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are not? But I'll tell you what. We are going to treat this like Dallas has every one of these picks because I'm excited leading up this draft. There's so much intrigue going on with the first several picks. Arizona, the Jets, Oakland. What's going to happen at the top of this board. You've got teams from the middle of the board trying to get to that spot. You know, You've got the New York Giants, well there at six,
We'll see what happens with them. We're going to talking about the Washington Redskins at fifteen, Dank Burglar, plenty plenty to talk about tonight. There's no doubt and it all starts at one. Arizona and I think we expect Kyler Murray to be the pick. I think that's fair, right, do we agree? I'm kind of having this debate in my head right now about Kyler Murray. And I'm having this debate because of Josh Rosen. But then again, why should I think anything different of the Arizona Cardinals who
fired their coach after one year? Yeah? Should we should? I should? I believe that chaos is going to happen there, you know? Should I should I believe that they're going to act like that? Oh? Well, we've already got a quarterback, but hey, let's go ahead and take this. Let's take this guy one overall when they actually had a top ten quarterback last year. But if you were with us this morning for our preview show, we kind of laid it out and Dane made a really good point that
why why why else are you doing this? You know, like, well, why did you bring Cliff Kingsbury here to not draft this guy? And and you know if if if Steve Kim and the off the personnel, the scouts there think that Nick bos is the better bet, that's fine, but you already messed up your last hire. You fired him after a year, you bring in you know this, this spread offense woundered kind like it. Why are you doing that? If you're going to draft the pass rusher? Why? I
don't get it. Yeah, that higher only makes sense if you compare him with Kyler Murray. In my opinion, and trust me selfishly, just for my own contrarian reasons, I want Kyler Murray to be a Raider, but I think at the end of the day, Murray's going to Arizona. Another reason why I think that talking to some players Arizona, this week at voluntary camp, they Cliff Kingsbury was installing some zone read a lot of stuff that Kyler did at Oklahoma. Okay, a lot of stuff that Cliff did
at Texas Tech. The type of offense that really fits a Kyler Murray in that skill set more so than a Josh Rosen. So based off of just install at voluntary minicamp, sure seems like they want more of a
mobile quarterback motion offense and that fits Kyler Murray perfectly. So, you know what, I applaud the Cardinals if they do draft Murray even though they drafted Rosen last year, because they're not they're showing they're not afraid to move on from a mistake, even though it's that's strong calling Rosen mistake,
but it's really strong calling him a mistake. But I believe if you see a chance to upgrade the most important position on your roster, done Okay, Well, didn't the Ramps upgrade their coaching staff and they got their top their quarterback to play better. But I mean in that way, in that why they got this guy there. They drafted him number one overall. Rosen was a fourth quarterback drafted. There's a there's a difference there. Plus, I think nobody
knows Josh Rosen more than the Cardinals. They've had him in the building the last year. They have a good understanding of who Josh Rosen is. And if they feel like they're getting a better option with Kyler Murray, then
I applaud them for it. Also, don't we know? Again, Like Cliff Kingsbury's infatuation with Kyler Murray has been well documented going back to when Texas A and M recruited him out of Dallas, Texas right, right, So if that's actual, if that's his guy again, you made what everybody agreed was like a very unorthodox, very risky coaching hire. You're trying to find the next Sean McVay. That's awesome, maybe you will, but why are you going to force him to work with the like a lesser? And I'm not
trying to, you know, trash Josh Rosen. I think he's a good player, but like, give him the guy that he wants, the best possible fit. You're setting everybody up out for failure if you're trying to make him work with a guy that's not going to fit what he wants to do. Do you guys, believe they have Rosen already traded and we're just not hearing about it. It's possible. I mean, I'm sure there's feelers out there, but I
don't think that they're it's a done deal necessarily. And then I don't think that's a that doesn't have to be a precursor to make this pick. They can draft Kyler Murray and then worry about trading Josh Rosen because again, this is not about making sure they get accurate value for Rosen. It's just about getting the better quarterback. And then they'll worry about Rosen later, whether he gets traded
tonight tomorrow after the draft, will see. Let me ask you this, would you feel the same way if Sam Darneld was at Arizona? Me personally, no, I think Sam Darnold's a better player. Okay, but that's what I'm saying, and they change coaches. Would you feel is it the fact that you don't like Josh Rosen why you're interested in making this trait or this this pick. I actually do like Josh Rosen, right, I I liked him more than a lot of people did. Sure, I'm not the
I'm not the quarterback whisperer. But I think he watched those guys all the time. I think he's a talented guy. Yeah, I don't. And you know, Jared Goff was bad his first year with the Rams. Good point by you mentioning the coaching staff. Yeah, but again, it's not about how bad Rosen is. It's like, why did you bring this dude here? Why did you try and do what the Rams did and fix that quarterback? I mean that that's that's but you have the ms. Did the Rams all
of a sudden learn how to play for? I mean, was it a talented roster that just was poorly coached? But you have a chance to draft the guy that's like Taylor made for what your coach wants to do. What do we acting like though that all Josh Rosen did was like drop back and throw the ball. He did He play in a pretty wide open off. He got beat up. He's not he's not a big time athlete though. I mean he's not. He's not Kyler Murray. No,
he's a pocket passer. And that's fine. Man. You guys are just and it surprises me a little bit about you, Brugler. What he's I expect that from hellman? What no no, I you expect a little bit more knee jerk from you. I do. Okay, I'm not saying this is what I would do. I'm saying I applaud the Cardinals for how would you feel if you're a scout in Arizona? Right now? Dane?
It doesn't matter, Okay, it does not matter all right? Again, The Cardinals think they're upgrading the most important position in all of sports. That's all that matters. Nothing else matters. It doesn't matter that they invested a first a top ten pick plus more draft capital into Josh Rosen. It does not matter that they've already paid him a pretty hefty portion of the signing bonus. None of that matters.
All that matters is they are upgrading the most important position on their roster, the car like come and GM should be fired then for picking him there? Right? Well, no, no, no, why you can't? I mean, well, why why not? He's you know, it's not the Rosen pick that bothers me. The GM hired Wilkes, did he not? He did, and he was apparently so terrible at his job, and so then him and Wilkes far the GM. They should know. The GM should not be there In my opinion, I
don't like none of it makes sense to me. What they are doing does not make sense. I do not think that that dude should have a job based on like they they're basically restarting their restart like that's and that's that's awful, Like if you need a mulligan after one year, that's terrible. But my point is you went out and hired Kingsbury, didn't You didn't go Higher or Wilkes, like,
you didn't go hire them. You didn't go hire Chris Richard like the long you know, if Chris Rochard was there, you move forward with Josh Rosen because he's a defensive mind and coach. Anyway, you hire a guy that can help him get better. To your point, but you made this bold, offensive spread modern era of football hire and then you're gonna try to pair him with a pocket passer. Why just because you already did, Like, just because you already made that pick, so you don't want to look
stupid twice. Yeah, okay, let's let's be honest with you. Though. When the Arizona had the first round pick, what about Kyler Murray was all about playing baseball? Here? They made another that's a whole another they made They made a hire with him not I don't think he committed to No, he did not commit the drafted till January fifteenth or fourteenth. They made that. They made the hire of Cliff Kings very independent of anything else and thinking Josh Rosen gonna
be their quarterback. It did, It wasn't official that Kyler Murray would be choosing football. Now again, I think we're I'm trying to simplify this as make it as simple as possible. Kyler. They feel Kyler Murray is a better option, is going to help them win more games than Josh Rosen. Playing it simple, That's it. Okay, it doesn't matter and nothing else matters. Doesn't matter what they the resources they used to draft Josh Rosen, doesn't matter, the contract, none
of that matters. I mean, I personally, I would draft Nick Bosa, keep Josh Rosen, and I feel like on the right road to get better as a football team. They see a chance to upgrade their quarterback position, and again it's not what I would do, but I applaud them for moving on from what they view as how do we know what Josh Rosen is? Nope, but no one knows better. No one knows better than the Cardinals
because they they're with him. Trust the Cardinals. That's probably why they have the first pick, which is why it goes back to my point, like, I don't care what the GM wants. You got me in this mess. And you're right that that's a fair point that Kingsbury was hired before Kyler Murray was an option. But if we're taking this at face value, that Cliff Kingsbury is enamored with Kyler Murray and that's the guy set your new coach up for success. Your GM got you in this
problem in the first place. Yeah, I don't care what he thinks. And from an ownership standpoint, talking about I mean, this stuff shouldn't matter, but it does. Butts and seats eyeballs on your franchise. What's going to be more exciting? What are people going to tune in to watch Kyler Murray or Josh Rosen. Yeah, they're going to tune in to people winning games. Whoever that is, if it's Kyler
Murray or Josh Rosen. You're right. But even like the Cleveland Browns were still a talking point before they started winning games, absolutely drafted Baker Mayfield. Absolutely at all of America was tuning into that Week three Jets Browns game to see if he was going to get in, and before it was clear that Mahomes was just going to be, you know the truth, a NFL MVP, people were tuning in the watch the Chiefs because Mahomes was exciting and
Kyler Burwery that's what they're hoping he can be. So it's it's an opportunity to upgrade the most important position on the roster. Playing simple and again not what I would do necessarily, but I understand what they're doing, and you know, I give him credit for that. Put it this way. Jacksonville Jaguars a couple of years ago, they had a chance to draft to Shaun Watson or Patrick
Mahomes with with the fourth overall pick. What they do They drafted Leonard Fournette to try and help their struggling quarterback. They were stubborn about their young quarterback. Instead of saying, you know what, let's cut bait, let's upgrade a quarterback position with one of these young guys. Let's take a chance, they drafted a running back to try and help the passing game. And we know how that's worked out, Go upgrade your quarterback if that's if you feel that you
are doing that with a better talent. Yeah, Dane, tell him, Tell him, Dane. And no, I'm not I'm all about upgrading the talent. I really am. But but again, I just you know, to me, I just remember what happened with the with the rams and when they made the switch with a quarterback or when they made the switch with the coach. Yeah, that was a difference, you know it was, and and with an unknown coach they did that with an a Really at least this guy's got
a track record of losing games. So let's follow me here, because you know how this goes. You've been on that side of the building. Oh yeah, you know how stubborn these coaches are. Absolutely That's why whoever they pick at fifty eight. If the Cardinal's interest in Murray has persisted up until we're about to go on the clock, don't you think Kingsbury's probably pretty interested aka not thrilled about Rosen.
Isn't that fair? See, this is where I feel like that they should have not been stubborn about moving Rosen. I think they're just creating more issues there. If you're gonna make this change, make a clear path. Well, they can do that after they get Murray. I mean they there's a good chance that happens tomorrow. There's a good chance it does. I think they could be crazy to go into like team exercises with on the roster. I agree.
So I'm saying that's there's a good chance that happens this weekend tomorrow, and that's what we're Okay, they were they too stubborn here. Should they have taken somebody, somebody offered a second round pick? Should they have taken that? I don't think they got that offer. I think they would have if they got the offer, I'm not sure they did. I like, I don't know enough about the mechanics of that to really have a take on that. But there's nothing but like, you didn't have to do
this before the draft. And then you know, if if they get their socks knocked off by some offer, you know, in the next fifteen minutes and they still have rosen I don't think that's going to happen though. Okay, this good discussion, by the way, guys, I appreciate. Good start to the show. Could start to this draft. Let's in fact, see what's going to happen here with the Arizona Cardinals.
They we mentioned they have the first pick in this draft, and so the commissioner they've gone to a commercial break right now. We'll see if the commissioner he should be up afterwards to start this draft. Dan kind of talk about some things, other things that you've heard you mentioned. San Francisco has been really, really quiet. They're just gonna take you know, are they gonna sit there if in fact they're They're just prepared to pick Bosa, aren't they
if in fact that Arizona does pass on him. I think so that's the vibe I get, that's what I've been told. But you know, Quinn Williams is out there. He would make some sense. They added d Ford in the off season. But yeah, I think you had Nick Bosa all of a sudden, what was not too long ago, a weakness, a pretty big weakness on that roster. Looks like a strength with Bosa and d Ford. Obviously they've
got the guys on the interior with the Forrest Buckner. Yeah, you know that defensive lineman they've invested in the first round in recent years. So boasted to me, would be the obvious pick, and I think that's what they're gonna do. Yeah, and then then then three with the Jets. That's when things get a little interesting. If I could go back to the forty nine ers real quick there, David, we're hearing word about Solomon Thomas potentially being on the block.
I know it's been reliably reported to me that he was a top ten player on their boards, Cowboys board in two thousand and seventeen. So it might be interesting. Yeah, it will be interesting in fact, because what we've talked about all along about this team, they've been hunting those three techniques, they've been hunting that undertackle. There's a lot of people that believed that Solomon Thomas needed just to
change of scenery and it might help him. He's a kid that went to the school here locally, cop Hill High School, just up the road, and it maybe if they, you know, if they were able to make some kind of deal, you know, you know, we we've kind of again we've talked about guys like Tristan Hill and people like that. You know, is Salomon Thomas a better player?
It would Salomon Thomas keep you from having to maybe reach on a defensive tackle if in fact they were interested in San Francisco, wasn't fact interested in moving Salomon Thomas along. I love to say it. The guys in the war room don't ask for my opinion, but I like the sound of that. You get a minimum of two years of cheap, relatively cheap work outably three million dollars a year. He was the second round, second overall pick, fifth year option, so up to three years of club control.
He's from the Dallas area, so you would have to think, you know, if he wants a change of scenery, this might be a welcome place. You know, he's had some tragedy and his family going back to last year and again, yeah, I mean I feel better about you know, depending on the price. I't I wouldn't want to give up pick fifty eight. No, no, no, maybe talking about you know, maybe that maybe one of the third round at ninety,
you know, which we've kind of been start. I would love to start with a fourth see if that gets it done. And I don't know if that's realistic. Okay, but even at ninety, you could talk me into drafting or i'm sorry, trading for what was a top ten talent rather than try to reach for a guy Dallas at one twenty eight that would be their first of the two fourth round picks they have. I would do a backflip in that scenario. So when twenty eight, are
you good with that, Dane? Would you be? And again, and I'm putting you on the spot a little bit because here you are looking at college players. You know, I, honestly myself, I look at pro players. I haven't seen San Francisco a whole heck of a lot, you know, So I can't sit there and say, oh, with certainty. You know, I think if Solomon Thomas was playing well, that we would you know, this wouldn't be something that San Francisco was trying to do. Let me throw a
scenario at you. San Francisco offers pick sixty seven, their
first third round pick, Solomon Thomas for fifty eight. Yeah, so you're moving back yeah what eight spots or so eight spots and Solomon Thomas, Yeah, eight spots and you're not picking in the first two round a guy that but well, but you get a guy that was a top ten talent third pick in the draft and you're moving back eight spots, which and they're you know, they're the different what you just did there, the difference betweense you're trying to make it work for both teams is
what you're trying to do. On the trade chart, it's about difference of sixty points, right, and that's about a mid fourth round pick, so you know, so that way you're keeping your force, but you're giving up to fifty eight, which is really likely time to talk about the third round in San Francisco. It gets back in the second round. Yeah, the beauty of it too. And you know there's a big difference between pick thirty two and thirty three because
of the fifth year option. It doesn't matter, right, it doesn't matter between the second and third rounds. So I love that idea. We need to keep an eye on that. We need to keep an eye on which, Yeah, I just s don't feel like, you know, some point in time, you know, when someone's Twitter feed is going to blow
up with maybe that Salomon Thomas gott moved. I just wonder how you know, we talked about how long after the Cardinals draft Murray would they wait to deal Rosen If Bos' is the pick to San Francisco, how long do they you know? Is that something they you know they could hold onto him all the way through training camp if they wanted to, right, you know, or they could deal in this weekend. I don't you know, It's it's hard to speculate. All right. You are listening to
coverage of the two and nineteen NFL Draft. It's brought to you by Miller Lyte. Once again, A Miller Lyte is the only beer of the Cowboys. We're still waiting on the commissioner to make his way to the podium. Here they are in a commercial break. We're kind of spitballing some ideas here waiting for this draft to start. Uh more rumors day, we've Dave, You've kind of talked about Oakland. That's kind of your fun wild cards. You're chaired for the Raiders tonight because you want to see
chaos from them. Yeah, you know, John Gruden's a friend of the show. He's absolutely friend of the show. He's your friend, so he's my friend. He's such a friend. He didn't call me back when I wished him good luck. He fired all of his assistance. He told me why he did that. They wanted to talk to NFL network. That's right. I don't think he probably returned his mom's phone calls yes week, so you know, his dad was a former scout and stuff, so he knows how important
all this is. Yeah, so mayoff they could go anywhere here, can they? Yes? I mean they could, you know, they keep talking about Haskins, but they could they take Murray? Could it just have been a smoke screen all along to take Murray if in fact he does get past Arizona. That's just what I'm like. We just, yeah, we haven't really considered it, just because we don't think Murray's getting past one, okay, you know, And so that's why we haven't really thrown that idea. There's a bunch of folks
in Oakland that want that to happen. By the way, maybe, you know, to go back to Brian's point, maybe in February, Kingsbury was like, I can make it work with Rosen, but let's try to let's try to get something. When I'm interviewing, I mean, if I'm a GM, if I'm kind and I'm we can't going back to this. But if I was kind, I would ask him that question, can you fix my guy? My job is on the line here, you know, maybe his job's not on the line.
If if I wanted to trade number one, though, I would have just annwled, Hey, it's up for sale, Like we're good with Josh Rosen, he's our he's our starting quarterback, say like being very vague about Josh Rosen being your starter long term. That tells me that they're very interested in Kyler Murray. Doesn't tell me they want out of there. Well, but that's but so, But that keeps circling back. Maybe they're trying to drum up interest because they want people
to believe that they're gonna draft Murray. I don't understand. I don't understand that theory because if I can trade for number one, then they don't want Murray. They're not gonna draft them. Either you're drafted Murray or not. No trade offers gonna get it. You just don't want me to have fun tonight, do you? Well? No, I mean the Raiders. I understand that because maybe they get someone to trade up, you know, because there's two in three,
But at number one, I don't know. I just I do you feel like the Raiders need to move to the Jets to the one spot similar to what Chicago did and at the time we thought What a bad move that was, but they got the guy they wanted. Yeah, do the Raiders need to do that for I mean
for any reason? And well if they want Hoskins, I mean, if they feel like there's a chance that the Redskins or another team the Giants at six yeah, could go up, then yeah sure, I mean you're getting your quarterbacks all matter. What do you think is the likelihood that it goes Arizona neck then down? Wow? Wow, I'm already drawn a blank. Who's that San Francisco? And what are the odds that it goes all for in a row? Arizona, San Francisco,
New York, Oakland? Good question. If Kyler goes one, say Bostly goes to then then things get interesting and it just comes to Jets. Yeah, it comes down just one out of there. Mike mccagnan knows. Everybody knows that just one out of there, so good bet says they do, But I don't know. All right, Well, we're still again waiting on the Commissioner to make his way to the podium. Looking at the clock here in the studio, we're at
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clock right now and we will see. In fact, as you notice, we have some really cool graphics here if you're watching along here, Kent Garrison, the crews have come up with some really cool stuff. You'll see the team, you will see the round, you'll see who's on the clock, and then who is picking next. Uh. You'll see a crawl on the bottom that kind of helps you long
and we also encourage you. You can use the hashtag right Dave, the Cowboys Drays hashtag Cowboys Draft too if you want to put some stuff up on the crawl right there and everybody can and take a look at that. In the green room there at the Nashville there's showing Kyler Murray as we speak. And the Arizona Cardinals, like I said, they have nine minutes left on their pick. Hopefully they know Dane who they want to take. They don't take the full nine minutes. That was something that
I did in nineteen ninety eight. If you go full time. I didn't take the full time. No, I didn't everybody else. It was when fifteen minutes were going on. And okay and okay, there we go, and we're gonna look into the war room once again. This is at the Ford Center. Is the war room cam and a relaxed bunch. That is a very relaxed bunch. You could see the Walter Jueliff there to the left, a National Scout, Jerry Junior there, Uh, Jerry Jones in the middle, Will McClay. Everybody's hunkering down
in there. Who's Jerry Senior chatting with I can't tell. It looks like Jason Garrett is Who's that's usually Jason Garrett, Yeah, the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, absolutely, so it's it's a little dark in there. Yeah. Everybody looking very dapper in there, you know, everybody coats and ties and then then they'll be like us, they'll put on the Miller light polos here for that day three action with Saturday with the scouts. That's the day of the scouts.
So we're at eight minutes now for the pick for the Arizona Cardinals. Again, we look around the room there if you look at the ball, if you're watching along with us, on the bottom right, that's Adam Pacifica with the glasses on the ball headed gentleman. Todd Williams next to him. Those are the two cap guys right there that handle things. Chris Hall, who's the college scouting coordinator is usually sits to the right of Todd Williams. He's really in charge of the board and then all the
information that comes in from the scouts he sets. He does a great job. Usually after the draft when free agencies going on, he's the guy in charge of kind of making sure that they're signing players that are off their draft board. Of course, Will McClay Stephen Jones there to Will's right, So it looks like everybody is in
the war room accounted for. We see is at Charlotte Jones, Anderson's Anderson's gonna He's gonna send you actual's got snacks, best best dressed in the if you're Yeah, if you're showing up in the war room with snacks, that's a good thing right there. That's somebody you should let in the war room, you know. But anyway, still waiting on this, still waiting on this pick. Arizona probably gonna take the
full allotment of time. You guys have kind of assured me that, okay, this will be okay if they take this quarterback because you feel like though that Josh Rosen will be moved at a later time. Yeah, everybody want to jump in on that one. I mean, look, Rosen essentially becomes part of this draft class. Yeah, this draft class adds a quarterback, and so who does not get their quarterback in the first round and gets a little
desperate and needs to go after the quarterback. A team to watch and all this that we don't really talk enough about is Miami. This is a team that we've saying they're gonna punt this year, wait till next year, get their quarterback. If the asking price is what it is, what we expected to be. Heck, Miami, why not you know it's at the cost is so low. Go get a guy like Josh Rosen and see what happens if if you're not satisfied after a year, and you're picking
early anyways, then you go after a new quarterback. But with the asking price as low as it is, or at least what we think, why not go after Josh Rosen If you're a team like Miami. Miami's got pick forty eight and pick seventy eight right now, and we kind of think that Miami with Chris Greer is in a rebuilding mode. They're looking at this time possibly next year of grabbing their quarterback or Justin Herbert, Yeah, I
follow you, and I don't think you're crazy. But the Dolphins are set up to be god awful, So I love. I mean, they're gonna be picking in the top five unless something nuts goes on. So I just you always want the new thing, right, and the new thing is to h or Herbert and that just sounds a lot more appealing than dealing for a quarterback that nobody seems to want. So all of a sudden, you're a Rosen hater. I'm I'm a Rosen fan. But do you watch How
I Met Your Mother? Great show? New New is always better. To quote Barney Stenson, it is, so that's what I But again, if the asking price is, you know, not prohibitive, then you know, why not? What are we giving up? I mean, pick forty eight is a lot, especially if you're gonna be in position a draft. I mean, you don't want to be What if it happened to Rosen again? What if the Dolphins drafts traded for him and they go through this terrible year and now the Dolphins are like, well,
we could get too, what do we do well? I have a feeling though, that his career might be one of those where that he never really finds a spot. It's kind of like a little bit like Sam Bradford yeah, you know that Sam Bradford, the first overall pick. He went from the RAM. I mean he at least he had an opportunity, you know, to play a little bit and prove a couple of years where he was terrible. Yeah, he had a couple of years where he wasn't terrible
and injuries kind of affected the way. But Dan Dan made a face. That's the first of about five dozen faces that Dana is gonna make at me, probably, Yeah, And that's you know, if you look at right now with the with Arizona, Brett Huntley is their backup quarterback and Chad can off. So so you know, maybe you guys are maybe you guys are right, maybe we need to keep both those quarterbacks involved here. Okay, they've now
focused in on the Arizona Cardinals war room. Uh as we look at it, Steve Kim Cliff Kingsbury there so well, Nashville has passed absolutely raining by the way, Oh it is raining there. So let's hope the folks, I hope that doesn't turn into something really disastrous there with all those folks. The fact there there's so many people in the shot leads me to believe that maybe it's just a drizzle, you know. Yeah, well could be. Again, we're focused in on the war room at the Ford Center.
