Draft Show: 2 Weeks 'Til Draft Day

a draft. Brian brought us, Dane Burglar, David Hellman, Kent Garrison. Welcome to the Draft Show. Side to have you for this week. We're getting close, boys. We say that every week. Do you feel like, Dane, were you ready for this thing two weeks ago? A week ago? Yeah? I think I think were I mean, really, the biggest thing is just teams are teams are scrammling a little bit right now. Team the teams are the medical reach actually going on? Right Yeah, I think that's the that's the last big

step that we have going on. Yeah, uh, you know what's going on. John Ross, Ruben Foster, Ryan Ramcheck. I mean, there's plenty of David Moreau yeah, he's included. I mean there are plenty Tachy. You hate Fabian Moreau, Oh, I love you, just love Fabian's But yeah, you know you're right about the recheck there. There's you know, plenty of first round possibilities that dependent on the information that comes out of Indie. The next two days today and tomorrow

could really kind of shake things up. Cowboys brought in Fabian Moreau, Tack McKinley, and Tack a couple of injured guys right there, David Hellman, that they did. We've got you convinced now that you would like Tack McKinley. I've done. I've done a pretty good little one eighty on old Tach McKinley. I'm he's not He's not the guy that I best case scenario that I want. But you can go find me saying I'm very anti that pick. You know, maybe I'm had a bad experience with him last night.

It was that Tack Tack McKinley. Not from what I saw. You didn't watch what I didn't cross the wheeler the wheeler kid from USC kicked his butt a little bit. Yeah, kind of one of those things, kind of one of those things where you're like going and it was a Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and I were watching tape. We were watching Wheeler. We were just trying. We're looking for lineman.

You know, do you like Wheeler? You know what, I didn't think he was terrible, but he was blocking tack McKinley and it's I know, it's a rivalry game USC in UCLA. Bothered me a little bit. I was hoping that he would kind of tear a Wheeler up. Well, I think that's what McKinley. Speed and missy. That guy, well, speed and motor, that's what he is right now. Yeah, I mean I think the the testing drills, the three cone, the short shot of that showed a little tightness. Yeah.

And you know he's just he's not a refined pass rusher with his hands. I mean he'll use his hands. I'm not sure he has much thought. And scared me a little bit last night of hate when that happens for the millionth time, Like you're picking twenty eighth, you're not, no, but I you know what's not gonna be that guy. But I want a guy that can. I want a guy that can beat a six round offensive tackle. That's fair. Yeah, that's all I'm asking. So now I'm on team tape. No, no, no,

I'm with it. I'm just saying it. It. Man, when you go back and watch that tape and you're you're watching somebody else and you're thinking, Okay, there's that guy, there's that guy, there's you know, you're kind of bouncing around, and then all of a sudden, he has six, seven, eight plays in a row where he's not even sniffing the guy. Yeah. I think that happens quite a bit on his tape. I mean I speed and motor that's his game. And if he doesn't win off the snap,

you know, blockers can control him. He's not the biggest guy either, he's six two two fifty. Those are great traits, by the way. Yeah, speed and I'll take speed and motors spash at twenty eight. That's why I think he's definitely in consideration at twenty eighth, and why there's a chance he might not be there at twenty eight. Today,

we're gonna do a little show. We're gonna I want to get into Dane Brugler's two round mock draft that he did for CBS Sports, because I think he's got some interesting players on this board at several different spots, the guys I consider first round players, and we've been talking about really how deep this draft is. We'll get into that. We're gonna we're gonna do that here in a second. We're also gonna play a little Twitter on

the twenty. We encourage you guys to get your questions in at the draft show to David Hellman, that's our best way to answer your questions about these players. Give you a little idea what we think. Maybe you have a guy or two that you know you're curious about, and we can help you out with that. We'll also do tell me more again. I always talk about that as being one of my favorite segments because that's David Hellman's way of trying to dig a little deeper in

this draft. Maybe a name or two when we have our three days of draft coverage here in two weeks, that when a name pops up, you're like, hey, I've heard that name before. So David is a really nice job of getting those guys. We got some good ones. We do got some good ones. Dane Brugler's mock draft second first round. We talked about that a little bit

last week the two round mock draft. Here's a second round at thirty three, Cleveland takes Tredavious White, cornerbacket from Ellis and you kind of feel like he's a first round player there. The Cleveland Browns are getting too thirty three, don't you. Yeah, and they coached him at the Senior Bowl and yeah, familiarity there every year. I mean, I think this year especially, we're going to see him there. How much difference is there between twenty five and forty five?

We'll get ready, We're about to get to this, right, So that's that's why this is my point here, Right, this is about to be when I this is what I'm trying to the point. I'm trying to about to read off some names that yeah, yeah, how about Marlon Humphrey just San Francisco at thirty four? Wow, how about Tach McKinley to the to the Rams at thirty seven? We just talked about Tack McKinley. We're talking about him

as a twenty eighth for the Cowboys thirty seven. Yeah, you guys were all over chumping back going back in this draft. I would backflip. I would be so excited if I could tell you that Tack McKinley was gonna be there at at thirty seven if you traded to the Rams, would you go back? Absolutely, you'd go back, wouldn't you? Every guy that you've listed so far as a guy that I would want? Oh, how about this one? Dane gives the New York Jets at thirty nine, He's

gonna give him Charles Harris, Charles Harris fan. I'm a Charles Harris fan. I would I would venture a guest that in mock draft world, Charles Harris is the most mocked the leader in the clubhouse to be by far, I think by far at twenty eight. Yeah, that's thirty nine right there. So you're telling me I could get the same player the same I could potentially get a guy I want at twenty eight, at thirty seven, and

now at thirty nine. That's this draft? Yeah? Okay, Oh, I'm gonna keep going here, get ready reading, keep reading? But forty forty Taco Charlton, Wow, going to the going to the Carolina Panthers at forty how about it forty two? I know you guys don't like this guy. Dane hates this guy, So that's okay. Saints you think Saints take a forty two guy that we hate. No, yea, he hates him. No, it's not fair. I gotta that's not

