cornerback last year, where would

you do it? And to that point, I just thought it was great how Jerry was saying, you know, I don't obviously every team has needs, but I don't think the Cowboys have that glaring need that's like, oh my god, we absolutely have to address that. I mean, at the end of the day, this is not a bad roster and I think, you know, I think they realized that. And Jerry basically said, you know, if if if a

cornerback's the best option, we could draft a cornerback. We're we have enough picks and we have a good enough roster that we can do things like that to solidify our team, whether that means drafting cornerback best player available. Also, he noted that you can trade compensatory picks. I don't think the Cowboys are going to be afraid to move around in this draft if they think they need to go.

That's good news for fan. You know, Like I said, you know, in recent years you've kind of been able to peg a strategy because like they don't have any pass rushers or they're letting their secondary go. Like they needed to draft defensive backs last year in order to field a team this year not so much. So it's fascinating to think that there's really no direction that I don't think they could go in. Did you even the

idea the tender on David Irving? Uh, he said that they're going to talk to that they want David back on the team. But um he he said, they're not gonna divulge it at all, which at some point they have to. But uh, they have not revealed which round they want to put on him yet. Okay, letter one or two, let's talk about two. Something that we saw today late in the day was Shaquille Griffin and the bench press Shakim Shakim, excuse me, brother, Yeah, Griffin, uh

talk about that today. So that was something you know, I mean we uh the time use the prosthetic. Yeah, on the bench. It's amazing reps, really impressive. You know, it's it's just as you know, we we can't out how much energy energy thinks anything he's doing. It's really he's really impressive person. It's any impressive player and that's why you know you fell in love with them. Yeah, yeah, you know what final way to get him on the team and he'll make a contribution, you know, helped our

team win a football game. So yeah, eager to see on the morrow and drill see how he does. I'm expecting a big day for him. Yeah. It seems like wherever we go, he's one of the big stories and he deserves it with everything that he's overcome and he continues to play at a high level and compete at a high level. Measured in at six zero zero three two twenty seven thirty two and an eighth on the

arms and nine on the hand. Here's a fun thought for you, Brian Um which unfortunately he's such a he's such a great guy and I by the way, I did one more Repp than Tremaine Edmonds. That's amazing. That's six more rips in Orlando Brown. It's Yeah. I think a lot of teams are gonna feel this way because he's such you know, he's such a great guy. Great guy, but hey, good football player too. You always talk about how confidently you can draft when your GM's the owner

of the team. Right, He's he's the proverbial right kind of guy. He's got the good enough tape to justify a draft spot. And you're talking about a team that has supreme confidence in its decisions because the general manager owns the teams. Certainly wouldn't. I mean, I can very easily talk myself into the Cowboys falling in love with this guy, not you know, not as they're starting Mike, but as they got ten picks. Yeah, well they're not if they're if they're hunting wide receivers and Dames give

you the nugget earlier, they're probably hunting linebackers too. They need to be. Yeah, and then tomorrow is which that day for the linebacker? Uh? You know, I really liked that question from Peyton. Yeah, I think I'd probably double up on linebacker in this draft. Um, if you know, if I'm the Boys, I don't what do you think I think if you could find it, Yeah, you're gonna it's when you're when you're double in the compensatory start. That's fourth round, fourth or fourth. They picked twice in

the fourth and twice in the fifth. Yeah, so maybe maybe you double up in the fourth on those linebackers would be the ideal. Probably not gonna get it, ends on who's there to You know, you could convince me to pick a linebacker at nineteen if the right one was there, I would try to pick one with a premium pick, like first, second or third round, and then

I would try to find a special team's type. Shakeene Griffin, guy on you know late on Day three, we're gonna get a lot of numbers this week and all that. You can't put a number on what he brings to a locker room. Sure that is something in itself. Jason Garrett's gonna fall in love with that. Yeah, you introduced him to the locker room and it's gonna be a better locker room for it. Now, you don't draft him just because of that, right, or you don't overdraft him.

You watching the tape and he's making play. That's what you draft him for. But when you know in the fourth round, when maybe there's some other there's a good wide receiver, you like, there's this, that might be the difference why you take a player like that because of what he brings the locker room. The intangibles. Uh, that him setting that type of example of playing with that heart and passion that rubs off on the rest of the team and that'll play well in the locker room

as well. So that's something that we won't have a number four, but is should be heavily considered in the draft process. Guys, as we leave Indianapolis for another year, just uh, kind of give me a thought or two about things you've heard, things you've seen, things you didn't expect, something you did expect. Just something that can kind of just like I say, put a bow on our time here this week. As we spent well, we expected, say,

Quen Barkley to perform really well, and he did. And the great thing is is we still have plenty more positions to go. We haven't seen the defensive yet, right, no defensive player has tested yet except for the bench press Saturday Monday. For that today. Harrison Phillips forty two in the bench for US, right a Va forty one too ridiculous numbers, great numbers for both, but I'm eager to see fiative. I think he's gonna put on a

show some of these corners. Denzel Ward came in basically five eleven, five ten and seven eighths, good length, longer arms, and Josh Jackson, so the size is not a worry for me. With Denzel Ward, he came in much bigger than we expected, sure, and I think he's gonna run in the fourth threes. M Dante Jackson LSU he might run in the four twos. So we have plenty of guys who we have plenty of workout warriors so far. We're gonna have more the next two days with a

defensive linemen and linebackers and then a defensive back. So it's been a fun week doing the offense. Still a lot more to go to the defense, David uh even even including the year when they were picking fourth overall, I've never I've never been more intrigued by, like all the possibilities that lay in front of this team, and like from from evaluating draft guys, getting a closer look at him here, and then talking to team of I think this is going to be the most interesting spring

that we've seen here in a while. And I'm not I'm not saying that, like, you know, they're gonna sign all these crazy deals and like pull a Giants and go spend two hundred million dollars in free agency. That's not what I'm saying. But there's just stuff this team is going to have to do in the next month, whether that's Dez Bryant, whether that's filling some holes in free agency. The Zach Martin and DeMarcus Lawrence and David Irving contract situations are all hanging out there and they

have to get resolved, probably sooner rather than later. And then you've got ten picks in the draft. And like I said, I mean, yes, every team has holes, but the holes on this team are not as glaring as they have been in the past. So one way or another, I think you can really significantly improve this team by drafting well this year. And so you know, starting when we get back and going until when the draft's over.

Like I said, I think it's going to be about as active and interesting at two months as we've had here in the last you know, in the time that I've covered the team, I really think that Jerry Jones said, the Philadelphi Eagles winning the Super super Bowl clearly raised the bar, yeah for this football team, and I think you're going to see a sense of urgency from this team. I think that now. It's all the things that Dave and Dane have said about this team, whether it's the draft,

free agency, des Brian stuff. That Philadelphi Eagles winning this championship did. It got a lot of people's attention in that front office. So again, they're gonna have to have an outstanding draft. They're gonna have to make some decisions on free agency, and if they bottom fish on some free agents, they better find a way not to miss

on those guys. That's when things the Philadelphi Eagles were very good at last year as they hit on some of those guys, and the Cowboys can't afford to miss got some dead money in that category right now, and they don't need to have any of that anymore. So it should be an interesting season. As as we head along, we're running out of days, we're getting close to the draft. Thanks for everybody hanging out with us. While we're here in Indie Naples. Thanks for all the questions the tweets,

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