Draft Show: 2017 Kickoff; Senior Bowl Preview

us get through all this in the draft process. Dame Brugler from CBS Sports Dallas Cowboys dot Com contributor one of the young men that I would absolutely if I was running a football team have as an NFL scout on my staff. I think he's one of the best young talented scouts out there and you should always pay attention to what Dame Brugo is going to say. Join us. So by David Hellman, writer from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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of teams. Here's four teams left. But now we move on to the next phase and the Senior Bowl. Dane and you know, the the other game. But we got the NFL Players Association games, you know, the East West Game, but the really the one that we tend to focus on on our end of it is the Senior Bowl. And we focus on the Senior Bowl because the Senior Bowl last year brought us names like Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz, Dion Jones, so many names, Sterling Shepherd, Yeah, Cody Whitehead guy,

you absolutely love Hargrave. Who you recommended for the Senior Bowl to bring in, Noah Spence, Braxton Miller, Kenneth Dixon, Blake Martinez who's going to play in the championship game this week in for Green Bay. So as we focus on the Senior Bowl, some names stain. I mean, it maybe doesn't have the d that doesn't have the star power that we've seen in previous Senior Bowls, namely last year. But there's a good group of names of guys that

we need to focus on for this for this particular game. Yeah, there's no question, and the Senior Bowl is unique. I think everyone thinks of the offseason in the draft process. First name that comes to our first word that comes to mind as the combine. Yeah, but the Senior Bowl is so important because when you think about it, it's the last event where that we're doing actual football things.

I mean they're wearing pads, they're wearing equipment. You know, they're on a football field outside where you know the combine it's shorts and a T shirt, right, individual workouts the Pro days. You know, it's a lot like we see at Pro Days, the same event at these guys having Wren shorts and T shirts. In a while, let's be real, they're wearing like Nike bodysuits now. But your point as well, man, Yeah, exactly. So that's why you know the Senior Bowl, and it's really when the coaches

start to get involved in the draft process. Right, the scouts, they've been on the road all fall. They have a good idea of who these guys are the general managers. But for the coaches, who are so invested in the NFL season now, this is really their first impression of a lot of these prospects. And to give you just a brief idea of the players that will be in

Mobile next week. In my Top fifty which I just released this week and we'll talk about yes later, seventeen seniors on my Top fifty and nine will be in Mobile. So eight have pulled out, Ruben Foster, Corey Davis, some of the top guys, but there's plenty of talent. OJ Howard, the talented tight end from Alabama. Tack McKinley was supposed to go, he pulled out. Forrest Lamp, the talented offensive

linement from Western Kentucky will be there. Evan ingram Ole, Miss Hassan Reddick Temple, George Lewis Michigan, Ryan Anderson Alabama to Davious White, LSU Desmond King Iowa. Guy will be talking about a lot, Dan Feeni Indiana. So the all these guys are projected top two rounds and they'll all be immobile with a chance to move up and help themselves.

And I'm gonna spend this real quick because I mean, okay, it's not as sexy a list as the one you just read from last year, but the Cowboys are picking twenty eighth. So there were several names. Yeah, there were several names that came to mind when Dane started running down his list of guys. You know, and I really like the of the sorry of the guys you've just read off. I like a lot of their chances of being around for the Cowboys to pick. O. J. Howard

was one. We talked about it. I know people out there. Don't want me to start talking about the draft process and talking about a tight end, but he is, you know, depending on what you think about the butt kid from Michigan who's now injured, or what you think about with Oj Howard. You know, McKinley was another one. I feel like though even looking at this, you know, and you look at the strength potentially of this draft, and we're gonna get into a bunch of these guys, But defensive

end seems to be a position. Even though McKenley is listed as an outside linebacker on your top fifty, he's an outside linebacker in a defensive end right, So you you have that, you know there's players, and it's ashamed that he is not going to be a part of this, but I think that, you know, if you're looking for, if you're a team, it's also looking maybe at an offensive tackle. You know, we we've talked about maybe a team looking at offensive line even guard type players and

stuff like that. Uh, you know, Fenie the kid from Indiana. You talked about Lamp as another one too, and and and and just talk about if you would lamp really quick, lamp quickly about Yeah, I love him, I need that job. But but but yeah, but you you kind of in your thought process about LAMB, you kind of see maybe what we had with a couple of years ago with Zach Martin, Zach Martin's and that's and you start talking about comparison, and you can you can address Zack Martin,

Dave and what he's meant to this organization. Anybody that's listening to this, I have a feeling, yes, as all about Zack Martin. And he really helped Zack Martin in twenty fourteen. He went into the Senior Bowl week as a player most thought would probably be a first rounder when he left Mobile. Oh he's a lock first rounder. This is where Daron donalds. But yeah, here's where the three guys that could block Aaron Donald can? Can Lamp

be that guy? And Zack Martin was a four year starter at left tackle at tackle, Yes, attack and that same thing with what you're seeing this as a projection then right, exactly the same thing with Lamp. He's a four year starter at left tackle for Western Kentucky. Uh, And I know a lot of people are thinking all Western Kentucky. You know, Conference USA didn't face top tier talent.

Watch his tape against Alabama. Yeah, watch him against Jonathan Allen Tim Williams, two talented pass rushers who bring different skill sets. Allan's obviously more power, tim Williams more speed. He handled both and I like him better inside at guard. He's similar to Zach Martin when I say could he stay outside and play tackle? Probably he could probably get away with it, but you move him inside to guard.

He's an all pro, so a very talented player. I'll play devil's advocate when we talk about, you know, maybe some of the top guys passing on the chance to be in Mobile. Honestly, do we really need to see Jonathan Allen and Dabiel? I mean we know who he is. Really, I'm more excited about who's going to replace him. And it's another chance for one of these mid rounders to help himself. Yeah, that's where and Dave, we you know when we go down there and Dane brought it up,

coach's first opportunity. You listen to what the scouts limit this. Dak Prescott was really a coach driven pick. Yeah, you know they that scouts kind of felt like with Jamille Showers, they had that they had that guy. They Dak Prescott kind of guy. But you know, here they are. They get to coach in the game, they get to see they had firsthand, they get to interview all those things.