He doesn't hate this guy. Willis Fabian Moreau. Oh yeah, okay, all right, that's a guy I would consider at twenty eight. He's a thirty visit for the Cowboys. Yeah, I think they would consider him at twenty eight. Every guy that is, I think every guy you've listed off. First of all, a lot of them are thirty visits. Second of all, I think that they would consider most of them at twenty eight, depending on how the board. Forty two Let me do this for you. How about this one forty

three Philadelphia Eagles. I think this board's legitimate. By the way, I think he's just reading. Dan Dane does a great job with this. Read the name, big guy. He's Tabor. Yeah, forty three Philadelphia Eagles. I think he would be a consideration at twenty eight. Here, I think people see the people are enamored with his speed. Go watch him play, though, just press play I have I'm not moving Hi out the first round. I know you dumped him. I did

early second round, early second round. So at forty three you're praising the Eagles for that pick, right, Yeah, I think it's a solid pick for them. I mean I think it's right around the range where he should go. So if Dallas takes him at twenty eight, you're on day, the first night of the draft. You're gonna sit here with all of us and say, well, that's a little bit of a reach, right, I think they're better players on the board. Yeah. Oh, I'll see about that. Okay,

we'll see about that. At forty six. Wazizia excuse me, God always miss his name up Woozier Colorado cornerback at forty six to Indy. I don't think i'd take him at twenty eight. No, is that a reach for them at forty six? I don't think so. I mean, these corners are so you're you're not going to get a consensus order. It would not surprise me if we have you know, Woozier as I don't consider Woozy in the

same class with Rowan Tabor, and that's two pixel. I know teams that do, because I think his versatility is key. At forty six, you're talking about the halfway point of the second round. I mean, it's not like like you're you're getting back. Let me tell you a couple other names as Mosey down this board guy, I like Carl Lawson forty seven to Ozzie Newsom and them at Baltimore. Ozzie just picking good players, that's what they did. He Ozzie could sit there and it's like, you know what,

I'm gonna have a turkey sandwich, diet PEPSI. Here. Who's on the board, Oh Carl Lawson? Oh yeah, hand that card in. We sat next to Ozzie for the whole Senior Bowl. I love Ozzie and Brian was just trying to get him to tell him his secrets. It was great. I love him. He's always so nice to me too. Yeah you dream Lamb Barbecue with him still talking to me? Yeah, dream Lamb Barbecue. Gotta try that place out by the way. How about this one? All right? This is an interest one.

I think I think Dane's got this one dead. I think he's got this one dead on Minnesota at forty eight. Joe Mixon. Hey, if you last that long. Dane and I were at the Oklahoma Pro Day. Who was who was the one general manager and coach head coach that we're at the pro day, Spielman and Zimmer exactly. Spielman and Zimmer makes this guy right here, This is thinking, This is thinking when you're sitting there, like, you know

what he knows. Joe Mixon's a really good player. Remember somebody, you know, the anonymous quotes that come out around this time of year. Somebody was like, you're taking the hit if you pick him in the first or the seventh. So if you was great, that's a great quote. By the way, I wish i'd have thought of that, you might as well do it. Yeah, I mean, hey, he's my seventeenth best player in my top my top fifties coming out, by the way, that's coming out real soon.

With Mixon. It just comes down to value, you know, because that's the draft forty eight. You don't want you don't want to take a player before you have to. So if you take I mean, I understand it, thinking if you're gonna take him in the third, you might as well take him in the first. Yeah, but if you can get him in the second, then you wait till a second. You get a first round player in the first, you get him. I made the prediction. I

made the prediction watch Cincinnati at forty one. Yeah, that sure, I think that's Dane's got Stewart from Alabama, the wide receiver going at forty one. Cincinnati's my team. You got to watch them for that does the questionable guy criminal team? The criminal team, here's one Zach Cunningham forty nine to the Redskins. Okay, can I hijack this for a second, and I may hijack this, you know what, To be honest, I want to know, and I'm putting you on the spot a little bit. But who is Dane taken in

the top thirty two? That's got all that because everybody that you've said is a common commonly seen first round. We went through his mock draft, We went to your mock draft last week. I think the only surprise is in the first round that maybe Trubisky. Trubisky he put up at h he put up at three to Chicago. And by the way, Tisky's going first round. By the way, he's one of the first I've seen do this. He

ain't lying. I mean, there's guys, I'm getting a lot of those calls about Trubisky and business not falling out of top time. Yeah, I agree, and just don't not number one, just please No. I there's a team and that I reached out to in the NFC North. Yeah, they just got done with their draft meetings. The scout told me that everyone in that room was convinced that the Bears are taking Trubiscuit three, or they're taking a quarterback. They think it's Trubisky. I think you're right. You mocked

Trubisky there. I think you're absolutely right about because I'm talking to guys in the same same division, but I'm also talking some guys out west, right, you know, And I was trying to get ahold of some guys that's scouting them actually in North Carolina. That's what my next mission. But Zack Cunningham though, real quick though, Uh, I mean names that are in the first round that maybe might be a surprise or not necessarily surprised. But I mean

the four quarterbacks. Um, and we've got a Dory Jackson, h Jared Davis, the Florida linebacker. I think he's a first round player. Tias Bowser from Houston. I think he's going up the boards. Yeah you you expect to hear Bowser and Um, who'd you just say? I'm an idiot?

