Draft Show: 2018 Review & Who to Watch in 2019

want scouting buddies. Dame Burglar, David Hellman, Hey, Brian, gentlemen, welcome back. I've got to get you off the road for a little bit and uh talk a little since we have a bye week here. It's kind of a tradition that we have here with the Draft Show of putting something out for you just kind of gets you some names, some thoughts. You know, the Cowboys are in a situation right now where we've we've you know, they've

made a trade. Yeah, so now it's really about you know, no first round pick, But that doesn't deter what we do on the Draft Show because now, to me, guys, it's about really having to dig in you know, not that the Draft Show doesn't dig in, but it's now it's about really digging in and and and and and finding names and you know, thinking of creative ways to get back in, take the players there in the second

round or whatever you have to do. I think this is gonna be honestly, I think it's gonna make the draft show him better. I think it's gonna make us tougher to have to come up with with a lot of different names, a lot of different ideas. But that's what the Draft show is all about. Yeah, I right about that, David him, Well, it's I think I agree with the premise of what you're saying. But basically, you

just gotta rethrink your strategy. Yeah, you gotta reading because you know what, this is the third or fourth year we've done the bye week Draft Show, and you know, you look back at last year and then you talk about big time prospects for next year. But this year that's Amari Cooper now, and you spent that first round pick, and so it's your whole strategy. I mean, are you still thinking about wide receiver as a need? Probably not, probably not early? What is a need? What is what

can you realistically get with your second and third round picks. Yeah, where's the class deep? Because of all of a sudden, that's even more important than it usually is. Uh. If you can't use a first round pick on a guy, so uh, it turned my whole world upside down. And I'm excited change the way we think about it. Yeah, I'm excited about because to me it I just want I want to be tougher. I want to make you know,

I want the draft show. So you're gonna do like eight hundred names like Dane now or Yeah, you know that's what I want to do. We're starting already. Yeah, he and I've already we've already started cracking us. By the way, there's a defensive tackle Alabama. Well do you like this guy at Houston? This guy at Alabama is better Quinnon William Yes, yeah, yeah, if you like, If you like Oliver trust, so, how are we gonna get him? Yeah? That's well, you know you got to talk about these cats.

We will. Yeah, we know. To me, if you ask me, I think the draft is even more important now for the Cowboys. Yeah, you cannot miss on these second and third round picks. You can't. Absolutely when draft weekend comes around and listen, nothing's changes for the Cowboys. Scouts changes and keep great players. I mean, does end changed for us? Because when you know you trade for a Maori Cooper, you know part of that goes back to your value

in two thousand? Uh was it fifteen? Yeah, they knew they had no shot out of Maury Cooper, you know that, right, right, So, but they still did their due diligence and that played into you know, now him being a Cowboy. So they're still doing no due diligence on all these players. And you ever know they might have a top ten pick on a player that falls to pick twenty seven, maybe you think about moving up. You'll get him a Noah fan from Iowa. Tight end, you know, one of these guys.

So look at him, look at We'll be talking about is he Is he better than George Kittle? He's in He's an Evin Ingram type. You know, he's more of a wide out than a Cowboys don't want him. Cowboys don't want to get him out here. You want to around DAC with guys that can play. Yeah, no a fan can play. Yeah. So I'm tight Ends aren't bad man, don't be looking at me. I mean, I mean I was. I was watching some tight ends with him today. I'm just making a joke about how cowboys need their tight

ends to block I know you're right about that. Hey. By the way, guys, I want to also welcome on board once again our friends at Miller at Miller lte Man. You know that they're always going to be a sponsor the Draft Show and we do appreciate them. And as also, I also want to say I appreciate Kent Garrison for once again getting us on board. Kent, and we're doing all right today. They're start doing great. Great to be back for ever year of exciting draft. Well that's it.

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are in the end of October. By the time we get this thing really cranking here in January, this will be full on get ready for twice a week likely on. Still we're going twice a week without a first round pick, you know what. And that's and thank Derek Eagleton for that. Yeah, thank you. Okay, listen, I just wanna, Okay, I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back a little bit here

in this draft. I'm gonna go back in the last draft we had, and there were some guys that we talked about, and I want to give everybody an opportunity to maybe talk about a guy or two that they you know, that we kind of thought, hey, this guy, we really really like this guy, and either A he's playing well and you know, or B he's a guy that, you know what, we kind of need to see. Maybe

I was a little bit too high on him. Maybe I felt like that this was a guy that uh, you know, that that I saw saw opportunity to grab and that he was going to be a difference maker. And and you know, and I'm gonna run I'll just I'll run through a couple of guys and if I could. Yeah, I think that we talk about guys at the top of the board. And I know, Dane, you were really really high on se Quon Barkley. You were really high on a top five player in this draw, absolutely top

five player in the job. How about Denzel Award, another top five player in this Okay, there you go. Yeah, Now we're kind of talking about little players, nice little players. Okay, these that's the top of the draft right there. So you know, I think the Browns and John Dorsey have been vindicated a little bit. Bradley Chubb's come on, That's what I was gonna ask. I was gonna get to.

I was gonna get to Bradley Chubb and what we talked to so far fifteen solo tackle, six and a half sacks, Yeah, and I think those six of those sacks have come in the last two three weeks. Yeah. So he's the Broncos moving to sam linebacker in their scheme, and so there's a little bit of a transition there, and he's he's coming around. He's playing better the last

few weeks. But Denzel Award, and I said, I remember sitting here when the pick was made on our draft show, coverage, and there's some questions about it if they were really gonna take him. Yeah, well many because everybody was thinking he was gonna take Chup at the moment they drafted him. He was the best corner on the Browns roster. Yeah, and he's played like it. He's had play. He is absolutely played like that. Then, is not just the three interceptions,

but just also the coverage. Uh, you know what he's doing on a snapped to snap basis. He is ready right right away, which is exactly what they needed. And to me, I think he is. He's right in that conversation to be a front runner for the defensive Rookie of the Year. Yeah, and that well, that's and obviously, you know, credit to credit to the Cowboys and not

that we were I don't. I wouldn't say we were wrong about Layden vander Esh but I also think it's fair to say we questioned had some questions about Lady. I want to get to that too as well. No, and we absolutely can't. My point being, I think the three names that are going around for defensive Rookie of the Year. You hear Ward a lot, yeah, Derwin James a lot. Ye, another guy we love. That's exactly who I'm gonna get to as we go down the sport Chubb.