I mean, this is just a great opportunity. I mean, after the way the Cowboys draft went last year, you know, I think it started off with a really good week at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, and I mean I'm glad they're not coaching in it because I don't mean they had a terrible year, but I think that was invaluable for and not I mean obviously Dak was on the other team anyway, So not just with Dak, but right,

you get your hands on a lot of guy. I mean, obviously they didn't pick him, but it gave you a great head start with Carson Wentz, and I mean a guy that they liked a lot. Nobody had a better grasp on Carson Wentz than the Cowboys after getting to

practice with him for a week. You know, I'm looking at the list though of guys, and a guy that I highlighted was that DeShawn Hall from Texas A and M. And everybody's familiar with Eric Miles Garrett on the other side, but talk a little bit about DeShawn Hall and really what he at Texas A and M what he was able to accomplish now getting an opportunity, there's a defensive end guy. There's a guy with some link, There's a guy with some range six five, two seventy, you know,

like his motor. Yeah, exactly, you had a chance. Okay, you know I sat down and watched. I got to work. You know, the season ended Sunday. I'm doing my best, he goes. But talk about that what you saw him. I mean, you know, being an lttle shoe guy, you're familiar with the SEC opponents though, but talk about what you saw yesterday watching Hall on tape a little bit.

Like the thing that stood out to me the most was just his motor, Like he got everywhere, even when the play got when it got past him, he was there to make the backside tackle or if it was on the other side of the field, he always wound up in the pile anyway. Just he's not a and you know, he's not the star pass rusher for A and M. That's Myles Garrett, so he probably can't afford to do that. But I didn't see him taking plays off.

And I mean what. We watched him for a half hour or more exactly, and he I mean he was given great effort on every snap that I watched. So that's the thing that stood out to me the most. And then the other thing is for pass rushers, especially like you talk about Randy Gregory and guys that I look at your size coming out of college. Yeah, because I don't want to have five to seven There's something too that, right, big dude, I don't want to have to spend time like bulking you up and getting you

in NFL shape. So his size and his effort stood out to me immediate. But we find in that though, is there a combination and mix And I'll let you talk about hal but we find in there's a little bit of the two fifty five guy Tim Williams at Alabama. Are we finding there's a little bit of a two seventy two sixty five guys and then that two fifty five guys the two hundred and fifty five pound guys. You know, whether it be the kid at Missouri, you know that kind of mean aston from from Lawson from

Alburn's another one too. Yeah, And when you're building a pass rusher prototypically you want the six five, two eighty long arms, but still a freak athlete. You know, you want Jadeveon Clowney, but not all pass rushers come in that package. And I think this plenty of guys in this draft will show that Carl Lawson's one of them.

He's that yeah, Brandon Graham type of rusher who he was going to be at the Senior Bowl but didn't have enough credits to graduate in time, so he will not be at the Senior Bowl, but still a terrific player who I think will be in play at twenty eight for the Cowboys. Yeah, I too, I agree with you there on that. I liked watch and Loss and Play. I thought there was I thought there was that explosive edge player. You know, put his hand down, he could, he could stand up, he could kind of do a

lot of different things. I like the way he attacked the corner of these offens. Attack and Day brought up a point that I don't think gets talked about enough when you're talking about the edge rusher. The ability to rate to retrace with these quarterbacks move the way they do in the pocket, if you go up the field, your ability to get back inside and capture the quarterback when he's on the move. I think it's a very underrated trait that we're seeing with these with these defensive

most blockers can't account for that. They don't have the counter measures to deal with that. With all their momentum going one way, it's a lot easier for guys like Loss and others to cut back inside. And you know, it's something that I think we're seeing throughout the league where you don't have to be that Jadeveon Clowney to make an impact. And there's plenty of undersized edge rushers who are being used different ways, attack the pocket from

different angles. Right Laramy Tunsel, who was the top tackle last year and last year's draft, he said Carl Awston was the toughest rusher he faced. So the high praise for the Auburn kid. If as long as the medicals checkout for Lawson, he's a guy, we'll be talking about plenty that you see. And that's something you brought up to that we you know, as when you're evaluating these kids,

you're really evaluating the tape. I mean, the scouts have the opportunity with the interviews, the medical you know, we you know, those are the things you always I mean last year, I just remember evaluating Noah Spence on what Noah Spence was as a player, and how the lofty expectations I had for Noah Spence. But then you start getting into character issues, problems at Ohio State, you know, and Dane talked about it wouldn't bother you though, No,

it never bothers me. You know, it never bothers me. I mean what bothered me was that Dane was as right as he was about Joey Bosa. I'll admit that now. I mean I still think that. I still think that Greg Els and I. Hey, the Draft Show always welcome opinions, always welcome opinions. Okay, we don't need to delve back. Well,

but to your point we were talking. You know, I put a clip up on Twitter last night, you guys talking up Malik Collins for all of the criticism that you got and the show got for being down on Joey Bosa. I found a clip last night in the show the week before the Draft where we were like, everybody calmed down, Joey Bosa is a great player. Yeah, we we criticize everybody on this show. You look into everything it's not like we thought he was a bad

place and I think it got fun that way. That's okay, I mean, and it won't be surprised if Miles Garrett not on this show. Maybe, but just you know, around all the noise, Miles Garrett gets a similar rap where you know he only had what eight sacks this year? Or yeah, maybe you know we start he's been the number one guys. If I call him Joey Bosa is

at a compliment? It is? It is now. I mean, Miles Garret has been number one guy since the number and so we're just everyone's poke holes get ready for between now and April whatever, twenty eighth, we will find a reason to pick that guy apart. Yeah, that's that's the thing about it. And he is he is clear the clear number one player on a lot of people's boards.

