Draft Show: How Dak Deal's Impacts the Draft?

and the deal has been done. Dak Prescott has been signed. Welcome into the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft shows. We talk about the dominoes of the Dak deal one hundred and sixty million dollars divvied up over four years, but regardless, it's done and we don't have to talk about it really past the next couple of days, thank goodness, into twenty twenty one and the rest of the off season.

Glad you're with us here on the Draft show. Brian brought us Bucky Brooks, David Hellman, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and Dave. It's nice just knowing that, Hey, it's in the past. And then also, hey, you have your franchise quarterback, and the Cowboys, well, thank goodness not have to really look into drafting a quarterback, especially early in this April's upcoming draft.

Oh my god, It's like my prayers were answered, like the degree to which I was unhappy this time last week listening to Brian brought us in Bucky Brooks try to outline the Cowboys future without a quarterback. We don't

have to listen to it anymore. I made the analogy earlier this morning, is like, it's like we can finally press play on a movie that's been paused for like an hour and a half, Like we can finally start talking about building this roster for twenty twenty one and for the next few years to come, because we know it's all going to revolve around Dak Prescott. You know, we don't have to talk about whether they should draft a quarterback or trading packages and all that type of stuff.

We can just build the best team possible with the franchise quarterback. And holy cow, is that a relief? Is there any resentment from Bucky Brooks? Sir Brian brought us on the fact that, hey, there is a franchise quarterback here and the money has been dished out because I know you guys were trying to draft Mac Jones at ten last week and that's not happening anymore. I felt like Brian brought us and I we're just having a discussion that you have to have in a wardroom. At

some point. You have to prepare for all scenarios. And if Dak Prescott wasn't signed, or if he was planing on print attack, for just from a due diligent standpoint, we have to talk about the quarterback and so it's one of the things that you have to do. And with the deal coming in the way that it came in, I think one of the under reported aspects of the deal the cap space that was saved by putting him on a deal because the Cowboys, unlike a lot of teams,

they're rich in cash and cash is king. And this because they could fork over sixty six million and cash, they now can reduce his cap down to twenty two million. It enables them to go out and actually shop a little bit on the free agent market, would help them build a team. Yeah, I think this is Bucky's rioting. It just took Bucky Night, you know, two hands to shove Stephen Jones into getting this deal done, and no,

I'm getting it. But the thing that the thing that's interesting about it is that you start to hear the deal was done basically in one day. And I know there's all kinds of build up and all that, but it just goes to show you if you have people that are motivated to getting something done, you can get it done in this league. And this is what the Cowboys needed to have happened in order to get their

offseason going. They had to get their quarterback done, you know, one way or another, whether it was signed him, the tag, play on that trade him. I mean, they had to get something done. And if you look at it, the best thing, the best scenario that could have happened for the Cowboys happened. So now you can focus on the offseason. Bucky's talking about cap space. You gotta probably have to flip a couple of contracts to get some more space, but at least you could play in this game now

and then now you can worry about the draft. You can say, okay, at ten, do we need to take an offensive player a defensive player? What direction do we want, Hey, coaches, what do you think Now the Cowboys offseason can get going for real and they could work on now fixing this football team that last year was six and ten. And you make a really good point because free agency couldn't have started without knowing what kind of piece of the pie that Dak Prescott was ultimately going to take up.

You couldn't have started your draft prep without thinking, hey, we might have to take a quarterback at ten rather than maybe one of these top corners like Patrick's zutan or out of Alabama or Caleb Farley Virginia Tech. And then then you have to go from there. Dad was the starting point. He was that first domino to fall, Brian, But where do they go now? Because that's the biggest question with this football team. There are a lot of spots, and we talked about it kind of over the course

of the Trap Show. But now that they can actually start looking, what is the next step for this for this front office to kind of find a rhythm and find the guys that they need in order to build around their quarterback. Yeah, they have to. They've already figured out that the coaches that they had on their defensive staff weren't good enough, you know they you know that was that was number one, and you know, really shame on Mike McCarthy, And again I suck, I'm hammered him,

and I guess I am. But you know, you had a whole year to put together a staff and you end up firing three coaches off his staff, you know. So now you're back to square one with the defense. But yeah, it's gonna be about Okay, what is Dan Quinn? What have hid the traits to characteristics? What is he looking for in his defense? You know? What is what Joe Wit? What is he looking for in the secondary? You know what's going to happen with the defensive line?

You know, I mean all these things. Now the scouts have got to recalibrate in their mind, like, Okay, these are guys that I looked at earlier in the year. Maybe this guy didn't fit. Oh wait, now this guy does fit. There's a lot of that back and forth. But this is going to be a really important offseason for these defensive coaches to kind of to tell their ideas or their vision of what they want in a

defensive player. You know, we talk about offensive players that seems to be okay, for the Cowboys, it's the defensive side of the ball that you need to kind of start to worry about again. Coaches, players finding a way to get those two things together because they can't have what happened last year to them on defense. They again, they just it was it was a mess how that all shook out last year. You know, Brian, it's funny that that you're talking about, like building around the team.

