Draft Show: Full 7-Round Mock Draft

taken this journey with you. Right after the Cowboys caught the ball, dropped the ball. We started. Then we went through some Senior Bowl stuff. We really did, didn't we. We came to you from a combine Indianapolis, and now we're working through some workouts we've done, and now we're here to where we are a little over twenty four hours away. My mask's terrible, but I know we've got a day. We got twenty eight hours, something like thirty one hours. I'm sorry. So this thing is gonna get

put to bed by a lot of NFL teams. A lot of scouts are looking forward to this. I know this group right here is looking forward to it. This group being Dane Brugler from CBS Sports, David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and Kent Garrison, our producer for the Draft show. For all these weeks, it is upon us, and we wanted to take the opportunity to do a seven round mock draft, and the idea of the Draft Show, as always, it's it's for you. We wanted to educate

the fans. We wanted you to be a part of it. You have with tweets and calls and questions, and we appreciate every bit of that. But we're gonna try and set up what we've always done here, a war room like setting, and and try and go through some scenarios that could either happen yes, no, But we want to make you think. We want to make you out there think, okay, well I go up to get a guy, Well I settle right there? Do I want to wait for a guy? We're just gonna try and do a bunch of things,

and that's our idea today. We're gonna get through this mock draft and then at the end of it we have time, we're gonna take some calls at eight eight eight, eight, five five two two ninety seven not so much the questions I need. We just want to know about the draft. What you think, you know, as you're listening along to take notes, have your own ideas of what you want

to do. So, with all that being said, I'm gonna turn this over to Dane Brugler, and Dane's gonna run this mock draft for us and Dave and myself and Dane, we're gonna have some discussions here and uh and just go through it. So Dane is the floor is yours? Thanks Brian, And you know, mock drafts, it's it's all about scenarios. It's all about examining how this draft could play out. And obviously picking twenty seven in the first round,

you know a lot of things can happen. Let's first, before we get started, just take a few minutes quick, pow wow. What we're thinking in this draft? We want to come away with we want we know we want a running back. At some point, Adrian Peterson Vikings aren't playing ball right, so you know we want to come away with a running were still point We're still gonna make a call though, are we still thinking about even though that the Minnesota has come out and said that

we're not gonna make a call. So that's that's yeah. Are we prepared though, in case Minnesota calls us? I think you always, you know, you have to be prepared for that. But you know, I likelihood not, very okay, very likely. Let's let's focus on the players on the draft. Okay, So we're gonna focus on that draft first. If so, if we're sitting in our war room Minnesota calls, we're

gonna say, hey, we're just focused on our draft. We'll cross that bridge when we come if if it happens, you know, but I think, yeah, let's focus on the players we have on our board. Okay. You know our scots has done a lot of work. Well, we'll focus on that and take it from there. Okay. Um, we have to talk about corner. We know we want to come away with a corner at some point in this draft.

True defensive line definitely a postackle or an end either one. Yeah. Yeah, uh quarterback is that a position worth addressing in this draft? You know, if it, if it happens where it matches up, great, you know, maybe that's something we do. But if it doesn't, I don't. I think we're okay with not coming away with a quarterback, if that's what happens. Yeah, I agree

with that. I mean I think that I've I've talked about the petty a lot, and if we got to this point in the draft where Petty is a consideration, I will go up on the table. But I understand what we're saying there and the other the last thing before we get started trading up trading back. I think, you know, we're all worried about that twenty seventh pick in our first round options being wiped out, so our

our phone lines are open. Uh. You know, there's a chance that we could get a nice deal at twenty seven to move back maybe in the second round some more picks, but that's not something we'll really know until twenty seven are close to it, So could be a little bit of a gamble there. So um, picking up twenty seven tough to feel great about it. So the position though we're thinking about we are we are we thinking about going up for one particular position? Or do you want to go up and get uh? I mean,

is a cornerback going to be the spot? Is a running back? Are we just full into go? I think we're willing to go up, but I think we have to watch running back in corner? At least for me, I've I'm willing to go up, but really only for those two things. Yeah, which one more than one more

than the other. I'm at top of my list. I'm willing to go up for Todd Gurley, Okay, but I would be willing to go up if you know, if a Kevin Johnson or maybe a Marcus Peters is there and it's not giving, if you're not giving away the house, I would do it. What's the sweet spot for Gurley? If he gets past sixteen? Is that one where we consider him? If he gets fast to Chargers at seventeen,

I think you have to start thinking about it. Yeah, I think that if we're sitting there, in my mind, I'm kind of thinking that Miami is now a player at fourteen, I think that you have to find a way to get ahead of San Diego in reality. But I'm with you on that. See, but we don't have to dedicate too much time to this. But I think if you're talking about getting in front of San Diego, then you're talking about spending a lot more than maybe I want to. But once, I mean, if he falls

into into that eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. You know you might be able to get away with giving a giving up a little bit low. Okay, all right, let's get this thing started. Um, no surprise or off the bat quarterbacks Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariotta one two, So no surprises there. Uh, moving on down the first round. There we go our first running backs off the board at fourteen, Todd Gurley to the Dolphins. So we don't even need

to need to have that conversation. Todd Gurley unfortunately will not be a Dallas cowboy, and it's a bummer, but it is a guy that we all like, and it just uh, but that's that's incredibly realistic. That really well see that, And that's the and that's the thing about it. I think we knew in this draft that that was where the spot was gonna be for the for Gurley once the two thumbs up on the medical stuff came out. Miami, you know, needing a running back right there. I showed

me the Instagram video yesterday of him sprinting on the treadmill. Yeah. Absolutely, I starting to think he might be ready for a week one. Yeah. I think if you if you talk about in Miami and you look at their team needs as well, wide receiver, corner, running back. We're all in the mix right there. So that's not a surprise. And with Gurley, it's almost like you know, at that point, how do you pass? Yeah, one of the best talents. So absolutely he's in that mid first range. Okay. Um,

A few picks later, Randy Gregory off the board. So another player that might have Yeah, I think there's a there's a few Cowboys fans that are a little bummed, but I think most Cowboys fans get that a little happy. Take that choice out of my hands. Okay, don't even have to worry about it. Randy Gregory off the board of fifteen to the forty nine ers. Okay, So the

forty nine ers take Gregory outboard. Okay. So we were worried about that as far as would that guy be a potential storry were we willing to Maybe we weren't thinking about trade nut for Randy was not one of those guys at all. Right, but if he's at twenty seven, then that's something it'd be tough to exactly. It's you talk about it all the time. It's like, I'm happy

that I don't have to worry about it. Okay, don't even if Randy Gregory would have got into, say around twenty one around Cincinnati, would we have thought about that. I'm not going up for that guy. Not at all. I don't think so, not at all. So it does it sound like we were going up for talking about a guy who has the talent to be top ten and was widely considered top five when this started, and he's slipping to the end of the first round for reasons that have nothing to do with his ability. Okay,

So I'm not true. I'm not giving up. So we're okay. We're okay with Gregory going off there. We thought that he potentially could have been a top ten guy, absolutely, but now he goes to he goes to at like you said, Sam fra Leisco at fifteen. So we're good with that. Okay, it's too bad, but we're not hearpro Okay, great, um, second back off the board seventeen to San Diego Melvin Gordon.