We kind of identified all the folks that are involved in the draft US. Again. I see Lionel Vital and there all the national scouts are over on that left hand side right there, So you know, those are the guys that will sit in if they need as as they as Dallas will make picks. We'll talk about coaches coming in and out, maybe some scouts coming in and out, but that's gonna be your group you're going to see for the next three days. Again, it's not a group that we There's not a lot of change, not a
lot of turnover with that group right now. So you know that's the one thing when you have a consistent group your team to pick better. So and there they go because they've had enough of me talking about them. Okay, Michael Bidwell is on the phone, Ki and Steve kim is on the phone. So you got is Steve Kime is cell phone on or does he is at their war room table looks like ours? Yeah, they were messy
in there. Well they've got again, they got a general manager on the phone and they've got their owner on the phone as well. Two minutes and twenty seconds left for the opportunity. That looks like they have a They're at the State Farm Stadium, Arizona, has a draft party going on. Looks like a pretty day there in Glendale. So hopefully they will know very soon who their pick will be. We all seem to believe that it will
be the quarterback Kyler Murray. Are they doing that? Are they doing that thing where they're not going to cut to Kyler on the phone and the interest of not tipping to pick, Yeah, they're not gonna tip it. Yeah, well we'll see. In fact, it's also not showing Nick Boss. I'm just saying, just saying, yeah, Well that's the fans that have traveled from Arizona to Nashville. They're waiting patiently
as we are for this pick. You know, I think that to me, I agree with you guys about this draft and where I think it's it's gonna have some really some interest. I think at three. I know we've talked about one in what's going on there, but I'm interested to see if the Jets really get to move out of that spot one. I'm really interested to see that one way or another. It's going to get nuts
after this. I think we said it on the pre draft show, like either either the Josh Rosen sweepstakes is about to open or the Kyler Murray sweepstakes is about to open, and then yeah, the number or three team doesn't want to pick there. We got were two teams in the NFC East, one a quarterback and might try to trade up for one. I'm intrigued. We're inside a
minute now for Arizona on this pick. Just for the first round, it will be ten minutes between picks, and then in the second round it goes to seven minutes and then five minutes from the third round on. So still waiting patiently for Arizona. Dane. If you're sitting there right as you're watching this, shouldn't don't you feel like the picks should have been made right now they started the clock over. Yeah, I mean forty nine ers should
be on the clock now, Yeah, this should be. They haven't switched the graphic over, so the pick should be in. We'll see if the commissioner in fact goes to the podium. Dave restar K pick is in officially, we'll wait for the podium for the Commissioner Kick Garrison always does a great job of getting there, getting us there in time for that. So let's in fact see what direction the Arizona Cardinals will be going in. Uh we all believe
that it will be Kyler Murray. I'm starting to sound like I'm beating a dead horse right now with that. But let's see if in fact that they've that they've made this uh, this made this pick um again. They they they they started trying to get us there. I've tried trying to get I'm trying so hard to get you there because that's just make the pick. Yeah, I don't understand why it's taken so long for them to
get this pick. They say the picks in and you know, we need to figure out again they started the clock like San Francisco was on the clock, but they've got San Francisco, you know, So you know, this a lot going on here right now. Like let's let's be blunt. This is an event that's not meant to be a prime time event, and it is and it is. That's just something we all have to fight through. Okay, Well,
here comes the commissioner. Help me out, Kent where the first pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL draft the Arizona Cardinals. So like Kyler Murray, Kylaback, just so it is, okay, Yeah, assumed Kyler Murray is the first overall selection. We're often running, folks, We are often running two hundred and fifty three left to may. Well, hopefully they go a little bit fast and a little bit smoother. You aren't wrong than just what happened. Okay, this is where I love this part
of the show. Dane Burglar tell me about Kyler Murray. Well, first of all, I'm just happy I didn't get shut out in my mock draft. There. I got one right, so we're good there. Uh. Props to Kyler Murray. He's a top ten pick in Major League Baseball. Now, a top ten pick, the first overall pick in the NFL. It's never happened before. That's rare. So props to him getting a quarterback who is very unconventional. He's very unique
the skill set that he offers. He looks like a mini Mahomes out there, and that's probably the best compliment I could give to him. Now, again, you worry about the size, but with a whip for an arm, he's naturally accurate. The athleticism that talk about passing instincts for a quarterback, it's hard to describe in words, but just kind of you know, Patrick Mahomes, he has passing instincts. Kyler Murray, I think he has those instincts and that's
what the Cardinals are betting on here. Well, I really real quick, sorry, go ahead, go ahead. You I mean you just sort of compared Kyler's arm to Mahomes, which I know stylistically how baseball player type guys. What I want to know is how far how many notches below Mahomes, because Mahomes is insane. Yeah, in terms of arms strength, he's not quite there, but he has plenty of arm strength.
And stylistically, because they use different arm angles, you know, they throw off platform and they're still able to be accurate. And that's the one thing with Kyler Murray. He's a naturally accurate thrower of the football. And I think that's something that shows on tape. It shows when he's out of structure, shows when he's comfortable in the pocket. Uh. He just has those instincts that make him really really
tough to defend. Yeah, I know. The thing I think that is so impressive about Kyler Murray to me is the escapability, you know when when in this day and age, I think in the national football you have to have that ability to make people miss. You have to be able to handle the pressure off the edge. You have to deal with the pressure inside. But those guys that come off the edge, they can handle that. I think that and I'll see you another thing. This guy, he
is an impressive ball handler. I mean you're talking about uh you know, And that's the thing. I think you got to give him a homes a lot of credit. The slide of hand, the way that these guys play, the way they show you the ball, then they pull the ball. Now the ball's out into the flat and then you know, into space and getting up the field. So you know, I mean he this guy Dane's absolutely right. He will make all kinds of throws from all levels
of the pockets. And I think if he does make mistakes, it's because the mistakes come from him trying to do too much. That's where I think. I think he's a smart quarterback with the ball. But I also think if you want to look at his mistakes, generally they come from him trying to do too much in my struggles with Kyler Murray on tape. We're basically he's playing in an offense that is catered to him. He's playing behind
the best offensive line in college football. He's playing in a conference that who's the best pass rusher in the Big twelve? I mean, yeah, amna who something like that? And who has a fourth or fifth round pickup? Exactly. Yeah, The coverage isn't great in the Big twelve. So it's just what he's going to face in the NFL compared to what he faced in the Big twelve. It's gonna
be a big jump for him. And we saw that in the Orange Bowl against Alabama, and his credit, he made adjustments and he was better than the second half. But how is it going to be when he has to face sixteen Alabama's in a full NFL schedule. There's gonna be a learning curve for him. The sight lines aren't always going to be there. He's going to take some tougher hits. I mean, he was able to stay healthy and you know stay you know, he did a
really nice job of eluding defenders and staying clean. That's not going to be as easy with NFL speed. So I'm very eager to see how he makes that transition, which you know, we talked about the way the Cardinals handled this and it's kind of unprecedented, and the graphic has already been dredged up on social media, you know, the back on February twelfth, Cliff Kingsbury said, Josh is our guy and the Cardinals social media team, I totally understand like they made a big graphic. They'm trying to
like play their part, which we've been on that. We're on that side of it right now. Absolutely. I can absolutely imagine Dana Burns and Taylor Stern doing the same thing. And uh, you know, I feel bad for the Cardinals social team because they're just doing their best and now this is going to get thrown back in their face. Well, and how that's the risk you take. How about when they released the schedule and did you see that the
Cardinals released a video with the schedule. They didn't put that right, and then the next day they redid it and included Rosen And so it's just as as an employee of an NFL team, I feel for you Cardinals employees because you tried to do the best you could in a no win situation that the Cardinal's front office put you in. Okay, but yeah you got a new quarterback, thank you. So the forty nine ers pick is in.
We'll go to the commissioner here in a little bit. Yeah, this is a team that if you look at their needs and stuff, you know, edge rusher is one that we talked about, wide receiver, cornerback, but day we think this is this is the Bosa all the way right, in my opinion, is the best player in the draft. And again we talked about how pass rush was a big weakness on this team. They've been looking for that edge rusher and they think they found him in d Ford.
But you can never have too many edge rushers. You add Nick Bosa to that mix, and all of a sudden, that San Francisco front seven it looks like one of the better units in NFL defenses right now. So yeah, I think Nick Bosa is the pick here. And then the entry really starts at three. There's a lot of trade chatter going on at three, at four, and the
rest of the top ten. So Kyler Murray is the first overall pick of the Arizona Cardinal Stabe, you have something just the Niners have from the minute that the Murray speculation started at the top, they have to have just been giddy. Well here we go, Kick Garrison, give us the pody please. With the second pick in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the San Francisco forty nine are selected,
Nick Bosa. Nick Bosa, I won't make that mistake again. Ah, it's a good point, Dane, Nick Bosa, don't overthink it. You know, he's for a guy that's twenty one and a half years old, he's so advanced using his hands, breaking down the rhythm of blockers. It doesn't matter what you throw at him. He has an answer for it. Quickness, power, technique. He's a very smart guy and just like his brother Joey, it's not going to take long for Nick to contend for Pro Bowls in the NFL. He is that type
of talent. Yeah, I think that. To me, I think it was really unfortunate that we didn't get to see this guy. The injury, the growing injury. Matter of fact, I asked a couple of teams around the league of you know this, I don't have a first round pick here, but I wanted to know how they feel They've called it a core injury, and so they felt like though that everything was okay there and the forty nine ers
have got themselves and edge rusher. Cowboys will see them Dave first preseason game this year, so it kind of becoming a tradition. Yeah, kind of like that we got going up there. Not a bad not a bad deal for us. But if you're on if you're on the cover of Dane's Beasts, well yeah, which Nisa is. Yeah, and it's probably pretty good. And I'll tell you what though, I mean, Nick Bosa, that's an impressive I mean, like a really really impressive pass rusher right there. I just
I'm a I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of his ability to bend. Now, that's the thing I really like about this man, because you know, I think that in this day and age, you've got to be able to get to the corner, and but you got to be able to bend. You can't stay up right
high and all that. You These these blockers are so good at pushing you by the quarterback, and I just you just see so many times where he has a feel for how to dip that shoulder, get low, stay parallel to the ground, and then attack the quarterback right at the level, not get too deep, not run past the quarterback. You're always going to see him trying to attack the ball. He's gonna go for the turnovers. That's something you got to like about him. And I'm a big, big,
big fan is Dane. You'll see this guy sometimes play down in a reduced role right at at tackle, right inside a little bit, so there's some flexibility. Yeah, you want him to play wide and rush and all that, but you also want, you know, if you got it, maybe maybe some special packages where they could put him on the outside shoulder of the guard and just let him fly up the field. That's something I could think he could be pretty good at it. Really, all it
came down to is just the durability. As long as the doctor's signed off, and he was a core muscle injury we're talking about. Yeah, no big you know, long term concerns there. As long as the doctors signed off, it's an easy pick. The forty nine ers and what they did this offseason with d Ford and some other editions out front seven, you know, they really turned a weakness into a strength. And now Solomon Thomas watch kind of yeah, he said a little bit, and then and
and I'm glad we had this discussion. I'm glad we had that discussion about the draft before the draft, about Solomon Thomas. And again he went to high school here in Dallas. Coppelle actually was a second overall picked by the forty nine ers. Is really likely needs a change of scenery. And the forty nine ers are dangling him out there right now as a guy that potentially could be had if you give them the right compensation for him, which I just I wonder what the timeline is, you know, like, yeah,
and only they know, I mean, are they are they? Well, that's a good thing. Yeah, That's the great thing about Twitter, because somebody will come up with Nick, It's gonna be with Solomon Thomas news here and there. So we'll keep we'll keep a close this is going on that this is not Solomon Thomas. Leah, but I just you know me, Brian,
I love it. I love a good tweet. And in the aftermath of the Kyler Murray pick, Jalen Hurts tweeted, well LLL yeah, the expected starter for Oklahoma, which is the last two Oklahoma quarterbacks have gone one overall, no offense Jalen. I don't think you're going to continue the streak, but I wish you the best of luck. Running backs go first overall too. Wow, not today, not in today's NFL. They don't trying to make a joke. But I know,
I know, you know. Let me ask you this though, if you would have done the team needs for Arizona before this all went down, I know what, I'm kind of going back to Arizona, But would you have had quarterback as one of them? Of course? Not? Okay, I just was I mean, because I'm trying to think. You know, pro guys always think about pro scouts always think about when you know, when Jerry Jones used to ask me, Brian, what team is going to take a defensive end? You
know what team's going to take an offensive tackle? Yeah. I always tried to prep hearing myself, and I wouldn't have prepared myself to say that Arizona was going to take a quarterback. But the card I know, I'm going back. I'm sorry, the Jets are on the clock's two picks away. Think I mean, think of the timeline of everything. It's just it's it's amazing how Kyler Murray went from oh, yeah, he's gonna be a baseball player, but yeah, it'd be fun if he played football. Maybe he'd be a top
one hundred pick. Maybe. And then all of a sudden, we get to December, Christmas time, and it's like, hey, this is he might this is this is getting this is getting real. Kyler might go football and if he does, maybe he's a top fifty pick. Maybe he can't get in the first round. Early January, he makes decision, I'm playing football, and all of a sudden, okay, now could he be a first round pick? And then we get to the Super Bowl. He has this disastrous interview on
the Dan Patrick Show. The timeline's fascinating. We did the combine, We get to the combine, and all of a sudden, it seems pretty it's a realized thought that he's gonna be the number one pick. He becomes the favorite at number one overall. So it's really fast. He does number one overall pick because of the the head coach that's now there, Yes, that part of it is that is he the is he the head coach? Because because and matter of fact, Dave, you're really good with the agents.
Eric Burkhart, Is that who He's got both Kyler Murray and Cliff. That was not a coincidence. That is not a coinctence at all. Tie it all back into Texas. I believe he was Johnny Manzelle's agent as well. It was Eric Burkhart and Cliff Kingsbury were friends back at Texas Tech, right. Their friendship goes way back to college days. So so maybe that made Kyler Murray's decision to give up baseball a lot easier to know that. To answer your question, the Cardinals did us all a favor and
telegraphed this whole thing from the get so. No, like the Combine, we all kind of feel what was going on with the Combine. And when Steve Klem got up in front of the whole world and said, Rosen's our guy for now. Well, and I'll say this, at the Senior Bowl, I was sitting with someone who I trust and he told me, Kyler Murray got the guarantee. That's why you Jo's football, That's why he signed with Deerk Burkhardt.
He got the guarantee. And I was like, no, come on, you really think he's gonna go number one Arizona with Josh Rosen. He got the guarantee. There we go and we'll say this, Well, we won't know that until the thirty for thirty and thirty years, but that we'll see. It's such a hard debate because Kyler Murray is gonna get the hell beat out of him. Uh no, Like there's no doubt about it. Just playing quarterback, especially for a bad team in the first few years of his career.
And what what was it? What was his contract with the A's, Like he was gonna get eight million, eight million dollars signing bonus or something like that. Six six He already got the bonus. Yeah, well he got a portion of it. Might have to give some of that bad Yeah, but he's gonna get thirty two million guaranteed or roughly that. I'm looking at Baker Mayfield's contract four years, thirty three thirty two point six million. But man, if he's a stud baseball player, he can out earn that
in a heartbeat without getting hit every day. So it's it's a huge bite he might not have. I mean, top ten baseball prospects flop all the time. Yeah, I just want to excuse me. Day just want to remind everybody that our coverage of The twenty nineteen NFL Draft is brought to you by Miller Lite. Again, we have the the crawl going across the bottom of the screen hashtag Cowboys Draft. If you want to put something in there to kind of catch our attention, we'd be happy
to see that. Okay, the New York Jets. We've kind of thought all along that maybe the Jets would try and back out of this pick. It looks like they did not get anybody interested watch this thing. Just everybody picked their guys and nobody move. Kind of a thing that I know they're they're thinking about it. But the Jets, Dane, you know, we talk about them though. You know where they went and got their quarterback last year. You know,
they have to be happy about that. I mean, but they need to find They need to find some some get some guys, some weapons and stuff around him. Maybe approved the offensive line there a little bit with the Jets kind of think about what direction does this again? Is this Quinnon Williams right here. They want trying to
get help. They want to get out of this pick, but they're not going to be able to write and so because they want to get offensive line health, they need help elsewhere they want another second round pick, or they want a second round pick. They're not gonna be able to get out of this pick. And so don't overthink it. Take the best player that's on the board, and that's Quinn and Williams. There are two elite players in this draft, Nick Bosa, Quinn and Williams. Don't overthink
it too, you and I agree with you. I mean, that's how you make mistakes is by reaching. But like, this isn't one of their biggest needs. It's just he's just that good of it. They're looking at outside linebacker potential. This is where Alan could be maybe even a corner here. The Commissier's on the podium. With the third pick in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the New York Jets select Quintin Williams. Good job, Dame Burglar and Leonard Williams, who
was their first round pick. You know four years ago. He's in the final year of his deal, so you know, they no pressure to make sure they resign him, and they again got one of the two best players in this draft. You know, it's funny you talk about you talk about Williams. If you go back to that trap with the Byron Jones. Straft was twenty fifteen. Sure was.
He and Byron Jones are the two players that have played the most games in a career out of that out of that round that they're the ones that have made the most starts for their team. How boys are pretty good at drafting, aren't they. Well, Laron Williams was pick six, yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Jones was
pick twenty seven, twenty yeah. So that that just show you that that that that that that's the kind of thing though that you want you want to get those guys that could play a just a ton of snaps for you, a ton of games. Quinnon Williams, Dane, can you describe Quinnin Williams for me in a little bit? A restro sophomore, first year starter who just burst onto
the scene this year. He credit to him. He was a defensive end, but he saw Deron Payne leave early and he thought, okay, you know what, I could add some weight and I could win a position here. He won the starting those guard job and Alabama's starting three four bass and he was dominant. And you watch his tape and it's okay, this A and M tape this is his signature tape. This is what we're gonna be talking about throughout the process. Then you watch Missouri and
it's better. Then you watch LSU and it's better. Arkansas better than that, and on and on and on. He's just a dominant player. It doesn't matter quickness, power, instincts. He can beat you with so much. He really leaves blockers and guessing and grasping for air. He can be a pass rusher, he can be dominant versus the run. I had someone on Twitter asked me if my weakness is section for him? And my skying report and my guide was the least amount of words I've ever used
in a weakness section. And it might be him, you know, maybe Quent Nelson last year. But there's just there's not a lot to dislike about the player. Dave one year production scares so many people. Why doesn't it scare you with him? Well, because he's redshirt sophomore. It's not like he's a senior who couldn't find the field, you know, and he he red shirted and then as a red shirt freshman last year is a backup, one of their prime backups. And then to hear Nick Saban talk about him.
He raves about him, his work ethic, the way he handles himself. There are no red flags with Quinnon Williams in terms of the way he works, the way he loves football. Uh, there's just he seems like the complete package, almost too good to be true. If you're looking for a defensive tackle prospect, you could make an easy case he's the best defensive tackle prospect we've seen since in Dominican Sue. And that's pretty good company, you know. And
that and that's that size guy. Maybe right, maybe hear Donald exactly yea of the size of the two nine pound, three hundred pound man. Obviously, Aaron Donald's grown into the best defensive player in football. But in terms of as a prospect and the way we viewed these guys, he's up there in that suit territory. I'll tell you what though, Man, this guy super disruptive. The way he plays. It's just up the field. And if he does get up the field.
I really like Dane how he retraces his steps. You know, the ball goes inside of him. He's up the field and now he sees it and then now he's he's going back instead of allowing it to be like a four or five yard game. All of a sudden, it's no game because he's up the field and now he's back down the stem right there. He'll sniff out screens and stuff like that. He plays outside the tackle box. I love how he can extend on the blocker and
control beats double teams. Dane's got him absolutely right. I love the fact that the lateral Julie, the way he finds the football. This guy's got some rare, rare traits to him. So great pick. Dane was right. Make the best pick, take the best player. That's what they did. We could again, they wanted out of there. They couldn't find a trade partner. So you know your backup plans, Quinnon Williams, all right, not a bad backup plan, all right.
The Oakland Raiders Dave Hellman's team. This is where these are buttles too. By the way, we love the Raider guys here, like we're big fans, buddies. We got friends that work there. They're they're a historic like this is my pet cat franchise, right, and you'd be good there in Vegas with those cats. Here's the thing. I want him to do something nuts. I want them to be my agent of chaos. But you want him to take as Haskins about a trade and well what what what?
Watch what they do is they're gonna which it's funny because my pet Cat franchise is gonna wind up drafting my pet cat player. Yeah, there you go, White, Yeah, here we go. The Raiders needs if we look at him, defensive end, tight end, guard, tackle or kind of what we're thinking right now with the with the Oakland Raiders coming in, they could go in a lot of different directions. I mean, this is a you know, I think that
they need. If you talk to their guys, I think they wanted a chance that I think they wanted a chance at Kyler Murray. I think they were kind of they wanted that chance. But then you know it goes away. So now, uh, Dane, you have any thought about again, could this be? Uh you know, could this be? Is it too early? It's too early for Sweat? Is it too early for all? I mean, I mean, Alan's been kind of a guy that people have talked about here.
But it's weird, but they haven't shown any interest in Alan, you know, like, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I didn't want to say his name because I didn't get the feeling that they were really you know, you know, no, they need a pass rusher there. They were dead last last year in sacks. I mean arden Key is our top pass rusher, and I mean he had all of one sack last year. And an agent thing, right, the Joel Siegel thing, it's it's it's not a lie. That's
not a lie. It's it's something that to consider. It's it doesn't disqualify at Oliver Josh Allen, but it's something to consider here right, well, that we were waiting again
for the Raiders here patiently. Uh. Great point by Dane Brugler. Uh, you know that that that that the Raiders or there's a couple of guys on this in this on this draft, back to back with Oliver being the guy as you said, and then Allen as being a guy represented by Joel Siegel, and they had problems, they had problems with that with the contract negotiations. So where does that leave him, well,
not here and not hearing a ton of answers. See I gave him Devin White my mock, you know, I think because he just fits exactly what Gridden wants exactly what Mayk would want, but is see the impact player that you want with a fourth overall? Okay, do they talked about this car right now? You talked about you talked about Rosen getting traded if in fact that they take Haskins here, Yes, who Now we got another quarterback
that's a twenty five million dollars year a quarterback. Now we're on the phone with the Miami Dolphins, and you're willing to give away Derek Carr for a little bit more or for a little bit less than what Rosen would would take because again you mentioned the contract. That's a big part of this. Yeah. But well, I mean Derek Carr's a little bit more proven than Josh Rosen, right, proven, But there's a reason there. They would be upgrading guys
are trashing these quarterbacks. I don't know what to do with this whole. Like, we'll see, Yeah, we'll see. If they go that direction, they might keep carring you know, be believers for another year. But um, this is going to be a fascinating pick. I love it. Yeah, well the pick is in. We're waiting for the commissioner to go to the podium. Seems like they're getting a little bit faster. It took them six months for the first pick,
and they've gotten a little bit. I think there was some I think there was some mechanical issue shoes with what was going on with uh with that with the pick there and stuff like that. So, uh, you know it's uh for some Yeah, so we're kind of moving along right now here. We'll see who, in fact the Raiders do take um again. I'm just kind of waiting for the I'm waiting for the league to tell us it would not be a shock of it as a surprise pick. You know, it's just someone we're not talking about.