I think championship teams have to have twelve blue chip players and they need to be at certain positions. Quarterback, you need a running back, wide receiver, three offensive lineman, two pass rushers, an off the ball playmaker, and then two guys in the secondary. And so when you look at this Cowboys team and you look at the way their cap has been allocated, Prescott Cooper, Elliott, Tyron Smith,

d Law, Zach Martin. We have Jalen Smith who's making money, but I don't know if he's necessarily a blue chip player based on how he plays on the field. Lell Collins could be in that conversation at offensive tackle. The issues that I see would be pass rusher, safety, and either Trayvon Dix has their merged as an elite corner, or they have to draft in the league corner. So we're talking about three marquee positions that need to be feeled for this team to on paper it be considered

a team that can buy for a championship. And that's honestly, that's what makes this whole thing exciting for me, is like, we finally get this dumb domino out of the way and we can have these conversations. You know, now we can begin you know, I always compare it to a roadmap. You can start to look at that map and say, all right, what are they going to do in free agency? What type of free agents does dan Quinn want to acquire? You know, are they going to go after a certain

type of defensive tackle? Do they maybe bring Gerald McCoy back, or is there somebody else that they have in mind? Is can dan Quinn convince this front office to invest in a safety? And that you know, Brian said it a minute ago. Obviously you never want to speak too definitively, but offensive tackle is maybe the only offensive position that I could see this team drafting with a super high pick. Would y'all agree with that? Yes? I think less and

less though that they do what they did last year. Yes, Like I said, I mean, you can't. You don't want to say it as a blanket statement, but just in general, yeah, yeah, And so now we're talking, you know, and now that now that we've got this Dak Prescott thing out of the way, I can sit here and say, yeah, I bet, I bet Caleb Farley or Patrick's Artan is going to be the pick at ten that helps you address your secondary. Then we can move down the line. You know, how

do they feel about Jayalen Smith? Can they fix him? Do they need to draft a linebacker highly? Do they sign a safety and free agency? Or do they maybe go after a Ritchie Grant or one of the guys? You know, I don't know the answer to these questions, but we can start diving into it a little bit more now that we've got some clarity. Well, Dave, I want to say this, like justin thinking about your draft strategy, because I think we're so like focused on the defense.

I think the best defense is a great offense. And I think if you're the Cowboys, I think if you're Mike McArthur, you're looking at your team. It takes a

lot of work to build a dead defense. I don't think you would take as much work to make the offense a dominant offense where you're thinking about putting thirty points a game, and so if you build strength on strength, to me, I would go all in on trying to find an elite offensive tackle at ten, because if I have an elite offensive tackle on ten, I can leave this offense alone theoretically for a year or two and then put everything else onto the defense, because when you

give Dak forty two million plus a year, you're seeing we need to start the game with thirty on the board. If we get thirty on the board, I don't need the defense to play at a top ten level. I just need you to be middle of the pack pass rushers, interceptions,

those things. And so it just depends on if Mike McCarthy and those guys can say, if we're gonna play complimentary football, the best way for us to play complimentary football is let the offense go and then we'll just play from ahead on defense, much like the Kenzie the Chiefs have been able to do. And the way that Dan Quinn is coming into the defense, you would hope that he goes from a thirty second round defense or a thirty first ranked defense and puts the middle of

the pack. You don't need that top ten caliber. Like you said, Bucky and Dave, I think I kind of leaned more toward what Bucky saying rather than what you just said of since the Dack deal is done, you could look at corner. I think since the Dack deal is done, it puts more emphasis in trying to protect him and protect the assets that you have on offense.

It's not just Dak. It's the money with Zeke, it's the money with Cooper, it's the tight ends, it's the it's the wide receiving corps that's been impressive, and then of course the offensive line that you've built in the past. So don't you think that the Dack deal might even lead more so to being enticing to taking a tackle or a guy like rashauns Later out of Northwestern up

at that tenth pick. I've done this long enough. Well, I mean, you know you're not gonna get me to say one hundred percent yes or one hundred percent no. You got to weigh these things on a case by case basis. What fun is that? I come on, stop it, man, stop it. Heaven Opinion stop it. Neither one of you have ever neither one of you would have ever predicted that Ceedee Lamb would fall to seventeen. So yeah, I mean, you got to you gotta do this stuff. Case by case.

I think I am much higher. I'm much higher on Tyrn Smith and Lyle Collins being okay this season than a lot of other people are. And that doesn't I'm not saying ignore the depth at the position. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, Uh, you know, maybe you draft that guy in the second or the third ground you knowing, Hey, fine, I mean if you if you don't like it, I mean, if we're gonna do that, we might roll Brennon night and tern sill out there

and see the thing. Oh stayed three agent, We're toss a fifty pig and test position. Stop. That's shopping to sales rereg like, go and get a guy if we're gonna get what we're talking about an opportunity to take one to the the top two. So you guys, you're telling me has been hurt every year? Every year is Gary See like the first and the fifteenth you get a paychecks. True, he is going to miss four or five games. At

some point, we gotta get a tackle. There's a big there's a big difference between missing three games, which is what he usually misses, and missing the entire season. And you're trying to tell me. You're trying to tell me if I can get one of those corners at ten and then draft and Alex Leatherwood at forty four, Like that's that's not good enough. It's a it's a bigger difference. Like the Cowboys are the only team in the league that has to have a first rounder at every position

on the offensive line. We're like, they're like the only team where you can let's trying. Why is that? Don't skip? Don't don't skip because you shouldn't need a blue chip player at every position on the offensive line to have a good offense. That just I think it works out days. You could say the same too. You can say the same thing. So you can appreciate your block form upfront this year, that'd be nice for him. He'd appreciate yet

that y'all are y'all are insane? Hey, if they draft, if they draft for Sean Slater or Penay Sewel, I won't I will not dislike that pick. But the idea that they absolutely have to is ridiculous. So here here, here's the difference. Like, here's what you do in the comparison, Like we talked about cluster busters in the like. What you want to do is what is the separation between Certien Caleb Farley and the next tier of corners versus what is the separation between the offensive tackles Penay Seul

Rashawn Slater and the second tier of offensive tackles. Typically there's a bigger drop off and offensive tackles. I'm not saying that you can find a corner anywhere, but you can find a corner anywhere. We're celebrating dray Bon Dix. He was a second round pick, you know. So I'm just saying it is not as it's not as if any of these corners in the draft, or Dion Sanders

or Jalen Ramsay or anything like that. So if it's close, you go to the big guy, because you can find a guy that you can put out there and play at corner. I think that's a really simplified idea of how hard it is to find good corners play in this league. I mean, I know Richard Sherman was you know, a fifth round pick. But like, how many top tier cornerbacks fall out of the first thirty or forty picks in the draft? Okay, so let me so so so let me teach you this. Would you want Damon Arnette

to play corner here's a first round pick? Oh? I mean, but we didn't. We all think that was really weird, like the Raiders do. We have Raider stuff every year. I just know he's a first round pick, like first round picks that we're talking about. C. J. Harris wrote that, or I don't want to say just just guys, but I'm just saying, like, I think that position, that position is much easier to find in a premiere offensive tackle.

