Draft Day LIVE - Day 2

I'm Brian brought us along with my trusted scouts from the Draft Show, David Hellman and Dane Brugler from CBS Sports King Mock Draft as they like to call the man. Congratulations by the way, on that good first day, it wasn't keep his going. Absolutely, let's keep it going and towas Yeah, to join the party is a man who has I have a new face. Well, he's no stranger, No strangers the Draft Show and everybody understands and those the great Jeff Kavanaugh from one oh five three The Fan, Ah,

it's still honor a privilege and sound effects sounded great. Yeah, I thought about you earlier, Jeffrey, because I took the Jerrymobile to the airport to get Byron Jones. And the last time I was on the Jerrymobile was with you. Did I make that awkward for you? I remember that. No, it was great. We had some beer with Jerry and those zero degree weather in Indianapolis time the boss offers you cole beer. You have a beer. Everybody everybody else was ready to get up and go. If a billionaire

offers you a beer, you take a beer. Yeah. I took it. What are you gonna do? Yeah? I was gonna ask for another one, Yolo. Well you had to come back in and scout. Yeah. Yeah. We had a lot going on that day. So uh, just a little background with Jeff Kavanaugh. He and Kevin Turner who will be on a little bit later on as Dave and Dane have to go do other things for the draft.

This is one of my scouting partners as well. This man is on the show, as I told you, one O five three from ten to three every day just and he loves the NFL Draft. This is the second season he's been with us and with me every night that we could watch tape. This man's scene over two hundred players. He knows this draft backwards and forward. He will bring the same type of knowledge that Dane and David all of us have. Uh, it's gonna be a

spirited conversation tonight. We'll get into a lot of different areas. Like last night, we talked about various teams where they could fall with picks, you know, trying to get a little bit of idea where they might fit and where if they fit in relation to the Cowboys as well. And last night we saw guys Jerry Jones and the group sweated a pick and they they were initially we

had done some mocks. We talked about cornerbacks Dane, and you know, they end up getting Byron Jones after you know, maybe feeling like that they had to go up and and uh and do that. But by just sitting right there, they were able to nab the player they want him. Yeah, And we saw the on the war room cam how excited they were when that uh twenty six pick came in the Ravens and it was not Byron Jones and

so that they knew they got their guy. And so we talked about all the different scenarios about maybe trading up. Is that what you have to do, and that's what we did in our scenario in our seven round mock Cowboys decided to wait hey, and it worked out perfectly. So, you know, great job by by those guys not to get spooked and trade up, give up draft picks, stayed put, got their guy Byron Jones. I love the fit here in Dallas. I love the what he does for the

cornerback depth. And so you have to ride that momentum now in the day two and with sixty, obviously we're gonna wait a while before they pick. Are they gonna get that itchy trigger finger again or in you know, like they didn't do yesterday, or you know, are they gonna stay at sixty wait for their guy. It's gonna be interesting. Yeah, And Jeff, you you're a guy that has us no secret listening to you on one oh five three and just all the interaction I've had with you.

Big fan of there's running backs myself, aren't we all? Yeah? A big fan of the running backs. Tevin Coleman still on the board. One of my personal favorites. Duke Johnson is a guy that you've championed from the word go. And so if the Cowboys are looking at a running back, do you feel like it though, that they can wait till sixty, or do you feel like that they're going to have to make a small move to maybe go up and get a guy, like if Duke Johnson was

available your personal favorite. I think I heard I think it was Steven today and he was talking about how they really sweated it out last night and they had to really sit there and they're like, Okay, we're getting close. Do we need to move? How are we gonna do this?

And they sweated it out and they ended up with their guy, and he said that today they feel like it might be a little more relaxed, sorry, and like there may be you know, we're just gonna sit there and wait and maybe we'll have two or three guys to choose for them in the second and the third round. And I think that there's enough guys left, maybe five or six different guys that I would really like to pick at sixty that are on the board right now.

And if they don't start falling off, or if they start falling off, you know, you just watch your pool of guys start to dwindle, and if it starts getting to the danger zone, then I would think about it. But for now. I mean as long as you're sitting there with what Duke and Coleman and a Jay and Yelden and then linebackers that you really like, Yes, like it's sixty for now. I think you feel really good and you can just sort of let this happen and

see what's going to fall into your lap. If all of your guys start bam bam bam, there they go, then I might start thinking about it. But I think you go into this just kind of like, yeah, let's just see, let's just see what comes to us. Yeah, and Dave, I've kind of listed you as my numbers man, my trade guy, and you know, we had only a couple of trades yesterday, Yeah, and small trade rising Dane was talking about. Yeah, they were whimpy baby trades. They

were like two spots, three spots. But I think crazy. But you feel like though that maybe you know going into this that we might see a little bit more. I think Jerry Jones was talking about more third round. He's hoping for some craziness. But I think we'll definitely, I think we'll see some stuff tonight. I don't know if i'll see it from the Cowboys. I'm very interesting.

We talked about this on our show this morning, our first Round wrap up show, is that, you know, the lateness of these Cowboys picks is you're kind of unless you're especially now that you're you know, your big pick, your first round pick has gone, you're valuable, your most valuable pick, you know, kind of tied in terms of what you can do with picks from this year's I mean, you know, if you're trying to trade into the thirties,

I just don't know if I see it. Yeah, we think that earlier today trying to get up to Oakland, and you know, because we were trying to stay ahead and again I was looking at running back, you know, and they could go defensive end. We'll get into about some of the names that are left on this board, but if you were to go up and you know, maybe try and get a running back, yeah, it get ahead of Jacksonville and Jacksonville being at thirty six. That seems to trust to Nard Robinson. I don't think so.

I don't think so. I think And again we'll get into this stuff. Jeff actually took the words right out of my mouth. Is that, you know, if you try to read between the lines of what the Joneses were saying last night and today. Uh, you know, why don't they feel like they're gonna have to sweat tonight? It

makes you think they've got names. They've got a name, They've got guys that they like that they feel confident that they feel differently about, you know, And Duke Johnson springs to mind immediately because he's an undersize running back that you know a lot of people think to see him as a possibility in the third round. So you know, if that's your guy and you you feel COMI taking him at sixty, you probably feel pretty good that nobody

else is really thinking along those lines. Yeah, And you know that's the again, they they have some confidence, You're right, Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett. They've they've set their board, and so they have an idea of already where they might want to go, in what direction they might want to go when we you're seeing us all right now, the way this is going to work tonight, there's nothing

wrong with the world. There's nothing wrong with the word. Yeah, we we will go immediately him where we're talking here our command position here at Valley Ranch at the SWBC Morgan Studios. We will once that they show the war room cam available to us. Uh, we will will go immediately there. You'll get to see all the action. You'll get to see the interaction that the scouts, the coaches, and then also Jerry and Stephen Jones, will McClay all those folks. So yeah, we we we we we keep

an eye on that. Hopefully tonight it doesn't take him an hour now, Yeah, take them exactly. There was there was a lot of discussion in that room that they didn't want us to see. So once that happens, they'll flip that that paper out of the way and then we'll go right in there. Kent Garrison is running the show tonight. He is uh keeping us all for him. And when the commissioner goes to well tonight, it won't

be the Commissioner's commissioner doesn't do the second round. So whoever, Gene Washington, I think as you normally does it, the great Darren Woodson. Yeah, well they'll they'll happen, boys, Yeah, the second as soon as the representative goes to the podium to announce to pick, we'll get us online and we'll know exactly who is going to be selected there, Laurence Skill helping out tonight, and then Douglas as well. So everybody's on hand tonight to try and bring this

coverage you. Let's get into some of the names, Dane and I want to start with you about some of these names, and we focus on the running backs, but let's focus on some of the other other options that the Cowboys and some of these other teams might have as we're going along here tonight here in the second round. Well, I think we start with Randy Gregory, a player we thought would be off the board yesterday in the first round.

There myself a top ten talent, but we know about the off field issues, and at some point he becomes worth the risk where you're going to take him, and I would imagine that's somewhere in the early stages of round two. But again, who knows. You know, a lot of these teams could have Randy Gregory off the board.

He could fall to sixty. Who knows. Royal Greenbeckham another character guy that we've talked about out not necessarily for the Cowboys, but a guy that's immensely talented, who has his issues and you know he's gonna be off the board probably here in the early second round. So there's a lot of talent, and this is where you can

find good value. Because we talked about it before, Guys you get maybe at pick fifteen in this draft, not so different than the guy you're gonna get a thirty five, right, So that talent level just really it really levels off, and so this second round we're gonna see a lot of talented players get drafted, which, again, to go back to what Stephen said, you know, the first twenty five to thirty guys probably for the most part, with a

few exceptions, considered on a pretty similar level. But this is where you know, you start to see some varying opinions and big differences of opinion about where a guy should go. Yeah, and Jeff, you know, you've got your own board there that you put up on one oh five three, and I believe it's about one hundred and fifty one players. Public saw it, public saw it exposed. There's a real problem. We try to keep it under wraps.

It's out there. Okay, anybody on that board that you know that you would like to talk about again, I brought up Duke Johnson and guys like that, but anybody else you see could could be a good value for somebody. Uh yeah, I think that the linebackers are becoming pretty popular right about this point. Eric Kendricks, I thought could have gone yesterday and nobody would have been really surprised. The UCLA linebacker a guy but the Cowboys had visit.

But Ardrick McKinney, I think that becomes a guy to watch. And my guy, Carl Davis at defensive tackle, I think is going to be a really good player for somebody, whether you wanted to play the one or the three. I thought, you know, at three hundred twenty pounds at Iowa. I thought his ability to just sort of move offensive lineman and get off blocks, and the way he could play the run and penetrate a little bit. That's one of the guys that I really like in this round.

And so yeah, I think that I think we got a bunch of real good football players that are getting ready to go. Here, Dane, As you look at your board and some of the names better offensive players earlier or better defensive players, and maybe how it will fall towards the Cowboys, I'd probably lean defense. Um, you look at best available here, Randy Gregory h O, Diggy Zooa, Landon Collins, a safety, Eric Kendricks, Eric Rowe, Ronald Darby,

so Eli Harold. There's a lot of good players here, and then I think there's a good chance we see these big guys mentioned Carl Davis, Eddie Goldman at some point here, Grady Jerry. I think we could see him go the second round. Uh, these big guys. You can find places for these big guys. I think they're gonna go quickly. Is Jordan Phillips two or three? Yeah, I mean he's talking about big guys. He's definitely his stuff's more medical and more can you trust him on the field,

So we could definitely see him second round. I saw him get blocked, single blocked a lot, you know. I mean that, Yeah, that's there's well those guys that you see it, and I remember some of those games were watching where he's penetrating up the field tackle for loss a couple of times. You're like, okay, I get it, I see it. And then you go long stretches in the game where he's not doing anything and that that's problematic to me, and especially you get a big guy inside.

You know, Carl Davis is a different cat when it comes to that movement and stuff like that. You know, at least you see the effort and the desire to get off blocks and to get down the line of scrimmage. So you saw him mocked to the Cowboys as recently as like within the last two weeks. Well, another guy like which is what I mean at twenty seven right,

which come come hither, come come here? Oh Diggeza was another one that everybody had is you know, but with still with you when you're talking about defensive ends that are still on the board, Gregory. You know, Clark is a guy Michigan. We've talked about him a ton, you know, and Clark who you know I'm talking about, Dave, don't Clark, don't act like you know who you're I'm talking about.

Don't act like I don't know. Yeah, exactly like you write this guy love letters and I do spare time and look in the second round, I know last night was it isn't like my player. I don't even like Listen, his players got a rough patch back there somewhere, but his players go, it's not even about whether he's a good player, it's the character concerns. And then number two it's just that you won't shut up about the guy. But who did they draft yesterday? Great guy? Right guy?

Great guy out? Captain America? If you captain American has to have somebody to battle again. What if you just draft two? What if you try to get like an Avengers going here like two good guys? Yeah, but anybody can lead a really nice people. You know, sound challenge my coaching stuff. I like to challenge my leaders. I mean, there's there's some knuckleheads back there, regardless of who you draft. I mean there's a handful of them already. Well, go ahead.

Last night, we it was a little more predictable. We didn't have those big trades. It was at some people even called a boring. It wasn't boring, But I understand people saying it wasn't. It wasn't as exciting as I was hoping for it to be. And I mean a lot of that's the movement. We didn't see trade, we didn't see no, absolutely know, it wasn't that there wasn't too many shockers in the second round. I think we're

going to see some shocking picks. I really do. I think we're going to see you see you think re picks. I mean, but you talked about sixteen. That's what I'm gonna say is somebody's trash is another person's treasure, so to speak, cliche man, I mean whatever, you get my point. That's what garage sales are all about. Travis Frederick was seen as a third rounder by a lot of people. Yeah, and you can't call it a reach, but people value

players differently. Let me ask you this second round, a guy who I don't think we've said his name yet, Mario Edwards Junior. Is that too early for a team to take him? Because I think two years ago when we're watching takes man, we're watching the first round flashing back and we're watching fifteen for Florida State whip these guys. Yea. Then you watch the what should we say, larger version of him this year. Yeah, that doesn't move so good.

That's not that's not that's doing him a disservice. He was bigger, big boy, and a little slower maybe, and all of a sudden he looks like what a fourth or fifth round pick. I love the part where do you put him? I love the part of the combine where it's like, yeah, like what happened Gry's like, no, I just hate a lot of food. He was up front about it. He said I had an eating problem. Eating problem. I mean he ad hanging out with Jamison. They eat the krab legs, you know, without butter. You

gotta skip the butter. Now is that gonna change once? Once he's earning these big contracts, if you can afford more food. Let me tell you what if you're if you're gonna do the homework and you're gonna you're gonna go. Two years ago, you talked all the scouts. Scouts, you're like, you know, they everybody knows the player that was two years this this guy now is kind of like but he's lost weight, he's slimmed down. We've talked about that. You like him at sixty? Who I'm trying? Are you

upset at sixty? No? If I'm not, but I okay, it's got Coleman there. He's not your first choice. That's im same, He's not my first choice. Would you take him at sixty if your best options were not there? If you're best out, yeah, let's say you're a running backs gone and uh, you know mckenney's not there. Okay, Kendrick's gone. Nys Gondricks is going before or forty five, he's not there. Coleman's gone, Coleman is definitely gone. Duke Johnson gone. Duke Johnson goes at fifty nine, and you

break the window. Oh what are we doing with Duke at fifty nine? We're moving up a spot. I'm saying, bottom line, we've talked about a lot of names in the last ten minutes. I feel pretty good one of those names is going to be there. Yes, I agree, And so I don't think there's a need to move around unless there's a guy that they really really want. But what if, what if would you move up? You get Aunty? If Duke's there at fifty eight and you're not cat mean, I mean, who's who picks in front

of him? Who else is there? Because I put it, I put Baltimore, Carolina depends on that running back run. Yeah, I who else is there? Arizona and Detroit picking the mid fifties. Everybody knows what Coleman like. If you say Coleman's gone, Yeldon's gone. And now we're getting to fifty eight and Duke is sitting there. Yeah, And maybe I don't trust a j with the knee. Now do I start to think about it? Like I think that's where you start to get nervous if your linebackers are gone too.

Now it's like, okay, what's it? Custom up couple spots. Let me feel really good that we're starting. That passed quickly. Willie Brown as you can see from the Raiders, and Dwight Stevenson from the Miami Dolphins. And to my right on the end with the cowboy hat, Mel Blue of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and next to him number twelve, Jim Kelly of the Buffalo bill and for you Chicago, the great linebacker Dick Buckets. So here we go with round two.

You ready, the Tennessee Titans are now on the clock. Okay, Commissioner, thank you very much. Round starts at six o six, and here we go. The picks will be seven minutes as opposed to ten, so we'll be coming a little bit faster and more often. So we know this phone has been buzzing off the hook at the Tennessee Titans. Uh that It's amazing how we switched to this format where it's first round one day, second third rounds the

next day. The third day's fourth through seven. That format really made that pick number thirty three a lot more valuable, and so I think it would not shock me at all. We see a trade here a team that wants to get up to thirty three to make sure they get

their guy, kind of like the Cowboys last year. Well, I think I think this is what I'm gonna say my own experience, I think it's gonna be very difficult to get in the early part of this round, just me personally, and just as I mentioned that Brian brought us. You don't know every You aren't talking to the mock draft king of the world here, wiz it. Yeah, that's okay, New York Giants. Okay, New York Football Giants. There you go to me though, this is this is where now

you're right, dude, good job there. I was. My experience was when you had had a night to sit on the draft. When you had a night, the first ten picks were very difficult. People had their mind in their mind what they wanted to who they wanted to take. You had to really pride them off that pick. I felt like though, that it was gonna be uh that at least we were gonna go through ten picks before. But here, You're right, the Giants appear to be on the clock right now, already off to a more surprising

start than last. Yeah, let's talk about the Letts forty to thirty three. And in my mock draft, my second round mock draft, I had them taking land In Collins. And so that's a player that if I'm sitting at forty and I want a safety, I know I better go up and get him because he might not last a forty for me. So Landon Collins, I think, is a player to watch right here. Does Gregory appeal to them? You think? I think the character party is really hard for them. They're one of these teams. It's not a

big big on charc they're really big on character. Talent wise. Yeah, Tom Coughlin doesn't strike me as a guy will to put up with a lot of Let's talk about their needs. Safety Danes hit it right on the head, Dan, the safety being number one. They took the offensive lineman last night, and Flowers defensive end a possibility here and also as well tight end. Uh Max Williams here maybe something like that to think about, who what what? I just wonder who else who would be trading up for get in

front of everybody. Coins is this sort of guy. That's what makes sense is for landing Collins. Uh tennis or the Giants gave up obviously the fortieth pick overall, their second round pick, also their fourth and their seventh. Okay, to get up. It's not too bad. So we're moving around on the sheets here, fourth and seventh. So let's see here filling in our sheets. That's gonna go to Tennessee. Oh wow? Yeah? And then also too, they lost they

did they lost Stevie Brown? Did they not? Well, it looks like here they lost Stevie Brown and Ontrell Roll. They don't. They're they've got they've got three safeties on the it has to be Collins then yeah, I mean they don't have a safety right now. And you said a seventh as well, Dane, Right, So that pick is U fourt round pick was pick one oh eight now goes to Tennessee and two forty five seven and the two forty five is the seven, so we will we

will mark that. But yeah, yeah, we've we've talked about the Giants needs. They went and addressed the offensive offensive lineman last night, safety defensive end, and then also tied end. Defensive tackle corner is also uh Stevie Brown is with the Texans and Nontrel Rolls with the Bears. Now, uh so they, um, I don't I know. Dane remembers Nat Burhee is a guy that they signed like in the tail end of the draft last year. It just doesn't seem like those other needs are something. You've got a

trade up seven or eight spots. I mean, you're trying to get up there, You're trying to get the safety. This is a guy that they need to start right away. Uh. And this is again I had Landon Collins to New York Giants in my second round mock at forty. Yeah, so I think it the need is there. I think the fit is there. The Giants just felt like they could not wait to forty to get their guy. Because again we've talked about it all year. If you don't

get your safety early, you're not getting your safety. So yeah, this this makes a lot of sense. Talk about though, what you see with Landon Collins as a player though, Dane or and also there, uh, Jeff, if he's a box guy, he's a strong safety. He's gonna come up and hit you, run a stout run defender. I love the breakdown skills. Um. I love he's just a missile coming downhill now in reverse. His instincts and pass coverage leave a lot to be desired. He needs some work there.

He just I don't think he trusts what he sees. He doesn't anticipate. It's like he has to see the play unfold before he's ready to react. What do you see? Yeah, I thought, just like for me, I hear about the guys before we start to watch them a lot of times, like some people have their boards out, and so I heard heard a lot about Landing Collins, and to hear people talk about him, you get, oh, is this man he can really cover? He can play center field and he can go side. I didn't see it at all.

That was not at all. I mean, I think if you're if you need a strong safety, sure, I think that that's a solid player. If you need a guy that's gonna cover, I don't think he's gonna help you a lot. I think the Giants if in fact this is the pick, If Landing Collins is pick at safety, I would really question his ability to cover. I thought Landing Collins, if you put him an outside linebacker. I thought he had a better chance of playing. Uh, let's go to the commissioner is going to the podium, or

let's see this man an announcement. It's somebody. Yeah, here we go. The Tennessee Titans have traded the thirty third pick to the New York Giants to announce the New York Giants selection. Please welcome from UCLA, the twenty fourth overall selection in the nineteen ninety eight draft by the Giants defensive bat Sean Williams, all right Chicago. With the thirty third pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Landing College defensive Here we go.

So Landing College, in fact is the pick. Uh yeah, and we've talked about that again. I don't see a real good covered guy. I see a downhill player, a guy that could play near the line of scrimmage. He's a physical tackler. You know, a lot of the Giants has. The Giants have always been a physical defensive team. In fact,

he can be that type of player. But again, in this day and age, where you have to play in coverage, where you have to play in space, I think that's a little bit of a of a stretch for him to have to do that, and you see the coverage limitations. Yeah, you guys are the tape gurus. Did they just did they just draft Barry Church that you know what, he's a better Burried Church. He's okay, Yeah, I mean, I mean that Barry Church doesn't cover well either. That's man.

You have to play Buried Church up front so he doesn't have to play in space. And then this is that I think this is a similar guy. Right last year, He's got his limitations, but yes, he's a serviceable he's a serviceable guy. Now, last year, DeMarco Murray against the Giants und twenty eight yards one hundred twenty one yards. He's still in the division. Giants need a guy that's

gonna be enforcer verse the run. The Cowboys are gonna probably gonna get a running back, if not today, early tomorrow, So they need a guy like this who can beat that enforcer versus the run. But again, don't expect much in coverage. But what he brings you versu the run is why they went up and got him. Yeah, okay, so Tampa Bay is now on the clock. We swing our attention to the Buccaneers drafted yesterday. Of course, Winston

the quarterback from Florida State. Any thoughts of what direction, Dan, I know you've had to do a lot of mock drafting stuff. Any thought of maybe where they might go with this porture pickle, let me get the needs if I could real quick quarterback, offensive tackle, defensive end, guard, center, wide receiver potentially as well. I'm looking at offensive tackle. You gotta protect your quarterback, you have to protect your investment. And this, this offensive line is a really, really trouble

area for the Bucks. And so there's still some talented tackles on the board. Jake Fisher Oregon right, Donovan Smith, Penn State, Clemings, TJ. Clemmings, that's who I I have Clemings. I have Clemmings as still on my board in the first round. And I and I'm now thinking that maybe there was some injury history here. There's something that I don't know about that that that that caused him not

to be picked. I think he's a first round tackle, and obviously he's gonna be clubbing if he's one of the guys if he is in fact selected here, you know, just outside the first round. So you know, is his rawness enough is I mean, is it enough to scare teams off that I think this isn't a lockdown guy for J. J. Clemings. I mean this Senior Bowl was really what did it for? I think for a lot of people, his struggles in that in that game, that week of practice I think really scared some people because

it did show how raw he still is. And he's only been playing the position for two years. He didn't been playing high school. He was a defensive end. Threw and three. Yeah, they moved dots and the Buccaneers moved Dotson over to the left tackle spot, so they might be looking for a right tackle here. Uh, this could have been I think Clemmings. If if in case, that's

my best? Who else to maybe some other offense? Donovan Smith at a Penn State and Jake Fisher I think if you're looking, I mean, Jake Fisher is the lighter player. You know. You see he's a former tight end. You see his ability to shuffle in his kickslide and pass pro. Donovan Smith's interesting because you see the talent on tape and but you just the efforts been questioned. He just feels like he should be he should be better. I

thought his Senior Bowl tape was actually pretty good. That's what's going to get him drafted higher than Clemmings potentially is the Senior Bowl. Yeah, you watch his his junior tape at Penn State, very up and down again the f that's something that Penn State coaches, you talk to them, not not someone that they talk very highly of when when you talk about the effort. So but you're absolutely right about the Senior Bowl. He went to the Senior

Bowl and made him It made himself some money. We do believe it's going to be an offensive tackle, whether it's uh Clemmings, Fisher Smith, one of those types of This is what we like because I constantly have the Dallas Cowboys in my head. Safety's an offensive lineman there. You take them up, pack them, pick them all that, all of them except the one tackle that we need to get later, but all the other ones. Pick them

right now. Second rounds a great time, Okay, commissioners going to the podium, this just makes it makes way too much sense. And get your quarterback and a guy who can protect them all right, can't please? Welcome from Purdue University a second round draft pick in the nineteen ninety six draft by the Buccaneers running back Michael Statue than all stocks It's down Bowl. In the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Donna than Smith. Penn State,

here we go Donovan Smith. So they we talked about the need for the offit to tackle the Buccaneers. If we look at their first two kneeds off the board, they went quarterback. Offit to tackle was the second one. So they go bang bang on their picks. You got a stud quarterback, got a good tackle, got a stud receiver, tight end with a lot of upside. Like another team that the Dallas Cowboys we'll see during the years. So Donovan Smith could be playing as your right tackle for

the Buccaneers. Assuming these guys are hits. That's a nice offense that they're building down all right. Next up on the clock will be the Oakland Raiders, unless there's some type of trade going on here. Reggie McKenzie, my former guy from the Green Bay Packers, likes to move around a little bit himself, so we'll see if the Raiders. In fact, we'll stand in there. Last night, we all felt really good about the selection with the wide receiver.

I still maintain it should have been Leonard Williams for whatever was. I'm a I'll be with you. Our guy Derek Car needs somebody to throw to him, and there's somebody awesome best player. But if you guy, but I agree about and you loved Car last year. I mean when we were doing radio and stuff together, you were a big fan of Car. We all had our guys Bortles, you know, the genius here had Bridgewater was his guy

smart man. So you know that's what I'm saying. Though, As far as the Raiders weapons defense, Reggie McKenzie, I was surprised he passed on Leonard Williams. I'm woying Reggie mckenzip point and what he likes. But still, you know you're right about getting your your quarterback weapons have to do it. Crabtree and uh Cooper will be a nice

twenty fifteen for the ring. Okay, if you look at their needs, wide receiver being the first one, they looking at a d E that can rush, and a DT rusher inside, maybe a guard tackle safety we talked about in another corner. There's not a d ND available that can rush. Is there is there? Maybe? Is there a Husker maybe I think doesn't take chances on those types things, would never take it care I'm thinking the old man was still live, they would. Well, he had been drafted,

probably has kids in charge. So yeah, I think going back to offensive line too. H Jake Fisher a player we mentioned, Yeah, boy, but he is in. But okay, we talked about getting your quarterback weapons. No, no, you're right, let's not tech. They're absolutely right. You're right. So I think that's uh, let's getting more weapons, Diggie Diggy, can't you see? That's what I'm thinking. Just get enough weapons that we're just gonna snap it and throw. Is this

too is too high? Well, we talked about him at twenty seven, I know, but they didn't take it. Is it? Is it too high Dane for Odiggie at thirty five? No? I mean he's a pass rusher, and there's pass rushers are a premium and so if you can get one here that you feel is starter material, absolutely not. It's not too early. Yeah, I just I just so too early for Eli Harold And how many teams do you think think he's a backer? And how many think he's an end? He got he put on a bunch of weight,

right he did. I mean he's he's a player. He's a work in progress obviously, And with going Khalil mac last year, having kind of that that rush end that can stand up, can put his hand on the ground, is Eli Harold just kind of the same thing, just a more rob version. You know, I'm not sure if if that's who they would like there or here here again, let's go through again that the needs that I said about the rush end, the defensive tackle rush end, you know,

and you mentioned also an offensive tackle. So we've talked about Odiggy, We've talked about We're okay, you were laughing. We were talking about Mario Edwards earlier, you know. I mean, well, and this is a player that uh, you know, Jason lockinfor came out and said he's gonna go somewhere between eleven and I remember that twenty years he said, expect I would take I personally would take the Nebraska guy

myself here if it was me. I mean I I this is where you wanted legitimate pass rushier, This is where I would take to know what you said you said? What did you say? You said pass rusher? You said pass Russia yea, I need a d they need a defensio and they went receiver first and wait defensive in Russia? What are they? What are they running in Oakland? Right now? I don't even know. Three to four it's a it's a new scheme. Well, let's see, it's Jack del Rio. So it's a three to four. Yeah, it took me

a three to four. Yeah, I want I want Randy Gregory and in a three four, if I'm picking him, I would rather have him standing. I mean, but is he repetitive? With Khalil Mac what's Khalil Max roll? There? He's a stand up outside guy right right, Well, he's in Jack del Rio scheme. Probably do a little bit of both. Well. With Mario Edwards, I do think you have a player that's versatile who just you have so

much talent there. If you can hone the talent, keep them away from some food the line, yeah, I mean you have something. Let's talk about him though, too, flexibility to play as an end. That's what I'm saying. That first play Nickel is a nickel rusher, move them inside and passing downs. Yeah, I think absolutely that's a that makes sense. But again, you have to feel comfortable with his eating habits, you know, is he gonna put the effort in? And this is a player we know about

the bloodlines. His dad was the Dallas Cowboy drafted him. I was on the staffed drafted him. How was he as an eater? He was a skinny cornerback. Corner maybe better metabolism. He was a real, real skinny quarterback. So how crazy would that be to draft the guy? Yeah, his dad played with guys who are still on this team. Yeah, weird, Yeah weird. I mean that is crazy. That is crazy. So we will see though, in fact, which way that

they the Oakland Raiders go here. And I think when we talk about these first ten picks of the second round, pass rushers are gonna be a premium and or blockers the big guys. And so far we saw the safety go first. But then, uh, you know, we saw the blocker. I'm sure we're gonna see some pass rushers here come off the board. Yeah, and that's again, Yeah, you're you're talking about a position where a lot of teams, it's like cornerbacks, team are looking for those that ability to

get guys on the ground. So let's see, we've talked about a bunch of different ones. Uh, it could very well be like I say, oh, Diggy, we're talking about the Nebraska kid. We've talked about Mario Edwards because of the position, flexibility and stuff like that that that you can do with him. So you know, again, I I'm with you though about the offensive lineman. I'm I'm trying to help car you know. I I've got the weapon on the outside. I think the receiver. Cooper, Yeah, may Cooper.