Just Grudon doesn't care, Maya doesn't care. Then we talked about rushers. Then okay, you saying somebody like like Farrell, somebody like that. I got Farrell Burns, Alan Sweat. I say that Burns is who they like. They like Burns a lot. I don't know if they'd take them here, but ideally they'd like to trade back and find a way to get Brian Burns on their football team, so that that would drive me nuts. I don't know if they take them here. Brian brought us his third round pick,
Brian Burns. Yes, commissioners at the podium. Here we go, let's see who the Oakland Raiders pick. Areas. The commissioner shouts out to Eddie and Walks and Kyle and all those great guys who are gonna document this guy. In the twenty nineteen Nabel Drift, the Oakland Raiders selected Cleveland Pharrell. They got weird love it? I love it? What did I just say? A surprise pick one of these pass
rushers you mentioned Farrell? Yeah, they got weird with I was just trying to find a guy that was Can you love it because it's weird or do you love it because it's a good pick? I love it because it's weird. Okay, I mean that's see, That's what I wanted. But I wanted Kyler Murray. I don't know about this. Is this a reach Dane? Yeah? I mean for me is but you're getting a productive player who understands the art of pass rush. He's not a premier athlete by
any means, but watching in the National title game is Jonah. Yeah, Jodah Williams had a handful with this cat and and in typical Raider fashion, if al Davis was alive, that's probably the game he would be watching over and over and over again about to Cleveland Ferrell and look at this guy, Yeah, look like the corner. Yeah look. But but I think we all kind of agree that this is a little bit of a reach for for the Raiders.
And and you know, and to Dane's theory, to Dane's theory, they went away from some guys that probably are better players and it and it might had to have done at Ben because of the agent stuff. They went away from Lord. I hope, Yeah, that can't be true. I just I think I think he I absolutely believe that he is onto something here. And I'm fascinated to go to go back and and one day asked John Gruden
if really that was the case. Negotiations aren't even a part of an NFL career really until you're in these these guys. These guys hold a grudge, these I trust me, I know those guys. They hold a grudge. And with Farrell, you know, then I just like to spite your team to you know. Yeah, Yeah, that's a Rador way. It's the absolute Rador way. It is, yes, why not? And you know, with Farrell, though, I think the best movie he had was The arm Over stuff I think that
was like to free himself. I thought there were times he could use his hands be pretty good. He's really good when he could play on the move and use his hands, use that arm over. You know, he could finish when he gets in position. I thought he played with better overall power against Alabama. That's the thing we were talking about right there. But I'd like to see
him play with more of a burst, you know. That's where I was really kind of like, he gets a little stuck and then when he has a chance though, when he frees himself, you don't see him really really totally close. And that's that that was a little bit of a concern. They use him on stunts and twists, they try and move him around. He could close down on the edge from the line. But man, I'll tell you what, there's some other defensive ends and edge rushers
that I would have taken over this guy. But that's again the typical raider type. Keep everybody on their edge. They kept their draft board very very quiet, and they got a guy here from Clemson, the national champions. I've got this awesome resource from Dane Brugler that he so kindly provided me that says that there are five other pass rushers that are better than him, and four of them were still available when this guy came off the board.
So well, Saider's gonna raider, man, Raider's gonna raider. Yeah. Again, I love it because they stuck to their board and they took who they thought was the next best pass rusher. And look, Farrell was. You know, forty four career starts at Clempson, right, a big sample size, fifty tackles for loss over that span. He has a production. A guy that we haven't seen a full workout for him. He had the turf toe and it wasn't full workout the combine, so there's some stuff there. He wasn't going to test
off the charts, we know that. But again, throw on the national title game, watch him use that length again. A guy that understands how to similar to Bosa and ways and in terms of his understanding of how to set up his rush, break down the blocker, and win with rhythm. So again, not that twitchy edge rusher, not the type of athlete that Josh Allen from Kentucky is, but probably the more polish pass rusher. That's what the
Raiders are betting up. Yeah, This is where Dane brought up the injury stuff, the right turf toe, and the trainers I talked to medical staff people around the league said they didn't think that was an issue him. But to a man, they said, hey, wish he'd have worked out more. Wish he would have you know, they never they never got to see him, really, And Dane brought that up as he as he opened his a little
scounding report for you there. The trainers were around the league were like going, Hey, we just never got to see if the turf toe. We don't think it's a problem, but we'd like to have seen him work out a little more. And so the but the Raiders felt good enough about him. He is their pick at one four. That puts the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on the clock. And this will be interesting. Josh Allen Devin White. Which way
do they go? If that's the two players they're picking between, which, well, real quick, you want to know who's ruling college football right now? Just look at the top four picks in this year's draft pretty much says it all go. But
and you know, I don't know, but Devin White. Devin White seems like he's he has been mocked to Tampa so consistently by so many people, and Cleveland Farrell just proved what you smock drafts are like, you can never know get that one right, did you, Brugler Cleveland Farrell, Yeah, no, I'm three for four. But every year, every year, I love you to death. Every year, doesn't it seem like there's a handful of guys where they're just penciled in
at that slot and it's right. It's not always right, but yeah, and that's that's just a vibe I get about. Devin White. Doesn't mean I'm right. Well, here's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers needs as we look at him right now, outside linebacker, inside defensive lineman, tackle, potentially right there, a wide receiver and an offensive tackle and a side linebacker. So those are kind of the needs right now that we're we're thinking about for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers man
Alan does Allan make sense here for them? I mean they brought him in on a visitor switching exact Good job, David noticing that they're switching to a three four defense and they need rushers right now. They're outside rushers are Jason Pierre Paul and the free agent they got from the Broncos. Yeah, shakkill Barrett. Yeah, so you know they need an upgrade on and as they moved to that three four defense and Josh Allen, Yeah, it would be
a perfect fit. They still have Noah Spense, which I feel like I probably was wrong about Noah Spence, but yeah, you're you're right, Dane. They don't have they don't have anybody that really can put a lot of pressure. I mean, Jason Pierre Paul went down there with the Dallas played them late in the season, and he did a really nice job. I was you know, it looked like the Jason Pierre Paul of old and it kind of found the Fountain youth there in Tampa. So let's see if
he can fact and do it again. All right, it looks like the picks in. We're still waiting for the commissioner to make his way to the podium. This will be pick one five. Right now, they are showing the NFL network is showing the Buccaneers war room. It looks like everybody's kind of, uh, just kind of waiting around, hands in pockets. Where's the ship? Yeah, where's the ship? They had to do the how to do them hire the Cannons exactly. They ought to have the draft like
their war room ought to be on the ship. That would that would be awesome, incredible. And this is Bruce arians first year, well, he took one year off, went from Arizona. Now is that Tampa. It looks like that Commissioner Goodell is making his way to the podium. So let's see who the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have selected the draft to throughout the draft. So let's send things up to the commissioner to finish up the top five. As the Giants are already ninety seconds into their pick on
the clock, four Tampa Bays pick. I'm joined by k See Reynolds. But make a wish kid and a huge Buccaneers fan. Casey's he's been fighting cancer and tonight his wish is to be granted to announce the opportunity to be granted to announce the Buccaneer's first round pick. Love the Boatie young Man. Wish gives Casey the physical and emotional strength to face any challenges that come his way. Okay, Casey,
how's the time? With the fifth pick in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the Temper Bay Buccaneers select Devin Why here you go? He called it, go Tigers, and I think if you're the Giants, you're maybe pumping your fists. Josh Allen falls in your laps here. Yeah, how about that? That's pretty amazing. David Hellman scouting report on Devin Why please listen? He's being picked in the top five, So you don't, I mean trust that he's a good player. But more than anything else, this dude is a locker
room changer. Reminds me a lot of Jamal Adams out of the same out of LSU, obviously a couple of years ago. He is the alpha and the omega. He is the accountable workhorse, like not going to take a day off. Loves football more than life itself. I think the only other thing he loves is riding his horse. He's a culture changer. And on top of that, he is a ridiculously athletic, hair on fire, flying to the ball, playmaker, you know, even for a linebacker like he seems to
always be around the ball. Great at stripping. Dane said it this morning, He's probably the best blitzing linebacker in this class. But like I said, I mean, you're being picked in the top ten. You don't need me to tell you that he's talented, but he is a culture changing player. And with Kwan Alexander, another LSU tiger off the San Francisco, I completely get why they why they
want to add him to their defense. Yeah. I mean this guy, I really and I know you and I being alum of the school where I mean he is. He is rare when it comes to uh, the being in the locker room, like he talked about, the traits, all those things with him, It's just is so top shelf with him. I just I loved watching him play at oshow. You know there were time. I mean, this guy creates turnovers. He creates havocs. You know you'll see him. He rips the ball out of guy's hands. He's always
in position. He can close ground. And when your ability to make to create turnovers is because your ability to close ground quickly and finish. And I think that you know, he's does a great job of locating the football. He will move along the line of scrimmage until he gets there and then he'll attack. And that's that's the way I love him. I've always seen him playing well. They use him in coverage. He can play outside on the
covers man, he could drop in the zone. You know, he's these guys that ever comes off the field, read and react type of a player. And you could tell by the way he covers that he understands his responsibility. And I think that's a really really key here in the National Football League. Did you have a guy that doesn't make mistakes? And he was one of the best to ever wear that purple and gold, and so Tampa
back Buccaneers are really lucky to have a kid like this. Yep, there are no question and I think you guys summed it up perfectly. And he's he can be the difference maker. He can be the tempo setter. And that's exactly what you're looking for in defense for the Tampa Bay ball because they move make that move to the three four. I worry about taking an off ball linebacker that early when he's not a proven coverage player. Yeah, that would
worry me a little bit. That's why Devin Bush is a higher rated linebacker and for me, but I understand why they did it because this guy is just he's all football, all the time, and that's something that you want to add to your locker room. That's and yeah, I love Devin White clearly, like he went to LSU. You get it. But I've said it before, like I wonder the value of a peer off ball linebacker in the top five, like much like running back. Can I'm
taking a guard? Yeah, I mean, I'm just okay, okay, I'm not trying to bust on it. I'm just saying though in it. But there's a lot of things in this drafts, these drafts I don't understand anymore. But I'm just about taking good football players. You're right. But my point, and you're right, you're right. I mean, Quentin Nelson, that's a great point, But you're still in the in the past happy NFL where the physical aspect and the tone
setting aspect of it is getting further and further removed. Yeah, I think can you make Can he make enough plays to make it worth it? Yeah? I think he can. I think he can. And I respect with Dane saying about the carriage. I saw a guy I felt like they can carry. I saw a guy when the when the ball's in front of him and he's driving and he's tackling, and he's violent, and he's not gonna I mean, I saw a guy that can do that. So I'm maybe I'm a little bit more open to him being
on the field and all that. But I'm also learning a lot about this NFL. Now there's things that I never believed. I never believe I would see a quarterback as short as Kyler Murray get picked first. Overall, it's true, you know, I never and that happened. When when you go all the way back, go back to to to the guy in Cleveland, Baker Mayfield. That was another one.
You know, I hate to compare him to a Hall of Famer, but Devin will be every bit of the tone setter and attitude guy that Derek Brooks was for that defense. That's that's what you're hoping for, which if you're bucking, if you're Derrek Brooks is a quality human being, a captain, a tough guy. You talked to Rod Miranelli about him, he lights up. I guarantee you Devin White will have that whole locker room's respect in about fifteen minutes. Yeah, So okay, Yeah, there we go, giants tron the clock
and now they're gonna make a pick. Here we go and the two thousand nineteen NFL drafts, the New York Giants select Daniel Jones, and we thought the Raiders were going to be the team to make the surprise. Dan Jones kind of looked like a lawyer, Denny. I'm a nice looking kid, Daniel Jones. He is the quarterback, David Hellman, did you think that that? Okay, we talked about this, we talked about we talked did we did we talk about No? No, no, no, no. Where we talked about
this was the David Cutcliffe connection. Yeah, this is where we talked about about. Okay, the Eli Manning, the Peyton Mannings, the Giants, the history with Eli Manning. You know, they they knew about this kid. They knew from David Cutcliffe. You know, maybe they didn't ask Eli Manning about him. But David Cutcliffe, if you start talking about the traits that they like in Eli Manning, I think I think Daniel Jones has those kinds of traits. Am I wrong
about that? There? Dame burn And you see the Manning mannerisms. I mean you see that he watched You could tell he's watched a lot of tape of Mannings. You could tell David Cutcliffe's cut up reels have been a lot of stuff to deal with. The Mannings. You could tell by the way he plays one of the few quarterbacks by the way that plays underneath center that you can see. You can see play that way right, and you know it's a natural fit. I think with his connection with
Eli Manning. Uh, you know it's he's gonna be the quarterback and waiting. It's a good situation for him. Is he gonna live up to being the sixth overall pick in the draft? I don't know, Dane. Remind me again when you watched your first bit of twenty nineteen tape a Memorial Day last year, Mammy? And when did you watch Daniel jonesp for the first time over the summer? Okay, I had a second round great on him over the summer.
I've I've flipped through a little bit of tape. So I'm gonna you are the expert, and I'm I'm the layman here and I'm gonna just spit a hot take at you. Okay, this guy played for Duke. I understand like it is. It is not a It is not a Power five program to be reckoned with a lot of guys that are never gonna sniff the next level of football on that team. At the same time, if he is the number six pick in this draft, should he have not at some point elevated that team beyond
what they were? That's always say that's what you were. That's a that's a tough question to answer. I mean maybe maybe the players around him too. I mean, you know, it'd all be terrible. Maybe they're all I'm sorry I didn't listen to you that much on that. I was, I was, But you think about Duke and forever Duke was. I mean, under Steve Spurr, they were, They've been making bowls reliably. That's what I'm saying. It's the Music City Bowl, it's the Champ's Bowl. It's it's it's not. It's not.
We aren't. They aren't Harvard. Yeah, like they got they got players, they go to bowls, But why why Why wasn't Why weren't they better? If this guy is a top ten pick, who else can you say about that? At quarterback in this draft? Is there anybody else you can say? In the Elevators team, Yeah, Dwayne Haskins had his team one bad game against Purdue away from the playoff. Murray made it to the playoff. I feel the same way. I feel the same way about Locke. To be fair, okay,
he's not getting drafted sixth overall. Yeah, I wouldn't draft threw Lock in the first round. See this is this is where, this is where that influenced this. I swear this is this is coaches. This is this head coach telling an organization. And trust me, we got in trouble with this at the Cowboys in those early two thousands when we were awful at drafting. We listened to too many quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators to tell us that, oh no, this guy is good, this guy is this,
this guy's this. It always got us in trouble. And I'm not saying that we had a we had a kill to have a guy like Daniel Jones on our roster. But I just feel like though that man, this one to me is reach it will well on our board, on our one oh five three board, Murray Haskins Jones we have in the second round, though we have in the second round, the top of the second round. But yeah, as you want to is it to reach it? But
all it takes is one? You know me? Am? I not always happy to eat crow I don't like to tend like I'm the expert, but this just to me reeks of a team falling in love with measurables and traits and all that good stuff. Oh, the Giants are size speed team that the Giants have had a history with George Young and Parcels. They gettleman, he's from that program more than anything else. I want to see a quarterback like lift his team around him. Yeah, I'm not convinced.
I'm so not convinced. Which how quick does this kid play? How quick? Next year? You think? So? D you try to lie there out there on a farewell tour knowing that Daniel Jones will be your guy? Very similar, very similar to the Mahomes Mahomes. Okay, Smith thing, let's get to Jacksonville. They're on the clock now, Dane, who are you thinking about here at Jacksonville? You know? Is it could be a rusher some type of maybe you know, we still got Alan in this mix. I mean he
is not he has not gone anywhere. Let's see who where the Jaguars wide receiver, tight end, offensive tackle, guard, edge rusher. That's like a that's a you know, they're talking about edge rusher took a big hit when Fowler was traded. They don't currently have a player to put on the edge to go in their rush package since Campbell and Bryant are better inside. So that's that's kind of where you're you're thinking maybe a team I mentioned
it as like one of their fourth needs. But wide receiver, tied end, guard, tackled, mean, well, a lot of us have talked about offensive linemen here. It's all about helping their quarterback. They invested in the quarterback, right, Nick Foles, right, so it's all about helping him. And that could be an offensive lineman. That could be TJ. Hawkins in the tight end, you know, that could be Uh, they could go defense if they want to upgrade the pass rushing.
They're they're getting older on defense. That some of those contracts are a little daunting. Okay, the commissioners at the podium, here we go draft. The Jacksonville Jaguards selected Josh Allen defensive. So Josh Allen a little bit of a slide for him, don't you think, Dane from Josh Allen, I mean, it kind of kind of all hadn't projected. Maybe, uh, I know it's smind him and you know it potentially a top four player, top three player maybe right, and he
played the right position. He was productive in college football's best conference. But there he's not that Von Miller rusher. He's not that uh you know, there's holes in his game that you kind of worry about, so you know, you understand it absolutely. But at this point in the in the top ten, the Jaguars feel like they're getting a pretty good pas rusher they can add to the mix. Again, your your edge rushers in Gockway is probably the best
best true edge rusher in um. You add him to the minute, Josh Allen to the mix, and you know, you just got better on defense. I wonder if this is a situation where they never expected him to get there and yeah, and they just took the best player on the board. Probably they're another team. It had been so widely accepted that they wanted an offensive town. Yeah, that's what I That's what I kept I kipt, but
kept locking him to the town. Nobody, nobody in the world thought Josh Allen would still be here at seven. I mean, I'm sure somebody did, but it wasn't a long list. By the way, my Joel Siegel connection with the raid those shot the heck uh, Joel Siegel represents Cleveland Farrell. Who so they just liked him that much? Is so that at all? Over the Yeah, that doesn't play it go into effect? Here? Did you did you start digging on that one? Did you go see? No? No?
I tweeted it and people reminded me that Joel Siegel was the agent for Cleveland Farrell. I forgot about that, so that I never anticipated Cleveland Farrell with that fourth pick. And here I'm like, I'm maybe I shouldn't check. Yeah, I was thinking of the top. But maybe it's an interesting theory and it sounds like something Narraiders would do, because okay, if that's the case, then they didn't take the best They didn't take the best rusher, then did they?
Is anybody surprised that Gruden and Mayock had a wildly different idea? Oh no, no, again, it's not a surprise. It's yeah, they're doing they're following their board. But it is surprising they needed to get all the scouts out. We don't want anybody knowing. We don't anybody trading up the three to get Steel Ferrell from them. We don't know it. We won't want anybody knowing that we're going to take the sixth best pass rush fourth overall. That's
what I'm saying. If they were not, if they're not interested in, if they if the theory, if the theory was blown away, they didn't take the best guy. Maybe to them, they took the best guy, maybe not to us. So that's the beauty of its ban will in three years. We will know in three years. Okay, Detroit Lions are on the clock. There's about four minutes and forty five seconds left in their pick. We're looking at the Lions needs a defense assume corner tight end, safety and guard
Dane Brugler or David Hellman. Let me ask you, David Helman, is this where we see another tight end go for the Detroit Lions. It seemed like that Eric Ebron was drafted just a few years ago. The word around town is that the Lions have also been trying to get out of this. But maybe it's not as trade happy at first round as we thought it would be. Um, I there was gonna be some chaos, yeah, and we not. Yeah, And I haven't seen the Collians sound like they're gonna
hang in and make this pick. I mean t J. Hockinson's got to be like one of your five favorite players in this draft, right if you look at if you look at just position just okay, actually we take position out of it. Yeah, he's one of the top He would be one of the top ten players just regardless of position. Am I right about that day? Yeah, it's easy to be terrified of tight end because of what happened to you with Eric Ebron, But you know, you can't. You can't judge players that come out of
the same school because of what happened before. You can't. You know, just because Eric Ebron didn't work out for you doesn't mean that this is a bad idea. I mean, Matt Stafford, what you got? You got Galladay? You got uh yeah, you got on that right there, Like yeah, like give him some weapons to work with. I mean, he's your best chance of competing. Yeah, you got Marvin Jones. That's right, Marvin Jones. Marvin Jones and Galladay. You're talking
about tight ends. There are Jesse James and uh Michael Roberts. Really that's kind of where they got right now. I know Matt Patricia's mister defense, But like that that team will be as relevant as Matt Stafford can make them, So I want to help him. They drafted an offensive lineman in the first round last year. I'm sure that you could probably use another one if I had to guess, But like, yeah, I'm and well t J. Hockenson can block. I'm on board with that. Well, and they made an
attempt to go get Grounk classed off season. Yeah, you know, And so this is Hawkinson is the closest thing to a Gronk prospect in this draft in terms of his ability to block, be a threat down the seam, create after the catch. So I think tight end would certainly make sense. I mean you mentioned offensive line. If they went Joe and Williams here, that would make some sense. Just guy, I think like tackler or guard, I think
they're a little bummed. Maybe Josh Allen's not there. I think that would have been a natural fit at Oliver still on the board. I think the Buffalo would love if Oliver falls with them at nine. But how about this for a little nugget here, and Quinn's the general manager. Quinn's first three seasons as a GM, the Lions had never brought into player. They ended up selecting in the first round of the NFL Draft for a top thirty visit, and as I check, as I check their visits right now,
they did not bring in Hockinson. Why why? Hawkinson's is one of those guys where I don't think you know a fan if they brought in If the tight ends they brought in, no a fan Dawson, Knox, Drew Sample, Irv Smith and Sternburger. Hawkins is one of those guys I don't think you need to bring in. You can get everything you need the combine, and you feel confident about him. Why don't you to bring him in? That's
a good little nugget though, Huh, don't you? I sure would like to spend some quality time with a guy I'm gonna give twenty million dollars to they don't want to tip that you like at the end, and it's easy. They fought in all the other top tight ends. Here we go, commissiers at the podium, Hold that thought there, David Helmet. Yeah, we're in the two nineteen NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions TJ. Hockinson. They got four years in a row. Now, Well, and what I was gonna say
is we forget about this with the Cowboys all the time. Yeah, thirty visits are important. There's no limit on what you can go out and do in your spare time, Like he can come to your facility once, you can go to him how whomever many times you want, right, I mean, they could have Matt Patricia could have been living in Iowa City, Iowa, last three months for all I know.
So maybe that is interesting. Maybe you don't want to tip people off to what you're gonna do, David, You want to give a little bit more thought about this player. Have you seen this player? You've known enough about TJ. Howkinson is one of those guys that, like, if you follow the draft and you follow college football, you've known about him for a while now. I remember he popped up on my radar. I want to say he was playing Minnesota and Dane was three, or maybe it was Illinois.
Dane was tweeting out clips of him just blocking guys into by the cheerleaders, just absolutely demolishing people's souls. Yeah, I think that was the exact phrase. Yeah, so you see that, and you know, you know he was on my radar before the Cowboys got rid of their first round pick. Let's put it that way, and you're like, oh, okay, yeah, this is pretty intrigued. So you're thinking at twenty seven the Cowboys thinking, well, we didn't even know. We were
thinking at pick thirteen thirteen the Cowboys draft eat. So I mean he's he's a stud man. He can do it all. Yeah, and that's that's rare in this day and age when a tight end can do it all right off the bat. This guy is you talk about in line blocker. This guy is crazy in line blocker. He gets some serious push in the running game. He's
a finisher. You could pin his man pancake blocker. If they gave stickers on the back of their helmet, I don't think they do this, and iway they put that, uh you know America for farmers sticker on their helmet, which they should, and but this guy would have a ton of stickers on his helmet for the pancakes. Blocks. The things that he his best trade and I think as a blocker's his ability to sustain. He just does not give up. As a blocker, I called him abusive
the way he plays. He could block defensive ends, linebackers, he could, you know, but when you watch him catch the ball down the field. This guy will draw a sure of double coverage because he can get down the field. He's got a nice release off the ball, He's got some separation to him, sideline awareness plays, and balanced soft hands. This guy can do a lot of things for you
as a tied end. Like I said, the blocking is really the number one thing, but man, he can he when he has to catch the ball down the field, he can sure do that as well. Yeah, this is gonna piss you off. Brand. He's a guy that I am going to gun for in my fantasy football drafts, Are you really? Yeah? Because he's ready to go, and he's got a good quarterback and you know, for the same reasons that Eric Ebron was appealing when he was coming out, which hopefully this time it will work out better.
