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and watch tape with you. Gotta watch the guy through like you said. I mean, I really loved your rhyme to start off, you know, carry you through, investigate education, that's what That's what we do here at the Draft show. I like it. Tay you thanks for being here today. So appreciate that. She's got a lot of really good insights. She's got some buddies in this league, and buddies that are handled it. Some of these quarterbacks too, George Winfield

and guys like that. So some interesting stories from you. But we do appreciate you being here. Kate Garrison, Executive producing of the show. Hello, Kent. He's ready for this draft to get started, much like I'm ready for a fifteen hour draft show. And that's that's absolutely right. It's a nice segue, Ken, I appreciate you doing that. Uh,

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fifty three. Yeah. So just that's something amazing, the knowledge that you guys have, just something we take a lot of pride in and we're gonna do that. So I'm going to jump into this. We had a big trade. Actually we've had a couple of big trades. We talked about the Tennessee trade now Philadelphia and we called it. I mean we talked about this last week. Yeah, quarterbacks going one two and then Eagles being the most likely candidate to move up with the Browns for that orderback

that's not going number one. So I think we saw this coming not a huge shock. The question was what would Philadelphia give up not having that second round pick, and they give up a lot even picks into twenty eighteen. So for Cleveland makes sense. You know, they're building for the future. They were not head over heels for Carson Wentz, who we expect to be that pick. Where the Eagles

the other way around. You know, they don't have that franchise caliber quarterback Sam Bradford the way his contract is structured, probably one and done and they're gonna cut him and then Chase Daniel you have as a backup. So theoretically we might not see Carson Wentz at all this year for the Eagles. I think that's fine. But a lot of people, and I'm sure a lot of people listening to this show do realize us. But now the Eagles

have moved twice in this draft order. Yeah, you know, already trading with Miami to get up to eight good point and giving away two key players to Miami for that move, right, and now moving all the way up to the top two. You don't go up to the top two if you're not getting a fise quarterback. If you're not getting a franchise player, and uh, all signs point to it being a quarterback. But who will it be? Yeah, Howie Rossman at the Eagles, he was in a broom closet. Well,

Chip Kelly was there. They said, hey, you go, you go. Your office is now the broom closet. Well they let him out of the broom closet. You know, he had time to manipulate a couple. It's amazing what he got, you know, from the Dolphins, the picks able to move up and do with no second round picking. You guys

are right, he gave up a lot. But if you if that's what you believe, you know, I said yesterday on our show on the Talking Cowboys, you know, fortune favors the bold if you believe it's a lot of money though, Man, I mean a lot of money in quarterbacks extensions and stuff like that. And you know, I mean that's if you're gonna go. But let me ask you guys this and and you know quarterback play as well. Carson wentz though, is it was it worth it? Now?

I think you'll say something about golf. I think you would agree that going to get golf like that like that, but in your opinion, know, is it the right move in your opinion? And it will either be proven right or wrong on this, but it was it the right move to go get Carson Wentz. In my opinion, I'm not giving up all that to get Carson Wentz. I like Carson Wentz. I think he's a first round caliber quarterback. If he were there for me at eight, i'd consider

taking him. But packaging all those picks to move up when you already don't have a second rounder this year and so you're losing picks. To me, that's a little too Richard Carson Wentz. And that's nothing against him, it's just, you know, you have to really love a player to package all those picks to go up and get him. I don't love him. I like him a lot. And so for Jared Goff, I think I could, I would do that. I think that's a that's a player that I like a lot. I possibly love enough to give

up those picks. Carson Wentz I don't feel strongly about. So, Yeah, I feel the same. I mean, the first time I really watched Carson was when we were in Mobile, Alabama. Yeah, watching him interact with our coaches. A big thing for me that stood out of me was his footwork. Yeah. I didn't feel like his footwork was as strong as you know it needed to be to be a number

two overall quarterback. And obviously you go and you work out and go through this whole draft process, knowing your strengths and your weaknesses, assuming that he's been focusing on his footwork, But how much can you do? How much it's just in nate with your natural talent, natural ability. So I would say, no, he is not the guy that I would pick if I was the Eagles. But who else are you going to get? I mean it interest is what it is in this draft class, and

the same for Goff. I mean, Goff is a very interesting quarterback to me because yes, he has these this field vision. You know, he's become a playmaker to Cala. But h you know, speaking with George Whitfield, who you're telling me about this week, Dan, I'll ask you this question. I've already asked broad us. I don't want him to steal it, but do you know how many college games Jared Goff actually won? Yeah? His record was like fourteen

in yeah, exactly, so below below five hundred. I asked a couple of those coaches around here, you know, because I see him in the halls, and I was it's all the way. You're very good at bumping into coaches and getting information. I'll give you a lot of credit for they do just kind of Yeah, they talk to you more they talk to me, which isn't we are of good talks because I am fascinated by it, you know, And I asked a couple of them, I said, you know,

how many one twenty, no lower lower thirteen games? And to think about that, you know, a lot of these look at Jameis Winston. You know, he was pretty much undefeated throughout his time in college. Granted stacked team, but will Jared Goff be the playmaker that the Rams need, you know? And will he be able to carry the team because you're assuming he's gonna start He's gonna start over,

start over, their guy case Keenum. So it's interesting, but I'm just struggling with well, and when you look at and golf to your point, that first year they were so bad team as a team, and then a second year sophomore five and set, and then his junior year eight and five. So I think that progression makes you feel a little bit better about you know, the unimpressive win lost record for a starting quarterback. But then Wentz is the opposite. You know, all he did is win

at North Dakota State. But right, you got the factor in the level that he played at. Right, We've seen it happen before, Joe Flacco and making that jump. But it's just I don't care what kind of quarterback expert you are, how do you account for that jump in speed, the uptick in competition. Not every passer has the ability to adapt with that speed and and you know, translate to the next level because of that speed. It's just going to be a big transition for him. It's a

big risk. This is Jay Cutler the last and maybe somebody can help me out there in the Twitter world listen, but it's Jay Cutler, the last losing quarterback to get trapped. I mean he was at Vanderbilt, right, you know, and and everybody's thinking, you know, well, maybe he took a very good Maybe he maybe he helped Vanderbilt win a few more games that they weren't going to win. But is he the last quarterback that we've seen on a bad team they get selected, you know, highly in this draft. Yeah,

I think that that makes sense. I think it is Jay Cutler off the top of my head that that would make a lot of sense. Um. But yeah, and we don't see it often because everybody wants the winner, right, And there's there's a big debate about quarterback wins and how relevant of a stat it is because football is the ultimate team game. Yeah, but at the same time, quarterback is the most important position in the ultimate team game.

