Draft Show: 2016 Review & Who To Watch For

Boys guy. Dave Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Hello, welcome back, David. We just stop and consider the fact that we're doing a draft show. Yeah, week seven, by way, I think it's awesome. It's amazing. I think it is awesome. There are some teams that like, don't didn't have a podcast about the season, let alone do it an offseason draft podcast. Well, this just shows you how much does people care about the NFL draft. Dane Burglar from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com one of the best

young draft minds in the nation. Loving these digs. How about that huh just down the road from you, right? Yeah? Great? To see you guys in Frisco, and I'll tell you why this is a pretty impressive place. I'll also joined here by no other than one oh five three Zone Jeff Kavanaugh. Yeah, a man who I look to argue with every day about players. He comes up and watches studies. Nice to have you here. Jeffrey Brian likes to cheat, cheat anytime he's losing. He points at a super Bowl

football and says, hey, what about it? Yeah, twenty year old super Bowl football. Yeah, you know it's okay. It's the ring. That's all that matters. You do have the Draft show. KNT Garrison, executive producer, with us today as always, can't thank you for putting all this together. You guys. Good to be back. Yes, I want to get into this right off the bat. And when we start talking about the draft, it looks like that through six weeks of this NFL season, and we are a Dallas cowboy

based show, but we like to talk about everything. We'd like to tell you how. We like to investigate and educate, so we're going to do both today. But I want to focus in on six weeks through this season, and let's all harken back to those three days that we were sitting at the Old Valley Ranch talking about this draft and talking about what direction this football team might be going, and talk about though how we all thought differently.

You know, we had an idea about some of these players. Well, I think most of the players, but the ones that the Cowboys I want to focus as we start this show, I want to focus on the ones that the Cowboys selected. And I want to go back, like I said, and talk about to the thoughts that we had and now what you know, and it's a six game sample, you know it is. I mean, we're not going to sit there an act like that. You know, like Bill ourselves would say, you know, get the jackets out, get the

yellow jackets out. Yet you know, Kent, well, let's let's talk about these kids. Let's talk about what these kids have done for this football team and how they've and how they've used them. And I think you have to, of course start and I don't know, I mean you could start starting. I was gonna start with Ezeki Elliott, but then you can kind of talk about, Hey, what about Dak Prescott, what was he able to do? Yeah, and let's talk about what we thought. I'll go ahead,

and I'll start with I'll go with Elliott. I think you have to start. Yeah, Okay, when we were when we were talking about Ezeki Elliott, are we seeing are we seeing the things, the traits, the characteristics of a player that we saw there at Ohio State that some of us, some of us thought, you know, hey would

be worthy of the top four pick. Some people said hey, maybe defense and maybe not everybody in this room, but there was a lot of discussion about that was the fourth overall player worth it to take at running back? And has he changed your mind about that? I'm gonna Dan, you're the tape watcher. I always try to defer to you, but just think back when when did we first start talking about Zeke? Like probably February, like really as a serious Yeah, And from February on we talked about what

Zeke could do. Everything he was good at. He's the most complete player with the fewest amount of weaknesses in that draft, the fewest amount of question marks. We're wrong about a lot of stuff, and we're gonna get into some stuff that we were wrong about, but I'll get to that. Oh, yeah, you have watched what we said about this guy play out in blueprint fashion. It has looked exactly like your wildest hopes could have looked. In

my opinion, there were hiccups the New York game. It wasn't a great start for him, but over this five game winning streak, he has looked every bit the beast that we thought he would be when they took him in the Jeff Kavanaugh complete back. Oh yeah, yeah, I think we knew that and I was probably I was on team. I wouldn't have taken running back at four. I think you wouldn't have taken a running back. I didn't want to. I didn't want to throw you two

under the bus. I remember the conversation, why why why would you not want to? Now what's different? Now, go ahead and throw people as what we do. That's fine, I mean, I wait, I just want to make sure that we remember where we were at on this journey. Yeah. No, and you know what, he's been great. He's absolutely been worth it. Uh, that wasn't They had picks where I looked at it and I was like, man that I don't think that was a good pick. And Zeke wasn't.

Zeke Yes, second round, Zeke wasn't want to on that second round fourth round. But ze Zeke wasn't one of those. It was just one of those where I was like, the first clarify of that statement, I'm sorry the first one. Okay, ye, that later Confederatory right story pick was great, No, but with Zeke like it. It was one of those things where they picked him and I said, I get it. I get you want to maximize what your line does.

You just you want to dominate. I get it. I would have been a Jalen Ramsey guy at this point. Would I flip it? It's tempting watching what Zeke's gonna Dez isn't crazy. Zeke might go for two thousand yards. I think he will, honestly, unless he gets hurt. And you know, watching him block, watching him, it's things that

we knew he could do. But to watch him actually put it on the field and being over five yard per carry back and to be that well around him, to be the focal point of a five and one team,

it's pretty darn impressive. And I was with Jeff at first, and I think as we went along and the thought of Zeke behind this offensive line, the thought of Zeke with this offense, of what he could do, you know, the thought of that just you became more okay with taking running back top five because absolutely I was just thinking the same way. The value is the value there, especially with this teams their needs on defense. Different directions.

They could go, you're gonna really gonna take a running back? Not your biggest need. You could argue running back wasn't their top five needs. Are you really gonna take a running back top five? But as we went along closer we got to April in the draft, I was on board, and you know, it's looking like a heck of a pick. You could look at it now to get to ahead of ourselves with Dac Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott. You can make the argument they got two of the top five

players in this draft. So if you're okay, now that's the thought, well, you go ahead ahead, you got something. I'm just and there was a good case to be made for Jalen Ramsey by the time we got to draft week. We had a good idea it would be one of those two guys, and we know that was the other guy they were thinking about sitting there at number four. Jalen Ramsey's been pretty good, has he not. He's been a good well eighteen tackles. Yeah, he is.

He a difference maker and what between whether this team is five and one or not doing as well in Jalen Ramsey while he's playing well, I don't think you're seeing that reflected in the win loss record exactly. Where with Ze exactly. I think you were absolutely right when you said he had the fewest weaknesses, and I think you know he is the complete complete back. It's just tough to find holes in his game from running, the blocking and receiving. It's all there. And hey, somebody said

this the other day. I'm one of the coaches. You know. You can have a decision, work out, or you can do something, and just because you were wrong doesn't mean it was the right call, or just because you're right doesn't mean it's the right call. I'm what I'm trying to say is doing a bad job or calculating it. I still don't most confusing. It was confusing. I apologize,

Let me try again. I still don't think it's a great call to take a running back in the top five, just in terms of black and white draft logic, in terms of what you're getting in value bank for your buck, I still don't think that's that smart of a call. There's gonna be there's gonna be a line of them coming up this draft. Well, but do you think things are gonna change now in people's mind out thing. I

still don't think it's a great call. But for this team with these needs, with this personnel on hand, it were and the players that were available, you know, best pass rushers off the board, not a whole lot of great pass rushers available, things like that, it worked out perfectly for them. And I wonder how that changes people's attitudes going forward, because, like I said, I still have the same attitude about drafting and running back high as

I did then. It just worked out perfectly for this club, and it'll be interesting. I think you alluded to it with this draft class. Yeah, and that might be a reason not to take a running back early because it is so stacked or it will be as soon as all these underclassmen. I mean, there might be ten to fifteen underclassmen running backs who have a chance to be drafted in the top two two and a half rounds. And that's how loaded this running back class could be.

