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Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner, David Hellman, and myself Kyle Yeoman's guys, it's been a crazy week, not only because of outside factors but also just overall with the moves and the shaking and the free agency kind of switches up the way that you think about this draft a little bit, doesn't it. Well, free agency hasn't started yet, you know. So I'm watching Gerald McCoy
tape right now while we'd record the draft show. That's just in case the Cowboys think about signing him at some point. That would be huge, Yeah, just to see what it would look like if maybe you added a player, which of course they have not. But yeah, actually free agency opens today, does it not? Yeah? So, I mean, I mean we all know it's bs. The legal tampering window opened on Monday morning, negotiating negotiating period. Tampering is illegal,
but it's no, it's legal tapering. That's really kind of a it's an oxymoron. Yeah, it's the word I'm looking for. Oxymoron. But, like Dave said, today is the official start of free agency. Four o'clock Eastern time, three o'clock Central is whenever that window opened. So you're over there looking at Gerald McCoy, apparently he agreed to terms reportedly with the Dallas Cowboys. What do you what do you see in over there? Jeff?
I see a guy that unfortunately is playing a lot of defensive end in a three man front, which is probably not fun for him, because I know that he can play the three technique. Uh. He was really good at the three technique for a while in Tampa Bay. Right, Yeah, No. I would say in theory, okay, if MALIEK. Collins were to sign somewhere else, like maybe with the Las Vegas Raiders, yeah them or wherever? Yeah? Where? And in theory, if Gerald McCoy signed with the Cowboys, I would say, even
if MALIEK. Collins is making more money, I think Gerald McCoy is a slightly better player today. It's just the difference of signing a what is Malik twenty six? The difference of twenty six year old and thirty two year old. Yeah, one of you gets paid a lot because they expect you to keep getting better, and one of you they're like, please don't get worse. So the guy who you're hoping please don't get worse, I think will be a slight
upgrade over which MALIEK. Collins. You're talking about a thirty two year old who at one point was dominant. Well, I was arguably the best d tackle in the league. I mean Gerald McCoy's peak was before Aaron Donald showed up. But even you know, seventy percent of what Gerald McCoy was sounds great to me for a team that obvious, and like, this is what we've been talking about for
two months. As you know that they're going to address things in free agency, know they're going to lose players in free agency, you know, like theoretically, you know, we thought Robert Quinn had a good chance to come back, but maybe he signs a deal that's worth maybe why he's as much as as what people expected, and maybe
he goes somewhere like Chicago. So this week is gonna end next week as well for that matter, but it's really going to shape out what we know about this roster because we were borderline clueless coming into the week and now we're only starting to put it together. Well, there were so many other moves that are maybe going to happen in terms of Maury Cooper, he's returning or supposedly returning. Byron Jones has agreed to terms to a five year, eighty two and a half million dollars deal
with the Dolphins. You talked about Quinn. Randall Cobb has moved on we'll talk about some replacements for Randall Cobb coming up in the third segment, but you also have a couple of signees. We talk about McCoy, you talk about Blake Jarwin, he has officially signed or resigned an extension, and then Jason Witten has agreed to terms to go to the Las Vegas Raiders at this moment, But where
does that leave the draft for the Cowboys? Because there has been a lot of shifting, a lot of shaking, and McCoy's not the number one answer in terms of the defensive line. You're gonna have to find some production to replace a guy like Robert Quinn to just basically put bodies up there. You talk about MALIEK Collins, who's already gone. You might have that replacement with McCoy in that specific standpoint, But where does this leave the draft
strategy for the Cowboys? Your need at cornerback is still there and glaring to me, you're needed on the defensive line is still there. Even if you hypothetically do add Gerald McCoy, whether it's defensive tackle or a defensive end, you still need to address that You're still gonna need
a safety at some point. The need at wide receiver, I think is the one that elevates a little more than maybe it did in the last couple of months when we've been talking about it, and every time Jeff would bring up a wide receiver in the first round and we'd go, let's go, we gotta go defense. Now we go ill you know what, let's go passing on Jerry Judy might be a kind of foolish if that's therefore, you know things like that. So I know we'll talk
wide receivers in the third segment. But I do think the way things have shaped out over the last couple days, if these signing or these agree agreements there you come to light. If they do come to light that I do think the position that's kind of elevated itself and made itself more likely is wide receiver. But it's not a huge difference in what you need it. Anyways, you're still gonna need to add a cornerback. I actually I disagree.
Oh can we go, Dave? Go get him, Dave. I'm not doing this because I went to Louisiana State University. You probably no, I'm not. But is it your son? Can we talk about Calevan Chase on we can't because all right, we all four of us were smart man. We can read writing on the wall. We've known Byron Jones was going to be gone yea for the majority of this draft process. But didn't it stop me from being a really right, you're gonna beat that drum and
you're entitled to do it. That's totally fine. Point being is Byron Jones is likely out the door and has likely been out the door for a long time. Maybe you saw Robert Quinn coming, maybe you weren't completely blindsided by it, but I thought there was at least a chance that they managed to bring him back. I thought there was. And so now right end looks real, Dicey and I have the names pulled up right here. You know, the Cowboys aren't going to sign Jadeveon Clowney. Let's let's
be real. Everson Griffin's hanging out out there. And then it's like not a super inspiring list, And so all of a sudden edge rusher to me is I know a guy who could play right defensive end. Oh is he technically employed by the Cowboys but has a murky Yeah, we're just really talking about a bunch of hypothetical stuff. All I'm saying is that you know, once upon a time there were certain things that would get to where you couldn't play NFL football, and those certain things no
longer stop you from playing NFL football. I were a guy we're talking about a Randy Gregory right now. Wow, I wasn't talking about anybody. I'm just saying, if you're hypothetically yeah, I just put the name on. If I were a guy who currently was suspended, but the reason I've been suspended many times is no longer a reason people get suspended. I'm saying I would probably file for reinstatement and expect to play football the next year. So maybe they have a right defensive end and they just
need some depth. If Klevan Chason is there at seventeen, do you let your hope for Randy Gregory dissuade you from that pick. I'd pick the best player available. Who are the guys that you're not? Take Jerry Judy over Chase On? Who's who? If it was, I mean, let's get real hypothetical here and just say it's like Chase On and CJ. Henderson like that, Judy's gone, Judy's It's not a wide receiver. I can't imagine they're going to draft a receiver in the first round now that Amari
Cooper is hypothetically under contract for five years. Well, Henderson versus Chason is easy. You trade down one spot when you see who picks one of them and the other. No, you can't do that. If that doesn't work, you trade down one more spot until somebody picks. Tell me who you like? Of them are gone. I trust Henderson, okay, even more than Chas Chase on six and a half sacks in his best college season ever. He's Chase like.