So there's another possible trade off. If Melvin Gordon was in early twenties a player, we talk about maybe moving up for Detroit at twenty three. Uh, that could have been a possibility, but he's top twenty, he's gone. Dave told me though he would only have traded up for Gurley. I agree with him on that. I don't think if Gurly gets to twenty seven, I'm okay with that. Gordon, Yeah, I'm down to take Gordon at twenty seven. I don't want to give up picks to get him, though, that's

just me. Okay, Well, we lost two backs, so but board, Yeah, okay, all right, And I think it's not it's not a shocker. I think we expected that. So I think now our our focus in the first round has to shift the corner, which you yes, yeah, we're down to two backs. Yeah, unless you know you're comfortable with those second round backs. But I'm worried now about these corners. I am worried about that out of twenty seven. Uh okay, Kansas City's

up at eighteen. This is where I think Kevin Johnson makes a ton of sense, where we could see him coming off the board. Um, but we don't want to. We don't have to give us second round pick to go and get him if we went up to eighteen. So that's not something I think we're ready to do. Um And never mind, they just took Cameron Irving, so we don't have to worry about that. Oh wow, they took Florida State off versal offensive lineman. So he goes eighteen to the Chiefs. So we were sweating that pick

right there. We think Kevin Johnson, that's could be the first spot because probably Waynes is gonna be up at the top of that board. Maybe probably went Minnesota to eleven, maybe something. Honestly, Houston sixteen is a player or a team late I'm hearing Kevin Johnson is a strong possibility. So sixteen eighteen two, Ok, we're sweating Kevin Johnson. So I think that's uh, that's uh so, no, Kevin Johnson at eighteen. Does eighteen feel really high for Irving to you? Yes?

So no, I think, uh some teams like him, I think better than we do. Uh. He kind of gives me that Travis Frederick feel that like you know, yeah, a lot of people are let me, hey, let me just give you a little inside about Kansas City there why the pick was made. They that's a need center is definitely a need for for the for the chief I mean, if you get your guy who cares were Yeah,

they're there. Previous center Rodney Hudson, went to Oakland, right, Rodney Hudson, a guy they drafted out of Florida States. So they go back to that Florida state. Well, yeah, the kids crush. They got a kid named Cush. It's gonna be the starter there. So they're gonna look for it. They're gonna look for some competition there. John Dorsey I worked with it in Green Bay. He likes those Florida State type kids. So not a bad call right there.

On the versatility, a guy that played left tackle played center, so it gives them options wide receiver, center, and inside linebacker. For the Chiefs, the receiver would not be a shock of Irvan goes top twenty. Yeah, okay, absolutely, Um nineteen. The Browns they go for Shot Perriman wide receiver, need one. Yeah, next up is pick twenty. Now this is uh, this is where it gets interesting. This is UH Philadelphia. Kevin Johnson. We talked about Kevin Johnson Byron Jones. There's a few

other corners that they're in the in the mix. Here do we try and move up? See if the Eagles are willing to do a deal, if we offer, say, if we offer twenty seven. Yeah, a third and say a fifth? Do you think that's worth it to go up to twenty and uh, you know, see if see if they might be able to do that. Well, the point differential on our charts looking at eight fifty for the Eagles six eighty for the Cowboys, So you're talking about giving up a third. So that's one thirty six.

We got to make up this difference somehow and what else was there? And a fifth that would be twenty six? So points total right there? Is what it's that one sixty six that's in the range right there? All right? So this is what we're talking about here, and correct me if I'm wrong. So we're I mean, every cornerback is in play. You got your pick of the litter of the cornerbacks right now except for Trey Wayne's TYA. At this point, Trey Wayne is the only quarterback off

the board. Wayne has never been a guy that we've talked about any We know that Philadelphia potentially is going to take a cornerback. That's that's the issue. And would they would they feel comfortable going back with us going up? All right? So I think here's this is the crux of the issue. You're talking about getting an impact top three starting cornerback at at twenty right, and then you know whoever it is, whether it's a running back or a pass rusher, you want a guy who can play

with sixty. And then you don't pick again until the seventh round, right, fourth? Fourth round? Fourth, Oh, I'm sorry, we gave up our fifth. Okay, So then you've got one twenty seven and then you don't pick till the seventh, right. So so this I mean, you're really talking about two you gotta hit, Let me have picks, and then hope

for the best with the rest. Are we comfortable whatever corner they leave on the board, That's what I'm saying, if they leave, if they in fact, if Johnson's in play, if Peters is in play, and Jones is in play, are we comfortable? And I'm sweating it, and just go ahead and taking whatever's Here's the You're sitting there thinking there's three guys there and you only got to get seven more picks until one of them's in your lap.

But when one of them goes off the board, it makes me wonder, you know, it makes me worry that the other two go right after that. I do not feel great about both those guys lasting to twenty seven. But if you look at the Eagles, though, Maxwell and Thurman were added this year, I mean they've added one, So I mean, do they do we maybe sweat and say, hey,

they might not take a corner at all. Let's uh, let's let's float the offer out there, see what the Eagles say, and just you know, we'll see what they say. A deal like that, I can see if they're willing to bite. So we'll submit that they have declined, but we have a counter offer. Okay, they want pick twenty seven and sixty to move up to twenty. Hell no, go away. So the first and second round are to

go out to twenty. Now, that to me, that's a gross over payment because seven picks, that tells me they they want they have someone at twenty they want right there. They want if they if we'll overpay, okay, maybe they'll move back. Yeah, they're they're they're throwing they're throwing chum in the water to see how bad we want this pick. I'm not giving up a first and a second for anybody not named Adrian Peterson. Okay, so we're in agreement.

We're declined. That Yeah, we can't, we can't go there. Yeah, we decline and Eagles take Byron Jones. So okay, so they're gonna pare. They're gonna pair Jones with Maxwell there. So not that that that makes sense, though, I've got to consider that a massive upset. If Jones is the second corner taken on that, it would be surprising. Yeah, definitely, it's but this guy likes those athletic type. I mean, they might think the guy could play safety though too.

It might be another thing that he might be he might be killing. I'm not saying I'm not saying it's a bad pick. I just you know, I think Peters and Johnson are better. Yeah, just me. Yeah, there's no consensus when it comes to these corners. They're really so would you say that's a wow pick then, I mean we always talk about wow. It's not wow because we've been saying for a while now we think they'll all be gone because we would all take Jones if he

was there. Yeah, and always said Jones is kind of in my This is all my opinion, obviously, but Jones has kind of been like my consolation prizee, Like, well, really, Peters and Johnson are gone. If Jones, IF's the one thing we know about Chip Kill, he wants bigger, faster, and smarter. That's Byron Jones, a high, high character kid.