I'm just you know, there's a lot of different directions that the Raiders can go here. So you know, well we will uh soon find out the pick has been in. There's well, Mayo's already taking his coat off as I see on that, so he's he's about ready to roll up the sleeves and get going here for him, very very early for him to do this. But uh, the Raiders though closer to being better. REGI King, Oh, by the way, okay, where we go. The Commissioner's walking to

the podium, Oakland Raiders selection. Please welcome from Grambling State University. An undrafted free agent in nineteen sixty three. Raiders Hall of Fame cornerback Willie Brown, Willy Brown, thank you, I'm drinking sixty three, thank you very much. Thank you. Let me guess say, last year, I which all the mothers Happy Mother's Day. So that's coming up next week. So hapving Mother's Day, guys, Ladies happen days to her and missus cal David having mother Day to you. Okay, let's

get it on. Raided Nation. Huh. With the thirty fifth pick in his two thy fifteen draft, the Oakland Raiders select Mario Edward Jr. Defense End, Florida State. I don't know, man. Again, we talked about, yeah, these these pass rats are gonna go early. If you don't get them, you better better get him early. So with Mario Redward's look, the questions are there that two seventy nine, I mean he played at probably close to twenty. Look at the question they

put up three ten or two seventy two. He was close to three twenty during the year, had to That's what he looked. That's what he played like. Yeah, which is crazy because even at even at this high for a guy who maybe last year's tape doesn't say you take him high. But because I've seen what he can be, right and I know that it lives inside there somewhere, I know there's a first round player said in a minute ago, he's getting drafted based on stuff that happened

to you. Yeah, look at all the they just showed a bunch of highlights. Every single one was for the National championship game against Florida from against Auburn. Yeah, and that was one of his better games. He gave Robinson problem absolutely, But notice how none of them were from this past year because there yeah, a lot of questions from his junior year. But again, the talent is there, the potential is there. If it's a need too for the Raiders. Do you ever realize that they didn't give

him a new jersey? Seems like it was last year's jersey size after a Yeah, it was a tough go at one five wasn't looking very slimming. Something a little more concerning than occasional ganja Use is up with Randy Gregory me thinks, well, yeah, there's I mean, it's I mean, if he could very well be the big big slider into this round, he already is well, yeah, he could just keep going. We could keep going. And yeah, like we said, yes, and if he gives close to Dallas's pick,

that's where your considerations could be. It's gonna be a thing. Okay, Jacksonville is on the clock. We've talked about We've talked about the Jaguars. This was a team that we initially thought, Jeff that was going to take a running back, that that could be where we see the first running back. Uh go off the board in the in the second round, and what do we have? What do you have for their other needs? Because I see defensive line here too, the end d tackle running back the FOLI okay, so

they got the passion, they got one there. Okay, so defensive tackle is another one as well. So a potential trouble spot. You know me, I'm a Dallas Cowboys observer. So I'm watching this pick and the one thing that I'm hoping is, I hope I don't see Tevin Coleman. I hope I don't see t J. I hope I don't see a running back name come off the clock. Yeah,

looks like we're at the podium. We're at the podium right now that it's gracious they selection please sprinted to the podium from Florida State University, a second round pick in the two thousand and four draft, running back Greg Jones. He was good with the thirty sixth pick in the twenty fifteen ball draft, the Jacksonville JAGUARSL tj yelled running back out of ball. Here we go. Mock drafted the draft kings well, and then we thought that was going

to happen. We thought that was gonna be the running back was gonna come off the board here. Um Now, the question is when does the next running back we gonna We're gonna see a little bit of a run here or is this just an isolation pick? And you know we don't see another running back for ten picks. Well, that means the New York Jets are on the clock now as we speak at thirty seven. Um Man, looking at this again, I was talking about running back and

this is just Brian broad Us focusing. They're gonna have to walk a minefield now in my opinion. And then the fact that Yelden went this early in it again, there's there's teams well ahead. I think if Dallas, to be honestly wants to be safe, I talked about on our show, I think you're gonna have to make a

small trade up to Miami at forty seven. I think that that it would assure you if if another put it this way, if another running back goes, if you get Coleman now in the next two picks or three picks, where then I think you have to figure out this is not going to stretch. Let's let's let's take a little I mean, all right, maybe the Jets want one. They have Chris Ivory, he's not something super special. Yeah, Washington's got Morris, who's been great, Chicago's got Forte. Tennessee

just drafted Sankky Saint Louis obviously girly last night. I think Atlanta could probably use a running back. I think Cleveland probably wouldn't mind taking a running back, even though they've got Weston Um the other Crowl Crowl Dane help me out, Isaiah Crowell. Cleveland. Yeah, New Orleans doesn't need one. Minnesota we assume doesn't need one. Uh. San Francisco, and then and then Miami at forty seven it is another

trouble spot. Yeah. So, I mean I don't see a boatload of teams here that need them, but enough that it makes you want to maybe, well, you just never know what's gonna happen with the with the pick and I would only say that if there was two picks in Okay, the Jets, let's talk about them. Uh, quarterback, outside linebacker rush or a running back here? Inside linebacker, wide receiver for the Jets. And let me just kind of go through, could we see her first quarterback or

the number three quarterback in this draft? Could we possibly see him here? I think yeah, I wouldn't. I'm trying to think of too about the edge rusher here as well. You know, if you if you talk about could Kendricks'd be I don't know if he's an eight would be at not the edge rusher that you're looking I've just outside its really an outside linebacker, but a rusher. Uh, they're talking about running back inside see an inside linebacker possibility? Um, And I mean I'm just trying to look at who

would be somebody that Mike mccagnan would you know. Let's offensively, though, how much of a shot do they want to give Geno Smith in this offense? Well, that's what Dane was trying to talk about with the first quarterback going off. That's what I want because if I really want to give him a shot, maybe you give him a toy. I'm way more forgiving than most. I don't think it's time to close the book on Geno Smith. He's been okay. They weren't great last year, but he was decent in

his first year. So I don't know. Oh no, yeah, I'm not I don't know. Maybe Gino Smith isn't the answer, but I don't think anybody they can get right here is the answer. I know. I think you're absolutely right there. And with a new regime with Mike mcagnet GM and Bulls as the head coach, they're not pressured to take a quarterback here. They're not pressured to get a quarterback in this draft, right. I mean, I think they're okay

going next year with Gino Smith and uh Fitzpatrick. And if that's the case, then you know that's what they'll do. They're not pressured to go quarterback here if they don't see one that fits their offense, fits what they want to do, and it's frankly worth the pick. The If you look at one of their big acquisitions this uh past spring was Brandon Marshall, you know, and you look you talk about Brandon Marshall with his size, Eric Decker,

that's a pretty decent one too. Yeah, I mean that if you know, if you think about speed, you know, I mean, if if the thing with the with the Jets, you know, you know, if you have Decker and then you have you know, I'm just trying to think of, though, who's your vertical player? Curly? I mean Curly Curly is an underneath type of a player. You know, he's an explosive little player. But I don't know. I mean, I'm just sonna if you're if you're thinking about best available player. Though,

as far as we we've talked about that. I mean we said about the linebacker. Uh, we've you know, we talked about you know, Green Beckham. I mean, could could they add a receiver here? Could they get could they get somebody that's a vertical player. We talked about the quarterback position and obviously it's not a strength for this team, but you can help out the quarterback by adding more weapons. And you know, we know they added Brandon Marshall in the off season. Yeah, a player who's not in his

prime anymore. Uh, but you know he's on the decline. But you know you can get a young player here to see. That's where I wonder underneath them, Well, I'm looking at the Jets. I see say, you know what I mean, and I'm not shot in the rear over the you know. I mean, I'm saying this, but I understand what Kendricks is and those I get that. But Devin Smith, Yeah, I just I'm seas. But that's what I'm saying, though. If you've got two guys that can just and we know what Brandon Marshall is, you know,

we know what Decker is. A damn fine receiver. He is. You kind of said that with disdain in your heard No, not at all, but did I but I did. I'd say it with the way though that he's not a burner. But what about in this day and age. Okay, the commissioners going to the podium, Let's see who they in fact select here to announce the New York Jets selection.

Please welcome from the University of Maryland Eastern Shore. A seventh round draft pick in nineteen sixty six, damn running back Emerson Boozer wi oh and the two draft smokes a pack in theas Devin Smith wide receiver, I go, I'm talking about that vertical threat. Yeah, holy cow, vertical threat can take the top off the defense and it doesn't.

You can't really look at the impact that he makes by the catches in the stat sheet because every time he lines up on the field, defenses have to be aware of it, and they're going to pay attention to what he can do deep and so that's going to open things up underneath. And so for Devin Smith, he helps your offense in a lot of way. It was amazing his I don't have in front of me, but his yards per catch it was like twenty six. Yeah.

In the touchdown the percentage like if they throw the ball to him four point it's going basically thirty yards or more and about half the time it's gonna be a touchdown. Numbers weren't huge, but like you said, you've got to know where he is and you've got to account for the fact that whoever's in front of him gonna stay in front of him. Somebody better be back there. He averaged twenty eight point two yards per catch. This passion didn't say that's ridiculous, And he averaged a touchdown

every four catches four point zero catches. I mean, it's one thing to say big ten defenses and you know this and that, but he just really is so good at tracking the ball, the ball skills at the catch point. And then it's not necessarily the burst off the line, it's the burst down the field. I mean that separation when he's already thirty yards down the field, that second separation, that's what he does so special that not every receiver

can do. To watch him, and like what you were talking about off the line, you're not necessarily, like Philip Door said at Miami, he comes off the line, You're like, holy cow, that dude's moving. Devin Smith comes off the line, You're like, he's running. And then you watch two safeties as he splits them and they're running full speed, and

it's like, wow, now that dude is moving. I wonder because watching him run those deep routes, watching him outrun people's angles and outrun the fact that these guys are already bailing. To me, it looked like DeShawn Jackson is he one? Like? How does that compare? Is he? Is he a one trick pony with the deep stuff? What do you think about him that way? Yeah? And my report I say, I say he's a one trick pony, but he's really good at that one t Yeah, and he is a nine route monster, and he does need

to get better with his underneath stuff. I mean, that's just he has to get better with his underneath routes and catching the ball being more reliable. But you look at Mike mccagnet what he did in Houston adding receivers like Cashaun Martin at a Michigan state. He added h de Vere Posy out of Ohio State. So he's going back to that big ten well to get that deep vertical receiver. And I think Devin Smith is a great pick here. Okay, Washington now is on the clock here

as we go through the draft. Where it now where it pick thirty eight? The Washington Redskins needs being an outside linebacker safety. Uh you can say a wide receiver, running back and a guard would be the yard guard. It sounds like a lot. Uh. Well, and do we know where they're playing Sheriff for sure? I have you heard the question? I asked area. I think they're gonna play him at right tas That's what I had heard too. I can't wait for DeMarcus Lawrence to have that six

set game. It's gonna be great. Yeah, I was, I was. I'm interested to see that. I wrote that in my notes today. But you know, to me, it's the redskin. And and I want to say this just looking at my board, of the of the picks that have been made so far, uh, all my picks have been coming out of guys. The only second round pick that it

had on my board was Landing Collins. So if if this, if my board is any good, the names like Green Beckham are still there, guys like that, you know there's still some guys there, Coleman, John, we talk at Gregory Davis,

So that's good. If the Cowboys, if you're looking at the Cowboys way potentially of thinking here, well, not only that that that's good that and you said it earlier that maybe some of these guys, if there are in fact third round guys on their board, driving guys to them from the top, I run the risk of looking like an idiot. But with the Jets passing on a running back like we were worried about, right, you probably got to run here at least of another four teams

where it's not really a big concern. I don't know, did you just say that out loud? Though I know, I know, I'm sorry. And Dane Dane contradiction, I guess I guess I'm looking at Atlanta Atlanta. Yeah, and Atlanta is the one. Atlanta is the one. Yeah, Yeah, you're right there are yeah. For Devant Freeman is their lead man right now? Yeah, no, I would kind of Tevin Coleman's big, big old, big old bird on his helmet here in a few picks. But hey, you never know,

look at look at the red Skins. This is a team that we know quite well. In the end, the pick is in, they're in a commercial break, und how fast these guys so the But the the thing that did I notice about the red Skins? Who is the rusher? I mean a rack rack post gone now cargan. See that's the thing about it. Did they ever Smith Murphy? Murphy was a fill in guy? I mean, we have a starter now, ain'ty? Yeah? But do they you know? All right, well, let me ask you this still playing

the three four scheme. No such thing as too many pass rushing. We thought they were super interested in trading last night? Is that? I mean? Do we think that's the possibility? I think they try to get out of this. They could, could we see Randy Gregory here? Mmmm? See that's where I mean if if if the number one need, and again this thing is holding to chuckle, I don't know what I'm talking about. The pick is in. Yeah, no, they're not trying to yeah this I just said that, right,

and I just agreed with him. Sorry, I just kind of guys, the picks in, they're not trading. I was just I was just thinking about along and every everbody's at home going what the picks in? And in my second round mock, I had him going Randy Gregory because I think that that's the point where you maybe take a take a chance on a guy like this. You can never use too much pass run. You got to remember though about Gregory. John Gruden was very critical about

gret and then his brother being the head coach. Well, I guarantee you he got into his brothers here. You know, these these these these needs have been holding four you know, as far what we're seeing. So if teams are a ddressing needs the first three picks we talked about again, outside linebacker, safety, wide receiver. You know who knows. I mean, I'm just thinking about, Okay, who would be a guy.

Maybe there is going to be an outside LIBRCA. Maybe you're right about I just don't think that they would go to Nebraska route because John was so critical of that player, you know, and that makes total sense. Yeah, so you know who knows where they go offense? Here? Yeah, in defense, and we're looking at offense well wide receiver. I mean, is that a possibility as well? I mean, you got a pretty solid one two punch there, don't you. Yeah, the dudes get the dudes get balls though. I mean yeah,

but dud, would you need like a bigger guy? I mean, would would Green Beckham? Makes sense there? Somebody? I mean, you got an offensive coach? Is your head coach? Sure? That's I mean, that is a great point. And when you're talking about I mean you're talking about the money they just committed to Robert Griffin, trying to figure out if he's the guy they try to help him with an offensive lineman. So last night you got you give them? Okay,

it looks like to me they're movement. They're moving the movement. Now we have the war room cam up live. Washington's pick is in. They haven't yet walked it to the podium yet, so you're now looking up. It looks like we got a way better view of Billy McClay tonight. I don't know. I think the lines have something to do with the screen that we're seeing. I think that we have a bigger view, got bonus view. They get his hand, we get all of them. Interesting that they

went with the same group of guys in there. I thought that as all right, can't to pick his in Commissioner's walk into the podium to announce the Washington Redskins selection, Please welcome from the University of Cincinnati. A seventh round pick in the nineteen sixty five draft defensive back brig Owens and two thousand fifteen NFL Draft. There watching Redskins select Preston Smith, linebacker Mississippi State. That Preston Smith, that's kind of surprising to me, maybe, and you guys are

the you guys are the tape gurus. But we, or at least I we, I guess had him in the fourth round. But I know, I know there's people out there that were higher on him than that. Dan, What did you think on Presston? I like Preston. He was my number forty overall players, which and I'm not I'm not even really worried about tal or his fit, right, I see him as a fourth three guy, right, a fourth three guy. They announced him as an outside linebacker.

If you just heard Brig go and say that, that's interesting. I see him as we've talked about, which means that's what was written down in the car. Yeah, that they turned in. I see him as a big, bulky, run stopping defensive end. I mean he weighs two hundred and seventy pounds. Yeah, because we were sort of talking about him as a d end that if you wanted to slide him in that That's what he did in Missisippi State this past year. On third downs. You watch him.

He moved it to the nose of the shaded nose, it tilted nose, and he beat centers. Uh, you know, like they stole something. So you know, I'll be it'll be interesting to see how they use yeah, hopefully well beating up on LSU division arrival. Hopefully they don't use them well, and hopefully that they made a poor pick. He doesn't strike me as a guy that's standing up, you know, doing the Brian rock poth thing man. And you know, maybe maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I'm

not a scout, but we're all right. And they ruined it well, Scott McClue. It seems like to me that they've taken two players. Now. We had question marks about Sriff and where he was going to play, Now we have questions about where would you play Preston Smith. I was just sitting there thinking that, you know, again, these needs seemed to be holding to chalk what we're talking about, that that they would I didn't think that it would be Preston Smith as a linebacker, and that's why I

was interested to see how he was announced. I that's like when I just I had it, it was assumed in my head he was going to a four or three team. I wouldn't have thought that they would try to Okay, somebody would try to fit him in anyway. Yeah, the Chicago Bush Cago Bears are on the clock right now. We look at their needs. Uh, last night, who did the Chicago Bears take their Dan? You remember who got white? Yeah? The wide receiver ran okay, so they got white to white.

We look at defensive line here, yeah, defensive defensive end, corner de tackle or wide receiver here and it picks up. So ken't let's get to it. D tackle stick Bucks. I don't spect the intend at your duti, give him minute, Give him a minute, all right? Ye A quick buckas to announced in the Chicago Bearts selection, please welcome from the University of Illinois, the third overall pick in the

nineteen sixty five draft by the Bears. Nineteen seventy nine Hall of Fame inductee linebacker Dick buckas okay, with a thirty ninth pick in the two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft to Chicago Bears select and I like this Eddie Goldman nose tackle. Very nice, Dane called it. He said, defensive lineman Eddie Goldman, the nose tackle from Florida State. The Bears are the team that just keeps drafting the defensive tackles that Cowboys fans want to be in Dallas.

If you think back to last year, Ego Ferguson, Will Sutton and now Eddie Goldman really beefing up the inside of that defensive well. And the Bears are moving to a three four and so you need that nose tackle. That's why you thought Danny Shelton maybe a possibility at seven. Dango Kevin White there, okay, great, Yeah, I do not blame him for that pick at all. But here in the second round, get that nose tackle Eddie Goldman player. He can play the one the nose. He can do

a lot of things for you. So I mean six three six four, three hundred and thirty six pounds. Not many human beings on the plant that can move like him. Okay, just looking as you see Charlotte Jones, Anderson Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones all as sharing a little bit of a laugh here, maybe thinking that I can't believe they took Prestons. Well, maybe maybe a situation too where they're kind of realizing that their guy it could be

sliding down their direction. Off to the left of Stephen Jones, Will McClay looking down at his notes as well, trying to kind of manipulate the board the best he can and hope that they get their guy. So, uh, Tennessee is now on the clock. Uh. This is a pick they received from the New York Giants. When you talk about the Titans and some of the things that come to mind is like offensive players, weapons, How are they gonna help again, a young quarterback who could could surely

use some guys to to get the football too. Can I make a bold predictionary may make it. Make it. That's what we do here. Make it. D g B. Do you think so? I like it? I like eg B. I I mean I know, I know he's a gun runner. He's like a not a doesn't sound like a particularly good back back story. But I mean he's the heck of a bailout option. He's a like he's if he's even halfway there. He should be a Dez Bryant type receiver and wide receiver would happen to be one of

the Titans needs. I thought DGB would be picked thirty three, so I thought DGB would be a Thursday night that was their pick. So you're talking about okay, So, I mean it sounds good. They They have Justin Hunter, they have Kendall Wright. They signed Harry Douglas too, didn't they. I mean, we got Delaney Walker's probably like their most reliable dude. A pad fantasy year for me last year and kicked the Cowboys ass in week two. We talked about with Jameis Winston, making sure you get him help.

So you get the blocker, okay, Marcus Mariota, get him some help. Is that that a pass catcher, A big bodied player, that you can develop, develop the chemistry and or do you go offensive line here? Offensive line an issue in Tennessee as well. Yeahy also, I mean again he's got he's got a trouble pass all that type of good stuff, which is actually bad stuff. But like, they need a dude that can I mean, Tennessee's so boring. They don't have any to dude. They need a dude.

They need a guy who's gonna be on Sports Center and make crazy plays and win games for him and stuff. They don't have that. Yeah, I think that's that was one of those teams that we saw in h in a week it was a week two or that we are week three that we went to it was week two, was a week two? Was Delaney Walker? He kicked him up and down the field. That's right. I mean the Cowboys dominated the game at the end of the day,

but they didn't have anybody, no weapon. They were throwing to um some bum and Brandon Carr was beating him up in the back of the end zone. They don't have anybody that really strikes fear in your heart. I don't I don't disagree with Dave here. I think that the pick if you if you talk about the guy, give me the guy with some weapons. Give me a guy with some possessed I was arguing against it for Oakland last night, but now I'm sitting here saying, you

just hitched your wagon, Marcus Mariota. You damn well better give him somebody fund to throw too. And if you want a receiver here that that would be the overwhelming pick, right. I mean, he's talking about a guy that Dane had him taking at thirty three, and the next guy's down there at least for me is Jalen Strong and Tyler Lockett and Devin Funches. He would seem like, this is the time where you take that route. This is a game. This is the guy that's got the zip. I mean,

this is the guy that's got everything the bizarre. I mean you could see the combination now the problem you like, I say, it helps Mariota. But and we've seen this, Dane, and correct me if I'm wrong about about DGB. The inside routes, the things like that, the crossing routes, stuff like that that throws at Mariota is very good at making those things. Not so much's always down the field, but those inside type breaking routes, Did you Bill help him learn to throw it far? He will just trust me.

And he is a player that Randy Moss point. He does need to get better, you know, understanding how to use his big body. Um. You know, we talk about the off field stuff a lot with DGB. He is also a very raw player on the field too. He is. There are a lot of areas where he needs to get better and realize how to use his full potential to be the talent that he can be, but the talent that the potentially upside. It's just so sky high with him. Maybe maybe Mariota, assuming he is the pick,

because it's not we don't have it yet. But maybe Mary Mariota's a choir boy. Maybe he can keep him in line. You know, you talk about balancing your Captain America with your bad guy. I don't. I know. I need to know more about comic book heroes. I don't know much about him either myself. You call it, yeah, you said two faced this morning, that was that's a batman tatman. But but I said a bad guy. I'm not a Captain America fan. Is it a shocking statement?

That's good? Then you don't like Byron Jones America. It looks like it looks like the Rams and the Panthers have made a trade here that pick with the Ram seven. Yeah, that's that's the pick after after this, after this pick. So Carolina. I'm kind of scared right now because Carolina has come to from down at fifty seven. That's not good. Guys. They were right there from the Cowboys. One thing with Tennessee, they've done a lot of work on Doryl Greenbeckham. They

have Okay, let's go kick Garrison to the commissioner. Tennessee Titans selection. Please welcome from Eastern Washington University a second round draft pick in two thousand and five offensive tackle Michael Ruse. Who know, With the fortieth pick in the NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select dori Old Greenbeckel and there we go. Hey day, he had it seven picks before me. I just it's just, you know, I think it goes in both of your both of the wind

column for the both arts. Well, that's why we got you both on here and paying you big money to do this. I wish you were paying. Are you getting money? It's it's something that makes sense both from a talent perspective, and with these character guys. Again, at some point it's just the risk is worth the reward right around forty Yeah, with that, with that talent, right around four if this was if he had Byron Jones's backstory, he would have been a top twenty pick, right that I mean, am

I not good? He would have got to play football this year and we'd have type of a better player at the right point. That's a very good point. Well that was, you know, and again that I think everything that we said is absolutely right about that. So we now move on. Will we be surprised if we were wrong? Yeah? And this is okay, we have a trade up. So with forty one, the Rams moved up a whole heck of a lot. Well they actually at Carolina to the Rams. Yeah, Carolina,

Carolina gave up a whole heck of a lot. Yeah to move up. And Dane, I'll get that from me here in a second. Let me just read off to you the Carolina Panthers needs. We've seemed to have uh done a pretty good job of of falling along and being right along with them what they need to do. I'm scrolling down as we speak. I got you here if you want to let me go for it right here. I'm kind of like the I feel good about okay. Uh. They talked about offensive towns, safety wide receiver is a

possibility of the three. Last night Carolina took a Shack Thompson outside linebacker from Washington surprize and a lot of people yes, which surprised a lot of people. So again, offensive tackle, safety wide receiver would be the top three. Let me need let me throw out a curveball. I'm about running back John and Stewart's back, but they lost

Angelo Williams. Could they potentially go running back here if they they see a guy worth going up to get like a Tevin Coleman, Because we look at it, who's picking up forty two Atlanta right who we thought Tevin Coleman. That could be a possibility. So maybe getting in front of Atlanta just throwing them out there curveball. As we look at the war room cam, Jerry Jones has got his chair tilted. He and Jason Garrett are having discussions. They are facing what is their draft board right now

as you see Stephen Jones there to his left. Also, they're trying to plot and plan how this is gonna get to them. They're still sitting there at the bottom of the board at sixty and a long way to go before maybe that we see Jerry start putting pen to paper, or maybe their guy in fact is coming down the board to them, and they're just gonna sit tight and see what happens. So it looks like the Carolina pick is in. They are in a break right now, and we'll get it when we get back. One thing

with Tennessee. Sorry to go back to that, but talk about just two opposite spectrums here with Marcus Mariota and then DGB I mean just the high character the highest of high character guy and then Doyle Greenbeckham with a lot of a lot of issues, a lot of immaturity, his baggage is gonna come with him to Tennessee. So it's gonna be very interesting to see how that plays out. Yeah, it should be. But again, it's an explosive type of I mean, it's a weapon, right, and it's something that

that and Dave hit the nail on the head. They did not have a bunch of pizzazz that offense. That's a guy like you're gonna go I mean, maybe maybe depending on his background, but like you would buy that guy's jersey, which you can't say that about very many other guys on Tennessee's offense. We talked about an offensive tackle here at Carolina. We've uh, you know, potentially anybody scared that it's you know, but Dave, you threw a running back out scared out there, and I don't like

the way it feels. No, we're not going to bring That would be their fourth need though. That would be Stewart. Yeah, Stewart is that they have Stewart. They lost Angela Williams. Again, we have to look at who's picking forty two. Yeah, and with that being Atlanta, that's kind of yeah, exactly, that's Stewart Whitaker going on Toddman A long way to jump to get it. I think it's gonna be a running back. That's just that's what That's the first thing that came in my mind when they moved up in

front of Atlanta as a running back? What if? What if? What if? You're about to be really unha? Okay, let's go through who would be your best who would be your best offensive tackle left on the boarding? Okay, Clemmings would be the best running back. Your best running back would be cry Tevin Coleman. And then tell you who's your best wide receiver available Strong, Jalen Strong. Those are all three guys that you've got a lot of love his first round picks, you know, and they're I mean,

they're sitting here atty one. See, I think you have to say, okay, out of that group. Out of the group. He just said, I think Coleman would be my best option of the players that that I would consider, you know, I think that's where I would you know, if you're asking me what direction I would go in, I'm sam I would say Coleman. I mean, I mean, what do y'all I think Coleman's better than Yelden. That's just me. Clemingso is a good I don't know what's wrong with Clemings.

