Draft Show: Does He Qualify?

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the only beer with the Cowboys. It's Miller time as it always is. Yeah, I love Miller. I know you do. But anyway, it's not I'm I'm wearing the free gear today. I'll say. Yeah. So we got Jerry Jones talking for the first time and forever, and there's lots of things he talked about. I'll skip some of them and just go with the football ones where Jerry basically said learning. Jerry basically said, yeah, we're taking an offensive lineman, so

get ready for that. But he did add the caveat unless there's a Ceedee Lamb slash Micah Parsons type, which is the way you're supposed to think about the draft.

So that's good. But I want to start this show with asking if a certain person qualifies as a Ceedee Lamb Micah Parsons type, because it's big on the internet now that Notre Dame safety Kyle Hamilton at his pro day, according to Dame Brugler, ran a four seven zero and a four seven four in the forty yard dash, and now it's become a thing where it's like, hey, that guy that was going to go in the top five and not anymore. Maybe it's more top ten, top fifteen.

Notre Dame's safety Kyle Hamilton, does he qualify as a Micah Parsons ceedee, lamb, holy cow, this fell in my lap and I have to take him kind of guy if he's available at twenty four. Bryan, you asked that question. No one, what I'm gonna say. I know what you're gonna say. Yeah, you know what though, four or five nine at the combine, right, we ran four or five nine at the combine, I believe. So I've got the sheets. Okay, I've got the sheets. Why are they not in front

of Why aren't they not in front of you? I know? But I can look him up real quick. But I want to talk about this real quick about him, and you know what I this is what I said about him, and I said, the rare height for the position. He's built like one of those old schools safety from back in my day. He did not run at the combine. Okay. He did not run the combine. Okay, Okay, So but I said this, I said, he was yeah, four or

five nine, okay. See, so that's where I'm kind of thinking. Okay, ran four seven at his pro day in South Bend. So I'm thinking, why would he run again four or five nine? Kind of a crazy thing unless he felt like that he could have gotten a four or five two or something like that. He's probably not going to get into four four eights or four or four fives

or something like that. But the thing about it is like I kind of felt like though that when I was watching a player, I was watching really a guy like a downhill player, a guy that's a wrap up tackler in the open field. I know they play him in the slot, and you and I got into discussion about that about him playing slot. I don't think he could play slot and all that kind of stuff, but they did play him there in Notre Dame. I mean, I think there's some things cover wise, and if you do,

you're right. If you watch the Cincinnati game, there are a couple of snaps where he got a little off balance and coverage and he was fortunate that that ball didn't go his way. But I do love his toughness. I do love his versatility. I love the sure tackling ability. And this guy was a captain there at Notre Dame. I mean, so, like, I think his best trait is his ability to tackle and so and you said it, and rightfully, so is this j Ron curse? You know? Is this that type of player? And you know, I

kind of felt like that if Jayron Curse. There's two players that we learned about last year. Jayron Curse can actually cover, which he never did, and Michael Parsons can rush the passer. Those are two things we learned last year. On dan Quinn's defense, I really like this kid. But I see your point about do you already have this player on your roster and you know you got him signed up for two years now. But to me, Kyle Hamilton still is a first round player because of the physicality,

the length and the size. And maybe that's because of my old school way of looking at these safeties. Yeah. So I admitted on the Draft Show like two months ago that I just had Kyle Hamilton as a placeholder in the first round because it wasn't going to matter because the entire world was like, hey, this guy's going in the top ten, and it was like, okay, cool, So I'll watch enough of him to have a general feel for him so I can talk about him, but

he won't matter to the Cowboys. And I just kind of kept saying, I'm sure the whole world is right. I didn't necessarily see the top ten player and Cincinnati was the first game that I watched, and I was just like, okay, I think there's plays where you go, oh yeah. I think one of them is he blitzes off the edge and he jumps and he bats the ball down it's like eleven feet in the air, and he's like, oh, okay, that's fun. You should be playing for the Mavericks or something. He's got He's got a

giant tackle radius. He looks like he runs well. But I do wonder if he's a duplicate of what's already like. He's a more it's weird trying to choose the right words, because he's a more explosive athlete than jay Ron Curse while not being able to outrun jay Ron Curse in a straight line. What's the one thing that we like about jay Ron Curse the most? Tackling and playing down around the line of screening. The guy missed three tackles

last year, three total. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, And so now I do think I think that's a player that, like Kyle Hamilton, whatever NFL team he goes to. Yeah, now this is one man's opinion. I think you have to have a plan because I think if he's playing deep safety, free safety, a deep path man in the slot, that he's toast. That's what I think about Kyle Hamilton's.

It could be wrong, but I see a dude that if he's lined up in the slot and it's like, hey, he's gonna cover that slot receiver, like, okay, well get the extra point blocked team ready because the slot fadees going six. Yeah, but but he can run around, chase the ball, blitz tackle. There's a lot of good things. I just wonder if now we're going to see enough teams that are going to be like, oh, well, you know which is weird because he knows faster at the combine,

which no one runs faster at the combine. You know what your one? I know, but you know what your answer is going to be. My answer is like, no, no, I'll tell you which you can safety, Dax Hill. I'm more comfortable with Dax Hill than I am with Kyle Hamilton's. I'll say this, Okay, what did the league tell you about Jayron Curse this year in free agency that they still weren't interested in him? Yeah, you got five million

dollars a year. It's funny then that everybody seems to be interested in Kyle Hamilton, but they weren't interested in Jayron Curse. If you think they're the same guy, yeah, and they weren't the same guy in college. And this is because we absolutely were We We thought that the Jron Curse didn't care, couldn't play. Yeah, yeah, we you know you, I mean maybe playing special teams for a half decade. Make sure, Hey, I heargot dan Quinn is