So if you have a chance to get one of those guys, why are you wasting the top ten pick where you know, I don't think there's a Zeke in this draft. I really don't. Okay, that's what I was gonna ask you. That was gonna be my question about running back and and and we'll make this quick if is there a running back that is similar to him? And would you or there running backs that are better? I mean, Jeffrey, you watch a lot of the college

football stuff. I mean, we haven't got into our total film study, but is there is there a running back? I mean, is the kid at Florida State? Is he? You know? I mean, is he He's the top back? I think what makes it different with Zeke? And we talked about this, compared Zeke to any class who want to compare him too. It's just it's the well roundedness. Like you can find guys that can run. Leonard Fournette can run, Dalvin Cook can run. There's guys that can

run that are gonna be coming out. Dalvin Cook can pass. Pro he ate Zeke. No, he can catch, but Leonard Fournette He's not going to catch the ball like Zeke. Zeke is a really special sort of package because you're not talking about a power back but he's powerful. We're not talking about a quickness, shifty back, but he's shifting. Will people use the argument then that whoa wait a minute, this guy is Cowboys had some success. Our team's gonna fall on a trap with that, and they'll be able

to block. That's dependent. That plays into my point is that it worked out amazingly for the Cowboys to draft Zeke. But if if somebody takes Dalvin Cook in the top ten and they don't have the personnel around him to make him successful, it's not gonna work out. Hodd Girle's doing nothing in Saint Louis right now in Los Angeles. That's a good point. That can't block I don't see at this point. Sorry Saint Louis. I don't see an offensive line though, isn't it really Yeah, Yeah, that's what

I mean. That's why it's tough to take a running back that high because he's dependent. Zeke's not doing this if you don't have those five guys up front. No, but doing He's also leading the league and yards out of contact, so he is, you know, showing how special he is. And I really don't think we're gonna have a running back in this upcoming class that will have as high of a grade as Zeke or Gurley the last two years. So you know, will we see four

net or Dalvin Coco top ten? It definitely possible, depending on how the draft order plays out. But in terms of overall draft grade and impact, I don't think we're any of these guys are gonna be on the same level as Zeke or Girly for that matter. I just think it was it was a perfect storm that this guy was the right guy to take it for and

it and credit to the Cowboys they recognize that. Again, I don't think it's great draft strategy to take a running back that high, but they knew in this situation with the team they have on hand that it would work out great. Gonna move past pick two thirty four, which is Jalen Smith. Gonna move past that one. You don't want to talk about, Well, no, you don't want to talk about Jalen. Well, I'll tell you what it affects what they do in this next draft, if in

fact all depends. I just feel like though that we understand where he's at. That was a medical risk that they took. On draft day, we all talked about him. You know, hey, hopefully for them. I mean, this class could be incredible if Jaylen Smith in fact gets healthy and plays to even the level that we've seen him play. And I mean that would be they stole one there if that's but I think that's talk for another day.

We all, I think everybody had their say. I will say this is that I was thinking about this when we were preparing to do this show. Depending on Jalen Smith, linebacker is either one of your biggest needs or your biggest strong points going into the next draft. Yeah, they need to figure that out before the draft rules are out. And honestly, yeah, I'll move on from that because I think everybody's pretty much documented what they thought. I mean, there might be some folks new for the draft show.

I was not a fan of the pick myself. You can go back and listen to hours and hours. Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was a very questionable pick. But the fact that the owner is the general manager, he can make that call. Brian brought us sit in Tampa Bay with his you know, think about how he's gonna pay for his lake house for retirement. Can't make that call one to be fair, you know, the rule of thumb is three years out before we truly judge these rookies, right, so you know we'll get

talking about yeah, yeah, exactly. It's we're just here talking about these players. It's never too early with the skill sets that we've seen. But with Smith, you know, just wait and see. It's totally what to wait and see. Is MALIEK. Collins? He would be your pick three sixty seven. Talk about what you see. MALIEK. Collins a starter? Now playing is a playing? Is the one plays the three? Do you felt like, you know, he's a guy that

has come in has given him a little bit. Like I said, you know, he's I remember him at Nebraska being really good in the twist game, active high school wrestler. What about MALIEK. Collins? So, Jeff, you followed football team every day. I think MALIEK. Collins fits in with sort of a theme of this football team, which is Tony Romo makes a lot of money and you haven't. He hasn't really helped you this year where you're going. Des Bryant makes a lot of money, he's been hurt. Tyrone

Crawford makes a lot of money. Other people who've been getting a lot of his snaps, he's been getting moved around. This team has done a great job of getting guys that aren't making a bunch of money that are making a lot of plays for the football team, I think, and I think the defensive tackle group is at the very, very very top of it. Joe McClain and MALIEK. Collins, Like, that's your best combination at defensive tackle. Once a third round rookie that was hurt in camp. One's a guy

who's never been healthy. Yeah, and those two guys, I mean, and they're doing better than a four year, seventeen million dollar free agent and a five year, forty five million dollar extension. Yeah. And you know, but you look around the league and sometimes the deals you signed turn out great. Sometimes they don't. But I do think it's a credit to finding the guys that don't make a lot that are making your football team be five and one, And MALIEK.

Collins is one of them. Just for point of reference, on the Dallas Cowboy draft board, MALIEK. Collins was their number one player in the top of the third round. So where they took him at three sixty seven, that would be right, that's they they're falling their board right there. That's the He was the number one player on their board in the third round, and he fits Rod Bernelli to a team he does. Okay, where where'd you have him? Did you thought I think we had him? I think, Jeff,

do we I've got the board hole. I think we had him in the third round? Our guy. Yeah, I had him late third round, So I thought sixty seven was a little early for him and not a rich not a huge reach at all by any means. Right, you know, I thought there were better players on the board. But you know, I think he's played okay to this point, Jeff, do you have that in front of Yeah? Third, third round? Okay,

here's the next one. I want to talk about defensive end at four one oh one, that'd be Charles Tapper. For point of reference, though, they had him as the their sixth best player on the on the board in the fourth round. And actually they're gonna get to a player that they had higher than him. But we'll get to that guy here in a little bit later. What