It's coming on. But you know, people, and Layton vander Esch has played at a level like that, but he's not getting interceptions, which is how you win awards like that, which that just shows how impressive Denzel Ward has been that he's managed to do that, you know, halfway through his rookie season. All right, let's talk a little bit about Laton vander Oh, I'll tell you what. Then let's

let's talk excuse me with Derwyn Derwin James. Now, see Derwyn James gets all the way down to seventeen with the with the Los Angeles Chargers there, and I think we were still I was, I was a I know, at least they didn't pass on him. Its true, you're right, Yeah, you're right, You're right, they didn't pass on him. Yeah no, But but it could have been a trade up situation could have been. Okay, now compare the two who's who would have? Who do you think? Who do you think

just crystal ball this thing? Well, but you get to also include, okay, would you rather have Layton Van Dress and Michael Gallop that's yeah, and that's I'm not I'm not going to even attempt to criticize our second guest speak. I love Derwin James, and he's playing like the guy that we thought he was. But the Cowboys appear to have an heir to Sean Lee. He's already playing. That's more important than anything right now. He's already playing like it.

The safeties have not been great this year for the Cowboys. They've given up two or three play touchdowns, but they have not crippled this defense. I mean, the defense is still top ten in the league. Guys got three and a half sacks, which James yeah, yeah, no, he's got two. He's a stud. Yeah, but I'm just saying it. But you've got it, Okay, you're saying they made the right choice. I really think they did. By not giving up something and going up a couple of spots, they did the

right choice. And it's fun. It's fun that we're doing this now because if we if we did this in week two, we'd be like, oh, Michael Gallup, was that a good call? But his arrow is trending upward. He played very well against the Red School. I'm gonna get to that so it's hard to sit here right now and really question it. Even if Derwin James is good. The Cowboys, I think are fine. They shouldn't have, you know,

any buyer's remorse there. But you look at a team like the Bucks who took dat and you know what, I give you full credit because you were not on the Vita Vea train. Well I'm not. You know, it's still early, but still, you know, Okay, if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna take a defensive tackle that early, he better give me some pass rush value. And I just don't see Vita Vea doing that. And he struggled to

get on the field. Ye, but yeah, I thought that was the perfect landing spot for Derwin James, and they went with the big defensive tackle, and I think the Bucks are having a little bit of buyer's remorse now. Yeah, I think you're right about that too. Guys want to talk about two we go down the board here? Okay, here's here's where's a little bit of a sticking point for us on the draft show was between DJ Moore

and then Calvin Ridley. Yeah, and I mean presidents of the DJ Moore fan club, right, yeah, Oh, I no trust me. I was. I was helping you guys get along the road of doing that. They were I think eleven and fourteen on my board, so I thought both were top fifteen picks. Yeah, I was a fan of Buck. Calvin Ridley was eleven. DJ Moore was fourteen, So I had it flipped. But how much? And it just goes to show and not criticizing players, so to speak, But

like fit is so important. Oh yeah, Calvin Ridley is stepping in as the third receiver in one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL, with twenty seven receptions for three ninety six and six touchdowns, three of which can him in one game. And then DJ Moore you got I mean, you know, Christian McCaffrey's a nice player, but you got Cam Newton and then so I think there's a little more a little more attention being paid

to DJ Moore. But yeah, I think thirteen catches for one hundred and ninety one yards I believe, Yeah, had a costly fumble in one game if I remember right too. All right, here we go, the guy's going down in the first round. Do we over evaluate Marcus Davenport with the Saints. No, I think it's just gonna take time with him. I mean, he coming from UTSA, he would like I don't think he was worth what the Saints

gave up to get him. I mean because yeah, two first round picks basically, yeah, But I still I think Davenport was a top fifteen pick in that draft. So I had no problem with where he went. But it's going to take some time because he's still figuring things out how to use his hand. If you see flashes with the Saints, it's just it's not all there yet.

But I think, you know, by year two, it will be much closer than how we see things through you know, the first half of the season, which and well, again it circumstances or everything though, because when you give up that kind of capital to get a guy, you probably expect a little bit more than that. But I don't know how really, It's just it's unfair to the player, which and we talked for four months about how raw he is. Yeah, and so he's got he got two

sacks through six games. I mean, I don't five tackles. I mean, that's not good. But yeah, they pay him to get sacks, right, I'm just what I'm saying though he has more sacks than him right now, Yeah, that ain't great. That ain't great. How about Shot Penny at Seattle at one twenty seven. That was a head scratcher when the move was made. You know, it just we I don't think anybody thought he was a first round pick in this room. No, Brian y'all had him in

the third, third round, Yeah, exactly. And I don't know, I mean, injuries have been an issue with him. Chris Carson's playing better in Seattle. I don't know. It just that was a confusing pick. Then it's a confusing pick now. I think that's another team that would like a do over there. How about how about Kevin Bryant from Jacksonville. Didn't see a lot of him when we played the Jags a couple weeks ago. Tackles, Yeah, and I think that's more of a case of that they got a

good defensive line. But he's part of the rotation. No, he's not getting enough snaps to really maximize what he's what he can do. But yeah, that's another guy that's gonna need some time. Second round. Darius Leonard, Oh, I knew you were going to bring him up. I think he's definitely one of the player fifty four tackles and four sacks, those of fifty four solo tackles. Him and Frank Ragnow are the two players that I think have far exceeded my expectations based on what they showed in

college and how we projected them forward. Credit to them because they're playing much better than I thought they could. And Darius Leonard, he's right there in the mix to be defensive Rookie of the Year with what he's been so important for that Colts defense. You know, we talk about uh Eberflus with defensive coordinator up there, former Cowboys assistant, how important the middle linebacker is to that defense. And he stepped in from day one and he's played a

huge part for Annapolis. So I think they didn't have him high enough the third round. Yeah, you loved him though, I know, and I had him in the third round, and I talked about him a lot and I had him in the third Nuns just a coward move on my part. Happy, Oh, I don't be so hard herself. How about this? How about this next guy? Then? Karen Johnson, the running back from you, talked about him as a potential first round. Guy gave him a late first early

second round grade. Here you go, he's outplayed every running back in front of him as a four sequon. Yeah, sixty nine carries for four hundred and forty four yards, one touchdown, fifteen receptions for eighty nine yards for him. Sorry, the Lions killed it, I thought him in the second and then DeShawn Hand in the fourth. Yeah, DeShawn in hand. I gave him a second round grade. I'd love DeShawn Hand and he's playing outstanding as a rookie. Just a

steal in the fourth round. DeShawn Hand almost beat the Cowboys on his own. Yeah, he was the guy that strap stripped back on that play. Yeah, and then carry on, Johnson only getting nine carries in that game. It was a miracle that they're finally smarten though. He got twenty plus touches for the first time against Miami. Yeah, so

they're doing that. They're finally smarten enough and realize, I mean, yes, you have Matt Stafford, You've got targets to throw to give you your running game a little bit of help, and they're not gonna let you down. I got some guys going down here. Ronald Jones at Tampa Bay two thirty eight, and I was way high on Ronald Joe. I liked him a lot. And how could you not be with the USC tape that he put together, you know, I just as a player, he's a fun guy to watch.