coming here. And at least, you know, you have to give dan Quinn and George Edwards and those guys in the defensive staff a lot of credit because they've figured out though they've they've figured out how to take certain players. And maybe you don't see the blitz ability, maybe don't see the coverability. Maybe you don't see a lot of things, and then all of a sudden they're doing them, and you're like, damn, Parsons did that? Okay, because I do I do believe in my heart that if Parsons was

just off ball linebacker, we'd be saying he's a good player. Yeah, But with thirteen sacks or so, you're quite going, Okay, this guy's a great player. This is defensive rookie of the year. This is maybe the defensive MVP. You know, these are the kinds of things that in scouting that you you know, I personally, I mean Hamilton. If you really, really really like Hamilton, if you really like him, you're gonna say that four or five nine is good enough

for you at at the combine. That's what you're gonna say. But if you want to, if you want to poke holes in him and put Dax. There's questions about Dax Hill too as a player. Maybe not maybe not as many as you know with the speed and stuff, but there's questions about him as a player. What are they? Would you like me to read my questions about Day? Yeah? Because I like he's um, I guess technically I have

questions about Dax Hill. Like I think, line up in the slott he plays on his heels too often, it ends up chasing. But like when you're talking about am I comfortable with him in the slot? Sure? Yeah? Am I comfortable with him? Deep? Sure? Down? Sure, I'm gonna talk myself into Kyle Hamilton not being my top safety is what I'm gonna do. Well, okay, let me well, now I'm gonna go watch more games. Well that thought

I don't have to. No, no, that thought. I just needed a thumbnail and I'd be good because he was gonna go in the top ten and I'd go, yeah, big safety, run tech, Yeah, if there's gonna be I mean, this is really starting to turn into weird because we're getting close to the end. And then you you know, I'll give example the kid Widermeyer from Texas A and M. Yeah. You can watch him play and you're like, going, well, hell,

he's you know, he's drafted. Yeah, third fourth round guy, right, you know you're looking at him, and then all of a sudden he runs five flat, You're oh god, he's undraftable. I think the things about Widemeyer people are gonna and Dallas is gonna bring Widemeyer in. I think the Whidemeyer's coming in because they want to know, like why do you not care? Why? Why do you Why is did you cut a foot off before you're in the well? No? Why is five flat good enough for you? Why is

a twenty five inch vertical good enough for you? You know, there's questions you now need to ask because in his case, like honestly, I wouldn't draft him, and like I was I was raised by you where it's like, look I do I'm a film person and I trust the tape. Yeah, but he's place I have to draw lines somewhere. And if you're not close to an NFL athlete, see, that's

when draft. That's what I'm saying. There's there's there's guys that aren't NFL athletes that I've been burned so many times by the I've been burned so many times by the weak offensive tackle. Yeah, that I you know, in matter of fact, I mean I watched a kid this morning. I watched the kid from from Wake Forest. Is that Tom? Yeah, yeah, Zach Tom. And I watched Zack Tom and I'm I'm going strong exactly good. No, No, Zach Tom is one of these guys. And you know what I compared him to.

I said, he's got some tarred steel trades to him and you're like, and then you're when you say that to somebody, that going what this guy, well, tarred steel was undraftable this But you know this, this Zach Tom. He's not strong, he's not big, he's not physical, he gets in the way. But I've been burned so many

times by the underside. David backtr I throw that name out there, a bunch that of guys that my guy from A Colton Miller from A from the Raiders is the other guy's soldier states soldier has kind of gone south a lot, but he had a long career. He had a long career, but he's played in Super Bowls and done well and all that. But there's a history

of these guys that aren't strong, aren't great athletes. Then all of a sudden, you look like a real jackass when you're like going, well, man, that guy, I would never take him. And I'm not saying you, I'm just saying media scout in general, when we get on that train, know the end end route. In week eleven or week twelve, Smiths could go, man, Colton Miller looked pretty good blocking old you know, uh blocking you know whoever you want to throw out there. So let's take the A and

M tight end. Because that's another thing about the Cowboys is looking at their thirty visit list and looking at other names, and there's a lot of tight ends on in here. Okay, this is another thing you need to think about real quick. If I could the thing with the thirty visits, somebody who's telling me like, oh, really, don't pay attention to the thirty visit things. Yeah, but and then I countered with, well, then stop drafting damn

players off a thirty visit things and in multiple different rounds. Yeah, you don't, because this is Jerry Stevens way of seeing the players, right, this is the way of putting him and you know, well, you know this is Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy now not going to owners meetings because he's going out scouting. But this Mike McCarthy can go see

players now. So to me, thirty visits. Don't tell me it's not important for the Cowboys because even okay, and even I agree with you obviously, because they just keep picking guys and everybody does. There's a reason. It's because you're interested in either the player or the position group where you're going to be picking, right, right, we know that two of the guys that they're visiting are receivers that are gonna go around number twenty four somewhere around there.

Sure you're interested in receiver in the first round. Yeah, they're visiting offensive lineman who are going to go around twenty four. Sure you're interested in receiver? And or offensive line at twenty four. Right done. I know already that there are at least two tight ends on your thirty visit list, and I ain't heard a peep about a Dalton Schultz long term deal. No, So I know that you're interested in picking a tight end. Yeah, probably somewhere

in the third or fourth round. Jerry admitted it yesterday. Jerry admitted it that you know he was looking for a tight end. I mean, you know, I don't see any attention at all of signing Dalton Schultz. This is this is one of those things like you can't lose Dalton Schultz. You can't lose a Maury Cooper all in one cycle. You have to at least have somebody there spread this out a little well. And you've got an injury too, you know. I mean Jerry's talking about when when,

when Gallup is coming back. I'm hopeful for that opening day. Okay, So you can get ready for a receiver in a tight end getting picked pretty early, Cowboy fan, because right now you're receiving core in week one would be Ceedee Lamb, James Washington, and Noah Brown. That's it. And I don't think you're taking the field that way. I don't believe that, not for a minute. Now, back to Widermeyer, Texas A

and M tight end. Maybe some of the world would have said third round, some would have said fourth, Maybe some would have said fifth, twenty five inch vertical, five second forty yard dash. As a trust the tape, crusty, did you move him at all? Where did you have him on tape? And do you still have him in the third round? Believe him? Haven't moved him. You won't even you wouldn't even pop somebody above him in the same round. You're just saying, Nope, he stays right there. Now.