about on defense? Where was he on defense? He would be They had Jones, Cyrus Jones, Drake was on I'm sorry, Yeah, they had Jones Drake Connor McGovern, Farrell Cooper Farrell Cooper receiver, and then Anthony Brown and Charles Tapper. Okay, so hey they still they still had third rounders available at that point. That was the question. Ronald Blair, Right, Ronald Blair was

a guy. And see that's what's amazing to me is when you look, I mean you look at Ronald Blair was on the board and that surprised me with that was the pick that I went hmmm M And then all of son, I see, oh wait, Ronald Blair was on the board and they have him in the third round. And you're sitting there going, wait a minute, how well who why did they jump? Why did they jump Ronald Blair with Charles Tapper? Maybe they thought Blair was an inside guy and they thought they'd kind of address that

third round on the board. Yeah, but either way, like Ronald Blair was a defensive they had they had a MALIEK. Collins as a defensive tackle all the way, right, But what did they see Blair as a defensive end? Okay, then, I mean I thought he was a better player anyway, Now that I agree, the Tapper thing is not it's really it's not like it's anybody's fault. It's a medical thing that everyone missed at the combine. Because that's a surprising thing that they cannot. They cannot MRI every single

player combine. That's that's the problem. I thought that was the whole point of the combine. Oh, they cannot if you haven't existing injury. The whole point of the combine is that you're supposed to get checked out. That's why they do it across the street from a hospital. I mean, that is the main reason it is in Indianapolis, because they do have the medical equipment to do as many guys as they do, but obviously all three hundred and

thirty can't get the same evaluation. Yeah, and so for a guy like Tapper, who he didn't miss a game in the last three years at Oklahoma. So right, like, why would you get an MRI if you don't think any Right? I mean, these in these colleges with all the with the hippo laws and all that, they're not give any information like they did in nineteen ninety two when I went rolling through schools. They're not very they're not three play did you play it fast and loose

a little bit? Right? When you went to the school, like, hey, come on tell him, Oh no, absolutely, school visits used to be really really cool. Now it's kind of like, hey, we ain't telling you crap down. So with with Tapper, though, I do think that is a way thing we see. Yes, it's a waiting stage, and that's disappointing in my In my mind, it is a little disappointing. And again, I know he has the precondition all that stuff, but they

sure could use a defensive end in this rotation. It may be a little bit unfair to do this because he's been hurt and it's not about his play. But I felt like when they picked Tapper, I've seen this pick before. You picked Ryan Russell. Yeah, the guy who was in a three four that you looked at him and you're like, man, he measures well and I think he could be a good four three end And so for me, I didn't think they picked the best player there.

I think it was one of those things where the Cowboys will do this project, get a guy they'll get two rounds later and be like, man, where could there be a home run? Instead of picking the best player, Ronald Blair was a better football player, which Charles Tapper had a great forty time and it's like, man, what could he do coming off the edge. Maybe he'll do something great And one on one feels way too early for me to be doing stuff like that. What did

you think about Tapper? I'm trying to remember. I liked him. He was in my top one hundred. I think he was like number ninety six, ninety So you're okay with the pick when it happened, I was. Again, durability was not a question with Charles Tapper. You know again he was playing a little bit out of position in at Oklahoma. He was in that frog stance two gap didn't really it didn't fit into four three like that defensive end

with a quick all. The thing was, I think that's forty times in the four five four five was right. He was really good. He was misused at Oklahoma, and so Cowboys saw that and said, okay, he can you know, he can play end for us, but we just haven't had a chance to see it yet. Pick four one thirty five. Here's the kicker right here, boys, we got we drafted a kicker, Daig one big. This is this is why, this is the thing right here that will get you a contract extension. If you can pull this

one off. Yeah, Dak Prescott, credit to this organization. Oh here we go, rain, but there you go. Raise your hand if at the time you said, great pick, Dak Prescott was the number quarterback number what can everybody? No, no said, Let me let me tell you what they had Jeff Driscoll ahead of Dak Prescy. Jacoby Brissette. Jacoby Brissette was a third round player on their board. Connor Cook. Connor Cook was a second round player. Lynch wins golf,

of course, so exactly. And so if say the Raiders don't trade up to pick one hundred sick one on one, can we go back to that? It's probably the draft gods smiled on past Happer was gonna be Connor Cook, who none of us liked. Right right in the fourth round we were I think we're okay with it, but I would have I would have jumped out the window if they drafted I think Cook ahead of Yes, Scott did on our board. Yes we did in the fourth round. Yes, but we had Connor Cook in the fourth round. Yes,

all right, Can I admit it? It's okay? It hurts, you know, you get over the pain, you deliver the baby like everybody was wrong on Dak Prescott. I don't think you guys everybody. I think you guys are misremembering. Honestly, I think you guys deserved to give yourself a little bit more crap. Obviously, nobody we talked about him in mock drafts and some of those mock drafts we did. We did, and I'm not but I didn't pick. We didn't hate. We just didn't see this coming. No, I'm nobody.

That's what I'm saying was coming when you watch draft great. Oh yeah, Dak Prescott. He impressed me so much with his poise, his leadership, the way your Bowl was a good good we were all there for the Senior Bowl and all this. He is a perfect example of not everybody's a great practice player. Oh I say that all the time, don't David. He's a perfect example that because it maybe Jim Anyway immobile. Dak Prescott was the third best quarterback there that he saw that week. Cody Kessler

looked like you shouldn't have been. Yeah, Burston Wentz was the best quarterback we saw down there. Jack Prescott. He won the game MVP, but during the week of practice, good in the in the game. I remember the EJ. Manuel once won the game, MVP and the Senior Bowl. So right, Dane, don't get a wet blanket. Guys, I'm just saying back to my original point about practice. You know, not everyone's even in training camp. Dak Prescott didn't like

the world. I wholly agree with you on that. He was not good at camp until until the game started happening, the Rams game being the first, but those right after Kellamore got hurt. He actually I forgot about this until um Pete Thamil wrote the Sports illustrative feature on him. That was a gentleman that was here asking us, and

it was a good story. If you haven't read it, Yeah, he dropped his first snap as the starter when you know where you know, after Kellamore got hurt, he dropped the ball and everyone I remember watching it and being like, oh boy, we're in for a long year. There were days before I got to camp where Pete we're telling it brought us would call in or we talked to

other people who were at camp would say. It would go back and forth like hey, who had the better day, Jamil Showers or Dak Prescott when the answer was different each day. It took the guy six seconds to get the ball out more often than not. I'll tell you what though. Scouts will admit this too. The coaches pushed for Prescott. Oh yeah, scouts thought they had Prescott and Jamil Showers. But here's here's the funny thing. And nobody, the coaches some credit on this one. Nobody could have

ever produced at one thirty five. That's the crazy thing is I remember while was sitting in that studio on draft day, we were like, you gotta this quarterback at one thirty five. That's an insane value. Nobody saw this coming, but that was a great pick. Before he let the one, I think we were surprised that he didn't go one on one. Yeah, I think because we knew we were speculating about it. When Tapper came off the board, we were like, well, we know they just wanted Cook, they

want that quarterback. Yeah we mocked him one on one. Yeah, we mocked him one one. No other team did more work on a player, there's no doubt about and the Cowboys on Dak Prescott, all the visits, all the meetings, I mean, and it's easy. I think it's easy for coaches to fall in love with the player like this. I mean, you talk about the poisy intelligence. What he's done in the SEC is outstanding. The resumes there. But going back to his tape study, I mean, Jeff and

I were talking about this earlier. Did we really miss hint on him when the tape didn't show this? I mean, you watch him, can't make you? Yeah, you see, you gotta stay with your eyes. You gotta what you see. Watch him against Alabama against LSU. I think those remember well, But maybe about the game in Startville last year. Is a senior l won that game? Yeah, Dak Prescott could not he he had a few mistakes down the stretch that cost them that game, including a play clock air.