Another player that I think when we get to Dane, and we're gonna do this a little bit later in the show, Dane put out his top top fifty and I think it's a very interesting list. There's some names I want to go through, but you know, I'll throw a name out there. I think that people are going to attack and that's and that's the Peppers kid from Michigan. Don't get too much into that. You're stealing my thunder for the next segment. Okay, when we'll get to that though,

But yeah, I want to. I definitely want to get into that about Peppers. But that's that's the thing with no clear cut quarterback and we we really I don't think there was really a clear cut and refresh me last year who they had, who was the the top guy, who not the top quarterback? Who was the player that we were everybody was thinking about was going to be the consensus number one overall? That would you remember quarterback? No? Just in general, I'm trying to think of the players

like Ramsey's unsel Ramsey Treadwell was another one. I mean, people were talking about a lot of different guys up there, So I mean, I think it is the process goes on. Oh you're gonna see guys go up that thing, and I think what's gonna happen too, is you're gonna see guys come down that it's the media scouts And I'm not talking about us here, Dane or you know what you do with CBS. I just think that there's the Kipers and those guys that will push guys like Peppers

and them way up the board. Then all of a sudden, the scouts start whispering to Dane at the Senior Bowl or whispering to me, hey man, that Peppers, where are you gonna play him? Gonna are you gonna play him? But Miles Garrett could be the very same thing that the sack numbers and all that, and people might say, hey, Haul on the other side really was a better player. On the opposite side of that, we weren't really talking about.

Carson Wentz says that it can't miss the top five guy until we got back from Mobile, right, and that was another experience that Zeke did not join the top ten conversation until closer to the combine. I always remember thinking about Zeke though, there was some fundamental differences about

not the player, but where where you would take him? Right, Yeah, And I think that and that's something that we're gonna get into in the show is there's some running backs in this draft, and Dane Brugler's got got several of them in his top fifty. And now do we see a shift and people saying, you know what, you got to go back to running the football. You gotta go back to being a physical team. And do you take a shot Cowboys, the Florida State, Yeah, Pittsburgh Steward, Well, exactly,

I promise you. On draft Day in April, someone on the ESPN NFL network, it will be said, well, the Cowboys did this last year with Zekiel Elliot. Now Team X is trying to do the same thing with Leonard Fournette or Dalvin Cook. It was sound like we said word for word on draft day. And you sound like you kind of still disagree with that, don't you. Well,

and I thought, no, I exactly. I mean the running back position, if the player is good enough and the situation is right, then it makes sense in the top ten, top twenty. Yeah, but you know I don't think that. I mean, Zeke's such a special player. If Zeke was in this class, he's the number one running back. And this is a statue. Is he the number one player

in the draft? Well, I mean, I'm just based on draft grade, based on the grade that we had last yet, not what we know what he did as a rookie, but just based on draft grade, he would be the top running back in this group. It's a good group, though, I think very good. If you get trying to play copycat, you better have the line. You better have the line. Now you're right, Okay, we're gonna take our first break here when we come back. We got we got the senior bull taking care of a couple of guys to

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Clock back here at from the SWBC Morgage Studios. Brian Broadest, David Hellman, Dame Brugler, Kent Garrison, executive producer, Gonna get into out to Twitter on the twenty I said it's a couple different ways that we can get into that with. You can get a hold of us at the Draft show. Hope you follow at the Draft show as well, a lot of information that we put on that about our shows where will be maybe things you can learn as

we go along. And so with that being said Twitter on the Twitter, thank you very much, Ken Garrison for being on the switch. David Hellman take it away please and shout out ed k Hill as usual than um All right, Well, you were getting into this when we let in the first segment and I cut you off so rudely. So that's cool. We're gonna start with that. Won't be the last time. I don't think there's a more polarizing figure in the draft, at least in this going,

this early going, than Jabral Peppers. So Billy wants to know why is Ji Jabril Peppers seemingly falling down the draft board and does that put him in the Cowboys range? Just kind of talk to me about what's going on with this guy. Well, if you if you read my colleagues, top fifty puts him right in range for the Cowboys. If that's the case, it's right. I have him at thirty two. I believe yes, thirty two. Yeah. So with that, you know, I I to me, this is gonna sound

really strange. I think he's either gonna and you can't find a position for him. But you could say he's a football player, say damn year exactly. Now, I'll let you go with that. But I'm having a problem finding a spot where I really think you can maximize his talent. That's the issue because he's a very good player in terms of athleticism, terms of football instincts. There's a lot to like about him. But where you play him is the key. His his ability and coverage is below average,

and that's really the issue is loose player. Can you have a safety who you can't rely on in coverage? You know, you have need a guy that's gonna be coming up downhill the entire time. If so, then maybe he's a better linebacker. But we're talking about a guy's going to be about five eleven two fifteen when he weighs in. He's going to be a guy that he's gonna be eaten up by blockers near the line of scrimmage.

So where do you play a talent like this? I guarantee you there will be coaches when they get involved in the process that look at his tape and they say, I'm sure he's not a running back. That's exactly where I would play him. I'm glad you said that. Well, you saved me from saying I'm going on for two minutes about this. I think he's a running back. I really do. I think you watch him carry the ball in some of these situations where the wildcat returner. Yeah,

he has got some loose playability. He really does. So this is like the most known name among defensive backs in the draft. I'm not saying the best. I'm just saying the one that people know, and you're telling the most not on the right side of the ball. Me personally, I'm glad to hear him say that. But and see that's the issue. You just said, how he's the most well known. Sure, that's what got him to the Heisman, Sarah,

he's the most well known player. He wasn't a top three player on that Michigan defense this year and the cornerback's going to be in Mobile this week. Jordan Lewis at corner is better. Taco Charleton a defensivendos better that Michigan defense is really loaded and Peppers, while a nice player and definitely made an impact. The splash plays, the ESPN highlights stats with guide him to the Heisman. That's

what has been generating all his buzz about him. But when you really study the tape, more questions than answers with Peppers. So, you know, could it be a situation like Landing Collins, the former Alabama safety doing some nice things with the Giants who his big thing? The big weakness with him coming out of college was coverage covered? But the Alabama safety has had that problem. We go back to Mark Barron was another one, but now fast forward and he's doing a lot better in that area.