I there must be something medically roughing there and we're and we're it's like, it's just like Collins. Collins is off a lot of people's boards now, So you're gonna have that in your first round. Clemings was a guy that we talked about even all the way back to the Senior Bowl, about the best, some of the best, the best, who is the best player here type of thing at the sea. And I know Dane was talking about Clemings a bunch. It probably didn't have the greatest

of senior bulls. But you know, if you watch throw on the Duke tape, it's just amazing watching him play football. It's just fun. But again, the injury, I think there could be something. There is something there. That's the reason there is something there. Okay, well again, it looks like the picks in they're back. Let's see if they go here soon, to the UH, to the commissioner. They have not, So we'll sit here and visit some more. But I think again, these needs teams are dressing their needs very

early in this Browns just moving back. They were at forty three. They just moved back with Houston, so Houston would be coming up. Houston got jumped for a running back yesterday, if I remember right, they did. So let's see, Yeah, that's a that's behind. I mean, we still we still got Gregory are still on the board. I mean, I know we're talking about needs, but those two players to be getting into the forties and those two like something like Gregory, so this many people are scared of him.

Something's up that I don't think I want any part of Well, you're not you're not letting that they're if they're passing him in the if they're passing him in the first round, they're gonna probably pass him in the in the second round. And nobody's really comfortable taking that particular player right now. But I'm worried that the Cowboys are going to be comfortable doing it, which I don't. But you are more You're far more comfortable at sixty

than you are at twenty seventy. Okay, the commissioner's commissioner's walking to the podium. Let's go. This would be the U This would be the Carolina Panthers selection from the Rams traded the forties forty first pick to the Carolina Panthers. To announce the Carolina Panthers selection, Please welcome from the University of Notre Dame, selected in the second round of the nineteen ninety draft, defensive back Pat Terrell. With the forty first pick of the two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft,

the Carolina Panthers select Devin Funches, wide receiver University. Yes, all right, Devin Funches. That's interesting. Huge for my desire to draft a running back at sixty That's all I mean. I'm here to keep a Cowboys focus boy. That's interesting, isn't it. Yeah? We talked about team needs and wide receiver being one of them. Cam Newton get the ball last year? You know, do you feel like you feel like Carolina just overreacted a little bit there, Like maybe

they needed to trade up to get Funches? But did they need to trade up that far? I don't know, Dan, what do you think? It is interesting? Devin Funches is such a wild card because on paper, will they play it tied in? Well? That's that's the other thing. Where what position? Is he having a pretty good time? On paper? He looks like a top twenty pick. He looks like a player that is going to be a mismatch night mayor in the NFL. But you turn the tape on, it just does not match up a player that drops

a lot of balls. He just doesn't think. He doesn't play up to his size consistently. And again, where do you play him? At six four two thirty two. He was a former tight end moved outside to a wide receiver this past year. Each team is going to look at him differently, and so I think the Carolina Panthers see him more of it as an outside receiver, a guy that you know you can throw the ball up

to against smaller corners be a mismatch nightmare. But again, a player that does have does have more hiccups than you want to see on tape. Yeah. I was impressed though the size, Yeah, absolutely yeah. And when he plays up to it, it is impressed. If you do get some goosebumps watching him, saying this could be a really good player, but I just didn't see him do it necessarily enough, consistently play up to his size. He only had a couple of touchdowns last year. Just really kind

of disappointed. I know Devin Gardner wasn't the best quarterback, but see that, I mean I see that in the notes. I'm looking at the Devin functious notes in verse notre Dame. I made a note that you'd like to see him be better at catching contested balls that size. I want to be able to he just doesn't do it consistently. Dane used the term tall trees to describe Jamis Winston situation. I'd say Cam Newton's got himself a couple now. And

Kelvin Benjamin Greg Olsen for good measure. Okay, Atlanta is on the clock right now, they're at pick forty two. Atlanta's team needs. We talk about the Falcons and what they they have done, what they did in the first round last night, and let's see Atlanta Vic Beasley the defensive end from Clemson, so that takes out of the outside. Really the defensive end. Rusher, safety, cornerback, and guard would be the top three needs left for the Atlanta Falcons.

And we talked about what safety means here. Safety I mean Various Randall and Landing Collins are gone. So it sounds like corners probably where your value is if you're looking for a second. Okay, then then let's focus on the corners. Then we got PJ. Williams is still on the board, Jalen Collins and Derby. Rank those three, who would you take if you're the land of Falcons out of those three? I would take Derby? Those three? Um, I think he has the speed that you want, the fluidity,

the lower body explosion. Not a flawless player, obviously, it's why he's still here. Uh, some run, some hiccups and run defense. But a good player that can stick with receivers. Up and down the field day, fight for me, fight for Jalen Collins. If you can't, No, WHOA, I don't want to fight for Jalen Collins. I don't think he's that good. Is that okay? Do I have to fight for James? I mean, okay, the things you don't like about him, then he I mean, this is more Again.

I'm not a scout. I'm not breaking down Taple, but you now what, you lum that watches him play. Quis started ten games. He lost his job to a true freshman. I just I don't remember. The most impressive play he ever made was chasing down Melvin Gordon in the open field. Yeah, hey, he was sort of fast on that play. He had a couple. He had a couple of good games. I don't know. And if you're drafting, if you're drafting Jayalen Collins, you're doing it on potential and the fact that he's

about six two. I mean, you know he's got that. He's got that size and speed. I hate I don't want to compare him to the best cornerback in the game at all, but he's got that Richard Sherman build that teams are all about these days. If that's how you want to play, okay, But I don't Darby do anything for you. I don't see it. I would probably take one of the two Florida state guys because we talked about Jayalen Collins, and man, I love what he

could be. Because you are talking about the size. Oh well, we got to pick. Coming up here, okay, Commissioners at the podium, the Atlanta Falcons selection. Please welcome from LSU, a seventh round pick in the nineteen ninety nine draft by the Falcons Center, Todd McClure. There you go, Tagan. With the second pick of the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Collins. Go Tigers, Jalen Collins. I love what he could be, the size and the speed,

and I thought he had some ability and coverage. We'll let that side of the table talk about him, because I don't think anything nice. I want to love him. He went to my school, you know, I just I'd never I don't love him either. My biggest issue with him was I thought that when you got to like when you get to the point where it's we are making the catch, I didn't think his coverage was that bad when I was watching him. I just thought, when the ball is in the air and when the ball

gets there, there's too much. For me, there was too much of a he was right there kind of guy, like you're not able to stop the guy from making the Yeah, it's not like he's getting burned, he's just not making the play. Yeah. And I thought that was frustrating for a guy that you see the physical potential and what people would like about him. I don't want to I don't want to spend a top forty ish pick on potential that you haven't really seen. Great keep

pushing guys down the play I think. I think you're also getting a player that could play either side of the field, and I also could play in the slot that's might would be at Lanta, Mike. I mean, there's no looking He's an athletic guy. Like, I'm not saying he's got no chance to be successful, But based on what I've seen, I never loved him. Yeah, ten and ten games started right. A little part of me will always love him because he's a Tiger. But I get

to see him next year. There's another player you get to see. I would not want him. Hey Byron Jones is fine with me. I'll take Byron. Take Byron Jones. We talked about it earlier. This is on the clock. Now it's Houston traded up with tet with the Browns here, so the Houston Texans now owned the forty third pick here in the in the draft. Uh, in the first round they add a fourth and a six. Yeah, So in the in the sixteenth pick over all the first they took Kevin Johnson. So let's see that takes a

corner out of play here. Outside linebacker. Inside linebacker is a need and then potentially a wide receiver. So if you look at the team needs, it sounds like to be linebacker is the prevalent. So you think this is a linebacker. So we talked last night, Well we talked about inside outside. We I mean, we heard people say last night that running back was something that Houston might considered to spie Arian Foster. We don't feel that way. What about receiver? I see, I'll fight for anything you

want to fight for here. I think, like you said, again, well, the Christians walked on, So here we go. We don't have time. Texans got it in forty third pick to the Houston Texans to announce the Houston Texans selection please welcome from Mississippi State University, a second round pick in the nineteen ninety eight draft, defensive back Eric Brown urs Fred Smoot in jail with the pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, with the Houston Texans select McKinney. Is

it all right? That's two picks in a row where the guy making the pick went to the same school. That's gotta be a coincidence, right, that's not I don't think they're doing it on perfect I don't think. I don't know. The league is great, but I don't know if it's that great. But the team would adjust in the draft for him to accommodate the NFL. After I listen, this is who's announcing the pick. You gotta take one

from that school. That's Erie is saying. Mohammed and Tuggle are the starters and inside linebacker for the Texans if they played tomorrow. But now they got McKinney, the physical inside linebacker, mic linebacker. I was talking to some coaches here about him. Could even think about putting his hand on the ground and letting him rush a little bit super thump. Yeah, So the can I just spent a hot take and just I'm just putting it out there.

I'm glad he's gone because I didn't want the Cowboys to take him, and now I don't have to worry about I'm with him. Yeah, so this is one of those guys you fake throw your pin like. Oh, I'm just like damn yeh shucks, damn. We can't have Kyle Wilber Oh crap. Oh no, Like, I don't like the idea of a guy who's like us. Maybe sometimes we'll play him at defensive end, like, no, be good at one thing. I don't know. I'm with you. I feel

like I, oh, Bernardo McKinney an apology. For as much as bad as I've talked about him, I just don't see a player that, um I can trust in space. He is uh. He does have talent downhill against the run, he can't pass rush a little bit, but I just don't feel great about him in any type of space. Jeff, would you like to say anything positive about the young man? Yeah, there's some positive. I think that the positive is a

lot of that downhill stuff. You know, if you want a guy that's gonna line up in the middle of the field and he's gonna come down. He's gonna be an old school guy that's gonna take on blockers in the hole, and he's gonna be strong against the run. Sure, sure, I see that in him. I think there was a little bit of Stefan Anthony who went in the first round. I thought there was a little bit of that in him in terms of if it's in a straight line, you can make that play and computer right there because

of that, Thank you, Brian. Yeah, it's the same way. You know, if you're not playing in a straight line, the game is a little more difficult for the guy I think not a very stressed looking Cowboys draft room. Right, Well, I tell you what. Okay, So before we started this round, I went to the Twitter verse and I sent out six names, and I said, this is why if I'm the GM, I just sit there calmly and watch. Sure, because there's six names on the board, then I'm comfortable with. Okay,

Yelden and and McKinney and the group. So they're gone, I've still got four. I've still got Merrick Kendricks on the board. I've still got Duke Johnson, Tevin Coleman, and Randy Gregory. So at this point, I don't think there's any there's any pains. Let me go around the room real quick, though, said the piggyback off. What you said, is Randy Gregory the last guy that you would be comfortable taking of. I mean, and maybe this is the wrong way to ask this question, but is he the

I'm okay, I know you're not okay. If he's at sixty, I feel a lot better about it. Okay, him taking Randy Gregory or say taking Coleman or I'll take my running back now, because I tell you I want the running back man. And like maybe I'm I'm not like a super educated football guy because I just want the flashy but I want the beastly, badass running back I want.

I'm starting to get worried about Gregory because of this, because of where we are in the draft and what David's been saying all night, Like the further the more teams that are wanting to pass on him twice, but go through the whole round. You saw him go through the first round. Now right now there's a bunch of teams pass on him again. Well, it's because there's it's more than just the failed drug test. It's a lack

of daisical attitude, a single block by tight ends. Okay, well, I'm just you know, there's there's a lot of things that turned off teams to Randy Gregory besides the failed drug test. So you look on the field as well. The weight. You know, can he sustain comfortably two hundred and fifty pounds that's a big question mark. But at some point, again we talked about it with dgbuh, We'll talk about it with some more of these character guys. At some point the risk is worth the possible reward.

And so where is that in this draft. It's hard to put a number on it. If you were to write it out on a list of pros and cons, the pros would be he's got a boatload of potential and he's cheap at the where he would go. And the cons are like, you don't know how much he cares about football. You don't know if he can stay out of trouble, You don't know if he can handle the work. Well, you don't know when he's gonna get popped for a drug test and be suspended. You don't

know if he's ever gonna meet that potential. You don't know how he fits your scheme. You guys convinced me that we don't need to take him this. I don't want him, I never have. It's it just depends who else is there. And you know that's really what depends when they take him in twenty in an hour. Now like this is gonna be like I just said that, and now I feel bad, Like this is I don't want I don't want him. Cowboys prob people out there

didn't feel the same way you do. Yeah, but you just but did these guys feel But that's I'm saying. They took a shot on on Kevin Hardy, greb Greg Hardy. Kevin Hardy was an old, long time linebacker. I'm sorry he took on Greg Hardy. Yeah, that's an looked at me like, who the hell's kid linebacker Jackson? We gotta pick up Okay, Yeah, this should be the New Orleans Saints election. Yeah, here we go, Saints. I'm sorry, welcome from the universe. Take Gregory and not making our process.

Second round draft pick in two thousand and three by the Saints offensive tackle scomb Georgia. That's what they're saying, pick tick, that's a good pick. The Bulldog putty four pick in the two thousand and fifteen NFL draft, the New Orleans sayings, select, Holy kikha, your boy. There's one I like, that's your boy. There's one I actually really like. All Right. I liked him better than Shack Thompson. We're

on on every board now. If he had talk about acls, but he played all of last year healthy had an outstanding senior year. Keen Sacks is that good? The production was his outstanding, it really was. And so the resumes there. And he's one of these guys where you talk about the forty times, the traits, the athleticism is not necessarily though, but he knows how to. It's one of those things

where we talked about with Nate Orchard. He doesn't have the traits that you want, but you have to look at the end result and the fact that he gets sacks. He makes plays in the backfield, and it just the highlights are impressive. Talk about him there, young scout. I just I thought when we watched him, you know, the

ability to beat offensive tackles inside and out. You know, you talk about a forty time and then you talk about you turn on the tape and you watch him play on the tape, he looks faster than you're trying to. Then the combine would tell me that he is when he lines up in sprints. You put him on a football field, and I just thought there was multiple ways that he was able to beat people, which is a quarter absolutely. Yeah, that's where I saw a guy when

he was rushing up the field. He had counter moves. There's a lot of these guys to just try and beat you. This guy's swat, swim, this guy's ripped, this guy's bull this guy's dip this. He's got an idea, he's got a plan when he wants to go to the quarter. He's a good kid. I talked to him last summer before this year, and he he just he's a joy to talk to, a really engaging individual. So I think, you know, the Saints want to get that pass rusher. They got a heck of a one here

if he can stay healthy. You know what I forgot about I completely when the Saints did that deal to send Kenny Still to Miami, they got Danielle Ellerby in exchange. Yeah, so you get Anthony last night and Ellerby to be your you know, your middle guys. And now a hell of the outside rusher for them. That's okay. Rob Bryan's probably pretty pumped. He has to be very pumped bad. We like the player. We all agree that. Okay, that

means the Minnesota Vikings are now on the clock. I think this has to be I think this has to be linebacker. You think so they want a linebacker. They wanted a linebacker badly. And if it's a linebacker, I'm losing my guy. I bet you might be, because McKinney's off the board. All right, Yeah, we know that's not it. Dawson. I don't think this might be for him. So I think we're Summer wants a run, hit guy that can get they can get to the football side. Here we go.

Sounds off Commission UCLA. Maybe right much to announce the Minnesota Vikings selection. Please welcome from the University of Maryland, a second round draft pick in two thousand and three by the Vikings linebacker E. J. Henderson, and the two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Eric Kendricks. Great job, Dave Brugler. They're coming after my guys. Yeah, after our guys. Vikings have been they were eyeing this

second round pick to get that linebacker. McKinney went. They stayed at forty five, and they got a heck of a linebacker. That's great value, isn't it forty five for that we're talking about my first round for sure. Boy, that is a good football player. That's a player that conceivably could have gone at twenty seven depending on how the first round played out. Yeah, you know, and talking to some people with the Cowboys, he was a guy

that that name the coach is really really liked. In matter of fact, they sent to Mattie Reflus, a linebacker coach now out to Westwood to work him out. This guy's got a real nose for the football. And that's what Mike zimmer I, you know, working with Mike and being around Mike a bunch. He's gonna want guys that could run. He's gonna want guys that get hit. He's gonna want sure tacklers. This guy, man, when you put him on the move, he is very difficult to block.

And he's also a good wrap up tackler. So I don't see a player at the FBS level with over one hundred solo tackles this year. Yeah, I mean, that's darnin pressive. I see you sweating over there on Twitter. I'm starting to you sound a real confident two picks ago, because because four of your guys were still there coming after I added a guy, we're down, I threw a new guy in who I threw, uh, threw Carl Davis

into my group. Now, okay, the thing is is, I'm not saying you're wrong, but we're still fifteen picks away. You're a long way ago. A player that we're kind of surprised is still available. Jail and Strong Uh just tweeted, I don't know what's going on. Oh I feel fat. Maybe they watched Stevie Nelson against you. Yeah, maybe they watched the kid Jefferson too block. I love when y'all are mean. What about Marcus Peters? He did a nice Marcus Peters did another. J well, Jale Strong, I touchdown

against Marcus Peters Corners. You know, corners heading ability to let's say, step their game up, don't act, don't act like the kid didn't have some rough games. Oh yeah, oh yeah, And I gave m a second round grade. He's not a first round player. He's a second round player. And that's a big guy, can climb the ladder, can kind of possession guy. Yeah, and that's there's nothing wrong with that. You need those guys, especially in the red zone. Guys that are you're gonna box defenders out, use that

length to catch the ball away from your body. He has those ball skills. So I think I still think we'll see Jalen Strong here, but I think too some news came out about his injury history. Might be something going on there, maybe why he's still on the board. So we talked about a lot of different things right here. It looks like to say San Francisco, we've talked about them on the clock. If you look at their team needs inside inside linebacker, guard, maybe some type of an

interior defensive lineman. But they I think they dressed that we have another trade trade Philadelphia came up. Oh okay, so that's Philadelphia. They ain't taking a running back. They got eight of them. That's Philadelphia going to Miami is what that is. We talked about Miami as a destination for the Cowboys. That maybe could have been a pick that has had So here's a division rival going to Miami at forty seven. San Francisco has their card in

right now. But I feel pretty confident in Philadelphia is not after somebody I want. I don't know, am I am? I righting that? Uh? Yeah I would I would think so, yeah, I would think that you would play run. They run different defensive schemes. They definitely don't need a running back. Yeah, Armstead was their pick a last night. The defensive end from UH Oregon. So San Francisco, Oregon. Yeah, looking at inside linebacker, guard, a possibility corner, tied end, outside linebacker,

and a wide receiver. So let's see what they in fact? Do you know San Francisco with Trent Baalky a new head coach there, So Trent Balky's really running uh this draft? You know Harball I believe had an influence and what was going on? Now? You know, Jim tom Seula, the head coach, is sitting there and enjoying a nice meal or two while trimp Balky picks his team for him. So Jim tom Seula just looks like a guy that I would get a beer with. He just, oh, he's a fun guy. He's an NFL. He's an NFL, NFL

europe guy. So yeah, I mean the Eagles trading out the forty seven. I talked about at twenty how Byron Jones was an option for them because Chip Kelly wants that big defensive back moving up to forty seven for the Eagles, maybe for like an Eric Row type size. Right, it's he missed out on I mean he had a chance to take Jones. He didn't take Jones. There was thought that maybe he would try and take a guy

that could play as a safety. They had they added two corners Uh during off season, so could they use I think you, I think you're onto something Dame with Row, just because remember I'm trying to get you to play. Remember I kiss kept arguing with you about potentially play him as a safety. Sure, I thought maybe they would do the same thing with Uh with Row claim at safety. So I think you might be. With so few safety options in this draft, you just can't rule it out.

I mean, I would love to keep him a corner, right, I think he can do that. I think that's where he might be best. But again, with so few safety options, you cannot rule out an Eric If that's what if he is the pick for Philadelphia forty seven? Yeah, well, the again San Francisco forty nine Ers were waiting for their selection to go in the Eagles. Uh, they make a jump from fifty two to forty seven. We talked about, UH, this pick could potentially have been traded if the Cowboys,

you know, wanted to maybe go up at Miami. UH was in fact available to be there for the trade. So let's go to the podium right now and see with San Francisco pick. To announce the San Francisco forty nine ers selection, Please welcome from James Madison University, a fourth round draft pick in nineteen eighty six by the San Francisco forty nine ers, defensive end and newest member

of the Hall of Fame Charles Hanley. In two thousand fifteen draft, the San Francisco for the nine select Johaski Tart defensive backs Stamford whoa again talking about those safeties. You gotta get him early and with Tart, this is a player where you hope he's a lot better two years down the road than what he is right now because he's just very, very raw. You have a lot

to work with. Their a small school player. He was Jimmy Ward's teammate and in high school, a player that he was he's new to the game, didn't he only played one year in high school, goes to Stamford, and he really was a playmaker for that defense. You have a lot to work with here. But again, I think there's gonna be a big transition for him, a big jump up. And we saw a little bit of that the Senior Bowl and you see it on tape. But he does make some splash plays, but he does miss

some plays too, So a lot of potential here. I'm not sure you see it from day one, though, how how scale one to ten? You you are the guru, I defer to you. How surprised are you see him here? Not too surprised because the fact we talked about the safeties. You gotta get him early, So not too surprised. Although top fifty is pretty early for him. I think, well, how about sample somebody like that I Louisville. Well, no, no, I'm just saying a guy. I mean to me, Sample's

a better player the kid from Louisville. If you're talking about a strong safety, a guy that could cover a little bit, a blow him up type of a guy, I think I'm sample more than this kid. I think that it's an interesting corollary to Dallas. I mean, we were talking about leading into the draft. You know, you made you want Duke Johnson at sixty you hope he's there. That maybe seems too early for a lot of other people, but you get your guy. You like the way he's valued. Obviously,

you know, they feel a lot better. The forty nine ers do feel a lot better about him at forty six than maybe a lot of other teams would. So you know, this is what kind of what Stephen Jones was alluding to, is that teams are gonna feel, you know, even largely different about players, and you know, just just because it seems early, you know, different teams have different opinions. And I forgot that I mentioned Jimmy word, not even

connecting the two that now their teammates. They are teammates in high school and other teammates in the press, Jimmy might have walked into the draft room and helped them out a little bit. Yes, that's pretty cool. Yeah, Okay, that means that Philadelphia, the pick is in and the commissioner is walking to the podium. This is the Philadelphi Eagles. The Eagles the Miami Dolphins have traded the forty seventh pick to the Philadelphia Eagles. To announce the Philadelphia Eagles selection,

please welcome from the University of Michigan. Selected in the fourth round in the nineteen ninety six draft, offensive tackle and congressman John Runner, Dan Congressman. With the forty seventh pick of the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Eric Rowe defensive back Q Tall. I just had a feeling about that as soon as the Eagles moved up safety play. I had Eric wrote to the Eagles in my mock draft, knowing that that there was that connection.

As soon as Philadelphia moved up, you got the sense that they wanted to go up and get that safety or corner. You know, you know he can play both. I still think he's gonna I still think he's gonna play safety myself. That I just you know that again, you're you're talking. That's a team that was awful in the secondary last year and the year before. Yeah, and so and and and Chip Kelly knew that they lost football games last year because their inability to deny people

from catching the football. Yeah, yeah, here's a guy. Dane talked about it. He's got the range he's got the size. I just think it's too good of a fit there for them. Uh you know, and and I know we've had a bunch of arguments about that. At the Cowboys. I was looking for a true free safety. I think the Eagles did find a true free safety. Even though I do like Randall the kid from from Arizona stay

better than him. But you know, a tall guy like this, you gotta love everything about him and what he is. A year ago I would have said I would agree with you about safety, But what he showed me in this past year at corner, I feel good about keeping him there. Yeah. But you know, again, with so few safety options, would not be shocked at off. That's what

the Eagles plan is, the plan of safety. Yeah, well that's gonna be the Philadelphia Eagles have made the trade and they did select Eric rowe h. He is the cornerback safety from from the University of Utah that puts the San Diego Chargers on the clock. And this will give us an opportunity to take just a little bit, well the picks in we'll take a break after San Diego's pick. The Commissioner's gonna walk to the podium here and give us pick. We'll take a break after that.

But uh, let's talk about San Diego and what direction that the Chargers might go in. We talked about their first round and what they were able to do last night. They trade they're not gonna go running back. They're not gonna go running back though that would be interesting. Yeah, So just uh, maybe some thoughts about what you might think with the Chargers here? Could they Could it be they need some offensive lineman for Philip Rivers? Do they not? Well?

You know, yeah, I mean that the guard tackle would be a probability there. Also talking about outside linebacker, a cornerback, a tight end, and those are all possibilities. Uh, linebacker again, an inside linebacker being a mentioned here. They lost uh you know, catch Kart is here now and then Walker has been their third and fourth of the past three seasons, so they failed to replace them. Who is your best linebacker left an inside linebacker? How about your boy from Miami?

Perriman is the top one I've got left here? It would be Pairman and then Phil Dawson from TCU is talk talk a little bit, talk a little bit about a Perriman though, because he's an interesting player to me and the way he just runs all over the upper He's a thumper. He's one of those guys. He's another one of those guys if you want to call him old school or a throwback. He's sort of a squat guy that's gonna come downhill and he's gonna take guys on it, and he's gonna make plays on running back.

He's gonna tackle with some violence to him. I thought he was okay also when you're not necessarily dropping him to cover deep or playing man coverage, but on crossers, it seemed like he's gonnaare football player coverage, right, Yeah, it seems you know. He seems like to me a very solid, at least two down linebacker. Yeah. I think the best way to describe him as a hammer looking for a nail. I mean, he wants to hit you and he brings it every time. He's short, but he's

not small. He's very thick and he brings it. He brings his whole body when he tackles you. He drives his hips and his legs through his target. So just a very violent player. I think a lot of teams would love to have him on their squad. I tell you, I love the kid myself. Man, he might be short, but he is around the football. You never if you've turned on the tape, you don't have to ask what number he is because fifty two is always going to be in the pile. He's always gonna be around the ball.