If I remember correctly. Against Alabama, he was fifty percent completions. Alabama is the closest thing in college that you're going to see doing And so you know, I know, Dad, he had a great career in Misissippi States said all types of records. He's very productive. The completion percentage went up every single year. I didn't see the ball placement on film that we're seeing now, and that to me

blows my mind. Okay, we saw the poys, we saw the leadership, we saw the athleticism, the strong arm, the ball placement is near pinpoint. And for a quarterback to take that jump from college even in the SEC, to the NFL and improve their accuracy like Dak is doing, it's just it's unbelievable. And you know what, Sorry, but you know what I've thought about during the lead up to this is and obviously there's no real workaround for this in the NFL. You gotta get your guys snaps.

But how much does just getting to practice mean for these guys? You know? I mean, sure Dak would have gotten what like two snaps per practice if things had played out the way they were supposed to. There's no telling how far behind he might be things worked out. You give a guy thirty snaps a day to get better over the course of a month, I mean that can pay dividends. Yeah, I just I'm amazed though the

journey for this guy. Let me ask you this real quick though, before we leave from Dak Prescott, if you had to redraft, as I'm about to ask you, Yeah, if you had to redraft, could you from just from six games? Okay, this is a terrible thing to do. I get it, but we're just having fun on the draft show. Can you put him in the conversation with the top three quarterbacks that were on the board, you have to how do you not? I mean, all right? And then who is he better than? Yeah? I mean

Lynch was my guy. Well, my guy's not fair. Guys, he hasn't gotten to play the guy. He's not fair. He's the second quarterback off the board. Do you think he goes Wins. I think he probably still goes behind Wentz. I think at the Cowboys, the Cowboys had Wins is their number one quarterback, knowing what they knew now, I wonder if they would trade the opportunity to pick Wins over Prescott, knowing what they know right now, ask him,

pretend to ask him, and then tell us. You get to if the way they have it right now, they didn't give up anything to get these guys, right, why don't you just stay with what you No, no no, no, no, I'm just saying, if if you, if you said, okay right now, you could trade your number one quarterback for the quarterback you currently have. I don't think they would do that, and I think the coaches would not allow it to happen. Yeah, I think they love this quarterback

so much. Wow. Not only that, I think his demeanor plus I mean not that it's a huge part of their game, but the read option stuff that he can do with Zeke every single I think he's perfect. And that's another thing. He's just so perfectly. Seventh best player on their board. Everything they're trying to do. Credit to Lynahan and the offensive staff well overall and with oh wins, yeah, wins win and the seventh best player on their board. Golf was top tennis, right, Golf was not. He was

top fifteen, number seven. No, he's I take that back, I'm sorry. Floyd was eight, Golf was nine. Okay, So yeah they were. They were still high on golf their number two quarterback not too far from Wentz. And I had both Wentz and Golf as top ten players on my overall board as well. So you know, if if we had a red draft today, Prescott, I think he's going top five. And it's just a matter of do

you take Wins you take Prescott. You remember the lead up to the draft when we talk about quarterbacks are different. You have to evaluate them differently. You have to term in their worth. Differently, Dak could theoretically flame out Kaepernick style and just not be the same player three years

from now as he is right now. But based on what you six games we're talking, based on what you've seen, I think you have to roll with the chance that he's going to keep it going because that's how important a good quarterback is. You. I mean, if if this was possible where you could redraft and that was a real thing, I think you have to take the chance that this guy's going to be a beast because it would mean that much if he is. So you're saying he has a first round grade, then sure, no, I

think I think you have to. And the final line on my Dak Prescott report was has the traits to secure a backup job in the NFL capable of spot starts. Yea, And I mean that's you're honest. You're an honest man. If you were the only one, I might make fun of you. But I think that was a pretty fine notes here say that I would probably take him in the first and I bet he wins five of his

first Whoever takes him is getting a gym. There you go, all right, no pick in the fifth that goes to Oakland, no pick in the six that goes to Kansas City through San Francisco. Sixth round pick were one eighty nine Anthony Brown, cornerback Perdue. Damn. I got yelled at when this pick happened. I was broadcasting on one to five three and you and Kat were pumped. The pick came in and we were celebrating. Instead of letting somebody get the clean read of in the sixth round they select that.

We were just like yes, because that was a guy that we really liked when we watched him. Anthony Brown at Purdue was I thought he put really good tape together. Third round grade. Yeah, you had him as a third round grade. It's not that he never got beat. It's that you had a guy there that you watched him play z own, You watched him play man. You watched the guy that knew what he was doing when the ball was in the air. He knew how to play

a football. He was physical, he could make open field tackles. I thought everything about him led to getting picked on the second day of the draft, and so to get him in the sixth round, we thought that was great value. When it happened, oh, yeah, sixth round, right, got one? Yeah, one right, Yeah. I think we all agreed on him. He was a terrific value. I mean terrific player, but the value just well, the boundary. He played boundary corner

at Perdue. I'll remember that. Play boundary corner. You usually used the sideline to help you cover. I would have never thought a boundary corner could be really good in the slot. But he's really good in the slot and running to four three helps three three athlete and he is and he's I'll tell you what though. He What he is that Scandrick's not is he is a tackler. Now. I don't know if he could cover as well as Scandrick.

I don't think you can do that. But when you start playing dime here coming up real soon again, when Scanner gets down in the field, put Scandrick one slot him and the other you can play. You can take JJ Wilcox off the field. Now you get your pretty goottle dime pack. That's what you loved about Brown? What was his physicality and night That's also what you kind of didn't like about him, because he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar a little bit much

in coverage, but a very physical guy. And with those dimensions five eleven four three three athlete, good arm length, that's a perfect player to take it in that point the drift. He's got a bandage on his head right now after this Green Bay game. I gotta assume it's got something to do with making ten tackles. Yeah, he's not afraid to stick his face hanging and heads out there. Okay,

we're gonna get ready, take a break. I'll just go through Cavon Frazier hasn't really done anything, but he's been active for a few games exactly. Darius Jackson the running back, maybe that's one of those ones you look at first twenty seventeen when we start talking about this running back situation. Rico Gathers was the pick at six round at two seventeen. Hearing really good things about him on the practice squad. A matter of fact, that they guaranteed his first year's salary.