Are we surprised eight picks, no trades? Yes, stunned. Yeah, I'm feel like I feel like an oversold Chaos So, I mean, you know, and maybe I need to do a movie review of some Chaos movie or something, because I feel like we're we thought about and maybe it had a lot to do Maybe this had a lot to do with that All of a sudden, with Ferrell being picked. You know, people are just like, whoa, whoa wait,
that guy's still on the board. That's all it takes is that one picked effect yeah, and everybody's like, WHOA, whoa wait, we got a little bit better guy on that board now. The Jaguars, for sure, I would be I mean, I just feel like the Jags probably had an offensive tackle in their sights and then bye bye, yeah Josh Allen the I'm gonna remind everybody here, guys are A coverage of the two thousand and nineteen NFL
Draft is brought you by Miller Ltte. Miller Ltte is the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys, and they've been the only beer of the Draft show. We appreciate all the things that they do for us. David Hellman, fire me some team needs of the Buffalo Bills. They're on the clock. The Buffalo Bills top needs. Dan Dane listened at this morning line help both sides, offensive tackle, defensive
defensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback. I bet they're they might be bummed about t J. Hockenson because tight end is another one. They let Charles Clay go this year. Um, I think they're excited to see you at Oliver still there? That is wolf Yeah. Oh um, Kyle Williams shout out LSU Tigers retire tis. Yeah, absolutely. I think they really wanted to upgrade on their front. They really want offensive or defensive. Yeah, where there's a tackle many they do
Dillard John Williams. We don't have an offensive lineman off the board, right. That's I thought Jacksonville was going to be the team. Yeah, so did I And so now okay, they have their choice. They go offensive line, defensive line. Still think at Oliver at number nine, that is, he could be that difference maker, which is it just goes to show. As recently as this morning and or last week, people were like, everybody thinks at Oliver is gonna last
all the way to fifteen. Huh, that guy's going top five, Like people were saying Oakland could take them or maybe even the Jets, sir. And the thing with it, I know for a fact that Atlanta is a team that if Holford got to them it Oh yeah, I'm surprised they didn't trade up to eight. Yeah you had that in your mock, didn't you? Did you have Atlanta trying to get up to one of them I had the end. I had Washington going up to eight to get Haskins.
But now with the Giants no longer and play for a quarterback, the Redskins might be thinking, we don't have to trade up to get Haskins. Yeah, what about the Broncos? Though I don't think the Broncos was taking a quarterback? Yeah, I mean, you might be right, but that's the that's the other logical. Denver in Cincinnati, well, Denver, Cincinnati in Miami all seem like long shots, but they all could do it or possible. Sure, that's interesting. We got Yeah,
we got the podium. Let's go kid. With the ninth in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bill's selected Ed Oliver defensive tackle. That's a win. Yeah, Dane Burger talked, Dane, Uh, I'll go, I'll go. How about the tucko? David Helmet again, talk to me about Ed Oliver a little bit. My One of my favorite jokes in draft Twitter is that they've been talking about Ed Oliver as an off the
ball defensive tackle because he's that absurdly athletic. Who did you You said the other day, Dane that he had a faster three cone time than like somebody like DK Metcalf or Yeah, he's he he's a freak. He's a freak athlete. Um And the guy that he gets compared to is Aaron Donald, which obviously is going to be unfair because that's the highest paid defender in football for a reason. But he's got that type of athleticism, he's
got that ability to penetrate. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have been surprised if he was the top five pick. His three cone was better than DK Metcalf, It was better than Riley Ridley. He was better than j Jfsaga white Side, quite a few of these wide receivers We've been talking. We've been talking about this kid as a possible top three pick for two three years now, since he was a true freshman in Houston. And correct me if I'm like Houston used him kind of stupidly last year.
They were playing him at nose, Like, No, I don't think that's I can only imagine what Rod Marinelli would have done with this guy, which obviously that was Rod. It's not worth fantasizing about three technique all day. He started comparing him to the Warren SAPs and guys like that, and so that that Rod was always very honest about. This guy had a little bit of kind of a little bit of an altercation with the coach right though, about a jacket on the sidelines and all that stuff.
That was just kind of a blown up thing. Yeah, well he's still he's still a young kid. He's immature. I mean he he's a guy who grew up in Houston, played at Houston. Like he's you know, still immaturance of areas. But it's not like a character concerned, but you're really worried about, you know, trusting him away from the facility getting in fights. It's not that he just he hasn't growing up to do. But mostly these twenty one year
olds do bills. Maffia is gonna love this guy. And I just want to remind you though, by the way, you know they with no first round pick, you know, we do have the ability to go into the Cowboys war room just nothing going on there. Will they kind of control when we can go in and out of that room. So again that's a feature that we're gonna have all weekend. You're seeing a lot of me and Dane Brugler and David Hellman kick Garrison and the guys are doing a great job of putting up a bunch
of highlights. You've got the tracker down below. Make sure you're part of that with the cow the hashtag Cowboys Draft, you know that way we could see your comments again. We got the graphics of what the round, the team and the team it's on deck with the picks. We're kind of flying through these things right now a little bit. I'm really happy about the direction the things going. Just a guest, Brian, Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to dear No, not at all. Sean McDermott, head coach of the Bills,
longtime defensive coach. Yeah, defensive coordinator of the Panthers, teams that drafted Kawan Short Yeah, Star Latulalay. Yeah, Luke Keikley got him to a Super Bowl with the help of that defense. I bet he's going to find a use for for at Oliver. I think they'll be just fine. Yeah and that and that. I'm a big fan of at Oliver. I'm glad that he got that opportunity again. That war room cam again at the Ford Center. We'll get to that when they when they feel like they
need us to be nosy. Will be nosy, but just remember that's a that's the thing that we're gonna have all week as we are all weekend, as we work through this NFL draft. Okay, that means now that the Denver Broncos are on the clock. I'm looking at it right now. It's four thirty two. Their pick, David Hellman, can you fire me some Denver Bronco potential needs? You know I can, Brian, Yeah, there we go. Quarterback is obviously the much discussed one they've got. Seems like every
year they're talking about a quarterback at that place. Yeah, well they do have Flacco. So to Dane's point, they don't have to do it um receiver, offensive line, outside linebacker. Okay, they have to, Dame Burglar. It's got to be an offensive lineman here. Don't you think one of these these standout tackles? I think it's a purpose well for Devin Bush. Okay, so I think okay, my bad, good job, Sorry, listen, little bit better there. I saw Devin White go early.
Yeah five, Devin Bush is a better player than Devin White in my opinion. I think Devin Bush. I know, sorry, I'd got to jump across the board there myself, big ten guy. SEC guys. Sorry, but I think Devin Bush is a plug and play linebacker who can do everything. We said with Devin White copy paste Devin Bush. White's a little bigger than Bush, but for me, the instincts he can. He's a little more proven in coverage. I
think he'd be a great pick for for Denver here. Yeah, but we're talking about man at five eleven four, Right. I bet Thecinnati Bengals desperately hope that you're wrong, absolutely want that guy. Yeah, but what's the length? Yeah, between those two it's like an eighth of an inch off the line. I'm sorry, I'm you know you're right, You're not wrong. Come at the King, Brian, you better not make no no no, I mean yeah. Todd Davis is a linebacker. Josie Jewel, our guy, Josie Jewel from Iowa.
It was more of a let's be honest. He's a two down yeah, inside backer, bullshit worker outside. Yeah, you know, do everything type of player. Okay, we love Josie Jewel. That's a big do we do, big fan of j Jel. You to your point. Offensive line. They invested in the offensive line the off season um in free agency, so it's not as much of a need, but it is something they want to upgrade. Okay, I'm just kind of getting some whispers here, kick Garrison. Okay, Steelers down this
Devin Bush they coming up to get down. Okay, Yeah, the Steelers have made a move. We'll see exactly what it entails when we get the particulars. But now the Steelers are going to be on the clock here and they were going to make this selection. Uh, the Steelers, Dave, you have the Steelers in front of I mean, I know, Dave, Dane's talking about Devin Bush. Just want to make sure there's linerback, cornerback, all all linebackers o ight end or their big needs. Okay, yeah, so Devins fits that, Devin
Bush fits what they're trying to do here. The worst cup of secrets is their love for Devin Bush. Okay. Yeah, and so they they loved Murphy the corner too, was a guy that twenty so they kind of they talked about him as well. I know some people were mentioned about the Steelers that would be a pretty big shock of they traded up here to get Murphy. No, no, no,
at the time, it they pick at twenty. Sure, No, Devin Bush is the guy that they've wanted, and they initially thought maybe they could get him a twenty and then it became pretty apparent that's not happening. So if they Steelers do play with some shorter linebackers, there's no question they have They have not had that, you know, the tragic injury to Ryan Shazier, right, they have not had someone step up and fill those shoes. They Devin
Bush can be that guy. Okay, As we look at the Pittsburgh Steelers again, you're right, Uh, Mark Baron is there now, and then Evince Williams as an inside backer as well. Those are the starters that we see for the Steelers as they make this pick. Uh. Dave talked about there's offensive, there's offensive lineman. But I'm just saying, yeah, where where are these tackles going? Well, Joe Green is going to come to this potym and tell you who
the Steelers are gonna take. Kn't let's go there. The Denver Broadcos have traded the tenth pick to the Pittsburgh Steelers for Pittsburgh's pick. Please welcome back to the stage. Nineteen seventy nine, Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year, Hall of Famer and Steeler legend Joe Green frank Man. He hangs out here a lot. He does with the tenth pick in the tooth. I was a lateeen NFL draft, the Pittsburgh Steeler selecting Dens Get you out. You're on that all the way again. At Michigan's pro day, Yeah,
the Steeler sent everybody. The secretaries were there. Everybody was at Michigan secretaries evaluate. That's what I want to know. The GM, the head Kevin Yeah, everybody was there and it was Devin Busher. They wanted to see in. Devin Bush had a great Pro day. So it's again, you know, they Ryan Shazier tragic injury. This is their answer to that. This is the guy who can fill those shoes and be that defensive playmaker. And you talk about, yeah, the tragic,
tragic injury to Ryan Shazier. You know, Devin Bush, I talk about I talk about guys. I talk you know, I've been always saying about the height of the young man. But you know he overcomes a lot when you watch him play, and again, shorter guy hold his ground. He's got a nose for the football. I mean this guy will drop into throwing lanes. He deflects balls. He's an emotional player, plays well with his hands, but has to be careful not to get washed. There's times you see
him get hooked up a little bit, David. He needs to keep moving, but runs well closed as well. Good reactions can wrap up when you need him to sideline. The sideline player gets through the trash, fills those gaps. He's got some pop to his game. I like that about this young man, though, but has to do a better job of fighting that block pressure. And I think that the Steelers again, they've got a guy that's got to that kind of that ability to make plays, to
get to the football to finish. You gotta love guys like that, David. I'm going to I'm gonna steal this off of Twitter. I tweeted this out and somebody named Wingspan Whisperer came right back at me, and I think it's a good point. Is okay. Number one overall pick in this draft is a five ten quarterback. Number five overall pick is an off ball linebacker. Right then somebody trades up ten spots to number ten to draft another off ball linebacker. Speed matters, Yeah, and that's that mean,
that's a very that's a very fair point. This league is getting faster, and I mean, you're trying to combat these these rule changes and the speed of the game. You got to be fast. I guess I think that's I think that's a really good point. It's surprising, and maybe it shouldn't be, because the key is to be as fast as humanly pop. Okay, here are the particulars of this trade that was just made. The Denver Broncos trade one one, one ten to the Pittsburgh Steelers. The
Steelers in turn send back one twenty. They send a second round pick, which is two fifty two that now belongs to the Denver Broncos. So the Steelers send two fifty two to Denver, and then they send a third round selection in twenty twenty to move up to the rights to draft uh Devin Bush. So again and once one more time, the Steelers make this pick at ten, Denver gets back a they'll go to twenty now to pick, and they get fifty two and a third round pick
in twenty twenty. Underrated aspect of this pick, which it's not got anything to do with his on fieldability, but Devin Bush and the war room camp. Yeah, that's right. The war room cam at Ford Center is now up. They're given us a little bit of a view of what's going on here. They've determined there's Jason Garrett, he is sitting up. Let's see Jerry Jones. No, I don't know what walked out of the I wonder if Jerry,
Jerry and Stephen both are out of that room. Jason Garrett left to man the man the helm while the the the general manager, and the director player personnel are out of the room. Devin Bush is the guy that stomped on Michigan State's logo. I mean, the Steelers are mean and gritty, right, Like I love that, like that that guy should play in Pittsburgh. If you're a team in the AFC North, you're shoot, you know, like, yeah, the Steelers just got a lot better on defense. Yeah,
you know, especially the Bengals. The Bengals are iron. Devin Bush at eleven. Uh and now he goes off the board to one pick ahead of them. So h really interesting pick there. And the last time the Steelers moved up in the first round any nineteen eighty two, two thousand and three, still on four do they take oh open Roethlisberger thousand and three, twos and four okay, two three. They moved eleven spots four A defensive playmaker, Troy Palmo, Troy Paul. Oh, there you go. Good job. How do
you dig this stuff up? So that's why he's got the Beast. Yeah, by the way, check it is. If you still don't have a copy of the Beast, makes sure you're checking his u you can still get it. There's a couple more you'll need yourself a digital copy. Absolutely Beast. The Beast is great on day one, but it really shines on day Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly when it's okay again, we're checking in the war room at
the Ford Center. The general manager and the director player personnel are absent in that room, so maybe we have some dealings going on on the side. The Cincinnati Bengals are on the clock. I love the Bengals are one of my favorite teams. They're picks in right now. We're picking football players. Let's go commission. In the two nineteen NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jonah Williams. Here you go tackle out damn time. How about Joa Williams first
offensive Tackle Office board. First offensive linement off the board. Is that going to start or run? I think so um a little later and I think we thought would happen. But Jonah Williams is just he's rock solid. He should be the first offensive linement off the board. He is the top offensive lineman on my board at it's a top five pick. Yes, he will struggle with length at times, but he's so technically sound, he's so smart. He works at his craft. I think the Bengals just upgraded their
offensive line. Whether he plays tackle, whether he plays guard. I think he could play tackle, no problem. We'll see where the Bengals play him. But they just upgraded their offensive line, no question. David Hellman, Cincinnati has had a pretty history of drafting SEC offensive lineman. If you go back who to think God, the TV said they've drafted a guy in what ten years in a row from the sect about Well, I feel like I know the Bengals wanted a linebacker. They were I in both of
the Devins, so they're probably sad about that. But if you go back to the start of free agency, this was a fan base that was absolutely pissed because the Bengals resigned Bobby Hart to be their right tackle, and nobody felt good about that. Well, they probably feel a lot better right now because I'm gonna guess this guy is good enough to start from day one. He started every game in his career. It's twenty nine games that
he started at Alabama. So me personally, if you look at my draft board, I had Dillard over him, but they were really very close in my mind. So yeah, good for the Cincinnati Bengals. This puts the Green Bay Packers on the clock of right now. The Packers probably don't always have to pick up at this high level of the or this high area of the draft. But do you have the twelfth overall pick, David you have some needs for I'm sorry, Dan, Do you want to
say anymore thing about Jonah Williams? Are you good with that whole thing over there? The best offensivelement in the draft is the first offensive element drafted, So okay, I think the Bengals man a good pack There you go. He likes to finish, he plays on his feet, is a good puller. He has a feel how to find those guys and stay with him. He's a really patient block or two, doesn't get over extended or knocked off balance a second level really easy with this guy, so
can sit down on the defender. You're right, they got a really good offensive lineman here in Cincinnati. Okay, David the Green Bay Packers, well, you know, like you kind of have Dan. Do you find yourself having pet cat picks, like you just really want a guy to go somewhere. I wanted Hockinson in Green Bay. It would have been fun. Um tight end is one of them. They need, They need dbs, which seems weird. Basically they've been whiffing on
their dB picks. I think they feel good about JayR Alexander, but Kevin King really hasn't worked out ye injuries. Yeah, I fell in love with killing Kevin King. Demarrius Randall. Yeah, they had another guy that didn't really pan out. They still have the kid from Iowa, your guy last year, Jackson, Right, But so anyway, safety and cornerback needs, linebacker need and then again surprisingly wide receiver. I know Randall Cobb has gone, but I feel like they've drafted a receiver every year
for the last like three years. But there you go. Could this be where fant goes Dane? Sure, you can't rule that out. I mean they they need an impact tight end. And I mean Jimmy Graham, he's a shell of what he used to be. He's just not that impact tight end. Noah Fant can be. You know. You just you want to appease your quarterback. You want to help him score points, give him a weapon. I like, I would have no problem with no a fan here.
I you know in your head, no, no, no, Well I'm just smiling to myself about something, not what you said, but I'm smiling to myself. I'm looking at my board right now. You kind of and that's our fault, Like you fall into this media trap where you're like, well, you know the board says fans going to go between like fifteen and twenty five. Sure, nothing, but no, there's no rule that says he can't go twelve. And like I with Aaron Rodgers slinging that thing around, yeah, give
me that athletic freak playing tight end all day. Every I was thinking about it was so funny because you said Aaron Rodgers and I looked down on my thing and I saw Hashkin's name. You know, still there? Well, I'm still there. They brought in Locke for a thirty visit, so you know, they they've shown some interest in some of these quarterbacks. That's what I'm saying. It's very reminiscent of Brett farve And and he had a guy sit you know and all and farv Us thirty five years
old when they acted Aaron Rodgers was the intent? Was Aaron Rodgers slid down the board to them? Ted Thompson really didn't have an intent to take him, which I guarantee you that this is the same argument they had back then. But you have, for my money, the most talented quarterback in the world who is getting closer to the end of go help him. Sure, hell, I agree. I just went it was funny with Haskins, you know that could this could history be repeating itself. They've done
it before. But again, like you're talking, they were picking where that was twenty six Oh no, yeah, well they were way down the board, not twelve. Yeah, they were way down the board. There should be a guy who can help your team still on the board right now? Yeah, I agree, And it wouldn't shock me based on their previous history. What about off the offensive line that I was gonna go, Yeah, I mean, did the same Vein you're helping your quarterback. Dillard's there, JU want Taylor's there.
I mean, Taylor's a guy you can move inside if you want them to. It gives you probably a little more versatility, a little more power than Andre Dillard. Um. So yeah, I think offensive line certainly on in the cards here. Okay, so we're with the pick is in for the Packer and we will see there's I just it's funny because my eyes just immediately went to the quarterback.
It's just, you know, it's one of those things where you start thinking, Okay, who are some of the better player you know, I mean there's a there's a lot of great players in my opinions, first round players on this board still because they're only we're only twelve in. But who of the early of who of those guys? Well, let's go see what the commissioners. Let's let's get the commission. I was trying to do something here, but let's get the commission with the commissioner. They're kit in the two
thousand nineteen NFL draft. The Green Bay Packard select Michigan Packers aren't worried about that labor, No, not at all, not at all. Rashawn Gary. And to Dane's point, that was just made. This was one of those things where I and they and they noticed they named him as a linebacker right there, Rashawn Gary as linebacker. Uh. We kind of all thought that maybe I thought he would be a really good three technique, you know, not a defensive end, but if you wanted to play him inside plan.
But uh, I'm talking about and Dane brought it up, the injury, and I'm going back. He's got a labor um that needs to be fixed and it will likely, what I've told from several teams, will likely whear out. And it's very much similar to what uh, DeMarcus where I just again this is from just talking about injuries and stuff where where and Lawrence had the same condition and so this is something that he whether they might fix this thing. You know who is Dane. I'm sorry,
I don't need to put you on the spot. There was a there was a Clemson defensive lineman that went to Buffalo Lawson, Shack Lawson, Thank you, Shack Lawson. And what did they do? They Shack Lawson, had it, had it fixed, it fixed immediately exactly. And so so but there's people that say that that this this labor um needs to be fixed because if he doesn't, it's gonna wear out. And so keep an eye on that. And obviously the Packers, as you said, Dane didn't thin fit
too much of that. So and it's here we go. We're getting to the third thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, Does Haskins go Redskins aren't and a half the trade? Right? Does Haskins go to one of these spots? The Dolphins the Redskins at fifteen? That's gonna be interesting real quick. I mean, Brian, you've been saying since February that you think Gary's a three do is not? Mike? Mike Petton is a three four guy? Is he not? Yeah, you're saying as a linebacker.
They you know, on the on the thing they say defensive end, but then on the when he was announced there it said that he was a linebacker. That's why I used the term edge. He is an edge player. He's not a defensive end. He's not a he's a he's an edge rusher. That's how that's how you should use them. That's how they're gonna use him. He just doesn't strike me as being that like long, lean, three four guy am I wrong? I mean, you're talking about playing him at three technique? How can I thought it
had a change to do a thing. I thought he had a better chance of playing as the three because put him on the shoulder and let him get up the field. I see a guy that put him on the edge and let him rush. Okay, I mean I don't, I don't a problem. I mean, and that's how I think they're going to use him as a Did you say they set him announce them as a line a linebacker? Yeah?
I sure did. It's a good call. Yeah. Yeah, So that to me, I mean, I don't that that that's a that that's a surprise, a surprising move to me, especially again with some of the stuff that kind of felt like that they needed to do. Uh you know with that offensive line. You know that they that they go ahead and draft. Well, okay, did you do a skynering poor? I'm sorry, I was kind of doing about seventeen things right there. But did you do a little thumbnail on what you saw about him Dane at all?
