Draft Show: LIVE @ 2018 NFL Combine - Day 2

Brian brought us Dame Brugler, David Hellman, King Garrison, Executive Producing. Well, guys, John Dorsey told you today you can have the number one pick of the draft if you like. Quekel Brown's opened up to open up to trading for They said that if they're open for business. No, I can't convince you guys going up there again, you have everybody loves the conversations we have when when you try to convince us, I try to give here, I why not go ahead

and going up to the number one. John Dorsey did what our general manager should do, and that he makes it known that the phone lines are open, but that does not mean they're willing to deal by any means. You don't think no, I mean, you say it and if someone blows you away, but someone's got to blow you away, Okay, you guys, you guys can't come up with something to blow them away. Four guards and oh

I'm trying. Yesterday we get discussion quarter No, no, I'm trying to talk about we were talking about Zach Martin yesterday. I can't think of a worst draft to go up to number one unless you need a quarterback. That's the point I was trying to get you to say, right there, David Helen, there you go, Yeah, thank you. I was trying to go a little bit around about away about saying this though, but you know, you know, and I hate when you say it's a bad draft. I hate

when people say that though. It's not a bad draft. It's not a bad drap. No, it's just the we don't have a lot of blue chippers. It's a bad fund, that's what you know. But we're learning that today about some guys. Today was really the first day that tomorrow the on the field stuff will happen. The actual physical testing, uh, you know with the forties and the shuttles and all those things. You'll see that tomorrow on the various platforms in NFL network, I believe has that for you coverage,

so you can take care of that. But today we did see the bench press stuff. And what was interesting today is the guys that we kind of thought about, the guys that we've talked the most about, the Quinton Nelson's of the world and stuff like that. Barkley, you know, Sequon Barkley. Yeah, it's it's like those guys we say, oh, not a lot of not a lot of spice, you know, through this thing in the top. But it seems like the guys that people are looking at studying hard, those

guys are kind of rising to the occasion. One thing to say about the bench press that needs to be said, Uh, while yes it does measure strength, a lot of teams use it more as a way to gauge a player's work ethic. How much do they push themselves in the weight room. I think that that's more of a reflective than just you know, because a guy could be strong

on the field and that doesn't necessarily translate the weight room. Right, So I think what the bench press does here is show teams, Okay, what guys really pushed themselves in the weight room. Uh, they maxed themselves out. And you know we saw today a guy we expected to Will Hernandez put up thirty seven reps on the bench, which is the most so far, and sae Quon Barkley at twenty nine. Yeah,

I've said it. I think I've done so many interviews around here, and every single interview I've said, they're going to rename this place after sae Quon Barkley after he's done with it. Two hundred and thirty three pounds put up the bench twenty nine times, and once we get to the athletic testing tomorrow, he's gonna blow that up as well. Only five offensive lineman had better numbers on

the bench press than uh, Saquon Barkley did. Silly, that's just that's saying something just how much he works at it and of course how powerful he is. You surprised at all. I mean, okay, if you talk about work ethic and all that, and I'm a guy that's come on this show, and I know it's a down the line guy, but a guy that you talked very highly.

You know, Smith the guard from Braydon, Smith from Auburn, and I you know, if you when you like you talked about I see a guy that plays weak on tape, but then you get yeah, yeah, you see second behind see so all of a sudden, now you talk about work ethic and all that, I didn't see a guy that played that strong. So to me, that's that's one of those things where you know, a guy, in my eyes, helped himself a little bit there if you're looking for that down the line type of guy. You know, all

was saying like, I doesn't play strong. Well the tape tape shows that at a time, but at least in the back of my mind, I'm thinking like, well, he didn't come here and do ten reps. Yeah, yeah, you know, it was something like okay, maybe he's had a little concerned and you know, I think a lot of people today, if you want to talk about it was not only some work, you know, prove it work wise, but how

about prove it you know? In words with Penny the running back from yeah, from Sanao State, and he admitted that he's a poor pass blocker. Now, I mean that's really the main question with him. Yeah, what what you know, what the what are the questions about all these guys? You know, And that's what The combine is so great because it kind of gives you a little bit of an idea, you know. He he Penny knows what he

has to work on well. And I love his response about pass protection is he said he's not going to hide from it. He understands that's a weakness right now, and he said, I'm not ashamed to admit my flaws, and so he understands that's and that's key because all these players have something wrong. I mean, all these players have weaknesses, but the smart ones recognize it and they're

willing to work at it. It's not everyone does. It's the scouts job to have an idea what those weaknesses might be and see if those guys are willing to do what it takes to correct him. And it's the job of the player to self scout and understand, Okay, what do I need to work on? Uh? And I think we're shy Penny. He understands he's not the best pass protector and showed it on tape. We oh no, we documented that we love the player and absolutely get to the pass protection reps on tape and you just

oh no, oh no, not again. Yeah, it just over and over, Yeah, it makes like a great catch or a great run, long run against somebody, and then all of a sudden, you go, oh, wait, here's the pass protection part. And he's two hundred and twenty pounds and he's athletic, so I think he can do it. I think he get better. But it makes me feel better about him long term that he understands it and he

wants to work at it. I'm thinking about though as you go forward here though, and again we get into the workout part of it tomorrow, and we've kind of documented some guys that didn't need to have some good days. But I'll talk about a guy that didn't bench today, was Win like Georgia Guard Isaiah Win. And now all of a sudden you're like, okay, why did he not bench? Well, he had some shoulders. He had the shoulder surgery rapped the Senior Bowl, so okay. After the Senior yeah he was.