So he's making first year rookie, mean, not the normal one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars that you can make. He's making like four fifty something, So yeah, that's a big deal. They guaranteed him a year a rookie year salary for his for his play, so you know on the practice squad or a touchdown at the little light rookie practice that they had here during the bye weekday. Yeah, and you know what, and that's so those are guys downline. So okay, well that's a review of the Cowboys draft.

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be a weekly thing every Friday. If you're new to the Draft Show, we do thank you for being a part of what we do and I hope we bring you the like I say, to educate you on what is all NFL draut Okay for before the break, I teased about the who was a player that you were very very high on that you're happy with and then give me a guy through six games or you know that you're kind of like, maybe I was a little

a little off on that one. In a tiny gym, I will give you the first crack at this all right, Well, considering how we started the draft show last year, if you remember, I know you two should remember how much I love Lakwan Treadwell, Yeah, I'm gonna let Jeff talk about him in more detail. But I just want everyone I'm well aware that he is not featuring that was that was a bad one on my part. Usually you don't like old miss people. I don't, but I love the and I mean it's six games in. I got

faith in my guy. But he but he yeah, he's off for a lot of guys. He's the one though, that you would probably be the most disheartened about, right Yeah, just in terms of the fact that he hasn't logged a stat as of yet. Yeah one, And I didn't love this guy, but I just we we got to throw it out there, I think. And I've talked about this on Twitter. Joey Bosa uh Dane's guy Joey Bosa. Uh, what's up, Brian? What was that about public in? I mean, why that's not I'm not trying to throw Brian under

the bus here. I just remember every week when we would come into this studio, it was the slam Joey Bosa and not coming from you, right, the listeners just it turned into get that guy away from me. I don't want him on art. Oh you, Dane did a nice job of defending Joey Bosa and I and I again and you I before people come at me. I went back and listened to these shows and I was never slamming the table trying to call this guy in all pro but I just eventually got fed up and

I was like, this is a good player. He is worthy of being a top ten pick. You guys need to calm down. And sure enough, after a very lengthy, annoying holdout, he goes out there and he's balling for San Diego. He looks every bit the type of player that you draft in the top five. So that's one. You know, I feel good for Joey Bosa that he's that he's delivering. Based on how much criticism he gets. Yeah, you know, I just went back and I talked to

some people in the front office. They had no intention of taking Joey Bosa. Oh for sure, I mean that, but that if people were looking, if you were a Joey Bosa fan out there of the draft show, and you light Joey Bosa and you believe and yeah, and maybe that's there. That's the what they'll have to wear. You talked about. Joey Bosa's played in two games. He's had five tackles, two sacks. So two games, two sacks. That's a pretty good percentage right there. But the Cowboys

had no intention of taking Joey Bosa. And because it came down, if it had come down to defensive players, it was Ramsey or Bosa would have been on the board. Ramsey was their second best player and Bosa was their fourth best. Part. It was interesting about their board. Laramie Tunsel was their third best player on their board. Yeah, that shows you, right, that's not window dressing right there.

For if you have a we're gonna take a billion dollar offensive line and you put Jay and you put Laramie Tunsel as your third best player, you're not window dressing your board. I don't think they take him, they'll turn that in. Yeah. But but but they have it, they have him on their board, so I mean, you know, there's that possible. There was a low chance that the first three picks we're going to be or the first you know, two of the first three picks we're going

to be Zeke and uh Ramsey. So they knew they were a good chance they were gonna get either of those two guys. Jeffrey Cavanall, Oh, man, I don't want to do it. This is through six games. Yeah, you can do it, though, but if anybody wants a piece of me, if anybody wants to tweet at JC one oh five three, if you want to take shots at my guy, that's fine because now is a good time to take shots at my guy. But twelve years from now, we're gonna look back and Jared Goff is going to

be really good in the NFL. But man, it's hard to uh, it's hard to be really excited about the guy that I said, this is my quarterback, this's my number one quarterback, and with all of the rookies that are playing and having some success, they're not even putting him on the field right now. So it's hard not to say Jared Goff is the game having at least at that point, they're having success with not playing him. Yeah, but still, but that's what I but I mean to see.

I mean, Paxton Lynch went in and had something. There's there's quarterback quarterbacks playing right now. Yeah, there's lots of them, and one of them couldn't be active at first, and

now he can't find the field. Even though case Keenum occasionally is having a good game, it's still you know, for somebody that I was banging the drum four through six games, it doesn't look good on his struggles in the preseason I think are a part of this as well, because even though he hasn't had a chance to prove himself, he struggled in the preseason. Um wasn't all bad. He had some good moments, but more bad than good, especially

for a number one overall pick. So he's a perfect example of why you know, we wait three years ideally to judge these guys. Because I still believe in Jared Goff, you know, I just like you, you know, we're not giving up on the evaluation yet. No, I still think he's gonna be a good draft show. We're just talking about it. But uh yeah, through six games, that's the one, that's the one that bothers you the most, right just right now? Wait, so yeah, I mean it's more than LaQuan.

Uh No, I would say LaQuan worries me more long term, Like I still think Jared Goff is gonna make it LaQuan. Here's the thing about were we so wrong about him? Because I'm looking at my top fifty and Laquon Treadwell's physical profile says bust. It says it if you if you follow the numbers, guys and you measure his athletic Yeah, it was sap and not look at the number. I know, and that's what I trusted too. But I like, I want to I want all of it. I want to

know everything I can. And we spent six months calling him baby Daz. Yeah that wasn't a bust. But the key was what Dane said about him was less explosive Dez. And it turns out if you're a little slower quite as good after the catch, maybe that's not enough. Like Dez isn't a guy that's gonna get six yards open on a route, and Treadwell looks like he is less than that and so so far it looks like it's trouble. And when scouting the receiver position, it comes down to

two main things. Can you get open and can you catch the ball? He can do the number two thing really well. Yeah, number one thing that I think he's gonna have some trouble with right now because he's not an above average route runner and so he's thrived on his physicality and his ball skills up to this point. He needs to refine his route running and you know, just really get better in that separation part getting open. So another guy that you know, we're not going to

give up on. But it's been a struggle for him so far. And it happens a lot of receivers that jump even from the SEC. It's tough, especially when you're facing more press coverage, guys that are on top of you twenty four seven. So yeah, disappointing start for him. Well for Bather and these two guys on this page right, well, that's the guy I'm gonna go too. Next is the guy on the bottom there. The guy that I think

we had him right was Sterling Shepherd. The only thing we had wrong was for the amount of praise we gave him. We talked about him like a first round player. The only stake we made was not going ahead and saying it like we had him right there at the top of two yea one. I know on our board we did. We had him the top of the second round. And when I went back, I'm thinking, oh, man, we had that guy in the first round because I know