So I think that that fit that marriage makes sense at twenty for them, But it does mean Johnson still available, and so if we look at it, the next team I think we have to worry about drafting a corner is twenty two. Yeah, surely it's the Steelers. So let's let's talk with Cincinnati at twenty one. Let's see if we can possibly do something there. We would vote them the same deal we floated Philly. Is that I mean,

I think we take take away the fifth. What if we do just a twenty seven and our third for picks twenty one? And you know what's that come out to? Um? So we got So we're talking about again pick six eighty a third round pick would be one thirty six. So the differential to help me on the map here, eight hundred for Cincinnati, six eighty for the Cowboys. So that's what one twenty right there? Am I right about that? It's eight hundred for the eight hundred for the Bengals

pick at twenty one. Yeah, so we're talking about one twenty we flip them the one thirty six. That's that's if you it's it's it's it might it might get us the Bengals tradition. Let me tell you about my history with the Bengals. You have to they're a team that you don't traditionally call because they don't traditionally not that they're not big on moving, but you're gonna have to overpay a little bit to make them maybe want to get off that spot. Let's let's let's do this.

Let's see if they'll throw in their sixth rounder one ninety seven. Oh, so you're asking for something back, so we'll we'll do one in three twenty seven and ninety one thirteen points difference right there on that. I mean, that's a that that balances the trade, right, that balances to trade. They don't like to move? Are they down to do it? All right? Let's let's ask this dispense who they want? All right? Let's ask what if they would just take the What if we just overpay and

not ask for the flip back? I mean, what if we just let's let's I think we try it and see if you know, we never know if they if they might do it, okay, okay, okay, And if they do it, great, if they If they don't, maybe we take that away. Okay. I mean, you know who knows who Cincinnati wants. Maybe there's someone there they really want, or maybe they want to move back. Yeah, there's someone

that later they cove it. Yeah, six and as team needs right there, as we look at them, top three tight end tackle and a safety would be so could you talk about him Max Williams? At that part people talked about funches. They might think that they could get one of those guys. So Max Williams at twenty seven and pick up a pick. I think who they really want as an offensive tackle? Yeah? I think that's that could be Humphrey's repeat. There's so many offensive tackle options.

I think they feel comfortable getting one the later first round. So let's let's float that offer. Can't see what happens. We have a deal, okay, so we before we you know, do a done deal. Are we comfortable with moving we're giving up ninety one now, you know we hate to give up the top one hundred pick here, yeah, I do, but I want to make sure we get the first round pick right instead of worrying about the third round pick. We don't know who's gonna be on the board at

ninety one. Okay, let's worry about make sure where we get this first round pick, right, Okay, I hate trading this pick lot less than I hated trading the third last year, because it was seventy eight last year. You're talking about a pretty big difference. Right. You don't want to give up a top one hundred pick, but you don't feel bad about sending ninety one to somebody you're nine picks away from one hundred. I mean it's yeah, it's it's not good, but it's a low cost third round.

We feel good about this player that we won, Kevin john I mean yeah, we feel he can be a Day one starter or a guy that instantly helps our cornerback depth, a player that is a is a big upgrade for our defense. So I think that's that. No. One we get Kevin Johnson makes this all work. Let's go get him. Kevin Johnson is so all right, So deal is done. We go up. We got Kevin Johnson. Oh,

Kevin Johnson's Calvin Johnson to Dallas. I picked twenty one, pick twenty went on and then we lost the third round pick and then one and we can pick it back and we get back to nine seven. So okay, so we've got We've got the the arguably the second best I mean, depending on who you arguably one of the top two quarterbacks draft. Yeah, our running backs were wiped out. We didn't have a running back to get.

We went ahead and went and got a cornerback who we think is just as good as potentially as Trey Wayne. And now your last five first round picks or either offensive lineman or cornerbacks. Yeah, I mean, just a tidbit, and not that I want to admit this, but part of moving up for Kevin Johnson. Part of it is that we like the player so much, right, But also part of it is I think we're terrified about twenty seven and who might be there, who might be left

for us? Yeah, you know, just picking from the scraps and well worrying about a deal. You know, moving back it's not going to be an option, and so you know, moving up to twenty one eliminates that we get a good player. We have to sacrifice ninety one. But I feel good about the player and moving up for our sake, for our sake, Peters is on the board right yes, for their sake, he might not be. It's a great point. And that's where Armock draft is talking about Peters is there.

People are probably saying, right now, we'll wait for Peters. He might not be on their board for them. So that's what that's what you have to weigh right there. Do you get that corner at that particular time, the second best corner in the draft, and that applies, that applies to so many other people. I mean, there's a much longer list of guys that we'd probably be willing to take the name. And I don't feel great about Peter's even making it the twenty seven. Yeah, that's good.

Steelers twenty two, Baltimore twenty six. Yeah. I mean you could. I mean and I mean, okay, we just took Kevin Johnson off the board. The Steelers could take Peters and with the next pick, you know, it can be that you can go from having that happened. They chase here last year a favorite. They got all their their top

three or four targets before Zach Martin. Last year all went like okay, we get to sixty now, Well just a quick thing, uh, the Bengals, so to see who they took a twenty seven I'm sorry, they took et Cedric Kaboohee at twenty seven, So they got they traded back, got the guy they wanted and a player that might have been in consideration for US if at twenty seven. Wo. Yeah, it's it'll be interesting to watch a boohe's career just

knowing that could have been our pick at twenty seven. Yeah, boohe kind of fixing that mold with with Clemmings, with Flowers. Jerry Jones talked about it yesterday offensive tackle. Don't be surprised, you know he floated that idea for you yesterday. So a Buoye, Clemmings, all those guys could have been in

play there at twenty seven. This is a team, I mean, I obviously you have a lot of needs on defense and things like that, but with Free and Tyre and yeah, they could afford to take him more than other teams could too, because you want your first round pick to play right. But you know, a buoy could sit here absolutely and recover and be your swing tackle after you know, you could put him on the pup and have him be your third tackle. One quick other note about the

first round, Shane Ray. He was available at twenty seven, so that that that's a conversation we would have had to have. Yeah, he went off the board with thirty two of the Patriots, so it won't be a discussion for us in the second round. Okay, so we have a first cornerback. I'm way happier giving up ninety one to get a corner that we all feel great about as opposed to trying to talk myself into four or

five different avenues at twenty seven. Yeah it's Gregory Ray. Yeah, kind of like yeah, yeah, but I don't know what I want to do. As opposed to Kevin Johnson. I'm like, okay, yes, I'm with you, got it? Go ahead, all right? First round cornerback we have, We feel great about it. Now. Second round, I think we're looking offense now or yeah, you know, running backs an option at sixty. I think I think this is the sweet spot. We've talked about