I kind of feel like, to me though, that that unless somebody tells me something that when they visited with him, that he's a terrible human being, that he really doesn't care. I've been burned by that too, because you and I, You and I, and when we've done this now together for eight years, we only watched the tape. I'll never know if a guy. I will never I will never sit on tape. I will never know. Paxston Lynch. I

cheerleaded for Paxton Lynch. The Cowboys thought enough at Paxton Lynch they would have been dead ass wrong about that. Should have figured that out. It's the combine. It's like Scooby Doo up there. They did Shaggy Shaggy. He was looks gonna get picked by the Broncos. But see that's that's where that's where, you know, all of a sudden you start to learn about you know, guys that are

last in, first out. Yeah, you know. That's why I think that the thirty visit for Widemer is important because obviously they're hunting tied ends whether it's odd and at Washington, you know McBride from Colorado's they're hunting tied in Widemer. They're bringing him in to ask him that question. Are you allowed to make them exercise at the thirty visit? Could you just throw him a peers and be like, you're gonna run under five seconds and you're gonna jump

higher than twenty five inches. You're gonna do it. Now you're gonna feed him. You're gonna feed him, and he's probably gonna get slower and all that. But now the questions need to be asked. You know, there's a couple there could be a couple of sliders in this thing. Stingley, we talked about him the corner from LSU. Yeah. Now, okay, that guy comes sliding down to twenty four. I'm handing that card in too, and I'm not doing just because

the LSU, but I think I think the position is important. Okay, well, then I want to play a game with you. We're at twenty four. All of these guys can't be available, but just for fun, Yeah, Stingley slid down to twenty four. Yeah, Kyle Hamilton slid down to twenty four, and one of the guys you were kind of planning on picking, let's say Kenyan Green, Texas A and m offensive lineman is

at twenty four. See, okay, what you're doing for me personally, the way they would the way they would sit on my board would be Stingley, Hamilton Green, That's how they would sit on my board, and my stack would reflect that. Now for the Dallas Cowboys, you're dying for a guard right now. And Jerry Jones even told you he's dying for an offensive lineman. You know, you know it's funny. Jeffy, So I told you if Parsons or Lamb is there, Yeah, but he's He only also told you he would draft

a tackle. He told you that too. Now I don't know if this was just Jerry Jones Ramlin Rette guy, but I mean this was. He kind of gave me some hints on that. So I mean, oh the tackle. Okay, First of all, see you take Stingley, it takes you. Would you would say, my stack is my best player, my stack, My stack would reflect Stingley, Hamilton Green, That's would be my stack. Can you draw scenario where tackle

is offensive? Tackle is the pick? Because the only way I can draw it, because I'm fairly certain and we do do this every year and sometimes we end up being way wrong and somebody's there you don't expect. But I think that Evan neil Ikey Kwanu, that's Alabama and NC State, Charles Cross, Trevor Penning. I think all of

them are gone in the top twenty. See. That's the thing about it is, so if they pick a tackle, in my mind, I will be reaching and I'd be like no, no, no, no, no no. I wouldn't pick Raymond, right, I wouldn't pick him. I would have I would choose. I would choose Green, Hamilton, any I would choose anybody over Raymond would in that scenario would be my fourth guy. Now, they might like him a lot better than you and I do. Yeah, but I don't. I don't. I don't

have him. I mean, he's my fifth tackle, but I don't have him. As if there were others on the board of my stack, I kind of think I would go that route. They love them some position flex and I wonder if that gives Kenyan Green an advantage, Like if the team thinks he can play tackle, sure, like, hey, he'll be our left guard, and sure he's the heir apparent to Tyron Smith. Yeah, then, which I think was would probably be. I think he's a better guard myself.

He too. I just I wonder if there's teams out there that think that a guy could because I think Trevor Penning at Northern Iowa, I think he's a tackle. Yeah, I think he could play guard. See Flos l Adams played guard at that at that size, you know, sixty seven, and I mean that was that was Penning already runs hunched over like he's blocking inside zone when he's just going to get a snack. Yeah, he's getting He's getting back there. He's a really good player. Nasty guy too,

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one who says any Boise State prospects worth drafting. And I don't know if that's because this guy went to boise Yeah, or if he just knows that the Cowboys used to have a huge affinity for Boisey State. Khalil Shakir, Yeah, wide receiver. Absolutely, They've got a guy that's top of my head. I got to be missing one. Boys, he's usually got more than one NFL prospect. I know the one that I've looked at here so far has been Shakir. I'll tell you what, man that that's a super, super

fun player to study there. And you know, it's funny, these these programs have have a little bit of a run of developing receivers. But this guy, when you watch him play at six foot one hundred and ninety seven pounds, I think he's the perfect height and weight for a wide receiver because he's impressive with the run after the

catch stuff. You know, we talk about these these guys that have the ability to just blow up secondaries, you know, with the physicality with which they play, and I kind of feel like Shakure is that kind of guy because

he's got it. He's almost got like a running back type of build to him, but man, he will catch it and he will do it at all levels and some of his best work and it's always been this way for some of these Boise guys in their offense is the ability to go across the field, the dragging, the deep crossing rounds and stuff like that. But man, this this guy. I love his toughness, I love his ability to get separation, and I love his ability to