I like the traits. Chason is an upside. It's got a huge c J. Henderson's got taped that says he could be a really, really really good NFL corner, and Chase on has glimpses where you're like, I think so see, I think I'm just all of I mean, you don't want to panic pick. I get that, but that could solve a lot of your problems with your pass rush if you I mean, if he even falls that far, which I don't think is going to happen. He's too athletic for a team to let him fall to seventeen.
This is why they do exercises and they stack him up, and well, I like to keep Ken Law on the mix. But you know, we'll see what happens there, no matter if Gerald McCoy is here or not. But if I've got a Henderson chase on all three of those wide receivers, who keep those guys in there? Right, Rugs, Judy from Alabama and also um Cede Lamb from Oklahoma, you're putting them on a board. Who how are you guys rinking those five guys? I only heard lam at the end,
so I'm sure he's at the three wide receivers. The three wide receivers Chase On and C J. Henderson and Law guys soon would be last. Henderson would be second to last in your three receivers up at the top. Yeah, the three receivers would be the Lamb is the top of the I'll be ahead of the wide receivers, Ken Law, maybe ahead of Rugs, but not ahead of Judy or CD. Okay, I think I would take I can't pass on Cede
Lamb if he's there, I can't do it. U Probably not Judy either, But I don't really believe one of them might be there. I don't think both of them will be I think one of the three will be there. And then overall, yeah, I don't know. I'm not I don't think so. I'm not drafting Rugs at seventeen. No, I would draft Lamb or Judy at seventeen. And then probably Cardinals might have helped you out there by getting DeAndre Hopkins. Absolutely might have just gone from receiver to
offensive tackle. Absolutely no, and they need to go out which I was really excited. If you another piece of the million things that have happened this week, the Colts theoretically traded for DeForest Buckner and they gave number thirteen to San Francisco, who doesn't need a wide receiver, but they they do need a defensive tackle though, so that's a roadblock the law. Are we pretending the forty nine
ers are stocked at receiver right now? Well, they got to the Super Bowl and they had a guy named Deebo Samuel that was one of their best pieces. Araniel Sanders is a free agent. Yeah, they're true, although Debo and one Dante pettis the then also they also have like no picks whatsoever. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't make that pick if they trade out, of which is smart. Absolutely always trade down. Maybe they trade back to seventeen because the Cowboys have their eye on a
kin law law or a ace on or whatever. Yeah, forty hours will get created with pick thirteen and pick thirty one that they have now, right, Yeah, So like, I bet they I bet they get a target for Kyle Shanahan. I can't see them not adding a wide receiver one of those picks. I just if they keep those picks, I canna say after those two picks, like, I don't think they pick again until the fourth round, So I wouldn't be shocked they're not making both of
those picks. I just I have a hard time. You really think they're gonna make that trade though, and they're gonna get rid of DeForest Buckner and go up to thirteen and draft a guy that's a wide receiver and a wide receiver loaded class when you could get a game changer in the later rounds. I think they're going
up for somebody else if they stick and pick. I don't think they're going up for anybody, Like I don't think you just think that was a move, Yeah, yeah, that was pain Yeah Yeah, I think that was you give them twenty million dollars and we'll take a first
round pick and we'll take a pick. Figure it out and keep the winning window open and not get you know, he'll got a team in their division like the Rams who have gone all in on just bringing guys in and paying them, and they're sitting there panicking, going is our window closing? You know? The forty Niners, Like, let's keep this thing open. Yeah. I think John lynchend Calshanna have a pretty good plan in San Francisco. They on
their numbers last year. Their number two receiver right now would be Kendrick Bourne, So yeah, they could get at maybe pick a receiver now. Kind of going off of what Dave just said, let's let's get nuts with this. We're talking about you miss all segment feels it is forty pick at thirty four by the way too, so thirteen, thirty one and thirty four and they don't not get
until like the four. Okay, Yeah, they're good shape. So with that being said, if they wanted to pick up a couple picks from let's say a team that is currently at seventeen overall, like Dave said, facetiously, a little bit earlier, it wasn't facetious for the rect What player would have to fall to eleven or twelve in order to try and trade up and hope that he falls to thirteen? Only two of them exist that I would go up for. I want a seedee Lamb. No, no, no,
I'm not going up. Can't trade up for a receiver. No. I would only go up for Okuda and I would go up for Isaiah Simmons. Would I know way to get one of them to thirteen and I'll go up? Would you go up for Derek Brown? One in three Derek Brown? That's hypothetically Gerald McCoy and DeMarcus Lawrence starts
to feel pretty good. Yeah, but at the same and I don't mean to throw shade at Gerald McCoy, but I just think about which are Pairing him with DeMarcus Lawrence is one thing, but like, do defensive tackles affect the game enough to be worth that type of resource? And I know this team might be desperate for that because last year affect their defensive tackles didn't help their ends at all. But theoretical, but all theoretically, don't know for sure. But Gerald McCoy, who is good. He's had
five sacks for like seven straight years. He's a pretty good player. Could be in the fold to help you with that. I don't know if I'd go up for Derek Brown one, I no doubt I would go up and Simmons our top five players in the draft class. We're talking about going up to thirteen, right, Yes, if Derek Brown's at thirteen, you go get him. He's falling because of his test numbers? What's the most No, no, no, no, no, no no no. I don't think he's falling because of
his test numbers. Because he posted a video of him running a three cone at his training facility that was like seven and a half seconds instead of eight point two, which probably took him fifty times to run. And that's why you finally posted instead of running at prote But whatever, you're so mean, what's he falling for? Then? Because I think people are wondering what's a nose tackle? What's a
nose tackle worth? Even a great one? When Snax Harrison was highly paid, he was getting traded for fourth and fifth round picks, and he was the best nose tackle pole Worth. We've talked about offensive tackles. I mean, there's gonna be a couple of those that'll go in the top ten. Maybe another team stretches and takes an offensive tackle three, so there's three going in the top ten. You talk about the quarterbacks, offensive tackles are worth it.