this all along. This is where a running back needs to be taken, and and and depending on who's that on that board. You know, we've talked about guys. We've talked about Duke Johnson, We've talked about Yelding. We've talked about a gaya. We've talked about these guys. I think sixties where we need to think about grabbing a running back myself. And uh okay, second rounds getting started. Just

looking at it. Uh TJ yelled in to Jacksonville. Thirty six. Okay, maybe a little bit of curveball people that whoa so TJ yelled in. The third running back drafted there at thirty six, damn one, Dave Calwell doing some stuff down there. A player we've been talking about, Damarius Randall off the board of the Giants. So second round guy. We we didn't mention him in the first round, but you know, somewhere in those top forty picks, good chance he comes

off the board, he goes to the Giants. So that's two defensive backs we don't we didn't really want to see in this division. But yeah, Byron Byron Jones and the Baron's Randall. But you know, it is what it is. There Now we're about twenty picks into the second round. All the backs are available except Girly Gordon and yelled and do we think about moving up here? We feel good about sitting at sixty. Wait, see who falls to us? Where? What? What pick number are we on? Right now? We are

we're about twenty picks in, so say we're around fifty. Yeah, so a movie ten. I'm sitting. I'm sitting. I'm sitting because I've named a bunch of guys. I'm sorry I lost Yeldon. That would have been one of my considerations. But now I'm kind of thinking Duke Johnson A g I A. I'm thinking, yeah, exact. Yeah. I feel we're gonna lose Coleman and we're twenty. I have a feeling

we're gonna lose that somebody, somebody we like will be there. Though. Okay, just as you say that, let's rock Coleman fifty four to Detroit. Yeah, so he's gone. Sorry, Brian, Okay, well that that takes my guy out of play. He's not a cowboy, Brian, Okay, you feel about that. I'm you know what, I've still got a draft here. I can't cry. I'll cry after the draft, is what I'll do. But Okay, that means that means, that means that Duke john And

still still on the boarder. Right and here we are, we're at fifty nine, we're at sixty okay, Duke Johnson a mere Abdula Jagie and just a quickly, you know, we talked about running backs. Just some other guys. We've talked about. Devin Smith, the wide receiver from the House State off the board, Daniel Hunter, he went to Carolina a few picks before we did want Yes, so Danell Hunters off the board. R Eli Harold, he just went.

Trey Flowers is available, Paul Dawson's available. But I think we feel good about running back here, like we've just been talking about, just for argument's sake, just because I'm sure there are people listening thinking about this. Um some more pass rusher? I mean, is there DIGGI zooa still a possibility? He has gone? He went gone Saints earlier in the second round. What about um, how is there anybody else we're forgetting Mario Edwards? Maybe? Uh, Mario Edwards

went earlier. All right, I'm the falcon. This makes it easy because that's I mean, if you're not taking a running back here, then you would prefer it to be a pass rusher, right right, They're all gone and it's really not even a conversation. But you're talking about me, and I think We've all talked about Frank Clark. Yeah, I kind of got a Frank, but I gotta I've lost my third round pick. This started exactly, this started at at fifth round. And now you're talking about taking

him at sixty. No, no, no, I'm talking about defensive. I mean, okay, would you take him at sixty? I'm talking about taking it. I would rather have Frank Clark than make than Odigi and those guys. That's what i'm you would take Frank Clark at sixty? Though on my board I have him in the third round. Would would you take him at sixty? You know what I would? Okay, I would, I would, But I'll tell you what it was your chest. No, No, because I'm thinking exactly because

I want Duke Johnson Moore. Okay, should I say that I want Duke Johnson at sixty? Okay, Jagi, he's still on the board. Now. We talked about me the bone on bone. No, this is a great Okay, I'm just all right. You're you're the draft master. I didn't mean to interrupt. Go ahead, No, I would you say it? He's a top forty player. Here's the thing it is, But our doctors are scared we could take these reports

are not not favorable. Yeah, I would. You could ignore running back here if you hadn't given up that third. I would feel fine taking a GI at ninety one. To be totally honest, I last that long. I think that that's an option i'd still take. Well it's not now, though, I would take Clark at ninety one over a GI myself. Yeah, he's he's gonna be a super If they draft this kid, you were actually gonna hug him, I might. Yeah, all right, let's go on, we get it all right, Well, it's

all right, we're on the clock. Yeah, pick sixty. We're out of time. No, we wrote Duke Johnson down before we started this conversation. Black will to turn it in were Johnson? All ye, Duke Johnson six, We got Johnson. I feel Johnson and Johnson first two vergo. I feel john Jets would be happy with that, both acc players. Yeah, I feel freaking fantastic if that's what happens on Thursday and Friday. Okay, Now, the problem is we're gonna be

sitting here at ninety one without a pick. You're done. Yeah. The rest of the second day is kind of boring for us. Well, it can't be any more boring than when they were done picking fifteen minutes into the round on Friday last year. Yeah, I'm with you on let's do it quick before we get to the third day pick ninety one that we had Cincinnati Bengals, they owned

that pick. Yeah, going forward, they picked Senquez Golson the corner out of oldness in size corp A not a bad player, didn't beat LSU though they be looking at it. Cedric abouohe and Senquez Golson or Kevin Johnson, that's what the deal comes out, well plus the sixth rounder. Yeah, I feel I feel good about Johnson. I do too. Kevin Johnson is at worst the third corner on this step chart right away, worst maybe better. And Duke Johnson is at worst the number two running back on this

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Dame Brugler, David Hellman, Ken Garrison joining you here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We have so far. We've made a deal to trade up to get Kevin Johnson, the very talented cornerback from wake Force. We're happy about that. Brian brought us, just did cart wheels down the hallway with Duke Johnson. Felt good about that. I think a GYE would have been a consideration. Gie. It's it's the bone on bone stuff and it's hard, and I hope he has a heck of a career. It's so productive.

But once again, who we Bouhe went to Cincinnati at twenty seven and then they also took sent in quiz goals this corner. So yeah, the guy that we really didn't like there. Yeah, we didn't like that spot. So I think that tells the corner might have been wiped out at that point. Yeah, so that that looks like to me a very good deal. Okay, we sat out the third round. We're now back into the fourth round.