Can you? Yeah? I mean I could cover it for you. Right. No, No, again, we've talked about the productions. Not there ten and a half sacks in his career. There are eight pass rushers in this class that have more just last season than
Gary's entire career. But again, you're drafting traits, and he has the athletic traits for a two hundred and eighty pounder that are just rare, and so the Packers are hoping they're going to bank on those traits and see if they can get an impact edge rusher yeah out of them and develop all those traits that he has. I think that you're absolutely right. I mean, I see a really a quick footed athlete here. The stop start quickness. That's why I kind of thought he could play inside
and can come off the ball. Maybe he can cover some ground from the back side as something I saw from him as well, you know. But the thing that the thing that I really liked about it was the lateral quickness in pursuit because I think he can run down some place on the backside. Maybe that's why the Packers think that they could play him as that linebacker. And so we'll see, we'll see, you know, with the range and the assignments and all that thing, I just
think that he would be a really good undertackle. I just I look at the measurables with him and kind of say, okay, if he's got quickness, if he can get off the ball plays, okay with his hands, can you do it quickly? Yeah, maybe that would be a better spot that you might be right though, Dane too, they're gonna, you know, put his hand down in nicol and let him rush some too. In this same stub packages when you go four man Franz, Yeah, yeah, you do a lot of things with them. Okay, the Miami
Dolphins are on the clock, David. You have a couple of needs for what the Dolphins potential Looking at the Miami Dolphins need a lot of stuff, man. Yeah, Oh, it's always fun trying to find this on my sheet. There we go, Um, offensive line, defensive line, quarterback, cornerback. Which quarterback is the one? I mean, they clearly don't have one. They got rid of Tannehill. Okay, they have Ryan Fitzpatrick, who ate too much birthday cake this offseason
according to himself. Yea, which again but again, like I feel a little bit more comfortable drafting Haskins than Drew Locke. Um, but I feel even more comfortable knowing that the Dolphins are not in a position to compete. They dealt Robert Quinn to Dallas. They know they're they're rebuilding, they're tearing that thing down, so get that guy later. In my opinion, rather than trying to make something happen right now with a quarterback who doesn't have any tools around him anyway,
do something. How about one of these tackles. How about do they try and help the quarterback next year? That's what I would do exactly. I mean, Jeffrey Simmons is possible here. I can't rule him. You were talking about that because he's the perfect that's the perfect pick for a tanking team, perfect pick. But I think to your point, yeah, offensive lineman Andre Dillard would be a great pick here. Um. I mean, they have a chance to upgrade in the trenches,
and I think that's what they're looking to do. They're staring completely away from this quarterback round. Let me let me ask you this thing, and I don't want to put you on the spot. Well, just second day, we're the thirteenth pick in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Christian Wilkins defensive Kristen Wilkins probably shouldn't be surprised that a defensive coach would want a defensive
guy to get things started. The second clumpson defensive lineman off the board here, Christian Wilkins is you're getting just a really solid football player. I don't think he has the high ceiling of some of these other players, but you know exactly what you're getting. He's an older guy and so the upside isn't as profound with him, but he's extremely smart. Won the Academic Heisman last year. He's
been productive over his career. He's flexible edge rusher or interior rusher where he can squeeze through gaps and disrupt with the backfield what's happening in the backfield. Again, I think he's a guy that can play the run. He can do a little bit of everything, and he's just not that high upside guy. But you feel good with what you're getting with Christian Wilkins. Yeah, I totally agree with everything that you've said about him. I'm a he's
always around the ball. That's that's one of the things that you you really you know, big athletic guy that can redirect chase, he can work down the line, he can disengage from blockers really quickly, that's something I like. He gets pushed in the middle, he can anchor down if he has to. He gets up the field where he has the power to hold a gap, plays square along the line of scrimmage, uses his hand to handle the low block. That's something Sometimes these defensive linemen have
trouble with him. Guys go down near their knees, they trouble, you know. They He stays active, uses his hands, continues down the line, can close down in the hole. He's got power this pastor pastors from excuse me, a lot of power involved there. So they use him on twist stunts, gets around the corner. So I feel like the Dolphins, you know, we were saying, okay, offense, defensive line. This guy's got a lot of really nice qualities about him. And Chris Grin those guys, I feel like they got
him a pretty good player there. This. Oh no, he went for the He went for the went to the chess bump on the commissioner, and the commissioner go, oh he got him back. Yeah, he went for the Sorry I have this, that's terrible radio if you're listening. But he went for the chess bump on the commissioner. Goodell and Commissioner Goodell didn't really know what was going on and kind of gave him a shoulder into the chest area,
head on a swivel. Commission. Yeah, but Christian Wilkins again fifty three tackles for loss, you know, for him, so I stop for him. Let me ask you all this and again you might not have an answer, and I apologize for that. You remember, Jalen Smith was drafted, didn't play a snap and had to recover from his knee injury,
and that affected his contract. Like next year he's heading for restricted free agency rather than unrestricted r He missed a whole like you know, they're they're not so to speak, they're penalizing him for not playing a year of his contract. Assuming Jeffrey Simmons is a first round pick, how would that affect him? Just an interesting thought. I mean, do you get all you get four cheap years out of him before you have to do the fifth year option, right?
I don't know. Yeah, I think there's something to see. I'm I'm I'm an admitted idiot when it comes to the salary cap and what how how the how you can manipulate years of service? I don't feel the least bit bad about not knowing that. I promise you'll ask somebody tonight after this draft and we'll have it tomorrow. Okay, start talking about this. It's something not a lot of times, A lot of people don't have those answers, right that you got to dig through. Oh no, some paperwork to
get answers to those questions. We'll figure it out. It's an interest. It's an interesting thought, though. I wonder how that affects his deal if he's a first round pick. Yeah, they're really it's a it's a good thought. Yeah, Wilkins just a body slammed the commission pretty much. I love that. But anyway, Okay, so the Atlanta Falcons are but I'll get your answered, Dave. I will get your answer because that uh, the Atlanta Falcons are on the clock. Their
pick is in, Dave, real quick. Some of the some of the needs that the Atlanta Falcons are looking at right now, potentially here I would have I would bet you a finger that if he had been available at Oliver would have been there. Oh, there's no question. They want the GM with good hair. Would have picked him. They want pass rushers, they need pass rushers. Yeah, yeah, and another team where I think it's Trench. You know they need pass rushers, but they also need help on
the interior offensive line. They need offensive lineman. Um cornerback is another one, but yeah, I mean pass rushers an offensive line. So I think you're looking at yeah, Montest Sweat, Brian Burns, Chris Lindstrom from Boston College. Those are the three names I'd be looking at here. Well, I'll tell you what though, that again, the pick is in for the Falcons. We're just waiting for them to announce it
at the podium. Uh oh, I like all those names that you mentioned, though, I think there's all our big time Hell again, I don't think this was a team that had sweat off the board when when they were when you know, there were few, there were a few teams, a lot of teams have if you know, we've we've talked about this kind of documented his condition. Um, it's that it's it's the condition is called it's the letters H, O,
C M. But here's the commissioner. Let's see who the pick is in the two thousan nineteen Annabel draft the Atlanta Falcons. So like Chris Lindstrom guard, good call, good call, Dame Burglar. You knew exactly where they were going right there. You mentioned him. It's a safe pick, you know. I think you you feel good about Chris Linds from stepping in from day one, and I don't know if he's ever gonna make a Pro Bowl, but I think he could be a rock solid starting guard for for a
long time. Yeah. A lot of guys that uh that Falcon war room are very happy now, and I think this works out great for the Panthers coming up. They've got Brian Burns, Rondre Dillard. Yeah, I think they go Dillard, but they've got a decision to make here go pass rusher tackle, So things are lining up for them. If the Redskins at fifteen go Haskins, I shouldn't jump the gun here. Yeah, I kind of forgot about him, to be honest with you, but I will well Haskins for sure.
But Sweat is another one which and I know there's been a lot of debate about how far he's gonna fall. Dan you said earlier this week there are teams in the top twenty that haven't written him off. The Falcons are one of them. Where Falcons are one of the Falcons were close to twenty. We're getting there. Yeah, yeah, so this okay with Washington? How about that for Washington?
They sat there that one time and Jonathan Allen, Right, yeah, Jonathan Allen is a top five player on a lot of our a lot of our boards, and all of a sudden he ends up at the seventeenth pick with Washington. Here we go again. You know, for your second it is your first best quarterback, right Dane he was you know, he was your number one guy. So it just shows you though that sometimes you think about oh everything, He's like, they gotta go up, they gotta get up, they gotta
get up. Do we think it's Askins? Could have be I don't know. I've that's strusher. They lost Preston Smith, they could use Brian Burns here Montest sweat here Um just gonna keep drafting defensive lineman from the SEC. Okay, Okay, if they were talking, they were talking about going up for a quarterback, right, that was the rumor. Okay, maybe it was a smoke screen, Yeah, Anna say it's yeah, rumors are you know, just that you know, there's no guarantee that's what it was. But I think it works
out perfectly for him. They stayed put and they might get the guy they considered moving up to three to get all along, which was Dane Haskins. Yeah, it's possible, and it's it works out great for the Redskins if that's the direction when they're going. Look, the quarterback situation is a mess. We know that the Alex Smith's not gonna play this year. Who knows what he comes back and what he looks like in twenty twenty. This year
case Keenum, Colt McCoy obviously not an ideal situation. This could be a situation where we mentioned this many times. Two NFC East teams get their quarterbacks of the future in this draft in the first fifteen picks. We'll see what happens here with the Redskins on the clock. David again, give me the we talked about quarterback. You said offensive line. I'm sorry, offensive line was a considered reds Ye pass offensive line and receiver Josh Doson hasn't really panned out. No,
Jamison Crowder's gone. Yeah, Paul Richardson, who's didn't have his career and um he was in Denver or Seattle seat. Yeah, Paul Richardson hasn't really reached his potential, like not not a boatload of options to feel great about there. I just I mean, and I don't think this would be a receiver. I'm just saying it's something they need to look, would you So you're telling me you guys would be surprised.
You're not surprised if it's something other than a quarterback, if it's a well, okay, let I mean we're talking about I'd tell you lineman, keep dropping right, and what's going on right now? All the discussions of Josh Rosen maybe the Redskins, that's true, are okay? Okay, if the Redskins are if they take if they take a positional player, then they're definitely in on this. They're in on the exactly.
That's that's gonna be the key right here. And what I'm saying like, we don't know the discussions that are being had right now, and this could be a little bit of a tip if they go a different direction. Okay, once again, we remind you though we do have the two have the war room cam from at the Ford Center. We you know, we have that available to us when they offer it to us, we will sure be a part of that. Where a pick fifteen. Right now, the
Washington Redskins Carolina Panthers are behind them again. Our draft coverage of the two thousand nineteenth Foil Draft has brought you by Miller Light. Miller Light, it's the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. H you're trying to figure out exactly what uh you know, it sounds like to me that they're they're saying now that Alex Smith will miss the entire season, expected to miss the entire season. Yeah, so you know and mentioned it case Keenum. Uh, the
quarterback there right now. M Colt McCoy was hurt too at the end of the year in the Dallas game. I'm just spitballing here. I mean, the best offensive tackle in the draft is still there. Well, Frank Williams is again and older. Yeah, Um, no offense there. Jordan Reid
has never played sixteen games in his career. Obviously. Haskins, Well, I think Dane's right if if they do not take a quarterback here, if they don't take Haskins, I think they're one of the teams that's in on They got to be in on on the on that quarterback at Arizona, you know, yeah, maybe or maybe not. Maybe maybe they feel good about case keenum he went to the n SC Championship Games two seasons ago. I'm not saying that
they should feel good about him, but maybe they do. Yeah, all right, well here, you know they're gonna get that running back Darius Geist is coming back at that point. So the Redskins pick is in and let's see that we're again we're waiting for the commissioner. This isn't Haskins then, I really I have no idea why I think you're called chargers. They we only have an appetite for moving
on from Philip and signing. Well they're talking. Yeah again, I mean, look that we know, we don't know, but all the rumors were pointing towards Daniel Snyder wanting Daniel Haskins and you know, kind of return bring him home. You know, we played in Maryland. I grew up in New Jersey but moved to Maryland right near DC. Uh. You know, I think it makes too much sense. Let him be the quarterback of the future, Dwayne Haskins to
the Redskins. Let's make this happen. Well, you know, I kind of thinking, you know, Doug Williams is one of the personnel directors. There, I kind of see. You know, Doug Williams was a tough, big, stand in the pocket, big armed quarterback, deliver, throw the ball down the field. You know that kind of guy. I can't see. I mean, that was a that was a he was a Redskin legend. You know, this guy has the potential to be that same kind of big, strong, physical, throw the ball. He's
from New Jersey, right, kind of that part of the country. Yeah, well, he went to Maryland First High School. Al Right, let's see what the commissioner has to say here in the twenty nineteen Nabel Draft. But Washington Redskins select Skins. There you go, and there you go to the big ten record or the streak of twenty four straight years of
the first round quarterback is snaffed. And Daniel Jones and Dwayne Haskins are kind of they'll be attached for a little bit now in the NFC East between these two, Yeah, exactly forever. I mean one, I mean six verse fifteen. If you had asked me this morning, I think you have to trade up to get Haskins, get him at fifteen. He's the third quarterback taken in this draft, which I think is crazy. Um yeah, I mean the Giants, the
Giants decision. I mean the Redskins coveted this guy. It's not like I don't think they would have taken Jones, at least they would have considered, not considered it as heavily point being the Giants decision to take him. As high as these guys are always going to be linked. It's just it's just so funny how the Redskins, you know, they talk about moving up, moving up, moving up, and they just sit there and they get probably the guy
they wanted. You know, they had to be really how be that as this as when the Giants took When the Giants took Daniel Jones, that was their path, wasn't it? Unless Green Bay We talked about them a little bit. But you know, I'll tell you what with Haskins, though I mentioned this, this is a physically impressive size allows him to hang in the pocket. This guy bounces on his toes a little bit. When you watch him in the pocket. He's accurate throwing off play action. He keeps
his eyes down the field. You know, he could sort of routes. He could hit the crossing routs. You see a million crossing routes. My man Campbell catches a million of those underneath routes. Compact throwing motion, kind of a quick flick of the wrist, and that ball is out arm talent to make the wide throws where he missed the deep balls over the middle. I noticed when he when he when he had a little problems with that deep it would be over the middle of the defense.
And but he's not as accurate either when he has to throw the ball on the move, so he needs to kind of hang in there. His interception really happened. His turnovers happened when he overthrows his target or he gets hit in the pocket. That's where a lot of his overthrows or a lot of his interestans were overthrows that he was trying to make down the field. So Dwayne Haskins a member of the Washington Redskins. Now, you know,
good for them. They didn't have have to trade up, they did not have to give up any draft capital. They stayed right where they were, and they got a quarterback. I'm sure that they were elated to have. So that puts the Caroline Panthers on the clock. Maybe I just want to talk about Haskins anymore. I mean, here's a guy who's now in the division. You know you have to deal with the imagery cowboy fan. It's it's the classic,
it's the Draft night gamble. I mean, this guy could make your life miserable for the next fifteen years, or you could be laughing about it in a year and a half. Obviously, the Cowboys are hoping for there. I think if you had, if you made me bet on it right now, I think Haskins. I think Haskins is going to be a pain in the butt for the Cowboys.
Daniel Jones, I'm not so sure Haskins answer me this, so I already said I think ELI is gonna ELI is gonna start at least the beginning of twenty and one's you know, probably isn't ready anyway about Haskins, like you're holding him back because of case Keenum you think about I was about to ask you over under ten stars for Haskins this year. That was gonna be kind of because there's another team you talked about this earlier
in Arizona. They're on their team with the fan base in Washington, and the Washington Redskins have a very proud fan base and they but they they stay tired fan base. It's had a very tired and you're right, and I don't Cowboys fans listening to this don't want to hear it, but they're probably more tired. Yeah Cowboys. Yea, the Cowboy eighty three. Last time it was Super Bowl one. I
think the Super Bowl eighty three Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah, but point I mean again, Cowboys fans don't want to hear this, but yeah, Cowboys fan ends have had more to be happy about over the last twenty five years than than they have. Yeah, it's been it's been a rough go since like nine yeahs in like nineteen ninety three. Yeah, for the Washington Redskins. So and between the fan base, you got Haskins coming in. Keenum has had one good season in his entire life. I mean, you know, Eli's
won two Super Bowls. He's done this, he's done that. There's every reason, you know, there's every reason to send him out like you did with Dirk Navitsky here in Dallas. What why case Keenum? Like get the kid in there, especially, you know, like you said, you got Darius Geist there. They could kind of be a Dak and Zeke type of thing. I'm I'm getting him on the field as soon as possible. If I'm Washington, I think there's a good chance that we see Dwayne Haskins day one as
a starter. I think there's a good chance that happened like that. If it's not day one, it'll before September is over. Yeah, against my guess, Dave. I talk about that fan base. You make the trips to FedEx Field, you know, I mean, I trust me. I watched tape. I see a lot of empty seats, you know, a lot of people not caring about Redskins football right now. The seats that aren't empty are filled by silver and blue. There is no place in the country. Burns are diller
but Carolina Panthers Brian Burns, Florida State broadus's fiftieth rated player. Yeah. I wasn't too happy with him, and so we'll see. We'll see and Dane since you know, and he looks like he looks like one of my fraternity brothers walking right there. You know, thin kind of guy. You know, I just don't like that body type right there. I hope the guy. I hope the kid has some success in uh at Carolina and they they do a pretty good job on defense. They do a really good job
on defense there so, but Dane, I'm alegic. This one over go ahead. One thing that I really liked about Brian Burns was when you watch Florida State, it was a mess on defense except for Brian Burns. He had had double digit sacks. He could have easily mailed it in and said, all these guys around me aren't playing up to their level. Uh, you know, we're a terrible defense. Our thirty six year streak is over. But you know, I could easily mail it in. But he didn't. He
didn't at all. I mean, he played at a high level all season. And I think you're absolutely right about the lack of a power move. Yeah, but this guy has explosiveness. He's flexible, he can bend the edge. You hope that he can continue to develop his body and get stronger. That I worry about that power move. But even if he doesn't, even if he just has, uh you know, the burst, the flexibility, the athleticism, if that's good for you know, eight to ten sacks a year.
What's his weight? Not so bad? Two fifty? Yeah, Marcus Lawrences too. I will I will be glad to admit to Marcus Lawrence was two forty three when he came out. I think you guys are paring this guy to de Marcus. We were. I'm just telling you, though, if you're okay, wait, that's not fair. That just I don't know. I don't know if he's gonna be a player. But I mean to say, like NFL players put on weight, that's what they do. Yeah, I just don't see this guy. I see this as a long limbed, thin guy, and I
think he's always gonna be guy. I'll be a swear, I will be happy, happy, and and people do a great job on Twitter reminding you when Brian Burns has four sacks against the New Orleans Saints. The best thing about this y no, And I you know, but I I understand. I understand the initial quickness and the balance and all that and clothe haunt, but you know, I just feel like he didn't finish enough plays. That's the thing. You said, eight to ten sack guy, You say, I say,
you say ten. Say if he turns out to be an eighth to ten sac guy just based off athletics, Yeah, I mean that's something that but he gets bounced. This guy is not a physical player, but he's got this removes and he has to plan the move and he can't get it locked up on blockers because he doesn't he doesn't have He's either gonna win with quickness and balance and bend or he's not gonna win. That's just kind of how I feel this guy is, you know,
And we talked about that, you know, sharp ring. They blocking him a little bit, you know, and I'm just kind of watching the game and I'm going, okay, but I will, I will be happy to admit I'm wrong here, and you're right, Dave. I had him. I had him buried on my top one hundred. There's nothing wrong with that. No, cream, No, But again, I don't want to. I don't want to. You know. If if Dane is right about guy, good
for Dane. But you know, I had him at forty two, so that's a lot where they took him was a lot higher than where I would have taken him on our one oh five three board. Though Cavanaugh, we had Bossa, Alan Sweat and Burns was our first pick at the top of the second round. So we have and now we've had three guys taken out the second round. By the way, Board, Burns, Farrell, and Gary are all guys that have been taken. We're still we're so early, but
that's that is something to remember. Yeah, and you're talking about the Cowboys pick, right, because yeah, Farrell's going off at number four. Guy, you know you had Burns at forty two. Right, the Cowboys are gonna have a guy so much differently than everyone else. That happens for everyone. Be interesting to see who it is. All right. The New York Giants are on the clock right now. This
will be their second of the two. This is a pick that they obtained from the the Cleveland Browns, where according to David Hellman, they traded away an additional player, right did I say that right? Yeah, with Odell Beckham. So here's the Giants. They addressed their quarterback with the sixth overall pick. Dave, you have a direction where you think the Giants will go with this pick as it's going to be coming in. They did quarterbacks so needs
on defense, they got rid of Snax Harrison. They haven't had a good linebacker and god knows how long, but I mean Montes Sweat still out there. Yeah, we don't know how their doctor and training Styff, I believe. I believe the Cowboys and the Giants share or with the sun on the medical there's the pods of doctors were not mistaken when I was working here, and it still might be the same. The Giants doctors are on with the Cowboys doctor so maybe well, you know, there's a
lot of of interaction going back and forth. Jim Mauer, the trainer here, Britt Brown, those guys they share medical information with other staffs. So maybe the Giants maybe feel the same way about the Cowboys. About montest here, I me personally though, I again, I would have taken sweat over Burns, Farrell and Gary. That's just me right now. In light of Danes, you know, in light of Danes reporting that team's in the top twenty, felt good about him.
I'm a little surprised he's still here, you know, when you're talking like Farrell's off the board, Burns is off the board, Aries off the board. So I'm it wouldn't shock me. I mean, yeah, what do you associate the New York Giants with badass pass rushing? Absolutely that's what they do. Yeah, so absolutely. But Andre Dillard is still here too, Yeah, No, and that's a line absolutely. Yeah, they haven't had a linebacker, they haven't had an off
a good offensive tackle. I know they have, Solder overpaid him. Yeah, he had his struggles and that that's offensive finally fixed the Flowers debacle with from draft to tackle here, right, Yeah, that's that was something. And Flowers was like the ninth overall pick. Yeah, that thing. That thing just turned out very very badly for the Giants. So again, they can go a couple of different ways. They can have the
pass or they can go with the offense line. I'll tell you, if they add Dillard here, that would be very impressive. I don't think they need a center. I don't see the center being a being in play here, you know, with maybe potentially Bradbury, but I think we're getting close, Dane, aren't we on about Bradbury and maybe where he can go. I like him to the next pick at eighteen, to the Vikings. Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. Helps fix two positions with
had alf line moving from center to guard. Put Garrett Garrett Bradbury in its center and you've got that figured out, Okay, So I would do I would do something with the lines here because what you pick at thirty seven, you could get a receiver there. You could get a receiver you can get at the top of the third round if you wanted to be very surprised as a receiver. No, no, I don't think I'm saying you get your get some weapons later in the draft. Worry about your lines right now.
I mean, if they medically cleared Montes Sweat missing no brainer pick for the Giants. Yeah, well, I guess I shouldn't say that because Andre Dillard is a pretty good player and they need offensive line help. Yeah, so you should, as they just drafted Daniel Jones sixth overall. So yeah, I've got I've got a board Sweat at seven. I think you do too, gain your top one hundred, and then Andre Dillard you've You've got him at nine and I've got him at eight. So these tags, if you're
talking about top one hundreds, are touching each other. Okay. The Commissioner Ki Garrison is walking. Good Lord, Oh they got hot Mike too from Camp Humpreys in South Korea. Please join me and welcoming members of the second Infantry Decision Division, rock Us Combined Division, among them, his officer James Boneki. He's a native of Brooklyn, New York, and he's about to make the Giants pick Officer Berneck take
it away. With the seventeenth pick of the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Dexter Lawrence of tackle Clepson. That guy is from New York. He did say Brooklyn, Okay, I need to tell me so the New York Giants. I didn't say New York Football Giants, but I will there leave that to Jason Garrett. I will leave that to Jason Garrett. Dexter Lawrence, he did not see that one coming, Dame Brookler. There are just so many humans on this earth that are his size,
that can move like him. I mean sure, very very few. Is this so snax Harrison? But that they had Snacks Harrison and they released him. A big part of that, obviously was the contract. Right Still, it a little bit surprising to see him here. The reason I'm not in various is he just doesn't give me much as a pass rusher. Right He's a two down player right now, and he could be a really good two down player.