Quarterbacks are worth was a nose tackle worth trading up for in the first round? What am I giving up to get there first? To go from seventeen to thirty third? Probably your third round pick at least. Yeah, if I mean, it's all up to the team boy that's tempting to get Derek Brown in there. Though I don't agree with you at all. I mean, and I get it. It's frustrating. I don't think the Cowboys value knows taxed enough or
haven't in the past. But I still don't want to trade up for I'm with Woods out there again this year guys no offense, But yeah, I'd love for that to happen. But what sis this with money? The draft is about value, Free agency is about need. I like your two and then and okay, again, this is not so much about my own evaluation, but it reminds me a lot of DeMarcus Lawrence. Actually, if any team, let alone the Cowboys, is convinced that Calvan Chason is the
only other difference making edge. That's the type of guy you trade up for, because I mean you have Chase Young and then Chason, and like, aren't those the only guys with like twitchy pro upside? I mean Ajpanessa and Yader grossmatosmatos? Do you think again? And I know you don't love Chason, but do you think his upside seems as high to you? No? Not as a pure pass
right No. And if you're convinced that Chason is ascending, yeah, that is a guy that a team would absolutely trade up for if they were sold that he was that guy. I think they're just gonna be a guy that pops in this draft class as a pass rusher. It's just can you guess which one it is? Like between Ouchie at Michigan and o'kwarat Notre Dame and just run down your list of Curtis Weaver. There's gonna be a guys greener from Florida. I love him. Yeah, that's that's a
second round pipe dream for me, right, you know? So yeah, I know, But like it's like, who's gonna be this year's Max Crosby Er? You know we do this every year Neil Hunter. So that's why, like the Neil Hunter, that frame is what puts you onto guys like uh, Chase absolutely like hold on the guys who are six five six six two fifty Randy Gregory picture, Yeah, that plays, That plays, which is why I could see like, that's I don't think he's an option at seventeen realistically, but
with Robert Quinn probably no longer in the building. It's something you got to look at, and I don't think you're replacing that in free agency with the guys that are available. We'll see what happens with Randy Gregory. It's worth pointing out, but I can't count on it. I don't want to write the idea of Chase on at seventeen off only because the NFL surprises us sometimes. We all watched Cleland Farrell, the Clemson to five who announced
how you say his last name? After he was drafted, after we called him Farrell for years, and when you watched him on tape going to the year, people were talking about him as a top ten pick. But when you watched him on tape, you're like, oh, it's a
second round guy. Solid, and the writers were like, oh, top five pick, yeah, well somebody do that with well Epanessa sneaking in the top fifteen because somebody is just like, yeah, that's our guy, will like there's gonna be names in the first round that we go, oh wow, really yeah, where did that come from? That's gonna happen now? Okay. Kind of with that being said, it seems like lost
in the shuffle has been the safety position. We've talked about corner because Byron Jones left, We've talked about defensive tackle in that defensive end because there are there's an obvious need there for the Cowboys, but safety's kind of gone to the wayside, even though Jeff Heath has reportedly agreed to a deal with the Las Vegas Raiders over the past twenty four hours. So now where does that
put safety on your board? Seventeen or later. Darian Thompson theoretically supposedly back with the Cowboys, so that put that int honestly think they would roll that out. Wow, Darion Thompson, Xavier Wood and you go look at some of Darien Thompson snap counts last year. I can't go. Man, when he was healthy he played, I could see them I can't do it much. I can't say I'd be surprised. Donovan Wilson had a great preseason where we're making some progress,
you know. It's it's interesting though, like sorry, I mean, I was saying, these leopards don't really change their stripes too much. Spots, Ye, they have spots too. They're different. There's the cant differences. These are different leopards though, these aren't the same kind of I mean, I know it's it's well, it's the same king leopard, but a lot of well, it's still of the cat family. Don't don't you feel God, we are so off the rails right now.
This is awesome, don't you feel like? I mean again, nothing is finalized, but the fact that the Cowboys are even showing interest in Gerald McCoy to me the signals that things are at least slightly different than they were. But they've liked three techniques over the years. It's the one technique in the safety position, Like those are the things that you're having to pull them and go please, yeah, please drive one of these. Oh maybe on day three we find a guy we like and we will. It's like,
it's very interesting. I just when when Darry and Thompson if that ends up you know, happening, you know, as free agency begins in the next you know, a few days. Um to me, I justed immediately went dude, he played a lot when Jeff Heath was big last year. They trusted him to play as it was Darry and Thompson, Xavier Woods back there a lot less. Completely agree with you that there's I can't rule out the possibility that
they roll that out. But safety, to me is interesting because we so we it's it's crazy, you know, we did the draft show last week. Yeah, and we kind of hypothesize, like, man, maybe this COVID nineteen thing is gonna affect things like we didn't even we didn't even come close to hitting on like how much was going to be affected. And that's in a week. We could
still change from here on out. That's another thing. I specifically, I think about Grant Delpit all the time because I said, you know, Grant Delpit didn't work out at the combine. He's kind of a forgotten man. He's gonna go to LSU's pro day and light it up and everybody's gonna be talking about him as a top as a first round pick again, he's not going to have that chance anymore, probably, And that's I've actually I've talked to people on the scouting side who were like, this is going to mess
with stuff more than you can understand. People. Yeah, I mean any number of prospects. Guys aren't coming into facilities like so instead spending like two days with a guy getting to know his personality, letting him wow you in the meeting room and get on the whiteboard and all that good stuff, Like you're gonna have like a twenty minute skype session with a guy. Yeah, And if you don't have numbers to stand on by now, you're probably not going to get a chance to post new ones.