Jared Davis, Dory Jackson, door and Dory Jackson is a guy that I think is like in range for the Cowboys at sixty not twenty year See, I mean what if he was I'd ever thought he would get to sixty because I'm thinking, okay, is he better than what people like him? Better than Tabor Tabor forty three? This guy was qualified for the Olympics. I mean, he's an elite athlete. He won the Jim Thorpe Award. Should enough. But he did told me the game he got bullied

in though, Dane. He told me to watch that guy the Utah game that you just kind of if you're a Dorry Jackson past that game. Yeah. And and I'll tell you what. Watch the Penn State game godwin. Yeah, well Penn State, Yeah, that's a big man running. Watched the Washington in game. Yes, he had two picks that game, but John Ross shredded him. He several times. He doesn't like me as being like a dominant guy, which is

what I want. And get ready when I say tonight we'll be talking about him and maybe like everybody be like, well remember what we just said. I have a second third round grade on him. Yeah, but I do think he's there's a very good chance, i'd say better than he goes first round with that, with that athleticism and so really, besides Dori Jackson might be the only surprise Jared Davis by that. Well, I know you probably don't because you don't like him, But I mean that sounds

like Obi to me too. Obi. I have him at nineteen in this mock. Ah a third round two? Three on your board? Right or three? He said, yeah, see three on my board. I don't like it. See That's that's where I this. This is the same anybody gives Zach Cunningham a little love, please, Besides me, I like him. I like him a lot, all right. The fact that he's gonna end up in Washington here on your deal is not good in my in my eyes, if you're a Cowboy fan and Zach Cunningham at forty nine ends

up in Washington, that's bad. Plus they get Gary on Conley in the first round in this mom Ah, that's okay, got London Fletcher written all over him, just making it's It's funny how itackles a game in the fall. I feel like I'm driving the bus on some of these guys and then when it comes to draft season people take over. Yeah, because they just like him a little

more than I do. Like I love Zach Cunningham. Oh no, I just he's not the top or he said he's a top five player on your board, or yeah, I've got him up there. Yeah. So I mean when my top fifty comes out, and hey, you know I do because what I want to do I just grade the tape. You know, I don't get to do all the red flax stuff. You know, I wish I did. I wish I got all the red flag stuff. But Zach Cunningham's he's never coming off the field. All right. Here's another

one that's gonna make thirty visit. Guy Dane reported this Curtis Samuel, Yeah, number fifty to Tampa Bay, one of the two offensive players that the Cowboys brought in on a thirty visit. That's if you lasts that long. I have him going fifty, but he should be I have him like twenty six on my board overall. I mean, this guy should be a late one, early two. If he falls to fifty, there's no brain. That's what I'm saying.

If you're the Cowboys and you're there at sixty and you're going, man, maybe somebody will get to us, Maybe one of these guys will get to us, And all of a sudden you're looking at Samuel and you might have you had a late one or early or a two on him. Then all of a sudden, it's you know, although I hear, I mean, there's I don't know. I guess you would call it smoke. I hear people keep talking about Dalvin Cook going a Tampa if he falls that far, which is I mean, who knows? Right, it's

definitely possible. They brought him in for a workout, you know. I think that's the big question is, well, these three running backs go top twenty. I'll go top twenty. I think two definitely will. I think he just comes out to Dalvin Cook. Does he go nineteen? You know a few other teams that might might be in the running for him. I could just as easily see Dalvin Cook fall to the late one, maybe even out of one

that combine killed him. What plus you factor in the off field shoulder you were talking about two hundred ten pounds durability factor. I mean, I still Dalvin Cook's top running back. He's my top running back too, But you know it's gonna wind up with the Giants just to just to kind of go down the board packer in this mock. Yeah, well, another one. I think you need to worry about it. Fifty five here we're I'm gonna

finish this thing up the Giants at fifty five. Ray Kwon McMillan, linebacker, Ohio State, one of my favorite linebackers, one of my favorite physical linebackers. Him and Cuttingham. Love these guys Foster Alabama. Okay, i'd worry about him going to the Giants. How about if you're a Cowboy fan, you're thinking about right tackle in the second round, Taylor Moten, that had happened right in front you at fifty eight seat? Can you throwing your pen? You maybe you're thinking about

a right tackle? Probably not because of who the Cowboys getting this scenario. Yeah, I mean, I spoiler, I know I know who Dan has us take Terrell Basham Basham, which I mean, yeah, Taylor Mohen is a good player, and I'd be down to bolster tackle death. But if you give me Terrell Basham, I'll be okay. And in this scenario came down to two players. Yeah, Basham and Marcus Williams safety from Utah still on the board. All right, let me ask you this that I also think, if

I'm not mistaken, did I miss something here? If I went through it right in red and right, you have Tankersley on the board still right, have him going to pick after sixty one? Okay, tankers least on the board. He's got what on the board too? What? Yeah? No, he's going first round? Yeah? Oh you had him on your thing first round. Yeah, I haven't going to Detroit. Okay, my bad. He would have been to pick at twenty eight if you're still there, okay, I would have been wild. Yeah,

oh that's right. Detroit was twenty one. My bad, dad, I'm sorry about that. That's right, okay. But you had Tankersley up and he had Marcus Williams up. Yeah. Still, those are probably the top two player. I mean, Derek Rivers was still there tankrously, but yeah, that had him going bash him to pass Rusher who. Actually, I'm glad you led the show off with this because you posted this on Tuesday, I think. Yeah, And the first thing I thought, well, I'm sorry about that. You're absolutely right,

my bad. I my ideal guy, the guy that I would want the most if all things are equal. As Kevin King, I think cornerback all things considered as a big need right now and in the future. Blah blah blah. But the way that this all works out, I really think the Cowboys are better suited getting their pass rusher at twenty eight, and there's a better chance you'll find a dB you really like at sixty. Like, I'd rather have Tack at twenty eight than bash him at six. Okay,

McKinley and Tankersley back to back. How do you feel about that? I like that better than Adore and bash him. Yeah, I agree there, I'd rather have McKinley and tankerously that duo rather than Jackson. I mean anything that includes a Dorry Jackson the first round. I'm gonna veto how about Tabor? How about Tabor? How about Tabor at twenty eight and Bashem? I'd be fine with that, I'd be a yeah, I'd be okay with it. But I think i'd prefer the

Tankersley and McKinley scenario better. How okay, And you think it's a fifty fifty shot he goes first round? Is it possible that a door Jackson would be there at sixty. I don't think so. I'd be shocked. Yeah, see that's what I'm saying. I don't think so either. I'm trying to like give me T J. Watt at twenty eight. Yeah, and then Tankersley or a safety Marcus Williams. Yeah, I mean about this though, he how about he's got he's got Quincy Wilson going to the Kansas City at fifty nine. Yeah,