so we had him over will Fuller. We did, and a lot of people, even on member on draft Day when they drafted will Fuller, I'm going, well, they you know they, you know, Houston, they've got it. There's a better guy up there, you know, hey. But will Fuller is doing his thing too. He's having a nice season. He's doing what we thought he will. Will Fuller's my guy. He's making big catch guys that I missed on. He's making big plays and twenty catches, three twenty seven yards,

two touchdown. Are you were you wrong? Though? Because I think and I'm not a Houston Texans expert, but it seems like he's doing the stuff we knew he could do. Right. It's not like he's playing a different sort of game. I mean, his hand and they're not great. He's fast, he can get open, which I think he's a body catcher. Yeah, exactly, And that's that's where I struggle with receivers that aren't

natural hands catchers. It really worries. I'm with you on that, and so it's it's a balance because he is an explosive athlete who can take the top off a defense good luck you know in man covers trying to keep hold of this guy. He can catch it and run it. But when he's unreliable catching the ball, that's where it really bothers me. And that's why I gave him a

second round grade because he's unreliable in that respect. He's not the he doesn't have a great build, so injuries I think are always going to be an issue for him. But so far he's proven that, hey, he was worth a first round pick because of the explosive plays, and those explosive plays make a big difference in a football game. And so far he's he's proved he's been worth a

first round pick. I think will Fuller that that's my guy as a guy who I didn't have as highly that maybe I should have because of that explosive plays. That aspect, it's a big deal. Well, I mean it's easier. I think it's easier, and I would still like the two guys were talking about their Sterling Shepherd versus Will Fuller, Like Sterling Shepherd is the prototype for doing things that make you comfortable with a wide receiver. Yea, I used

probably the best route runner in the class. Hands catches were easy. I mean the hands were great, the routes were great. He had. He's explosive enough to where like I trust that guy any down any day, to throw him any ball you want. I trust Sterling Shepherd. I don't trust will Fuller. I would still take Shepherd over him all day. But both of them have in their own way, done the things they excel at to help

their team. Yeah. That's that's well put. Yeah, yeah, I think just real quick, I just want to apologize to my LSU guy, Dion Jones too. I really I didn't have high hope. I thought he was like a career special team or type of linebacker. Yeah, Jalen Mills isn't playing bad in Philadelphia, but about Starred Robinson's starting both the two character guys with Mills, and we said Mills

only fell because of the character stuff. I couldn't believe he was seventh round picked by Philadelphia for Shard Robinson together tape in the last year and was clean off on the off the field. He'd have been a first round the league. Yeah, but Dion I thought, I mean, I was like, he's too small, He's a special team or type guy. He's starting in Atlanta. We got your two guys. The guy that I missed on Will Fuller.

Guy that I thought nailed was Cody white Hair. Yeah, he was my twenty third best player in this draft. He felt a nice job, but the Chicago Bears is a starting center. He fell all the way to fifty six. Yeah, I mean, I thought this guy was one of the top twenty five players in this draft, and I thought he was a Day one starter at either guard center. He was playing center for the Bears at a very high level. You can make an argument right now he's

one of the top five centers in the league. And I'm not surprised at all because we saw this on tape at Kansas State, and so for him to be doing this, I think he's doing exactly what I thought. My sky report said he would do well. And I know we already talked about him when we did the Cowboys part of this, but really number one on this whole list is Anthony Brown. Like, that's the guy that relative to where he was taken and what we thought

of him terms of value. Yeah right, I'm looking at my list and I'm my top fifty and I had Elliot Ezekiel Elliot as my second best player on my board. Smart smart man. Yeah, but I had Miles Jack number one. Hey hollooo, whoa whoa, whoa whoa Now time out? Now? No, no, no, no, they put him in. They told him learn a new position. We're getting you. Okay. No, No, I'm okay. I'm okay with my top two. But like I said, I'm happy the way that Elliot has worked out. I mean, my

notes were immediate impact, as tough as they come. That's just that's what I said about him. The guy, the guy I'm the mist most disappointed about. And I have a couple I'll tell you the guy I was I was really really wrong about. And I didn't have had him my top fifty, but I didn't have him high enough in my top fifty. And where did he go? Darren Lee? Remember you guys, I wasn't gonna I did not like Darren Lee at outside linebacker from Ohio State,

and you watch him play with the Jets. I think he's got twenty two tackles and a half a sack and something like that. But he is a much better player than I gave him credit. I didn't want to like him at all. But he the run hit factor and all that. Yeah, he run really fast, and you're like, you're sitting here and watching, like, when's he gonna get Himhen's he gonna make a play. When's he gonna make a play. He's always run around. When's gonna Well, he's

made twenty two tackles through six games. I mean, you know, there's something to him. I was really really wrong about him. You know, I should have had him probably higher. But Noah's Spence was my fifth best player on my board. Well a great Noah Spence and so you know, and I thought that he was the best pass rusher in the draft. I like this explosiveness off the edge. Yeah,

I think that to me. To me, Noah Spence is the one, and I hope it's not one when I wake up one day at this time next year as we get through the complete season, and I said, boy, I completely miss Noah's I completely missed that he's got a sack. Yeah, but he's only got eight other tackles too,

and they're trying to find a way. I mean, it's six games, I get, but I just I thought he would have an immediate pack if I thought he would come in and really help Tampa and be a player that Okay, now he's got you know, let me tell you the kid. Okay, Dane, tell me the kid's name. The kid from Maryland, Yannick and Goquay. We couldn't remember remember his name, Yannick and Gottwa jacks. Yeah, nine tackles, four sacks, having a nice rookie year. Yeah, that's a

fourth round that's a four sacks. That's a that's a fourth round pick right there. Fourth sacks. Nice. See, that's the numbers I was thinking that Noah Spence would have. Yeah, that's what I was thinking right there. Welcome to the draft. Yeah, I'm just looking at it fun. I'm just looking at our board that we put together. And just a random name that I think is at least worth mentioning is Taj Sharp. That's a guy that we that we liked,

and you watched him and it's like, man measurable. Uh, the NFL's looking at him like I don't know, but you watch him play and it's like that dude runs route, so that dude catches everything. He steps into Tennessee and he's essentially their number one receiver. Right. Yeah, they're struggling too. You know what I think is fun about this though,

and I thought about it back during the draft. It's you know, when you're picking twenty seventh and Byron Jews is your guy, Like, it's harder to predict, obviously, and it's harder to feel bad about these things. But when the Cowboys they were picking right at the top of the round every single every single time, and now we're talking about a lot of these guys were potential options, you know, and it just makes it, well, it makes

it more fun. It also makes it more painful when you think, like, well, they could have gone that rounde if they wanted to. Oakland took a kid, Corey James, outside linebacker from Colorado States. Team liked him. Yeah, twenty seven, he's got twenty seven tackles. He's the undersized kid. Whinny he Yeah, he was a pass rusher than they pass. They had him on the ground. He's three four four, three guys playing middle linebacker now for the Raiders. Yeah,

A big part of that is just necessity. They need someone to fill that hole. Yeah, but he's doing a nice job stepping up and playing. When Jordan Howard when Indiana? Yeah, when when is the NFL going to stop being all about measurables like receivers don't have to every six three linebackers don't have to be ever forty. It's just they don't ever get it's never gonna happen. They don't have to be the kid the little kid from bon Buchanan, the linebacker at Arizona that was a safety in college.