Eight three is about to start and we have five picks. Okay, we have fourth, the fifth six that we picked up in that trade the Bengals, right, and then two seven. Okay, so let's go see if we can do some good Dane right with fourth round getting started, Um, let's point out some players still available. Frank Clark, he is still on the board. He did not go the third Calm down. Jordan Hicks, the linebacker round of Texas grey Flowers slipped to the third round somehow like him. Never mind, he

just went off the board. So he's gone. Um, so we're picking. Let's see what pick are we in the fourth? We are one seven, so that's twenty eighth pick in the first or in the fourth. Let's move along here in the fourth and all right, wait a minute, do we need to think about doing something here? I'm getting a little worried now about start losing some guys, do we Let let's talk about trading off for Clark, because here we are. Let's look at this. You know, we're

up in the middle of the fourth round. He's still available. Let's look up. So if we trade all right, that's six that we got from the Bengals. What if we package that with our fourth one? Uh seven? All right, to go up? Say, let's look at what Kansas City at one eighteen. Okay, so we're trying to get to Kansas City at one eighteen days spots. Help me on the math here at Kansas City at eighteen we're talking fourth round, right, fifty eight points? Fifty eight points, our

pick is worth forty five. That's thirteen points. I can do bath bathic aristhmetic they I just did that, but not in English. No, So at thirteen point to we're trying and offer. You said we had that sixth since from Cincinnati one ninety seven, one ninety seven. That gets it done on the spot right there, it's thirteen points. So yeah, that's is that perfect? So you're gonna go grab your gun runner, all right? So this is the criminal round. I don't want to wait. This is the

criminal round. I'm getting a little you know what. And I said this on the Draft show before we all talk about this. I'm a little aggressive when it comes to you. Are you are aggress If I've been in Dane just want to sit in the cut? Well, you guys like picks. I understand that. But if I could just flip a sixth round pick, did I obtained in a trade to go and get a guy as money? Yeah? You know what? I will say not I don't. I hate giving away top one hundred picks. But when you're

talking like, I mean, what are the odds? One are the odds that you're really hitting with your sixth round pick? I mean, who? Who the god Brady at one nine nine? Who the last two? They didn't have a six round pick last year? No? No, Tom Brady? Right, all right, that's I'm just saying, But who's who who they draft last year and the sixth that they didn't have a six it's but yeah, the guy they took in the

six two years ago is not playing football. You're absolutely right, You're absolutely I just I want to take an aggressive approach. If I went ahead and got something for somebody to make a trade, I'm going in. That's I mean, I feel fine with it. When you're talking about day three, that doesn't bother. I'm trying to think of the teams between me and Kansas City right now, and just let's let's look Saint Louis right now, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Arizona, Carolina,

Baltimore again, San Francisco. Do not feel great about Frank Clark making it through there? If you're going if that's if that's who we're going to get. Yeah, Francisco, I'm in if If I don't even I don't, I mean, all right, let's talk about is there anything else that we need? Though? I mean, I want to get that defensive ends? If if we're doing this deal, we're doing it. We're doing it for Clark. Is there anybody else that we need to be thinking about? Trey Flowers came off

the board, Jordan Hicks came off the board. I think we're looking defense here, linebacker. It's got to be defense seven. How about like a would Perryman be in the situation here? You went off the board in the third round. Oh okay, that's so he's not an option. What about where's my where's my defensive end ranking? Here? Who else we got here? Well? Nudist roaches? We don't. We talked about him potentially, Jared potentially. I want the defensive end I'm going to get. I

don't worry about those tackles. I'm going to get me. I think I could grab a tackle later in this draft. I'm gonna I'm gonna go for a Clark here right, Well, here, here's the other thing have we done? We've done our homework. We feel good about the character. We feel good about going up and get getting a player that is not clean. There's some missues there. Ryan loves the guy. I mean, we feel we feel okay with all the work we've done. I also feel good about the talent. Yeah, I know you,

no question. I feel good about that guy screaming off the edge and sacking whoever plays quarterback at Philadelphia. Okay, that's who I feel good about. Do it. Let's go up and get him. Okay, all right, we're gonna make that deal. We're giving up one twenty seven and one ninety seven. I just want you to I just want to point out to you how happy I am right

now when the live ammunition is flying this weekend. You have completely jinxd this like Clark is not going to happen now because you've been that Adam into a mock draft. I'm just saying you could. You could have tucked him away in your back pocket, you know, and kept you know. I'm great, you know. To be honest, I'm grateful the fact he's in the fourth round, but I think the character stuff makes it possible. I've been watching him, watched him since the third round. He was gonna be my

pick at ninety one. Is this is do we think this is realistic? That he's what's the character problem? But I mean, you love him enough that you'll take him at ninety one. I don't we know that somebody else? That's me, But how do we know somebody else doesn't feel that he's He think he's a fringe top one hundred guy. Maybe he goes top one hundred, Maybe he doesn't that character stuff. There might only be six teams

in the league that would take a chance on this guy. Yeah, you know who knows he could be off every other board. So I'm looking stupid by going and getting him right now? Okay, but I'm going to get my player. It's not impossible six, It's not implausible that he could be there at one eighteen or even one twenty seven. I think it's definitely possible. But I think I'll be surprised if he lasts passed, and I think we are surprised to see him there.

That's why we're going to get him. You know what I told you, cats, I've been watching him since ninety one. I mean I was that was why No. No. Ninety one was my pick. You can adopt him when he moves to I think we feel a lot better getting him getting him here at one eight, so much happier getting him mac here than at ninety one. Scarity draft. All right, Frank Clark's remember of the Dallas Cowboys. So let's uh, you want me to go to the press conference? Yes,

I want you to meet me. You're his agent, right, I want you to meet him at the front door with his jersey. And I know there's some issues there, but I love the ability. Okay, that's me right there. All right, let's let's fast forward through here. Um, we're gonna go to the fifth round. Yeah, let's just uh, for the sake of timing and everything, Well, we'll do no more trades. We'll just look. We have three picks left the fifth two sevens. I lost that sixth round

or so, no more trades. We'll just we'll look at the fifth round pick and then two sevenths. So with the fifth round pick one sixty three top options available. We have some defensive tackles Gave right out of Auburn. I like him, Linebacker big ten Jake Ryan at a Michigan, Damian Wilson Minnesota like Damian Wilson a lot from Minnesota. But if we look towards offense, maybe time Montgomery still available. Stanford a player that maybe not so much offense but

special teams. Uh, we've talked a lot about him, maybe you know, feeling that role that that we need from. Uh. Lucien Harris? Yes, Harris? What are you looking at? What's it looked like at tackle? What's it look like at quarterback? Tackle? Let's see here? Tackle? You're probably you're my offensive tackle. You're probably it's wiped out a little bit. We've got guys. Uh, I got some seventh round guys, I mean six seventh round guys. We might need to think about all Myris

Tyres Thompsons available. Andrew danelle M Danelsa Iowa. Yes, Joy Robinson, Uh, let's see who else. Lawrence Gibson a player we like, still there, but so Laurds Gibson, that's name. Let's let's hold off on him. Let's let's uh. I gave him a p F A grade, but I think he is gonna get drafted. I grated him better than this. I grated him better. I really, I mean, you look at

our three picks. I really like it. On paper, But when you're talking about trading and stuff, you're thought you're getting into the sixth round late in the draft, and I mean this team needs a swing tackle. Yeah, so that's definitely the downside. I think you got to keep that in mind though. I mean, Chaz Green has always been my guy. If the draft, stay, if you if you stay where you are. It's the words chalk, right, chalk, chalk chalk you do that if you chalk this draft?