He practiced all Senior Bowl week with it, so um my god, he'll yeah, he's a bomb players man. He'll he'll lift at the Pro Day and you know, all will be fine. I speaking of, you know, injuries and stuff. Billy Price. Billy Price one of the top centers in his draft, probably the second best center in the in the draft. It'll probably be number one for some teams at center. You know, take Daniels, you're a fool. This is a guy who has shorter arms, thirty two inch arms. Yeah,

Billy belly to belly blocker. That's what he is. Let's school. Plus he's very strong, so I think he would have hit forty on the bench press today. But after three reps he kind of flinched a little bit, came back down. They took the bar off him, motioned to his left shoulders, rubbed it a little bit and said, no, I'm done. And so we're waiting word on what the know, the severity of the injury. Is it something that we have to worry about long term. I don't think it was

a terror. I'm no doctor. I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't think it was a terror though, just based on his reaction. If there's a tear, I think we'd hear some serious screaming going exactly. I think it was more of just a tweak, a sprain, something that hopefully strain. Hopefully hopefully he's still able to work out, you know, this week, but just something to note with Billy Price, a very good player, a chance to be a first round pick who unfortunately the bench press uh

did not go so well for him. You know, it's just kind of going through your and you're right, it's unfortunate that that that that that did that did happen, because again, you want to you didn't want an these kids to get injured. That's really the last thing that

you want to have happened. I mean, you want them to come to the combine and be able to show you know, what they're you know, and you like the fact that they're going to compete, you know, I mean the talent that right, It sucks when somebody gets hurt doing Can can I talk about these offensive lineman and I and I brought up Daniels, James Daniels. Can we talk about him as a potential pick at nineteen? Again

it's a guard I'm just right. But if you don't like, if you don't want to take win, if you don't want to take Win, and you don't want to take Hernandez, and do you does James Daniel should he be in that mix? So you know, Jason, excuse me, Stephen Jones said, you know, hey, if it's a potentially as Zach Martin kind of you know this this guy to me, yeah, this that does make sense. This guy's the best center in the draft, though, But would you play him at

could you play him at guard? And feel and feel very comfortable about that at nineteen If he's the best center in the draft, I'd used to me, I would like to believe that he could do that, then Yes, it's extra appealing to me because you're probably gonna need a backup center anyway. I don't think Joe Looney's long for the Cowboys. I think he could probably get I think he could probably get a starting gig somewhere instead

of sitting behind Travis friend Rick. So a guy with the flexibility to do that, who could start a guard for you and be, you know, an immediate upgrade over what you had. Absolutely, I'm just trying to get more options now nineteen and that I was going to say too is I'm just and And it's still early, even even at the combine at this point we've done like twenty of these shows. It's still early. But I'm just starting to get this feeling like it ain't gonna be

as Alignment one technique. No, we're I'm getting this feeling like we're not going to be in love with our options at nineteen. That's what I'm starting to keep talking to you guys about moving up. That's felt that way. Last year we had a great deal and well last year it's almost expected at twenty eight. Last year we're like, oh, if we were just picking nineteen, we'll get we'll have Tack,

we'll have Charles Harris, you know. But now we're at nineteen, and it's like, I'm just I'm not in love with what it looks like our options are. Let me ask you this, though, do you think the Cowboys and I go? This is This is always one of those great dinner conversations we have last you know, like last night, you know Stephen Thomas song with us joining us, and you know, we have these conversations all the time about a dinner about hey, do you stay there, do you move? Do

you go back? Do you I mean, there's so many arguments about going up going back, but again you kind of just put you know, you kind of said it. You don't feel great about potentially your options. But see, first of all, we're not in control of whether or not they trade up or down anyway, that's gonna be the board and your willingness to give up your assets.

But what we can do is turn over every stone to try to come up with some stuff we let And that's, you know, a similar conversation something you know we haven't touched on the receivers. Oh, I was about to go to that D about the DJ bore for you. Our campaign, our guy DJ Moore comes in its six foot today, which is two inches taller than that. You had to take that scout across the street that measured that and take him to take him saint almost for

a steak. Seriously, he helped him there, helped him. Maryland listed him at five eleven. Yeah, so it's not like which honestly, that's shocking to me because college is loved to lie about their prospects and my guess is that they measured him as a freshman and then they probably just didn't enough to date the last three years because he was a junior. It left early. But yeah, him coming in at six foot, that's that's a huge win

for DJ. Oh well yeah, okay, yeah, we were the height way we had coming in five o nine six, two fifteen so he comes in two inches taller. My first draft forward a month ago had him these guys cheering. By the way, he's the exact same height as everybody's darling Calvin Ridley. I didn't throw that out there. Ridley's a half inch taller, but yeah, same whatever, six foot I whoever said at first I didn't believe him. I don't remember it was me. I looked over again and

I dj Moore. I was like, I don't believe you said to look for myself, and they're sure, what do you know? Six foot? And that's kind of you know, you know, I always use of it like I think of it like the old style fishing nets, like you throw a net out. I'm trying to cast my net over as many prospects. Oh, you said you're driving the train, and I'm okay with that with you driving the train. And if I don't love my options at nineteen, like

Derwin James isn't realistic, Roquan Smith might not really be realistic. Um, Calvin Ridley may be gone. So you look around and you're like, well, how can I make this more palatable? James Daniels, you could talk me into that. If you're telling me, I'm getting the best center, maybe one of the potentially a really good guard at nineteen. If you're telling me maybe DJ Moore is not a reach at nineteen, I'm listening. I'm looking for reasons to be excited about

my options. That's how I approach it. At least. Would you be okay with DJ Moore at nineteen? I would, I really would, because I got him in the first round. What I've got him and Ridley right there in the first round. I had no problem with that. What made you think not before? Like I mean, why weren't you comfortable with him? A part of that, I'll tell you what. I don't think it was so much the height is It was the fact that I'm thinking, again, now, what

are my options? Right? What are my what are my legitimate And you know, the more we do this, the more and it's not talking to people, it's the more tape. And the great advantage that Dane has, and this is why Dane's so good at his job is he'll start looking at these guys in May, and you and I will start looking at him in December, and all of a sudden we've got to catch up. It will never completely catch up. To Dane, but he's got an idea

of who's on that board. So he when he when he makes a thought or gives you a thought, and it's always it's a good thought. It's like, okay, well then who else is on the board? Now, now we're starting to see who else could be on that board. I think you hit the nail on the head with like, Okay,