A little kid from Akron's playing well too, Tavis Brown, and that was one of the guys I wrote down. Yeah, yeah, well he's up for Rookie of the Week. This if you can play, Brill Peppers is a guy we're gonna be talking. Okay, now segue, thank you very much. The last ten minutes though, you know, let's talk about is I look at the Dallas Cowboys and and and you know, give me go around the room here, give me one team need for the Dallas Cowboys through six games, what

you've seen so far. If you think about twenty seventeen, outside pass rusher, defensive end way more than anything else, I would say, I mean need Jeff Corner. And this has to do with Yeah, car Mo, you don't know who's gonna be. You know you've got Anthony Brown, right, Dane, you watched this team. What about safety? I think this team they're gonna have to make some decisions With Bullcocks and Church. I think they're both their contracts are both

up at the end of the year. Yeah, Iron Jones, Yeah, exactly, what's gonna do there? But there's another safety spot here. Tight end maybe you know, think about with the age with wit and I know when you type tight end, everybody kind of cringes. I think you're I think you're dead right on tight end because that's the one spot left when you look at going forward, you say, I'm gonna have Dak, I'm gonna have Zeke, I'm gonna have Dez. How about wide receiver number to number two? Wide receiver? Yeah,

wide receiver. I got a sneaky one for you that I thought about today. Guard not not not top of the draft. You got you got Lyle Collins coming back. You got Zach Martin, You're probably lock them down, but you're into your I think that Chaz Green is gonna play right tackle for this team next year. That's what I think. Okay, Okay, with all the with all the needs, with all the needs, with all those needs we're talking about. Okay, Dane, shoot me some of your defensive ends. You've got any

I mean, people kind of give us an idea. And every week you should follow Dane on Twitter. DP Brugler, you should every time you and Jeff you do podcast. But you kind of put out guys to watch right who are who are some people? And I know this is probably putting you on the spot a little bit, but maybe some of the guys were taughout the defensive ends, the cornerbacks people, and you know, let's all chime in of guys that you know, where's the Michigan kid fit

in all this? And I think looking at this class coming up, there's I think defensive end could be strong, edge rusher as a whole. I think corners to be strong. Running back obviously really the one position I look like I look at that's not going to be strong. His offensive line, which is okay, well, yeah, that normally doesn't happen, Okay, I mean deep saying defensive end in corner is deep. I think it's gonna be a great start and a

great fit for what this team's gonna need. When when fans start their study, what's position of the of the two, which are they going to feel the best studying and watch it? Well, I think you look at edge rusher because of one guy, and that's Miles Garrett. I mean, and listening too many games for that happen. It's already over. That's a thing you can't have listen. He's Greg Ellis everyone stop, don't do that. Yeah you don't. You know how much I love Joey Bosa last year. I know

Greg Miles is a good player. Miles Garrett will have a higher grade than Joey Bosa. I mean, I think Miles Garrett's gonna be He's gonna be on your book. Miles Garrett's the number one player in this draft. This is all right, It's October nineteen. It's not a surprise. He's the number one players draft. And I will be shocked unless he comes unless some character stuff comes out around stuff. He's built like a tank and he moves like a receiver. Yeah, that's a thing, don real six

five's two sixty five. He moves so fast and he's not a speed rusher. I mean he is a speed rusher, but he's not only a speed rusher. He knows how to use his hands, his leverage, push push pull technique, he can do inside, he can do it all. I mean, this kid's a real dad. It's cruel irony in a way, but I mean it's early. The Cowboys are gonna have too many wins to get this guy. They already know, they already do. And here's the is this is a year with good pass rushers, and again the Cowboys will

probably be back at up in the round. I mean, that's that's the question that's going to be. Is he worth training up? That's actually I'm I'm Garrett Love Garrett. He's a great player. I'm a little bit more curious about the other guy on that line, DaShan, because he seems to be a beast and he might be a more realistic option somebody though. Okay, say the Cowboys do finish in the finish somewhere between twenty four and on down,

is there an edge rusher can Barnett make it. I don't tend to see a guy making I don't think Derek Barnett's gonna make it. I think he's gonna be somewhere top twenty and he's moved. He's the perfect guy for this team. Barnett, all these guys I would know if you I only know a few. Dade his way on our podcast five get Ready, I throw alley oops and Dane does three sixty dunks. Uh. Dwyane Smooth from Illinois. I think he'll be in that late first early second

round discussion day. Shawn Hall, I think he'll be in that discussion. Hall is a guy that only played opposite Miles Garrett, so he's not getting as much attention. Miles Garrett didn't play against South Carolina two weeks ago, and Dashawn Hall was still outstanding. I mean, this isn't that type of deal. Hall is a real deal. You're looking

at other guys. Carl Lawson from Auburn, Charles Harris from Missouri's a big time player Missouri guy um and so a lot of these guys are under class They come out. Defensive line I think is going to be one of the deeper positions this year, especially at the top. Miles Garrett as the top guy. Malik McDowell from Michigan State defensive lineman pap dancing right now. Jonathan Allens from Alabama is unbelievable. We know him, we wanted him, and for

some reason he decided to save his report. Yeah, O J. Howards, Yeah, I kept Jonathan Allens. There's there's some guys we still got. We could spend this whole time talking about Alabama's front seven. They got a new middle linebackers. It's better than Ragland. How about that game this week? You're gonna tweet out though about Alabama, Texas A and M players to watch right. I just did, actually, and it's as good as Alabama's front seven is. Garrett's still the best player on the

field a Saturday. So yeah, but number two, three, four or five and six or at Alabama YEA, A, A and M has some safeties. Justin Evans our money Watts about our LSU safety Jamal Adams. He's a solid player. I'm not he said that. Jamal Adam. He hasn't and he hasn't been. He hasn't been as amazing as I thought. Yeah, I know, I'm with you. I mean, I think he's a good player, but hey, Trey White. Trey White, though he's been predicting good, he came back for a senior

year to prove he was first round worthy. He's so far, he's living up to it. He's doing a nice job. Talk about a couple of corners before we get out of here. Yeah, about five minutes on this, we have a couple of corners. I could go top ten this year. Tease Tabor from Florida, Marlin Humphrey, another Alabama kid. Is he better than our guy? Hart thinks? So? Yeah? Is a acording to Laquon Treadwell. I remember the combine they said, hey who is Yeah, who was tough? And he was

like nobody. He's like, oh the kid at Florida, not Hardgraves. Yeah, so boy he is. He's awesome. He's gonna be a top ten guy as long as a character checks out. Okay, Marlon Humphrey again, other top ten guy seniors. There's some good guys with Cordrea Tankrously from Clemson, Davious White who Dave mentioned, and the interesting guy to meet is Jordan Lewis Michigan Corner who made that outstanding interception probably saw in Sports Center. But this guy is a legit cover corner.

