Draft Show: An Exciting First Night

Dallas Cowboys dot com. The following is a production of the Dallas Cowboys Media Group and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Welcome to Dallas Cowboys dot COM's live Bumper to Mumper coverage of the NFL Draft with David Hellman, Kevin Turner, Dane Brugler, Cowboys coaches, draft picks, and special guests. Now your host, Kyle y Yeomans, And it is the twenty twenty INFL Draft here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. It looks a little bit different than drafts that we've had

in the past. It's all virtual, all socially distant, and this is going to be a fun and interesting night to say the least as we get you ready for two hundred and fifty five picks. We've got two hundred and fifty five picks over the next three days. This is going to be incredible. Kyle Yeoman's, Dave Hellman, Dane Brugler, and Kevin Turner all with you here for the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. And Dave, you're looking very dapper this evening, even though you're socially distant and you're

on your couch, You're looking great. Man. I have a tradition to uphold Kyle. I know this is your first go round, but on Thursday night we wear ties. So I'm in my living room instead of the studio. I don't care. I'm dapper, got my draft guy, got my TV, got my Miller Lite. I'm ready to pick some players. Let's do this thing. Bar ready, And of course we've got the great Dane Brugler in the house from the Athletic all the way from Ohio. Dane, so glad you're back.

And it seems like a tradition in its own to have you as a part of some of the Dallas Cowboys draft coverage. Tell you what at this time last year I thought it was going to be my final draft show and then pumping to you guys to combine and say let's do this, let's do this again, and then it just worked out perfectly. You know, I have just had this special relationship with Cowboys fans that started, you know, six seven years ago now, and I really

enjoy talking draft with everybody. So this is gonna be a fun three days. Can't wait at with us today. He's the first round man. As always, Kat, it's not your first go round either, but it is wanted to remember, no doubt about it. No, this is gonna be really exciting. And the fact that Dave wore a tie kind of embarrassment a little bit. But I get the sweet Draft show shirts. Yeah, sponsored by Miller Lite of course, there we go. So yeah, and I'm really excited picking in

the middle again. That seems to happen almost every other year with the Cowboys kind of picking right there in the middle. But it's gonna be an exciting tonight. Not for many reasons. A lot of uncertainties, trades, miscommunications, perhaps, what are the Cowboys gonna do? What's the rest of the league gonna do? There's a lot of questions about this year, maybe maybe more so than any year that I can really remember. I think that's really kind of the intriguing part, and it kind of adds to the

fun of draft night. I mean, what's so fun about the draft in the first place. It's the fact that there's uncertainty, there's that intrigue of things could go so terribly wrong. But at the same time, it gives you hope for the future. That's kind of that back and forth tuggle boar that you have with the NFL Draft, and then you throw in the wrench of what our society has had to deal with over the past couple

of months. It adds to that as well, gives us a chance to take a break and to live a little bit in our sports teams like we would normally. And as it being my first draft to be with you guys, it's one that I'm never going to forget. I'll tell you that much about it. But I'm certainly ready to get into some of these prospects. And we've got the first thirty two picks today. Like ka team mentioned, picking in the middle of the first round, the Cowboys

pick at seventeen. It should be right around nine o'clock just before nine o'clock is when the Cowboys would be making their pick. Will be all the way up through all thirty two picks today and then all two hundred and fifty five over the course of the weekend. But Dane, you put out a mock draft today, your final mock draft, and the Cowboys kind of, at least over the last couple of weeks, it's been interchangeable who they could go with. Who did you have with the Cowboys at seventeen in

your final mock draft? Yeah, And it's tough because I think CJ. Anderson Florida is a player that they love to have and played on Chase On a pass rusher at LSU is a player I think they'd love to have. And it's tough to see one of those two guys following. But in my final lock, one of them big a player that obviously uh, Dave is very familiar with. Uh uh. This team added to pass Alden's man, uh, but they're

not done. They're gonna still add some more pass rush talent and I think they can do that for a round. In Chase on follow the seventeen speed, off the edge, explosiveness, He's not a free to extend, convert that speed to power rock tackles into the batfields. Joe Burrow ladwords player, all those offensive playmakers at LSU had was a big part of why they won the national title was defensive dudes.

We're gonna hear their name called tonight, SA LSU is can be pretty well represented and one of those guys could end up in Dallas in the first round. What do you think about that? Yeah, I mean I just have to embrace it. Like, obviously, everybody knows I got Patrick Peterson over my shoulder right here. Everybody knows where I went to school, But I swear to God it really has nothing to do with the fact that I graduated from LSU. I mean, Dane's done enough drafts with me.

I think he knows. You know, I'm not just a blind homer for LSU prospects. But when you think about what the Cowboys need where they're drafting, what this first round presents, I think Calevan Chason is about as best case scenario as you could add for c Jaerson would be amazing. I think that's a little of a pipe dream. I could be wrong. We're gonna find out here in the next couple hours, but I think it's far more

likely Chason is there for you at seventeen. And when you consider your other options, would they love a cornerback shirt? But his Chason have more upside than the other cornerbacks available. I think so. And that's why you know he's not a perfect prospect. He's definitely not bustproof, but there's so much upside and so much potential. I just think when you're picking in the back half of the round, that's a pretty best case scenario if he falls there for you.

This is where the game gets really fun watching names come off the board, picking a guy that you like. If you're a Cowboys fan, you might have a couple of guys on your short list. It kind of maybe checking off who might be there. Well, four quarterbacks go before the Cowboys pick at seventeen. Does Miami end up taking a quarterback knowing that Miami picks at eighteen, that could be an interesting thing. If Miami doesn't take a

quarterback at five, maybe they want quarterback at eighteen. Well, if you want to get ahead of Miami, you gotta call Dallas at seventeen to get ahead of them. So that opens up some possibilities as well. I think we're just in for quite a ride. This is gonna be terribly fascinating, not only from a Cowboys perspective, but from the rest of the league as well, because you're just looking at this and this can fall a number of different ways, especially right there and picks ten through twenty.

I think, kind of intriguingly, going off of what you just said, Katie, it's not just the Cowboys to have a lot wide open. It really starts with the third, fourth, fifth pick, and then so on and so forth. There's so many question marks going into this first round. What kind of scenarios, Dane, are we going to see kind of play out early on? This is the chaos is

going to start at three. I think we feel pretty good about one, we feel pretty good about two, But then what's going to happen at three and risk some trade action. We're gonna see some different things happen, and it's gonna be interesting to see. You know, team mentioned the quarterbacks. How many quarterbacks going to top six? We know Joe Burrows going one, but then what about Justin Herbert? What about two? Of what's going to happen with these quarterbacks?

That's really going to I think, set the stage for the trades that are going to happen. And then the tackles are coming off the board. It's just there's a lot of dominoes in front of the Cowboys that really are going to make these things, make it interesting to see who falls. And then, like I said, teams are gonna be aggressive. I think, you know, the Broncos, the Falcons, the two teams right in front of the Cowboys at seventeen.

I wouldn't be surprised at off we see both of those teams or at least one move up to go get a player they're looking at. I see a deal getting done Dave over the next couple of moments that could ultimately make a difference in that first top five before um wow, man, that would be intriguing. I mean, God, we've talked about the Dolphins and the Lions so much it's it's been beaten into the ground. U I think

at this point we're fifteen minutes out. I mean, if something's gonna happen, unless I'm missing something live on Twitter, something's gonna happen. I feel like it'll happen when these teams go on the clock, I think it was gonna happen ahead of time. They could have ironed it out by now. I think typically when the bullets start flying

is when these things kind of come together. It depends on like how many of those teams want to get aggressive there and move up, you know, Like I'm sure the Giants at four might be a team that might might want to get out of there a little bit

and move back. Maybe even Detroit would want to move back. Perhaps, But if no one's really calling and knocking on the doors, like we've seen in years past, where there's been trade ups for guys like Mitch Drubisky, there's been trade ups for guys like Carson Wentz to get up to the top two. I mean, if there's not someone really knocking on the door to really go up to and what we assume would be TUA in that case we assume at quarterback, then you know, maybe there's not gonna be

able to be much business done up top. And that's I think the business is going to be done. As Dane was alluding to a minute ago, Atlanta and Denver. You know, that's the range of teams that might want to move up a little bit and that's also kind of where it's where Dallas is sitting at seventeen. I think there's some interesting teams at the back end of the top ten. What's jackton Ville been in? Are they really gonna just roll out Gardner Minshoo next year and

go for it? Like there's so many fascinating teams with so many decisions to make, And I just I think we're gonna see a lot of trades in a lot of chaos tonight. I think this is the worst year possible for that, given the circumstance stances of doing this virtually and social distancing. But I do feel like we're probably looking at five, six, seven trades tonight that could happen, and another bit of intrigue tonight and the overall weekend.

And I know earlier today we were on Fox Sports Southwest for Cowboys Draft Day Insider, and Rob Phillips came out and said that he thinks that they're going to break the record for trades because you're sitting around on your phones and you're in your room, things could get a little bit nuts. I don't think that's the case. By no means do I foresee nineteen trades going on but how do you guys kind of see that happening with the technology, with the virtual side of this whole thing.

Is there a possibility that trades are really kind of dialed back? I think you go either way. I think I think fans would be surprised how many trades are actually how many. The framework happened during the week before. That's when teams really have a chance to lay out what they're looking for. If player A is here, that's

when we would possibly move up. I mean, all the groundwork has been laid, so it's not like I don't think that we're gonna have a scenario where teams are cut off guard, where okay, we're out of options, so let's get on the phone try to work a last minute deal. All the framework has been laid, so they know who could call. We're teams looking to move up, if they want to move up, who they can move up with. So you know, there's a lot of interesting teams that are willing to move And it starts three

and four. The Lions and the Giants then really started to get interesting. I think the main the main headlines. I think in the top half of round one two, we're dego the tackles, how many tackles go top ten, top twelve. And in the trade action, I do think we're going to see plenty of trade action happening, and it's it's going to be interesting to see how that shakes thinks, goes Dane, I wanna. I've been thinking about that since we kick this off. I read your mock

this morning. I think to bring it back to the Cowboys. That's what's so fascinating to me is you think, and I'm right there with you, there's no guarantee that C. J. Henderson Calevan Chason are available at seventeen, right, right, But if those guys go, and you got three wide receivers who probably go, you know, there's ninety five tackles that are in consideration in the first round of this draft.

If those two guys are not availing a bowl, it seems like a pretty good bet that somebody we're not counting on could be pushed down into that seventeenth draft spot. And that's that's a good point. Especially we'll see how many quarterbacks go to go out of the Cowboys that that's another factor that put one of these players down. And we've talked so much about guys like Javone kin Law.

And you know, whether the team they made some important free Asian editions at the defensive tackle squot, would they still go with a kin Law? You know, there's some metal stuff you got to worry about there. If they get wiped out in their top two walls, which we assume the top seaquahings with Jason and Henderson, then I think we're looking at corner right, Is that what we're thinking?

AJ Terrell Travon Digs. That seems like the most logical approach that where they'd be looking at seventeen based on my social media feed. Uh. And I maybe not be helping with this because I don't have a J. Terrell is one of my top five cornerbacks rated. Uh, Dane, Can we go ahead and talk about AJ Terrell a little bit because that has been a name that's been bounced about a lot, and I think Cowboys fans may want to know. Okay, why does it seem like the media,

at least here locally is kind of down on AJ Terrell? Uh? Because you know, that's a that's a scary thing for some fans if that name gets out there and then like, well everyone's saying that he's not very good. He's a good player. Why don't you give us a little bit

more on him? Yeah, I think he picked the two worst games to play his worst football and at the final two games of the year for Clemson and notably in a national title game or a Jamark case just kind of had his way up and down the field. But it, you know, context being what it is, Jamar Chase is if he were in the draft, you'd be the first receiver drafted, probably among the top ten. But the body of work for a j terrell Is is

still pretty impressive. He is a big body, corner, very good athlete at six four for two in the forty year dash. So I think when you look at the totality of this player in college, the full body of work, you see a quality player. Now twenty that's still be a little rich for me, just my personal opinion. But still, they don't make corners that are six one that run four for two, just you know, they're just hanging out

there waiting to be picked. This is a talented player who if he doesn't, if the Cowboys don't take him, he would I could seem going nineteen, I could see him going twenty two. I don't think it's out of

the top twenty five. So Aj Terrell, it's not just the Cowboys that are interested and possibly making him their first round draft choice, but underneath ten minutes until the draft actually gets under way, it seems like the corners are kind of one of those areas where there's just a jumbled mess right at the beginning, not just with Christian Fulton, Trayvon Diggs, and Terrell, but also a guy who Kevin Turner is very very high on, and Jeff Gladney. Where do you kind of see Jeff Gladney's a DFW

product coming out of TCU. This is another individual that I think cornerwise the Cowboys might not be very high on. Where do you kind see him flalling in the middle of this. I don't have any idea how the Cowboys valued Gladnee. And you know, sometimes you get you hear James like they might be in on, you know, Chavon Diggs, you know, whispers of names like AJ Terrell, and you hear things. I haven't heard much about how they feel

about Jeff Gladney. I think abou Jeff Gladney. I think the number one thing people do is They knock him for his size, but if you look at it, he's got really long arms, he's got good length, and I think he's a very aggressive corner I think he's very good as a man player. But I really find him to be a guy who can kind of get in

the mix. And I think there's so much emphasis put on being a little more aggressive defensively, whether that's from the scheme who's gonna blitz more, whether it's from just overall frustrates not getting turnovers over the last few years. I find glad need to be a very aggressive cornerback and someone who I think deserves to go in the first round. But you know, for me, you know, I like him maybe more than the rest of the world does.

But that's fine. It's why we do this, right. We all have varying opinions on players, and we agree on some players as well. But for me, I would prefer Gladney at seventeen over a J. Terrell. But you know, based on what you kind of hear around the league and just looking around, I don't know if the rest of the league feels that way, Katie. To your point, I think when you look at ball production, you look

at stats at the college level. In my experience, one of the best stacks that translate from college to the NFL passes defended. If you get your hands on the football in college, chances are you're gonna do it in the NFL. And only two players in college football and over fifteen passes defended each of the last two years, one of them being Jeff Gladney. The other meet robertson

the movies the Nattack. So really talented corners in this class that neither are the biggest guys in the world, but both of them are ballhawks with that mentality that you want and that immediately leads to ball production. Let's talk safety. We're sticking with the secondary where we've talked about some of these corners, but at least going into the offseason, it seems like safety was really that go

too for the Cowboys. What is something that you can look at with maybe where the value is where you kind of find yourself at least evaluating an Xavier McKinney, a Grant Delpit, some of these later safeties, even an Antoine Winfield junior from Minnesota. Dave I know, it seems like the value may not be there. For these safeties at pick seventeen. But if you trade back and you find yourself in the middle of the twenties or even early thirties, this might be the sweet spot for those guys,

Thank Kyle. And I'm a cynic. I'm a cynic by nature, so maybe that's my cynical attitude. But I've been burned before. Okay, I've fallen in love with a lot of safeties over the years. I've convinced myself on numerous occasions that the Cowboys were going to draft one. You know. Obviously, last year it was want Thornhill, Old Taylor Rap, this year Adderley, those guys. That's not to say that they can't do it or that they won't do it, but at this point I almost need to see it to believe it.

And if I mean, if you're talking about the first round, yeah, I think McKinney is in consideration. I hear more about McKinney than I do about Delpit, to be honest with you, but I think that they're interested in both of those guys. But I think at seventeen, I definitely think they would have to be wiped out. And then if you're talking about a trade back again. You talk about value. Let's just imagine that the Cowboys trade back to like twenty five,

you know, say they trade with Minnesota. Are you going to draft one of those safeties there? Or is there an aj Terrell or a Trevon Diggs that you feel a lot better about. I think everybody would agree drafting a cornerback is the bigger priority. So I don't want to rule it out completely, but I think a lot of stuff would have happen for them to pick a safety over some of the other likely options. I think I agree with you. I will do want to ask if we let's rule out cornerback, let's rule out edge

for a minute. But if they traded back into the twenties and something was there that we were maybe not thinking about, Like, is there any chance that they would pull out twenty thirteen again and trade back and take a center given that Travis Frederick just retired. I don't think that's what they should do. But you know how this team thinks about, or at least over the years, have thought about, you know, running the football and establishing

dominance up front. I don't think they would, um. I know, you know, people talk about Caesar Ruise. You know he's a great player. UM, I don't think so, because you just you you address that last year, like Connor McGovern, Connor McGovern was not a need pick. He was the best player available. That's why you draft guys like that, because you never know when you're gonna need him. They have Joe Looney, they have Connor McGovern, Mike McCarthy, and

the pre draft press conference. Even through Connor Williams in there as an option, it's just, I mean, you don't need a first round pick at every position on the offensive line, or you shouldn't in order to be able to function. Um. I would be pretty surprised by that, honestly. And look, you guys know, I'm on Team forty Burger. I would love to see the Cowboys spend a big pick on a receiver, but I really think something crazy is going to have to happen for this pick to

not be a defender. I just's I got feeling. And you haven't had a chance to shine in on Team forty Burger. Are you captain trade down or a usergeant trained down? One of those? I guess h sub series of Jeff cavanalls thinking where are you kind of at with the Cowboys draft strategy overall. I mean it's cliche, but best player availables or I always lean towards because you just oh boring football. Football is a game of attrition.

That's your point. With the government pick last year and especially the first list, you're seventeen best play in the draft, you're going to get one of them. And I think that's where you look at it. Played on Chase on a C. J. Henderson H and if ed the being a receiver, it'd be tough to pass on one H. For just me speaking personally, I think they better maybe better off the chasa on Henderson. But if even if the Justin Jefferson were there for me at seventeen, that's

a high wayed player for me on my board. And so that's the direction I would leave, even though I think we're you look at receiver and this team I think is a good spot, but it's you want to get better and you want The best way I can sum it up is I think you want to take the player that the rest of your division is going to look at and say crap, you know, like just the Cowboys added who like you know, and that that's

kind of how I look at it. So yeah, they could go with maybe try to address a need, go best player, go the guy that's going to make the rest of your division look at it and say just shaking their heads because the Cowboys just kind of a lot better. Mister Burglar, in your many years of covering these drafts, would you not agree that the Cowboys tend to use need as their tiebreaker when it's even remotely close, No question. And that's I mean, Kyle ast what I

would do. That's kind of where I l this team. They tend to lean towards where they you know, they I don't want to say they pick up their mind before the raft in terms of the position, h but it's still something that they have an idea of where they want to go this year. We feel like, Okay, if Chason's off the board, I think we can all agree there's a high likelihood it's going to be somewhere

in the secondary of pick seventeen. I think secondary is a good solid spot there at seventeen, but also edge rusher and you mentioned calevan Chase on and I don't think we've gone in depth at least on who he could be because right now, as we enter the seven o'clock hour, we're nearing the first round. It's right around the corner, and it still seems like Calevan Chason out of LSU. Is that go to or at least the

prediction for most Cowboys Nation. Dave, you're an LSU alum, you've had an eye on Chase on for a couple of years. Now, what is your scouting report overall on the kind of player that he is for those of Cowboys Nation that maybe doesn't know who Calevan Chason is, Kay, Calevan chase On, Um, you're gonna look at him and think of a three to four outside linebacker. He's he's He's not like drastically light, but he is light for an NFL defense then, at least at this point in

his career. The interesting thing about him is he didn't get to do Pro Day. He didn't work out at the Combine because he thought he would have a Pro day. Um, so you know, scouts and teams might have it, but we on the outside do not have his testing numbers, which I assure you would be freakish if they were public. Incredibly athletic, he is a quick to guy. He's got a great first step, and the thing that I think people need to remember about him. You know, people are

scared because of his lack of college production. He had nine and a half college sacks. He had six and a half for LSU's national title team. So that's six and a half sacks in fifteen games. It's not great. The guy's also twenty years old. He's only started one season of college football. He tore his ACL and the

season opener of the twenty eighteen season. He was a rotational guy as a freshman, so he grabbed the starting job as a true sophomore, lost it because of injury, and got better every season as the year win along in his only season as a starter. To borrow a phrase that Dane Brugler uses all the time, everything about this guy points to him being an ascending player and as far as intangibles go, which I think are important. I don't know how many people outside the LSU program

know this, but he won't eighteen for a reason. That number is given to guy as a designation of leadership, good attitude, being that right kind of guy, first in the building, last to leave. They give it out every year to players that they think are worthy and it's it's a big honor within the program, and for them to give it to a twenty year old is pretty remarkable. So, like I said, I mean, he's got short arms for a pass rusher. His college production is not off the chart.

I understand why it scares people. He's not a slam dunk, but I feel very comfortable betting on that upside, especially given that you are all the way back at pick seventeen. You know, i'd see watching him play and watching those LSU games one thing you may notice. I think a lot of people might just go straight to the box score and look, Okay, maybe the production is not where

you want. He's at your Classics fourteen sack guy. Well, if you just watch the tape of LSU games, he's all over the field and he's in the mix all the time against the run and when pressuring the quarterback. So to me, I think what Dane said about him being as sending player, I think it is a great point. And I think you also have to look at the team right now. You're in trouble if you're counting on

your defensive end group to be DeMarcus Lawrence. An injury history of Tyrone Crawford Alden Smith and Randy Gregory a fourth round pick in dorch Armstrong. They need some boost, they need some juice. They need a guy with a little bend at a little speed off the edge after losing Robert Quinn. And that's what Chasun can give you. My biggest concern with him is play strength, you know, just a little bit stronger. It's like he's a bad run player, but sometimes it's gonna struggle to set the

edge and things like that. But look, that's your guy at seventeen. I think we should all be perfectly fine with that. I definitely like that than the alternative of maybe an aj Terrell or Dryfon Diggs. Are you to gross Matos out of Pinn State there as well? But Dan, you call him an ascending player. Where's he ad on your board? And would you be happy if the Cowboys

selected Chase On with that seventeenth pick? I mean I would be happy for the Cowboys, Yeah, I mean because I think, uh, he's fourteen on my on my board, so getting him a seventeen And I mean the only thing missing from Dave's report was a social security number. I mean, he really he put it all together for you right there. I think the lack of production is a good point. You can count his career sacks on

one hand. Uh, he had nine and a half. And so it's it's something where you're banking on the trades. The medicals have to come back clean because, like Dave mentioned, the ACDL last year had had a banged up ankle this past year as well. So you know, I think that you're you're banking on the trades, You're banking on a guy that is on his way up. The trajectory of where you're getting this player is very appealing. Uh. And the fact that I think he's pretty far from

his football skilling, that's what he gets excited about. I mean he plays the second most important position on your roster. Um. I mean you have the number one position, well we think haveing number one position. Now you address that number two position, and uh, you know you're wow, Dan just throwing out the fire. He comes on the Draft show just really quickly and then just spits it. That's what

we expect out of you, mister Brugler. If two is still hanging there around like pick twelve, this is the Twitter is gonna get that. I see Twitter is gonna get real weird. I'm here for it, and I absolutely think that Twitter and the entire Cowboys nation will get weird. And we've got about ten minutes or so until we hear the commissioner and we officially get the Bengals on the clock. Coming up in the next ten minutes or so, we are the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Kyle Yeoman's,

Kevin Turner, Dame Brugler, David Hellman. We are here all night, two hundred and fifty five picks, all presented by Biller Light, our Draft day partner as always. And one of the fun things about this, guys is it's it's a crazy time. It really is. And we're not going to shine a light on on COVID nineteen because it's a it's a sad time and there's a lot of things that are

wrong right now. But you also get a unique opportunity being able to have every single player, every single prospect in their homes with their families and kind of surrounded by family and friends. You take all of the extra fluff, you take all of the money side out of it, and ultimately this is the draft in its purest form. It's exciting, it's nerve wracking at the same time, but overall, this is a draft that none of us are going to ever forget kind of Katie will start with you

go into what you expect tonight. You expect trades? Do you expect anything crazy to happen at least starting here in the next ten minutes. Well, the first thing I expect is to remodel my living room to the wood paneling that the Commissioner's going with. But I would also say that no, I really expect an outstanding number of trades,

especially in the back half of the draft. Teams looking to get back, teams looking to get more picks, and uh, you know, day two or Day three, I do think we're gonna get a lot of trade downs and things like that. So I think, you know, I think my over undergoing into the day was seven trades. Maybe that's uh. I don't even know how how that would rank on the average, But I'm expected a lot of trades, um

and you know, for for the first time. Uh, I mean, it seems like us there's a rush for the quarterbacks at the top of the draft, and that's not happening this year. I don't think anyone's gonna go up and go get two. Uh so I think that's very very interesting thing. Look, we're gonna get offensive lineman, baby, you like offensive lineman's And after night, the tackles are flying off the board. I don't know how many, Dane, I don't know how many of you mocked in the first round.

I know on mine I had seven offensive tackles going tonight plus Caesar Ruis, so eight out of the thirty two picks being offensive linemen. Same here. That's and then well the only tackle I didn't have that is still probably gonna go some more top fourty, top fifties Josh

Jones in Houston. So, uh, it's gonna be tackle very early, and there could be four, maybe even five offensive tackles off the board for the Cowboys pick, which again you're hoping for more offensive tackles push some of those other talents down the board to you at seventeen, which is gonna make it really interesting. But yeah, I mentioned before the storylines to this fact. Where does he go? Uh, you know, we know the first two picks, and then

you're we're on two. Go watch to see what happens there. And then I think you look at the trade action, We're gonna see a lot of trades, and then offensive tackles. We're gonna see a lot of offensive tackles. Four and the top ten, top eleven, and then there's gonna be that first wave of top four and we'renna have a second wave the next top four, and it's not gonna be too long before we hear those names. So to me, therese are kind of the main storylines I'm looking at today.

The name or two that might shock you to be taken in the first round. Um, I was, you know, just thinking about maybe that wide receiver group. I feel like maybe we talked about rubs, We talked about Judy and Cedee Lamb from Alabama and then Oklahoma Ceedee Lamb, Justin Jefferson from LSU, who might be that fifth wide receiver, sixth wide receiver that might sneak into the mix and

the back end of the first round. You know, I think you're look, I think the oper undrun receivers in the first round should be about five and a half. I think that we're gonna get five and then with whether or not that we get that sixth you mentioned the four with bugs Lamb, Judy Jefferson, and then I think either Iyuk or Mims Brandon Iuk at Arizona State and Denzel Mims at A Baylor, and then even Jalen Regor.

