Draft Show: Full Mock Draft & Final Thoughts

Draft Eve than I am on Christmas Eve? Are you really nothing to happen yet? Good for you. That's David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys Patient you know, yeah, I am up about the open presence about to open some presence, A lot of work here and maybe socks or something more fun than socks. We have we have more fundan socks anything seasons ahead. Yeah, and the president of the Zeke Elliott Fan Club, Taylor starn Well, now join us as well. Thanks for being here, guys. Give my last

I didn't know Jalen Ramsey played running back. I mean he probably could if he wanted to, probably could kick Garrison Executive producer today and again welcome everybody to the STBBC Mortgage Studios for the Draft Show today. We're gonna start a little journey. We're gonna do a seven round mock draft. We're ending, We're ending the journey. We're gonna do a little We're gonna start started the journey in January. I'm the commission. Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna have a

little fun with a mock draft today. And as much as I don't like mock drafts, this is what I do like because we seem to have all the information ahead of us and we can kind of work off that. We've got an idea about our boards, we got an idea of potentially who could be picked in front or

behind whatever way we want to go. So we're gonna do a seven round mock draft for you, and I'm gonna let my trusted scouting buddy here, Dame Brugler, run the draft, and then we're going to talk about the different types of the picks that can be made, maybe some scenarios of going up, going back, staying where we're at. You never know, we might make a call and get denied. We just worked through all these situations and see what

we can do for our seven round mocks. And then when we finished that, we're gonna take some calls at eight eight eight, eight, five, five, two two nine seven, kind of want to know what you guys think out there, how we did, and then give you an opportunity to talk about this about this draft as we get ready for tomorrow. Some programming notes. We will start the draft on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

app at six forty five pm Central time. Before that, though, tomorrow morning the Cowboys Cowboy Break, Cowboys Break, We'll go at eleven PM to get you going for the day. So with all that being said, to be NonStop from yeah, eleven am tomorrow leven an till sometime Sunday eleven am Cowboys Break, and then it's six forty five pm Central, we will start on this NFL Draft. So Dane, I'm gonna turn this over to you, okay, and we're gonna start this draft and we're gonna pick this thing to

the best of our ability. And we're doing this scenario as if we are this team, Dallas Cowboys. You know, our opinions of certain players necessarily aren't relevant this point. We're doing this how we think this team might pick over the next three days. So starting off, we know we had the fourth pick. We do, and we have

a pretty good feeling about who's going one too. We think quarterbacks were one two, so we need two players on our board for if we're gonna stay at four, and we feel good about Jalen Ramsey, the defensive back from Florida State, we do, and running back Ohio States Ezekiel Elliott. So first quarterbacks come off the board one too. We know that right third pick is the Forrest Buckner, so both of our guys are on the board of four. Is there a discussion here? Are we sticking with Ramsey

at the top of our board? Any lay voices speaking up for Ramsey or excuse me for Elliott? Jerry Jones might be that late voice. Honestly, I think that is a fantastic point. Yeah, maybe the most interesting thing about this whole thing is, Honestly, I think at the end of the day, I think Ramsey would get the nod in that room, or will get the nod in that room.

Except the guy who owns all of this is a pretty powerful voice and has said before that he he's the tiebreaker, and I think that he might want Ezekiel Elliott, I've got a little reputation as willing to take a risk. Yeah, bo bingo. I think the fact that's the X factor there. Honestly, what we've talked about on our board though, as we built this board, we've talked about the situation. You've brought it up a bunch about this, what's going on with

this secondary with one year deals? What? What? What? What's what's our secondary gonna look like? Secretary will look nothing like this? Yeah, a year from now, do you have to go ahead and do this right now? I think it makes more sense in the five year I was

saying this last night on Twitter. Zeki Lelli makes a ton of sense for this two year window maybe three, where Romo's still Romo and you got a chance to compete Ramsey makes sense because for at least five years, if not ten, he's going to be a big part of your secondary. He gives you three quality players that have long term futures here along with Scandrick and Byron Jones, and you don't have to worry so much about the fact that car Mo, Church Wilcox all do not currently

have a future with this team. I mean, I think Ramsey is the better long term play. If you're talking you're a big fantasy. Can I just feel like Zeke is your guy if you want, you know, that instant impact, which I think we do. Yeah, we don't want another four twelve season, and we do have an older quarterback that needs to hand the ball off a little more than he does. And you know, I don't know. I don't know if you heard Michael Irvin the other day, Dave,

but he was given all the points for Zeke. I don't have a problem with anything that she just said. And I think I've made that clearer in the time that we've been on the show, right, But I mean, and I mean I laid it out for you. I mean, yeah, you're absolutely right. I think Zeke makes a big difference in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. I think Ramsey's probably a better play when you're talking about twenty twenty, which I mean when you get down to the end of

the day, that's what the draft is about. Let me let me ask Dane this question though, if we end up playing him, if we start him at corner and we end up playing him at safety, though, if that's the case, harder to find safeties or find corners in this draft. I'm not just talking about this draft, but what we're talking about going forward, though, I think you make a case for both. I think it's probably easier to find corners, but safeties that can cover, that can hit,

that can do everything. This is where I think we need to we need to think about that. I mean, if we if we're a team that's well, okay, I mean they've had trouble finding corners, right, We've seen they've spent a lot of resources, a lot of money. But if you could playhim at corner and it works out great to you. But maybe maybe we think it's his best position in safety, you're still gaining something that maybe you're gonna have one of the best safeties in the

in the in the NFL. This is a situation where we have to trust the coaches that they're going to use him the right way and it's not going to be Ah. You know, they have a plan for him, and you know, I think training Campbell helped, you know how that how that plan works out. But I think with the trust of coaches with a player like Jalen Ramsey. We did a poll yesterday on Dallas Cowboys Twitter, and I asked which side of the ball should the Cowboys

address in the first round, offense or defense. Forty two percent said offense, fifty eight percent said defense. Sixteen thousand votes, so more love for Ramsey than than people want to get. They're talking on the Zeke train. I think we should hand in this card times winding down. We just got a trade offer for this pick. Okay, uh fun Tampa Bay at pick number nine, All right, Okay, they're at

pick number nine. They're offering first and a second, so they're offering pick number nine and pick number thirty nine to move up to four. Okay, that's yeah, that's a point differential in that Dallas at eighteen hundred, Tampa Bay at thirteen fifty. Their second round pick is at five ten, So a little bit of an overpen Yeah, it's a little bit overpaid there. You're picking three times in the top forty. You're looking at Tampa Bay. You're only moving

