Draft Show: Adapting On The Fly

six weeks. There you go. The math is hard. Journalism isn't a math isn't until the NFL Draft six subsposedly in Las Vegas. Of course, the Dallas Cowboy question marks on web They're or not there is going to be. Yeah, some drafts festivities overall in Las Vegas. I mean, everything's kind of been shut down, but we are still here. We're ready to go. We have lost Jeff Cavanaugh at least for the week. He is doing something called baseball. Yeah,

he's a spring training whatever that is. And then David Helmett, Katie Kevin Turner across the table. I'm Kyle Lmens. Thanks for joining us here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. It's been a weird week. It really has because one, this is one of the most important weeks that we've seen in recent Dallas Cowboys news because of the contracts. It's it's the Big three cs is what it is. It's contracts, It's the CBA, and then it's coronavirus.

I was wondering, Yeah, okay, yeah, those are the three. Yeah, that's it's been dominating storyline. This week has aged me about a year, I think, and I mean, you know, you can have whatever opinion you want about the severity of all of this, but it's definitely become a story of worldwide prominence. Oh and by the way, the NBA is suspended its season. Yeah, the NHL looks like it

might suspend it season that right now. The NCAA tournament is currently set to be played behind closed doors, but I won't be surprised if that gets suspended as well.

So with six weeks to go, it's totally fair to wonder what that means for the NFL Draft, like as it sits right now, and obviously, like so much is going to change, but it wouldn't shock me if you know, we were joking before the show, like maybe they'll do the draft from a conference room, they might mean, and very good point, rightfully, So if it's in the best interest of the public, honestly, just take it into a convention center kind of like how they used to do it. Yeah,

I mean, throw it in. It's funny to think they get auditorium. It's funny to think that this whole thing used to just be you know, they called it like the Draft convention or something. You know, they're like, no, they called it the draft meeting. Like back in the day. They would just sit around a table and be like, oh, that guy, that guy, and I just go yeah, And obviously it's developed into something completely different. Yeah, much like the rest of the NFL. But maybe you go back

to that. I don't know. It's hard for me to imagine, unless things significantly improve over the next three to four weeks, that they're gonna want one hundred and fifty thousand people crowding into downtown Las Vegas. A couple things interesting that the NFL does, as they don't really announce next year's draft until, you know, after this year's draft, so they

do it draft weekend. Okay, so it really wouldn't be hard though, to go, Okay, Vegas, you're gonna get it again next year and do it the way they already make the pics remotely. Yeah, so you know, if it's Rich Eyes and of the NFL network for the TV deal, because that's what they're worried about obviously, not only the gathering of people, but they also want to make sure that people are watching on TV, which people will be doing no matter where are you do it. So that's

not a problem. You just go one year without having the big draft party, well it's it's probably a problem in the sense that hotel rooms have been booked for months and they were going to they were talking about they were talking about having the first round picks crossed like the Bellaggio fountain on a boat or whatever. So I no, I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of it. No, I'm not. That's not a joke. No, that's not going to bring them in on a boat.

And then they were going to drop them off on a dock and then from that dock they would walk up over the stage and so and of course it's not necessary, none of this is. But it's Las Vegas and it's the NFL. But I'm the point being is there's a lot of resources already committed to making this thing fantastic, and so you know that's money that Las Vegas and the NFL will probably have to eat, although if you push it back a year at least you have a chance to recoup that later. I mean to

your point. You know, people always ask me, They're like, oh, are you going to whatever city the draft is in for the draft, which on the surface makes sense, but not really because if it's our job to cover what the Cowboys are doing, everybody important for the Cowboys is about two hundred feet that way absolutely during the draft, and they have press conferences here, they bring the pick here,

so there's no real need to be out there. So if push comes to shove, if coronavirus prompts them to have to change up what they do with the draft, other than the lost revenue for Las Vegas, I don't think it would be a hard fix to just do this all remotely, because that's kind of what it is. Anyway. Well, and over the course of today's show, we're going to talk about some reckless comps. Of course, the Draft Show presented by Miller Line, We're gonna talk about reckless comps.

We're gonna talk about Twitter on the twenty. Of course, we'll keep that in the loop as well, But it's kind of sticking with this conversation. It doesn't really get real of a pandemic now, as the World Health Organization has deemed it. It doesn't necessarily get real until it starts affecting your personal life. Really, Now, some earlier than others were affected by this, but we're gonna start seeing some NFL draft coverage and exactly the entire draft process

starting to be affected by this. Pro days. What's gonna be the stigma around that, or we're gonna have media pro days, or we're gonna have pro days at all? Are those going to be canceled? I mean, you talked about some of these guys who didn't have measurements in the NFL combine because they're running at the Pro day, because they're doing those drills after Pro Days, and we may not even get a chance to see some of those guys and evaluates. So now I'm sure they'll do

a workout. I'm sure it'll be streamed or something with just minimal people in the building. But that's my question to you guys, is what are some of the options now best case scenario for really the entire draft process moving forward. That's a really good question. And I mean, yeah,

you're starting to see the effects of that already. You know, it sounds like at least a couple of staffs, you know, the Eagles, where one of them are like pulling their scouting staffs off the road until you get a better feel for this thing. You know. I've also heard like, you know, if it's possible, and it's definitely not in all instances, but if it's possible, I think scouts are going to avoid air travel in favor of driving. I mean,

it's a safer, safer prospect. And again, you know, Oklahoma's pro day was yesterday. Obviously Cowboys scouts can get to that without an air without an airplane. Yeah, and there was a crowded house. Yeah, they're no doubt it was like knowing for Hurtz and Gallamore and Ceedee Lamb or I think it. I think it still will be. I don't know. I mean, this is all so much up in the air, but I think a lot of this stuff And again because I mean I know a lot of scouts go to pro days, but it's still you know,

it's it's not thousands of people. You're probably talking about eighty to two hundred people, depending on how big the prode is. And so I'd be curious to see how many of them actually get outright canceled or or shut down or something like that, because the size of the crowd leads me to believe you could probably still do it with minimal risk. But but they're really just getting started like these were in the early days, like they kind of hit their peak at the end of March

in early April. So I'm curious to see how all this affects what these schools do. Wisconsin knocked out their pro day yesterday too, Auburon was like early las week. Yeah, no, I mean crazy some of them. Some of them knock it out the week after the combine, which I always I see that as silly because if you can't work out at the combine, you're probably not gonna be ready a week later. Yeah. I s went there for a reason because my guy Quintess c fist the wide receiver. Yeah,

did he run up better? Forty? He turned his four seven three into a four five six? Are you serious? So yeah, and it's pro day. State cut him off at thirty eight yards. Wisconsin gave him point one seven seconds at the PROD. You know, I'll say this, though I don't know. My reckless comp for him is Michael Gallut by the way, Yeah you've said it, but we know you love quintet. Jeffrey Okuda from Ohio State. He said that's the best wide receiver he faced all year.