I mean, if you look at it, I had him above carry on Johnson? Am I wrong? And you know I'm so dialed in on the Cowboys? But like he's been a healthy scratch for at least a game or two, right, he hasn't been good. His numbers are seventeen carries for forty five yards. Some guys they're not ready to be professionals, and I think that's the case Jones. It's not like

he's not not talented. Of course, he's talented, but he has to adapt to a more professional demeanor and do what the coaches ask of him, and so far he just hasn't been able to do that. How about this guy, Harold Landry. I was hoping you were gonna bring him up because we're gonna get to see him when the seven tackles one sack for the you know, and here's a guy if you look at again, how my board was facing. I had hint I had Chubb, Landry and Davenport as my right end guys. And that's the order

I had, I believe. I remember saying I would take him at nineteen, which I mean he fell away further than that. Actually, yeah he did. He fell all the way down to sixteen tackles in a sack. I think he actually well, yeah, seven solos one sack is what he's got so far. I had chubbed Davenport and then Landry, but I still thought Landry was a top fifteen caliber player. Yeah, so he's gonna be. Isn't interesting to watch him and see how he develops throughout the season because curious how

he fell as far as he did. The guy the tackles here in Dallas have struggled, So yeah, something to watch A guy, A guy who I was high on was this Dante Pettis out of Washington. I know you had your concerns about him, Dane, but see, and that was a perfect example of a guy that went to

the deal situation. The ideal law offense. Uh now hasn't really played all that well well, and I'm part of that's his quarterback going down season ending injury, Garoppolo, So you know that that obviously hurts, but I thought he went to a good situation. I think he's he's set up well to have some success in San Francisco. Okay, all this now, where do you feel like with Connor Williams.

How do you feel like Connor Williams is in relation to what the what we've kind of talked about so far these guys, and I mean, people want he pretty much just been flatline right now? Or is it? Uh? I think he's been fine. I don't want you probably, I guess you're not going to rave about him. Right He's not gonna make the Pro Bowl as a rookie. But again, you know, go back and listen to what we said about the guy. I think everything that's happening

is pretty much in line with y'all's scouting report. Like he struggles with power, he's got to adapt to the strength of the NFL game. But and I'll I'll say this till I'm blue in the face. He's played well more often than he's played BADR was playing a new position too. Yeah that and yeah, I mean he's moving inside and somebody, uh it was probably I think it

was on my show. Derek was like, well, you know, he's not picking it up as quick as Zack Martin is, Like, well, let's pick six, pick sixteen, verse pick fifty, different player though too different player with as far as the power of stuff, and that the top of that twenty fourteen draft is something else. I don't know how often y'all go back and look at that, but Zack Martin would have been drafted higher in what was already a loaded draft.

Was Becke Buckham and Aaron Donald Jawn. Yeah. Yeah, that's a nice collection and talent. But I mean, am I wrong? Like I'm not disappointed in the Connor Williams pick at all. No, not at all, not at all. I'm gonna go through. I'm gonna bounce into the third round real quick. Here. The guy kind of picked out was Fred Warner, the line road from down to the linebacker from from BYU

playing like a stud. Yeah, forty two forty two solo tackles there for the forty yards, and we kind of talked about him as a hybrid type player, right, a guy that could cover it is. And I don't want a second guess, I really because I think they did a good job. But these were guys, you know, Leonard and Warner were both guys. It's like, well, if you don't get vander Esh or Rashaun Evans in the first round, yea, these are options later. And so it is interesting that,

um that both those guys are playing so well. Leonard obviously went what pick was Warner. Warner was three seventy, so he doesn't even fall far enough for the Cowboys to have taken him. But I'm just I'm thinking of like an alternate reality where like it's Calvin Ridley and Fred Warner instead of Layton Vandersh and Michael Gallup. But okavin as doesn't he out He was fifty six on my board, So I would have taken Fred Warrener in the second round, no problem. Yeah, And he's I just

seek the tape was too good on him. We'll talk about Michael Gallop for the Cowboys. Ten receptions, one hundred nine yards, one touchdown. They need to get him the ball more, don't they? David. I mean if I if like I said, if we'd had this show three weeks ago, I would have been like, does he deserve the ball more? Like he? You know, uh, miscus against Carolina, missqu against

Seattle that cost dack an interception. You know, route running problems, you know where he'd went out of bounds against the Giants on what could have been a big gain. So it was a rough start for him. But this is two or three games in a row now, especially against Washington, where he's looking like a guy who he sees the light coming on, which hopefully that continues because especially with a Marie Cooper on this lineup now, I think this

could be big for him. Yeah. Well, wide receiver is historically one of the positions it takes the longest to adapt to NFL life because you're on the outside. You're not used to facing six foot corners who run faster than you. Right, you know how many of those guys did Michael Gallant face in the Mountain West, And so developing chemistry with your quarterback facing press coverage better athlete at the cornerback position, it's a lot harder, So it

takes time. What if Marie Cooper did as a as a rookie in the NFL, that's not normal, right, I mean Odell Beckham did it his rookie It's not normal. Yeah, So I mean, look at twenty seventeen, the three wide receivers taken in the top ten that year. Corey Davis, Mike Williams, and John Ross. None of the three. Check them. Yeah, check this out, guys. I'd actually did a deep dive on this for a column I wrote about the Cooper trade. I went back and looked every receiver drafted since twenty ten.