So I believe that quarterback wins is an important stat, but it's not anything more than paying attention to completion percentage, paying attention to you know, all these stats matter. I don't think quarterback wins should be the be all end all right of a player, but it does matter if factors into the evaluation. I look at North Dakota State is kind of the Alabama of the FCS. Oh, no doubt,

obviously dynasty like the hand repeat. Yeah, you know you're you're talking about these bad teams and everything, but look at someone like a J. McCarron. His team was dynamite. They do play more of a pro style offense for a college team. And uh, you know, yes, he's gone to see or Cincinnati and been this back up to Dalton and you know, helped at the playoffs this year.

But it's funny because they always talk about the Alabama curse of the quarterback, right, you know, you have this great college team and then you go and do this. I think RG three is a perfect example of that as well. Yeah, he took Baylor to a new level, right level that'd never seen before. Picked very highly too. I mean they get up a ton, but he's a system quarterback, you know. So there is all these different things. But look at Blake Bortles what he did with UCF,

a smaller school. That transition should be noted as well. Yeah, I mean what about you, what are your thoughts on Carson Wentz being that number two pick? And yeah, I you know what I've I've always felt like in my top fifties coming out to Dan Dallas Cowboys dot Com and and K Garrison was where he was laughing at me because I've got Carson Wentz at seventeen. You know that's my opinion. I've got I've got Lynch and then Golf up in the top ten, but I have Carson

Wentz at seventeen. If I'm you know, and I've said this before, if I'm a Cowboy fan and I and I believe what I believe about Carson Wentz, I'm okay with them making that deal. R You know, there was a lot of you know, one of my favorite players is Zeke Elliott. I can imagine them sitting there at eight and grabbing Zeke and meet going, you know, and

this could be my Joey Harrington. The quarterbacks can always that's always gonna be my my one guy that when I start talking about these quarterbacks that I go, is this my new Joey Harrington? Is this the guy that I didn't think can play and all of a sudden is lighting up the league? You know? And I don't know if I would have made the steal if I was the Eagles, like you guys said. I think you

guys said it. I think you're right spot on. I don't know if I'm going up, if I'm trying to get to one and to get golf, if I believe that strongly in golf, which I think that he's right there with with Lynch in my mind, Yeah, let's go. But man, Philadelphia, that that to me is one of those either sure, I'm captain obvious here. It's either gonna be Wow, what a colossal It could end up like him, like another NFC East team like Washington with RG three.

Everything they gave up to go get him and then all of a sudden he's somewhere else. It's and a few things. It's maybe you can say it's about in these quarterbacks. Yeah. And it's ironic that last year with Marcus Mariota and Chip Kelly in Philadelphia that they couldn't get a deal done to move up from twenty all the way up to number two. Now, who knows if Tennessee was really playing ball, but it's just it's interesting

that they couldn't get that done. But this year with Howie Roseman, who you know, like you said to your point it was kind of pushing the broom closet. Yeah, I bet he has a new perspective on you know, how much time you have in this league, Like, sure, you gotta win. Now, you gotta go for it. You don't know who's coming through that door, exactly. Take risks, you know, if you believe in a player, go for it. Yeah. And the owner I think as a big part of

this too. The owner was with Howie Roseman and the head coach, Coach Peterson when you took him out that Carson was out to dinner right, these private workouts, So I think the owners have had a big play in this as well. But yeah, I know, I think we're on a greement. See, I've been with Jeff Leury before, by and just real quick, I've been with Jeff Lury and in Philadelphia, and so he is a very He's not his hands on as Jerry Jones, but he likes

to get involved, he likes to make decisions. I give him credit for Jeremiah Trotter, and Jeremiah Trotter to me, it comes back to me so vividly about and I know Jeremiah Trotter was the third round pick, but Miles Jack Sure and the knee and the doctors saying ten games, ten years, I can't tell you. And I just and I just keep seeing that, you know. And I keep seeing the Green Bay as failing Larry Allen on the shoulder,

you know, and then Ron Woolf for minding the team. Doctors. Hey, that's the guy it's gonna kick our ass today, all right, that's the guy you failed, you know. And so owners owners like Jeff Lurry that do let the guys do their job, but take an approach like, hey, if we feel good about this, let's go, you know, I mean, and I and I applaud them for doing that. I just don't know if I would have done it for that particular player. And and are we in agreement that

it is going to go golf Wentz? Are you no? I? I you know? And I'm interested now in what happens in front of Dallas and it's these you know, five minutes before we take our next our first break of the day. What happens now, What happens now is your mindset changed? What potentially can happen to you? Uh? You know? Is that something that did you expect at both quarterbacks? I mean we've all kind of talked about this in the draft show. We thought it was going to be

offensive tackle quarterback. I don't think quarterback quarterback now that

pushes a guy down to you potentially. And I think the last week or so, two weeks since the Rams freight, I think we've had a good feel it's gonna be quarterbacks one two, And then the question is, okay, the draft starts at number three with the Chargers, and I think San Diego right now, what they're doing is they're leaking that they loved Tunsel, but they also love Ramsey, They also love Buckner, they love all that's what I'm Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They in there. So say Jaguars,

for example, number five, say they love Jalen Ramsey. They're looking for that playmaker in the secondary right. They think, oh, he might go three. Now, well let's let's give up a pick to move up two spots, get in front of Dallas. Take San Diego's pick for San Diego. That's exactly what they want. But if they if they stay at three, um, you know, it's it. They have a tough choice offensive line that tackle who, in my opinion,