Fourth round? Uh, Chaz Green would have been my kind of guy, maybe even a third round guy, maybe ninety one. If Chaz Green was still on the board, I'd be all. I'd be all with you there. Yeah. And if he's not in this scenario in the fifth, yeah, Chad's greenforth them for the injuries. I'd probably take him in a second. Yeah, he's that good of a player. Yeah, but no, he's Chad's Green's off the board. I don't like our tackle options here. I keep going back to Montgomery. I've been

hard on Montgomery he throughout this process. Yeah, but in the fifth round, in the late fifth round, I'm looking at my draft board right now here that I've got and I've got Montgomery in the fifth So I have absolutely no issues at all if someone like yourself, Dane steps up on the table and says, if you can give me a guy that could be kind of a mismatched player tossing the balls or running back, be a punt returner, be a kick returner, put him some stuff

on the outside of the wide receiver. Let me ask let me ask you this, And I don't have a problem with it if that's where we end up going. But I mean, all right, your top three eight receivers, Sat des Terrence Beasley. He's not gonna beat those guys out. No, no, no, no. You feel that confident about him as a returner and a special teams guy that he's gonna be a Day one. He's a forty six. You're not worried that he won't win this job. I forgot about Street two by the way,

streets there, and yeah, and that's a receiver. That's a guy that you took in the fifth round last year. So you don't want this guy jumping him either. So really, I mean, I'm thinking Montgomery needs to be a hell of a gunner and a hell of a returner if you're gonna take it. I think he is, and I think he's a guy that you take for special teams and anything he gives you on offense and year one is a bonus. Yeah see, I got the kid, the Whitehead kid down in the seventh round, the lucky Whitehead

Florida Atlanta. Excuse me? Is that type of guy if you had to go Montgomery to me? I got him on my board in the fifth. I mean that's kind of where I see. I'm just I'm not gonna feel good if like Cole Beasley beats this dude out for I don't think he will. I think that I think that this is a pick. I think this is a pick that the special team's coach would be too banging on the table. I've been I think we've been tough on time Montgomery. But to get him in the fifth

I think that's good value. Yeah, Okay, Time Montgomerys are picked. All right, good, So we've gone let's see here, we lost that six round pick for Clark. So what pick number was that hundred sixty three in the fifth round? Yeah, for a time Montgomery. So we we take a round off in the six, we go to the seventh. We have two picks here now see now we were we were off in the draft anyway. We didn't have a six round pick, right right, the day started, right, so we used a six round pick to gil back in

and get a player we wanted. So good use of not having a pick. Dane did a nice job of getting us a pick so we can play, continue to play in the draft. Okay, so we uh, we have two thirty six and two forty three so far, we have a cornerback, a running back, a defensive end, wide receiver, special teams player. So we've gone defense offense, defense, offense. Let's go back to defense. Let's see, uh, you know, linebackers we have left available? Ben Heeny Kansas, Bryce Hager Baylor. Uh,

some defensive tackles. Xavier Williams Northern Iowa. Here's a name, Central Michigan's Litterious Walton, a player I think more of a fifth sixth round player. Right, he's still on the board here in the seventh A guy that fell through the through the cracks a little bit Chippawa like that fit you know. I we we addressed the front seven with with Frank Clark. Walton would give us a little more of an interior presence, A guy that I think he play knows with the one. He could play three

if you want him too. He has versatility. He does have some versatility. I see where you're going in and I'm very surprised that he's still available at this point in the draft. And I'm kind of looking down at my board. I had him in the fifth round on my board, So that kind of tells you a little bit about what we think about the player. And I like the versatility part of it too, and I think

that's really important. And this is a guy that can rush the passer, that supportant from that inside spot you want to disruptive up the field. Guy Walton is that guy. Tape is good on him for that twenty Yeah, I mean, big guy that can. Yeah, he wasn't overly productive divin college. But you you're liking what we're staying here. You don't have to sell me on defensive tack like they don't seem to think defensive tackle is a problem. But I

would like to add another body to that. I mean, you got Crawford, McLean and Hayden, and that doesn't strike a whole lot of fear in any place. Well, I think they'd like to upgrade, upgrade h a man brain did hey Nick Hayde. Yeah, too many names in my head, but yeah, I think they would like to upgrade Hayden with a more athletic guy. Yeah. It kind of goes back to like if you stay there, picked Carl Davis. You know, it's more of a guy. I mean that type of a guy. We think. We think this guy

is a lot better than Ken Bishop or Davon Coleman. Yeah. I think so I gets an upgrade, and I think he has workable traits, a guy that you feel good developing. And I think he would work really well with with Marion Nelly. So, I mean Nick Hayden, he was a six round pick, you know, right. I mean I think this Walton could be a similar type of mold where

he developed into a maybe a possible starter. Yeah, I my notes, I just went, I'm sorry, pulled him up late here, I say, always going forward, you know, kick gets a push up the field. We'll close on the play field redirect for a big man. We'll try and spin himself free. Hard man to block on the move, chase to play short stepper, I mean short stepper, little little baby steps there, tough at the point, quick arm over move, always active, always stays moving, six five three

nineteen pounds. You know I'm looking for trades man. LT. Walton is a guy, Dane. Let's turn that card in. Walton is our pick at let's see two thirty six. So good, Wow, shooting down two forty three. Our final pick executive of the years here on this board. We didn't draft Zach Martin. We're not gonna get that one. Keeney and Hagar just went off the board. So those two linebackers are off. Are we looking what are we looking at here? I'll tell you what. Dave brought up

a point about that tackle. Yeah, that swing tackle. Absolutely, that's something that we could look at. And we talked about Lawrence Gibson earlier. He's still on the board. Corey Robinson, South Carolina, He's still on the board. I don't like Corey Robinson athletically. I have a real problem with him. Say there's a reason he's still on the board, right, Yeah, I agree with Terry Poole out of San Diego State. He's still around. Um, it's a few other players, but

I keep coming back to Gibson Virginia Tech. Now, this is a player I graded as a priority free agent. But I think I understold him a little bit. I think you got him poor. I mean I don't think you got him right. No, I mean personally I agree. I think there's what the hell well, there's more upside there than I think I gave him credit for initially. I think you see, you see the foot quick news, you see the lower body coordination. He can shuffle and square.

I worry about his eyes. They're all over the place. I don't disagree. You see more spurts than consistency with right. But those spurts are are are pretty uh pretty excellent. So I think that this late in the draft. Yeah, you're talking about good values. I valuated him against Ohio State, Virginia, North Carolina in Miami. He's playing good competition. The thing that I thought about him, that was the best trade about him. He's gonna keep the feat, He's gonna keep

his man block. He's gonna fight to keep his man block. I think, you know you gotta have a guy that when he comes off. I mean, Dane's absolutely right. I think he lacks a little, looking at the notes, a little upper body power to hold him in place, plays a little over extended, but he could do you know, he Dane talked about the eyes. I saw some things though where he did play some switch with you know man, you know, taking man and then being able to do that.