He did say, keep that in mind. Wow, quintest cefas back on the round four radar. I mean, it's funny though. I actually I talked to a scout in Indie and we were kind of talking about pro days and combine times and all that, and I've always thought that was silly, like you know, you know, people will say like Ohio State has a downhill track or you know, it's a fast track. Brought us to tell you that, which I'm unreal and I've been rolling my eyes. It brought us

for six years. And this scout was like, oh, oh no, Like it's it's a thing like these guys are most of these guys are going to run significantly better times at their prote is. I just think that's fascinating and why run at the combat? Yeah, seriously, it's a really good point. Put a bad time out there, probably because the same scouts will ding you for not wanting to compete, like wanting to stand on your workouts. I don't know, I'm dinging guys for not washing their hands. Yeah, that's

I think that's the big one. Now, not having hand sanitizing nearby, that's a big thing. Some lights all over here and that's yeah, we do have a ton of ice al and sprayed it down earlier. But with all this being said, and kind of going back to that conversation we're having earlier and you kind of brought this up a little bit, how are guys going to be tested going into this process because you don't know where it's been and what kind of dude sickness and contact

they've been having. We talk about some of the behind the scenes stuff. I mean, Ross Blacklock had thirty seven parking tickets during his time at TCU, and it's all these background things. What are these things like staff's gonna have to look any of these guys been to Italy recently? I don't know which. You know, it's it's not the draft, but it affects the draft. I was thinking about this in regard to free agency. There's I mean, there's debate

about whether you need to move that back. I don't really think you do, because I mean, again, this is something you can all do remotely, like free agency has done via smartphone these days. But at the same time, though, like you, I don't know, do you want to give out like a sixty million dollar contract to a guy that might have coronavirus? I mean, and I don't. I'm not. I'm not trying to be flippant or make a joke about it. I'm dead serious. Like that seems like pertinent

information if you're gonna be handing out major contracts. It's the same conversation that we've had in the past about guys who have injury histories in the draft. I remember the Auburn off It's environment if a few years ago Sean Coleman and he had cancer growing up, like he had cancer as a kid. Yeah, And it was like, well, do you have to ding him a couple of runs because the chances that that comes back greater for him

than someone else. And like, Okay, I'm sliding this guy down the board thanks to something he's gotten no control over. It's a very hard thing to you know, the hard pill to swallow, but it's also something that realistically needs to happen. One thing I thought about is think about the thirty visits who are going to come in. Oh, these guys, not only for the teams who are bringing these these kids in, but also I'm got to visit with the Cowboys, and then I've got to visit with

the Raiders. Then I'm gonna visit with the Lions. Oh, by the way, the Redskins want to see me, and the Panthers want to see me. And then like these guys are really visits. They're flying all over the place. Yeah, I mean, if you are, if you are on a lot of lists like that. I remember, um, and obviously he's a top five pick, but teams, teams, you know, the Cowboys bringing guys from every round of the draft.

I just remember in twenty sixteen, z Zeke must have hit twelve teams in like in fourteen days he was on. I mean, just one thing after another, Like he went from Philly to Dallas to wherever the hell else Cleveland and yeah, I mean that's and and you can't do all that in a car. So that's a really interesting conversation about how they might have to alter this thing if if this virus is really is as contagious as

it seems to be. It's kind of too late to like sit really locate a thirty visit, you know, schedule together like a speed dating things like everybody meet at the Omahawk Convention Center and we'll give smack dab in the middle of the country. You'll give each team a table and you just ten minutes. But don't you, like, don't you want to talk to the guy? Yes? Especially, I mean like I feel like that's very important. I don't think you get enough time before you make these solves.

Isn't then already what they do basically at the combine, it's fifteen minutes speed dating, but informal. But that's the thing is you don't get you don't get the real feel for it. No, and you're limited to forty five guys, so you're picking and choosing. Like the thirty visits, it's a it's a whole thing. I mean, they're here, they spend a night here, they're here for a day and a half, they meet everybody, and we talk about this

every year. They almost always draft guys, especially in the first round that they got their hands on and really got a feel for when they came here. Also, not to mention, of course coaches, just getting to know a guy, getting to talk through schemes and boards and kind of

just look at specific fits. I mean, I know we've talked about scheme fit versus best player available and stuff like that, but you get to just kind of know the guy personally, know what kind of football i Q he has, and have kind of just a better overall look at these guys instead of just saying, hey, how's it going and kind of talk during the NFL combined. But we'll put all the coronavirus talk in the rear view mirror for now. But I do want to add a fourth seed to our big three cs. How about

comp picks? Because she buried the lead. Yeah, yeah, there's another comp pick, so we got a fifth round pick. Yeah for Cole Beasley. I said this, I said this

on the break yesterday. Is you know that that smart front office player right there, And it's what I've been begging for the Cowboys to do for years, is you know you don't have you don't have to spend one hundred million in free agency to be aggressive and going down going to get Robert Quinn for a sixth round pick, a guy who was capable of getting you eleven and a half sacks, arguably the best player on your defense last year, and they basically got the pick right back.

You know, I think there's a they they got picked one seventy nine in exchange for Beasley, and I believe they gave up pick one ninety seven, So you're talking about a twenty pick difference, So you're actually you're actually picking earlier and on the field getting rid of your six And on the field, Cole Beasley gave the Bills sixty seven catches, almost eight hundred yards, six touchdowns. Randall cob give you fifty five touches, You've have catches over

eight hundred yards. We're gonna say a copy had a very comparable season and one year and five billion dollars and Cole Beasley signed a long rom deal and Buffalo like it was just the smart, smart play. It's it's the type of thing I've been begging for the Cowboys

to do for years. The one I always go back to is like the Eagles swapped draft picks three or four years ago for Timmy Jernegan like a highly talented guy devalued a little bit, but still a good player, and lo and behold, he goes and becomes a big part of their rush, you know, during their Super Bowl year. That's just that's the type of stuff you have to do, and it's it's nice to see the Cowboys pull something

like that off. They get rewarded for it, so they're at their full allotment of draft picks even after trading for a pro bowler. Very smart. Hopefully they continue to do stuff like that. And it's crazy how overlooked comp picks and kind of the strategy and the chess game that's around those is kind of It's crazy how overlooked it is whenever it comes to the NFL, because look at who would you say, over the past twenty years has been the best front office? Well, I know the

answers to these questions. Patriots, Yeah, and they've got four yeah, compared to everyone else who's at three or less. But who had the most over like the last twenty years. Oh, I do not know that question. Arguably, if not the Patriots one of the best run front offices in the league. Baltimore, they get cop picks every single year they use them

on good, good players more often than not. I love the way they run stuff, but I mean, and it's it's a tricky thing to get into because the NFL doesn't reveal the formula that's you know, people are asking like, oh, well, the Cowboys. The Cowboys will get a cop pick for Byron Jones if he leaves right, and I'm like, probably, but it depends on how much you spend in free agency,

who you bring in, how much those guys play. But I mean, for the size of the deal Byron Jones is about to get, it's a pretty good guess that they'll get. I would assume a third round pick for how much you think Byron's gonna get in like ninety million dollars overall seventeen years. I'm about to say you tweeted out a couple days ago. I can't remember if it was Monday or Tuesday, but you said something along the lines of this contract is gonna be crazy for