is the best player in their draft. Laramie Tunsel can stabilize that offensive line or do they go defensive playmaker the Forest Bucking or a Jalen Ramsey. So Chargers are really a wild card and that will have an impact on number four and where the where the Cowboys go. Absolutely, you know, I was curious and I wanted to ask you guys, is Tounsel falling? I mean, you know that's a good question. It's true. I mean you said it last week. Um, you know, sitting here last Wednesday, we're

thinking Tounsil's going one. Overall pretty in agreement since December that that would be the case, um, due to these quarterbacks that are in this draft. Now, it's looking like he's maybe being at fall That's a great question be there. Yeah,

is he? Is he falling? That? I mean that's because you kind of see if you look at ESPN and you know, and what their mock drafts were yesterday, Stanley was going ahead a Tonsil, and I was sitting there going, man, I mean I got Jack Conklin over Stanley myself on to You're not the only one. See, That's what I'm saying. I'm kind of thinking that. I'm thinking, like, this is

not right. If you're telling me that Stanley's going ahead a tonsil, then I then I need to go and move and open that bar like I talk about every day Taylor, you know, with Costa Rica. I need to figure that out here. Yeah, I need to go do that, because again, you know, I just don't Tonsil to me. I believe he's number one on your draft. Yeah, I've got him a number four on my on my list, But I've never thought about Tunsil falling out of the

top five. And I think if if for whatever reason, if if Stanley ends up going ahead of Tonsil, I think it's purely a personality thing, or that team did not love Laramie Tunsel in terms of his off field or his injury. Yeah, because playwise, I don't know how someone can try and convince me that Ronie Stanley is a better player than Larrmy Tunssel. I think there's a sizeable gap in terms of talent. Agree with you, So

I don't know if it does happen. You know, And to your point about Conklin Stanley at number two, I think that's where the debate is. It's who should good number two from the offensive tackle rice because LARREMYE. Tunsel is clear cut number one. At the end of the day, I still think Larmie Tunsel's a top tackle. I mean, I know some people have had Larymy Tunssel fallowing a little bit, and he could fall he could. I just can't see a scenario where Baltimore Ravens pass on Larremy Tunssel. Yeah.

I don't either, That's what I mean. See, the Ravens are one of those teams, so we and we all love Ozzie Newsom sitting there. It's one of my I mean, I don't love many Obama guys, but I love Osie news to me, sits there with me at the at the Senior Bowl. We interact, we have fun, you know, and and I I just every time he's in a draft, it seems like a great player falls right in his lap, right, you know, he just sits there and like, you know what, I'm just gonna Du'm just gonna fall. Oh whoa, I've

got the best tackle the draft. I sure could use a tackle here. I'll take that guy. You know that seems to happen. But let me ask you this though, Say that San Diego does take Buckner and I'm not trying to get you to take Tonsil. I'm not trying to do it. But man, if Ramsey's on the board, you got bosses on the board, Tonsils on the board. Zeke's on the board. I mean, is he pick up that phone? Your phone's gonna be off the hunt? Yeah? Do you do? You do you try? Do you try

and get out of there? Oh? Yeah, you're your phone lines? You just kinda put the phone there it is, wait for it to ring because it's going to ring. Yeah. And now is there a and enticing enough offer? Yeah? And how far you have to move back and that's the other thing, because you know you're looking at it and you have four awesome players before you just mentioned

with Ramsey, Bosa Zeke and then Tounsil. Right, you can't move away from all four though, I mean you don't want to at least right, you know you want to get in you cat options. You can't trade out of the top ten. That's absolutely true. If you want this playmaker, you really can't. Yeah, you really can't. I did, and I don't know. There's no obvious trade partners. I mean there's a few maybe's. Maybe maybe the Ravens would be spooked and look try to make jump two spots to

get Tonsil. Probably not the Giants, and we talked about that before the Giants going up. How about New Orleans being an aggressive at twelve for a tackle? You think, I mean, or you think they have someone else? I think you have an older quarterback. But then you're moving out of the top ten. Is that something you're calling? Yeah, that's but yeah, that's I don't know. I hope the

phone call, I hope the phone range. If that's the case, well, yeah, bottom line, we're going to see action in that top ten. You know that we saw the two trades, which I don't remember ever seeing two raids like this. Bright as far ahead of the draft, we're going to see more action top ten. Yeah, well and it might be San Diego though, first time, what second time since the seventies that we've seen one, two, three all traded, right, And that's crazy because the thing about Tencil is he is

obviously an elite player. He will be an elite player, Oh, no doubt, you know, ten plus years. The problem that he's facing is that there's so many of these skill position players in this draft that you just can't pass up on. Yeah. I mean, but you said it thoughte that's a ten year player. That's a ten year player. Yeah, you know, you're right, and maybe get picked, maybe paid like Tyrance Smith. Okay, we gotta take our first break.

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If Tunsil falls to Dallas and Dallas decides to trade back, who are the top candidates and who did the boys pick at the new pick? Yeah? Okay, we try to kind of get to that where we were going to go, and it's it's tough because Tunsil is such a such an awesome player. Um, but who are the obvious suspect? You know that we're talking about the Giants? Maybe at ten, right, they need to stabilize that offensive line. Absolutely, so that's a possibility. But I think the Giants needs so much munch.

Could they really part with a second round pick? That's what's it gonna take a second round pick to get up to that fourth spot? Yeah? How about how about we talked about this and just as a just and I don't know if this is shot in the dark, but you know, you don't seem like you want to do it, and I see where you're gonna We need to find out where this thing's gonna hit. At fifteen, I mean that's gonna be the end towards the end

of our first round run. If you want to go back to Tennessee, say Tennessee, Tennessee's got some Amo, I'm gonna try and we've talked about holding them up for forty three forty five, come on up to the store. They also hold They also hold the thirty third pick in this draft as well. So if Dallas could find a way thirty three thirty four, I believe their third round pick would be let's see right here at sixty four.