He's not dodging the block. No, And that mammy produces some good linebackers with that number. Huh two yeah, fifty two. I I just you know, San Diego. You got to think about the way that they play and all that. So you know the way they play defense and uh, you know, in their in their scheme and all that that, it's it's a it's a very aggressive defense. They do a really really nice job with that three four package

and stuff. This kid could be an inside linebacker, uh you know, and and and make a ton of plays if he's given that opportunity. I just like the fit there myself. Uh if he would be there? Anybody else though, strike his line? Who else did you have their? Jeff is Paul Dawson was my next one is Paul Dawson? See where do you have him? Dane? Where do you

have like him? And Parriman? And is there anybody else that I'm missing that is a solid second Yeah, Dawson he's more of a second third uh, you know, early third round type. But with Dawson, similar to Gregory and these other guys turning turning you off yeause of the avoid he tries to. He's the opposite. Yeah, the opposite of Pairman, right exactly. And so yeah, with with Dawson, the instincts are off the charts. Uh, you see that on film. But again going back to uh, he just

turned off coaches turned off. I mean his own coach Gary Patterson said, if he doesn't change his way as in the NFL, he's gonna be He's gonna be fined over and over and over. So what does that is? That up being late thing? What is it? What he means just not caring, not just allowing outside influences affect him. Well, here's here's the Chargers with the selection too, and we're

thinking linebacker. Here there go Charger selection. Please welcome from the University of Tennessee, the fifteenth overall selection in the nineteen eighty eight draft by the Chargers wide receiver Anthony Miller. With the forty eight pick in the twenty fifteen draft, the San Diego Charger select Denzel Perman, linebacker Miami. Now there you go, there you go. See that's we thought along that the lines of a linebacker, a guy that

can make plays a couple different one. They could have gone for Paul Dawson instead, they went for the guy I like to watch his highlight. That's violence that Dane was talking about, the hammer looking for a nail. This kid is always around the football. He's short, but he's tough. He's stout and on the move. He's very, very difficult to block. So I think it's a really really good selection there for the San Diego Chargers. Helps him inside for a group and the starting to watch struggled a

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at the STBPC Mortgage Studios. Brian Broadest, Dame Brugler, David Hellman joined here now by my second draft partner, Kevin Turner of one oh five three the fin Kevin, welcome to the Fray. Hey, thanks for having me in here. Good to have you here. We're in the middle of a lot of things. It looks like to me that the Kansas City Chiefs are on the clock right now.

The Chiefs last night was able to address a draft to the corner Peters from Washington, John Dorsey, my old buddy from the Green Bay Packer days, looking to build his team along with Andy Reid. Take this for what it's worth, what you will. But I don't know. I this is not a concerned looking Cowboys war room. Jerry and Stephen Jones just wandered off screen. They're having They're having a conversation in Chris Hall's office. On the back,

Charlotte Jones is laughing about something. So this doesn't look like the room that was kind of squirming around in their seats being terrified that their guy wasn't going to be there last night. So I don't know. Again, you can't. I mean, we have no idea what they're saying, but

that they look very at ease. They do look very at ease, and you know, it could be a couple of different things though again, they could be the team that is comfortable taking the Nebraska Rush, ind could be taking Gregory and you know they knowing that they they're seeing this young man, we're all seeing it right now slide down the board and they think you gotta call it a free fall at this point. Well, yes, well we've been mean to these kids, some of them. We

probably shouldn't be totally mean to them. But they look like that they're comfortable that Randy Gregory could potentially get to them, or maybe the running back we've talked about a bunch of different running backs and possibility Coleman being in the mix. This looks like a room that is comfortable that the guy they want, whoever it is, or a guy they want, will be there in sixty Yeah, okay, Well we could talk about the Kansas City Chiefs now.

They addressed their corner need last night with again with Peters the needs right now being a wide receiver, a center a possibility we talked. Dane was extensively talking about Irwin the center from Florida State. We've seen him kat at tackle and we've also seen him play some center as well. Yeah, yeah, very good player. I was thinking with Kansas City, they'll, I know they signed Macklin in

the off season. This might be a good spot wide receiver maybe and give another target, you know, maybe it's Lockett. Maybe that makes a lot of sense. I know, it might be a little early in the second round maybe, Jalen Strong, if the risk checks out. There's a couple of names that I think they need to help Alex Smith that a little bit, give them another a few targets. Yeah, Dane, any thought about you know again, the needs we look at receiver was mentioned, absolutely, Yeah, Jalen Strong. That we

go back to. That is something going on with the wrist, is something that the injury a little bit more. And that looks like the commissioners walking. Yeah, let's see the commissioner's walking to the the podium hill to announce thee

Kansas City chief selection. Please welcome from Baylor University, the tenth overall selection in the nineteen seventy seven draft by the Chiefs defensive back Gary Green Baylor University sick Em Barrass with the forty ninth pick, and the two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select right up the road Mitch Morris Center from Missouri. There. I like it Mitch Morris. Okay, he played tackle at Missouri. We've evaluated him as a tackle. I to me he

was a center. I know you had him on the board as a city right and and that's all the tapes at at tackle though. Well, he did play a center as a sophomore and then he moved to right tackle as a junior, moved to left tackle as a senior. Um a player, you have that versatility. But I do see him as a legitimate player that can play all five offensive line spots. Yeah, I don't. I don't disagree. KT. We saw him playing left tackle, uh for the Missouri

TI guy really light on his feet. Yeah yeah, And if that's ah, if that's the direction they wanted to go, I kind of like grass you a little bit more. But did you know no problem with that? You know we on our boarding we kind of had him like a five you know later on. But sure, if you need to fill that need, uh and they need that center. Uh Yeah, I have no problem with Mitch Moose right there.

Good pick. If Dane look at their situation though, U last night, would you've taken Irving and then made something made a play for one of these corners that's on the board, a PJ. Williams or something like that, or or is this the route that you would have particularly gone. That's tough because they went Marcus Peters over irving two players that you think were in the generally the same area, and so they went with the with a better corner. Can't really fault them for that because they knew they

could get Mitch Morse here in the second. So I'm okay with what they did, getting the talented corner at eighteen and then waiting getting Mitch Morse here. I feel really good. I feel really happy for Morris. He was one of the great uh just individuals people in this draft. Uh, Mitch Moore is going to a good, good spice of Texas kid too. Yeah. We have actually got a first here on night number two, which is a Buffalo Bills selection. There we go the Buffalo Bills. They were not in

the first round, don't remember. It was part of the Sammy Watkins right. Yeah, and here we go with the Bills. We I'm curious to see what this is. They got quarterback Bryce Petty, done a lot of work on them. Yeah, I was thinking fifty one might be a spot here. Here we go. Is it a Ryan to see fake out? Who knows? Let's see commissioners Danny a perty goo got the crowd misre ago, Oh oh oh, Jim Kelly wait to go? Okay. I was wondering why there was such

a you know, ovation there, which totally makes sense. Kent was doing the very nice thing of letting Jim Kelly get some applause. So that's why he's a great executive producer for this program. That's a relate. That's a pretty cool moment right there, to announce the Buffalo Bill selection, please welcome from the University in Miami. Selected by the Bills is at fourteenth overall pick in the nineteen eighty three draft. Two thousand and two Hall of Fame inductee

quarterback Jim Kelly, h thank you. If I could just take a second and thank everybody all over the world for especially my NFL family, for all your prayers this last year. Last year, this time I was in the hospital not knowing if I'd be here today because of all the prayers and the well wishes and the love of God for my NFL family. Thank you, thank you, thank God, bless you. All. Right, here we go with the fiftieth pick and the two thy fifteen NFL drag.

We the Buffalo Bill select Ronald Darby defensive back, good pick. Yeah, absolutely, there we go Ronald Darby now going off the board. I like it a lot better than the potential Rice Petty pick. Yeah. Well, and that just shows you too. You had Jalen in that second round group of guys we've talked about. We had PJ. Williams, Jalen Collins, and now Darby. You like Darby more than PJ and go to the same school and played on the same national I gave Darby the edge, Did you really over PJ?

I mean, I think we're talking about two second round players, so not a huge gap between two, right. I gave Darby the edge because of the speed. Yeah, I tell you what I like PJ. Williams. The thing about PJ Williams to me is that I like how when you play that press. I mean he's a grabber now, I mean he's a little bit of a grabber holder guy, but he is up on you and there's a lot of times you see him deny the football. So maybe you're right though, both second round type players on this

on my particular board, and I know Katie same way. Yeah. With Darby, there's just no separation. You know, he's got to get his head on the ball and track the ball a little bit better, but there's just no separation. He runs with every wide receiver. Yeah. Let me ask you this, Dan. You closed the book on Gino Smith an hour or so ago. DJ Manuel speaking of Florida State players, Buffalo was interested in Petty. They met him in Dallas, tucked him out, but did not go that

direction here. So I you know they brought in Castle. Yeah, you know he might be the starting quarterback. I bet you he is the starting quarterback at begin of the year. So EJ Manuel, I'm not betting too much on him this year. We might see more Matt Castle this year. From all right, let let's throw something out here. And I kind of had the run potentially where we could have seen we couldn't seen Bryce Petty go and we're getting shocked we haven't seen him. Yell, okay, we're seeing

I think they am smart. It's just me, am, I am I Okay. The Browns are in now. We've got a Brown selection in about Please welcome from the University of Southern Mississippi. Nate Archer here. You think the twenty second overall pick of the nineteen eighty one draft by the Cleveland Browns defensive back Hanford Dixon. They knows all these Ohio guys. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna defer to mister Youngstown. With the first pick in the twenty fifteen draft,

the Cleveland Browns select Nate Orchard, back or Utah. I feel like I've known this pick for about three months. Have you been sitting on it? They the Browns love what Nate Orchard can bring to their defense. They were all over them at the Senior Bowl. Um, and they've just the coaches, especially the coaches really like what he brings to the defense. Though he's gonna be uh outside linebacker for Mike Petton's defense, He's not gonna start. He'll

be a sub package player. Jibals sheared left and free agency. This is kind of their answer to filling his shoes. So Nate Orchard who a lot of people. When we all started this draft. He was an early favorite at twenty seven. Obviously he dropped down after that a lot of people were talking about him as a first round pick. Absolutely, he um, it's fine. They go within what probably ten picks of each other. Yeah, him and Kakaha tied for

the leading sackson college football last year. So, I mean nineteen that's I mean, I don't know, you're you're doing something right. I mean, that's a that's an absurd amount of sacks for one college football season. Yeah, and I'll tell you what again, there was a lot of times though where you saw sacks where Katie where it was like if it was clean, you know, if he was

gonna make that sack. But there was times where he would also get hooked up on guys and stuff and get washed out of the play, get knocked wide, not really play with much power, you know, around the edge.

As far as one of these guys that they were talking about as an elite rusher, Yeah, the guy that might need to put on a little bit away, just a little bit, and you know, as a guy is sometimes to me, I saw a guy would kind of be taken out of the game just a little bit, and then you'd seem shine for a few players and then you'd kind of seem disappear a little bit. Yeah, um,

good player. That's probably about where he thought he'd go too. Yeah, I Dolphins are now up and they're they've made the moving. Here we're going, can't. We got the Dolphins on the clock, and there's no time for our nonsense. Nineteen eighty eight Hall of Fame inductee offensive lineman Dwight Stevenson, thank you.

With the fifty second pick in the NFL twenty fifteen draft, the Mammy Dolphins select Jordan Phillips, defensive tackle Oklahoma, another another early favorite for twenty seven and the Cowboys that kind of dropped down the board. Here's a team, though, the Dolphins. We've always talked about their their defensive line in the front seven that they had that was a pretty formable group in the last see maybe one of

the strength. And here they add Jordan Phillips. To me, a little bit of a boom or bust type of player here, I think more bust than boom. You know, just watching him play, you just said we should be nicer, like five minutes ago. I just think you'd be nicer and be honest, be honestly nice, nice and be nice and yeah and unhonest. Okay, but yeah, I think there's some things about this player that's very inviting. You know,

the size there's I mentioned it. There's times you see him getting the gap, get up the field, beat block all those things that you want to see in a defensive lineman, and then you see guys that are clearly not as good as him block him one on one for long stretches of the game. So the Dolphins, you know, feelt like, you know, here's a guy that everybody had his potential first round talent, and now they get him at the fifty second pick. Uh, so you know, we'll

keep an eye on. You play him next to Sue, right, and then uh, he's got a you know, he's got a little bit of a bad back situation too. It was a little concerning, right right, I just like I said, I mean, you know, Sue, there's no doubt about it. They went out and they made a big play. They got Sue. That makes them, I think, inside even more difficult, especially with what the edge rushers they have that I just wondered if this guy, you know again, he's boom

or bust. I'm thinking more bust. That's just me. I just I just just too many times, too many times where I just didn't see him totally play all out like I thought he needed to be so Okay, well, now that puts uh Cincinnati on the clock, Dane. Last night Cincinnati uh went offensive lineman with a booey right that. Yeah, I might not start the season. Yeah, they went with a booty last night. Uh. Again, a team that might that, A team that traditionally does not like to pay uh

their their veterans. They allow their veterans to move on offensive tackle. You know, they they we said a buoy. Uh. Both starters are up after next season, lared Cincinnati, r Uh could we see you know, you've talked about a Jake Fisher. We've talked about Clemmings. Uh, you know, we've we've even talked about you know, and and he's off a lot of boards. You know, since a Bengals have

been known to take risks. Before I bring up Collins, you know a name, just because Cincinnati there's a lot of times that they don't care about particularly and they've had good luck taking LSU tackles. I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility. But I don't know, man, I just know. But let's look at their other knees tight end, tackle and safety. Okay, tight end? Uh the uh they didn't not have a pass usher list. I guess they did add Michael Johnson, Randy Gregory. Would they

go that direction here? Talking about the character guys they traditionally they don't they do traditionally do not or they're not scared of character guys. That that's the thing. I and you know, and I and again I talked about team. They're a team that traditionally does not like to pay guys. You know, they let guys if you if you're a guy that it's up, the contracts up, they let you move on. And you know, so both the offensive tackles are up next year. But you know, I like what

you're talking about. Uh, you know, but the Max Williams here, That's a team it's always seemed to have drafted. Isn't this a team that just drafted Tyler Eiffert. Yeah, but he's coming off ir Jermaine Gresham in the first round a few years ago. Then Tyler Eiffert's like a surefireway to piss off their fan base. Yeah. Well, but not that they won't do it. I'm not saying they won't do it, But I know if I was a Bengals fan, it'd be interesting because their first pick was a pick

for the future. Yeah. Yeah, Max Williams would be another pick for the future because he's a Richard sophomore, very young, and a player that might not have a big impact for you in year one. You're looking down the road for him. P J. Williams here, maybe we're talking about a quarter there. Okay, I like that. I still have Leon Hall? Is he still there? Let me look at the I can honestly say, I don't look at a lot of Cincinnati Bengal tape in the year. Yeah, I'm not.

I'm not well versus Denard would be on there and then Hall is still there, is on the wrong side of thirty. Yeah, and then they just redid uh Kirkpatrick? Right? Did they pick up the option on Kirkpatrick as well? Yes, so you know, we'll see how that, uh that plays out again. Yeah, they're a team that just does not like to pay and that's and that's a big, big thing. And I think you have to keep the Bengals are

the ones that took dark Wise Denard right, aren't? So I don't know, all right, I don't know, but it's listened to one of their needs. And yeah, we talked about you know, they they they trying to replace Hall is what you talked about, Dave that that is a uh, you know. And and and then they got pat Nan Jones as well, so you know, maybe get a little bit more, maybe added another younger player there. Interesting and uh,

Baltimore just moved up. Baltimore just went to Arizona's spot five, went to just where the running back running Detroit was kind of standing out as well. Detroit and Arizona or the two I've kind of had an eye on. I mean, you're getting you're getting close, but but I don't feel good about it yet. I really don't. Please. Welcome from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. The thirty first overall selection in the nineteen eighty eight draft by the Bengals

running back and miss a shuffle can get some cold cuts. Yah. Wow, Hey, this is his moment. This guy's awesome. He hasn't been pick. In the two thousand and fifteen draft NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jake Fisher tackle, tackle, back to back. Yeah,

we talked about this. This is a team that does not like to pay their guys, and you know, and and Jake Fisher, it's a little bit surprised though, because I think, to me, so they've always had big lineman and he's kind of not in really the mold of what you would think as a Cincinnati Bengal offensive tackle with as far as his So, yeah, the team that drafted Andrea Smith t J. Clemings to the Bengals in

the third round, then yeah, just just load him. Get something's definitely wrong with Clemings now, I mean that's that's top fifty. That's almost as puzzle. I mean, it's more puzzling than Randy Gregory because we know what's wrong with Randy Gregory to an extent. Okay, this, uh, the these next two picks are interesting with Detroit and baltim Yeah, Baltimore. Baltimore has moved up to Arizona spot. Is this where your heart gets broken? Brian? Is this where your boy

Tevin Coleman goes. I'm not so sure. Yeah, I'm not so sure, because again you're I think you're right about running back. I think I think this is where one I mean the one. Yeah, I me, personally, I would take Tevin Coleman here if it was me, you know, but you gotta you know, that's a team in the past. That's that's kind of gone, you know a little bit that they've done, guys like Reggie Bush and guys like that. What do we what do we make of Will mcclaybean

on the phone right here? Well, Will is on the which I don't know if I don't know, if I don't know if that's on the actual Uh, I don't know if that's on the actual feed. No, oh it is, it is, Okay. Yeah, I was like, oh no, yeah, well it just gave away the golden goose. Yeah. Uh is that? Would he be a guy that would be on the phone in a trade something? I don't know if he if the trade, they would go to their bank of phones. They would be the phones. You see

a group of phones right there in front of them. Uh, And that's where I think that they were talking to another team. Those phones are all programmed. You see right on the other side of the cowboy helmets. Uh, those are in the middle here, Yeah, right in the middle there, they've got the bank of phones, and that's where they would Uh. So Will McClay being on the phone in the back office, I shouldn't take that to me. He might be Will might be calling one of his other friends.

Uh in the in the league. He might be have another general manager that he's talking to about stuff going on. Jason Garrett's going to bring him over. Yeah, having a little pow wow here and you know, mines are up, yeah, and here we go. Oh, lines are up. There we go. I'm sorry, good Joan are moving fast tonight. I love it. At University the twenty nice pieman of the nineteen eighty eight draft by the line, How thinny looks linebacker Chris Spielman.

It is funny to see how different I mean all stat didn't look as you know, he looked kind of smaller. With the fifty fourth pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select a mirror Abdullah. Oh all right, so Abdullah goes and there's a short running back off right there, Joike Bell and a mir Abdullah throwing a little theoretic. I like what they're doing there behind Warford

and Tomlinson. Now, yeah, exactly, you get a bit, you get a little guy running behind those big offensive lineman. And we've talked about kt when we and I were watching tape on Abdullah. Though a lot of holes there in Nebras some of the biggest holes you'll see in the country. So if you liked what you saw on tape, you might get used to it because you might have those holes in Detroit with those two big guards. Man Dula is a great player. Now we liked Coleman and

Duke Johnson just a little bit more. And if I'm you know, with the cowboys sitting there at sixty, I'm kind of pumped. I've got to I've got to think if you want Coleman or you want Duke Johnson, I know, Tevin Coleman's the guy I've got my heart set on it. Is it he decided he's made it this far? Is it realistic? Here? All right? We're at fifty five, that's right. Yeah,

we're at fifty five. We're five picks away. Realistic to think that you might have to choose between not just Duke Johnson or yeah, Duke Johnson and Randy Gregory, but also Tevin Coleman. Yeah, Baltimore here, Yeah, I'm not. I know, I know the last I mean, I just jinks died by saying it. So, but forget about that is I mean, we've been talking about Tavin Coleman since February as a guy that's like he's forgetting about. He's one of my favorite players. I am. I am, honestly, I'm shocked that

he is still available. But let's and again not Jinks it, but everybody in that in that war room right now, Stephen Jones, he having conversations, he sees, he sees the names, he sees the names and maybe the opportunity to move back in this draft. Maybe that's what he's talking about. Which when you look at the numbers, it's really interesting. They could get somebody. If they could get somebody, maybe you get New England to come walk up to you if you get to you know. But again, maybe somebody

coming from the back of the round. The Tampa, Tennessee Jacksonville took a running. Maybe they want to come up. But if they get enough names on that draft. For I mean, if you're sitting there and you think you haven't, you know, one of your guys will be there. Absolutely. You know. Jerry Jones is out of the room right now, you know. So they they're just sitting there, they're mining

their own business. But you see Jason Garrett now it's having a little bit more conversations with Stephen Jones, Jerry Junior involved as well. Charlotte in the middle of this right now, you know you worry that's maybe too cute. No, you just take your play. I think that they I think that picks in them for the Ravens. This is a trader. Cardinals have traded the fifty five offense to

the Baltimore Ravens offense last night. Yeah, I think so. Well, they need a cornerback though, from the University of Miami ten the tenth overall pick in the nineteen ninety eight drafts and after the defensive back Dwayne starts with the fifty fifth pick. In the two thousand and fifteen NFL draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Max Williams. T end who's picking next, all right, the Steelers And that's where I had Max Williams slotted. And the Ravens knew they needed to get

in front of Pittsburgh and already get Max Williams. Yeah, great job. And and Ozzie Knews gives them a lot of credit for they always seem to have a really good feel for who is going to be where on that board. Max Williams, Dane talk about him and what you saw from the very talented flex tied end really from the Minnesota Golden Gophers. Yeah, player just turned twenty one years old. He's just scratching the surface of the

player that he's going to be. Uh he's not yet really a detailed route runner, but he accelerates well, soft hands, You love the ball skills that he brings. He can really be a mismatch nightmare. But he is very young. I don't think he's a player that's going to help right. He just turned twenty one, So he's not a player that's going to help you out. I think a ton

as a rookie. But he can place in some two tight end sets and then when you look at his pick three years from now, it's going to be a steal. I'd see a lot of Heath Miller with him. Now. You'd seem to make some circus catches too. I think that's really impressive, how good a hands he has. H greg Olsen was the type of guy that I kind of compared him to. Greg Olsen's a little bit bigger

than that. But yeah, Max Williams, Now I'm getting thrilled because I think Baltimore was another table that we are terrified of keep taking guys that we don't want. And now it's fine with me. And now I'm starting to come around on the broad trade down I did. Now as we get closer and closer, and I think more guys I like, as we get closer to sixty, a lot of teams just see this draft as such a

deep running back class. And you know, if you don't keep your running back here in the second, you can get a David Johnson, and the third, you know, you can get a David Cobb in the fourth or fifth. So absolutely, I think that's what we're seeing when a lot of these running backs is, you know, but here with Tevin Coleman and Duke Johnson's on the board, Heck, I'm not moving back. I'm staying at sixty and I'm

gonna go get one. I never would have guessed that Abdulla would be the fourth running back off the board. It's Randy Gregory's still in your thoughts at this point in time. He's in your thoughts, which means he's in my thoughts because I trust your opinion. I just how do you feel. I'm just looking at the defensive ends, and I mean, this guy's potentially could have had a first round grade. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what you gotta wait. If he's still on their board, he's not

on their board, probably somewhere second or third round. I mean, i'd have to think that he would probably be a guy that we talked about second To consider him here, you can't just you know, uh say we're going running back, that's it. And who's ever on the board we're taking. There's no doubt. I mean, yeah, you gotta you gotta consider it's just based on the value. I mean, you're talking about a really talented guy. I just still don't

know if it's worth it. Also, we mentioned him at the top of the at the top of the round, and this is probably more in line with what they thought. But Diggie Diggy Diggy's still sitting there too. Yeah, he sure is. Like like I mean, I'm starting my I'm the wheels are starting to turn. Like there's enough names there that I'm okay, let's do some inventory. Then here Coleman comfortable. Coleman still on the board, Dude, Johnson's still on the board, Gregory's still on the board, Carl Davis

is still on the board, and p J Williams. We don't think they would take he would still be on the board as well. Uh, if you're talking about and Bryce Petty, all right, Bryce Petty, now shut up, don't say that. Well, I'm just talking about if you're talking about Jerry Jones. Aren't you think aren't you the king of the wind? Now, aren't you the king of the wind? Well, you know, I didn't know. But see that's me. I'm out of here. I'm sitting here doing radio right now.

I will flip if this team takes Bryce Petty, if all these guys are still on the Jerry Jones is still is now returned stuff. Yeah, he's back in the war room here. It looks like to me the Pittsburgh Steelers are on the clock. We talk about the Steelers in a couple they seem like to always have a player fall into their laps. I think that happened a

little bit last night with Bud Dupree. Quick, Paul, We've got I've gotten there from enough readers that I think I want to hear y'all's take Gregory and Tevin Cole when are both there in sixty Gosh, that's so hard. I guess it's a really hard question why I would take or who they're gonna take. No, who would you take? And then tell me what you think they'll take. I would take Coleman, but I think they're gonna take I think they would take the end. I would take Coleman too,

but I love Coleman, so I'm biased. I would Coleman's a beast. The line is great. He doesn't have any real issues that you have to worry about. The thing is that Randy Gregory, to me, he's best is a three four outside linebacker. Yeah, agreed, He's two hundred and thirty five pounds. I think Randy Gregory is, no question, the better talent than Tevin Coleman or a running back. I'm just I'm not convinced of his fit in Dallas Pittsburgh.

We're talking about a cornerback. They got the edge rusher last night in Bud Dupree, safety of possibility, an offensive tackle or a guard. These, these needs that we've checked tonight, have seemed to have held up. Teams seemed to be drafting off their needs here early uh in the in there in this second and first and second round. We talked again about the Steelers with Bud Dupree last night, a corner and a safety as well. Any any particular

cornerbacks we've talked. We've now the Steelers are a team that Steelers needed a corner. We were worried about them maybe sniffing around Byron Jones, and we talked about it. Pji is still on the board, Nelson on the board, Shaw on the board. Uh, that seems like a smart pick for them right here, Saw or or or Nelson, I mean something like that. Or you think or p J Williams. I I mean, I I'm not I'm not the tape guy, but I know I like PJ. Williams' size.

He's a bigger guy. Yeah. Do you think that they would go size? I mean Williams the guy see the Stewards. To me, Stewards might be a team that will play I don't know. I mean they're big. They've always been a big, physical team. Yeah. I mean they always had gotta be to play in that division. Yeah. I just who was who? Okay, if the guys they just named, who are the best cover guy? Williams, Nelson, Shaw, can you throw? I mean Carter, I'm named Goldson. I'm naming guys.

I mean anybody, anybody strike me since we like the corner. We like the fit of corner here. Any of those other names do anything for you here? I think one name that I kind of like, the John Smith out of Florida Atlantic. He's in this area. Now we talk about p J. Williams, also not squeaky clean off the field, and the Steelers traditionally are a team that they want high character guys. Yeah, and factoring that in, you know, could they go in a different direction than PJ. Williams

if they do go corner here? Yeah, well we will see what particular. There's a lot of activity going on in the war room. Guys are very focused, a little more, a little more yes, stressed out, look, I mean, grant me and they're four picks away. Yeah, but but they know they have options. They do have options. Stephen Jones now leaning over talking to Jason Garrett. He's telling them, Hey, if we can go back, maybe we can land a guy or two. They've got names. I guarantee you, Garrett.

The Steeler selections in. Let's go to it. Cowboy hat for the wind Steelers up on the clock. Here we go. Please welcome from Southern University selected in the third round of the nineteen seventy draft by the Steelers Hall of Famer defensive back Mel Blunt. Thank you. Okay, here we go steal a nation. With the fifty sixth pick in the two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select sin Quez Golson, defensive back Mississippi. That seems all right.

They went corner. We were, we were on the trail of what they were doing. These teams are holding in there on their on their on their needs size. Yeah, five eight and a half. I mean a player that he's got into some trouble too. He's to me he's a nickel. Um, I don't I don't see him playing on the outside. Uh, he had I love his ball skills, you know, ten interceptions as a senior. Are you kidding me? We're shaking hands and looking real happy here in the Cowboy. Well,

Garrett looks, Garrett looks not comfortable. Jerry looks excited, Stephen looks excited. We're we're glad handing and slapping backs all over the place over here. Okay, Well, maybe like I say, they're gonna get ready. Yeah, let's see we got I mean there there's still three picks away, So unless they traded, like yeah, so what, I'm very maybe Twitter has an

answer for us. You know, I think that again, we've we've talked about all the possibilities that they can go through, you know, and and that's the thing that that we we have to be you know, you have to be really be alert for of all those names. I mean, they had a lot of options on their on their uh, their board to go to, and you know, we we we've gone through them and and and talked about them.