There's a few teams on every team, but a few teams in the last ten or twelve picks in the first round that are big fans of Jalen Reger. So there's a lot of interesting receivers in this class. When we know that, and a lot of teams are gonna say, hey, I took great about my options in the second or the third or the fourth, and so we're gonna see some teams passed on receiver or the first round. But we still there's too much talent that we're gonna see

these guys still go early. I think if we're looking for a surprise name, I think these running backs. You know that would surprise me if we see these running backs go early and somewhere in the first round, just because where are they gonna go. There's not many obvious landing spots for Baking Dobbins and going basically Jonathan Taylor, Clyde Edwards a layer In most years, I think all four of those guys belong in the first round and

they would go that high. Today's NFL where we are and I think just hold different the landing spots at the end of the first round. It makes it really tough to project those guys in the first round. But I think it'll be interesting to see who's that first running back rounded and where does he go did go in the first round? Do we get one, do we get two? So the running backs are really interesting in

this class. Well. You could also say something very similar about the tight end group as well, even with the success that some of the best tight ends have had in the NFL as of recently. You talk about the two Super Bowl teams, the forty nine Ers and the Chiefs have greg Or George Kittle and then also Travis kell see on the same side. But I think it's interesting that you don't hear as much hype around some of the tight ends that are going at least early

in this draft. Cold commats up there. I mean, other than that, really, it's it's kind of a very small list of tight ends that are getting any attention right now. And maybe we hear a tight ends name Cold tonight, maybe Cole commit at a Notre Dame. But even that seems like it would be a little bit of a surprise. I mean, I like cool Commet. Did I think he's

one of the thirty two best players in this draft. No, I think it'd be a little bit of a reach if Poule Commet ends up going in the first round. I think he's still a really good player, but more of a guy. You consider the top fifty early in the mid second round, and it's not the same extent as tight end. But I throw safety in there as well. I mean, I like Xavier McKinney, but I don't love him, and I knew him as more of an early second round pick. Now, could he go in the twenties or

even as high as seventeen. It's certainly possible. Cannot rule it out, but I think the second round's gonna be a sweet spot for these safeties, whether it's Jeremy Shin or Antoine Winfield or Kyle Dougger, And we can go one and on. There's a lot of interesting safeties in this group, but I don't know if any of them are slam dunk first round picks. Well, as we near about five minutes until we hear from the commissioner, it's time now to do a couple of predictions. We'll talk

about seventeen and then give a bold prediction. Dave will start with you. Who's your final pick to go to the Dallas Cowboys to pick seventeen. Let's assume their staying put. We're not captain trade down at least at the moment. Let's try and stay put here and predict what's happening at seventeen, and then also give me a bold prediction as well. Have to do both both at the same time, one or the one or the other first, doesn't matter. Picking the players not bold enough for you, jeez, not

even a little bit. Um okay, well, I mean I I don't remember exactly when it happened. It was before quarantine that it kind of clicked in my head that Caleb and Jason made a lot of sense. So I've been on that trade ever since. I'm not gonna hop off right before it comes into the station. Who knows if he'll be there, but if he's there, I really believe he will be the pick. If he is available, I think he's the seventeenth overall pick. Um. As far as a bold prediction, um, yeah, man, I wasn't ready

makes bold. Has it got to be for the first round? Nah? Yes, let's do first round so we can do the later ones tomorrow. Okay, I just um I have a gun. No, I gotta I got one because I've been just passing this around. So the Kansas City Chiefs, right, they're gonna be on team forty Burger. They already score a lot of points. They need a cornerback. There won't be any left by the time they pick. So my bold prediction is the Chiefs are gonna draft the first running back,

whether that's JK. Dobbins, whether that's DeAndre Swift. I also, you know, I've heard from well played sources that the Chiefs really like Clyde Edwards Hilaire, which maybe thirty two is a reach, but not that big of a reach. So I think the Chiefs draft are running back and make that offense even more dangerous than it already is. I'll go next, and I do kind of agree with Dave. Clyde would make so much sense. Hilaire from Clyde Edwards to Laire from LSU would be so fun in Kansas City.

Although a lot of players would be fun in Kansas City. I would say, for me, it's aj Terrell, the cornerback from Clemson. Just a little too much smoke. There hold too much concern on my end that Jason doesn't make it. My bold prediction is that after months of talking about quote tanking for Tuah and then not accomplishing it, the Miami Dolphins passed on to Tuah falls to the Chargers at six. That might not seem so bold now, and Justin Herbert will go at the top ten to a

team about in Florida, but not the Miami Dolphins. You can do the rest of the work yourselves. Context clues. It's the Jaguars. There you go, there, you go? All right, Dan, you got I'm going with Chasa on who I had in my final mock, and I don't know if he's going to make it, but I'm gonna say that it's gonna happen. That's my pick for the Cowboys. It's seventeen and then and in terms of a bold pick, I'm gonna go with Seattle is a you never go there

to do every single year? Actually do you do? Probably know they're gonna try and trade out of there, but if they stay put in the first round, you know two years ago for Penny last year's Lja Collier from TCU, like they're just a wild card every year. This year, I'm gonna say Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin. Uh. And honestly, if they did happen that at the moment he is drafted by the Seahawks, I think he'd be the best running back in the NFC West so and that's why I

think we would consider that if you're the Seahawks. That's my bold prediction for the night. Oh sorry, Kyle, Oh absolutely, you go ahead, Dave. The Seahawks are so good at finding running backs out of nowhere, like Carson um McKesson a couple of years ago, Like why don't they keep trying to draft running backs in the first round. It's a terrible idea for shod Penny two years ago. And I mean, John Schneider doesn't care. That's the thing. He's

gonna take you. And I mentioned this earlier. I'm gonna draft to the other three teams in that division are gonna be like, oh no, Jonathan Taylor, I think would do that to the Niners and the Rams and the cardin balals where you added in all the Suns to backfield with Russell Wilson and Jonathan Taylor. I think they'd be a lot of fun to walk guys. I will have to I gotta cut this off because we do have a big adouncement. Cincinnati Bengals are officially on the clock,

and Dave, I know this is your time to shine here. Man, You're an LSU alum, you got your championship, and now seemingly it's going to be Joseph Burrow as the first overall pick. What's going through your mind right now? But honestly, I found this out right before the draft. This is insane.

If Hill Burrow is the pick, which we are very confident he will be, LSU, which has been garbage at quarterback for the vast majority of the last like fifty years, will be tied for the most number one quarterback picks in the Super Bowl era with three, which I would never guess they would be up there with like Stanford and some of those other schools that reliably put out quarterbacks. You know, that doesn't say great things about like JaMarcus Russell,

but whatever. I'm very biased, but I think Joe's a franchise changer, man. I mean, not only does he have the talent, but he's got that in factor. He's very much like Dak Prescott in the way that he gets people to follow him. I don't think you can understate that enough. I think it's going to be a slam duck now. It makes a lot of sense. I mean, you look at Joe and the season that he had. I think that you might have concerns of, well, he only did it one year and everyone talks about that offense,

which was load and we all know that. But I think that the traits are all there. You look at it. He's just mobile enough. He throws with anticipation. That's something that you see. He's very good in the pocket, understanding you know where the rush is coming from. The accuracy is there, and it may not be uh, you know, great at a hundred different things, but he's just kind of really good at everything. And you know, he did enough.

I would be interested Dane if to Ah were one hundred percent healthy, do you think you know it would be a close grade right there or where? How do you think you could have that ranked? If it's to it getting hurt and had an outstanding season, you know how close is that at the top? It could be a consensus in terms of Joe Burrows the top guy. For me, I'm sold on Joe Burrow. He would be in my number one quarterback regardless it was fully healthier or not. But I don't think that would be the

consensus among teams run the league. I think there'd be several who would lean towards Tua and everything that he offers. Um. I just with with Joe Burrow. He whatever he did at LSU this past year, and I know people are going to harp on it was just the one year we could go back to his junior year stretch the final four games to play the last nineteen twenty games and he played in college. It's not even like he played an average game, or it's not even like he

played a negative bad game. He didn't even have an average game. I mean he was above average in every single game. And everything that he does well it translates to the next level. Talking about the confidence, just his ability to understand but everything where everything is on the field at all times, what's going on. He just has a great understanding a field general and everything that tails then as a passer, the decision making, the accuracy, the anticipation.

He's a surgeon out there. So that and just the possibility, the ability to navigate through pressure impressed me more than a lot of guys that we usually talked about. His first round caliber players. So Joe Burrow sold me, I think the band Goals are getting a big time player. And tell you what, the AFC North with those quarterbacks, you know, with Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield and Robins Burger he's healthy, and then now Joe Burrow, it's going

to make the AFC North a little more interesting. Fifty six hundred passing yards, sixty touchdowns, and over a seventy six completion percentage for Joe Burrow this past year. And I mean, and you guys mentioned all of it, and going up and down the scouting report, the accuracy, the mental process and just the pocket awareness that he has. It's all translated into the next level. But it's also

kind of fun to see a guy go home. I mean, he's an Ohio kid, he was mister Football Ohio and now he gets a chance to go and play for the Cincinnati Bengals. So this is gonna be fun to watch. And now the pick has not been in I know a couple of moments ago. It kind of scrolled past on the ticker got ahead of ourselves. The pick's been in for like ten days. It's ten days, you mean like two months. No, I mean you gotta wait and

see if somebody's gonna offer you something. But I think it became pretty clear at least yeah, ten days, two weeks ago. I mean, Schefter reported before the coverage started that Mike Brown sent him a nine jersey on Wednesday. So you know, I think that's about as clear as it can get. The running Yeah, yeah, he's running. I'm gonna I got one comment and then I promise I'll take my Homer hat off. I'm I'm bad. I'm in a bad position tonight because they're gonna there's gonna be

a five Bellshue picks. But I just want to say Joe Burrow was good in twenty eighteen. Okay, he was playing in a scheme that was not conducive to good quarterback play, and obviously he was much better in twenty nineteen. But anybody that thinks he's a one year wonder should go back and watch more tape. He was plenty good in twenty eighteen. He was just playing in a caveman offense. Also I think you include the context that he had

just transferred in. I mean, he was still getting used to the coaching staff, the offense around him, the playbook. I mean, he had never started before. So I've heard a lot of people say, well, you know it couldn't beat out Dwyne Haskins. Well, in practice setting, I mean Dwayne Haskins. Let's let's remember this guy through fifty touchdown last year for Ohio There a year or four for

Ohio State. It's not like he was a bumb and so in a practice setting, I can understand that Dwayne Haskins, that big arm and everything that he can do, would look a little bit better than Joe Burrow. But his junior year at at LSU it was a little rough early on, you know, thinking about what that Miami game and you know some of those early on games. But I think when you consider the context that he had just joined the program, you factor all that in and

then watch the trajectory throughout the course of the season. Now, the Alabama game wasn't great, but again towards the end, people forget he was a Fiesta Bowl MVP as a junior. To your point, Dave, I mean he did not have a bad year. Did he have a great year? No, But I mean watching his tape over the summer, I thought he was a fourth round pick. That's what I thought of him at that point. So that's not to say that, you know, he had this tremendous year as

to Junior, but he wasn't a bump either. Well. I also think like it's gonna be interesting, assuming, of course, at the Bengals go ahead and make this official in the next few minutes. Googles have had such bad luck the last few years in the first round, and Jonah Williams got hurt Bill Price, remember he got hurt. John Row three years ago has been a guy who's battled injury for a long time. It's been a while since the Bengals have really been able to stockpile their system.

And look, there's a reason they were the worst team in the league last year. It's a bad team and it may be a rough transition period for him. But the Bengals are an interesting team to watch throughout this draft, throughout this overall draft, because you know, they've got some needs that they could really they need a wide receiver weapon, they could use some offensive line help, and they could

use some linebacker help for sure. On defense. There's a lot that the Bengals can do to stack up and get that situation turned around a little bit up there in Cincinnati's so there'll be a fun team to watch. Obviously, they'll have you know, we picking tomorrow or be on as well well. And he kind of said it earlier this week. He said he's never been in a position where he's lost. He's always won, all the way up from high school, his prep even he was a winner.

And he's going to go into a tough situation, there's no doubt about it. Now the pick is in, so we're waiting on Commissioner Goodell too. I would say the stage, but it's more like stand up in his uh in his lobby or whatever you would call it, his loft in his house and delivering sweet. And it's the sweet basement. It's got the wood paneling and everything. Here's Roger get draft. The Cincinnati Bengals select Joe Burrow, quarterback LSU. There it

is Joe Burrow, officially a Cincinnati Bengal. The hometown kid is going home. He's the first overall pick out of LSU. The quarterback is going to Cincinnati and Dave, this is a proud moment for you. I mean, yeah, it is. It's it's cool. I you know, yeah, it's it's no, it's it's it's been really crazy. I mean, you know, professionally, like I think he's a great player, Stoked for him, stoke for the Bengals. Obviously, you can't one hundred percent

remove emotion from the equation. And I was higher on Joe Burrow than a lot of people just by nature being an LSU fan. But I could have never predicted this um Heisman Trophy, all those touchdowns, being the number one pick in the draft. It's it's pretty surreal. Especially I mean, if you know anything about LSU football, I never would have seemed that an LSU quarterback would be capable of all those things. So, uh yeah, I gotta I got a soft spot for Joey be and I'm

not afraid to admit it's a sorry Kazuh. If I told you in August h that Joe Burrow is going to be the number one pick the following April, what would your response have been. I would have said, great, So I need to be buying tickets to the National Title game. Uh yeah, I mean, you know, I thought LSU would be pretty good. I thought Joe would be a good player, but I mean they it surpassed even the biggest Homer's wildest expectations. Yeah, I think it's the

situation too. Like when you when you watch him, he was so fun to watch in that offense is so fun to watch. It's like elis you finally realized, oh, yeah, we needed to catch up with where football is going, and that's how we're gonna beat Alabama, like once they finally got with the time and stop sticking to what they you know which, and maybe that's something the Cowboys are going to start doing now with a new head coach and things like that as well. Bring it all

back to Dallas. That wasn't enough. That was that was professional there from Katie turning it around and saying, hey, new coaching staff, let's figure it out and let's play play some modern football. But now with all of this, it was funny. They showed a quick clip of of Joe Burrow in his house. He's in his living room just with his parents right next to him. He barely even cracked a smile. Guys, Like, we're talking about the mental toughness and kind of the leadership of this guy.

I know, like you said earlier, Dave, this is a top ten or it is going to be the top pick overall, and it doesn't matter. He could have been over the last couple of weeks, same thing. Not a surprise, but even that moment, that first overall moment, it's not too big for Joe Burrow. It's a cool customer man. Yeah. I couldn't believe that he cried at the Hydeman ceremony.

I didn't think he was capable of having emotions. So yeah, I mean he's, like I said, you know, being as close to the LSU program as I am, he's a different guy in terms of his mindset and his approach. Like I said, he reminds me a lot of Dak Prescott. If they could keep off the ground, fix that offensive line, I think they're gonna be able to do some stuff. Now. Of course, things getting interesting with the second overall pick.

They're also showing Edward Jeron and his entire coaching staff clapping along as well with the pick that was being made. But now you get to Washington and this is a spot in the draft where you would normally see Chase Young, a defensive end and edge rush were out of Ohio State. Is there any any reason we should be at least concerned or looking at maybe a trade here or something crazy going on instead of Chase Young. No, this is

this is gonna be Chase Young. And I mean, if you're the Redskins, you keep the phones open because you

never know. Could get a trade offer here. But I just don't think they're going to get the draft capital that it would take to trade away from a player who I mean I'm trying to be too hyperbolic here with Chase Young, but you think about all the pass rushers that have come out in recent years, with Miles Garrett the bossas that, we've had a lot of pass rushed talent at the top of the draft in recent years. Chase Young can be the best of all of them. I mean, he has all the talent and like he

won the DNA lottery. You look at a guy that has the size, the frame, the strength, athleticism, but he also works at it. I mean he understands how to use his hands, he understands how to set up blockers. So not only does he have the physical traits, but his football I Q, his work ethic, you put that all together, you have a special, special player. And look the Redskins, you they're they're the biggest needs on their team. Pass rushes not at the top, but you just don't

pass on pass on special. Chase Young is special. I'd be shocked if if there's any other pick other than the Redskins taking Young year so real. I'm sorry if you just said that, comparing him to Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, Miles Garrett, just in terms of how you had them graded, how do you think that would have shaken out? I know that's tough, Yeah, no it is, But I think Jay Young he would be at the top. I really do think. I think Nick Bosa is probably the rookie

year he had is gonna be tough to top. But I think when we look back those two players five years from now, I think we'll be looking back as Chase Young being the best or pro and I think Nick Bosa is awesome. I think he's gonna be a pro bowler. That's just how much I think Chase Young and his sky high skill well, and I know it wasn't just the Bosas and even Miles Garrett that we're kind of talked about in that same conversation with Chase Young.

I know Khalil Mack in the way that he kind of runs a defense and it kind of anchors down and forces offenses to kind of scheme around him. At least they've been in the conversation. Now the pick is in here for Washington, and if it's anything other than Chase Young, it's a surprise and it's gonna be nuts. But at the same time, this is one of the best edge rushers we've ever seen coming up through the last couple of years, even with some of those names

that were just mentioned. Dave, Yeah, no, I mean I I mean, yeah, it's boring because we've been talking about these guys for two months, but I think we all know what these first two picks are going to be. I'm I don't want to say I'm surprised, but I'm impressed to hear Dane say that he thinks Chase Young is much better than Nick Bosa, because Bosa was was very similar last year. I mean, the writing was on the wall for forever about how high he was gonna go.

He obviously, you know, turned in a defensive rookie of the year performance big part of the reason why the Niners defense helped get them to that Super Bowl. So to think Chase Young could be better than that is uh. One, it's impressive and two, if you're a Cowboys fan, it's scary thinking he could be in Washington for the next five to ten years. Three, if you're a pass rusher in high school, why aren't you going to Ohio State? Because they know how to turn out these guys on

a great point. And Nick Bosa was my top prospectum August to the draft last year. Chase Young was my top prospect from August to the draft this year. They ran gam both years ushers. Pretty impressive room they've got going there. At a Columbus he had eighteen sacks last year's seven hits, thirty one hurries. And this comes from a guy who was a consensus five star. As we are just about there waiting for Roger Goodell, and here's the commissioner. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Washington

Redskins select Chase Young, keepensive end, Ohio State. Chase Young, defensive end, Ohio State, second overall pick. No surprise there. Now we can get underway with the NFL Draft, because those two were certain those two were the ones we kind of knew about, and we've kind of even got to talk about it a little bit here. But now we finally get to look ahead and see exactly what's

going to happen. The Detroit Lions are on the clock, and this is where things could go haywire here, Dane, Oh question, this is where the chaos, the potential for chaos starts. And the Lions have made it no secret they would be perfectly fine trading back because again, they a defensive playmaker and that could be Derek Brown, that could be a spense like Jeffcuda. I think they'd be rely fine with any of those guys, and so they know they could fall back to five six and get

their guy. Now, if a team like Baxtonville comes calling and you're to move time, is that still appealing to a team like the Lions. So a lot of intrigue with his pick. The Lions have a general manager and a head cooat to you know there. I don't know. I maybe necessarily a hot seat, but it's a pretty warm seat. The Lions need to take a step forward here. They're going in the wrong direction They're in a tough division, so the Lions need to get a core playmaker here,

and I think it'll be on defense. But it's gonna be interesting to see which structure they go. I mean, it feels like, oh, Kuda makes a lot of sense given that they, you know, just traded Darius Slay and moving him to Philadelphia. But you know, you couldn't blame him for any of the other guys, whether it's Derek Brown or Simmons like you mentioned. You know, I, for one, going into it thought, hey, as Matthew Stafford starts to get old, it might be hard to go ahead and

look at quarterback. But just haven't really gotten that vibe that they would be very interested in going that direction. Me. I'm a big believer of if you're up there in the top five, if if it really checks out, then quarterback is where you should probably go. But you know, these other defensive players who are really really good players, it feels like, Okuda, that's what I'm boked there. I think that's a great fit for what they're trying to do, what they're trying to build, But it could be it

could be one of those other big names. And I think this is interesting with the Giants on the clock Miami. We've talked about being a hub for potential quarterback This is this is where we finally spice things up a little bit. This is pouring hot sauce on the draft. If it's my analogy, I'm going with there, guys, sorry, bringing hot sauce in the middle of the top five. I like that a lot, and you guys talked about it.

Jeff Okuda or excuse me, Isaiah Simmons. You've got plenty of options here, but there's also the option for a team to come in here and potentially take this pick away. You mentioned Jacksonville. I know they have at least questions around their quarterback. Dave made the joke a little bit earlier they going to roll out Gardner Minshew or is that actually what their strategy is going to be at

the quarterback position? Who do you see at least clamoring here to potentially move up and try and make a swamp as Kat's joke, not mine. I thought it was you who said, that's okay, that's we look alike. We both got the beard, the cornthine beard going. I mean, well, that's what I keep thinking about is like, I don't know, man, people talk about Detroit trying to get out of this pick.

It doesn't look like it's going to happen, Which makes sense because Detroit is in a situation where ownership and general manager came out and said, matt Patricia needs to impress if he wants to keep his job. So if that's the line you're going with, add some talent, stop trying to get out of that pick. And I mean certainly don't draft a quarterback while Matthew Stafford still has

gas in the tank. Um, I'm going to assume this is Jeffrey Okuda because again, if if you can't get out of that pick, I think that's the best course of action going forward. I know we're going to you know, we'll talk about the lines a little bit. I don't want to just take one step back. I'm not going to derail the whole night. But man, I just think about that Redskins defensive front all and obviously moving Ron

River in there. But you know last year spending that first round pick on Montes Sweat and then what they already have there with those Alabama guys and Theron Payne and Jonathan Allen. It's like, yeah, Ryan Kerrigan is still in the league, believe it or not, Like that is going to be a tough front seven. I don't know how well they're gonna cover back there. There's gonna be a tough front seven to contend with twice a year for the Cowboys. Second thought, maybe should we be talking

about tackle US seventeen or maybe offne reinforcements. Half joking here, half joking. That's a little scary for I think the majority of Cowboys nation. Now the pick is in. The Lions did not trade away, so we haven't seen movement yet. And here's the NFL Draft. The Detroit Lions select Jeff Okuda, defensive back Ohio State Jeffrey Okuda, DFW product down a South Grand Prairie High School and the second straight Ohio

State Buckeye off the board. And you guys said it a moment ago, if you're not going to get out of that pick, go get the best player available. He's obviously the best player available at that point. I think so. And like Casey said, Darius Slay now in Philadelphia, they need more help in the secondary, and so Jeff Ocuda to me, in a lot of ways, he's the prototype of position, size, length, speed, h he is. He was a five star at of high school. He lived up

to it in Columbus. And you know we talked about producing those pass rushers. How about this run Ohio State's been on with corners. Pretty impressive. So the pettigrees, they're not a surprise to see Jeff Acuta. High character kid too. Not surprised to see Jeff off the board here at number three. You take a look at Okuda's numbers and kind of what he meant to that Ohio State program overall.

Sorry to cut you off there, Katie Well, I say, look, he's got a situation where he a lot of opposing quarterbacks only had a quarterback rating of fifty two against him. The number one thing when I was watching Jeff Okud that just jumped out of me was this guy is so soothing to watch because he's just so smooth, great footwork, that's the easy hip turned, the fluid hips. Um. I believe he'd never give up more than fifty yards in a single game, which that's that's pretty nice. It's just

unbelievable balanced and just really good player. And it sure feels like he's the type of guy who can just kind of travel too if he needs too, against the Marti Cooper of the league or the Vante Adams of the league. You know, there's not many guys I think you do that very much anymore. You Yeah, you go have him travel with the number one wide receiver. You know, you don't see that as much as you used to. And this day and age oft thefl he feels like

the guy you could just match up with. Okay, well, we got Michael Thomas this week. Let's go put Okuda on him. He's sure really good player, so smooth, he could run with anyone. I think he's that good instincts. There's a lot to like about him. And once again Ohio State cranks out another good high end draft player. No surprise there. Well, and you kind of mentioned how

quick he is as well. Whenever you look at the combine that he had, he had top three numbers in the cornerback class in arm length, wingspan ten yards split. Now he was right on the outside of that in forty. His forty wasn't great, but then you got his vertical forty one inches, and then you've got a broad jump of eleven feet and three inches. So he was all over the place and all of those us and brought out at least the show the fact that he's not

just a coverage corner he's an athlete on the same token. Yeah, yeah, he absolutely is. And I think it's it's very interesting, like we're talking about c J. Henderson a lot. I did think the Lions might be a team that might try to get out of there. And if they got out of there, how far would that pushback Okuda? How far would that pushback Henderson? Then at cornerback too, and

him going obviously that high and not falling back. Next team that wants or needs a quarterback is going to a cornerback is going to be able to go get it,

and life would be CJ. Henderson. So I think not only does that you know, make sense as a great pick for the Lions and Jeff Okuda, but it also I think might have minor potentially might have had Cowboys rampifications just because we are on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show, and I think you're I think you're absolutely right, Katie Is I mean Henderson, I will be shocked if he's not the next cornerback taken. I think

everybody agrees that that's probably what's going to happen. And there's twelve thirteen picks that need to happen before the Cowboys are in range. And I just I don't like the odds that he laughs that long. And you know, maybe you're right and Jacksonville gets crazy and drafts a quarterback, but they let go of both of their starting cornerbacks in the last nine months. There's a lot of teams between here and there that could use a guy with

henderson skill set. That's why for a while it just hasn't seemed realistic that he would be there for you. It's gonna be tough to see even if any of those corners kind of fall, because there's a bunch of teams up in front that dude need some cornerback help. Now, with the Giants on the clock here we mentioned how things could get a little bit crazy. With the Lions. Of course, they didn't trade out of their pick. They

take Okuda. Now you've got Isaiah Simmons, who's a tantalizing pick and a prospect that's right there on the cusp. But you also have a chance to field some more offers here guy, And this is you know the Lions always didn't get the offer that they were looking for. Trade out of three will the Giants? And it's been well publicized. Dave Gettlman never has traded back in the first round, and couldn't this be the year that he will? He talked about he said publicly that he will consider it.

But will they get the offer that's going to entice them to move down? I think you stay put and take the tackle. You know, in order for your running back, your quarterback who you took in them first round the last two years, and the order of those guys that reach their potential, you need to upgrade the offensive line and this this draft has plenty of options to tackle. But why not stay put get the best one on your board? I think the bigger question is just which

one is the favorite? Received a text message Fine about four or four thirty this afternoon and it was just a little heads up like hey man, the Giants are trying to get out of there, and it's like, okay, it makes a lot of sense, and it says that relayed the information over to Dane. Dan goes, yeah, who wants to go up there? That's kind of and what

are we going up there for? You know, so if there's no really urgency for that quarterback too, and apparently there's not because the you know, the deal would have been done there, you're right now. I guess my next question would be who is your offensive tackle or offensive lineman one? Who is your Who's your pick here? Dan? If you're the GM, it's Jedrick Wills from Alabama. I think he's the best tackle that I scouted the entire year. Now, will Dave Gentelman and the Giants feel the same way,

I'm not so sure. I'm mock rist and Worths to the Giants earlier today, and it's it's it's tough to know how well what you know. There's certain things with each one he's tackle that you can really focus on and say, Okay, that's what we like about with me and the upside with works it's the athleticism for a big man. Uh, Andrew Thomas is kind of the battle tested guy of the group. And then to me, Jeddrick Wills.

