2018 Draft Day LIVE: Round 1

Dramatic words of wisdom from somebody who was Thomas Paine last year. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I couldn't wait for to night just for that. You like that, you like that high open these drafts? All right, all right, let's go home. We're done for the night. Yes, you do have the Draft Show presented by Miller Ltte. It is the twenty eighteen NFL Drafts. I'm so happy to be with my scouting buddies who've made this journey with me, uh since really December and then we started doing these

shows in January to get to these days. Don't sell Dane short. You know I'm looking at I know, I know, but I'm just talking about our little group, our little our little band of scouts, our little Scouting department here has done, I think a great job of putting together some boards, some ideas, uh you know, maybe where some of these guys are gonna go. We're gonna have a lot of fun doing this for the next three days.

So I'm really happy that everybody's out there with us. Uh, guys, if you dive into this thing right off the bat, and again we're we're about, you know, twenty three minutes away from getting really involved with this. When you when you look at things that have happened earlier, some of the things that we're starting to hear, and we kind of thought all along, okay, the quarterbacks, where the quarterbacks gonna go? What what place are they gonna be? Where?

You know, how's this draft gonna be shaped? And allustin you get the news of Baker Mayfield is going off potentially is the first overall pick. And I and I can't think that we ever really talked about Baker Mayfield being the first overall pick or potentially not being the first overall pick, not once, not never, and I don't know that it's because of anything necessarily with Baker Mayfield, right, we were just so locked into Sam Darnold right as being.

I mean, we talked a little bit about Josh Allen when those rumors started to heat up. I don't think we ever took those two seriously, But we locked in on Sam Darnold so much that you know, we didn't we didn't really talk that much about Baker, like you said, Yeah, and that's my buddy John Dorsey up there in Cleveland, and he's kept this pick pretty quiet. Yeah, and that's that's what he's always done. And he's always done that. Yeah.

He we saw last year with the trade. Yeah, you know, nobody, everybody, nobody saw that thing coming from where it came. And so yeah, I feel like though that you know, they depending on you know, guys like Chris Mortenson reporting Will John knew his guy six weeks ago and told the owner. You know, he this timeline of kind of mad if you're Hugh Jackson and you didn't know until two days ago, you know what. I think John was really worried about Hugh Jackson. I think he was worried about the league.

I really don't I think that he John John is like like Dane says, you know, and I was with John and Green Bay. John is very protective of that board. He is very protective of that board, and he didn't want a situation where you know, people were you know, getting out scrutinizing the pick. Now again, the pick has to still be made. But it looks like all indications as we as we get ready to go on the clock here in a little bit that the Cleveland Browns

are going to take Baker Mayfield at quarterbacks. It does because I posted my draft board today and I didn't have Baker may He is my fifth quarterback of that group. So yeah, that would surprise me. Now again I'll tell you the story about John Dorsey here as we is again as we make our way to the to the top of the hour, I know that John Dorsey was looking at a situation where at Cleveland they have a terrible,

terrible culture, you know, one win in two years. Yeah, John, it was important to John, and I do know this for a fact. It was important to John that he had a player that could go into that locker room when things were bad and the teammates would believe in him no matter how bad it was, that he was all and that player was always going to believe that quarterback was always going to believe he was in every game. Where did you work with John Dorsey Green Bay? Who

is your quarterback? Brett farf Okay, that that I mean? And you don't want to put that on Baker Mayfield, but I did. And that's because that's what a lot of people wanted to paint a picture of what John

Dorsey wants in a quarterback. And John Dorsey likes heightweight, speed, we know that, but in other positions when we talk about the quarterback position, he wants winners, right, And with Baker Mayfield thirty four and six as a starter at Oklahoma, three Big Twelve titles to playoff appearances, he's a winner. And so it's no surprise at all to me that Baker Mayfield is in consideration here and that John Dorsey likes him A little surprising that if he ends up

being the number one pick. Sure, I think that is a little surprising, just because I think we were so settled in on Darnold being that guy. But it does it should not surprise us. That's what makes this interesting to me. Is not so much that Baker Mayfield is allegedly going to be the number one overall pick. But again, and I'm stating the obvious a little bit here, but it only takes one pick to turn this whole thing

on its head. And so you're not just talking about number one, but all of a sudden, what else have we heard? We've heard that the quarterback the Giants, the only quarterback that they're interested in drafting is darn Well. For a month and a half, we were, well, get in line, you're not getting him because the Browns are Now what now Giants are taking a quarterback? Maybe maybe they're less willing to trade out of that pick or

draft sae Quon Barkley two overall. I mean it changes every and then you know, if Sam Darnold's the second quarterback taken, now that changes. You know, We've been slotting Baker Mayfield into the Jets at three for a month and a half. Sure, well, what I mean, do they

like Josh Rosen enough to draft him? Yeah? I think this is gonna be h Allen, do you think do you think that the Giants are It's gonna sound crazy because that has the second overall pick do you think they're in a bad spot because now they're they're struggling with that. They maybe didn't see Baker Mayfield going ahead of them. Do you think now, I mean they've done all? Or are they going to stand in there and pick that running back? It's their fault if they didn't see

this coming. You know, you've got to be prepared for every scenario. I don't think it's never a bad thing picking two. You know, there's one player off the board, and I don't think the Giants, assuming it's Baker Mayfield. I don't think the Giants were taking Baker Mayfield. What it does if you're the Giants, it opens up possibilities for trades. There you go, and so are already being discussed on Twitter sphere if you're looking in the right places.

And Dave Gettlman, I have a hard time seeing Buffalo going up, just because I don't think Dave Gettlman wants to trade out of the top ten. Yeah. I don't

think he does either. But if Denver comes calling at pick number five, sure, because if that happens, quarterbacks are going one, two, three, and you're guaranteed if you're the Giants, you're guaranteed sake one Berkeley, Bradley Chubb, whoever, you know, whatever non quarterback you want there, assuming they want a non quarterback, right, you're guaranteed, you know, one of those top guys at number five. So it's a lot easier

to trade back from two to five. Feel good about the guy you're getting, plus whatever they're getting the trade. It's in my best interest as a Cowboys reporter for the Giants to not do this but just draft Sam Darnold. Idiots. Yeah, I mean like that, I would. Why aren't we talking about that? I mean we're like I just said, it was a foregone conclusion. He's been I mean, he's your QB one, and it's been a foregone conclusion for six weeks that he's not going to be available to you.

And now he's about to fall in your lap and you don't want him your quarterbacks thirty seven and he's been trending downward for three years? Yeah, what are you doing?

See what the hell's going on? Yeah? To me, this is you know, if you're like Dane always says, you don't want to be in this position again, you don't want to be draft in two overall, and so do you know, do you make hey and go ahead and say, Okay, we're gonna take this quarterback and we're gonna sit him for a year, sit him for two years and then

kind of figure things out. If you don't if if if you're the Giants and you don't draft a quarterback, you're limiting yourself to like a two maybe three year window where you might be competitive with Eli Manning. But that's and this goes back to the Tony Romo conversation. And you know, we all thought, and it's worked out for other reasons, but we thought Tony Romo would have two or three years to compete with Zeke and it

was a game. Yeah, so good point. I just think that's the lunacy and and and the Cowboys of twenty sixteen were a lot more ready to compete, I think than the Giants of twenty eighteen. So I just just draft your quarterback. Guys. I don't know why, I don't

know what you're thinking, but yeah I can't. And again, yeah, if I'm I want, I want the Giants to draft sae Quon Barkley or trade out of that pick and draft Bradley Chubb, because it means they're not going to be as good as quick in my opinion, you can throw this back at me in the fall if they start six and oh but I just, I just I don't. This seems like a no brainer to me. Yeah, I just you know, John Dorsey will be He'll be judged on this decision. I mean, there's clearly he will be.

He will be. Hey, you know, in the history for Cleveland Browns and and Dame Burglar has lived it, you know. Last the last Browns general manager to have I think four years at the four year ten year was uh, I like fifteen years ago. I can't remember exactly when, but it's been a while. I mean, you just you don't have a long leash here if you're John Dorsey. So, yeah, he's tied to Baker Mayfield for better or for worse, for better, for worse. Not to mention this is I mean,

you can't draft a non prototypical quarterback any higher than this. Yeah, this is I mean, this is going to be the highest that a non prototype has ever gone. I mean, okay, oh, sure, you can throw Drew Brees at me all you want, Russ second round, yeah, second round, second round, Yeah, exactly. I mean, there there are. You have Baker Mayfield as a one or two. There you go. I mean you could you could argue that fifteen is ambitious for him, just based on size and all that time and the

offense that he played in. Yeah, you're gonna draft him one. That's a that's a that's an old school scout banging his head against the wall right there. But although John Dorsey, yeah, I know, and and John and I were together, I mean that this We said this off the air, though, and I think we all agree. Maybe you might not, mister Lake affect snow wind Man, Me and Dane are on the same page. If I'm if I'm not drafting Rosen or Darnold one, if I'm picking between Alan and Baker,

sure me Baker every time. Yeah I don't. Oh no, you guys clearly don't like I don't like him at all. Okay, that's not one. Not on the top ten. No, on my draft board. Baker Mayfield's ten overall. So I don't think this is a huge reach. Um, you know, I think he's deserving a top ten consideration. He's my Darnald, my clear top quarterback. And then I've gone back and forth with Rosen and Mayfield throughout the process. I started Mayfield over Rosen. I finished Rosen slightly ahead of Mayfield

nine ten on my board. So two and three are very close. And then Josh Allen's a distant fourth down at the bottom of the first round. So you know, I again, I get it. I understand why if Baker Mayfield, if he is the pick, I certainly understand it. And it's going to be fun to watch. And you know, you think about some of the moves the Browns made. Jervis Landry S was more of a within ten yards of the line of scrimmage type of guy. Absolutely Baker Mayfield.

I mean that Jervis Landry right into his game. Yeah, anything underneath and my mediot right, Yeah, what did Baker have at Oklahoma Mark Andrews. Yeah, a guy that could go down the se go down the seam and be a kind of a safety valve. David and Joku draft in the first round last year. Yeah, he's poised to really kind of have a breakout season the NFL and year two. So I think the offense is set up well for it. The only thing that is the question mark is the offensive line. U in Cleveland they lost

Joe Thomas, they lost a lot of pieces. That's he had a strong offensive line in Norman. He's not going to have that in Cleveland right now, so they need to protect him. Kind of keeping an eye on what's going on at the AT and T Stadium there. That's pretty nice, It looks very nice. I think the NFL did a heck of a job and I know the folks are going to have a good time everybody hanging out. I saw a graphic just flash by that. The rumor is that the Broncos are trying to get to the

Giants pick at two Darnel. Yeah, so keep an eye on that one right there. Again, this is so we're about twelve minutes away from the Commissioner Goodell going to the podium and uh and officially opening this draft up. You think it's gonna make any difference to the people in attendance that if he comes out with Jason Witten and Roger Staubach, Well, I think there's a lot of there's a lot of folks in Dallas that really doesn't appreciate what he did to their football team last year.

The answers, no, yeah, it's not gonna I was trying to be diplomatic about it. Lick a difference. Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be at all. The Dallas Cowboys are picking nineteen in this draft, and I you know, we've we've kind of touched on a lot of different scenarios, Dane. When you know, we we've kind of learned about talking with Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones that that Vitaveya has made an appearance as a as

a possibility. Now I feel like that vita Vea is going to have to dodge the mine field, you know, and tell me if I'm wrong, Dane. Of like the Washington Redskins at thirteen starts at ten, really think so Oakland, Yeah, you want to go that high and he has a possibility, so Miami in there, team. I'm just kind of I'm just kind of you know, John Gruden seems like to me, every time John Ruin has ever been a draft, he sits in drafts offensive players. You know, I just gotta

feel like that that. But so, but if you're saying it starts in ten, you know I wouldn't I wouldn't dispute what you're saying right there. But I feel like though that you know, he seems like the guy that they like, but probably the most unrealistic guy getting to them, probably because I mean they love Derwin James too, but that's gonna have to be a trade up there as well. I think he's a little more realistic than Derwin, but I'd be pretty surprised if he's there at nineteen. You

mentioned h Washington. I think Los Angeles the Chargers. Yeah, I think the Chargers are seventeen. They watched the Chargers tonight, folks, because the Chargers could take a player that you really like. They're always unpredictable. They are very unpredictable there. But they also they were in the mix. And I know in your mock draft you were talking about with Layton Vanderesh they were going to the Chargers. And that's a guy

that's kind of been tied to the Cowboys. I know we've tied him to the team here the last the last a couple of shows that we've done, the draft shows that we've done. So keep an eye on the Chargers tonight as a team that could potentially steal a guy that you might want in the first round. Chargers thirty first in the league last year against the run. Yeah, so that's why we just mentioned Vita Vea and while we mentioned Layton Vanderesh, two guys that will help them

get better in the run game. They need help in both nose tackle and at the linebacker positions. So yeah, I think you're absolutely spot on with that. Chargers could take one of those two players that the Cowboys have their eye on. What's the highest? You could see vander Esch going seventeen. I can see him going eleven, Wow, Miami. It depends on when. Okay, so I think Roquan good

chance he's gone at six Indianapolis. I think it's a perfect fit for Mattieberflus, the defensive coordinator, what he's doing there. Should we be shocked if Vanderesh goes off the board before Tremaine Edmonds, even after all of this, it's a little surprising. Yeah, yeah, I just if Edmonds has always been tied to the forty nine ers at nine, I think nine and ten. Edmonds I think goes one of

those two spots. And then once those two linebackers are off the board, Vanderesh's open season eleven Miami, thirteen, Washington, and then you know, we start to go through the mine field of the teams before we get to nineteen. So uh, and there's been a lot of chatter this week about the medicals, but I've reached out to teams, You've reached out to teams. Does not sound like for the majority of teams it's going to be an issue. Yeah.

And then per per this organization had a chance to visit with them about Layton Vanderesh and they give him a no issue on the neck. So that is if you're a Layton Vanderesh fan, that would be good news for you. He is, he's clean to be selected and at nineteen we've kind of always talked about him being that guy. Do you guys feel like though we've kind of held strong with the whole theory of defense first linebacker first in this because of the depth of the position.

I know we've worn that out talking about the wide receivers and potentially, hey, could you come back in you know tomorrow tomorrow night. First, I think first preference is going to be defense based on the need, the depth of the position, the I mean, the quality of the players for that matter. I mean Vida Veya's best defensive

tackle in the draft. Absolutely, so there's that and then just but you got to see who gets to you because and I think you know, if if Vya and vander esh are gone for over Sean Evans in there, if you want to if I think you started looking at wide receivers, yeah, I think you look at wide receivers. Kind of got the opinion though that. And we've talked

about We've talked about the Boston college kid Landry. Yeah, everybody, everybody really likes Landry, but it seems like to me kind of getting a vibe that they'd have to be wiped out to potentially grab a guy like Landry. I think that bothers you done it a little bit. Yeah, I don't love it. I don't love I mean if I don't love the thought that he's like a last resort, because I think he's better than that. Likes and you mentioned him not being strong against the run. I don't care.

Nineteen overall, you get a guy that's capable of double digit sacks, teach him to play the run later. Yeah, let Tyrone Crawford play the run. This guy go gets sacks. Yeah, that's why you draft guys in the first round. Anyway, I've been saying this for the last month. I think ideally, in an ideal world, it's linebacker, wide receiver of first two rounds. Uh, probably in that order, but not necessarily

in that order. Um, you know, if they get wiped out, I think DJ Moore that's who I'm looking at it in nineteen. That's and that's I think their preference. I think Dave Hellman will be happy about that, would be well, It's funny I had this conversation off the air. I would be thrilled because I love him as a player. I think he's great. Don't think he'd be good right away, and I think he'd be a big part of the

offense going forward. But my first he's not my first choice for what I think this team needs in the first round. Sure, because I, like I keep saying, I'm a broken record. I think you can win games with the receivers here, and especially you can find a guy tomorrow or maybe even Saturday, hopefully tomorrow that can do the job for you, you know. I And so I'd much rather have a linebacker or a defensive tackle in

the first round based on need and what's available. In my final mok Landry off the board, Vey off the board, Van Drush off the board More and Rashaun Evans are sitting there. Which direction would you rather than go? That's tough. That's it's tough because like Evans, Evans makes more sense based on not just this team, but the landscape of the draft. I'm just trying to poke holes and everything

you just said. I know, but I do a good job, by the way, Like like early in the draft, in my heart, my heart's on the table like DJ more DJ, and my head is like, no, we need to pick Evans, like and I'd probably and that's Evans and no, literally, I I would hand it in like my homework to my teacher, like here you go, Like like DJ Moore is like a new video game and Rashaan Evans is like a new pair of dress shoes. You know, You're like I need these, but I'd rather be playing FIFA,

you know, So like yeah, no, you're welcome. You can use that. I mean, I mocked I mocked Evans in our final look our final guests, which I'm not super confident that's gonna be right, but I just that's the

idea that I have. You're thinking they're gonna go again on what they did last year, they feel like it's very similar to the taco, And okay, hate on the taco, pick all you want, but if it looks a lot better, would you agree It looks a lot better when you factor in that drafting Taco at twenty eight, got you Cheeto and Jordan Lewis right, right, No, I totally agree

with you. So if I tell you you can get, you're gonna you're gonna draft Rashaun Evans or Layton vander esh at nineteen, but you're gonna get James Washington at eighty one. Yeah, not doing anything for you if things work out, because last year when it's Saint Brown, for all of my fans of the X receiver all throw him. Like if I can get Saint Brown and eighty one and the linebacker at nineteen, well I did it in this last mock, the last market. I picked the safety.

I picked the safety at two. Yeah, I went ahead, and at fifty, I just went ahead and hit more from from Southern Miss and say, because I feel liked it. Maybe this wide receiver class will stretch. I think it will. Maybe that they they talked about, they talked about they like two safeties. Yeah, I think it's I think it's More and I think it's James and that maybe not, that's not the order, But I think that James and Moore are two guys that they really really like. I agree,

And so just just doing all more draft. Yeah, let's go DJ Moore in the first more to various more received him so other missing the second sky more in the third, Hey, there's more and more. Who's at LSU fullback? J D. Moore? D Day way to go man? Like, yeah, way, he's sitting on his couch somewhere watching he does He's not even paying attention. Let me also throw something out

there of kind of hearing some whispers. Uh, if they the offensive line situation, if they were once again really stuck at spot, that's that seems like a last resort. That's all that defined stuck. Like, what do you want consider? Wouldn't the guys she's talking about they're all off the literally everyone everyone, every wide receiver. Yeah, if it's a wide receiver that they I don't I mean to draft

an no lineman nineteen? I yeah, I think it'd be stuck is if they Yeah, if say say that More and Ridley, we've talked about the linebackers, both of the wide receivers run veya gone right, Yeah, I mean you're talking about like all five of your other guys are gone and right, maybe you look at James Daniels that I'm saying James Daniel would be a great glinche. Right, So I couldn't figure out why they were bringing those guys in. I mean, I couldn't figure out why they're

bringing the offensive tackles in. Cover your bases, Cover your basses. But then maybe you were talking about moving Lyle Collins. It'll be interesting if McGlinchey and Daniels are both there, which direction they would go? Can you trade? Can someone come get those guys? Yeah? See that's we we on our on our show the other day, Dane, we went to Carolina at twenty two. Yeah, and David, if I'm not if I'm not mistaken, we picked up Carolinas. I

believe it was eighty. We got eighty five, So we picked up Carolina's eighty five and the third so we went you're picking twenty four fifty eighty one eighty five, Yeah, that's not too shabby. And that was and that was allowed us to grab Evans. Yeah, right there, Yeah, so the best trade back scenario that would get you in position to take a guy that you like would be with Carolina. If you can do it now, you need one of those. I mean, it might be one of

those offensive linemen need to be there for that. You just you need exactly, you need somebody to be there because and you know, I think about all the time. I think about the Travis Frederick trade back, right, And so, okay, it doesn't have to be a quarterback, and it doesn't have to be a tackle, clearly because San Francisco came

out first, safety for safety. But I really feel like that was more about the Cowboys just being desperate to get away from that than the miners just dying to go up and make a pick, you know, right, So oh that was a that was a that was blow the hatches and go for the bottom of the ocean. And I don't I don't see the Cowboys doing that under this management. Like they're prepared one way or the other.

They know they're they're gonna have an option that they're willing to take at at nineteen one way or the other. We still we still an agreement of who we would trade up for. I think it's unrealistic with the Smith. Yeah, but is Derwin James is that is that we still on board with that one. We talked a lot about the trade up options and Roque one was the one guy that I would trade up for. Yeah, Derwin I was kind of on the fence one. I'll get my two to go get him because I think he's a

special player. Derwin, I like, Um, I just don't know if I'm gonna give up that two to go get him. I'm on the fence on that one still am I think that you think the the Earl Thomas talk has died. Not yet, You're still hanging. It's hanging in there until the Cowboys pick of fifty. Yeah, that's it's it's not over until tomorrow. I worry about Seattle trying to get there two. Well, no ahead of That's that's why I worry about it's over. It's over if Seattle trades back

from eighteen tonight, because then they're gonna get something. They'll get a second or third round pick and they'll say we don't need you anymore. Yeah. I think that's where tonight. If you see Seattle, if we get Seattle on the clock and all of a sudden, you know, then you get in New England or somebody like that to be involved. Okay, it looks like that we've hit the top of the hour here, seven o'clock Central time. We should be getting

the commissioner coming to the podium. Forty thousand people in that stadium, something like that. I mean, it's it looks like a very exciting atmosphere. It's cool to see all the different fan base. Yeah, it is, and that's always I appreciate that. Once you can also want to say um, thank you to our fans not only across the country, but across the pond, as they would say, right yeah, or UK, Caortugal, all over Ireland. Yeah, you guys got another one. I got it. I think Australia I got today.

I got a lot of late folks change out all my appreciate that. Okay, they're taking a look right now into the Cleveland war Room. That's John Dorsey starts. He's not wearing that like Bill Clinton, going for a jog sweatshirt and he doesn't have his he doesn't have his Cleveland Brown gray sweatshirt, John Brown War. He shows up to a new team and he's like, I want a heather gray sweatshirt with the oldest, crappiest looking logo you got and it needs to have been made in nineteen

eighty eight. It's easy to spot him, you know, you go to the Senior Bowl, go to you know, some of these scouting events. He's always got the got the gray sweat top on for sure. And but go on eBay to find that, Yeah, we're soon to have the orb orb the GM of a team and just say, hey, make me this, Yeah, just just give me the nineteen fifty eight sweatop. I'll be happy to wear that. Cleveland will be on the clock, followed by the New York Giants,

and then it is the New York Jets. We're kind of holding tight here to see if something does happen with that second overall pick. There's some rumors and speculation that Denver is trying to move from five to get to two. We'll see if Dave Getleman bites on that. Who's gonna be We talked about this a little bit off the air, but who's gonna be the surprise team this year that trades up for a quarterback or just drafts a quarterback and see and I liked I liked

your answer. Yeah, because the Saints make so much sense. But it's almost not a surprise. It's not a surprise at all. We've talked about a million times. All Right, what about I think the Saints will give next years one to go New England's not a surprise either. What about Baltimore? That's Baltimore and Cincinnati last, this is his last draft. Cincinnati would be way more surprising to me than Baltimore because Baltimore picks low enough that it makes sense.