back to nine. They need tackle help, they need defensive back help. They need running I mean they're or they're not gonna think are running back, but they can go into a couple different areas here. They could go with Jalen Ramsey, they could go with Laramy Tunsel, so they could go Joey Bosa. And they need a pass rusher as well, So a lot of different areas they could go here. We don't know, But are we comfortable going

out of the top eight. That's kind of my hang up here, Yeah, because if we go out of the top weight, we lose Ramsey, we lose Zeke, we likely lose Bosa. Yeah, you know, and if we go out of the top eight at number nine, we got to determine is pick thirty nine in the second round good enough to make that jump? Who are who are you probably getting at nine? Like, I mean, yeah, I think

he's nine. It's probably either Hardgraves Lawson. Yeah, I think Shack Lawson is probably your best case scenario if that trade right, which I like Shack Lawson. I don't like that he's got to have surgery. That's do you think they like Shack Lawson brought him in as one of the thirty. I think that he's a guy that's definitely they I don't know if they like him enough to pass up on one of these two guys, would let me ask you this, would you take the would you

take rankings there? Would you consider taking with I mean, you've Fay Fay. You've paid a lot, a lot to a three technique. We think he's the best three technique in this draft. So you're drafting well technically, I mean you're drafting a guy who's probably not on the field for the first play of the season. I mean, you're you got a three technique that you're paying a fifty mill Maybe you have to just signed a one time.

I'm just throwing it out there. I mean, I'm trying to make you think what's there, which I mean Rod Marinelli loves them. I mean the rotation, there's nothing wrong with that. I think we're standing there and then I don't want to do that. But that's a samples say no deal. Yeah, it's just like do it and don't remind me that Jalen Ramsey, all right, trying to get through. It's not a corner's not a safety's a defensive back. But we did that in thinking that we don't like

what's there at nine. Potentially that's the problem. Right. It's so funny because a month or two ago, that's all we were saying is get back and get the guy you want later and add some picks. But I mean, you've I think you stand to lose a significant amount of quality on the player. If you want to talk to your player in this draft. You're not expecting the pick in the top seven or eight anytime soon, So you stay there, take the impact player. Okay, So Jalen

Ramsey's pick there for twenty three, that's what he wants. Okay, we were Robert Turbin. Okay, all right, running through the first round here with your woes. Sorry, don't listen to me. Yep, Zeke can boast off the board quickly. All these guys will go. Zeke though, just out of curiosity. We got trade up at eight. Looks like the Dolphins are going up to date to get them talking about going to three. So going to eight, I'm sure would be something they'd

be interested in. Yeah. Hey, I mean, Zeke's if he's not a cowboy, he's got to go somewhere. He might as well go to a team that you only play every four years. That would be that. On the other side, that would be nice in my book. There, Okay, we're creeping towards the end of the first round, any discussions about trading back in for a quarterback, any of these quarterbacks we like enough to use that thirty four overall pick.

Have we lost all? But have we lost all three of the quarterbacks we think are potential first round players? Of course we lost the first two Packson Paxson. Jackson just went nineteen to Buffalo. Okay, So the discussion is Connor cook yam Tyrod Taylor? Maybe Connor cook in there? Hackenburgh's a consideration. Do we want to get back in there? Do we need to if we can get back in there. We were talking about yesterday. Kansas City, Green Bay's a team.

Teddy Thompson back out of there at twenty seven, he's he's got that pick. That's where six eighty four him. Kansas City's at six sixty, that's another team. Arizona is another team at six forty. I just gave you pick twenty seven, twenty eight and number three. And the thing is with this pick, we probably have to overpay a little because the team knows that we want a quarterback and we want that fiftyeer option. Okay, I can I

can make that the differential. Then quick math on that right there, we're at five sixty, and it'd say, we want to trade to you want to go to Kansas City City twenty eight, Let's go to KANCA at twenty eight six sixty on their picks. So quick math right there? For is that one hundred points? You'd say five sixty and I gave you five sixty and six sixty sixty seven worth well, sixty seven's worth two hundred and fifty

five points. That's a way overpay. Now we've got a very valuable chip there at ninety at one O one. That's ninety six points. That makes it close, but they're probably gonna want you to overpay. Well, but think about this, though we talk about this a lot. Kansas City could get that pick they pick at the end of that draft at that spot there ad pick one twenty six. Would it be worth it for them to have that early one to start the third day? We kind of

floated that idea that might be valuable for somebody. Absolutely, somebody might say, hey, you know what, and think about this. Kansas City's picking again in the third round. Well, excuse me, they lost their third round pick Kansas City. If I look at the way it is at a forfeit. Yeah, they had to forfeit, so maybe you can entice them to take that early pick on the one that they missed out. Yeah. I think the bigger question here is Connor Connor Cook. Yeah, it's song about the player for

a second here. I mean, obviously we think there's a good chance, you know, we're gonna drop the quarterback at some point. Yeah. Is it worth moving up into that late first to get a player like Connor Cook? Or do we feel better about the player that could be there for us at thirty four in getting a quarterback third or fourth round. I like what you just said, and I hate the idea, and we talked about that yesterday. I hate that idea a lot, But you think about

what just happened to Denver. I think the thought of having a fifth year option on one of these guys could be very appealing to them, right, and we know that they're not afraid to do these types of things. They gave up a third round pick for DeMarcus Lawrence time years ago. It wouldn't surprise me that pick one oh four, though, Boys and girl, that is that is that's good stuff. Yeah, one oh one, And so I think I think We've done enough work on these quarterbacks.

I'm not willing to do the Connor Cook one. I'm I'm I'm gonna go. I hope that they just let let it fall to you. You've got to get thirty four. I think that's the best way to go. I think you would be there at thirty four. Well, we're gonna we're about to find out. All right, we're going through the twenties right now, Casey's about to come up. We're not gonna make a call, right, We're out. We're around on that. Yeah, I think we all agree. Okay, all right,

we're going into the second round. Now, Connor Cook goes thirty two to Cleveland. So there's there's our quarterback. He's not he's not on the board. So Denverse right there obvious with this need. Now are we heartbroke there? No, I'm not. We're that's the Brian broad est like, oh no, any any remorse about not trading up in the league. Well, but see again, we're we have no remorse. They might have remorse, Yeah, they might have more remorse than us.