And I think there's gonna be more guestimating going on with NFL scouting departments with this draft than since like the eighties probably, which could be make more like Jeff was seeing earlier, huh picks you yeah early in the draft. Also free agency too, Like hypothetically, wouldn't you want to let's see if we get Jadeveon Clowney in here, at least give him a physical right, like you'd love to do that hypothetically, but like, yeah, not really able to
do that right now. It's it's affecting all of it, which I even you know, not to get too deep in the weeds with coronavirus, but like you know, NBA players continue to test positive for it, and you know, knock on wood, I'm not trying to like speculate too much, but what if a guy who's about sign a major contract has COVID nineteen you know what I mean, Like, it's it's just wild thing. Think there's gonna be a lot of people that have it and don't know they
have it absolutely and what does that do? I mean, man, we could go real deep on that. So I'll refrain from anything. But I feel like this is going to last a little longer than we thought it was going to. Yeah, it's not a definite thing that the draft even happens. Yeah at the end of April, right, and the draft could be pushed back. It's the NFL has done a good job of keeping things on track and being a really good distraction. Yeah, through all this, but like, well,
I'm not convinced the draft even happened. There's not going to be saying the public aspects not going to happen. We're not going to get to see Joe Burrow ride a boat across the Belaggio Fountain, which is really the point. Disappointing. Um, but yeah, I mean, is it going to be a conference call? Is it going to be a tele conference? Are they gonna skype the draft? Nothing's gonna surprise anymore. You kind of threw out a couple of ideas there.
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Com Draft Show. Welcome back into the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, presented by Miller, Like Jeff Capitol, Kevin Turner, Dave Hellman, and myself Kyle Yeoman's let's go to some Twitter on the twenty Twitter on like that, shout out at Kale, shout out Brian brought us absolutely always and forever Now thoughts and prayers. First questions. JD on Twitter said, they say the draft is going to a non public event and they will think of an quote unquote innovative
way to do it. If you were in control, guys, how would you make the event more enjoyable as a non public event. Do you have my real answer or my fun answer? That's a great let's do both fun answer. I want your fun answer. My fun answer is live animals and a will and you spin it and that's what the team, that's what player your team gets. That's all right. At first, the Cincinnati BEng will spend the will of all So you're just going to completely change
the complexion of the draft. It said more to go to Georgia Kicker. That's where the wheel ended the question. All I can do is answer the question asked. That's the question that was asked. Answer. I thought there's would be something really cool there. All right, I'll take the rest of the answer off. What if they did it like the voice and like all the teams sit in chairs and face away from the process, two chairs just
read off his stat line. Yeah, he walks out, Yeah, and the person hit the button and like you think it's Joe Burrow, but you hit it and it's actually like Jacob Eeson. You're like everybody's just sitting there waiting to hear sixteen and a half sexam. Now, I would like to see the front offices fight over the guy once they both press the button yes, and then they just fight back and forth. I think that would be intritated, Oh yeah, physically, or you could you're talking about spinning animals,
so I could spin the players. The animals are just there. It's it's gonna be interesting if they're not allowed to do it publicly with you know, no more than like twenty thirty people in the room, but they still want to televise it. You're not gonna have like they're not gonna have eighty, you know, thirty players sitting in a green room. No. I don't think this is hard though, and I don't think it really affects it at all. People are gonna watch, however, many analysts are gonna have
on the TV, which you don't need the TV. All you need is to listen to us during the draft. But if you have to watch on TV, they could have analysts that are in different locations put onto a screen and then they could have the board behind them and you could have another camera with whoever's announcing the picks. Like I don't, I don't think this is a big deal for the draft other than the preparation part of the draft. Agree, I mean, that's the big one is
how it's going to affect how they prepare. But like it's the NFL, they're gonna try to find a way to make it over the top and entertaining, Like they're not just gonna let the teams sit in their war rooms and phone in their picks like they need the MLB draft, Yeah, from the work, They're going to have
to be a visual component to this. Yeah, please the TV audience well, And kind of going back to even the way that they've done it in the past, how big of a role have the fans actually been in the draft process up until maybe the last five years, Because in the past it was just in New York, it was in a theater. You had fans in a
dark lit room way back in the back. But then now that they've started moving the draft of these different cities, you have those fans start showing up, like in Nashville and Philadelphia and Dallas of course, who hosted it back in twenty eighteen. There are these different aspects to having these fans in the building. But before that it really wasn't the fans weren't the main attraction. The picks are always going to be that main attraction. Why do you try to push the draft back a month just to
try to see if things slow down? I think it's still keep it in Vegas or do the same thing that you're going to do anyway, Well, that's will want you to push it back. I think the time is they're going to reach a time when they realize, oh wow, we do want to see two a throw. Oh I do want to do my thirty visits. Oh, I do like there's a lot of parts of this process that
are getting skipped. Yeah. I think teams will be asking the NFL, hey, if it looks like this is going to wind down at all and we can find ways to get our visits in and get workouts in and get more medicals in, can we do that? It just feels like it might be too soon to say. I mean, think of him. I mean a week ago you could have told me restaurants we're gonna be closed. A week ago, we were only just starting to grasp the severity of this. And I'm not a medical expert, but it doesn't sound
like it's gonna be done anytime soon. So yeah, I don't know. Revisit that topic in a couple of weeks. Yeah, I agree, with you. I'm not one hundred percent convinced that it'll happen on the regularly scheduled weekend. Okay, So our next question here on Twitter on the twenty actually comes from all the way out in California. Mike Crumb asked, does McCoy signing with the Cowboys affect the comp pics next season? Can they target that or wouldn't it likely
affect those compics like Byron and Quinn. So that's a fun it's a fun thing to keep in mind when you're watching what the Cowboys do is it doesn't affect a comp pic formula when a player has been released, right, But McCoy was on a one year deal. He's a regular old free agent. So yes, bottom line, when they sign him, or if they sign him, you know, we'll see what the money looks like, we'll see the guarantees, it will probably affect that formula. But here's the good news.
