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on the Draft Show. Excited about it. Brian brought us here along with my scouting buddies Dane Brugler from NFLS NFL Draft scout dot Com and also doing some work at the Dallas Morning News as well, because some words going on there and hear my voice and one five three and then one O five three the fan Yallas Cowboys dot Com. You've got a lot of things going on, young man. Appreciate you coming back for another campig Is

It's an honor that I'm welcome back. Yeah. Hey, we got the draft here this year, so even more fun, even more important. It's in our backyard all David Hellman always back with us. Hey, Brian, Honey, Jim, thanks for sitting down with this other night and watching some tape. Yeah, back into that got to its Draft season as draft season, one hundred and twelve days until the NFL Draft, and we're gonna be with you every step of the way,

So we appreciate that. KNT Garrison, Executive producer, can't thank you once again for being as great as you are. A fella is good to be back. Yeah, always excited about that. Got a lot of things planned for the Draft show this year. Is always you know you're gonna find ways here with us too. We always talk about this, you know, investigate, educate, That's that's our words. We we like the interaction with the fans. We like the back

and forth. We like to answer questions. Dane's great on Twitter, DP Brugler, He'll answer questions for you all day about the draft. Just be polite to him. You know you're getting a fight with him. Be polite in the fat in the fight. You know, that's what we do here. There's an argument, there's discussion, but be polite about it. David Hellman will answer questions too, absolutely, But yeah, I want to get into though this, like a say, a couple of different ways you can get a hold of

us here at the Draft Show. Is a way that we want because we do something here. It was started many years ago with Twitter on the twenty. I want to maintain that. I want to keep that going. I want to be able to have that interaction. I wanted times, various times to be able to answer questions during the show. You know, if Dave sees one that pops up at his account or at the at the draft show. We want to get to those questions. We want to answer questions.

We want to make sure you guys understand, you know what's going on here. You know, you guys have a lot of great opinions out there as well, and we appreciate those opinions. Again, well, we'll take all those questions. Another way too, is through the phone lines. I'll call for some you know, I'll call for some calls. Maybe at the end of the show. We'll get that done. Two one four eight seven two twenty one h two. You'll see that on your screen. Feel free to be

a part of that again. Kent Garrison will be answering the phones and he will get you on the air. Make sure again you have your radio down on all those things so we can get to your question. As always, we're always doing well. Everybody's here, you know, and that's kind of a staple here at the Draft Show. If you get on the air, get your question. Appreciate everybody asking how we're doing, but we are fine, So we'll keep that. That's one of the simple little ground rules

I have on this show. And as long as we maintain that, we'll get through a lot of calls and questions and things like that the Draft Show. Just to let you give an idea, we're a week earlier last year we were in the playoffs. I think we're two or three year wait, we're real early here, and so Dane's done a lot of this work here. Dave and I are trying to catch up, but we'll get there. We'll eventually, you know, be up to speed on a lot of these guys. So kind of keep that in

mind if you have a question. Dane, We'll probably be able to handle stuff early here as we get into some of these draft shows, and we will also have the opportunity this will be our normal time. Eleven am on Thursdays will be our normal time. We're gonna do some stuff like we always do at a at the Combine, and we're also going to have at the Senior Bowl.

We've got the Senior Bowl coming up here at the end of the month a couple of weeks, a couple of weeks, so like the twenty third of January, plan on once again, whole crew being there. We're gonna, you know, do shows from the from the Senior Bowl every day. Then we'll do shows from the Combine. But again, this is very important to us, and we take a lot of pride in our show here and we want to make sure it is for you the fan out there. That's important to us. So again, a couple of different

ways that we can do that. Okay. Big news of the day from last night had a couple of quarterbacks that declared for the NFL Draft, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold, both UCLA and USC. Rosen uh did not play in the Bowl game. He was waiting for the concussions he had. Concussion he suffered against Utah, I believe on November third was something that he was having to deal with. So, you know, we look at now, guys, the quarterbacks, and here we are, we're looking at a team here, the Cowboys.

You know, some people say, hey, go get a quarterback, don't get a quarterback. I'm not saying they're gonna go get one of these guys. But you know, as we get to this, when we get to all these quarterbacks, now with with that, you know, with Darnell and then again with with Rose and both. Then you add in Josh Allen for Josh Allen from Wyoming, Baker Mayfield as well, and we're waiting on Lamar's decision. Yeah, right on him

initially declared. Yet there's always a chance he'd go back, but he hasn't told January fifteenth to make that decision. Early thoughts though on this is and I want to ask you guys, are the five quarterbacks gonna dominate this draft and this draft discussion? Oh? Yeah, always, quarterbacks always do. If there's a good quarterback, I mean think back to twenty fifteen. Yeah, Wins and Goff and Paxton Lynch can't

forget about him. Yeah, if there's several and especially there's a few quarterback and eighty teams at the top of the draft and these you know I feel, I mean, all right, you can have your opinion on him, and you can tell each y yeah we need to figure that out. And that's fine. But they're prototypicals, you know, big arm tall quarterbacks like They're gonna dominate the conversation. And I would imagine one or both of them are gonna be top five picks, right. Like, I know it's early,

but I think good chance. We're looking at quarterbacks going one two. Yeah, with the Browns, the Browns are fascinating because they have the first pick in the fourth pick. Yeah, they also have two picks. It's all gonna be. The Browns are gonna be a lot of fun to watch, especially with John Dorsey a scouting part. He's gonna eager to see what he does in Cleveland. Um, but you also the Giants at two, you have the Broncos at five, you have the Jets sitting there in the top ten.