But I think we did the right thing sweating it. I think we did. This is why you do homework. On a quarterback. I mean they did a homework on a guy in every stage of the draft. They set a coach out to work a guy out yesterday. So they're still working on these done homework on guys at every level. There's no need to Okay, we lost our guy three two, all right, so we're good to go. Okay, Well, then we're up at thirty four and okay, we have

one player draft at Jalen Ramsey. Yep. Now this is interesting scenario because a few players available here for us, Karl Joseph. But we just took a secondary. Yeah, we took layer in the first right. I don't know if we can double up there, especially right we see Ramsey as a potential safety, right, Uh makes sense. Derrick Henry's available the running back, I don't. I don't think they like him in that room. No, I would say that they're probably saying we could go running back, or we

could wait till third to get a running back. I'm still filling quarterback. Hackenburg is still available. Hackenburg is still on the board. I'll tell you what that. We gotta think about a defensive We gotta think about a defensive lineman again, though, is there in and we get we're looking at Kevin Dodds. Kevin Dodds, Kevin Dodd's still there. Yeah, I'm interested in him. He's a top one available Korea, Ronald Blair Ogba in terms of the defensive ends. Let's

put the defensive end here. There's three names of what we've said that really stand out to me, and it's Dodd, Hackenburg and Henry. Those are the three that stand out. And let me finish, because I know on the face, no, I'm okay, I'm about to tend in this card though. I mean, I just we've I haven't changed my opinion along. I think thirty four is too rich for both of those two other guys. I like Derrick Henry a lot.

If I was picking at fifty or sixty seven, if you held that, I would pick Hackenburg at sixty seven. I told Dan that yesterday. I don't like him at thirty four. Okay, I would go with Dodd. I mean that is a god. I think at this point he's he's the best player available. He helps the pass rush. You watch that, I don't see a pro bowler. I don't see a future pro bowler, but I think he'd be a solid player for us. I'll see a guy who could rotate at left end right away and moved

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If you're just tuning in, shame on, you should have been here from the opening bell. Jalen Ramsey went at pick four for the Cowboys, and then we have just selected Dodd the defensive end from Clemson at thirty four. So now we're on the clock at sixty seven, right, Dame Burglar and An Okay, I'm good defense. First two rounds, I think done a lot for your defense. Yeah, I think Rod Marinillium have to be very happy, and so now I think we're a lot more open to offense.

Still have some needs on defense. We can go in that direction as well. You know, looking at the third round some quarterbacks. Hackenberg went off the board late seconds, so he is not an option. Okay to Arizona. Arizona makes sense. Arizona traded back into the late second to get him, so here in the early third quarterback available Dak Prescott, done a lot of work on him. In terms of defensive line, we could double dip go back for Ronald Blair, San Ridgeway. You want to beef up

that defensive line. The one name that sticks out for me a runner CJ. Pro Sye. Yeah, I was starting to look through the names as you were going through all those defensive players, I was saying, and I was looking at some of those receivers as well, potentially, But anyway, you like receiver, No, I tell you what though, you know I on my board personally. You know Higgins, Lawlor, Cooper. I know you like Cooper a lot. I think that. I think what we have to think about is I

like what you're saying about pro Sie. I know Taylor wanted to you know, she was thinking about Zeke. Made some good arguments about Zeke. Here's a guy though that that has that ability the runner, the catcher need to develop a little bit more as a blocker, but he's a guy that's got that kind of that big playability. I think it's sixty seven. We have to think about TJ. Pros. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just doing this from memory. I mean, Zeke wasn't the only running back that they

brought in. They brought Henry, they brought pro Sie Man, Yeah, yeah, they brought pro Sie. They brought Perkins, Yes, they brought Drake. They brought Drake in as well. What all the guys they brought in? They're not considering running backs really after Like maybe one oh one. Maybe, I mean all those guys were in that we have Drake, Yeah, Drake. I mean I'm assuming Drake is gone by the end of the fourth round. Yeah, I mean I agree, Yeah yeah. So,

I mean you're taught. They didn't bring in any like fringe guys, is what I'm trying to say. They brought in like true you gotta if they want, they're gonna spend one of these first three picks on a running back is basically what I'm trying to say. I'm gonna give pro Sise a little scouting report. He's got the speed that they want. They he can catch out of the back rold. He was a receiver prior to being

a running back. Right, He's got the relationship with some of the Notre Dame guys on here already as well as he as well as he did. It was his first year playing running back and pretty natural doing it, That's what I'm saying, all right, And the more he goes, the more the instincts will kick in and so and he won't be asked to be the bell cow here. Yeah, he's gonna share that back feeling then, who knows, Maybe that's a year from right, now he'll be ready to

be that. Though. If they were to draft this guy, I see him having the least amount of carries of the three. He'd have more than Dunbar. He would have the least amount of carriages of the three, but he would have three or four plays that would those wild plays, kind of like Randall in twenty fourteen, where it seemed like Randall had at This guy was tough too. There's some goal line stuff in the USC game where he

slams it in there and finishes run. Randall only had like fifty carries in twenty fourteen, but like probably six of them were big time game breaking type plays. And when it shocked me. If pro Sis leads leads them all and catches, yeah, that's possible. Especially I think we're stealing a guy here at three sixty seven. He's not going to be there at one on one four. Yeah, I don't think. I think we need to hit this one.

Let's get the runner, Okay, I've got that right there. Okay, then Garry Brown all right, And honestly, and I love Zeke. I always feel like I need to qualify that. But I mean, if you're drafting this guy like me, loving Bosa. Yeah, you don't love Bosa though. That's a lie. It's that's a lie. All right, we couldn't Bosa go to Just don't worry about it. That's good. We'll move on. You're getting this guy for pennies on the dollar. I mean, he's gonna be playing for you for six figures instead

of four point five five point five million dollars a year. Okay, and you got him, you know, so you've got him for two years after McFadden and Morris are conceivably off the team. Ye. Okay, so we're looking at it. We're now at pick one on one. Yes, we are at one on one early day. Now, we've made this pick with pro sites. We've sat there the whole third round. We've kind of looked at our board. Yeah, that's what

you do when when the drafts over. Do we have anybody on that board that we like that has still as a third round Gray? This is so Friday's over. Yeah, Friday's over. Saturday morning, Shadow, They're like, holy crap, that guy's still there. Yeah. Cleveland, Cleveland's gonna lead this fourth round off and they're gonna go back to back ninety nine and one hundred Cleveland can move one of those picks, I think, but we're up in there, we're looking at I tried to use it as a trading chip earlier

on that. You know, we tried to use that. Do we want to maybe move out of here again? Do we want to maybe try and recoup our fifth Let's you know, let's let's look at it. We do have a trade offer. Okay. Uh, it looks like Oakland's trying to get back, trying to get up there. I think they want a running back. I think they want like an Alex Collins maybe. See I was looking at my board. We talked about that, like who could be on that