So if you're the Cowboys and you're thinking about if you want to dance back there and you can get Tennessee, yeah, yeah, you gotta be ready. I'm hitting them for that early pick. I'm I want to I want to back to back. Yeah, if you don't want to give me forty three forty five, okay, I'll take your two top picks in the round and here we go. Man, third round, you get sixty four to sixty seven. There you go. See that's that that

would be enticing to me. And and it would it be would you be willing to give up you know, would you be willing to give up the quality of the player, the quality of the player. Yeah, it's a big that's a big jump. So depending on how I'll just try to you know, you need to think about some guys there at fifteen that would be. That's the hail Mary, that's gonna set up our draft. But remember what you're potentially going to get if we can get

some names. You know, I know the guys have talked about guys Spense, the Dodd you know, right around that's kind of where this thing is gonna You know, may I had loss in a matter of fact myself, Jack Laws in twelve to fifteen rains something like that. So you know that if you're interested, that might be a spot for you to go. But you need Tennessee to call you. If that's that's a that's a big jump for them to get Tonsil what boy, It's sure set you up, though I can't. I'm not moving away from

a top one of these top players. Okay. If I say that happens, Buckner goes three, and those four guys are available for me, I'm either taking one of those four. I'm moving back enough where I know I'm gonna get one of those four. Okay, Matt Delina. With offenses running more five wide receiver sets than ever, is it really that bad to draft Ramsey as a safety and pair

him with Byron Jones thirty one? Well, and this is the debate with Jalen Ramsey is um, you know, Canny, can you draft him as an outside corner or do you have to draft him as a safety or a flex of both? And I think that's the position confusion here, um, And that's why I think there's some hang up with Jalen Ramsey. Um as a corner. To me, Jalen Ramsey's not a top five pick right as a safety if you use him in the right way, top five pick

one of the best players in this draft. So I think it comes down to that question, how are you going to use you talk to people around the league. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you everyone. So I'll sneak away and go visit the people. Yeah, what are people saying about him? Because I admire you for going to making some calls to your buddies around the league. What do you got there? Well, it is interesting because obviously this has been his debate. Is he a corner? Is

he a safety? Where is he best suited on the field? Obviously I wanted to find out this answer. These guys have gone out done these private workouts. A couple of these private workouts have attacked this weakness that is being pointed out for Ramsey particular, the fact that he didn't have these interceptions in college at Florida State. Why what is that? Can he not get up? Can he not get the ball? High? Point ball? Yeah, point ball? You know,

And that's key. If you're going to have a lockdown corner, you're gonna get him at in the top five. You want to have these in interceptions getting up there, going after it. Apparently in a couple of his private workouts, coaches, different scouts have gone out there. You're saying some head coaches,

I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well because it's vital. I mean, you know, if you're gonna say, Okay, we're not going to draft him here, we want him here throwing actually to him, throwing these high balls, seeing if he can get up. Yeah. Apparently he did show them that he could. Okay, and that's new. Yah. I mean when you watch this type like broad Us and I have, I mean you're seeing you're like, okay, why are we gonna get him?

We're gonna is this another you know guy we're gonna go after and he's not gonna be your lockdown corner. So it's it's interesting because of the scheme. Well, and I'm not so much worried about the hands as I am about when you put him a corner, he has to put us back to the ball. You said that a lot. Yeah, that's when I worry he's not as comfortable. Yeah maybe he was sure you see that on tape.

Maybe after some pro coaching and in a scheme, yeah, maybe more friendly to his skills, maybe he will be. But that's when you Okay, you're making a projection here, pretty big projection with a top four pick. So Ramsey is not that slam dunk you know, have to take him type of player depending on how you use him.

There is some debate there. The only thing that I think that valuable to him in this particular defense with Rod Marinelli is the position flex Rod Marinelli, I mean, if you talk to some of these guys that have been around Rod Marinelli as a coach, he is a visionary, Honestly he is, because you know, it doesn't matter the position. He knows what you need to do. I mean, he's been here for how many years in this league just

doing this. Jack Crawford came in and talked about how he really made him the football player he is today. You know, that's incredible to me. Yeah. See, that's the thing about it. Though. We were talking about that yesterday on the show and I asked our guys I was on with Nikki and them, though, is do you do you? And you said this about Marinelli and I don't disagree with what you're saying, but the trust factor of using players that way. You have a visionary for the player,

You understand what the player could do. But are you willing to put him in situations to do that? Are you willing to put him near the line but in blitz let him knock passes down. Are you to put him in the slot. Are you willing to put him on the outside? Are you willing to put him you know, you got to show some creativity. It's one thing to understand that guy at Seattle. He gets it when it comes to hey, I'm gonna put guys in different spots, but I'm gonna get something out of him for putting

them in different spots. Well, I mean, you know Dan Quinn down at Atlanta. Now, yeah, he left because he had the legion of boom and he's trying to do that down at the Falcons. We saw that last year with some of he didn't have the highest playmakers. And one of the teams, and one of the teams that's looking at Ramsey as a corner is the Atlanta Falcons. But they're they're sitting down there, so okay, they probably won't get him. Is Michael Carty? Is Michael Miles Jack

going to slip like Sean Lee. It's so hard to answer this question because we don't know how all thirty two teams think about mile Jack and that an we know how a few teams think. You know, I talked to a few teams that they're they're worried. I mean, they're not going to be drafting him so or at least in the top ten. So we don't know how all thirty two teams feel. And that's at some point. And I think the way some teams feel is we're not sure he's gonna make that second contract, but we

feel good about the player for the next five years. Yeah, And so okay, it might be the reason why you draft Zeke you know that, I mean, just because if you want to, let's just keep drafting. You know, if we got a guy for five This is what this this league has become. It's become I can't afford you anymore. Uh, you know, I can't afford you anymore quarterback that you know Denver to Houston. I can't afford you. Yeah, I