go get to football. And I in my last line of this of my notes, I said, this guy has a great chance to play for a long time just because of his makeup and the way he goes after that football. Khalil Shakier, Boise statewide receiver who I have as a third round guy. Yeah, probably makes more what in the hell just happened? Catches yeah than anyone in this class. Yeah he has more one handed but not

yeah stick one hand a little bit. Yeah, always like kind of got it, tip it a little bit, snagg it and like there's like eight of them in this year's tape where it's like he'll lay on his back and catch balls all day. It's kind of gallop ish gallup does that where it's like, oh, that wasn't the cleanest catch ever, but he did it. YEA. Let's see here next, we've got some superlatives from at I'm not reading your user name. Biggest hitters in this draft and

two best route runners in this draft. So just pull up your board and big hitters. When you say big hitters, Actually, the first guy that jumps to my mind isn't the guy who like breaks people the most, but it's the way that he wants to hit is Lewis scene the Georgia's safety scene. Will knock you unconscious, Skinny, He'll knock himself if you if you go back in those two years ago in the Florida Georgia game the Cocktail Party,

he lights up Kyle Pitts. I remember, I remember like watching Pitts in him that game, and I'm like, oh, that's good route good. Oh gosh, he just got murdered. He has no regard for his own health or those of the people he's playing again, No, he really really doesn't. I'll tell you what. Our linebacker from wisconsin's a big hitter. Chanal Yeah, I think six two two sixty, Yeah, I think he. I think he's a guy that's not afraid

to lay the wood. To you there. Uh, I was I was trying to look at think at some of these other like these defensive lineman I've seen and stuff like that. They were kind of Whyatt is a Whyatt is kind of a sneaky up the field when he gets you in the backfield, slamming on the ground guy. I watched a kid named Pascal from Kentuckucky. He's another one of those shoot the gap, get up the field. Next you know he's slamming You're you're running back on

the ground guy. But yeah, as far as those big those big hitters, what about the offensive lineman Kenny, Yeah, those two guys. When you start talking about blockers, they want to break. Yeah, they want to break you in half. And you know the route runners and stuff like that. I mean, you've you've talked a bunch about sky Moore and his ability to get open a great pick by you. Yeah, you know the Alabama kids all run really routes really well.

Minshi run, but she's a good out runner. Yeah. I kind of feel like though two state guys are both going to higher state runners are both good. I mean, I think you in this day and age, you have to be able if you're going to have success in the in the passing game, you have to have guys that are good route runners, and I think this draft

has several of those types of guys. Robert robert O'sheaan wants to know based on the talent gap between the positions, first round offensive line and then second round wide receiver or first round wide receiver and then second round oh line, I would go wide receiver over the OH line. Wait, first round, well, I'm not gonna get I'm not gonna get Cross or Equon Wu or Neil. Oh. I was thinking twenty four. Because I get twenty four, I have

a chance. I have a chance to get Burke's. I think I have a chance to get a lobby and I would rather you know, but I but see, like, but if you do, which offensive linment you take him in the second? Well, I have Penny. You know, I haven't moved Penny. I mean to me, it's Cross, Equon, Wu Neil in my first and then Penny and the start of the second. So to me, I feel like that the wide receiver board will stretch a little further

for me than the offensive tackle board. I don't know, you want to go line wide receiver yeah, I mean, well, yeah, the problem is though I don't have a first round guard. I don't and that's what scares me. The first round inside player that I would take, the first round inside player would be Lindebaum. That's who I would take. See, I'd love for the Cowboys to find a way somehow

draft the center. If you want to do that and then figure out what's going on a guard, whether making a trade there, maybe assigning something like that, maybe you'd give McGovern another chance. I don't think they will, you know. I mean, the scouts would be happy if he got another chance, but I'm not. I think there's when when you start. It's funny because you were talking about questions about Hamilton, and I have questions about Green and Zion

Johnson and Ingram and all those guys I have. I have questions, but I have not as many questions about Linderbaumb. So to me, if you said, oh, you have to pick an inside guy and it have to be plug and play and let's go and no questions, I'm drafting that center from Iowa, I guess we got to see how this thing falls. But my gut is, if you told me you want an offensive lineman and a wide receiver. My preference would be, I want to get one of Linderbaum,

Zion Johnson, Kenyan Green. Yeah, and in the second round I'll still have a good receiver, okay, whereas in the second round offensive line I won't feel as good. And Pickings. My problem a wide receiver, now, tell you a secret. My problem a wide receiver now is the two that I would really love in the second round. My gut is just like they're too good. Yeah, George Pickens ain't going to fifty six, sky Moore ain't going to fifty six.

And so now maybe I'm thinking more it's John MITCHI, yeah at fifty six, which is fine, Yeah, it's fine. It's just not George Pickens. Yeah, we're sky Moore. See that's the thing to me, I think that you can get. I mean, the player that I would be the most excited at, Ingram in the second guys, what you want to do? Well, I've got Green, ingram In, Zion, Johnson, I've got them all right there. And that's what I'm saying. I don't feel totally comfortable with all three of those guys.

I mean, if I felt really really great about him, well, these guys would be a first round guy, but they're not. So. I mean, the only only in tier offensive lineman I have in the first round is Linder Bomb. Which wide receiver if they took one at twenty four would you hope is available? Birch for a lobby? Okay? And very different too, Like they're very different sure either one. I mean, I think I'd be fine with because I don't you know, Okay,

but let me ask you this. I have, I have Jamison Williams as a first round player, but I mean maybe Jamison Williams you think he's here at twenty four because of the injury. I think there were playing a math game because I'd have to think about it, like how many wide receivers do you think go in the first twenty three? The first and I think it could be something like three or four? Yea four go? Yeah?