I'm not so sure my options are gonna be so great? Yeah, you know, and does djo you give me a guy that's a spectacular player down the field, making plays a lot of different offense, a lot of different coaches, a lot of different quarterbacks, it still has the success he has? Yeah? Why not? And why not? You know? I'm sure somebody at home is thinking this too. It's like, well, you could trade back and get him, it's a better value. What scenario is making that possible as a quarterback? Falling

to me? Does somebody just desperately want somebody else is going to trade up and do that? I I don't know. If I go back, I go back to Dane's first mock draft and how we've looked at that and that thing got just wiped out as we went along and all of a sudden, you start doing more work on it. You're thinking like, okay, Hurst, Oh, okay, I could I'm okay with that. But then you start thinking, wait a minute, Hurst or DJ Moore, Hurst or you know you know

what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean there's other guys that I feel like that you would you would feel better about. And again, we can't eliminate Vita Vea and you know, if he was there, because he's got we talked about that, the traits about him. But at nineteen, I think what we're trying to educate people on is keep an open mind here, keep a really big open money. I'm glad you mentioned James Daniels because we talked about, Oh, he's in the mix now. For me, I made my point

clear about how you've been very been very clear. You've been very clear. I think it just generically, I think James Daniels is not a reach at the nineteenth pick um. I think he's one of the top twenty five players in this draft, the top offensive lineman, Quittin Nelson, Isaiah Wynn and then Daniels. Okay, And let's also say that when today in the interviews, said that he had met with the Cowboys. Right so again you called the Cowboys offensive line nasty? Yeah, so say yeah, so that right

there is you know the combine. You know, these players, they do a great job of You know, when you interview him, a lot of these kids will tell you, hey, I visited with the Rams, the Raiders, the Cowboys. You know, they'll name off and it seems like they can't remember all the teams. But I found that they remember the Cowboys a lot. The Cowboys is always a team that is mentioned. So kind of keep an eye on these

top players and see what they're mentioned. Matter believe I'm gonna go find DJ Moore and ask them about the Cowboys. Oh sure, you all get our chance tomorrow. Sure and with Annuals, Yes, he's the draftstop center. As a freshman, he actually started two games at guard, so he has that experience. And actually went back and watched him tape from his freshman year. Because of injury, he came in and he played right tackle a little bit. Sure is

has experienced at other positions. He's not a center only you know Billy Price. Yes, he has experienced at guard, but you feel better about him at center. Daniels. I think he has a little more versatility to play any of the three interior positions and play it at a high level. So would you feel better about for the Cowboys? For the Cowboys Hurst or Dj Moore? I know, okay, say Ridley's out of the equation. Say the Ravens take Ridley at sixteen. As much as I love DJ Moore,

I have Hirst rate to higher on my board. So I would go with the defensive tackle the three technique right me. Personally, I think the way he can impact the pocket, he can get it off the offense off schedule with that initial burst that he offers. I don't think he's that much of a liability versus to run where it's not two eighty eight. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean he's not. He looks light, but he's not. I mean he doesn't play light. No, he doesn't. And

I don't know two eighty eight to ninety. That doesn't bother me at all. I don't care about that. Just give me the one gap up the field guy, exactly, Get a guy. Give me a guy who can penetrate and really affect what's going on in the backfield, and Maurice Hurst can do that. We don't know, boy, he's disgusted with what you I'm not disgusted. No, I'm not disgusted. I wouldn't hate. I wouldn't hate Hurst as a pick. But these, but these, this line already has guys who

can penetrate, who are more of a liability. He'll argue more, too many guys I can do that. You're right, You're right, he'll argue with you. They got too many offensive lineman though too. I wouldn't. I wouldn't hate the pick because at the end of the day, you want to affect the passer. But this team got bullied against the run

a little bit last year. And we were talking today about we already know how they feel about true nose tackles, but like, what if what if you could get a guy who takes people, gets people off of Sean Lee and Jalen Smith's Yeah, how nice would that be? How much? Again we were talking about we were talking about Dion Jones in Atlanta's and who plays in front of him? And by the way, let me ask you this because this was a lunchtime conversation we had over smoked wings

kind of love to eat. By the way, if you haven't noticed, I'm still full from last night, no doubt. Would you could? Would you play Roquan Smith at Mike linebacker like you would with Dion Jones in Atlanta? Yes, there is not a linebacker position that Roquan Smith cannot play, thank you, Dane. So he's not just strict will to you. No, he's not. This isn't two thousand and four, Brian Urlocker,

you know, Yeah, I mean small guys can play. No, he's not that thumper who's just going to be able to attack the line and you know, bench press offensive lineman off his frame, get clean. I mean he's not that, but he can still his speed in the ability, his ability to diagnose the play. I mean, he can use that to his benefit and make plays. He might be best at the will, but that I'd be perfectly okay putting him at the mic, playing him at the SAM and being and feeling okay about it what he can

do with those positions. I want one hundred percent agree with that, just for the record, which I mean, you know, if something crazy happened, which hey, Dane says it every time, Roquan Smith's not going to be for everybody, Well, he's definitely for me. If he falls to nineteen for whatever

that's work. Agree, But in a situation like we were talking about at the top of the show, where you're not in love with most of your options, I would rather draft a wide receiver Dj Moore or offensive lineman, whether it's Daniels, whether it's Isaiah Winn, whatever, that I feel really good about, as opposed to a defensive tackle that I feel kind of good about just because you

need a defensive tackle. It's the age old argument, Oh sure, give me the guy that I just I feel better about some of those outside the box options than just drafting a defensive tackle because they need one. That's just me. I think there's just so many. I think again the options, and I think I think you're right, but I think you have to be ready. I think you have to be a little bit okay, maybe yeah, maybe it's maybe there are other options besides hers that you have to

think about. It's and nothing and nothing wrong with hers, because I have HRSUS a first round grade. But I'm just saying, though, man, I get what you guys are saying about selling about Dj Moore. I get that you know that that doesn't I don't have a problem with that now. It's funny because we've this team has picked later multiple times. I mean in last year and in fifteen they picked much later than this, But sitting here at nineteen, it kind of reminds me of sixteen with

Zach Martin, which that obviously worked out really well. But you're right there in no man's land where you're sure we're gonna miss out on all these elite guys, and what are we gonna do? Like I do. I feel like I've never been so clueless about what I thought they might do like I. And if you're not considering all roads, then you're probably making a mistake. That's That's

where I'm at right now. That's how I feel. Gotta love the dres I do, but I also love to take a break too every once in a while, So we got to do that. Here we're at the twenty eighteen NFL Scouting Combine. We're on radio row like we promised you guys we would be. We're going to be right back and get to some of your questions on Twitter on the twenty state two. It can be hard to find the right resource for learning about important financial matters.