can't think Carolina Panthers, I can't afford you. I mean, that's a that's a confident drafting guy that Dave Gettlman. At Dave Gettlman, he's like, you know what, I'll Okay, I believe in my friend seven. I'll go find me another quarter But so, yeah, I think that you're right about this though me personally, I don't think he gets

out of the top ten. And I do and I'm keeping him at number one on my board because I believe that someone will draft him and I believe he will be everything that I thought he would be as a player, and now he might not be that for this team here. You know, we're kind of hearing some whispers about that. So, you know, I just see somebody saying, you know what, Jeff Lurie made that call for me a while back. Hey, if you feel that good about

this player, let's draft him play ten twelve years? Is it? Well? And it's interesting because Schefter said he believes he is going to get out of the top ten. Yeah, and it's just the thing is, nobody knows because when you're talking about the medicals, that's true. I don't want to. I don't have dr period in front of my name exactly what I but I but I do, but I do play one on TV. Yeah, I do understand a great football play. And I'm yeah, he's number two on

my board. I'm keeping him there because I'm not moving. We don't know for sure, we don't know. We can only trust. We watched the tape, okay, tape. Yeah, he just to get back on Miles Jack. He did you know he left college early to pursue the draft. He has a commitment to the draft. He'll be a good player for any team. But let's get to a couple of questions I've seen. Andre McMillan asked this, and Jay Staylor. Would Fuller fit at thirty four if he is still available?

People hoki Alum wanting to see Okay that Fuller? Yeah not will No, No good thing you said, good thing you said, hoki Alum. Didn't finish it, But I was just seeing Fuller. Two people have asked two Fullers will Fuller? And uh addressed addressed the dress addressed the Virginia Tech Fuller. Yeah, and he coming off the knee another meniscus. Yeah, here we go. But I thought hearing what I heard, but very high on your You're very high in this right.

And what I've heard is that teams are a lot more optimistic with his knee and yeah, so I think there's a little more optimism there. Um. I think he's gonna end up being a steal in the second round thirty four, depending on what the doctors say to me. I think he's worth a pick as long as the doctors sign off. But you know, what are the medical situation because as a player, I do believe he is worth a second round pick. Yeah, I can really both

asked for that. But uh, will Fuller well, and that's aye. That's a different animal because we talk about a one trick pony who's really really good at that one trick. Oh, I'm just my my my second round thirty four guy. You know, I'm just kind of thinking him or Shepherd, and I'm I'm got Shepherd above it. I've got Shepherd above it. I really do it. And this is this is this is going back and saying and you've talked

about starts at nine. It's the old Drake song right, start at the bottom, finish the top something that a Drake's song. Hey help me out on that, and then a Drake song started from the bottom. Now we're here, Is that what it is? Yes? Okay, I try to be a little. I tried to be a little. You

guys are young, missing this point. He's also, you're not wearing your flannel, Yeah exactly, Jack's yeah, yeah, but but but you know what I'm what I'm saying though about gimme Shepherd over Fuller, I'm with, yeah, there's It's just I think there's more you could do with Shepherd, and but Fuller, I'll tell you what. Get the ball in his hand. Too. But you see, well see that's the thing again, more of a one trick pony. He's gonna

he can take the top off a defense. But he's so good at that one trick that he is a valuable player because secondaries have to account for him at every single play because you never know when he can do it. But you're right, get him the ball and then I'm little fun. This was another one of guys that Brian really loved during the season, really hyped until

the Bull season came around and he got injured. Michael wants to know if Jalen Smith falls to the fourth round worth pick he sits this next year or sits this year, starts next year, would would allow you to cut ties with McClane one thirty five, Dan, you're gonna do this one. No, I can't get mean. You just look Jalen Smith. You just you hate it for the player, like it hurts. I saw your smile. It hurts because again started all thirty nine games. It sure gets hurt

in his final game. But when you talk to the medicals, it's just it's not good at all. Yeah, I'm hearing the same thing. It's it's less than fifty fifty that doctor sink will ever played. Okay two nineteen six, seventh round. I think about him, Okay, you know, but it just depends who else is there amazing it. Maybe a team will take a chance in the fourth round May But he got a five million dollars policy on him by the way too, So don't feel terrible for him. But

he that he missed. He's a great kid with the workout that I mean, I'm not going to count them out because of those things. But you know, sometimes when you talk about medicals, nothing you can do, it doesn't realize that he has another brother on this team. Rocksmith well Rod told me everything was gonna be okay, And I tweeted that out like you know, like hey, some inside knowledge right next thing you know, my poor guy is like he might not ever play again. Okay, take

out one more. Any whispers about Detroit sitting at sixteen trading with Dallas for a run. DMC nation wants to know for a tackle going up to get says, any whispers about a Detroit Dallas trade there's new general managers. Yeah, to me, that's not really you know, he cut his teeth. Mister Quinney cut his teeth in New England, New England. It's not really the way to trade up, trade assets to go up. I don't think we're gonna see the Lions do. I think we're We're more likely to see

the Lions trade down. But I think they'll stay where they are, take a good player, hold onto those second third round picks, round out the ross. I'll just give you a team I think will move. I think the Saints are going to I think the Saints you're gonna do something. I think I just you know, just a little Greek you there, as they say, I think that's another team to watch. The Dolphins. Yeah, I think there's a very good chance we see they want don't they

want Zeke? Yeah? And if he's still there at eight, I put put it down brown Amy going up to Cleveland. Browns are getting out of there. They're not gonna draft this year. Yeah, I mean, just keep fraighting back. They're gonna tell what the numbers tell you to do. Numbers keep telling you. Go back, we'll accumulate picks absolutely, top one hundred picks. Yeah, I forget the Day three if you can accumulate those top one hundred picks, not only

this year, but next year. Yeah, that's what you gotta do, tell you. Thanks so much for that. Again, I think I thank everybody for all the questions. I thank ed k Hill for coming up with that. Okay, we're gonna take our final break. When we come back, we're gonna play a little tell me more. We'll be right back