I promise MALIEK. Collins is going to get more than Gerald McCoy gets. Yeah, so at worst you can wash out that compic. Yeah, I'm still looking at Byron Jones and Robert Quinn and Randall Cobb. I do I do? I don't know about Cobb because well, I mean, I'll probably get you at least a fifth like Beasley did last year, and Byron will get you a third, and
Quinn will be a three or a four. And if they were to sign McCoy, we think that would probably be like so that would probably take away like your fifth, probably it would take away your MALIEK. Collins one that we don't even have considered yet. But this size of the Byron and Quinn deals is I mean those Gerald McCoy is not going to wash that out. And honestly, I saw what you said on Twitter yesterday, Jeff, I would be surprised if the Cowboys do a supersizeable deal
one because they don't do that anyway. But two, they don't want to mess with those picks. What about Jeff Heath as well? Are you going to get one for him? They're projecting currently on over the cap that both Witten and Heath will get you sixth round picks. Apparently four million dollar deals can get you. But also you got to keep an eye on those because the Cowboys have to bring players into their team. For sure, they will
easily wash them. They will probably wash those out just over the course of the next few weeks by just doing routine business or sign Desmond Trufon or something really hard. If I fum the Cowboys, I would try really hard to bring in guys that were released trade late round. Trufon was released, Max Harrison was Harrison was released, Lynval Joseph was released, Leonard Floyd, Floyd was released, Jenkins Jerry on the record said that he liked him. Yeah, that
Peter King articles from twenty sixteen. I don't Brandon Carr. They just said that his option wasn't picked up, so I that counsel's releasing him, so they'll fill it out. They always party a little bit late in free agency too. We've seen that I'm keeping my eyes on guys who were released from old contracts because that doesn't affect your comp Okay, our next question has to do with still free agency, but keeping it with the twenty twenty draft.
And I like this guy's name, the Landlorian. He says which non Cowboys free agent signing will have the largest effect on the Cowboys first round pick, and which move will have the largest effect on the draft overall, talking about free agency in general, and then also specifically, what could affect the Cowboys. We talked about Buckner and the Colts a little bit earlier. With the forty nine ers now picking at thirteen, the Hopkins trade, that one might
be the one for me. Hopkins trade is the big one because you're seeing a lot of I mean, it's mock draft, so who knows, but you're seeing a ton of Ceedee lambed Arizona talk. And now I think you're to see nothing but Jedrick Wills, Tristan Wirfs, McKay Beckton. I think you're just going to see the left tackles going to Arizona. So I think DeAndre Hopkins is that's that's number one? Right? Yeah, I think so. And I think also, I mean they're in front of the Cowboys.
The Bucks pick at fourteen. Yeah, and if it does become official that they end up signing Tom Brady, that's another team that doesn't need a quarterback. So it could potentially be a situation where maybe one of those quarterbacks, Jordan Love most likely maybe doesn't get to seventeen. Its very possible. I do think all four quarterbacks will probably go before seventeen, but it's possible. So also that could
come into play. Indianapolis was a hot spot for a quarterback as well, in which they could still do that. Philip Rivers is only supposedly signed to a one year deal, but it seems a little less likely now that their first pick, first round pick, is gone. Yeah, so oh well, yeah, yet are young for a little half baked idea real quick, just real quick. Matt Stafford to the Patriots the Lions draft two at three? Didn't we establish that like trading half baked? But I liked it, didn't wet. I'm pretty
sure we established like trading Stafford would absolutely cripple their cap. Yeah, most hit to not have him on the off and that would ruin my Cam Newton to New England plan. Also, yeah, New England. It's not happening. Is Bill hated Tom because Tom was an old man that couldn't move anymore. And he's like, man, the NFL, you gotta be able to move. Lamar Jackson just killed us. So he's gonna be like, oh wait, can I get Cam for like a fourth
round pick? Fifth round pick? Sweep? Actually, I'll do you one better, which so I love the idea, but it's not the Patriots having fun. It's not the Patriots style to pay that price anyway. Sure, what they're gonna do is wait for the Panthers to cut Cam when nobody wants to trade a lot for an injured old quarterback and then sign him to a very favorable deal because players want to play for Bill Belichick or Jared Stidham is going to win the whole thing. Yeah, that's Josh Rosen.
I kind of want to go back to kind of just sticking with this question, but going back to Tom Brady and the Buccaneers talk. Of course, with them being up in front of the Cowboys, they need offensive tackle help and corner help. So is there a chance that maybe some of those better offensive tackles go off the board early? You we talked about a Beckton, we talked about a Worths, and maybe and Andrew Thomas from Georgia. There's three guys that, maybe four guys that go in
the top dozen picks in terms of offensive tackles. Is it possible that CJ. Henderson doesn't even make it to seventeen because the Buccaneers may pick them up there? Oh? Sure, absolutely. The minute c J. Henderson ran a four three nine, I started to think, oh yeah, absolutely, I mean, when a guy that size can run like and obviously the tape is more important, but when you show you have that straight line speed at the one position where straight
line speed is very, very important, it makes sense. It makes a ton of sense. I wouldn't bank on him being there at all. The Bucks at fourteen could use a cornerback. Ye, the Broncos at fifteen could use a cornerback with Chris Harris not being there anymore. That's another free agent move that could affect how the Cowboys draft. Oh kind of look cornerbacks of premium position. So that's why I think that's the round sliding thing is becoming more of a realistic type of thing. I'm talking they're
talking about earlier. So I believe he'll slide. I just don't know that I'm willing to give away a premium pick to go get him. I want a team to get drunk and go draft running back in the top sixteen picks. That's what I'm looking Oh, that's what I'm looking for, Jandre Swift. That would be mile practice. I mean, there's there's a guy in Houston name Bill O'Brien. Great point, like, there's really good running backs in this draft, but nobody's even gonna talk about him in the top half of
the first round because the world learned that quickly. They're like, don't do that. Well, it's not only okay to be fair though, Like there's just there's not a running back deserving of that type of pick. Oh, they're all the same, that's that's not sat. Quon Barkley is not a much better football player than DeAndre Swift. Here be you're I think you're being you're exaggerating to fit your bit right now. I don't do bits, Yes you do. I don't do bits.