I would invest in the bigs more so than the locals. Well, I ask you questions in real quick here, because you do find work with Daniel Jeremiah old you know, old scout, old guy. You know. He thought is that there's a huge drop off between the top corners and the next tier of corners. And I mean he was talking about this on Peter King's podcast thing. He was saying, Hey, you know, offensive tackles all look good, which to your

point is right. But he's saying, if you don't draft a corner early, you're not going to get a good corner. Do you disagree with him on that? Yeah? I disagree. I disagree. I disagree because I think corner ability a lot is predicated on scheme. I think if you have a very clear view of how you want to play, I don't believe that the separating factors are so vast

that you can't find a guy. So if we can project how this team is going to play based on what they did in Atlanta, the corners that you need are one of two. They need to be long, they need to be ranging, and they can be man to man guys or they can be his own guys because they could build a lot. It just depends. I mean, we're talking about Greg Newsom from Northwestern being guy like

whether he's in the first round or whatever. But think about the amount of name that we have listed at corner that we talked about ast Samuel, we talked about the Colman kid from George, I mean the guys I mean like so to me, it's easier to find those athletes to figure out how to play versus the big guys, And a lot of it is predicated on who's your secondary coach. Do you have a secondary coach that is

an X and o's guy, or he's a teacher. Joe Witt is a teacher developer type, and so if you can have someone that you can bring it, I think you can play with one of those younger guys. I mean, I was just curious, though Beside's curious because you know, Danny, I have the utmost respect for the work you guys do. I have the most respect for everybody that sits down and watches his tape and has an opinion on this.

I did. I thought it was interesting because I tend to agree with you, Bucky on I don't want to reach for a corner. But I'll tell you what I feel better about corners in that second and third round then I do than offensive tackles in the second or third round. So if you were if you told me I have to address I have to address the offensive tackle position because of what I think is going You know what could happen with Tyrn Smith. You know Lyle

Collins the hip and all that. I understand what you're going with right there. I mean that that is a hard position to find, but I do think I don't agree with Daniel either. I think that this thing could stretch a little bit better at corner. So if you did mean me personally, I'd love taking Pits. I mean, I think he is a weapon. You want to start talking about putting pressure on it. That's where I mean. That's putting pressure on people. That is putting some serious

pressure on people. And even Daniel yesterday on a tweet he was saying, hey, give me the guy you think could be a Hall of Fame player in ten years. He did, Pits would start thinking, oh, okay, yeah, I go maybe he's stupid like me. Then you know that he likes this guy. But I'm just saying though that I think that to me, the corner position stretches a little bit better than what the tackle position. And I don't want to. I don't want to reach for a I don't want to. I don't if you don't feel

good about those early corners. If you don't, then the safe pick is to go with the offensive lineman. Let me say something that's really gonna piss y'all off the Yeah, it's my turn to, it's my turn to, it's my turn this. Wow, you don't wanna you like, you don't want to draft for need, right, but just think about what this team is positioned to handle. Okay, you got Tyrn Smith and Lyle Cole. Yeah they're healthy, maybe they're

not healthy if that doesn't happen. Uh, You've got Zach Martin, who proved he can do that if he needs to at a decent level. You've also got these two deve elemental guys who weren't amazing, Terrence Steele and Brandon Knight, but like, you feel good they're on your team and they can come in and compete and continue to develop as players. And then maybe you add a draft pick to that that seems like a decent amount of help

at the offensive tackle position. Whereas right now, we'll see what they do in free agency, but we know they're not going to spend a ton of money. So you got Treyvon Diggs, you got Anthony Brown, and then you got a whole lot of not inspiring stuff between young players. And you know, Maurice Kennedy's coming back, but he's a he's a career special teams guy. Like you don't have anybody that you can count on to handle their job.

You're not wrong, and I'm saying, though, to me, if you're the cabist, and I hate riding the fence on this, but you know I do. I do. I understand what Bucky's saying about your investment at quarterback, but I'm going to need the quarterback too to make some plays when it's not perfect, you know, when everything up. But I also want to be able to say, if I could take the best cornerback in this draft, if I could get the best one, yeah, I mean, I'm all for it, but I I do. I like, I don't think you

could go wrong with either spot. I really don't. I like, there's a coward answer. It's all right, absolutely right, No, you're right. It is a coward answer. It's a it's a completely coward answer. But to me, if to me, if you told me I could get Farley, yes I'm in. But if you tell me I gotta get Sir Tan, who I have Horn over? I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm maybe I'm the one guy in this whole world that likes Horn other than his mom. And I like Horn a lot. I think he needs to be

in that top three conversation as well. Bron I like, I think I think the three of them are closely lumped together. I think, what has happened. We have blown up Caleb Farley to mythical proportions. Like I know he didn't play last year like, but I feel like and if we go back and we really look at how he played, Look, he's a solid player. I know people talk about the speed or whatever on tape. I actually had questions about his ability to recover and play down

the field. Also, when you go back and you think about Virginia Tech corners and how they're deployed. I know he's a boundary corner, but he's a bigger guy who prefers to play off and so he makes some plays. But it's not like he is a ball magnet with a ton of interceptions that is making play after play after play after play. When I think about Okay, JC Horn, passer ten and Caleb far they have them in one lump.