I looked at their production. I just I just said an arbitrary baseline of like sixty catches a thousand yards, just kind of as just a baseline. Out of two hundred and fifty two receivers drafted, forty nine of them have hit that mark at some point in their career. Only thirty one did it within the first two years of their career. And then I broke it down by round. Of those thirty one, thirteen of them were first round picks. I think four of them were second round picks, and

only three of them were third round picks. Like the number it goes unless you're drafting at the top of the first round and the odds that you're getting that production quickly from a receiver are not good. Did you have the number of receivers that were actually hiking in the first round? Twenty nine? So thirteen of twenty nine thirteen of twenty, not even half, and then in the second round it's like four out of thirty. I think, so if you're the cowboy, then in the third round

it's three out of forty or something. I mean, it's so that you need the cowboys. You're looking at this, right, I mean you're looking at those You're looking at those statistics and saying which I think, Yeah, so it shouldn't be surprising that if Gallup needs time to do that. But then on top of that, we've heard Jason Garrett say at fifty times this week. Is that's why they were interested in Amari Cooper is in their mind at least. And we'll get to that too, but we gotta we

got to see him do it. But they're hopefully he doesn't need that learning curve because he's already done it, as opposed to even to Dane's point, you draft a guy in the first round, there's still only a forty percent chance that he actually does what you want him to. Yeah, we'll get to that. We're gonna get into some wide receivers here at the end. I want to talk about some guys to look at. Okay, just a real quick here too, before we get out of here for a

break for real quick. I just want to point out some guys. The Houston Texans took that key Ki Kuti fourth round, one oh three. I think I was really hard on him. I didn't, I didn't. I didn't have him right. He was a slot only guy who was playing wellness lot for Houston. I mean, yeah, they're not using him the way he would be used here. No where he was taken go into the fifth round. Maurice Hurst, has it really played very well in Oakland? You know,

we talked about him, I had anybody in. I said, it's so hard to evaluate anything going on with Oakland right now. Chaquem Griffin another one in Seattle. Only three tackles. Yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, And I talk about then I go in, maybe a guy that JENNARDA. Avery, the kid from Memphis. I kind of had him as a guy. I had him in that mix of linebackers with with with let's see Smith, Edmonds, Griffin, Jefferson Warner, and then let me look in the inside, let me look at inside backers.

I'm sorry. Vander Esh, Jewel, Avery, Leonard were the guys I kind of had there. They're all kind of everybody's kind of holding up in that spot right there right Avery can discussion is fascinating to me because I gave him a fifth round grade. I was law on him, and I went back, and he's playing well for the Browns. I went back and read my report and I was, Okay, wrote better than you talk about him. Well, I thought

I nailed him. My report, I thought was exactly what we're seeing with Cleveland the So I thought the evaluation was right. My valuation on him in terms of, uh, you know, because I mean I was groomed all along that you know, top one hundred, pick those me to be your starters first three rounds. Sure, but Avery, because he's not a starter for the Browns. No, he's coming

off the bench as a nickel rusher. Yeah, I mean that's and that's what he's I mean, So I think that's probably what he's always going to be because he's not a very good run defender. I don't like him off the ball in space, so you're gonna just, you know, let him pin his ears back and get after the quarterback on passing downs. And so the value on something like that is worth a top three round even though

he's not a starter. Even though he's not gonna have the number of snaps that you want, his ability to impact the game makes him worthy of top one hundred consideration. So I thought I got my evaluation right on him. It's the valuation that I thought, that's where I was off. Yeah, that's that's you know, that's sometimes that happens to you though.

Oh yeah, well that's I've written. I've written players before and then and put a grade on him, and I've gone and I went back and reading them again, I go, what the hell was I think? What was I doing? I mean, this guy is not a fourth round I mean I wrote him like he's a third round guy. I mean I wrote him he's a second round round, you know. And then there's some guys you write too high. I mean, Josie Jules played well at Denver, but but I probably wrote him too high for what he was

for me putting him in the second round. If everything panned out the way I was supposed to, it wouldn't be that interesting. Now we're gonna that's all, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna make this interest all right. We're gonna take a quick break, then we come back. I want to make sure we get some of your questions answered out there. If you're listening, we've kind of David Hellman. Oh is something we've always done here. It's

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it feels good. Dan. This is what the Draft Show is about, the fans out there, and we do appreciate the fans. This is always going to be a staple of ours. I always want to be able to answer questions, whatever questions you have. I want to be able to do it, and this is our best avenue of doing it. So we appreciate you guys. Hanging in there with us, David start really broad and we can narrow it down. Sure. First question from c J. Yeah, Cowboys top three needs

going into the offseason? What do you got? I think the tight end is clearly going to be one. I think they're gonna have to look at a safety here. And if they have they done enough? Have they done enough? Are they going to have to get another wide receiver? Are they gonna have to get another? I mean, if you start moving on from guys now, what happens to Cole be easily? What you know is that gonna be? I? You know, I I but you know, I'm I'm fortunately

I'm looking at like the offensive line a little bit. Yep, But but that's you feel I feel pretty good about what's going on the defensive line. I feel like what's going going along well with the linebackers, the defensive defensive tackle. Yeah,

that might be. Is it more so than if you just re overhaul this wide receiver corps, Because if it turns in, if it turns into Gallop, if it turns into Gallop and Cooper and whoever and who else, well you got Gallop, you got Cooper for sure, right, Cole Beasley's in a contract year, right, Hard to imagine Alan Hearne for another year, Herns for another year. Hard to imagine. Terrence Williams has not no, he no, hard to imagine that. Um, who am I? Deante Thompson's a free agent? Yeah? Uh,

Lance Lenore, Cedric Wilson got hurt. Wilson got hurt in the in the preseason. That's a good catch game. So yeah, So to me, I'm just kind of looking at this some some people probably say, oh, we'll quarterback, but you know you got Mike White. We've talked about Mike White a bunch. Let's I mean, we don't have to spend a lot of time the decision to trade for Cooper. Yeah, Dak Prescott's or starter in twenty nineteen. Yeah, I mean I think so, yeah, I don't I don't disagree with

you there. I don't know what else you would do. Okay, but that's am I right? With the first two? Then where do you way receive? Like you need depth? Put three, I put it three. You put it at three. I put it three, I put I put put tight in safety and all right? And then wide receiver? Where three? Where was wide receiver before the Amari Cooper trade. One. Yeah, one, So now adding Amark Cooper is only knocked it down to three then for you. Yeah, okay, now, let me'll

tell me this again. In your top thirty two, you have one wide receiver? Am I right about that? You have two? A J. Brown's number twenty ole mis ole miss and then Hollywood Browns thirty two. Okay, which don't ask what the natural question is because we're gonna get to that and okay, but okay, defensive tackle worries me because David Irving, who knows. I think David Irman's gone. I think so too. Yeah, well, okay, that's a starter. Right. Are you gonna pay to Marcus Lawrence? I think they are.