Byron Jones. He's gonna be the highest paid cornerback in the league. And you know, he only has two picks, and a lot of people care about that, and so people who don't know his name or Cowboy fans who have been watching him for five years and don't think that much of him because he doesn't get picks. They're going to see that number and freak the hell out.

But he's going to get a lot of money. It's gonna kind of turn around the thought process when it comes to corners though, right the fact that it's resetting the market and he's not a guy who is. I think that depending interest. I think that depends on who you talk to, because there's a lot of people our dear Jeffrey Cavanaugh. Absolutely, there's a lot of people who think the world of him and say, look at his coverage numbers, look at what teams do when they target him,

aka nothing. And then there's just as many people that are like, you can't give that much money to somebody who doesn't help you get turnovers, and so I think

people are going to be really split. I mean, you go back to twenty eighteen, Byron was named All Pro off the strength of a season where he had no picks, and I remember at the time, the Cowboys coaching staff was impressed and stunned that that that that was possible, and they were like, good on everybody in the league for watching tape, because if you're not watching the tape, you're not realizing what Byron's doing. But he was instrumental to the defensive success that year, so I think he's

worth it. But I don't begrudge people who you know, say well, you got to at least get your hands on a football, Like, yeah, it's a fair criticism. Well, it's kind of like and you mentioned the break earlier. We talked about it on Talking Cowboys a little bit this week too, and Mickey'spagnola was saying, let's just resign everybody. It's kind of different whenever you've got a quarterback that's about to get paid and potentially a wide receiver and

then you've got to shore up the depth defensively. Yeah, whenever you've got a guy like that, if this was any other off season for the Dallas Cowboys, you would probably find a way to keep Byron Jones. He would exactly.

We'll find that out on And that's kind of where I'm leading, is that you don't have that that you have to use your tags elsewhere at least so we see, And of course, the CBA being decided this weekend, all of it being postponed both the CBA vote and also the start or the transition tag and franchise tag deadlines those being pushed back as well to Monday, and then we get into free agency or the legal tampering period one second later. Next week is going to be absolutely bonkers.

And that is before you throw in the wrench of the coronavirus, Like you don't know what could happen or what could change or I mean, seriously didn't didn't yesterday Wednesday, March eleventh. I mean, there were enough stories to fill about a month YEP in about an eighteen hour span and St. Patrick's Day parade. Who on earth knows what could be waiting for us on the other side of this weekend. And that's not without thinking that, like the NFL is going to do the CBA, the tags, and

then free agency all in about seventy two hours. It's going to be wild. That is wild, and it was a little bit eerie to think about. But at the same time, that's what you kind of do right now. I mean, going into yesterday, to your point, nobody had any idea that all of these men's basketball tournaments and March Madness tournaments are being canceled. Nobody knew that was going to happen going into yesterday. Now there had been some rumors. The NBA then got suspended, and then all

of that kind of ensued. We delayed the CBA voting. Is that going to be delayed again or are we going to try and get this done before things really kind of get out of hand? Which, and I mean, I know this isn't directly draft related, but I think it. I think it's relevant just because of how much it all ties together. It's extremely relevant. And not only I mean not only in the sense of like how the

league might operate, but just from the Cowboys standpoint. Next week marks, I mean, they have a lot of work to do, really, I mean, obviously they're doing all the work on the draft, as are we, but they got a lot of work to do in free agency before they even know what their strategy needs to be. What's the priority in the draft. Yeah, So it's gonna be it's gonna be a really interesting seven or eight days here.

We're finally going to see exactly maybe what that strategy could turn into for the Dallas Cowboys, because right now we're saying, if Byron's around, you could kind of stretch it go safety, maybe even play around at wide receiver early in the draft. And then if Byron's gone, I'm worried about defensive line. That's another one as well. I mean, there's plenty of options and plenty of decisions to be made.

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at the Star in Frisco. Kevin Turner, David helm and Kyle Yeoman's with you that Allas Cowboys dot Com Draft show presented by Miller Lane. Glad you're with us. Let's take a look at Twitter on the twenty Twitter on the twenty way. Of course, a big week of decisions throughout for the Dallas Cowboys in really the NFL in general, with all of the different speculations and whatnot going through whenever it comes to the coronavirus and then CBA like we talked about in that first segment. But I want

to ask a Dave Hellman question. Oh boy, this is I'm gonna keep it simple for you, please do this guy doesn't have a name on Twitter. Okay, oh he doesn't even have a picture of anything. But I think I don't even know who this basketball play. Oh, it's Crusoe from the Lakers. Is this profile picture? This is an egg? It's a Twitter egg. No, maybe wide receiver at seventeen or riot go. I mean, is that a question rioting? And it depends on it honestly depends on

what happened. I mean, it's sat there is there is smoke that a Marie Cooper could be signed before he hits free agency. That's that's separate from the question of like a tag or anything like that. I mean, if a Marie Cooper is not on this team, then hell yeah, yeah. I mean they need they need to draft a receiver, and they need one that can make an instant impact. That's prop Honestly, that's Jerry Judy and Ceedee Lamb are the two that I'm just no doubt whatsoever that they

could make a rookie impact. I don't even know if I trust Rugs to do that. I don't either in a receiver corps where there's no Amari Cooper to lean on, I don't know if I trust him to be to be the number one to be that guy. Yeah, and so yeah, if if Cooper's not on this team, then I think that skyrockets to the top of your priority list. Having said that, I think he is on this team one way or another, by hooker, by crook. I think they find a way to keep him here. Let's play

it that way. Then, Okay, Cooper's here. Yeah, wide receiver or right. And that's that's what I keep going back to. Obviously, like team forty Burger, I love to talk about it. I'm very intrigued by it. I wouldn't hate that pick, but there's just so many other things they need to do. This wide receiver class is so deep seven. I mean, if Cede Lamb is there, if he falls all the way, which I don't really believe. It looks like he had a really nice prote yesterday in Norman made another circus

catch um, it would be tough. And that's I mean. So you're like a wide receiver arguably the best wide receiver in the class, or cornerback number two CJ. Henderson, safety number one, Grant Delpit, who you know, maybe you don't feel great about him at that spot. Yeah, I think that's the debate. See, if I feel like I'm reaching for a player, then I have no problem doing that.