He was like somebody told me, was it Daniel Jeremiah that did his top fifty and like eight of those guys were wide receivers or something like that. Actually happened to have that tab open, which I shouldn't because NFL dot com is evil and has AutoPlay videos all the time. Sometimes it will blare a stuff you don't really don't want to want to be watching. Some make sure well they don't have content like that, Brian, No, no, but

they blare music and they're kind of embarrassing. Oh they'll say, you know, yes, you should buy this car, you know that kind of thing. All right. So in his top fifty are you just for fun here? Yeah? Wide receivers, he has Garrett Wilson, Ohio state number five. Okay, that's so we'll say he goes in the top twenty three. Okay, Drake London at USC number eight two. So we'll say he goes Chris Olav number sixteen three. We say he goes Jamison Williams number seventeens four trail and Burke's number

twenty one. That's five, John Dotson number twenty five, Okay, slightly after, So it's so basically has five. Well, so there's a chance five receivers are gone. There you go, which again draws up for me if you are a George Pickens, he take guy more fans. He killed my board, Get ready to pick him? He killed my boy, Ready to pick him. William's gone, Wilson's gone, Burkes has gone. O Lobby's gone, London's gone. Okay, get ready, yeah, Pickens, Mitchie, sky Moore go, that's I mean, and I know what

you would do. You get it twenty four. I mean, you know what I've got. I've gotten in the second round. You're not wrong about the player. You're not wrong. I mean you when you know you talked about going to have to study Hamilton's some More. Yeah you Steady sky More. There's there's a lot of gets open catches the ball. This guy's not five eight No, it's not a five eight players eight one sixty Yeah exactly, it's five ten

ninety five. Come get some there you go, and then you know me, I'm like my six foot one ninety seven guy, I'm okay with that. Yeah, you're right on it.

So wide receiver will be interesting. I feel like we're gonna have to watch like forty wide receivers because maybe six or seven go in the first round and the guys thinking about the second bang bang, Jeffrey, I feel more comfortable about wide receivers than I do interior offensive linement, with the exception of Linden Bomb Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because that top group is so I think I said this last week. I if you told me, uh not your life depends on it, because that seems really it's

weird and scary that and gun your head. I never like that. Yeah, not that either. Yeah, but like pinky toe bit yeah, like your reward if you choose to accept this wager. Sure, in the wager is if you get it wrong, if you lose a pinky toe yeah, but if you get it right, you get a sum of money. Do you want to make this wager? Name the best receiver in this draft class five years from now? And I'll give you how many guesses would you need

to make that wager? Because I need seven? Yeah. I think there's seven guys who could end up being the best receiver in this class. And maybe I'm gonna miss even with that because I'm gonna leave out Alec Pierce. I'm gonna leave out Jayalen Tilbert at South Alabama, I'm gonna leave out John Dotson at Penn State because Watson's player.

I got seven receivers in this class that I really, really really like, and that is Garrett Wilson, sky More Trail and Burke's Drake London, Jamison Williams, Chris Olave, George Pickens. Pickens is a sneaky one. Yeah, why he hasn't talked about with the other guys. There's a I don't know. There's a couple of players in this draft that I don't think anybody's really talking about very much. And I think Pickens is the one that whicheveryone goes to Rogers

and which everyone goes to Homes. Yea, I wish you talking you can wish you talked about and you know, and when Chrystal Love makes one hundred and third catch of the year with Rogers Kansas City, is ken't see he's taking a Georgia wide receiver report and then they take Hartman Nicolet Hartman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's my favorite thing of this draft that's not Cowboy related is which of these guys is going to Green Bay and which of these guys out to Kansas City and

whoever it because they're going bonkers. Trust me, I live five years of my life in Green Bay. That guy throwing you the ball, you'll be in the Hall of Fame before you know it. Put sky Moore in the slot with Pat Mahomes and get ready for a hundred twenty Catchen no kidding, no kids. Put one of these outside guys with Aaron Rodgers, give me a route runner with Rogers, give me it need to be a love a yea or sky U give me Jamison Williams with Pat Mahomes. Yeah, I want to throw the ball real far.

Get ready because this stuff is gonna happen. Uh. Travis wanted to know who is the Micah Parsons of this year's draft, someone who you could draft and everyone's like, okay, I guess that works. Then he shows us something we didn't see on tape and is way better than expected. Such a hard question, so you just had to stare at the board and wait for something to come to you. Which guy do you watch and you're like, yeah, I'd be okay with that pick, and then maybe it turns

out that he's a freaking stud. Jermaine Johnson's that guy from me Florida State Edge. Yeah. I think he's a good player, and I don't and I think people are giving him credit, but they're talking about Thibadeau Hutchinson Walker Jane was on Walker from Georgia for a long time, Carloptus. But Jermaine Johnson to me, when you watch him play. There's some people that probably are like, man, he's okay, He's okay. Wait, Georgia transfer, right, you know, Oh, Florida

State not very good to Oh he's okay. And then he gets in the league and just tears this thing up with some of his past rush ability. I'm trying to think about Maffi's another guy from Minnesota. Gosh, man, the past rush group has like five. I know that because like, you get out of the first round and tell me if you have a strong preference on these guys. Ebikati at Penn State, Yeah, Mafe at Minnesota. Second round, I have Ebikati at I have him in the third.