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Thank you so much for being with us tonight. Okay, uh, David, I'm gonna turn it over to you for a little Twitter on the twenty. All right, Twitter on the twenty shouts out at ka Hill. All right, we're gonna We touched on this in the first segment. Kevin wants to know could a torn peck, which we said, we don't think it's a torn peck. Could a torn peck drop Billy Price into the fifty range? Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, you're

talking about but you're taking about an injury. You're gonna draft him and then when would you get him back? That would be And I'm again, i I'm like Dane, he said earlier I'm not a doctor, and I've been accused of play in one a couple of different times and it never works out well for me. Is really like a six month injury. Yeah, I mean you're talking about he you know, and when he's when he gets back, when he's done, he might not be you know, ready

for snaps right away. So I think best case scenario, you're probably looking at October, you know, like a second half of the season. It's a pup for sure, I believe, right. I mean that's like you're talking about all the training camp and then now into the first six weeks of the season. So I mean that that would be a very difficult thing. This this football team players, you know, but they've never shied away from the y. Again, those

words left my mouth. The big Jalen Smith boot went right in my rear, yeah, you know, and reminded me without that. So yeah, but that's a good question. But we don't know that it is a torna. We do not know, we don't think. So hopefully tomorrow he will be on that field running around. Hopefully. Hopefully here's a Brian, I know how you like creative questions out of the bucks. Michael's got one that I like. Uh, he wants to know if you get wiped out, you draft Connor Williams

at nineteen and maybe play him at guard. There are a lot of people who think Connor Williams is a guard around the league, Brian included, clearly. But this is also a player who's never thanking for that question, sir. He's never played guard in his life. Yeah, but I think he could never in high school. Never got a guard body. Uh yeah, six five two ninety six, like Isaiah Win has a guard body. Isaiah Win looks like a guard. Connor Williams to me, he's a square guy day.

But that doesn't a team play tackle? Um? Now, thirty three arms not ideal for a tackle. You want closer at least over thirty four, closer to thirty five. But uh, you know, guys like Joe Thomas, I've shown that you can have shorter arms. You just just hit me right in the gut with that one, didn't you. Well, I've learned Connor Williams is Uh. I'm trying him at tackle. But if a team drafts him for guard, I mean, if that's what they need, I don't think that's wrong.

What is your thought? About if a team takes a tackle with the attent of moving him from tackle to guard, let him play tackle first and then kick him inside. Well, I mean, I think with a lot of these guys, uh, you're you're gonna know during the private workouts. Uh, you know whether he can do it. You know, like you don't like a guy like Connor Williams. He needs I'm just saying in general, the thought of drafting a tackle, okay,

but then playing him a guard. It didn't work out great for chat Green, right, I mean, I think it just depends on the player. A guy like make Chas Green was a tackle all the way. But that's the coach admitted that it depends. It depends on the player. Because a guy like Mike McGlinchey, who's a better I mean he's tall, he's sixty eight, sure, but he's a better run defender than he is pass protector. I think

he could play guard. A guy like Tyroll Crosby, who played guard kind of love or played tackle at Oregon, he could move inside and play guard. I think we talked about Corbit too. I mentioned him a bunch, But you're talking about really special players though you're too much special I think Cross nineteen corbit on the on the bench a little disappointed. You know what, I think Zach Martin had like that too, Not Zack Martin, Travis Frederick,

Trevis Fredick was really terrible workout. Terrible workout shows what we know. Hey, but trust the tape, trust the tape. Yeah, okay, but yeah, I neither one of y'all answered the question. Yes, yes, No, I mean I don't. I'm not. No. Connor Williams is okay, a good player, Okay, I okay, Oh but if he can't he said the board was wiped out. Do you like Connor Williams is a is a wipeout pick? No, I think they'll be better player? Okay, you think is DJ Moore will be on that board? I would take

DJ Moore over him. Yeah, I'm saying I don't. I don't envision a scenario where Connor Williams will be my best player available at nineteen. He said he can't get wiped out to the point where Connor Williams is the best bet. Right Wait, wait, campaign manager over here, six sounds that was back. He's got translate. Gang up on me because you make it easy. It's true, I do make it easy, don't I King like to make you think. King wants to know, in light of what we learned today,

more likely at nineteen DJ Moore or Calvin Ridley? What's more? What's a more likely option? I think people will see Ridley as a better player. Well, I think, But he's asking what's more? For us? Why I got it? Do you do you have? That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to say that I think Ridley will keep taken before more. Is it easier to imagine Ridley falling to nineteen or DJ? I'm interested say that a wait wait wait, wait stop stop stop stop stop. All this love for Calvin Ridley

now has been is being questioned. No, I just I've said this from the start. Oh you have. You've been very clear about your love for Calvin Ridley. But with Calvin Ridley's one hundred and ninety pounds and I think there's a plenty of teams that are not going to see you like that two hundred and fifteen pound guy running out there. It's now six foot right. No, no, no, I'm not saying that more is gonna go over Ridley. I'm just saying that a team in the top fifteen.

I'm trying to agree with you, but all of a sudden, I'm hearing doubt. I've always had that doubt. I've never ruled out Ridley at nineteen. I'm saying it's possible because again the same thing with Roquan Smith. Teams love measurables, and neither Roquan or Ridley are going to have ideal measurables when teams look for a top fifteen player. If you're a cowboy fan, who you who? You're just hoping Ridley or Smith. But it gets there to you. Oh, Smith's a top ten player for me in this route.

I mean, Calvin Ridley is two, but Smith, gimme Smith. But Ridley again, he's one hundred and ninety pounds, and I think that will scare some teams. That is the number one concern with him before we the way is eight. Yeah, I mean, I think he's one hundred niney pound athlete.

That's I think Marvin Harrison, Calvin Ridley. There's plenty of undersized receivers that are doing great things in the league, but again, so many teams are locked into the thought of getting a specific type of player in the top fifteen. So and one hundred ninety pound wide receivers. Not one of those I want. I want Cashi a real quick question, go ahead, did you hear some doubt? No? See, I was gonna say, Brian jumps on any sign of waffling like a shark on blood in the white. He's just like,

what are you backtracking? Because I'm gonna murder you if you're like, I don't think Dane backtracked at all. You're just trying to find something to argue Ridley. I think he was like number ten overall my board, So I mean I would take him somewhere in that in that you know, ten to twelve range, But I'm thinking other teams are going he's not gonna fit in that neat little box, and so Ridley could be there at nineteen. I think he makes too much sense at what sixteen

to the Ravens. Sure we know how much Aussie knew. Some loves those outlays. They need that they need a wide receiver. That makes a lot of sense. But it would not shock me at all if Calvin Realley is there at nineteen. So you think it's more realistic that Ridley falls to nineteen than more jumps that high up. Yes, okay, that's that. That's all we needed, Brian, that's all we needed. In your opinion of that is damp for what it's worth. Can't you can clip this out for a future years?