Sixteen and Joe Flacco is Joe Flacco. I mean he's he's trending down the same way. Eli, Man, where do they have to go to get Lamar Jackson? They might not have to go. I think they'd have to get a front of Arizona at fifteen. That's true. Uh, you think Arizona? I mean, Arizona is definitely looking at quarterback. Arizona might have the worst quarterback situation in the league. Yeah, I mean, how dare you talk that way about Sammy Sleeves Bradford. Yeah, Sean lee looks like iron Man compared

to the greatest. I mean, nobody's made more money doing not a lot than that guy. I admire it. Speaking of Oklahoma Big twelve quarterbacks. Uh, yeah, true, but yeah, you know, I think Baltimore is in the discussion you mentioned New England. I don't I see that. Do England be surprising to me just because we've not seen them

do something like that, I mean in a long long time. Yeah, you know, we've seen them stay put and take a quarterback in a second or in the third, but to trade up into the first to take a quarterback would be a pretty substantial move, especially if it's for Lamar Jackson, who is obviously a big difference in terms of style. The whispers are that they like him though, that's the whispers they brought. They've done work on him. Yeah, so you know, it wouldn't be a total shock, but I'd

still be surprised to see it happen. The quarterbacks that they they've they've brought in. They did bring in Baker Mayfield, they did bring in Josh Rose, and Kyle Loletta was brought in as well as a as a quarterback visit. So it'll be interesting to see where they're The funny thing here is, okay, you know, uh, the Chargers is another team that shots to mind. But the funny thing. The funny thing about quarterback though, is it's so visible

and everybody knows about them. Would anybody really be shocked if the Chargers drafted one? I mean, Philip Rivers is thirty seven years old. It makes sense. We're talking about Eli Manning. They're in the same drafts. That's what made the Chiefs thing so crazy is that Alex Smith is much younger. Like nobody. I did not think Alex Smith was about to play as last year in Kansas City

at this time last year. Um So if you're talking about stuff that would come totally out of nowhere, that's Cincinnati would be kind of shocking because you're basically just pulling the plug on the Andy Dalton era. I mean, just bye bye, get out of here. Uh. And this isn't a huge surprise, but maybe Pittsburgh, I mean, same draft. Well big Ben is not a young guy. Well here we go, and uh Kent Garrison executive producing as always. Yeah, I was right commissioning Rockadel. He goes to the podium,

He's gonna open this two thousand and eighteen NFL draft. Oh, I love it, I love it. M I still got it. That's a hell of a souvenir. Great job right there. Okay, that puts the Cleveland Browns on the clock time at that is at seven h seven thirty, And so the journey begins for us here any more motivational words for us or no, I just broadcast. I'm just so appreciative you guys are here with me today and for this

whole weekend. I love I love the fact that we will have some The Draft Show will have some just tremendous coverage these next three days. These players will talk about if you're if you're a fan of the Cowboys, we love you. If you're a fan of other teams, we're gonna talk about your guys too. We are not gonna just be totally Cowboy Cowboys centric. That's just the way we like to do things here in the Draft Show.

We always talk about investigate and educate. Yeah, and I guarantee you, Dame Brugler will have a scouting report on whoever. Two fifty six is. Short of the sixteen Sundays or whatever days of the week where they actually play regular season games. This is the best three days of the year, which and I know you don't have to say it, but I know you don't even agree with that. You think these are the best three days of the year. You wouldn't play the games if you had the choice.

I think this would be a great gig if you didn't have to play the game. It hurt, It hurts too much for you to play that. But I love I love the preparation to get to this point, and I think that we've done a great job of pulling this all together. We've talked a little bit about the Browns. This the draft. You know, people have had a chance now to digest potentially what's going to happen at the top of this board, and you know, teams like the Giants.

Dane Brugler said it. Dave Getlman is a veteran general manager. He's a long time Giant scout before that, he's old school. He is very old school, and you know, he he doesn't care if it's a running back, the guard, whatever. He is going to take the player that he wants to take. So with that being said, we got to about eight minutes on the clock for the Browns and heads up, we're not going to be tipping any picks. We're not. We're not. We're gonna find out with you

guys as soon as the picks announced. We're not gonna know ahead of times, so we're gonna experience each one of these picks with you. Absolutely. So John Dorsey in the in the Brown's war room. They look very comfortable there. Uh they've Dorsey has known this pick for a while. Jim Hasling the owner. Uh, it's not Jim, it's a hasl Is Jimmy. Jim has him right, Jim has the Bengals linebackers. Exactly. I was. I was like thinking, man, that was the wrong guy there. He needs to be

working out Connor william Exactly. He was at Connor Williams Brot. They're showing all the old Cowboy or brown draft picks on the board. Yeah, it's just sad. It's just is a Browns fan. What what emotion though, Dane? You know a long time, you know you're an Ohio kid. Yeah, what what emotions do you have about this? Right now? You gotta new you got a general manager. You gotta feel like it's pretty good at his job, you know.

And so I feel a lot more confident about the Browns than this year than I did last year, the previous few years with John Dorsey in charge. Um, yeah, I mean the nineteen ninety nine draft and the Browns came back. That's what made me fall in love with the draft. Yeah, that draft right there, and you know it's the Browns have been a constant in the top ten. It seems, um and you know, it's seems like they

missed out on some of the top quarterbacks. On twenty twelve, they had the third pick, not the number one pick, So they missed out of Andrew Luck two years ago. They traded away from Carson Wentz last year to Shaun Watson. This year, they have the top pick. It will be a quarterback and they're not trading it. It just comes down to Willie get the pick. Right, Okay, here we go. It's this is our first look in the war room

in side center at the start here in Frisco. So yeah, we've got you know, uh, that's as you look at the table right there is the scouts. I'll name him off to you left to right, Walter Juliffe, Lionel Vitale. It's a Jerry Junior's son sitting there, and then Jerry Junior is himself, Jon Jarrison Garrett of course, and then Jerry Jones greeting some folks here in the war room. And as we go around, Will mcclay's there, Charlotte Jones Anderson is there as well, right next to Chris Hall.

Next to Chris Hall in that chair, that empty chair will be tough. Well, there's Todd Williams right there. I thought he got up out of his chair. But him and Adam Pacifica, they are the cap guys, so everybody. They got the Senior Scouts at the table, the National Scouts at the table, so they're ready to go. Here. As you look at the war room, going again left to right of all the folks involved, the Papa John's pizza boxes in the background are just a nice touch. Yeah,

nice touch. And they'd be very good with some Miller light. Yeah, they'll be some very good with the Papa John's in the Miller light. That would be outstanding. And we appreciate Miller light. But Dane, you you you really spoke from the heart right there. And you're looking now into the Cleveland war room, you know, John Dorsey and Hugh Jackson are handshakes all around. It will be interesting to see if, in fact, this time next year that those two will

be together, but we'll see. Like I say, Dane Bruger thinks it is going to be a quarterback. They're taking their full time here. It's going to be a quarterbacks, like we just don't know which one, but I assume it's Baker Mayfield. And we've talked about that though. We think that that that is that is a little bit of a surprise. That is a little bit of a surprise. Uh you know with the with Baker Mayfield going uh

to or we think to the Cleveland Browns. It was a surprise today and it certainly would have been a surprise as when we started this journey, I said, Hey, spoiler, Baker Mayfield's gonna be the number one pick back in January. Right, you guys would not have believed me. No, we I know I would not have believed you right at all. I mean, I've just h I'm very I'm very interested to see how uh this thing, uh well, we'll play

out with with Baker Mayfield. And when I talked about it earlier with John Dorsey, he is looking for a guy who's accountable in the locker room. He's looking for a guy that will lead men. He's looking for a quarterback that will that the players will gravitate towards and then he uh and then will lead them back again. This team has only won one game in two years. Hugh Jackson got another a year to try and turn this around, and uh, you know this is this is

another opportunity for him to do that. If they don't, then I believe that John Dorsey will be looking for another head coach. So we will see. But as you can see again both the war room cam is up and uh and we're waiting for Cleveland's pick. There's still three minutes in forty five seconds on the clock. I never know, maybe that late trade offer. No, they're just drawing this out. It's they know who it's gonna be.

Like you said, John's known for quite a while now, he said, what's it was reported six weeks He's probably no longer than that. At least had a strong feeling who the top quarterback was going to be on his board. I just love from the Cowboys perspective, like I mean, and you know you got a it'll change, but I mean, at this point you're not going up to number one, two, three, and so you know, it's all it's fun in games. But I don't know. In about forty minutes it's gonna

shift to a little bit more serious tone. It's just fun to watch. Yeah, and again, so we're inside of three minutes on the Brown's pick. The best thing about this pick is there are a lot of war rooms around the league kind of doing what we're doing, Like, yeah, who's just gonna be? Is it? Is it really gonna be Baker? You know, I don't think like there are a lot of war rooms who they don't know who it's going to be. And I think they're waiting on

pins and needles just like we are. Would John Dorsey actually take Baker Mayfield number one? It's really a fascinating dynamic to this and uh yeah, I just I mean

they've tried. There's there's so much effort has been put in, and then the long suffering Brown fans, you know, they've just that's that's one of those places where you know, you'd love to see Cleveland get back to winning again, and that's one of those pillar franchises, you know, And it's just, you know, it's found so weird for me to hear yeah in my adult well, yeah, exactly what you're talking about, because yeah, I grew up with Eric Metcalfe and Bernie Kozar and you know those guys in

the early nineties, and you know it's and John Dorsey. I think that's one of the reasons he took the job so early and didn't wait to interview for other jobs, is he wanted to be part of an iconic organization and he came from Green Bay rather organization. Yeah, in Kansas City, another one of the original franchises. So you know it's uh, it's something that means a lot to him, and he wants to turn this thing around. I can't. He can't get this wrong. Can't get the number one

He cannot get the number one pick wrong. I mean, it's gonna either gonna set the franchise up or set them way back. But it looks like the pick is in and we will soon have a Commissioner Goodell will make that announcements. There's there there. I was gonna say, there's always like this annoying four minute wait from when the pick comes into when they come out and tell us, well, the Brown war room again. They look the Brown's war room.

They look very relaxed, and they've got another pick coming up here in a little bit too, unless you know, they've got some plans they want to trade that try and move this pick. We'll see if in fact that they do that. But we're again just waiting for the missioner to get to the podium. Who's and make this pick? All right? This is a quarterback, whether it's Darnold or Baker whatever, Yeah, who's who's? Well, okay, I know who could come up for four? Why? Why are the Browns trying?

What are they seems a little cute for me? What trying to get out of? Here? Comes to commissioner to talk about it. Here we go, Here comes the commissioner to the podium. Let's go. That's gonna go on all weekend long. Here it is. Wow, Well, Baker Mayfield is in fact the pick. So they managed to keep that pick very secret until late in the afternoon, until until yeah, until they told you boy, and then and then all

of a sudden, so Baker Mayfield. Uh, And and I know for a fact that we do a lot of work guys with uh with the Jeff Cavanaugh on one oh five three, And that was guy that he was Baker Mayfield all the way. He felt like, uh, that that he was gonna be one of the best quarterbacks in the draft, and sure enough here the uh, I'm a little bit brown. I'm a little bit scared of drafting a guy who's six flat number one overall. Yeah, um, but six thank I'm sorry, I'm sorry, six flat and

a half. Um. But I mean I love this dude, I would like. I mean, he's he's the type of guy that you love him if he's on your team, you hate him if he's not. But I love guys like that. And yeah, he's a culture changer. I don't know, it's hard to say right now how well it's gonna work out. But like I said, if i'm if I'm holding that pick, I think I'm picking Josh Rosen. Yeah, but I like this a lot more than I like

Josh Allen. I'll tell you that. That's the thing. If I'm a Bronze fans, Yeah, Josh Allen, feel good about that. It's has a walk on ever gone number one? You know. I mean, I'm trying a fantastic point, not even a

walk on, but twice a walk on. You know. It's just it's fascinating that he's gone in the trajectory of his career uh from you know, few offers out of Austin, Uh to you know, getting beat out by uh Davis Webb and sure Pat Mahomes a tech and then walking on to Oklahoma and going thirty four and six there and uh being being the guys though it's early as fascinating thing. Well, Baker Mayfield is the now the first

overall pick of the Cleveland Browns. Uh. It's you know, when watching Baker Mayfield play, he was one of the best protected quarterbacks in this draft. You mean you you watch him? You know, the offensive line did a heck of a job, Dane, you were talking about the skill guys. Uh. You know Lincoln Riley, the head coach, play caller, I thought, did great things with him. But you're You're right, Dave.

I think to me, the old scout in me is a little bit worried about the guy that's you know, six foot now he can't he might not be able to throw in the Lake Erie snowstorm. Brian. Yeah, that's well, you know, that's I think you have to. I think that physical traits will play a factor in some of this. I'm not I am not a I'm not a doubter of Baker Mayfield. I just know I'm just giving your heart. I know you were, but that's what we do here.

I mean, I think that you know. Dan's right though, it's I think this is one of those intangible picks. I think this. I don't think this is the safest quarterback in the draft. No, I don't, And maybe if you're making the first overall pick. But does he have the potential to be the best quarter I'm gonna ask you, guys, let's spill on the crystal ball a little bit. Does he have the chance to be the best quarterback of the ones that are selected today? Do you feel like

he could be that guy? He's top ten on my board, So yeah, I think he has a chance. It's just, you know, like you said, he's not the safest. He needs to improve an areas. The biggest worry I have is just going from that Oklahoma offense to the NFL is going to be a big leap, especially not against big twelve defenses. But again, we saw Baker and Columbus against a very stout Ohio defense, Ohio State defense. We

saw Georgia too. Watch a second half of the Georgia right Sam Donald call him an opponent we saw him and we saw you know, there's Sam Donald did not have the offensive line. No, Baker does. Did a nice shot. You're absolutely right about so, Miamy, we can talk big twelve, but he did a nice job out of his element against a big time defense. So he deserves credit for that. I think we've only seen three Big twelve quarterbacks in the top ten Um Bradford, Mahomes and Mayfield and two

Oraclea Hooma quarterbacks. And John Dorsey drafted two of those guys, Mahomes last year and Baker this year. It's interesting the comparison. Okay, the Giants pick is in now that will be first round. That's the second overall picks. So good job at the Giant. Yeah, good job. Dave Getleman knows exactly what he wants to do with this pick. Wait till he goes to the podium. Do the do the right thing, Giants. No, that's I mean, that's a great thing for the Cowboys if they want

to not have to worry about the Giants. You know, I said this a long time ago about this guy. Someone asked me the comparison to Baker Mayfield, and I did say, Jeff Garci. That's that's my and then that's and that's exactly the what speed show? I mean? Oh, Jeff Garcia is a kind of run around. He's a he's a he was a Jeff Garcia was a pro bowler. Yeah, Jeff a great career he did he sure did. No, I just give me the hit factory. Here we go. Well, let's go to podium. The Giants are about to make

a selection. Okay, I'm not surprised at all. Dave Gettlman does not trade back. He stays put and he picks. Last year he took Christian McCaffrey. This year he takes Saquon Barkley. I am not surprised at all. Well, sa Quon Barkley. Okay, now, Dave, you were talking about that. Do you feel you feel better or worse about the New York Giants now having a running back with the

talent of sa Quon Barkley. Listen, don't get me wrong, sae Quon Barkley is a stud and he's gonna he's gonna make the cowboys very unhappy on a number of occasions. But it's a marathon, not a sprint. Man. Uh And I look at the Giants, and I look at their thirty seven year old quarterback. Who literally, I mean, I'm not just I'm not spitballing here. I've looked this stuff up. The guy's been significantly worse every year for the last three years. Uh. Their first round tackle Eric Flowers didn't

pan out. I believe Justin Pugh left, did he not? Aza? Now, who's blocking for this kid? Who's who's well? They signed? They sold? They sold or signed left tackle? Yeah, this is where to quote Marshall ericson not good enough? Yeah, to me, this is said that's what he had a Penn State though. Okay, let me ask you this. Would you've taken Nelson here? Would you taken Quentin Nelson here? I think that was actually in the very first What do you know about running backs right now? I would

have taken if I would take quarterback. If I didn't take a quarterback, I would have taken Chubb. Okay, you would have taken Chubb. I would have you. That's that's what I cannot get you to take a guard in the first round, can I No? Not that high? Right? I would take one in the top seven or eight. I mean that I'd take Nelson somewhere in there. But I'd I'd rather have I'd rather have Quenton Nelson than se Quon Barkley for that team, for that team. Yeah, I just I just think, I said, I'm just I'm

just now, maybe Barkley helps that offensive line. I mean, I just worry. But I mean, the NFC East is a tougher division right now than it was. Yeah, trying to block the try and block the Philadelphia Eagles up front. But he brings a lot more than just a traditional running back to the offense. I mean, he's what he can bring is Christian McCaffrey esque, you know, in space, catching them all in the backfield, line him up in

the slot. He can do all those things. So the Giants are a better team today, There's no question about it. They are. They are a better team today, and they're a better team for twenty eighteen. But yeah, this wasn't they're going for it with elm Man. This wasn't the right call. Yeah, they ad the next decade. I would have taken Sam Donald. I agree, But which again, And like I said, I mean, the cow always did the same thing, And so I feel hypocritical criticizing the Giants

for doing what the Cowboys did. But that Cowboys team was closer to contention than this Giants team in my opinion. Sure, yeah, um so. And and you're picking two also, so keep in mind, if the Cowboys had picked two in that draft, you think they let Wentz go. I don't. That's a fascinating question. That's a fascinating question. But again, the Cowboys didn't necessarily have their pick of the litter of quarterbacks either.

I mean the Giants, I assume Baker wasn't there QB one, so they could have had anybody they wanted and there they'd rather have a two year window with Eli Manning. And I just don't know. Hey, maybe Davis Webb is a stud too, but if well, obviously, but they but what did they do last year to Davis Davis? What they didn't play and when they should have played him at the end, they took They they went ahead and and and what did they do? They they went and

got uh they played Gino Gino, Yeah, Gino Smith. I mean instead of given Davis Webb a start, they they they gave you know, Gino. So I don't. I don't quite get nets. Again, that's why general managers get fired and head coaches get fired. It's funny that the last time, and yeah, the Giants don't pick up here that often. They were pretty well run organizations. Sure, it's funny that the last time that they were this putrid, what they do they picked? They picked a quarterback to quarterback heared

the future their franchise. Yeah, he won them two super Bowls, right and no, Cowboys fans don't want to give you Lie Mann and credit for that, but absolutely you'll take that every single time. Yeah. Um, so, I, like I said, you know, the NFL's whacky. I'm not going to be surprised if the Giants are playoff contenders in twenty eighteen. Um, but I don't know that this is the right call.

When you had a chance to draft a guy that could be your quarterback for fifteen years, and again if they didn't go quarterback, I think the right choice would broadly Chubb pass rusher. Guy's going to impact the pocket, second most important position in a roster. No, Jason Pierre Paul is gone. Um, you know you still have Olivia Vernon, But give me the guy that's going to impact the pocket, probably Chubbs. When the best players in this draft he's

number three on my board. That's a ruction I would have went. Let me ask you this with Barkley, though, can you compare the impact that he might have? Say what it like, Ezekiel Eliot? Oh? Absolutely and that. But I would argue, did that Dallas offense because the line was more prepared to make Zeke work? There's no debate there, yea. But I would say that Barkley is the going to be the leading favorite to be offensive Rookie of the

Year this year. I mean, I think it. We don't know, we're two picks in, but I feel safe saying that right now. Did just what if? What if my lsu homie goes to that team at thirty two in about five hours? The only reason you take a running back two is if you're going to force feed him the ball and make him the featured piece of your offense. And so I expect them to really run the wheels off of Berkeley. Yeah, handing him in the ball, letting

him run patterns. I mean just they're going to utilize him quite a bit where he's gonna have every opportunity to show that you know, the Giants made the right pick at number two. Well, that makes the New York Jets now on the clock. Their pick is in. This is a quarterback, So which one is it? Yeah, and let's let's you know that's they're in a situation right now where they resigned McCown. They added Bridgewater here as well, and so you know they've been searching for a franchise quarterback.

It seems like forever Hackenburg and Petty are still on the roster. Yeah, so this is gonna be a very very I'm sure once, say Mike mcagnan, Well, we'll do some housecleaning here once this pick is in. But what do we think Darnald? Do you think Rosen? Do we think Allen? Who? Do we think? I think Baker? Mayfield was who? Yeah? Who? They kind of they did a lot of homework on matter of fact, they did bring in Rosen. They actually they brought in all four the quarterbacks.

They did bring in all four the quarterbacks, Mayfield, Rosen, Allen, and Darnald. They did not bring in Jackson. If I'm Cleveland, I am hoping for Rosen here. So Darnold falls the four. That ups the value of that pick. It's a great point. Yeah, yeah, makes a great great you know, I can I cannot imagine this not being a quarterback. No, it's quarterback. Has to be. You don't trade three second rounders to go up three spots to get Bradley Chubb. I love it Chubb. Yeah,

you are talking about Chubb for sure. Okay, it looks like the again. The pick is in and here comes the commissioner to the podium. M M well, Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold did wind up in New York, y'all? Yeah, he sure did, all right, Sam Darnold. Though, you know, we everybody kind of thought that Sam Darnold was going to be the first overall UH selection by the Cleveland Browns. Now he goes to the Jets. That's something now, but everybody,

that will be the new debate right there. Everyone gave the Jets a lot of flak for moving up so early in the process. Sure, going up three spots, and you know they're gonna well, they're gonna take their third quarterback there you gonna shut out. Yeah, it worked out for him because there there's a good chance Donald's the first quarterback on their board. They got him, and you

have to feel good about that. And he's going to a good situation because like you mentioned, McCown's there, Bridgewater's there. Darnald does not have to play day one. He does not need to be the starter an opening day. He's not going to a bad situation though, because there's nobody there for him to play football with. Well not this year, right,

but see that? That that to me like he could be in a situation where all of a sudden, you know, he's not playing, and then the whole coaching staff gets fired and a new coach comes in there, a new GM, and all that thing is, this might give them a little more leash you draft to Sam Donald, the current coaching staff, the current GM. I love Mike mckeckne, he's

one of my dear friends. But my gosh, I mean, if you if you throw those guys out this year, you make your next hire with Sam Darnold as the focal point of oh, there's no doubt, you make that higher and you say, hey, this guy is under contract for four more years and we're not hiring a guy who can't develop him and make it work with him. Okay, Dane, tell me a little bit about Sam Darnold and why why he could work at the Jets, and maybe why he can't work at the Jets. Well, Jeremy bates the OC.

I think it's a good fit with what he does. He's a kind of an SEC guy, right, I mean Jeremy Jeremy. He knows all those sc kids pretty well. And with Sam Darnald does best is in movement. Um, you know, the second chance plays. Uh. The USC offensive line was dreadful, and so whether it's by design or not, we got to see him move around a lot and create those second chance plays with a little bit of magic that he has. So does he's only twenty years old.