So could Peppers be a similar situation where you know, we say we look at him and say, look, he's an lead athlete, there's a lot to like about his football intelligence, will draft him and we'll coach the rest out of him, similar to a call Ins. But the bigger question, okay, what's his value? Then? Where do you feel comfortable taking a guy like that that needs coached

up and too? In Pepper's defense, I do think that once he's given once of responsibilities, great he will be He'll have a much better chance to be comfortable with his situation because at Michigan he was spending time in a defensive meeting room. Then he's going to the offense. Then he's one of the special teams. He had to know the offensive playbook. It's not like they had five

plays for him, and they did. They did this direct snaps, but the full offensive playbook right and everything going on. So I think he was stretched so thin that it really hurt him on defense. Once he has a chance to focus on one position, one set of responsibilities, that would really helps development. But still, I mean I put him at number thirty two on my board, so I

still have some questions there. Okay, And assuming he's not playing running back in the NFL, which I'm not saying he couldn't, assuming he doesn't quickly safety or corner, I mean, where would you play him? Well, I think Dane would play him a lineback, well, a hybrid linebacker, dab Buchanan what he's doing in Arizona that but does he really tackle that? Well, See, that's gonna be a big question about people gonna watch tape and see he doesn't tackle great. No,

that's the problem. And you worry about him playing linebacker at his size, maybe he's a will linebacker. I that this is the big You got a great football player, but you got to figure out I totally agree with everything he said. I'm very excited because we're one show in the Peppers is going to turn into your Bosa for this year. Well no, no, I mean I'm not calling no, no, no no. I will say this though, I think you have to like he like Dane says, I think you have to put him at one spot

and let him flourish it that spot. And there are there are times when you say, look, we'll draft him, we'll figure out how to play him later. This is not that case with Peppers. You have to have a plan in place before you draft him. You're not gonna draft him and try and fit him in later. He could be at your spot at twenty eight. That's a possibility. It's a great segue. Let's get to some other questions. Paul wants to know. I'm kind of putting all on

the spot here. I know you don't have boards or rankings real but Cowboys fans want edge rushers and they want corners, and they're picking twenty eighth. So throw me some names that are realistic here for that range for those positions. Well, I think the two positions that the strongest this year. Yeah, I think you're a great shape, right, I think you're a great shape. Go ahead, you. I mean, I've got the thing. The names I've got. We talked

about Lawson, we talked about McKinley, Tim Williams. Now, okay, there's some stuff baggage. Now get ready, and you know people are gonna say, you know what, how how severe is the baggage, Brian? But those are names of right ends. McKinley, Lawson, Williams. People talk about Burnett or some mean Burnett at a Tennessee and they talk about McDowell out of Michigan State. Those are left ends. To me, am I am I

wrong about that? I agree with you. So I'm taking you know, and then if you want to go down the line, say you go corner first. The second round right ends. I had the smooth kid from Illinois and then I had to get the Harris kid from Missouri. Those were guys I were looking at as right defensive ends, and I think look at it at the pass rushers, Miles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Solomon Thomas Derek Barnett crossed those guys off. They're not going to be there at twenty

eight unless something something happens now in the draft. I think you know you mentioned you said those names with Tim Williams, with his baggage, he could follow that far. Tack McKinley, he's going to blow up the combine. Yeah. I think he's going to be a real riser throughout this process. He might play himself out of that twenty eight pick. We might not be there. Carl Lawson, guy we talked about. I think he's in that mix. Medicals will be important for him. Charles Harris from Missouri, a

guy who's just he's very young in football years. Didn't start playing football really until he's a junior in high school. They moved him around a little bit with that scheme at Missouri. You know, once he has a chance to really learn the position, I think he could blossom. One of the I think more. You know used the word polarizing with Peppers. A polarizing guy's gonna be DeMarcus Walker from Florida State because I think he's a three technique myself.

That's it's another guy, you know, That's why I didn't listen him because in my mind, I got Peppers is a tweener. Yeah, and the same thing with Walker. He you could see him. You know, the production is great. You watch his splash plays, he's really impressive. But those splash plays are coming from the three technique position where he has space against the guard and the guard has no shot. Right, we saw it on the old Misty. Yeah.

So but he's not going to be able to play three technique on first and second down, right, So what is he is? He a left end on first and second down? He movement inside down. See that's that that And I know a lot of people are talking about him, and I told you I felt like that he was better inside, had a better chance to win against a guard than I did against an offensive tackle. You're absolutely right, Cowboys left position flex, I know, but but you need

you need that. They really need a right end. I mean, you know that's it's a good to play rotation. And they want to have pair Someway with Benson Mayowa. You know they're gonna they're gonna have to go wither. Here's a name for Cowboys fans to remember. Derek Rivers from Youngstown State, Okay, is a guy that just got bumped up to mobile. He will be at the Senior Bowl. He has a chance to move up a little bit. Really impressive athlete. He could play right in for the Cowboys.

He might put himself on the top one hundred range right now, having the fourth round. But he's a guy to look at if they don't go pass run. There's a lot of offensive tackles I believe in this Senior Bowl. I mean that if you look at the position, it might be the best to me the offensive tackle group. So he'll get some opportunities against some guys that might be an opportunity. Corners real quick, just corner real quick in that group. Twenty eight white from l Shoe Sidney Jones.

Where do you think Sidney Jones is? City Jones got a guy that's just mocked here by yeah hyper for whatever that's worth. Yeah yeah, And I've had him here in my mocks multiple times. It makes sense. Sidney Jones from Washington, a guy who he's the better the corners from who's the better the two corners at Washington? I like Jones better. I mean that's Kemon King. He's long, he's tall, he can run disappointing he turned down. He's senior bowl in. Yeah, he could have helped himself. But

a good player. But yeah, give me, give me Sidney Jones. Some of my second round guys too that I had on my board and I don't I'm tankerously from Clemson. Desmond King was a guy I think if he had to come out last year, would have been a for sure first round pick. I don't know if he's a safety. I like him better at safe. I think that's a question. You have to think. It's a great it's a great segue. Actually, Yeah.