third round we've right there at the top of the fourth. Yeah, so you know this did that we you know, maybe maybe we've we've since we've already just maybe a guy like Blair was available, Maybe somebody, maybe one of those the cornerbacks was about. Maybe I'm gonna say Ryan Smith, but he's probably gonna go in the third. Uh, I say, maybe one of those defensive tackles. Maybe one of those

guys was available. But you know we're sitting there right now thinking, yeah, you know, we've already got that guy. We've already got a defensive end. So honestly, in this scenario, the only thing left to address this quarterback. I mean, and you got that big you got that big playmaker at end, you address the future, your secondary, got your runner. Yeah, and I don't think we're just head over heels with anyone here at this pick that is going to preclude

us from moving back. Dak Prescott is still available or here he's gone. He went in the third round shortly after our sixty seven. So the thing about we need to think about here is do we want to move Do we want to get our fifth round pickback? That's what I'm trying to add. They're offering that fifth round pickback one forty three, so we get our pickback. The trade we made with Oakland to get By Butler, get Bryce Butler? Do we want to move back to their spot?

What spot are they added? Fourteen? So back fourteen spots? Okay, here we go. Here's the trade. Okay, So our pick is worth ninety six at one oh one, and we need and we're gonna try and make up a difference here there pick is worth sixty six. So do you want to do you want to go back and see and then you know that their fifth round. Yeah, their fifth round and there one forty three is worth thirty five points. That works. Didn't that work for us? The

numbers work. Yeah, I'm happy with that. I just everyone uncomfortable with moving back fourteen spots on the fourth. Who's who's there that you're really like? Gung hold? I know, we were just talking about Brandon Allen. Right, Well, there's a couple there's I don't there's a couple quarterbacks, but I don't think any of them are We're we're absolutely in love with that would stop us from moving back fourteen spots to get get our fifth back with early five. Yeah,

think about it. Setting it up that that'd be two fours, we get our five back, and then you got the four sixes. We might be sitting pretty good here. You're picking all day, yeah, Saturday. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you have a chance to pick up a top one hundred and fifty pick, I don't have a problem with it. Let's go. Yeah, let's do it. Let's get

our fifth back. All right, So we're going to Oakland. Now, we moved back fourteen spots on one fourteen, Okay, just to recap the trade for folks listening, our pick at four at at at at four one on one, it was worth ninety six. The Raiders pick is now at that one thirteen, right, one fourteen. Uh, that's a that's we're sixty six. So port differential makes up that gets us back our fifth round pick which we initially gave to them, which is at one forty three, is worth

thirty five points. So that's how that trade worked out for you right there. So are we talking about our teen, Yeah, we're coming up here to be on a clock here soon at one fourteen. You know, let's talk about these quarterbacks. Let's talk about you know, Brandon Allen, he's still on the board. Jacoby Bursett is a guy that this team has shown some interest in. Sure had brought him in one of the thirty visit guys. He's available. So it's Jeff driscoll at any one of the Kevin Hogan is

off the board. He went to Cleveland with one of those early picks, so he wasn't even available at one on one, but we had to have these people only got two qbs. No um Connor Cook went too. Yeah, there's a trade up there one of those picks, then, uh, so we have we had those three quarterbacks, then, uh, any one of those three stand out for this pick at one fourteen, we sent a coach to go work out. I'm good with Brandon Allen here. We snuck a coach

to Fadeville. I mean, but we also brought in Brissette. I like Jacoby Brissette. I don't. And I mean that's you can tell they're doing their due diligence on these guys, because there's no one of these quarterbacks that I feel that they're completely feel like we have to get the quarterback. Now we kind of find on that right now, are we? Yes? This is we don't we don't look again until one

thirty five twenty picks. Yeah, we're already. We're well beyond the threshold of where quarterbacks stop really being a chance to make a difference, is what I mean. Yeah, I mean Russell Wilson was seventy six. I mean that's generally the cutoff for where you're going to find that type of guy. So we got to figure out if his Brissette or Allan. Yeah, and I think should we probably lean towards We brought Like you say, we snuck a guy down there to work him out. I like Brandon Allen,

I do, But do you like him? You do like him more than Brissette at this spot, then I do like him more than Brissette. But with Brissette you have the physical traits which are far superior to Brandon Allen in terms of size, arm strength. You have a little more to develop there. Brandon all I think could be a solid backup in this league. Yeah, Brissette, you actually

have some upside there. You might you might have some starter potential there down the road, And so I think do we take a chance on that possibly maybe being a starter potential down the road, or take a guy we we know is just gonna be a backup in Brandon Allen. It's an interesting point. I mean, you're sitting here at one fourteen. The odds that this guy's gonna blossom into a superstar are not good traditionally. So do you just take the guy with the traits, take the

guy the steady wall. I'm take the guy that can sit there and be competent behind promo for a few years and worry about quarterback later. Or take the chance that this guy could turn into your next starter. I think we I think we look at the traits. Yeah, I think that those are appealing, you know, traits. I think let's go with the traits. Let's go with it. Even though I like Brandon Allen, I'm I do like Brissette, but I do like his point though, maybe get this

guy that I can maybe develop mid fourth round. You know, if he doesn't pan out, it's not a big deal, right, it's this is what's a big deal for quarterback? You don't want to give up a fourth round pick. I'm not saying this trash a pick, right, I'm just saying, though Dane always calls it a lottery ticket. You're spin it's not that exactly, not that expensive of a pick. You need the quarterback anyway, and there's a better chance he turns into something. Yea, your boy Cardel Jones is

still there, that's thinking about him. If I was running the room, he would have been the third round pick. But it's fine, let's hand in this car Let's go ahead. One fourteen, we go with Jacoby Brissette from North Carolina. Let Jacoby Brissette. Oh, I was hoping it was like, actually gonna say, I have just Ken's voice been kind of fun. I every single player beforehand. Yeah, okay, so now we we we work our way down the board.

We are at four one thirty five. This is this is a compensatory pick that cannot be traded, so we have to stand in there and make a pick. Okay, so we have addressed you just say whom your cap Okay, Ramsey Dodd, Procise Brissette. Are four picks? Pretty good. I feel like I will be stunned if the Cowboys actually address all of their big needs that obviously and that efficiently, I'll be I think we're in the range. The one that worries me is the Procise one. I don't I

worry about him at sixty seven. There's just always you never know, there's always a king. I mean, Gavin Escobar was kind of a head scratcher. Yeah, Anthony Hitchins was kind of a head scratcher at the time. He obviously played above what people expected of him, right um not drafting and running back last year Chaz Green was very puzzling. So if they actually hit all these spots in order like we just did, it will be impressive. All Right, We're in now at four one thirty five. Talk to me, Dane.