All these teams could use quarterbacks quarterbacks and so yeah, with darn Old and Rosen Listen, there's no consensus quarterback top quarterback this year. You can poke holes on all of them, pros and cons with each one of them. It's going to be interesting the quarterback debate, which like every year, we're gonna tear them down, you know, throw them up, build them back up. Yeah, it's it's just gonna be. That's just part of the process us and so with and it won't be hard with either of

these guys. There's plenty of negatives that you can look to, but there's plenty of positives as well, And so I think we remember these are you know, Sam Donald's twenty years old, right, It doesn't throw a lot of make a lot of turnovers. Yeah he does, but you know he's a red shirt sophomore. I can count on one hand the number of red shirt sophomore quarterbacks who had declared earlier and gone in the first round. It doesn't happen very often. Yeah, So you know, Johnny Manzil is

one example on one end of the spectrum. Jamis Winston the other end of the spectrum. So where will Sam Donald land? It'll be interesting to see. But yeah, I think the quarterbacks, no doubt, will command much of the discussion this year. Is there a guy like I mean, I'm gonna ask you something though you mentioned Jackson? How does he fit in the NFL? Dave? I granted I haven't sat down and really dissected the tape, but I've

watched enough of him out. Oh, I know, you know the player he's I mean, I'm giving him every opportunity to be a quarterback. He's a quarterback. I mean personally, I don't like, I don't buy this crap that he's a you know, wide receiver or whatever. I'm not saying he's gonna be a great pro quarterback, but he's a quarterback. Could he be the wild card in this whole thing? Or will it be Baker Mayfield? Um? I think they both are. I mean, I think there are multiple wild

cards at quarterback. With Baker, you know, he's taught out the kid at Wyoming. He seems like the one guy that everybody's kind of bashing on right now because I think everybody's wants to find the next Carson Wentz so bad. It's just too it's too obvious that that's what they want him to be. And maybe he is, but he certainly doesn't have the resume to back it up. No, and well, and Carson Wentz really didn't have the resume either as a one and a half year starter at

FCS school. And so, you know, it's a lot of people make a lot of a lot of excuses for Josh Allen. To me, the way I describe it is,

he's scouting katnip Okay. He's got the elite arm, he's got the elite size, and he's an elite athlete, high character guy, you know what you're getting all in all those areas, but he's undeveloped in several critical areas that it takes to play the quarterback position in the NFL, from a decision making perspective, accuracy, touch, tempo on us throws, just the way he can manage the pocket, his pocket presence. So there's just a lot of areas where he's just

not ready. He's undeveloped, and it's a fascinating journey that he's taken, you know, from going unrecruited to be the JUCO level to Wyoming giving him a shot and then just kind of blowing up. And then with Baker Mayfield, you have a guy who, if he was two inches taller, I think we'd be talking about him as a top ten pick. But because he's gonna be six foot maybe six foot and a half, that's a that's a big

part of the discussion with NFL teams. And then back to the original guy we talked about with Lamar Jackson, I haven't talked to one person in the NFL who says he's a wide receiver all Ryeah. I think God, I think that just one person, a couple of people said that, and all of a sudden, the outrage against it kind of fueled the discussion. But to me, Lamar Jackson, he's a quarterback. The bigger question will be does he does he come out or not? Because he's never in

a season thrown for over sixty percent completions. The last three years he's combined for six hundred and fifty carries. Can you really Michael Vick? He's a right handed version of Michael Vick. But again, that's some lofty praise considering Michaels he had. But just talking to old ball scout here, I mean, that's gonna be the easy comparisons. Okay, but that's what I'm saying. Though, Michael Vick, when you watched him play at Virginia Tech, was not an accurate quarterback,

right you know? Yeah? I saw him plays with his feed. You can get around that. If you're a threat to run for a thousand yards in the season, like you can make up for Well, I'm for the kid. I really am for the kid. I hope that sounds I hope he declares. I mean, I'm sure there's like Louisville fans listening to this who disagree, But that just makes this whole draft process that much more fascinating because he'll be one of the two or three most polarizing prospects

in this draft if he does come out. And is he going to be the one though that when you watch his tape, you're gonna fall in love with him the most of all these quarterbacks. I don't think so, because this is the big playability. But every time, okay, like I see this on Twitter a lot where people post videos and say look at Lamar Jackson. Here, look at and almost every time it's him running the ball.

And that's great. I mean, I'm not discounting what he can do as an athlete and with his legs, but it's still the quarterback positions about putting the ball in the air, and Lamar Jackson can do that. He has a big time arm, he can make some downfield throws, but he's still not the most accurate quarterback with his feel, with his placement. So there are question marks to me. I think when you look at you know, this is the time of year where the underclassman again, they have

until January fifteenth to make a decision. This is the time of the year, of the calendar where we're hearing all these decisions. We also recently found out the draft order. Yeah, and when you look at it, you look ahead and run through that, run through the top five, the drip. Oh, you can run through. Well, excuse an idea. Cowboys are picking nineteenth, okay, and I always looking see, okay, who's ahead of him and who's behind him? Seattle is ahead

of you in this drafting word. I got this question a lot. Yeah. And the people that want to who have been talking about the draft order, strength of schedule? Schedule, what is the tiebreaker for teams with the same record head to head has nothing to do with it, right, headhead has nothing to You're absolutely right about this, and you've got some teams that are gonna have to flip. I mean gonna have to flip from So I believe the Oakland pick at nine in the forty nine ers

and the Packers and Redskins thirteen and fourteen. Because the first time breaker strength of schedule. Then it goes to conference record if they're in the same or division record if the in the same division, and then conference record if in the same conference. If they're still tied. After that, then it goes to a coin flip. So we have we've got, yeah, we've got two teams. We have four

teams that are gonna have to flip for spots. Right, but in just looking at the top twenty order of the non playoff teams, we keep them with the quarterback discussion, you look at the Cardinals sitting there at fifteene. Yes, you know that's mid of mid first round. Okay, let's say, just for argument sakes, that quarterbacks go one, two, Arnold

Rosen whatever order. And then you have some interesting, you know teams with the Broncos, with the Jets, you know, could the Dolphins, you don't know what's going on, Ryan Tannehill. And then the Cardinals sitting there at fifteen. How these quarterbacks the order they go in, I don't think. I don't think as much as we talked about Pat Malomes last year, how many times do we talk about him going top ten? Not until much later in the process

at the very least. Right, So, you know, it's going to be interesting to see how these the quarterback dominoes fall in the top half a round one. And that's well, I think it's fascinating because I see I you know, Darnold and Rosen I think could create a free for all in the top ten among the teams up there

that need quarterbacks, because there's at least like four. But then the Cowboys are really interesting lead positioned in my opinion, because now you're talking about Mayfield and maybe Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Obviously I have no idea on January fourth how that all plays out, but those guys start to drop towards the back end of the first round. Maybe the Cowboys benefit from their position because of that.