I think that. Yeah. I give them a little bit of help with a guy in the middle who's gonna take some pressure off on him on the edge. That might be your second round. Guy. I hate to say this, and this is this is a thing the Cowboys are going to have to figure out. But like, I'm curious

about the center position. But that is not that is that is a great point and you don't even think about because Travis Frederick for so many years has just lined up and played Joe Looney's under contract for next year. That's right, but it's I mean, you got to think about that. And I hate to say it because I'm pulling for Travis Frederick and that's it's not fair what happened to him. But that's the reality. Yeah, Um, okay, well,

which okay, Dana, real quick, Davis. Everybody's a periscope right now. I really appreciate you guys. Everybody's firing questions in there on periscope and if you say any I know I will thank you though for doing this. Thank you for playing along with us. We appreciate that, Aaron says, and guests in big time here. Aaron says, you know, free

agency in the draft go hand in hand. How could you see the Cowboys spending what looks to be their biggest windfall in free agency money in a long time ahead of the draft And obvious, I mean that's gonna affect what you do obviously. Yeah, we could this be when you go out and you get you take care of my safety position with Earl Thomas sixty seven projected sixty five ish sixty seven ish million dollars, fourteen of it is now going to Amari Cooper, right, I really

I can't. I hope the Cowboys extend to Marcus Lawrence. I think they think he deserves it. I think he's he's too good playing the run and there in the past. No, he's been, he's become a leader. So no, that's absolutely half of your cap space accounted for with those two players. But you could get a safety earl Thomas. I mean that sounds expensive to me. It's gonna be interesting coming off the broken leg. I think he'll be fine. No, I I I'm saying. I know what you're saying. In

terms of paying him. You know, it's the same contract. Yeah that you were thinking, uh in a trade in terms of the extension, yeah, or you know, is it reset now? And I could see this guy coming in here for like signing a three year deal, you know, and yeah, and just yeah, I think you can get ready for that. Get ready for that. I think I think that's coming. Can't time stamp this for me? Please? Well? Hey, I go back and listen to all the shows. Yeah you do, I do. I went back and listen to

eighteen hours or driving. Brian re listens to our shows while he works out, just to give you that mental image. Well, I appreciate that. Okay, um, okay, we talked about tight end. That's let's let's bank some tight ends here. I'm glad. Okay, Well, that is obviously going to be a question question. Thank you, Chris. He says tight end candidates to get excited about. But before Dane does that, yeah, I just want to point out tight end is not a position at second round.

It doesn't translate quickly, it does it. What's Mike Giseki doing right now? Squat? I think it's like seventeen catches your seventeen? No way he did? Yeah, No, seventeen catch, absolutely, it does. I think he does. That's so that's no. No. I looked up the numbers. I looked I thought I looked up the numbers on looked up in Pro Football Reference. That's I thought it was. It's thirteen seventeen somewhere. He's

got double digit catches. He's not light in the world on unless he's rushing the ball for thirteen times or something like that. I thought for some reason I looked him up and they're probably right. I hope I am, because I don't want to embarrass myself. Twelve twelve catches for one hundred and thirty two yards. Okay, Okay, he's not light in the world on fire, which no, neither

is Dallas Garter r Hurst. Maybe, and I want to hear these names, but maybe that's a position where you could spend a little money in free agency and just get a veteran guy that knows what he's doing. Anyway, you need James Hannah, I need I don't even know. I can't even think of a name. But just bring

me a veteran guy who's capable of starting. Okay, this tight end, the senior class is very underwhelming at tight end, so you're gonna need some help from the underclassman guy Missouri, and that there's a lot of underclassmen that we're gonna be talking about. Noah Fans the top guy I mentioned him, Yeah, right right, possible first round pick. He's in that Evan ingram mold. He'll give you a little bit as a blocker, but really you want him on the outside using as

an athleticism as a receiver. That's that's where you want him. I think he's a possible top thirty two guy. Cayton Smith is the best all around blocker the Stanford tight end he can now cringing. Well, yeah, I know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and yeah, it was a guy we talked about. Don't don't write off Dalton shows. No, I'm not. I'm just not. But I just know that our fans out there are going, oh god, Stanford brought us. You know, we went down on that road. Remember zach

Ertz went to Stanford two Yeah, sure, no, that's absolutely right. Uh. He Cayton Smith is to me the best all around tight end with what he can do block end, what he can do as a receiver down the seam. Uh, he's a guy to keep an eye on. Mitchell Wilcox from South Florida who we watched really athletic tight end, strong hands, works the middle of the field. Well, uh needs some work as a blocker, but I watched him with you though. You're right about that. This guy does

work the middle of field pretty well. He does. I like he's the guy that moves the chains. He does six four two forty six is what he is. Um Irv Smith from Alabama, he is, he is. He the son of the great Irv Smith that played Yes Notre Dame. Yes he is Okay, yes, Bloodlins, that goes. I'm now real old. Yes, scouted his dad when Patrick's certain watch him playing. That makes me feel old. Patrick's his son, his son, His son's a corner Atbama. Yeah he spurns.

He spurned LSU. Yeah, oh did he? Yeah we'll find out about that. And yeah next week from Saturday. Another guy from Iowa, t J. Hawkinson, retard sophomore. He's that George kittle mold where he's gonna get after you as a blocker. But he's also a pretty capable receiver as well. So I was got two guys and they feature both prominently in that offense. So, Chuck, I think I was playing Penn State this weekend in Happy Valley. Check out

that game to see Hawkinson. Hawkinson's what thirty number eight, number thirty eight and no offense eighty seven. So check those two guys. So you say fenn is the first rounder and then the and then Hawk. Yeah, I mean he's somewhere in that second maybe probably, I mean and only rising. I mean the more I see him him, the more I'm like, Okay, this guy, like the Missouri kid I didn't have as a first or second. It's Albert and it's a crazy last name. Folks. They call

him Albert. Oh yeah, Alberto. They asked you so he could laughing. No, No, he doesn't know it either though. And if somebody out there knows how to pronounce and you know how to pronounce, take a stab at it, dan ol boom wog boom, Yeah, the boom Alberto, that's what Alberto. And then you mentioned Mitchell Wilcox is another one. Yeah, and for the for the Texas Faithful or the State of Texas faithful, Jay Sternberger. Yeah, he's he's a leaner guy,

but really good after the catch. Just that's the South Carolina safety he dragged for, you know, twenty five yards. Um. You know, he's the guy who transferred from Kansas. He's getting better and better. He's more of a rocked up receiver than a true in line tight end, but he's in that mix in terms of the underclassman that can really help this tight end class. Eighty three percent of our fans listeners on the pot on the app say that our first pick should be a tight end. Seventeen

percent say safety. There are no votes for any See this is what we what do we start the draft? Show? Last year talking about guards. Right starts about guards. What did it win? Yeah? Yeah, get ready, folks, we'll see talking about two first rounders to go get Quinton Nelson, good player. Which this goes back to another which thing? Did you have another percentage for second position? There? Safety was at seventeen? And then we got some smart folks

out there. That's what people want to hear about when okay, good job folks. Question from Ivan really get into the heart of the matter here, got to make your hay and rounds two and three. He wants to know what are the deepest positions you know at the top For that, it's hard to say right now with it is early. We don't know the underclassmen are going to come out.