I just I can't figure him out. Well, they're all I think that's what this bench class is, when you get outside of the guys who you're like, okay, I get it, can play the run, can rush the passer, productive at a big school. Like you've got your five or six guy group. Then you come down to the next one and you're like, man, I'm really kind of picking on potential here. I'll give you another one. Fortner

for the center from Kentucky. I think that he's going to be a really, really good pro and I know people will probably not talk. Everybody's talking about Parum and you know, and and and Lindabaum and guys like that. I think that Kentucky center has got a chance to be really, really good. I think if you're going to throw out a random offensive lineman, I could throw out I think Jamari Sawyer, the Georgia had left tackle, could be a really good NFL guard. And Lucas the Washington

State offensive tackle I have as a second round guy. Yeah, there you go. That Dud's a four year starter that has had he has like three thousand college pass pro reps. No, no, yeah, boy, it's clean. They don't They don't really run block two point stance and just yeah, chass block all day when we're running the ball. Just come out of your pass block stands and try your best and see if you could push again. I mean, I mean people were talking about could Muma be a guy that Chad movement could

be a stud that people a small school guy. Yeah, but unlike a lot of linebackers in his class, Like, I think he's maybe as good moving backward as he is forward. And That's what I'm looking for in linebackers. Yeah, I'm not necessarily looking for just run forward and thump. Yeah, but what do you do coverage? How comfortable are you with it? What's your How agile are you? How like? And Chad Muma. The only thing that stops me from having him as like a top forty player is where

he played. Yeah, I haven't seen don't let don't let that that quarterback that you didn't like very much is went to school there too. Yeah. Now if he played quarterback, I would put him higher, but like a linebacker at that level of competition, but he does everything. I'm just totally busting. He does everything. Let me tell you. I'll give you a guy that it's hard to find tape

on him. Joshua Williams from Fayetteville State is a cornerback that's six four one ninety five pounds And it's one of those things I always ask myself this question, Why is Joshua Williams at six four one five playing at Fayetteville State? You know, six four corners are weird? Man. Yeah, it's weird. It's very weird. People trip me out in the NFL. It's weird. And you know what I mean, this guy can't Yeah, he's tall. And hebody moves exceptionally well and I was lucky to somehow some way hook

and crook some some like a game. Yeah, you're working a side hustle somewhere. I'm trying. I'm trying. I mean, I'm trying, but it doesn't always work. Trust me on this, but I did. Somebody told me about him, and so this guy. Just keep an eye. Joshua William six five from Fayetteville Steak. He was in the Senior Bowl too. You can go back and watch him in the Senior Bowl drills and stuff like that that I do have access. Yet there you go. That'd be the best. That would

be the best thing. I would recommend Jeff that you do go take a look at that. In the vein of Mumam, I gotta throw out Cole Strange. My only knock on Cole Strange because he's blocking me and you it's my only knock. But you're watching him run, block and finish and pass pro looks easy. It's just he's at Chattanooga and so it's like I don't have a reference point. He was competitive at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, are you gonna put a ton of stock into that

or just say hey, good job. Like if the Cowboys drafted Cole Strange in the third round to come compete at left guard, I'd be fine with that. It's just Chattanooga take. He's blocking me all the time. You know, he's kicking my butt. Yeah, you know you can, you can't. They did play Kentucky, so you can kind of cane and held his own at Kentucky. Yeah. You know, the thing about him is, again, here's one of my references.

I said, kind of a throwback old school player, and he doesn't wear any gloves or pads on his hands. You just kind of bare handed there. The way it plays, no defensive lineman at Kentucky looked like a better player than Cole Strange. Yeah. The thing about it is, man, I mean this, this guy looks like a really good foot athlete on tape because you'd never see him on the ground. He was only on the ground when he was on top of his guy. And then there was

a lot of times like East Tennessee. Stay, you know, he was pinning his guy pretty well right there. But this guy does a super job of finishing those blocks. The movement skills not as clean as it always when he's pulling in stuff or redirecting, and I thought there was a little struggle there when he had to turn into juzz. But man, once he gets this guy going,

he could just play through it. And I thought he had a good pass set and balance and body control in some of those things when you're talking about pass blocking. But the pulling stuff looked a little clunky to the run blocking when it getting in space looked a little clunky for him. So you know, I mean, let's see beat the senior pulls another one of those great things you go back and watch and play against better competition. One more segment to go on today's edition of The

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Probably the probably Trevor Penning. I'll tell you what. Maybe people maybe maybe like Jordan maybe Jordan Davis would be a good one. Georgia defensive tackle. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anybody that could do the get up on the turnbuckle stuff and start diving down on people. Did the people's help the people's that was done from the ground, Yeah, macho man did the other one. Yeah. Trent McDuffie with his little arms and kind of not a big guy, just kind of damn gymnastics out there,

he would be. Yeah, like Jimmy Snooker off the top rope. Your guy Marcus Jones at Houston. Marcus Jones would be a good little athletic guy, kind of do that. Yeah. The Cowboys are in Tuscaloosa tomorrow tomorrow. Will McClay, the headball coach, is going in dan Quinn. Are all going to Alabama tomorrow? Is Mike McCarthy. I'm like the sometimes defender of Mike McCarthy because a lot of people just don't like Mike mccarthur. I'm the sometimes defender. But let

me ask you this real quick. On Twitter today, you said something verily really interesting that that we why are we going after the Cowboys so much in the front office when they do a good job of evaluating players and putting players on this roster. I don't know. I think people just want to win Super Bowls. Sure, and so if you make the playoffs and then you lose, and you make the playoffs and then you lose, at least you're making the playoffs over a period of decades.