He brings the power. He also has enough movement skills where you trust him in pass pro So, I mean, weren't these guys I think you can sell me on. But you know which one or the giants sold on it. That's that's obviously the question we're wrestling with right now. Both Tristan Worse and McKay Beckton both having very good combines and good weeks up in Indianapolis. That kind of caught the attention and at least put them in that conversation along with a guy like Jedrick Wills and Andrew Thomas,

who were on film some of the better players. I think I would agree with Dane in terms of Wills being my number one guy, But don't overlook kind of the expectations that are put around Andrew Thomas of Georgia and then Tristan Worse out of Iowa, and like the great Brian brought us who will join us tomorrow always says, it's it's a lot like your ice cream, which flavor you like? It's much. That's a great explanation of how

these tackles are kind of perceived. And of the two, I know, Wills and Works both, you know some people project him more as a guard than a tackle. What are your thoughts on that? Who's more likely to make that move? I think that both those guys would be tremendous guards. But I'm not moving them unless I have to, so I worked. I think people were worried about the arm length. Then he goes to combine thirty four inch arms.

And then with Wills, I think because he is such a dominant run blocker, that's where people trying to latch onto well if you put them pick him and put him inside. But I mean, I think both these guys, Wills, especially because he has just over thirty four inch arms. His arms are actually two inches shorter than Andrew Thomas, but they had the same exact wingspan, which is tells you how wide Jedrick Wills is so broad. And that's where I think that you know, people talking moving him

inside because of what he can do there. Both these guys I think would be tremendous guards and the guys that are long time pros similar as that Martin. But you know, I'm keeping them outside a tackle until they show me that they can't do it. So this is a this is gonna be an interesting pick for the

Giants which direction it decide to go? The pick is in a way continue well, I say, obviously this is a global program here or airing off throughout the world, but obviously is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com draft you as well. Just for a reference here, they picked up Cam Fleming in the off season. I don't think they want to throw Cam Fleming out there as a starting tackle. This kind of that gives you any reference of how badly they might need a tackle. No offense to King

Fleming in his family. Of course, You're you're wanting to protect a potential franchise quarterback and who you invested a top ten pick in last year, Daniel Jones. So there's some intrigue there. I think it really does come down to one of those four tackles. Princeton Worse, McKay Beckton, even Jedrick Wills. But I know going into the season, Andrew Thomas is one of those guys. Let's go to. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New York Giants

select Andrew Thomas. Tackled Georgia Andrew Thomas. I was just about to talk about Andrew Thomas, but the commissioner kind of shifted it toward him. Anyways, just a bully offensively. This is an individual that once you're locked on, and I remember watching his tape. He was one of the first guys that I watched his past year. He takes you for a ride as a defensive wind in because once he gets his mits onia, he's tough to lock

off of. And Andrew Thomas, Yeah, I think he's he's battle tested in the SEC and kind of like you mentioned, teams they like offensive linemen that can latch, run and sustain and this guy he he can do it now. My my issues with Andrew Thomas were some of the balance issues got to them at times in space. But I mean, he is going to be a long time

starter in this league in my opinion. The size, the length, he has, quickness with his punch even though he is so long the limb, he still keeps tight, keeps the inside that really helps him. He'll overset at times. That's where the balance issues come in. But this is this the player who's gonna be an immediate tackle, but he can also play right tackle if the Giants need him too. So I think that versatility, the fact that he had

four one starts the SEC. There's just tough holes. And Andrew Thomas bargue Dane that that might pay Ah might be safer than than Wills or worse, given that you know there are a high teams who may be were concerned about those two guys moving inside. Yeah, that's it. No, he is the safe pick, I think because he's battle tested in the SEC. He was at right tackle as a freshman All American. Isaiah Wynn goes to the NFL

as a first round draft pick. He moves to the left side, and he holds it down the last two years. He's durable. I think he just his clear packaging on the box. You know exactly what you're getting with Andrew Thomas. I don't think there's much projection here with with this player. He is a just a really good rumbucker, really good pass pro, just an overall solid off It's attack. I really hate how smart I think this pick is. I

guess I'd rather they draft Andrew Thomas. I was worried they're gonna draft Isaiah Simmons, which I think would have been a really good pick and a fun pick for them. But yeah, I mean, Andrew Thomas just strikes me as the classic light, very very high floor. Like I just I can't imagine this guy being a complete bust. Maybe he's not Tyrant Smith, but he's gonna be a good

starter for you for the foreseeable future. And that's a bummer, given how much of a shambles the Giants O line has been for most of the last five or six years. The weekend, I will step away and Jeff Kevinaugh and Brian brought Us will join the party. And one thing that we always hear about is Jeff Cavanall's you know, captain tradeedown and the idea of just talking about a tradedown.

I think this might be exhibit a of why sometimes just to say a traddown as an option is a bad thing to do, because the Giants probably would have loved to trade down. Guess what, no one wanted to call you. No one wanted to get up there at number four. And that's where I mean, there's no doubt about it that the Giants are probably would have considered getting out of there, you know, and sometimes it just

doesn't happen. So but a good pick and obviously filling a need helping out that offense a little bit with Jason Garrett and Mark Columbo over there on the offensive side of the football. And now I think to me, I would call this the most at least leading up to it, the most intriguing pick of the night. Obviously that could change is the night goes on. But to me, Miami at five, is it quarterback? Is it something else?

To me, this is probably the most anticipated pick of the night for maybe one of the most i would say, one of the most franchises in the NFL over the last twenty years. That is just kind of blah. They actually got a really intriguing night ahead of them. Absolutely, you get three first round picks and you stay put

at five. You don't have to lose any of those first round picks, yet you still get your pick, and you get your choice of the number two quarterback off the board, if that's where you want to go with this election. That's where kind of the predictions have lied with Miami over the course of at least the last couple of months. But even then, it's not a certain that they're gonna make a selection here. There's a chance

they trade this pick as well. Was the hashtag over the summer that the Dolphins fans start a tank for Tuah. That was something that has been going on for a long time now, and here we are, They're sitting on the clock at five and they have a shot to go get them, and it's It's just it's going to

be interesting with the injury situation. That's the Dolphins seem like they are pretty confident, and it's with three first round picks, I can understand why they have a chance to really have a facelift with with their offense or defense, which their in direction they want to go. They can get there, quote unquote franchise left tackle, they can get the quarterback, they can get a running back later on.

They have a chance to really change their offense. And I think it's going to start here with an offensive player. Is just which do they go? Quarterback? Do they go the offensive tackle? I think it's it's one of those two positions. Really just don't see them going away from to a tongue of viloa here. I mean, like you said, it's been kind of that whole mantra of two in the tank for twa which it ultimately ended up beating

Joe Burrows the first overall pick. But now you get a chance to to have your guy and have a chance to kind of go there, Katie. And look, if you're up there at the top five, you should take quarterback if you're if, because you may not get a chance again at eighteen and it may not be able to package up, so mat I think, so sorry, Katie, Well to me, I'm even rolling the dice a little more on quarter quarterback on an injury. If medicals scare me, I'm filling to roll the dice a little more on

that position than any other position. If you feel even remotely good about to his medicals, he's a franchise changer. I don't even think this should be hard, assuming assuming you feel okay, which like all of the reports are that he's he's looking good, he's looking fine. It's just it's too important, and oh my god, he's so good when he's healthy. He's so much fun to watch. He's so accurate, he's got a cannon, he's smart. If you feel even remotely good about the medicals, I don't see

why this is even a difficult decision. You got to trust David Hellman because he had to play against him as an LSU Tiger fan for four years or I guess three years, and he was terrified, didn't play to watch team had to play against him, and you kind of had that that feeling. I saw Nick Saban said this on some of the free draft coverage where he was like, I hope you're prnerback Alabama and it is two, which means for the first time since telling more, it's

kind of what we expected here, guys. That's uh yeah, that's the thing. It's the medicals. That's what we didn't know. Talent wise, two. It was always a top five talent. He does go in the top five. The ability that he brings is makes him worth the risk and the instincts that that's what really wollowed me when watching his film. He's so good, especially in the Arko game, and that's where he really shows his ability to quickly to read. He can process, gets the ball out and just like

Joe Burrow, he had ridiculous talent around him. Probably two of his receivers we'll be talking about later tonight being drafted in the first round and then next year two more, probably in the first round. But it still takes a point guard who can get the receivers the football, who

can move the chains. He just needs to take better care of his body in terms of you know, watch Russell Wilson, how he doesn't take those square hits, whether it's throwing the ball away, whether they're sliding, whatever it is. Ta has so much ability. Hopefully, hopefully he's able to stay on the field. The fl A, the league is better off with a healthy to him. Absolutely, I think, well, you see too, you'd like to see him handle the pressure a little bit better. Like you said, almost like

avoiding hits is almost can be a trait. I mean you said perfectly with Russell Wilson. The thing that I would say too, it was like, hey, you also have Josh Rosen as a backup if he does get hurt. Keep developing Josh Rosen or is Josh Rosen trade bait? That's another interesting name that sometimes gets forgotten. And now with the Chargers coming up next, what does that do to their plans? Because I feel like they probably had two a graded higher than Herbert. I could be wrong,

but is Herbert the next pick for the Chargers? There's another quarterback? Go now? The now we start to see the run go a little bit. I for one didn't think the Dolphins were going to do this, and I know a lot of people did, but I just didn't think they were gonna do it. They're so many questions and so many it's too it's too smart. You can't afford it. You can't afford to be the team. And that's what I was gonna say before Godell announced the pick.

Save Nick Saban went on and said, you know, I hope the Dolphins don't do the same thing we did when I was there and we got scared by Drew Brees's medicals and we let him go to New Orleans. Now, New Orleans is viewed as one of the five most successful franchises in the last twenty years, and the Dolphins have been a disaster for that entire stretch. It's just you can't afford to not do it. And if he's if he can't stay healthy and it doesn't work out,

that's a bummer. But you'd rather do that than watch him freaking lighted up for another franchise for the next fifteen years, well said, because you know, it's the greatest predictor of future injuries is past injuries. And you know there's there's so much going on with two us body and all that, but at the end of the day, you know, roll the dice on a guy that has the talent and you just kind of have to. You have to hope that he's able to stay healthy. Now

with two other first round picks. This is going to be interesting. I think you have to come away with the tackle with one of those picks, and then with the other one, you look at running back and maybe that's where you know, you feel comfortable getting a guy that is comfortable carrying the ball three hundred times a game or excuse me a season at the luffing game

three hundred times this season. Because you're taking press from your quarterback, you know you're you're getting them more opportunities to not just be in those passing situations where a pass rusher is able to tea off on you. So, like I said earlier, I think the Dolphins have a chance to facelift their offense. It's gonna start with two h they have to get a tackle, and then I think they look at running back as well. And they

played some competitive games. There's freason They had a roster that looked like it might be, you know, last in the league and might be had the number one pick, but they played pretty hard for for Brian Floor as a new head coach, so obviously added Byron Jones in the off season, they made some additions and then they'll have some a couple more picks tonight assuming they don't trade out of them. So twoa gone. That's been a

fun top five. Maybe big surprise and Andrew Thomas. But and now you have the Chargers on the clock and we could be staring down another quarterback. That's a good point, Katie, is the fact that we haven't had a ton of surprises so far. All five picks were made when we fought. Maybe the top five could have seen some trades and could have seen some nuttiness whenever it comes to some other teams, maybe trying to get a piece of the action of the top five. We didn't see that. Maybe

that's a product of the virtual draft. Of course, the stories will come out over time. But now you get the Chargers pick. And even then, when you think quarterback is a certain here, you've got a couple to choose from Jordan Love Justin Herbert. Where do they have those guys up on their board? Where could they go from here? Even if quarterback is the answer. And now, if you're thinking about kind of the way that this top five has worked out, think about how happy Carolina and the

Panthers are right now. Because there's a chance that Isaiah Simmons is sitting there for him at seven, just unless something crazy happens here with six, that's certainly possible. And I think we're looking here at six of the Chargers. They've been looking for that left tackle for a long time, and you know they signed Brian Bulago, He's more of a right tackle. So do they go Herbert here? Do

they go with left tackle? Obviously they have you know, three key options with McKay beck Beckton, Jedrick Wills and Tristan Worths. So do they go with franchise tackler? Were they convinced enough by where Justin Herbert was able to show them through the pre draft process? So some interesting choices here for the Chargers. Big Byrod Taylor is a quarterback that doesn't make sense for a team that might

be wanting to develop a guy like Justin Herbert. If you think he's a guy that might or they could use some time before you just throw him right in there. I know I have my questions about Justin Herbert quite frankly, I'm not crazy about Justin Herbert. But it's just the NFL quarterbacks have that talent and have that potential. They

likely go into top ten. But Tyrod Taylor not a bad guy to have on your roster if you are in a situation to take a guy who who just had some question marks, as Justin Herbert from Oregon does. And I think with quarterback here it could go either way because who's gonna excites you more? Jordan love Justin Herbert for a team that's also looking to kind of get their fan base excited. This is a team that struggled a little bit ever since the move from San Diego.

They're opening up a new stadium. Of course it is going to be shared with the Los Angeles Rams. But there's kind of that that marketing aspect to it too. We're all adults here, we all know that football is a business. At the same time, you kind of got to throw that marketing aspect in it. But you want to win football games. So who's gonna win football games for you? But is it also going to be the

right pick for your fans? Yeah? The Chargers are just they're they're tough to figure out because they've look you mentioned they're in LA and there's just no bus on the Chargers as as a franchise, and so you don't make a pick based off of marketing, based off of money, You make the pick based off what's going to help point before they get off because the commissioner is up with the six pick. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

the Los Angeles Chargers select Justin Herbert, quarterback Oregon. Justin Herbert, the quarterback out of Oregon. Sorry to cut you off there a game, but the pick is in and they made it is gonna be Herbert the new quarterback for the Chargers. That's and that's interesting that, you know, because we always wondered, okay, if is it as simple as the Chargers are going to draft the quarterback that the

Dolphins don't And that's how it played out. And I think it probably played out if these two picks were swapped and the offense went with Herbert, I think the Chargers would have went with the two of us. So a really interesting back to back picks here. You know, we thought about, Okay, what would happen if these guys fell out of the top six. They don't. Neither of them do. And so for a lot of these teams that are picking in the back half of the top ten and the teams this is a good sign to

see the quarterbacks come off the board. Justin Herbert. He's a guy that on paper he's got everything. He's six six, two hundred and forty pounds. He's a four to six athlete. Most you know guys that are that side six six, two forty they're kind of awkward as athletes. Not Justin Herbert. He is a really good athlete. Smart, four point one GPA student or again won the academic his and coming off a senior year where they won the Pac twelve, they won the Rose Bowl. And this is a player

has all the trades the big time. He's a really smart player, but just seems like there's something missing from his evaluation. I think a big part of that is when the pressures getting down on him, he kind of makes some ill advised decisions that ars own at tape really stands out to me. So I like Justin Herbert.

I don't love him. There's something missing from his evaluation, but he has played a lot of football, and I think he's stepping into a situation where Kyte, you mentioned they've got a bridge quarterback right there where it with Tyrod Taylor. They don't have to throw out Herbert from day one. But I think at some point during his rookie season, we're gonna see Herbert on the field and as a starter for the Chargers. I mean you said

it too, like the measurables there. I mean, he's the guy who actually can throw the football over that mountain over there, like Uncle Rico. Like you have questions about his accuracy, very frustrating sometimes on some short throws you'd see on tape, we're very frustrating. I think he if you look at him and Burrow, the way they handle being pressured in the pocket to me polar opposites. I didn't think Herbert handled pressure very well while inside the pocket.

Has the potential though, and this NFL to be an RPO machine as a guy who can't run on him for being almost too hundred and fifty pounds, you know too, and being six foot six, like he can't run. He ball security a bit of an issue. Had had a

ton of fumbles. I just yea. You always, it felt like more times than not watching justin Herbert, either live or on tape, you just we're always going question mark, question mark, question mark, And at the quarterback position you really wanted to be exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. It was just always question mark with him. But I understand how you're talking about marketing though, and no buzz in La. You said you don't make a pick for marketing,

but do you make a trade for marketing? Okay, they could have traded up in front of Miami and got to a TWA would have been a huge buzz in LA and that fan base. That would have been a huge buzz. You don't think an Oregon native who played for Oregon and grew up a season ticket holder for the team he ultimate played college for could have some success over on the West coast little bit? You don't think so in terms of the buzz. But I just think two is a a more exciting player, a more

of a household name. Uh. They've got an outstanding Polynesian fan base from years of great players at USC that we've seen over the years. I think that's two would have been the guy, uh maybe more so than anyone else in this year's draft to bring a buzz to that fan base. Maybe bring some guys over from uh you know who may be like, oh, he's I'm done with being Raiders fan, you know, or or you know,

I don't really like what the Rams are doing. You know, I don't know, I don't even know how Californians think. To be honest, I don't know. I felt like two would have been. That's that's your buzz buzz meter guy right there, that's a good point. Go for it, Dave. Let's well, let's talk about and the pick is in,

so I'm sure Goodell is gonna cut me off. But I think every mock in the world has mocked Derek Brown or Isaiah Simmons to the Panthers at seven, and they're sitting here with a choice of either of them. And I don't know how many people thought that was a slam dunk. So I'm very curious to see to which of these two guys they like more. I assume it would be one of the two. Well, and if they think about it here, if one of those guys fall,

then you get eight and you have the Cardinals. That's a team that's been very vocal about wanting to trade out of their pick. It's it's not certain that Isaiah Simmons is the guy here. Of course, Luke Keikley did retire. There's a chance that it could be, Like you said, Derek Brown, you can maybe even throw maybe a Javon Kinlaw in there depending on where he is. They need a defensive tackle, no doubt about it. But even though Simmons is sitting right there, you can't necessarily think that

that's automatically the pick. But I agree with you. I think it's one of those two guys. I think it's Brown or Simmons, but it could go either way depending on how the board lies for those guys. Look at it. Matt Rule coming in, He's looking to rebuild a roster his way, and I think there's a good chance he does start in the trenches, and that would lead you to leave the turnround of the pick. But I see Simmons the defensive planemaker, potent chel that he has. He's

a dynamic athlete. I think he's really going to appeal to head coach like Matt Rules. So this is gonna be interesting. I think I agree with Dave. I think it comes down to those two players. I had leaned I gave him Simmons and that I would have been surprised. I have dirt go for it, Katie, Is that real? Quickly? I have Derek Brown graded higher than Isaiah Simmons. For me, that's my pick. I have him graded higher than Simmons. I have Germans higher than Brown, but kind of thinking

of the way that Matt Rule thinks now. I grew up in Waco, I was around the Baylor program last year whenever Baylor was kind of in the middle of that rise. He loves to build around some big, meaty defensive tackles. He's done it ever since his time at Temple. He moved on the Baylor had Phil Snow with him and both stops. Now he has him as a defensive

coordinator at or excuse me, at Carolina as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Derek Brown's the pick here, just solely based off of what Matt Rule has done in the past. Even though I do have Isaiah Simmons as a bigger at least a better prospect on my board. It just kind of depends on the fit in the ice cream flavor that Matt Rule and company kind of have in mind here. I like Derek Brown, I really do.

I just if you're gonna draft the defensive tackle in the top seven picked, he needs to give me some type of pass rush value. And that's where I struggle with Derek Brown a little bit. As much as I like I think he's a really good player. I just it would be hard for me to draft him over a playmaker like Isaiah Simmons or some of these other guys. But kind of, you know, talking we are about Matt Rule and what he will prioritize in terms of his rebuild of this Panthers team, it would make a lot

of sense. Still waiting on Roger Goodell to finally give the pick. The pick has been in here for a couple of moments. It's the Panthers, the Cardinals, the Jaguars, the Browns to round out the top ten, followed by the Jets, Raiders, forty nine, Ers, Buccaneers, Broncos to round out the top fifteen. As we are seven or excuse me, six picks down, about to have the seventh pick here in just a moment. So far, it's pretty much been chalk.

I'm looking at some of the mock drafts that the Draft Show has done, the one that the live drop mock draft that we ended up doing a little bit earlier, has everybody except for Isaiah Simmons picked right. So far. We had Simmons going to the Giants at four, and of course Andrew Thomas was that pick the offensive tackle, the only offensive tackle as here's Roger Goodell. With the seventh pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Carolina Panther

select Derek Brown, defensive tackle covering defensive tackle. Derek Brown out of Auburn. They pass up on Isaiah Simmons. Dan you said, that's gonna be tough to do. Kind of hurts me a little bit because as a guy who's kind of rooting for Matt Rule, I understand why he went with Brown here based off of his past, and they still get a great player. A man passing on Simmons must have been to Yeah, And like Derek Brown, there is so much to book about him, both as

a player and as a person. He came back first year, he would have been a first trod pick last year. He comes back for a senior year and he was a big part of our success this year. And you know, I watched in that Iron Bowl tape. That's what really when I think of Derek Brown, that's what I think of the fourth quarter. Most three d and twenty five pounders, they're gas, they're done. Derek Brown, He's still going full go. The motor is not quitting. He is making effort play

after effort play. So Derek Brown has the character, he has the explosiveness both our body and lower body, where I think he fits in a lot of ways exactly what Matt Rule is looking for. But like I said, this is a player that's ever had more than four and a half sacks in a single season. And that's

what bothers me a little bit about Derek Brown. But I understand when we talked about it, why Matt Rule would go this direction type of pick where you're kind of driving in the right lane of a five way, a five lane highway. We're gonna get there, We're gonna get there safely, and surely I feel like it's got to contribute. But what this does to me Arizona is a team I'm fascinated with because of my admiration for

some reason of Cliff Kingsbury. I don't know why. I've just always been fascinated with the gay Maybe it's just the years of crazy offense at Texas Tech. I've just always enjoyed pulling for Cliff Kingsbury. They're so fun with Kyler now very fun here. Now those wide receivers that we've talked about, if you're a team who's got your eyes set on one of those, guy, Maybe you want to call up to Arizona and see what's up, because with Andrew Thomas being the only offensive tackle that's gone

so far, tackle would make sense. I'm sure they like Jedrick Wills. I'm sure they like Tristan Worf's. I'm sure they also like Isaiah Simmons a little bit on defense. So very interesting to see what the Cardinals might be thinking here at pick eight. And you know, quite honestly, though, you can maybe get some value by moving back now as we've seen officive tackles maybe fall just a little bit,

only one taken in the top seven picks. While and with the trade possibility here for Arizona, who would you think they could hone in on here? Because Simmons is still on the board. That's the at least I believe across the board right now with all of us, that's probably the best player available. But is that the type of player that you would see having some success in Arizona.

It's interesting with it now, you go ahead. I say it's interesting with the Cardinals because you know they the first round a couple of years ago when they drafted a hybrid linebacker, Hassan Redick, who hasn't worked out, So you know, Isaiah Simmons is kind of another hybrid linebacker who you know, in order for him to reach his full potential, you better understand how to use his strengths. And that's I'm not sure every defensive coordinator is going

to be able to do that. This this pick with the Cardinals, you look off at the tackle that they need help at right tackles, So that makes a lot of sense if they want to keep them get the offensive tackle train back on track. So Isaiah Simmons is really going to be the interesting name now now that two is off the board. Isaiah Simmons to me is that they need to watch at one that is not gonna fit perfectly with every team. But I just don't

know how you can pass on the talent. I'll tell you how, Dan, And that's like I'm just gonna I'm gonna flaunt or flout draft rules right in the face because Isaiah Simmons is probably the best player left on most people's boards. But Arizona is not going anywhere if Kyler Murray is running for his life, and that is my goal My goal is protecting my small statured cornerback who now has all these awesome skill players. We're doing the draft las year on day three even going or

is Arizona ever gonna draft a quarterback? I mean an offensive lineman. Is Goodell about to do it? He didn't do it here. It's Isaiah Simmons. Oh, it is Isaiah Simmons. I didn't hear anything from from our producer, at least in in terms of Roger Goodell coming up, but it is Isaiah Simmons. The Arizona Cardinals do go with the Clemson product. And I think this is a value pick if ever had one at eight. Still haven't seen a trade in the first eight picks, but man, that's a

That's an entertaining selection, no doubt about it. Interesting and Alas Simmons again, I think you need a creative defensive coordinator who will think outside the box, who understands that the key Isaias Simmons, being of the eighth of roll pick is the fertility is the fact that he can

do so many things for you. That he can be a safety, that he can line up as an edge rusher, that he could be outside back, he can cover he do all these things and he can manipulate what the offense is trying to do, and so speed is outstanding. It's it's kind of funny to see. Uh, you know the Cardinals, like I'd mentioned, they drafted Hassan red a couple of years ago, couldn't figure out how to best

use him. Now they're going to draft Isiah Simmons. I just hope they don't break their flashy new toy guy who is a lot of fun to watch, and they need to pay attention to how Brett Nnables and Clemson used him and then try to try to replicate that in Arizona. The point I was making real quick, I know, Dave, I'm sorry right to earliers, like remember Day three last year and you're begging the Cardinals, will you take an

offensive environment? If you glossed over any Arizona Cardinals game last year or rather to watch a red zone or sitting down and watching the Cardinals play, you would just see an exhausted Kyler Murray because he's been running for his life all game long. Maybe they can, you know,

attack that need later on in the draft. You know, with Simmons, he's very fun matchups coming our way in the NFC West, to see how Kyl Shanahan game plans for a guy like Isaiah Simmons, and to see if Isaiah Simmons and you know, spying or Russell Wilson or you know, things like that. So the pick makes sense. It's just not what I wanted to see that team do because I don't think we've gotten the chance to see Kyler get a chance to fly yet. That's a

good thing. I'm gonna spoil this. I'm gonna spoil this for you guys. I mean, obviously they could trade, things could change, but as it stands right now, thanks to the DeAndre Hopkins trade, the Cardinals don't pick again until seventy two, so they're down there in the third round before they get another shot at this. And look, I mean, I think the world of Isaiah Simmons. I was gonna say I wish Todd Bowles was still the DC in Arizona because I think he could come up with a

few fun ways to use him. But I just think it would have been start to get a guy who can protect Kyler Murraus. I mean, Jedrick Wills, Tristan Worth's you could you they're each the best tackle in this class and they're still available at eight. That's pretty good value too. It's go for a k I'll be quick. It's kind of similar to the same discussion we had about the Giants at pick four. Hey, you drafted Sake one Barkley Daniels, Joe Tie, Let's do something for him.