Does he need to get better in some areas, Absolutely, But he's the quarterback in this class I'm betting on. I'm just it's funny. Well, I'm going back to the point I just made, which is the joke. The joke is that you don't want to go to Cleveland. People have joke for years that, oh, it's good if you fall away from the Browns. Right. The Browns are more set up to help a young quarterback succeed right now

than the Jets are. Yeah, you got a pass catching tight end, you got some badass wide receivers that can help you out. Probably draft of running back back to Cleveland real quick with number one in Baker Mayfield. All along, we thought that it was going to be Darnald in a good situation for Darnold to sit behind Tyrod Taylor being that bridge quarterback. One year, he's final year of his deal for Tyrod Taylor. Now Baker's there, it's no

longer a foregone conclusion. Tyrod Taylor's a starter. I mean, Baker's not going to go in there and just concede the job. Do you think Darnel will be the starter at the Jets? No, no, no, no, he shouldn't be. I don't think he's right. If you're if you're if your job's on the line, maybe I mean, I mean you you're talking about buying some more time. If Darnald's good enough that he he might start like week eleven. But he's not. He's not starting earlier than that. If

I'm gonna get fired, I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna play the guy I picked. But why what's that gonna do? It's not gonna say this. Probably it might show the owner that you know what, Well, that's what I'm saying. Week eleven. I think he has a shot if it in the toilet. Yeah, it might be too late by week eleven, though, don't you think. Well, okay, I'll say ken, and you know I'll say this if you never prede

I'm staunchly against predetermining playing time right now. Right you go to training camp and you let training camp decide that. So if Sam Darnold goes to training camp and plays really well and shows he's he's ready, then by all means play him, but only in that situation. So I'm not going to predetermine the playing time for him. Uh, that's what training camps for. Man. Hey, never never judge

a quarterback by the school he's coming out of. But they're running through these USC qbs and it is not It might be my biggest pet peeves not super encouraging doing so many media hits this week. If they're throwing them all under the bus. You're talking about USC quarterback, Well, what do USC quarterback has done? Well? I don't care, it doesn't matter. All they have in similar is just the kel the helmets. Carson Palmer had a great career

just recently retired. To know it is it's laughable to try to compare those things, But it is funny to see them all lined up. We're gonna see a trade here at number four? Or what do you think? I see the it's running down. The clock is now at three minutes and forty seconds. And I'd like to believe to sit in there for him. Yeah, I would like to believe that if you were gonna trade, you would have an idea what you wanted to do. Don't be

cute Cleveland trading. I needs a smart move. Why, yes, me? Why? Because I think you're gonna get a good player if you trade down and you're gonna pick up more picks. Don't the Browns have enough picks? They got a billion picks? Get a first rounder next year picking thirty three? Or I love Bradley Chubb, but why don't give me the picks? Why don't you want Emmanuel Log, Miles Garrett, and Bradley Chubb all playing on the same line. I think that'd

be fun. And that's where I would go in this scenario. If I'm the Browns, Bradley Chubb should be the pick. But if someone wants one of these quarterbacks Rosen or Alan and they give me the offer, uh, and you know, if say Buffalo gives me twelve next year's one and two or three. This year, I'm doing it. John Dorsey has always uh and this is this is the true. Dorsey has always been a part of teams where uh,

premiere uh you know, premiere pass rushers were involved. You know, I mean something that they care a lot about, you know, And I kind of feel like, though I'm with Dane on this one. I think that they're gonna stand in here and make this pick, and I think it's gonna be Chubb, just because again Dorsey's background, you know, he's always said they're gonna trade. No, I would do that, yes, oh yeah, but I he thinks they're gonna make the pick. Yeah,

I think they're gonna take Chubb. You would you would trade the pick if I got the offer. If you got the offer and it picks in, they doesn't look like that's I'm you know, they're gonna get Bradley Chub here, and I think they're gonna get a really good player because again, you yeah, quarterback the most important position on the roster. At one, you get the second most important position. At two. You took another one, another pass rusher. Last

year at number one overall pick. You still have Emmanuel Ogba. I just get the rushers, get them all on the field, and get after the quarterback. And this is the pick, by the way, at fourth overall is the pick that they got last year from a trade from the Houston Texans. They sacrifice to pick to get DeShawn Watson trade back. That's not a bad that was not me and the fourth overall pick for Watson. I think that people would

take that thing is is that pick. This pick looks like it was going to be in the twenties and then Watson toward the aco and all of a sudden it plummeted plummeted down. You're right about that, but I think they got a fine young quarterback. The Cowboys play the Texans next year too, play him the preseason, and play him during the regular season as well. So we're waiting. The pick is in from the Browns again. This is

the first round pick, four overall. Dane Burglar thinks that it is going to be Bradley Chubb, the very talented defensive end from North Carolina State. And as we look at the setting, the commissioner is making his way to the podium. Let's go there. Okay, I did talk about this this week on Cleveland Radio. Do not count out Denzel Award. He might be the best cornerback on the Browns roster right now. That's how dire the situation is at the cornerback position. So hey, I don't mind this

pick at Denzel Awards an outstanding player. He's number five on my board, so I'm not against it. If we talked about ranking the positions on if we talk just to talk about importance, quarterback one pass, rusher, two corners three. So they didn't go number two most important position. They went with number three, And I think Emmanuel Agba is taking a style of relief. Maybe, yeah, a good point. I'll tell you what though, this is a team that this is a team though that did sign four cornerbacks.

Yeah during during a who though, I mean Roscoe Fillers. Take a look at Dan's face right there. Yeah, it looks like Carrie Games. Yeah, I understand, which Terrence Mitchell, I understand what you're saying. I mean, he Denzel Wards number five on my board. So this is not a reach by any means. I think it. You don't like Brian body Calhoun. He's probably their best corner right now.

My only Denzel Warden shows up. Brian body Calhoun. I remember from his draft he went to Minnesota, and I remember Ezekiel Elliott dragged him all over the field in twenty sixteen. Run defense is not his strength. Yeah, he's a solid nickel guy. But uh, no, I like this pick. I okay, it's harsh for me to say I don't like it. I mean, if you're gonna get the best cornerback in the draft, you're probably not gonna go wrong. But I think he would have won five if he

didn't go here. For it sounded fun af to have Miles Garrett on the right side and Bradley Chubb on the left, and then you can do whatever you want with Emmanuel Oba. I'll tell you what. That was a little bit of a surprise for me. I thought you, I thought you were going down the right avenue. Oh yeah, I'm surprised too. I mean, I thought Chubb was gonna be the pick. But no. It's funny because I did a lot of Cleveland radio this week and we talked

about other possibilities in Denzel. If it wasn't Chubb and it wasn't a trade down, then it was gonna be Denzel Ward. Because again the cornerback situation of the depth chart in Cleveland, it kind of makes you makes you a little ill when you look at it. So Denzel Ward, like I said, at some point early in this this season, Denzel Ward will be the best cornerback, maybe already on the on the bronze roster. I'm just I'm I'm gonna totally just play second guess jerk. Nobody likes that. Sorry,

you could do that? Yeah, just thinking, Hey, Mike Us and Mike Cues and Josh Jackson might be there for you at thirty three if you need a cornerback. I just, man, it's hard for me to the thought of just turning away from the best pass rusher in the draft is rough for me. I don't know. Could could Could we see now the Colts who all along we thought maybe that they would take Bradley Chubb get him at six? I bet there. I mean, I mean you think that.

I mean they talked about maybe diving out of there, and now all of a sudden, they're looking at They're looking at They're looking at Chubb without I mean, I think you're fine with Chubb or Nelson, you know, I think you're you're I think there's okay, I think sitting there at six and saying we'll take either one of those guys. Yeah, but if you're Denver, are you looking at the quarterbacks here? Yeah? No, I was just trying

to say. I was trying to say, because the Colts we had, we had talked about the Colts when they were three, all you chub, Chub chub, that was a name that was always yeah. And now they back up and they get him at six, and they could get him at six. So yeah, I wonder, you know, Denver, I can't see the clock right now, but they're kind of running out of time. But yeah, does somebody want a pass rusher bad enough that they would trade into that spot, because I mean we've heard forever that Denver's

definitely willing to sell that pick. Yeah, and I don't I mean, I don't know the answer. Yeah, Well, Denver was trying to it sound like that Denver was trying to get to the Giants at two, and obviously we're unsuccessful doing that. So let's see if, in fact, if we look at the Broncos team, need we talk about the quarterbacks, We talk about linebacker, and we talk about running back, but you know, again, we kind of feel like that it's going to be the quarterback. Which quarterback?

Do you think that John Elway, now you know, covets for his uh for his team. If if, in fact, did they make that pick and they liked they like Baker, liked Baker, he's a brown now, um, and that's I don't know. I mean, I guess, I mean, Josh Allen and Josh Rosen are obviously there, But do they like one of those guys enough to spend this pick. That's what makes me wonder if they'd be willing to trade out of this spot, if somebody was willing to do it. I just read the Bills aren't willing to give up

as much as it would cost to get sure. So the Bills might be sitting there thinking, well, maybe maybe our guys gonna get to us. Maybe they don't have to move at twelve. Maybe they liked one of these guys a little bit more, and let's see, you know what's going on there with because they might just be sitting there and saying, all right, we'll take it. Looks like the picks in for Denver. Yeah, they had they had a like they had two or three minutes still

left on the clock. So obviously we surprise no trades yet. Yeah, absolutely, I mean why was gonna we were all like predicting in our draft shows in like this chaotic situation you know, with people uh, you know, moving up and down the board here. But as it played out that way, these teams are just making their pick and we got a long way to go. So here we go. It's the Broncos again. Their pick is in. We're just ware. Do you want to take a Do you want to take

a guess which one of those quarterbacks they liked? Dane? Do you want to see which one? Dude? Do you have a quarterback? Are you convinced it's a quarterback? No? Yeah, No, I think I think John Oeys quarterback burned out? Do you think so? Yeah? I think I think Paxson Lynch still haunts him. And so he went with a more safe approach with case Keenum. Okay, So he's gonna take a positional pay. Think they wanted Denzel Ward, okay, and so I think he's a little surprised Denzel Wards not there.

And so what's option B. They have a need a guard. They do have a need a guard. I think quittin Nelson to be a home run pick here, safest player in the draft after Yeah, the best player in the draft. Yeah. They they've they've they're right built here, they're they traded for their uh let me say, traded for a right tackle and they haven't really done anything left since then. But okay, let's go. The pick is in for the Denver Broncos. Okay, there you go, Bradley Chubby Tom pass

rusher on the draft. Yeah. And if you kind of you know you you look at the some of the needs for the Broncos we talked about that they look for. It seemed like more than the uh, interior defensive lineman, where some of the thoughts that it was not so much on the on the on the edge, but the Denver Broncos they they've added. The Broncos said, if you don't want to have the nastiest pass rushing exact one,

we'll do it for you. I think that's something that's really I think that they said, you know what, this guy is way way, way too too good to pass on. So is that is that kind of a bp A thing right there? I mean assuming depending on how I think. Day made a great point about being U the quarterback being a little you know, a little shy there right now. They're burnout. They're burnout on that. The Paxton Lynch, I

mean the osweiler Um. You know that they've they went to safe route and threw a lot of money at case Keenum and they're okay riding with him. And we heard Chris Harris, the cornerback say publicly, hey man, anybody but a quarterback. You know, we're ready to win right now. Give us someone who's gonna help. This guy Rabley Chubb's gonna help. So the Denver Broncos, Funny, what did you have ranked on your board? Day three? Three? There you go?

That's I mean, I like that. Pick a lot for them, And yeah, I mean we case Keenum can get you to the conference championship game. Beef that defense up a little bit. Yeah, we saw that all the two last year. Y. I tell you what, Broncos finally have a pass rusher. Oh wait, they still have von Miller. Yeah that's pretty good right there. Not about duo. So yeah, the Broncho select Bradley Chubb from North Carolina State. Well, I'll tell you he is fun to watch on tape that he

gets thrilled load to the ground. He looks like von Miller coming around the corner that way been compared a little bit to von Miller. Hasn't a little bit of a pen throw if you're Chris Ballard. Yeah. See, now we were talking about maybe that they would get Chubb and at the Colts, and the Colts are now on

the clock. There were at the sixth pick so far just recapping Baker Mayfield to the Cleveland Browns, say Kwon Barkley to the Giants, and then you have Sam Darnold, the quarterback from usc goes to the New York Jets. Denzel Ward, the very talented cornerback from Ohio State, is in Cleveland, and the Denver Broncos have just selected Bradley Chubb, the defensive end from North Carolina State. So we will see. It looks like to me that the pick is in

for the Indianapolis Colts. This this is gonna be an interesting pick because the Colts have so many areas. That's a bad roster, and that is a that is a bad roster. It's a roster that we saw in the preseason and I'll tell you what it was. It was not very good and the ballard will have his hands full, but he knows how to pick. He likes to draft, and so he will find a way to uh to do some things to try and improve his team defensive end. We talked about that they just lost Chubb. You know,

linebacker is a situation. Is this is this too early for Smith? I'm taking see I want, I want Quentin Nelson. See no, but you're you're yeah, you figured it out, okay, that the best player in the draft is here at six. You have your team sucks, and you have a quarterback with a gimpie shoulder. I will say I think he will be surprised if it's not Quenton Nelson a Roquan Smith. I think it should be one of those two, but

more so Quentin Nelson and I love Roquan Smith. But man, that's tough because I again, I think Roquan Smith is a perfect fit for what they want to do on defense. But you're talking about Andrew Luck who hasn't played in a while because of injury. Yeah, that offensive line was so bad, huh. I mean Jakoby were said he had no chance. You watch those games, I mean he is

getting hit. If you're order back some help. Yeah, I think clearly this this to me if they don't, if they don't take Nelson here and I and I you know, I'm okay with Smith. I have no problem with Smith. Smith, but man that it just seems obvious to me. Well, we'll see. Here comes the commissioner. He's heading for the podium. The Colts about to make their pick. It's the sixth overall. Here you go to a lot of a lot of teams not overthinking it right now. And I like that, right,

just do what makes sense. The Colts just got the best player in the draft. Yeah, I thought so too. I thought so too. And you know, as much as I as much as I love Roquan Smith, I think this is a heck of a pick. And he was my he was my top radio player on my top of the top fifty. I think he's will immediately come in. He he could have a very similar career to what

we've seen with Sack Martin, that type of guy. One of my oldest and dearest friends is a die hard Colts fan, and he was texting me this morning just saying, like, if if they have a chance to draft Quintin Nelson and they don't do it. I'm gonna lose my damn mind. So way to go, Ryan, and I just don't don't overthink it, don't overthink it. Just just draft the draft. You have the need, The best player in the draft is there at six, and just just pull the trigger.

It's easy. Chris Ballard, you know last year one of the best players that draft fell to him, Mallie Cookery happens again this year. Hopefully better injury luck um with Nelson, But Colts are a better team, there's no question. And if you're Andrew Luck, you're fist pumping because you just got a guy that's can help protect you. That's absolutely right. What I want to know is, look who's on the

clock right now. The Buccaneers dwin. This is a big one. Yeah, because if it's not durrwin, can we start thinking about the unthinkable? Well, okay, just to give you a little heads up, what's going on. Okay, the curtain is down on the camera. Point, the curtain is down on the camera and it's been down now for a while. And we just have a trade. And so you think, well, we do have a trade. We do have a trade.

The Buffalo Bills are just traded up, hey, number seven, So the Buffalo Bills have now chair going up to their quarterback. Yeah, okay, there, Derwin James survives another pick. Okay, so Dane Bruglo unless unless the Bills are going up for Derwin James, we don't. I'm assuming it's a quarterback. Shout up, you know, as it will be a quarterback. Okay, it still shows that the Buccaneers are on the clock at at at five fifteen left in the pick or

left at the time on the clock. Let's see if in fact, again, Dan, you feel like that the Buffo, the Buffalo Bills have now found a way to get here to the seventh spot. You're moving up from twelve to seven. Um, that's a lot easier to fathom than the package that would have taken to move up from twelve to four or two. So you move up to seven. Uh, it's a three hundred point. That's a three hundred point

difference right there on the trade chart. And so you're is at their third what's sixty five or sixty five is worth two sixty five? Maybe he took sixty five and maybe a throw in later in the draft to get done. Absolutely, And so if I'm I'm who's there, guys that Josh Allen is a Josh Rosen, is Lamar Jackson? Who who's their guy that I know? Who? I mean? I know I would take Rosen, That's who I would take.

You're Josh Allen. You talk about the outdoor, the cold, Well, no, I know, I know, But I'm talking about my highest rated quarterback. Sure, I'm talking about my highest rated guy. So if it's me on my board and they take and they take Josh Rose, I keep saying that he's Matt Ryan to me, Yeah, he is Matt Ryan to me. And they they traded up to get in front of Miami and eleven Ryan to get in front of maybe in Arizona or Baltimore Chargers, one of these other teams

looking at trade up for the quarterback. So if he's Matt Ryan, signed me up. Yeah, Okay, So we again we think this is that we think that this yes, but Buffalo has now been put on the clock. We're all thinking that it is a quarterback. We talked about it was potentially pick sixty five, right, Dane three hundred points difference on the on the trade chart to go from uh to go from twelve to seven and pick sixty five is what the Bill's got from the Browns

and the Tyrod Taylor deal exactly right. So that pick is worth two hundred and sixty five points. So we will see what happens here. They're showing now that that they're showing Josh Rosen right now, he looks very concerned about the situation and gets cold there. Yeah, he's thinking, oh my gosh. But maybe maybe maybe this is one of those things. Maybe my cold weather quarterback three comes

into play here. But we will see. I'm honestly, I'm just looking, Okay, it's your trades official, Chicago, San fran Oakland, Miami, before you get to Tampa Bay. I'm looking at teams that might want a safety in that range. I'm trying to push my guy down the board. You're trying to get You're trying to get somebody too. I'm trying. I'm not trying to get them to me. I'm trying back to Tampa. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying, that Tampa has put themselves in a position it's a time to

call the Dolphins. I think I'm on the phone with the Dolphins. If you're interesting in road, Quand Smith then once again, guys, Well the ladies out there thinking Derwin James. But that's a good point. Roquan Smith is still there too. Yeah, well I'd be surprised Roke one doesn't go wait at Chicago the next pick. Okay, well we'll see. I mean if if these guys all of a a sudden, but you're right, Derwin James, If Derwin Jamie, if you can find a way to get to Miami, you know that that would

maybe assured. And the curtain has been down on the war room camp for quite a bit, so you know, maybe they're talking about some situations right here for a potential trade. So again, Buffalo Bills on the clock, the picks in and uh at So we will see. If you look at the Buffalo Bills and we've talked about some of their team needs, Dane is uh been very adamant they've traded up for to try and grab a quarterback. I keep going back to what you've been saying about

Josh Allen and Cleveland. Yeah, what you kept harping on was the outdoors elements. You can you can actually scout tape of Josh Allen playing in snow. Yeah, and that's going to appeal Litt Buffalo, Buffalo, November. I watched the game against the cold last year where it was you couldn't even see the field it was snow and so hot. Right, yeah, so who I mean, Jacobe bursts from North Carolina. I hate that. That's so dumb, so I keep going back to it, Buffalo. I mean, obviously that's not the uh

A little bit. Yeah, Well, at this point in the draft with the seventh overall pick, sure, I'm not saying I would take Josh Allen, but I think that that might be what Buffalo is thinking. You know, you're taking the big, sturdy guy, that Ben Roethlisberger type of mold in terms of the jam Kellys, Yeah you guys, I mean, yeah, that can withstand the frigid air and the cold. Exactly. It's cold up there too. All right, Commission's walking to the podium. Let's see you the Buffalo Bills take seventh

pick overall. There you go. They went up and got their gun, eager to see what they gave up. It was. We were just kind of speculating sixty five and maybe something else if they had to do something a little a little more than that, but not a surprising pick here. It doesn't sound like they're parting with twenty two though, No, no way, not to give a five spots maybe one

of the seconds they have. But man, if you're a Buffalo, you're cautiously optimistic here, you know, I mean Josh Allen more surprising him going where he did or where where Baker Mayfield went. I'm just saying that first overall, right, that's Baker, Yeah, I don't. I mean, we we knew Josh Allen was going top ten somewhere, so for him to be at seven is not shocking at me. That's that's fair Baker. I was thinking anywhere from three to eleven.

So wow, this is crazy my rankings for on my board Mayfield, I mean, it's gone flip, you know, as far as it's Mayfield went first, Darnold second, and now Allan and I have him. But this inverted in the inverted way. This is so much fun though, because again this is affecting everything from here on out. So now you know, Chicago, do they take a look at Roquan Smith. Maybe you know, Derwin James was so cond like he

was so he was mocked to Tampa so often. Now they have a shot at him if they want him, and then that and now Josh Rosen, you would guess probably is available for Miami. Yeah. Yeah, it might be a great fit for him too. It might be an absolutely great fit for him. All right, day, tell me why again, Josh Shellen. Why does he have a chance in Buffalo? Well, it's it all centers on the physical traits he can his arm talent is rare. You don't just find guys like that. And I think you're optimistic

because of the person you're getting the character. I mean, he's a football, he's all in. You worry about the accuracy, you worry about the decision making. He needs to develop in those areas, there's no question. But with better coaching and time to develop. Because with Aji McCarron there, he's not gonna be pressing in the action from day one.

Asia McCarron can cradle that job for the next however long it takes until Josh Allen's ready, because it's very important for a player like this not to be thrust in the action. Sam Darnold, if he needs to play right away, he could do that. Should feel okay. Josh Allen not quite the same. He needs to be brought along at his own pace, and when he's ready, that's when you put him in. Not going to force it. Well,

it's just to recap again the last three picks. The Denver Broncos have selected Bradley Chubb, the defensive end from North Carolina State, that was at the fifth overall pick. The Colts at the sixth they've just taken Quentin Nelson, the guard from Notre Dame. We all love that pick. And now we understand what the Buffalo Bills. They make a small trade up, they go up five spots to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Will see what in fact that

the Buccaneers pick up in that trade. We kind of feel like that part of the trade will be that third round pick to start the third round. It will be pick of excuse me, to be pick sixty five, so that'll be three sixty five. We think that will be part of the trade that that the Bills made. Do you like what the Bills did there? Do you like what I mean seeing the quarterback and you're just not a fan of the player at all? Are Yes, I'm not a fan of the player. I'm certainly not

a fan of trading up for the player. Okay, I mean which eight I mean what I mean it's the Bills pick to use. Well, I mean no, I just I mean I just sit Yeah, I get that. I mean, quarterback is everything in this league. So right, you gotta take your chances. I'm gonna be fascinated to watch and see how it plays out, because again, everything I said about him not needing to get on the field. You know, the Josh Allen we saw, Well here here they get

the two tell me the two second round picks. Seconds. Okay, what fifty three and fifty six? Okay, fifty three and fifty six. So there you go. That's a that now belongs. Fifty three belongs to Tampa Bay, and then fifty six. So let's kind of look at that evaluate that trade a little bit. That's a total of seven hundred and ten points right there on that trade if you add those two together. If I think, if my math is correct, three seventy three forty is that seven ten? Real quick?

I know, I'm so that's a that's a that's a had to overpay for to get the quarterback. They had to overpay to get the quarterback, which most trades are to get when you get it trying to trade it for a quarterback, you have to overpay. I don't know how you. I just do not know how you. You know the you look at that situation and which quarterback do you feel better about, Josh Allen or EJ Manuel? Just Josh Allen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. EJ Manuel is like

a fourth round pick. He should have been Josh Allen. There's a point in the first round where I would take a chance in Josh Allen at this early, but there was a point. Yeah. I hate the thought of taking a chance on a guy that you're trading up into the top ten to get. Yeah, oh, I agree. I would not have done this move. If I'm Pittsburgh sitting there at twenty seven or whatever, I would have made rolled the dice on Josh Allen. There we go. But I'm not you know, I don't think he's EJ

Manuel is terrible. Yeah, yeah. It says a lot when Dane is willing to speak so author like, so draft is so bad? It really well they went back and looked at it the other day. Do you think that? Do you think Buffalo feels like they got out cheap on this one to make the court to make the trade I mean, I mean, if you mean we've kind of talked about them trying to get up in you know,

for them, we say it's an overpay. I mean all they had to really make up was look at they actually kicked in the extras two is what they do to get this thing done. Look at Buffalo. Who's their brain trust? Uh? I mean their general manager? Uh? I mean Sean McDermott, head coach, Sure, Brandon Bean GM. They came up through Carolina. You gotta pick, and we gotta pick a pick in Chicago. Here we go. Then you an outside linebacker in Chicago. Get ready, there you go.