But like, but by how much of a reach, though, Like everybody's like, oh, trade back to twenty six and take Delpit there and how to pick, Like, Okay, that's great in theory, but like, what if you can't it's easy to talk about that hardly ever happened. And if Grant, if Grant Delpit's good enough to take a twenty four, is it like this stupid to believe that. I'm sure.

I think positional depth in the draft does matter, and we know that Will McClay, at least in his tenure, has taken a real good look at that depth in the draft and how they've map things out as you should, and but sometimes to their detriment, yes, but sometimes it's been okay as well. I mean, it's funny because the Taco pick was a failure. But the strategy we talked about this on a previous show, The strategy work. The strategy. They got two cornerbacks capable of contributing right away in

the second and third round. They just didn't draft the right defensive end. But and that's kind of my point, is we all agree that you could find a receiver capable of contributing right away as late as like the fourth round. Yeah, I don't feel I really I don't love this safety class beyond Grant Delpit, Xavier McKinney, Ashton Davis. I'll throw in Kyle Dugger, even though I don't think the Cowboys will draft him in obviously, Antoine Winfield, I

don't even know about that. Okay, that's I don't I don't feel great if you don't draft the safety at seventeen. I don't feel great about a guy I love being there at fifty one. Like I don't know if yeah, I don't know if I don't giving up on a potential starter if you don't draft safety at seven. And so that's my point is, I think, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but I can get a badass receiver at pick eighty two. I know I can. I think last year was kind of an eye opener

and how teams feel about the safety position in general. Yeah, when you saw those guys kind of fall the Taylor Rap and one Thorne Hill and Nasir Adelie, we saw, now, I'm you're baking on that to happen again, and that's that's risky business. It is, and we've seen teams really go pay safeties. Earl Thomas, the honey Badger. We've seen him. You guys get paid at the safety position. This team is refrained from taking safeties for a long time now, but I don't see them spending a premium pick on

a safety. And that's I've been saying it. I've been saying that for weeks. It's like, if if Grant Delpit's not as good as Derwin James, then why should I believe that they're going to draft him at seventeen. But at the same time, another LSU guy, Tyron Math, you just showed you the value of a versatile safety with ball skills, because like safety doesn't even do the position justice because Tymer Matthew played about five spots for the Chiefs,

and I think Grant Delpit could do that too. I've whittled it down to one guy I'm excited about at seventeen, and it's dangerous because he probably won't be there. You got kin Law, And you know what I do this most every year that the Cowboys are picking right in the middle. I whittle it down to guys I'm excited about it that area. I don't mind being in the middle. It's not a good spot. You whittle it down to

one player. Well it was Hey, it was little dead to two players and Zach Martiniere and it was Ryan Shazier and Zach martin I was like, oh, yeah, great. I mean no, it will be. It will be whittled down by April. But like right now, I just think there's too many possibilities for me to zero in on one guy. To answer the question more directly, I would be excited, but well, you're not gonna riot. I mean no, I would be excited if they picked the receiver, but

if they don't, that's a responsible strategy. I'm not gonna be mad about it. Well they I feel way better about Team forty Burger happening with McCarthy then with Garrett here because Garrett did not want to play that way. That's a great point. That's a great point. But Dave, kind of going back to what you said kind of early on where you were talking about safeties that you

weren't really excited about fifty one. You threw out some names, but one name he didn't throw out was Antoine Winfield Junior. I know you said he would be there at fifty one. I threw him in at the very end when you brought up Chin. He's in that mix because a lot and this is it's the funny, the funny thing about the draft, to Katie's point, like we were in love with with Thornhill and Rap and there was another one love with Xavier Woods and Desmond King and those guys

went in the sixth and seventh round. All those guys fall, They fell last year, So it's conceivable. I know people that don't think Winfield is a top fifty pick because of his length. He's five nine big. I think there are people that think he was so impressive at the combine and you add that to what he's got on tape and they're like, this guy doesn't fall out of the top. You know he doesn't. He's picked forty five. Yeah,

so there's no way to know for sure. I'd be ecstatic to draft Antoine Winfield at fifty one, but I don't. I don't feel great that he will be there for you See, I'm kind of in the same boat. I've yet to find anyone who could come up and look me in the eye and give me anything aside from size and injury history that's concerning about him. Yeah, because

everything else is exciting. All IQ is there I mean, his dad was a fourteen year veteran in the league, and he literally and I've got a story coming out on the Blitz later this week, but he literally would sit in bed and watch tape with his dad at eleven years old of his dad trying to cover Calvin

Johnson trying to cover Bancatron. So he got a football IQ lesson from such an early age that he might be one of the smartest in terms of draft prospects, football IQ and knowing when and where to be in the entire draft. I think his time at the combat I think you're in a four eight, which you know for safety that's actually not too bad. But like you watch you on tape and you're like, Okay, he's moving pretty fast here, Like he's moving around, he sees plays fast.

He's a pretty good tack where he will hit. He plays with attitude, he has bull skills. You know, to me, the size is a problem, and we all know that the size is a problem. But so there's some things you just can't, Like, you can't have everything you want. You're not in a lab making robots here. Look, he's five nine. I don't know what to tell you. You You either, okay with it or you're not. And a lot of teams are not gonna be okay with it. I'm personally

okay with it because of the other things. He actually ran at the combine. He actually ran a four four five. He had to say he was really good. He had a fav combine. I haven't updated my spring time on him, which a four five eight. He's one of my, you know, five to ten favorite prospects in the whole draft. I would be ecstatic. It's it's just interesting how teams value these guys, though, because I'm thinking about Taylor Rapp. We spent the whole spring saying he won't even be there.