When I look at Elijah Molden, I think I can make a case for Elijah Malden's then not only be the best knuckle, but that's a starting position in today's game. I think about Melifonu, who is long and range, you who appears to fit what the new norm at corner would be Tyson Campbell, Eric Stokes. Like, there are a ton of guys that we're going to be sitting there

because here's what happened in the draft. We talk about all these names and we're gonna be looking in the second round and there's gonna be a clump of players that are really good players and we'll be like, oh wow, Like I know, we mocked him to be in the first round. Everybody can't go on the first round. They're going to be some athletes and available in the second round. No, you're right, and you mentioned we talked about Newsom. I'll tell you the two. I think the two organ kids

can play, you know. I mean, yeah, there's there's going to be a listen. That's where again, I don't agree with Daniel Jeremiah about the fall off because I think those guys are all kind of right there with each other. So my point is, if you told me we had to take a tackle and it's like it came down to a tackle or certan I'm going to tackle, I'm sorry.

I'm gonna go with the tackle right there, because I'll say, you know what, I'll take my chances of the quality in the second round at forty four with one of those guys that I like just as much. That's what everybody think of. Brian's on the offensive tackle train. He's on the offensive tackle train. Bro. I just know. I mean, hey, this guy, this kid is gonna have to play guard. Yes, you, He's gonna have to play guard. He's gonna play guard.

I mean, g guess who plays left guard? Elijah Vera Tucker. Yeah, I mean, is absolutely right about that. Yeah, I mean to me, I am saying no, no, but if you, if you told me, I could get one of those top tackles and move Slater inside for a year or whatever to figure things out by by all means, but I could said, given if it's and maybe maybe I'm guilty of the whore love and the Farley love. I'll admit that I'm looking. Look, I like him. I'm not

disparaging Farley look, boundary, zone, skills, instincts, awareness. I wrote down into about of my nose Seattle Atlanta system, which is how the Cowboys want to play. The one thing I wrote down questions about speed. Is he a true number one corner? That that was my big thing. I like the toolbox and all that other stuff. I just wondered, is he a top ten dog at one? Because they did you put this? Did you put the same note for Certain? Did you say what? What was your same

note about Certain? Because if you didn't say that, then now I'm really questioned in you, which I didn't say that. If I didn't say, I'm just curious, Like I'm just curious, what did you what did you think Certain can run? No? I think I had the same thing. My question with all Alabama corners are how fast are they? I think they did a great job of playing within the system. They understand exactly how to do it. But I had questions about Diggs last year in terms of his long speed.

That's that's fair, That's fair. I think for whatever reason, I think they end up having i Q guys on the perimeter more so than the explosive athletes. I think Ohio State might put a greater premium on the dynamic athletes to play outside. So all I know is I've never seen so many people just trying to complete And

it pains me to say this about it Alabama. I don't like Alabama, but like so many people just want to dis credit a guy for holding down half the field at the best program in America for three years. Like I'm if, I'm absolutely fine with that. I don't think anybody's just crediting him at all. I Oh, everybody's looking for a reason why actually that good? Like if they don't. And I like Caleb, I like Farley a lot,

and I even I like jac Horne as well. But like, I think it's it's a classic case of like people get tired of talking about the same guy. They're like, oh, do we have to talk about Patrick Curtan again, because there's nothing else to talk about. I mean, I'm just I think people go out of their way to poke holes in his game. Yeah, I think I have curtain over Farley because I think Sir Tan plays the game. Obviously, some of this is his dad's influence in seeing how

his dad has played. I think he has a natural knack to being able to read and understand routes and the way that he plays. I think he plays like a prom. I think there's a I think there's a separation though, between jac Horn. I think jac Horn may be the most dynamic of them all in terms of the fism, but I also think that he's probably the most undisciplined of them all too. I think there's a wider various in his boom bus plays compared to what the other guys may bring on a down by down basis.

I agree. I think that's want you want, you want. Yeah, you're just looking for the safe guy, then, Bucky, is that what you're telling me? You're just like, you know, getting a hit. So I'm a base I'm a basis. I'm a baseball player hard, and I know you can win a lot of games hitting doubles. You hit singles and doubles, you can win a lot of games. You don't have to doubles. What on earth? What on earth is wrong with a safe pick? Like, there's nothing wrong,

there's nothing saying no, no, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Like Certan is almost boring to watch play because he's good, that's my good player. People are just bored. They're like, oh, I'm tired of talking about this really good corner from Alabama. Let's let's do something crazy instead. I don't. He won't tell you, buck, he won't tell you about his speed because he's got to

miss this number one guy. That's why one No, no no, no, but I got that even But but I said the same thing about Caleb Farley, spe like you don't how are you necessarily Farley? But what are you gonna do with Caleb Farley if he runs four three? And I wanted to get into this, by the way, are we gonna get influenced by what guys run when we start

getting these real times from pro days? Our opinions going to Well, I had Sirtan up here and it happened to the Mississippi State kid last year watching that tape that yeah, we're watching that kid play that. All of a sudden he ran four to five eight. Well, I guess we got to drop him down a couple of rounds, now, don't we. No? I mean I will be greatly influenced because I would say this. I would expect him to run fast. He hasn't done anything but trained four years.