Hey drafted Kyler Murray high. Let's see if we can do something for him. So they got they have to attack that that need, you know at some point in the draft. Go ahead, Well, I think this is kind of working out in favor of maybe even some of those teams that are looking for a wide receiver or an offensive tackle. Right now, you've got one of those offensive tackles off the board through the first eight picks. The Browns, who are sitting at ten are gonna most

likely have their pick of an offensive tackle. The Jaguars at nine, where are they gonna go? Of course, this is a scary pick for Cowboys fans because they need some secondary helps, more specifically at the cornerback spot. This is one popular spot that C. J. Henderson's been mocked too. But the way that things are kind of working out and at least being laid out on the board at the moment, there's still a lot of defensive talent and there's still a lot of offensive tackle talent that could

go before the Cowboys even pick at seventeen. That leads some wide receivers, That leaves some secondary players that could eventually be there. The way things are kind of working out, it's in favor of what Dallas could want at least up in front of them and just being a jumbled mess. Jacksonville sitting here at nine, they're a very interesting team that we've talked about how they're in a spot where they need to get better a lot of different spots.

They go several different positions here, but they need to get better pretty quickly for the head coach, for the general manager to keep their jobs, so to go. With a playmaking defensive tackle, Kin Long going know they like quite a bit do they offensive tackle? They've done some work on these tackles. Wouldn't be surprised that that was maybe a surprise pack here. CJ. Henderson is a player that you know, you look at the cornerback depth chart

Jacksonville two years ago, it was a strength. One of the best cornerbacks depth charts in the league now, it's one of the worst with several replacement level players at the top. CJ. Henderson I think would come in. I don't think it'd take them very long to ascend to be the top point corner on that team. To go for it. Katie Well, as I said, I just think that makes a lot of sense, especially for a team

that's rebuilding. I'd be interested to see what their pick would be if maybe maybe Herbert was still on the board. But that's the thing that makes the most sense. I mean, it's full rebuild time right now. Who's your who's your highest graded player for them? And that's kind of where I think that that pick needs to be. So well, everybother interesting team. They need defensive tackle, they need safety.

Each one of those they could potentially have a chance at a little bit later on in the first round. Of course, they pick at twenty. You could say maybe Javon Kinlaw could make it all the way to pick twenty,

even if they did like him a lot. If they think that they can have a chance to maybe snag him a little bit later in the first round, they may pass up on him here and go with a guy like C. J. Henderson who obviously won't be around by pick twenty, because if he's there at seventeen, then all of a sudden, then I think a certain team in at least Frisco Dallas area would probably select c. J. Henderson.

But I'm just saying, at least off of the value pick, it just seems like corner would be the spot to go here. Think it just it makes so much sense when you can say, you know, they shipped Alan Ramsey out of town, they got rid of A. J. Bouier, and again C. J. Henderson is an elite prospect like

cornerback number two doesn't typically last very long. It just seems like if they're not gonna do something totally crazy and all of the viable quarterbacks are off the board anyway, it just seems like it makes way too much sense. You say, Jordan Loves not a viable quarterback, not at nine overall, I'll know, I believe we haven't seen a trade yet. That's been a big surprise so far. Now I think here the next two picks, you know, maybe we could Cleveland being one of the main ones, but

and so far only one tackles off the board. If you're Cleveland at ten, we know they need a left tackle. It'd be pretty tough to trade away from one of these tackles that is still available for them. Got that up, Go for it, Katie Well, I just say I feel it's just gonna be real difficult for me to take Jacksonville seriously next week next year with Gardner Minshew is kind of there what they're gonna go with, you know, no offense to Gardner in the magic that he had

for about a month last year. It's just it doesn't feel like a team that's gonna be trying real hard to compete next year. Maybe that's offensive. I think that's a great, great point. But here's the pick from Roger Goodell. The Jacksonville Jaguars pick pat number nine. Let's go to the commissioner. Keep it up. With the ninth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Jacksonville Jaguars select c J. Henderson, defensive back Florida. Ce J Henderson, the defensive back out

of Florida. That's a heartbreaker for Yallas Cowboys fans. That's your number two safety on the board behind Jeffrey o'cuda. He's a guy that you really wanted to maybe slip, but we all kind of knew realistically that was going to be out of reach. It is officially out of reach. Henderson selected by the Jaguars here at the ninth overall slot. And Dave, this is the pick that you made in our live mock that we had a couple of weeks ago on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. So

it's not super surprising, but it still hurts nonetheless. Oh, I'm not trying to be mean, but like, would you call it a heartbreaker if Kylie Jenner turned you down for a date? It's I mean, this is just this is such a no brainer that it couldn't possibly be heartbreaking when you factor in his tape with the fact that he's six one two oh four and ran a

four to three nine at the combine. As soon as he ran that four three nine, and I know forties aren't everything, but the minute he did that, I was like, Oh, there's just no way in hell this guy's gonna be there at seventeen. It's not possible, And sure enough it turned out to be right. It sucks for the Cowboys, but I just don't think it was ever realistic. He's star too talented to slip that far, and we talked

about Jacksonville's needs at cornerback. It just made way too much sense imagery of Kyle going up to Kylie Jenner and saying, Hey, do you have the draft? My man? My man does not lack for confidence. So I know that he would. I know that he would, but yeah you would. Yeah, you feel like there's kind of I've got the Bieber haircut going because there's no barber shops open at the moment, So I think I wouldn't stand

a chance regardless. One thing I say about him tackling his question mark how much does he like to tackle? And I can't get out of my head that Bill Belichick and Nick Sagan saving documentary that aired on HBO a few months back, where they're both asked, Hey, what's the number one thing that matters to you when you're look at the prospect like Canny tackle that's the number one thing. And you just don't always see him want

to tackle. That's the problem. There's a difference in not being able to tackle and not really wanting to tackle, and sometimes you ask the willingness questions. Yeah, yeah, a little bit there as well. But I do think we might have a little potential here for some trade action with Cleveland up at ten day, and I remember you were kind of calling calling this or throwing this out there a few weeks back. This could be a spot

where Cleveland might want to get out of there. My question is, we haven't seen the run on tackles go yet. Could cornerback that run began? You know, at some point maybe teams start getting antsy and moving up to get a corner that they might like. You also got to talk about wide receiver at the same time. All these great wide receivers are still on the board. Now, we kind of expected that at least to happen early on.

Was maybe a wide receiver run here in the early or the middle parts of this second round or this first round rather, but I think offensive tackles where Cleveland has to go here. Guys, whether it's a Wills or a worse, both of those guys still kind of on the board. And you can even throw McKay Beckton in there. To day. The question was if Isaiah Simmons were still on the board. Here's the commissioner. Thank you, Fletcher. We are so happy to see that you're home and doing well.

We're proproud. We're very proud to support you and Saint Jude in the fight and childhood cancer. And we're all in your corner, Fletcher, go get him. So I have the Browns pick. With the tenth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jedrick Wills, tackle Alabama. I hope you'd like if Edrick Wills out of Alabama the second offensive tackle on the board. Sorry to cut you off. The their day, the Browns drive to the

best offensive tackle on the yah. I think the big question with him again playing right tackle at Alabama in high school, can he make that transition to the left side exactly what the Browns need. They signed Conklin from agency, who is been the right tackle most of his pro career, and so that's where he's gonna play in Cleveland. Jedrick Wills, it's there's a projection to from on left side, but I think he's all the talented do it. I think

that he was top five player on my board. In my opinion, I think the Browns is drafted the best tackle in this draft. They're a little fist pump in there, Dane. We know you're happy now out of the top ten picks, there hasn't been any shifting. There have been no trade so far, and really it's almost been chalk. It's kind of what we expected. There hasn't been a whole lot of craziness. I think the next ten picks that could

pick up a little bit. Now, if we're going off of some of the mock drafts, this is where the hy receiver sweet spot is. You've got Cduam, Jerry Judy, Henry Rubs the third all right here, the Jets, the Raiders, the forty nine Ers, Buccaneers, Broncos. The next five picks could really use some wide receiver help, but they could also use some offensive line help. Some of those tackles are still available. And then you also got some of

the better defenders on the on the board here as well. Guys, the Jets, I'd feel pretty good about, you know, Worf's the idea of getting Worf's at pick eleven. I know the dude to wide receiver help that they do have to help Sam Donald out, but you know they did Advershod Perriman, which is not like, hey, you know, but it's a little bit of help at wide receiver. After losing Robbie Anderson. But you know, Tristan Worf's, I think

is a pretty good name. If I was the Jets or the Browns and you're gonna tell me, Okay Wills or Worf's, we're gonna be there, you know, might make a little sense to to go ahead and pull the trigger. So I think that's a pick that makes the most sense to me. I Hey, I'm gonna plug in my computer and charge it up and also refill my diet PEPSI I'll be I'll be bag plug there. Nice plug now.

Of course, with the Jets also kind of needing some offensive line help, like like Katie was just saying, how big would that be for Dallas, the fact that maybe the wide receivers are still on the board here if they end up with an offensive tackle. I don't want to speak it into existence because I don't want to get my hopes up. We're still we're too far away, We're too far away from pick seventeen for me to be thinking about a Jerry Judy or CD Lamb slide.

That would be um way too convenient. Especially you know, Denver's still still on the board. Oakland or not Oakland, Las Vegas is still on the board. There's way too many landing spots for those guys to get excited. Hey, but whether no matter what, it is the griddle of Team forty Burgers starting to heat up a little bit. It's starting No, I don't know. I'm just saying now one thing I was just reminded of. It's not just us here on this stream. We've also got some inside looks.

We've got the Jerry Jones war room cam that we can go into, We've got Mike McCarthy's war room cam, and will continue to look through a couple of those as we take a look inside right now as some of the deals and the wheeling and dealing could potentially be going on here now. Of course Team Trade Down wouldn't be too happy about it, but there's some spots up here. You could potentially look at Jerry looking pretty settled right now in his very comfy and very pristine

looking war room inside his house. But I think there's options here when it comes to the Cowboys. Now you're starting to look at some of those potential prospects one already off the board and C. J. Henderson. But these are guys that you at least had to do your due diligence on in the middle of the draft process. And however, the next six picks go, that's gonna be huge at how things are going to turn out at seventeen.

Let's when you look at the next few picks, the Jets, I'd be pretty surprised they don't book tackle here to protect Sam Darnold. And I think it'd be tempting to go with one of the receivers, especially none of them off the board yet, but I think it's more likely to tackle. And then you know, I think that's when we start talking about these receivers with the Raiders. I think the Broncos are still in play a clause to

make a move up. So it still surprised we haven't seen any trade action, but it's it's been pretty much chalk so far. But it just saw come across my timeline. This is the first time there hasn't been a trade in the top ten since twenty fifteen out You can't tell me. I have to believe. I don't want to say they're scared, but I just think you know, you're talking about an incomplete data set. You know, the whole

process got turned on its head by COVID nineteen. I think a lot of these teams are like, man, let's just let's just try to be smart and safe, and we can get crazy when we when it's easier to do so, you know. And that's not to say there won't be a trade in the first round, but at least while these blue chip players are going off the board, people are like, ah, maybe maybe let's wait for a

more opportune time to try to get nuts. Well. I think that's a good point because even going into it, we were asking the question, how tough is it going to end up being to make a trade, to get on the phone and to try and at least pull the trigger on some of these deals. Especially, I don't think the communication between teams would be necessarily the hard part. It might be the communication between your own organization and

having everyone in separate rooms. You're not in that war room where you can kind of have that back to back conversation and say, hey, let's go up and get a guy here, or hey, I like this guy, we don't have a chance to get him at seventeen, let's go make a trade. There's plenty of those those conversations that happen in a war room, they may not happen as organically as we normally would think, at least in the middle of a virtual reality in which we live

in right now. For the sake of conversation, any name, if you're at seventeen, any name that jumps out at you that would make you want to get on the horn to maybe move up to eleven or twelve. Oh yeah, ceedee lamb. But I can't do it, man. I need I need these picks, and and I feel good about who's still there with what you know, six picks to go. How bad do you want Chase On? I mean, I'd be happy to draft Chase On, but I don't need to trade up for him, Okay, with Terrell or digs

see if you stay put? Okay, is is the right word? I'd be Okay, I'm not gonna be celebrating, but I'm fine with that. Well, and the pick gets in here for the Jets, by the way, go for it, Katie. We're still in the range where you'd have to give up your second to move up this far. Um. Maybe we can rehash this in or maybe we'll open up the discussion again in a minute to where you get to the conversation, you can get to thirteen probably for like a third round pick, and we know San Francisco

doesn't want to keep that pick. But it's I mean, I don't I don't know, man, this receiver class is so loaded. How am I getting rid of a guy? We'll think about it this way, Dave. If the offensive tackle is where the Jets end up going here at pick eleven, then that guarantees that either Ceedee Lamb or Jerry Judy are going to be there at thirteen. Would you trade a third round pick to go get Jerry Judy or Ceedee Lamb? Oh? Because the receiver class is

deep and I need picks. I need players, y'all. Like this team isn't one player away? Dave. Yeah, I said it's just for the sake of discussion. I know, no, But like I can feel y'all, I can feel y'all pushing me toward the edge. You're trying to get me to jump off. Well, who are you team forty Burger? Are you captain? Trade down? Where are you happening here?

I'm team responsible drafting most of all. That's my number one priority here is Roger Goodell with the eleventh pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft the New York Jets. Flack Macai Beckton Tackleuisville Wow McKay. Beckton, tackle of Louisville, is the pick at pick eleven for the New York Jets. The wide receivers are still on the board here, Dave, I say, Kyle, there's a lot of land mines left to navigate. Man. I like pushing you to the edge. I want you to don't want you to come. I'm

getting Nancy. Yeah, Beck Then, I don't think there's a big surprise here. Just six seven and a half three hundred and sixty five pounds. He has the most upside of this group of tackles. Just he benefits from the planet three. There's so many people on this planet that are I can move like that at that length. Um, I feel really feel good for us. Sam Darnell, he's finally gets protection, uh be able to help him keep

him time to throw the ball down the field. So not a surprise, as he becked in here A little surprised that Tristan Worse is going to be the fourth cool drafted among this group. I don't think it's to wait very long. I don't think he's gonna get past Tampa at fourteen at the latest. But now this is where we start to see the run on receivers. I think it's starting here with Las Vegas and then with

San Francisco at thirteen. A good chance we see two receivers here if as long as they don't trade it out. Fuked a lot about Atlanta at sixteen, Denver at fifteen. Teams who might want to move up. You know, that's a teams to keep an eye on if if there were to be some trade action right there. With Beckton, it's pretty incredible watching him on tape. You just don't see many guys who are that big move that well. It's kind of a freak of nature man to be

that huge, you know. You think the bigger guys that I was thinking, like, oh, the Orlando Brown, well he couldn't move very well. Ended up being a solid player too. But McKay beck Dion can actually bend a little bit and move. You would see him kind of in latent games were down a little bit sometimes watching on tape and you'd see that kind of be a little bit of an issue, and we start playing a little bit a little bit higher, but I mean six seven, three

sixty five. There's probably a little bit you know, bust there, but really great player, really fun to watch on tape as well in preparation for the draft. The thing is is he was a basketball player back in high school. He's got that basketball background. I really wanted to see him run those change of direction drills at the combine. Didn't run a ton of those, and of course didn't

have a pro day to run it at either. But I mean, he's the largest offensive tackle in the class in terms of weight, and he's actually the largest to run a sub five to forty in the forty yard dash in Indianapolis since two thousand and six, I believe it's it's been more than a decade since we've seen a player of his size move the way that he does. That's why I really wanted to see those types of change of direction drills with the tone and and things

like that. But I really do like him fundamentally because I think he's got room to grow, and maybe that's one of the reasons why he was picked against or above Tristan Worse. But I don't think he's reached that ceiling yet, and I think That's why you look at this as a great pick for the Jets who are trying to protect Lady on Bell Sam Darnold, who's had some injury issues in the past. It makes a lot

of sense. Yeah, Dan, how how surprised are you that of all the tackles that are gone, How surprised are you that Worse is still on the board. Surprised? He was my number two ranked tackle? Is my number two ranked tackle ahead effect and ahead of columnus. I think the questions that come back is he can he play tackle? Is he a guard? Of these four guys had to be the fourth drafted, you know, and it just happens

that it's going to be Worse. But I'm be surprised if he gets past the bucks at fourteen, I plug him in a right tackle and protect Tom Brady. I think that'd be a natural fit there. Worfs was an absolute workout warrior at the combine, plus he came in with thirty four inch arms, plus the tapes good. I mean with Worfs, you know there are times where he oversets, and you know there's some things about him that he

needs to tighten up. But still, this is a really good player who I don't think I have to wait very long to hear his name. Cole how the pick is in for the Las Vegas Raiders, I get a chance to say that for the first time. That's kind of fun. But the Las Vengers, it's really not a foregone conclusion. But I feel like we're pretty confident that this is going to be a wide receiver. The question is Ceedee Lamb, Henry Rubs the third, or Jerry Judy. Which of the three are the ones that are going

to the Raiders. And if you go back to John Gruden, he likes kind of taking the against the grain. He likes some of those different picks. He likes some speed guys. It may be a little bit different than Ceedee Lamb or even Jerry. Here's the commission part of this draft, including the first ever official draft selection by the Las Vegas Raiders, and I've got it right here. So with the twelfth pick of the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders select Henry Ruggs, wide receiver, Henry Rubs

the third. What a change. You can change the regime, but you can't change the DNA of the franchise. They're always gonna take the facts of this guy. What are Raiders pick? Yeah, classic Raiders. Wow, that's that's that's I guess it's sort of surprise that Henry Ruggs is the first receiver drafted. Uh, I mean, what's that speed? That exploded space of his tape is just silly with the corners of shot. The closest thing to Tyreek Hill in

this draft is Henry Ruggs. And who is more familiar with Tyreek Hill than the Raiders haven't played him waste a year in that division. This is the this is their answer to Tyree Hill is to draft their own version of that, uh, for the Las Vegas Raiders. So this is a fascinating pick. Uh. There was no consensus on these receivers who would be the first one drafted, so interesting that it ended up being Henry Ruggs. I like about him is as fast as you are? Didn't

the really the ability to stop? I remember talking about, uh, you know Luca don Chet's with the Mavericks, his deceleration and how that throws off defenders. Henry Ruggs, we know the speed, we know the four two seven combine time, forty comment time, but we watch him on tape the ability to stop just really quickly. He's just he's as dynamic as they come. And uh, you know, not my number one graded wide receiver. But it's hard to blame Las Vegas at all for taking that pick. That's a

great player. Crazy. If I think it is easy to blame them, I mean he must not be a Mayock fan. I just think CD Lamb offers you the same explosive playmaking ability with better route running, just a better all around game. Am I crazy? Dan? Am I crazy? I think the Big twelve is part partly to blame for that, with some of the bad tackling in that that conference. Uh like Ceedee, Lamb's no question a better route runner.

He is better at the catch point, but in terms of explosiveness, in terms of the ability to create separation and then create after the catch. I don't think there's any any comparison between these two guys. Henry Ruggs is just he puts corners in a blender and does not let them get out alive. He has some special special ability, And I like CD Lamb is my top receiver, so

I still think very highly of him. I think he's more DeAndre Hopkins where I think Henry Ruggs is more Tyreek kill and both are going to make an impact immediately. But I can't go wrong. I do want to point this out. The phone is ringing off the hook in San Francisco right now, any of that right now because Ceedee Lamb is there and San Francisco has been very adamant about the fact they want out of this pick.

But now that Ceedee Lambs sitting on the table for him at thirteen, are they even going to pick up the phone now? I wouldn't Could could dt be a play here, Kim Law to help replace the Forrest Buttner. I don't know if that's something they would do, but they're they're picking here because they traded to Forrest Buckner to the Colts. That's a pretty good way to restock the cupboard right there, and be to take javon Kin Law, assuming they were down with the medicals, that would make

some sense. I know that's in our beat writer mock draft at the Athletic. I know that's where our San Francisco forty nine ers beat writer went was javon Kin Law at thirteen. And you have to wonder, you know one reason Dante Pettis isn't working out with the forty nine ers. Is just he doesn't have I think the toughness that Kyle Shanahan wants. How does he view a guy like Jerry Judy, who is very similar to a Dante Pettis type. Does he think that Jerry Judy has

that type of toughness? What about Ceedee Lamb? How does he fit within that offense? So? I think you know, if they're are they getting the trade action? Do they see a receiver that they want badly enough? Here? At this point, I don't think forty nine ers they have picks thirteen and thirty one. I'd be pretty surprised that they've made both of those picks. I think they're a trade out of at least one of them. It could

be here, but are we I'm still shocked. We're still waiting for our first trade us say that Henry Ruggs just put on an old Spice Rowe what a legend at his house, earning some Brownie points with Menie Spice. I would have really liked to see what he would have done picked by the Raiders. You talk about the flashiness of John Gruten, but hey, he's a he's a flashy guy himself. He loves the attension and the spotlight. It would have been fun to see him walk across

the stage. But ceedee Lamb, Jerry Judy. And then you also got a couple spots behind the forty nine ers that could potentially pull up a wide receiver in the Buccaneers at fourteen. I know they've got other needs other than a wide receiver. But you've got the Broncos and the Falcons of fifteen and sixteen, and then you get to our Dallas Cowboys, so there's a lot of I think we might be getting some I'm sorry, Kyle, I think that we might be getting a little action here.

I don't know if the forty nine ers are going to be the team that makes this pick right here. Oh? Really, do you have some insider information there, kat Well? I figured out are they gonna if we'll get the audio of it. I was the commissioner going to come out and announce trades? Should I just go ahead and say one of the rules. Yeah, let's go ahead and say it. Don't believe me in the dark, bro, I'm not gonna

spoil anything. Multiple reports on Putter saying that Tampa Bay is sliding up one whoa okay, interesting trading with the Bucks. So that's Ian Rappaport reporting that it just makes too much sense to for Tampa to get a tackle for for Tampa, Tom Tampa Bay that's worried that team would trade in front of them to get worse. It's always interesting.

It's always just when you have that one street up, you know that that one spot because I mean San Francisco is definitely in play for an offensive tackle when you look at you know, Joe Statily's not a spring chicken, and Mike McGlinchey on one side, they could they could go tackle at some point in the first round here. But interesting that they Tampa made that move one spot up to eliminate any possibility of maybe worth not falling there are we sure worse is the pick? I'm not sure.

But if it is worse, that is the most clearly defined tier uh in terms of a position group maybe I've ever seen, Like, okay, there's there's where the good guys are going. Now here's the okay, tackle are next? Like if that's the pick, but we'll see. I can't imagine, I mean, I can't imagine Tampa's doing this for a receiver when they have Godwin and Evans and they just got Bronk back. I just so, what would they do

this for? One seventeen goes to San Francisco. So San Francisco gets fourteen and one seventeen that's a fourth rounderth rounder. And then Tampa Bay we'll go to thirteen and they'll pick up a seventh rounder from San Francisco, their last seventh round pick in the draft. Now it puts Francisco forty nine ers at fourteen, though if you're the Cowboys, it might be a little bit cheaper for you to move from seventeen to fourteen if you like a guy,

Does that change your mind? Dave? Do you? Hey? Do you at least meet the offer of a fourth rounder plus seventeen to go get your guy? Do you at least try to make that offer? Right? If it's a fourth rounder, I just can't be given up top one hundred picks. But also, look at look at this lists, and I mean, don't you feel pretty damn good about who's gonna be there for you right now? And I know, I mean there's still there's still some picks in front

of them. I mean, you're we're targeting a certain player. Right we're talking about Chaseall So I think you're still worried about sixteen Atlanta. Yep, I'm counting on Atlanta to draft Javon ken Law, who I don't think the Cowboys won. That's what I'm perfect I don't know what the Cowboys feel about ken Law's medicals, but I'm perfectly comfortable taking ken Law Chase on Jerry Judy or CD Lamb. And I know that we feel like they need to go defense.

But I feel like if you look past Cooper, who's got an injury history, I feel like this is a team that needs to pick up two wide receivers in this draft, because wide receiver three right now for them is Cedric Wilson. I'm one hundred percent with you. I am. I mean, okay, Dan, I hear you. I mean, if I only have to give up a four round pick, if they feel that strongly about Chase on the question just is do they feel that strongly or do they

feel like, you know, that's the best case scenario. We'll take our chances with what's there, Jason, And you're looking at the corner, and that's where we get to a j Terrell and Trevant Digs and are those guys really worthy of top twenty picks. I mean it's debatable where I think Jason, I don't think there's much debate. He is to at least in my mind, a much better

prospect than those those other guys. The thing that gives me pause is that I'm starting to wonder if these if one of these receivers is going to be there, because I don't think the Cowboys wanted d after receiver, but I do think that they would have to take a longheartened at either Ceedee Lamb or Jerry Judy. Now, I mean the Broncos want a receiver, the Niners might want a receiver. So it's not just the pick for

your courage and sacrifice on behalf of our country. The San Francisco forty nine ers have created the thirteenth pick to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. With the thirteenth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Tristan Worf's pack home Yoma. Triston worse offensive tackle out of Iowa, is the pick thirteenth overall to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They give up pick one seventeen to move up one spot. I think this is genius GM move

by San Francisco. You give up one spot, you're potentially still gonna get the guy you're gonna draft anyways, and you pick up a top one hundred and twenty pick. But it's also great for the Buccaneers because now they get a chance to protect their new goat quarterback, mister

Tom Brady back there as well. The thing with the Bucks is they have a different motivation because they know they have a small window right now and they couldn't afford a miss on one of these top tackles, you know, because if Tristan Worfs goes thirteen to San Francisco or someone else, then they have to did they reach on that X group Austin Jackson, israc Cleveland or do they go a different position. They took all doubt out of

it and went and get their guys. So I thought both Pampa Bay and making this happen for a great career. John Lynch a fourth, Hey Dave four picks till the Cowboys pick. I have Chason, I have Javon kin Law, the defensive tackle from South Carolina. I have Jerry Judy. I have Ceedee Lamb on my board. Those are my four far and away highest graded players right now, four best available right there to me. I know we would need to get cornerback help. I know that's the thing,

no excuses. One of those four guys needs to be your pick at seventeen and key designation. It's three picks until the Cowboys are on the clock. So one of those four is guaranteed to be there. And that's why I'm not ready to trade. I like my odds that Chason can hang on, and I want to see what happens with these receivers. When you also got to think

about how happy right now the Broncos are. That's a team that wants a wide receiver in the first round, and they're gonna have their pick of either Jerry Judy or Cede Lamb. So there goes one of the guys those wide receivers. It's most likely gonna be Ken Lawn Chase on as those top two guys. At least out of those four, it's gonna be whoever the Falcons like the most that's picked at sixteen. It's gonna be the

one they had on lower on their board. That's available at seventeen, but there's still a lot of things that can kind of go out in these next three picks. This is what we were worried about. This is kind of that tease that Cowboys Nation has been talking about, because the teams in front of you have similar needs to you. So as soon as the boards kind of starts filing out the way that it has gets you excited, but even then it's still could at least crush your dreams.