Look at some of these players available. Matt Ionitis, Uh, some offensive line in some corners that we kind of like, Um, maybody jumps out on our board to you. There one guy that I think, uh, we didn't think would be here. We thought could go top one hundred. But it's still available. Uh, Isaac sie Amalo. Here's a guy k center, guard combination guy. We we got a guy. You know, you brought in Looney to be that guy. But it's a two year deal. You just did pick. Well, there's rumors about picking up

the fifth year option for Frederick. I assume that will happen. That should happen in the next week. But here's the guys. But here's the guy though, that you really like. Maybe it's a future center. Yeah, you know, I think he can be a starter in this league. And at this point, I think he's an absolute steal at one thirty five.

I can't believe he's still on the board. As long as you know he had some injury stuff, missed all of two fourteen, and so as long as the medical staff gives us two thumbs up, I think that's a home run. Pick a guy that can play guard. He even played left tackle. Yeah, this past year for Oregon State wasn't the I saw. I was out there breeding your amazing draft guide and I was looking over his career at just everywhere that they've played this guy, it's

pretty amazing. His son of the defensive line coach. YA correct me if I'm wrong, But he hasn't really played much center in two years because they need him in other places. Yeah, he's versatile, which this team loves versatile beyond the leaf, and he hasn't been playing his best physician. Yeah, he started center as a freshman sophomore, and then he got hurt twousand and four. Two, he got hurt late two thirteen, missed all of teos and fourteen. Uh, here's

a right foot. But and then they brought in a new coaching staff two team, and so you know they kind of I think they misused him at Guarden left foot injury. You're absolutely right about that. He's played all the positions, as you said. I mean, I've seen him play the guy. I havent seen him play the tackle. They've seen him played, they played guard. I've seen him play and we center. We talked about this off the air. Yes, I mean It's easy to look at Joe Looney and said,

you know, well, they have the insurance for Frederick. Why would they do that? They signed cheer what was it two years ago? Guy never played a snap here. Right, Looney's not on the type of deal that makes him irreplaceable. Right, you get this guy much protected yourself, Like you said, get this guy cheaper, You create competition and training camp, and you've probably got your Mackenzie Bernardo for the next two years, maybe the starter if you don't get Yeah,

give you that insurance. Right. They love young offensive lineman. Yeah, no, that's a good point. Let's all right, let's hand this one in like it. I felt like I needed to lay that from Oregon State. You did. I just I felt like I need to lay it out because I feel like that is a type of pick that would piss some people off, because you know, we have Frederick. What are we doing? Yeah? You know, well, bet you butt,

you're thinking about a guy for the future. If, like you say, they they're not able to get Frederick done, which we kind of think that might happen. The draft is much more about three years from now than the first week of especially here in the fourth out well, okay, so Isaac Suamalo, I'm happy with that, I really am. Okay, here we go. We're now into the fifth round three, which we originally own this pick. Yep, we originally own this pick. So the Bryce Butler picks is the Bryce

Butler pick right here. So really we got Bryce Butler for nothing. That's and maybe maybe he will work out. I mean, and so give Will McClay and this and the Scouts pro guys some credit if in fact that does work out. We'll just have to see. Butler's showed some flashes last. We answered a mail back question about him today. Matter of fact, we did courage you guys

to take a look. Okay, Well, the players were looking at Dane It Well, you know, we haven't gott sever yet, so we're looking you know, some of these guys, Trevor Davis from from cal who else we got here, Peyton Kid from UCLA, Jordan Payton, he's still available, Chris Moore from Cincinnati. So there are a few where Eider sivers available. But North Tennessee North we got our volunteer. He is still available. But you know, I'm looking at this board

and we've gone offense last three picks. I think we need let's go back to defense. Okay, And a guy who's still available I think would fit this scheme as Malipe Collins from Nebraska. Oh there you go, that three technique get under tackle, right, I think he'd be uh yeah, fourth. Oh there we go. Now, yeah, that's all right, have a fourth round grade on him on my board. He's available one forty three. He's a guy that's some teams are worried about him because he's undersized. He's not gonna

be a fit for everyone. You know, he's going to be a specialized player. It only gonna be a four three tackle. So I think there is absolutely a chance he could fall to this point. And he is on the board, So I think that's a guy we have to long conversation about. That's the exciting thing about this Day three in particular, is I mean, thirty two teams value these guys a different way. So everybody's gonna they're like, oh my god, how did this guy fall to us?

We had him in the third round every but that's what we had to look at that when we were talking about trading out of one on one. Yeah, and they're gonna absolutely and you know, every team has about one hundred and fifty ish players on our draft board, so you figure, you know a lot of these guys they just right off immediately and not ideal for our scheme. He won't be on our board, injury, whatever won't be

on our board. So absolutely it's you know, the next time the draft plays out exactly how we think will be the first time. So absolutely, yeah, yeah, I agree with you. So MALIEK. Collins stem he makes a lot of sense there because you're talking about that guy that can be that under tackle right moving around all but he is an active guy. Absolutely, former high school wrestler. You know he can't go wrong with those kind of Cabsolutely, all right, it pick five, one forty three, MALIEK. Collins,

defensive tackle, and that gives you from Nebraska. That gives you your fourth tackle. Yeah, if you got Terrell mcclan behind Tyrone Crawford. Yeah, well McClain, I mean we hope for him. Hey, game, I know, Okay, we made a pick. We've got we've we've made that pick. We're gonna take our final break and we're gonna come back and finish this draft. You're listening to Dallas Cowboys mock draft on