I mean I would expect him to be at his best. He's trained for three hundred and sixty five days to run a forty. If he can't clock a track time now, he'll never be able to clock it. But if you go back and watch him on tape, and let's just say, is the acc of Vontik Conference is when it comes to producing high end wide receivers like Elside of Clemson, Like who, what are we really talking about? Like, yeah, I'll tell you what. My god, my game and North Carolina.

But I'm just saying when we match up and we watch him, we're watching him versus guys that are Okay, where Sir Tam would be challenged by more pro players on tape than what Kill Farley has challenged on a week, week by week basis. That kind of that ties into my point for sure. I mean, you know, if you watch enough Pats or Tan like he gets beat by guys.

Of course he does, but it's weird to me that we ding Patrick Certan for going against the Jamar Chases of the world, you know, whereas Yeah, i mean, you know Farley has an easier time. I think that's fair to say. Yeah, I mean, Clemson's put out a hell of a lot of good NFL receivers, but not very many other schools. Yeah, that conference for North Carolina is a guy. I mean, I'm just saying, there's not many guys in the conference. There's not many guys. Not many guys.

Wait for US Ancy State, there there's nothing Georgia Tech, Like, who are we really guarding? I'm conservatively, Brian, I think you can go out of there in the corner with the eight or nine yard cushion and you probably can hold it down to hold people to a fifth rate. It's not that hard in the acc Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like, hey, Bucky, I was cooking crawfish the other day to la about blew my background. Man, he's trying to set you up against some some Division

one receivers. Yeah, the A SEC. It's not. It's not Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Irvin and uh Calvin Johnson out there anymore. It's not. It's it's it's not that kind of competition. Respect for that at no respect at all that at well kid from Louisville that can run, I mean, and so I have respect. I have respect for him and Patrick. But yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, there you go. I didn't know. I thought you learned better about the

you and the little guy fascination. No no, no, no, don't little little dude, little dude run around the little guy the little guy thing. I'm coming around, because what's happening is every time I killed the little guy, he ends up making the Pro Bowl or something like that. You know, it's just Fucky pro bowler, eyes Bucky, open your eyes. Man. This is a little game. This is a different game, and what we learned it is a different breed because what was the different in draft terms?

Yea and draft Watch that Watch that kid it Purdue. Watch that kid Purdue come in this league and blow everybody. If more, if run no more. Yeah, I'm just telling you, man, there's somebody about it. The way this game's going, there's something. Okay, so I know Kyle's probably dying to go to break, but like the conversation, does it I'll be quick. Does it remind you of twenties? Can you? Well, yeah, you keep cutting me off, jackass. Does this remind you of

Does this remind you of twenty seventeen at all? In the sense that you know the Cowboys had that strategy where you know, the first round was long on pass rushers. Obviously we know they got the pick wrong, but they let the cornerback position stretch into Day two and they got Jordan Lewis and Cheetoh. I mean, is that what you're trying to tell me that you know, you get the more talent rich guy in the top ten and

you can still find some cornerbacks later. Because I don't know what I mean, at the end of the day, you got to you gotta pick the right players now, I mean like yeah, I mean, I mean like that disparaged the people who picked Taco Chard, But I never felt like he was a guy like that, and I would be worried of Michigan guy in the room. They

felt the same way too, Bucky. Yeah, yeah, like I don't, I don't think like and I would be worried of the guy who's coming out now, Quitty Pey, Like I'm not I'm not supposed to scout the helmet, but let's let's be honest. The guys that have come out of there, Chase, Winnipitch, Rashid, Gary Um, Taco then we talked about pretty much bad Hutchinson might not be bad. Yeah, but they don't they don't get the quarterback down. Yeah, So yeah, I don't know.

They remind me of Penn State corners. So I'm just curious about how many cornerbacks you would feel good about drafting at say, let's say forty four, Like, you know, whether that's you know. I've brought up Tyson Campbell a lot. Maybe you'll take that's why we've taken off at you tackle it and I'm saying so, but you what I'm asking is like you feel good about that depth of position, because I don't know that I do, like I feel I feel much better about corners stad for everybody else.

I don't want to speak for everybody else. I feel. I'm i'm i'm I'm fine with that. I am fine with the corner. I'm parked out there because worst case, what you do is you park Anthony Brown out dud. You bring in a guy who can play nickel. I think you can. You can run it back. I think it's easier to find those guys that we can move inside and kind of play around and do all that

other stuff. I would prefer to have the Cowboys going thirty to thirty five points a game and the other team is forced to throw and we're playing soft zone and making them kick field goals like I want to dominate on offense. I also don't think if you took a corner early, he took them at ten. I don't think it's out of the question that you also take one in the second or the third round either because

of the depth of position. I think they double dip at corner any fact, And if you're gonna do that, then you might as well have a premium player at a different position that you've already invested in, like offensive tackle. Hey, Cal, I'm glad you did that, because if we were in the draft room and I saw Dave Hellman over there pouting, what I would do as I say, here's what we do.

We'll take corners in the second, third, and the seventh round to appease you, to make sure that we get the corner, to make sure that you feel good about that. But I'm going to take the offensive tackle. So I feel great, and I'm gonna let you have Christmas the rest of the draft you want. I'm not pouting. If they drafted a shots later. I think that's a perfectly good thing. I think that's a great I think y'all are just y'all are just drafting scared. Y'all are just

drafting scared, that's all I feel like. I feel like you're drafting scared. I feel like it's the first If you're gonna just take the kneel and take the player. Take take the better player, y'all. And also, I'm not scared watching Terrence Knight play tackle last year. Terry Terrence how many? How many guys? Yeah, that's good because they both played. Yeah, just the one missmash. So here's something to look at, Dave, Like, we have to build it to win a division. They're more pass rushers in this

division than wide receivers. That's so they're more pet We gotta deal with Chase Young and what the Washington football team has. You still got to deal with the Eagles and Brandon Graham and those guys. The Giants are good up front. None of those teams outside of Terry Lauren, who's the other scary receiver that's not on the Cowboys, there isn't one. Like if you're just saying, we have to win a division to get into the playoffs, the strategy makes gonna be a good player. He might, he

might be. Still what I'm saying right now, you're not You're not saying, oh my gosh, how are we going to and watch how are we going to defend Jalen Rayger, Like, it's not that the only guy in the division outside of who's on the Cowboys would be Terry mc lauren, Well, but what we gotta watch guys now is and Bucky that narrative works now, but watch what happens. I can go by now and watch the giants and watch them all start. Yeah, you're right right now. That's a great narrative.