But I feel like I can find those guys. I think he does have some pass rush upside because he is such a good athlete for his size, he can develop. He's still a young player, but a little surprising to see him here at this point. David Hellman, I mean, I'm tweeting this out so sorry, I'm putting my priority on social media. But like for for you know, we won't we won't know. We will not know until a couple of years down the line. But it's always fun when teams are just like, watch this, like we we
got our board. Screw you guys, Like Gentleman's just like we want Daniel Dexter Lawrence, like we probably could get both of them in the second round, but here we go, let's do this, and hey the Raiders too. Yeah. So, uh, I don't know. Yeah, it's it's again, it's surprising based on the research that I've done, but that doesn't mean I'm right. Yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, they don't
have snacks. They need defensive lineman. Like they they cycled all those guys out of there, So Vernon's gone now, uh, JPP has been gone, Snacks is gone, right they got the really like the kid they have from Alabama, Tomlinson. Yea, but yeah, keep the you know, keep the talent coming through, but little south for him. I don't know, now, Okay, then that that he was, Yeah, that's that's kind of
a surprising pick. Again with you know, a big time offensive lineman on the board, and again here you're going to transition into a new quarterback someday. You know, you think you might want to help him a little bit, and in fact that they they don't make that happen. I'll say this about Lawrence though, Dang's right about the size. I mean, this is a this guy's excellent speeding quickness to spite his mammoth size. I mean, this guy is a big, big, big man play square along the line
of scrimmage. He's got mad in power and he will chase the ball outside. He gets gas some You'll watch some games where he'll get it roll in two, three, four players and next you know, he's out of the game for a little bit. He doesn't have many pass rush moves. Stain Burglar told you all about that. It's all about power with him. I just like to see him get rid of that blocker a little bit quicker. But he's got the power to walk a blocker back
into the into the quarterback. So Dexter from Clemson, a massive man, is now a member of the New York Giants. States he's the guy they the Clemson Tigers like to put in on their goal line package. He had three or four rushing touchdowns in his career. There you go, the pitch in for the Vikings, s Dave Burgler, you think this is going to be the that makes the most sunse again because you can move elf line to upgrade both center and guards. You kind of like Defne
elf Line from Ohio State, right. Yeah, but he's been struggling at center, hasn't been a really good fit for him, and so I think moving him back to guard by help his career. But the Vikings need to go offensive line. Andre Dillard's still here. Yeah, I mean that's that's something where maybe you can move uh Riley Reef move him inside. Yeah, let me look up the Dave. Do you have the Vikings in front of you buying chance? I know you have the knee ye Riley Reef inside to guard and
you have Andre Dillard at your tackle spot. If you look at their needs, they're talking about guard tackle, you know, uh, tight end safety. But yeah, I mean, heck, there's one of the best tackles or one of the best centers is on the board. You know, why not? You know, why not do that? Let's see the commissioner is making his way to the podium. The Vikings just pulled up. Brian brought us. They're like, here, just take a scar. The Vikings are smart. In the two thousand nineteen drafts,
the Minnesota Vikings select Garrett Bradbury North Carolina State. Want to get into a little bit Dane or you want Dave Helmer myself to take that former tight end? There you go. Former defensive lineman. They moved. He actually played guard as a sophomore in the center of the last two year years. Really really athletic player. When I was watching the offensive lineman work out, the Andre Dillot and Garrett Bradberry just moved differently than everybody else in the field.
I mean, he's again plug and play center, who can reach the three technique, he can pull, He's best in his zone scheme. There's just so much you can do with him. And again moving Pat Elfland and guard Garrett Bridberry at center, all of a sudden, that Minnesota off is it's a big upgrade for them. Okay, and then you're talking about this guy. Is you talk about the ability to move? I always you always talk about guys
that could cut the defense in half at center. This guy can meet Dan's right, He makes the reach block easily. He has ability to snatch a wide technique. He could chip and adjust the second level, this guy is really smart. Mirror slide, doesn't playoff balance, stays after his block, works to finish, pop in his hands. You see, you'll see him the defender gets knocked back a little bit when he when his hands, when his hands get inside, you can see that defender get knocked back his punch. Second
level player. I talked about that just well. On the move, position, body, ballet, pass, set and punch. Uh. This guy's going to play a long time in this league just because he's just so athletic and the ability to play on his feet stay on his feet. He never appears guys being distressed when it comes to how they how they how he plays. He just always looks in total control. So Gary, the Cowboys do play the Vikings this year, and so we'll probably see him as the starter at center. Okay, So
that now we got the Tennessee Titans. The hometown draft Titans are on the clock. Uh, Dave, do you have an idea of some of those team needs for the Titans see Titans linebacker, d tackle, receiver, Oh, tackle one more time? When we please linebacker, specifically outside linebacker. Okay, d tackle, wide receiver tackle. It's gotta be gotta be a guy here, right, Gotta be Dillard, don't you think? Um, I think that's not a lot of confidence in that
right there? Where's mont tests what gonna go? That's what I I you know, yeah, absolutely where this this is all about the heart right now. And I mean the heart, not not not not as a player, I mean as the as the the condition that I was talking about. If you want to look it up, it's it's it's h O c M. It's what they call it. It's you know, the trainers roll it off their tongue like it's you know, a new day. But yeah, it's it's
a condition. You need to check the h ho c M. And it has to do with the measurement of the heart. And he falls in the bottom quarter of this, so we'll see. I mean it's something that the the that the obviously the NFL teams are looking at right now. I don't think they go tackle because they have uh Taylor of the one left, and then at right tackle they have the kid from Michigan State they drafted in the first round a couple of years ago. Yeah, um,
what's his name? I'm looking back at that. I'm trying to uh so, Yeah, get my colts mixed up with those guys. I'd be surprised if they went tackle. I think Montes Sweat as your edge rusher makes sense. Hollywood Brown, you want a weapon for I mean, this could be all about helping out your young quarterback Marcus Mariota. So I think you could look at a wide receiver like Hollywood Brown. That would make some sense. But we'll see Montes Sweat again and keep coming back to him as
long as you're comfortable with the heart. And again, there were several teams in the top twenty that I knew were but we're past those teams and neither neither of those teams drafted him. So well, and if you look at that, you're right they this is a team Tennessee, added Adam Humphreys, who was from Tampa as you know, playing the slot. Uh. They also you know Corey Davis was a draft pick that they had several years ago. So yeah, trying to get this, uh get a little hope.
Could they could they go I wouldn't say go tight in here. I mean and again, but you're you're right. I think that I wouldn't will out tight end. I think that's I mean, that's certainly a possible have do they have playmakers? Corey Davis hasn't done anything. He really hasn't done much in Henry and I think they added Humphreys. They added Humphreys here. I mean, so that's not gonna stop him from drafting out a splot receiver. Delaney Walker's
getting up there. And that's that's why. That's why I mentioned. That's why I mentioned to tight end. You know, could the value just be too good? At Noah Fan? Are you worried about the teams behind you potentially grabbing? Uh grabbing? Uh? Noah Fan. So again, I'm just kind of I'm gonna be fascinated here who the Tennessee Titan again to pick is in We're waiting for the commissioner his way to
the podium. Keep talking, man, that Dillard, that that just surprises me that he hasn't gone yet, and maybe we're gonna get a run on these offensive tackles here pretty soon. But Dane mentioned sweat. I think that that Simmons is going to be a guy that's gonna be later probably, Dane, don't you think you know a pick? You know for a red shirt pick? I wanted to be shocked at any point. Now, Okay, Simmons can come off the board here,
and I think that would make sense. There's not been a cornerback that has not been selected yet in this draft, so we thought that might be twenty with a Steelers Exaculars aren't picking at twenty. So the commissioner is making his way to the podium. He looks like he's got a group of local football players from Tennessee there with him. So let's see what the for. The Titans pick our thirteen high school football captains from teams across Nashville. These
teams represent metro Nashville public schools in Davidson County. They also exemplify commitment to team and community. Please welcome your local high school student athletes. We're been nineteenth pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft. The Tennessee Titans select Jeffrey Simmons, defensive tackle Mississippi State. Well then how about that one of the top five towns, no question, get a red shirt him? Likely? Uh, Dan, you had the medical or do you maybe to get that for you?
On him? There's an a clay and so you know that's something where a cls these days are easily fixable. You know, you think you just put every needs different and so you know they must feel comfortable about the a cl how that's going. He injured it what I
believe is late January early February. So at the timetable, maybe he's back towards the end of the year, but ideally, you know it's really not going to be until next season that you're giving the Jeffrey Simmons that we saw on tape that in the SEC and that is I'll say, what though he is on my board, I had him and I know this is this is me. I'm going to be different than everybody. But I had him as one of my on the on the top one hundred,
I had him at number four. I just I think that this much of this player and you know, and I was watching the Quinnon Williams and those guys play, and I thought Jeffries is just as just as talented as a guy like a Quinton Williams. Though the power that he plays with the ability to get off blocks, disruptive, I mean all those phrases and words that you want to use for Quinnon Williams, I felt like that you could say the same thing about Jeffrey Simmons and what
he was able to do. I mean, he can even play inside. So, uh, give the Titans that you know, this is a pick, as Dane said, not so much about today, but more about what we're gonna have in two and twenty for the Tennessee Titans. So okay, so this is the we're down to the twentieth twentieth pick here, twentieth overall pick. The this is a pick that the Pittsburgh Steelers initially had and they traded to the Denver Broncos. Pittsburgh took Devin Bush. Dame Burgler called it. They're now
giving you the graphics. We gave you that a lot earlier. The Denver Broncos. We talked about all that they got for that. Will repeat what they had on that trade, just to give you an idea what they were able to get from the Steelers. They picked up this twentieth overall pick. They picked up two fifty two, that's a second round pick, and in a third round pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. We think that's more like a four right now as we speak in value and
stuff like that. So, Dave, we've talked about Denver a little bit earlier when they were on the clock, Come on Denver. But it is the board now with ten names gone. Does that change for them anything that you can see from the needs the needs a bit? Well, we're okay if we assume that this isn't going to be Drew Locke. Can we assume that maybe I don't think they go quarterback, but they want to give Flacco
a chance to be the guy. It's funny because you know, at ten you're not really feeling good about wide receiver. But at twenty would Brown territory or DK Metcalf territory, which I mean little early on y'all's boards, maybe not for them. See I an offensive line and linebacker as well, and I think we all agree there's not a linebacker that's worth a true linebacker, not a pass rusher, but yeah,
not a true linebacker. Worth taking at twenty Maybe is there an offensive lineman now that Dillard still out there? This says guard. Yeah, do they? I mean they just drafted the Utah kid a year or two ago, right, he lived up to that at all? Right, Well, so you could take you could take a tackle. Well, and they signed what's the jown James from Miami as a starting tackle for them. So it just really comes down to do they believe Garrett Bowles be a quality starter
in this league or not? Or are they ready to pull the plug and give up on that? Just for some housekeeping notes, I know we haven't taken a break since we've we've started this draft. We just kind of roll with the flow as we go. After this pick with Denver, we'll take a little break, give everybody a chance to do what they need to do, stretch it, and get back in this. So after this diver pick, we'll take a little break here for a couple of
minutes and then come back. But I am I am curious about you know, with the Broncos, You're you're right about that tackle they drafted from Utah. He hasn't done anything any I mean that that. I think that to them was a little bit of a you know, as a reach, and I still think that that that right now they try to fix that. Well, that's what I'm thinking right here with the Broncos. I mean, I'm thinking
that I just don't know how. I just don't know how that again, maybe Dillard, maybe I'm maybe I'm too two too high on him, but yeah, I mean Garrett Bowles when they were when Denver was picking at ten, eye pushed or t J. Hawkinson, Right, Hawkinson's gone, right, Bush is gone, but the other eye with tight end's not gone. Okay, so let's throw no a fan into that conversation. Okay, let's sorry, give me, give me a little scouting report on Noah Fant. Then Dane Burglar, I mean,
he's a great athlete. He showed it at the combine at four or five forty n was ridiculous. It was a six eight range. But he holds his own as a blocker. But he's gonna make you know, he's gonna prove to be a first round pick because of what he does in the passing game as a receiver. M Evan Ingram type. You know, the guy that can stretch a seam. I can help you out on really, when you watch him on more than just the simple throws, I mean he does something where he can expand outside.
He can you know, go over the middle. He's tough, he's fearless. So I think there's a lot you can do with Noah Fan as a in line but also in the slide. You can put him outside. He's a rocked up receiver, but he also could do some things that you would expect to tight end to do. Yeah, he's a very athletic guy. When he runs routes just on the move, he could track the ball. He gets his eyes around quickly. When you watch him play, I just saw a guy that catches the ball really well
on the move. And so if in fact that the Denver Broncos do make this selection, I'm looking at the tiding groups. It's you know, Jake Butt was a guy you know that we talked about several years ago. It was, you know, potential first round pick. Hurt his knee in a bowl game, the Orange Bowl Game, I want to say, and you know, as as kind of Fumagali was a
guy too that they drafted last year. So we'll see that the Denver Broncos chose to go tight in here maybe they go offensive tackle, but the pick is definitely in. We're just waiting for the commissioner to make his way to the podium, and here he comes. We're the twentieth pick and the Tanne Belle trap. The Denver Broncos select Noah Fans, here we go tight end. Well, Dane, you had it, you had an idea of what direction they were gonna go there. Well, and I it just made sense.
With t J. Hawkinson, a player that they were considering at ten if he was there, he wasn't there obviously, and the other are with tight end who's it was different than Hawkinson obviously, but he gives Joe Flacco an upgrade tight end. He helps out that offense tremendously. So certainly makes sense why they go in that direction. Dave, I think, and I mean, this is easy. We're so we're so quick into it. But man, two teams that
stand out to me, love what they've done. Buffalo got at Oliver at nine, and then Denver trades back ten spots, picks up a second pick fifty two fifty three, fifty three fifty you're so Denver picks twenty and gets a super freak tight end. Everybody loves right at them. They add fifty two and they also have forty one. So you're picking twenty forty one fifty two and your first pick is Noah Fan who I absolutely love if I could.
He is on the short list of guys that I would love for the Cowboys to have had if they had a first round pick. There you go. I love what the Broncos absolutely so far. Tonight, okay, take a little bit of a couple minute break here, Seattle will be on the clock. We got Seattle, Baltimore, the Texans, and then the Nas are back, and we will be back with coverage of the two thousan nineteen NFL Draft from the SBbc Mortgage Seals presented by Miller Ltte. So
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Cowboys World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. We're back here with the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, brought you by Miller Lte, Brian Broadest, Dane Brugler, David Hillman, Kent Garrison, Executive Producing. Happy that everybody is here with us. The Green Bay Packers have just made a trade with the with the Seattle Seahawks. Their pick is in Seattle picks up,
Seattle drops to thirty in the fir round. That's the pick that the Packers got from New Orleans and they also get pick one fourteen eighteen, so thirty one fourteen one eighteen that goes to the Packers, actually to the Seattle Seahawks, and the Packers pick is in. David Hellman, I'll go to you and talk to me a little bit about Green Bay Packers if you could please. First of all, I mean, I'm just it just goes to show like you could never art or anything for war
room kids. And we got it again the war room cam as Ben bars, Yeah, at the Ford Center there. So yeah, so thanks to everybody there. Again it looks like a full compliment of guys who are kind of hanging in there just watching the draft, just like us. And uh so we'll see what the Green Bay Packers. And you can't you can't count on a trade chart because at the end of the day, it's all about the teams in question, Like how desperately did Seattle want to get out of that pick? How desperate was a
team to get up? Did you do the math. On that day, Seattle drop back for two fourths. It's two fourth equals twenty four and the difference between thirty and so they went from went from how many points did you say, dame twenty four and the difference was one hundred. Yeah, they short changed him by like sixty points. Yeah. So so pick pick twenty one was worth eight hundred and pick thirty was worth six twenty, So they shorted him one eighties. So they shorted him sixty points. So they
showed him a fourth round pick. Yeah, the commissioners going to the podium. Let's see we got here for green Bay, the Seattle Seahawks have traded the twenty first pick to the green Bay Packers, and with the twenty first pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the green Bay Packers select Darnell Savage. I love the draft. It's the best. Tell me about this draft, David Hellman, Oh, oh, why are the Why aren't the Cowboys talking about Arnel Savage
at fifty eight? How come he's not a name? Blah blah blah. Well he's gone now thirty old picks before it's worth talking about for the Cowboys. Um, y'all talk about the player that I mean and to that point, we talked about Darnell Savage, but we never really talked about him. He was as a guy for the Cowboys. I mean, you know, the big rumor this afternoon was that he was going to be the first safety taken. In fact, he was so yeah, and and and and
and good for him. I mean, this guy though, when I when I watched this guy play, I mean I was I was impressive. Now again, I didn't feel like that he was going to be the first safety because again Attterly was my guy there. But I mean, when you look at this guy play, the flexness, the move smoothly. He plays with a burst you can open and go. He's got he's got his assignments. He's very aware of
all that he could close some ground. When you watch him play, when he reads as an ease of movement to his game, no problem, I'm carrying these these receivers up the field. He doesn't get fooled it all plays, his eyes wraps up with more place that way, reacts well in that zone. We'll jump some routes and can
cover on the outside. So yeah, this is a guy that he runs really really well, like four three five, right, Jane, something like that bit of I guess a vote of no confidence for mister Josh Jones, our North Carolina state safety from a couple of years ago. Yeah, well it's sixty one in twenty seventeen. Yeah, well, we'll see, we'll see what happens. I feel like the Packers have been drafting a dB at the top of the draft for like five years running. I mean Kevin King Jr. Alexander
Josh Jackson, Damarius Randall. Yeah, this guy, Darnell Savage. I feel like I'm missing one and I don't know who it is, and instruction and all the ones he did that they have been infatuated with drafting them some dbs. Yeah, and that's uh. I'll tell you what though. This is again here they oh, now that was a trade between the Okay, we got a trade between the didn't to kind of cut you there, the Eagle, Eagles and Ravens with a trade. So this is gonna put philadelps what's
going on here? We'll talk about how I was told that Marky's Brown was not getting past twenty five and the Eagles. Right, maybe this is where we see the first receiver off the board. Okay, well, then this is gonna be this pick. The Philadelphia Eagles come from twenty five, the pick goes to Baltimore. Now the way this trade is gonna work, Baltimore gets they take twenty two, send it to picking at twenty five. Philadelphia moves to twenty two.
They give the Ravens one twenty seven in this draft, so that's a fourth round pick in this current draft, sets one twenty seven. And then they also give them one ninety seven. So once again Baltimore picks up and one ninety seven. That's a sixth round, sixth rounds selection as well. Pick one ninety seven is worth thirteen and pick one twenty seven is worth Unfold, this thing one twenty seven is we're forty five, so fifty eight total points to go up three spots. It was it's sixty
point trade and they gave him fifty eight points. There you go, that's it so perfecto. Let's see what the Eagles. Okay, I keep talking about offensive line? Is this what the Eagles now is there's just too much value for the Eagles not to select Dillard here. Jason Peters has got to retire at some point right, good point. Yeah, Yeah, this is the type of move that Philadelphia see somebody and I'm just looking at I'm looking at the board
and I'm thinking, why not I forgot all about Dillard. Yeah, he's still out there, so that would make a lot of sense. I mean, Dillard is a player who is one of the best. He is the best athlete among the offensive linemen. Foot quick and his body control, flexibility, that lane Johnson, he's the right tackle Jason Peters. When you're thirty seven years old, you hope he stays healthy. But you don't know, is this his life? He missed
his plays. I mean he'll be like, he'll play a series and then he'll get dinged and then he's on the ground and then you next you know, they're carting him off and our TCU guys playing our TCU guy play by time. Yeah, I think this is just too good of an opportunity for the Eagles to you know, they obviously they they traded up for a guy they had. Dane always talks about that, go trade for a guy,
they trade in front of three. No, they jumped. They clearly jumped in front of the Houston Texans, who we know won an offensive lineman absolutely of the Texans to get their tackle, which that makes a ton of sense. Let's let's go to the podium right here, the twenty second pick to the Philadelphia Eagles. We're the twenty second pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Andre Dillar. Here you go, I mean you don't.
You don't want to be happy about NFC's team's picks, but that's I think that's a great pick. I'll tell you what. I loved him, and I loved him and Jonah Wims. He was my number one rated tackle and uh for yeah, you talk about the division. The Philadelphia Eagles like give him credit. They find ways to pix and they went and got I think the best offensive to this guy's never on the ground. He is a
he plays on his feet, plays a balance. You know, Dane, you were talking about a little bit some concern at the Senior Bowl, a little bit about him kind of first power, first power. There were times where he was late to anchor and he would struggle for his bullies. But offensive tackles class in terms of foot quickness, flexibility, body control, the ability to redirect play in space, just looks very natural to him. He's just a pure athlete
and so a guy that you're worried about. How much is heway, okay comes in a three hundred and fifteen pounds of the combine, no questions there doesn't have for all that we talked about Jonah Williams and his arm length short of arms, so that that's the factor here. But I mean, the Eagles got just upgraded their offensive line, which we figured to the offensive line defensive line. They got to tackle their future left tackle for years to come.
Dave Dane pointed out something very nice. If you read Houston's needs, I guarantee offensive tackle is one of them right off the bat, although does it well? And you know teams have the way we think. I mean, if I'm Houston, they're up next, right if hell bent on a tackle, well there's still a pretty damn good one on the board. But if that, if that was their guy, well, Cody Ford and did I miss Juwan Taylor going? Taylor is still there, Tom Taylor. Still there's some medical stuff
there though, which game Who knows what that? And that's my point is maybe it's Daylord or nobody. We don't know, But you got options at tackle if you want one. Um, but man, yeah, I was gonna say, you know, you have like favorite players in this draft, you know, Yeah, Howie Roseman is like my favorite GM just in like, I'm sure you'd be happy to hear that that dude knows how to maneuver a draft like he was moving around the Yeah, there's no question value. Yeah there, I
mean it. Although they got better, Eagles drafts are fun and they typically come away with good players. They did, they did, They gave and said the trade was spot on right. Sixty points for the value, fifty eight points for the trade. So good job of using the trade chart. Good job round you who needs what positions? Uh? You know the Texans, it might be a pen throwing moment for them that they lost Dillard, but as you guys mentioned Ford Taylor, those guys are still still on the
still on the clock. So the Texans were targeting tackle there they go, I mean that's that. Uh, we're ian Rapid said that they're targeting right there, so we already said, I mean there's still tackles there depending on their grade. Outside linebacker, forget about it. Running back. Kind of hard to believe. Both of the top two corners are still there, so that's is that would be their third need, right those are the big they're big four needs offensive tackle, cornerbacker.
Day too early to take the I mean may not too early for me to take our Washington cornerback out of that. Uh Murphy right there. Huh. This is either what you look at corner and all the more available Greedy Williams, Yeah, Murphy, rockyr Sin. This has got to be a tackle or crassy And so it depends do they have a higher grade on Cody Forward or John Taylor. They've got two. They've got two picks in the second round, by the way, too correct right there ahead of the Cowboys.
I've been talking about that. It's picked fifty four and pick fifty five. So they got picks back to back in that second round that they can they could surely use here that maybe this cornerboard stretches a little bit, Dane and you get a guy one of those spots instead. Well, once again we're back in the We're back in the war room at the Ford Center. Uh. Jerry Jones is uh with Stephen Jones right there kind of talking through some things. I wonder you know, we talked about Jeffrey
Simmons as that you know the van. There's no way, there's no way he's in the cowboys range. And we were right right. I wonder if there's anybody else left that's got them feeling anty in their pansy. Maybe not right now, maybe it'll take until, you know, obviously, like Jonathan Abram, that's still a little ways away. But I wonder, you know what, guy, right now, let me ask this. It's gonna sound crazy. You wouldn't do that for sweat? Would you? Would you try and fief keeps falling? Hell? Yeah,
I would? Would you think about that, Dane? I mean he's got that well, I mean, okay, our friend Britt Brown is in the in the war room right now, you're talking about trading up in the first Yeah, that's probably you have to trade next year. I know. I'm just yeah again, I'm trying to think of you're asking for blue blue stars. Much fun with that pass rush b though, Yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence, Robert Quinn Sea sure he can get some snaps too, throw him into the deal
to trade up. Oh ok yeah, well okay, so we Dane thinks it's either going to be a corner or a offensive tackle. We've talked about Ford, We've talked about Taylor Lillard, Little Lillard, I say little Little is also they're more of a second round guy. The commissioners going to the podium, let's see who. In fact, I'm thinking twenty nineteen NFL driver, the Hutson Texans select Titus Howard tackle Alabama. That's got to be the first first round
pick in their history, right, I would think so. I mean, I can't remember one offhand. Um Now, I love this guy from this earlier this year, I loved them. Um Now, he struggled some of the Senior Bowl. He's former quarterback, moved to tight end. He basically got thrown in the fire. He was a backup tight end who they kind of worked out as an offensive tackle, got thrown in there as a freshman, started four years. So he's still developing still as a ways to go. But uh, Texas example,
maybe Dane Burger. I don't know what the hell we're doing. I had him at eighty Dane had him at seventy nine in the top one hundred, and that's amazing to me. When you start talking about guys like Ford, Taylor Little, those guys are all available at at those are offensive tackles that maybe, but hey, isn't this isn't that you don't you don't have to feel bad until you've had
a chance to watch how this all shakes out. But that's that was kind of the point, is like after after the first fifteen, guys, nobody agrees on any of this, and clearly not even in the first fifteen because freaking Cleveland Farrell was the fourth overall pick. Yeah, nobody, nobody
agrees to some guys that again, I mean surprised. I had him at eighty, you had him at seventy nine, and I got all these tackles above him, you know, And I think, you know what, it's not necessarily a surprise because he goes in the first I mean, it is a surprise, but I think it's more of a surprise that he went ahead of Cody Ford, when ahead of Jawan Taylor, when ahead of Greg Little did do a very good job that No, I mean, it's it is really a surprise. I guess Joan Taylor medicals Cody Forward.