I think that right now the Cowboys have reached the point where a fan base has reached a frustration point that you can't win a freaking playoff game. Yeah, but I'm the weirdo. That's like, if you gave me the Marvin Lewis Bengals and you were like, hey, twenty straight years of not doing anything, I'm gonna get you in the mix every year. Yeah, Like I feel like they made the playoffs every year. Yeah, I'm like, Okay, you've done your job, Let's go win a freaking playoff game. Sure,

and you did. And so people are like this front office this, this front office that, and it's like, well, you're disappointed because you think this front office built a team that should have won even more than the twelve games at won. So you probably shouldn't hate this front office that much. You think they built a really good team. And they tend to do that unless their quarterback dies, not dies, but gets hurt, gets hurt, Like that's kind of what they do. So, yeah, that's my off season

thing about the Cowboys. As I understand that sports fans are passionate that the Cowboys haven't won enough postseason games and forever, and so people are gonna be frustrated. But I think there's a balance there where you realize you're competitive. What you really want is your players to play better in the one play off game that they played in last year. Sure, that's what you want, right, And so I'm not going to take that and then projected onto

they're all idiots. Nobody knows what they're doing. Well, yeah they do. Otherwise you wouldn't be so mad that you lost a playoff game. You thought you should have won that playoff game, true, because you had a good enough

team yeah. I just it's funny because, like I say, when you know, when you and I were doing radio together and stuff like that, it was always like, you know, they're just I think the fans are even lining up more now I think they I think, yeah, they're they're really the frustration was high, but you know, but that's what I'll be your sunshine. They call me positive Jeff, you know. And also too, something came out of that, you know. Mike McCarthy meeting with the media this morning too,

he talked about that. Will McClay mentioned and I've said this before the times you and I've worked together on the draft traditionally had like one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty draftable names, and we put way too many guys on our boards. No that and now that I'm now that I'm doing it where how I want to do it. That's what I'm doing. I think it's like team was like, I'm not you would watch every player we could. It's like, oh, he's not very good.

Throw them in the seventh it's not very Really, what you need to do is say, put them on, make a note that you watched him, put him off. He's not on my board, and that's exactly right. So you get you get two hundred and fifty, one hundred and sixty names. Will McMichael McCarthy said today they're looking at two twenty and I think a lot of it has to do because of COVID football and what is it

usually you said one fifty to one sixty. Yeah, but COVID football we've got, you know, like the university had a lot of six year guys, six years guys, that's what That was the one thing that scouts were telling me when they were going on the road that they were worried about that all of a sudden, there they had They're going to have to look at about one hundred and fifty more players than they've had before because of all the guys taken that extra sixth year. You

got a fair wore to put this twenty six year old. Yeah, like that offensive Oh yeah he's good. He's twenty six offensive tackle from Minnesota. Fucking kids. Yeah, but that's but that's it's funny that you know, now they're working on a board this year, it's going to be probably two hundred and twenty names. I'm not having two hundred and twenty names on my board. I'm sorry, that's not I'm not either. I'll get to about one thirty one forty

and I'm gonna move on with my day. There's a lot of there's a lot of talent shocking, I know, in Tuscaloosa to work through. So it'll be interesting to see what comes out of there where it's like here's Dan quinn working with here's Mike McCarthy watching Jamison Williams. Well, I guess he may not do anything. No, probably not him, Menshi. Both are kind of struggling a little bit with the

injuries and things like that. I think that to me, this is more about Mike going in there and having a feeling about those defensive tackles, you know, having it about the linebacker as well. You know, I think there's a that's a that's a couple of spots that I would look at for sure, you know, going in there and making sure we had those guys covered up. Justin wanted to know is justin Ross in consideration for you

on day two or day three? And that is I admit a guy that I am somehow lacking and haven't watched it him. I've got him and I was a freshman who's a stud. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know this is a guy that actually hurt his neck and you know and miss time. I mean he's six four, he's two hundred and five pounds. You know, he's that tall, thin build. I don't think he has great time speed, but the initial quickness and get off and stuff is

going to be really, really, really good. You know, the coaches do try and get him the ball in space and let him go. He can make things happen with the ball in his hands. He's going to find ways to make plays. He could be a hard guy to knock off his feet, even being like that tall, thin build. And I've seen these defenders take shots at him, Jeff, and he manages to stay up right and you know, the hands to snatch the ball, the body control of the balance, the adjust to get the feet down in

tight spaces, go high in order to get it. He had a reception in the Syracuse game where it was amazing how high he was able to get up to get that ball. So you talk about high point in the football, I think the concentration. But yeah, you know, there's gonna be questions about him because he missed the entire twenty twenty season with a neck injury. So you

know he came back and played and necks aren't fun. Yeah, and that, and you know he you know, the team wasn't up to Clemson standards and the quarterback wasn't up to Clemson standards. But he's been super productive. But that neck is something that people are definitely gonna have to check out. Here's a Twitter handle I can relate to at lost a thought, Yeah, lost a thought with Jerry

telegraphing the team supposed a draft strategy. Do you think another team could jump us for a player like Zion Johnson or Kenyan Green This is another one of my positive Jeff here. I'm gonna hit you with some positive Jeff real quick because I see this a lot where it's like, oh, teams knew you were gonna cut a Mary Cooper, you would have got more. If Mary Cooper was Tyreek Hill, you would have got a Tyreek Hill

Hall for sure, he's not. You didn't ye Green Bay today, I don't remember if it was head coach or GM was like, yeah, we honestly, what we really need is a legitimate deep threat. They could take the top off every team is going to talk about what they're going to do. And unless an NFL team is completely incompetent, you already know what other teams want to do. Yeah, they're not teams know you need a left guard, Jerry saying it is not gonna make somebody go, you know what.

A matter of fact, he's right, they need a left guard. Well let's jump him for the left guard. If they were going to jump you for the left guard, they're already talking about it. Yeah, if they're not waiting for Jerry Jones to announce your plans. You want to have some fun. That was your job. Your job was to know what teams were gonna do. You want to have some fun. Go back on Google and look at my nineteen ninety eight talk to the Philadelphia media about that draft.

You guys know what we need exactly not a secret, that's exactly right. We know that's the truth that you do know. You do know these fans. Fans aren't stupid. They watch enough games, and that's what pro departments are for. That's what you know. When I was my job with the Cowboys in two thousand and five when we were trying to draft Marcus Spears, and your job is to get yelled at by Bill Parcels. Parcels, Like, you know,

he yelled at me. He goes, you know, I told him, I said, hey, Cincinnati, Minnesota, they're going to take defensive ends. He goes, why the hell would you say that? And I go because the owner asked me to say that. It's my job. It's my job. And he go and he didn't, you know, And then sure enough Erasmus James and David Pollock went off the board boom boom. But they didn't take Marcus Spears. Okay, so that was probably just him still being mad that he didn't get Sean Merriman.