That changed everything and that'll push guys. I think we just generally talk about the most the strongest position potentially with Andrew classman, defensive tackle is the first one easy my top thirty two boards. There you go. Literally had happened last year though, didn't it? Another question where we like not all these guys were chure leading. We're trying to We're trying to get what I'm saying. I'm talking these guys. Ron Payne kicked our ass like three days.

No doubt about defensive defensive line this year is gonna be stronger than we've had the last few years. Tackle defensive tackle, well, I include the pass rushers. I saw that kid from Alabama, Quinn Willims, number ninety two is Gerald McCoy. Okay, yeah, you start right there. He's not lying. Oh good, he is not lying. At Oliver is a freak. I mean you could play him that. He is not. He is not. He is not. It's unfair to compare him to Aaron Donald. He's not Aaron Donald. No, what

about what about Sue? That's the other one. I hear the two Oliver and Sue. Oh no, no, no, no, small small Yeah, what's two hundred seventy pounds there? Yeah, at Oliver he during the summer he was too se twenty six to two seventy eight. Yeah, you put him on the nose. Yeah, but by the combine he'll be up to two eighty five probably. But he's not gonna be a three hundred pound guy. That's not who do some questions about how fast he really is though? Does

he He doesn't? He plays really quick, really show like you know, At Oliver, At Oliver I come on here and it's like and so he's seeing good. By the way this SPOSA kid can play. I'm just telling you, I'm gonna go on record say kid can play. I

will say this with you're not gonna fall. So you know, the last how many years I've been doing this, it does happen from time to time where my number one player in the preseason or like you know, year before, all the way through Miles Garrett heart he was my number one player as soon as the twenty and seventeen draft ended, Miles Garrett or ten and sixteen draft. Miles Garrett is my number one player for the two and seventeen draft. This year, I think it's gonna be the

same thing with Nick Bosa. I will say that Quinnin Williams has a chance to compete for that him and Justin Herbert. If Herbert's in this draft, how about how about a defensive tackle going one overall? It's not that far fast. Okay, Okay, but since yeah wilkomes Okay, who he thinks gonna projection? Raiders or Giants? Giants? Yeah, I mean giants. Forty Niners are gonna have a strong quarterback.

Donate a quarterback. Well, okay, that's another question, because if Justin Herbert's not in this draft, good chance we don't see a quarterback top ten. There you go, and Justin Herbert's gonna look And there's a chatter lately about it. Yeah, he has no idea whether he's coming or going. At this time last year, Sam Darnold's staying him play the day he pitched pitching around pretty well, he was the top quarterback. Plus, y um, Dan's just very mad. Shut up,

shut a bull man scout. Sorry us. He's a best that's so cavalier over the years. But no, Justin Herbert, he's his situations different. You know, Darnold looked around that locker room at the end of last year and it's like, okay, why am I coming back? Yeah, the offensive line's terrible, all my weapons are moving on. It's a young team, and he made the right choice for him with Herbert. It's not that way. He's got a lot of guys coming back at Oregon. Plus, his little brother is gonna

be a true freshman. He's a Eugene kid. I think he's a big part of him wants to see Oregon be a very productive team. A very successful team in the Pack twelve. There's a good chance that Justin Herbert goes back. And if that happens, then again, we're talking about a quarterback class where your top quarterback is going to be maybe walk from Missouri. So he wants nothing to do with the Giants. You would start that, wouldn't you.

He's like, uh, why, Okay, that's dumb though, like that, Oh, I'm just saying if he goes back, if he goes back to school, it's not because he doesn't want to thin Matt Matt Leiner had been the first overall pick in the draft of his class probably and he went back senior year, right, and he got picked tenth. You can't say that first. I'm just throwing it out there. I'll tell you right now. I don't think Justin Herbert cares at all whether he's a first pick or he's

going high. He knows that. I don't think he cares. Take out a big insurance policy and he'll be just fine for a senior year. Right. But the twenty twenty draft clas class, which if things don't work out here, Cowboys could be interested there. You go to it from Alabama, you're talking about Justin Herbert, that twenty twenty draft class is going to be loaded with quarterbacks, not this draft class, depending on what Justin Herbert does. All right, and that's

I'm derailing it. But that right, there's why Dak Dak Prescott will be your quarterback. Not that one of the reasons. Absolutely, Not that the Cowboys are pulling the plug on that in or do I think they should. But he's under contract. You can ride that thing out. And if you are convinced you need a quarterback in twenty twenty, I like your odds a lot better based just based on the way it's stacked. And if it didn't work out, good chance you were in a draft position to go get one.

Yeah for sure. One more question, Yeah, yeah, I do from Adam. Thank you, Adam, appreciate you. Does the level of play of the offensive tackles on this team concern you to the point that you we didn't talk about that as a need? Well, I don't. What are you raising your eyes for. I'm interested to hear your answer to that. That's say what they've struggled, and I think a lot of it has to do technique, but I think the I think the right tackle has struggled the

most because of because of a technique switch. I think that's I think that's No, I think that's been a big problem. So he was playing at a very high level at the end of the year, and you don't worry. You don't worry about him as a talent. No, I don't. I don't. You don't envision a scenario where tackle will be a top five need for this team in the next year's draft. I don't think so. The thing with Tyren Smith, I don't think he has a back problem,

but I think he's got stiffness because of his back problem. Yeah, I think that. I think that's robbed him of some of his flexibility, some of his core strength and power that he used to have. But no, I'm you know what, trusts me. The New York Giants would love to have either one of these offensive tackles right now. That's and a lot of teams would. But by the day, I think they're better than Yeah, I think you need to figure out there could very well be a change at

the end of the year. Here with that, I think that I would, I would go with that. So, Okay, we're gonna go We're gonna go a little longer today. We're gonna take a break right now. When we come back, I want to get in some names with Dane Burglar that some guys that we need to look. I know, we did a little bit on the Twitter of the twenty and we appreciate that. So we come back. Dave Burger's gonna fire some names as to keep an eye on.