We talked about that with the Shaun Watt last year. Right, I mean first round grade you get right now on your board? Do you know off the top of your head, No, it's right. I A rough guess would be about fifteen right now. See see that's where that's where you know

picking nineteen. Yeah, you're right on the cusp right of getting a first round player, right, talked about that before And to Dave's point about the quarterbacks, Sam Donald coming out into this draft class helps the Cowboys because it's just gonna push another, hopefully another good player to know. Sure, so you know, who knows what Lamar Jackson could if he goes somewhere in the top eighteen picks, it could

be a similar type of scenario. So the more quarterbacks the better, the more of these underclassmen they come out. Arden Key from LSU, right, you both, both of you guys know very well. Yeah, he declared he could go top fifteen player that might not be on the Cowboys radars because of you know, the Randy Gregory wounds are so fresh. Oh that's get ready for that comparison, right, yeah,

very comparison. Well, we're gonna spend more time on arden Key than you know, maybe any other player in this draft, trying to figure him out, right, both on and off the field. Yeah, but again him coming out. You know a lot of Alabama players have yet to announce whether they'll come out. So the more declarations the better for the Cowboys, more chance for a better player to be there at nineteen. Just kind of run through a couple more of those. Orlando Brown, Oklahoma, and he didn't declare it,

did he? He He did declare? Okay, Yeah, I thought that was last night recently. Carry on Johnson Auburn. I love him. Yeah, he's a top five back. Ten. See, now there is there a guy how many how many running backs? See this is where this is going to get interesting too, Yeah, because how many running backs are going to go in the top ten? I think only one? I'd be sure you think Barkley's only Barkley's the only one. I'd be surprised.

As much as I like Dice, I think he's more of a solid first rounder, a guy that you look at in the teams. He might be there in the twenties, um, and maybe that'll change. But right now where we sit early January, I think sae Quon Berkeley's the only back that'll go top ten. And you know, Jeff having On on Trust to Tape podcast, we've evaded who's the best running back prospect of the last three four years? Right?

He went with Berkeley, I went with Zeke. That's going to be a fascinating discussion we can get into at some point. Absolutely, But Kari said top five potentially running background, I think so. I think somewhere in the top fifty. Yeah. See, he's a really I love him. Christian Kirk was another one wide receiver Texas and m there's a lot of buzz among Cowboy fans. We've already we've already got ourselves a nice little short list of players that Cowboys fans

are in love with. Right. Yeah, and I'll tell you what he talked about him a little bit. The toughest thing with him is can you play on the outside in the NFL? Oh? I think he can because he at A and M he was a slot only player. Yeah and so, And I'm not saying he can't. I'm just saying we have a separation at speed well against nickel defender, sure, but when he plays press on the outside, it might be a little a little more difficult. I'm not saying he can't. I'm just saying he's untested in

that area. So that's something that will to keep it keep tabs on. But no, I love Christian Kirk. He's my number two wide receiver behind Kelvin Ridley. Uh. And I think Kirk. I think he's a top forty player. About DJ Moore than loved oh Man, Tell me about DJ Moore a bit, Dave watch him? Yeah, tell me

about DJ Moore. Uh, he's Maryland wide receiver. Sorry I need to say the school when I do this, but five zero five zero nine two like he's he's not the biggest guy, but he's tough as nails and for as I don't want to say undersize, but he's not the biggest receiver. He's got some tall stick but well, but he's he's got these fantastic hands, like, yeah, I don't know how big they are. Then, you know, we haven't gotten into that part of the draft process. But

like he's snatching everything out here out here down low. Uh, Dave is making fun of my our scout numbers five nine six five nine six to fifteen four five five gotta be running faster than that. Don't Philadelphia, Pa. He is from Philadelphia. Here you go, David. Uh. He's impressive, man, Like, he's just he's hands best trade. There's so much to like about him. His hands are really impressive, he I wrote,

I took notes, Brian. I know you don't like he glides when he runs, like he just looks so smooth. His routes look good. He bounces off tacklers like, I mean, I don't know how many times just on the We didn't even It's not like we watched all of his games. We watched a twenty minute cut up. Yeah, and I like four or five times the safety had a great angle on him and put a lick on him, and

he just kind of just kept going. If you're not a tall receiver, a big receiver, you better have really good hands or be a really good after the catch target, and I think he's both. I mean, I think as bad as Maryland was on offense this year, or a streaky and inconsistent play. He said, a Maryland record for catches in a season, and he's only the third Maryland receiver to ever go over a thousand yards. So this is a player I've been talking up all fall, and

finally I'm glad he's getting more glad. I brought him up on the first day of the draft show. He's a date two player I was gonna so I was, I'm not good at that. Like what you're giving him a round two grade? Round three grade? Probably? Right? Yeah, I mean we got a these. I think we're gonna have a log gym of receivers in the second round. And so that's that's music to my ears, Dane. Because I'm stuck him in the first that's fine, but great, and we'll get more into it. Obviously, we'll have a

two dozen guys to talk about. But the more I just think rounds two and three is such a sweet spot for wide receivers, Like I think about Yeah, I think about Jarvis Landry, I think about Juju Smith Schuster, Like, yeah, the Cowboys don't need to spend a nineteenth overall pick to get a really badass receiver, which so I like to hear. Really, it's nice though if you get he's

there at nineteen. I'm not, and that's fine. I'm not saying they absolutely shouldn't do it, but I just like knowing that there's talent in that sweet Okay, real quick, before we go to break, take our first break. I've changed my approach on the really tall receiver. Yeah, I've I've I've I've walked that, I've walked that plank, and I've fallen into the ocean media day. But you know what, and I keep falling into the ocean and I keep

getting eaten by the sharks. I'm just telling you, though, Newman, new Year, I'm looking at these shorter receivers that are outstanding route runners. I agree with it. Have the separation. I'm not just talking out for the Dallas Cowboys. I'm just talking about in life in general. I agree with you.

I sincerely do, and I'm still hurting from Lakwan Treadwell two years later, like it hasn't it hasn't been greats this year, it hasn't been great And a big part of that's mental and you know a lot goes into it. But no, I agree. I mean, I think a big an example of that this year is going to be Courtland Sutton and that, well, that's where I want to see that. That's where I'm not walking down. That's like, let's see if the show's motto is to investigate, and

I'm sure it is, you can't and I worry. I'm already worried. We just set his name for the first time. But like you're gonna Joey Bosa this poor guy. I'm not Joey Boson anybody where You're just like everybody's gonna be like Courtland Sutton is trash. Like hey, let me tell you what the Draft show fandom. I feel you guys, I feel his kids, not trash. I'm just saying, though, as I'm looking at receivers, give me the guy that's the route runner right and can separate and could catch

the football. The last thing I'll say about this is the biggest Yeah, well just kind of a just a period on the sentence. When you go to the NFL, they're all great athletes, Okay. The thing that separates, and this is true for almost every position, which separates the good from the great and the great from the superior, is the technical skill. And that's exactly what you're talking about with guys that create their own separation, the route runners.