It's a great pick. Okay. Roquan Smith one of our favorite players here on the Draft Show. Honestly, if he can't be a cowboy, which was never possible, I love I just love the thought of this badass playing at Soldier Field wearing those awesome uniforms with the you know, gash on the sleeve. Yeah, you got snow flying like the turf is on your arms because you're just hitting the ground every play. Like, I just that's awesome. I love this pick. I love that play. If you're if

you're the Bears, you have to feel good about this. Um, I think you felt good. Quittin Nelson, Denzel Ward one of those guys we're gonna fall to you. And here it was Roquan Smith, who one of the best players in this draft. Yeah, and we all love. I mean, this is a guy that never comes off the field. I mean he I mean he is going to play every single snap, run, hit, get to the ball, cover, He's going to be a leader. You're Chicago, this is a this is a good start for them. I mean

they last year. You look at Mike Mike Singletary. Yeah, they drafted last year with Mitchell Trubisky. And then you know Adam chan the tight end. It was there, Eddie Jackson, you know, Tarik Cohen, I mean it was you know, Cohen was a really good pick. But anyway, so Roquan Smith, the linebacker, very talented linebacker from Georgia, is now with the Chicago Bears. Okay, that puts the San Francisco forty nine ers on the clock. They've got about five minutes

and forty seconds to deal with with that. We've kind of thought along the second linebacker might be the guy that goes here, right. Yeah, when we talk about Edmonds, another player they brought in that they like quite a bit, as Minka Fitzpatrick. There you go. Um it's and this is not a knock on him, but like I just forget about him, and it's like he's like the forgotten guy, Like he's a stud. Yeah, he has a stud number two on my board, and I know I'm hiring him

the most. But I think you're looking at Edmunds or if Fitzpatrick here. That makes a lot of sense. I think one other. I think you have to include pass rusher here. Yea, they want a pass rusher back. I agree with you on that might come down to who they like better, Marcus Davenport or Harold Nandry. Oh. Nine feels high for Marcus Davenport. That's literally I was about to say, yeah, but who who fits? Like who could you draft? I'm the edge right now. Davenports number eleven

on my board, so it got him in that range. Yeah, it's not a huge jump for me, but I get people who have the reservations. Fifteen feels much more comfortable for Davenport for me, but hey, I don't know. Oh, Dane's right though. They did visit Mika Fitzpatrick. Yeah, and they like him, I know they do. Yeah, for a fact, they like MIKEA. Fitzpatrick enough to take him here. I don't know, we'll see, but uh, it's definitely a name that is being discussed. So yes, the forty nine ers

are on the clock again. As we said, we are waiting that this is the ninth overall selection the draft. Over on the over on the Twitter sphere, um Ian Rappaport is saying the Bucks might be trying to come back up because we got to we linked him to Derwin so much like they're willing to trade away from him, but not too far. Well, they they got they got an overpay on the on the pick, they got really basically an extra second round pick. Yeah, sure is what

they did. So you know, I mean that that's uh, that is good that they go use that they use that one back up. Yeah, that's that one kind of snuck under the radar for me right there. I was looking more in the third to try and get the three hundred point difference. But that they they you to make that move. They got the second that the second of the second round picks for the Buffalo to kick those in, so you know, good for them to make

that that trade. But we've talked about this, so you don't think you don't think it's going to be Edmunds. You don't think that. I mean, I think he's in the mix. I mean Edmund's pass Rusher. It seems like this, it seemed like this is the one that every every mock draft, it was always Edmunds here. It was always him, always him. People connect the dots with Ruben Foster and yeah, who he might never play in the NFL again, who knows, and even if he does come back, might not be

for San Francisco. So it makes sense why you know we're linking Edmund's there, But um, you can't rule out Minka and we can't rule out pass Rusher. I think, Okay, where do you play Minka? Where do we figure that out? Is he can still be the slot corner type guy for this team. He's probably playing nickel. You have Richard Sherman and kell Of Witherspoon on the outside exactly, you insert Minka and the nickel. I think you feel pretty good about that. Yeah, I mean that that's a lot

of height and length at your corner back position. Yeah. And they've and then they've also they're they're going to try Ward at corner to help, but you know, that makes an issue at safety for them as well, So it's not really clear. Again, I would like to think that, uh, you know that we have a plan for this, but here we go San Francisco. Is their selection is in ah, hey at our first big time surprise in the night while Baker obviously, but uh, I don't I heard Oakland

so much? Well that means Trent Brown's gone. Yeah, well he's been rumored to be a trade guy there. Yeah, yeah, they're going to trade him then if they're drafting Mike McGlinchey and Staley is thirty three years old too, so yeah, this is this is this you gotta protect Jimmy g right, absolutely have to. So yeah, this was kind of one of those sneaky needs that they had. But here goes the best offensive tackle, Mike McGlinchey off the board to

the San Francisco forty nine ers. And again Dane Bruger was all over this when they talked about, you know, with Brown again being a rumored a trade guy and then with Stanley being thirty three years old, they need to add a little bit more a better quality of player. A little bit more depth there. And Mike McGlinchey surely is that Dane talk about him a little bit and what she liked about him at a Notre Dame. Well, he's got experienced on the right side and the left side.

Played right side when Ronnie Stanley was there. Ronnie Stanley got drafted in the first round at top ten to the Baltimore Ravens two years ago, moves over to the left side, and that Notre Dame pipeline at left tackle continues. Zach Martin Ronnie Stanley. People argue about like position you Notre Dame with the O line. It's pretty sick, man, It is ridiculous. And so here we are, Mike McGlinchey going to the forty nine ers, and I guess this means Trent Browns right days are numbered, I would I

would guess I mean Mike mcglinchi. I think could play guard until he's needed at tackle. That's possible, but I think it's more likely we see a trade here with Trent and Brown at some point over this weekend, traded for draft picks. You know what's funny is and we were all there to watch that stupid coin toss at the combine, that's right, And I mean and the Raiders have been linked to Mike McGlinchey for at least a

couple of weeks. So to think that a coin toss decides, you know, whether this guy in which side of the bay he ends up on is kind of funny. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good point, um, because he had Donald Penn's thirty five years old left tackle in Oakland. So Mike Glinchi was definitely in play. So now with the Raiders at ten, I mean Fitzpatrick's available. Yeah, do we have anyone trying to trade up to get in front of Miami to get the quarterback? Well, I'm looking

right now here's the trade. There you go Rosen or Lamar Jackson? Could could Lamar Jackson go ahead of Rosen? That would be surprising, you think? So that would be surprised If five minutes I told you, Mike mcglinch, you is definitely going nine, right, you would hear the same thing. You're right, Well, okay, let's let's out there. Let's weigh this. Then let's what's way? Which way you think that they would go? I mean it's you know, you Steve Kime.

You know, he's been a longtime general manager out there. You think he goes for the dynamic guy or does he go for the guy that that's just pretty steady. And I know, I know he's not the coach there anymore. But Bruce arians gave. Oh he loves, yeah, he loves. He loved Lamar Jackson. He really really did. I mean, you look at the quarterbacks on that roster, uh with Sam Brideford, Mike Lennon, Josh Rosen would fit that, you know,

that type of quarterback. But Lamar Jackson, he's the complete wild card in this in this draft, no one knows, you know, where he's gonna go. A lot of teams like him. Do they like him enough to actually turn that card in? We're gonna find out here. So what kind of quarterback you think the Cardinals need to play in the NFC West? A good one? I mean, no, no, I know, but but think of think of the type would you know? Again, I'm trying to I'm trying to

get a game quarterback. They've had the quarterbacks they've had Kurt Warner, Christ and Palmer. Yeah, I mean, they've had the traditional pocket passer. Right, they got a legitimate running game there too with that with that bat, and I say, imagine putting Lamar Jackson back there with David Johnson kid. And that's what I was thinking. Yeah, do they want to go in the same direction though and get a pocket passer or they are they ready to switch it up?

You know? And that that's going to be the questionnaire. If ARIANS was there, I would say, that's the type of coach I want to give Lamar Jackson too, you know what I mean. But and I don't know, Steve Wilkes is he's a defensive guy. Yes, yes, yeah, Carolina, right, So you know, I don't know. Maybe they go with the safer pick. Well safer in terms of you know, you know more what you're getting and how he's going to adjust. I think they got to their GM will

make some move. I mean he obviously did here. He went up you know, a few spots to uh to grab a we think it's going to be a quarterback. I just I have a hard time believing this is Lamar because as I think you more content to let him kind of fall to you, you know, which I could be wrong, but I feel like if you're making this move, it's because you don't trust Josh Rosen to get past We missed something here? Could they be looking

at a corner? Could could this be I mean other than Patrick Peterson, they really don't have anything at the two and the three. No, you can get a corner later. You're trading up for the quarter. I have a hard time believe in you're doing this move knowing what they need right and again knowing that Miami is a team that likes Josh Rosen. It's hard for me to imagine that they're doing this for anything but a quarterback. And I mean, if I had to guess, I would say,

I think this is Rosen. I would agree. I think I think that he is the favorite to go here. And it makes sense again, Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer, Josh Rosen. I mean it's for the Cardinals. I mentioned it earlier. They have arguably the worst quarterback situation in the NFL thirty two out of thirty two, they might have the worst. Josh Rosen would certainly change that, and it'd be a fun quarterback competition in training camp. See those three quarterbacks

duke it out. Josh Rosen as a as a chance to be the guy there well, it seems like to me that that, you know, and I like what you're saying, Dave about Bruce Arians. I think Bruce Arians is still like he's not there anymore. That no, I know, But I like what you're saying about maybe that, Hey man, you gotta take this guy, don't you. I mean, don't you kind of you know he's he's talking about. Here we go, Okay, so it's saiders get a third out

of it. Yeah, so we get a third and the fifth right, third and the fifth on that one on the So what are the number one? What's the number right there? Three and O five seventy nine And I want to say it was one fifty two. Okay, So I just I couldn't see around the camera here. But so the Raiders will pick up that they moved. The Raiders moved down to fifteen. They pick up a third round pick and a fifth round pick. And so they're showing the the Arizona Cardinal War Room right now. I

the picks gotta be in there. All there. We go, Yeah, the picks in. We're just waiting for the commissioner to walk to the podium. We've we think it's going to be a quarterback here I threw out there. Hey, Sam and Josh have fun in Buffalo in New York. I'm gonna hang out in freaking Phoenix. You really do believe it's Rosen? Do you believe? Do you believe? Do you beats Jackson? I think it's Rosen. I think I thinks Rosen. That's why I would lean. I think you could get

Lamar Jackson at fifteen if that's what you wanted. If you want them, you gotta go get them. Though it's true, you're right, but I mean you only gave up a three and of five. Yeah, the Raiders must have wanted out of that pick. Oh, the Raiders, John Gruden, they probably him and Reggie were probably about to have a fist fight in the war room over who was going. And to go back to what we were talking about, I wonder how much the McGlinchey pick factored into that.

I mean, maybe that's the guy that had their heart set on sure and they're like, wor right, let's get out of here. Yeah, and you said, Dave, maybe one fifty two. It was it's one fifty two and seventy nine. There you go, you got it right there. That's absolutely right. So the Raiders do pick up that that would be a third round pick, and the commissioner's walking to the podium. So let's see what he has to say about the Arizona Cardinals at the tenth overall pick. There you go,

good job, Dan Burglar. All right, Josh Rosen, the quarterback from UCLA, he had a little bit of weight there in the green room at there at at and T Stadium, but he is heading two, heading to Pac twelve country. Aaron Rodgers says, you had a weight, shut up. He went ten overall. He went ten overall. So yes, Josh Rosen, Uh you like that fit. You know, he was my top rated quarterback. He was my he was my top guy. And he's gonna I think it's gonna be a good situation.

Just it's a huge sigh of relief for him. Just you see him just breathe and now put that smile on his face. So yeah, he's going to the desert and again close to uh, he's in a situation where he's uh, you know, he's played a lot of football out there with UCLA and it played at Arizona. They're gonna play in Washington, La. I mean that's that's a good that's a good spot for him to kind of be in some familiar surroundings for him. I could probably use a little bit of help. I mean, David David

Johnson's a great player. Larry Fitzgerald is on the He's to steal a phrase from you, he's like driving up to the eighteenth. Yeah, he's playing. He's playing that, he's playing the seventh. He's putting out at seventeen. Right. Yeah, he's gonna get his ball and head over the eighteenth. So you can use a little bit of help. Four quarterbacks in the top ten. What we mentioned this on the Draft Show. Almost every week, if you want a quarterback,

you need to go get him. Yeah. And except for the Browns, who could not trade up further than one, every other team that drafted a quarterback trade it up. Yeah. Yeah, so history tells us you want a quarterback, you better trade up for him. Okay, Well that means that the Arizona Cardinals again, they take Josh Rosen the quarterback. I just think watching him play and Matt Ryan, I mean I just see a guy that's see a guy that

took a lot of hits. There's some questions we we kind of went into some of the questions about him. Dane Brugler was absolutely right. He's had two known concussions. Dane has even talked about a shoulder that was a tennis injury that he had to give up. And so but I do know for a fact there are some concerns about that about his concussions. So we will see what in fact that happens with him. But the Arizona

trades up for their guy, and and here we go. Now, Okay, if you're the Dolphins, Lamar Jackson's sitting there, how enticing is that Ryan Tannehill's coming back off the ACL Ryan Tannehill has not proven to be a guy that can lead you to the playoffs. Yeah, that's interesting. Can I can I derail that for a second? And just I'm thinking about this big star that's on the wall behind you. Guys, Um you're picking nineteenth. Yeah, so you just saw a team give up a third and a fifth to jump

five spots. What you're thinking, Brian? You know what, I'm still I'm in that mode right now. And as we do a shift here, it's like hockey. It's like hockey here. Kevin Turner, Kevin Turner is the right guy to have here because I just read your tweet. Yeah yeah, let's have fun, right, So yeah, we pick up Kevin Turner from one oh five three the fan Kat Welcome to the Fray, Tremaine, m Tremaine, Edwin's Derwin James, and Minka Fitzpatrick are all hanging around right now. I just want

to throw that out there. You're gonna try to get me to trade, aren't you brought us? Is? No brought us? Is I'm the one trying to have this conversation because literally, it just it only costs a third and a fifth to go five spots exactly. No, if you're okay, again, the war room cam has been covered for quite oh yeah, quite a bit. Right now, let's see if in fact it stays covered for them to go We've talked about this, for them to go to uh to Miami, it'd be

a straight two. Now again, the Oakland Oakland should have on their trade. They end up getting a three and to five. Oakland on the chart, should got a two and a five. Yeah, and they got a three and five instead. That might have been a little bit of

a panic picks in for the Dolphins. So we're gonna, We're gonna, we're gonna select somebody here, so can't go to Dolphins now the next team would be well, and then if you want Derwin James, I mean, the team that's been linked to him all along is about to be on the clock. So I don't know if that's realistic. Katie, what do you your your thoughts right now? I mean, I know that we're bringing in here. I mean, you've been on the other side on one oh five three?

Has it been the way you thought? How's that kind of transpired for you? You know, I was not surprised at all by the Baker Mayfield thing, but the Denzel Ward thing caught me off guard a little bit. I thought Chubb and Miles Garrett together was too much to pass up on and for them to go cornerback, which they need help in their secondary. They absolutely have to have secondary help. But it's just not the direction I thought that things were gonna go. And it's it's kind

of turned the whole draft upside down. It has and uh, again we're just waiting on the Dolphins pick there at at eleven. It is, it is, in fact, we're waiting again. It is. Uh, it's like the commissioner. Yeah, he's going to walk to the podium, so let's see who in fact coming from He's coming from there. So yeah, let's see Commissier Goodell for the Dolphins pick at eleven Mica Fitzpatrick. I like that he said defensive back. Yeah, they were

trying to figure out where to play. That's a lot of teams had questions about where to play Mika Fitzpatrick. Do you play him as a slot corner? Do you play him, you know, just as a safety? But yeah, they've kind of, uh, they've kind of said, Okay, we're gonna list him as a defensive back and go from there. Uh. And they continue to put stock in Ryan Tannehill. Yeah, because I thought that might be the spot where they would have to take a quarterback, but I guess not. Yeah.

I mean and if you look at if you look at what they've they've talked about, they're if you look at the Dolphins need they've drilled the Dolphins or the media down, there's drilled the Dolphins about a true middle of the field safety. After you know, Adam Guy said he didn't feel like his two safeties Jones and McDonald didn't mesh very well, so is this a situation where

Mica Fitzpatrick is going to play safety? You know, and but we've also talked about you know, I think well that, I mean, this is a you know, and Dane, like Dane said, he's higher than him on most but you just said the number two guy on his board. Yeah. It much like the Broncos with Bradley Chubb. You take the best player there, figure out where he's gonna play later. You can play safety, he could play corner. You could

do them a little bit of everything. How far do you think Lamar Jackson falls now the fifth quarterback of the bunch. It's a really good point because I would have said he doesn't fall further than Arizona, And now Arizona doesn't. They picked, they they got their quarterback. Are a chance he makes it passed or the Cowboys pick at nineteen? There's definitely a chance. But what about Baltimore? Yeah,

Chargers need to consider it too, right. I think I think the Chargers are clearly in play here on this one. I am I weird if I think they don't want that type of quarterback though, pro style. I mean, Lamar Jackson's a pro style quarter and I and you're right. He actolutely. He keeps strange to some people, but he is he can play from the pocket. You're absolutely right, that's that's not fair of me. I'm just thinking I can't imagine the Chargers playing with a quarterback who can run.

I mean, I'm so like, Philip Rivers is the most statuesque quarterback in the league. That dude can't scramble for his life, So that would that would be interesting. But yeah, I mean Baltimore, the Chargers, well, the Chargers. I mean again, there's you know, Philip Rivers, He's having to make those trips from San Diego to la If it's not Baltimore or the Chargers, then then I'm thinking New England is the next most likely landing spot. Can we see a New England up? Yeah, I set that at the start

of the show. Well, I'm with you, I'm with you. Is that why Lamar Jackson's well, and he didn't really have a lot of reps? Is that why Lamar Jackson's reps? We're telling other teams, oh yeah, we're not gonna meet with you, or not getting back to teams about meetings. Do you think New England did under the table Hey, hey, don't don't meet with anyone else, nobody. We're gonna come get you. Nobody likes to conspiracy theory more than you. It makes sense, though, doesn't it It does? Doesn't it

make a lot of sense? It does. We'll come get you. You don't, don't meet with anyone else. We'll come get you, man. Yeah. And they got the ammunition to do it, the inventory. They got the four picks in the first two rounds. This fun, boys, let's let's you're getting me off track here, because Tampa Bay is on the clock. Tampa Bay is Not only is Tampa Bay on the clock, but Tampa Bay is very strongly linked to the player that I

want more than any other. Yeah, and if he doesn't go here, then things are interesting for me in Cowboyland. Now the war room is covered up, so I have no idea if agree with me, But man, I'm man in some phones right now. Oh we're back, okay, Yeah, the war is back. Does not look like a war room that is bustling with activity either. No, and it's getting close to their pick, well, actually seven picks away from the cowboys. Everybody looks very locked in to what's

going on right there. No real surprise. Dave was talking about really no big activity. If if you're I mean, if you're talking about having a trade, somebody would be on the phone right now, you would have you'd probably have a little bit of a huddle maybe. Yeah. And by the way, the war room is uh, the war room, mccam is there. It's inside the Ford Center at the start here in Frisco. So I just want to get

that in there for that. Will McClay working on some notes he might be working on the up and down chart here, he's got that again. That the legal sheet of paper he's trying to explain to it looks like to Jason Garrett, uh, you know what it might cost to go up and get somebody picks in from Tampa. By the way, we are focused right now on the Cowboys war room. If it's not Derwin, what are we thinking here for Tampa Bay? Could they go defensive line? Yeah?

Could this? Could they? Marcus Davenport? Uh, well, maybe beef it up in the middle a little bit. Yeah, yeah, that's what alongside McCoy right, Okay, Well, now here the can the camera. They must be listening to our broadcast. Hey, they're talking about it. That camera cover the camera up. So yeah, but the picks in for Tampa and so we will we'll see who in fact that is. But i'd like to you know, Vinavea is an interesting thought

right here, Katie, I really want him at nineteen. Yeah, I mean, I think that's where the Cowboys were kind of looking at their charts and seeing where could they can they get to? Can they get up to you know, can they get the Green Bay and get you know, green Bay was kind of hunting rush edge players and they were also hunting. Now could they get Davenport at nineteen? Is that? Is that too much of a string considerate? Oh? Green Bay? Green Bay? Green Bay? Yeah? I think they could.

I mean, who do you think goes first? Landry or Davenport? Should be Landers should be Landry, But I think Davenport would probably go before. And you know, we were talking at the top of the show. Maybe the Cowboys don't feel as strongly about Harold Landry as we think they should. I mean, right, that's the trickiest thing about all this is trying to balance your own evaluations of these guys with what they think, because they're ultimately the ones that

make the call. Okay, the commissioners walk into the podium, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the twelfth pick overall, will make that selection. Are he is all right, Dave suit he's wearing Yeah, nice call Katie on that when you talked about that, and so look at that man, what a great look. They had two areas. Yeah, they needed to get better and it was on the defensive line or in the secondary. Yeah, they sure did so. Again

and we talked about this on the Draft show. While back, David, it looks like a little bit of a slide for Derwin James here you called it people questioning, uh a, he had a knee in the past. The effort, fair type attitude on the field. People don't want an all programs I disagree with as well. Can I ask you a question about another player who's still on the board, Okay, go ahead. Would the Cowboys have interest in linebacker Tremaine

Edmonds if he keeps falling? Helly see That's where I'm kind of yeah, but this and again it's tricky because again you're talking about guys that they weren't brought in on visits. He didn't hear a whole lot. Yeah, I wonder how much of that is because they didn't think they had a shot at him. He's just too good to pass. Okay, Yeah, and we're back. We're back from the uh. They've taken the cover off, so no, nobody working on this. Nobody here is surprised to see va

Vea go. No, but it still sucks. Do they like Vanderesh more than Tremaine Edmonds? That's the thing, I mean, I don't know. They've been linked to vander Esh more than almost any other player. We know they like him a lot, do they? Are they not talking about Edmunds because they didn't think they could get him or because they don't like him? I don't know. I mean the only way to figure that out is to wait and

see what happens. Because I think just about every mock I've ever seen didn't have Edmunds falling past Miami and no, no, he was, and I always saw him like ended up at San Francisco at nine exactly. He's been He's been thought of as a consensus top ten guy for a long time. Well, there's your defensive line for Tampa, Jason Pierre, Paul Gerald McCoy, Vita Vea involved there on that offensive, on that defensive line. That's pretty fun. Yeah, that's pretty

fun right there. It is a pretty fun group right there. Okay, we're looking in the war room once again. Washington is on the clock at thirteen right now. They got about five minutes twenty seconds before they have to turn in their card. Jerry Jones Stephen Jones are talking right now, kind of huddled up there. Jason Garrett is following the dre straight away. Everybody looks very very calm in there

for the situation they might be thinking about. Okay, do they Does it come down to where you have to take Katie? Where you take uh, you know, the two players where where we've been you've mentioned, you know, with the Derwin, James and Edmunds? Who you know, is there a possibility of a of a trade up? I think the guy that would trade up four would be James. But I think so too. But maybe you're gonna sit

and let the ride this thing. We haven't been talking about Edmunds because we didn't feel like he was gonna be there. Okay, but let's all right, maybe we're going a little ahead of ourselves. Who cares we gotta fill five hours? We had six picks away. Yeah, we're pretty close, but maybe they don't like ed I mean, okay, this is amateur diagnosis, but can Edmunds do both? Yeah? I think I think you could play. Yeah, he screams Mike

to me. Oh yeah, he's a big physical guy. And uh nobody has appeared yet into the war, many coaches or anything. But yeah, you who do you think could do both better? But beween him and Layton Vandert give me Edmond. I knew you were gonna say, yeah, it's I don't Yeah, I mean I have Edmonds is a first round guy on my board. I just think he mean you look at him, the way he plays the run hit factor right there. Yeah, I mean, no, you gotta again, you know you're you want big physical guys.