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Toledo guy. Hope not. I love Barry, but uh, tell me more about Milligan. Roland Milligan. This is a guy though, and uh, I don't know I'd be interested to see you know, maybe which you think I'll say this though. Roland Milligan. Though when you watch him play, he can cover some ground. They play him out of the slot. I really like the reactions that he has when you watch him, I mean the ball reactions when he's when he's peddling and he sees the ball the outside, he's

going him, he's planning, he's going. I think he's got a little bit of Barry Church him in this regard to because Barry's still to create turnovers. I know what's happened with Barry in that regard. But you watch Toledo film and you watch a Roland Milligan play, he can create some turnovers. So he's a guy that's probably a well, I'm not gonna say probably he would be a third day guy. Uh, you know, maybe the Cowboys call his name. I know that there's some talk about him, but maybe

another team. But keep an eye on rolling Milligan. If you want a playmaking safety that can cover and also creates some turnovers, right, then he's one of those guys that got stuck in the UAB situation. Yeah, I started there, and then when that program disbanded, he wound up at Toledo. And the first thing that jumped off the film for me was his toughness. Right, dude's tough as nails. Right, And said to me, that's what I took away from from his film. But now I think you've covered him

pretty well. There we go, all right? Who you got tape? Absolutely? My next one is a guy that I've been interested in from a Norfolk State, Dion King. Where do you start looking at Norfolk State tape? Hey, I come from a smaller school, but Mexico, New Mexico. We'll get to my final bonus round, the bonus bonus round. But tell me more about a mister King. Production speaks. Yeah, he had over one hundred and sixty tackles as a senior.

And this is a tri hard guy. You know, he's under six foot, not the biggest guy, shorter arms, but he sees the action, he diagnoses it, and his ability to come to balance on the move, rap tackle finish. It's what you want from a linebacker now, coming from the fyes level, it's a big jump. And this is a guy who's had to prove down as wrong as entire life, and so he did it at Norfolk State. It's hard to bet against him going to the NFL.

But again, the production speaks, Yeah, he's a he's a tick below six foot and two hundred and twenty four pounds. But I will say this in this scheme though, his ability to run is really his forty times not great. But you will see him when the when the ball goes to the outside, I mean he's flying to the football. There's a couple of guys too, they brought into the

kid from Colorado States, Corey James. So keep an eye on Corey James, and good for you on Deon King, because that's another guy that could be as we get to the third day, all of a sudden, you know, maybe they hit him at that one of those six round spots, or it's a priority free agent d end you might see a name like Deon King show up. Okay, yeah, all right, for our big ten people, we got Iowa. So Drew Ott defensive end. Obviously we love we love

getting some of those big ten defense VENs in here. Yep, what do you think about Drew Ott. Yeah, this is a player that was in the news a lot in the last few weeks because he was injured. He appealed for us a fifth year of eligibility from the NCAA. Hadn't her back up until about a week and a half ago, so he was at the combine, but he still hadn't hire an agent because once you hire an agent,

you give up your colligibility. So he was at the combine, but he wasn't able to work out because of that injury. He had a knee and an elbow. He wears a brace kind of like what J. J. Watt does if you've really watched him on tape. He plays with that brake. Had some elbow issues but also had the ACL tear. And so with Drew Odd you have the size that you want, six four and a half two hundred seventy five pounds. You see the initial quickness and this is

a true country farm boy. Oh no doubt that his background, but he plays like a two that gets pretty strong mentality. Absolutely, yeah, he's he's a guy who for your flannel shirt today, you're gonna drop up an Iowa defensive end. This is what it looks like Aaron Canton. We talk about those guys, like all those guys he had the Iowa. I'll say this is bad him. I watched the Wisconsin game and I mean it was like around the corner knocking the ball out, looking for the ball. But you're right, country

strong guy, really good with his hands. Yeah, I mean he's one of those guys that can leverage play the outside chase on the backside. Though a lot of positive things about Drew. He heard his knee, I want to say it was October twelfth, So he kind of in that mode right now. Yeah, where he's at. So, but uh, but a good player six six four two seventy three kind of fits the measurables of that for three defensive in all right, Bonus, I bug brought us about this

guy all the time. I know you've watched him, brought us, made him watch him. Yes, this goes out to everyone in New Mexico. Really appreciate it, obviously. I remember you guys all the time. Got that's why I got my start. Uh, Darrell Presley running back out in New Mexico. Could he be here in Dallas now? I just want him a lobo to join me here in Dallas. Don't don't hate me for this, but I think he could be a really good safety. That's the one I thought when watching.

Why would I hate you for that? Well, I mean trying to get him in the league. Yeah, exactly, And you know he you look at his sophomore in junior years, he was averaging over nine yards of carry. Yeah, like like the most productive quiet Davy screwed him up the pistol offense. Yeah, but he's still ever six point two yards as a senior, so it's not we're not talking about a slouch here. Um. No. I like he's a little undersized, um. But again I kind of like a

possible transition to safety that would make sense to me. Yeah, I was watching him on tape, member because you said that, You're like, what are you gonna watch anybody from New Mexico? So I sat down. But I say, with Dane's seeing with the guy because you know they hand him the ball, you don't always see that explosiveness, you know, you see some, but you do see some toughness about break a couple of those tackles, right, I mean it's like break a tackle,

break a tackle, will run, you know. Yeah, So I would be that's a nice projection though on your part, that's outside thinking if you don't think he could be a back because he has the size obviously, he has the toughness, so that it made very tough minded. Yeah. Maybe maybe we'll get a little and don't worry New Mexico people I've been in will mcclayzier about him. So we'll see if he's if he's here the you know, the rookie weekend. But uh, yeah, that's all I have

for okay, thanks very much. All right, Kit Garrison, the program here. We've got about ten minutes. I always get accused of not taking enough calls. So folks, we're all doing very well. We're grateful to have Taylor in with us today. So let's let's line these things up and get your calls. So, Kit, what do you got one of the regular Sam and san Antonio? You're up? Hey, guys, um, I wanted to ask you, Um, cowboys are able to

get Jaylor Rams in the number four pick. I don't care whether he first of all, I don't care if his safety or cornerbacks. He's a he's a stud I'd love having. Okay, but if if, how how much can we go up and let's say packs, unless we're to fall into the latter teams, how much would it take for us to go up and get ahead of the Jets as far as with that second pick in the first the second pick overall I was in and second round, could we package two next year to go ahead and

go up and uh and making ahead of them? Because I really want Paxson Lynch. That would be my drink scenario if we can come away with Paxson Lynch and get back into the first round after making the selection of Dale Ramsey. Again, I do not want Joey Bosa. I just wanted to go ahead and leave that out there. If y'all appreciate what y'all do, y'all have a great day for us. Thank you very much, appreciate it all Right.