It's true with offensive lineman, defensive lineman, every position, wide receivers included. The guys that have that technical skill, which Calvin Ridley absolutely has no doubt, that's what separates him. And that's what Courtland Sutton doesn't have right now. And that doesn't mean that he won't a lot of that screen. And that's that's the thing is he's the offense at SMU, and the offense he goes to in the NFL, you might as well ask him to, you know, learn Chinese.

It's a huge gap there and so maybe he'll learn it as a rookie. Maybe in year two he'll blow up. But it's just there's there's a big if there because of the development that's required, and that's what makes Courtland Sutton such a tough player to evalue. Because again the skill set, he's like a power forward out there. Yeah, there's a lot to like about him, but the technical skill just not there yet. Yeah, I tell you, I'm glad to hear you say all that. Okay, boy, that

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Whether you get Dane Brugler hooked up with some town John God call. Okay, this is one of my favorite parts of the show. It is Twitter on the Twitter. Thank you ed Ka Hill for creating a show so many years ago. David Hellman, what do you got? I'm gonna try to start this off as broadly as possible. I feel like that's I feel like that's the best way to do this. You know, and got so and I figured we can kind of go around. It doesn't

have to be a uniform answer. Playmaker wants to know what are the top three needs for the Cowboys in this draft going in to twenty eighteen? Can I throw something out Dane Burgership did something for Dallas Morning News where he had a he had a linebacker, a receiver, a safety, a nose tackle, and another linebacker. Those names would be Roquan Smith, Calvin Ridley, Rodney Harrison, Ronnie give me Ronnie Harrison. I can't remember ronning Ronnie Harrison for

safety from Alabama. The Ron Payne nose tackle Alabama, and then Rashaun Evans linebacker Alabama. So you're kind of thinking down the lines of they need a linebacker at this place. Well, and the focus of that piece was prospects to look for in the National title game Alabama and Georgia. UM, plenty of first rounders, plenty of future pros to watch

for in that game. It's hard to say because we you know, there's several steps need to be taken before we get to the draft, and right, we got a long way, Yeah we got yeah, So a lot could change, but initially, initially I really want them to see this

team upgrade the wide receiver corps. That's me UM. I think with Anthony Hitchens likely moving on in free agency, linebacker and then you know, a safety, something to shower up that secondary to really I feel you have a lot of pieces, but I don't know, I just too many moving parts in that secondary. Maybe adding an impact safety could help stabilize the defensive backfield. Yeah, and that would be a Harrison would be that guy, where do

you fall on on d tackle? That's and I'll package this in with another question from a guy Showtime says, you know, why why don't the Cowboys try harder to address needs in the middle of the defensive line? And it makes me think back to twenty thirteen, the famous Sharif Floyd. Yeah then yeah, um, just well they tried to help you here with the name with the Ron Payne. Yeah, I think, And and the way I'm looking you know

ya from Washington. Oh my gosh, he's tough to figure out because this is he gonna get the Danny Shelton comparison. The thing is, he's so much more talented than Danny. He's so much better athlete. And Shelton was like the twelfth overall pick, That's what I'm saying. And so with ya. He at three hundred and forty pounds, the way he moves and the power is rare, It's it's unbelievable, and he's that rare guy that can take on double teams

and beat double teams. And what's the Stanford game right? Well, and at Stanford game, the very next play, he's chasing down a ball carrier at the sideline. Yeah, exactly has that. But the discipline, the technique, there's you know, the motor. Those are all kind of iffy areas with him for me um and again go to h You know Dave's point about the nose tackle, the one technique is that a position that this team would invest in with a

top twenty pick. It's not a sexy position, but adding an impact player, whether it's Veya from Washington on Pain from Alabama, the ripple effect that the addition of a player like that will help the defensive ends, It'll help the linebackers. You could have Malie Collins stay at the three technique, you could you could use David Irving as a mismash weapon up and down the defensive line. So having that lynchpin then anchor at nose tackle really could

make a difference. The question is would they do that in the first round? See, that's what That's what I would worry and it would be a hell of a pick. Are we are we being too dismissive to say that they definitely won't do that. That's kind of it is.

But we're just we're going on draft history. If I would, if Dane and I we were all sitting in another war room and we were talking about what the Cowboys were doing, and we would say put that Vay as a good looking player for Dallas, and somebody would chime in, like Dane would go, brought us say, have not taken a one technique? They've baba bla. I mean, that's that's history.

You're right, And I saw this counter argument on Twitter yesterday and I agree with you for the record, But just playing Devil's advocate and then spend first round picks on alignment either and no, and that's true times in five years. What does Maurice due for you. I'm a big fan. Yeah, but Michigan defensive tackle probably a three right, say he played more of the nose at Michigan, but he is a definitely three. I mean he's he's like two hundred and eighty five, two hundred ninety pounds. Uh,

he's so quick, so explosive. Ma rese Hurst to me, is a first round pick if is he in that nineteen range. Yeah, I think he's I think his size is going to push him eighty eight right, Yeah, so six oz one five I think is what he is. We'll see what he is in the combine if he need to get on board with all our numbers. By the way, we're just trying to We're just trying to become ann Arbor South down here, so that what's happened. No, I'm just saying though, this good footnoll. No, this guy's

this guy's a really good football player. Research is a good and if you were interested in keeping if you're interested in saying, oh, like MALIEK. Collins is going to play the one, Yeah, by all means, Maurice Hearst would be a good guy to have on your team. And hey, I mean, you know that's part of the fun part about starting this so early, is what I mean. We don't know what's going to happen with David Irving now, so him and Christian Wilkins the two undertackles to keep up. Yeah.

Let me tell you this though. These Clemson guys they got me nervous. Why I think they're overrated, all of them. The defensive lineman Grady Jarrett wants. I mean, everybody's talking about them, Grady, Grady Jarrett wants. But what was he picked? He was fifth round? Yeah, okay, feel like he fell a little bit though, Oh he did because he's a short daddy. He's a short daddy player. He is. He

is shorter. Yeah, yeah, well mean, But don't you feel like though that everybody's kind of got those Clemson guys way up there. I think that they like Cleveland Ferrell the defensive end. Yeah, I think he has He's only Richard sophomore. He's very young. I think the boy you're being nice. I just said he was young. No no, no, no, no, no. I'm he's his combination of power, athleticism for that size. I mean, he's still figuring things out. He's a young player.