That could be uh you know, it could be part of that. I really I haven't, you know, Like I keep saying, we barely talked about Edmonds because none of us thought he would still be available. Yeah, but and we might still lose him here and just a little bit. He's a guy. He's a guy where when you fire up the tape and start watching it, you're like, oh yeah, oh hi, I will say, with Washington on the clock, right now, A team that could use they could have

used defensive line help again and they vey as gone. Yeah, cornerback could be something they have Josh Norman. We know they signed Orlando Scandrid, but they did have to pay a price of trading Fuller away to the Chiefs to get Alex Smith. So cornerback makes a lot of sense. Orlando Scander's not stopping you from doing something in the draft. Absolutely not. Well let me ask you this though, Alexander like Alexander more than say Hughes. I like Hughes more personally,

but it's really close, you know for me. Um, you know, Hugh's kind of more of a get in your face with Josh Norman locking up one side of the field. I like Hughes to lock up the other side of the field. Yeah, but Alexander's very good. Um, they could used to edge help too, right, how about okay, how about this could okay picks in you see, maybe this could okay too early for one of these sinners for Daniels.

I mean, if if you think about it, I mean, they lost, they lost long and then they have you know, problems at guard. Is this is this too early for an offensive lineman here, I'm just throwing out another name. I mean, and then all these teams know if they want that offensive lineman, they need to get them early. They need to get them today if they need it. I've never once believed this, But another another guy that's had a lot of smoke with the Redskins is Darius Guys.

I've never understood that. But I mean, so I'm considering all my options here. I'll tell you what I mean. It's it's fascinated again. I just kind of I'm wondering about the slide a little bit here with uh with Edmonds, I really am. I mean, and and maybe the Cowboys might catch a break. We'll see how it all, uh, we'll see how it all transpires here. The Redskins Pick is in. We're just waiting for the commissioner to uh

to go to the podium and make it. And he is on his way, So let's go there for the washing Redskins thirteenth overall. Pick. I think he's in the crowd kind of wondering, say this more bad camera worker. Is he gonna do this from the stand? Is he is he gonna? Is he coming from the ceiling. That's what I want to know, beazing. I don't say that. Yeah, don't say that. Here we go, we're trying to get

and the commissioners walking here he comes. Hey, yes, wow, So worst run defense in the league and they need to add a run stopping defensive tackle. They failed addressed this a year ago. So man, uh yeah, we got Ziggie Hood is thirty one years old. So durn Payne, he's gonna prepare it now with his old Alabama teammate, uh from the from last year, Jonathan Allen. So you're gonna get that national championship type of cover H love connection.

And I don't mean I think durn Paine's a hell of a player, don't get me wrong, But like I'm thinking about the Cowboys here, and that's a guy that I don't think they are super interested in taking him nineteenth. I am, I'm not super interested in taking him nineteenth. So Harold Landry, come on down, Derwin James, come on down, Tremaine Edmonds, come on down. Like there's a it's starting to look like there's a I mean, there's at least a decent chance that a guy we didn't think was

gonna be there is gonna be there. Sure, and we had early Yeah, we had a bunch of different names. We need Lamar Jackson to go somewhere in these next four or five picks. Well, I don't think you know, Katie, you know you follow the Green Bay Packers pretty strongly. Yeah, my family, big Packer fans. And Okay, and and they're now on the they're now on the clock at the at fourteen. Is this is we've we've kind of talked about Davenport from UT San Antonio as being that guy.

Is is in fact? Or are we still looking at one of the cornerbacks? Oh, here's the trade. Hey, here we go. They're gonna I just said we needed Lamar to go. Yeah, oh wow, here we go. There. We talked about it before this, before the show that the team that was gonna move up we thought would be the New Orleans Saints. Wait, god, we're so smart. We said this was gonna happen. Yeah, how about that coming up all the way from twenty seven up to fourteen. Okay, So here we go, we got a trade. Saints are

on the clock. This is the Packers. Okay, Now, Katie, the Packers are going to back out of here and they're gonna go and as they've been known to do, they're gonna go all the way down to the twenty. We'll see what they get out of the trade. This puts the Saints now on the clock. We think this is for Lamar Jackson. And there's no questions it is. It goes from twenty seven to fourteen to draft anything else. Yeah, you just don't And it makes sense for the Saints.

Drew Brees signed a two year extension, but he's he's turning forty soon. He's not gonna play forever. You get a five year option on it, and oh hey, we're talking about Bruce arians Yeah. You think Sean Payton can do a thing or two with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, this is I love this pick for the Saints. I know. I mean that's where I'm from. I would think that a lot of people down in New Orleans are going to be pumped about this. You think they give up

next years one? It's got to be something, right. I wonder if they did that, If they give up next years one, I mean, that's the price you pay for jumping up that far to get quarterback. Yeah, you're you've you've gone, You've gone. Uh man, that's amazing. You get thirteen picks. Give the Cardinals in the Saints credit if this is for Lamar Jackson, the Cardinal, the Saints for not sitting on their hands like year sure, making the move, go up and get your next quarterbacks? You'd rather have

Lamar Jackson or Pat Mahomes. I'm serious, I don't, I don't know. I think I had I had Jackson hire giving Lamar Jackson, Yeah, I had, I had Jackson higher. And I think Pat Mahomes is going to be a hell of a quarterback too. I kind of had Pat Mahomes in at Baker Mayfield spot in the second round right there. Yeah, you know, nothing, nothing is for certain

in the NFL. But the Saints were a wonky Hail Mary away from the NFC title game with the roster that they have right now, and they need o Lione help. They could use an edge rusher. But if you have a chance to secure you know, it's you know, we're talking about the Pats trading up for Lamar Jackson. Sure, how about the Saints? You mean, like I said, Drew Brees is one of these days he's going to be done. And this gives you a guy who can step in

and take care of it. Probably felt they had to get in front of Baltimore and the Chargers and had to find someone in New England for that. Man Oakland at fifteen, okay, was probably not going to trade back again. Yeah, and you're trying to get in front of the teams at sixteen and seventeen and beat New England to the punch. So New Orleans waited until the proper time to make this deal. We'll see how much, you know, inventory they

had to give up to Green Bay. What's ironic is that the rumor was the Packers, we're going to try to trade up into the top ten and make a splash, right, you know new management Ted Thompson's not there anymore, and they do the exact opposite. But I have a feeling they are gonna get a nice little price tag. I believe Green Bay had more picks than anyone in this draft.

So that's true. They could be a candidate to use at twenty seven, to use what they've got to move back up and get help, whether it be Harold Landry, Marcus Davenporter, one of the cornerbacks. But you start to look at the Derwin James issue too, So if we presume that Lamar Jackson gets to the Saints at fourteen, we are now at fifteen, which would give you pick eighty one range if you wanted to trade up and

make a play. Yeah, yeah, yes, I'm honestly I'm bummed that the war room is cover this thing up and start making some calls. Yeah, it looks like to me that nobody is working a phone. Will McClay the right, I was gonna say, Obviously, Jerry and Stephen are gonna talk anytime the Cowboys make a phone call. But Will McClay is the guy that makes that call. Yeah, and I think there if that Stephen Jones, I mean, I

think Will McClay will recommend. Here. Here's the thing. Let's see the twenty set in the fifth round, and there you go, there's a first round pick from next year. Yeah, so that is not that high to me, especially if I'm the Saints. I'm expecting to pick twenty fifth or later, you know what I mean. So that was a fifth round pick day. Did you see what else went this year? Twenty seven? A fifth this year and next year's first. Okay, so it was it was a fifth round pick that

goes to Green Bay and next year's one. So the kicker, that whole thing is next year's one. Right, that's now the pat I mean, for all intents and purposes, you're just giving up next year's one. I'm okay a fifth fifth round pick, big deal, right, that's and like I said, the Saints should be expecting to pick twenty fifth or later and next year's draft, so it ain't like they're expecting to part ways with pick five and some of the things that you might have issues with Lamar Jackson.

I think he's he's ready to play, but he could sit, learn the verbiage of the offense, get comfortable and confident within a system they're in New Orleans, and then step in and be ready to go. Maybe you play them at receiver for a year. No kidding, get out of here, bullion kidding. Yeah, it's really we're inside. We're inside of two minutes, you know for this and now the pick definitely is in. Uh they're talking about They even threw

Marcus Davenport's name up there on the screen. I don't know what that would be all about for the Saints, but let's see, maybe they felt like though we could Davenport hell Oakland. No, I think that this has got to be for the quarterback. I mean, I mean you said it emphatically from twenty seven. Yeah, for next year's one fourteen, it's got to be for Jackson. Absolutely, it

has to be for Jackson. It's the only thing it can be, right, It's got to be the only Okay, Well, the pick is in and we'll see in fact act what happened. Man, I mean, this has been kind of fun with this. We talked about this pre draft, we talked about this, We went on the air that this

that that watched the team coming from the back. We talked about the Saints, and the Saints a player fell right to where they wanted him to be and they Dave gave up a fifth round pick in this draft and next year's one, and like you guys said, they're planning on being a playoff team, they should be. Yeah. Yeah, So let's see what we have here. The commissioner is making his way to the podium. He's in the crowd, hanging out with it. Like they they're drawing me off

sides here. Yeah. Like I keep thinking Goodell's gonna come out of its seat. A Florida Lee tattoos. He has a Florida Lee tattooed on. So yeah, let's see the I mean, we're kind of waiting to get for the commissioner. They say the picks in. I thought they had that angle of the camera. They're drawing us. They all they cut like, what what are they doing? They're they're pointing to their section. You're right, you're right, they're pointing to

the Saints sex. And so they're having a mini a mini Monti grow going on in the Saints section right now because they're about to select their quarterbacks. Everybody's very excited about that. We're still again waiting for the commissioner unless he got to detained. I got I got drawn off sides. Guys. I had that angle. They had that angle where I was kind of like, okay, well here comes to the commissioner. But JC get lost. It's a beautiful setup. They've got on the right, absolutely doing it.

I bet you that Saint sections a lot of fun. Then there are a lot a lot of folks. So the transplants from my people, your people. David here he goes, all right, can't let's talk to the commissioner. Who are you? Wow, you didn't like what I was talking about Marcus Davenport, did you I said, we sounded smart five minutes ago. Now I feel stupid. How much say does Sean Payton have in that room? Did he just say, I love your may I may go somewhere else after this year,

trading my net my pick next year on Earth. I think every block now everything reaction in the Cowboy War room is is nobody Flint. Stephen Jones has got a smile on his face. Chris Hall on the right, he's looking at Todd Williams like, what just happened? I bet you hey, we heard you know we I had a conversation with with somebody on the football side of the building. He was basically like, you know, you get you get one wow per first round. You know one thing that

you really didn't see coming. Based on some of those reactions, I wonder if that was it right. I would count three of them so far into Night's draft. At least Denzel Ward you on where he did what durn Payne and then Marcus Davenport that just okay, if you think you're one piece away from a championship, maybe you do that well they do right, maybe, But Marcus Davenport. They would have been in the championship game if Marcus Williams didn't fold down. You're you're right. I mean so I

think they see themselves as that. I don't know if Marcus Davenport could be the end up being the best pass rusher in this draft, this was Bradley Chubb, I would get it. But man, this is projectability right here exactly. Hey, maybe he's a freak, maybe he's freaking von Miller, but man's I was when you do that? I like, I mean, we were we all thought it was Lamar Jackson. You're over here smiling at me. I brought up Davidport. You guys kind of looked at me like I was weird.

When was the last time somebody who made a jump like this for not a quarterback? But you saw him bringing show Davenport on the screen. No, no, no, I saw it was. To me, there was talk it was. It was kind of this discussion that was going on, and I'm thinking, well, that's why I brought up Davenport because project it was like projected players. Yeah, and it was Davidport and Jackson with the two guys, and that's why I brought it up. And then everybody kind of

got on me about a little bit. So you're over here, like I knew it wasn't gonna be Lamar Jackson. I knew, Hey, I'll tell you what. I had him marked on my shell, on my sheet, Dave. I had him. I had to erase him on my board. I thought it was gonna be Lamar Jackson. I really did five picks away, and we have Edmonds on the board and we have Derwin James on that. Let's reset for you, Yeah, a little bit exactly. I mean, just do the last I'll do the last five picks. They just to just to reset

here a little bit. Arizona took Josh Rosen at ten, the Miami Dolphins at eleven, took Mika Fitzpatrick. Vidavea goes to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at twelve, the Ron Payne to the Washington Redskins at thirteen, and then the Saints charge up the board. They come marching in and they trade with the Green Bay Packers. Grew up next year's one to take Marcus Davenport, the defensive end from the University of Texas at San Antonio. That leaves the Oakland

Raiders on the clock. Then the Baltimore Ravens, Los Angeles Chargers, Seattle Seahawks, and your Dallas Cowboys. What's Gruden want he because it's I don't know if he wants to take ice cold Corona and a plate of Hooters wings because he got he got beat. He got beat on the trade going back, Yeah, he got beat. I mean he should have taken a two and a five, but he took a three to five. So obviously in the Raider tradition, he did not want to make a pick, and so

we were see cornerback, yeah, and linebacker. They've talked about needing a playmaking linebacker. Obviously they picked up Novarro Bowman late in the year last year out of desperation, almost like this team here did um so you know that would have Tremaine Edmund written all over it. You know they took Obie last year, and that's that's a really

I mean to Kean O'Neil. And again, I'm just I'm just trying to go on pre draft logic, which is obviously absurd because we just saw the Saints take Marcus Davenport. But Roquan Smith and Tremaine Edmonds are guys that have been to talk about a lot for the Raiders, So I mean that's certainly something I would keep an eye on. Yeah, well, how about this. Landry makes a lot of sense here. Landry does because again you put him on the other

side with Khalil Mack mac rushes from that left side. Yeah. So, I mean the Raiders ranked twenty third in the league in sacks last year. Now, Derek Carter did get beat up a little bit last year as well, So you know, maybe all the other mcglinchey's already gone. To me, there's not really another offensive tackle that's close. I mean, Connor Williams would be next. Here's a pretty big fall off and offensive tackle. Yeah. I know, a lot of teams

like Colton Miller doesn't seem brought him in somebody. Um so maybe that, but I think Edmonds makes the most sense. Yeah, well, we'll see. They say the pick is in and the Raiders are have This is a pick that they acquired they traded back with the Arizona Cardinals. Katie's mentioned of the guys that are potentially on the board, Landry from

Boston College, Tremaine Edmonds from Virginia Tech. We have Evans from Alabama, on my board and in Hughes of the cornerback from Central Florida and James the safety from Florida State. The uh they they're trying to trick me with that shot again, showing like the commissioner he's gonna come out this time. I think the commission had to take a little break, and so now he's at the podium. Let's go, oh, okay, dude, they don't they don't have they don't have two functional tackles.

This should surprise you in the sense that you don't like him as a player, right, But it shouldn't surprise you in the sense that, I mean the signs were there. Teams liked him. He's mocked in the first round often he's at the draft. I mean that tells you all you need to know. He's also the cause of Josh Rosen's concussions last year. I mean, Colton Millers, We've talked about him a bunch. The Cowboys brought him in on a thirty visit, and they also brought in Mike McGlinchey.

And this is a it's a very athletic guy, but he's not very strong. Briggs written all over him. Funny funny in the way that works. You want to talk about that, No, I just I think the athletic offensive tackle that teams get enamored with. You just need to see more power. Yeah, I have to see more power in my offensive linemen. It's just funny to me. I mean, hey, we know, we know, we know a lot about this stuff. We spend a lot of time on it. I think

we do a really good job. But you know, I can think back a month and be like, oh whoa hey, okay action. Another trade is Buffalo Buffalo. We talked about Buffalo coming back up to finish that thought. I just I think it's funny that we were talking about maybe the Cowboys control the top tackle in the draft at nineteen. Yeah, you had one go nine and one go fifteen. Not so much. Yeah, And that that goes back to my

point from a million years ago. Need is such a big part of this thing, and teams don't like to admit that. But you're not going to sit around and wait to address tackle if you don't have two functioning tackles. To quote Kat Okay, the Buffalo Bills they made a trade to with Tampa and they picked up two Uh, they picked up two second round picks. They picked up pick fifty three. No, excuse me, this is this is

the Bills game. Bills gave up those pick. Excuse me. Yeah, so this is the this is the Bills trying to come back up into the into the draft. So they gave up, they gave me two. But what else did they give up? Well, they let's see, let's Buffalo picked back up a seventh round pick. I saw that. So let's say I didn't see the full details on the trade, but let's see what in fact this will let will turn into. But Buffalo is now on the clock with the play a crazy game. What do you got? What

if you took two quarterbacks? You took Josh Allen, what if you took Lamar Jackson two? We talked about Cleveland maybe doing this at one and four. There's no way they do. And that nuts, there's no way they two nuts. There's not enough practice time, there's not I mean that is that they're obviously Oh here's the trade. They get a fifth overall in this and they give up sixty five. So that's the Tyrod Taylor pick. That's the Tyrod Taylor pick.

So that that pick now goes to that pick goes to Buffalo, So they pick back up one fifty four, right, So one fifty four it now belongs to Buffalo, and then the sixty five now belongs to Baltimore. So they flopped. They flopped it right there, and so we will see the picks in for the Bills. I like this. If you're gonna do it, you're not gonna waste any time, right. Who do you think though? I mean, I know Kat's trying to go. He's doing some now unders doing bits.

I think Tremaine Edmonds makes sense. Would they go receiver there to help, you know, Josh Allen. I don't think he's gonna step in and play immediately. It could be wrong. Yeah, maybe wide receiver Calvin Ridley. Maybe too early. They're trying to get their ahead of their right, ahead of Dallas.

I mean, people think this is this the best player available type, Like maybe Tremaine Edmonds just fell far enough that they're like, screw this, this might be the linebacker, this this, this might be right Edmunds, I'm sorry, Dave, You're absolutely right. This is They lost Brown in free agency. They didn't sign another starter or two of the two of the three part time starts from OH seven or

aging players on expiring contracts. This could be, this could be this iss to this, let's go get this absolutely Okay, commissioners at the podium, there you go. That's a great pick right there. They saw. Yeah, he is a really good football player. It does look like there's any reaction in the Cowboys war room right now. That one was just a pretty a pretty steady pick right there. Everybody doing their jobs. Nobody got to fluster as all but Tremaine Edmonds is the is the pick? Dave? Talk about

him a little bit? No, Well, I'm it's funny because we have not talked a ton about him because we wrote this off. Obviously not so much because he only went three spots ahead of the Cowboys. But I mean, this dude is a gigantic athletic freak. Like you said, I mean, he just looks like a prototypical, like old school middle linebacker. I think he's got the athleticism to

do both. Though I always said, you know, I think Roquan Smith is more of your speed, undersized four three guy, Like, yeah, I imagine this guy playing inside in a three four Yeah, But I mean that said, I think he can do anything. I think that's why that's why you see Buffalo trade up as far as they did, the fact that a

guy this talented is still available at sixteen. Yeah. The thing for me is, I again, it always goes back to the cowboys for me, and I'm I'm looking at this war room and for the million time in my life, I wonder what they're thinking because obviously all the guys we've targeted are there. From the all the guys, with the exception of Vita Vea, everybody we've talked about is there. Yeah, but throw Derwin jameson in the mix, Irwin James and

now we're about we're about to get to the minefield. Well, we're about we've been. We've been in the minefield. The thing is is we're we're surviving the minefield and all honesty. I mean, if you wanted to trade up for this guy, not that I think they do based on the fact that nobody's on the phone, but if you wanted to, you could do it. You could do it right now. Yeah, they're the phones are not they're not ringing, which and nobody is picked up the phone. Stephen Jones would pick

up that phone. You see a bank of the phones and from he would pick up that phone, and he's got all the teams on speed dial in front of him, so all he would have to do is match one of those buttons, and he's got a team. But they might sit here and just let this thing ride. But man, it's the minefield, Dane, welcome back. Kind of some crazy stuff going on. How about that Sage trade? Did you think Lamar Jackson were already talking about how the Saints abody?

But I just bring up though, I brought up the our ut San Antonio guy. Yeah, Brian made sure to be He's like, well maybe, and then he moved on and act like he called it like he hats to be wrong. I'm just shocked, as you guys. Um, we know that the Saints wanted Pat Mahomes last year and they missed him by one pick. You gave up a future one to go up that high. It must be a quarterback marked him. Yeah, I'll marked him. I don't

blame you. Uh that Okay, we're on Derwin watching out right. Yeah? Absolutely, okay. But well, and that goes back to my point, which is, at this point, maybe I mean a guy that well, oh oh, things are happening we got okay, Rod, Yeah, Rod Mirnoli is now in the war is Chris Christian Shard? Okay here we're talking. Well, I mean what else could that be? Okay, well, let's yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah, Christi Shard has made an appearance. He's gonna be the

far left the camera. Rod MIRINOI of course everybody knows him and they're there, and uh, we're gonna get some I think Chris Rashard is probably gonna describe the player a little bit, talk about what he needs. Will McClay. Everybody's kind of locked in. They're they're getting some conversation going on here. We'll problem how much How confident are you that? I mean, that's two picks. That's two picks. Well if they know if they're again, Derwin James could

be a guy and then Vanderish. I mean those are the two. I mean that to me is who they're. It's true. And Chris, to be fair, Chris Rochard is also he is the passing game. So the linebacker title right from Mattieberflus, So it makes sense that he would be there for a linebacker as well. Okay, with all the excitement we've got the Chargers or on the clock. Although I will throw this in there. If it was a linebacker, don't you think Ben Bloom would be somewhere

in the room. Yeah, but yeah, but you're right, you're right. I don't I don't, Hey, I mean, I don't know. They pay the guy to coach the linebackers. Well, those those in the two those are the two highest ranking defensive coaches. Yeah. Yeah, So so here's a mars Shawn Lattimore's house, Derwin James still on the board. Well, I think the Cowboys are hopeful that that things just get real quiet with what's going on there. This is a minefield here because we could Yeah, this is Chargers need

safety help. We talked about this a bunch. We know the Seahawk want to move back. Someone want to go up and get the get the safety. Yeah, well I think I think the fallback guy right now would beyond later Vanderesh, But later Vanderesh like if they don't get hit, sooner they get lat and later exactly exactly myself. Yeah,

so we'll see the Chargers have maybe twenty left. Uh, and we've talked about them defensive line, linebacker, quarterback, and you know this is what's we talked about the quarterback here? Do they go? I mean, do they go? And you know this kN wizzen Hunt, who's the O C there, Anthony Lynn, the head coach, this kN wizzen Hunt find creative ways to to use a guy like Lamar Jackson. This is it just makes too much sense for them, doesn't that quarterback? Like I said, it makes sense because

I think Lamar Jackson's a damn good quarterback. But it's so weird for me to think of Lamar Jackson playing there because I'm so used to Philip Rivers. Yeah, once again looking in the war room inside the Ford Center at the Star here in Frisco conversation going back and forth, Will McClay explaining something, Stephen Jones locked in, Jerry Jones listening. There's Jason Garrett as well. They got two defensive the highest ranking defensive coaches in the room right now to

kind of discuss what is going on. Picks in for the Chargers. We should get that momentarily, Dane, who do you think do you have anybody in mind? I mean, you're they need safety help. I mean, Derwin James makes play of sense right here. Going to be a quarterback. Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying. The wild card to me right now is the quarterback. If he doesn't go here, where's he gonna go? Cincinnati? Maybe New eng Engle? Sir, how about the about there the patch Just sit there and

take that guy? Yeah, my god, wouldn't that just piss you off? Oh? Sure? But it's like the stuff that happens, you know, it's those are the types of things that happened, you know, if you're from from what I mean, And and it's not okay, this pick is already in so really you're talking about Seattle. Yeah, and you're hopeful that Seattle doesn't back out of there. But like, yeah, it looks like the cowboys are content to sit and just

make their pick at nineteen. They are. And here's the commissioner. Let's go there, we are crush the dreams. Yeah, there we go. Let's see no rule reaction in the war room. Yet they were that's a handing adam pacifica handing out new trade charts right there, so kind of to reflect some of the things that were going on. Uh, we'll see the end. The defensive coaches still hanging in there

right now. In the war room. Uh in, But that that leads me to believe that, you know that Layton vander Esh could be the guy that could be the pick here. I've been We've been saying it for how long. Layton Vandress is the favorite to go ands. I mean, and who who's who's there that I mean, Okay, DJ Moore and Calvin Ridley, but it's Rod Marinelli and Chris Rochard and the room right now. So well, and you know, and let's let's be honest here, they did not they

were they gambled here. They didn't try and pick up the phone. We didn't see them make any type of effort to go up if they thought that that that they were gonna lose Derwin James. They you know, I didn't see Stephen Jones or Will McClay on the phone at the time. Uh to uh to um. Maybe facilitate some type of trade, but Derwin James, a very talented

safety from Florida State. Better better to have Los Angeles chargers, Better to have Derwin drafted out from in front of you than to have him be there and not take him, which is something that could happen to I mean, like I said, and I know drafts are unpredictable, but this team has followed a pretty strict blueprint over the last five or so years that they really like to be hands on with their first round picks. So I'd rather

Oh that's an okay, an interesting point from Logan. Green Bay's going back up, and that that means the Okay, get will McClay on the phone. Here, Uh the packers are now they Seattle. Okay, here's green Bay. I bet this is Harold Landry. It probably is. This is I was about to say, week that makes sense. We forgot about Harold Landry and that I keep forgetting about them, which Chris Richard and Rod Marinelli are in the room, so like that that makes sense too. But I don't know.