Staying with the blocks again, I said, was a good thing, making the cutoff blocks. That's something in the scheme you gotta be able to do. You gotta be able to get outside. Look at the measurables six six, three H five five O four and the forty that tells you this is not a slow footed player. Over thirty five inch arms. Yeah, I mean so a well built kid.

A few things that you know. He played right tackle and left talk of Virginia Tech right but only really one year as the full time starter this past year, So I think that's that's a little bit of a concern, the fact that he's already twenty four years old, an older guy. Yeah, but again at this point in the seventh round, I think we feel pretty good about it. I'd last line of that. I wouldn't say he has great body control, but you don't see him on the ground.

So that's important to talking about an offensive tackle. How awesome would it feel if you were an offensive tackle prospect, and you got to hang out in the room with Tiring and Doug Free and know that like there's I mean, nobody's expecting you to do anything but like learn stuff at least a year. But that's what I'm saying, though. The swing tackle is going to be important. Yeah, sure if the draft. If the draft stays chalk, you know, if you keep all you know and they don't trade

and they don't, I mean yeah, and you're right. I mean, you know Doug Free was hurt last year. You want a guy who can do special teams and jumbo and stuff like that, right, you need it better if Jeremy Parnell, you do. And hey, Jeremy Parnell made a lot of money, but there's some faults with Jeremy Parnell. I know, seventh round might not be ideal for picking if this If the draft stays chalk and nothing crazy happens, which I

don't think that's not going to happen. But I'm fine taking a tackle in the first two days bother me at all. I think we addressed going through this draft. I think we addressed other than the linebacker spot. Yep. I think we addressed everything that we need and I'm sure there's some listeners and viewers who would say safety too. Yeah. Well, Randy, we lost Randall in the second round waiting for Duke Johnson.

I'm not I just I know how badly a lot of Cowboys fans if I'm with you on that, Okay, So yeah, I mean for the most part, Gibson was our pick there. So that that that finishes our drafts. We uh, we have six players. So we started the draft a seven draft picks right, ended up getting six players, right. But we feel good about that. We feel good about the six players we got. That's fine. We didn't. Yeah, we went up and we got a player that I love. I know you guys are a little questionable on that.

But but going up and getting Johnson I think was a very smart thing. It was a small move. It wasn't a massive run to the top, like you know, giving up a you know, big picks. You gave up enough to go get a guy. It's the second best cool drive down on the stadium, pro shop and get a Duke Johnson jersey, like right away, well, I think we all look'll get you and like, what what do you wear? Xcel Triple? I'm a big fat guy, wear medium.

You hate giving up that ninety first pick. At the end of the day, let's be honest, like, let's not overvalue it. You know you hate giving it up, hate it, but it's a ninety first pick. It's not a top ninety player. If if you're given up, I mean, like I said, I know, I mean in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't sound like a lot, but I feel way better dealing ninety one seventy. Yeah, I hated

giving up. You had to do that to get the deal. Hey, okay, we promised you that we were going to give you an opportunity to comment on the draft. Those that have listened to the draft as we've gone along, your thoughts, things you've done, different, things you've done again, We're always We're doing fine. Just your quick thoughts on it and it will take as many of these we can so can't. For the last ten minutes, I am going to turn this show over to you and you get us, get

us on the path. Great. We have Johnny in Salt Lake City. Johnny, we're doing great. What's your question? How are you doing? Guys? That was a pleasure to be on the air. M I kind of wanted to flip the scrip a little bit of change the subject a little bit. But I'm gonna ask you right now. They're

in the offseason program workouts. Um, I don't know if you guys had a chance to walk around the weight room where they're lifting or anything like that, but have you guys noticed a difference in the program that they've changed over the last two years, because I noticed, you know, we used to have a bunch of it injuries a couple of years ago, and last year it seemed to

be a pretty good one. Besides, but I wanted to know if you guys had to take on if they change on everything, or if they changed anything at all. I'd got to listen to you guys. Static stretch it is a really interesting point. I mean, they had something like fifteen hamstring injuries in twenty thirteen, and winning games helps that maybe one. I don't really remember any hamstring injuries, that quad injuries. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's same same strength, coach,

same everything. And now we get we get brief glimpses of the weight room and stuff, but it's not like they're letting us inspect the exercises. Static stretch stuff like that. Yeah, Yeah, that's it. Anthony and Virginia. Anthony were doing great. What's your question, hey, guys, I just wanted to get your thoughts and Shack Thompson and how he compares to Anthony Barr coming out last year. All right, thanks, I think that to me, Jack Thompson, different different player, different totally

different players. More more shasier than yeah Bar, not saying is jasier, but more on those lines. If you asked me to compare a Bar to somebody, I'd compare him to Fowler. If you want to play Fowlers, a stand up guy, I would stake Fowlers a better rusher than than Barr was at you slay last year. That that

would be the comparison I used. Yeah, with Shot Thompson, you have a very athletic player, versatile, a player that I think could be in a consideration a late first round if your board gets wiped out, but probably a second round player. Yeah, all right. Kip Peyton in Minnesota. Peyton, you're on the Draft show. Hey, guys. I know the Cowboys like the linebackers a lot, especially Kendricks, but we're starting to hear reports about Bernard. Bernard McKinney at the

Mississippi States. I want to hear, uh, listen to you guys see if you think the Cowboys might take them or take him. And also, Dane, you haven't ranked ninety first on your board, and Bruce you haven't ranked twenty eighth. Yep, So I want to know why there's a big discrepancy you had. Like, listen to you guys debate about that. Thank you? All right? You have twenty eighth? Yeah, I do, and I'll tell you. I'll tell you the debates. I like the fact that I think that you can use

him as a defensive end. I think that's that's his best place. I think that, you know, I don't like him in coverage. I think that I like he's got size to him. I like the size. I do. I went back and watched him some point of attack stuff. I like the physical side of that. I've watched this. I watched him play with a big, mic linebacker, and it's convinced me that that might be the route to go.

But I do feel like though, that you could put his hand in the dirt and allow him to get up the field, and I think that's where he needs to go. And I think you know he's right about McKinney being in play for for the Cowboys dealing questions. I think you look at you look at Jack Thompson, Eric Kendricks and been Arderic McKinney. Those are the three linebackers you have to have your eye on as possibilities for Dallas. But with McKinney, I just don't trust him

in space. It gets down to that. Well, I didn't. It was about the coverage part of it, the coverage aspect of it. I wasn't, like I said, I was thinking about two down player and then potentially as a rusher. Though that I'm saying, the physical line I valued after watching in McClain play in this scheme playing as a physical mic lineback. So you you play McKinney at Mike and have him rush on like in Nickel's situation, he could.