He goes three picks after the Cowboys pick last year, and then another one that always comes to mind. Kat, you're Green Bay Packers. Remember how much we liked Darnell Savage. Yeah, we liked him as like a third round pick. Yeah, fourth for me. They made him. They traded up a thirty, they made him a first round pick up, They traded up from thirty to go up to twenty one and get him. There's just and he was great. No, and

he hit a great year. There's no way. But there's just no way to know how these teams value these guys, and you know, you never know, like because and there's also and you know, Taylor Rap had medical issues that that you know, weren't highly publicized. And he was slow. Yeah, and he was slow and it was but the Sire Adderley fluid mover. The big knock on him was he played at Delaware. You know, that was the kind of

thing with him, and did he want to tackle? And he slides and you know, get information in all kinds of different ways. But I heard the great line that you know, this team here for Darnell Savage was day three. No, they were terribly excited. They didn't know what the hell the Packers were doing. Ye. Yeah, So it's it's it's curious. I mean, between his tape and what he did at the combine. I mean, hey, I'm five six. I don't

give it. I don't care at all that uh that Antoine Winfield's five nine bring them on well kind of going at least name wise with the first question. The first question was wide receiver or riot. The name of this Twitter account is draft CD for another TDUM, So that's the the legitimate name, and it's got some emojis on there, but it doesn't have anything to do with wide receiver. Who can the Cowboys afford to pass on more? I think I might know Katie's answer to this question,

Javon kin Law or CJ. Henderson since the interior defensive line and cornerback class is not very deep. Kind of going along with the same thing we were talking about with the safeties. But who's the who's the worst one to pass on? You want to go first? Well, part of it does? I have kin Lall graded way higher than C. J. Henderson, So let's put it that way first. So that's one part of it. I think there's an

Anthony Brown component in free agency that we'll find out. Yep, if they're going to be willing to if he will take it might be up to him how much he wants to be here, you know, maybe one of those type of things. Um, And if it feels like Byron's gone, I still think you can get a cornerback in the second round. That would be to your liking. There's a chance to cornerback slide a little bit. And I don't think Trevon Diggs gets there, but there's a chance he does.

I don't think Christian Fulton falls that far, but I think there's a chance. I don't think it's nuts fifty one. I don't think it's nuts. Man. There's six guys. There are really five guys? Are all the corners everyone's been talking about? Right, there's no ways the Damon Arnette in there and make that six? So okay, Damon Arnette could fall that far. Okay, Yeah, absolutely he could, especially considering there's off the field question him as well. That was

my point. But Diggs and Trevon Diggs and Christian Fulton, I don't think they're not falling out of the top fifty. Most likely not. But just just play with me, may I'll play along, aren't it? Okay? And there's there's six guys. You like the Auburn guy, Yes, there we go, No way, no, Noah? His name? Say to these guys name people know the hell your nut of what? I always refrain from saying his name. I just say the Yeah, it's got like twelve letters in it. So so there's seven guys. I

just threw at you guys. All right, seven guys, there's gonna be a cornerback drafted once every seven picks in this draft because that's if you're picking up pick fifty one, that's what you gotta have one ever seven picks. So there's gonna be there's gonna be six offensive lineman yan. There's gonna be four quarterbacks for sure gone in the first round. Most likely there's going to be wide receivers taken. I feel like you're in a situation where you can

get a cornerback at fifty one. That would be pleasing if it'sive tackle. You know, who do you like? Do you like the Jordan Elliott Neville Gallimore type, Jordan Elliot from Missouri, Neiville Gallin from ok Do you like that type at fifty one more than you like one of these corners. Justin Mattabuque is the name that I think you should have circled. I think so too. I think you should have him circled for early second round. Yeah, he might not be there, he's on my not get

to fire. Both Justin Metabec out of AMM and then Ross black Clock from TCU. I think both of those guys who we had our eyes on and circled early, I think they're inching up away and out of reach, which is unfortunately. Here's where I go back to is I and we don't know. There's no way to know. But this team has so little in the way of defensive tackles they can't afford to not do work in free agency. And the interior defensive line crop in free

agency is so much better than the cornerback crop. Yeah, Like, you go down the list after there's about three names on the cornerback free agent list that pique your interest, and one of them you're letting way. I'm gonna say, one of them you're letting leaves. Yeah, Chris Harris is out there that could be a little out of the Cowboys price range. Maybe you bring back Anthony Brown. Bashad Breland is a name that's intriguing to me, but like exactly,

I mean, well, you know what, he's got history with McCarthy. No, for sure, and it's possible, but it's it's not a name that gets you excited. My point being, I think the Cowboys can address their d tackle needs a little bit better in free agency than cornerback, which is why I cannot discount C. J. Henderson simply because it feels like the perfect mesh of value and need in the censure. We need a guy you know he'll be under contract for five years. He can start right away if he

needs to. And it fits like I mean, he's the second or third best cornerback in the draft. That's exactly you know, seventeen sounds exactly right. And the position group's gonna have to be remade either way because next year Jordan Lewis and Cheetah are going to be free agents. And I guess another thing, I would say, there's really no point in having verbal warfare over this Twitter on the twenty question, considering that it's a question that's best

would be best answered with more information. You know that in two weeks two weeks, I can help you out here. And really, when he's not having enough information ever stopped us. If you're taking Henderson over kin Law, it better be because ken Law's knees are up, because ken Law is a better player than Henderson, just big boarding, stacking them up like Ken Laws the guy you better be high. To me, that's a weird thing to pass up right there.

If ken Henderson doesn't touch the upside that Ken Law has, if not even close. If ken Law's knee checks out, don't you feel like he's gone in the top fifteen. Anyway, he's probably not gonna be there. I do, And I think that makes the wide receiver thing become a little more of a topic. See, and here's what I was going to kind of pull up here, and we talked about safety a moment ago. We talked a little bit of wide receiver in that first segment. But if if

we're looking at CJ. Henderson or javon Kinlaw and then looking at the remainder of the draft, I think it's not out of the question that you would say neither one of these guys were drafted in the first round at seventeen, even if they're both there because years maybe a wide receiver that peaks interest. There's other positional needs you can fill defensive tackle and free agency, you can fill a cornerback spot in the second round of the draft.