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and details by visiting SLOR USA dot com. That's USA dot Com terms and conditions applying. This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys back here in the SWBC Morgange Studios. You do have the draft show for a few more minutes here, Uh, Dame Brugler, David Hellman, K Garrison, Executive producing, Brian Bruss Again, appreciate everybody out there a periscope. Appreciate everybody out that's going to listen

to this a little bit later on. I know a lot of people don't have the opportunity to catch us live as going, but we look forward to the game playing guys. Is really we've come back usually the week before the Senior Bowl, so right around a playoff time in the NFL season. You'll see Dame Brooker's so glad to have him back, and then David Hellman of course, and we'll have guys you know, Jeff Kavanaugh and Kevin

Turner joined us along the way as well. But we're gonna do everything we can to get you caught up on everything doing at the draft. So I wanted also now to look and again thank you for folks at Miller Lite too, for being along with us, and Ess Lore and all those people that do stuff for us. Dan, I want you to we asked the question about defensive tackles as potentially as part of a need. You said it is one of the deepest positions. Let's kind of

start there. It kind of kind of walk us through some names, and I know we again we're not talking about you want to mention the first round names, but kind of go through a list of guys that we kind of need to keep an eye on. Well, we talked about Quinn and Williams and Oliver already. Yeah, those two men are bad. They're gonna be off off the board in top five. And then you've got Jeffrey Simmons from Mississippi State, who is just couldn't block him the

other day against He's a grown man. Yeah, but off the field stuff, maybe something there, some off the field stuff that could be an issue. Maybe get him the second round. I love how you thought. I how can I get into the Cowboys? Yeah, exactly, go ahead. Clemson's got a pair of guys Dexter Lawrence and um, who's the other guy one forgetting Wilkins Christian Wilkins. Thank you. Christian Wilkins is more of the undersized, penetrating, get up field.

He's got that flexibility, he's got the voter plays well versus run because of those chase skills. Dexter Lawrence is more of the big body, you know, plug the gaps, gonna hold up double teams, that kind of thing. And that's that's for me. Dexter Lawrence. I understand why some people think he's a top ten pick, but again for me, if you don't have past rush value and Dexter Lawrence doesn't, that's why I don't want you in a top twenty. But that will be an interesting one. Uh. Other defensive

tackles talked about rake Uan Davis from Alabama, Derek Brown Auburn. Uh, SEC's a loaded Yeah, that's what I thought the SEC traditionally, Jean kin Law from South Carolina. There we go. Draymond Jones from Ohio State's uh. He's kind of the at Oliver Light, you know, not not quite on Oliver's level, but he's the guy in the middle of late first round. You can probably get uh in that type of players. So defensive tackle, if the juniors come out like we

expect them too, it's gonna be a loaded position. It's gonna be loaded, so it'd be pretty deep there. Yeah, and well, and that's the thing. If you're the Cowboys, You're okay, defensive tackle one's gonna get pushed down the board. No, absolutely, do you monitor that and see, Okay, is it time to pounce? Yeah, get a guy you really like it? How can I Yeah, let's we're gonna talk a lot about trying to get back into the first right. Oh no,

we're absolutely. I mean when we get the strategy time, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna figure out a way to get up in there. We didn't call me a coward for not one. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't like I don't have as many assets, so I'm willing to get crazy this year. Yeah, go all in to help help out. Yeah, I mean if we signed Earl Thomas, yeah, then yeah,

it takes care of one of your needs. Right, Maybe we get a tight end too, and then I'm like, yeah, let's trade up and get this pass rusher with on that um the position we kind of we hinted on a little bit about wide receiver. We didn't feel like that there was there was most most of those guys are bottom of the well, not most of but a couple in the bottom of the first round. Well, and you and I watched him, Yeah, a lot of people really like uh Nikkil Harry from Arizona State. Well, I

think he's a huge, but he's slow. That's it. He struggles so slow to uncover. Yeah. I got to see him in person this year Washington they played They played Washington while it was a great experience, but Washington Secondary absolutely blanketed him like he couldn't do anything. And that's the thing is he's he's a big guy. He's really good in contested situations. He's got strong hands, physical, he'll do some things after the catch just because he's so

big and physical. But he's not going to create space. No, he's not. That's a big red flag. Yeah, I didn't, you know, I was watching him. I didn't see some They tried him with some double move stuff and he didn't even have the quickness to kind of you know where they were like the corner was like, okay, keep moving, keep trying. You know. It didn't It didn't affect him at all. He's also he was also facing one of the best corners in the nation, Byron Murphrey, who yeah

tought fifteen pick. Yeah. But Riley Ridley Calvin's little brother, the junior at Georgia, who another they're talking about double moves that he's a really clean route runner. Yeah, he's not a burst player. You know, his speed. He doesn't have the burst that Calvin does, but he's a little bigger, a little more physical, and so there's a trade off. There's not a he's not as smooth as Calvin is running routes. I mean he's a you know, he's a detailed route runner. Yeah, you know, he's one of the

better route runners I think for a college player. Calvin was just on a different level, there's no question. Yeah the missisissip Mississippi kids. Uh with a J. Brown? And then yeah, you like Brown better than Medcalf, don't you? I do? I mean Metcalf. I get why people like him. He's he's a physical freak. He's huge and he can run, but he's not very technically sound with his routes. He had some drops and yeah you watched him. Yeah, would

you think put my Brown right? ORDN Like, I like Brown better than Madcalf because because I thought Brown could come out of the slot and play better. You know, but that's a big question with Brown is he's only in the slot. This guy, well, yeah, Medcalf's like six four, two thirty. He's huge, And it's I'm saying and you're and you're saying it really you know, you talk about these the Arizona say it takes these guys time to

get going. Yeah, you know, and you wonder why the cowboy dak is holding on the body is because you got guys that can't get down the field right now, that's that's a problem. I know we don't love these rankings, but I see a lot of football factories and then I see Buffalo. Yeah, Anthony Johns, Anthony, Yeah, talk about him a little bit. That was might be a tell me more guy, maybe well maybe not if maybe not can sell more now. Jadeveon Clowney's cousin, guy came a