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Kyle Yeomen's alongside Bucky Brooks. Brian brought us David Hellman Chris Beam in the back. Where it's time now for some Twitter on the twenty Twitter on the twenty. There it is as always Chris Beam doing work, and it is Twitter on the twenty even though it's ten forty. But we're still going to get these questions in regardless on this show because there's some really good ones and a lot of them that we need to get to. We need to just start answering a lot of these

on Twitter just to get these across. Okay, starting off with let's go with Ernie and he sounds, actually, no, this is exactly what we just talked about and talking about offensive tackle. Okay, let's go with Jeff. He says, now that Reggie Robinson has been moved back to corner which is what the report was last week out of the Star, Does that mean that cornerback is not as much of a need in the draft or do they not have to double down. We just talked about doubling

down at corner. I still think it's a huge possibility, but Brian, because of Reggie Robinson maybe being back at that spot, and you think it takes a little bit of the pressure off, well at least gives him another body, you know, and we all kind of we all evaluated Reggie Robinson as a long range corner out of Tulsa, and so, yeah, it's unfortunately he came into training camp last year. I remember watching practices and thinking, this poor

kid's lost. You know, he doesn't look like he really knows what he needs to do where he needs to be played. Some games at the end of the year on special teams actually showed up pretty well. So I think the move back to corner will be more natural for him, and Bucky will explain to you that, hey, these guys like those types of players long range Robinson will probably be a pretty good fit. As we talked about for forty minutes there, cornerback is still something you

have to address. Yeah, I don't think you know what a position because of Reggie Robinson. If he develops and becomes a guy that can become a contributor. Great, but I think you still have to draft with getting a starter in mind. And so I think he throws it, he gets into the mix, he competes, but I think you still have to put more ammunition into position. Yeah, I mean, I am, I AM excited at the thought

that there that they would move him back. I was kind of disappointed they tried to move him to safety in the first place, but he still played. He played one defensive snap last year, and I mean, if if he develops, that's awesome. It just makes you that much better. But you know, I say this all the time, like the top one hundred is where you're getting guys that are going to start and make plays for you. Every

everything else is just gravy. It's similar, very similar to Bradley, and I like, am I am I excited for what he might be able to do in year two. Absolutely do I feel like I'm set at defensive end because I found Bradley and I in the fifth round, no chance. So Reggie Robinson was at one twenty three year when he was taken out of Tulsa, So he's outside of

that top one hundred. But not by a lot, and I still think he has enough to come up and play significant snaps at the position, especially whenever you're as thin as they are there. But like you said, in terms of saying that we don't need to look at that position as much, I don't know if Freddie Robinson's

really kind of a swinging factor there. This is a good question from Patrick Drew and this is from all the way in Melbourne, Australia, across the world from where we are, so I love that international listeners shout out to you, but Twitter on the twenty question. Assuming the Cowboys go corner at ten and David Hellman gets his way, realistic options for tackle and linebacker at forty four, who are some of the names that we would potentially be

talking about there, mister Hellman? Oh well, I I think I brought him up in the first segment. I'm like, I'm I love the idea of finding Alex Leatherwood at forty four. Y'all tell me if you think that's realistic. Brian also was talking about Notre Dame guy Leah. Yeah, those are a couple names, and then there was one more. Oh um, actually a guy that I feel like we haven't really said his name a lot. But what about Sam Cosmi out of Texas as well? Which is why?

So I mean there are guys and again it's important to note you're picking in the top ten of every round. So is it a guarantee that that those guys will fall to you know? But I feel good that there would be a talented option there, particularly at pick forty four. I don't know about letting it stretch all the way to the third round, but maybe pick forty four. But yeah, talk about linebacker m A. Chasti Rot from North Carolina

would be in the mix. I think Jabiro Cox from LSU would be in the mix because I think they need one of those kind of linebackers. I think speed is at a premium. I think the linebacker composition will look a little bit different than it had been in recent years. I think you will see guys that are a little smaller but a lot faster, because that's a big part of how this defense gets down. Yeah, and I think I hope I don't butcher this kid's name.

Another kid the Cameron mcgroan from Michigan. The linebacker. I don't know if you guys have looked at him at all. But that's a six one, two hundred thirty five pound guy played with a busted hand part of the season. But if you watch his tape Minnesota, Indiana, this is an active guy that can really really run. Not a lot went well for Michigan last year, but he was one of the I thought one of their better defensive players. Number forty four for the Wolverines, but downhill player can

really run, kind of work his way through trash. There's some linebackers that, like I say that the guys were saying smaller guys that can run. I think that's what the pre wreck was going to be for this defense. Well I got real quick, Kyle. Sorry. But another guy that I always forget about. What do y'all think about Tevin Jenkins out of Oklahoma State? Oh? Yeah, see, I've seen people I know, Yeah, I've known some people have

seen him. I didn't want to mention it because I've got him personally in the second round myself, but I know people have talked about him potentially as a first round guy, and so I don't know if he gets to you at forty four, but I kind of had I kind of had him and the notre Dame Kid in that mix right there together. Leatherwood was in that mix two of my second round offensive tackles. Those are the guys I hope that could stretch to you at forty four if you're going that route. I like Baron