But when you project him forward, I think the traits there, there's plenty to like there with the trades. I'm not saying he's a top ten pick, but I think somewhere in the first round he would be. He would make sense. I got I got another big picture for you, Dane. I would say, I'm putting you on the spot, but you're way too prepared for me to think that's going to happen. Justin just wants an overview of what the

strengths and the weaknesses are in this draft. I mean last year that it was a dB head about that right out of the block. Hey, that's what we need to know though, that's that's great, and we're still waiting on some under classmen to declare help. That's shape everything. But when we look at it, I think corner again is going to be a very strong route. Um debout running back, I said, yeah, running back definitely. We only we might only have one top ten pick, maybe only

you know, two first rounders. Yeah, maybe more, we'll see. But in the top fifty, top sixty, Albert Kamara is out there somewhere well, and that's that's it. This is that's why Pete get ready. This thing is going up. That's it. Teams want to find that next Albert kamaras So Barkley's gonna go top five and then okay, Darius Guice, carry on, Johnson, Nick Chubb, Damian Harris, Sony Shell Love stand,

Ronald Jones usc he's a Jamal Charles clone. So we're gonna see plenty of running backs go in the top sixty. We mentioned wide receiver there's a logjam of them in the top fifty, top sixty picks. Um good tight ends, some some good tight ends. You like Hayden Hurst a lot better than the guy. I mean, hey, my guy, go Durt Goddard got all right. I always kessed up names. I always gotta do. Yeah, y'all get so excited. Throw throw me some schools here. Let's South Dakota State. That's

Goddard got right about Hurst, South Carolina. There we go, guys. He's a former minor league baseball player. He first, Yeah, he's twenty four years old. You know what, don't ever tell me about age. After that frigging net Nan deterren S, Newman still played in Minnesota after we were told he was too old a draft. Well, and that's something that's gonna come up a lot. Ridley with Ridley, he's right about that four year old rookie. He couldn't play his

senior year in high school because he turned nineteen. Wow. Yeah, he's just an older guy and wrapped him. Bring him on. Yeah, I mean you know what, the way that the way that these players are, you get them, you use them, you move on. And that's a terrible way of saying things, but it really is. And the salary caper. I mean, I think teams now would just rather draft. It's nice to say that, you know, even though they bust them

all the time. I want a player for ten years in the you know, it's unrealistic exactly unless it's an offensive line and chances are you're not going to be the head coach for the next ten years. You're not gonna be the GM firs years. You need to win the next three or four years. Boy, you're preaching the rob anywhere where. This draft looks particularly weak again, offensive tackle just seems like it's gonna be like my guy O'Neil friend, I like them, Um, I think you have

some holes. Uh not strong. Then again, every time I always talk about that guy, I talk about that Nate Solder, you know, and I talk about Baktari every time. Oh not strong enough, not strong? They play like forever. That actually serves as a great segue, y'all know how I like those though. I mean, you think about Okay, you kind of have a good idea of these team needs wide receiver, linebacker, safety, offensive tackle, a sneaky need. I

would you hit it at nineteen well, that's what Josh wants. Yeah. God, no, I'm not doing that. No, I'm not doing that, right, I'm not no way no, I mean I don't think they would so, so tackle's not a need then, right off. I mean it had to happen on how you feel about Tyron Smith. But I know you were. I know you pay attention at at noon on Sundays to team up in Ohio. I get that because nobody. I love my timeline when when Dane's watching the game with the

brown Yeah, he's like fighting fans. He's fighting the Browns fan like Kaiser is gonna be good. Shut up. But by the way, hey, when you do, when you do as many players as we do, you know how it goes, right. But I think that I think that the left tackle spot held this team hostage this year because of the health of the and we we got into a big

debate about this on our on the Break yesterday. I do not believe that Tyron Smith's situation is so dire that this team needs to be drafting a tackle at nineteen, but I certainly think it's something that they should be looking for in free agency and the draft, a swing tackle who can adequately replace Tyrant. Let me ask you this, and maybe I'm way wrong about where he fits in

the grand scheme. Connor Williams. See, it's that nineteen scores that or is that because but send you got some teams like the Giants who were talking about all these teams that need quarterbacks. Some teams, the teams that need offensive lineman might be taken quarterbacks, right, And Connor Williams will be tough because twenty sixteen, his sophomore tape, they said that was incredible. Connor Williams from where Tech Texas. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, he looked like a

first round pick. Yeah. This year he looked terrible in the h against Maryland, bad game, and then he got hurt in the USC game. Yeah, it's supposed to sell right on that bad play. And then he returned for the final two games and he looked okay, okay. Uh So, if which Connor Williams are you're drafting the two sixteen version or the two seventeen, I don't need questions. It's about my offensive tackles well, and that's why I think Conor Williams is going to be a first round pick.

It could be somewhere top fifteen. Orlando Brown's gonna be a tough one for me. The Oklahoma left tackle slow because he blocks out the sun. Yeah huge, I know he is, but and that helps compensate for some of his lateral limitations because he is so big. He has that wide base the wingspan. But oh he's huge. Zeus's son. Yeah, former NFL pro Rip. So it's it's tough to wear to peg him in the draft because yeah, you have to.

I don't like the left tackle right tackle distinction. I think they're the same thing you need to your tackles as a good sides in this day and age. Yeah, I mean you saw that with Lyle Collins. He drew most of the tough matchup for the Cowboys this season. Did we answer that question about offensive tackle. I don't know.