I love to see how I like to see? How do I just want to fight? You know what? Commitment? It is? Absolute commitment is what I like. Calvin Ridley is the number one right wide receiver in this class by default, like by default, you know what? You know what I don't see. You don't think he's a good player. I don't. It's not learned that the best bro. He's just he's not. He's not worth getting like excited about.

This might be a receiving crew that has some depth throughout that are going to turn out to be some pretty good players. I think there are more questions about is that guy a slot player? Can he play outside? How many of those guys do we have? Are we seeing slought players here? Are we seeing Kirk Anthony Miller? Yeah, there's plenty of them. Yeah, it's ibsand how many? But how many true outside ones? You see? Danny even said it, he said, hey, this guy might be Cower really might

be a two. Yeah, and That's why I love him for the Cowboys, because he's a perfect Z for this offense. I think what he can do compliments Dez. It helps Dez, it helps Dak, it helps the run game. I think it's a perfect fit for this offense. He can be a high end two and again that's not a negative. That still means he could be a top twenty wide receiver in this league. But no, I think you're right about the overall point about not having a there's not

an Aj Green Julio Jones. But that's where Courtland Sutton comes in. And this is why it's a big week for Courtland Sutton said this. He has number one traits, uh and just you worry about the transition from college the pro level, it's a big week for him to show what's his forty you know, how how well is he going to test? That's gonna go to a long way into a team figuring out if they are willing to invest a top forty pick in the Courtland Sun. Can I ask one more scout question of my scouts

with Dak Prescott? What you know about Dak Prescott? Which receiver best fits how he throws the football Between more and Ridley. You know my answer because I've been consistent with what I think about that. It's not that I think they both work, but I just I just really like DJ Moore for a variety of reasons, one of them being that I think he fits that. I think he's got the hands and the ability to separate that make that work. So both are available at nineteen. Who

are you taking? He's taken more? Yeah, that's what I mean. I've gone. Oh no, he hey Dane, and I retweeted, he he know he's gone too. He got right Yeah, got right behind the road. He got right behind the wheel and started pointing down the highway. Gone too far down this road to turn around. I just want to ask you, though, of what you what you scouted both players? Yeah, which player is a better fit for a quarterback that

might have some curcy questions? I think it's Ridley because he can get open and he's going to present the quarterback with an open target. I think his place speed and his route running, and that's what's so special about Ridley. The place being. The route running is going to create space, so you're gonna have to He's gonna make it tough for you to miss him because he's going to sit down in an open zone, give you a clear target, just aim for the numbers. He's not gonna be a

guy that's going to struggle to get open. And that's where with DJ Moore, as much as I like him, he can. I think that's what we're expecting and that's not a bad thing. Again, DJ Moore is my number two receiver. I've been talking about Dj more since the fall, and sure, yeah, I think people more and more people started to catch on how good he is. I would love him on my football team. I would love Calvin Ridley a little more. Yeah, he's right, he's not. I mean,

I hear you. Hey, I was just no, I was just curious because both guys, I mean to me, maybe More might be a little bit better bad ball catcher consistency. Yeah, if you think, if you think that, if you see what you're saying with that, this is what I'm trying to go with. And I understand why he likes More because you see circus plays with bad quarterbacks. So if you have a quarterback, that's not accurate. If you're not if you're playing with quarterbacks, it's not accurate. Or has

questions of accuracy. Wouldn't More make a lot of sense. DJ Moore kind of passed from eight different quarterbacks sure, in the last three years. I mean, we're all so we're all in agreement. Is trying to go though? I mean, if Dj More goes your team with a bad quarterback, he still has chances to have productivity. I think, let me, he's used to play with a bad quarterback. Let's break this downboy, don't have a bad quarterback. No, I'm just saying, though, Okay,

way to go. Dane boils down to brass tacks real quick? Is this really realistic? Like? Are we just lost in like a combine fantasy right now? We're talking about we're talking about DJ Moore as maybe lasting to fifty but probably not two weeks ago. And now we're just like nineteen or bus No, no, no, because we're trying you're trying to think about who's your second best receiver on

the board. Yeah, and I think that if Ridley, if Ridley's gone and you and you get to that situation at nineteen where you don't like any of those players, Yeah, maybe they'd like him as much as we do. But what I'm saying is we clearly like him a lot. And I guess my point is, do they or will they really like to do that? I kind of lean more toward no. Can't wait till the thirty visits. By the way, it's a good point. Yeah, give me those thirty visites. I'll tell you exactly who they like. We'll

get those shifting gears a little bit. Great question, by the way, Brett wants to know. Wait, hey, keeping our options open, right, Brett wants to know who's who's a better fit for this team? Harold Landry or Marcus Davenport. I don't Landry just doesn't seem to fit what they look for in an edge rusher. Not really. I said this. I said this to Kevin Turner earlier today, like he loves Harold Landry? I said, why are you doing that to yourself? Why are you falling in love with that guy?

A year after what happened with t J. Watt? Harold Andrews can come in probably six o one six two hundred and fifty two pounds, But after after what happened with t J. Watt, why are you falling in love with a tweener? They're trying, they're yeah, they're screaming at you that they don't want to kt KT saw he had lost it in the first room last year. Hey, this isn't about no I'm serious. This isn't about how

well that you can evaluate players. But he says he's telling the Cowboys basically to stick it because there's there's people that could that rush the passer they don't like. I can only speak for myself. Yeah, I trust y'all's opinions. I think y'all are great. At the end of the day, I don't care about your opinion because I want to know what they're gonna do, right, That's what I want to know. There's no doubt about that. There's no dabta. He looks like an NFL defensive end for sure. He

is a budding superstar, you hope, a huge bust. All these guys have bus potentialists. That's what I'm saying. But you know it's but I can understand why why Katie's gonna die on that hill. I can sure because because again he had he had lost it in the first round last year. We did it with t J. Watt last year, and yeah, exactly, we all agree that t J.

Watt would be a better player. But That doesn't mean that you know this team is going to change their philosophy when it comes to But I am eager to see what Harold Landry how long his arms are, because when you watch him on tape, there are times when you see him extend into rushers use that length to his advantage. He is more than just a speed demon around the edge. So I am eager to see what he weighs in. It can say it? How about that?