And Humphrey from Alabama is another guy that is a long guy that can't kind of really run, but he's a physical son of a gun. All Right, you just kind of touch on this. But Alfredo wants to know other than Hooker and Adams. Yeah, the Ohio State and LSU guys who I don't figure to be in play for the Cowboys. Safeties that you like in this draft. Well, that's I'm saying. You got to project Desmond King as a Safety's that he's big. He's a big guy. He's

a big guy, and he's built. He's not off, you know, he's not tall. He's about five eleven, but he's built really well. Yeah and two fifteen and he'll hit you. He's as tough as he is. He's a cheap shot guy too, which is kind of crazy. He's not afraid to like him. Oh yeah, he'll take a run at guys. The player will be over and he'll take a run at somebody. He's not afraid to take a run. So

I kind of like his attitude about that. I thought too that Marlon Humphrey was a guy too that was a little bit maybe I thought about could play as a free safety there. Marcus Williams from Utah solid play, solid player, but yeah, Budha Baker is a guy who bakers. Another one that's twenty eight. I think could be a possibility. If there's a player that's your honey Badger. Yeah, there's a player that's close to the honey Badgers. Now he's

not I'm not saying he's Tyron Matthew. But if there is a player that comes closest to that honey Badger or comparison, it's Buddha Baker. With everything that he does us in pass carverage against the run, yeah, physical, his play range five ninety five though, is his height, Yeah, that's nine. Stop the badger. No, but the badger's get Badger's rare. Now, the badger is rare when when it comes to that quickness and all that. But this, you know,

I think pass rusher is number one. Pass rusher in corner A one A one B. Safety might be that next position in terms of talent at the top and in depth throughout the draft. Yeah, I love everything y'all are saying. Um, I'll answer this one from Sean well, thank you. Well, that's good. He's asking about compensatory picks. Yeah, um, are they in line for any from last year? Who did they lose in free agency? Well, they lost their didn't they have to do up at five for the

quarterback Matt Castle? Matt Castle in line. Other than that, I think they got their full compliments of picks. I'm trying to think of anybody they lost. I can't remember what I had for breakfast, to be honest, I remember any major losses in free agency last year. Yeah, unless I'm just completely drawing a blank, Well, I think and then and then I mean people thinking, you know, yes, they could be in line for a compensatory pick. When, if or when Ron Leary leaves in free agency eighteen.

You would not get that for this draft. And if you do something with Romo, sure, sure, that's a big one. This is the first year compensatory picks are a to be traded. Yes, and now we got to pay attention. The compens story used to be hammer and hammer and hammer, hammer, and now it's now it's like, whoa wait, that pick just got moved. I'm sitting here, Prescott was a compensed

story pick. That is true. And actually for the offensive tackle that went to Jacksonville, I believe that's what they want. Jeremy Parnell, Yes, because your your Murray pick got wiped out by the Hardy signing. So thank you, Jeremy Parnell. So long story short, I don't expect the Cowboys to have a lot in the way of compensatory picks this year. Maybe next year in eighteen. Yes yeah uh. Also shout out to another Nick, happy birthday, you asked for it,

Good for you, Happy birthday. Um okay, and then a third Nick, Oh no second next sorright whatever? Even with the need for defense, and think another one people want to hear a lot about is wide receiver you got Terrence Williams and Bryce Butler heading for free agency. How

do you feel about the receiver class twenty eight second round? Also, And I think another interesting aspect of this is, you know, you don't think of this team as needing offense is certainly not in the first round, but with the way that things shaping up, you think that's conceivable that that's your best bet at twenty eight defense, no receiver receiver, you know what it could be. It depending on how this thing stretches with defensive end when you look at

the defensive ends, when you look at the corners. I mean, we just went through a litany of guys right there, but the wide receiver group will stretch a little bit too. Here. You know, when you start talking about when you get into the especially in the second round, I know there's three guys in the top of the top of the thing. And I think when you you have Williams in your top fifty over Davis number one. Yeah, and you like

Davis better? Right? I do? I like Davis. I have one of them now based only on that, but that's what I'm saying. There's three there's three guys right there that I mean, and you and you also include Ross in that mix of the thing. Those are the top three guys, so this thing might stretch a little bit. Maybe not the top two. But if Ross but Ros would get there at twenty eight, he'll be very interesting. Because this is a player that I see a Brandon

Cooks type of guy. You know, he's undersized, but he can fly. Uh. He can beat you at every level of defense. And he's not just a speedster. He is a polished route runner. He has some injury stuff in his past with his knees, doesn't have the biggest catch radius. He's not going to be a guy that wins routinely in traffic, but he's a playmaker. He can be a home run threat. There's a lot to like about. Keep an eye in the Reynolds kid from Texas, A and M. He'll be it. You like him. I did like him.

I liked him in the fact that I thought it was a guy that built up speed as he ran. He's gonna be a guy that's everyone loves guys. Don't I don't know. I don't I see a number four receiver, see a four in him? I see a four? I don't I don't see. So then that means you don't have him, and you don't have him, you would have him been three four on your board then right, got him in the four. Okay, I don't I get it.