And again I think that the runners were there. We talked about Randy Gregory, a bunch, Carl Davis, We've talked about you know, these guys. You know, it's there was a lot of options. It looks like to me they're gonna stand there and to make a pick. This is not a group that's sitting there gonna sweat some things. They can bass on Randy Gregory. I don't I don't

think they can pass on am I am? I I get Are they that confident that they're yeah, okay, yeah, this is a Randy Gregor as a player they were considering a twenty seven. Yeah, absolutely so if he's here at sixty, I'm just I just gotta believe, I just gotta believe that, you know, the running back. Yeah, let's go the pick here. Next, we've got up on the board right now, this would be Saint Louis would be

on the on the on the Lewis Rams selection. Please welcome from the University of Hawaii, a second round draft pick in two thousand and three by the Rams linebacker Pisa Tino. He's Samoa. Thank you. With the fifty seventh pick and a two thy fifteen NFL Draft, we the Saint Louis Ram select Robert Havenstein, tackle Wisconsin. This is and this is exactly what we were talking about at the top of the team's value guys in different ways. I mean, this is a guy that I thought had

a much lower grade than second round. But all it takes is one team. Yeah, well that's again, that's a you look at you look at the situation, you know with uh these teams. We're hearing something in our ears right now. It looks like some talking going on here we're here in Jason Garrett, I'm sorry, sorry about that. Well, we know it's a defensive player. Let's see. I'm sorry about that. I mean to talk over him here we go.

I don't know. Okay, so we're we're okay, we're just gonna keep Okay, So we weren't playing any audio from anything. Any calls they say, okay, good, fair enough, fair enough. I just so I'm sorry about that. We stopped down the show. Uh there it looked like we were hearing something in our headsets, so we didn't want to interrupt anybody making any calls. Uh. The Cowboys are or obviously they've got the player they wanted to be got. If you look in the war room, they've got their guy. Yeah,

they've locked again. That means we still have Arizona on the clock. We've got and then after them, after that would be uh, Denver and then Dallas. So they know that they're gonna get their player here uh with with their pick. Uh. So uh we'll just h we'll see how this all uh plays out here. But again, um, just go through the names, you know, the runners. Let's go the picks up, the picks up. Now, this will be the Cardinals select from Baltimore. Is this a running back?

This is another popular landing spot. Commissioners on the clock. Okay, let's see if we don't have any audio here, we're gonna get an announcement on the player. Nothing coming to the Headsblands. So okay, who we speculated about potentially which way they you go? You know, defensive players here though they've lost their defensive coordinator, new defensive mark Marcus Golden. Marcus Golden is a player, so sorry about that. Didn't have anything in my headphone saying but we didn't get

the commissioner's pick on there. But yeah, Marcus Golden, the defensive end from Missouri. That puts the Denver Broncos now on the clock, which is right ahead of the Dallas Cowboys. Um, so we will see who the Broncos and then the Cowboys will have their option. If you've already seen celebration, we've seen Jerry Jones on the phone right now, uh talking obviously too. He's uh, he's just hung up the phone,

Stephen Jones. Everybody looks extremely happy. Um again, so we keep talking about names, you know, and we we focused. I mean, look look at your board, Brian. I'm looking at my board and it's one of two players. It's it's either it's either it's got to be either it's either Randy Gregory, right or Carl Davis, right, I think that if you if you talked about yeah, I think that I think you have to include one of these running backs in there too. Rod Marinell he's not talking

to a running back. We saw him pick up the phone and talk. You know, that's right, that's right. I'm sorry, my bad. I was just adding names to the into my into my mind. But yeah, it's either it's either gonna be Randy Gregory or it's gonna be Carl Davis. I mean that that that seems like the only logical conclusion. I think it's Randy Gregory. Yeah. Think that's the pick. They considered him at twenty seven. We thought there maybe he could have been the choice there. Think it's gonna

be sixty. Yeah, I do. Well, here we go. The Broncos are now up. The Broncos are making the selection here with the Commissioner Minnesota, a fourth round pick in the nineteen seventy five draft by the Broncos wide receiver Rick up Church. If I can just take one second, I'd like to to think my Denver Bronco family and my family back in Holland, Ohio. I'm in the process, I'm by I'm fighting leukemia and my family, the Denver

Broncos and my family back in Holland, Ohio. I just like to say thank you for being in my corner with the fifty ninth Pig and the two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft. Our Denver Bronco select Ty Sambrilo, tackle from Colorado State University. Okay, Ty Sambrello, our state products, staying in state. Yeah, I like the fact I like this kid myself. I mean I did. I like the fact that I thought he could be able a swing tackle.

I thought he could be one of those guys that you know, Dany, we we talked about maybe a little bit light, maybe not the strongest guy in the world, but I liked I always liked the foot quickness, I like disability to stay with this guy. He was a guy that could finish his blocks as well. So it's really one of those guys that I really like it. As far as he's gonna have to put on some way, he's got to put on some strength, build up a little bit, but as far as far as finishing the guy,

that's what he annailed him. Let's be honest, We're talking Ty Sambrello and Number sixties up. Yeah, I think that. I think the fans want to know who that's six. He's gonna be. Yeah, we've been We've been mentioning it all day. Randy Gregory's still there, still there, If he's still on the board, do you pass on running back here to go get the talent? Well, I think that that David Hellman made a very stupe point. We got your defensive coordinator. Yeah, and I was thinking, Okay, could

it be the running back? I was trying to add Remick. I personally think that Randy Gregory is on their board very high. I think they've waited this pick out they were they started today thinking he was going to be there. He in fact has got all the way to them in this draft. So I'm willing to bet that this pick is gonna be Everyone in this room, this thing. It just goes to show all the preparation in the world. Man never would have thought Randy Gregory would be here

in this position. Never would have thought you would have your choice between two or three really solid running backs. I mean, I would have told you you were crazy if Tevin Coleman was still there at like forty eight sixty, say, the first draft show we did back in January. If you would have if someone would have told us you the Cowboys ended up with Randy Gregory and Byron Jones, been like, oh, Byron Jones would have been a nice secon round pick. Okay, Cowboys on the clock, and we

would say, here's Dallas. The selection is up for Dallas. We would have said, what did they do to go up and get Randy gregor? Darren oh Man, what's up? Dude? How about them Cowboys? With the sixtie of the pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select great pick Randy Gregory. Are boom shaka laka. All right, Randy Gregory, we see him there. He's in Chicago, very happy that this uh, this journey has come to an

end for him. Uh, you know, and you have to think with with all that's going on in his life, he's very happy right now obviously, but cal always have to be as just as happy as well to get a guy that getting ten talent. Yeah, I mean, now the questions is the support system. Jason Garrett is everything that we believe that this team has stood for, uh, you know, as far as helping their players and stuff.

Can this kid adapt and come in and uh, well even you know, even the offensive coaches are happy at looking to see the war room from up top, you know, the offensive coaches are. I think Scotland Hands is over there somewhere like, yeah, well he's he's happy to be again. It's you know, about getting off the field. It's about getting off the field on third down. Guys, this is what this guy can do for you. This is this I mean, leave it. Leave it to the Cowboys, and

I mean this in a good way. Leave it to the Cowboys. I mean, this has got to be one of the most interesting picks of the draft so far. I mean, like I said at the top of yesterday, I mean Gregory was mentioned in the same breath as Leonard Williams. I mean maybe you know, just yeah, when this all started, he was considered a top five, top

ten guy. You get him at sixty and I mean, you know, this is nothing new to anybody that follows this team that a guy who's got an interesting off the field life is something you have to look out for. So always an adventure with this team. And hey, if they hit, then this guy has the potential to be an absolute monster. You were you feel better now? I mean, you were very critical. Every everything I said before stands. I'm not going to change my opinion just because they

picked him. I think it's a very it's a boomer bust pick. I mean, in my opinion at least. I mean, I'm not You're right, I'm not. I'm not sure how well he fits the scheme. I'm not sure how well they can keep him under control, keep him motivated, whatever it is they got to do. I mean, I don't He's not like a maniac or anything, but it's it's

a concern. Otherwise he wouldn't be at sixty. You look at looking at my draft board, the Cowboys draft in the last two days and a top sixty picks drafted, my number sixteen and my number twenty two players in this draft. Right, that's a haul and if you hit on these picks then it all pays off. But again risk reward at this point, the draft number sixty, How

I'm all for it. Yeah, Can I ask this question you guys more concerned about the off the field stuff or just the kind of the scheme fit his ability to put on a little bit of weight. Honestly, a little bit of both. Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, you have to consider both two two hundred and thirty five pounds. I mean, Devin funchis probably weighs two hundred

and thirty five pounds. I think what you have to think about this player when you look at and you know, hopefully we'll get one of the coaches in here later, you know, to have an opportunity to visit about Randy Gregory. I think that we have to think about a guy playing in a rotating system. I don't think you're gonna ask Randy Gregory to play sixty five seventy plays if they get if they get a Nickel situation, I guarantee you're gonna see Randy Gregory playing at the right end.

You're gonna see Jeremy Mintscy kick inside play, play maybe the three. And then also then you get Crawford and then the Marcus Lawrence. Here's you know, and that's a rotating system, and that's you know, something that I think, but he will get challenged, He will get challenged, and hey,

there's no doubt about let's not forget that. If they're I mean, there might not be a better group of guys to coach a project player than Marinelli, Leon Lett and Ben Blooming those guys, I mean, anybody good at reading. I mean, if you look in the room in the immediate aftermath, yeah, it was. I mean you saw how excited these guys were. I mean right, and I think they know they got a really high talent at a really low pick. Yeah. Um again. I mean it is

interesting just all the concerns that we've already listed. I mean, I think in the case of Byron Jones, you get a really good player who you didn't think was going to be there, who you're not ever worried about him as an off the field guy, and now you got all that other stuff to worry about. So I mean it's I mean, there you go, there's your answer right there. Stephen Jones and Will McClay just fift bumped the hell

out of each other. Yeah. Uh so. I mean, well, Jason Garrett's a man sitting there and you know, and he's going to be tested on this one too, ye. I mean, this is where and I'm positive he's he's thinking about that. I mean, he's the he's the right kind of guy. That's his contra you know, and they were watching, you know, Randy Gregor get interviewed on stage and they all kind of sitting there like concerned parents. Therefore it's over there fist bumping. Yeah, well it it will.

What do you I didn't mean to interrupt, you know, go ahead. What you know? He's two hundred three to five pounds? How why does he fit the scheme? What? What's the realistic projection? I mean, you know a lot of people want a defensive end because Hardy's probably not gonna be available for six to ten weeks. What's I mean? What can this guy do right off the bat? This is a guy that you think probably wants to put

on weight. I mean yeah, but the problem he run into is he's at a he's at a school where there is a good strength program Nebraska. Yeah, I mean would naturally saying maybe he can't put on weight. That's what you have to be concerned at. Is if you're a scout, you have to be concerned at. This guy is a lean up the field rush player. I I mean maybe if you put weight on him, he won't

be as good. Is that They They've got to find a comfort spot for him where he could play at it as an elite pass rusher and I want to say, there's times where you see elite play, and then there's other times where you don't see elite play. And that's why I liked him better as a linebacker more so than a hand on the ground, you know, trench player, because of you look at him and his wrists, his ankles very skinny, and that's an indication right there about

how much weight he can actually put on. I just I don't believe he can sustain two hundred and fifty pounds consistently. But I hope, I hope this team proves me wrong. If the Cowboys were still running a three four, I'd be And I mean, I'm not saying that this is a bad pick. I think you know, when you talk about the value, when you talk about what they feel comfortable with it. Oh, they they feel more than

comfortable with it. They're pumped. I'm so. I'm not trying to write him off right away, but I will say that if they were running a three four scheme here, I'd be much more excited. But off field stuff combined with scheme fit makes me what's the word I'm looking for, I'm thank you, Yeah, I am concerned. It's a word that Jason Garrett really doesn't like us to ask him about are you concerned? No, he doesn't. He also doesn't like hypotheticals, and he doesn't like players. Right, I will

gladly eat Crow if he's a boss. I'm not not rooting against the guy. I'm just trying to give my honest assessment. Yeah, so that's where we are. But hey, like I said, I think, really, when you think about it, just in terms of value, you get a top five to fifteen guy at sixty. It's hard to argue against that kind of value. Right Again, we talk about the character guys. At some point somebody, somebody decides it's worth it, and it was sixty, and I have a hard time

arguing that that's wrong. And also Duke and Tevin Coleman and a couple other good runs still there, still on the board for still there tonight. Realistically, there was a chance we thought we'd be talking about this pick last night, and so sure, how much better does it feel to

be talking about it at sixty? It feels loads loads better talking about it knowing that we already have Byron Jones in the building, a player who the utmost character quote unquote safer pick, So yeah, I think you'd feel Hey, hey, ask a question here, just an observation from what we've seen. Does it feel like that Stephen Jones had to be talked in excume Jason Garrett had to be talked into that pick. Yeah, Garrett looked like the least excited guy in the room. So yeah, yeah, that's why I asked

the question about body language. Yeah, you know, I mean, is that really he? I ranked Stephen as the most excited guy and Will McClay right behind him at number two. Yeah. Yeah, and so and there's a lot of work, you know, there's a lot of work that Jason's kind of chewing on his glasses right here, just like, what have we what do we have waiting? Okay, the draft continues on as we go here. Uh, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, oh wow, have gotten to have have got this pick, the sixty

first pick from the uh from the Indianapolis Colts. So that means the Buccaneers are on the clock, followed by the Packers. Seahawks will get their first pick of the draft, and then we finished up the round with the New England Patriots. What we're gonna do is, let's take a little let's take a little break right now, kind of regroup here and then come back. We'll have those picks, Buccaneers, packers,

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Ondellas Cowboys dot Com. Back here with the continuing coverage of the NFL Draft from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. UH, Brian broad Us and Jeff Kavanaugh currently in UH watching these final few picks in around. We were gonna we're gonna have uh Randy Gregory. We'll be joining us here in UH briefly UH to visit talk about his experience

in Chicago and really what he's gone through here. The last couple of days, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers made their selection Ali Moore Pett the tackle from Hobart and let's go to the commission right now for the Green Bay Packers.

Throughout the Green Bay Packers, please welcome from Al Gordon State University, a seventh round pick in the nineteen ninety nine draft by the Packers wide receiver Donald Driver with the sixty second pick in a two thousand NFL draft, Al Green Bay Packers Gold pack gold Quentin Rose Deep as a back from the universe of Miami, Ohio. Well Quentin Rawlins the the cornerback from Miami, Ohio. Quentin Rawlings, uh, Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers make the selection

there with Quentin Rollins. We've talked about Quentin Rawlins as a guy that potentially could play as UH could play as a cornerback. Some people like him play him as a safety. Uh that he was because you're talking about a guy that was a college basketball player, yes, and then gets in one year of college football is one year, right, right, So he plays it for one year. And to me, how advanced he was at the position. I thought I would see a much more raw player, right, And I'm not.

And that's not to say that he's got this thing figured out and perfected. But I was expecting to see just a naturally athletic guy that wasn't really sure what he was doing. And I thought he showed an understanding of his own concepts. I didn't think he was bad fundamentally, and I think that people are looking at his smarts and the recognition that he shows, combined with his athleticism and his willingness to tackle, and that's where that projection

comes from. I could see him playing either spot. I was just really surprised at how advanced he was for a guy that you're talking about a one year football player. Yeah, and he got his eye, he had to have it again, his eyes stuck in the backfield and some of those things that you know happened with kind of raw players. Yeah, KT, this is your team. Now. Last night you mean you had you know, you took Randall. Yeah, and now you

know Ted Thompson doing some stuff with this secondary though. Yeah, I guess said that they're not afraid to get like a safety corner, you know, hypertype player Micah hides another guy that they'll run out there. They just got two of them home. Yeah, they's got two like that. So we've got the Seahawks selection now up on the podium. Okay, with the sixty third pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft. My team, the Seattle Seahawks. Hey, don't don't hate on us, now,

don't hate on us. Okay, the Seattle Seahawks Celettin Frank Clark. Oh, defensive, we're okay, Hey, we're okay because we just took ours. No, but Brian's pet cat, I know, but it worked out, okay, Brian, because we got our pass rusher Now we can let Frank go because now we're worried about our runner. Now we're worried about our runner. Frank can go wherever he wants. Got our pass Rush Ryan is screaming internally right now.

It's okay, I am screaming internally right now. No. I will say this though, if they had not gotten Randy Gregor make it lessens the blow. Yeah, if they went Runner, we'd be said, we've all talked and has anybody had? And that will the Seattle Seahawks first pick after they made the trade with the New Orleans Saints, so they did not have a first round pick, but they take Frank Clark, who I have to say this, my intern learned well, my intern, John Snyder. That is a story

that I don't get tired of. My intern who worked at my side, trusted intern who's now went in Super Bowls up in Seattle. Candy man, right, absolutely, the candy man he is. Uh. He went and got a guy. And that's something with Seattle. And we all talked about the talent with Frank. John will tell you this though about those players he has util But and let's go, this will be the final pick in the round and it would be the world champion Negld Patriots to announced

see New England Patriots selection. Please welcome from the University of Michigan. A first round pick in the nineteen ninety five draft by the Patriots, defensive back Ty Law. Good player was a good player with the sixty fourth pick of the two fifteen draft, the Super Bowl forty nine champion New England Patriots do that. Jordan Richards, defensive back Stanford. All right, Jordan Richards the pick from Stanford five, ten to eleven. I think there was probably a couple of

safeties that we thought better. But who are us? Two questions the world champion New England Patriots. But yeah, we'll get into Jordan Richard cheering and that ends. Uh, that ends the second round of the draft. We are now going into the third round. And that means that the Indianapolis Colts, in a trade, that trade that they made with Tampa, they opened the third so the Indianapolis Colts

will open the third round. We now know that the picks are five minutes per selection, so, uh, the Indianapolis Colts on the clock. But getting back to John Snyder playing in a rotating system. You know, we talk about Frank Clark. We've all loved the the ability, we all love the first step explosion. Then we all thought he was a second round player. I felt like on the Draft show and then some of the stuff that we were studying squeaky clean. If you put a one on him,

I wouldn't be mad at you. Yeah, I mean that. I just the ability was just too much. I mean, and and the fact that he was selected in the second round. I think that's the right spot for him. I really really do so good job by the Seattle Seahawks selecting a player that I love, Jordan Richardson. Like I said, I think there was probably a couple of more h safeties that we maybe would have thought a little bit better than George rich I know, I like

the sample kid from Louis Ball. Keep bringing his name up. Uh, Darren Smith from Fresno was a guy that we talked about. Even the Swan kid from Georgia. Yeah, Holloman was not. No. I like football players that aren't cowards. But that's but that's the truth takes well, but that's what I'm saying. No, if you know Bill Belichick, he picked a guy that they could actually play. And I'm not arguing with you. I just love you, buddy. Can we can we go

backwards for just a second, backwards them. Just the way that this whole thing has turned to me is fascinating, because I spent five hours on the radio today trying to talk people into why I think the Cowboys should and will take a running back in the second round. I've been on that train for about three months now, I'm right there with it, and I'm sitting there trying to explain it to everybody because everybody's talking about you've got to get a pass rusher, You've got to get

a pass rusher. And my whole line was, I can't make them appear out of thin air. Once I get to sixty, I'm gonna have a better player at running back. Now it falls the exact opposite of everything we thought the runners are falling towards ninety one. The pass rusher that nobody thought would be there at sixty. The whole thing we said what everyone thought the value wasn't I didn't think the value would be there at twenty seven, and aside from Gregory, it really wasn't right. Which, yeah, no,

you're absolutely right either way. In the first three rounds. If you could get a corner, an edge rusher and running back and and no matter where it was, we were all gonna be happy with that. Plus that will be it's it's it's perfect. And now I wonder I'm gonna couch that and say, I mean again, we got a long way. Apends on the runner. It depends on the runner. I'm gonna I'm gonna feel a lot less excited if it's well. And I don't know if anybody is.

Anybody did you say something about Mike Davis. I'm rather it's a football player, Okay? Would you at this point because we just named a couple of the runners. It depending on who you ask, they like him differently, but Duke and Tevin Coleman and maybe jay A Zay if you're the Cowboys. Now, are you looking at a spot where, whether it's something in this year's draft or next year's draft, that you think that that player is clearly a cut above that next group of running backs where you want

to move up here? Is that? Is that something that you think about at some point as you watch how this plays out. I don't know. Sitting work, Sitting puts served you pretty well through two picks in the draft. I just I'm just looking at war room cam right now, and Jerry Jones leaning over talking to Jason Garrett, and and you know, he's it looks like he's having this fatherly talk with him, trying to explain, you know, the thoughts that they had and what they might do and

then the planet. And I think that Garrett, uh, you know, he's listening very intently. He trusts Jerry Jones, he trusts these scouts. He knows it's his job to take this player. But to talk about tramp, I think now and as the cult selections up, let's go to it. I'm sorry, let's go to select that John Smith. Okay, little cornerback,

good player, good little corbette. But to get back, I could say, uh, you know, I think that to me if if they in fact they're gonna have to go through this whole thing and this this whole third round, and and maybe you do talk about that, maybe Jerry Jones has a plan to go get somebody like a Duke Johnson or Coleman or one of those guys, you know, and maybe he's talking to Garrett that and Jerry's one

of those guys. He's a very Jerry's a very emotional type of a person, so he understands a little bit what Garrett might be going through right now with the player. Right, and we've we've gotten a lot of questions about this, so it's probably something worth looking out for. Two things. First of all, Jagie's knee scared you at sixty right, right? Does it scare you at ninety one? Well? I think that again. I always talking about the fourth round guys,

you know I would talk about it. You know, players that are injured, are they you know, fourth round type of players? Uh? You know this, this kid has a situation. You cannot uh, you cannot fix his bone on bone. You know you've had terrible knee injuries myself. But he is one hundred percent healthy today. It could be next week, could be in five, ten years, and if it's in

four years, you don't care. But that's the way these guys, The way these guys, uh go through a running back, You go through a four year running back and then you know, and then that's what you uh, you know, his contracts up and then away we go. So uh, you know, that's the kind of thing you have to consider. Right, And we've gotten plenty of reader questions about it. You both brought it up yourself, trading up. Is that a

scenario that that you feel good about? Your ninety first pick is worth one hundred and thirty six points, your fourth round pick is worth forty five, and your fifth is worth twenty six. So all in all, you're looking at roughly two hundred points worth of value for your next three picks. Yeah, I think you've got You've gotten at least some time to figure it out though, right, you know. And I'm just one guy talking here on

the on the radio and into the camera. Okay, it seems we got Randy Gregory, and we're gonna we're gonna shuffle out here and uh and Nick Eatman's gonna come and join us, and so we are gonna get a chance to visit with the newest member of the Dallas Cowboy Uh of the Dallas Cowboys. Excuse me, Randy Gregory. And as Nick Eatman slides on the headset, UH, Douglas is gonna pipe us on in and so uh, here

we go. Randy, are there here? Hello, Randy, It's Brian brought us from Dallas Cowboys dot Com and uh welcome, Uh to Uh, we're doing our draft show tonight, and uh, we're all here in the studio very excited about you and you coming on board with the Dallas Cowboys. Were we were sweating along right with them trying to get you on this football team. And there's a lot of guys here in this room they're very happy to have a guy that has elite pass rush talent. So talk

about your journey to this point. It's ended very well for you though it really had you know, it's been a long one as you can imagine, you know, you know, some both flown the road, but uh, you know, I'm in a great spot right now with a great city, great team, great coaches, UM, just a great staff personnel, and I couldn't be more honored to you know, represent that kind of organization. Randy Hey, David Helman with Dallas

Cowboys dot Com. Congratulations man, Um, just really, you know, obviously we've been watching this whole thing play out quite a ride for you. Um, can you just take us through your emotions. I imagine there's probably some low points there over these last two nights and then obviously ending on a big high. Just kind of what you've been

experiencing up to getting picked. I mean exactly what you expect, you know, a little bit of disappointment, um, you know last night, but uh, you know, I after sitting down and and really you know, thinking about it was real humbling for me, you know, and it's I'm glad I actually went to the draft experienced this and uh, you know,

like I said, I couldn't be more honored. And you know, it was definitely worth the wait, and uh, you know, all the other emotions, all the bad emotions that came with it, it was definitely worth because I definitely feel like I'm a great organization and great sass. Hey Randy, this is a Nick Eatman from the Dallas Cowboys website. Can you talk about your meetings with the Cowboys there leading up to this, whether visits here or at the combine or just did you get a sense that Dallas

would be one of those teams interested? Yeah, a little bit. You know, I met with him with the top thirty visits, and uh, I felt like it probably went the best out of all my visits, especially you know, me with coach Marinelli, and I think me and him, um, you know, we we definitely click, you know, He's the type of coach I need, type of coach I want and I like, and uh, he's gonna push me to the limits. You're gonna give me to the level I need to be a help this team out and get the team where

they need to be. And you know, they have great ownership, and I just I can't say how much I'm honored, you know, to be a part of this organization, really can Randy, you know, and we're joined here by Randy Gregory, the newly acquired UH defensive end, very talented defensive end for from the University of Nebraska, and Randy, you know, when we get the opportunity and I and I'm a former NFL scout and I dragged these guys all into the to my room there and let him watch tape

with me. And the one thing that we get really excited about watching you play football is your ability to capture that edge and get around it. And you know, you're one of those guys that you know from an outstanding program though as coach Marinelli or those guys in your thirty visit, when they took in that room, they talk about some of the plans that they might have for you when you got that opportunity to come this direction. Definitely.

You know, we sat now for a long time watch film, Um, you know, watch a little a little bit of film with them, and uh, watch a lot of Simi and Rights. You know, sim I don't reminded Hill of Simion Rights, and uh, you know I have to watching him the definitely guy. I want to know Monel myself after and it's I just really feel like I can really help this team out. You know, I think I've done a lot of couge level, but I definitely think, um, you know, that staff can get me to a whole nother level.

I think I haven't scratched the surface yet and I'm really excited to get a part of this organization. Randy. One of the things that some people talk about with you, if you're gonna talk about the things that you want to see somebody improve at or a possible concern is just the weight that you play at as a possible defensive end and the two hundred and thirty five pound range.

Have they talked to you about trying to put on weight or is that something that you feel like you can play at that weight and still be effective at defensive end? Well, I think I've been you know, effective to a certain extent, you know, at that weight, but that's definitely not the way I want to play it. You know, You're definitely gonna put some more weight on me, and you know it's a work in progress, and I definitely feel like, you know, like I said, I can

play at that position. You know, whether you know I'm two forty five, two fifty whatever it is, you know, I'm gonna get after the quarterback and that's you know, that's what they want me to do. Randy, you talked about bumps in the road. What what did you tell specifically the Cowboys and Jason Garrett Jerry Jones on giving them the confidence that you can overcome those things and you will be the right kind of guy that Jason

Garrett always preaches about. Well, I think, you know, it kind of started with the fact that, um, you know, I made a stake. I really didn't make a mistake. But at the same time, UM, you know, I felt like they saw me as a still a high character guy. Um that made it the mistake mistake. You know, I'm young, I'm twenty two. Um, you know, I just this whole

process has really opened up my eyes. And you know, one of the big things was sitting in front of you know, Jerry Jones and this guy I've looked at for so long, and um, you know, me and him really had a heart and heart and uh, you know, I left it that day. I really felt like that was a team I need to be with. And um that's the truth, it really is. You know, I couldn't I couldn't be more honor. You know. It's funny how

things work. Um, I was joking about it earlier. I was wearing red and white, you know, yesterday because of Nebraska, and then today I was wearing uh blue with silver and white. My age and my dad and my brother. It was it was just weird, you know. And uh, I'm glad everything, you know, worked out the way it did, Randy, you know, and and as we as we go forward here now, you know, and and again we've talked about your elite play and stuff like that, and you went

through this first round in draft. You talk about the humbling experience. Though, does Randy Gregory come to Dallas with a big chip on his shoulder right now? Of all the fun you know it and and the and the thing is the organization cares and stuff like that. The players who you know, Jerry Jones, does you know? So it's it's it's me perfect and um, you know I'm gonna come in here with that same mentality, and uh, like I said, we're gonna throw up the elite goes.