How about how wrong? How about to take his thirty five and a half inch arms and put it on somebody that Yeah, like a rusher? That would have fun. He's a good rusher to the guy who's who's short, But he's not small. He's not small right at all. Jordan wants to know if offensive line is the pick at nineteen, Dane would have a fit. Well, no, I wouldn't. What should the next pick be? If offensive line is the pick at night, give it to him. It has

to be defense? Is yeah, defense you're going with? Please take Golden if he's there. Probably we look at linebacker, defensive tackle or safety and really just who's the highest graded player there? Uh? Vander esh from Boise State. I don't know if I don't think he'll be there at fifty. Um, Golden could be there in the discussion. Uh, and then maybe one of our nose tackle we've been talking about, I mean, would you. I don't think either of us would be upset to see so not go that high. No, Uh,

he's in that mix. And I don't think he's a true nose tackle. I think he could play three. Yeah, he's got trades, he's he falls under the trades. He's not a statue. He can move. So yeah, I think you look at defense, you look at uh, you know, up the middle with defensive tackle, linebacker, safety is the most like Harrison. Harrison would make some sense there at fifty if he was there, wouldn't he Well, I just don't see him available, But yeah, make like quite a

fall for Ronnie Harrison. Are you talking about Yeah, Oh, I'm thinking Harrison Phillips. No, No, uh, Alabama's safety. Yeah, I still doubt he'd be there. But and especially because the safety class is so weak, like I think we all agree, Harrison will be the second safety drafted. I would I would be pretty shocked the second safety does not come off the board until the fiftieth pick. Yeah, that seems surprising to me. Can I get Can I

give you one more? Ye? Got u again? In the name of expanding our options, it's to expand your option. Show today here at the combine pick number nineteen. DJ Moore or Josh Jackson haven't talked about him at all. I don't even know how realistic that is. This team can't draft a corner right in the first round, Why

the hell not? If you start at corners already, if you if you're if if crowded, Yeah, I mean they had they said they haven't talked about moving Byron Jones to corner yet there well, they have hope for Anthony Brown. If you're if you're gonna make me pick a corner,

I'm taking Hughes. Is this or isn't this a passing league? No, I'm just saying, if if, if our guys are gone, if depending on what you think about Wards gone, Fitzpatrick gone, If you're gonna make me pick a corner, the my third best corner on the board is Hughes from Mikey is from the UCF. That's just agree. I agree. So, if you're gonna make me pick a corner, I'm not taking Jackson I'm taking hughes, but would you do it if you I mean, you're wiped out. Let's say you're

wiped out. I take, I take more. I just don't think this team is gonna take a corner. It does. I meant, if we all, we all sort of think Byron Jones is probably gonna get a look at corner. Why has everybody fallen in love with Jackson? The Iowa corner I led the he led all of college football and passes defendant and interceptions. That's two reasons right there. I'm just I'm just asking when you watch the tape.

He's got some struggles in man, but I think for a zone heavy team where he has a chance to keep the receiver in front of him, use those instincts that he has. And he's not a bad athlete. He just there are some holes in man coverage. But for a zone heavy team, absolutely, I'd draft him in the first round. So it just depends on the team and the fit, uh for him. I don't. I'm not as high on him as others, but for the right team, Oh I'm not. But I understand. I understand what you're

saying there, I really do. I just I get I can't get over Desmond King in my head. You know he's a good player. What's your No, I can't get over how great Desmond King was and how what this guy is. And Desmond King has made plays. He went in the fifth round, and Jackson is gonna go in the first. Desmond King should have gone the first, idiot NFL should have he should he should he should have. Let me tell you, should have gone a lot higher

than he did. No question. Everybody's worried about Oh you know, oh he doesn't run well, he's got a drink, he's got a drinking round. He does not drinking from at all. You pick six, Dak Prescott. You gotta get anymore over there? Yeah, I do. Um Austin wants to know idea. We've talked about this, but we'll revisit it. Idealistic day three running back fits rounds four to seven running backs. They're gonna pick what one, two, three, four we talked about six

times in the on the third day. Does Walton go well before the fourth? Yeah, he's gone. Kelly gone before the fourth? No, I think Kelly is a possibility. I don't think it's a for sure that he's gone finds. We've talked about him North Carolina State, right, Yeah, who's the player player? I don't think we've talked about much. Josh Adams from Notre Dame that Davey wants me to watch Josh Haddens. Really you should, and I've seen him. I've seen him on tape before. That knee brace scares me.

He's got that knee brace song and beat up. Yeah, see that worries me. But watch him go. He'll light the league up. Now, we're not asking him to carry the ball twenty five times. But I just want a healthy guy. I want a healthy runner because you know what I'm gonna do with a runner. I'm gonna use him for four or five years than discard him. But but you're not. You're not asking him to be the be. But I wanted to be healthy to start out with

so I could use him all the time. Well, what it was is he tours ACL as a sophomore in high school. Yeah, and still wears this knee brace. It's just a protective thing. Right, that's at this scary. That's I will watch the player. You should, but that's also you know we're talking about the fourth, fifth round. Now you know, so at a certain point you take the risk depending on Let me ask you guys a question, fourth round, what what player? What position? Not what player?

What position would you absolutely take in the fourth round? Is there a position that you would take that you like? You know what I feel like this fourth round is that could be a good round for this position. I might be running back. I mean, I think you know we've mentioned Daryl Williams, John Kelly uh some of these other Josh Adams. I think all will be there in the fourth round. And like just what you do with Dak last, you know a couple of years two years ago,

you just take a fourth round guy? Is it a quarterback? Who's your fourth round quarterback? We talked about Luke Fawk on this show as a guy. Yeah, do you do you not have it? Do not have a legitimate guy after those top five? No? I mean, I think Kyle Loletta from Richmond. If you're bad in the bo, if you're looking for a quarterback in the fourth, fifth round, that's your guy. He's not Jimmy Garoppolo. I've heard those comparisons is ludicrous. Jimmy Garppolo is a much better player

when he's coming out of Eastern Illinois. Lolette is a good player though, and he's very efficient. He's very smart. He's not gonna hurt you. Uh. Doesn't have elite physical traits, but he he understands what his job is and he maximizes his potential. How about cornerback. Yeah, we're talking about this being a deep corner class, and sure I agree with you. At the end of the day, you don't want to take a corner in the first round on this team. Try to find the next Anthony Brown, find