big basketball player in high school. Um, you know, I had some academic issues with the two different jucos and then, uh, he thought he was going to Oklahoma State that fell through Buffalo. And why does this sound like a problem. Well, it's academics, that's okay. Like he thought he was going to Oklahoma State and then like his one final credit

would it transfer something like that? Um, And so I did a big story on him on the athletic you can check it out, and he wound up at Buffalo is the only school that kind of had a scholarship left for him yea. And so he ends up at Buffalo and he kind of blew up with Tyree Jackson the quarterback there. Uh not the fact I worry about

the speed. He's not the fastest guy. I get. It seems to be a theme with the guys we're talking Oklhoma State tends to have those guys right in that Oklahoma State's kind of emo that we've known the last didn't didn't mention James Washington at the top of the show. Yeah, he's off to a pretty nice start for Pittsburgh. He went to a pretty good situation where he's not he's not expected to be the guy, right, so he can

even the number two guys three. Yeah, but some of these other receivers JJ are saying, a white side from Stanford like him a lot. He's kind of like a Mike Evans light. You know, he's not quite the athlete that Mike Evans is, but when you're that size, you have the basketball background, and he plays like a basketball power forward with the way can box out, high point come down with the football. Like the South Carolina receivers with Brian Edwards and Deebo Samuel, both those guys were

future NFL players. And then Texas they've got two guys with little Jordan Humphrey and Colin Johnson. Yes, two tall trees that in high school I played at. He played at a south Lake Carol. He is fun to watch. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, this games on radio. All right. Let's but the all these wide receivers, I don't think any of them are top twenty guys, you know. I think they're between twenty and sixty. Yeah, you know, so I think there's good value. That's great. It's a bad thing

we all know. But okay, trying to would you've been reaching? Would you maybe been reaching for a guy if you took one at fourteen? He took one, absolutely took one of my opinion, yes, yeah, no question from what we've seen right now, Like I love Hollywood Brown. Yeah, he is electric. Watched absolutely. Yeah. But he's one hundred and seventy pounds. Yeah, I mean you worry about durability. Can he hold up? I mean, okay, maybe he gets like

that guy in Jacksonville. Maybe he gets to one eighty. Yeah, okay, great, But how many one hundred and eighty pound receivers are there in the NFL? Who are playing at a high level consistently. It's just it's hard to do that guy at Pittsburgh. Maybe how how big you see Brown? Yeah, he's bigger than that. I'd say's closer one ninety. Okay, I'm just I'm just asking D D. D. Westbrook's doing some things he's not. I mean, he's hit and miss. I think I think, I think I think of the

investment was about fourth round. Yeah, yeah, exactly because of the say it some off the field he does so. And I included Hollywood Brown at number thirty two on my board, so I think he is in the you know, he's in that first round conversation, but not a guy that I'm taking top twenty. None of these wide receivers are at this point basically what the Cowboys fans feel a lot better about this past week. Well, and this

is not sugarcoat. I mean, this guy's looked at this stuff, right, And I've looked at these receivers supposed to the top ones you've seen, and I and I and I and trust me, I'm not He's right. I know I've seen some of the top I mean the kid I liked the best, honestly, was the guy that I watched today was the kids g from Ridley. Yeah, I wouldn't not be surprised if you know April comes around Riley, Ridley's wide receiver one for me. Yeah, but again, not a

guy that you're talking top twenty now. Yeah, I'm certain I'm not trying to tow the company line and I'm bumblings. Don't do that. I'm bum though. We don't have a first round pick, but like I feel good and what will McClay is pretty good at this, we would say, right. Yeah, the scouts have been in town recently to have their you know, their first meetings since they started going out on the road. I don't think that's a coincidence that

they did this deal. After that they sat down and said, we're really going to find a guy that's better than this in the first round of the draft. Yeah. Not, Okay, can take a couple of minutes, stay and give me some safeties. If we looked at some safeties, the top one's easy, that's deontape. Okay. This is again if you don't say a lot of Alabama names today, Yeah, I know, I know Thompson. Thompson is a good player. The number fourteen six two one. This guy's a good he's probably

the best ball hawk Nick sabans had an Alabama. Yeah, this is legitimate. This guy will hit you now too. He will. He's not afraid to do that. No, and he's he's got the range, he's got the instincts. He's a first year starter kind of like Quinnon Williams coming you know, he show he saw flashes last year, but really coming into his own as a as a starter this year. Um, I've heard really good things about who

he is. He's already graduated. Um So Deonday Thompson's easily number one for me at least, and then after that. I don't know if there's another first round safety in this mix. Taylor Rat from Washington's interesting. Um, I think he might be in that first round discussion. Brandon Jones from Texas as a guy like a lot. Yeah, I don't think he's a first rounder, but maybe that's someone the Cowboys will be looking at second third round Day two.

Uh Hudson from Michigan's another one. Abraham from Misissippi State. So there are some names, but in my mind there is only one. Uh, you know, true clear cut he's a first round player and that's that's Thompson from Alabama. Yeah. Absolutely, It's funny because I like to hear that. I'm like, good, we don't. I don't care about first round playing here. I wouldn't be surprised they don't go after Rule Thomas. I wouldn't be. At the very least, I wouldn't be.

I wouldn't be surprised. Is there anybody else coming up on the market? I mean, we're so far out of Yeah, I know I need to I need to look at that. But now I'm trying to look at college players here. But yeah, I need I wonder. Yeah, I really I don't. You're not going to see like a Brandon car type of signing, like fifty million dollars, unless it's de Marcus Lawrence, which he's there guy. But I think I think this team is not going to have a choice but to

add some free agent help. Sure they are sure that, but they'll they'll I think they'll figure this out. Yeah, I really really do. All Right, that's it. That's all. That's a fast hour. That is a real fast hour, you know, jeez. I we were doing the draft day coverage where we do like twelve hours of this stuff. But I want to thank everybody out there. I especially want to thank our guys here, my Scouts, Dame Burglar, David Hellman. I want to thank Kent Garrison for executive producing.

Also just wanting to thank I also want to thank Ed K. Hill for coming up with this idea long time ago. We appreciate Ed. We love you, we miss you. Derek Eagleton for letting us go twice a week when we get down to the drafting part of it. We appreciate you that. We'll see you guys in January. In January, a week before Senior Bowl, we'll be in Moobile, We'll be at the Combine, we'll be at the Draft, we'll be everywhere. So thanks for joining us, and we'll see

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