It's just hard with Tyrone Smith because you just have to trust the medicals and trust your trainers, and it's it's hard for I mean unless unless you're in one of those situations where like the best tackle in the classes sitting there at nineteen. It's hard for me to justify that that Jonathan Allen, I wouldn't mind him in the safety from that Indiana. The Colts took Cook. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't mind. In the second round the Cowboys looking at a Tyrell Crossby from Oregon. I think that'd be

a He's he'd be an ideal swing tackle. Guy could play either side, um, and you're not playing paying a premium price for him, and he can start in this league. It would be it's a stretch to think of a first round tackle. It might have agree. We've managed to not really mention this guy too much, which is amazing because pup Daddy, pup Daddy, pup Daddy is his name,

pup Daddy like it. Uh, he wants to know he first, he wants a comparison of Roquan Smith and Rashaun Evans, so they're gonna be playing each other on Monday in Alabama. But also just kind of, uh, let's just sort of talk about why Cowboys Nation is just absolutely in love and with Roquan Smith and what he could do for you slash hows Evans. By the way, can he get nicked up in that game the other night? He got banged up, but he's I think he's supposed to play

and okay, okay. Big thing for Evans is he plays the sam and Nick Saban's three four is multiple scheme where he's mostly going downhill um and then he even puts his hand on the ground when they go to a four man front and off. He's an interesting is that range Rolando McClean looking type dude. He's really square. Yeah, he's not range looking, He's just he's long. He's square. Yeah,

he's really square, Dave. And I mean and when you watch him he bounces off people, he's like he bound, he hits him, he spins, he you know, but he has the speed where he can make plays at the sideline and on the perimeter. Yeah. Uh, big question for me, I think, And we won't know this, And this is why the Senior Bowl wild be so important. Is how he does in reverse? How does he do in coverage

covering backs and tight ends the drills during practice? That's going to reveal a lot that'll help me with the Evans evaluation. With Roquan Smith, the SEC Championship game might have been the best against Auburn. Georgia beat up on Auburn. That might have been the best linebacker tape I've ever watched with Roquan Smith. He was that good Uh, that is that hyperbole? Is that too going? I gave him. I gave palms up because I'm like, yeah, he's right,

he's yeah, he's good. See the problem you run in with him? He plays the will? Does he play the will? He plays the will in Kirby Smarts three four. Yes. See, that's that's what I'm saying, though that doesn't matter to me. Okay, you do have Sean Lee that plays your will. He's he's turning thirty two. Okay, I'm with you. If you're just if you're okay, next question, well, next question? Is he there at nineteen? No? See, that's that's the thing. I think you'd have to go get that guy. I

think that. And are you going to get a guy where you already have? And I and again, I love the player, folks, don't get me wrong. I love the guy. But I'm just I'm trying to think of what they would think. I think he's one of the top ten players in this draft. But I don't agree with you. How much higher did we have of Lavante David rated compared to where he was drafted or the LSU linebacker

um One Atlantis? Yeah, John, I mean I think these undersized linebackers are not undersized, but guys that don't fitfall linebackers right off, fall linebackers that don't fit the ideal size measurements that team pot four, they might fall a little bit. I'm not saying Roquat Smith's gonna be there at nineteen. I'm saying there's an outside chance, and I'm saying, if he falls to fourteen fifteen, do you go get him?

And so I don't think it's totally unrealistic to say that, you know, there's no chance that he could be well, I know, I just I just kind of look at this team and saying, well, Sean Lee, he plays, I'm I'm ready for the can. The scouts can walk and buy and grab candy out of the candy jar. Our desk can kind of give us a little whisper here and there. Maybe I I hear what you're saying. I don't think nineteen is not too steep of a price for me, considering Sean Lee's age and injury history. Oh

hey and all that. But but I mean, if you're talking about trading up to get a guy who's going to be your third linebacker preferably, I don't know, but I love him. I get Dallas is no man's land right now in this thing until until I catch up where the draft, how it's gonna fall or how it could fall. I mean, I'm thinking, I'm thinking Smith, like you said, he's top ten. So one more, well, one last one, one last one. Then we got to get to a break. Our friend of the show, Bobby Belt,

wants y'all to talk about Marcus Davenport. Oh my god, is this is this a nineteen consideration? Uh? If he's there, If he's there a guy from UTSA. If he's there, this is a guy with this guy's got it. He's a How long has u TSA been playing top tier football? Like three years? Four? That's a good question. I don't know, not man, it's maybe it might be more like six or seven. I don't know, but uh, certainly not a power program. No, it's a defensive end, right, Are you

got him? No? I think he I mean the size measurements, the athleticism. I mean, he's he's a trades player, Okay. I mean you're drafting him for the traits, and that could be a little risky at times in the first round. But he's got a hoops background. Uh you know, you you see the athleticism way he I mean Louisiana Tech game, they tried to have a running back block him. Yeah. Ok. Yeah, the funeral for that running back, yeah, it was two days later. So it's just that Marcus Davenport has There's

a lot to like about him. He's still raw in a lot of areas, sure, but I think you look at the Packers picking in the mid first round, he could be an option. We know a lot of teams need pass rush helps, so he might not even be in discussion at nineteen because he might not be there. This guy's a bully. Yeah, he's a bully. Play he plays like a bully. He will he will take guys on,

push guys around, and he's a physical player. And what's amazing, he's plays in the two point stance really the whole game. I mean you you rarely ever ever see him put his hand on the ground in rush. I think the fun thing for me about how early we're starting this is, I mean, you guys know, by the time we by the time even the combine rolls around, oh yeah, we'll have we'll have our net of like, yeah, eight guys that are realistic consideration. And I mean last year we

were pretty damn close. We were we were we talked him into drafting the safety from Louisiana and well we'll get into that. But even in the first round, I mean, Charles Harris, Jack McKinley, Taco like, we were right, you know. Yeah, I'm excited to figure out because I don't I don't know enough right now is if Marcus Davenport's realistic is Rocan Smith Smith Smith's realistic Christian Kirk Like, I'm excited to kind of firm up that idea of like what

exactly are we looking at now? This is a going back with Davenport. Just looking my notes, Scott didn't play light. He is one of those guys that when I mean he's good, he's got some pop in his hand, give me six five six two fifty two wow. And he's very balanced. Yeah, he's not a guy who's gonna be fall on the ground. I mean he not only can

he go around guys, he can go through them as well. Yeah. Okay, Ken, I'm sorry I should have owned you a break about five minutes ago, but gotten to Hey, thanks everybody for Twitter. On the twenty when we come back, light up the phone lines. We'll take some calls from you too as well. You know, we'll get into some more discussions. I've got

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the Combine we do that the Senior Bowl. I like, I know, combine beer can't chick and I'm really looking forward to that again this year. By the way Pretzel rolls it. Yeah, it's like to have the beer can't chake and I've never seen brought us that. I was so disappointed. We'll be there for you. Yeah, yeah, Derek Eagleton, I know, like, I know we love this, but I'm always I shouldn't be, but I'm I'm surprised by like the outpouring of love. Well, you guys are busy, guys.