It's totally possible that these next two picks could be Jerry Judy and CD Lamb and Saul. Conversation was moving how I don't think it's moot though, because if you're'm not getting a wide receiver but Chase on or kin Law, wouldn't you be happy with one of those guys? And I could be wrong, I'm wrong all the time, but just doing this job knowing people around the organization, I don't get the sense that they want to draft Javon Kinlow. So I I think I think you're right, and we've

got three picks. San Francisco Denver who said could be back to back receivers here and then at sixteen, to me, that looks like Chase on and so I mean, we're getting to the area where I mean, if I'm maybe it's not maybe maybe one of these two teams, Atlanta or Dallas, maybe they prefer an A J T. Well, maybe they prefer a DIGS. You have both these teams,

Atlanta and Dallas needs a corner. It's possible. But once we get closer, once Denver's on the clock, I mean, do you do you call them and see if you make a move. I mean, would you? I know you hate giving up draft picks, but as soon as you told me it didn't have to be a top one hundred pick, I my radar picked up. I mean, if I gotta, if I got a part with a Day

three pick to get my guy, I can stomach that. Okay, So now we're in we're in that territory where I don't think it's going to cost a top one hundred pick to do it. Dane, you're telling like, I can't draft Lynn Bowden if I don't have pick one twenty three. Man, Come on, it's also true, but this is something work on Saturday. Think about the sting it would feel if you lose your guy at sixteen and you know the

I don't know. To me, I would feel just deflated and I've got to go with my plan B. To me, draft god, I am just a lowly lsu homer and sports fighter. You told me, is Caleban Chason worth going

to get for that price? Rounder? Yeah? Yes, absolutely? Okay, because what's your plan B that I guess that that's the quarterback I don't feel great about and hope for the best, and that's in Chason's not the you know, he's not a top ten player in this draft, at least in my opinion, but he's a good player and part of why I would go up and get him

because I don't feel quit about the plan B options. Okay, So you're telling me you don't feel good about ken Law's medicals at all too, because that would be my plan B if I could take Jalen Smith at pick thirty four, that I can pretty much. I mean, like I'm willing to kind of kind of roll the dice on medicals. You've kind of proven you've got a track record on that one of like you know what red flag there will be? Okay, where do you feel worse

about backs than knees? I mean, don Terry Poe Gerald McCoy. We still, you know, we can't forget about the second round of Flash Year. I mean, I don't know, defensive tackle. To me, you've a group of guys you can you can play with, and as much as I'd like Javon kin Law, I would rather go with I'd rather chase on myself. Well, and the fact that San Francisco is still kind of taking their time here doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be the ones making this pick.

I mean, they've been on the clock almost for what twenty minutes now, because they had the pick prior traded it to the Buccaneers, and now they're still on the clock and the pick is not in at least at the moment. So there's still plenty of shifting to be said. Whenever the forty nine ers are done with this, if they end up trading out of this pick, then all of a sudden, you may see somebody else come in and take one of these guys, depending on how high

they are on the board. But I tend to agree with you, guys, I think right now, overall, it's not necessarily Javon kin Laws the top guy out of those four that Kat was mentioning earlier out of Chase on Kin Law rugs or excuse me, Lamb and Judy out of those four guys kin Laws. Definitely, I believe the

least of that, which is crazy to talk about. Maybe it's the medicals, maybe it's the feeling we have being around this organization, but it's definitely not necessarily lining up at least for seventeen to be the value pick you wanted to be plats of having some bandwidth issues and and maybe skip that pick, and maybe that throws a little wrench. We just need one of these three teams

to do something crazy. I remember I'll never forget how shocked I was when the Raiders picked Cleveland Farrell fourth overall last year, Like nobody in the world saw that coming. So we haven't. We haven't had anything like that so far. We just need one of these three teams. We need John Elway to be like Jordan Love, You're our guy. That's what we need here. And then something crazy though, because what if they don't go wide receiver that's gonna go?

They just a tackle maybe law that would be interesting. I would have said offensive tackle, but they just traded away from the best available. So that doesn't seem likely. Yea, I'm just saying they had some kind law buzz leading up to this. They had a lot of kin law buzz and that debot. They weren't able to get a trade for Marquis goodwoman. They weren't able to make that move. I think restock in the cupboard is a genius move

if you're final. As long as we're doing this, Katie started this precedent at a Oh no, I almost got oh, I almost got faked. It was a fake one do anything. No, I haven't seen anything. It was a fake tweet. I caught myself. It was a freaking thing. It was a fake. Here's Roger Goodell with a pick. Guys, I'm not tipping them tonight. Let's just go going. I am just got with the fourteenth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft to San Francisco, forty nine Ers select Javon kin Law,

defensive tackle Javon Kimi. South Carolina goes to San Francisco at fourteen. That is huge. Let's go baby hot. So the forty nine ers basically trade the boner for a younger version at someone that is a ton of ability, that is you know, just six five through twenty five with Figers ability, that's interesting adding him to the mix there, Uh Seriusisco defensive line. Talk about strengthening a strength. That's what the Niners doing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right.

I mean, you've done a pretty good job of drafting up the middle there. Um, it's got you get you some great success and able to go get wide receivers later in the drift. I know they don't have a lot of picks, but we'll see they've got action at thirty one. You know, maybe they could have their eyes on someone like a Jalen Raker, maybe someone like that, you know, Tee Haggins. We can throw out all the names from that next tier of wide receivers the point of disc us and now leads us to this three

picks until the Cowboys are on the clock. Three big names on the board Ceedee Lamb the wide receiver Oklahoma, Jerry Judy the wide receiver Alabama, and calebon Chase on the edge from LSU. It's definitely something that we kind of talked about early in the season or in the offseason rather, was with these wide receivers and it being such a deep class. What was the possibility that these guys, even these top guys, are gonna slip because teams think

they could pick one up later. I don't think that's necessarily the case for the Cowboys, because when you get to fifty one, that's a little bit of an issue. But you've got some wide receivers here. You've got Chase On, the guy that we really have pegged as a Cowboys target. Really from the beginning, it's not a certain that either one of those guys are going to be there. But either Jerry Judy, Ceedee Lamb or Calebon Chase On are gonna be on the clock when the Cowboys pick at seventeen.

Now it's just who do you have higher on the board? Passing league, Let's go, Let's go, let's I mean, okay, now, actually you know, now I'm curious about Day's point about trading up with Kim Law off the board. I've got to believe Atlanta has taken a long look at Calevan Chase. I have to, I mean, I have to assume that unless they're just as they're just as enamored by these receivers of everybody else. But you know, they have a guy named Julio Jones, and they just drafted Calvin Ridley,

and I literally needs corner help. So they they draft or they signed h Fowler, Ed Rusher picking free agency Tack McKinley, though it sounds like he's probably not going to be back. Uh, it doesnt sound like they're gonna pick up his fifth year option. They could use Chase use a corner, would they would they prefer a J. Terrell the third corner off the board at sixteen over the Patch Rusher. I still think dayson would be the

pick sixteen Denver here, it's kind of a receiver. I would think two pair Jerry Judy or Ceedee Lamb with Courtland Sutton and you know Drew Locke. You know that's that's that's you know, because it'll make some make some plays. But I don't know. This is where if I'm if I'm Dallas, I'm making that called Denver and saying, look, one of those two receivers is still gonna be there for your seventeen. Let's make a deal. It's not gonna cost that much, and I'm gonna go get Chason. It

sounds the television. The television says Denver's picking so it doesn't sound like that picks getting traded. And now, if I could be brutally honest and cynical with y'all, I'm terrified about the prospect of Dallas having Jerry Judy or Cede Lamb available and not picking them. I am too. It's happening. Who do who do you have great? Who do you have great? And hire Dane Chase on Judy and uh and Lamb? Well, I mean overall Lamb duty

and then Jason I study. Lamb and Judy were literally back to back in in August my first top fifty four, they were eleven and twelve. My final board they were nine and ten, so they did not move one. Lamb was first, Judy was second. They were back back the entire year. What you're saying here is that receiver, it could end up being Jerry Judy here, even with some of the injury issues, even with some of the concerns around him medically, it could still end up being Jerry Judy.

And you're talking about a guy who's gonna compliment Courtland Sutton. You want a guy in the slot. You want a guy who's going to be able to at least find an easy target for Drew Lock. Jerry Judy might fit that mold a little bit better than Cede Lamb would. Oh. I think it'd be a perfect compliment for Courtland Sutton on the other side, because, yeah, Jerry Judy he can uncover it will with his route running, and that's exactly what you're looking for. Courtland Sutton's not He's not a

terrible route runner, but that's not his game. He wins with size and speed and ball skills, where Jerry Judy is going to give you a little more separation at the cat and help out your quarterback. So if you want, if you're looking for complimentary receivers, Jerry Judy, no doubt. But I mean there's nothing wrong with having, you know, two types of Courtland Sutton's out there, because I think that's more of what Cede Lamb would prove into that offense.

It's a great point. And John Elway is on the phone right now. He is having those conversations, and you talk about some of the drafts that they've had in the past. They need some hits on wide receivers now because they need here NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select Jerry Judy wide receiver Alabama. Congratulations, Jerry, Judy, why did some of her element of dinner at pick number fifteen?

So now it's down at least in our minds. It may not be down to that in the Cowboys front office minds, but it's down to Caleb On, Chase On, and Cede Lamb. The Atlanta Falcons are on the clock, and things are starting to get a little bit exciting here, guys. Oh bit, I'm freaking the hell out, man, I'm talking about how about how about this? How about this? Let's go ahead and turn this, turn this down a little bit, Dave,

I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here. If Jerry or excuse me, if Ceedee Lamb is on the clock or is on the board, come pick seventeen and they don't select it, how disappointed would you be? Chase on there? No, okay, if Chase if if let's put it, If Chase on and if it's just Lamb, yeah, I'll be disappointed as hell. You're talking about it. I mean Dan just said he's like a top you know, ten, and I've been great. Okay, what about if Caleb and Chason and Ceedee Lamb are

both there? Um? I I mean I me personally like, go with go with Lamb, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna kill him for picking chase On even I mean it's it would be a classic Cowboys maneuver, which is to window dresser board in the name of need. But I can't hate on it because I do think Chason is worth that pick um. So I mean, I'd be happy with either of those two. These are the clear two, Lamb or chase On, And it's there's a chance that turns out that that's all you got to

choose for him right there. I mean, I said, take it, take that back a J. Terrell, all these names, digs talked about them all. It's Lamb or chase On. They're did you think Lamb would be there? Quite frankly, ceedee. Lamb for me grated quite a bit higher than Calebon Chason. This is no brainer. If he's there on the board, you take it. He's your wide receiver. Three. You're gonna go score a bunch of points and you're gonna see

if we can cover. We're gonna get aggressive, We're gonna get some more turnovers that we have in the past. We're not gonna play a safe on defense. This is and there's and we're gonna attack defense here on day two. This is just look remember the focus here. We talked about how they could go Chase On, but corner is their top need. And I know they were making calls to the top ten because they wanted to see about

going up against CJ. Henderson. They make calls to get into the top five to go get Okuda, So they're still looking at corner here. You cannot rule out an AJ Terrell pick here at number sixteen, which I think the Cowboys would love because then all of a sudden, you are you're picking between Chase On and CD Lap at that point. So but I would hate because we know what they would do. Yeah, No, that's that's two

good players there. Yeah, you're right, You're right, it would be It would be better than the Cowboys going a J. Terrell over CD Lamp. Yes, big facts. Well, and also you got to think about overall if they end up going corner and both of those individuals are there. You talked about addressing your your team need is need at

wide receiver bigger than we thought. We kind of had that as a top the conversation going up to the draft So even with Chason and Ceedee Lamb being there, which I don't think any of us really saw happening. If that was the case, it looks like at least right now, team forty Burger is having a better conversation than captain. Trade down would be at least out of

the themes that we've had on the draft show. I think, I think, I don't know, I don't ever speak too soon, but like I feel like trading down is is gone now because one way or another, guy, a guy with a great grade is gonna be there. You're gonna get the guy that you've had targeted this whole time, or maybe this five receiver that is a consensus top ten prospects. I mean, I don't know how you trade away from those options. Well, let's let's reset the board. I've had

seventeen for strung grades on my personal board. Three remain Ceedee Lamb, Cleaveon Chason, and then Justin Jefferson. So they're sitting at a good spot to get one of my own personal remaining first round grades. But they might have a few more strong grades on their board if Jason goes here to sixteen. Oh man, I think when you think about that offense last year too. It's not like they were putting teams away in the second half of last year. And I know there was a lot of

things going on with that Cowboys team last year. Right now, your wide receiver three is Cedric Wilson. We can talk about depth of the draft all day, but that means nothing until you show me what you drafted with that depth, and quite frankly, we can't talk about that until Friday or Saturday. Ceedee Lambs on the board at seventeen. You do it. You don't look back, You high five your friends, and you cherish. This world's going through a weird thing right now. But let's at least take a little bit

of solace with that. We got Ceedee Lamb at seventeen. That is the play right here, guys, you have the choice. I will say the pick is in for Atlanta at sixteen. That the selection is still unbeknown to us, but the Cowboys are officially on the clock, so they are at least sifting through what's left on the board. It could either be calevon Chaise on Ceedee Lamb and a bevy of second tier corners. You've got every safety on the board here, as well. But the Cowboys are on the

clock because Atlanta has made their selections. We're still waiting on Roger Goodell. Now, the Falcons could go with calevan Chase on here. They need some edge Rudger health, edge rusher help. Excuse me, they also need some corner help. We talked about aj Terrell, We talked about maybe a Christian Fulton in a spot like this, but there are plenty of those corners that are out there that could be at least in Atlanta and Atlanta's eyes a potential

at Hick seventeen. Overall, this is where where we were worried. This is where we saw Atlanta, a team with very similar needs come up and potentially take this pick because we still await Roger Goodell. But right now things shaping out exactly how the Cowboys would want it to. Here's Rod your good out as well. Meanwhile, let's take a look at Mel's Best Available, brought to you by Low's Mel. What do we got? So you got Philadelphia and Minnesota, New Orleans all looking and we got faked out. So

no no pick yet. So we got so I tell you no, no, no, no, no, We're gonna wait on good down. Okay, Katsne, just because you've got to step up on us doesn't mean I don't. I haven't done it all night. But the world's already tweeted this one out. This is the whole world's spoiling this one. I haven't been spoiling. I'm just staying away from it, trust me. But I do know this one because all the Cowboys beat riders are tweeting about it and stuff like that. Because you told me not to do it, I'll do

it or no, no half measures. That's fair, that's fair. I don't want to give it away because we are still waiting on the commissioner. But the good thing, even with the cowboys tweeting about this, that excuse me, cowboys beat writers tweeting about this, that things could get nuts here in the next couple of seconds. Kat Yeah, I mean, look, this is things getting nuts every time. The Cowboys are almost the man see and Arthur blank in one of

those ugly Falcons uniforms just made my whole night. Those are weird uniforms. That is some XFL stuff. No offense Falcons, sorry numbers really sixteen testtuff in the twenty twenty NFL traft the commissioner. Finally, Jarell defensive back A J. Terrell defensive back my job, and we've talked about it that it was not gonna be surprised. That's where the Falcons went. They wanted a corner badly, and when they couldn't trade up for CJ. Henderson, they went with DJ Terrell. And

here we are pick seventeen. We got what Cede Lamb and Clevion Chase on both on the board. A more perfect draft exercise has never been created in my time. Maybe it happens in the fourth round when we don't really know what a board looks like. But right here you are looking at best player available versus the guy that you need. You need the pass rusher. You don't feel great about what's there after. Calebon Chason, a receiver that you never dreamed would be there, is sitting in

your lap. I would venture a guess that basically everybody in the world has his higher grade on Cede Lamb than Calebon Jason. And that doesn't mean Calebon Chason is a bad player. You just never thought Cede Lamb would be here. And I just think what the Cowboys do in the next five minutes is going to speak volumes about how their draft process works. He's got a little influence here. He's saying this, he's an offensive minded guy. I'll tell you what I'd be doing. I know what

I would be doing if I were him. And the thing is is we still haven't known exactly how this new coaching staff is going to handle a draft process like this. No better way of trying to figure out how a new coaching staff has an influence on a draft process than the situation that you have right in front of you. It's gonna be obvious best player available or the player UNIQ. Like David just said, it's there's no in between, there's no gray area here. It's Cede Lamb.

I have Ceede Lamb as a top ten player on my board. I was that impressed by it. I think he would be the pick here if you're going place best player available, but by far edge rushers kind of the need you had. Now here's the potential that I kind of want to go back with. When you talk about the Cowboys offseason, they've done their due diligence and they've done their duty as a free agency market to

address some of these issues. That way, if a best player available situation popped up at this pick, which it has. You have some edge rushers like an Olden Smith than a Randy Gregory who still need to be reinstated. You have addressed your defensive line, You've addressed some of the spots in your secondary. They've done enough at free agency to where they could go best player available here and still have some fun and be able to address needs

later in the draft. I want to hedge my bet because I obviously I think calebon Chason is a good player. I think it's a good pick. But the pick should be Cede Lamb. It should be, I mean, absolutely should be. That's just it's some different day. You're walking your dog around the neighborhood, trying to get some exercise. Obviously, you're probably wearing a mask, you're staying away, and you find a twenty dollar bill on the ground. That's what this is.

Ceedee Lamb is there for you. You take it. You will rue the day. If you do not. That is your pick. Go. I can't wait to see what they actually do. Because you do it. I just have this sneaking suspicion, sneaking suspicion that it's going to be Chason. Man, you kind of have to have that in the back of your head, you really do. And of course, no matter who the pick is, we're gonna have a toast that brought to you by a Miller light coming up here in just a couple of moments. Man. But man,

this is this is exactly what you've wanted. You wanted CD Lamb there, you wanted an adge rusher there. Either way, you're walking out of pick seventeen with a player that's gonna change your football team. Now one's gonna make a lot of Cowboys fans happier than the other. But even then, you're still getting a great player. And what do we

talk about from the outset? Chase On has a chance to be a big time pass rusher in this league and a guy that's ascending, who still still has some growing pains, but he is all the traits are there. There's a lot of ability. And I think when we started the night, if you told us that Chason was going to be available at seventeen, Okay, we'll take that. Yeah, it was Steve Lamb still big in the mix. That

definitely throws a wrench in this whole equation. I have I said this on Twitter during the I have not been this nervous sight. I mean, this is our job. We do this every year. I typically stay, I stay pretty calm. I haven't been this geeked out by a Cowboys pick since it was Johnny Manzielle and back Martin. This is just ing. This is riveting stuff. That's what the middle will do to you, right there, being right

in the middle. And I think this is probably the most polarizing situation since Zack Martin and Johnny manziel They went with the better player on the board there, even though you had a guy like Johnny manziel who was going to come in and at least at the time looked like a solid selection. It of course now in hindsight not and thank goodness, they went with a future pro bowler or excuse me, a future Hall of Famer

at the moment, in Zack Martin. And so I think since that pick has been made, the Cowboys as an organization have not had a pick this polarizing to even have to deal with. Well, and I go ahead, Dave, No, I don't have anything smart to say. I'm just stressed the hell out. I just want to say this and I mentioned earlier Cedric Wilson is your wide receiver three? Right now? I know you just to sign just signed

to Maury Cooper to a big deal. Michael Gallup only has you know what, two more years left or is it one left on his rookie deal? That's two years I believe. But if you look at that like a little bit of injuries with both Gallup and Cooper, let's just to me it's like there's not some like no brain or some clear thing like that. Oh, there's depth at wide receiver. We can get one later. Ceedee Lamb is higher granted player. He has dynamic he he does change your offense a little bit. He takes it up

a lot. Do we need to do we need to talk about any of the players here? I mean, are we sure it's gonna be chased on or Lamb here? Do we need to talk about digs? Do we need to talk about McKinney. Do we the players to talk about here? Oh? Not? Guys to pick is in by the way, I hope not. Idele hasn't announced it, but the decision has been made. Jerry is being congratulated by his family in the Jerry Jones war room now here's the final moments. Here's the waiting Ceedy Lamb of Oklahoma

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Let's go. I'll open one up to that as well, mister David Hellman. I've got one on my own, and I'm here's my boards, glasses, so I'm even gonna get a little fancy with this. But Ceedee Lamb is a Dallas Cowboy, the top receiver on my board. Dane said he was the top receiver on his board, Katie, I believe it's the top receiver on his board. And then same thing. Whatever, This is a pick that I don't think anybody expected. They didn't necessarily think he was gonna

make it this far. But Lamb is a Dallas Cowboy. He's gonna have a star on the side of his helm. Lamb has been productive no better where he's been. I want to read you his stats from senior year at Foster High School in Texas. Catches two thousand two yards thirty three touchdowns. This guy has been productive everywhere he has gone. He goes to Oklahoma, he had three different starting quarterbacks out three different pretty good starting quarterbacks, Bay

from Midfield, Jalen Hurts and Cala Murray. But this guy has been productive no matter what. Is an All American top receiver on my board. He has for a guy's decent decent size, six one two six two, two hundred pounds. He moves like a much smaller players foot quickness, the fluidity, and like I said, he is a beast at the point. While I personally, I mean I thought Claivion chas On would have been to pick. I'm very surprised that they passed on him. I'm not surprised they went with the

offensive firepower because again they went best player available. They were a player that my boards ranked top ten. So I applaud the Cowboys for going with the best player and upgrading that offense. So I mean, if you're Dak Prescott, let's let's talk contract and get you signed long term because we got a weapon. You think you think those teams in New York, Washington and Philly all just said, ah damn, he a draft another corner various slay is

not gonna be enough. Philadelphia is sitting there twenty one two. I mean, I'm sure they were. They're probably helping CDL would get to them. So, I man, it just got so fun. You're now going to play fast. I can't help but think year one of a new era with Mike McCarthy coming in that he wouldn't have had a little bit of influence right there. I just look, with all due respect to Caleb and Chason, who I think

they all would have been fine with. This was the play that layded in your lap, and they they they didn't like. Did you did this happened to you a few years ago when you took Taco Because you're kind of overthinking about day two and day three, they overthought it. They'd overthink this best player right here? Oh oh good, Now, Cidrick Wilson is your wide receiver for guys. Yes, this

is huge. I mean, it's like, again, thanks to Middle of Lake for this draft pick um, what's kind of if you're well, sorry, Katie, I just I know there's exciting. There's gonna be Cowboy fans that are confused or upset by the seeming no response to a defense that was mediocre last year, and that's totally valid. They gotta do something about their pass rush. They need cornerbacks. You can find cornerbacks and say season the later rounds of this draft.

I don't feel great about where you're going to find that edge rusher. But if you gotta, if you gotta put Tyron Crawford and Alden Smith and Randy Gregory in there for a year and make it work. It might not be pretty, but we can fix that later and our offense will not miss a beat. I mean, hello, mister Clowney, would you like to sign a one year deal? Oh? You would? Okay, all right, let's not get carried away.

Why not because the Cowboys don't do things like that, although they typically don't do things like draft CD LAMB either. So let's party. The economy of this league might change over the next year, and I think we should maybe keep that in mind. If Clowney thinks he's gonna get five and one hundred, that's a whole different discussion. I think it absolutely is. It's at least in the discussion now because defense is the priority. You got your offense

taken care of, at least in wide receiver. It's wide open. Defense is the rest of the draft here. Now. I do want to address this really quickly. Dave Alp on Twitter just reminded me I sent out a tweet about three weeks ago, and this might be the dumbest thing I've ever done. Yeah, you did you. I know exactly what you did. Yeah, said. Somebody asked me what the possibility of Ceedee Lamb was at seventeen. I said, I

would love that. But if Lamb is there at seventeen, and then I put in parentheses, if and the Cowboys take him, I said, I'll run from my apartment in Little Lamb to the Star and back. That's about fourteen miles in one sitting. I'm gonna have to do that sometime soon. I ran a five k this morning. I've got some work to do, but I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. I'm not doing it right now, or yeah,

you can't do it now, you can't do it now. Yeah, I'm gonna end up doing it over the next couple of weeks, but hey, I've got to get some running in because I'm that happy. I could probably run to

the Star and back. When the last time we since since we started doing this, where we entered a draft thinking the Cowboys were going to go in this direction and then they ultimately in the first round went a totally different direction, when because we kind of dot and band rash, you know, we kind of felt good about not good about Taco Charlton, but that they could go that direction. And what was it last time you felt this type of feeling with a Cowboys first round draft pick?

Haven't been this blindsided by a Cowboys first round pick since they traded back for Travis Frederick in twenty thirteen. Yeah, and we weren't even doing the show back then. We knew we knew they In fourteen, it was Andy Barr, Zach Martin, and Ryan Shazier with a little Johnny Manzel thrown. In fifteen, it was Byron Jones all the way. Sixteen,

it was zeke Er Ramsey. Seventeen it was Best pass rush are available, which was Taco eighteen was lve all the way, and then nineteen they didn't even have one. I I just we knew that, we knew that they had the capability of doing this because they did it with Connor McGovern last year. But to do it, but to do it at the top of the draft, especially when the guy that you've kind of had circled since early March is sitting there for you, It's really impressive.

And that's the way that good drafting is supposed to go. Like I said, you're not going to find a bigger Caleb and Jason Fan than me. But it was clear and obvious that Ceedee Lamb was the better option. And now again for anybody that's unhappy about the pick, or for anybody that wanted defense, now we don't have to worry about this receiver conversation. We don't have to look for our Devin Duvernet or our kJ Hammler or our Bowden.