I just I have a feeling that it's our boy Lve and I have a feeling that this trade is for Harold Landry. Could this trade be for Vanderish If you look at I mean again, then playing a three four outside, you know need pass rushers. I need only not a pass rusher. But uh, I don't know. I mean it's got to be it. They got to feel like that Landry could play. Let me see Landry put his hand on the ground though. That's kind of his

that's kind of thing. Did they you think they project him to play as a an outside linebacker and he's got the bend to do whatever the hell he wants. He's a pass rusher. I mean, yeah, put him in space, he'll be just fine. He's a good athlete. That makes a lot of sense. And what do we say, Seahawks, they're going to move back? Um, Yeah, and that's exactly what they did. Let's see what they gave it with the Let's see they got a third and a sixth from the game Bay. It looks like, yeah, so right

now Seattle's still not picking on the second round. Yeah, so they got a third and a sixth on that trade, according to Dane Burglar, So this again, this puts the Packers are on the clock. We're kind of looking at some names. I'm thinking about team needs here, cornerback, inside linebacker, wide receiver. I mean, could this be it to jump up ahead of Dallas, thinking that Dallas is going to take a wide receiver? Maybe could they could this be

obviously they're not watching the war room cam. Yeah that's what they think. Yeah, could this be for? Could this be for? You know, or Ridley or for more something like that, trying to get ahead of Dallas, knowing that Dallas needs a wide receiver. Packers at five minutes left on the clock. That's got defensive coaches still in handshakes

all around. Let's see which I mean? You know, I maybe, but again using the same logic that we use for why the Cowboys weren't going to pick a receiver at nineteen, and I think with all these handshakes, I think it's fair to say that it's not going to be a receiver at nineteen. Yeah. Um, I don't know why the Packers would make this trade. Again, like you talk about how deep this receiver classes, you talk about the fact that both of the top two are still on the

board right now. Um yeah. Like I said, hey, I've already been really wrong once already because because I thought Lamar Jackson was going to New Orleans. But I bet this as a defender the Packers are about to draft. Yeah, and again Landry makes sense. He might have won fourteen yeah when the Packers are there, Yeah, yeah, they might have. They might have lost out. We kind of had to think about with Davenport, you know, as being there, so uh uh you know, we'll see if maybe maybe the

packers were looking at a corner here. Well, we'll see if h we'll see if if in fact that that is the case, maybe this is where Alexander Jr. Alexander Mike Hughes. Maybe. Yeah, so we'll we'll see, uh if in fact that we talk about Landry, but it might be Now okay, we'll talk about the size for for Alexander Dane. I mean that's kind of always been the packer you know, is a guy as he is. He you know, it's shorter corners right to tend to not go that direction. They have a premium on length um

for the corner position. They want size uh to match up, and so Alexander's not a big guy. That's really the one knock against him durability uh and just his size. So it might be a little surprised. But again we have a new general manager, a new guy in Green Bay making the decisions. So I think there's were a little bit of uncharted arders here in terms of maybe what they're targeting at the cornerback position. Okay, the packers, they they pick up the they pick up the eighteenth

overall pick from the Seahawks. They send Seattle a seventh round pick and uh so uh, I didn't kick up the rest of the trade there went pretty quick while I was looking out. So we'll get that one for you though. But the Packers pick is in this again is a pick that they got from from Seattle. The Cowboy war room looks very excited like they got their guy. Rod Marinelli, Chris Rochard in the room. We'll see if we think the Packers are probably going to take a

corner here. But we've talked about Landry. They could use some rush help on the outside as an outside linebacker, but cornerback also makes a lot of sense. They want more, that they want more. They have bodies, but they you know, they still need to get more guys. Uh you know, Rollins, Goodson Randall had been disappointing. And they will they will draft a corner high and this is where in fact that they can can get that guy. So we will.

We'll see when the commissioner walks to the podium, if you again look at the Cowboys or just reading the high fives all around, high fives all around. Interesting thought to me that Chris Roshard is the newest member of the coaching staff and he's the guy that they have in here with Rod Marinelli. Yeah, obviously they think the world of him. Former defensive coordinator. Just I don't know, an interesting thought. Well, here's the pick. The commissioner is

walking to the podium. Well, there it is JayR. Alexander, Jr. Alexander. He is from Louisville. He's a corner. We talked about the length is something that might be a little bit of a question for the Packers, but uh not or for the draft, but not the case of the Packers. That's a team that used to have some size, speed length problems with the corners, right, and I always wanted the bigger corners and stuff like that. So he reminds me a lot of Joe Hayden. A little undersize, but

he's a good athlete, plays the ball well. He's scrappy, which I feel like we use every time for under size corners, but he is. That's just that, that's who he is, that type of corner I like to fit. Again. A new a new general manager in Green Bay, So maybe a little bit of changing the way we think of how they think at the cornerback position. Yeah, and the Cowboys all right, are now on the clock, and that's presented by ublow Yow blow on the clock on

the clock. There you go, good memory, Thank you. You got your Harold Landry's on the board. There's two. You got your picks and Harold Landry and Layton vander esh And honestly, if you told me at the start of night that Harold Landry would be there, I would be beside myself. But I can't shake this feeling like that's not going to be the pick. Yeah, based on what you told me earlier today, which is that he's kind of a fallback, I think I think he's I think

there's two fallback guys or fallback position. I think Lander was in a fallback position. I think an offensive lineman was in a fallback position. Doesn't look like they're going to go in this direction. But there's no receiver off the board at this point. It's true. Yeah, Well, and I mean you're absolutely right, which I think is it's not super surprising, but it is interesting given how much we talked about receiver that neither one of them went.

But I mean it's clearly a defender. Yeah, thank you Dez Bryant for that, for that thought, but I don't think that's going to be the case. No, not not with not with two defensive coaches in the room. Okay, the Cowboys, well they're all they're talking to their player right now, but there's uh, there's still six minutes on the clock. The camera now is flashed to the war room. Guys are all and ladies as well, very happy with the situation. We'll see. We think it's Leyden Vandersh, the

linebacker from Boise States. David mentioned that though Harold Landry still is on the board, but we think it's going to be vander Ish, so we'll get ready for that. We've kind of talked all along Dane again, the strengths of Leyden Vanderish if in fact that he has the pick. You want players that match up in three areas, the tape, the traits, the production, and I think Layton Vandersch has those three. He doesn't have that extensive resume. He's not a four year starter. He's a one year guy. But

he's an ascending player. I've said that a lot and I'm sticking with it. He is an ascending player who is getting better and better with the more reps. We've talked about a guy who has been deemed with the injury stuff. We don't believe that's an issue for this team. But he's a big, good sized athlete who can run and he's getting better with take on skills. He can cover. He's an every down player, and I think why the Cowboys value him so highly is because he can play

the MIC. He can play the will, can play the sam, can be interchangeable. You don't need to take him off the field in any situation. So I think it's pretty pretty quickly he's going to see the field and again he's staying on the field, not a guy you need to take off in certain situations. Well, it looks like that on the stage at the AT and T Stadium that Drew Pearson and Michael Irvin are whooping up the crowd here, getting everybody really fired up for the pick.

As again they got two of the three eighty eight Yeah exactly they got and the third one's tweeting right now, well he's not doing anything, Yeah, bring him in absolutely So Yeah, the Cowboys there there, Rod Mirnoi is on the phone with their selection. Again, we feel like that it's gonna be latent. Vanderesh U the linebacker from Boise State. They're passing the phone around to make sure that everybody gets a chance to say, hello, Uh, does this if it is? If it is Vanderesh, do we feel like

up possibilities tomorrow wide receiver? I mean, and I mean, okay, we don't officially know. I'm I think it's a good educated guest that it's Layton vander esch Um. So it doesn't. Okay, we didn't think Harold Landry would be there. We didn't think Derwin James would fall that far. Right, Well, we had an idea we talked about. You're right, James, you said that, Yeah, correct, Yeah, I did not think Derwin James would fall that far. Yeah. Um, But it's the

same result. It's I mean, it was a different it's always a different way of getting there than you think, but it's at the end of the day, it's the same result we expected, which is that linebacker is the most pressing need on this team. Yeah, they had a guy that they liked in this range, and you know, maybe they want to trade up for a receiver tomorrow. But either way, they felt better about addressing those other spots with their other picks than uh not dealing with linebacker.

And like I said, I mean I would pick Harold Landry in this spot. But I understand the logic of getting this linebacker and just solving that problem. Again, this is a guy whose arrow is pointing upward in terms of his development, right, Um, so I get the logic. Yeah, his I think I think his best trade trade is

his ability to play with range. I really do. Yeah, I think you know, there's no question this guy can get sideline to sideline, you know, and they and they have got to figure out some things that at the linebacker spot. And now will this allow him they play him at Mike linebacker? Will this allow them to move uh, you know, Jalen Smith to Sam linebacker? It could allow you to have a little bit of fun. Yeah, like Jaylen at Sam, you can play him as a situational

pass rushing uh. And that's the big thing here is it's not that you don't have confidence that Jalen Smith can become a good player, but this allows you to help him. The old cliche Garrett loves to use is put your players in the best position to be successful. Well, it puts Jalen Smith in a great position. If you're not counting on him to play a one hundred percent of the snaps. Yeah, well we're still waiting for him.

They're still on the clock by anybody, Hublow. That's the fun yeah, which shouts out you blow blow, Absolutely, they're getting their money sort of. Well, yeah, it's a fun thing about the draft. Like they made their they made their pick fifty what feels like fifteen minutes ago. Yeah, but they're still officially on the clock. So just the fun discrepancies. Yeah, well, we're just a good little way. Can we just Layton Vandersch is not Bobby Carpenter. No, okay,

can we stop with this. It's just it's a terrible lazy comparison that we need to stop right now. Yeah. Um, whether he that's the pick here at nineteen or if he goes in three picks, uh, he is not Bobby Carpenter, So we can stop with that. Yeah, well that's uh yeah, I totally agree with you on that one, Dane. I mean I think that's a that's a really an unfortunate

this This guy's is really a better player. I mean again, I you know, Bobby Carpenter had his problems with take on and stuff like that, but he didn't move and run and react like this guy. You know, if it's vander Esh, who's your starting Mike on September ninth at Carolina. I think it's I think it's gonna be Vandersch. I'm interested to see what they're doing. Okay, the picks in. Let's see if the commissioner nobody's using more of their clients.

I'll tell you what, You'll make everybody wait. If they're gonna make you wait, you figure out times to you know, you make everybody else wait. But here it goes. We're getting that angle again. The commissioner will be heading to the podium. We think the pick is going to be Layton Vandersh. No, now we're talking more with some more commentary here about the about the potential pick um. We don't think it is any other. But I tweeted two days ago if the Cowboys had a chance of Laton Vandersh,

they weren't gonna pass. Yeah. I don't think that, and I still feel that way. Here we are waiting the final seconds until the pick is announced Layton Vandrush is on the board. I get it, I understand it. I do. Yeah, see this was one. I mean, it just seemed like everything was lining up for this pick. Yeah, it just seemed like that. You know, you talk about the workout, the thirty visit the scouts like this one. This one

was the one where the coaches and scouts all work together. Okay, we're going to the podium now, I think Commissioner is on his way, so let's fakecounts. I'm over him joining remember bingo, there he is, Layton vandersh He heads to the h he heads to the podium to kind of kind of ironic that um, you know, and it doesn't mean it wasn't true, but we I mean so wide open. We had no idea what was going to happen. But the Cowboys wind up with a guy that they targeted.

God when when was the first time we said this dude's name Valentine's Day? Yeah, I mean it was a while ago. Yeah, we we've we've talked about him quite a bit. There's been a lot of back and forth. There was some I think that Dane myself, you know,

watching the tape on him. Initially, Dane, I don't want to speak for you, but initially there was some questions about him, and you know, you really had to dig in dive in trying for aground a little bit more about him, you know, and it's later on played very well. There's some questions about this medical we we talked about that earlier. The Cowboys were not worried about that, Dane. You brought it up with its twenty five teams that had passed him, five that said he was off their board.

So uh, you know that's ah, they made the pick, and uh, it looks like a lot of folks in Boise, Idaho are very happy about the Layton Vanderation. This is a team that drafted kids from boy Boyse, South, Layton, Orlando, Scandrid's gone, but Leyton vander esh now joins Tyrone Crawford and DeMarcus Lawrence and Boyse. How about a coach, a quarterbacks coach. Yeah, don't frek. Well, he didn't go to Boise, he went to Idaho. But yeah, oh oh oh, I'm

so sorry. I'm thinking Scott Nahan. No, you're absolutely right, Kellen Moore one percent. Uh yeah, no, it's Boise, Boise South here in Texas. But like I said, like, hey, being one hundred percent honest, I liked Harold Landry a lot. I thought he'd fit a need. You can make an argument he's the best player on the board. But this pick makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons. Uh, it's it's a lend of quality. I mean, the dudes an athletic freak. Honestly, I mean him and Tremaine Edmonds

might as well be interchangeable. I don't think I'm not supposing too much to say this guy doesn't get as much hype as Edmonds because he's white. I mean, he's got some freaky measurables. You could look at playing being a one year starter as a downside. You could look at as an upside that he's just scratching the surface of what he can be. You put that athleticism with more experience working with a guy like Sean Lee all

the time. Yea. So on top of the fact that he's a fantastic athlete, he fills what I think we would all agree is the biggest need on this roster. So, like I said, I might I probably would have taken Harold Landry. But I don't have a single problem with this pick, and I don't think anybody should be surprised by it. And what has been the name that has been floating around as a comparison with this guy, Brian Urlacker,

and when those two names are connected. First of all, a little unfair to Vanreesh to be paired with a Hall of famer. But if I thought he was Chad Greenway, my set not bad. Yeah. Yeah, and Chad Greenway had her first round pick, a great career, yeah in Minnesota. But again, you liked this player because he could play all three positions. He can stay on the field and coverage. He needs to get better with the take on skills, but with his length, with his power, you think he

can do it. It's just it's more know how than ability. And so I'm okay with this pick. I think I would have went probably with a receiver. But I understand the thinking we've said all along, linebacker, wide receiver. They that's for the direction they probably want to go. They get their linebacker here, They're gonna most likely draft from wide receiver tomorrow. Yeah, I think so. In my mock draft, actually thought, you know, because Stephen Jones was talking about

they were like two safeties. So we'll see if in facted and h tomorrow at pick fifty. Now the draft continues, I mean, we're not We're not done by any means here and no, not at all. And they and the Detroit Lions with the twentieth pick are on the clock right now. We kind of feel like though that the Lions, this could very well be uh, one of the offensive linemans. This is where Daniels We've talked about him, right, Dane

as being a you know, yeah, offensive or defensive. Yeah, you know, could go Tavin Bryant here, they need that three technique upfield. Pennant there you go, could go with you on the other side of the ball on offense, could go with you know, the interior offensive line. Daniels. Uh, this is where you start talking about Hernandez win. Uh. A lot of teams like rag now he could be in that mix. So Detroit, Uh certainly, Uh, look a

good chance they go into trenches. Yeah. Well, and then you look at their needs they've always so they've talked about. You're you're absolutely right, Dane with you know, a lot of the offensive line have been projected here, but defensive end, defensive tackle. Uh. You know, they lost a Helodi Nada in free agency and he was not idea. They didn't sign the steven Or Ricky Jane or Dial after visits. So you know, here's the team. They might need one maybe two big guys in the middle. But I I

kind of feel like though that You're absolutely right. There's just too many quality offensive lineman, you know, with the guards, the three guards, and in the center with with Daniels and the potential of him playing center or playing guard as well. So I'll be a really interest. I know he's he's high on my on my board for a guy. So we'll see that they say the pick is in for the Detroit Lions, we will in fact see who it is. As you can see the Cowboy war room,

guys have kind of dispersed. They're gonna figure some things out, and do you come back your board in front of you. I do, Who's who's the highest rated player available at this point, the highest rated player injury on my board would be if I did my top if I think it would be Daniels. If I looked at my over Landry, Yeah, over Landry, Okay, I mean I'm to get my if I got too many pieces of paper in front of me, Dane, that's my problem right now is what we got here.

So yeah, I think if I looked at my top fifty that that he would be that land that Uh, let me see here real quick. Gosh, dang terrible radio I'm doing right now, dan No, I look, Landry, Ridley Daniels. Those are kind of my top three at this point. Yeah, I've got I've actually got I do well. I've got to be honest with I've got DJ Moore still available, I've got I do have Landry above Daniels. So I've got more Landry and Lamar Jackson, Ridley and Jackson. I

have them all kind of in a little group there. Okay, so we'll see you mentioned Lamar Jackson. Where's he gonna fall? Yeah? I mean the next two picks that Detroit, we have Cincinnati and Baltimore. One of those two. How can New England not take him? You know what I'm saying? What about the next two picks though? I Could he get past Cincinnati and Baltimore? Though? Is that in Baltimore? I

mean Baltimore? Might I think? I mean could Baltimore will take to the selections in right now, Commissioners at the podium, Let's go to him there. Yeah, whoa wow. With Daniels on the board, they took Frank Ragnew. That's that's a New England. That's that's a former GM that doesn't care. I mean he doesn't care what I think. No, of course,

he does not care what I think at all. What's funny is I ran that name by someone on the football side of this building, and I was using it as like an example of what would be a surprising pick and he was like, oh no, that's that's not surprising. That's definitely gonna happen. And I was like, really, okay, So it just you know, the the the media and

the league does not always line up, that's for sure. No. I I was not a big fan of Ragnew I game, but I think a third run grade I wasn't either myself. A matter of fact, I had him with the fourth Yeah, you know, so I get why teams like him with the versatility guard center. Sure, he's a tough guy, we know that. You almost like him more for his makeup, his leadership more than anything else. That the natural and tangibles that he brings. So those are off the charts.

But just talking about the film, film was I didn't think the film was any good. I mean not for the twentieth overall pick, and you had a chance, you know, and you're you're telling me you had a chance to draft Daniels, who absolutely is one of the best center prospects I've seen Frank rag Now he's playing against Alabama playing guard. He's not playing very well. You know, he's playing center. He's a belly to belly blocker. He absorbs the defender. He kind of walls off in the play.

He doesn't get any movement one on one. I didn't see the lack of strength really hurts him, gets thrown off blocks. He works hard to get a stalemate, he stays after his blocks, but he's just not successful all the time. And I thought he struggled to move his feet when he hooked up on blocks, jump on inside. Majority of his snaps for there's balance, but there's those times where he ends up on the ground. Right. I

just didn't I push shove guy. I was not. Again, I'm watching games South Carolina, Auburn, Texas A and m Alabama. I just didn't see it with this guy. So this was this would be one of those picks where I went, WHOA, you know, what's up with that? Am I wrong about him? Dane? No? I agree with you, Okay. I think the way you summed him up is and you watch him and it's Yes, I think he did get the job done a lot

of the times. But it wasn't pretty, you know. I mean he sloppy, technique was off, the balance was off. So again, the versatility, guard center, versatilities. Why you like him. The intangibles are off the charts, toughness, leadership, you love that about him. But again, the tape did not show a top twenty player and that's where he went here and the Lions took him right under the nose of the Bengals. Yeah, I mocked him to the Bengals of twenty one that wanted so at twenty one though, I

mean Daniels was sitting there in the laugh. Is that the direction they go? Do they want to go? And Will Hernandez? I think they liked Will Laton Vandrush quite a bit. Sure, but he's gone obviously, Um so what did Bengals do? Now? Again? I come back to Lamar Jackson, Uh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, New England. The next three picks are all possibilities for Lamar Jackson. I think this. I think the Patriots, it's amazing they're sitting there and they and they love Lamar Jackson.

They love I mean, I know for a fact that they love Lamar Jackson. And there and they and there was talk about them, oh maybe having to come up and get a guy. They're just sitting there buying their time right now, and he very well could fall right in their lap. So but David, he thought about rag now while we like I said, I mean, I think that's that's one that would throw you as throw me as a surprise. But I don't think it surprises people

in the NFL community. And when you talk about him, it was going right in this range of either Detroit or Cincinnati. I heard him linked to both. Minnesota thirty was a team I think, Dane we talked about maybe a little bit, what about the fact that the war rooms once again gone dark. Yeah, the war room in Ford Center here at the start. Yeah, I don't know. Take me through that, Brian, How does that h What happens in the war room after you make your pick?

I mean, guys will I mean guys will bathroom breaks and kind of like, you know, take a breath, and guys will keep working the phones and stuff like that. But they might be talking about who's left on the board, and they might and they might be looking at a situation maybe to get ready for tomorrow, and you throw some chum in the water to see if if in fact, you can get somebody to buy it on this. But

it looks like that Cincinnati's pick is in again. I've always get you that the commissioners at the podium, let's go and get the Bengals pick at one twenty one Ohio State. So the big ten center comes off the board, maybe not the one we thought would go first. Wow, this this to me and I man and shouts out, shouts out my homie Catherine Terrell, who nailed that pick? Did she have that one? Yeah? I believe unless she changed her last minute? Did she change? Well? Back to

back centers are off the board now. And you guys always laugh at me when I said Paul Brown, who the founder of the Bengals, was an Ohio State guy, you know, coached Ohio State. And then I say, oh, they're gonna take an Ohio State player, And you guys kind of laugh at me at that. But anyway, uh, Ohio teams love drafting. Cleveland doesn't until today. So yeah, really, I feel like I could have sworn they'd done it

before fans get all over. The Browns were not drafting Ohio state players, but they did today obviously at number four with Denzel Awards. So I know if some fans were upset, it wasn't Bradley Chubb in Cleveland. But anymore, we're very happy that they're guy well Billy. Billy Price is coming off a peck injury, right, Dane, Yeah, slight Tarati is peck from the combine. I'm sitting there waiting for him to put up forty reps on the bench and he got three because he had a slight tear.