My man here, he's got like seventeen jobs he's doing. You've got all these shows you're on, But like I don't want to make you guys have to do anything. Oh no, no, but it's no. I'm talking about the fans. Like as soon as as soon as the uh you know, as soon as they lost to the Seahawks and they were eliminated, like you just start getting yeah, tweet that. Yeah for that. Yeah, it was like, yeah, it's one thing for like a sarcastic fan to be like, well,

time to talk about the draft, Dave. But then like we announced that the show's starting today, and it's just like people are freaking the hell out. It's awesome. Well, like I said, well, well we'll carve some time. But at Derek Eagleton, if you want to see the show, just go ahead and go at him with this, can't. I asked if there were any calls? Are there any? Yeah? We got Brian and Waco, Brian and Wake You're on

the Draft show, Brian, Hey, Hey there Fellas Hey. UM. I just want to say I've been looking forward to this day for a long ever since basically November twelfth of last year when the Cowboys played Atlanta. Um and uh fell in love with the show last year and just absolutely love it. You guys are great. Quick comment. One of my biggest problems from last year is that they the Cowboys just refused to really utilize Zeke in their offense as far as route running like a wide receiver.

I know Nick Eatman talks about one a police flicker once a game. I would love that too. I love that play, but I think maybe you know, Zeke out on a post route twenty yards. I think that would just scare the absolute crap out of DB's and maybe you pull out of him that way. Open up receivers on the other side, you know, worst lamp route or something like that. So my my biggest concern is the

wide receivers. I think Calvin Ridley has a good chance of being maybe the next Julio Jones also Alabama alum sure um and uh, I just think he is so NFL ready on his release, his route running, his hands are amazing and uh just has such a great boy type for number one. And so my question is is he at all possible uh for the Cowboys? If not?

Outside of Rokan Smith, who I also love, who do you see kind of the Cowboys wanting to trade up for like where do you see where do you see their them kind of pushing their chips to the table for like this player. I'll hang up. Yeah, I appreciate that, Thank you very much. Yeah, we talked about Calvin really a little bit earlier. Yeah. One thing that I disagree

with with Brian is the body type. That's my one one of my worries with Calvin release just to tick over six one right, he doesn't have ideal body armor like like a Julio Jones, and he'll get banged up a little bit. He's explosive, but exactly there's two most important things. I've said this every year, the most two most important things about a receiver. Can you get open and can you catch the ball? He's got two of those. Calvin really does both of those things exceptionally. So if

he's there at nineteen, it's a no brainer to mean. Now, my question to you two guys, Okay, would they do it? Well? The financial commitments? They have a wide receiver right now. I mean, Calvin really would be a day one upgrade over Terrence Williams at the Z Yeah, but how did they get out of that or that Terrence Williams contract? You know it just would they take a receiver there if it came, if it fell that way, I really I think they would. If it was just a no

brainer situation. I really think they would. And I don't think. I don't think you have to do anything drastic to your receiver cord to make that work. Honestly, you look at it. There's there's what, there's six right now. They carried six all year. Bryce Butler's an impending free agent. You certainly don't get the idea that he plans on coming back. Just from talking to him. Anything's possible. But that's just the idea that I get. Noah Brown is

a seventh round pick. They clearly liked him enough to keep. Yeah, there is sixth in my head. I'm just thinking that Noah Brown's the seventh round pick. Ryan Switzer's a fourth round pick. There's no there's nothing, nothing nothing, Man's that you keep either the guys on this team go and then and like I said, even if Bryce leaves, you can still keep them both. Add a draft pick as your sixth receiver if you want to get crazy with it.

Once you draft that guy, if you were to draft to Calvin Ridley, who's good enough to be your number one or number two from day one? You add that guy to the team, go into OTA's and if you want to, you could play hardball with Dez or Terrence and say, hey, take a pay cut, or we can cut you and this guy, I'll take your job. Or you could just carry those six and and move on from one of them next year and have your rookie

takeover at that point. Either way, I think it's totally I think it's totally doable to add a receiver without getting rid of either of those guys. But if you wanted to, you could. Yeah, it listen, you want does Brian on this team? And I still think he's the number one. Now, Calvin Ridley, I think would be the perfect number two who can step into that number one

role in a year or two. So I think adding a Calvin Ridley to me, you know, it's January fourth, okay, but where we stand right now, Calvin Ridley at nineteen would be the ideal pick for this team. Is that realistic? I think it's really I don't think it's receivers are so tough. Last year it's three went in to top ten. Would you consider him the best wide receiver in this class?

Right now? He's clearly the number one wide receiver. What are the odds that the number one receiver in this class falls all the way to Let's look at two years ago, when it was Laquon Treadwell, it was Josh Doxon, it was Corey Coleman. Only one of those guys went in top twenty, and that was Corey Coleman, who went fifteenth overall. So wide receivers are weird in the draft

unless you're an AJ Green or Julio Jones. And with with Calvin Ridley being gonna be a twenty four year old rookie with again the body type, the injury possibilities. That that's what worries me a little bit. It could causing to slip a little bit. I don't think it's likely he's there at nineteen. I do think it's possible.

And again, kind of like with Roquan Smith, if he's there at fourteen fifteen, is it worth you know, trading uh, you know, a third or a couple of fourths or whatever it takes to move up three or four spots. And I think Brian mentioned that too, is if he if that guy were to start, if he if he's there at like fourteen fifteen sixteen, you got some comp picks you can use, and you can trade those now

in this year. Yeah, maybe use one of those guys to get you up into the or maybe you deal your third knowing that you have two fourths or something like that. I mean, that's really I think that's that's

not crazy. We'll hear a lot about how a good thing that won week seventeen or else I would have been there, Yeah, which you know, I get that, and you know, for every sarcastic comment I read, it's like, Okay, that could be the difference between player and not but could be yeah, you missed you missed out on Aaron Donald and Ryan Shazier in fourteen and got the best guard in the game in Zach Matt. So I mean

that's what you think. You think p people or teams are kind of shined away from the receiver bit thing that that they're starting to say, hey, you don't have to take these guys, right, top ten? Right, Well, that's what I thought last year and then and then three went in the top ten. But you look at it. But but but you're looking at it. You're saying, well, hey, the receivers in this draft are better than those guys. Why you know, Okay, but like, let's look at the

three receivers draft a top ten last year. Corey Davis missed most of the year with injuries. Right, Mike Williams missed most of the year with injuries. John Ross did he play? I don't think he did. They were trying, they were maybe looking at him as a defensive back. So there's you know, those three picks in the top ten look like uh ill advised picks at this point. But that's what I'm saying. Are people gonna shy away

from this. People gonna say, I think it's possible, you know what, and and maybe he does sly unless you're in aj Green or Julio Jones or Larry Fitzgerald, all players that went in the top five. But also and I was, but there, I mean there's still guys. I think the cream has a way of rising in the top. I mean Odell Beckham twelve overall. Uh, Julio, I know he didn't have a great year this year, but I still consider Amari Cooper a really, really good receiver. Um So,