The place I was going to try and get to, I thought I could get to the Jets because they've already talked to their gym about doing that deal. I don't think they would take Paxton. I don't know. Maybe they would now maybe maybe once they sit down and look at this, maybe with the situation that they're in, right, i's kind of hopeful that Mike mcagnan would allow us to come dance up in there. Uh. In my mock right now, I have Paxton going twenty to the Jets.

That's just kind of so he's rising. Let me ask you this, rising, he's in that late first right, let me ask you this, Let me ask you this, and and I know this, this this will be the scenario that you don't want to hear, but I'll say it anyway. What if you did trade to Tennessee at fifteen to take Packs the Lynch at fifteen? I think he has

to be in the conversation. Yeah. I mean if you if you project him as you know, a future NFL starter or a guy that can be you're the next franchise guy, then if you're projecting him at at ear projecting him at twenty, you feel good enough about it to potentially him at I think he's like number nineteen on my board. So yeah, I think he's in that range. And the thing about I don't think there's clear separation.

We talk about our boards, you know, like one to two, three to four or five to six, you know, eighteen to nineteen. It's more in groups and tiers, and so I think you feel similar about guys in the eleven to you know, twenty one tier or you know whatever it is. So Packs the Lynch, I think you should be in that conversation if that is the move. These two trades at the top of the board, top of the draft probably wipe Dallas out of taking a first

round quarterback. I agree at four yeah, oh absolutely, I don't I know you like Packs the Lynch, I just I don't, especially because I think you could get him in the teens. See that's what I'm saying. But if if you told me that, if if you told me, my hope is still and Sam's I mean he wants Ramsey. You know that's okay. But but I'm not getting you know, you don't care about the corner safety thing though that

should that's a that's a big deal. But the fact that they protected themselves by the range of quarterbacks they've had come through here with hack and burg with with with Daxon Prescott, with Cook with that's the big debate. With with Brissette, they protected themselves as far as the quarterback play goes. The winner of these two trades was Packiston Lynch. It really was. I mean, when you want to look at it, obviously you know Tuns will probably

hurt from it, but Packston Lynch now might rise. You know. When it all started, he was what your bottom of the first quarterback? Yeah, your third one. I can kind of see. I could kind of see him fitting at San Francisco with the way they play the option and all. I mean, I my struggle with Packston Lynches. I just think he's so I think three, three to five years from now. I think he could absolutely be one of the best quarterbacks from this class. I just worry about

the here and now and so it's fine. You know, if you're gonna take Packson Lynch, I think he has to sit. You have to bring them along at his own pace. How early can you take a player like that? You know? And that that's my hang up with Hatch. Thanks you called there, Sam. Obviously it depends on what San Francisco is going to do with their quarterback. They feel like they so no, but it is interesting. Yeah. Great Kip Lee in Atlanta, Lee, Happy Friday. Hey you're

killing it. Thank you. Um real quick, guys, UM, I'll say this, the two trades have have done this. I think for the Cowboys it put us in a no lose situation. I mean, whether we stay in and get a guy or whether we go back to and I think the numbers fifteen. Um, we can go back to fifteen and get picks, maybe even get picks for next year and use those to get back up to get another quarterback. No one knew about Carson Wentz and and a guy in from Memphis. You know, this time last year, right,

m Ryan, this question is for you. I do love Joey Bosa. I am not I'm a Michigan fan. Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I didn't mean to try off side, Sarah, but go ahead. But you love Zeke. Okay, there you go. But but this is my question for you, if just watching the last two Alabama games. As far as just strong side ends, we won't talk about quarterback pressure right now, but just as strong side, d n Kim Deech is a good enough athlete. I think he's better than Bosa.

I think I think in the long run. He was a high school running back down in Grayson, down in Georgia where I live, and he has got freakish athletic ability for a three hundred pounder and he played into four to three in high school and in college. Um, he can see he has the position flex but I think he could be. I think he'd be every good as playing the run and maybe even pass rush as Bosa would be. UM, which means what in saying that you know based on what your opinion is, I think

we were. We can move back to fifteen anyway. Have a great weekend, guys, Love the show. Talked to you later. Thank you. It sounded like he started off with steam and then he got just frustrated at the end of it. For you, I don't know, go ahead, I know it, Kim Deech, I don't know how he and scare the heck out of you. Yeah, because, yeah, you know, but he Georgia key. He's talking about a Georgia kid and

the body control, the flexibility. He's right, yeah, dci if you watch the Flashes, you watch the Alabama game, Yeah, top ten picks, the top five, pick a guy that you consider with the number one overall. Sure, but when you watch the whole body of work, and you know, people get on Joey Bosa for having five sacks. Yeah, this Kim d in thirty four get seven sacks. You're right, and he's the first to admit he was lazy. Yeah, how do you draft a guy like that who admits

he was lazy? I get the Flashes, I get how talented he is, but how could you have any confidence that he's going to reach that ceiling? This is where scouts get in trouble. The Flashes. Oh yeah, the Flashes. He doesn't want him to do it again. You know what but then again, you got to look at the kid in the face and see if he's lying to you or not. Noah Spence is going through the same

thing right now. Absolutely. Team teams are looking at Noah Spence and they're saying he's a fraud, you know, he's lying to me, or they're saying, you know what, I believe the kid, I believe. It's that's split. It's a split. I like the fact the Alba box thinking on Kim Dici. I've seen him play in and I do on the move. He's tough. Yeah, here with Marionelli again. Yeah, but then again, work with Marionelli was Randy Gregory and you know, and