some youth. Maybe maybe you don't. Have you talked about the Sai. Where's Whitehead from pitt Goes? He a third round guy? I think so, But I think he's gonna perform well here at the combine. Um, maybe I'm too high on him. Um, one kind like we were with Xavier Woods. Yeah maybe maybe I think one guy a corner who's getting overlooked. Um, I don't. We probably said his name on the Draft show. Yeah, but DJ Reid

from Kansas State, Oh yeah, yeah, I've watched him. Yeah, certainly have not heard that name, as he'd be your your Orlando Scandric ok undersized slot guy who he's got ball skills, he's got some speed. Uh he's been you know, kind of labeled his undersize his whole life out of high school. Had to go to Fresno State. Coaches didn't believe on him, so he went to JUCO, goes to Kansas State and he just lights it up for Bill Snyder. So sounds like he might be a chip on his

shoulder kind of absolutely much like Dan Danis. I've just reading my notes on him because I say, I watched him against UCLA in Kansas and you're right, the movement's not back. It turned quickly wrap up as a tackler plays with a burst, has ketchup speed, has feels, how to play routes. I mean IM not afraid to step up tackle. I mean yeah, but he's fighting the measurements that we were going off of five away, five one

eighty eight and we'll see what he is here. Uh, he'll be six foot here if they move on from Orlando Scandrick. He's a name to know that you could fit that role. DJ Read Kansas State. Another one who we talked about before. You know, if you're okay with who he is off the field. Holton Hill, Texas one of my favorites. He's like him. I think he's a second round player just based on talent, but you do worry about the off field and reliability. But in the

fourth round, maybe the value is there. You feel comfortable, all right, I got real quick. Sure this is a Dane special And I'm only asking it because it plays so well with what we're just talking about. Because Ed wants to know why aren't we talking about Georgia's safety Dominic Sanders productive player at Georgia over his career. He's got I think, more of a size of a corner like he's not the biggest safety, but he's rangey and he's played. He's a four year starter. He's played a

lot of football in the SEC. I see him as more of a late round guy. But yeah, when you're fifth, sixth, seventh round and you're looking for a safety, he's one of the names to be on the shortlist. What I mean, corner nickel maybe? Could? I mean we saw Xavier Woods do that this team. I don't know. I've never seen him back pedal. I've never seen him I have to consistently transition. So he played really really deep at times. Yeah, yeah, but a guy that when he has a chance to

pick the ball off. He he did. I mean he took advantage of those opportunities. He had had a really good career for defense that you know, we saw good that defense was this season for the Bulldogs and Athens winning the SEC going on with the national title. Yeah, it's about do it for Twitter on the twenty and thanks everybody out there. A good one. Yeah, when we come back, data and I will continue to fight. So

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and T is a proud member of Cowboys Nation. This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft You Cowboys on the plot. We'll back here in at the two eighteen NFL combine. Things winding down here for date two tomorrow, we will have actual on field workouts. We had bench presses today. Some again some impressive numbers from some of the running backs. I thought that was I thought that was a good and some unimpressive numbers from the offensive lineman.

Mister lsu Hey. They he needs to be said, Darius Guys fifteen reps, which is half of what Sequon Barkley did. So what I mean, Okay, Oh ask you this though, if you're talking about Guys, would you would you say that he's not a strong player. No, I would say that's kind of the foundation of what he is as a runner, he say he runs pretty damn strong. No, and he talks about this is one of the best parts about the combine is being able to talk to

these guys. Yeah, it is great. Spent some time with Darius guys and he said four words when asked, Okay, who do you compare to uh in the NFL be smood skittles man. That was his response, which to that point, Darius Guis's power comes from his lower body, like I like that dude, his legs or something else. And it's I'm not worried about it. And it's not only just just the physical power, but it's the determination. It's he runs angry. You know, if he was one hundred and

eighty pounds, he'd still run that same way. He would not change the way he runs. So I'm not too worried about the fifteen. I mean it really Again, like we said at the top of the show, I think the bench press, especially for some of these positions like running back, shows more about you know how often they're in the weight room and pushing themselves there. But no, this is uh, this is a player who he's deserving

a first round consideration. Uh. You know, we He talked about how Marshawn Lynch, you know, he his favorite running back growing up Geis was Reggie Bush. But then when he started to watch more tape, he realized, Hey, Marshawn Lynch, that's how I run. I'm like him, and so, uh, you know he's really I mean, he understands that he's an angry runner, and he feeds off of that. He celebrates that. That's gonna be Okay. So I think it's universally agreed upon that se Quon Barkley is going by eight.

By he's he's gone by pick eight at the absolute latest, give or take. Yeah, I'd say seven, okay, top ten, yeah, would you agree every the opinions of everybody else on the rest of these upper tier running backs is like, I can't come to a consensus at all. Some people, I mean, some people think Darius Guys is a top twenty pick. Some people think he's the second round pick. I think you could say the same thing about Ronald Jones,

um who else? I think Carrie on Johnson's and that mag Nick Chubb, who, to be fair, Nick Chubb put twenty nine up. He matched sa Quon on the bench, So you know, we need to give Chubbs some love as well. This is a running back class where it's you know, pick what you what you want at the running back position. You got like Nick Chubb is not flashy, but that lower body is so strong and he runs so balanced that he's going to break tackles. Uh, Sony

Michelle's got a little bit of everything. And you know, we we love Ronald Jones and he came in at two hundred and five pounds. He said today that by the Pro Day he wants to be two ten. I thought that was interesting because by the prode I mean he's probably gonna run at the Pro Day. And if he wants to be a higher weight, how that's going to affect the way he can work out. He also we talked about he wasn't asked to do much pass

protection right at USC. He talked about the playbook at USC not having a lot of running back routes right that he was a checkdown option, but he wasn't asked to run a lot of rounds as part of that offense. So these running backs are really interesting. How you know, if I told you one running back goes in the first round, I don't think any of us would be too surprised. If I told you three go in the

first round, we wouldn't really be surprised. So it is really an interesting class to see the pecking order and how they come off the board. You need to have some teams fall in love with a couple of these guys absolutely push us some players down to nineteen. David, this is my favorite. You know this is your favorite time and the show when I do this? What's that? Oh? God, the measurements daning you with me today? Let's hear him? All right? How about this one? Am I gonna run down?