I don't know. Maybe I think it says more about the receiver class if he falls that far as right as opposed to like this trend that that receivers aren't worth it, because they absolutely are. If I'm gonna make a predict, a fair point, I'm gonna make a prediction. But this is I'm here with you know, first day we're gonna go another hour. Yeah, first first day prediction. I'm gonna say that people are gonna covet the running

backs more than the wide receivers in this draft. Well, I mean at the top of the top of wide receivers are gonna go down. Okay, quarterbacks, running backs up, wide receivers down. But I'm reluctant to say that the depth of the position. It's just it's the position though, because the running back is if Darius Geiss is RB,

people are seeing what running games or means for these teams. Sure, I well, yeah, and what what if jackson Oh yeah, is Leonard Fournette really wake Bortles was a bag of you know what, they get a running game, they get some defense, I would I'm I'm leaning more toward Todd Gurley, Zeke, Alvin Kamara as my reasons for that as opposed to Jacksonville. I don't. I mean, I mean, they made it. They made a top five commitment to get Fournette, No, and and he had a decent season, but it's not I mean,

it's not like he took the league over. That's all I'm trying to say. I think he barely had over a thousand yards I think, but solid solid, But the threat there, the talents, the talents in this running back class are just absurd though. I mean, Zeke himself thinks that Sequon Barkley is a better He did say that he is. He did, And I was going to ask you we didn't get to it. But somebody locked that Barkley's a top five pick. You think, I think so he's he's the twenty number one. I don't know. You

can't rule it out. I would say it's doubts. I mean, if somebody would trade up, I'm not saying that could take him number They need a running back, that's true. They well, I think the ideals so they get their quarterback at four, you need to if you're gonna take a quarterback'll take you have to take him a while. I'm right now on January fourth, I'm just gonna say the Browns should draft Rosen and Barkley and call it

a day. Well, that's the thing is, if you can get a quarterback at one, whether it's Darnold Rosen whoever, and then Barkeley at four, talk about a transformation of your offense, talk about selling some jerseys. Oh my god. Yeah, Dorsey doesn't sell this pick. It'll be interesting to see what kind of calls he gets because with the quarterbacks with you know, a Bradley Chubb could be there. I mean,

if it's Patrick whoever's there, that'll be interesting. But yeah, I think you look at the Giants at two, probably go quarterback, but Barkley would fill a huge need there Indianapolis. Frank Gore is on his final legs, I think, but you know, Barkley could be an option there. At three Cleveland, they need a running back, especially for a young quarterback. He could be the pick up four. So I'll have a tough time seeing Barkley fall out of top four picks.

How many how many running backs you got with first round grades right now? Just Barkley Barkley for him? Yeah, you don't even you don't have one on Geis or I like guys a lot. I have him as a late one, early two. Um, he could go in the teens,

could go in the twenties. But in terms of just shall you said, uh, let's see, let me pull my running back rank Barkley one, and then I have Guys and Carrie and Johnson with late one early twos, Nick Chubb also with a late one early two, and then I've got a bunch of twos Ronald Jones, Damian Harris, Sony Michelle U, Rashad Pennies in there. Yeah, and I think we still have a few Underclosset brace love I love I love that for the Cowboys. I don't know

if they'd yet. I'm saying you get ready and there's a there's a glut at at wide receiver too. I make it a prediction. Yeah, go ahead, if not a quarterback the first round, fifteen of the last twenty five drafts, a quarterback has gone number one. Yeah, I think that's going to continue. And here's the here's the trend. If it doesn't happen. Four defensive ends, three offensive tackles, one defensive tackle, one wide receiver, and one running back. Well,

let's just do some quick math there. I mean we you said offensive tackle sucks in this class. Yeah, it's not gonna be an off as the tackle. I'm I know there's some good defensive ends, but I don't think there's anybody on ub. Chubb is not Garrett. I'm he's not Garrett, but I think he's people like him. He's I think he's a top seven pick. That's fine, but I don't think he's good enough to be the number one.

You watched him, right, Yeah, and I, like I said, I think I watched him with an unfair bias because I've heard so much about it. But I came away from it thinking like he's good, but not like this transformative, franchise altering player. Agree he's not Garrett Yeah uh and so okay, defensive end, offensive tackle, no mate, Okay, maybe sae Quon Barkley, but otherwise, I mean it's gonna be a quarterback. I feel very comfortable saying that. Right, the

brown stay at one. I think there's an outside shot at running a sa Quon Barkley. But Indie, Who's who's the Indian? Does Indy need a quarterback? See that's some said I would worry about somebody moving like. I don't know if Chris Ballard knows it, but that's my That's my point is, even if somebody trades up into that pick, what are they doing it. They're doing it for a quarterback, right, You're not doing it for se Quon Barkley, even if

he is amazing. I don't think I agree, And that's why I think the Browns go quarterback at one, and you know, I understand fans Sparkley at one, then just get whatever quarterbacks left at four. That's not how it works. If you're going to drop the quarterback in the top four, you're taking your guy. Yeah, she's not trading this Pa.

I don't think he is well and you well, I'm just saying passing it on quarterback at one and taking him at four, yeah, risk the Giants taking him or someone trading up to three and somebody blockbustering going up in there. Right about Arizona, Barkley, Arizona. How about that? Teams have come at Philadelphia, came from the middle of the draft, and then you can have a new You have a new head coach in Arizona. Two. Yeah, Mike

mcagnet in New York, he desperate for a quarterback. At seven, Jets could move up the Broncos and Kirk Cousins could be the wild card in all this. Where does he sign a free agency Yeah, it's what if he goes to Cleveland? What if he goes to Denver? All of a sudden one of those teams in the top five does not need a quarterback. I'm so excited. All right, let's go, let's let can we skip? Can we skip to like March four? Yeah, we got let's skip to the combat so got we still got time, We still

got time for the thing. Oh, hey, they're talking about Darnol and Rode all right here, Hey, well, Thanks everybody out there for joining us for this maiden voyage of the Draft Show. We'll be back next Thursday at the same time, eleven am Central. We'll have some more coverage for you. We'll be getting ready to go through the Senior Bowl. We'll probably go through some of those guys. If you have some more questions, again, make sure you

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