You can look at defense the whole rest of the way, because short of maybe trying to grab an offensive lineman, all your other needs are on defense. And I think that's where the Cowboys will be looking from here on out. I think that can get ready. Sorry, yeah, I was just gonna say that set you up for success because there is some depth in this draft and key areas of need. You've got some corners a little bit later on,

you've got safeties like it's Terrell Burgess of Utah. You have your wide receiver out of the way, like Dave said, that was gonna be a third, fourth, fifth round sweet spot. Now you can at least shift your mindset and shift your thinking a little bit to start looking at maybe an edge rusher in the middle of this draft, and maybe a corner or a safety early at least round two, round three, if you're trying to get a couple more picks. But man, this is uh. It's definitely like you said,

it's blindsiding. But I think it's also the smart pick because it does set you up for the rest of the draft in a good way. Here is the eighteenth pick from Roger Goodell for Miami. With the eighteenth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Boston Jackson tackle USC. Austin Jackson tackle from USC goes off the board at eighteen. There's the tackle that Dane was talking about it a little bit earlier for Miami. I'm sure we still want to continue talking about this

CD Lamp pick here in just a little bit. But the Dolphins do get their tackle. You said it. If they didn't get it at five Dame, that at least eighteen was the spot they were gonna look at it for. That's the thing. If you're going to draft two, you need to protect him. You need to give more help in Austin Jackson has all the talent to do that. Now there's gonna be some learning curves. He's literally the youngest player in this draft, so they're the growing pains

are gonna be there. But guys that move like this, they don't last very long in the draft. Has high, high ability and potential in this league, but it's gonna take a little bit of time for him. So not surprised Miami went this direction, but now they have one more first round pick. Continue that facelift on offense, go get that running back and helped your quarterback. So it's I could bring it back to the CD Lamb conversation a little bit. You have to look at Philadelphia sitting

there at twenty one. How much do you think they consider trading. Oh, they're they're sick. They have to be absolutely sick. Yeah, because you have to think they considered moving up to maybe sixteen to try and make that move once CD Lamb started falling a little bit. They didn't do it. And I think they're okay with Justin Jefferson, but I don't you know it, not only do you get Cede Lamb, you prevent the Cowboys from getting him with a trade up opportunity. So there's another interesting wrinkle

with the whole selection. You know, I'm an ideas man. What do you think about spending some of that stimulus chick on the number eighty eight Cede Lamb? Jersey? Oh, they can't give eighty eight to CD because they're gonna sign Daz after the draft, aren't they. Oh, I'll start that here. Oh you know where you were. Don't start that here. I'm kidding. I don't know, man, I mean, I love the eighty eight legacy. I don't know. I feel like I feel like Dez is too recent. I'd

rather let him forge his own path. That's just me, that's to me. Maybe they feel differently. He can't wear a number two, So that's unfortunate because he did look good in a number two uniform during his time at Alabama. We're spitball in here. I mean, what would be available for Cede Lamb? What numbers? I mean, you gotta wear either you gotta wear between what eleven or ten and

nineteen or an eighties number and would look good. He could have pen I believe eleven is open, obviously, you can't have twelve, thirteen is taken, fourteen is open, Fifteen I believe is open. Looks weird. I think they need to go back to just all being eighties numbers. No, stop, it don't be a Lambs better aspect. When the gold the golden years of the NFL, let the kids have fun. What are the Raiders going to do? They picked earlier.

They took Henry Ruggs of Alabama and possibly a pick that allowed Ceedee Lamb to kind of help fault to the Cowboys. Cornerback is what I would kind of had on my mind there. I thought the Raiders might be thinking a little bit of cornerback action. What are you guys thinking about for the Raiders? I think corner would be a smart play here. They wanted aj Terrell. I think that's the exact direction they wanted to go. Well, especially when you look at their cornerback pep chart, it's

one of their taught needs. Uh and that was compounded by Eli Apple. Uh not that deal not going through. So there's a lot that needs to happen at that cornerback pep chart. Would they go Trevon Diggs here? Possibly? Is that a direction they could go? Is that next corner off the board? Uh? You know what we're talking about? Any other corners this early? I mean there, I'm a Glad fan. I'm a Glad but I don't know, Um, Trevon Diggs, you know, I don't know what Mayock necessarily

and Gruden would value from a defensive backstand point. Um, they did draft Trayvon Mullins that last year. The years are running second round last year. Yeah, um, but definitely needs some help. All we said, we saw them, you know, go up and get to Gary Unconley a couple of years ago, kind of get a little aggressive on a guy, maybe not aggressive, but a guy who had some question marks coming out of Ohio State. So I think cornerback would make a lot of sense. It maybe something from

the defensive side of the ball. I think defense whenever you still have Chase on on the board, but you don't necessarily need that. I mean you could potentially if you really thought he need you always need pass rushers. Yeah, you could. You could go in that direction if you really wanted to. But the fact that he's still available. And then twenty NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders select Paymon Arnett defensive back Ohio State paymen our Neett defensive

back from Ohio State. That was a curveball because that's the Cleveland Farrell. Yep, Jeff Gladney. And then all of a sudden, here's Damon Arnette. Surprise, it's another Ohio State guy. Oh and that is the Cleveland Farrell of this draft so far. So you know, no surprise matters doing it again. Look, Damon Arnette is a talented guy. If you're okay with the character. That was the big hang up the lot of team. Uh. He rubbed some teams the wrong way

and they were afraid to trust him. And so this is a really talented guy who came back for a senior year. He wanted to come out after his junior year. They convinced him to come back, and he really had a great turnaround. I think he's one of the best tackling corps in this class. He could play inside, play outside. He is a really talented dude who talent wise, I understand this pick just surprised. I never would have guess would have been a top twenty draft. That is a surprise.

He talked about a late bloomer. He's the definition of that pick. I mean, he turned twenty three this past season and then or he was all he was twenty three of all of this past season. Like you said, he's got the versatility to play outside or inside. But this is a guy who didn't really see a ton of playing time all the way up until twenty nineteen because sometimes he just kind of stumbles around and he gets beat by some of those big ten wide receivers.

He was in the mid forties on my board. I'm interested to see where he was at on y'all's board. But the fact that he was all the way up at the pick or pick nineteen, I mean, that's like you said, the Colin Farrell of this one, this is just crazy. Probably in that announcement, I did actually have the audio in my ears. Uh. The commissioner also announced that the twenty twenty two draft would be in Las Vegas. Okay. Plans for twenty twenty one draft in Cleveland. Oh, that's

already been announced. It's in Cleveland, Okay, so they'll get it in twenty tw two. Yeah, that was a part of that announcement as well. That brings us Jacksonville another kind of wildcard team today who had multiple picks in the first round. C J. Henderson with her first pick, I thought why, I thought help on the offensive side of the ball as something they might need to go with after getting CJ. Henderson. So, um, just a team just doesn't have a lot of sexy osive weapons. I'm

not a I'm not a scout. I don't ever put together aboard the way that y'all do. But I think, and you know, Dan is totally right about the character concerns. But I like Damon our Nett's tape just as much, if not better than any cornerback after like CJ. Henderson, honestly, like I think he stacks up with Fulton, Diggs, Glad Need, all those guys. Like I'm pretty surprised he went this early, but I like what I watched a lot. He's a

good corner. Don't get me wrong, and I'm not necessarily knocking the guy for being a late bloomer, but I think in terms of prospects, I would have much rather have gone with a Christian Fulton and Jeff Gladney, even a Trayvon Diggs at that point. I don't think necessarily that at least Arnette was even in the conversation. But you never know. But I am intrigued as to what Jacksonville is going to do here, Kat, because you mentioned

it a little bit earlier. They addressed the cornerback need with C. J. Henderson, they could potentially go with a linebacker. Here you have Kenneth Murray that's still on the board. I know that's a name that, at least beforehand, was the other Oklahoma Sooner that the Cowboys had been kind of rumored around, but more so likely than what they ended up getting with c CD Lamb. But I think Treyvon Diggs, the fact that he didn't go nineteen to the Raiders kind of opens up some possibilities in the

early twenties for guys well. I think I say with Xinville here at twenty, I mean, Monakin Gockway is probably not back. Uh now, whether he gets he's probably not coun be traded at this point during the draft. But uh, you know you drafted Josh Allen in the first round last year, I draft another SEC pass structure with with chas On still on the board here, Uh, he would take over for in Gockway, and you know you've got the makings of a pretty good pass rush duo with

Allen and Chaseaw. Yeah, that's what I was about to say, Dan, considering that Ingaqua was you know Katam Twitter war with Yeah, it was what the Pians some the other day. It's like, okay, a little crazy there. So Chasa makes a lot of sense as well. But I do think wide receiver as an area they will have to attack at some point the draft is it's not, you know, a very pretty wide receiver corps for them. But yeah, I think I

think Chase that would make sense as well. Well, let's go ahead and run it down while we got a quick moment. The second ten pick, starting with the Browns Jedrick Wills out of Alabama, followed by McKay Peckton, a couple of back to back offensive tackles Henry Rubs. The third the first wide receiver off the board. He goes

to the Las Vegas Raiders out of Alabama. You've got Tristan Wirfs, another offensive tackle, three and four picks which ultimately set up this success for the Cowboys in getting Cede Lamb. Jerry Judy went off the board fifteen to the Broncos, right after Javon Kinlaw. Gotta throw Javon Kinlaw in there because that was a crucial pick as well. A J. Terrell goes to the Falcons at sixteen. Cede Lamb a Dallas Cowboy at seventeen. It's still music to

the years, I will tell you that. And then Austin Jackson, offensive tackle out of USC He goes eighteen to the Dolphins. Nineteen. The Raiders take Damon Arnett, a cornerback out of Ohio State. So Jacksonville on the clock, now, followed by the Eagles, the Vikings, Patriots, and Saints the next five picks overall, So Jaguars here defensive line, I mean Calevan Jason. Still there is there a potential that he could even be in the conversation here, I think to me makes so

much sense. Um, how far I don't name I want to do about not necessarily for just Jacksonville as well. Dan, what about a guy like Aja Pedessa, who from the beginning, you know, was talked about as an edge guy, who could you know, maybe be a top twenty type guy didn't test grate at the combine, not that I was expecting him to test grate at the combine. And how far do you see a guy like him? Follam, I think that we could see him. You know, the Patriots

of twenty three. Uh, you know one of these other teams in the back round, one who aren't overly concerned with the five or four or forty year a dash Um. I'm interested in some of these tackles too. Jackson Well, I know, maybe Jacksonville they've got a sneaky need a tackle, especially when you consider that they want to move deal Juwan Taylor inside or Cam Robinson inside. They could go with in Edford Cleveland here, that's possible if they want

to go that direct Uh. Jacksonville, like we've said before, they have so many needs. They can go to a lot of different directions. Here, they already got the corner. Maybe they go offense here. Uh, they could go uh with coug receiver Justin Jefferson snipe him right before the Eagles are up. Jacksonville really a wild card here. Pick is in by the way, safety could be something that would consider if they're still trying to kind of rebuild

the back end of their defense. But I love what you mentioned earlier, like Washington with Chase Young and Montes Sweat, you have Josh Allen their first round pick you took last year man another first round pick on edge and really kind of build that part of your team that would be, you know, pretty sexy tandem right there, especially that you're likely t commissioner. Well, there you see Caleb

Calevan and Shasaw Lsu. We were a little bit late getting to the pick, but he is the selection for the Jacksonville Jaguars at pick twenty, edge rusher from Lsu. He was off the board, or he was on the board longer than we thought. We were still kind of skeptical on whether or not he was gonna make it to seventeen for the Cowboys. Not only didn't make it to seventeen, but he made it past the top twenty and now lands at twenty. Jason still a really good player.

We talked about him in depth because this is kind of the guy that at least we thought going into this draft was going to be a cowboy. He stinks. I'm glad Dallas ten draft him. He's done. No he like I mentioned this before, how Josh Allen last year in the first round go back to the SEC passed rusher well And yeah, Jason, who you know we talked up since the beginning as an ascending player who is

still discovery how good he can be. Yeah, athletticism off the edge, he can convert a speed power and he can drop in space. So with Ynckway likely done in Jacksonville, h they've got Chase on Josh Allen. That's the making of a pretty good Again, hat prushure do and think about the fact you have Josh Allen, you and so okay, Josh Allen wasn't supposed to fall to them. And I think most people would be surprised that Calevan Chason is still sitting here at pick twenty. We've thought he might

not last to seventeen. And you can trade it in Gockway a pick, you know, assuming somebody wants to pay for him and get yourself some more resources. I did what they're doing a lot and then this is good. No, No, you go ahead. I was just gonna say, moving on to pick twenty one, now you've got Philadelphia on the board, and they've got to be just melting down with the fact that Ceedee Lamb not only made it to seventeen but is now going to be played twice a year

by the Eagles because of the Cowboys selection. But is wide receiver a need enough for them to take a guy like a Denzel Mims or even a Jalen Raker, A couple of big twelve guys that are still on the board. I received it. You gotta look at Justin Jefferson, right, I mean Jefferson too. That's a good point. Yeah. I love that h did t team like he'd be the perfect target for Carson Wentz and a receiving cord that just they were missing that reliable guy. I mean Justin Jefferson.

He is exactly that. He's that reliable target that can mostly I mean, you want him in a slot, but he can also play outside if you need him move. I just think it's too much of a fit for with Juin Jefferson at twenty one. I agree with you, Dan, But the other thing I would say just so we're throwing out all options. I love what they've done in the off season training for Darius Slay. I love adding Javon Hargrain, who I know you love densive tackle to

kind of add to their defensive line. Middle linebackers an area that they can maybe use some help. Kenneth Burry, Patrick Queen, a couple of names who were still on the board haven't been touched tonight. Really, no linebackers have been touched tonight. Za Zaa Simmons. That's an interesting area as well. Don't put my son Justin in Philly. Don't do it. Don't do it. Pick somebody else. No offense, Well, I would hate to see. I think the number one guy I would hate to see in Philadelphia would be

probably Jalen Raiger. I'm not gonna lie because I loved didn't Zell Mimms, and I've said before, as a kid who grew up in Waco, I've I've kept an eye on the Baylor program and Didn't Zell Ms and I love them. But I think the hardest guy to stop, at least for the Cowboys sake, would probably be Jalen Raiger. You're gonna take the top off of a defense and expect Jordan Lewis to go into the slot and cover them in the corner spot. I don't think that's gonna happen,

at least easily. I think Jaylen Raiger would probably be the scariest pick here. I mean, I'll say that during their their late season run last year, they were just having so many problems getting anyone open. So anyone in general who can go get open and help Carson wentz out because that was just just kind of a bad offense really, you know, at the back half of last year, Miles Sanders was the only we got to do with the dirty work. So justin Jefferson makes sense. But we've

talked about this wide receiver class so many times. Stacking it was going to be a difficult thing to do. Cowboys number one wide receiver might have been Cede Lamb. It was maybe the number two or number three or four wide receiver for other teams. So but I like that you're thrown up Jillen Ragor from TCU. Jefferson makes sense. I do want to keep the linebackers in the mix here as well. But if I following the Cowboys, I

think the player you don't want them to have. Yeah, it might be Rager, or it might be Justin Jefferson, something like that. I think it's Jefferson. I think that's if I'm a team of the NFC East, I don't want to see join Jefferson there because I think he is that he said they're missing Yeah, that would definitely

be scary. And I know during our mock draft that we had live on the Draft show earlier in the month, we said Patrick Queen twenty one overall, So the linebackers at least in the conversation ever since we did that mock draft, so you could throw Kenneth Murder, you can throw Patrick Queen in there. Justin Jefferson of course a great wide receiver. If Jefferson makes it past this pick, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe the Vikings take a look and take a flyer on him at twenty two.

So I don't think it's very long before we see another bevvy of wide receivers go off the board, whether it is Raygor, Jefferson, or even Denzel Mims. At the same time, Tee Higgins in that conversation too, to the territory where maybe often tackles. You know, the Ezra Cleveland's, the Josh Jones, Isaiah Wilston's, and we've got a couple

pick the commissioner here, Dane. Okay, if you're able to give, we encourage you to go to NFL dot com splash relief to contribute to those most unique and we thank you again for your support. With the twenty first pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Jalen Ragor wide receiver TCU. Jalen Rager wide receiver TCU is the pick for Philadelphia. I'm I'm a little surprised at it, and I don't like that. I don't like that. I know you're happy, Dave, but I don't like I

love it. No offense to Jalen Ragor or you, but I just I didn't need that conflict of interest in my life. That's a watsa hatchee product. He's a DFW born and raised type of player, and the fact that he played at TCU and was a part of that offense with Gary Patterson and company. He was really the

only offense that they've had over the last couple of years. Dan, Yeah, and Jalen Raiger is a talented, talented kid who did not have the production this past year, had some drops, but with all in his hands, he's an explosive guy. There's a lot to like about him. I know that he didn't necessarily have the nineteen season many expected. He didn't necessarily have the combine performance that many expected, but the bloodlines his dad played the NFL for a while,

one of the most explosive guys. I'm surprised they waited him over Jefferson. But you know, once we get into that second tier of receivers, that's where things get really good shook up. And so it's very interesting pick here, right, Jalen Regers got a little boom bust to him. He might be really really good, all right, when't surprise me if he fizzled out. It's this is a really intriguing pick. Minnesota's got two picks coming up at twenty two and

twenty five. Both well both they need some coverage out, that's for sure. And obviously a Mike Zimmer coach football team is probably gonna, you know, address the secondary a little bit. But that's something. But my question is now, with New England at twenty three in the Saints at twenty four. Should we be at all on Jordan Love watch Yes, good point, yep, trade up scenarios definitely and play for Jordan Love. It's you know, I don't I don't think the Patriots would draft him, but you can

never rule out anything with the Patriots. The Saints, they've done a lot of work on for Love. So yeah, this is some interesting scenarios here coming up. Minnesota. They've looked at these receivers, they looked at I expect it to be a receiver, a corner, or an offensive tackle, possibly a pass rusher with each your gross matos still on the board. So but Minnesota's got two picks here within you know, a four picks fans, so they at

twenty two. You've got to go with the player that you don't think it's gonna make it to you at twenty five. Man Antoine Winfield would make a lot of sense for them at some point the draft, given that the background there with his dad. Oh yeah, that's a

great point, Katie. I mean, his dad played fourteen years in the NFL, the majority of that career coming with the Vikings, and I know that he also played for Buffalo, which is kind of funny because you talk about Buffalo and the Bills and the fact that actually the Vikings got this twenty second selection from Buffalo earlier in their draft process. So I think it wouldn't make sense for them. Maybe not at twenty two though, yeah, twenty two or twenty five. I mean they got they got room to play.

You know, you also have these teams at the back end of the first round that notoriously move around a lot. Now we've talked about the Saints moving up. We've talked about Seattle Dane missioned earlier, the team I used to move back. We've seen Green Bay last year, you know, a first draft with their their new GM, you know, get aggressive and move up about ten spots in this

area to go get Darnell Savage and safety. They're a team who's got ten picks in this draft, so they might be a team that might gets aggressive to go get something they want, which could be a tackle, a wide receiver, or an inside linebacker. Um, you know, you have a lot of a lot of action at San Francisco at thirty one has also been a team he's talked about wanting to get out. But I still think this is maybe a part of the draft where maybe

we start seeing more trades. And I know it's predicting a lot of trades before the day started, but maybe maybe this is where things start moving around a little bit. I mean, I get, I mean, San Francisco did their thing. I just feel like teams just kind of want to hang in there. They're like, look, we let's just go with what we know rather than try to get cute.

And by the way, headlines starting excuse me, sorry, Katie, I was just gonna say headlines starting to roll across on the screen about the Cowboys pick of Ceedee Lamb said that he was indeed their number one wide receiver on their board, so you know the front office is happy about that. But I think you could also see wide receivers start flying off the board here, whether it's the Vikings at twenty two or twenty five. Dolphins could use a wide receiver at twenty six if they don't

want to look at a running back there. Seahawks, I know they can maybe use one Ravens there. I mean, there's plenty of spots here for some of those the second tier wide receivers behind the quote unquote big three that have already gone, but maybe Justin Jefferson. Where's the purple and gold. We've talked about him a little bit again, So I think there's definitely a spot for a wide receiver run. Kind of going against your point there, Kat thinks pick us in. We'll give you the announcement here

in a minute. Patriots are making a trade there. Chargers will be on the clock for New England at twenty three three. So the Chargers moving back up into the first round. They had thirty seven from pick thirty seven, right, yeah, yes, so they're thirty seven and seventy one. Who do they

want tackle? I mean, you think with they go Josh Jones, Azaah Wilson as Cleveland or could be one of these receivers as the run of theis they really like whether that's and we'll see who comes off the board here at twenty two to the Vikings if it is a receiver. But yeah, that's that's interesting that they felt like they needed to get in front of New Orleans at twenty four and the Vikings at twenty five to make that move.

They've already got their quarterback. They selected Justin Herbert at the sixth overall pick, so there's no need to go up for a quarterback. I wouldn't be surprised to take another one here. Yeah, let's go get Jordan's love too. We gotta get a quarterback battle going here. But I

think you could potentially look at a wide receiver. Maybe it's a Denzel Mims or Justin Jefferson, depending on who's on the board following the pick for the Vikings that, like Katie said, has been in for the last couple of moments. But at least it gives an opportunity for them to snag one of those two individuals if one is whichever one's left over. You know, the Vikings they really like Etra Cleveland. I wouldn't be surprised if he would be the pick either here at twenty two or

twenty five. And of course, with the fun things no longer in town, you know, they could always go receiver. They don't have to force it here. I think each mottos as a passion Grinnin like returning to the Vikings,

he could be someone they look at. This is an interesting dynamic here, two first rounders back to back like this from Minnesota, and shouldick him up a two and a three for a one it's just such a New England trade too, though they always kind of been at least I feel like it's a win for them to pick up a two and a three. Well, and they didn't have it too, so this is a chance for them too. Then. Uh, there's a lot of picks, but

not not picks. And it also kind of shows exactly where New England lie or where they have Jordan Love. I mean, they would have had a prime spot at maybe going and picking a quarterback. Maybe they are as sold on Jared'stidham as as some had kind of alluded to earlier. So I think maybe this is kind of a telltell sign that maybe Jordan Love is not necessarily the guy that New England is sold on. Yet here's

the commissioner for the twenty second overall pick. Cool, come on, let's go a Viking fan with the twenty second edition twenty draft the Minnesota involved. I love it. Justin Jefferson wide receiver LSU. Well, here's Justin Jefferson wide receiver out of LSU goes twenty second and I made it. I made kind of a snarky little comment earlier. But the purple and gold stays with Justin Jefferson goes from LSU to the Vikings, and that's a pick that's going to

help out Kirk Cousins quite a bit. Of course, they lose Stefon Diggs in the offseason. He needed another target to go to because now he's off the Buffalo. Now you got one in Justin Jefferson. Jefferson who he dominated out of the slot this past year, and so there's a little bit of projection there if you want him to play outside. But this the production that he had this year, eleven catches, over fifteen hundred yards, eighteen touchdowns. He's kind of a throwback as a pass catcher because

he's so He's Staddy at the at the stem. He's very tough, he's a reliable guy, and he could do so many things as an inside receiver. Now, I mean, Dave, you know this team better than a lot of people. Do you think he can kick outside and be just as productive as we saw this past year as a slot receiver. I hesitate to say that he can be just as productive. He had an insane season, but I

really I think his skill set translates. Like I think he's toughinitely gets credit for he's great at going to get the ball, Like, if you're watching TV, they just showed him make a fantastic back shoulder catch. Him and Burrow have the most amazing chemistry on back shoulder balls, Like he can create separation against bbs even when he's not all the way open. I think that translates really well to being on the outside. I don't know if you're gonna ask him to do it all the time,

but I absolutely think he's got that versatility. Now you go for you. So I'm not sure Minnesota thought Jefferson would would make it that far. Um, you know, I thought there were a lot of land mines in front of in front of Minnesota, namely, UH, the Eagles sitting there at twenty one that I'm not I'm sure wasn'tly surprised to see Jefferson still on the board for them, and UH kind of maybe changed how they were they

viewed that pick, but I'm sure they were. They were happy to do it, and it'll be interesting the track now jeff Jefferson's career and to fund Big Buffalo, you know, because that that was the pick that they traded to uh to not have to worry about paying Diggs and worry about all that. He's a very talented player. Like I said, I think he's more of a throwback, very reliable player. My only question any play outside, Yeah, can

you line him up any formation? He's still going to be in the same productive pro I think he can be. He was the last remaining player on the board. He's not in Philadelphia, so that's a that's a very very solid point. Now with the Chargers on the clock, you could be looking at a third straight wide receiver off the board. Yeah, I mean there are other deeds in LA For a team that's getting a new stadium, has a new quarterback, you could come up get a tackle,

like Dane was saying a little bit earlier. But then you've got the Saints, the Vikings, and the Dolphins coming up next, and we still haven't seen a safety come off the board. And there's still a lot of the top corners there as well. I mean, you still got Diggs and Fulton on the board here in the late first round. There's I think you guys made a great point a little bit earlier when you went ahead and

talked about the trades that could be happening. I mean there's Josh Jones, that's a tackle that I know a lot of teams like there's Jordan Loves still on the board, Grant Delpit either, Gross Matos, you run down the list, Zack Bond still on the board, and there are plenty of teams that are very high on these individuals. We've already seen one trade where the Chargers did take the

twenty third pick and the pick is in. But there's a lot of teams I think here in the back half of this first round that would be willing to back up a little bit. I'll say this too about the Chargers a little bit, and we were just talking about offsive tackle two areas on my team needs list. That kind of pops up one as linebacker. And again, none of those linebackers has gone Murray Queen, you're Jordan Brooks if you're gonna throw him in there from Texas Tech.

But also, wide receiver Keenan Allen is gonna be a free agent after this year. It's not like they're going a ton going on at wide receiver right now. But I agree with Dan, I think offensive tackle makes the most sense. You're trying to build that thing up and protect Justin Herbert for the future. But you know my team leads list. Slidebacker popped up as well. Yeah, you need offensive tackle, linebacker, wide receiver. I think those are the top three needs. But out of those three, who's

necessarily the top pick. Out of those maybe Kenneth Murray, I mean, maybe Patrick Queen, depending on which one of those guys you have hire. I think the linebackers might still be the best players available out of at least the needs that the Chargers could potentially have. Here, it's a great player right now overall? Is that Janessa? So that the Patriots might consider him? So that's uh, that's

at least who's available for me? So for me, for me, it's Jordan Love um and obviously Kenneth Murray linebacker Oklahoma. Kenneth Murray, linebacker out of Oklahoma. And and that's a good pick. It was one of the top players at least on my board. And like Dane was saying, maybe Jordan Love just not a fit because they've already selected their quarterback. But instead of going with an offensive counterpart to Jordan Love, now you go on the defensive side

and address that. I mean, I'm not trying to I don't like to bash on on players. I mean these guys, you know, it's it's Kenneth Murray's dream to get drafted. But I mean just talking about the value. Not that I think Kenneth Murray's a help a player, but a fourteen spot trade for an off ball linebacker, I don't know, Man, they want him to go be there, Junior say out, you know, go be that guy who's your team leader, difference maker on defense for years. So that's what that's

what you're seeing. If you're if you're giving up that much inventory to move up that for it's it's a quality over quantity. I mean you you are really banking on him being an impact player for your defense, and uh,

you know it puts pressure on player. Uh you remember when the Saints traded a first round or to go back up and get Marcus Davenport in the first round and the type of pressure that puts on a play or to live up to that type of hype and that type of you know, talk about the value that's gonna be that's gonna be attached to Murray that he's gonna have to live up to. Put a little more pressure on him. Not Trump pick, but he's a fun player. I think He's late through things at times, but he

is a terrific run and chase player. He's a tweak his strike zone a little bit, loves to tackle high. But the competitive energy, the play speed both off the charts for this player. Well, you talk about he's, by the way, emotional on the screen right now, a very passionate player, and you can see that in his film. The lateral movement is there. You talk about the closing speed, the process and ability. He's football smart and you can

see that just how quickly he's able to process. Like Dane said, he's got a little bit of a formation issue, which is tackling a little bit high. You don't necessarily like that in an off ball linebacker, but he's not. He's still not afraid to go downhill and hit somebody, and so I think that's something that at least you like about a guy like if Murray. Second Oklahoma player off the board following our CD Lamb. By the way,

I just wanted to throw that out there. That's all I wanted to do Thereason ever since, oh Man, don't don't blame you at all. Yeah, I was just I'm also scared and shaking on my fourteen mile run that I've got to do. But now you set up a potential of where can Jordan Love go? Do the Saints want to back up quarterback Drew Brees isn't going to be there forever. You do have a couple options in terms of cornerbacks still there, there's safety is still available.