Browning too. If we're gonna talk linebacker, I say I like him a lot. And he's a Texas born player played down the street and at Kennadale High School here in Fort Worth. I've seen him the last couple of years, and I mean, you talk about a player that plays hetty, that's that's smart. He's in the right spot and then

he finishes through tackles. That's a guy that I really liked on film ultimately of being able to show out and really kind of ended up being really the captain of that Ohio State defense last year that made a run to the National Championship Game and had U some even though it was a short season. He had highlights into to impress me there. Uh, next question from John Nelson out of he's also across the pond, he's in the United Kingdom. No, Yeah, that's our guy. Yeah. Nello's fantastic.

I love love him. On Twitter, he says is there any position outside of corner that you would double dip

in in this draft ran quarterback. No, I'm just no, you know, it's a it's an interesting I wonder if you would double dip at safety, you know, I wonder if you would find a way to say, okay, go grab you a free and then go grab you somebody that could be as strong, and then use those two guys maybe if you because on a rotation of four, you think it like you know, Donovan Wilson, Okay, do they go sign a veteran guy, Get a veteran I mean a legitimate veteran guy, not a guy that's just

you know, we get into camp and then they cut him after the third practice, like a legitimate player, And then would you maybe look at because to me, I think there's some really fascinating players at that safety spot, especially at the strong and the free, where you could kind of interchange or use both of them to be part of the four. So I keep an eye on

the on the safety spot for sure. You know, Brian, I think that's interesting because you would like to have flexibility in the back end where you could sometimes player a traditional nickel or what they call a big nickel where you have three safeties on the field, and that third nickel is almost kind of like that quasi linebacker the Florida State kid hams A Nasa Radee. He would be interesting me, Naza Redeine. He would be interesting as the Canoe Neil type player to drop down in the

box too, like you can drive Downovan Wilson. Maybe he has enough pop and thump to be able to be that, but maybe you want another bigger guy that can come down and be the low guy here with this stuff. A guy you're talking about there too is Sherwood from from Auburn is another one of those guys, big guy, physical player. You see him you watch the Georgia game and stuff. He's playing down they got him playing in coverage,

they got him doing some of that stuff. Another kid I liked a lot too is and I don't know if you guys do Gillespie from from Missouri is a guy. I mean, he's a guy could kind of see as you watch that Alabama game and he is flying downhill and are hurry hitting people, knock at people playing in coverage and stuff like that. If you're gonna double at a spot though, man, maybe there's maybe you could kind of fix this thing with a couple of the picks

at the right at the right spot the interest. Another guy we never talked about it would be the Cisco kid from Syracuse. You just never talked about him. His name should be in the conversation because he's another safety and that day two rains that could come in and help immediately. He's he's got a lot of the tools that you would want in a starting safety, but he gives up so many big plays on film and he gets beat a lot, and I think he'll fall because

of that. So if you wanted to take a flyer on a guy in the third round, then he's there. If he makes it to the third round, that might be still too low for him. But if he makes it to the third and he's there at seventy five, I don't think I'm out of the I don't think he would be out of the running as my favorite bit in the third round if he's there because of

the physical tools that he has. Now, speaking of physical tools, I've got a question specifically for our guy, Brian brot Us And this comes from NICKI the Twitch on Twitter, and he says, for my guy, Brian. Yeah, the official inductee to the Kiris Tonga Fan Club. I want his scouting report on the BYU interior defensive lineman. He called him a SpongeBob loving giant. But I don't know enough about this guy yet to really get into him. But what do you think about Tonga? Have you guys? Have

you guys seen Tonga at all? I have? Have you seen Tonga? I have not. I saw you talking about him this morning. That was the first time. Yeah, he's he I'll tell you what, this is a fun draft for these centers, these guys that play right over the center's nose. And you know this guy, I mean he is a three hundred and twenty six pound guy and you watch him play. He's got some really good speed. He's got excellent quickness. And I'll tell you what, he is super active when it comes to chasing the ball

and working to the outside. I mean he's a difficult player to deal with one on one. And I was watching the Coastal Carolina game and I mean they've got him like playing twist game stuff. They've got him jumping around and gaps and then getting back inside. And you know, when you're three hundred and twenty six pounds and you're bouncing around the line like that and people aren't moving you, but you're getting in the backfield. He's a finisher when

he gets around the quarterback. He's one of those guys that were a big, heavy guy. He wasn't coming off the field. I mean he was playing snap after snap after snap. You watch Shelvin and guys like that, they suck. But you know, LSU's got a lot of players. I get it by you, they've got talented players. But Tonga keep an eye on him? Is that one technique guy. I really do like this one technique class. Of what we've seen so far in this draft, there's a couple

of guys that stand out. I mean, along with Tonga, you gotta Lee McNeil that we've talked about out of n Z State previously. I mean, there are some one guy that are gonna find their way into the early parts of this draft and maybe I mean, if the Cowboys wanted to talk about it, how about the mc neil kid. I got a chance to see him. Now, how about the McNeil kid. I got a chance to see him work out last week because he worked out out here how about he started a left field in

high school and on the baseball team. I'm like, how crazy? How crazy is that to think about your one technique. Oh, by the way, let's go out and played outfield. But that's what he did. Yeah, it played outfield. How about that. Let's go I like that first base. We can zone dog, we can zone dog a little bit. Yeah, that's that's not data Ortiz over there, that's that's left field. You're running after baseball's there, You're you're getting into the gap,

playing down the line. What was that, Brian, No, I'd tell you what though, I think Bucky and you guys are right about the kid. I mean, I talked about him last week as a pet cat guy. You see athletic ability. You see athletic ability the day and age of just the big sloppy guy playing this at one technique or undertackle. Yeah, there's some big sloppy guys, but they're better athletes than than what we've kind of seen in the past. I'm I'm encouraged if the Cowboys have

to go get one of these guys. I think there's three or four of those choices that you can make. Though again, it's got to be a change in philosophy. The previous regime was all about, oh no, we like orphans and we don't want to draft guys, and dada, da dada and all that stuff. I hope this regime says, no, let's use a draft pick on a good player, and there's some in this draft that you can go get. I like it. I like the potential that it ends