And do you feel all right? How about Watt and Wilson. I mean, I don't like Wilson, but I guess I mean at that point, in a late second, it's not a reach, you know. I mean that's he probably doesn't last that long. There's a few NFL teams that like him a lot more than we do, so there's a good chance he's not on the board. But I mean the top corners that did not make this two round mock Jordan Lewis from Michigan. Yeah, I think he's a

second round player. I would take him all day. He's got some issues right now, that just kind of cut them out right with her spoon from Colorado player we both liked, so I think he could be in the mix there um and then of course you get your Sydney Jones, who probably more of a third round player. But at the end of the second you get wiped out. I don't I'd be surprised that they went that direction two years on a row with a basically a red

shirt year at the position. But in in in ten seconds, tell me what we just learned about going through this. It's a stack draft, and you know out there the twenty five to forty five range, you feel good about who you're going to get. So that's why the tradeback option we've talked about it. Love that option. Give me no pick at twenty eight and give me pick thirty three, pick forty wins Cleveland's next pick. After thirty two, thirty three, fifty two, and sixty you also have sixty five first

pick in the third. I mean, yeah, give me, just give me picks. And we need we need quarterbacks. There need the quarterbacks. This is a mail back question today for the Cowboys to to to to potentially, and we said the same thing. Yeah, quarterback and offensive tackle. Yeah, would be the two positions. Ram Checker Bowls with the stereo get to that point there you go. Yeah, So yeah, I'm Trubisky's going top ten. I feel good about that.

And who knows about the Shaun Watson, Kaiser and Mahomes are kind of the wild cars in that late one area. Teams like him enough to get that your option, make there, make sure they secure that quarterback. Maybe. I think Dallas, I think it's gonna be fun we get two weeks from tonight, in the end of that draft or towards when we get down to Dallas's pick. Yeah, not going to be surprised if we don't pick on Thursday. Yeah, all right, thank you guys, good good, good sufdant, thanks

for the draft. That's a fascinating stuff. I totally agree with you. Man. There's guys. I mean, a guy want at twenty eight is sitting there potentially at forty two guys sitting there at thirty seven with McKinley. So tells you a lot about the depth is draft. Okay, coming back, we were going to get into a little Twitter on the twenty, so stay tuned. With unlimited data from AT and T, you can stream your favorite direct TV content

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gonna have. So we're very excited about that. So make sure you grab Dane's guide and then our guide when it comes out, and you will be set for the NFL Draft in two weeks. You did a lot of good work in there, and I know everyone contributed. I was doing some of the comps for that. Yeah. That's a hard exercise. Yeah, try and fit, you know, because you don't you want to paint an accurate picture of who these guys are, right, but you don't want to

overdo it or undersell a player. That's tough, but it's it's important. It's a great exercise. And I'll tell you what Jerry Jones in that draft room understands. When you compare a player to another player, I think does that. I think I think that when you start talking about guys, and for example, you use the Justin Tuck reference Taco Charles for Taco Charlton, that would paint a picture for fans and paint a picture for Jerry Jones because he knows who Justin Tuck is. Right. But that's the kind

of thing that you will get in the magazine. We're proud to have a Dane on board helping us out with his analysis, his mock draft, the comparisons and all that. Okay, Dave, I'm way behind. It's now turned onto Twitter twenty now Twitter on the thirty, so sorry, take it away, Dave. Um. All Right, we kind of touched on this in the first segment, but I want to check in with y'all. Um. We really haven't talked a lot about Sidney Jones since he tours Achilles. John wants to know you kind of.

I think you said the third round grade, but where do you see him going in this draft? Now? He's not an option for the Cowboys in the first two rounds. No, they had the red shirt year last year on a player, right. I don't think this. He could be optimistic about, you know, coming back and playing and all that. But if you take him, you're clearly looking at him for two thousand and eighteen. Right, So, UH, to be honest with you, if I had to take a guy, if we could have,

if we could have reversed it. If this year was last year, I would have taken him in the second round. If you're if I knew I was going to red shirt him again him for my twenty seventeen season, as opposed to the injury that Jalen Smith suffered, right, so, right,

because different confidence. I feel confident he's going to come back and play, and that's why he has a good chance to go into second You know, if a team's in that position where they feel comfortable red shirting a player for a year, kind of stashing him and then getting him next year as a first round corner, you get next year level two first round picks basically, So it would not be a surprise if he ends up going in the second somewhere, not to this team, I

don't think. But I don't I see him dropping two rounds. I think third round. That's when you start talking having that conversation about him. We always had that injury. When I was in draft rooms, the fourth round was known as the criminal round and the injured round. Yeah, problem round, right, Yeah, So that's kind of where I don't I think he's going to be in the third round. I agree with Dane on that Dane's two round mock had Tabor going in the mid forties, actually had him going to the Yeah,

going to Philly at forty three. John wants to know if there's any chance he falls all the way to sixty. I don't see why not. I mean, teams are scared off by It's it's not just a speed, like I've said before, it's the inner brashness. It's just it's not going to be for everybody. He's got first round ability? Does he on that board when you watch the tape?

I think so? But I mean, all things considered, you just you know, two years ago we're talking at this time, we're not talking about Randy Gregory in the late second, you know. I mean, just you never know how some of these issues will be looked at by teams. Um So, I don't think it would be a huge surprise, somewhat of a you know, kind of a little you know,

get catch your eye. If he is still on the board in the in the mid fifties, then you start thinking, oh wow, how would you feel about a draft if you took McKinley and Tabor the Cowboys. Let me ask Let me ask you this, say they take uh, Kevin King in the first round. Yeah, and Tabor's still there at sixty. Yep. Oh do you double up? Yes, Dane. Awesome segue because Keaton wants to know. Is there a better chance of taking back to back corners or back

to back edge rushers. Corners gotta be yeah, I mean think, but I think the safety positions something they have to think about the two. But will there be more talented corners left than safeties? I think it might be a scenario where what I just mentioned, where a Tabor, maybe a player they consider at twenty eight, is still there for them at sixty and got a first round grade and he comes too valuable to pass up at that point. I would do a backflip if they drafted Kevin King

and Jayalen Tabor. I mean, you just I mean I can't do a backflip, but I would try. I hope it happens. I want to see it. I know I do it. I'll do it in the studio, I'll do it on the air. Does that immediately fix their problems at corner? We're still talking about rookies, guys that have never taken a snap. Fix No, I mean, you gotta

feel better absolutely right. I mean that gives you three You can't say that they're definitely going to pan out, but it gives you three talented guys who are under contract for the foreseeable future on top of what you have in Scandrick and Nolan Carroll. Right, are you gonna this is gonna be funny? Are you gonna bash them? It's up to They got to think out of your book.