I understand why people like him. Um he's a long stride or he deep, he can you know, jump balls, but I don't. I don't trust him as a number two. I think there's too many times him or Juju from from as far as trust trust is. What do you mean? Okay? I mean, okay, you would take Juju over him. It just depends what kind of role I'm looking for. Juju might be best in the slot though. Yeah, you know where a guy that's gonna find open space and zones

and uh, you know, can beat you up. Physics Smith Schuster, Jus were t usc My biggest thing with Reynolds, and this is what I need to see from him, like to change my mind. He got beaten up by corners and they got in his face and they got physical. You're going to see the press coverage stuff from the scene. They knocked him out of bounds. He couldn't do anything about it. They knocked him off his route, he couldn't

do anything about it. In the NFL He's going to see a lot of press coverage, and I just don't see him enough getting off that press coverage and making plays downfield. How about Westbrook, another guy who I wish was going to be in mobile this Yeah, unfortunately he decided to pull out. He he's getting some bad advice, but an explosive guy. He's got some baggage as well. Can he play consistently on the outside. I see a little bit of Will Fuller in him? Um, you know

the good you had? Like we watched him last night for about thirty minutes, and I just saw DeShawn Jackson. That's the same measurables. Yeah, yeah, gonna run in the four threes. Yeah, I don't like I watched thirty minutes of tape, but like I don't think of him as like this polished complete receipt. He's but he's got the speed and the breakout ability to beat ninety percent of people. I mean, DeShawn Jackson's a one trick pony, but it's been working for a decade. Less. If him or Shepherd

at Oklahoma, you like Shepherd him at Oklahoma better. I like Shepherd's reliability better. Westbrook has more home run potential to him. I think Shepherds. He Shepherd's are more polished receiver, right, and is coming out of Westbrooks. Youre will will Fuller. He's gonna drop that end zone pass on the fifty yards exactly. He snatched a few of them, though he had a couple of end scrabs. Yeah, but he also played in the Big twelve against terrible defenses. Now that's

that's Dane Burglar at DP Burglar. How'd westbrook do against Ohio State? Not too well? Not too well. He weighs like one hundred and seventy. Yeah, okay, right, Jenkins is gonna eat him alive, Dave, thank you so much for that. We appreciate the Twitter on twenty Thanks everybody that fired in their Twitter. Okay, we're gonna take our last break and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna put Dane Brugler on the hot seat. Might even take one or two of your calls eight eight eight eight five

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we speak. Okay, is there anybody anybody you want to get to right now? Or you want to just keep lining them up. We'll line them up. Call us a five, two nine seven. We'll preview a little this and it will hit some calls. Okay, sounds good. You just jump in anytime you want. Okay, let's get into Dame Bruler's Top fifty. This is his first edition of the Top fifty that he put out. This is they say the in the in the internet world one point. Oh, I

never quite understood that. But I'll go with a software thing. I got it, I got it, but I'm learning. But yeah, this is his first one. This will this will change. I mean there'll be information, they'll fluctuate a little bit. But I always like the first one because I think that's really the generally that's the I always like the draft board when you when you built it and it

as what you do and just watching the tape. And then I always took a picture of the draft board because I always felt like that's the best our board was going to be, because it all it was was about the tape. It wasn't about interviews, medical information, guys putting on gas masks, you know, laremy tunsil. You know, it wasn't about all that stuff. Oh boy. So and by the way, that's scouts are just they threw up in the mouth when they saw that, you know, that

whole thing. But you gotta know about falling out of the top ten, Yeah, you gotta know about that. All right, Let's get into this Dane Brewer's Top fet and I encourage you to go to CBS Sports dot com Dane's Top fifties. On that. There's a couple, mom, I want to look at here at picks or at picks at the player position three and four. You have two safeties,

really good safety Hooker and Adams. Tell us the thought process with Hooker and Adams going back to back and tell me the last time, and I've been doing this since nineteen ninety one. I can't remember two safeties being that high, too highly considered in a draft. I've seen one safety be up there, but I haven't seen two. And you've got him back to back. We've seen, you know, a safety go in the top five. It's not, you know, uncommon, right.

Sean Taylor comes immediately to mind. Eric Turner back in the early nineties, he went like second overall, highest it's ever been. Yeah, right, So it's not impossible. And really it's not because I don't teams don't value the safety position. It's because they're just haven't been team or safety's worthy of a top five to ten pick. That's not the case. This year. You have Malie Cooker and Jamal Adams, two guys that are arguably two of the five best players

in this draft overall. They have a chance to go very high. With Millie Cooker. Interesting guy because it's only one year starter, Uh play it was a basketball guy. Most of his life's quick. Oh yeah, the amount of movement can cover yeah in his range. His ball skills, the ball production was outstanding at seven interceptions this year. He has the acrobatic ball skills to come down with

those interceptions. So much to like about him. Very tough as a run defender and needs to work on some angles, but overall a very good starting free safety who can cover. Tell me about Adams a little bit. Will you remember it from your days at Ellis and you Uh, he's so much fun to watch. I was actually like when we when you when when you tease this, I was just like, man, I hate that he's not even a consideration just because he's gonna go way before. Yeah. I

actually ran into him at the Green Bay game. He was there. He's from Carrol Tsel No, No, I was. I would though, and that's I mean, he's he's he got picks in college. But I don't think of him as like that ball hawk guy. He's just a heat seeking missile. He comes down to the line, he goes

back in coverage. He he made a play against Lamar Jackson and Louisville in the ball game where he chased the guy down from across the field and came from it wasn't anywhere near his assignment, and he stopped the guy for like a three yard game coming from the other side of the formation around the line. He's just super fast, super great instincts, makes plays everywhere. I don't know if he's gonna be like an eight or nine pick type of guy, but he's just he's gonna be

in on every tackle. He's gonna know where the ball is going before the quarterback does. He's so much fun. And the other thing that scouts love about him besides his DNA his dad was a great football player. But he's an alpha. I mean, he's a leader. He's the guy who's very vocal, very energet. His teammates feed off that energy, and that's something that you can see clearly on tape, but also something that coaches rave about, his

teammates rave about. That's something that will play really well in interviews, and you feel pretty good about the player you're getting with Jamal Adams. Yeah, he didn't have to grow into his role at LSU. He was established from day one for sure. Dalvin Cook at seven, Leonard Fournette

at twelve fell mede. The thinking behind that, Yeah, I think everyone kind of assumed Leonard Fournette was going to be the top running back, you know, when as soon as he became a junior and was eligible for the draft.