Oh no, they had to take the same year. You know. Yeah, he was happy that we had the twentieth pick to get Spears. But before us at eighteen and nineteen were two you know, we're two different you know, we're two defensive ends. And so you know, like I say, you know, that's your job, Jerry, and others don't. It's not a secret. It's just not I mean, teams could look team needs, you know, Yeah, I can google this and I could get it from eight different websites and they'll all agree

on what the needs are. Okay, we know the NFL. Yeah, okay, Well, let's let's talk about the Cowboys seventeen eighteen games this season. Hmmm, left guard seemed to be a problem spot. You can tell that in eighteen games. Cooper's gone. They might be short of wide receiver. Oh and another guy's got to hurt knee. M Maybe they can do Wait a minute, they sign they're tied in for one year, and the

other one is probably going to retire. Yeah, exactly. Teams know and they're going to like, will teams actively try to jump you for a position they want? Sure? Yeah, not because of what Jerry said. Well, because they know what you want and if they want it too, they know they gotta go get it. And you gotta be smart that know what teams behind you. That's what I'm saying. You gotta know what teams potentially could jump you. You know, you gotta know going in the teams that are aggressive

at training up New Orleans Saints. You do not want the New Orleans Saints behind you. When Sean Payton was there, Sean Payton will come flying all the way up the board. John Dorsey back in the day with Andy Reid in Kansas City. Look what they did for Pat Mahomes come flying up the board. There's some teams you know we're gonna come. You gotta be alert and you got to know what their needs are. Well, hey, by the way, we're pick twenty four. Oh what pick thirty? This team

has a need of a guard. We have to be worried about, you know, can't somebody else coming up the board on us. I would like to thank Jakuaski Tart of San Francisco for dropping that interception so that the Rams could move on and then go in the Super Bowl. Because the Rams I don't give a half a hoot about my first round picks, second round picks or whatever. It's like it's permeating now. And I think that frustrates Cowboy fans too, because you're watching other teams. We're like, fine,

here's all my ones. Give me Diary kill Fine, here give me Davante Adams, Here, give me Russell Wilson. I would like to thank the Rams for winning that Super Bowl because it's making the offseason a lot of fun. It is, even if the Cowboys aren't going to play that game, which they're not see and that's what I think is disappointing to Cowboy fans, and I think that honestly, I think if Will McClay ran his own team, I think his attitude wouldn't be to do what the Cowboys

are doing right now. I think Will does what Stephen Jones wants him to do. And I'm not saying he's a puppet guy, but I'm saying, you know, he puts a lot of pressure on Will on this draft. Yeah, he really really does. He leans on these scouts, and rightfully so these scouts have delivered, a lot of them have, and so it's a lot of pressure. But I think that if you saw Will McClay, what's funny about the Cowboys.

If there's a team that should be super aggressive and do crazy things, it's a Cowboys because they're general manager and player personnel guy. I'm not going anywhere. You know, you can make moves if you're not going to get fired. Some of these general managers make moves because they're gonna

get fired. If you think about what Chris Greer's doing in Miami right now, if it doesn't work out in Miami with all the cap they've used and all the picks and stuff they've used, if that doesn't happen, then you know what's going to happen. Chris Greery gets fired. But it's not Chris Greer's problem anymore. Some other guys problem. See, And I think that is one of the things in Lydon Tampa. Yeah, less snit in the Rams. I think that is a philosophical debate, doesn't have a right or

wrong answer. And I know which side the Cowboys are on in this, and I think I agree with them. Yeah, where it's like, look, any team in the league could increase their chances of winning this Super Bowl this year by a little bit by hey, move that money, move that money, move that money, trade that trade that boom. Look at we have a little better chance to win

the Super Bowl this year. And because the Rams just one one doing it, I think the whole world is like, that's the right way, Whereas I think a lot of teams believe if we're in the mix every year, all that matters is you get to the playoffs and then you get lucky. Sounds like a cop out, but that's part of it. Quaski Tart dropped a pick. Yeahs move on, Rams, win super Bowl. Like you, I am in the camp where it's like, give me the best chance to get

there every year and eventually it'll work. Sure, it would help if you had like the best quarterback in football. They tend to win more often than most people. But I need Dak to play to that level and just put me in the tournament. You talked to me in you talked to Jason like at Tampa three years ago. Jason felt like that his he was packing up the U haul. So at that point, why not and then I'll send Tom Brady shows up. Yeah, but he but Jason had drafted a pretty good team. He just couldn't

find a quarterback. He tried. He tried with Jamis Winston, but thirty interceptions and thirty touchdowns doesn't get it done. I mean he tried, not quite, not quite. But see that's what I'm saying, though, Sometimes you have to have a little bit of luck along the way with the moves you make. And both him unless Snead have done a really good job of taking advantage of things of moves that he can make. Well, Brian, that was fun. Shout out to Miller Lytton, Y Tax and WrestleMania and

Rowdy third d Route. Always shout out to Rowdy. Always shout to rowdy and Thursday, maybe there will be other people here, but I'll be honest, I hope not. I hope it's just us again, and that we come up with the show two minutes before the show, not that we did that today. Well, you and I'll do a show on Wednesday Night together, Wedday Night, my YouTube batch Jeff Kavanaugh. There you go. All right, Thanks everybody. We will see you next time. Hellmet will be back from Miami,

Yeoman's will be back from New New York. Yeah, and Brian and I'll be here. It'll be time for the Draft show next week of you Bye. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.