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and MALIEK. Collins, the defensive tackle from Nebraska. We're now into the sixth round and this is where the Cowboys have six picks they do not have as they have four picks sixth round. They do not have a seventh round pick in this draft. So it's all gonna be. It's picked one eighty nine, two twelve, two sixteen, and two seventeen. And the compensatory picks you cannot trade cannot spring next springs. So yeah, so again picks one eighty nine,

two twelve, two sixteen, and two seventeen. It is interesting because technically you can trade those picks your comp picks next year right now, right for you can. The Browns did that in the in the Eagles deal, they traded their comp pick from next year. So just something to keep an eye on in this draft. We'll see if some teams do that. But okay, one eighty nine, we're gonna let's stay here. We haven't picked wide receiver yet. Okay, I think that's when you look at we like the

direction we've gone so far. Three on defense, three on offense. We've addressed the defensive line, we've addressed the secondary address quarterback, running back, and the offensive line. Wide receiver still a glaring need. You know, this is gonna sound like a This is gonna sound crazy, but the Cowboys have a coach on the receiver. Coach recruited a kid that I like, the North kid from Tennessee, Marquez North. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and I could see Derek Dooley. I mean, they we

didn't address it early. It's it's now into the sixth round. He's on the board. This is a guy that's got size now. Now he's the thing about him in is his production start off well early and then it's faded. He's been a guy, it's been a little bit banged up. But man, you watched this kid play on tape. I mean the far as the size factor and how he the traitsleader in that room. Yeah, that's what I'm saying at length. Yeah, I know, you look at freshman year

thirty eight catches, sophomore year thirty catches, junior year six. Yeah, and that's probably not the best way to go about him, probably, but I could see, you know, what what are is measurable, So because that's what I'm looking at. From twenty three pounds, he ran a four four eight at the combine four four six of the pro days, so he's a consistent four four guys at that size to twenty three, really long arms, thirty three and a half. It's a mistake.

I mean he's he's des like he's as, which I mean, that's not what I'm trying. I mean, he had six catches his last college HEAs and I'm not trying to say he's gonna produce like Dez, but body type, uh and the impressively fast for a guy that big, like des Ye last line of my report. North can be a better pro than college player if he stays healthy, focuses on the details of the position, projects the developmental receiver, worth the gamble in the mid rounds to be a

snatch and secure wide out. Yeah, I think I had him on the board as my fifth round guy. If I'm looking at that right Tay So, Yeah, at this this this point in time, if we're talking at pick one eighty nine, and the fact that he's got a guy like Tay says, got a coach in the room that recruited him, knows him, evaluated him, I think he's got a shot. I mean, this might be one of those things. He guys in the sixth round. You're just looking for traits, Yeah, you're looking for guys checks the boxes.

He does. And I mean, I I'm not gonna say I don't care, but yeah, I mean these are the type. That's what these picks are. Four. Yeah. Again, it's like a lot of ticket. Maybe this guy's a beast. Yeah, absolutely, you know it is good. You look at the situation they used to on with Devon Street being in the third year. Devon Street needs to elevate and he needs

to do something. I mean, I know he's look at the trades, but he this kid, Devon Streets not as fast as this kid or not as quick as this There's only three wide receivers on this team that should feel secure in their role for twenty sixteen. As far as i'm Colebe easily does Bryant and Terence Williams. Bingo, there you go. How about it Marks North? I think that's our pick. Okay, hows cowboys like yeah and pick Marquez North, wide receiver from Tennessee at pick one, eight nights.

So now, all right, any Jeff Swims you want to trade in, I want to see your face against Really, I'm just rooting for Dan Dane and not know a guy I want it. I don't think it's gonna happen. While we're paying the big bucks. Because he when he I wish you could have seen that face personal. See, he looked at me like and he just said he had that look like can't help your bro went back to he went back to the batcave that night and was like, never again. Now I've been watching tape ever since.

All right, now we're in the camps, so these can't be dealt obviously, So we're staying at these picks. Two twelve to sixteen, two seventeen, um oo, back to back to back. Yeah, let's look at two twelve m Jordan y Si ninety seven. Week we go back to kind of some guys that we you thought about an inmate, you thought about a corner safety. I mean we haven't.

We haven't looked at the defensive back. And then we think that it's a pretty deep draft when you start talking about and maybe these guys can stretch through it. At two twelve, I might be asking a lot to get some type of a secondary player. I'm assuming Jalen Mills is gone, Yeah, long gone, he's long gone. I'm Cyrus Jones is he's still there? Nope, he is gone. Fourth rounder. You're getting into the territory where you're just take again. You're just kind of like, Okay, this guy's

got he's showing me something. I see something standout. I mean, let me throw out a name that was brought here. Corey James, Corey James. Okay, Colorado State. Okay, wait a minute. Now, you instead of my secondary guy, you went linebacker. Did Yeah, that's all right. I'm with it. And I boys love drafting linebackers. Nobody's ever heard. Let me tell you what though, that's a good name. That's a good name because if you watch him on Colorado State, I think the guy

might be able to play safety. I mean he's a six one twenty nine. Yeah, I think maybe you might think because I see movement skill, William, I see burst, I see an explosive player. Maybe you know and I'll tell you what correct me wrong day hand on the ground rusher guy. Well, and that's what his first three years, that's what he did. In a senior year, they moved to more of a mic position, so right, you know, with a new coaching staff. But yeah, he's he's a

guy that we talked about the trade. It's a four to sixth athlete. His three cone six six five. It's unbelievable. He wasn't a combined guy, but he tore up the Pro day. Absolutely understand why Cowboys have shown some intros brought him here to Valley Ranch for a visit against six one, two hundred twenty nine pounds. You know, where do you plan him? I think it's the biggest question if we can find a spot for this guy. I think it's a good here. Watching him run on tape

is impressive. I mean he gets to a ton a ton of play, So I get worse. You're talking about a special teams guy. Yeah, that can we don't really stand out? Yeah we can need and them. Well they just brought back high Wolver, But I mean you always need guys like right, I don't. I don't have a problem with that at anyway, you talked I was thinking secondary, but you talked me into this one with that linebacker. You did it again, Dane. The Cowboys have drafted a

linebacker every year that I've covered this team. I hadn't thought about that, but they love doing that. Okay, let's turn that card in there. Let's go with Corey James, linebacker, Colorado State. That's gonna be Selection two. Twelve. So now we're two sixteen sixteen. Okay, you're talking about secondary. Oh like you got one for me? Well, let's look at the board. See who who we got available here? Uh? Secondary? At does point in the draft, I don't know these

nagel really jump. How about how about like the Millikan kid. I talked about him, right the safety, Yeah I talked was that? Yeah he later? Maybe he is? I am I thinking too much. You're a guy, you're a fan of Milligan. Uh. Yeah, we talked about a little bit uab transfer. Uh you know, as part of that hold the bacle and then you know, goes into ledo. The thing that I've said about him is he jumps off the tape and turns the toughness. Yeah, no, no, no,

that that there's no doubt about that. I think that maybe this might be a guy that they that that not a lot of people have talked about. We didn't tell me more on him last week? Yeah we did, we did, Yeah we did rolling Yeah, paying attention for sure. But I'm just looking at my notes and again I brought up the name because I saw a wrap up tackler. I saw him playing the slot, I saw him break on the ball, you could play us a down safety

could cover some ground. I mean, these are things I'm watching New mass Temple Bowling, Green Arkansas, watching these games, and he's making plays. And at five ten and a half one ninety five, you know, maybe he's a guy that could come in and and and be that type of a player down safety playing the slot cover a little bit. I think it picked two sixteen, we're probably doing pretty well to grab that guy right there. Yeah, and you know you have these guys that you're talking about.