But what are you seeing here, Dane? For the Saints at twenty four, the Queen, to me is the perfect fit. They need to get younger at linebacker. And when you look at this is this is a big time player Louisiana in high school. It was to LSU was a big reason why they won a national title and had some six sun defense. And you know why not? New Orleans needs more young, explosive players on that side of the ball. And I think Patrick Queen gives to him.

So I don't know. I mean, Dave, I'll let you gush about about Queen and what he could bring to a defense. Actually, And I mean, I love that I keep having to talk about the l two players as if I'm not compromised enough. But Queen is interesting to me. Queen honestly reminds me a lot of Layton Vanderesh And I don't necessarily mean the way they play like that

sounds silly. Vanderesh has several inches on Queen, like they don't look alike, but in a very similar capacity, Patrick Queen just flew onto the scene off the strength of absurd athleticism. You know. Vanderesh, you know, only played what two years of college football. Queen didn't start until he was a third of the way through this past season. They just couldn't keep him off the field anymore. And honestly, as good as this year, I thought of him more as like a Day two pick. I was like, yeah,

Queen's probably like a top sixty pick, but those measurables. Man, if you can if you're not a liability and coverage and you can diagnose plays and go run and hit, that's valuable in a league that's so pass heavy, you

need linebackers that are not a liability. In the past game, I absolutely think Patrick Queen is that, and it has been remarkable to see him shoot from I mean, he was a backup that people didn't know if he could replace Devin White, for like, I hope this Queen kid can replace Devin White, and you know, nine months later he might go in the top thirty of the draft. It's pretty incredible. His first career start was, sorry, the first career start was when Devin White was suspended the

first half of the game last year eighteen. And then he takes over as the starter, and he got better. With the more football that he saw. You could kind of still all illuminate more and more and more, and you got another young player still only twenty years old, but with that explosive ability that you kind of bank on that with those traits moving forward, I feel like, you know, because of what they've done at wide receiver

with Emmanuel Sanders, that might be off the table right now. Um. Possibly, um, he's you know with Queen. And I'm sorry if you did this stat already day because you have tons of great nuggets and I'm regurgitatings up and you said, but I had him down for over five hundred coverage snaps and never won for more than twenty yards. That's what I had him death for. It's awesome. I hope you didn't say that, numb regurgitating it while I'm looking up

my notes for it. No, I know, go ahead, Jordan Love right, I mean that could be that could be time to go ahead and go ahead and pull the trigger there. At some point we got to figure out who their quarterback is after Drew Brees. Drew Brees already signed a broadcasting deal. Okay, so like it. It's it's

getting pretty close. Seems now is as good at times anyway? Right? Yeah, and the SATs done a lot of work and love it would not be surprised at all if that interestion they win, Like you said, I mean, Taysom Hill, I don't know, it's hard to you know, obviously the Saints love him. How much do they love Do they really think he could be the guy? Could they really hand the keys from Drew Brees a Taysom Hill? I mean, I think that most of us on the outside looking

in don't think that. But what it Sean Payton think. Obviously that's all that matters. So you know that that is something to watch him with this quarterback situation. But at the same time, are you pressured to maybe go for a player that's gonna help you win right now? Because you do only have Drew Brees for maybe one more season, and drafting a quarterback in the first round is not going to help you get any closer to

the Super Bowl in the seat in twenty twenty. Well, you also got to look at even out of the needs that we have Patrick Queen backer obviously there quarterback. Is there just as a backup corner, maybe corner a little bit. I know they've added some secondary help with Malcolm Jenkins. They had an Emmanuel Sanders to the wide receiver corps. I would say wide receiver here, but I

don't think necessarily that's one spot. Any other needs that kind of stick out to you guys that they could potentially be looking at here going into the off season. I would have said wide receiver, but Emmanuel Sanders really does help out with that. They you know, probably like to get a little more out of drink one Smith. You could still gold receiver. I mean still again because like what I just mentioned about going for it, you know, having one season, what are the Tampa Bay Bucks doing.

They're going for it right now with a short window with Tom Brady if they have one more teasing Drew Breezes. You know, I don't know how much you're gonna rely on a rookie receiver to necessarily put you over the top. But we're gonna cool it out. We're gonna cut you off here, Dan, here's the pipe. We missed the pick again. But Caesar Ruise out of Michigan the offensive linemen, real interior offensive lineman. That's uh that's not one of the

needs that we kind of put out there. I have it as a secondary need in my my I have their primary and secondary needs. I had interior offensive lineman in there, but I thought it was Farchigan. He's dedicated his career. Interesting, that's a really interesting move. They moved up for McCoy last year, and that's I was gonna say. They just traded for Eric McCoy, and I thought he played pretty well last year. He had a great rookie season.

I think this is you're drafting him for uh more as a guard, because I mean, you look at Caesar of Weeds. He did play some guard in Michigan. So unless you're thinking about I don't think they're thinking about moving Eric McCoy after the season he had, So maybe you're looking to move Ruise inside a guard. I mean they what they brought back Andrew's pet at guard, keep Louise to right guard. You know, is that an upgrade

over over Larry Warford? Is an interesting move here and we've talked about receiver helping out Drew Brees, adding offensive line depth. That's never a poor choice, so usually not a poor choice. The final years of Romo talking about Hey would rather have pressure on the outside than the pressure up the middle. That's the one that bothered him the most, the pressure that's in your face more than

than when it's taking time to collapse the pocket. So, I mean, a guy who's not really mobile anymore, Drew Brees, we've always talked about his linked and how he needs a little room. Maybe staring up what you have there up the middle, maybe that makes a little bit of sense. But I definitely didn't see that coming. No, I didn't

see that coming at all. But yeah, I mean, if you're gonna try to, you know, obviously the Saints are trying to make one last push and get over the hump and win another Super Bowl before they don't have breeze. I'm shocked. I mean, you know, we all would have guessed Crews play center. I guess he still could. Maybe maybe they'll have a position battle. Well, So he's so quick off the line of scrimmage, he's got those big, meaty hands, he's got eleven inch hands. I thought that

was interesting coming out of the combine. And the thing is is he's so young. He's still early in that developmental curve, especially as an interior offensive lineman that I think you could move him around. And like Dane said, he has played some guard. It's not necessarily a pick that I think you would have made a twenty four. I think there might have been better options, whether it be linebacker, who I have a as a higher need

than center or guard for the Saints. But if you were going to pick one, this would probably be the guy. But the fun thing is you get to process this stuff real in time. So you know, they were linked to Patrick Queen and made a lot of sense, but they got to Mario Davis. They got guys over there they could do that, and if you're going to win the Super Bowl, you might as well just fortify that thing up for Drew reason let them go. So, I mean, I see the logic. I'm surprised by it, but I

see the logic. Maybe they're getting things beefed up for Taysom Hill when Drew Brees retires as a running quarterback. I don't know, throwing it out there. So at twenty five it's Minnesota, and then you have the Dolphins who got their quarterback. Then you got Seattle, then you have Lamar Jackson and the Ravens at twenty eight. My Jordan

loved targets have now moved to twenty nine. The Titans maybe start developing someone behind Tannehill and then green Bay at thirty maybe time to search Frere Rogers are apparent getting a quarterback late in the first round, just like they did and Rogers so many years ago. Wouldn't it be fitting if it were to be green Bay that maybe does Land Jordan Love a guy who may not be ready for an NFL career, but could get into that spot, the spot that would make sense. But yeah,

this is Trey trade and Vikings. Yeah, trade pick twenty five two San Francisco, and we talked about forty nine ers wanting to make some noise. They were right at the end of that first round, pick thirty one. I wonder what they gave in order to get that selection. I thought the Niners would go back again. I'm kind of surprised to see him going up. I wonder what it costs him because they did not have many picks entering today. Um, that is an interesting move someone they

really want. It could be an offensive tackle to be Israel Cleveland. Yeah, it could it be Josh Jones receiver. I think Dentel Meim Brandon Ike. That's that's a possibility there. That really interesting move for the forty nine ers, who they they had two first round picks and they didn't pick again into the fifth. But what they did pick up what a fourth round pick in the trade back with the Bucks. So this must be a twenty twenty one draft pick, I would guess to move up from

thirty just got it? Uh, thirty one, one seventeen and one seventy six. That's nothing, Yeah, I mean that's they treated a fourth and a fifth to move up. That's yeah, that's not that's not much at all. Maybe the maybe the Vikings just didn't have a guy they liked, because that just doesn't seem like enough to move six spots in the first round, either that or the guy that they like that maybe a little bit later. I mean they have a chance to pick a thirty one still. Yeah,

they have a handful of guys that they like. They feel pretty good one of them still gonna be there at thirty one. Yeah, went on the trade yard. This is where I have to throw it out for the sake of discussion. You want to start giving second we do you have the San Francisco forty nine or with the twenty fifth pick and the two thy twenty NFL Draft San Francisco forty nine ers. So like Brandon, I you why receiver or a wide receiver out of Arizona State.

So it was a wide receiver. They wanted their guy. They went up and snagged him. Now they did not pick a wide receiver earlier. Of course, they went with Javon kin Wall and pick fourteen overall, but they did go up and get a slot guy in IU. Interesting that they were worried about all those teams in front of them that they wanted. I got badly and I used a really good player. And he's one of the most explosive players in this raft, one of the best after the catch um and he really exploded on the

scene his past year. He was stuck going to kill Harry Shadow last year. Juco Kid paid a lot of corner at the Juico level. He has yet to play his best football. So big fan of IUK, I don't think this is too early for him. Just a little surprised. Niers made it smooth. Now about a guy who can take it to the house and pretty much anytime he

touches the ball, he's very dangerous. And you know that offense where it's you know, a lot of creativity in the offense, getting guys open, finding a way to get guys open, running a look of picks, good route concepts. They make it easy to get the ball into his hands. They'll do a lot of stuff with him. So it makes a lot of sense. You identify a guy you like right there, trade up for him, especially winning on the trade chart right there. Solid work again by San Francisco.

But that's what I was gonna. I'm sorry, Kyle, I was just go for it. It's just, you know, it's easy to forget the way that drafts actually work because we watch these guys and we're like, oh, why would you trade up for AUK when you know you still have all these other receivers. I mean, what other receivers are still available? I don't even have the list in front of me. I know, Denzel Mims there, I mean,

there's you got exactly. And my point being is like we sit there and say, why would you trade up for these guys. San Francisco clearly identified the guy. If they think they can do it the best, they might might not like a single one of those other guys. And if you're sitting there in your arrange, you do what you gotta do to get it done. And yeah, I mean, they won the trade as far as I'm concerned,

that was awesome for them. Well, and you also take a team that was in the Super Bowl last year who has a ton of young talent, both a young quarterback, a young defensive corps. You add another spot on the defensive side of the football, a defensive tackle for javon Kinlaw. Then you also turn around and you add a wide receiver to help out Jimmy Garoppolo. I think this is a magnificent spot. You get a solid, starting caliber player on both sides of the football. You pick twice in

the top twenty five, and then you're almost done. But you can still shure up some things later on, depending on how many more picks they have. I don't have it in front of me, but I mean there's plenty of options here, and I think this was one of those options that they said, hey, it's worth a risk. Let's go ahead and trade what we've got left in

terms of draft capital and pick two top twenty five guys. Kat, you say with the numbers were in the belly chart, Yes, so that would be they won by about sixty points on the trade value chart, which is the equivalent of you know, a fourth round the middle of the fourth round pick or kind of early fourth round pick. Um. That's assuming my math is correct, and I do think

it is, because that's pretty good at math. Is a He is a you know, a potential to be a yat machine, the way he hits top speed so fast. But there's a there's a clip in the game from Colorado, I believe where he reverses field and you know it's some of those players where the fans you're going, what's he doing running backwards? No, he's out running the entire defense and taking like, reversing field all the way around and turning what was a lost play into a big game.

Just a really dangerous player to add to the San Francisco offense that already has George Kittle and Deebo Samuel. And that's just I mean, okay, that's just good work. Identifying a guy you like and go get it. So I love it. I love what San Francisco has done the night, assuming Ken laws, you know, medicals and off the field questions still play out. Getting Javon kin Law and Brandon Ayuk's pretty good haul for the for the forty nine ers. Now they're pretty much out of picks.

Now you know that I'll be doing much. But that's a pretty good roster already. Well, I got in Dolphins on the clock for the third straight time. Sorry, go ahead, Dane. Now, I say the definition of a playmaker is someone that turns small place in the big place, and that's exactly how you does. So I'm looking at the forty nine ers attack with Deebo, Samuel and Brandon au can throw George Kittle in there. That's a pretty impressive three headed

pass catching trio. That that's that's gonna be. Whether it's Jimmy Garoppolo moving forward or whoever, that could be a dynamic group that you can win with. Yeah, adding uh, adding Auk and Javan to a team that just lost the Super Bowl, even if they don't pick again, I don't think any buddy in San franz is gonna be mad about that. It's interesting that they passed on all those receivers earlier in the first round and then trade

up frying you. It just tells you they must not have had a big gap between those that top grouper receivers. Then I came up at him pretty closely rated and also identifying guys that I fit what Kyle Shanahan wants to do too, Like you know, offensive minded coach who does have say it in their draft room a little bit? Does he fit what I do is is are you going to actual think it's It felt like that's the type of thing where, hey, they had circled all along,

maybe we can get Kin Law here. They felt uncomfortable in trading back one spot to get Kin Law and replace Deforced Buttner who that traded. And then I can now we have the Dolphins of the clock, Dolphins, you know, pulling up their teammates. They've already got Tuah and obviously they got to Austin Jackson the offensive tackle pulling up their team age right now. Offensive line always need for them.

It seems really kind of everything because it's not a great roster that look defensive tackle, linebacker, safety, wide receiver, a little bit of everything that they could probably add this would be the first running back off the board. I really could. I mentioned it before how they could do a facelift of the entire offense with left tackle, the quarterback, the running back, and if you draft two, get him as much help as you can. Left tackle

does that. Standout running back does that. And Dolphins pick again pretty soon in a second at thirty nine overall, so I don't necessarily have to do that. They can draft a running back at thirty nine if they wanted to. Could they go pass rusher? Here? Gross motsos at this point, So yeah, maybe you mentioned all those needs a KT. They could go in a lot of different directions here.

Rappaport has just tweeted out that the Dolphins are in aid talks with the Packers right now about potentially trading back. So that's the biggest There's a minute left on the clock or so right around there and pick still not in sod. This be your Jordan Love type area. It's right before the Seahawks, the Ravens, the Titans. I don't think out of those three it would probably be the Titans. Yeah, Green Bay is now on the clock. They gave up their pick thirty and they give up their fourth rounder

to get up to twenty six. Another player, Patrick Queen makes a lot of sense. Green Bay loss Black Martinez to the Giants. They need so much help an inside linebacker, also need help with wide receiver, also need help offensive tackle. We've talked about the future Jordan Love of That can make a lot of sense. But Patrick Queen wouldn't surprise me either if that was the move. But they value

linebacker enough to go Queen's time. Do you think I would say, given that they didn't even really make Blake Martinez an offer, Probably not, um Man, I don't know that. I know they've done a lot of work on Jordan Love. Um I know the idea of grooming someone is something Matt Lafleur would like if you're trading up for someone from their quarterback mix sense we talked about to go feels like. But Queen makes sense to Denzel Mims. You know, I thought you trying to put in a nice little

wide receiver. Run together here at the back end of the first they need help there. They don't have anyone who can really get open outside Adams. I mean they added Devin fun alanzor end up having a good year. He is not a classic separator. They do need to help Aaron Rodgers out and his closing years, But they also lost Bolaga to the Chargers, So you know, you're talking about a t got a lot of holes to fill for a team that went to the NFC Championship Game.

To see them trade up, we just kind of talked about that with the Saints. You kind of got a short window here. Are you gonna start to look at the future or go? Now the commissioner for this, let's go. The Miami Dolphins have traded the twenty sixth pick to the Green Bay Packers. With the twenty six pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select Jordan Love, quarterback Utah State. Lafleur goes out and gets the air to the throne of Aaron Rodgers. Jordan Love

the selection at twenty six overall. They trade up with the Miami Dolphins and select the Utah State quarterback and Jordan Loves a great players. He's a project, but he's still got every single tool you could potentially have. But now Lafleur has the guy, and of course Aaron Rodgers was the guy drafted behind Brett Far and the Packers kind of sticking with that same kind of mantra. This is a crazy I mean, it's it's funny when you think. You think about two thousand and five and Aaron Rodgers

sitting there, sitting there, sitting there. Packers finally draft him, and he sits behind Brett Far for a few years. Jordan Love, he sits there, sits there, sits there. Packers draft him and yeah, he's the heir apparent. It's love talents not the question. It's just can you rain it all in and allow him to be a more consistent decision maker. You see the flashes at Pat Mahomes. You see a guy that can put the ball anywhere he wants in the field, throws with anticipation. Candy be more consistent.

The interceptions went from six to seventeen this year, and the context is that, uh, you know, first head coach and only one returning starter on offense. He pressed a lot. Talent's not a question, it's just can you get him to be more consistent? God, there should be some tits conversations between the Floor and Rogers over the next three years. This is ridging. You think Rogers knew about this. No, not at all, because he stays out of it. Yeah,

he doesn't want to be held accountable for anything. This is this is like such a perfect case of like the truth is stranger than fiction, right, Like they get Rogers at a discount far of as a fiery competitive dude who's trying to win at the tail end of his career. He's like not great to Rogers. I mean maybe not a total jerk, but like didn't really appreciate that he was there. They had like a pretty contentious relationship. Rodgers is, you know, a fiery competitive guy who's hard

to get along with. You know, he's dying for the Packers to add some receivers and now he's got to deal with the quarterback who's supposed to replace him. Like, what are the odds that Rogers would have to face the same challenge as his predecessor, Like, hey, freaking love it. Hey Aaron, it's okay, we got you, Devin Funcius, it's all gonna be okay. Yeah, that's not gonna fly. Oh man,

that's gonna be That's gonna be awkward, dude. Maybe if it's any consolation, If it's any consolation, like a lot of these receivers are gone, you know, justin Jefferson's gone, Ayuka's gone, Ragor's gone, the Big three or obviously gone. I mean, I guess Denzel Mims is there, but I

can still get that guy in the second or third round. Maybe, Well, how I feel about these future picks like this, because sometimes it's smartens it sometimes it works out like it did with Aaron Rodgers, But man, I really want to see the rest of your draft at the end of this. I'll be really interested to see what else they came up with, because that is a team who just not only not only just wide receivers, but from a protection standpoint, Aaron Rodgers needs a little help to losing a book

in tackle and Bilaga. And then you know that defense throughout his entire career has never been really good enough to go get him a lot of playoff victories. They've lost a lot of playoff games where they've put up thirty points. And just to kind of have some guys on the board that you think that that you thought might make sense that to go ahead and say, you know what, but look, Green Bay also had ten picks

coming in. They could be a team that gets active and on day two and gets back in the mixing and maybe get some players. We've talked about the wide receiver class being deep and things like that, but we're all happy for a guy like Jordan Love who could have left Utah State, could have transferred, decided to stick it out there with a new coach, new system, even though the odds were kind of stacked against him a

little bit. Kind of give him credit for tough of day out up there, because we've seen a lot of guys go, oh, it's start working out for me. Let me go to let me go find Lincoln Riley, you know, so respect to him one. You also kind of talk about Jordan Love overall, the type of comparisons that are being made right now. Of course, Aaron Rodgers was picked twenty fourth overall in his draft, and now sixth overall

goes Jordan Love, both of which California guys. Now, Rogers is a little bit more Southern California, or excuse me, Love is a little bit more Southern California than Rogers was, as Rogers was more of a no no cow guy. But there's some comparisons between the two of them, and of course the careers of Brett fav and Aaron Rodgers

are now going to be compared at that point. But moving on to twenty seven and Seattle and the Seahawks, this is kind of one of those intriguing picks to me because you're still going to see a very high caliber player go here. There's so many of those guys still on the board, whether it be as zach Baum or a Bond excuse me, ter Gross, Mato's, Denzel Mims, T Higgins. There's plenty of guys. Even cornerbacks Christian Fulton is still on the board here. And the Seahawks could

go in any direction. Yeah, running back I mentioned earlier as could be that you know, you just you never know what the Seahawks that could happen. What about Patrick Queen, you know, kind of being the guy that's eventually gonna take over, uh for uh you know, the the great linebackers they have there, Uh, Bobby Watoner and kJ Ruddy that kind of deal. So, uh that's something you can we see, Uh Patrick Queen come off the board here at twenty seven. I don't I don't think it's eat

your gross mantos. Uh, this this isn't you know, you never go Seattle. They always kind of pull out a surprise, and so I don't think I'm a little surprised or picking, but this, this would be a surprised on the loss. Well, we've talked a lot about too, Gladnee Fulton digs those cornerbacks who are still on the board there as well. That might be an area that they, you know, try to address too. Um Diggs, he was what they what

they like? One quick note that just came across, So it says that, uh, they drafted Aaron Rodgers when Farv was thirty five. So Aaron Aaron Rodgers is thirty six and they're drafting Jordan Love. So that's about the time Aaron roddag is just gonna be in and out of retirement for two or three years and make it real tense. But you guys, do you guys ever watch True Detective h Yeah? First season time is a flat circle. Baby, let's go, yes, sir. Season two wasn't hit it too much,

but I stopped at season one. It's fine. Season three was good. But Seattle, this is the this is what we like to call it in fact rapping ports reporting. It's not a trade. So Seattle not trading out as a surprise in itself. Patrick Queen, you mentioned, you know, the other linebacker that they just kind of last couple of weeks. You know, people starting to talk about is Jordan Brooks Murkhart right there. Local guy guaranteed it Tech,

he guaranteed first rounder. So maybe he was promised by someone. But Queen Queen makes a lot of sense, and I think that's something something I would value. You can't have enough protection in Seattle either though, given you know the history of protecting Russell Wilson. But we see tackle here, tackles still there. Those guys we've been talking about are all kind of hanging around Damn Peter's kitchen is dope. I still think it's kind of odd that Patrick Queen

is still on the board at this moment. I'm a little surprised by that because I think both him and Kenneth Murray were pretty close on my board, and I think overall, Patrick Queen's a solid player that could help out a defense immediately. The fact that he's still on the board and that linebacker is obviously a need for the Seahawks kind of surprised me a little bit. Depending on where they end up going if they go away from George or excuse me from Patrick Queen, I'd be

a little bit surprised here. They added in free agency Greg Olsen to tight end, Philip Door said wide receiver, Vincent Mayota for a pass rusher, and then of course of the Cowboys, and then Chance Warmack and cedric O Bouyer in offensive line help. They are pretty active in free agency of adding some names to oh Man, some holes. That's I think the Seahawks are gonna get weird like they always do, aren't they They always do. They're a weird team. John Schneider does not care what anybody thinks.

They're gonna take who they want and they'll be perfectly fine with that. What John Schneider found Cam Cancel our most valuable. It's great to see our teams and stadiums helping those who need it the most in our community. So with the twenty seventh pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks for like Jordan Brooks linebacker Texas Tech. Jordan Brooks, linebacker Texas Tech, is the next pick for the Seattle Seahawks at the twenty seventh overall selection.

Sorry to cut you off there, Dave, Like you said, they're getting a little bit weird. I thought it'd be Patrick Queen, but instead they go with Brooks. That's a surprise to see George Roscoe, not necessarily in the first round, but ahead of Patrick Queen. Definitely surprised there and Brooks. Hey,

it is a productive guy as a tremendous resume. Instead outside versatility, he's a little shorter and you can see there are times where he's late to read the backfield action, but he's got that range where he can make up for it and you see him consistent. So a really good player who I thought would be there on day two, but I understand why he's coming off the board and day one just a little surprise is before Patrick Queen's off the board. Honestly, it reminds me a lot of

what they did with Rashad Penny. We were talking about that earlier. It's a good point. No, everybody, everybody thought Penny was a good player, but I'm looking at it now. He went ahead of Sony Michelle in that draft, even ahead of Nick Chubb. He went ahead of carry On Johnson. Uh And that's I mean, that's not to say Jordan Brooks is going to be a disappointment. I think he's a good player. I thought he was more of like, you know, maybe you pick him in the forties. Um,

I agree, I mean he's a good player. But yeah, to see him come off the board before Patrick Queen, who is pretty universally regarded as the you know, or was regarded as a top twenty five pick, it's a little surprising. I think a Texas Tech defensive player, you gotta, you gotta not carruth truth. I mean, so John Schneider does not care. He takes he's taken talent and like he's the first All American linebacker at Texas Tech since a guy named Zach Thomas maybe I heard of him.