Count sixteen just cut their running back. Now that tells you, hey, they needed to save some cat money, or be maybe they don't value the running back as much. Or see, hey we're at sixteen, we can get the first running back in the draft, and we'll just pay him wait less than we're gonna put pay Devonte Freeman. Wouldn't that be just thrown out ideas to try to make things
look a little better for the tables at seventeen. I understand and agree with the philosophy that, like running back is the most easily replaceable position in football, But if there was a running back worth taking in the top sixteen this year, we'd be talking about him. There just isn't one. There's just not one here like Todd Gurley
when fully healthy, is worth where he was drafted. I want you to remember that three years from now, when it'll be one of these guys, it's all no idea which one and depend where they go and how much that team wants to run the ball. But one of these guys will be considered the best running back in football. And I feel like one of the one of one of the guys picked this year will be considered the
best running back in football in three years. The fact thing think about winning out a specific guy, though, I think, goes to the point of that it doesn't matter. That it doesn't matter. I get that who's the best running back in football right now? Probably Barkley, because common perception has been over the over the past two or three years that it's been Zeke, it's been Barkley, It's now Henry, it was McCaffrey, it was Levan Bell, it's tons of them, I mean, and Nick Chubb will be if they start
winning games. Nick Chub will get attention for being one of the best. Most of those guys were really highly drafted, just saying, and they get the ball three hundred times a year, so they end up with thirteen hundred yards and we say they're awesome. Well, it's it's the second contract that spooks everybody, right, And that is a separate argument, Like it's if a guy is special, he's worth drafting
in the first round. It's the second contract that should scare worth draft in the first round if he holds out it for three years. Point is, there's not a consensus number one running back in this draft. There's not a consensus point of the is not a running back that anybody agrees is worth the first round? There has been in the past, Yeah, Zach, clearly, Right, Barkley, It's not because the position doesn't fully matter. It's just that this is not the best crop of running backs. Let's
go ahead and go back to defense though. Question table at me two questions here from Seth Hall. What are some names of edge players that would be drafted for traits later in the draft, so potentially day three, we can maybe even bump that up the day two if we want to. And do you see a double dip at cornerback where the Cowboys maybe try and address some of that secondary need with multiple picks here in twenty twenty.
Alex Highsmith of Charlotte is a good edge player. I think you could say he may be a three four type because he's got a little bit of a lean frame. You got something for those Conference USA defensive players, right, small school guys that go dominant. But Ladarius Hamilton from Texas or North Texas for an edge guy. You know, I look as much as I support the main green and you know that I do. You do Confort US Basketball champs. By the way, I don't know if Ladarius
hamleybe maybe seventh round. You know, we have to be a late round or maybe even a signy guy. Yeah, and everything's traits. There another name I don't know, like I think Daryl Taylor from Tennessee. I think he might slide into the third round just because there is gonna be people grasping for pass rushers of some sort um. Jonathan Garvin's got a little upside too from Miami. I
think he's a guy who's kind of interesting. But man, I tell you, it it does dry up very quickly at edge this year after the first two first two days, So I mean, look, there's always gonna be sleepers that you kind of come across. But I haven't been wowed by a ton of guys on those you know, Day three guys. Usually you find find guys at each position that you kind of make your guy man at edge rusher.
It hasn't been that way. I'm absolutely terrified of drafting edge rushers outside like the top one hundred or so picks. To be honest with you, like, there's always gonna be there's gonna be surprises, Like, you know, Max Crosby's a guy we can talk about. That was a fourth round pick who looks really promising. But by and large, the guys who can bend and get to the corner at the NFL level like that is such a valuable trait that those guys go early. Even if you got polished.
Here you go, guys. I just wanted to pull up my combined sheet and find the guys who run better than a seven second three cone that ran a good forty, and those are your sleepers. So Jason Strowbridge, man, that's not a sleeper to me. Wrong, Nope, he was a seven four five Nope, Nope, You're sleeper is Derek TUSCA at North Dakota State. We'll take it. Our guy went sub seven there in the three cone. And let me see if there's anyone else in this group. That's my
only sleeper. Yeah, there's not. There's not only you know what Trevis Gibson from from Tulsa as a player that I think is kind of interesting. He had eight sacks last year. He's from Cedar Hill. He's a guy who you know, you see a little bit of just speed, you know, that's just kind of looking for at some point. I mean, the US the run stopping defensive ends aren't fun, you know, but they are needed in the league, and that's what you're gonna kind of usually get on day three.
But as far as the guy who could turn into a sad guy, Travis Gibson from Tulsa, who was a Senior Bowl guy. He's a guy who's a little interesting, probably around four round five type of guy. I've got another Senior Bowl guy for you. How about DJ Wandham from South Carolina. I'm not nuts about want him on tape. In fact, I've got a grade on him. Let me see it in my gray hairs on him. But kind of while you're finding that Curtis Weaver in a seven
flat three cone. Yea jem, seriously, yeah you do? Damn, I was talking about this forty yard again, that's probably know that's probably a third round maybe third Yeah you really though? Okay, But back to Wanham. Wandham has a four seven forty and then also he had a seven point two five two cone, so he's had good numbers, solid numbers for an edge guy. Vertical of thirty four and a half inches, broad jump of one twenty three.
You tested really well with the combine, looked pretty good at the Senior Bowl as what as well, Maybe he inches his way up into the fourth round. My problem with him is just getting blown off the ball when it if you're gonna run the bowl right at him, which like, hey, we're talking about upside you know, pass rush type guys. In fact, DJ want him. They played Alabama and he beat Jedrick Wills a couple of times.