You're you guys are talking me into the fact that safety or wide receiver and seventeen is not as crazy as we were kind of thinking, or I was thinking coming into the show, just because the sole fact that that I was I'm still sold by the way that wide receiver is not going to be there at seventeen. That's not what the Cowboys are gonna pick. I'm sold

on that. I don't think that's happening. But safety this kind of makes me think that it might be safer to go with a safety at seventeen, try and get a cornerback instead of C. J. Henderson in the second round. I just don't think they'll do that. I think they'll party at safety and free Agency. I hate they'll look around. And I also, I don't know. I could be wrong. It's a whole new, whole new regimes. It's hard to answer questions. Would anybody be surprised if Jeff Heath is

your starting safety next year? No, no, I know that's gonna crack. Everyone's not. I wouldn't be surprised. Turned into hypnosis, but like, like seriously, it wouldn't be nuts if like, oh, well, you know what the safety value the guy we like didn't fall into our labs. So we went because you know they're gonna address up front, and you know they're gonna address cornerback. Gonna hell, that's gonna happen. I'm gonna have a close well, assuming it happens with the coronavirus

and everything. But LSU is a late a late protame superl it's like April. It's April third. Yeah, I'm gonna have a close eye on it if it happens, because I think people are people are down on Grant delpit right now, but when he works out, oh my god, and the media is always behind the pros, right, like the pros don't need to see that. But when he works out, I think he's going to he's gonna vault back into the conversation because he's gonna put up some

freaky numbers. I think that'll be fun to watch. Let's do two more quick questions right, first one, what is the latest round you believe the Cowboys could draft a guy that is starting come September? Just period, period, I mean any position I always. I mean I think of the top one hundred picks, as you know, they should be contributing heavily, if not starting. I mean Michael Gallup started from day one is pick eighty one, but try

and Hill barely played as pick fifty eight. So I mean, if if you're doing your job right, I think the first three rounds should be starter caliber and then your fourth round pick has a has a chance depending on what position he play is what the need is, could you get a fourth round wide receiver. That's starting. I think that's that's sort I was about to go. That's kind of where I think this question is leading. If Cobb doesn't come back, then I think you're kJ Hill

from Ohio State DuVernay from Texas. You would love that. Michael Pittman, Michael Pittman's USC. I think they'll like John high Tower from Boise State. Yea is a gimmicky guy. You know, those are kind of Van Jefferson got hurt. He may fall a little bit, the wider super from Florida. Van Jefferson and man excellent route runner. But he's hurt a little bit. We could dock him a little bit. We know, surprised. We know the Cowboys full order now, by the way, thank goodness. So I think pick one

twenty three is their fourth round pick. Yeah, and you know we saw them go yeah. Once I'll check it for you. You'll have you'll have a good player there. It's my point, Yes, you will. So this is just pure reading between the lines, pure hunch. But I think Randall cop is back. I think he's back on a similar deal, maybe worth a little bit more. And so I don't think any unless they go at pick seventeen or fifty one, Like, I don't think a receiver that

they draft would start. But you know, Mikole Hardman, he was the second round pick for the Chiefs last year, didn't necessarily start, but was a valuable piece of that offense as their speed guy or another speed guy because they got a million of them. And kind of going back to Randall Cop really quickly here out of this past season. Of course, it's easy to fall in love with this wide receiver class. I mean all of us here have done, so we've fallen in love with this

wide receiver class. But a lot of people forget the kind of year that Randall Cop have it, especially at the beginning of the year. Did anybody have worse luck than Randall Cop. It seemed like every touchdown, every catch that he had, yeah, was just called back for a penalty. He had I think two or three touchdowns all back. He at least two in the first like month of this. Yeah, it was real early and a lot of people forget about that. He had a He had a nice season.

And I don't mean to dog him because I thought he played really well, but he all like him and Dak could not get on the same page in the crucial moments. He drops third down drop in New Orleans. That kind of changed the cops. Being the fourth quarter, there are some others if I think about him, Um, are you talking about to dive in the fourth quarter in the end zone or now that was the first quarter. No,

that wasn't quarter, third, third and five. It was a crossing route and I mean Dak threw it a little behind him, but it was definitely a catchable pass. He's always been a guy that They'll have some drops, so it may not be a starter, but like impactful. You can think tied that We saw them go tied in there a couple of years ago. A Dalton Schultz. Yeah, I think they have a better chance of getting a better tight end in that fourth round area because there's

Titans aren't top heavy, but they will start going. It's gonna be round through round four. Maybe I gotta keep an eye on. I think he's a pretty good rout running tight end and I think they met like because he could block a little bit too. Bryson Hopkins of Purdue, It's a guy I kind of like in that fourth round. You know that range right there or if he's sitting there. You go, man, I might as well take this guy.

And then I got Hopkins and jar One and let's go. Granted, we still don't know what's gonna happen with Whitton, but man, you look at Hopkins. Last year, sixty one catches had seven touchdowns. You guys saw him at the Senior Bowl. Of course, fifteen yards of catch. Get down the field a little bit. They're gonna try to get down the field. They're gonna try to be a faster offense. It's just gonna be a little different than it was. McCarthy is going to try to put up a thirty and forty burgers,

let's go. You know. So that's the type of pick I would kind of like if Hopkins or someone like that was still on the board. I know we've talked a little bit about Harrison Bryant from Atlantic, Yeah, FAU, you know that area. Maybe those guys could help you a little bit. But Hopkins is killmore route running, get a little swivel to his game, and I'd be highly interested in him if he were to fold to the fourth round, as it helped me there as a helper

one twenty three. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's any defensive players that could you know, Malike Collins star right away as a third round ship that was pick sixty seven, though it's a much higher pick. But you know, if a defensive tackle were to fall, you know, that's kind of a range too. And maybe I'm I'm a little further down on the guy than than like Jeff, Like Jeff loves the guy. But Terrell Burgess safety from Utah, Yeah, you know, maybe he could get to the fourth round. Man,

I don't know. Looking at the safety class, the safety class, if I I kind of think it's gonna stretch a little bit because the Ashton Davis is of the world, the Cayle Dugger, Jeremy Chen, you know, some of those guys could push it to maybe be one of the fourth round safety that you like. And Troll Burgess is kind of my fourth round safety. Got I've got to highlight it is okay, I would go there. His length makes me nervous. His finish on tackles makes me nervous.

Although Twitter Draft Twitter got all in my face tell me he's a reliable tackler. I think he's an okay tackler. I don't think he's reliable tackle. I think he's an okay tackler who doesn't need to be playing up near the line of scrimmage at all. There's anything I've learned about draft Twitter, it's that you can find an opinion on every player, like somebody hates everyone and somebody loves everyone. It's crazy, just the way it goes. It all just

piles on sixty seconds. One final question, Okay, what do you think of the Dallas Cowboys taking a linebacker and Ken and Murray out of Oklahoma in the first round after a report that they have a meeting scheduled with him. I mean, that's why, Okay, I don't want to if you're going three four, I'm okay with it. I just that's why I don't think meetings always mean everything, because I just think teams do their due diligence. I don't want to discount it completely, but man, we talked about

this in Indied that just and I get it. It's fair to worry about Layton vander esch'sil It's very fair. I don't think you should buy the line that he's one hundred percent okay and everything's fine. You don't have to believe that. You know, I'm not here to sell you propaganda, but I need more evidence that he can't stay healthy before I'm ready to just pull the plug. And that's what drafting a first round linebacker is to me, Like, well, this this guy just he can't stay healthy easy. You know.