It's good. Are you going to bash them though, if Basham is on the board there at sixty and they take Tabor assuming King is their first round pick, yes, no, I won't bash them because I and I know the past. I'm a broken record. I know the pass rush needs help, but the pass rush is not as drastically understaffed as the secondary is in my opinion. So you're okay going back to back. Hey, David Irving just signed his exclusive rights tender. They feel good about him. You still you

have DeMarcus Lawrence in a contractor year. You've got defensive tackles that you feel good about, like you've got you got Benson Mayowa, who they liked. I'm not trying to sell anybody that these are great players, but they're they're guys that are there who can for once sacked more than the Giants, right, yeah, yea in the league. It just depends, I think on how how close are they. If these guys are close, like they have Tabor and Basham, you know, relatively close, then I think you go to

the pass rusher. Not only did you address corner already, but I could argue that pass rush is a more important position just in general. And so if they're close, I think you should go with the pass rush. Now if you have you know, a significant not significant, but just a clearly better grade on Tabor compared to a bash them or your next next best pass rusher didn't. Yeah, by all means double up. I like what I've seen

on Tabor a lot more than bash them. Just their tape, just their tape, not anything else, um which and real quickly. But that I ran into that problem when we did our seventh round mock. Yeah, between you got caught not having a safety but didn't between pass rush, corner and safety. I'm not I don't love the odds that all three get adequately addressed with a premium pick, just the way that it falls that way, you know, And that yeah,

I wound up just you're looking at it. You're trying to determine like how the volume the value is going to fall, and all of a sudden, you haven't drafted a safety and it's like the sixth round, and obviously you probably want to. But easier said than sometimes when I do these mock drafts, I hear from you know, Joe fan who says, well, their top needs or this, this, this, It just doesn't work that way. You know, your first rounds, ye, first rounds are top needs, second round, next need. It

just does it. It rarely, if ever, happens like that. Ran into Stephen Jones coming up to the stairs after lunch yesterday, and he just reiterated what we believed all along, that the positions that the Cowboys need players are all strong positions. It's true, Corners, the defensive ends, the safeties, all positions that they can use. He feels he felt, I mean, the smile on his face told me the story that he feels like at twenty eight there's gonna

be a guy that they're gonna be excited about. Yeah, but there'll be a guy they're excited about at thirty four or two. They can add another pack maybe we'll see if they can work the phones. Well, we'll get on the phone and work that out. James wants to James wants y'all to give him a Day three guy that like you're standing on the tip like he's there. Let's I mean starting in the fourth round, but even going all the way through, but you're just like pounding

your chest like this. We gotta get him. Get this guy. You got a day You got a Day three guy. I don't know what position we want to talk about, because I you know, like a past rushing Joe Mathis from Washington could be one of those guys. I Yeah, I've got Joe Matthis in the second round. Yeah. I think with the injury, with his immature past, I think he's gonna good chance he slips to Day three. I think Joe Matthis in the fourth is one of those guys.

I mocked pump free. Yeah, you're not excited about that one, are you? Why not? He's one hundred and seventy five pounds, kind of can do a little bit of everything. Sixty four touchdowns, I believe something like that, six thousand yards. Special teams ability, Yeah, does he have special teams ability? I watched I watched him at this I watched him at the Senior Bowl catch punts. Look pretty comfortable doing it. I know, small sample size though, that's the only thing

that worries me. There's such a hater Dane. Now we're talking about fourth round here. Yeah, he's saw about fourth round. That's way too rich for me. I would take. I've a draftable grade on him. Um, I see what about your kid from Ohio, the linebacker Brown? Is that too rich? No? I think we both agree that would be. We talked about him, did we last week? As this team doesn't need linebacker. I'm just saying you wanted somebody else stand up on the table four, I'll stand up for him,

all right? Another another fourth round linebacker from the Midwest. Where have we heard that before? Yeah? I got a couple of receivers that I really like in the fourth Mac Holiday or Mac Hollins. I'm sorry, Matt Collins. Mac Collins from North Carolina tell you what I don't know about that. I watched him last night, big fan, Now,

did you watch those routes? He thought? Oh he's ros heck, But vertically what he can give you and then he can find the ball a couple of times when the tape I was watching special teams demon him in the fourth round. Yeah, fourth round. He's a four year captain on special teams. You just don't, Okay, but four you're gonna draft him in the fourth draft him in the fourth round just on special teams. No. I think he's going to grow as a receiver. I mean, when you

have that size, you have that speed. What he did vertically, I think that he's going to grow into it. Well, I thought he struggled running round to the Dane he did. Oh he's raw. He is raw, but he looks like he's all over the play with his arms and it's kind of there's no question, like he's running against the wind all the time. Kenny Galladay for Northern Illinois. He's another one. I like them four yea. No, how about how about Jamal Williams from BYU like that? I like

that betteran pum free um. I think the senior Bowl guy right, yeah, you know, you twisted my arm and tell me who's the Jordan Howard of this draft. I would point to him. Jamal Jamal Williams is a hell of a football player from b YU running back. I was I was asking people about him. They're like, got,

you're a little late on him. Brought us Sorry, Scout's just like to say that though, like, oh they knew that I'm just a jack You give him like a guy nobody's ever heard of from like Kentucky, Western State, and they're like you like you those safeties? He is safeties? Do anything for you? Where do you have Jackson at Jackson at fourth? Fifth? Um? Yeah? What about Woods? I have a third fourth on him? Davior Woods? Yeah, can't you gotta you gotta give people some context here. I'm sorry,