They probably haven't graded as a guard. Yeah, and Greg Little, I don't, I mean, I understand it was the second round grade right, Yeah, they they like the upside of Howard. Interesting. Yeah, it really is interesting. Okay, this puts the Raiders. I love them. Yeah, he's a player. Yeah, guys, all right now the Raiders. This will be interesting because Dane in pre draft conversations, we thought the Raiders were gonna take twenty four twenty seven and dance that thing up, you know,
But they're gonna stay there. They're gonna make a pick still. I mean, they got thirty five. They could they could do something crazy. Well, I maybe we'll see where they can't. Mean, they've got picks back to back, So they're gonna pick at twenty four and they're gonna pick at twenty seven. Really let me down here, do you think? So? Yeah, well, just in this like, they're not they're not being crazy. I mean, I guess it's crazy that they took Dane's
sixth best pass rusher fourth overall. But you know I wanted Kyler Murray and Hollywood Hollywood grown. Yeah, that part's not out of the question. If mister Davis was still alive, they would be Hollywood Brown would be on this team him with his cousin. Yeah, exactly. Again, we're looking into the war room at the Ford Center. If you're falling
along with us, again, we just thank everybody. Go ahead, Dave, I'm sorry, no, no, I'm no thank thank every I was gonna thank everybody for joining us starting here on the first night of the draft. Again, we thank all the folks around the United States, but thank the folks that are overseas that it's you know, it's extremely late morning hours. I know you guys got to get up and get work going tomorrow. But we appreciate all the love you give the draft show that give. Dane Dave,
myself and Kim Garrison. We just really appreciate all you guys. Again, the Raiders wrong way here. I mean, nobody in their right mind could have guessed that Sweat would still be there, right. I hope John Gruden takes sweat here. This team needs pass rush desperately, even with Ferrell on the roster, right, Yeah, absolutely like something I would why not? Why not go there? Again?
He's cleared medically, this is this key rush are good enough to start from the get but it's just like them to probably take polite, you know, or somebody like that. Po polite call your somebody like that, you know, nothing against call your but I mean it was sweat there. They know there's teams that clearly have him cleared, but teams didn't don't have it cleared. If you look at the the edge rushers are gone. We expected Bosa and Alan to be gone, but you know, and Dane had Burns.
I didn't Ferrell was a lot higher than I thought he would go. Gary kind of had you know, you know, it was some questions there. So I just don't know how you can. I just don't not look at sweat here, especially if you're a team that needs a defensive end, a edge rusher to make that happen. Josh Jacobs still around first running back off the board. Now they're gonna Yeah, Dave,
if you talk about the Raiders, would Marshawn Lynch is retiring? Yeah? Absolutely, So you know John Alabama and he just kind of sucks all that up. You know, I'm looking is that is that not something you can get at twenty seven? Well? I think yeah, I mean Jacobs, yeah, absolutely could. Who's picking a twenty five Ravens who have been connected the Jacob So they're interesting because it's too like more, you know, who's the Colt's going to take a twenty sixteen. You
usually have a good feel for the Colts. Do you have an idea? I mean, I know we're with the Raiders, but I thought Jeffrey Simmons that was kind of where he was gonna land. Sure that was a further he would fall. Right, what's Chris Bowler gonna do? Yeah, this is your buddy right there, Chris Montes sweat. If they cleared him Montes per pick right there, that would be a great Chris Power pick. Okay, Raiders pick is in. We're waiting for the commissioner to go to the podium.
I didn't talk about the again. War room cam just so really a kind of a quiet night right now. Uh for the Cowboys, they're just very intently watching this draft come to them, uh being involved that Jerry Jones Stephen Jones are not in the room right now. You never know. I think Steven is he is? He is he? Oh, he's flipped back in his chair. Okay, he's away from the Jerry Jones and Jerry Jones is not there. Uh,
Jerry Junior is there. Jerry Jones Junior is there. So yeah, they're just kind of kind of watching this thing roll. Get back into this. Uh maybe you know, we would see something there, but again, now they've gone away from that. The Raiders pick has been in for a while. We're just still waiting for it. We'd like to see them because we're kind of fans of the Raiders. We'd like to see them take sweat. You know, how about offensive Lineman wouldn't be consider those guys. I don't know. They've
got your boy. You got your boy Miller, Colton Miller, Okay, whoever they whoever they were gonna take a twenty four. It is probably better than Colton Miller. Well, they have Miller, and they just they spent a lot of money on what's his name from New England, the left tackle. Okay, Trenton Brown. Trent Brown. Now you're right about that. That's that's me not thinking. Here's a commissioner for twenty nineteen NFL draft. The Oakland Raiders selected Josh Jacob. There we go.
It was it made too much sense? Do we know? Do we not? Yeah? Made way too much sense. Uh. Like Jacobs is the top running back in this draft that wasn't afraid of to catle like Williams fifth overall in two thousand and five, Josh Jacobs is the first running back off the board. I think it makes sense. He's just tapping into his skill set. Versatile, can do everything you want on the football field. The fact that he's not worn down is a positive for me. I
love the tread on the tires. They talk about this man, Mike Mayock. Nobody loves going to Alabama Pro Day more than the Mike Mayock, and I think he eats well. No, Jason Garrett doesn't go. Yeah, Garrett loves Belichick. Bill Belichick loves going there too. So yeah, Josh Jacobs makes a whole lot of sense. It makes the Raiders right here. It makes a ton of sen get a ton of
carrying college. So he's good to go. I mean, and again, for all I know, Sweat is off the Raiders board, But like I, you know, you can find a running back more easily than a game changing pass rusher, can't you. Yeah, So I feel like that this is kind of a deep draft when it comes to which I like Jacobs a lot, and I if I could do this for the Raiders, I would have taken Sweat here and then tried to grab Jacobs at twenty seven. And maybe he's not there, that's the risk of the draft. Well, but
let me tell you this, maybe find another again. If if Dane is if Dane is right about this, If if Dane, if he thinks like the Colts are gonna grab Sweat here, that may grab Jacobs first and grab because it's like Dane says, stay ahead of the Ravens and then turn around and maybe maybe they get an opportunity. If Ballard doesn't take Sweat at at that twenty six, then you know they have an opportunity to grab him here at twenty seven, and they could I just you know, grab.
If they grab Jacobs and then Sweat back to back, then I'm that great job. And I mean, and honestly it's funny, Brian, Well, how would y'all feel about this? Just to I mean, if they wind up with Farrell and Sweat forget which order they were drafted in, Yeah, I mean you could so maybe you could have had Farrell at twenty seven in sight four or whatever. Let's
do again, Josh Jacobs is a selection. Let's me go through the rid of the last three or four selections where Josh Jacobs went nearsy Alabama, went to Oakland, Titus Howard the tackle from Alabama State went to the Houston Texans. Andre dillard At, the tackle from Washington State, went to the Philadelphia Eagles by a trade. Darnel Stabat, a safety from Maryland, went to Green Bay on another trade. No Offant, the Iowa tight end went to Denver. That was a
trade back for Denver with Pittsburgh. Jeffrey Simmons, a very talented defensive tackle from Mississippi State, goes to the Tennessee Titans. And at eighteen overall, Garrett Bradbury the Minnesota Vikings. The Baltimore Ravens are on the clock right now. Dain any thought about what direction that the Ravens will go and then when you after you get done, I want to
play a little game though. We're getting those to where Dallas's pick would have been at twenty seven, and I want to I want to everybody to kind of look at their board too, that they it appears to me that every one of those every one of those safeties that we've talked about, Rap, Abraham Adderley, Garter Johnson, they're all on the board, Thornhill, all those guys are on the board right now form at twenty seven. If in fact they had that pick real quick. I think I
gave him Hollywood Brown in my mock draft. That's still a possibility. I know that, like Eric McCoy the interior offensive linement from A and M center, that's a possibility. Can play guard two for that, Okay, I can play either one and so I think those two positions stand out. Montes sweat again. Could this be the landing spot they could use more pass Rush Hill Amost stunts than Man. It's interesting. I'm I'm thinking about your Cowboys question, Brian.
I'm saying, well, no problem. You know. I pose that question to Twitter this afternoon, and a lot of people made the really good point that without trading for Amari, you're probably picking in much closer to the top of the draft, like between twelve and eighteen. Not only that, but then at the same time, if you don't have amar or if you don't do the trade, then it
changes to wide receivers. So you're probably talking about guys that we're not even looking at, Like, yeah, we're not looking at nikkil Harry, We're not looking at Kim Butler or DK metcalf or A. J. Brown, But they might be me personally. Um, if this was all playing out the same way, and Montez Sweat was there that. I don't care that Lawrence is here. I don't care about Robert Quinn. I'm just drafting him. Would you take one of these corners? I mean they would they wouldn't take
They wouldn't yet, but they wouldn't. I mean, I'm just I'm just throwing it out there. Do those corners fit what they want here? Yeah? Maybe maybe its physical enough to be Richard's guy. See that's Scott rock your sin too, that's true. Yeah, I just forget about him. I just find it interesting that we kind of thought, well, Dan, you didn't think that this safeties. You didn't think it was going to be multiple safeties. You thought maybe one safety,
two safeties in this first round. And really, board right, Savage? That is that is true? Correct me if I'm wrong? No, you're right, Savage. Yeah, if a d if a corner doesn't go here, it'll be the first time since nineteen seventy four that a corner doesn't go in top twenty five, which is crazy, which and I don't expect a corner to go here. Um, but yeah, these dvs, what do we talk about with these deep wide receivers. The order is all over the place in terms of the rankings,
the consensus, there is no consensus. Different teams in different order, and that's why I think teams are willing to wait to get their dB until the second round. The same thing with receiver. Okay, the pick is in for the Baltimore Ravens. We'll see what direction they in fact go after the Ravens. The Colts at one twenty six, Chris Ballard, we think one of the better young general managers in the league. Loved the way that he drafts way builds
his teams. And then after that is the Oakland Raiders at one twenty seven, the Los Angeles Charge at one twenty eight, and then the Seattle Seahawks at one twenty nine. If they don't, that's a pick that they obtained from the Kansas City Chiefs, uh for for their the tackle. Frank Clark. Frank Clark, Yes, in a mythical world where the Cowboys have picked twenty seven, you could talk me into drafting Cody Forward too as a future play. Wow,
you like that idea. They're Dane Cody Foyds there if the right tackle situation the way it is, Yeah, I gladly take it. I don't know how much am I trading up for that? No, no, it's what I'm saying. If if the Cowboys had twenty seven, got you? Yeah, yes, yes, I mean I'd be okay with that. I rather have Monte Sweat, though, I agree. Well, let's see what the Ravens do. The commissioner is common the podium with the Ravens picker with the pick in the two thye l driver,
the Baltimore Ravens select Mark's brown. Good job, Dan Burglar once again twenty two and heck they get a chance of trade back three spots and still get them. So good work with a Raven. And I said he would be the first wide receiver, all right. In my in my we say we want to get past twenty five. There you go, there you go. I don't think I'm
gonna well. I cheated on that one, actually, because Dan Burglar convinced me this morning missed with philadelp Us in the draft show, because Dan Burglar will throw it every once in a while, get you kind of you know, thinking, wait a minute, this guy's got too much speed. He's too explosive, you know, and and he is u the Ravens. I mean you look at the quarterback situation there with the Ravens though with Lamar Jackson though, man, you get him and get him thrown more. Wig those guys see
what they can get him. Get that. This is just speed speed speed with this care but he makes plays. He makes plays all over the field. So you have to be happy about that that guy. If you're a Baltimore Ravens fan, I'm happy he's not in Philadelphia. And I think if you're Antonio Brown, um, you know bad below the Steelers, he's happy to see this dance to the former team and the AFC North. Yeah, that's a
that's a really really good point. So okay, that was the very first wide receiver that was a bold prediction by Brian brought us. That means though he owes Dane Brugler steak dinner because not a third person talking going on over there. It's that's what I do, Dave in the draft, that Dave me that that this kid would be the first wide receiver taken off the board. So Dan, you said the Redskins would get Haskins, and Brian you said that the people ignore the trade, will ignore the trade.
Ark I mean you still you got the pick, right, You said that Brown would be the first half the board, so ignore that he said to the Eagles. So Drew Locke has got to be a raider for me to hit mine. So I'll like the bold move though, like the bold conversation, I get caught up in what I want instead of what's actually going to happen. You know, Yeah, you can do it all the time. You used to eyes though, Dane, and I said this, are you surprised that none of these corners have gone were the league?
And yeah? Somebody, yeah, you don't. You gotta cover guys, right, That's what I'm saying. I'm a little surprised because it is a passing league, and you know, it's it is a surprise that none of these corners are off the board. But I think it speaks to this corner class a lot of questions about all these guys buyer and greedy brock us in we got movement guys. Yeah, Washington Red.
Now they're coming up from the second round. Yeah, and they are not what they are Okay, Okay, the car are deep in the second round, so they're coming up from pick forty six. Okay, let's see what this tight is that right, let's see what we got here on the trade. Let's see what we got a third Let's see six picked to the Redskins. The Redskins in fact, are sending a second round. They're they're giving them this choice of gim is selection forty six and a twenty
twenty second round. In a twenty twenty second round pick, Ballard getting some more picks. Um, that's a that's a thank you at some kids. Someone do the math on that. That's a that's getting killed, isn't it that it's hard with future picks to do the math? Well? But yeah, a second round pick is like saying it's a third round pick. I mean, if you think of it's you think I have to think about a round less, right, It's what you have to do there. So at some
point just take a good player. I mean, that's a twenty four potential for This is for Mantes sweat. This is a fleecing for for the for the Red red Skins. Yeah, you are ripping I think, and I think the world of Chris Ballard. So like I I'm shocked and hesitant to say this. Well as you go up and get but just trying to think out. I mean, unless they felt good about Jawan Taylor. He's got a knee, but maybe they felt okay with him. Juwan Taylor, you got
Montes Sweat. They don't need a quarterback Cody Ford, Fi Murphy, Greedy, Williams Rock Are you trade enough for one of these corners? No, it has to be Sweat, And I think that makes too much sense as long as again, this is the hard issue. Have has Washington changed their scheme? Are they still a three four? Can Sweat do three four things?
I think so? Yeah? Okay, the type of athlete that he is, Absolutely this is this is in like, this is such a massive win for Washington if they are getting I mean, I a guy that I think is one of the ten best prospects in this draft at pick twenty six and they're only giving up next year's second. I thought I thought they were given up next year's first. Yeah, I was just gonna think it for a twenty port for a twenty spot Gaskins and then give up the
future first they go back in. But yeah, Montes Sweater Juan Taylor at the injury guys, is the draft cam is not on? No? But if that is the pick. Jerry Jones is just gonna have to be seething that it was. Daniel Snyder, Wait, what happened? If you're telling me that you could have gone from from now, maybe you couldn't have gotten the Colts to go all the way to forty six? I mean, are you could have
gotten it's another twelve spots. But a man that get to kick something in that is just not a steep price. That is not a steep price to pay for something. If if you do the math, if you kicked in like this year's three ninety and then give him next year's two, see, that's still that's still steep, because then you get Montes sweat and then you don't pick again until Saturday. But yeah, but which does want talked about
this point? But like I say, it's a it's a twenty point drop, and I'm too locked in doing this. Let me think, Okay, this is twenty six is worth Okay, let's do it real quick, Dave, twenty six is worth seven hundred points. Okay, forty six is worth four forty yep. So that's a two. Actually pick sixty six in the top of the third round. That's the points, right, there, right, So they're not. I mean, I I that's a totally fair price to pay. Yeah, that's a that I'll do
that in my sleep. Yeah, and Washington still has Yeah, they've got picked ninety six, so they're still gonna have stuff to do on Friday, Yeah they will. Okay, but we think we think this pick is sweat though. Do you do we all agree on that? Yeah? I mean you don't you make a move like that to get an impact player. And Taylor's knee montha sweating again with montha sweat, it's not just I mean, he has some character stuff in his background too, so he had to
account for that. It's interesting, it's an interesting fit. Yeah. I typically you can typically count on Twitter to leak these picks to you, but I don't see anything yet, nothing, nothing being leaked. I just think the big price to have to pay, no to go make a move to get back in the first rounds, not at all. And now they've they've got him on a fifth year, five year contract too. Sure. Oh yeah, they're not showing the war room right now. That way, that would be something
that yeah, they just make get the second round. The Colts get a second round pick, which is forty six and then a twenty twenty second round pick. So maybe the Colts feel like though that that twenty twenty pick is going to be you know, if the if the Redskins don't do well, that maybe that's a higher second round pick that pick was made. So I mean, or that pick was was traded for that. Okay, here's the commissioner,
good Redskins pick. Here we go. Teammate is the Indianapolis Colts have traded the twenty six pick to the Washington Redskins and with a twenty six pick in the two thy nineteen sweat linebacker Mississippi State. Wow wow, wow, good call right there, Dane, you want to give us a little scouting your port amantes sweat long Lean gets after the quarterback, the guy that double digit sacks the last
two years in the SEC. There were some character concerns in terms of maybe said nice things about them, but still those character con terms are there. And then the hard issue was fled to the combine and large heart. Some teams okay with it, some teams not. Obviously the Redskins were okay, and he probably goes fifteen if Haskins is off the board, right, But here he is available late first round and an impact pass rusher. I like it.
It's a smart move by them. David helm me. Anything to add to that, I'm I'm I'm in shock that that's all it took to get that high and that Washington added your seventh best player to the defensive front that already has Kerrigan, Alan and Payne every time, Like, I mean, he's not yeah, he's a he's a he's a good part of rotation player. Look at the Giants had the sixth and seventeenth picks, the Redskins had the fifteenth and what twenty six picks? Right? Which two players
would you rather? Which pays no question? I feel better about the Redskins have the Giants that I'm hearing like you know this this all these words describing you know, all these teams don't know what they're doing, and all this and that and the other, and the look at the Redskins. Oh, Daniel Snyder, he's taken over the first round. They got two quality players in and out of that whole thing. So if you're getting better, you know, we'll see about the Giants. But I feel better about the
two players that they got. Uh. Then again, but I also want again I've talked about this as well, if you want to do a little bit more research on the heart condition of montes Weet. You know, he does have something called again you can look up the it's h OCM. There's really a medical terms for it. I'm sure you can google that, and it has to do with the measurement of the heart. He happens to be in the bottom quarter of that, so they call it.
It's very similar to what Hurst had from. So if you're interested, if you're a Redskin fan and you want to look it up. Obviously, some teams had him off the board. The Redskins felt like that they can make a get back in the round and then take a player that is nobody I thought had a better scenior. He had a great senior year, but he do go there. He went to the senior you know, something holding him back was the heart condition. Oh, which that stuff doesn't
come out. You can't convince me he's not a top ten absolutely absolutely, I'm you know, this happens every year. A couple of things happen every year that take you two or three picks to get over, you know what I mean. Yeah, And that's that's what's happening for me right now. Um, Like Daniel Snyder, I doubt he was thinking about Jerry Jones when he did it, But you know, people were like, what's it gonna take. What's it gonna take for Jerry to get wild and jump up there?
And to be fair, it's a it's a whole twelve spots. That's a lot of draft capital. But yeah, the Redskins just jumped twenty spots back in the first and they made a drop that far. So why doesn't Matt Everflus want a badass pass rusher? I, Well, it's not Matt Everflus's call. But like, what but at some point we were just a good player. We were talking about safeties there too, weren't we daging a little bit? Were we talking about safeties? And we're talking about abram as a
pop in? This is the pick that originally was owned by the Dallas Cowboys. Uh so they're they're discussing it right now, you know, Yeah, this is the Cowboys pick. Yeah, we need to focus on it. But the Colts like, what did the call? Let's get out of that. They have pick forty six and then next year they'll get a pick from it. I mean they have because they had they picked really early in the second round. Yeah, so I think they felt confident that you know who
they're gonna get. A forty six is not a big difference from you know who you're getting there in the lake. First. Okay, here's the commissioner. He's going to the podium. Now this we'll see what happens here. I think he's making his way. He's bringing Nope, maybe now I thought he's bringing some folks with him. Oakland Raider's gonna make this pick one twenty seven. We're the twenty seventh pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft. The Oakland Raiders select Jonathan Abram.
Here your Raiders, Nathan Abram. The hits keep coming man late, which lay around. We knew Jonathan Abram wasn't gonna be a cowboy, but this is a guy that they absolutely covet thumper, high care character guy. I know for a fact Jason Garrett is enamored with this guy. Sure, um he's you know, he's say culture, but he's one of those super accountable team leaders. He's gonna make your locker
room better. Uh down safety, which is what they keep saying they're looking for Yeah, I think this they would be making this pick at twenty seven if they were, if they owned this pick, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I think the head coach and the staff and all that. But he impressed Lindsey Draper, she was talking about this morning on the show. He came in the turtleneck, the jacket,
you know, all that, very confident football player. Uh. If you're the Oakland Raiders, I mean I've given the that's that's kind of I can say that's our football and that will be the second second safety that is taken off the board. So you have Savage who went earlier to the g A Bay Packers at one twenty one, and then Jonathan Abram goes to the Raiders at the game. That leaves Adderley, who we kind of thought might be
a potential bottom of the first round guy. Maybe this might be a little run now, Dane, you think on this on the safeties, we have the Chargers, uh here, Seattle here, and then uh back so at Seattle at twenty nine and thirty. Do we see Drew Lockoman off the board tonight? Do we see a team maybe trading back up into the first you get that fifth your option. Is that possible? God? The Patriots take him at thirty ten. Yeah, but see that, yeah, exactly exactly. That's that's that's a
that's a really good call right there. I don't think teams are willing to make the option. You have to really and the Colt the Colts clearly didn't care. But you know, if you're gonna get me to come out of that out of that pick, I'm gonna have to have something pretty significant to do that to give up at fifth year option. So again, the Chargers, we're gonna go Chart Baine thirty and then the Rams at thirty one. Let me reset for you what we've had so far.
If you're listening and you just just now joining us. Jonathan Abrahm, the safety from Mississippi State, goes to the Raiders. Montes Sweat, another Mississippi State player goes to the Washington Redskins. By the way, guys, they listed him as a lineback. Hollywood Brown Marcus Brown, wide receiver from Oklahoma, goes to the Baltimore Ravens at one twenty five. At one twenty four, the Raiders take the very talented Alabama running back Josh Jacobs,
Titus Howard, a little bit of a surprise. The tackle for Alabama State goes to the Houston Texans, with the tackle from Washington State goes to the Philadelphiagles on a trade up, and as I mentioned, Darnell Savage, the safety from Maryland goes to Green Bay. Noah Fant the tight end from Iowa goes to the Lebroncos at one twenty. So that leaves again the Los Angeles Chargers. Uh, that I really love absolutely. You know I have a I have a soft spot in my heart for Mississippi State.