It was a bad pick and we need to fix it right away. Like that's what a first round pick would signal to me if you took Kenneth Murray or Patrick Queen. I mean, so, either you're saying you don't think Layton's gonna play, or you have so little faith that you need a premium backup right now. I don't

like the idea of that at all. If you want, you know what I would love, you know, Anthony Hitchins was a fourth round pick, Sure find me that guy even at those for you, man, if the value lines up in the third round to where you say, yeah, a linebackers not a huge need, but this guy can play, yeah, I'm fine with that. But a first round pick on a position where you just drafted Layton, you got him for three more years, if you pick up his option and you just paid Jalen, that just leaves a really

bad taste in my mouth. Mike McCarthy says he wants good football players. Kenneth Murray's a really good football player. I mean that would go three four things could get interested. That would on rushing. That would be the ultimate could be interest. It would be the ultimate signal that McCarthy means what he says. Yeah, if they were to take ultimate test of BPA best player available, rather have a

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dollars down based on GWS one score. September twenty nineteen. This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft shows. Back here from the s WBC Mortgage studios, and we're dropping like flies in the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. It's down to me and Kati because Dave has scurried off elsewhere dealing with breaking news. Maybe I don't know. I think he's going to the restroom. But he'll be back here in just a couple of moments, and it's

time to get into some reckless comps. And Katie, you you brought up this idea a couple of weeks ago. We didn't get a chance to get to it, just solely based on the act of we're trying to get into our stock up stock down. When it came to the NFL combine, but this is a lot of fun. Kind of explain the reasoning behind a reckless comp Yeah. The premise is that, you know, there are some people who don't like to do comps. By comps, I mean player comparisons, And I'm not like a big fan of like, hey,

there's a player of comparison. Oh, it's the same person, because I think it sets on realistic expectations. But I do think sometimes when you're watching tape on these guys, you'll go, he reminds me of him, and he reminds me of him. So I like doing reckless comps, so I like being a little bit reckless some spear into the skid, yeah kind of feel. So it's like, basically, it's I've got a listen to about seven or eight

guys that I've seen him. When I watched him on tape, I wrote down on my notes he kind of reminds me of this, And that's just something. If you guys have some of your own, feel free to throw him out there. The first one that I have is, trust me, it's not the same thing at all. Oh gosh, but that's not being reckless. There's a few things that remind me of Teddy Bridgewater and Jake From. And I am not a Jake From a fan. I think going to

pick him in round two, I think that's a wasted pick. Okay, But some of the things and the question marks that were coming out about Teddy Bridgewater, some of the things that you talked about him, well, was his arm strength. It's not there is not enough arm strength, but pretty good touch, pretty good accuracy. You look at him in college, oh you had they had a bunch of you know, eight man boxes. You know, he had to deal with that a lot. Kind of see that with Jake From

a little bit we watched on tape. Some of the same questions about him. You have size issues with him, you have arm strength questions with him, but accuracy, game manager type, those type of stereotypes. I mean I kind of see the same thing exactly what Jake From is. And yeah, I mean with the running backs he played with,

that's no surprise and that's yeah. I never He's the classic case of like I don't know, if you're if you're a quarterback that's worth draft drafting high, then I should see you like really elevate your team, you know what I mean, Like elevate make plays that out of this world plays carry your team to wins that maybe they shouldn't have had otherwise. I don't know if I ever saw that from Jake From I think you occasionally

saw that with Justin Herbert and Oregon. Yeah. Uh. It's a little more difficult with Utah State because when Utah State's coach left it when went to Texas Tech, Jordan Love was not left with much to work with it Utah State. I mean, that's that's a tough part of it's interesting. I mean I remember thinking similar things about Jared Goff. Honestly, it was like, is cal really accomplishing as much as they should be? If Jared Goff is

the number one overall pick, that's all? And that's always just dangerous, like go trust what you're watching type thing. When I watched Jake from I don't always see a guy who is as accurate as you may read about, you know, I was like watching it going even even that the combine I ask consistent as people really make them out to be, he's not. He's not a lot on accuracy, and that's kind of one thing I've had to knock on him too. There's there's throws every down

again where it's like, what are you doing? Yeah, Bridgewater was a much better college player. Again, That's why it's a reckless comp There's gotta be a lot of criteria that goes along with this. Let's move it along to the next one. Hit me, Clyde Edwards Hilaire from LSU there running back to go Tigers. I see Devonte Freeman. Really, you don't see DeVante Freed at all. Tough runner, able to kind of jump cut, getting lateral. Sometimes he will

run through people. He's a bowling ball. And then no one really talks about his hands too much, like they're talking about how much of a runner is you know what. Coming out of Florida State, no one really talked about Davante Freeman as a pass catcher. They quickly learned, oh wait he can, yeah, because he went to the Falcons and they started to use him. So I think Clyde Edwards Hilaire Davonte Freeman makes a lot of sense. I think he probably goes you know, round two. I'm gonna

go real snob on you real quick. It's Elaire. Oh dude, trust me, I've ever been one of those like pronunciation police. I'm from the country man, I pronounced toilet toolet Oh, yeah, it's like I like it. I still choose day man. It's fine. I'm not professional broadcaster guy. I've never been that. I saw. I saw a mock draft that had Clyde going to the chiefs as if they need another weapon. Man, that's got fun. That would be really, that would be

really fun to watch. I like. No, I like that comp a lot because I mean Freeman really he came on so much because of his abilities as a pass catcher, and I absolutely see Clyde doing something similar. I've always kind of looked at Clyde as a guy almost like a Frank Gore type, where it's kind of just a stocky bowling ball, and I know he's a little bit more lateral to go Gore's straight line straight up the middle. And I don't think they running size, but I'm talking

about size in general. I think it just kind of That's what it reminded me on tape. Now, if you want to get a little bit more, go for it, Clyde. I mean, and I get it. It's an easy it's too easy because they're both short. But Clyde just reminds me of darren Sproles impossible to tackle a low center of gravity. Yeah, all of his strength is in his lower body. Can cut on a dime, pieces catches the

ball well, I mean Sprawls especial. I mean he's been great everywhere, but man, he was so Sprawls is a little thinner though, isn't he He's I mean Sprawls is even smaller than Sure. Yeah, you know, but just their games are so similar to I just less gimmicky. I mean, Clyde is more of a every down and back. Yeah, he can do that. You know, look at me at fifty five catches last year. He showed on tape that he could be a pass catcher. You know what. Devantae