I mean like he got around him. He didn't finish the job, but he got around Jeddrick Wills, who maybe the first offensive tackle taking in this draft. But you don't see him finished very often, and you definitely don't see the play strength you see the speed, you do not see the play strength, and that's that's kind of bothersome, you know. But what what were we talking about her? I'm talking about round five, round six, the trade. You're there,
DJ want him right there? Yeah, absolutely, question, that's the question. Round five, Absolutely exactly, so real quick yes or no, double different corner. I would love it. I mean, I beat his name into the ground. I'm a big fan of Dane Jackson. Pittsburgh looked great at the Senior Bowl, um sticky. I like his tenacity. I mean, I mean, he's a Day three cornerback, so I keep taking him in the box. You have a good senior boy. I picked you in the fifth rap as well because it's
the one. I mean, obviously you can watch all the tape you want when you get to go to Mobile and go against some of the best players, and yeah, I mean the receivers in Mobile were fantastic. So for him to play as well as he did against some of those guys was really impressive to me. It's hard, it's hard to say, but yeah, I mean I could absolutely see a first and fifth, second and fourth type of deal. It depends on what they do in free agency, but you gotta fix the secondary somehow and to be
a broken record. But two of them a pet Katy pet kat, Mammy House, Louisiana Tech guy, Louisiana Tech and meet Robertson. We're gonna find out five four, Well maybe maybe teams are Maybe teams aren't going to find out how healthy he is. That's a fast nine. Oh sorry, but hey, if that's not for your taste, can I interest you in Reggie Robinson of Tulsa. I like these Tulsa guys a little bit. Reggie robs I've got third
round grade one. He's a top one hundred player. Now you're kind of starting to see draft Twitter kind of yeah, Oh well, Reggie watched the Jgie Robinson tape. Oh no, Retchie Robinson tape has been good all along. He's exciting and he's really good. I know he got hurt and he's not declaring. Thyland Wallace, the wide receiver from Oklahoma State, he shut him down. Yeah, and that was very excellent. Tyland Wallace would have been one of those guys if he came out that was in the mix, top ten,
top twelve wide receiver in the draft. Reggie Robinson is a name not to sleep on. I would draft him as high ast pick eighty one, eighty two, Yeah, third round pick, whatever it is. I would draft him that high. But I do think because of the small school thing, because he's a little lanky, because he doesn't like to play the run too much. I think you're going to see him full to day three and I would love him at fourth round value. Reggie Robinson and a Meek
Robertson from Louisiana Tech. There's some good cornerbacks on day three to keep your keep your eye on. I like it, Jeff, Yes, or no double dip of corners corner there we go. Okay, So that'll do it for Twitter. On the twenty when we come back, I've got five potential draftees that will replace Randall Cobb. We'll see who likes which pick and where in the NFL draft when we return here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show presented by Miller
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got a little bit of a spot to phil. I remember the first show of this season, Jeff Cavanaugh said, I'm convinced Randall Cobb's coming back because of Mike McCarthy's press conference. Didn't know about Bill O'Brien. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wasn't as informed as I needed to be about Bill O'Brien. Didn't O'Brien. It is absolutely not our fault. I mean, I think the world of Randall Cobb as a guy, and he's a great player. Randall Cobb himself, I think probably did a double take when
he saw the offer. Oh He's like, I just had a one year old, five million dollars deal and I'm a year older and I'm getting double that for three okay, double triple, well nine million a year. Well yeah, but he's getting eighteen guaranteed. Okay, yeah, he's getting eighteen million guaranteed twenty seven million. I mean it sounds mean to say, like get your money, Randall, but like that's stunning to me.
Bills competent. I mean, I would have found leaking like what DeAndre Hopkins wanted in a contract to try to be like that's why we traded him. It's not because I'm really mean to him and made Aaron Hernandez comments. It's because he wanted eighteen to twenty million. The whole world's like, wait, that's what he's worth. That's that's what receivers gast receiver in the league right now potentially now, So sorry, I side in a world, in a world where Bill O'Brien is not running a football team, I
think would be back. Probably that's a very good point. But we have to replace him nonetheless, because he's not going to be wearing a star on the side of the helmet. I've got five guys in this draft, all from different parts of the draft that could be replacements
all right now. Up in the first round, I have Jalen Raiger of TCU, And the reason why I put him there is because I didn't want to be a coward and say either one of the three guys that could be there, Henry Ruggs from Alabama, Jerry Judy from Alabama, and Ceedee Lamb from Oklahoma. I don't want to bank on the fact that one of those three guys is going to be there. So I put Jalen Reagor because you're not gonna get Rigor at fifty one, I really
don't think so. Do you think he's worth seventeen potentially Yes, Okay, I think he's that good and I don't know, maybe we've had this conversation. I think this debate prior, but I think he could be good enough to be up at seventeen if that's where you're willing to take a guy. I've got kJ Hamler from Penn State in the second round. Lynn Bowden Junior out of Kentucky, guy who really reminds me of Randall Cobb when you watch his Randall Cobb told me himself in November, he was like, he's the
best Kentucky football player ever. Wow. And I was like, that's that's high praise coming from one of the best Kentucky football players ever, even though like the best because of the situation just in Jenna, I mean because he moved to quarterback, even to quarterback and like didn't miss a beat. Like the offense was insane. It's little yeah, because he's not a wide receiver, he's a high school quarterback. But at the same time, Limboden Junior also just kind
of a Swiss Army nine. If he's he's very reliable, much like Randall Cob. And then I have Devin DuVernay as an early day three guy. That's a little bit of a stretch for me to say he's early day three. I think he could go as high as the third round, but he could fall to the fourth. And if he's there, then I'll say that maybe he was the guy that was left off of this long list of wide receivers and then late day three of James Prochet out of SMU.
Which guy out of these five do you guys like the most in terms of the Cowboys replacing Randall cop I like the best player the most. I'll take Gregor. But we're combining a play at the position, right, Yeah, because I think this is obviously an awesome segment idea. Yeah, the exact same thing. Did you on a YouTube? Oh did you really check that? Uh? No, no, no, because I think that's no. It's the thing that makes the most sense right now, is it does? Where in the draft?
And which name do you like? And amongst those ones, I would probably say Hamler in the second yeah, or I would have guessed you'd be out on Hamdler. I like Hammler. I just I have other names I want to throw in there. kJ Hill at Ohio State didn't have a good combine, but he's still up there. Get a bad combine, and I would still take him in the third, and I'd love him in the four. I was going to throw out Hill for the same reason is if you can get him at one twenty three,
I mean, I think you could plug and play kJ Hill. Honestly, the reason I like Hammler is just because he's the only one of that group, maybe DuVernay to some extent where you can say, Okay, Mary Cooper's a bigger threat, and Michael Gallup's a bigger threat, but you still have to know where is kJ Hammler because because if he don't subject the fact that he can run by you
at any moment, then your defense is in trouble. And I think adding that l it's like it's like what Will Fuller does for Houston, the splits for Deshaun Watson. When Will Fueler's on or off the field, the splits are much bigger than when DeAndre Hopkins was on or off the field, because teams have to respect that speed. You got to you have to be afraid of it.