All right, Randy, We're gonna let you go out. One quick question. One of the quarterbacks you're gonna be trying to to uh sack is r G three? Now are you r G one? RG? What is that? You know, an initial that they throw at you. Yeah, thats to call you RG, but you know you can't do too much with it. And already three he's kind of already got that go on for him. But uh yeah, I definitely will go after him, you know I will. I will try to sack as much as I can. You know,

I'm not too worried about the nickname. But all right, maybe I can get a nickname, you know, after I get a few seconds the league. Awesome. All right, Well that's Randy Gregory, the newest Dallas Cowboys defensive vent for everybody here. But we really appreciate absolutely you've given us some time here and good luck to you here in Dallas.

Congrats man, thank you, appreciate you at all right, good luck, all right, Randy Gregory, he's a first round guy, I mean, but he's a player too, is a first round player too. And again, the off the field things he's gonna have to address. He's talked about a humbling experience, and we we kind of talked about this with Byron Jones obviously opposite opposite, Oh yeah, completely, But you know when a guy can have a moment like that and everything that's gone on with him in the last two days and

come on here and he just lost millions of dollars. Absolutely, he went through you know, I don't want I mean, his draft stock fell, all this scrutiny, all this stuff. He has a elation when he finally gets picked everything, and then he comes on here and gives very direct, honest, open answers, really well thought out answers. You know that that says a lot to me, that that he's got that kind of composure employees immediately after all this crazy

emotional stuff just happened. I do have one thing and I wouldn't maybe I should have said that to him or ask him about it. He says he he made a mistake. Yeah, he's made more than one though, right. I mean that's kind of why we're here where we are. I mean, Shane Ray kind of made one, yeah, and this guy's made a little bit more than one. It was more of a pattern of mistakes, which I think is kind of a lot. I think it's real important

for us. And you ask the questions of him now, But when you get to see a man face to face and you can kind of see, you know, ask him the questions and see how he reacts and stuff like that, And I think that's what you'll know a lot about Randy Gregory as a person. If he can answer that question, look at you in the face and say, hey, I'm a I'm a I did I was wrong. I feel bad. You know. That's where I think you'll know a lot about it. But he's still he's got a

he's got a lot of hurdles. In my opinion, he's still gonna Here's here's a I had a conversation with a guy today that deals with some of these players and a lot of things they go through on and off the field. He says that when you're dealing with the with the program, I guess and he'll probably come right into the program. Absolutely. Um, it's it's it's not so much how many tests you fail or whatever, it's the progress you make and the willingness to work with them.

Are you gonna go to rehab? Are you gonna go to counseling? Are you gonna to be there, show up on time? If you show the effort, they are pretty lenient there. So he's got to have that attitude that we saw and say, you know what I want, I'm not gonna mess this up again, and I'm not gonna let down Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. And if he can do that, that's the hope. He's gone a shot. I mean, oh, one more thing to that. The guy. The guy said this is most important. We've drafted players

with much worse. Yeah, I believe that completely. I have no prop And now why are we doing this? Well, they probably retired of us commenting about what's going on in time. I don't know is are the two backs still on the board? Yes, well they were when I mean we've been kind of pani. Yeah, let me go back and we're two Oakland's pick is gonna come up here, and uh, we talked about the Colts at sixty five took John Smith uh from the quarterback from Central Florida. Uh.

Tennessee was next. They took Jeremiah uh Putassi, the tackle from Utah. That was Tennessee took, and then Jacksonville took h at sixty seven took the guard aj Can, the center guard from h from South Carolina. And then we're waiting right now here for the Oakland Raiders pick. That will be at number sixty eight. I will I will say that fourth to go right now. I don't know if that's enough. Well, here's the Redskins. Well, it looks

like the Okay, the Redskins have made a deal. They're behind Oakland, so it looks like the Seahawks have come forward. The Seahawks gonna take. It's gonna take me a minute too, Yeah, okay, hitch up to everything that's happened. This is this will be the Raiders selection, So let's go to it. Kent Garrison from Northwestern University the twenty third overall pick in the two thousand and two draft by the Raiders. Linebacker

and Illinois senator Napoleon Harris, Thank you. With the sixty eighth pick into two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Clive Walford, tidy end, University of Miami. So Clive Walford number two tight ended. Yeah, Clive Walford. And he's one from my favorite places if you're a player from this particular city in Florida, I'm drafting to high. He's from bell Glade, Florida. And I'll tell you what all great footall players come from Belleglade, Florida. But anyway,

how did Miami not win more games? Well? Clide Walford though, let me and we've watched Clide Walford play. I personally I love him. I had him right there behind Max Williams. When you talk about a guy that is a better point of attack blocker than you think a tie up guy. He's a finisher though, but I like his athletic ability. I like the way time. But as far as a red zone player, this guy makes a lot of really

nice plays down in the red zone. They throw him stuff underneath, you could throw him stuff in the corner, you can throw him stuff, you know, really all over feel. He's got a solid set of hands, makes a lot of spectacular plays. I think that the Raiders. Once again, they went out and got him, a very athletic player that can help. Yeah. I'll tell you what, if you told me you thought he was the best tight end in this draft, I wouldn't fight you too hard on it.

I think the red zone stuff that you're talking about was it's really really good that when they get him going down the field and they just leave a ball up high, that's a guy that's gonna go get the football and he's gonna compete for it and he'll go he'll do it through content. Okay, here's the Seattle Seahawks selections now in fifteen NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks. So Tyler Lockett, Wow, Tyler Lockett, and there they go. Tyler Lockett. We've talked about him as well, the very talented wide

receiver from Kansas State. Shorter guy, explosive player though, Katie. Yeah, he's very explosive player. And they gave up a lot to get up there, so you know, they wanted to, you know, help out the offense a little bit. Um good route runner, he catches everything with his hands, will go up and snatch it, even though he's a little frail, you know, five ten one eighty. Yeah, but he's shifty. He's gonna help out on special teams. I would assume he's there. He's gonna step in and be their kick

returner and punt returner. That's a dangerous weapon for a team that traded away Percy Harvin last year. They've got a good player who's gonna help out and pretty much all facets to the offense. If I can throw it back to Randy Gregory, yes, um, well yeah, I mean, you know the Cowboys picture. I just thought it was I mean, I thought, really interesting interview overall. Um, and you know, it doesn't it doesn't solidify or cement anything. But and you know, we saw this with Byron Jones today.

We know what lies in front of him. You know, he's talking to the Dallas media right now. Picks in, Dave, excuse me. The second for the Houston Texans, with the seventh pick into twenty fifteen NFL Draft. The Houston Texans said, let Jalen Strong. There he goes receiver. But okay, this pick was originally was the New York Jets pick. So you got the Houston Texans, uh jumping up here, making

a little bit of a jump. Uh, going from their spot in eighty two uh to going to the New York Jets to grab Jalen Strong and go ahead and finish your point and we'll get into jails. That was a great step in the right direction for him. And Nick talked before he got off the air just about you know, commitment, accountability, kind of moving in one direction, showing that you care about correcting the things that made you slip in the draft in the first place. I

just think that was a great step. I don't know if he keeps it up and maintains that over the course of the next you know, well several years, but also the next five or six months, you know, but I think that's at least a great one step in the right direction. Obviously, I was I was advocating for not taking an hour, hour and a half. There's a lot of people that were that felt the same way as you. But and you know, like it's going to take a lot more than that to convince me that

I was wrong in my opinion. But that's a great way to start out, basically, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, and it's just it's risk reward at twenty seven. The things that you're saying when they're true. The concerns that you have at twenty seven, they're magnified at twenty seven. It's enough to make you say, well, I'm not comfortable

taking the player. And you get to sixty and you have those same concerns and you got somebody in your other ear who says, right, but remember remember when he was a top ten player before he failed that drug test. That's a great point. The risk reward is it changes as you go and it's sixty, you know, And I'm a guy that I love the runner Duke Johnson. Yeah, I wanted Duke Johnson in this draft. But when Gregory makes it to sixties, yeah, I'm kind of like, Okay,

I you've got to get your pass rush. Brian's whole mantra this entire time is keep an open mind. I mean that's what he always says. So, uh, you know, and like I said, I'll be happy to eat crow about the guy, and you know, I I hope I do, because it means he's a good player and that, you know, I guess that's one step in the process of of of making me ecrow, of winning people over, I guess, and everything you'd heard is that the environment was so

important to him. If he goes to a place that he's a happy person, and no matter what you know is going on with him, you go to a place where he's a happy person, you can bring out the most and him. And also let Rod Marinelli get his hands on him. Let's see what we can do. And also we need to get him some food. I mean, he'll eat plenty of food here, guys. Some barbecue, absolutely, But I have confidence in this organization's ability to create

a good environment for guy. And the reason I asked him the question about the chip on the shoulder, you know, Oh yeah, I would right before you ask that question. I mean, this is the most scrutinized guy in this draft, right behind jameis Winstea. And I mean having that many million people dissect you and talk about your every move as though they know you has got to be a really frustrating experience. Okay, let's go to We got the

secret audio of Jerry Jones's call to Randy Gregory. Brandy Gregory, Sir Jason Garrett here, I was a gone coach. It's going great. Congratulations. I appreciate it because I'm gonna make you proud. I can promise. I know you will. I know you are. You're ready to get to work. Let's do it, man, I'm ready to win a championship. We've got the fools. Take it one day at a time. We're gonna get you right, We're gonna help our foots. So let's do it. Okay man, We're handing the phone

to Rod Marinelli. Congratulations, thank you. Okay man, Hey Strett, how are you doing? How are you well? You've gotten so many messages for him me, I might as well talk to you. Huh. Hey, you know, like I said, I was thinking the other day and I'm like, I'm really he felt like when I left, I said, you know, the best possible to guy, that's really gonna get me where I need to go to help me help this team out the best well, and I can't. I'm gonna make you guys, so I know you will. Hey, gonna

let you down. Let's dig in now. It's every single day and you gotta go. Okay, that's what I'm counting on now. Okay, I'm gonna I'm here for you too. Hey, be hard on him. I'm gonna be as hard as you can that well, so hey, you handled today really well. All right, all right, cod Okay, you know Jason, I said, Jason Jerry Jones, but Jason Garrett obviously first. Uh you know, and that's something again sounding it sounds like a very sincere man. When we got to talk to him, Uh,

he's uh, he's very happy. He seems very relieved. Uh, you know, but again, Dave, you like talking about it every day. You know, it's going to be a new challenge for him. Yeah, and how he plays will be important. Roger Goodell is at the podium right now for the Chicago selection m H to make the Bears announcement. Please welcome Sam, Thank you, Commissioner Goodell. With the seventy first pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears

select Hernus Grassoo Center from Oregon. There you go, Brasso. I kind of thought that's what Seattle was trading up for at sixty nine. Absolutely. Okay, Well that's a grass through the center. We liked him, we position blocker. But let's go back before we get to into the grass su Let's go back and talk about Jalen Strong if we could. And that pick that goes to the to the Houston Texans at number seventy. They made a trade with the New York Jets. Jeff Jalen Strong is a

guy that we we've kind of busted on about. You know, there's been some quarters in and the PAC twelve that in fact have covered him and sen at UCLA, Nelson at Oregon State. Um, I'll tell you what Peters. Peters, Yeah, I think that he went right about where he belongs. You know, for all the guys talking about him as a first round pick, there's a lot of good in that player. You know, the size, a guy that's over

six two, he's two seventeen, a four four guy. When you look at those measurable as you said, that's a really good player. You watch them run the back shoulder fade. You put him on a team that runs that back shoulder fade and he'll go get a contested ball. He knows how to use his body, he knows how to adjust to the football on that. But when we saw him against the best level of competition you were going to see him against, he had some struggles to get open.

So the good is in there. You know, he lined up everywhere. He'll go underneath, he's got speed, if you can find him in space. There's a whole lot of good. But you go watch him play against the best competition. He played against the guys that are gonna be in the NFL, and I thought he had some struggles to get open when he's on the outside. Yeah, he used his body well and he's going to take the spot of you know, Andre Johnson at some point. Right, maybe

Hopkins lives up to some of his potential. It's kind of more of the explosive guy, and Jalen Strong is kind of more of your possession type of receiver, a big body and makes a lot of sense to give someone a from one of their quarterbacks. I guess they have horrier now right to throw too, right, Well, that's to me again. There was a lot of good I thought of the player, but that I love the size. I do like his ability. There was time where he

would snatch the football. You'd see on those inside routes where you know, when it was a little bit of a contest he catch. But I think getting off the line, that's something he's gonna have to learn. That's something he's gonna have to develop. You know, these NFL corners, they do not want to give you a bunch of room. They want to they want to start, they want to stop you at the line. They want to make you

have to restart. Can Jalen Strong beat press coverage initially and then accelerate down the field separation and give the separation? And I thought that that affected him. That's one of the notes I have in here is that when you can't get off the line of scrimmage, when you can't get clean off of a guy and threaten him up the field, it hurt him on his ability to separate

on his end routes and on his out routes. Because if you have a guy that is able to get his hands on you that well and ride you up or down the field, they can react to your route. So it's just it makes it harder to get separation. It's gonna be big for him, Yeah, And I think that's why, you you know, people initially talked about him

as a first round type of player. You know, there's a there's been wide receivers that have gone into the seconds and second and third rounds and become very productive NFL receivers, and he can be one. He can And I think there was a lot of talent there. I just but I do think that the concerns that we're all voicing is something that Jalen Strong is going to have to work with. Okay, we talk about Grassou the

the center from Oregon. I myself watching him block one on one, I saw a guy that was a very good position blocker, second level blocker, real handsy type of guy. Uh. You know, the Bears, here's the team that we you know, they they've a little long at center with Garza, you know, moving on from there, having to get some young guys up in that offensive line though. But a guy that is a very good position block kind of your typical kind of Oregon offensive lineman. He's not in malanknock in

a mall. Yeah, just kind of cut you off getting away. Yeah, and we saw that too with Fisher. Okay, the pick is now in. This is gonna be the Saint Louis ram Ms will be on the clock. So here we're gonna twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Saint Louis Rams select Jamon Brown, tackle Louisville. Jamon Brown did we did? Okay, So we get into the seventy third pick and Jamal Brown, I'm gonna I'm gonna try and find me some notes that I had on Jamal Brown because I'm trying to

think I know he was in some All Star Game stuff. Well, I can tell you this is gonna be the first pick ro I'm stumped forty one trade. Now that you guys said it, who the hell is this guy? I was gonna act like I knew who who he was and sounds smart Day three type guy. Uh, we're kind of thinking Jamon Brown, though I don't. Did we I'm trying jumping out, jumping out at me because he is. I could just rattle off a bunch of really good

things about offensive tackles, but Jamon Brown. Saint Louis thinks they're being real smart right now. Well they they they drafted one of the best running backs in the draft. Well, the best running back in the draft. So let's uh, I didn't think of DIGGI zooa, Duke Johnson, Bryce Petty, Brett Hunley, T. J. Clemings, Carl Davis, P. J. Williams, Eli Harold, Michael Bennett. We're gonna be on the board and hear Jamon Brown, Eli Harold. But it happened, Yeah,

it just happened. Yeah, well, I I just this is where this is the point in time where you hope you have somebody around you. This is where this is where you need Dane. Where's Dan Dan? We have Dane right here? Yeah, I mean names book will give you the give you the summary. Um, he didn't go to the combine because he had a lower body strain. Where did this guy go to school? All right, John Miller, that's the guards know. It's great. Like a week ago, I told you and Jeff to get the hell out

of the office and stop watching table. We should have stayed and watched John, like somebody's gonna slip through the cracks. Well, here we go it. Pick it. Pick seven at seventy one, not two, not one, seventy one. Say this, there's where we're kind of waiting. Though. For each player that goes by that's not Tevin Coleman or Duke Johnson really kind of high five each other. I gotta believe they put the thing back up over the cam because they're up

to something. Well, now I didn't miss anything, did I. Carl Davis is still there too. He is still the Carl Davis is still there. So I got three survivors from my group that I was comfortable with. Six, let's talk about the guys that we do know and Atlanta now on the clock. But Atlanta was a team that we were worried about that as a running back. The type of a team, Yeah, that's DeVante Freeman. That's their depth chart basically. So I think that you know, we

hear it right here. We've talked, we've talked about, we've talked about, we've talked about these running backs. We thought it might be a second round run. It's it's looking like more in the third round. Uh, you know, if in fact a guy like Tavin Coleman goes, if in fact, you know, if we get Duke Johnson to go. But Atlanta was a team that we talked about meeting a running back, and Katie, you said, who was there? Who's their depth chart on the Who's it's it's DeVante Freeman

from Florida State and it's Antoine Smith. Yeah, and that makes too much sense for me. Yeah, it makes way too much sense. It's just too much value at these running backs right now. It's just I can't believe it. Do we overvalue that? We wrong? Like we're we so focused on the need at running back. Though we're not wrong. I don't believe we're not wrong. This is a really good cropper, and it's hard for me to say that we did overvalue it because two guys went in the

top twenty. You know, Yeah, two guys went in the top twenty, So maybe maybe everybody just kind of assumed that their guy would be there. I don't know. It's I'm very surprised that at least one of these two guys hasn't been taken by sixty and yelled Yelden was taken right at the top of the second round. So it's not like nobody's interested. But I'm stunned that Tevin Coleman is still there. I'll tell you that. Yeah, I didn't think they'd get to sixty, and we're sitting here

hoping that they fall to ninety. I mean, it's shot. We're just gonna sit here and hope. Okay, where are we We're not gonna complain, We're gonna sit here and hope. No, don't be a woss Tell me right, And like how when when can we where? When can we start talking about a trade when one of them we probably well, you're gonna lose one here so when one of them go, where do you feel comfortable moving to? Where do you We're at seventy three, they have the ninety first pick.

What's my five worth? And how far? You're five? Of your five is worth twenty six points? How far does twenty six get me up in the round? Twenty six could get you to about the eighty eight or eighty seventh pick. So not far, not far at all. Yeah, I'm giving you next year's pick. Come on, I'm coming for you. What about what about your fourth? You're not interested in moving your fatch? What worth? Again? Give me some matham? The four you're four is worth forty five.

You combine that with your third, you've got one hundred and oh one hundred and eighty one points. Yeah, here's the commissioner. Excuse me, I looks like that they've taken o a commissioner longer make it big fits the Falcons. With to seventy third pick in the two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Tevin Coleman. Dang it, well, here's the on. It wouldn't Duke. I'm not actually I like, I'm not even gonna pretend like I'm pissed off. He's

he's still here in seventy three. He was supposed to go at forty three. It's hard for me to act like it's some big disappointment that hurts right there. I will brought I mean brought us his pets. Well, let me tell you this though. I I had this kid in the second round. I think when you start talking about the second best back in the draft, this was my kid. And I'm like, again, another team that I get to walk down the field and watch this kid warm up next season when he comes to AT and

T Stadium. So they are all coming here, All of the guys that we wanted are winding up on teams that are playing the Cowboys. Yeah, and and but I will say this, the kid. You know when you when you Matt Ryan, you're gonna be able to hand the ball to this kid. You're gonna be able to to let him run and the zone runner. He's productive, he could beat angles, he can catch the football. You know,

there's there's so many positive things about this player. And the fact that he played on a bad toe and got as many yards as he did, I think says an awful lot about the situation that he was dealt. We watched the tape that that Indiana offensive line just no bueno and that to me, and hey, there's another one of my buddies down there in Atlanta, Tommy Dimitroff Thomas, Congratulations, you got you a hell of a football player right there.

I wish that he could have had a star on his helmet, but that's not going to be the case right now. All right, So all right, you guys talk. I'm no, no, no, because I want to talk about what you're talking about. Because we've nailed this draft so far. We sat on the patient we got We didn't twenty seven. We were gonna get our corner. We got him. We waited at sixty patiently, perfectly, and got our pass rusher. My runner is not leaving this board. We're finding a

way to go up. We need to do some math and we need to go get Duke Johnson. All right, that's what we need. You're starting to panic a little. Yes, I'm I'm standing. We're going to get Duke Johnson. Figure out the math. Okay, Well, here we go. We got a pick in you're for the New York Giants. Here we go, can't we got to pick for the Giants. And it looks like we're not gonna get the pick for the Giants because Kent's in there visiting with our boss.

So great, can't while you're in there with the boss, y'all figure out how we're gonna get up to get Duke jump. Will we just miss but we'll just miss it? Oh dig Zo, the guys we've been talking about for an hour and a half, we're finally starting to get picked. Oh Diggi Zuwa is the is the selection by the New York Giants. So here's another guy that you get to face twice a year. I think, Yeah, that's that's a good They're all going to cowboys, Like what's going on?

You sound like they're playing in right now? They going on? Katie, talk to me a bill about about Oz. Yeah, he's he's a he's a good player. Um, probably gonna play left defensive end, so probably gonna play on that side. More of a run stoppers and you know, to me, it's kind of more of a guy that you're gonna maybe put across from to Marcus Lawrence if you were

if he was a cowboy. Um he wasn't. I didn't see him unleashed a lot on film, you know, to where he was just hey, sit back and maybe it was a scheme thing, scheme thing all the way you'll get the quarterback. We didn't see a whole lot of that, but he was an impressive player, a guy I think on our board you know we had in the second we have, yeah, but he was a guy that we thought, you know, there could be some interested at defensive end. But uh, I'll take Gregory over O DIGGI zoos. We're

talking about it that way. It's a it's a good combination of the athleticism and the right sort of size, a guy that's over six three, a guy that's two hundred and seventy pounds, and when you talk about the measurables and how he is a fairly explosive athlete for a guy that you're talking about at left defensive end, and you mentioned that maybe they didn't ask him to do it a lot, but I think that is a guy that shows you the ability to do both the

ability to be strong enough to stand up an offensive lineman and play the run and the ability to rush the pastor a little bit so in that spot in the third round, I think that makes sense, and I think that's a good pick. Well, o DIGGI ZOOI. He will be a New York Giant come this time. We'll see him next this season. Excuse me rushing as the Giants have always done a night job with there, with those pressure players. And yeah, I think I think KT's

right about the player. When you talk about him, it's like he almost played him as a two gap guy instead of just the wider you put him and the more you allow him to get up the field, the better shot he has when he plays as a head up. Why a head up like a head up a five technique and tries to two gap and he can't play that way. You could kick him down inside two. You know, you watch the US right from three a little bit, you can. You can watch the USC game. That's really productive.

I didn't think he was a productive in the Texas game. Okay, The next next group that's on the board, next team it's on the board is at seventy five is the New Orleans Saints. Okay, Now we've talked about quarterback here before this is we were talking about quarterback to the Saints at thirty one. Yeah, and then but also then some in the second round as well. I was out of the room. I didn't miss a Petty or Huntley pick up. No, you did not. You did not miss

as I didn't miss. No, they're all there. They're all there. Now. See that, That to me is where you start. You know, if this team is in fact thinking about replacing in a future day, not now, but replacing, uh, I think is dumb. But go ahead, Well you're okay, you're from the city. I mean, I know you cover this football team, but to talk about it from the perspective, I think it's this legendary. But say they're like the Cowboys. They're

gonna have to make this journey someday. But there are a lot like the Cowboys in the sense that if they're gonna win, it needs to be in the next you know, two or three years. And why just why we used to pick on a guy that's not gonna play. Well, you're talking about future picks. I mean, this is a team that had two first round picks. You gotta feel

like you got two third round picks too. Yeah, did the Graham Did the Graham trade not signify in any way to you that maybe they're already thinking about how they're gonna rebuild it, not really honestly. I mean, like, I mean, you know, they got a good offensive linement out of it, and you got a guy to protect the pocket Breezes five ten and five eleven. He needs a good pocket. You got jar. We question Pete, though we questioned pet I mean, and it's Day liked him more,

but we I I have my questions about Pete. You've got Breese better protected now than you did at the start of free agency. I mean, you got Max Hunger, you got Pete. If you think he's any good, h I don't think Drew Breese needs great skill players, you know. I mean he won the Super Bowl with like not pro bowlers. H So no, and I think, I mean he's probably got three years max, maybe four, I don't know. Uh. And I just I don't see Bryce Petty as a

guy that's gonna do much for me. And by the time he is able to do anything for me, it's contract will be up anyway. That's I mean. I feel the same way about the Cowboys. I would be bummed out by a Cowboys pick of a quarterback for the very same reasons. So at ninety one, I mean, we still got Jeff is fighting for Duke Johnson here right now? Well I looked I'm not fighting for Duke at ninety one, I'm fighting for Why are other teams still picking this is?

Let's get up there. We could. We could maybe get to eighty one with the four. You give up that's Buffalo. You give up your three in your four to get to Buffalo. I had a huge and who we talked about as maybe being interested in a running back. I would do that. Would you guys do that? You're three in the four, yet seven picks away, you're three in your four are worth about uh your well, your four is worth forty five and so that's about a forty

nine point difference. It's it's it's in that range where Buffalo might agree. So we would. We would not get we would not have the pick to start today Tomorrow, you'd sit through the entire round unless you want to give something up. Next year, you would have a fifth and two sevenths to close out your draft. Yeah, but you would get the duke. You would get a corner you didn't think didn't. You would get a pass rusher you didn't think you were getting, and you would get

a running back at his silly value. Let's go get get just just done sitting. We throw the fourth round pick out of here if I can have Randy Gregory, Duke Johns. We just I'm sorry, we just missed the pick there. And who's the third one off? Okay? Grayson is all right, Oh okay, you worry about that. You can't. You're doing a great job in there, and I'm I'm sit there talking about players. Are so okay, Garrett Grayson. We we talked about a quarterback. It's not the order

we had them. Yeah, they took instead of taking instead of taking Bryce Petty or or Huntley for that matter, they take Grayson. Uh, the quarterback out of out of excuse me, out of Colorado state. So that would put uh, let's see here on the clock, should be the Minnesota Vikings. Unless I'm missing something on it, it's the chief Okay, it's the Chiefs. I'm sorry. You're right, Kat, that's a pick that they they obtained. So the Chiefs at seventy

six are now on the clock. Let's talk a little bit about Grayson and what we saw potentially down in New Orleans. I'll tell you what we saw. I think we saw the arm talent was there. I think we saw an accurate, strong armed guy who goes down the field a decent amount. I don't think you saw really bad decision making. I thought that I thought that there

was some really good with this guy. My biggest issue is I felt like he got locked onto would target too often right like he would take the snap wherever he was going is where he was going, and sometimes that would lead to a poor decision. I remember a play where he has a guy squatting on a stop route. They're probably in cover two, and he's still throwing it like that's just where he was gonna go with it. But when he's not doing that stuff, I thought we saw a guy that he had the arm talent. He

goes down field. He you know, he looks like a guy that you could turn into something or take a shot. I like till he stood in the pocket to deliver the football. I think there was a lot. I think there's some mobility in this kid too, and he's taller. He's a tall quarterback, so you don't have to worry about the middle of the pocket so much. With this guy. You think this is maybe a wide receiver. I have

the Chiefs addressed that at all. Well, the Chiefs have not addressed a wide receiver spot and they got Jeremy Macklin and a whole bunch of zip Yeah, a whole bunch of NATA. Yeah. I think that he feels like if you look at the receivers and we talked about Hardy, we haven't really talked about right. But here's the picks in Kent I things have traded the seventy six pick to the Kansas City Chiefs. Okay, with the seventy six pick in a two thy fifteen NFL draft the Kansas

City Chiefs. So Chris Connley, there you go. Receiver Georgia, receiver from Georgia. Workout warrior. See for all the guys who said that about Byron Jones, I disagreed Chris Conley. If you call him a workout warrior, I don't think I would fight you on that. You know, I think he had six hundred and some odd yards last year, But when you turn on the tape, I don't think the tape matched up to what he measured out. As it's a guy that his run, his shuttles, his jumps,

the explosiveness, I didn't see it. The same on a football field as you saw it to coming by. Yes, his cuts weren't real smooth um, you know, but he wasn't used a lot, you know. I think there's some untapped potential. He's a guy that you can just try to get the ball in his hands as much as possible. And God knows, Alex Smith that needs some targets to work with. They're trying to throw a touchdown to put

him across from or in the slaughter or whatever. With Jeremy Macklin on the field at the same time, you get two burners that you gotta pay attention to when you're game planning for that offense. But that's definitely like a project. Maybe a guy who's a gunner, you know, right now special team, right before he's sliding in and getting the ball. A don't. Yeah, I thought Kansas City needed a real receiver, you know, and we've you know, if you look, look, you talk about a guy like

you know Green, you know, Florida State. I think that Green has got yeah, a more talent than then this kid. Normally I would avoid doing this, but it is our esteemed colleague Dane brugler Uh telling us that Duke Johnson will be a Cleveland brown here. Well that see, that's that's where you know, and it is it is Duke. He has been central to our broadcast. So I felt a great night. Yeah, since worth it. Sit down, We're through this, a great night. We're gonna get through this. Well,

Dan doesn't stop us from trading up. Well, they picked him, we can still trade for him. Well, here's here's the New Orleans Saints. Excuse me, the Cleveland Browns. I'm looking to pick ahead. The Cleveland Browns are on the clock. Dane has been very accurate. Dane is Dane has plugged in. He's plugged into Cleveland. And if Dane Brugler is saying that Duke Johnson is going to be the pick with the h from the University of Miami, and we talked

about that the Cleveland Browns needed a running backs. I mean they have Terence West and Isaiah Krowll, not exactly two dudes that you're sold on being, you know, franchise backs. Makes sense, pretty pretty devastating. Well, I can say Dane has yet to be wrong about any of the about the Cleveland Browns picks. Uh. That would be something that the Cowboys, Uh, that would hurt them in relation to uh to potentially into their board and how they might

have uh those guys. You know we've talked about Gordon and Johnson and Coleman. Uh you know what direction now you know we've we've the running backs also, you know, is if in fact Duke Johnson is a pick, is a Jay the best running back left out of that out of that group and for me, and that's we have to you know, or they've did bring in the USC kid and this is this is the fun of the draft is you know we talk about you couldn't say no to Gregory because the value was too good.