He's just small, so will will he fit in the draft? He has first round, first round skills, but again, okay, don't make that sound again, second or third round size, So Jordan Lewis will be interesting. Uh, guy that we scout, I'm putting you on the spot real quick, and I didn't. I'm hijacking this where you like, where do you see Jill Peppers going in this draft? I think he's looking

at my top five players overall. He's in there. My top five players overall, Miles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Milik McDowell. Jabrill Peppers is number four. He is safety in this scheme. That that's the big debate. Yeah, sure, where does he play? Because and people will throw out honey badger, We did it with Ramsey two. Where does he play? My answer, Miles Jack, My answer is on the field exactly. Those type of guys that transcends scheme. You just you find a way to put him on the field and they

let that athleticism and ability take over. Jabrill Peppers is that type of guy. He's not the honey badger. He doesn't have those type of cover skills, but his when the plays in front of him, his play speed and burst are unbelievable. Blur blur speed. He's not missing tackles this year, which he did last year. And then watch him on punt returns. He's unbelievable. This is a kid who's six foot two hundred and fifteen pounds. Watch him run the ball fifteen he's playing. See you're making the

face and go no, I'm making the excited face. Okay, you can play linebacker at that size. You can do that now. But he's tackler, big tackler. He's a big time tackler. Where its you gotta watch. And this is a guy he was recruited as a corner, played nickel last year, linebacker this year. I have some questions when he has to turn his hips in coverage, but when the plays in front of him, forget about it. I'm

excited to be talking about this. And obviously the Cowboys playing right now is the paramount concern, and they look good and that's exciting by week dratime, but I'm I'm already bummed out that, like we're not gonna be in this like top of the draft conversation like all these studs are gonna be gone by I've been doing this since May, and I think I'm so excited because I still want to talk to you about this. Jeff, we do it. You know, we talk fastest answer I've ever

gotten on a text. I was like, Dan, what do you think about a college football with some draft in there? And it came back before I hit sinned. It was really weird. It wasn't yes, it wasn't okay, it was please, Hey, what do you think can we get? Can we get this in quickly? Because watching other guys that people talk about at quarterback, like, to me, this quarterback class, it's

like bizarre. I'm not really excited, Like Deshan Kaiser can play, Watson can play, They can play, but there's nobody there that I'm like, hey, there's the number one pick in the draft now. And then I think we have to preface this conversation by saying, who saw Carson Wentz going top two overall this time last year? I did you know? I watched a lot of North Dakota State film. I like, you know, we I liked him at this point last year, but I thought, you know, maybe as a chance, where

did you see him? Where did you think maybe first draft? Well? Yeah, and then I thought he started off in the low twenties. And then it was right. I remember when I had started, when I had a chance to go see him live in Frisco at the did and at the bowl game that the FCS National title game. That's when I was completely sold. I thought this guy is just yeah exactly. So he was everywhere and that evaluations worked out for the Eagle so far. But with this quarterback class, the

senior class, I don't like. I don't like these guys. Chad Kelly from Ole Miss, he'll probably be the first senior drafted. I don't trust him. Uh, but there's a lot of issues going on. They thought a cop and written to shoot up a club with an AK forty seven. There's there's a lot of a lot of issues with him, like my job too much, yeah exactly. And so the senior class, I don't don't have a Carson Wentz this year.

The underclassman that's going to be the drives of the discussion in terms of the underclassman or the quarterback class this year. Deshaun Kaiser is still my guy at Notre Dame. I think he has a chance to be the top quarterback. Uh it's Deshaun Watson. He was viewed as that, you know, the clear cut guy right now, I don't have in my top ten prospects. I like him. I just I like the sounds you're making today. I worry about I worry about his accuracy, his ball placement. Um, he's a

good player. We saw it against Louisville, what he did this past year going mono imano against Lamar Jackson. Watching Louisville, I can't come out that. You can't come out. Yeah. One one guy to watch for is Mitch Trubiscuit in North Carolina. I've seen that guy play that day in Miami that he's a good player who small sample size, but good guy to watch. But he had trouble. Who did they play the week before Virginia Tech. It was the same thing with the Shawn Kayser at NC State.

So you almost have to throw the tape out. It was that bad. I know the draft show is it's a draft show, but I'm just sitting here thinking, thank God, this isn't the Cowboys problem anymore. Yeah, that's we weren't talking about quarterback even look at broadest. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Bro, I'm all about I'm all about the kid from THEE. Even if even if Dakota is not the twelve year answer here, the grain, the rain, Dakota, even if he's not the franchise guy the Cowboys, I would they will

not be drafting a quarterback. Man. This is a team that does not like drafting quarterbacks, especially when they got it about this when hey, guys, is wrong on this team next year. See, now that's that's your question again. Now that's a question because if you like Mo claiborne, if you like Mo Claiborne and you like Ron Learry, you could sure you See that's why I said guard is a need for this team because Ron Leary's not

staying here. I just see if you if we'll get like a fifth round comp pick and find our next franchise quarterback. There you go, It's easy. Well, guys, that's all the time we have for today the Draft show, and I want to thank everybody for coming in. David Hellman, thanks for always hanging out with me at the start. Jeff Kavanaugh, thanks for taking a day from one oh

five three. Make sure you check out his show. He tells a lot of college football talk, a lot of draft talk from ten to three every day on one oh five three. One of the good young, bright football minds. I'm a buddy here Dane Bruger from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Make sure checking out his work as well. He's working hard talking about this draft up. We're gonna be back with you in January. We'll have

a lot more to talk about. We'll talk about this team, what they need to do, talk about all the other teams. We'll have a I have a better understanding two about the players. I was fun listening to Dane and Jeff talk about these guys. So I'm gonna start on my film work with Jeff on December fifth. Why you started that later? You started that early last year because the Cowboys were bad. Cowboys played December first, and I'd done it on December first that they weren't going to play.

It was a Thursday night. So I'm gonna start my film work Monday. Theoretically, you're going to be working on college film during a potential playoff run. I'm gonna try because you know why, I know that I want to draft the draft is so good for the Cowboys. I want to make sure we do it again. It was fun, it wasn't. Thank you guys so much. Thanks everybody out there for join us for my guy Kemp Garrison, Executive producers Brian Bruss, and we'll see you next time on the Draft Show.