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Brian brought us David Hellman. I'mkyle Yeoman's final question here to round things out on what has been really a really fun show, a gentleman well done from every one of you guys and all of those listening as well. But coach K on Twitter asked, can I get Michael Gallup traded to the Patriots because they can extend him for Stefan Gilmore in a late pick, so that way you could potentially grab one of these top three wide

receivers pick number ten. Are you interested in doing such a thing, David Hellman, You know, okay, is it possible? That's another question I'm gonna is it? Well, is it possible? Yeah, I suppose it's possible. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know the details of Gilmour's deal off the top of my head, but I know he's one of the better paid cornerbacks in the league, so I mean, I assume that would be difficult to fit in under the cap.

I think the Gallup thing is really interesting because, yeah, it's it's fun to talk about ways you could maximize that, you know, trade him for something while he's still worth it before he goes into this contract year. But I also kind of feel like, you know, in this day and age, people are trying to solve problems before they exist. And what I mean by that is, you know, everybody's like, well, Gallop's gonna leave next year, so we gotta do something. It's like you can tap the brakes, like a lot

of things can happen. The Cowboys frontloaded a Marii Cooper's deal they're done. They're done with guarantees for a Mari next office. So they could conceivably get rid of a Maori and keep Michael Gallup if they wanted to. They could extend him, they could franchise him. Or it's not the end of the world. If Michael Gallup walks in free agency and you get a nice cop pick out of it, like that is not the worst outcome in

the world. So I kind of feel like people overreact to the fact that they're probably gonna lose Gallop, like and I get it. It's fun to be proactive and try to think ahead of time. There's nothing wrong with that, But I also don't think that's like this terrible problem

that you have to solve right now. To answer the question a little bit more directly, if the Patriots were willing to do that, and I could fit Gilmour in under the cap he's only seven he's only seven million dollars, you just have to do an extension because he's gonna want more money. He only million. It says his cabinet is fifteen. On what I'm looking at, it says the cabinet is fifteen. Because it was a backloaded deal and

he's in the final year of his five year contract. Yeah, looking looking at sports X so they did a deal with a put some money up to pay him last year to get him to thirteen million. But on the books, his base salary is that the cap hit for the Patriots is fifteen but in terms of salary to spend out it's only seven million. But when you take him in, he's not going to show up unless you redo to do. Yeah, and so you also have to wander thirty one years old for someone who wasn't he was never an a

level athlete. How much does he have left? Are you going to get the back end of the performers from Gilmore if you take that on. Yeah, and yeah, the cap hit makes me leary. I'm still probably leaned toward I at least I don't hate the idea. Yeah, I think you'd rather have a younger player at that position, but you've also kind of wanted a veteran at that position as well, and buy a veteran somebody who can

actually play well and still be a veteran at that spot. Yeah, but it kind of it goes back, you know, to the whole thing about you know, quarterback, Like what makes what makes a quarterback valuable as a draft pick is like the contract, Like you have cost control, so it makes you know, would you rather have a twenty two year old that you have cost control over for five years or a thirty one year old who you have to pay just to get him to show up in

training camp? Yeah. The more I think about this, I think I'd rather just hold on to Michael Gallop. And like I said, I mean, there are worse things that can happen than getting a comp pick for Michael Gallop. Like, if that's what happens, that's fine with me. I don't know. I feel like the more you talked about it, the more you talked me into it, Brian really quickly before we end out you would you do that deal or would you kind of reconsider and keep Michael Gallop around? Yeah?

I think I would probably keep Michael Gallop around. This is what I do. I would look for other opportunities, you know, maybe you could maybe you could take him and when your draft picks and then move up in the draft, maybe you could go a little bit further. I would use him as a bargaining chip instead of getting a thirty one year old corner. Maybe you want

to go up higher in the draft. Maybe you want to try and get back into the second round, back in the bottom of the first round, and you can convince somebody to take your forty four and Michael Gallop and then let you get back into the bottom of the first round if you find a player to your liking there. So I would kind of keep that option open.

I think I would too. I would lean toward keeping Michael Gallop, even though, like Dave said, kind of to start off the conversation, I'm not against talking about it. I don't think it's a bad idea to keep your options open. But if you and this is an intriguing option, to say the least. Now, if they threw in maybe a second round picked or something, maybe I would do it. But I don't know. That might be a little bit too high and too constantly from the Patriots perspective to

get that deal done. But that's gonna do it for us. I go for it, Dave, Sorry, Kyle, No, I mean, I think it's a conversation worth having. I'm not opposed to the idea, but you don't have to look for an excuse just to get rid of Michael Gallop just because you think you can't afford him next year. Like, let those problems play out. That's a good problem to have.

So if somebody wants to come get him, that's great, but make it worth my while, Like, don't just deal him because you're afraid of having to pay him next year. That's dumb. It's a good point. It's a good point. That's it for us here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show for everyone listening at home. For Chris Beam, for Bucky Brooks, Brian brought us and David Hellman. I'm Kyle Yelmans. We'll see you next week on the Draft Show.

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