I prefer Dalvin Cook and really it's because there's more that goes into the running back position than just being big, fast and powerful, which Leonard Fournette is, And obviously Leonard Fournett's a very very good prospect to have him at number twelve, But Dalvin Cook has that combination of of course, he's a great athlete's explosive, his jump cuts are outstanding,

he's fast, the accelerations outstanding. But his ability to the vision, the atians, the run tempo, that's what really sets him apart. Now with Dalvin Cook, he also has some issues with the shoulders. Right, he's not the biggest guy. Uh. If he was a little bigger and I didn't have any durability questions, I'd have him above Zeke in terms of just my grades coming out as running backs. But that's something that makes Zeke complete back. I mean we're talking.

I mean you can watch this guy block, I mean and be really and do a great job out of it and then also split him out and they throw him nine round Oh yeah, he can. He can run rounds. He's a very good receiver. He can block. He's willing for sure, and needs a little work in that area technically, but a very good player. Nonetheless problems with Fournette. I don't know about problem. I mean, and honestly, it reminds me a lot of the Peppers conversation and a little

bit of the Bosa conversation. Like there, I mean, there's obvious I don't want to say flaws, but there's things Leonard Fournette needs to work on. I don't think of him as a great blocker. They never used as a receiver at Lshoe and that doesn't mean he can't. A lot of people tell me that, well he's not using

the passing game. That doesn't mean he but you gotta show those skills little bit though it would be nice, right, I mean, hey, it's not like Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry were in a great system for them at LSU either, and it didn't stop them. Point being honestly, though, you know, Fournette's been a household name since he came out of high school. He was a Heisman contender as a true sophomore. So I think the natural inclination is to think he's

the best guy. But and it sounds like a hot take because everybody knows his name, But I think the deeper we get into this I think it'll be a pretty consensus opinion that Dalvin Cook is a more well, more well rounded back. I don't have I think shoulder thing though they start figuring on that. No, definitely, But and so I don't have a problem with anybody that thinks Dalvin Cook's a better player than Leonard Fournette. But I don't think that makes Leonard Fournette a bad player.

Which is that draft narrative that we get into. I mean, Leonard Fournett's going to be a top fifteen or twenty pick, I think. And the thing with Fournette is he's always been bigger, faster, stronger, so he's never had to really use nuance with his running style, right, so that just won't be the case in the NFL. Something you'll have to learn and adapt. We just we haven't seen a running back like Leonard Fournette coming to the NFL. I mean,

there just isn't a real logical comparison. They need the Alabama kids. You know, when you look at those Alabama kids at all won the hot you know, those Derrick Henry, I mean, yeah, I hate it's it's not fair because he I mean, and I'm he's not on that level. But he I mean, he has always reminded me of Adrian Peterson. Peterson was way better, way better. But that's that style of pound runner, right, just freaks, I mean guys, athletic freaks who can beat you with power or speed.

And I think Peterson was better coming out of college. I don't. I wouldn't try to convince anybody otherwise, but that's the natural comparison. That the closest comparison that I can make in terms of body type and athletic ability is Thomas Davis, the linebacker for the Panthers. That's what kind of freak that Leonard Fournette. But in terms of a running back, I just I cannot find that you know,

Apple's apples comparison, I don't. I don't think we have one, and that that will be something that has talked about in war rooms when Fournette is mentioned. You've got Solomon Thomas listed as a defensive lineman. Do you have a spot for him? To me, he's a left end who you move him inside on on passing downs? All Right, we talked about Peppers being a guy that you know you have to have a plan for him before you draft him. Thomas is the opposite. I don't need a

plan get him on my team. I'll figure out how to get He's incredible, his initial quickness, his ability to use his hands. I mean that North Carolina that tape is ridiculous against Notre Dame, same type of thing. I think he's gonna do really well to combine Test off the charts. Salomon Thomas number five on my initial board. I think he ends up somewhere in that top ten. Some team in that top ten is gonna get a really good player, Marshawn Lattimore over Test Tabor. That's gonna

be ye. That's the two cornerbacks in this draft. That's why you were watching tape on him this morning. I'm Lattimore. Which one Latimore were you and I? And I thought Tabor was. I thought Tabor was my number one guy at that corner until until I watched Lattimore. You and I were watching Conley Gary on the other Ohio State corner right last week, and I couldn't take my eyes off number two. Yeah, you know a guy that I

think very highly of. But even when I'm trying to watch Conley, I'm watching Lattimore just because he's such a special athlete. He's twitchy. Uh, you just don't see separation between him and the receiver. And when there is separation, he was able to make that up before the ball arrived. Knock it down, get the interception. The biggest issue with him is he missed his first two years due to hamstring issues. Right, is there a long term thing going

on there? That's something I mean, howboy fans know all about that, right, So it's something that will be fleshed out throughout the process, the combine and the medicals. But based on tape, Marshawn Lattimore my number one corner in a top ten pick, Derek Barnett is listed as your first defensive end at fifteen. What to do well, not my first defensive end, but yeah, I'm sorry as far as I'm not my bad. I was thinking of those

top guys. Maybe the guy that that next level guy, Derek Barnett is gonna be very There's me a lot of discussions about him because he's not naturally explosive. He saw left end, Yeah, he's didn't see a wright ending right, A powerful very good against the run. I mean, this is a guy that broke Reggier White's school Sack record of Tennessee. Yeah, the production Tennessee's had tremendous rushers ut history. Yeah, you can't take away the production he had. But Derek Barnett,

what do you do with him? I'll tell you what he I was watching the Alabama game and he blew by Cam Robertson like he was standing there. I mean, and I'm thinking, wait a minute, I think this guy's a left end, and he goes blow and buy him right there. The reason I laughed is and I get frustrated with you, so I can only imagine our listeners because everybody's a left end. I just want to write end like I'm trying to find a right in. I know,

but there's so many. But but he talks about okay, talk about the traits that make a great right end, initial quickness. I know they're hard to find. I did he say the guy was not? I know, I know that they're hard to find. But just everybody, everybody say it's a left end or a three technique right, Yeah, exactly, they need to. Tim Williams to me, is a is a right end? Kinley? Yeah, Tach McKay, that's those are right ends. Tim Williams is three to four stand up guy.