well By Hill from Michigan. Did you like him? I had him in the fourth? Yeah, I get him three or four? I like, yeah, quite a bad. I didn't feel like better peppers. You're like, I'm better in peppers. Where you have peppers on the board? Fourth round? Wow, that's another. I don't know where to play him. That's a first round guy that I'm serious. I'm trying to think of where the good spot is to play him. Yeah, I'll be wrong. I'm okay, I'm big guy. I'll admitted

if I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Jacob wants to know what's more likely at twenty eight Adore Jackson, where can we go over this? Or Ties Bowser? He was interested in Tias Bowser. Bowser was here, Bowser visited. I don't know if he was an official thirty, but he took a photo in an AT and T stadium. Yeah, okay, I think that to me, I think there's some interest in him as an edge rusher, but I and I think it's Marinelli driven and but I don't think they would

take him at twenty eight. I tend to agree he's scary, like he's not. I'm not saying don't let him drop, let him rush. Whatever you do, let him rush. Don't be a drop linebacker guy. He reminds me of what I and I don't mean like off field, but he reminds me of how I felt about Randy Gregory in the sense that like, I don't think this scheme is the one that he's meant to play in. I think ideally in a three to four yea in a four to three, he might be better as a stand up

off ball linebacker. Yeah, which you don't. I'm not drafting that at twenty eight because he's kind of like if you don't get his son Reddick early, he might be that guy. The next guy. Yeah, you know, it's kind of like Christian McCaffrey and Chritis, Samuel A Son Reddick, you don't get him early. Tis Balser might be your I think the best next stand up. This gonna sound terrible,

not terrible, but maybe people like it. What if you talk about if you talk about Reddick and the next guy that could stand up and rush as a linebacker, I'd sure look at what for the Cowboys? But you're yeah, but what would primarily play in for you? Yeah, he'd play in. But I'm saying if you were looking for a guy, the guy that's most productive standing up rush and the next guy to me is what. Oh, I definitely agree I Bowser. I just use everybody there confuse

a little a little bit, but that's okay. I just the tweeters. These tweeter guys scare me. Bowser's number sixty six on my board overall. Um, and that's going to be a lot lower than he goes. But I have questions about the football awareness. Um. Oh yeah, I mean I think as a rookie, he's a nickel rusher, he's a sub package guy. He's not an every down player. He watched the Louisville film though. Oh he can. He's

got juice, he can create problem. He's six two two fifty and he's a four to sixth athlete one five split. It's there number. What Oh I'm thinking why? Yeah, I mean Bowser. I mean I have, like I said at sixty six overall, Okay, I'm sorry. I have just a confidence that Watt can play end on a regular basis, like, oh, they got him listed as an end here, he's gonna be on their board as a defensive six to four and a half way is I mean he's he's bigger.

I mean, I think he's I'm not gonna put you on the spot But did you have a comparison for Bowser or did you you just had top guys? Yeah, I didn't. Okay, I didn't have one for him. Okay, I'm sorry. I don't mean to put you on the spotlight. I hate to do that because I well you did. Yeah, my bed should do it the break Brian, Hello, Yes, well he spells his with an eye. We talked about talked about this last week with the talk of Christian

McCaffrey going to Phlipadelphia. But what player would you least want to see an NFC East rival draft. Now we'll limit it to the first round because it's just easier that way. This is easy for me McCaffrey to Philly specifically, or any of them, well, to Philly specifically, because that's where I think it most likelihood, highest likelihood of happening. But that'd scare the heck out of me. I find the Cowboys. You're worry about one of those wide receivers

sliding into Philly. Davis Williams Ross one of those guys. I want to say scare me, But obviously William Williams would bug me out a little bit. I mean, I think he's really good. Yeah, I'm not sure they do that though with I mean they just signed Elshan Jeffrey and Tory Smith and those are one year deal. They're basically one year deals. I get it, But you're really gonna go with another I mean they still have Oh, they'll bust some receivers there, they will bust George Matthews,

they will bust. Yeah, but are you still gonna take another receiver when you have I understand you want to help out sure young quarterback, and that's why wide receivers definitely possibility, but I think it's a much higher possibility. And second or third round, how about one of these tight ends? How about like Howard r and Joku going and the Giants and Joku to the Giants scares the Yeah, that's that's a good one. I don't like that one

a little bit. Um. I told you McMillan playing to me, and I know this is there were a couple of linebackers you had in the in the second round in that trap to the Giants. What about my first round pick for the Giants, Mahomes? How would you feel about that? I like Mahomes so way. It's scary if you're the Cowboys, seem but you're telling me that Mahomes is not going to play for a year or that's why? Well, I mean I think the future, Yeah, I like. But hopefully

i'll be lik in Costa Rica. Yeah, you know, retired when that happened, and Brian's gonna take me with him. I won't have to worry about this. Yeah, three years from somebody to edit my work in Costa Rica our bar newsletter. You can come down to visit this without the draft parted down the Yeah, exactly, can't you come on down exactly. But yeah, I I you know what, I would worry but as Foster, could Foster end up in one of these places? I think so? Yeah, Reuben Foster? Yeah,

oh yeah, see that's that's another one. Billy specifically, yeah, Washington, Yeah, seventeen seventeen. He he hurts people, that Foster. The thing is is why he's falling as he also hurts himself. Yeah. Yeah, I really question whether that style can hold up for sixteen games. I mean, he's just he's a violent guy. And that's why you love I ask you this. She worry about how about this? Since she was talking about sliders and I know we'll get on here. That's fine

because we got to get to tell me more. Worried about Cook going to one of these teams? Yeah, and too, okause you talked about McCaffrey at fourteen, but could it be Cook at fourteen? Could it be at twenty three? Could it be going to the Giants? Do you think? I mean, I know that what's his name, fat Rob caught on in Washington last year, but I don't think that would stop him from drafting Calvin Cook. I shouldn't. Yeah, yeah, I think definitely I think he's in play as well