I think that would be that would be interesting. Yeah, you'd have to have a specific plan for him like that, I think, and I think they do. I think they do, because take him at twenty seven if you've got him ranked twenty eighth, I mean we always I mean you would take him, Yeah, I would take I would absolutely. I would say Where is he among your other linebackers you see above Kendricks and yeah, above the see I think that to me, Shack would be in my mind

of the three, would be of the three. He's the better of the cover guys. I think Kendricks is the better of the run tackle guys. And I think that that that McKinney is the physical point of attack guy. Yeah, I think him the stefense. They're learning that you can't just play with small If you're gonna play small guys up front, you better have somebody in the middle that's got some size to him. No, I don't think you're wrong. And McKinney's gonna go somewhere and probably at mid ear

the mid second round. Yeah, I mean he's gonna go closer to twenty eight than he is the ninety one, right, But I'm okay with it because I just don't trust him in space, and so that's why he's a big knocks as a cover linebacker. You're absolutely right. But I'm seeing him has put the hand on the ground, and if I was thinking of him like you were, I would defensive I would agree. I would totally agree with you. And so I think, yeah, if you have a specific plan for him, then yeah, he does move up a

little bit. All right, can't we got more calling him in West Virginia. William, you are on the Draft show. All right, thanks taking my call. Appreciate it. Um. Well, we enjoyed Joe's coverage show. I really liked we all did this this year. My thing is I would prefer to trade it for a pass rusher. And my question is could they trade it for bud Dupree because I might like to see him, get him or the kid from Uva. Okay, appreciate you guys, keep doing great work.

Thank you. Thanks so. The thing with me and this, I mean you can apply the pass rusher thing to the Todd Gurley thing. In my opinion, it's just that, all right, where do you have to go to get a guy? You know, get the guy that you really think is going to make a difference, whether that's bud Dupree, whether that's Eli Harold, whether that's Frandy Gregory. I mean, how are up do you feel comfortable trading? I think I could see bud Dupree going to the Saints at thirteen.

That's and that's exactly what I could see him off the board at eight. That's exactly My point is that you're I mean, I think you're talking about having to make a pretty considerable trade. We made a small move, that guy exactly, a very small move to do that the floor for Dupree. I, in my opinions, Houston at sixteen, I do not think you'll get past sixteen, okay? And is that a trade that you're willing to make going up? Well, we told you it was a two to five, yeah,

because we talked about going to get Girly. And I'm just Dupree is a nice player, but he's not. Okay, if Bud Dupree got to the point where it was twenty one and we had to make the small trade, I'm interested in the small trade. Yes, I'm interested in the small trade. Do you remember, like three weeks ago when he was like big gestures or no gestures at all? Like no, no, no, we said that a month ago and you said we were crazy. No, No, I'm interested in certain players. I don't know I would go but

I would go huge for Girly. You just said you'd go up for Girling only about I would go huge to get Girly. I don't know if I would go huge to go get bud Dupree. Let me put it this way, how huge? How highway? Who do you like? I think? But I think you're gonna have to get somewhere between. I think he's gonna fall at thirteen. That's what I just told you as a prospect. De Marcus Lawrence or bud Dupree. De Marcus lords agree and that and that's why in this draft, in this draft, to

Marcus lawds would be a first round player. Easily agree, Easily, We can't. Well, he was almost a first round player last year. I mean he was two picks away. I I and you can never predict what's gonna happen. So I'm not sitting here saying that's how it's gonna play. But in my mind, when I'm thinking about this draft, I have almost just written off the possibility of a pass rusher in the first round because I don't like the value unless you're making a big trade, Yeah, I don't.

I don't like the like, who's gonna be there at twenty seven that you feel good about if bud Dupree is still sitting there in the low twenties or I'm I know, I'm forgetting somebody I wouldn't trade for Randy Gregory. Maybe they would if he's falling. I asked you about that. I don't like him. I just I don't trust them, and I certainly don't trust the fact that he weighs two hundred and thirty pounds. Did you trade it for

if Beasley will be wake on right? Beasley? Probably if one of if one of those guys is you know, if the Eagles pass on him and he's sitting there at twenty one, twenty two, I'm listening, okay, but other but I don't think they will. And that's why I haven't really thought about it. I can't last call. Yeah, Brian in Vegas, Brian, you have the last word before the NFL Draft? What you got last? The question I have is two quick questions. I'll hear it out quick. Um,

how do you feel pleaseeel a better player? Uh, Jimmy Ward and Marius Randall? And how much would it reach of a reach will it be to take to Marius Random at twenty seven assuming your wife out at corner? And my last question is would you trade your fourth round pick in the next year's draft to the Titans for I was his name? Mettenburger assuming that, Yeah, they take um Mariota from Mariola. Okay, thanks, good question. I like we talked about outside the box loving. I like that,

love it. Jimmy Ward and za Marius Randall, they're very comparable. I think that's that's the comparison that, Yeah, two cover guys. I like Jimmy Ward a lot better, I mean, and I like Randall. Um. I gave him a third round grade. He's probably gonna go somewhere the early second, maybe even the late first. You never know. I like the player, but I just think twenty seven's too early for him. And I talked to him last week. He told me the team that has shown the most interest in him,

you were Dallas Cowboys. So something you have to watch at sixty gotta be worth for that sixty. Fine. And we had this conversation in the office earlier this week. Do you you think Randall beats out Wilcox or Church? You think he's a starting safety. I think it's certain packages when they play single high. Yeah. I think it's it's find a way to keep Church down. I want to spend my first round pick on a certain packages guy.

I want to spend my first round. Well, but you're really it's really talking about a second round guy again, Well, he said twenty seven if you got you got eighteen names on your board, first round names you Oh, you're saying twenty seven is technically a second round pick. Yeah, I mean that's true. Yeah, I don't. I just I have never loved I would rather have Duke Johnson Randall myself figuring. Yeah, that's why we did what we did on the track about the Mettenburger thing. I just I

don't know that. I still don't know that Tennessee would want to get rid of them because you're what, I mean, who else do they even have at quarterback? Let me tell you. Let me tell you this though last year I had an idea of how they had Mettenberger on the board. Yeah, they wouldn't do that. They don't like them. There's there's lots of mistake because Metburger is gonna beat Mary L's you ls you all right, the draft is here. Now I'm excited. I want to do another hour to

be honest, Right, Well, you get to do that. Hey, we're gonna come on tomorrow. Can't tell me if I'm right, We're gonna be on at six forty five. Right, yeah, Coverage starts at six forty five, will be on the entire first round YEA, the entire Friday, and the entire Saturday. So yes here so you will have the casts of thousands, Dame Brugler, a nation of millions cast, Bill Jones, Dane Brugler, h David Hellman, Nick, I mean we're gonna have everybody.

Everybody's gonna come through here. We're gonna have the cabbage, Well, have war room cam on, We're gonna have analysis picks, turn it on. Listen to us, guys, We're watched these players. Those guys at the networks and stuff, they haven't watched all the players. This group has watched all the players.

So for my buddies here at my scouts, Dame Burglar, David Hellman, can't Garrison, Brian Brous thanks so much for joining us in the seventh round mock draft, and we will see you tomorrow at six forty five