But he sent out a letter to all every team saying, hey, I'm gonna be ready for training camp. It's not a huge deal. And so Bengals are buying what they're selling. I think they're gonna be ready. He's gonna be ready for training camp. Yeah. And so Billy Price is the is the and here's the Titans. The Titans now are on the clock. There was a trade. I'm just gonna get Harold Landry. I'm might keep saying Harold Landry. Yeah, getting up makes sense to get in front of New England,

to get the pass rusher. I think that. And who's the gem of New England? John Robins, John Robinson, former New England staffer, who Baltimore went back twice? Yeah, so Baltimore. Baltimore is acting like very much Bill Walsh back in the nineteen eighties, kept moving back, moving back, moving back. But yeah, here's Titans and Dane. You feel like that this pick will be Harold Landry or I think it's

Harold Landry here. Um, you know they the Titans need pass rush help, Derek Morgan getting up there in age, Brian Rackpost, same thing. They need a young guy to come in and groom, and that three four hybrid scheme they run in Tennessee. Harold Landry think could be a perfect fit. I'm not sure they expected him to be available at this point, but to move up two spots or three spots, it probably only took you know, maybe a third or a fourth to make that move, right.

I like this. If that's who the pick is, I'm a big fan of the pick. I mean, if it's not Harold Landry, James Daniels as a possibility, they could use some interior offensive line help. They like some of the cornerbacks, but again Hubbard here. I mean, I know, I know, I know Landry's on the board, but that no way, what about no, No, I understand Landry's on board. I'm just throwing another name out there for a guy that's a rush in. I love Landry, don't get me wrong.

I'm just saying I don't like to fit. I'd be surprised. But you know, Hubbard, I don't know how he fits their scheme because they play m as an outside linebacker, a guy that ran a four to nine. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I Harold, Landry makes too much sense here. Tennessee plays a three four. They play a hybrid three to four bass, but it's a hybrid down put him put put Harold. Know we all love Landry, don't. I mean we've we've thay, we've thrown names out there before.

It's true, you know, true. So let's see what in fact. But I agree, I don't I don't think that they felt like that. Okay, could they go with a wide receiver? I mean, I know Corey Davis was a pick last year, a high pick last year. You trade up for Calvin Ridley, DJ Moore? Maybe you think in Dane, could they go wide receiver here. They went wide receiver in the top five last year. Yeah, um, and I know he did.

Corey Davis didn't have a great rookie year, but be surprised to see them do it two years in a row. H Richard Matthews. Um, I don't know. I would be surprised by that, but you never know. It's possible. Another just be for Evans. Could they be trained for an inside linebacker that there's a good name that just saw. You know, Harold Danger makes the most sense. Rashaun Evans probably would be option B right in my mind. You know that makes to get in front of New England

to get Rashaun Evans. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, so keep an eye on that one. We threw out names like I say, Landry as a rusher, We've thrown out uh we touch it all on the Steelers dealing Martavis Bryant. It dealt him to the Raiders for the seventy ninth pick. Raiders making moves. Yeah, Raiders is trying to John Gruden. He's he's he's gonna he's gonna just move around the board and try and do things. So this is that the seventy. Okay, here's here's what the Okay,

so it's just a two fifteen. Are they actually fourth round pick? Right? Yeah? What numbers that fourth round pick for the Titans one twenty five? One twenty five, So one twenty five goes to uh the to the Ravens that now belongs to Baltimore. And so that made the trade, Like you say, picks in the Titans. The names that we've mentioned Evans of, we've mentioned Landry, and we've talked about a little bit I throughout Hubbard is just a throwout guy potentially, and then also we talked about maybe

a wide receiver. There's both of them are available, of the two that we feel like our first round grades or that I feel like our first round grades with DJ Moore and Calvin Ridley. So let's see if the commissioner is making his way. It looks like he is. So let's go to podium for the Tennessee Titans pick. It'll be one twenty two. Hey, there you go, brought us. You mentioned that name. That makes a lot of sense.

It's okay, So Rashaun Evans is the pick. I threw out a name earlier on that it was you guys looked at me when I said Hubbard, You guys, whoa No, Hubbard didn't make sense, but Evans made. You're a spot on because that's one of the needs of this team for the Titans inside linebacker. Sure, and they're trying to get They went in front of the Patriots and make sure they got their guy. I think I think Evans

would have been the pick, yeah, the Patriots. So yeah, I just I feel smart because I mocked Evans to Dallas at nineteen. So I was only three off. That's fine, that's good, Nothing wrong with that. Why we still have no wide receiver off the board. Why which that doesn't surprise me. No, what does surprise me is that Harold Landry is just plummeting down this draft board. But what did I say? No, I think it's because he doesn't play the run very well. I mean, I get, but

you're a liability if you can't play the run. Of course you are. You're a rookie. Rookie defensive ends don't play the run any better than rookie receivers run the full route tree. But it's not a case like Okay, Marcus Davenport. He has the size, strength, profile, where he's going to get better in that area, Harold Andry's not getting any bigger. You know, I don't think it's a no how thing. I think it's a just a size potential,

strength potential type of deal. Where again, is he I guess you said, have to measure how much of a of a warrior is it going to be? How much of a concern is it gonna be? Is gonna cost you games? It gonna cost you first downs? I think a lot of teams are thinking that this makes a lot of sense hearing you say this. It makes a lot of sense for why the Cowboys didn't want him at nineteen, but again for a three or four team,

I don't I don't know. Just just let let me have him, let me let me go, let me do that. Maybe the Patriots will feel that way. Well, this, this to me is now the I'm fascinated by this pick now at one twenty three. I'm fascinated by where the direction that the New England Patriots are gonna good they go Lamar Jackson they love him? And do they? I

think they do? I really do. I mean, and just again, I've got some guys, I've got connections and then and it's like they talk about him and like, why would you not select him? I mean they're like why, you know, they're looking at the other quarterbacks, they see the first quarterback go, they say Baker Mayfield go, and they're like going, what what? Right? Okay? You know, and so this is a team that thinks different than everyone else. I could

be dead wrong about this. It's amazing. You know, you have to make picks when you're in the Super Bowl everything, and you have a guy named this is a pick that they got from the Rams. Do you write for Brandon Cooks? Fascinating to think, you know, do you make this pick to secure your future? Like we thought what the Saints were doing or what they've done before with Jimmy Garoppolo, or if you could draft a guy who can help you right now? That's some say do you

you let him sit? You think you could give him at thirty one? Do you think you can you can wait? Who knows you may wait? I mean it the same logic applies to twenty three as it did at one. Don't play around if if if you want a quarterback, you're taking it here. And they didn't have to. They didn't have to trade for this guy. No, but but remember the Titans traded ahead of the Patriots because they thought they were going Rashaun Evans. Yeah, so Titans didn't

think they were gonna take Lamar Jackson. I don't know. I don't know if other teams or if the Patriots could be like, oh, we lost our lineback, we might as well take a quarterback. Yeah. I don't think they're thinking that. Yeah, it's I would not be surprised by Lamar Jackson here. But at the same time, could they take on these offensive lineman? Could they take could they take Daniels? When Hernando? Okay, well, how about Connor Williamson?

I mean you had Colton Mill I believe mocked to these guys, didn't you, Right, But he's off the board obviously. Who's playing receiver for these dudes? Edelman's coming back from ACL and they got quarterrel Patterson. Yeah, how's that? I mean, get the best receiver in the draft? How about this? Well? How about this though? How about the relationship between Nick Saban and and who doesn't Nick Saban have a good relationship with him at Belichicker? No, I know, I mean

he's gonna know all about about Ridley. So so okay, Well, you know we've got the patrel called. Hey, we've got some secret audio from the Layton vander Esch pick uh kick Garrison executive pruser's got that force kick. Go ahead with that, please, Layton Will m clay with the Cowboys. What's up, brother, got somebody wants to talk to you? Not all right? This is Jerry Jones with the Dallas Cowboys. Hey man, good to be talking to you again. And we're all we're all excited. Uh, we're getting ready to

turn your card in. And so we were having a little fun here and well, I'll tell you what. You have had a real distinguished trail to get where you are. But we're sure excited about where you can go. It's your potential. It's got us so excited. I am so fun for this. Well, you you're now standing young man, and you tell your parents that they've done a great job with you. And when you get here, we gotta do do even more with you when we get you here. But we're proud to have you on the team. We're

gonna be drafting here. We'll turn the card in just a minute. Here's coach Garry. Thank you, Thank you, so much Layton, Hey, coach, congratulations, man, thank you so much. Hey, well, we are really excited. I am to flely speak us right now. Well, it's a great day for you, but it's a great day for us too, And uh can't wait to get to work. You ready to go? I'm

so ready? Let's go. Good. I talked to your coat for a long time today and uh he said everything we already knew, and uh, I can't wait to uh get you in this building and get you to work. I'm good, I'm excited. Okay, I'm gonna hand the phone to Rod Marinelli. Congratulations, thank you. Hey, sud Marinelli here, Hey you fired up? What I'm so excited? Yeah, worked out, no idea, man, work. So excited to have you and what you're bringing to us. And get yourself ready to go?

All right, get ready to go. I'm so ready to go. All right, buddy? All right? That was the I always love secret audio with Rod Marinelli involved. Who stood, we gotta get stood, We gotta get Jason a new line. Yeah, great day for you, but a great day for us. Oh, I mean hey whatever, Yeah that kid that Layton Vanderish, doesn't he says that to everybody. Yeah, but I was like the hey, stud, you know, we'll get ready, let's go.

You know that thing. I remember a time in the not too distant past where the you know, I was like, well, if we could just get Marinelli some talent to work with whate that's not holding water these days. Well, the picks in for the Patriots at one twenty three. They showed Lamar Jackson and he was not on a phone, so, oh, I thought they weren't doing that tip pick tip and stuff. Well I don't I can say. I mean, he maybe he knows something we don't know. But the pick is

definitely in. And they just showed him in the in the green room. He was visiting with somebody next to him. We'll see if, in fact, Dane, you feel like this pick could be is it you know, Landry, Is that the route you would go? Or they think about one of these. We talked about the offensive linemen. Yeah, I think I think that you're talking about when Hernandez Daniels. I just think there's too much value. There's there's several good offensive linemen here. Yeah, we thought that's we're going

to go. If Colton Miller was on the board, Yeah, he's got Connor Williams is on the board, Honor Williams, Isaiah Winn Hernandez James Daniels. Good chance, it's one of those. Yeah, I asked four. I think that I think the Patriots will find a way Connor Williams will We kind of think he's the young man from University of Texas. We kind of think of him as a as a guard, don't we. And the Saints work him out as a center and a guard. It just depends inside because of

the wherever you want him about. Okay, well the New England Patriots there picks in. Here comes the commissioner to the podium. Yeah, there they go. They list him as that. That's interesting. Similar similar player, just into a versatile offensive lineman. Yeah, i'd say they He announced him as a tackle. He did announce him was a tackle. He announce he announces what they ran hi the card. Yeah. So the Patriots wrote him down as a tackle on the card. And

he's short, but he has decent length. Yeah, and we saw him the last fifteen games. He started every game for Georgia this past year. I left tackle, so we've seen him do it. He just he has a guard body he looks like your guard, your prototypical guard. But it's gonna be interesting to see if they try him outside. It would make sense given their the Patriots needs and the fact that we've seen Isaiah Win do it so we could see him play a tackle and not guard. Well,

there you go. Isaiah Winn is a New England Patriot. That was a pick that they got from the Los Angeles Rams in a trade. Uh. This this pick up here, this has a chance to be one of my favorite picks of the first round. If do you think this is gonna be the wide receiver? J J. Moore, I would love it for Carolina if it is. I don't know if it's gonna happen, but I just love that. I love that pick. Yeah, Harold Andrew still out there. Julius Peppers is fifty years old. He had eleven sacks

last year. It's amazing. But I mean he's uh seriously though, he's thirty eight years old. I mean, you know, a defensive end here would make some sense. Uh, they need corner help. Uh so you know, Mike Hughes, Josh Jackson. But yeah, DJ Moore, Steve Smith, I hate the Steve Smith comparisons. Are so overblown. I cannot watch DJ Moore and not get those vibes from him. Well, number one receiver, even a two, even if it's Calvin Ridley. I just a receiver in that mold who can come in and

and get the job done right away. Good route runner, good hands. Yeah and yeah, Carolina. For the last four years of they've just had these jump ball guys, whether it's Calvin Benjamin or Devin Funcius. Like, give Camp similar to Dak Prescott, Give Cam Newton a guy who can create space and get open. He's got that in Christian McCaffrey as a running back. But I would love to see a wide receiver who fits that mold. Yeah, Carolina Panthers, there's six minutes left on the time allotment. Uh the

picks after Carolina at is? Uh? Baltimore will pick at twenty five? Can I after them? And then Atlanta and Green Bay will be the next three picks? Can I steer this back toward the Cowboys for a hot minute go ahead? Because I kind of I touched on that and I thought maybe we'd have h coach Marinelli in here. We might still, I mean, you're still nine or ten

picks left in the round. But it's interesting to think, you know, the narrative for so long was you know, all the talent on this team is on the offense, right, It's not true anymore. I mean, whatever you think about the pick, the pick is made, don't worry about it.

Uh Layton vander Esh I mean he's gonna be expected to produce nineteenth overall pick, Taco Charlton twenty eighth overall pick, gonna be expected to produce Jalen Smith thirty fourth, Cheetah bay Owoozier pick sixty, Jordan Lewis pick ninety something, Xavier Woods third round grade found in the sixth round. No Malik Collins going back three years in the third round. I mean, all of a sudden, obviously you got Sean Lee, but Tyrone Crawford is the old head on this defense now,

which makes me feel old to say. And it's gonna be interesting because if the Cowboys hit on these picks the way that they've hit on their offensive picks, this is gonna be a pretty fearsome unit here in the next year or two. And if they didn't, then we're gonna have a lot of stuff to talk about on future draft shows about how these defensive picks have kind

of sunk part of this team. So I mean, you gotta give a guy a benefit of the doubt, even I mean feels honestly here on this show and among people that listen to it, I feel like the vander Esh pick is similar to Taco, where it's kind of like, you know, maybe a lot of people aren't doing backflips about it, but I think it's a useful guy who has upside, who can grow into a better player. I'm

certainly not closing the book on Taco Charlton. I thought he ended his rookie season on a very strong note, and so I think I'm thinking something similar about Layton Vanderesh. So I just it's gonna be fascinating to see how those picks bear out, because there's no denying they've spent the resources. There's I mean, you can't argue that there's a lot of talent on that defense. Now it's just a matter of getting him to produce. I understand Cowboys

fans being surprised by Taco last year. They should not be surprised by vander now whatsoever. Anyone that's watched us her, you know, seeing our tweets, and we've talked about lat option a. That's how I've I've described him as you know, if he's there, that makes it makes too much sense. They're looking for that mic linebacker. You move jail in to Sam. Sean leeves you're weak and you feel good

about your linebacker situation a lot more than you did yesterday. Right, I'm gonna ask you a question that you'll both hate, and Carolina's pick is in, so we'll get to that in a minute. But compare if you can, compare your expectations for what you think Layton Vanderesh can be in twenty eighteen as opposed to what you thought for Taco. And I think it's fair to say in retrospect and by like I said, not closing the book on Taco, but y'all's project of what he would be as a

rookie was pretty damn accurate. Yeah, so I thought talk would be a role player. I don't think Laton Vanders is gonna be a role player. I think they're throwing Layton van Orsh out there with the intent of go get the ball. You Sean Lee and Jalen Smith and Damian Wilson, you guys, figure it out, go get the football now. Honestly, Yeah, what the alternative do they have? And that's a good point. Yeah, which is I wonder I will be fascinated to see because we'll know quickly.

I mean, what if is this guy gonna play one hundred percent of the snaps as your mic linebacker and that gives you a versatile backup in Jalen Smith. I didn't see a guy you took off the field though. I mean seriously, I mean, I mean, he can carr. I think he's great. One, it was great. Strengths is his ability to play in the passing game, I really really do. I mean with the range and all that. I think that you know that when you played Nickel and all. If you want to put Jalen Smith's down,

the Carolina Panthers pick is in. I'll get back to my thought. Caroline is in. We're pick one, twenty four pick pick d J. I hope, so yeah, yes, yes, yes, Oh we're gonna get to see DJ Moore Yeah, week one. Absolutely, I love that pick. So you cannot watch DJ more without seeing Steve Smith. In my opinion, I love it. Yeah, DJ Moore and and David this is a guy you've really been championing all I feel psych I feel guilty because I just stole him right out from under Dane's fingertips.

Like Dane was like, look at this nice thing, and I was like, that's my thing now, all right, Well then you know I'll let you. I'm going to you right now to uh to give me a little insight on DJ Moore and what you like about him. The line that I came up with after enough time talking about him is I just feel like DJ Moore is a running back who can do all the stuff that are really good receiver can. Like once he gets the ball in his hands, he looks more like Kareem Hunt

to me than a wide receiver. Like you know, he's you're not taking him down, you're not knocking him off balance, He's not falling backward, he's fighting forward. Every time he's slipping to ackles, He's getting around guys. And to add that to a guy, I mean he's got some work to do. Don't get me wrong. I don't think he's as polished as Calvin Ridley, but like he's got I think he's got a better route tree than your average rookie receiver He's not a guy that's just only gonna

run bubble screens and go routes. And he's got really good hands. Yeah, how'd I do Dane spot? Yes, and pick some stuff up by osmosis. Sometimes you want a guy who's going to be able to get open before the catch, but also after the catch. Ye, And that's what he brings. You mentioned the running back mentality. That's that's what Dj Moore is. He's built. He's thick, not just upper body but lower body and his legs. Um. You really like his ability to create after the catch

and be more than just a possession target. Yeah, I tell you what I was suppressed with the way that he was able to adjust to the football. Yeah. They throw some balls down the field, and his quarterback play wasn't very great, you know. I mean he had to play with a lot. That's just the nicest way I think I've heard situation. It's awful thing. An NFL MVP might be able to give him the ball a little bit better. Oh gosh, Yes, I think I think this

kid right here. Yeah, Carolina is a nice job drafting And speak of the devil Steve Smith talking about the pick. Yeah, he loves him. He and I understand why. Yeah, you look in the mirror there he is good for good for the Carolina pants. That was a guy that you know, that's a guy that we kind of thought that the Cowboys would consider it nineteen and and you know, if Layton Vanderesh wasn't there, I'll be they would have maybe drafted him. I'll be the guy isn't falling guy for

a second. For anybody that hates the Layton Vanderesh pick, you know, somebody somebody tweeted at me right after the pick that way, how are you just gonna leave Calvin Ridley on the board? And I just it's it's very similar. I think it's fitting to talk about Taco when you talk about Layton Vanderesh because I think if if linebacker was as deep as some of these other positions, I

don't know that he would have been the pick. But you make this pick with the thought that you're gonna be able to find a really good receiver tomorrow, whether whether that's pick fifty or you right up from pick fifty, or even if you wait all the way to eighty one. I mean, we we kind of have an inkling that somebody's gonna fall to that range, don't you. And the mock draft I did today for Dallas Cowboys dot Com, I picked a wide receiver. I picked James Washington at nine,

at which the third round pick. I would not be happy with James Washington at pick fifty, but at pick eighty one, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I just steel like that. Maybe the safety's gonna now gain. We're gonna think about Courtland's Sutton if he doesn't go, if he does one of these teams, I mean, if he doesn't get drafted

in the next seven picks, I'm circling that name. Let's be honest here, there's an Alabama receiver sitting on the board right now at twenty five, and they're on the clock with the Baltimore Ravens, and Ozzie knew some loves his Alabama player. That sounds very Baltimore too. That sounds very Baltimore. And you have an Alabama receiver who's considered the best in the draft available to you at sixteen,

and you trade down twice and still get him. Wallace, Macklin, and Campanero are no longer on the roster, only signed Crabtree and Brown. They also will added Will yeah, none of those guys. I don't know if they would go wide receiver though, just because you think that maybe they they were looking how about the tight end. You think

that is where the first tight end goes. That's where I'm leaning Hayden Hurst, Dallas Garter one of those two, because they're still they stay in front of Jacksonville who we think could go um So, yeah about a runner quote from Steve Smith, Uh is this guys? Maybe? I mean there's somebody like that. A real quick quote from Steve Smith. They have never been able to replace me until today. That's a pretty good endorsement of djow love. I love Steve Smith just in general saying they can't

replace me. It's awesome. He knows what he's talking about. Darius, guys, here would all Darius, guys, I'm gonna there's runners. There's clearly runners on the board. I was just thinking about guys that that the Ravens had looked at. Let's see for the right they brought in They brought in guys. That's why I bring it up. They brought in guys onto us. He's the only running back they had, is it. They visited all the tight ends, they went all three

of the tight ends. They're tight end depth chart is not awe inspiring. Yeah, no, it's terrible, Max Williams Nick Boyle was trying to be nice. You don't need to be nice. Ter you got I mean Alex Collins caught on there after leaving Seattle. But again, I don't think that stops you from drafting or running back if that's what you want. Yeah, we could see it here. Um, I go back to the tight ends though, Yeah, I mean, Ridley's an outstanding value at this point. Um, which one

of the tight ends would you take? You would take Hurst? Would you take God? God's my top tight end? First? Is mine? Right? So, but I'll see if Ozzie agrees with you and I or you or I. I think they're closely rated, you know, so, I don't think you can really go wrong if you need a tight end. Either one is going to help you. Both guys can line up in line. They're both gonna help you in the passing game. Lamar Jackson's getting Nancy, Yeah he does.

He does. Lamar Jackson get drafted in it? What if again, talking about ball back and setting what they want? What if he just falls right into new England's lap at thirty That's what I was thinking, New England at thirty one. I kind of jumped up on the table for him at twenty three. Maybe New England knows exactly where this guy is gonna go, so you know it might be an opportunity there. But the Ravens are at Jacksonville, Lamar

Jackson falls in Jacksonville's lap, picks in for Baltimore. They're at one twenty five right now, and so we will see. We've we've kind of kind of hit the gamut of a lot of things. We've got Ridley on the board. We've got tight ends on the board. We've got offensive linemen on the board for the team. I mean, if you look at two the center guard combination had lost their center last year, Ryan Jensen in free agency need an upgrade over Scura Hurst's stay to be the right tack.

I mean, they this team might look at one of those Connor Williams and guys like that, guys I hate to butt in here. We've got Layton vander esh on the wall. Oh, very nice, very nice, Dallas cowboy. Layton you there, ye, hey man, what's going on? This is? You're on with David Hellman and Brian wrot Us from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Congratulations man, thank you so much. All right, so, all right, obviously we know you know the Cowboys are the ones that call you when you

get picked. But take me through the last I don't know twenty five minutes of your life and all the different people you've had to talk to and conversations that you've had. I have been on absolute cloud nine for the last twenty five minutes ever since they called me. Um. I was awaiting for them, and I had my fingers crossed on the wade hope that they were gonna make that call to me, and uh, they most definitely did.