I mean, I hate to use the word, but maybe you reach on a GI even if you don't feel great about it because you're I mean, if that's what if that's the direction you want to go, Hey, maybe it's not, but that's what I was gonna to consider. That's what I was going to ask. What is the feeling? Uh what do the Cowboys feel or how do they feel about a GI's knee because if if that's the big factor, well they know they know it's non fixable.

You know, it's bone on bone. But the scenarios we've talked about has been, has been that they also know that, hey, they they could use a guy for four years and then you move on. So I mean it's it's very similar to Ron Leary in the sense that you don't know when it can't happen. Yeah, it hasn't happened Ron Learry yet. Big difference there being that they didn't draft Ron Leary. They got it as a priority free agent, right, so when you're talking about spending a top one hundred

pick on it, I understand their trepidation. I also happen to think they could really use another running back to add although if you're taking Jones at his word, he doesn't seem to think it's as important. He said he can sleep if they don't address the position in this draft, although he also said that about defensive end and they went and got Randy Gregor. I think that you can survive with what they have. I think you can feel a team and play on Sunday with what they have.

And when I don't, yeah, I don't, You're not gonna I don't trust Yeah, what they have necessarily, UM don't. I think I don't know either. Yeah, I think as Jay at this point if if I think, if your guy becomes your feature back immediately. But now we're in a spot where value wise, how does that work? Because you're gonna have Carl Davis sitting on the board too, who we have a second round player? Is t J Cleming still on the board. That's something's got to be wrong.

Something's wrong with something. We miss something medically something because that's the first round ish at least, yeah, offensive tackle, and we're working our way down here to where we may have to take a guy who's a third or fourth round running back to fill a need. So now we're just we're getting in an interesting spot. This is where the draft gets fun. And the word I mean again, when you say the word reached, that's a bad word. I mean if you think this point in time, it's

not really a reach. I mean he's not ach No, you know well as a player, No he's not. But it is ninety one. And we talked about this with Leall Collins this morning. Actually, do you get to a point where you're like, if his knee goes it was only the ninety first pick? Is that? Are you that debate him or debate him or are Carl Davis I don't know where to start. I mean, Carl David. I'll tell you what. I think that either player that I

pick is immediately upgrading the guy that's in front of him. Yeah, I think J J. I E. The de sets footing camp. We talk about this. Cal Davis is your best defensive tackle the day he sets footing camp other than Tyrone Crawford. Perhaps, are you more comfortable playing with who's on and at the one technique and three technique than you are running the football? Oh? Man, that's tough, because we know running the football is how we're gonna win football games. Yeah,

we know what they have. But that's the case. Maybe you should have got Duke. Yeah, well maybe we should have up. Yeah, we've seen but I like I like McFadden. I'm not gonna I'm a foot or two on that. I don't know him. He hit him with the Can he play sixteen games? Oh? He plays sixteen games? Where is this confidence coming from? He's done it once? You know what then? Was a former personnel man, you gotta have confidence. Okay, that's called blind faith. Right? What would

you do? Because I think for a good band, wouldn't blind faith? I've never heard of them for us, there's no doubt that Carl Davis is going to be higher on our board anyway, and that Jji is going to be lower. But we're a running football team and we don't trust the running back corp that we have, and we let DeMarco Murray get away. So now, so now, Brian, what do you do? What would you do? And first of all, maybe neither one of these guys makes it.

Carl Davis can be gone. Ji can be gone. We can be sitting in ninety one talking about, Okay, who's the guy that has the best shot of being there? The best shot. I think a Ji will be there because yeah, I'm popping him in ninety one. If I get there and he's there, I'm popping him at night. Because you're other guys, well, i'll tell you what. If this is by draft, I don't know if they'll do it. I'll take Mike Davis from South Carolina too. I got no problem with that morning back. But after that, I

think you're dropping out. You don't know. You don't know how much I liked him. If you took him at sixty, I wouldn't be mad at you. Dane thinks he might eat his way out of the league. I think he's a month. Here we go. We got the good supporting active duty and veteran services, Cleveland Browns our salute to service campaign thought Rogers called them and their love of

our country. It's back from the country. Please welcome here and in selection square service members from all five military branches, and four Tilman scholars from the Pat Tillman Foundation New s a U S. A commissioner walking down the line. Just describe him here, the commissioner walking down the line and shaking hands with each of the military members on the stage. So he's now at the podium and we're

gonna get the Cleveland Browns pick. Announcing the next selection is Army Sergeant first Class David fing H. I think I'm half of the service members. Thank you, Commissioner for the NFL's support both here and abroad. And now with the seventy seventh pick of the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Duke Johnson Miami Ka. Dame Brewler has might as well be in the scouting department for the call him now trade him Byron Jones. Oh no, no, what do you want? You want? Byron No? I had

a couple names to the conversation. Yeah, Carl Davis isn't there. Yeah, and you know, whatever happens with the gi well we got we're getting we're getting requests to we I mean, Mike Davis is getting mentioned. Were we looking at realistically for running backs that are left on the board? David Johnson? Maybe David Johnson's there, Mike Davis is there, Buck Allen's there. Ye. After that, the next guy that we would actually have is a guy named Thomas Rawls at Central Michigan. But

fu yeah he's down. Yeah, and it's not in the conversation at this page, say we don't go running back? Okay, let's just grant like you don't. Don't get tunnel vision here? I mean no, no, we did. We did for Duke Johnson. Do it. He's a brown move the click. Let's wait, so let's wait until the drafts over. Dat, Let's do have a couple of other names. I know it might not be a great fit. Eli Harold's a guy who slipped down to the third round. Now who knows Mike

Well Bennett's a guy who could play inside. So just a couple of names, you're just throwing him out there in case Carl Davis gets what about? What about? Okay, here's an interesting scenario which, granted we don't know, but we talk about a need for a swing tackle. Do you take that risk on whatever's wrong with TJ Clemings at ninety one? I want to know why he's there. I'm terrified. I gotta know why he's there. Something's terrifyingly wrong. Yeah,

but I'm missing something with TJ. Clemings. As long as your T is not there, there's no way he's still. As long as you're taking risks on dudes who are dirt cheap because of some I mean, they just took Randy Gregory, might as well do it again. I'm playing devil's advocate here. No, and you know what, when I figure out what's going on and what's pushing him down here, if it's something that's not a long term deal, sure, if I can get t J. Clemings and I think

Free's replacement, there's something going on. Let me tell you this. If I'm taking a chance on some of them, taking a chance on the runner, I'm taking a chance of Ji. Yeah, Okay, I mean I'm with you, Yeah, I mean we're also getting towards your quarterback zone here. Yeah, if they draft a gi he could be here for the press conference

in forty minutes, right sec. That's what I'm saying, though, if you, if I have to take a guy that's hurt, I'll go in and take the runner who we thought was a top forty player before we knew about this problem. So yeah, I have a hard time arguing with you. I mean, he's a guy. I mean again, I've been critical of him as far but carrying the football. I mean the past protection we've seen not great, but physically

you teach him to do that. No, that's enough, but you remember you remember damn good and well there was times with a desire to do it not good. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, Our Twitter fam is telling me that Clemings has a stress fracture in his foot. I'm going off of that, so yeah, thank you, thank you. That is true. That's true. But I didn't think I could open fix it and send it back. I didn't think it was as as

he would be. I mean, if you drafted, if you draft a guy with it who is three months off at torn ACL at twenty one, it's weird to me to think that a stress fat fracture, especially for an offensive tackle. I mean, Doug Fredy learned that firsthand, right right. Well, it's it's getting to point, creeping towards where you might have to start talking about your Baylor guy. Well, I'm

creeping there. I'm asking, I'm I will ask when we get to that point, Jerry Jones was the thought was that there could be a quarterback there and take him at the right spot. Is ninety one with I mean, we're throwing a lot of names out there, Nikki. We don't we don't. We don't have we don't have a quality uh really a player. The best player we have on our board. My opinion right now would be as far as to pick would be Carl Davis. I agree, that would be I agree that would be okay at

the end of the world. And if you want to throw resources at defense like you're talking about it, I have no problem picking that big son of a gun. And how you're gonna say the other word, Oh, I'll say it. He gets picked because he he will. He is a he is a he's active, he's inside. He could give you a push again. He could play three, he could play one. I would I would go I would stand both feet up on the table to get a guy like, don't you take him over the runner?

That's that's where spot take the runner. I'm glad I'm not runner. The runner is healthy, the runners healthy. I'm gonna have him for four years. Maybe he could last, Maybe he could last. Maybe I drafted Jeremiah Trotter Jeremiah TV. The doctor told me, I don't know, Brian if he could play ten games or ten years. The guy played like twelve years. Man, that's a bad decision. You got lucky. Yeah, guy's a Pro Bowl player. I don't think at the end.

All right, we get the podium pick right here now, this would be the New Orleans Saints fifteen NFL Draft. The New Orleans Saints select p J. Williams, defensive back Florida. We're seeing now, Rob Bryan. He got him a press corner there. P J. Williams, he will grab you all day long. But it's a good You're right. It's have thought. I mean they took Andrews Pete. I would have thought to have seen more focus on the offense from that team,

especially losing Jimmy Graham, losing Kenny Stills. Well, they took Pete. They took Pete and then they've taken three straight defenders. Yeah, well, rob Ryan is he's a happy man. He must he must have liked they got Sean Payte locked up somewhere. But yeah, I p J. Williams to me, guys, you watched him as well, Katie, you just see me thoughts

about p J. Williams and what you saw. Yeah. No. One thing that we always uh that I have in my notes that stood out is this guy's gonna get flagged a lot in the NFL if he doesn't stop grabbing. He's a holder heavy guy. Here, got another chair. Forty nine ers are in the San Francisco forty nine or select Eli Harrold. Oh wow, I like that pick for them a lot. Yeah, there you go, Eli Harold, Like, okay, finish up with a PJ. And then and then Jeff, if you give me some Eli Harold, if you could, Yeah,

p J. Williams. He's got to learn, you know, to stop making contact down the field. You know. The freshman though, he's gotta get eaten up with those illegal contact pill he's at the NFL level. But um, you know, I think he does a good j using the sideline that televerage. I think he understands a good feel of how to play use his body and you know, how to control kind of receivers a little bit, right, And I just the problem is Keny Canny get in there and stay

in front of the wide receiver. Yeah, you know, I think he's very handsy. Yeah, yeah, it shows you see some separation. And I mean even for a press man corner. You see he's got the recovery speeding right back and fix that, okay, Eli Harold goes to San Francisco forty nine ers. Yeah, so we watched him play at six zero three to six on the height, two hundred and thirty five pounds on the weight, but apparently he's added

somewhere between ten and fifteen pounds. I think you said that he was out here and you saw him, and I think he was a pretty big guy, right. We watched him play like that's his weight. You know, some of these guys is just what you're talking about. Maybe his hands on the ground, maybe he's standing up outside as a linebacker and is going to pursue down the line. Well, shows you a little bit of an ability to get

around guys, to work down the line. But when you when you're talking about a run game that's coming at him, you're talking about a weight that's hard to hide. You're just talking about he's gonna have a problem dealing with the run coming right at him. I noted that sometimes it doesn't look like he has a plan on his pass rush, but then on other parts you do see flashes of him turning that length and his speed into some power. So I saw a real mixed bag from

Eli Harold, is what I saw. Yeah, and a lot of people thought that Eli Harold in the third round though more like a maybe a late one, Yeah, maybe a second round guy. And you're right. I think you're absolutely right about the player. You know, the power to speed. I think there's a lot of things that you know. There's a he's a flash player. I don't think he played. He didn't really play that low and aggressive fire off

the ball consistently. He really really didn't. And I think that you talk about a guy again, it's about capturing that edge, it's about getting around that corner, about sharpening. And I don't think with Eli Harold you always saw it. But San Francisco, you know they've they've over the years had played some pretty good some good units. Okay, uh,

we're back up at the podium here. This is gonna be the Buffer Bills us first pick into two thy fifteen NFL Draft, The Buffalo Bill select John Miller, Guardsville Guard. We know, there you go, Kat's got John John Miller.

A little bout before we do that, I want to talk about Detroit's pick at eighty right there, Alex Carter, the cornerback from Stanford, another one of a big your guys, Yeah, is that you know, kind of a we were talking about names for the Cowboys at ninety one, and we're talking about running back and Carl Davis and some of these other guys. You know, I'm not going to rule out corner at this point if we're staying open minded and there's one on corners going, I've got a couple

good grades again, Carl Davis best guy on the board. Yeah, but you got about ten picks left till till you're up. Maybe, Carl Davis goes, maybe Corner isn't. Can we run this down one more time? I know we did it already, but just for everybody listening, I mean, how many picks we got it? We got about ten. Yeah, we're running. Throw throw me some names that sound I mean, Carl Davis has got it. I mean, he's probably top of

the list. Okay, Dallas is sitting at and on the clock currently is the uh is the New York Jets at eighty two. So you're, yeah, what is that? That's uh, that's seven names to you, right, eight names to you? So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight nine? Yeah, excuse me. So so you're you're looking right there. I mean, we we've we said this all along it. You know, Carl Davis is best guy on on the on this board, Andy all right, put it this way, He's the best

guy on our board. Yeah, and I and you know, and the fact that he can also play as at one is at at three, that that's I don't think that keeps you from over from taking him where you need to take him. But but with nine nine picks, I had it. I mean, I mean, there's a decent bet he could be gone here in the next four or five if he's I mean, there's somebody else has got to feel that way. So what are some other names? Well, okay, could the could the could the next pick? Could you

think about the pick. I'll throw it out there, Bryce Petty, I'll throw out the quarterbacks. I know, Petty or Hunley, I'll either one. I'm gonna go on the record and say that I would love the pick because when I said I didn't like the Gregory pick, they picked him. So I love the Bryce Petty pick. I think that's what they should do. I think they should go. So you're using the opposite, amusing reverse psychology on the Cowboys front office right here? Can I tell this out there too, though?

Because we were talking about maybe a potential runner, there still are two teams in front of you, Cardinals and Ravens, who might have a need or a desire to get a running back. So I want to throw that out there just in case. I don't know how urgent it's going to be to get you know, Jayagi or David and That's or whoever you like. But there's two teams who might take a running back that we're thinking about.

It's a giant at ninety one, like us being too focused on running back and maybe panicking or is it you think that's something they would do. It's talent, but again it's injury and we and I've always said I think it's something that you think it's something you say fourth round, I say fourth round. To me, ninety one is basically the fourth round. That's a great point. It

is a great point. In my experience though working in front offices is always been guys have medical issues or those those questionable issues all of a sudden end up in the fourth round. And but you know, we'll see. Okay, the commissioner is walking to the podium. He has got a guest with him, so let's go there. This would

be the New York We're excited. So many fans here in Chicagogo have had the opportunity experience this year's draft here tonight from more than one hundred NFL Draft diehards who have attended every round of every draft for more than ten years. Wow, it's away from the Mike Roger coach coached. Mony're in stretch mode right now. Thanks run a little fast in the second round. They're trying to stretch it out. Let'spet that extra half hour of ratings

representing all of you diehards. Here's New York Jet season ticket holder Albert Mahrds announced the Jet selection. Albert, there's a guy there who yells, who that every time? These dudes coming. With the eighty second pick off the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, the New York Jets select Lorenzo Mountain, linebacker on Louisville. Here you go, well, not a factor on fun with that. Louisville Cardinals putting some dudes. Now, the first one was a guy no one's heard of. Well,

how about this, Well the first one wasn't. Well how about this? Though? They went back to back. You got John Miller goes to Buffalo at eighty one, and then you turn around and you got Lorenzo Maulden, who you guys tried to not like very much. I was try to like him all I tried to not like anything. They tried not to like him. I think I try to like him because Lorenzo Maulden. Let me tell you this, though, when you watch him play, that guy's got some edge

rush of billy. He's sure. And I'll tell you what when he remember some of the stuff though from the back side, when he was running down plays the Miami game, slashing through there. Yeah, I'm a little bit higher on this guy than I thought you two were. I've got effort on two many plays questionable is my biggest deal. But what were some of the positive things, though, that you had about him that can get low Lean into the bend? Yeah, the bend, the rush. I think you

can work with the guys. A good hands to swat offensive tackles, get his feet going though, to get moving. That's why he couldn't play the four three. I got one for you guys from a reader. I mean, I've been so caught up in the in the excitement, in the moment, the name that we're familiar with him and put on my Homer Glass trade for duke. Yeah, the Neil Hunter. We feel about that is that we like him. You've got your already got a guy rusher, you do,

We've got our long and lanky edge rusher. Yeah, I mean another one couldn't hurt though defensive that doesn't Really you're getting towards the right range, I think. Actually, I don't know. I don't even I don't like the Neil Hunter that much, but I think you're getting towards the right range though. Yeah, you start looking at him as with his athleticism. I'm just saying I'm trying to think of names that sound like they're plausible. Tre Flowers is

another one, got Ohio State Michael Bennett. Michael Bennett in the mix. If Carl Davis is there, though, why wouldn't you rather just have Carl Davis. Well, no matter what name I throw out, I'm gonna say I'd rather have Carl Davis. So I'm trying to throw around. You're saying that you think it should be Carl Davis. If it gets to that point, I just throws it off. I throws it off for me. It makes it a tough decision. I have a hard time. I don't like to drop

off from him to the next guy. I like David Johnson. I think Mike Davis at sixty that's a great point. I would take Mike Davis. The whole world disagrees with me with Mike Davis, so I'm trying to I'm trying to let him go and not champion him all the time, and then just whoever takes him, eventually I'll re champion. But the whole world seems to disagree with me on Mike Davis, so I'm trying to be quiet about him. That's fair. I'm gonna sit here quietly. So if he

turns into something you're gonna be obnoxious as hell. Absolutely, Yeah, okay, okay, he's my Timmy journ again from last year, Timmy Jura was a second round. I was gonna take him at sixteen. Well that, yeah, that's fair. While we're throwing out names like I'm just throwing out names. If in case Carl Davis goes a Grady Jarrett, you knows your Cooper, there's you guys in the next If not that, I think it's actually approaches Flowers as Flowers has not been picked

on the boarders, I'd watch that. I would watch that pick. I'd watch that pick at New England at the end of the end of the day at ninety six. To be honest with you, right there, that would be one and I would be So if we're and I I have I have no idea if jag I at ninety one is a plausible option. But there's really only one team between right now and the Cowboys, maybe two if you conclude Baltimore that would maybe want a running back. So yeah, it seems like a decent bet that he'll

be there, especially with his injury concerns. I just think we're in such a we're in such a strange spot now because I agree, I think you need I think you need a runner. But I think if you're going, if you're gonna skip, like in the case of our board, you're skipping a full round. I'm not skipping that, tack taking them, I'm not I'm not skipping that. I love

the player. So if it happens, it happens, and then you're just gonna have to see what you end up with a running back, you know, and if maybe David Johnson makes it to four, then this could be one of those things. Well, I mean, you never thought Randy Gregor gonna pick in here this, never thought Randy Gregory was getting sixties. N Here we go the Chargers, the San Diego Charger select Craig Meger defensive back. Texas State,

Texas say, there we go. Texas State is a good place to hang out with your friends from Lulling, Texas Old Craig Meger and Craig is not a bad football player. No wait, talk about Craig a little. Let me try to get down to my notes on him real quick, because ten is gonna pop to my forefront. Be dishonest with you. Do you remember liking him though? Start to dry up all yeah, and this this makes me want to throw out a few names. What's what's throw out?

Stevie Nelson and Josh Yeah, you wonder about you wonder about Here's the guys that we really liked. We talked about Shaw, we talked about Nelson, h And you know, Craig Meger is a guy that I basically had in the fifth round on my board. But Jeff, go ahead and give us a little thumbnail on him. Okay, here's what I for him now. Granted this is against South Alabama and the like, but they'll use him on the

corner blitz. He's got the awareness to get his hands up to bat balls down in that situation, aggressive and willing tackler against the read option, nice adjustments on deep balls to get a body on bigger wide receivers and box him out. Makes an interception in that scenario against

South Alabama. And then I made the note that off coverage needs to stop in college football because off coverage, like a lot of these guys that we watch, when you take him out of the press man and they're playing off man, I feel like all of them play so conservatively and give up the underneath routes. But that was the biggest thing I had on him, is that an off coverage he gives up that short. I thought

he looked like an aware zone player. I don't know that he's a four or four guy on the field right, although he timed at that. But yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm listening a lot of good out of the notes there for a small school guy. That's it. I think he got the player pretty much nailed there. Again, I didn't see a guy that played great off man. Okay, Philadelphi Eagles now are at the podium. Let's go to their picks. Welcome Eagle fans. Frank Arnold from Coltsville, Pennsylvania,

thank you Troy. With the eighty four pick in the twenty fifteen NFL Draft, my Philadelphia Eagles select Jordan Hicks, linebacker, University of Texas. Jordan Hicks linebacker, eris Texas, six one, two hundred and thirty six pounds. Kind of all over the map with this guy. I think we should go to kat for Jordan Hicks, because, if I remember correctly, you've got some strong Jordan Hicks opinion that wasn't really

crazy about Jordan Hicks. Um he struggled in coverage. So so what are you gonna if you're gonna put him out there in Philadelphia? And they played as an outside linebacker too. Yes, I mean he would need to be more of a thumper type of guy, and I don't think that's that's I mean, I guess he can handle it, but it wasn't a guy that I saw who was very good reading plays to him getting hand I mean,

he would get handled, wouldn't get off blocks very well. Um, I didn't seem to be to be a real physical player. And he was going up against good competition. Now you know TCU and UCLA and Oklahoma and you know West Virginia's in the world. He played against, you know a lot of big schools, and I just didn't see a guy that could really get downhill, who was getting off blocks. I say, it wasn't a guy that I that I really, you know, to be Frank, I didn't enjoy watching the guy.

Feels like you're drafting an athlete. Yeah, I think he was a really fluid athlete. Like you look at his three cone time, I think it was like under I think it was six seven eight. So you're talking about a guy with the skills to move really really well. It's just your worry is the power the way that he gets engulfed by blockers in the run game for

a linebacker. So I think coverage is sort of what you're counting on him for because the run game is going to be a struggle at least to me, and the history of hip and achilles injuries that those are always a good to have right there. Yeah, he's want that and your linebacker, but that's chip. He'll get it. He'll get a guy who say that's the thing about it is I And and then here we go. Now we got to pick. The next pick is and this will be the Cincinnati Bengal into two thy fifteen NFL Draft,

the Cincinnati Bengals select Tyler Croft, tight end Rutgers. Tyler Croft. Okay, I love hearing that tight ends or the pick because I just don't care at all about that. Just take the guy that I don't care about. You don't care about Tyler Croft. I don't want to know anything about Tyler Croft. I mean, you guys can talk about Tyler Croft, but as far as the cowboy's interests go, it's not a need that anybody had even remotely outlined they're pushing

our Carl Davis choice down to Petty. This guy is like A. He's like an H. He's like an H. He's A. He's a Why he could play in the slot. That's really some of the things you know. Yeah, Dane and I were talking about him. Dane kind of compared him to a bigger Riley Cooper that you know, with that type of a player. So when you're looking at the tight ends, it's stuff like that. Yeah, he's gonna play in the flex position. He's gonna be a getting

away blocker. He's never gonna have great functional strength as a player, but he catches the football very well. He's always going to be detached, removed up the field type of players. So that's what you got from Tyler Kropp, who was selected at the eighty fifth spot by the He's from Rutgers with the from the Cincinnati Band. So this football team is based in Texas. Yeah, and Katie,

are you originally from Texas? I am originally from seventy five percent of people in this room originally from Texas. So understandably getting a lot of questions about Paul Dawson, Kat's guy. How do we feel about Katie's guys. He makes every tackle, he makes every play. Yeah, K give the positives. He'll be he'll be here for the press conference in thirty five minutes. I'm sure. No. I like Paul Dawson a lot more than my comrades here, but that's just uh, that's just me. You're not bad. He

doesn't know. He will not blocked. I mean he will try his hardest to not get blocked. He gets around it. He's elusive, and I think typically when you want your linebackers coming up and making plays, he'd like to see him ripped through, shed a block, take on a little bit better. Yeah, he's not doing that. He's getting around it. And then there's the off the field stuff that you know, we were talking about a little bit earlier. Um, he's the type of guy who's, you know, just he was.