Marcus Lawrence and yeah, yeah, exactly. He's not wrong about the talent and how good he could be. Yeah, I just don't know how you could have any confidence that he'll reach that peak, reach how good he could great question. I watched the full special on Kim Dici actually this past week. Just I'm very fascinated by him. You know,

he's obviously this big time guy. His big thing going into the combine was his forty So he's right on the fact that he is athletic, three hundred pound guy worried about his forty not normally what you hear, but uh, what will they do with him? Will a team take a risk on him? Ravens could take a risk with him. You know, he might be an interesting guy to fit there with the Ravens. That's in my second round mock. I had Kim Dici going fall into the Ravens talking

about a guy that we're on. It's the flannel. Oh yeah, it's the full and that's the talking about the Ravens. Yeah, just sticking where they are and yeah, next you know what we're talking about. We should have taken it and lead and Lee and George is gonna go. You know what I called you about that? Candici guy? What were you guys thinking? What's everyone saying about Randy Gregory right now? I know should have seen it coming, No, I know. Oh yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot of both ways.

Oh it does go all right, can't give it to us? Yeah. David in Appleton, Wisconsin, David and Appleton have even at your chilies before. What's up? David? Very nice? Hey guys looking quick question. Um, I wonder if you can tell me the difference between mole Claiborne and Ramsey because everything I've heard about Ramsey this year as far as the best cover corner in the draft, if not the best defensive player in the draft, is exactly what I heard

in twenty twelve regarding Claiborne. I love this question, David, Thank you very much. I love this question because an enemy territory. I love Wisconsin fans, though good football than give. I was walking my dog this morning and just I'm thinking about everything going on right now, and I thought about that question popped in my mind, Like you know, I couldn't shoot any holes and mo I mean that that's seeing some similarities between the two when you're talking

about Jale Ramsey strictly as a corner. Yeah, and so yeah, I think it's a fair question. What do you think about that? See, that's what I all along. I thought he was a safety exactly. I mean all along. But I if you said, who's a better corner if they if both these guys are in the straft, I mean, I'm even giving you the kid. I'm giving you the Florida kid is a better corner. Sure, I'm giving you

a Hart's the argument I'm giving you. I'm giving you a guy who plays small as a better corner, you know, so that that's my concerned And Mo Mo was, you know what, I've got six buddies. You every gets tired of hearing you say they had six buddies are general managers in this league. And I asked him about that. Would you have done the deal for Mo every one of them? Yeah? He was our best corner, absolutely, But I didn't get the I didn't get the feeling they'll

listening to them say that he couldn't play corner. This this kind of is one of those things where people are like saying, hey, you know, you got guys like Dion Sanders potentially saying he can't play corner. If Campo, I mean, guys in this building, guys at Jerry Jones listens to right, it'll be interesting to see if they, in fact, you know, go that route. I mean, I think that you know, it's going to be one of those you know what, We're not going to listen. We're

not gonna listen. We're gonna we're gonna focus in on what we're gonna do and go that round. Ramsey's a phenomenal athlete, so I think he will get better at that corner. But he's also very leggy. He doesn't really have a twitch, and his hips sounds like what's the stuff that Sanders is saying? Right? And and then if that's that's a Florida state crime on crime though right there now, so be careful, all right, one more call kit Yeah, Brandon in Kansas City, got the last word, Brandon,

bring us some barbecue? What do you got? I got some barbecue. So my amateur level evaluation of Joey Bosa was actually kind of helped a little bit by watching highlights of Darren Lee and Eli Apple right um, every time that they made a big play, Bosa was within a couple feet of the quarterback, putting pressure on him. So this is kind of sets why a little bit.

So that being said, as soon we're picking at number four, is it more helpful to our secondary to have Bosa or is it more helpful to our d line to have Ramsey at either position? And h Taylor, I like your watch. I think it's an old boyfriend's gift. Old boyfriend. Okay, thank you very much for the call their brand chicken egg argument. You know, does the pass rush help the secondary or does a good secondary help your pass rush.

You know, I'm inclined to believe give me the pass rush, given you guys up a pressure on the quarterback and you can get away with some maybe some holes in the secondary. But you know, we've debated Joey Bosa all along. But I do agree with what he said about how

you know, yes, he had five sacks last year. But if you're just if that's the hang up, then you're not watching him on tape, you know, you're not doing the world No, and and Brandon, I think he made a very good point because you do watch some of those other guys play, and Bosa's in he's in position and again and he's facing double teams, and trust just what you're gonna get it. Yeah, that's will be it

to me. That shows that he's an a selfish player too, you know, if he's willing to set these other guys up. Obviously Ohio State has ten guys going to Chicago next week. Yeah, you know that's a huge thing to say, But you're right, why do you want to let the ball get out of the quarterback's hand? Why would you risk that. Let's get it out, you know, let's stomp him there. Yeah, and uh be aggressive on the in the front seven

bands want a special player at four. I'm not sure there's a special player that's going to be there now, Miles. Jack could have been, Yeah, he could have been if if he would check out. Okay, we're gonna be back with him next week. Than you are they gonna take I'm gonna put you on the spot here. I'm gonna go with what sources are saying. We got a Zeke coming Todas, We got Zeke in the building, Zeek in

the building. Okay. Well, for my buddies, Dave Brewer, we'll be back next Tuesday, Draft show and all Tuesday Wednesday and then covering the draft for for Dane, for Taylor Stirt. Thanks again so much, buddy for bringing a lot of energy to the show. We appreciate that, can't Garrison, thank you for keeping us on the air. Thanks everybody out there for all the tweets, the questions that calls, Lee, David Brandon, Sam, you guys were all great today. We

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