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Look forward to it. Just real quickly we talked about the draft being a couple of weeks away. We're gonna have three days of coverage from pick one to pick two fifty two. We will partner up with our guys, our buddies, our draft friends from one oh five three the Fan, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner, so just promise to have you all the nuts and bolts to the draft analysis of every pick. We'll have special guests that will come in and be a part of that as well. David,

you'll be in as well. I know you've got a lot of things you have to do covering week here Thursday, and I'll be coming in and out. So but we we have got you covered for all things in NFL Draft. You know. All you have to do is we'll be on the app, will be you know, on the website. We will we will have this thing covered all across DFW, on the radio waves and all across the world. On the end, excited about this. This is my favorite time of the year. And then we all work so hard

to to provide your draft coverage. So trust me, you don't need to be watching the NFL network or ESPN. You need to be focused in on what we're doing because we'll get you home. We'll get you there, all right, David. I always like this. Tell me more, guys, Tell me more about Georgia receiver Isaiah McKenzie. I like him speedy, speedy, really speedy, really speedy on your size, yeah, five seven by five, and you watch him at Georgia. A lot of jet sweeps and it's how they, you know, get

the ball in his hands. They do. I think he's a he's kind of the ideal bottom of the roster receiver, uh, you know, because he gonna help you on special teams as a return man and then as a fourth or fifth receiver. Is you know, he can be a home run threat at times. Absolutely. I worry about the fumbles. He fumbled a lot. I think he fumbled once every

like twelve touches or something. On offense. They got a guy here that there's just the same and just I'm looking I'm looking for a lucky replacement, and you're just describing the same guy. Well, they do. And this guy's faster. This guy's much faster. You you watch they do. Yeah, he's one of those guys where ball is in his hand and he's four yards up the field before anybody ever reacts to him. He's that quick and he's explosive. They try and do things with him down the field.

He's better inside, believe it or not, catching things routes inside than he is when they go down the field. They've tried to throw, catch and run. They try to throw him some stuff where he does fades and things like that and downfield red zone that's not his bag. And Dane's right, they'll they'll run a reverse and they'll flip it to him and let him come the other way. Do a lot of misdirection stuff with him though, but he is very explosive. This is delightful news because they

don't need a guy who goes down the field. Yeah, he's at the record Georgia record with five punt returns for a touchdown. Bring him on, three years, six seventh round. Yeah right, he's right into the end of the jet. It's traits that you know when you get down the end, you're looking for trades. He lacks the height, but he has the explosiveness. A guy that was reportedly a visit tell me more about Colorado's safety, Tedrick Thompson. I liked him a lot better when I studied in during the fall.

I saw him, you know, live, watching Colorado games. Then I saw one or two of his tapes in the fall. Then I watched him in the spring, and I didn't love him as much. I knew he wasn't a great tackler, not he wasn't very good and run support. Yeah, but in verse the pass he had a lot of production. I had over twenty passes defended as a senior. And he has some range, has some ball skills, but I don't know. I just I didn't like him nearly as

much as I did as I thought I was. There's a reason why you were on this show because you exactly described the player and when you watch him on tape, and I'm surprised he would be one of those guys that I would throw my pin if he was picked, you know, because I did not really like the player at all, and I didn't think he reacted very quickly. I didn't think he I thought he went low as a tackler. I didn't think he took very good angles. You know when he was going, he'll miss tackles on

you now. Too much hesitation in his game, you know, he hesitates, he doesn't go and get the football. I think there's other safeties in this draft, like the kid from Louisiana Tech Woods that that is a better player. And I was surprised that he visit here. You know, I watched the mission game. I thought he misplayed a ball there. It doesn't get off blocks well. He didn't force the run, well, it doesn't turn well. There's a

lot of things he doesn't do well. And so when I saw saw that his name was mentioned as a as a thirty visit guy, I was a little surprised and I wanted to go back and watch the tape and I did, and in danger right, the tape doesn't lie. That's what he is. What round you have him? I had him in this fifth round. Yeah, I'm with you. I wasn't. I wasn't. I just was kind of putting him there, thinking, Okay, I need to go back and do this guy. But if he got picked for the Cowboys,

I hope he proves me wrong. But he's I didn't think he was a great player. I thought they're better. Safety's on the board, Ken, if you when you got some time, clip these last two minutes out. So when Tedrick is interviewed, when, no, when he's our pick, yeah, lay this back. Oh no he's see her. No, No, he's a visit. I mean he was a visit. He pick one thirty five. Yeah, you know, one thirty three. If he's the guy, then I then I miswatched the tape, and you know, but that's part of it tell me

more about West Georgia edge rusher Dylan Donahue. He's got an interesting backstory. His dad played in the NFL, yeah, way back when Atlanta. I believe. Um, I love the bloodlines. But this is a guy who got in some trouble, who grew up in Montana, gotten a little bit of trouble, didn't go to that top school, kind of bounced around a little bit, ends up a division to West Georgia. And I tell you, the last two years he's been outstanding. I think twenty five and a half sacks the last

two years combined. Uh. Yeah, he played or he tested fairly well at the at the combine except for one area's arm length. Yeah, I was shocked. I mean, he is a big guy with short arms, with tiny arms rex arms, and so I think that's that's a big reason why he'll slip a little bit on Day three. But he's draftable a player later on that you know, you kind of take a take a flyer on when you watch, when you watch the tape, it's he's clearly

the best player on the field. I mean, and that's in this and you wouldn't you say he's going against dentists and lawyer. Yeah, he's going well, he's probably going against guys that are I would I would say he's going against some farmers and ranchers and guys like that. But he is a He's a guy that when you watch him play, you talk about relentless and the and the way. And I started tweeting about him as kind of like a kind of like my who's your pet

cat guy? He was like my initially my pet cat guy. And and then and then what happens, people on Twitter picked it up, and then the school picked it up, so then I was now involved. Oh yeah, Brian Noseboy's talking about But I saw a guy that had tremendous passion for the game and he never stops, and the playing speed, the initial quickness, all that stuff, and he is gonna win. I mean, these are the games I watched him against Kataba Miles and Delta State. That's what

I'm saying. Yeah, So, hey, Jerry Rice with the school at you know, Mississippi Valley, he's got an okay job to NFLPA Collegial p See. I didn't see that. I didn't. Yeah, I just think, like somebody, he's gonna be one of those guys were watching preseason games and it's to be late in the game and he's gonna come up with a sack and everybody's gonna go, oh, what about this guy?