Freeman come out of college. I think he had about that many catches in three years at Florida stew I mean he never had a year of more than twenty catches. I mean he got to the NFL and I remember we were watching him. I loved him coming out of the draft. It was at twenty fourteen or whatever year that was. And one of the things that I had

checked over the oh he could catch. They just gotta go somewhere where he's used in that regard Atlantis, dumping it off to him all the time, and he shows everyone. Let's keep it going. We're short on time, Donovan, People's jones. He's a wide receiver from Michigan. Yes, he's a he's a workout warrior. Was workout warrior. Production was question questionable? Okay,

did not I'm not okay, sorry, keep cutting you off. Well, my reckless comp for him is Josh Dockson both six two both, you know, right around that four five forty sub four or five guy jump ball Guys, you know, don't always see everything you want to see consistently. You don't always see great route running. But when it was time to throw the ball up to a guy, you know, that's what happened at their schools. And you know Dockson went in the first round. People's Jones is not gonna

go in the first round. He did not knew near enough to be drafted that high. But some teams going to take a shot on him, and it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up in the top one hundred, just because he's got freaky athletic traits and he could be a you know, way more than what he was in college. As long as we're talking about it was Docks in twenty seventeen. Don't don't worry about it, because I got it a tough one. I got a receiver cop. I think I've told you that before and I actually

and you didn't like it. I don't care, um, James Proche, Okay, Well, like this reminds me of DJ Moore, which I know remember you saying, Jo He's not I mean, he's not going in the first round, man, But I love DJ Moore so much because, like, not the most imposing guy, you know, I'm looking at him. He's five eleven two fifteen, like he could he could be a running back if he wanted to be. And Proche is a little lighter, but he's he's five. He's almost five eleven two oh

one was his combine measurement. And like they look like running backs when they get the ball in their hand, like they're just they're hard to tackle, they have incredible vision and then obviously Proche catches everything you throw his way. Yeah, I and more power to this receiver class because if that's going to push him down. You talk about a fourth round pick, that would make me do a backflip. James proche and I mean, yeah, he's not a first round pick like DJ Moore, but I just think their

games are really similar. There's a history with those SMU wide receivers too, Dallas Day Guy as well, Dallas Day Guy. This we're not gonna spend a lot of time on same uniform. Marsham Lattimore, Jeffrey Okuda Ohio State. Both clear number one cornerbacks in the class. I've got that both fluid and man cover corners. Just ridiculous. kJ Hill from Ohio State, Jarvis Landry, wow se, holy cow, bring it outs, reckless, Neither guy gonna blow up the combine. Both find a

way to get open went with their smarts. Highly competitive attitudinal guys, and not in a bad way, in a way that's good. You know that guy who's it's third and four, I'm gonna get it to this guy and he'll go get the catch for me, is gonna find a way to get enough separation. And you don't always know how because they're not burners, but they just do a great job of manipulating the defender. Just a guy that understands how to get open. kJ Hill is a

poor man. Jarvis Landry and I think that's very interesting. I love that com I want to go. I know we're running out of time, but the Lattimore Accuda pick just perked my interest because Lattimore was similarly hyped to Akuda, like can't miss number one cornerback prospect. He fell to eleven Hammy, he chronic Cammy, he had Hamster. Remember there are big questions. Honestly, I don't three years ago feels

like a lifetime. You know who else in that same draft because another thing that Latimore had to deal with is Malik Hooker was also highly touted, which he fell as well, and he fell as well because of his frame and he was skinny, and teams were worried if he could he could tackle or whatever. But yeah, I can move like that and make plays on the ball. Then you don't think about it. I just I mean it. I just wonder because I could see Okuda going number

three overall. I could also see him quote unquote sliding to the lowered ten like, yeah, eight or nine, not a huge slide, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. Derek Brown of Auburn. If it's a tackle a Keem Hicks Chicago Bears big time playmaker. Uh I'll just spend a lot of time on that one though, Zach Bond, Wisconsin, go ahead and do it. Just just Kyle van Noy, Okay, go no, it's going to see Yeah,

really not that similar at all, cal van Noy. You've watched van Noy, who now with Detroit, but after years with the Patriots, we've all seen him. He's back in New England now he was with Detroit. Yeah, sorry, Detroit traded him for a sack of nuts. He turned into a great player when you watched him. Not only does he rushed the pastor, but he can cover two. And that's what you see with Zach Bond. What is the team going to do with him both in that kind of six two sixty three range? Uh So, I think

that's an interesting, reckless comparison. Also, not to mention Van Noy's going to be a free agent. I believe this season, right, I believe he is. Yeah, he's a free agents now, I think so. I hope I think they look Yeah, I hope the Mike McCarthy Cowboys are a little more willing to draft that type of doesn't necessarily have a roll Swiss Army knife player where Yeah, it a great way. That will the Patriots have built their defense that way and it's been one of the best in the league.

Now we are out of time, But I want to jump in on the fund here because I haven't given a compo gonna cap this off. Jalen Hurts. What's the question around Jalen Hurts? Caccuracy, process the field, processing the field, a little bit of recklessness, release, different kind of fundamentals. So what do you got. I'm gonna make everyone in Cowboys Nation upset right now? Okay, Dak Prescott. Comparison between Jalen Hurts way more way winter athletic than Dak. Yeah,

way more athletic. But Dak's got his pluses a little bit more so than Jalen. On another couple of things, Jalen Hurts go in on a good team and go win games. I think so if he goes to the right system, I think you probably could. They're probably gonna go right around third and fourth round in March of his draft process. I don't think anybody believed that about Dak. No, so no, but this whole thing, if we've spent all these years like killing Lenahan and Garrett, but in that

twenty sixteen year. That was the perfect thing for day. Really was that system, Like that situation was really good, I think. I mean, it's always interesting, so oh, use pro days out of the way. Jalen Hurts killed it. He had an awesome workout. Great. I tend I don't value Pro Days for quarterbacks that much because you're throwing to two guys who've been throwing to all year. Uh, and it's scripted to be in your favor, you know, like you're obviously you're going to throw routes that you

feel good about, no doubt. But I can knock the guy like, he looked great. I mean, I wonder what his ceiling is like. I don't think I would draft him in the second round, no, but I mean somebody might. Somebody might take a chance. I can convince myself that somebody would. For think somebody might if they'd need a premium backup or they've got a veteran aging quarterback. Okay,

there's a way to go. I'm not saying any of these guys will be successful, but as long as we're being reckless, I think I would feel better drafting Jalen Hurts than not just Jake from but Jacob Eason as well. Like I'm I'm not sold on either of those guys. I'm not and I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm sold on Jalen Hurts as an NFL quarterback, but I think there's more potential there. Sure. Well, we've been reckless with our comps and we've also been reckless with our

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