That's how that's what he can put his hand on the ground. Man, he comes screaming off the edge, off the stuff, off the field problems. He'll be just let my guy know what, Spence, that's probably what's gonna happen. You love him, I love him. And then he's gonna go east and then and then you know, and then the second round, everybody's gonna yell at me because man, they got value for that guy. I'm like, yeah, but

it's gonna be something Bad's gonna happen. Randy Gregory. I mean, it could be a similar situation where Randy greg no one, no one's gonna want to stomach that. You say, Randy Gregory and Tim Williams are gonna go Brian shut up. We want boy scouts, Well, you want players players? The ultimate dilemma? Any other surprises on this top fifty? We ask you about Pat Mahomes at fifty. Oh yeah, Texas Tech. Oh let's do it. Just what this guy's raw as sushi? All right? He is so raw is how about that?

Have you watched him as a guy. He's playing backyard football out there. I mean there's just there's no rhyme or reason that would he would you be surprised if he was picked in the first round. I saw him mocked in the first round. Would the other day twenty ninth? I don't know how he just he's not going to play as a rookie and I'm not sure he can

play as a second year guy in the NFL. Do you like him better than Dak Prescott coming out of Mississippi State, Well, they're very different because when you know Dak, he was established, you know what you're You felt like you knew what you're getting, even though we were wrong with Dak Prescott. Where Mahomes, he's so raw, there's so much you're drafting him for upside. I haven't watched tape of Pat Mahomes, but I've seen him play enough games to say, like, how do you even evaluate him? Every

single play is just can't evaluate him? Throwing the football, great, He's got an he's got a great arm after a great arm after he did think did you think that these coaches could do what they did with Dak Prescott? It's it was impres I didn't think any coaches could. Okay, but Dak Prescott was taking the snap from shotgun, standing in a pocket and throwing the ball in the sec He freaking big twelve doesn't play defense. I would I and I'm just Oklahoma. We were talking about Oklahoma guys.

I would bet that half of Pat Mahome, sixty percent of Pat mahomes throws have come from outside the pocket. It's yeah, like watch Pat mechanics. Skinny on Pat Mohome. Judge it, mccannic, he has zero mccannics. Well, this is a guy who played baseball most of his life. He was a basic, his dad was in yeah, yeah years. He has that pedigree. He's never worked with the quarterback coach. He's never you know, shot it out there book. Well, no, it's just he's never really put the time in to be,

you know, a full time quarterback. Here's always been baseball, always been basketball. So you know, and this is a true junior that's coming out. This isn't a red shirt senior. This is a guy who played in Texas Tech System who has never produced a quality NFL quarterbacker. Am I wrong? I mean that Texas Tech System. I mean Adam Harrold kicked around for a while, but oh no, I understand what you're saying. I mean that system does not produce

NFL quality quarterbacks. This guy is different. He's I mean, I obviously I put him at number fifty. Yeah, look that you think something of it. Baker Field turns out well, that counts as he was there for a year. But they didn't want him, right, I mean, that's why he transferred. So with Mahomes where he could be three years from now, was why you draft him and the trades the same thing about Prescott. I'm just asking, no, I don't and

like I'm not trying to sit here. No, No, I'm just saying of a guy that i'm sounding, I'm saying no because I did not think Dak would be a Rookie of the Year, NFL MVP contender as a rookie. I did not think. I think I think a day through the draft, if you go back and listen, there were some very positive things said about Dak Prescott there and there were and I think there was a foundation there to say, Okay, this guy's got some stuff to work on. He played out of the shotgun his whole career.

He's not he hasn't played NFL style football, but like he played quarterback though, and Pat Mahomes obviously plays quarterback, but it's just it's insane, Like watching him play is not any It's not even the same planet as what NFL quarterback Mahomes or Jacoby Brissett. I mean, I'll I'll take a chance on the upside. Homes. Mahomes has higher upside, but Brissett's more ready to play or was more ready to play quarterback right away. It depends what you want.

If you're looking for a guy that could be a number two for you as a rookie, then that's Brissette. If you're looking for a guy that you can stash and not have to worry about, this guy you weren't gonna have to play him. Hey, but now the Cowboys are in a fun like it's fun to think how much things have changed for this team because now, like this time last year, we're like, we gotta find the guy. We got to find the guy. But now you're like, well, we have our quarterback. We were set for a decade.

Let's draft this dude and see what the hell he does over the next Mahomes to me is Johnny Manziel, except he's clean off the field. He's bigger, and he has a better arm. So that's why I have at number fifty. But that's also why I don't want to see him for at least a year and a half in the NFL. Bas Dane's basically saying, I don't know how the hell this is gonna work, but there's always there to make me injury. He just gave you a name. On the first day of the draft show, Kit, do

we have a time for one call? We do, and it's all the way around the world. Reggie in Germany. Oh, Reggie, welcome to the Draft show. We're all doing great. You've got the last word. What do you got man? Okay, really quickly, thank you. Swing around. I'm gonna give you guys a real right defensive end. Okay, I'm gonna go home on you on my alma modes, say, what do you think about Harold Landry? Harold Landry from Boston College. He's actually not in this draft. He a junior, decided

to go back to school. So he's a very good player. But we'll be talking about next year. You're there, Reggie, I'm sorry, Yeah, he did you hear? Oh? As we got one more Kent. Maybe we don't that's it. That's it. Reggie on he was all the way around the world. I'm sorry to mean this week. Hope Carold Danger is a very good player junior, but we'll be talking about next year. A senior decided to go back for our

junior decided to go back for a senior season. I think a solid portion of the Cowboys fan base isn't ready for this yet. They're still licking their wounds from Sunday, but they'll come around, all right, real quick. Knit Before we get out of here, tell everybody how they can get this podcast and stuff like that. Where we go to iTunes, search the Draft Show, subscribe there. It'll also be available on Dallas Cowboys dot com, and the audio and video sections of the Draft Show also on Periscope.

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