What about Wow? Look at this gay. Maybe he'll have two or three sacks or two and a half sacks in the preseason and you're thinking, Wow, where did this guy come from? I agree with the last few words of my report on him. He competes with a fire in his belly and the skill set to push for a backup. Yeah. He's disruptive and competitive and that's that's the best best thing. I mean, he doesn't looking for in day three. He and my notes sort of doesn't lose the football. He knows where it is. He's got

the bloodline you're talking about. We're round Yeah, where can I get him? I stuck him in the sixth That's where I've got him. Sixth round grade, because you know, I'm watching the guy in again. If the measurables are it's it's six two and a half to forty eight. But he will, he's gonna he's gonna be on somebody's team. It's gonna be the preseason and you're gonna be watching games and people are gonna be tweeting at us. You guys talked about this guy and he's gonna have a

sack for the Falcons. Tommy Dimitrov is gonna bring him in as a free agent and he's gonna have a sack for the Falcons, a couple of them. But you know you've heard him first here, all right, I going Donahue real real quickly. I got two Brugler specials. I'm excited about time we got at time we got. Yeah, Dane, tell me more about wake Forest corner. Brad Watson, Uh, local guy, right or he's around here's from He's around

Texas somewhere, believe so maybe it's closer to Austin. I can't remember, but uh, he kind of you know, he was under Kevin Johns. Remember Kevin Johnson now the Texan stiff rounder. He was under Kevin Johnson's wing. Uh, and then he kind of took over as the top corner when Kevin Johnson left Round Rock. Okay, Yeah, yeah, Austin area there go. Uh And he had a really good junior year and then I kind of put him on

the NFL map and the senior year Okay. He just doesn't have that distinguishing trait that you kind of you point to. You know, he's not the biggest guy, not the fastest guy. Yeah. Uh. You know the ball skills where I think were very good. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't see uh in this loaded corner class. I don't see a distinguishing trait with him that's going to make me really go. You know, pe a non combined guy.

He was not invited. I don't believe he was. Yeah, okay, so I remember this about this guy, and you watch him play, and Dane absolutely is right about him. And you see him play and one of the things he was able to do when he had to tackle, I thought I thought he did that. I thought he was a wrap up tackling guy. The problem is, you see a lot of balls go his direction and he's just missing the ball. So he doesn't play with a burst. He really doesn't have much quickness and I don't think

he has really good catchup speed either. But you see him try and play off hand. Eddie's in his and here we are. I'm I'm praising Tabor, you know, at six one. But Tabor's making plays. But you see his hand off hand and it's just and the guy makes a catch and goes out of bounce. He's that type of guy. I didn't see a good I didn't see a great finisher, that's the thing. And I think the lack of quickness and the lack of a burst hurts him in coverage when he's trying to close on the football,

but he will tackle. His junior year really put him on the map. He had eighteen passes defendant and as a senior it declined. It was like eight. Yeah, so I mean, big drop off there. I senior, you're kind of disappointed and probably not gonna get him Dross. I didn't know about the eighteen breakups, but but I know I know the fact that when you watch him today, I mean I was just like, oh man, he's there. He missed it. You know that that was a lot

of his game, a lot of his game really quickly. Yeah, tell me more about Louisiana Lafayette running back Elijah McGuire. Like him, He's that's what I want to hear. He's want to hear a good review. He's kind of like the Dixon of this draft to me. He's got a similar skill set Louisiana kids, Yeah, Louisiana Tech. But his ability to catch them all out the backfield. I think that's his best trade. It is his best trade. I agree, Yeah,

the problem he has real quick. If I could go ahead, I don't think he could play sideways, and they play him sideways. And I mean, if you remember, if you listen to talk about DeMarco Murray, it shot gun in hand and play sideways. I don't think that's his game. I think he's a go downhill guy. I think it's like we talked about the Louisiana Tech kid that's go down hill, make people be physical. But his best trade

is catching the football. He just got a great feel for how to work himself open, run a route, catch a ball, and then go up the field. One hundred and twenty nine catches over his career, the schools all time leader in all purpose yards. I mean he is an offensive weapon for him, he was the last four years. So I think he is a guy you can keep on the field for you know, third downs. Yeah, and he can help you with Again, the best thing he

does is catching the ball out of the backfield. That body, control of the hands, It reminds me a lot of kennethics and then you can get him later in the draft this year. Yeah, I better think you got don't play him sideways, right, let him go downhill. Sounds like a perfect compliment for what they got here. Well, i'll tell you what though, he's got that ability because the

body type looks good too. I mean his body. Mean he's standing up there, I mean he's But I just don't see a guy that's a great creator unless he gets the ball in his hands receiving its fifth sixth round. Yeah, I have a six seventh on him just because it's running back classes ridiculous. But I think anywhere on day three kind of feel comfortable with him. The trait you would you would trade, you would take him off the board on or take not take him up, but draft

him on. Is the receiving ability. Yeah, that's size and receiving. That's what distinguishes him from other anybody else. That's right. One last thing on him. He was the offensive MVP at the East West Shrine Game. Received a late invite for the Senior Bowl. But client, yeah, I like him, get him that. I think we got three guys on the list that bring bring them on board. McCay. Oh, you're looking for late. When you're looking for these names late late, look for traits. Look for traits. That's what

we'll tell you when the guys that get drafted. Okay, fourteen days, fourteen days. I want to thank you everyone. Want to thank Dane Burglar, David Helm and Kink Garret someone. Thank you guys out there for making us a part of your day, your evening, whenever you're listening to us. We appreciate all of you. We will be back next Thursday more of the draft shows, so you guys have a great week. Thank Karl. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.