And so Handler, I'm interested in a lot, maybe at fifty one, how good of a route runner is Handler compared to Devin DuVernay, because DuVernay is not your I don't think the runner. I don't think du Rene is a good route round. I don't think so either. I think he rounds it up a little bit, and I think he's a straight line guy. Yeah. And is Handler
a better route rounder though, Yeah. Handler is one of those guys that when you watch him on tape, if if it's one guy trying to stay in front of him, you can't like the acceleration, the speed, just the physical tools. They're different. Duverne is fast too, but he's going to run you over. He's not going to be able to really routch you up. He gets to it Texas because you get so many free releases where he can kind of stem a guy and then break and he can
do that. But in terms of lateral agility as a route runner, Handler's got it, and I don't think Duvernaid does. My big difference in those two guy to me, aside from the route running you're talking about, is that Dubnat catches everything that's thrown at him and hamdwar does not. Right hand, there's a little bit of a body catcher in the questions a small guy, and yeah, and there's a little bit of handware that makes you go, y'all are killing me, because this is why I didn't think
you were gonna talk like handler. Sorry, finish your finish your thought. Well. The Duberna brings a little more in terms of toughness, catching everything, some of those things. You know. The thing is kind of a mixture both of these guys kind of a mixture of what Randall Cop brought because Randall Cop had some drops in terms of the toughness and the attitude that you want and all that stuff, like Dubna's got that. So I just don't want to take the guy later. I don't want to draft a
really unpolished, fast guy. That's all that's fair in the second round. Yeah, in the fourth round, sure, because can I dangle John how high tower from Day three is when traits take over. But like with a top one hundred pick, I want a more polished product. That's why, like kJ Hill, I think he's the best slot route runner in the quest. I agree, he's not a good athlete.
He's not big, he's not super fast. He runs great routes and gets open from the slot and catches, and I think Lynn Bowden Junior is fascinating, and I think he's under the radar in this very crowded class for a couple of reasons. One and he's been dealing with an injury that's kept him from working out. And that I mean obviously now with all the quarantine, it's totally different. On top of that, there's not a lot of tape of him playing wide receiver in twenty nineteen, So it's
a problem. It's a problem, But like I'm I'm just willing to take a chance on his and just usefulness, like like Kyle called him a Swiss army knife. He played quarterback at Kentucky, did not stop their offense from being extremely effective. He was unbelievably reliable for the wild Kids. Got speed, he can carry the ball, he runs like a running back, he's got good vision. I'll at whatever, and he's the guy that's just better at sports than
all of us. Yes, Mike McCarthy talked about play whatever. One of the nineteen things. One of the nineteen clues we got that made us think Randall cop might be coming back was Mike McCarthy going on and on about how he liked to use Randall in the backfield and his quarterback experience made him useful for this and that and the other. It's a it's maybe it's a lazy comparison because they both went to Kentucky, But I don't think so. Like I think they're very similar players, you know.
And the thing is is I put him on this list, and I completely it escaped my mind whenever I was making it. That also Randall Cobb went to Kentucky because I was just looking for a guy to replace Randall Cobb. So as much as you could really say it's a lazy comparison, just because or there's very similar quarterbacks, can play in the slot, very athletic, good reliable, move out of the backfield, move all over the formation. I'd be ecstatic to draft that guy third round. I don't have
a good grasp on his range. Again, I'm thinking three through fifth, and I think I don't think he goes in the top two rounds for sure. No, I've I've had a scout tell me that he could be a second round pick. Yes, that's I mean with this, I know I would. I think if he's there in the third round, i'd be thrilled. But I yeah, I don't have a good grasp on it. But I think he's a great player. So, man, who did you wait, Katie, did you actually give a player? Did you say out
there John high Tower Tower? But of Boise State, someone who's not on your list, okay, just because they hate the boys state background. But he is a matchup guy. He's a mismatch guy. He's a speed guy. He's a guy who's gotta win earlier in the route because he's not very strong when he's going up. And you know, press coverage and things like that. But the jet sweep elements and things like that that McCarthy does like to use in his offense and Kellen does like to use
in his offense. He's very good at that. He's a guy you can hand the ball too, and things like that, so also return value. So high Tower is an interesting player. But again, I know I chose a guy who's not on your list. Right there, DuVernay to me, right there, I love kJ Hilbert. Dude, isn't his Rangelet doesn't it feel like his range is like right in between where the cowboy will be picking in the things you say that, I mean, it breaks my heart that we can't really
talk about justin Jefferson. But I don't not super realistic at seventeen, but definitely won't be there at fifty one. I'd love at fifty one. I don't want him at seventeen exactly. Um, I guess you can't rule out the possibility that they addressed this in free agency. I think our friend Jane Slater linking Emmanuel Sanders to the Cowboys this morning. We'll see, but so much since he's got, you know, bad knee. But if you could get him on the Randall Cob deal one million, one year, eight million,
depending on the size of the deal. But man, there's just so many good receivers to be had in this draft. But I mean signing sign Emmanuel Sanders or draft a free agent drafted wide receiver. I'd rather draft a guy, although if you could sign a veteran to a very friendly deal like they did with Randall Cobb, wouldn't necessarily stop you from drafting somebody either to both. Yeah, I do want them to fill the need before the draft.
I don't want you to go into a draft heating to find a slot you have to get a slot receiver. I think that would be a little bit silly, But That doesn't mean you have to go Emmanuel Sanders. There could be a lower level to it. If there's a position where you could plug and play, it's probably this thing. And I mean that's tricky because receivers so hard to adjust to and used a lot of late round picks and receivers and haven't haven't had anything. Noah Brown ain't
doing a whole lot. Cedric Wilson, No, you're not wrong. Tavon two could be Danny Cole. This is a little bit. I couldn't go back some mere Matt Johnson at safety. Remember that Matt Johnson. I remember got a pick in practice and then limped to the trainers same play, the most Matt Johnson thing of all time. Out from Matt Well, that is gonna do it here for the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show presented by Miller Lte. Did you think that that name was going to be the last
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