Uh so, not not bad right there, but still surprising that he's off the board four Queen um and he got a two hundred forty pounds ran four five four at the Columbine so he range. Its speed, not a problem with the player. How about the the back to

back picks for Texas Tech head coach Matt Wells. He was the coach at Utah State with Jordan Love a little bit earlier, and now he gets his guy, Jordan Brooks back to back first rounders for Matt Wells, and like you said, it's a little odd seeing a Texas Tech defensive player go in the first round, but he's

a good ballplayer overall. Now, with the Ravens at twenty eight, and I tweeted this out a couple of weeks ago, I said, it would be extremely scary to see Denzel Mims along with Lamar Jackson back and forth for the next decade. Is what I ended up saying. I think you could maybe go Zach Bond here. You could go with some linebacker hell Patrick Queen there as well. I think there's options here for the Ravens. But with Denzel Mims still sitting on the board and they need a receiver,

you think that could be an option. I think it could be an option. How high are we willing to go on? You know, they also could use help on defense as well, I get safety. How high are we willing to go for someone like a Michael Pittman, a good point, someone big, someone reliable, someone kind of counter

off of Marquist Brown too high, too rich? Real No, sorry, real quick, since I mean we're talking about receivers anyway, Uh, ceedee, Lamb is saying over the radio that he plans on wearing number ten in Dallas, so not gonna not gonna rock the eighty eight switching over to ten. IH like it. I think that'll good. I think eighty eight would have been better. I don't have much more than that, all right, Bill Well, I was thinking to Pittman's too earlier, right

first round here, too early. I think he would be especially with Membs on the board. And I think that you can make a case for for Pittman at this point. Um, do we think Baltimore because they goes back bond here Patrick Patrick Queen and Epines are by two highest graded players. I mean, Patrick Queen seems like just seems like the

perfect fit here. I mean he's an explosive player. Baltimore needs help, but linebacker inside and outside, they could use an explosive player like Queen, so one kind of picks them in. Still waiting here on Baltimore, what could you give us the updated order? Now twenty eight, twenty nine.

You've got Tennessee at twenty nine. You've got Miami now at thirty after the trade with green Bay, the Vikings at thirty one after trading with the forty nine ers, and then the Chiefs round out the first round with the thirty second overall pick. Now, some notables that are still on the board. Christian Fulton, You've got Xavier McKinney and all the safeties. No safety, he has been taken just yet. All the running backs are still on the board.

Jeff Gladmi is still there out of TCU. Mentioned some of the edge rushers, Yeter gross Matos from Penn State, aj Epanessa from Iowa, even Ross Blacklock, a TCU product that some people thought might be good enough to go in the first round. So in Patrick Queen, we've mentioned him, Denzel Mims. There's plenty of individuals that are still out there that could potentially go in the next five picks,

just based off of need. But it's still kind of interesting to see exactly where you would see Baltimore going here. Because you mentioned edge rusher and linebacker. You could go either way here and still be Okay, are we going to see two positions? I'm gonna be interested if we see before the first round ends, safety, running back. Both

those positions get shut out of the first round. Very possible. Well, the Dolphins have moved back to thirty and that trade at the Packers, and we were kind of taken around the idea been taking a runner there. That seems like that can make some sense. But with the quarterback Jordan Love off, the board feels that the trading could come to a halt a little bit. There. Don't no one really need to come up and get some guys. It's it's fun because there are some names that we've just

kind of thought might sneak in. Isaiah Wilson, Ezra Cleveland, Josh Jones, the offensive tackles, digs in Fulton, you know, the an even Gladney, the cornerbacks. If you want to throw Dalen Johnson in there, you can. But you know, again, for me on my board, it's still Epanessa and Patrick

Queen my highest graded players. Well, and I think with Minnesota sitting there at thirty one, I think they're looking at tackle or a corner, So I do think we could still see Jalen Johnson there, or we could see Ezra Cleveland sneak into this first round before it's all said and done. Fun. If you are the Ravens and you don't want to go with a wide receiver here, where would you go would you go with Patrick Queen?

Is that the best overall player? You would go edge with A J and Essa, But of course I don't know if teams are that high because I'm not as high on ajp Andessa after as horrid combine. But I think you could maybe look at Queen here as the best player available, even maybe with the exception of wide receiver. And I just keep coming back to Patrick Queen. I think both the need and the talent that's available matches

up very well from Baltimore here. Adding a young explosive the Commissioner, Dame the Walter Peyton Man of the Year Award is our highest honor and Uklais are truly a role model to all of us, and congratulations on being a Raven. With the twenty eighth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Baltimore Raven select Patrick Queen linebacker Lsu Trick Queen linebacker Lsu is the selection and another LSU Tiger off the board that makes war now here in this first round. He's one that kind of dropped

a little bit further than I thought. But this is a pick for the Ravens that it just kind of fits the mold of the success that they've had in terms of adding talent, and you know, Dave kind of talked more about just what we meant to that LSU defense. But he does not have an extensive resume. He's basically a one year starter. He there's some certain things about him that he don't love. Shorter arms, again, the resumes

in my grade. He's not the biggest linebacker that he will struggle to the stack and shed blocks, but he can run and he's explosive and those two trades, that's what you're banking on. Like a player like this, he's got three down potential. He can play in coverage and I guess said earlier, I think that he the light ball really illuminated more and more as he suwhare football And I mean we talked pretty extensively about him earlier when we thought he might go in the early twenties.

But yeah, I mean, like I said, it reminds me a lot of Layton vander Esh Like I want to say, he's got fifteen career college starts to his name, but he was phenomenal for LSU. And I mean, if watching TV like they are showing you that he's making plays in coverage and that's what makes him valuable. I mean, any linebacker that's going to go in the top fifty can read and react and make tackles like that's supposed

to be a given. But if you don't have to take this guy off the field in passing situations, that's what makes him valuable to me. And I think that's why he was just made the first round pick despite really only starting one season. Man, that LSU team was good. They's so many playmakers. Man, it's it's surreal to think about. I mean, they've got four and we're not done. I think that'll probably be the end of it unless Christian Fulton goes But that, I mean, that was just incredible

collection of talent. Was like lightning in a bottle. Well, and even mentioning Christian Fulton here, it kind of goes back to the point we were making earlier. There's a lot of cornerback acts, a lot of safeties. Grant to help put another LSU Tiger being one of them that are still on the board, and it's starting to stack up. You talk about Tennessee here, they're probably their biggest need would maybe be an interior defensive lineman, maybe a tight end,

an interior offensive lineman. There's plenty of options for Tennessee. But then you go with Miami, you go with Minnesota, two teams that could use a wide receiver. Now I know Minnesota just picked a wide receiver, but it's starting

to line up at least in the Cowboys. Fact of fifty one, still getting a team need on the defensive side of the football and having a great value as well, maybe a one better if you really want to get up to if you really like Trevon Diggs or you really like Xavier McKinney, give up pick fifty one and eighty two and go get him, because this is about where you can get. You can kind of get the thirty thirty one, thirty two maybe early part of the

second rounds kind of that area. We're getting really close to that area. We're giving up fifty one and eighty two could get you in the mix. We've seen them do the before with DeMarcus Lawrence in twenty fourteen. UM trying to get up to the top of the top of the second round. Maybe we'll see how the final four picks of the night go. But interesting thing to think about overnight. I think it's really interesting that we've kind of seen a reluctance from teams to trade Day

two picks. I mean, correctmunity from wrong. Is the La Chargers the only team tonight that have traded a D two pick? Yes, yes, yeah, because we've seen plenty of fourth rounders, we've seen some fifths. You know, day three picks, you know those are no problem. But it's been really interesting that we have seen reluctance from teams to hold

onto those Day two picks. I think that speaks to the depth of this draft that you know, pick three isn't that much different than pick just because at each position, I think there there is value that stretches into Day two in this this class. That's kind of the conversation that we were having earlier this week on the Draft Show, was is the value at fifty one better than it

was at seventeen? Now, seventeen ended up pretty being a pretty solid value for the count I don't know about that anymore, Ceedee Lamb, but that was the conversation that was at least being had, was there's so much depth, at least on the defensive side of the football of this draft that doesn't make it top heavy, but makes it valuable in the second in the third round, and now you're starting to see that kind of work its

way out. You're gonna have some good players available, and maybe if you're afraid that some of those players could go, I kind of I'm right there with you. Kat, maybe not get into the first round, but maybe you go and give the Lions a call at thirty five. You're not going to call the Giants. You maybe trade the Patriots at thirty seven. I mean, there's definitely teams that are willing to deal at least at the top of that second round. So I think you at least have

to have some conversations overnight. How much do you like whatever players are going up to get? You know, we thought if there was a chance they would consider Trevon Diggs. It's seventeen even who knows how likely that that was, but that was the name that will sprinled in if someone they liked. We had kind of kind of heard through back channels that they liked Diggs more than Fulton. Now interesting, we were talking, I know Tennessee's on the clock of the pits and they're about to announce it.

Minnesota at thirty one, does it feel like Trevon Diggs is probably not an option for them, given with how it played out with Stefan got asking out of town. Ah, that's a good point. That'd be pretty surprising if Yeah, I think I think they would go Jalen Johnson if they went corner for Minnesota at thirty one, I'm looking at two players, Jalen Johnson or As Cleveland to tackle. That's that's my guess where Minnesota would go Tennessee on the clock. Now, do we Yeter gross Mottos? Is that

that possibility? Here gets the pass rusher? Could they could go tackle us? Maybe a Ross blacklock here possible? I mean they went defensive tackle in the first round last year. Uh, but you know, I you know, strengthen them strength, that's definitely possible. Uh, you know, dressing right tackle makes sense. I think you look at pass rusher. They've been looking for that guy to go with Harold Landry. Um. It's

an interesting group right here. Here's the offensive will out of Georgia, the offensive tackle, and there's the tackle we were talking about. Wasn't wasn't Josh Jones or Ezrac Cleveland kind of what we were thinking. But they do end up going with an offensive tackle at pick number twenty nine to kind of help out with Ryan Tannehill in that offense and protect Derrick Henry a little bit too. But this is oh sorry, go ahead, Dan, you say

you lose Jack Conson right to tackle. You draft a guy that's only played right tackle to your starter for Georgia there playing opposite Andrew Thomas, so a natural fit to make sense on arms man with him. I think he's a guy who's gonna get a little a little better and was, you know, maybe overshadowed by Andrew Thomas, who the Giants took with the number four pick in the draft. I think, you know, again, this is a

guy you're gonna need to develop a little bit. Um. I thought he looked good against Chase On in that LSU game. That's kind of a game where I kind of really you had had quite a few notes on him playing pretty well against Chase On. I think he does a good job of just kind of runk, standing his arms and doing a good job of not letting defenders get in on him. Again, still a lot to work with there. Sometimes he plays high. Sometimes he just

kind of lazy getting into his pass rush set. But now Isaiah Wilson's a guy who I had a second round grade on, and you know, I felt I felt pretty good about him. I had a higher grade. I had a higher grade on him that I did Austin Jackson, who went at pick eighteen to the Dolphins. You know, and she's just looking. I'm looking at my film notes too, And when I wrote down here, I said, blend of size, mobility, and power, his technique and footwork holding back from being

a first rounder. So apparently I was wrong on the fact of saying that he wasn't a first rounder. But I did have a late second round grade on him, so maybe I'm not as high as some are on him. I definitely have him a little bit further down the board than both Cleveland and also Josh Jones. But the fact that, like Dane said, he's an experienced yet young he was just a redshirt sophomore. He's still a little bit of a younger body that you could potentially work with.

I don't think this is a terrible pick by any means. On the back half of the first round, Dave's big half face. I feel that this happens every year, that we'll get to the inn one, and then we sit there and go, man, there's some really good players left there in the thirties, and how long can they stay? Do you start thinking? That's what I was going to say. I think I've decided this is my favorite part of the draft because the top of the draft is boring.

Like the first twenty players. I mean, we don't know what order they're gonna go in, but we know who's gonna get picked for the most part. And then you get into like Day two and Day three, and it starts becoming harder to really judge. You know, how teams evaluate, but here you've got a list of about twenty players, and you know, there's the media narrative and the fan narrative about who's supposed to go, and then you really get to find out how these teams feel, and it's

obvious that sometimes they feel a lot differently. And it's not like these guys aren't worth first round picks, but they're just not the names that you're necessarily expecting. Go ahead, I was just gonna saying, with Miami on the clock, now, this is, of course the pick that they traded with green Bay. Green Bay goes up, gets Jordan Love at twenty six, Seahawks get Jordan Brooks at twenty seven, and then Patrick Queen goes twenty eight. So we've had back

to back linebackers. We haven't seen a receiver since twenty five. We haven't seen a cornerback selected since Dame in our Nett, which is still probably the surprising pick of the night at pick nineteen. There's a couple of cornerbacks on the board here. But if you're the Dolphins, are you still kind of putting that focus on the offensive side of the football. Are you gonna try and address the defense here? Both the Dane's idea of running it back, let's see

it happen. I mean, I think this is this is the point where you maybe make that move. And well, I think we are we at six receivers and six offensive tackles, I'm sure, so those two positions fighting it out to be the most represented position in the first round with what three picks left, so you know, still a chance we could see a tackle at thirty one, maybe the Minnesota so that that could could get interesting.

I still think running back here, and you know it's anybody's guests which running back and they would prefer whether it's Dobbins or Taylor or maybe Swift. Yeah, as possible. So you know, you totally revamp your offensive backfield with a little tap of the quarterback to running back. They also need pass rusher, and you know we've rattled off all these there's no shortage of different positions. They could go here, who's your favorite running back? Or what? What's

your kind of your top five running back ranking? Stay a big Dobbins fan. I just think that he is such a natural. Some guys are born to play running back. I think he's one of them with his ability to u re get you the whole with timing, and then he can be elusive at the second level. He could be a three down player. So I I but I have all these guys very close. I have Dobbins and Swift than Taylor, than Edwards the layer. But I mean I would not fault the Dolphins if they went any

of those four running backs balls spectacularly. Maybe if that was a different draft, it would probably be more of an emphasis on running back. But I think, of course, like you kind of talked about a little bit earlier game, the way that the NFL is kind of moving now in the wide receivers being such a big emphasis and even with a deep talented draft at that position, they kind of get lost in the shuffle. But you can still have an impact running back and make a selection

on one in the first round. I wouldn't be surprised as the pick is in here from the Dolphins now still waiting on the commissioner get the official word here. But if it's a running back, I wouldn't necessarily be too upset here with Miami because you get that facelift of the offense. It makes sense. I guess, you know at some point with the Dolphins again, they're not ready to win yet, so like there's a there's a lot

going on there. I just I can't get my mind away from all these names who we just kind of considered, you know, and maybe top twenty type guys. Xavier McKitty comes to mind, Fulton Diggs again. I have a bigger a j Pidessa fan than than a lot of people. Are a bigger maybe Jeff Gladney fan than a lot of people. But there's so many names, man, I really like, you know what day two, Round two is gonna bring

us tomorrow? Oh? I agree, you look at all the names there Jeff Gladney, Christian Fulton, Trayvon Diggs, Noah Igbinogaty, Jalen Johnson, Bryce Hall, and Cameron Danceler. There's so many options for a team that needs cornerback help, and now all of our are on the board. Here you might see one go here with Miami, of course corners in need, but I think they would still maybe stick with the

offensive side of the football. And then you got the Chiefs at thirty two that could potentially take a quarterback or a cornerback rather with the last pick of the round, now I don't see the Vikings maybe taking a corner. Oh they could actually now that I'm kind of looking at it, they could potentially go corner. So these next three picks you could rattle off the same position. David Arnette.

The shocking pick of the night so far is that the one that's kind of like, WHOA, I didn't see that coming him and Jordan Brooks, I mean Jordan Brooks, I thought, you know, there was a little bit of buzz about that happening, um, so that that was a little bit more expected. But David Arnett to go the top twenty picks definitely surprised. Uh. Look, David Arnett is not a bad player. Uh. And you know Ohio State

they watching Okuda. A lot of teams went after are because they avoided a Okuda and Arnette held his own more than held his own. And like I said, it would play them inside, they play him outside. A really good tackler. Uh. He really did stop cutting down on the penalties this year. The downfield contact some people. Uh, some teams said that he rode the wrong way. Um, and so that is the factor that I thought was

draw him farther than that. But obviously the Raiders were not one of those teams, and they felt comfortable with him over some of the other cornerbacks. Friend, baby hey rugs in our net, just like we thought in every mock draft, right. I mean, I'm not I had no idea that that's what the Raiders were gonna do. But in retrospect, I'm like, yeah, those are Raiders picks right there. You think that rioting right now? In Las Vegas? I know Las Vegas is a little different than Oakland, but

I don't know if they're rioting. I mean, they addressed their two biggest needs. They got a receiver in a cornerback. We'll see if we'll see if they got the right ones. I mean I would have taken cd La over Harry Rugs, that's for sure. But honestly, I think I said this when they picked him, like, I like our net just as much, if not more than any of the guys

that are on the board after j Henderson. And if they feel comfortable that he's not a knuckle head or not too much of a knuckle head, then I don't have a problem with it. What were you saying, Katie Us? I still like running back here for the Dolphins. But man, there's one thing I know about this league. It's the Dolphins will screw anything up, so uh, you never know what they're gonna do. Draft. The Miami Dolphins select no big defense him back oh AUBURNI Noah. Igbogeny Corner out

of Auburn is the thirtieth overall pick. And we were talking about corner and I said that as one of the second round names. That kind of piqued my interest and at least made me a little bit excited about tomorrow. But man, the fact that Igbogeny is the selection is

something special. Second It's it's interesting that he goes ahead of full, goes ahead of Dylan Johnson, goes ahead of ahead a dig I mean igban is he's a fun player because he's a receiver most of his life the corner as a sophomore, and you can tell he's still learning and putting things together. But terrific athlete. He's not afraid to get physical. Not the biggest guy, he's five tens,

around two hundred pounds, but a really good athlete. I think he has the demeanor that the Dolphins are looking for at that cornerback position well. And he also has an impact on special teams as well if you really wanted to. He was a kick returner, a punt returner during his time at Auburn, so I think he could kind of have some versatility here. But I don't know if they really expected or I did. I definitely didn't expect even igban Agaeny to be in the conversation until

we got to fifty one. I don't think he would have been at it even before then. That's uh, I mean, I really like, I mean like he just strikes me as a guy that you can put out there and let him handle his man. He was really impressive and honest, I think it's ironic that he went a pick before Vikings because that seems like something Mike Zimmer would do. Uh. You know, he loves his quarterbacks. Um, definitely surprising, kind of like David Arnette, though like surprising, I like him.

I'm like, I don't think it's a bad pick. I just wasn't expecting to hear it so early. I mean, you look, he had some flashes and things like that, and he's guy he's don't get me wrong, he's got some good tape. There's too many times where I then I thought he was kind of on roller skates back there when it was time to turn and run and track the football, you know it kind of sometimes it just doesn't look natural, I guess, is what I'm saying.

But again, I'm talking about a guy who's uh, Dane would say, most likely an ascending prospect, most likely a guy who's you know, developing it. Also, you know, they spent that money on Byron Jones, but uh and Xavian Howard, so maybe they see him as a guy that they can you know, play in the slide, you know, most of the time, because they've I mean, they've got two big white, two big cornerback contracts, so I really didn't

see them going cornerback again one first round. Another note that I had on Igmanogeny was that the fact that his best tape was the under the bright lights Alabama LSU were some of the better games that he played, and even though some of the ball skills and some of the technicalities of it are a little bit unpolished, He's still an individual that I think would have been a value pick in the second round. But I'm not where Dave is of saying that, I don't think that

thirty is where that value may lie. This might speak to how they feel about Xavian Howard, who has some off field issues going on right now, because obviously they gave all that money to Byron. Joe tankerously still in the mix, played well as an undrafted rookie last year, so interesting that they took owner at that point, and like it been Agny, I think he fits exactly what Brian Flores is looking for. He has that that competitive mentality that really shows on his tape and so makes

it a lot of fun. With the Minnesota Vikings select Jeff Gladdene defensive back about Jeff Gladney staying in the purple as the Vikings take Gladdney off the board second straight corner. It's kind of what we talked about earlier. These final three picks may all be defensive backs. And I know, Katie, you're extremely high on Jeff Gladney. This is a solid selection for the Vikings, even trading back from where they originally were a twenty five. Yeah, just

to me. I know a lot of people are going to knock his height at five ten, but again, he's got the length of a guy who's six foot, so I think that's something. You know, his really long arms, good wingspan, and just he plays the football. I think he's the aggressive guy of getting there. Dane had the stat earlier about two plus two seasons of more than fifteen balls batted down or passes defense. Again, I was in love with Jeff Gladney from the beginning. Loved his

tape and love the fit here in Minnesota too. Man that that is a perfect place to go if you're gonna go, you know, be a defensive back. Immediately we'll get a chance to start, I would imagine. I know they have my cues who they took a couple of years ago. But Jeff Glide is going to have a chance to shine in Minnesota. I would really love to pick for that man. It's a value. Nonetheless, at thirty one, now you move on to the defending world champion Kansas

City Chiefs. They still got Christian Fulton on the board. Do you think this could be a spot where Fulton goes in the mock draft that we had on the Cowboys Draft Show at aj Terrell. Now, of course he's off the board as he was so elected at sixteen overall by the Falcons, But whenever you look at corners available on at least right now, it would probably be the number one corner Christian Fulton. What I am I wrong?

I think Jalen Johnson still has to be in that mix. Okay, I think he as long as you're okay with the shoulders. He's got a history of shoulder issues. As long as you're okay with the shoulders. I mean, I think I actually like him much better than Chris Fulton. But Trond Biggs is still there. Um, could we see the first

running back off the board here? Is that possible? You look at they just won Super Bowl with an un drafted from agent running back, so they know they don't have to go that direction, but would add a superior talent at the position really bolt them up that much where it makes it worth a first draft pick. So the Chiefs they could go in several different directions here. It would be fun if the Chiefs drafted are running back.

But I don't know. I bet if you told them at the start of the night that Kayley Johnson and Christian Fulton would both be there and throw in Trevon Diggs for that matter, I don't know. That's a lot of value at a position that you need. And yeah, and you're totally right. I mean, they just won the Super Bowl without a real running back, so I don't know how drastically they need to do that. When they have Mahomes and all those receivers, you're gonna be exactly

how they value that position. Go ahead, Katie, Yeah, I want to make the obligatory Brian brought us yearly comment right now. Don't be surprised if someone wants to trade into thirty two to get that fifth year option, the very Brian brought us comment, and it's also very possible. At the same time, I'm gonna miss you guys the next two days. So, like, I just wanted to get that in because yeah, definitely miss you too, wish you were gonna be here, Katie. This was a lot of fun, man.

I'm glad you were along for the ride. It's okay, and hopefully they'll allow me back next year on the Draft Show. There's the again draft Goo shirt. Oh there you go. Yeah, show that thing off. And that's the thing is is we love you, kat and we are sad that we we won't have you on our coverage the next couple of days, but you will be back on the Draft Show over the next couple of weeks and we'll kind of talk through exactly how things are happening with this draft. It's it's when you talk about

the Cowboys. It's looking really good right now heading into the second round. Now, I know we've had a mini run of corners at least over the last couple of picks, and we may have another one here, but every safety still on the board. Most of the solid second tier corners are still there as well, like a Jalen Johnson or Christian Fulton. Is there an opportunity maybe tomorrow for the Cowboys to maybe throw in some extra picks and try and move up into the early parts of the

second Did you want to do that? Who are we going for? After Christian Fulton? Let's say he doesn't get paid. I mean you're sitting here. I mean we we got our forty Burghers were feeling great about the offense. If there's one defensive position, I feel like I gotta come away with its cornerback. So let's see what the Chiefs do here. But I mean Fulton did and uh and I'm jail Now what about no safeties off the board yet? Do they have a high enough great on McKinney where

that could be attempting option? I think I'd rather just wait and see if one of those guys will fall to me. And I agree, I think that's fair. I think it just comes down to hot how how high did they rape McKay where if they had a first round great on him, then it gets a little tricky. But I would agree with you. I think there are enough second round safeties where they don't have to make that reach. Say this now that I I mean, I've

got an impact starter receiver. I'm I'm down to trade away my third if I'm gonna get a definitive starter in the second round, Like, if we're gonna get a guy that's gonna start at either corner or safety, you could talk me into it. I still, I don't. I would prefer not to, but I'm I'm open to it. I need some help at Edge, I need some help at cornerback. And I still and I'm about to probably sign my quarterback most likely, so I need some minimum wage guys. So I'm gonna try to keep my picks.

But we'll, you know, maybe come back to me at pick thirty five and thirty six and we'll see how these names can fly off the border tomorrow. Maybe maybe you could talk me into something. I'm just I'm being cynical, but I'm kissing Edge goodbye until next year. Like it's gonna be Alden Smith and Tyrone Crawford. I mean what, I'm sorry who Alden Smith needs to make the team first before we start. I'm talking about it. Who are we getting? Who are we getting that's gonna do something? Now?

I'm the ouch and Epanessa won't be there unless you're trying to trade up, which I mean maybe you could. Gross Matos. I'm not a big fan of his I wouldn't trade up for him. I like Epanessa more than him. But do you like Epanessa enough to get rid of your third round pick? I don't. I don't know, Dane, do you h And because I think that's the issue

with the Cowboys they needed some low price. There is a commissioner with the last pick here for the Kansas City chief with the second pick, Dane always gets stut off by the commission A Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs like Flyde Edwards Hilaire running back LSU sometimes another time, let's go, let's go, glad. I'm so excited. Really, we couldn't tell so, I mean, you know, I think I said this at the top of the broadcast. Actually I just hit my bold prediction. By the way, well done.

I might have I might have well placed sources in the LSU program. And uh, I was told by somebody who matters that the thiefs were enamored with Clyde and I totally understand why. And oh my god, who the hell is going to stop the Kansas City Chiefs this year? It's a conjection. Lamar checks. That's a good point. I

love I love the fit. I mean I mean, Clyde Edwards Alaric pretty kind of gone anywhere and that I would have loved to fit, but especially this team where they're going to give him turget out of the backfield. He was number two in all of FBS. It would catch his last thirty five. And my favorite part of it is he finds us hidden yards four yard runs for most running backs. He finds a way to get seven. And that's the difference between second and six and second

and three, and that's huge. So Edwards Hilaire, no problem with him coming off the board here. And like we said before, the Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with an undrafted running back offense and already dynamic offense. That's gonna be a lot of fun. Good luck Ac West, absolutely, And we got to wrap things up because the Dallas Cowboys post first round press conference is coming up here

in just a moment. But before we say goodbye, we do want to send our condolences to the Prescott family after the news of the passing of Jase Prescott today, Dak Prescott's brother. We wanted to send our prayers and thoughts to them in a very sad time. Of course, it's kind of bringing a somber into what was a great first round. But we didn't want to acknowledge that before we got off of here. But the Cowboys at pick seventeen pick up Set Lamb, the wide receiver out

of Oklahoma. Thanks so much for watching, Katie, Thanks for joining us today. We will see soon. We're gonna miss you over the next couple of days, but I know guys, love you guys. But for Kevin Turner, for Dame Brugler, for David Hellman, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long, We'll be back tomorrow or rounds two and three is The twenty twenty NFL Draft continues here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.