He was laid a lot. Gary Patterson wasn't really too high on him. But I like Paul Dawson. I think he's a guy who comes in. There's just enough tape that says, hey, war room, got war room cam back up, We are back. Yeah, we're back. So that was removed so that kat was described ahead. There was enough tape that showed him making every single play on the field,

and that was enough to impress me. Yeah, and you know what, there's there's value to a linebacker that is able to work his way through traffic and make every tackle on a running back. And I think at this spot, you know, get into this, right, I think he you know what, tell me if his best fit is a three four team where you can have one middle linebacker that's the sum and he's the free one and he's

the runner. Yeah. Yeah, But the thing about it is if you leave him uncovered, you know, he's gonna try and avoid blocks. So but when he does avoid blocks and he or he does get caught, he's gonna run himself out of some potential sure, some potential plays. Right. So he's a guy though, I mean he plays that scheme they run to the ball, TC. There's no doubt about it. His ability to run to the football. And so that's the great thing about him is what he what he can do. So uh, I will I will

duck off. Dane Kibler has returned after breaking our hearts. Sweet, there was a guy that went in the third round we hadn't heard of. We need you so I will be off to cover the pick and it has been fantastic. Jay, thanks for a lot of problem. I will see amorrow absolutely absolutely save ladies and Dave Hellman with the golf and a top notch football. Okay, tiny Jim, thank you very much for all you did. Oh Man. Okay, Tiny Jim, Okay,

here we go with the uh as we got. Kent has now got war room cam up for you right now. Uh you see that, Uh, Jason Garrett is starting to fill in some of the picks that he might have missed. Uh. They probably had some meetings and talking about the direction that they were wanting to go in. I can't see any coaches that might give you a clue who might be in the U. In the mind U, the coach would probably stand over there behind Jerry Junior. I don't

think you could see him on the screen. We can so uh but uh, you know, Dan, we've been through this. We've been through uh names, We've we've lost players, we've gained players. UH, We've we've tried to figure this all out. It seems to be that Carl Davis is the best player on our board. How about on your board. Let's go a pick right here. Uh, this is going to be the Arizona Carton the NFL Draft, the Arizona Carton'll select David Johnson. Oh, there we go. And then there

was one Yeah, right? Are we are we okay? Are we okay with making that pick? Now? Waiting Dane? How do we balance Carl Davis being higher to us as a player versus Jagi being maybe our last hope as a lead runner. Well, but you gotta talk to me. He might have some other guys. He might have the runner, the USC runner. I'll take Mike Davis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well with running back, okay, Ji obviously it's a little bit of a loaded uh question with the knee. Just

don't know. I think for this team, you have to look at Buck Allen. Yeah, you have to look at jgii Uh. David Johnson just off the board, so that's no longer an option, right, Do you feel comfortable with one of those two guys at ninety one? But you're right about Carl Davis, a player that I think you we saw him coming off the board somewhere in the second round, maybe even a top fifty pick. So if he's still available before you at ninety let me tell

you this. They had great success with Anthony Hitchens last year. Yeah, that's an Iowa kick haw guy. Yeah, I mean he's and let's see, it looks like we got to go up to the podium once again. Uh, let's see what's going on right there. Commissioner's making his way. This is going to He's got a twenty fifteen NFL draft. The pitch birt Steelers select Sammy Coats, wide receiver Auburn. There's your vertical nine runner. The Steelers got lucky with a guy that had some drops in college last year with

Martevis Bryant. Sure did. Yeah, that turned out. Okay, So we'll see if Sammy Coates the same way, straight speed. That is a speed guy, right there is and he's built really well. Now he doesn't look like a wide receiver. Okay. So as we're getting close to Dallas's pick, we keep talking about guys the Carl davis Is of the world. We've talked about Bryce Petty, we've thrown out, We've thrown his Hunley. Who you have Hunley over Bryce pay if

they were going to a quarterback route. So it looks like some celebration going on here in the in the war room. It's Scott Lenahan just came in the room and he shaved the picks. Another picks. Let's go to the podium real quick. Twenty fifteen NFL Draft, The Minnesota Vikings select Daniel Hunter defensive end lsu All right, Daniel Hunter. Okay, so we're a little we're running. We're looking at war room cam. Here a lot of handshakes going all around

that room. Scott Lenahan coming in the room. That tells you it's going to be an offensive player. This very well could be Bryce Petty. I mean, and I'm just speculating right now. We don't know the pick. We need to see. They still got Carl Davis. Uh. I mean, there's all kinds of names. But with with Lenahan coming in the room, I think that gave you a little bit of clue right now. If you're watching with us and know we're a little bit behind on probably Petty

or a runner. Yeah Petty or a runner right there. But yeah, exactly, I shouldn't say I would come here to overstep my body. But the offensive coordinat in fact came in the room. Minnesota took Danil Hunter. That means that uh uh, let's see who We're back up here. We've got the RAMS selection going on right now. Let's see who the Rams have in fact select, did uh this would be what pick? Would this be? Number eighty nine? Sean Mannion, Sean Many, Grayson and Manion over Hunley and Petty.

How about that? So Caroline has sends his pick that picked with the Saint Louis. If I'm not, isn't I right there? At pick that is a RAMS pick? So that means let's see exactly what happens with you know, with the with the cowboys, uh, Baltimore being on the clock, We'll see which direction they're gonna go. Uh, you know, potentially, I just start naming guys you think might might be

that at that spot. Uh. Man, I tell you what, I think it's only a matter of time before we're looking at people whose boards catch up to what we've been thinking, which is Carl Davis for the last twenty picks. Yeah. Other than that, you look around there, what about Darryl Williams the offensive tackle? Yeah? What about Paul Dawson or maybe one of these corners like Josh Shaw or Steven Nelson. I'm just throwing out the guys that at least for me,

look like the highest guys left. Michael Bennett, I think it's fair to about Trey Flower's name guys like that. But I just kind of waiting with Baltimore up on

the clock right now. And Baltimore has a traditional history sometimes, you know, the Cowboys have always I know my experience with them, they always seem to have at everything the Cowboys going back when we were the Cowboys traded ahead against for Dez Bryant, and the Ravens have always been a team that been around the Cowboys when they're picked and stuff. Ozzie Knewsom seems to have a sense what's going on with Dallas, and they have a sense what's

going on with him. So let's see, you know, with the Ravens being on the clock, I think you have to sweat this pick a little bit. The picks in here now for the Ravens, let's go to it, and then that would put the Cowboys on the clock. The pick and the two thy fifteen NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Carl Davis. Oh no, but we remember we saw these guys jeering. Yeah, so Carl Davis is not gonna be a thick. Yeah, uh, it's gonna be an offensive player here. Yeah it is, Well, it could be

the quarterback. I mean we've talked about a bunch of different again. Now let me ask you this. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Sean Manion pick. So yeah, you know, if you look about it, you know, if you start talking about guys again, Petty, we were quarterbacks, you know often, could they go for the swing tackle here? Could this? Would this be too early to go for the swing tackle? Maybe? I mean we've taught I mean, we've mocked guys. I keep mocking at you know, we're

talking about fourth round. Chaz Green's been a guy we've mocked. I'm a big Chaz Green fan. I mean, I'm just trying to throw out names. I mean, yeah, you made you talk. You talked about offensive tackles, You talked about Green or not Green, Skimmy Williams, Y Williams, Darryl Williams and those guys. Yeah, so that would be our top two, right, Daryl Williams and Chaz Green right there? Yeah, So with whatever is going on with t J clemingson, so you know,

I mean, could this be the spot? Could they value one of you know, could they value a tackle? I mean, we've we lost our defensive tackle here. But again, everybody in that room was was very very happy about the situation going on. You saw Scott Lenahan, the offensive coordinator, step in the room. I don't see anymore other than like I say, a gy is on the board, A gy is on the board. They'd be okay with him at this point. I mean, you didn't want him at

sixty with the knee, what's going on with that? But here you feel okay with that type of gamble. Well, oh a little clue if you just look at the in the war room cam and remember we talked about Chad's green and if it wasn't for the injuries and a durability, I gave him a fifth. If it wasn't for the durability, I would have had him as a late too early three. Okay. So that type of talent. Okay. So Dallas's pick is in. As we look at the TV, they're in a commercial break, you know, the war room

as you could see doing very well. Everybody's happy. Charlotte Jones Anderson shaking hands with Jerry. I got a little a little hint there the phone left. I saw Frank Pollock hang up the phone, So Frank Pollock was on the phone, uh down here on the left side of the screen. So that tells me that they're gonna take an offensive tackle. I think we're gonna see Chaz green

be I'm not really sure. I mean, like I say, it's it's you know, would if you just look at the clues, what's going on in the in the in the room, we're gonna come back with the pick and see how that all plays out. But you talked about him Dane potentially you know a guy that could be uh that type of guy. I if it's not for the durability concerns and the injuries, I would have had green rate a lot higher. He missed all twenty thirteen uh and just was dinged ump throughout his career. Couldn't

stay healthy. But he brings his position versatility left tackle, right tackle. You see the movement skills very consistent when he was on the field, A very seasoned player. M But again, can he stay on the field that that reliability? Even having my report, can he bust through that fragile tag? And as long as he can do that is a very good player. Yeah, here's the guy that's played, oh on the left and right side. Again, we're just speculating there.

From what we've seen, they've now gone to the closed war room camp right there. So the pick in fact is in. So there's you know, we just need to figure out what that is. You know, this is a player, like I said, he's a young guy that it's got. I think it's got a lot of upside. Kat Jeff and he thoughts as far as if that in fact is the pack, I'm not going to get away from my sadness of not picking a runner. Yeah, I would

have wanted And you said it. Frank Pollock is in there talking on the phone, which makes it sound like you're going offensive line. Yeah, so sure, the player I think is a good one. But now you're kind of taking yourself out of the guys that I would consider to be a chance to be your lead back of

the stable that you've got. And I know Doug Free was banged up at the end of the year last year, but we could say that, you know, we got pretty lucky if full season your entire offensive line was healthy. It's good to have a guy like that. I just think where I wasn't it's we've had tunnel vision too, just a little bit. Oh yeah, oh, there's no doubt

about that kind of running backs this whole way. The way things worked out with Gregory in the second round was kind of hoping something would fall there at the running back position at ninety one and uh, you know, and it's still possible. I like a gi I just don't know, you know, the medicals. Yeah, that warroom camp thing gives you a little bit of clues who's on the phone and who's not on the phone. So just we think it might be an offensive tackle. You know,

there's a you know, we've we've kind of speculatet. We think that, you know, it could be Williams. Talk about him a little bit, Dane, if you want to, you know, talk about the massive guy playing at that right tackle though for the Oklahomah yeah, uh similar to phil Odhole who you know, another Oklahoma soon or right tackle, but uh with Darrel Williams, guy that blocks out the sun. Just that type of player with that size. Um And

we talked about the tackles. If you think your tackle early, we're gonna see a little bit of a drop off. A few options We've seen some some guys come off the board having Dean uh Sam Brelow and so him at this point, Uh, you might be pressured to go get that tackle if he's still available for you. Yeah. Well they're they're talking about it right now here on the on the feed. Uh. So we think it's going to be an offensive tackle. We like I would assume anything to wait. We we like we all here think

that that uh Chaz Green is a better player. Let's go to the podium now and the selection. With the ninety first pick in the two thousand and fifteen NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select Chash Green, tackle Florida. So so there it is. They went out and got the six five, fourteen pound Chaz Green. Uh. You talk about a guy that is very athletic. Uh. Dan's documented his uh you know there's been some talk about him. Uh, just go

through his injury real quick. He missed time over his career multiple ankle injuries, sprain and two eleven, miss four games that ritch Refreshman another sprain as a senior, missed all of twous and thirteen with torn labram that required surgery, and just different bumps and bruises. Throughout his career. But uh, you know, going away from the doom and gloom, there a very talented player. You see in his kickslide a wide base athletic with his feet, he knows how to

He just looks very natural in his pass sets. You see him use his hands, not afraid to punch. And he has the awareness too. He can pick up pressures. He sees the blitz. So I think with Chaz Green at this point in the draft, I like the player that you're getting as long as he stays on the field. Yeah, and any thoughts on you on your guys behalf there.

You know. For me, it's hard to it would be hard to fault the team for picking an offensive lineman given the recent history of what they've done on the offensive line and how much that's become the anchor of the football team. Um, I think Kat nailed it a couple of minutes ago. I think at this point in the draft I had tunnel visioned so much on a running back and now, oh, I just wonder what you're gonna do for the runner. Now I'll tell you what.

Maybe maybe I'm overreacting to Jasi. You can keep going. I think he will maybe he can keep going. I think it tells you what they think of this running back class. I think they're comfortable with five names right now. There's not one of those five names that you know, maybe if Duke Johnson was still on the board, sorry, maybe if Duke Johnson was still on the board, he's where you had. Yeah, sorry, he could beat his pig, but he's not. Sorry. Uh so maybe that in that scenario.

But given the current scenario at pick ninety one, you know, you pass on the running back, you're gonna get your guy maybe fourth round. Well, you know, Chas Green and I'll i'll kind of piggyback on what Dane was talking about.

You know, this guy is you know, he can drive block and you know when he blocks down inside, you know you're talking about a six five really three hundred and fifteen pound guy, very athletic, and you know when you talk about the speed of five one eight forty you you know you this this team likes to on those zone schemes. They'd like to get guys on the edges. They'd like to get big bodies out there on the outside, and this is one of those guys that can do that.

You know, I mean, he's a guy that plays on his feet. You see him get a little bit over extended at times, but most young tackles will do that. So, you know, I think in pass Pro Dane was talking about the kickslide stuff. I really like the guy. The way this guy plays in pass pro, and I think that's is really one of his best strengths. Because you watch him get away from the line. I can echo

exactly what Dane was talking about. But you know, again, they're gonna have to develop some strength with this guy that I think that's gonna be the biggest thing and be probably more mentally tough, develops some strength. But man,

he's a very good athlete. I'll tell you what. I remember in the Alabama game, there was a play where, because you're talking about the athleticism and getting away from the line, I remember a play where he's sort of by one of their bigger and more powerful defensive lineman sort of got walked back to the quarterback. Yeah, and the very next play the guy tries the same thing and Chaz Green drops that anchor and it's like, no, that's not happening again. Like so to see the adjustment

even from play to play. That's encouraging. Okay, the Packers just made a pick and they took Time Montgomery. Oh, they took my kick returner we missed. Let me go back after we were talking about that with Chaz Green here Dallas. At ninety two, Denver took Jeff Herneman Herman is that hireman from Ohio State? Excuse me, Jeff Hireman, the tied end from Ohio State. And then the Indianapolis Colts took Henry Anderson, the defensive end from Stanford. So we like this guy, we like him very much. And

now we've got the Green Bay Packers taking uh, Tie Montgomery. Uh, probably handle all their stuff. As far as the kick, he's like a he's like a loose play guy. You know. They do a lot of different things with him, Dane Uh. As far as trying to get him the football, Yeah, you have to manufacture touches for him. A player that we thought maybe be there in the fourth fifth round. Um, he can impact you your team right away on special teams and whatever he adds on offense. Really a bonus.

So interesting pick for the Packers there with Time Montgomery. Yeah, and that to me, inconsistent hands and when I watched him play. Here's here's another pick again, let's go. This is the Redskins. They got this in Seattle fifteen NFL Draft. The Washington Redskins select Matt Jones, running back Florida. Interesting. Matt Jones actually liked him a little bit. One of the bigger backs, will get downhill and as a just sort of a power guy. Just give me the ball,

watch me get downhill. I'm gonna be kind of tough to tackle. And I saw him in pass pro taking on some bigger guys and was really able to hold. Oh he's a big guys, a linebacker. Yeah, he's six two days and he's he's a big guy and so he'll run over you. Another guy talk about these Florida guys dealing with injuries. That was Matt Jones junior. Came out early, but a player that offers a lot that you know, he's not gonna hide behind blockers because he's

so big. He's not gonna really use his elusiveness to make guys miss, but he'll run over you. He'll run when he runs behind his pad. He has some powers. So make Jones interesting that he's the next running back off the board. There and awesome and awesome, Yeah, because I'm still holding out that Jaji you hope, right. Yeah.

Well again that's and a lot of it has to do with the the the the knee and then medical report, because again a Jai would be a guy that would be uh off the board or would be you know, would be taken by now. Okay, so let's go to our new member of the Dallas Cowboy University of Florida offensive tackle Chaz green Chatz. You're with Brian broad Us in company here for Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We're covering the NFL Draft and we're very excited to welcome you

to the Dallas Cowboys if the dream comes too. Yeah, I'm really really grateful for this opportunity. I can't wait to get up there. Well, Chats, we were talking about and this is a team last year, uh, you know, a playoff team. You know, you're used to winning a lot of football games, yourself, outstanding football program there at Florida. You come to Dallas here, you know, Yeah, the offensive tackle position here, you know, you could do a lot

of different things. I think you know, play left, right side. Is there one side though that you feel the most comfortable at? Or are you one of these guys that say, Hey, wherever they're gonna line me up here, I'm gonna go play football. I'm definitely a guy that says, whenever you line me up either type of position, I feel comfortable at.

I can sliding to play guard. I'm grateful for the opportunity to come in and be able to help this organization or coach Paul all those guys, Coach Garrett, I mean coming in and be able to learn behind um Tyron Smith and Duck Free and those guys. And I'm just really grateful, you know, for the opportunities. Yeah, Jazz, you talked about did they say something about you potentially playing guard? I just kind of picked up something you said. Or is it just that was something you're just willing

to do if you had to. I'm just willing to do. I think they've talked about me playing a mainly swing tackle, okay, and you know that I'll do that as well as guard. You know, whatever the other team needs, I'm available to do that. I got you, man. Hey, Jazz is Rob Phillips from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Congratulations. I want to ask you about the Cowboys offensive line. Is it excites you to come to an offensive line that well documented.

They've got a lot of talent. Three Pro Bowlers and uh not only that developed a guy in one year who made the All Pro team. Does that excite you? Yeah, it's an honor to say that Lisa's an them. It's a dream come true to being with the organization with as much history and much legacy and that especially as far as getting us a line. You know, it's the best offensive lot of them I play in last season.

And you know, like I said, coming in being able to learn are on two great tackles and Tyronne Smith, you know, Dug Free and just being able to get around that guy, those guys and that culture and just being able to grow. You know, I'm just I'm just looking forward to day one. I just want to get to work as soon as possible, to know chess, you know, when you you know, you look at Andre and Rob was asking about that, about you coming in and working with this group and all that and being a swing

tackle and stuff. Though it's you know, it's playing in the in the Southeastern Conference and you're talking to an LSU man here right now. So you know, many at many a day of watching you block my guys and taking Hunter out of the play and stuff like that. So I don't always appreciate how great you were against my OLSCU Tigres. But but when when you know, you talk about playing at Florida and then how it's prepared you with you know, they've got some outstanding edge rushers

that play in the SEC week in week out. You guys never shied away from competition. Talk about though, your development though at Florida and how that's going to help you play here at the National Football League. I mean just over the course of my career, you said, I played against great players in practice and in games, and I'm very, very fortunate that I played in the SEC. You know, at the University of Florida. It didn't go

as planned. Obviously, wish you to have one more games, but the fact that I got that competition every day in practice, one of these guys like Fowler and easily and then going against guys like Cloudy in the games, I mean, it just it just prepared me. I feel like for the next level. How important was it, Chatz to come back your senior season and have a healthy season.

I know you've gone through some injuries the past few years. Uh, not only for your draft stock, but just how how important was it for you to finish your college career off, you know, on the right foot. It was, it was, it was a great decision. It was. It was definitely

something that that I thought about. Um, you know, happen to shit out twenty thirteen, but coming back, you know, being anointed as one of the team team captains by my team, he's you know, it is one of the greatest memories that I'll never forget, you know, going back to just just all that time you spend bonding with you guys in college and you never get that back. So you know, I wouldn't change it for the world. I'm glad I came back and finished my fifth year and we had we had a we had a pretty

good season, you know, not as good as plan. But I'll never change, you know, anything that I did. Chats, and I'm just asking the question, did did you come in for one of the thirty visits? I think I saw your name on that list that you were one of the guys that came in and got to visit with the coaches and see the facility. Man, Am I

right about that? Yes, okay, so they put you on the Yeah, they put Frank Pollock, Coach Pollock and those those guys put at you on the board and all that stuff like that, and and so it really a good opportunity for you as well, not only for them to get to know you, which obviously you know they feel good enough about you to draft, but the fact you got to know them, and you talk a little bit about your experience when you came into Dallas and

being a part of the thirty day visit here. You know, when I when I went on five visits and when I came to Dallas, I could tell it it was just it was a first class organization and it was

a step up from from all the other teams. You know, everything clearly is bigger in sechs Um meeting with all the coaches, coach Coach Garrett, meeting with mister Jones, and just you could just tell that it was there was a there was a different legacy behind the organization that you know, I felt honored at the time if I could, if I was fortunate enough to end up there. And now that now that they drafted meet you know, it's

it's just a dream come true. To be a part of it, and like I said, I just can't wait to get the work now. We just started talking about it as when you get the work. Oh that's great. Well hey listen Chas they congratulations again. I know the guys and watching here from our positioner of Valley Ranch. Everybody in the war room all high fives, hugs all around.

Very happy to have you as part of the Dallas Cowboys and we look forward to seeing you here real soon and seeing you out in the football field and covering you from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. You've got a great, huge fan base here and I'm sure everybody's gonna find you a wonderful guy to cover and to be a fan of. Okay, yes, I'll appreciate you everything. All right, thanks Chess, all right, thank you. As Chaz Green, the offensive tackle newly drafted from the University of Florida's Yeah,

he used to beat up on my LSU get that kid. Yeah, he moves really well. He'd love the movement skills. And you saw that at the combine and you see it on his tape. At the combine ran a four eight six forty yard dash and for a big guy to six three two ninety three, so he moves really well for a size. He was kind of out of position I thought at Washington State and their three four based defense, and he's gonna go to a three four based defense in Cleveland. So we'll be interesting to see how that

plays out where they see him playing. I liked him best as a three technique. Um, where did you see him? Brian? I thought he was a three technique myself. I mean that's where where I mean I felt like Trader. Yeah, I felt like that if he could play on the outside shoulder and then he could find a way to get up the field. I think that was something that was going to be very very positive for him as far as the fully again not playing as a two

gap guy. Can't you got something for me? We're gonna have a press conference here pretty soon from the Cowboys executive so people stay tuned to this feed. It'll be on this channel, Okay, that we will have the we will have they will wrap up what was going on in the second and third rounds today, the Cowboys making a couple of selections. Uh, you know, everybody was very excited about the opportunities that they, you know, coming into

this to this day. H Randy Gregory falling to them with that sixtieth pick, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett, you know again, and Randy was talking about the supports him. He's got a chip on his shoulder, he's excited about being here. I think he's got a lot to prove. There's a lot of hurdles for him to still clear. But if he can do that, we're talking about an elite talent right there. No, there's no question about it.

And you know again, a player that we talked about maybe at twenty seven, you know, could he come off the board there? And he doesn't. He lasts until the second round and the Cowboys stay put and their guy guy falls in them. So outstanding to see that happen. Well, it looks like we're going to be joined here by offensive line coach Frank Pollock. Coach, you just put on the headsets there and hopefully they fit. Coach Frank Pock. Brian brought us. Dane Brugler from Dallas Cowboys dot Com,

thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate. We just got off the phone with Chaz and he was excited about the opportunity to play for you and you know, and I didn't know if you had the opportunity to go work him out or at Florida. But just talk about the impressions you had of Chatz and its process going through right. Well, I watched him on tape early in the process. Like what I saw. He's athletic, he can play multiple positions. He's got a good football character.

He looks to finish guys, he's got a good change of direction, he's sudden. And then through our draft process, how the opportunity to go work him out of Florida as well, and everything you see on tape he showed you in his private workout. He's explosive, a lot more explosive than I thought, and I was impressive. I like the young man. He did a nice shop in the classroom, picking up some of the things I was teaching him and be able to give it back to me as well.

So he's got a lot of upside. Excited to work with him. Frankie, You've guess have developed really a special room over there. We've all talked about the young kids that you have, but you have a guy like Doug Freed that's, you know, a veteran It kind of keeps everybody in line though, and I expect that you think the Chaz will be will fit right in with that group. A hard working, blue collar type of guys if you want to use a cliche, but that type of group.

He seems to have those kind of characteristics and traits. Yeah. Absolutely, he was kind of raised that way. Military background family as far as you know the Florida program as well. He's got great work ethic. All the reports come back high on him from the head coach to his position coach, and they'll do a great job fit in our room. Do you feel go ahead? Dan? He played tackle? Do you think he could play inside a guard? If he did? He's played guard as well in the past, so you

can play both positions. Yeah. We were asking him and meet because he said how you think he fits and he says, heck, I want to play anywhere, and he threw out guard and I my second question with way if you talked about playing a little guard. So that's something though that you've as as an organization with you coming in as a coach in the last couple of years, a lot of guys having to play a lot of multiple positions here on this offensive line, and so it's

something very important that you obviously saw in the player. Right. What's unique about this league is you only address usually seven guys on game day, so that's two backups for five spots. So you gotta play multiple spots if you're not a full time starter. And that's just the way

it is in this league. So you have to be able to cross train guys whether we tackle guard guards, center, center guard, whether their number one position is, they're going to have a second position, They're getting just as much reps and experience and workout. One thing I loved about Chaz Green talking to people who knew him, just the mental toughness, the way he came back from injuries, the way he persevered. Is that something that you could tell

when you were talking to him and getting the no chazz. Yeah, he's all business, very mature, and that's definitely important. As far as especially fitting in our room. Got a great blue collar group, well you do, yes, there they're workers, they're professionals, absolutely, so we're I'm very fortunate the coaching

room like that. And then he'll be a great addition, so you know, and going through when you said that, all the fits and things with you know, we as we try and evaluate, Oh, they run zone schemes, they do this, but the tackle position, though, You've got guys that are really are outstanding athletes, a lot of guys, especially in the running games success you had working with the tight ends, getting guys on the edge, capturing the edge,

and then getting guys to the outside. Second level. Chaz Green and the tapes that i'd seen it, it looks like he's a kid very capable of doing those kinds of things. Yeah, he can at both first and second level. It's very important in our offense. In our scheme, you can play at the second level cover up linebackers with success. Well he's on the back side or the front side. He's showing you can do that. Well. Coach, thank you very much for coming buy and having a few words

and congratulations. Get the guy you're gonna work with and know do great things with. So Frank Pock, the offensive line coach for the Dallas Cowboys, taking a little time out of his busy schedule, very happy about having Chads Green here to be a part of his room. And I asked a question about the room. It's a very close room. Yeah, it's a very when you talk about

those guys and how they all fit together. Doug Free is obviously the leader there, you know, but they do have a bunch of young guys that can do have done some amazing things already very young in their career, and Chad Green will get this opportunity to be a part of that. And for the offensive line, you're only as strong as your weakest link. You know, you have to play in unison, you have to have the communication.

So that's great to hear that Chad's Green fits exactly what they want, not only on the field, but behind the scenes stuff that necessarily fans don't see. Well, the due diligence, you know. Frank Frank Pollacko and he had him in the thirty visit. He goes to Gainesville, he puts him on the board. He's comfortable with everything about him.

So you know, the fact that he could play a lot of different positions I think also helps to okay, Keke Kerrison tells me and Douglas tells me that we have some secret audio from Chad Green, So let's go to that jazzy This is Jerry Jones with a Dallas cowboy. Well, I'm doing just fine, and I'm sitting here with our head coach and our offensive coordinator and our offensive line coach, and we're all high five and you're a Dallas cowboy.

Now we just turned the part in. But congratulations of everybody that had a lot of good things to say about you. So you're a hard worker and can compete, and you're going to be with some of the greatest coaches in the world. You've heard promise you won't make him to think with the great listen, I'd like talk to you longer. I'm gonna hand this phone were to

our head coach and he don't welcome you. Okay, Chas, Chaz Green, your Thirst, Jason Garrett here, how are you man, I'm doing great, Coach, Well, congratulations, I had a great visit with Coach must Champ yesterday. He speaks the world of you, and I'm excited to have you a part of this thing. Thirst. You're ready to get into work as soon as possible. Okay, very good, All right, congrats man, thank you, thank you. Okay, Well, that was Jerry Jones.

It's always been exciting for those kids. Jy. You looked at your phone and Jerry Jones is on the phone and and Jerry has a way of making these kids feel very special about their selection with the Dallas Cowboys. Chaz no different. Jason Garrett talk about gave you lew insight there. He talked to Will Muschamp, who's now the defensive coordinator at Auburn but was the head coach during

Chaz's career at Florida. So all they do is you try and get as much information as possible about these players, and that's what they're doing, talking about the most information as possible. Um A lot of questions about why Chaz Green over TJ Clemmings well with clumbings and that that stretch fracture in his foot, it's bad. You know, it's got to be bad. And that's the thing is just a lot of question marks about that, something that came up late in the process. When you're dealing with these,

uh these injuries, it's it's a tough thing. You have to listen to your doctors, listen to the trainers, and really go based off of what they tell you. And obviously with TJ Clemmings, the news the doctors gave not promising, No, not promising at all. So well, that's gonna do it for us tonight. We can't thank you guys enough for hanging out with us for these uh, for these two rounds, these second and third rounds are in the books for the Dallas Cowboys. I'd like to thank everybody was involved.

Dane Brugler, we had David Hellman. Uh, we had Kevin Turner, Jeff Kavanaugh, the only thing, Ken Garrison, Lauren Sokol, Douglas. Thank you guys so much for making our jobs so much easier. And again, thank you for everybody out there for listening to our broadcast. We're gonna do this again tomorrow morning. Kent, why don't you shoot me the time? What time we're going on the air tomorrow ten forty five am for an eleven o'clock draft Central time. Okay,

so ten forty five yeah, ten forty five am. We're gonna start this and we're gonna get through rounds four through seven. Four. So for all this, uh, this crew that has brought this to you, thank you so much for joining us. We'll see tomorrow morning and enjoy your evening, and we will again again seasonmorrow. Thank you. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club