Safety's Barry Church, I mean former Toledo Rocket. Yeah, okay, get replaced by Delito guy. I mean, safety is really interesting. Obviously you got Ramsey there and we drafted him at four overall. But right, you're I mean, if you don't do it this year, you're probably replacing safeties in twenty seventeen. I'd have a hard time believing both of JJ Wilcox and Barry Church will be back. Okay, either of them is back. So Roland Milligan I talked to group into it.

Thank you for letting me do that. Group. Roland Milligan, a safety from Toledo. He will be the Cowboys pick at at in the sixth round at two sixteen. If he sucks your fire. Yeah, that's right, Dane's Dane's not thrilled over here. He's letting you have this. Well, he has let me have this, but I've given him some other ones. Okay, Well, this last pick, I think there's a guy we both can agree on, and I think we can find that guy. You know, we've gone back

to back defense guys that could be solid death depth players. Um, go back on offense and let's look at Okay, we've addressed quarterback, we've addressed running back, addressed wide receiver, we've addressed the offensive line. I think the one spot left that maybe we could go, oh, you're gonna go tied in here man, Yeah, and wouldn't be a Cowboys draft without one here you go. Yeah. But we're doing this

at two seventeen, which makes a lot of sense. Hey, Okay, there were a lot of angry people about that Jeff Swain pick last year. Like, guys, calm down, it's the sixth round. Yeah, I think it was more giving up a future pick. But I get, okay, giving up a future seventh round pick, right, you know what I mean? It's okay, Jeff Swains a you got a guy, go ahead tell you well, I mean we're looking okay, Bryce Williams, is there. No Adam Foenie, He's the one guy, Adam.

You and I both pey. I was about to say, if you didn't say Adam Foenie's name, I was about to fire you on this show. Got a fourth round grade on him, broadest, damn right, I have a fourth round grade on him. He was stuck behind Michael Prue at all those years in southern Illinois. Six seven and a half, two hundred fifty six pounds. He's a project and he's not He's not gonna win any foot races anytime soon. He's more of a four nine athlete, but

he catches every body. I mean he physical. He's physical at the point, but he has that a projectable body type right for the position. So almost six six two sixty six seven and a half. Yeah, I'm gonna take this opportunity to point out for everybody listening that his name is spelled f u e h n e phoeney. So when you're watching on Saturday night and they call the guy's name and your friends try to call him queen a or waha, Yeah, will right twy the pronunciation guy.

Get that. That's why you buy the draft guy from Dane Brugler. All right, so we're okay with taking the tide in from Southern Illinois. Right. I have a hard time thinking any late sixth or seventh round pick would like make me mad, you know. I was like, okay, fine, whatever, it's a six or seven tire, all right, Like, yes, oh, we're all mad. At that point, we were all mad.

We're tired, and mad is what we were. We had Lawrence Gibson on yeah, and like he came on the and like I was about I was about to be like, he's not gonna make the team anything. And they were like, we got Lawrence Gibson on the Happen to You with Mark Nazacha as well. Yeah, we need to watch. Okay, that's our mock draft in uh Ramsey, Kevin Dodd, CJ Pro Size, Jacoby Prisette, Isaac Samalo, Malik Collins, Marquez North Corey, James Roland, Milligan, and Adam Poene. We just added ten players.

That makes us a better football team. Yeah, I'm like the fact that we got our fifth round pickback, by the way, got your makes you happy? Makes me happy. We do that. I love that competitive for a quarterback, running back of the future, pass rush of the future, We'll see Dion of the future, days of the future. Everybody. Everybody's great on draft day. Oh no, we got an a on this one. And in August you're like, oh my god, sucks. Marcus North day healthy training a training camp.

Dave's like, why is Marques? We're standing next to me with a hamstring problem. All right, we'll put this up our mock draft up on up on the draft show. Uh, on the for our tweet, we'll tweet out our guys on that Uh. The next gonna happen the next uh. For the next ten minutes, KNT. Garrison's gonna let's go a little longer. So for the next ten minutes or so, we're gonna take some calls. Gets what you think, Maybe give us some ideas and go from there. So, Kitty,

I'm gonna turn this over to you. By the way, folks, everybody's doing good. We're happy the drafts here. So if you get to your point, we're all doing great, and we'll go that route. Tell Brian when you became a fan though, yeah no, don't thank you. Coach. All right, Ken, you got it? All right, Alex and Colleen, you're up Hi there, guys, Hi Hey, uh quick question? Well, really, I guess I did my own little mock craft sure myself and the people that I would have picked just

what to pick they have as of right now. Um, I would think balliots. I was the first round spencer, second round, Howard from Baylor third round, and then Alan the quarterback from Nebraska U Arkansas fourth round. And then I have at one thirty five, I have a count Hand from Michigan State, the defensive van. I think you'd be a pretty good steel he probably has kind of

a little technique tis to work there. Uh. One eighty nine I have I think I'm I'm not sure if I'm saying his last name, Nick Virgil Virgil, then that's his last name, the linebacker. And then I have a David Robinson from Florida the wide receiver. And then James Coundhound from a Southern Utel. Yeah, two sixteen, defensive end, and they got it. I would probably thick they's be available at that time. At two seventeen is Jamie Smith

from a Neardin. I know cowboys would like to do like to British a lot of injured players they did last season last season, and then you know, who knows, who knows he might be just a great deal here what we all think. Thank you very much, appreciate it. Two points that came from that that I think are really interesting. We've we have talked about Noah spense ad nauseum. Yeah, but on the day before the draft, give me what I mean where what do you think is realistic for

this guy? I think he'll be a second round er. Now see they're at thirty four. Is he going at twenty to the Jets? I really don't know, because he really I think he's gonna go. I think he's gonna go in the first round. I do too, because I don't think you know, people like his name, it's a recognizable name. In my final mock draft, I have him

going eighteen to Indianapo. Yeah. His transgressions are far. He's too talented and there's been too little drama about that for me to think, you fall that makes sense to go to the Colts to and I think you need a pass rusher. Think they're desperate they're going back to four three? Are they four? I think they're gonna do both. I mean, I think it's gonna be a hybrid version. I think regardless anybody, I think he would be a monster for the Jets with Todd Bowles, the stuff they