You did, you went down there and spent some time, went down there. Dak Prescott and his fan base helped Kent Garrison and myself went an emmy. So check this out. Players taken off the board Christ Nope, who else has three Missisippi State Mississippi State bull Dog. It'd be Jeffrey Simmons little All State. Yeah, Jeffrey Phille. Jeffrey Simmons at Tennessee at one nineteen. Then it's a back to backs. It's the Washington Redskins at one twenty six with Montes
sweat and then the Oakland Raiders. You're not surprised No, not at all, not at all. Okay, any thought staying about the Chargers and maybe what direction they might go here atterally would make sense that free safety, that they maybe maybe the run of the state. He's might be right about that, right, Um, they could use offensive line help Caleb McGarry on the forefront because I think medical condition there as well our procedure in fourteen and fifteen, right,
and that's been well documented. That's something that you know, wasn't breaking news, like we knew about that. And hopefully he's good to go. I mean, he's you know, it's not something that I think teams are too worried about. Um, but there's the last few picks. Are we gonna see any more receivers off the board? Seattle will be interesting. Yeah, we know they could go receiver Paris Campbell A J. Brown A J. Brown, Yeah, you were talking about him,
so receivers. And then I come back to Drew Locke. Yeah, I'm kind of liking what you're saying here. I really am Rivers is good for the game. They're gonna have to make a decision here about this quarterback here pretty soon, right, And if Locke, you know a lot of people like Locke. I mean, I tell you what he's he's you know, he's I had career over him, but I think that you know, with there's things there. Another shout out to
my man Kent Garrison. Obviously, the Cowboys didn't make a pick, but Kent made a really great spoof video where they quote unquote picked Marii Cooper at twenty seven. It's on Twitter. I highly recommend you check it out. It's pretty funny. Well, yeah, Ken Garrison does a lot of great going to remind you about what we got going on. The crawl on the bottom that's at the at the hashtag Cowboy Draft. I'm seeing a lot of comments since its who do
you think falls to them? At knowing what we know? Now? Yeah? Who question? At the end of the day, has anything really changed for the Cowboys? I mean Savage was surprising, right right? Has anything drastically changed for the landscape of the Cowboys pick? Everyone that's been picked is somebody we expected to be picked. I shouldn't say I didn't have I didn't have Titus Howard. I had him as a third round guy. Farrell I had as a second round guy Farrell, but not that high. I didn't have him
as I didn't have him going where he went. Savage is my fifth number fifty eight overall player. All right, KNT Kimischer's standing at that podium for you. We're in the twenty nineteen l draft. Notre Dame. Jerry Tillery interesting name, Yes, interesting because I think as a talent, he's arguably a top fifteen talent in this class. I just had to be comfortable with the person and of Montes sweat with a couple of the other other guys just talking about
their comfort level. Jerry Tillery's no different um in terms of comfort I mean different. He's uh, you know, teams are worried about him for different reasons. Sure, but hey, you watched the Stanford game. It's hard not to get excited about. Yeah. No, you're right about that. I really really do the thing about again. You started scaring me with all the off the field stuff, Dame. Well, there's
a reason we're talking about him now. I mean, I think, yeah, you know, but this guy's got some initial quickness off the snap for his height, you know, six point stands on the block or chasing down the line of scrimmage. You know, I don't think he's ever gonna have huge sack numbers, but I have the feeling he's gonna have
the ability to push the pocket a little bit. That's kind of how I see Jerry Tillery from Notre Dame uh play in in in the National Football Like again, Dave, did you were you surprise they didn't take quarterback there where you can eat humor me there? And I was trying to get him to take a quarterback hit. I don't know, like I know, you know you can't. What's the overn under of these quarterbacks? So we was Vegas line three and a half. Yeah, oh wait, they don't
have that pick. This is Seattle going back to back here, twenty nine and thirty are gonna be Seattle's pick Rams at thirty one, and then the Patriots are gonna end the first round at thirty two. Basically, do the Patriots state Drew lock or do we have a team that trades up into the back half teams? Are you gotta? I think you as as I say, somebody Patriots willing to get rid of their fifth year option if somebody
gives them a sweet deal. I don't think the fifth year options as big of a deal to us if you're getting I mean, if you're getting decent return on value, I mean you know, obviously the Colt obviously the Colts you probably just got with the Yeah, yeah, okay, I
think it's definitely surprising. I think it just goes to show that once we get past the top fifteen, top twenty picks, they're just these guys are jumbled together, and they the Colts must not have felt strongly about any of their options, because yeah, I mean, if you're the Redskins, how do you even start with that? Off? Somebody tweeted me and was like, well, sometimes a pace to just call and ask, right, Yeah, that's insane. Like I imagine
you were shocked. I mean you you were shocked, but because you thought that Dallas could have jumped back in doing that, well not maybe not from fifty eight. I mean again that's all spots eight ninety and next year's two might have done it. Yeah, but again then you're done. I mean then you got no more picks until Saturday, where, like I said, the beauty of Washington's trade is they still pick twice tomorrow. Yeah, they're still even having gotten
rid of their second They've got two picks tomorrow. Where if the Cowboys do that deal, Well, whoever made that call for Washington had to have been shocked. Bruce Allen, the pretty girl across the room, Yeah, she might say yes, shoots shoot exactly. Uti Campbell might have made that call the player personnel guy there. I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions, but try to try to make your team better for Philip Rivers, like you had a pretty damn good team last year. Help Philip ript I
mean he's got to stadium after next year too. You know that kind of thing that I know, a future problem, but just help, yeah, help help. You know what would help the Chargers if they won a Super Bowl? And so, okay, as we as we speak right now, the Seattle Seahawks, they're back to back here, they're gonna again. They're gonna go, They're gonna go twenty nine. This is a pick they got from Kansas City for the Frank Clark trade. Am
I right about that? David Hellman, Sure, it's okay. So this pick initially belonged to Kansas City, now to Seattle. So Cody Ford's still on the board, right, Yeah, that's surprising. Joan Taylor too, Joan Taylor because he is a knee. His knee was flagged by a lot of teams. Cody Ford. I haven't heard a any injury stuff medical stuff, right,
so I don't know. I really liked him. Sorry available then for some of these teams, can you kind of go through that and and give me an idea some of your best available guys, John Taylor, Cody four to the top obviously again Taylor because the knee Byron Murphy and Greedy Williams. Next talk two corners on my board to see her adderlie from Delaware. Uh, and then we start talking about the receivers from Texas, A and M who could come off the board here in a few picks.
And then Drew Locke. So some names that some people, there's some people that are doing some wagering that are hoping for Drew Locke to go at one point in time here, huh be over on three and a half quarters, over and under on three and a half quarterbacks? Is just I'm hoping we get an John Snyder if you're if you well, the NFL network is showing my old intern John Snyder's leaning over the table on the phone. So see wearing a Championship Wrestling belt. He's favorite one.
He's he does when he takes off his shirt, and that's John He's a mess anyway, Okay, anyway, jump at him any night. That So, hopefully we'll get them to make those picks, and then again that will carry us. That will carry us down to the two teams that participate in the Super Bowl. That would be the Los Angeles Rams at thirty one and then the New England Patriots, the Super Bowl champions. That the night thought, Yeah, but there's been some some of those wild picks. It's been
a couple of wild picks for me. It's been weird in its own way. Maybe we overhyped it. Oh I'm a I'm a hype machine. Yeah it's true. Yeah, I'm a hype machine this stuff. But yeah, I thought we would see I thought we'd see that. The Raiders, you know, they kind of trade up. Was Pittsburgh. Dane called that one. This was all about Devin Bush, him going up. So yeah, maybe maybe tomorrow will be a little bit of a
different story. Maybe tomorrow will wake up and they'll start talking about, oh, they traded, you know, Josh Rosen got traded. Reliable that morning Yeah, Jason Witton retired Friday morning of last year's draft, right, so yeah, who knows. Well, we're again, We're still the Seahawks. They're at twenty nine and thirty. I keep talking about that, they're gonna John's probably gonna take his full time here and then just go to this thing back to back to try to trade back
one of these one of these two picks. We'll get more picks. Yeah, he could try and trade back. Maybe somebody wants to come up. Like you said, Dane, you kind of floated the idea about somebody coming for a quarterback you didn't feel like the fifth year option. I know he traded back in the draft one year with Yeah, he traded back in the John traded back in the round to get Affetti and get that fifth year option.
So maybe he's trying to work with another team to you know, I I if and I respect no, no, I respect what you said. David. I'm one of those guys that I think it's look like it's Stanford, it's bottom. Another year with Ezekiel Elliott. You know, it's it's it's ball, it's big. I need a bigger money. We're talking about a top ten player or like, you know, there's a little bit of difference there. Paris Campbell another you know, talk in Seattle. That's what we need to think about
right now here. Let's let's talk about the Seattle. Every pull out their their trusty notebooks here and let's let's let's try and figure this thing out. For the Seahawks, it back to back and what they've got. K Harry Harry, Yeah, John, that'd be a great thrill for him. They did visit, they did visit Savage, they had they brought in Thornhill as well. So about l J. Collier. L J. Collier, that's that's a name. Yeah, Yeah, I'm on Trust the tape this morning. Jeff and I put him in the
first round in our mock draft. So did you. Yeah, we're still waiting. What's going on. I mean, there's either a trade or a pick needs to be in because the clock ran out. Well, he's got back to back, so he's not having to worry about anybody jumping him or anything like that. True, so he can start the clock on pick thirty. Then well he's he's I mean, come on, I'll probably have all right, we gotta finish
this thing out strong. David, you know how to goes. Yeah, you're right, you work out, take a sip of water. We'll be all right, right, Dane, feel tough about this right now, but yeah, I let me ask you this. Though we didn't think we thought there would be some chaos up there in the in the draft though. Oh sure, well seven seven trades am I yeah, Pitts well, no, Pittsburgh and Denver Green Bay in Seattle to Baltimore and Philly, Washington. So four, I'm sorry seven. I can't count four, and
there's still room for one more. But it sounds like we're gonna Yeah, here's here's what's uh that Seattle is to hold up. I'm getting some good information from Kent Garrison produced on the fly. Seattle is taking calls on lock right now. So good information from Kent Garrison there. And we appreciate all the health that name was talking about.
That could somebody be trading back in to this drag if you're if you're taking, if you're going to trade out it, I think it has to be for that quarterback right when that when that makes make the most sense. So again we appreciate that's something we got to figure out. Okay, let's look at the back of the that might be it might be interested. You got Okay, this is gonna sound crazy, but you got Oakland at thirty five. Who
do they want? Well, that's what I'm saying. Could they go for lock here, Could Oakland be the could Oakland be Okay? The picks in Yeah, Buffalo or excuse me? Denver at forty one talked right as one of the defensive ends. Ye is there any other defensive ends that we really really like in this thing? We talked about polite, not with this particular, but he's a defensive end. Call your Maybe they didn't get what they wanted with the Again, we appreciate the insight thought in the wor room there
at Seattle. But maybe what I mean okay, no, no, I'm just saying I said his name instead of mind. No, that's that's kind of a that's kind of a John that that makes a lot of sense. You know, they they they lost, you know, they traded away you know, Frank Clark, So that's they. They like doing that stuff too. They drafted Clark. There was another one too. I mean they I mean, pass Rush as much credit as the Legion of Boom gets their pass rush during that era
was pretty fantastic as well. So okay, so here we go. I'm getting some information. Now Seattle's gonna make the pick and then the Giants. So the Giants in thirty seven. Let's see if the if in fact, there is a trade that's we can we can talk about. Okay, here's the Giants, here's the Giants. Okay, the Giants are coming from They're coming from thirty seven, right, They're going to They're going to Seattle's pick the sea. The Giants have given Seattle. Nick goes to Seattle. I could switch my
pages fast enough to Seattle. They also get one forty two. That's another pick that the forty nine that originally was the forty nine ers pick. So one forty two Seattle gives the Giants the thirtieth overall pick. The Seattle falls the thirty seven. They get thirty seven, one, thirty two and one forty two this draft. So let's see, Seattle was gonna make a pick at twenty nine, and now the pick Giant here all that. Seriously, that's a lot you want to you want to want to hear it again.
It's thirty seven, one thirty two one forty two. Right cool, So yeah, I got it. Yep um. So that's mid neither calculator. No, that's late fourth round and early. I know. We're the twenty ninth pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft. The Seattle Seahawks select L. J. Collier. Okay, good job, David Hellman, good job of picking that one up. Okay.
So now that's that's the this. You know, when you watch him on tape, initially you don't get wowed, But the more you watch him, he just grows on you because he plays some flexibility, has heavy hands, He'll go through you, through blockers. Uh. I think he offers versatility as both a pass rusher and a run stopper. Kind of a one year wonder, only a one year okay, So you know watching him, watching him rush, he's got some ben to him. He's got that ability to capture
the edge. Okay, the Giants are now. The Giants selection is going to be in not wasting any time. They're not wasting any time. And when you make that trigger, Bay, now the Giants own it. The Giants we talked about the trade. They they send Seattle drops to thirty seven. They get one thirty two and one forty two out of this out of this trade. So here goes to the commissioner, Ken Garrison, take it away. We're using the pick they got for Clark. In the two thousand nineteen
NFL draft, the New York Giants select DeAndre Baker. There you go first off the board. Uh, let me tell you about that first corner off the board, absolutely, sir, the way Uh, the cornerback from Georgia. Dan, you want me to carry that one? Are you? What? Are you interesting on him? All right, let me get to him, Dave. You want to say anything about him? You watched him against your guy Deebo Samuel, I want to hear you more than I want to hear him. You want to
hear me more than Okay, well i'll give you. I'll give you a lot. On tape, he's he's one of those guys that you know when you watch him play, I mean watching him walk up here. But man, on tape, he looks physically bigger. He's got he's a long arm player. He's not afraid to mix it up with receivers. He has a feel for how to use that sideline to squeeze those receivers. Out of bounds. He's he's got off the field. He's got some reactions to the football. I
really like it when he drives on the football. When he sees it, he is frigging gonna go get it, and he keeps his eyes on the quarterback. He's quick footed. I think he's a little bit of a bully the way he plays. So he'll fight through the trash to get to his man. Reacts well on his own. He will corner. That will be and in the you know, as these teams developed wide receivers, that's a DeAndre Baker you're gonna have to deal with. Not to pick you
up or not to cut you off. We got another trade, Okay, we might actually hit the over. The Falcons are trading into spot thirty one. Okay, so let me check. Okay thirty one, and the Rams also sent them pick two oh three, which is a late sixth round pick. In exchange, the Falcons gave up forty five, which is mid second, and also pick seventy nine. Is I mean they're giving up their their two big picks on day. Yes, they gave up a second and a third. They give their
second to the third. They give up forty five and seventy nine in return for thirty one and two oh three. Are the people like enough to do this deal for maybe soon? Barn Murphy, I'm I'm I'm I'm liking everything. They need line help, right, defensive line. Yeah, they went offensive line so they could do some defensive They did well. They yeah, you're right, they did. Okay, guard I was gonna Cody Ford. I mean you know again that's the first corner. Uh, DeAndre Baker from Georgia. He goes off
the field again. They're reshowing the trade the Giants and Seahawks thirty seven, one, thirty two and one forty two. Uh, the Seahawks get from the Giants and pick overall. They said two oh three along with the trade. Okay for for the record, so the Falcons. The Falcons went from forty five to thirty one. There you go. How many spots is that? Fourteen fourteen? They paid a much steeper price than than than what the thing to the podium. The Los Angeles Rams have traded the thirty first pick
to the Atlanta Falcons. With a thirty first pick in the two thousand nineteen NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Caleb McGarry position right, just not the player. So they're just doing a little O line revamp right here. Hickwell guard and Caleb McGarry is the guy that I don't know, I didn't necessarily see a first round pick. Yeah, team, it seemed like NFL teams liked them a lot more than I did when I watched him. Oh you can talk about that with me too. I had him in
the fourth round. I wasn't a huge fan, but there are a lot of NFL teams that did like him. Well, McGarry if you want to know too, he's got a heart condition, folks does in two thousand fort in fifteen he had he had a condition that had to be fixed. So it looks like that I think that teams were looking at a little bit. I think that, you know, I look at the Falcons right there, Uh, you know,
Tom to Mitchell off. Everybody's clapping, everybody's happy about McGarry, and I'm just wondering about the guys like Ford and Taylor. You talk about Taylor, you know with the knee and stead and what cayleb McGary, but he was one of those guys, Dan, you were talking about that one basically the blocker the PAC twelve Blocker of the Year Award, the Morris Trophy, and we had voted on by defensive lineman in the conference and they chose Kayla McGarry over
Andrey Dillard and some other talented tackles. Pick in the first round it would be the New England Patriots. Uh, they are on the clock. There's five minutes left in their pick. Uh Patrio. It's they're They're one of those unique teams. They can kind of go anywhere. They really don't. They don't follow anybody back to where they want. Maybe this could be a corner. I have a feeling that they're gonna they're gonna look at one of these corners.
I have a feeling. I mean I was hearing maybe offensive line help and then cornerback with the two kind of needs that I was that I was help you with that one. That one. How did you know that one wasn't on my sheet? Yeah, that's kind of one of those you know things. But the thing that the thing to me is you got to look at the guard. Yeah, you gotta look at the potential offensive lineman corners and those types of things. So I think that you talked
about the corners. We talked about Murphy, we talked about Greedy Williams. Rock your Sin. Kind of a tough guy, right, Dan, I mean, wouldn't you get physical physical guy gets the best corner in this class with us back to the ball. I wonder if they would go linebacker here, Mack Wilson. You know Garrett, I mean Garrett, Uh yeah, I called Alabama? Is that something that we need to maybe think about there? I mean about bunting the corner from uh did you
did you mess up Garrett and Belichick? Because Belichick's the only guy that loves Alabama players more than Jason Garrett. Well, that's what I'm saying. I loves him some Alabama, That's what I'm saying. Pride or pride, pride. I love Pritte and it's one of my favorite guys in this draft. You should like him too. How about Adderlie, I don't like him. I just don't think you have to take him at thirty two. Okay, I'm if you take them
to thirty two, I'd be really happy about this. If we we kind of look at no chance they pull the uh the sense that they did this right now? You know, I mean, anything's possible with them, and like for some reason, well, yeah, the Chargers drafting a quarterback would bother me because like, go try to win a super Bowl. Patriots, it's like whatever, you're gonna be in the game anyway, do whatever the hell you want. Cowboys do play thee now, Okay, and a bunch of people
that Louisiana. Yeah, so but the Patriots, I you know, when you think that you have a beat on what the Patriots are gonna do, they really you really don't. You're wrong, you really don't. You're wrong. And so but I do the cornerback where kind of the couple of guys that that we would maybe see there. Okay, as we kind of as the Patriots time winds down and we focus a little bit on tomorrow, I know we're gonna have a chance to kind of uh uh, kind
of take a peek at this one. At the end of this again, the picks in the Cowboys were willing to kind of make a move up. We talked about maybe the draft would start for them at forty one. I mean, you know, if we can deal with the Colts, we can get wherever the hell we want to. Cults are picking at cults are picking at forty six now, so you can jump up twelve picks. Maybe they're gonna look at their board, they're gonna re reevaluate where they're at. I think they have to feel good that I've only
got two safeties off that board. That would be Abram and Savage both if in fact that's something a direction they want to go. Adderley's there. The guys are gone, and they're both guys that I don't think they're surprised to see leave Abram Abram and um and call your yeah so and I'm you know, Jeffrey Simmons. We saw that coming. Maybe he was a guy they would have been interested in. But that's okay. So yeah, it's gonna be interesting, like I don't practically tomorrow, okay, so the
pay Here we go. Christ is walking the scene to the podium for the last pick of the first round with the thirty second pick in the two thousand nine NFL draft. Didn't New England Patriots select the kill Harry? Interesting? You know what's funny too, is Harry Arizona state guy. So you would assume he's got a relationship with the Cardinals. He said yesterday, he was like, I'm not going past thirty.
He's like, I'm not going past thirty three. So Patriots were like, oh really, yeah, get around and then I we had Harry in the top of the third. Is that kind of how you feel about about Harry the Skyner report on him. Yeah, I mean, this guy is not going to separate consistently, but he's comfortable with DB's on his hip. He's very physical and I think his best position is probably is a inside to get the football.
I didn't see a lot of quickness for the double moves and things like that, but I mean still this guy, he'll catch the ball inside. He could just the ball high over his head. He goes in traffic, he finds space. The quarterback doesn't always help him good luck. Because we were in Seattle for that regular season game. Then they played up there at the Washington's Stadium, so yeah, and I mean the Arizona State's passing game is you know, watching the tape on this guy, though, I kind of felt, here,
go up there and play. Guy plays beyond the sticks, so catching on the move things tend to happen with the ball in his hand. So uh, we'll see him and how he had just in New England. So okay, we're nearing the top of the hour. I'm going to close. His cowboys will be involved, we think, and picking players tomorrow. And we think, we think, we hope that they will
be involved picking players tomorrow. So what do you think again, just a little quick assessment of the first round and then what you maybe think is going to happen in the second round. You kind of touched on it is right, and then didn't lose anybody that you're shocked to see them lose. Um, And now for me, it's just about looking at the teams in front of them, trying to identify like, okay, who are your targets and who are
your targeted players and where are the trouble spot? But to even higher up the board, UM, teams that need safeties, teams that need defensive linement, Like that's that's what we're gonna be able to look out for. And honestly, I'm going to spend tonight and tomorrow morning cross checking needs with teams and say, okay, these are teams all through the these corners. I appreciate that I will do that. Dan Burglar, the thoughts on the first round, thoughts of
what maybe we can have happened tomorrow in the second round. Well, Juan Taylor's out there, interesting where he falls with that knee issue. M Cody Ford surprising, he's still there. But it's gonna be Sean Bunting, justin Lane, A lot of these dbs are still available, really good players. Then it receiver AJ Brown, both old Miss players DJ DK Metcalf AJ Brown. H So I think we're gonna see those three positions, uh kind of dominate the early half of
that second round. That something that the Cowboys look at a trade up scenario. You know, I think, as I look at this the way it shakes out, you're you're right. I've got Murphy left, Greedy Williams left, Yes, sin all
first round players on my board, Bunting, Lane, and Joan Williams. Okay, what if all those corps pickbacks along the way, Well, then if they're interested in Adderley and Garter, Johnson and Rapp and those guys Thornhill, you know, I think that kind of bodes well that you have a pretty pretty solid group of quarterbacks, six quarterbacks that are left on that board. You know, the Cowboys might actually have somebody that gets to them that they really really like a
lot of the thirty visits. How many of them are gone? Abram Collier, right, I think that's the time. Yes, that's so far, that's it. So I'm they're right where. You know, did I think Collier would go in the first round? Not necessarily for Abram too, but I thought they'd be gone by fifty eight and ultimately that's all that matters. So it's, you know, a reset, Like I said, pretty early tomorrow, you would imagine Byron Murphy and Greedy Williams
will go pretty quickly tomorrow. Um, there's still quarterbacks, so yeah, the names kind of start to stack up, so there's reason for confidence, but it's it's still gonna be a long wait. Okay stuff. The draft opens up tomorrow at six pm Central Time. That's when the we'll start the second round. We'll be on television at five pm Central. We'll go from five to five thirty. We'll have your draft coverage starting the rounds two. N Hellman, Ken Garrison,
I'm Brian Braus. Thank you to everybody that's been a part of this one tonight. Thank you everybody out there across the country and around the world. We love you guys, and we'll see tomorrow for Day two of the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, presented by Millie