I want to ask you guys thought, did anybody helped themselves or any surprises here? Quarterbacks? Josh Allen six four seven two thirty seven ten an eighth hand thirty three in a quarter talk scouting to me tennon an eighth hand. That's impressive, all right, you like that? Ten to eighth that's impressive. With Josh Allen, we we I think we had a good idea because we knew a senior Bowl measurement, so we had we had a good idea what he was gonna be. But some of these juniors, though, oh

how about it? Get you in this one. Okay, you're ready for this one. What do you got Sam Darnell? H huh usc you know? Uh huh six O three three two twenty one nine and three eights on the hand thirty one thirty one arm and is the guy in a lot of fumbles and throughout his college career security there are you worried about? Okay? What was the hand size? Nine? Three is fine? I want at least nine, and preferably at least nine in a quarter coming out

at nine yates, that's absolutely fine. I think his fumbles were more a carelessness issue than something that, you know, a hand sized issue, So those are solid numbers. Doesn't change my opinion of them at all. David Yep, Lamar Jackson, my guy, My guy too. I'm with you on this one.

Bill Polley, and this one's for you. Six zo two two to sixteen nine and a half hands thirty three and an eighth arm measured a little better you think two sixteen seem I mean, he's a mobile guy, but it's a little light, it is, and I don't think Look, we compare these five pounds lighter than Sam Darnold, who looks like a brick out, but two sixteen just sounds

so small. We talk about weights, but body type matters. Um, you know, we talk about how a guy like Sam Darnold, how he's how many only five pounds five pounds two twenty one, but their body types are so different. Where Lamar Jackson's lean and that's just how he's built. Sam Darnold, he's a little secretary like running around out there, you know, right, So we can talk about how there's only five pounds difference, but their body types are much different, and that that's

definitely a partist. Here's a different body type for you. Baker Mayfield six zero zero five two fifteen. I think all his two fifteens in his rear lower body, and that's good. He needs that. Yeah, he takes hits in college. He's gonna take hits in the NFL. He's an athletic guy though, Yeah, yeah, oh no doubt, yeah, part of his game. It's funny. Lamar Jackson, though, is one pound heavier than taller and only one pound heavier. Yeah, that's yeah.

I'm just thinking. You know, Baker Mayfield was like all anybody would talk about at the Senior Bowl because he was the guy. And that's I mean, I haven't even thought about him until right now because there's so many other guys here. Lamar Jackson two sixteen, I mean that's I still worry about the durability. He does not have a lot of body. I know he didn't get hurt or I shouldn't say that. He did not miss a

start the last two years. I get that. But he's gonna be taking harder hits the NFL, and he's just you worry about it. This is surprising to me considering how much you loved Teddy Bridgewater. But he wasn't a guy that's gonna run the ball. He had a different game. Yeah they're completely different quarter but different game. But this guy's not gonna run the ball all the time. He's kidding me, you know he You don't think Lamar Jackson's gonna run the ball a lot in the NFL, Then

you're not drafting him in the first round. You're not drafting Lamar Jackson because he's a big time passer. You're drafting him because he's a big time athlete. You're draft to a passer. He I think he could pass, He's not. He can't. But it's the combination of the mobility and if Lamar Jackson is not was not an athlete, if he ran a six second forty, you're not drafting him

in the first round. You're not. You're wrong, And I don't believe you if you say, yeah no. The thing about him is, though, but you watch him make plays. He not only may I think he makes he makes places with he makes place with his arm, and he makes place to this, and he does. But when you get the most excited about him on tape, it's when

he's running the ball. It's when he's using that athleticism or even just not even just like running, you know, past the line of scrimmage, but using his athleticism to buy himself more time. He's better athlete him or Watson Jackson. He's a better athlete. I mean that's not to say Deshaun Watson wasn't a good athlete, but I mean we're talking about the right handed version of like vic. That's who Lamar Jackson can be. You know what, to me, I was there, I live that. I live that one.

It's shock I live that one. It's shocking to me that there's debate that Lamar Jackson should go in the top like twenty year or so picks. I mean he should go higher than that. Honestly. It just takes a team that's willing to adjust their offense to you know, what his skill set is. And look, we did you warm up to Mahomes? Was on Mahomes pretty quick. Let's it's the top fifty guy real quick. Let's look at Watson and what he did in Houston. How they adjusted

the offense Watson's strengths. And that's what a team is gonna have to do with Lamara Jackson. You yeah, what we're going in that the direction we're going now to Jason Garrett said yesterday that the game is trickling up. You would just oh, it always is, yeah, and that's because high school and in college are a little more open minded to things. Absolutely, but you adjust your play calling to your personnel, and so it s so your quarterback is if your quarterbacks Tom Brady, you're you know,

you're not gonna do a lot of RPOs. No, I mean you're gonna You're gonna adjust your play calling to fit what your what your personnel says is the strength of your team, what your quarterback is. And that's just how the NFL works. It's gonna be nice debates. And the last one, I don't mean to slide him here, but Josh Rosen six zo four oh seaking of slight yeah, six four two twenty six, ninety seven eights, hands, thirty one three quarters on and we're gonna hear always five

pounds heavier than Darnald. But again, you look at the body types. He's got a slight build. Uh, that's just that's how he's built, and that that factors into the conversation. I keep saying that he's Matt Ryan. You do keep saying body type, He's Matt Ryan. Body type. Okay. In the way they throw the ball, Yeah, yeah, I think you're you got something that hell of a flatter in comparison. Matt Ryan was top three pick. Yeah, I know, he was MVP. Yeah. That means we gotta go for another

day tomorrow. Yeah, Actually, gonna talk about some workouts tomorrow. You know, you're not excited to talk about the offensive line and what they're gonna run forty forty wives. But there'll be some guys have some decent times. We'll see hopefully, So get the ten yards split. Orlando Brown just don't be the worst athlete, right, over under five point four, going over now, going over there all right for my scouting buddies, Dame Burgood for David Helmer for Kick Garrison

executive producer. I want to thank everybody out there for checking us out. We'll be back tomorrow, probably around the same time, but we'll be able to talk about a few more workouts. Have some running back workouts too we can visit with. That should be some fun. So on Marklin for Joyce in Jeff Show. We'll see tomorrow. H