could do with him. Yeah, lining up to oh and the other the other one, I'm sorry to I mean to cut you off. Um, Jayleen Smith, I mean, and I know that's another one that you can't really answer, but in the late six I mean, that's he's gonna be interesting. I'm head schefter tweeted out earlier. He thinks he's gonna go in the third round. One coach thinks he's gonna go in the first round, which is just madness to me. Um, And you just can't take a

flyer on a player. Yeah, Jalen Smith went healthy. Is awesome. He's terrific player. But you just can't waste a pick like that, because that's what it's basically a waste of a pick. What Cowboys pick comes up before you're willing to consider that as an option. If you get me down to that two twelve to sixteen two seventeen area, but someone's gonna beat me to the one five. I consider I think I would really you consider it. I mean,

cowboys might have better information than any anyone else. But you said there's teams that have him at at ten percent chance of ever playing again. Right, But and so you're gonna take a guess because you already thus picks up one five anyway, why not? Right? It's a it's a comp pick. You know you can't trade it. It's it's b w web. That's how I think of it. Yeah, it's b w web. It depends who else is there, Obviously, it's a I don't say. I'm not saying that's the pick.

I'm saying I would at least he would be in the conversation. I got you, okay, Ken? Who else you got? Let's go to Kurt in Maryland? Kurt, you're up? Okay? Question I have for you guys, it's uh, it's more about um if we because I'm in love with Ramsey and I'm in love with Zeke. Okay, do you think it's possibility that weekend get Zeke at four and maybe try to squeeze maybe in that Cleveland section, maybe for a number two this year and number one next year?

Would that be too much? And get Zeke from Ramsey? Z? So you gotta trade up from thirty four to probably eight, if not higher. I mean, I honestly think Baltimore would consider taking him too. Well, So I think you would almost have to go Ramsey at four and then eight go back into into get Zeke. Yeah, because I think Ramsey, Yeah, five, six, seven, he's gonna go one of those spots you've got. The Dolphins are red on your tail. Who want to trade

with someone? We will do them for bills at eight. Yeah, so you would have to give up thirty four to four sixty seven. Well, thirty four and a one next year? Mean, is that enough for Cleveland? That's a twenty six spot jump they collect picks, that is, that's twenty six spot jump from up where you were. I think you have to give up one on one. I don't know if you have to give us sixty seven, but you have to give thirty four one on one and then probably

your first next year. Yeah, so you're talking about bets. Yeah, if that's all I had to do, I would consider get both of them. To get them both. You're taking yourself out of the first round next year, you are, but hopefully you're not picking a Hopefully you're picking twenty fifth. Yeah, if you're picking twenty fifth and you got those two guys one four, I think I would do that if I,

honestly I thought it had to be more than that. Yeah, if you if I had to get if I gave up thirty four one on one and whatever price, the price of it right now might be better than the price next year. Yeah, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the way that these things, the way that it's going on, is it because is it? I mean the quarterback market is set. Is that's what's making this less valuable? So when what think about the despair you're going to feel

when oh you're absolutely hurt. Absolutely, Hey, you're talking to a guy that's done that for two years. We gave up the eighteen Yeah, gave up the eighteenth pick of the draft. Fine, then turn around and gave the seventh pick up of the draft. Yeah, sting. What if Jalen Ramsey has three pick sixes and Zeke wins Offensive Rookie of the Year, then I'd be hyped. YEA, then that you sting out of it. But that's a big if. It is a big if. I am surprised that it

only costs that much, is what I'm saying. I would consider that deal. I don't think they would, but I would. I would. Yeah, and Jacot is hyped. To Tylor's point, that's going to be sitting pretty the Taylor's point, there's going to be a lot of action there, so you have to overpay what everyone else is wanting to pay. So it's that's going to be the sweet spot for Zeke if he gets past four, that number eight pick. Okay, all of that set, I don't see that happening. No,

we're really fun. Zeke is gonna go on top five and he might be just like Darren McFadden at this team fourth overall. Hopefully he starts off better or for overall, he's coming to the Cowboys Garrison go ahead, Yeah, staying in Maryland and going to Walter. You're up, Walter, Walter, how's it going? Hey, Hey, just wanted to say a couple of things real quick to start off. I feel like in the later rounds we have a better possibility

of addressing defense than we do offense. I know that there are glaring needs on the defensive side of the ball, but if we are able to address a defensive line, maybe not secondary why wouldn't we with the window that we have for Tony, with the mindset that Jerry has of trying to capitalize in this window, why wouldn't we give Tony Romo the player that helps him the most. I know there's a lot of debate about who we take at four ring, if Ellie deserves a fourth round,

fourth overall pick. I feel like if we pick up Elliot, then that's the popular opinion. If we pick up Elliott that helps Tony Romo, not only with the past protection, uh, you know, possibly being suspect with Alphad Morris on past protection and you don't know what the MACS winner so far as being healthy. I think you're picking up Elliott us up the off Mans that play. In twenty fourteen. We were great for several reasons, mainly because we were able to cons Okay, I'm sorry to lose you out

of his mind. Okay, thank you though, thanks for your call. Yeah, I kind of break it up there, but we understand your point. We try to address that. But does does help in Romo? We drafted in our draft, We drafted process in the third round. But I mean, but you got him defensive help to try and I honestly believe that you have to make this pick a number four independent of anything else. Yeah, you can't. I mean, I'm not even thinking about could process be there at sixty seven, right?

You know? I'm making because I want the best football player for my team at number four. Is that Ramsey is at Zeke. It doesn't matter the depth of the other positions. I want the best player available at four, and so that's that's what it comes down to. Zeke is it Ray? I had I had Zeke above Ramsey two and three on my top fifty. But I understand if they take Ramsey, I get it to similar tears. Yeah,

they're not. It's not like one's clearly above the other. Yeah, y'all tell me if this is flawed thinking, But I just think it's It's far more like a lot like quarterback.

It's far more likely you're going to find impact makers on defense, at least early guys who can contribute early in their careers in the top sixty or so picks than it is on I mean, it's way more likely you're going to find a running back who surprises you, like an Alba Morris laid in the draft, as opposed to a sixth round d N just being a boss from the get go. That just doesn't happen, as Jared Allens,

don't happen very often, not often. All right, Oh well that's it of this kid's got to go do things. So lunchtime. It is lunchtime. I want to thank everybody for being out there for all for the calls we appreciate, thanks for checking in with us. Thanks to my scouts, Dane Burglar, David Hellman, Tayler Stern, thank you so much for being here today. We will hay in the barn and the Hayes in the barn. We'll do this. Yeah, we got the break rolling tomorrow at eleven pm in

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