And uh, all the hard works paying off. Now, Okay, so you know it's our job to cover the draft. We've been we've been doing this show twice a week since January. We've been talking, we've been talking about you as a possibility here in Dallas since since at least Valentine's Day. So you know, if we knew that, I'm curious on your end, just talk to take us through that relationship that you've built with the Cowboys and maybe your your hopes and your ideas that this would be

the spot for you. I don't, I honestly don't even know where to start because it's just been built so good already. I mean, I took a visit here and Uh, coach Bloom came out and worked me out at Boisi Stave threw me through a couple of drills for for linebackers, and I mean I came in on my visit here and met everybody in the organization, all the coaches and at GM and of course Jerry and Uh. That was

one of the coolest experiences of my life. And it was actually kind of cool because it was the second time I had been to the Star on a on a kind of a tour. I guess you could say. My agent is a local here in Dallas, and Uh, when I signed with him, he took me out to dinner at the Star. So it's crazy. If I could tell you the whole story right now, if we had time, I would. How ironic and kind of coincidence it's all been Layton. When when you met with them, did they

you know you play inside? Is that like as a mic linebacker? They talked about where they might start. You am I too premature on where they're going? To play. They give you an idea, like sitting down with you, watch the tape and say it, Hey, we kind of see you as a fit for this, or am I kind of jumping the gun here a little bit right now? It's kind of a toss up. I would say, they're just trying to see where I would fit best once I get run around in the field and ain't get

in the playbook. So we'll see. We'll see how that goes and what happens there. But it should be should be a quick, quick diagnosis and we'll be good to go. Leiden. You know obvious, Like I said, the draft is it's it feels like a year long thing. At this point, people start dissecting players before bowl seasons even over. And one of the talking points about you is, you know, one year starter at Boise. Some people view that as a positive, you know, still a young player, still developing

your game. Other people view it as as not a negative, just in the sense that you're not experienced. How do you see yourself as a player, how you're developing, and where you're going from here as you start your pro career. Well, I think a lot of people overlook my sophomore year I mean I was playing more than our starter was huge as a senior captain, he was just starting the games.

I was playing more than he was, and I learned a lot from him, and at that point I was kind of taking over the reins and it was my time to shine. So a lot of people don't realize what happened my sophomore year and then my junior year, I got the chance to start, and then it was like, Okay, well, who's this kid now that he's starting. So, I mean, there's no reason for that. I've always been there. I've always been confident in myself and I'm always gonna put

the work and get the job done. And I'm just ready to go now. I'm ready to go move on to my dreams. I've had my whole life, and one of them was to play here in Dallas. So we got a lot of We got a lot to accomplish here in the in the next couple of months and get ready for season, and we had to put ourselves in position to win a Super Bowl. Lay did you have any contact with Sean Lee or anybody else, any from anybody the defensive the veteran guy, I mean, Jason

Wittn or anybody. Did you when you're here at the Star and we saw you in the cafeteria there? Did you Did you get to run into any of the players while you were here on the defensive side? Yep. Yeah. I actually got to talk to Sean Lee for at least probably twenty twenty five minutes in the weight room. He was just getting done working out, and then he got in and I got to talk to him for a little bit and it was awesome seeing the type of guy he is and actually seeing him faith to

faith instead of just on TV and stuff. Um, it was surreal to me, honestly, because I'd always wanted to meet him personally, and uh, it was just it was just awesome getting that chance to mean talk with a guy like him with hike caliber. Late a unique circumstance for the Cowboys. I mean, you're you were drafted at the stadium twenty miles away. I mean, you're already in town. What's what's your night look like? They bring you up to the facility or where do you go from here?

I don't know yet. They said they would let me know. All right, beautiful man, Hey, well, we're pumped to have you thanks for coming on with us, and yeah, welcome to Dallas, man, Thank you so much. All right, have a go on. Thank Layton Vanderish the Cowboys, uh first round linebacker selected with the nineteenth overall pick. Uh. The we talked about this, Dan Bruger will bring you back here and Hayden Hurst goes to the Baltimore Ravens. So

we talked about a tight end there. It was a matter of which one if they if they didn't trade back, they might have taken him at sixteen. Yeah, so yeah, they really wanted up grade the tight end position. So not a surprise they did this. I didn't think it'd be receiver with all the additions they made in free agency. So I certainly understand the pick at Hurst at six or at trading back here and now we have Atlanta and Atlanta and the commissioners at the podium cool. I

love it. That's a great fit for Ridley. My buddy Tommy Dimitrov, you get he's gonna stock up on all these Alabamic receivers. You got Julio Jones obviously, and then Mohammed Sanu. Ridley can play inside, in the slot, can play outside the z I love it. He's going to a really good situation there Atlanta. I love that fit. Yeah. And then and the quarterback there too, Matt Ryan, one of the one of the better ones in the league. So yeah, look at the Calvin Ridley very excited, probably

very relieved at this situation. I know these guys. I mean, like, you gotta have an ego to be an elite football player. Jason Garrett says it on All or Nothing, the TV show's coming out. You gotta have an edge to make it in this league. So I get it, you want to go as high as humanly possible. But hell yes, if I'm Calvin Riddle, like I'm going to Atlanta where Julio's taking pressure off me, and DeVante Freeman and Tevin Coleman are there to make defenses, stay honest, and obviously

an NFL MVP is throwing the ball. That's where I want to be. I don't want to be in Buffalo. I want to be there playing with a bunch of beasts on a super Bowl contending team. So that's the way it usually fall. Good football teams look at that, Those players look at that. Yeah, Matt Ryan, DeVante Freeman, Tevin Coleman, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Cowboys get to play against that group again and you can win some ball games with that. Tommy Demittrof though, nice job picking a player.

It fell right to him. Sometimes you stay very patient it sits right in your lap. Dan kind, let's reset a little bit here. I'll go back a few picks. Tennessee at twenty two took Rashaun Evans, a linebacker from Alabama. The New England Patriots took Isaiah Win. They list him as a tackle from University of Georgia. Carolina took Dj Moore. We all love that pick from Maryland. And then Tennis at Baltimore took Hayden Hurst to tight end from South

Carolina at twenty five. And now at the Atlanta Falcons at one twenty six, take Calvin Ridley, the wide receiver from Alabama. Dan, can you reset for me who you've got left as far as some of the guys, so maybe some of your top fifty Harold got Harold Landry still out there? Yeah, Harold Landry would be my top rated players. Well, Nils, we don't Maurice Hurst, we don't know what's going on with the medicals. He's he's probably gonna fall at least in day two. Yeah, Will Hernandez

is out there, Darius Guice, Mike Hughes, Uh, Daven Bryan. Yeah, we're kind of surprised. David Bryan still out there. So some some good names and Seattle's coming up here. U. What did I say the shock? Why don't was it on their No, we were upstairs when I said it, the shock of the first round. It'd be a Seattle traded back and took Griffin. Yeah you think wow? So they would no again? I said it because it would be a shock. Wow. Well they did the trade back part.

Let's I mean, I know his brother plays there, but man, no, it's probably this is this is the pick that went from New Orleans to green Bay? Right? Am? I correct about that? And then and now it's in Seattle's hands. So let's see because green Bay traded back up, which I don't want to put y'all on the spot. I can't even keep track of my chicken scratch? How many? How many trades have we seen tonight? One two and two teams have traded twice. Green Bay and Baltimore are

both traded twice. Right, Dane to go back you're talking about like seven trades, I think, yeah. To go back to Maurice Hurst, the defensive tackle from Michigan, UH talking some teams around the league. He has a what they're calling a thickening of the heart in which he's played through and if he UH can't correct, you can't correct this and if they do surgery, it will end his career. So you just kind of need to find a round

where you're comfortable taking him. He did play with this at Michigan, but it is a thickening of the heart, and so we will see some teams do have him off the draft board. But again, you just need to find around where you're comfortable taking him and uh and go from there. So that kind of tells you a little about Maurice Hearst, the defensive tackle from from Michigan. He's going to be off just a lot of boards.

That's just how it's going to be. Um who knows, it's anyone's guess what boards he's on and at what point in the draft. Teams feeling find find around where you at, you know, and again it's something that if he if he has it corrected, then that will end his career. I'm I mean, I've I've whipped on trying to project Harold Landry about five times tonight. But Seattle needs I mean, Malik McDowell's off the team a year after they drafted him. Yeah, and obviously I mean because

the accident. Not right, right, Yeah, different positions, But Taven, Brian, maybe you want a three tech. Maybe you want a pass rusher to help Frank Clark. Yeah, Frank Clark's in the final year of his deal, so you need edge help Harold Landry. We've been and that was my first thing, sat here and argued over Frank Clark and he's already coming up on the end of the verre. But yeah,

you're right. It wasn't Irving. Whose guy was that? By the way, it was your guy when I when I saw that, that was the first thing that went through my head, Like he's about free agency getting old long, we've been doing that. Well, here we go the Seahawks. We've talked about some of the things that you mentioned. Defensive end. It's just too much value right there. I mean, Harold Landry something, I mean, here's a guy, like I said, this guy wins on the first step. Dip Flatten the

quarterback and Chase. I mean, there's a lot of really good things about Harold Landry and the tape. I wonder if the tape Dane from this year, Dave. I wonder if people just sat there and to valuated the tape this year and said, you know what, this is what he is, and they didn't look at two thousand and sixteen. How are you going to do that again? I think it comes back to he's a very good pass rusher,

but you worry about him versus the run. It's you cannot have him out there if he's a liability, if he can't shut down the edge, and so I think the fact that he can't play the run is the biggest reason why we're still seeing him in the stress. And it's not that he can't, it's just that he struggles. It's going to be inconsistent. Some plays. He'll do a nice job, you know, stringing run plays outside. Sometimes he'll get dominated at the point of attack and it'll open

up run lanes off tackle more the running back. I'll tell you what, Dame Brewer, you're a smart scout. I thought this, you know again, initial quickness off the ball, wrap a tap plays signment, but will get fooled at times, doesn't always find the ball, can redirect when he needs to, will struggle when the ball comes right at him. Players where who get washed out of the way, has the quickness to capture the edge, needs to use more moves.

I thought like he had some passers smooth, But I was kind of thinking, like, you know, maybe if you put him at that wide nine and let him go. Yeah, well, here's John Snyder. Uh. And then they're they're showing the war room right now, Paul Allen Uh in the middle of the with talking to Pete Carroll and also dealing. Where's is yet John standing up? Is that Snyder to the left of Pete Carroll? Yeah, looking like he's heading to a van. Yes, he's going to a pearl jam Conco.

He looks like he is. That's my former intern. Ny. I like that guy, Johnny Snyder, my former guy. So, yeah, he is about to make a pick. Here the picks in at one twenty seven, we'll see John John Schneider seems like the type of guy who like he might be wearing flip flops. You know, everybody, everybody, you can be grief all the time about him. It's like since he fights us out for beer, and you're kind of like, yeah,

why why do we go? Hey, let's go trade war stories with the GM of a super Bowl winning team. And you're like, Oh, I don't want to bother him. No, Like he's wearing flip flops and everybody in Dallas is wearing a three piece suit, and just I love his vibe. Yeah, well, it's a good Well the pick is and we'll see which direction we go. We feel like it's gonna be defense. Dane kind of gave you some of the guys we

talked about. Landry I still have Hughes the corner from Central floors, Jacks on board, Josh Jackson's still out there. Uh yeah, I'm you know, if they got there's offensive lineman that are still available. We've talked about Daniels, Hernandez or guys as well. And Connor Williams too is there as well. O'Neill is another guy. So uh, plenty. You know,

Seahawks now picking at twenty seven. There there's some quality players for them to to kind of look over, uh and uh and see if they would like to make that pick. Oh Man, Seattle's been on the clock for about two days. I'm just I'm I'm just pulling stuff out of nowhere right now. But no, man, you've got two more days of this day. But we have got to walk at thee. I'll let no no, no, no no, and that's I'll I'll let make this pick real quick.

Good they'll make this pick. Whoa, whoa. I mean, good player, but that's a I shocker with this pick. Just different player. Um wow, you would think that he'd be available. I guess they Seattle doesn't have a second or third round pick. They don't, but they sure don't. Man. That's that's But if you think about the running backs, and Pete Carroll probably knows Ronald Jones, I mean he's got those USC connections. Uh you know Carron Johnson, Guys, Sony, Michelle, Nick, Chubb Wiley.

Those were all guys I had above Penny. So uh wow, I'm I'm I'm gonna put up pull out my Homer hat for a I'm sorry, Darius Guys is still on the board. Come on, yeah, way, Well, if you're taking a running back, that's no, that's my I mean, you're drafting, you're drafting Rashad Penny. Yeah, and Darius Guys is still there. Yeah huh. And I do like John Schneider and I trust his evaluations because he's built himself a pretty nice team up there. But man, he's got more more hardware

than you and I do. You're damn right. Oh wha wait, he's got two that's right. Yeah, he gets you. He's got me by one yet one together, one one together. That's what he's got me on he has. He built one of those balls. He sure did. Okay, let's talk about talk about Penny Dane. Maybe we kind of understand. I mean, he's a good looking kid physically running the football. I mean, you see him, he's got some finish to him. Did Did you have a problem with him as a

pass blocker? Was that kind of where where things go with him? A little bit? That that he wasn't That wasn't the complete back that we all thought he might be. Right, we know he can run the football over two thousand yards this year impact kicker Turner as well. Sure showed the ability to catch the ball in the backfield and needs to get better in that area, but showed the ability he could. His pass protection was a disaster. He

needs to get better than that area. And I've said it before, but I was encouraged that he has said that he is not very good right now. He knows that's his weakness pass protection, and he knows he needs to get better. Big question is will he so still? I mean, I'm very surprised he was my fifty eighth best player and surprised he went ahead of guys Ronald

Jones to Georgia running backs which carry on. Johnson, I do this thing every year where I try to pick thirty two that I tried to thirty two guys who I think they're going to go, and I probably never considered him. I did well, and I thought I was crazy because I put Ronald Jones on him, and I was right to think that that might happen. But I picked I was off on the guy by a lot. Wait, so I'm sorry, but before this comes in, that's where I was trying to go. Before that, well, I'm okay,

Lamar Jackson. I'm looking at this ticker here. Yeah, Steelers make a little You could you could convince me in the Steelers. You could can. Honestly, Pittsburgh Jacksonville in New England all makes sense as a land of the Philadelphia takes here's the thing that scares the crap out of me. And that's why before the Seattle pick, I said, oh no, yeah, what what kind of draft capital did the New York Giants have to trade up? They? I mean, let's look

at their board. I think they were. I think they were. They were hurting for some picks they've got. They've got They've done the third, Yeah, they got one in the second. Yeah, they got the Actually they've got pick sixty six and sixty nine, and that's worth uh, two sixty and two forty five for you math experts, gentile under gentleman, I don't want any part of Lamar Jackson and sae Quon Barkley both being in New York. And then maybe the Giants don't even have to trade up to do it.

Maybe they can just let him fall the thirties. It's funny because no one's drafting him. They take with those offensive linemen. If the Steelers draft him, everyone in the AFC North is going, oh crap, yeah, oh you know, I mean, like no one's drafting him. But still once he is draft did the rest of the teams of the division are going to be like, oh no, nobody was drafting Derek Carr either and he was the best

quarterback that came out of that class. Inside linebacker, corner, wide receiver, and quarterback are the ones you need to think about here at Pittsburgh High projected read here the safety from Stanford. Yeah, I think that's a direction they can go. We could see a running back here. We don't know how Levion Bell situation is going to work out. We think they could go defensive line with at some

depth they had some help up front. I don't as a linebacker worth here, you know, Brian Shizier, we know is out? Is there a linebacker? We feel good here? With the top four off the board. Could they go for some this is too high for him. They probably wouldn't do it. It wouldn't take Josie Jewel here, would they? No, they won't. What if they took Griffin m that. I'll trying to get real wild with it tonight. I like it now. I'm just saying no. I mean, I mean

you can't. I mean and I mean, hey, got the warner, I mean Hughes. Hughes makes a lot of sense there, though done it? I mean corner I had lit his corners are second need inside linebacker, corner, wide receiver. I got that right. Yeah, so maybe maybe that's the Maybe Hughes is what's wrong with Hughes? I mean, do we do? We do? We did think he was? I mean I got a first round God, you have a second ground round grade on him. I've got a one two. I

mean on my board, he's little. Here we go. Commission's gonna TELLU. So it is, he's getting ready to be a pro Bowl. I don't worry about it. Wow, that's great. I go both Edmund's brothers go out in the first round. There he is. That was a pretty cool moment. That is a very kil moment. So they you thought Dane, they thought they were gonna take the safety read and instead they'd take Terrill Edmonds, the safety from Virginia Tech.

He was a thirty visit guy for the Cowboys, and so talk a little bit about him, Dane, and what this Virginia Tech safety can bring to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I wasn't as high on him. I think he's he struggles in coverage. He's a big, physical guy, can come out hitch a verse to run. Tested really well at the combine, tested it off the charts really, but I thought you watched him in coverage and he was out of position a lot gave up spacing, So I worry

about him in that respect. So I see him as more of a strong than a free and I think that's what really Pittsburgh needed as a true free safety. I would guess they're gonna triumph it free first, so I'm eager to see how this one plays out. Yeah, he's one of those guys. It's got a good pedal, but it takes him a little bit to get going. And once he does, though, he's all right with that wrap up tacker. He's not smooth, but he can cover some ground play in the slot, tackles well up space.

He could save the day with his tackling ability. There were plenty of times on tape where again the rest Virginia game Duket Miami, where he had to eight players or breakdowns and he was able to make the play well. But I thought he'd tracked the ball pretty well against Duke. They used him as a blitzer a little bit can carry the tight in and where for the crosser. Some change of direction there. But you know I'm with you on that. I mean the notes read a lot more

better than him. I had him as a fourth round player, So we'll see exactly where they play him. I'm with you, Dan, I think he was more of a strong safety and he really was a free But we'll see how the Steelers, in fact, you play him. His set of brothers every been selected in the same first round. I mean, guess Tiki Barber and Ronde Barber were both I think one was a third the top three picks. Yeah, and so that happened in nineteen eighty seven. But in the same

first round two brothers. I don't I don't know. I thought my head. I can't think of anything either. Yeah, random observation on my part. But good note though, Dane, is it is? It is? How does his safety one of the harder positions to grade in football these days, especially with the way the game is played and how

hard it is to play that position. Well, it's it's it's if you have a guy that's a banger safety, you know, a guy that'll hit the guys out of the game, the rules, the rules are are taking those guys. They're taking Darren Woodson out of the game, or Ronnie Lott or those types of guys. The reason I ask is I feel like this is maybe the third year in a row where a safety like this has gone in the middle to late first round that nobody really agreed on. Karl Joseph comes to mind, Um, who's the

Keyan O'Neill is another guy that comes to mind. And it's like you find people all over the board, Like, clearly the Steelers like this guy enough to draft him twenty eight. You just said he's a fourth round grade? What was your grade? Dan? Third? Mid third? So that that's my I mean, typically for the most part, you have a pretty firm consensus on these guys, but that just doesn't seem like it's been the case at safety, with a few exceptions for guys like Derwin James. It

seems like beauty's in the eye of beholder. The beholder with this position more so than a lot of others. All Right, Jacksonville is on the clock. Their pick is in. We'll wait for that. I was talking with some sources in Jacksonville even before the draft, and they were asking me about tight ends. Who I had as a tight ends. I think this is where your guy goes Dane. I think this is Goddard. Goddard go it makes sense, yea,

Lamar Jackson still on the board. Yeah, I have to man, Okay, you want to talk about that, then, would you rather would you take Jackson over Goddard in this situation? I would yeah. I mean, because you don't really trust Blake Bortles to you, right, And I know they resigned him, but that's fine. Lamar Jackson can sit and learn and at the very least you can get him on the field and some type of package and use his athleticism.

But this Jacksonville Jaguars team is poised to win now, and so I get it they don't go in that direction. If they go for a Connor Williams or a Dallas Goddard, it certainly makes sense because that's more of a player that's going to help Now, Dave and you thought about that, that's tough, man, because I mean it's the ultimate catch. Twenty two is like Lake Bortles. Is he a guy that's gonna play there for the foreseeable future. I know Tom Coffin's kind of throwing him a little bit of

a lifeline a little bit, right. This is a team that was a touchdown away from the Super Bowl, and you're drafting a guy who maybe won't help you in twenty eighteen. Like that's a tough pill to swallow. It's a lot like trading away a future one. It's like, this is a good idea, but it might bite us in the long run. I'm so glad I don't have

linebacker tackle tied end wide receiver. We don't feel like the wide receivers are that involved with the ones, at least the first round wide receivers, but linebacker, offensive tackle tied end. I do feel like, again, I got a pretty good source down there in Jacksonville, and he was asking me about tight ends and how I kind of had him ranked, and I mean maybe mentioned too that how Dane had his, and so we were all kind of but this seems very much like that kind of

a pick. Their pick win in pretty early once they went on the clock. Once the Steelers made their pick, they felt like that they had their guy and Tom Coughlin running things down to him and David Calwell uh doing things with the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's a good team to watch. So they'll be here at at and T Stadium. You know that'd be a difficult matchup, don't you think their day. Yeah, I'm touchdown away from the super Bowl everywhere.

Here's the commissioner. Yeah all right, yeah, why not just add another monster to that defense? Since already fantastic. Did you feel like that Taven Bryan was gonna I mean you mentioned him earlier, right, yeah, I thought he was up. Once we got to the Cowboys pick at nineteen, I thought that's when you Taven Brian. Watch started. Um, surprise, he got past a few teams Atlanta, although they took

a nice player in Calvin Ridley, um upfield penetrator. The traits, the traits are better than the tape right now, Um, you know you worry about I care more about traits than production. But his lack of production did scare me a little bit because he can get into the backfield, but I need a guy that can finish. I think that he still has room to develop. He will get better, but I still worried a little bit about him. He was played more like a second round player than a

first round player. But the traits are first round worthy, and so I think here at this point in the first round, I think this is this is an appropriate value of where he should have come off the board. Yeah, Tevin, I like the way I thought the quickness that you

were talking about. You know, they're showing right now the highlights of Texas A and M. He was a dominant player in that game, and I thought he did do a pretty good job with moves pass rush moves, using his hands, free himself, hit the gap, you know, chase disruptive. You know, he could draw holding calls of seeing him do that a bunch. He has been to the quarterback.

He's a hard guy to work in front of when he when he gets going up the field and makes a move, he is a hard guy to get your body in front because he's got so much quickness and he's outside the tackle box type of a player that use him to the twist game. Pretty good pick right there for the Jaguars. Again, that's a team it's pretty salty on defense right now. He was number twenty nine on my board. Look at that this Okay, they got they got Klais Campbell, Malie Jackson, Tavan, Bryan Yannick and

Gaguay And that doesn't even have Dante Fowler. I mean, and actually I love that, Like this right here illustrates the beauty of the NFL. If I'm a Browns fan, I love watching the Jags pick twenty ninth because the Jags were a staple in the top ten, Like they were coaching the Senior Bowl every year, eight freaking years. They're picking twenty ninth and just adding guys to an already loaded front seven. Love it. So that puts the Minnesota Vikings on the clock. Heck, they know who their

pick is. They've already got that thing in So maybe they want a guard. Yeah, a guard, you think they would? They got they got, Ever, I don't know what else they Hernandez falls them. It's a perfect fit on what else? What else could they possibly want? I mean honest, like, what are what other holes do they have? They're they're a team that doesn't have many. They got they got the quarterback, they drafted a running back last year. They

got their receivers. There's studs all over their defense. They could they could go U corner. You know Terrence Newman, they still haven't resigned him, he's still out there. Could go corner. Uh, they could go you know, we know Mike Zimmer likes upgrade the defensive line. Yeah, Anthony Barr set for a big pay day. Maybe they look for his future replacement. So I think there are a lot of different directions they could go, but guards sticks out like a sore thumb as an maybe their top need.

And with will Hernandez sitting there, James Daniels too, they gave Kirk Cousins a ton of money and the tah trying to protect him. There you go. They did visit Connor Williams, uh and he is there. Let's see who else they got there picking the litter. Yeah, they can. They could take whoever they want if they want to. If if they want to put Connor Williams to guard, you know, if that's something Dane, you feel like that they need to do. Draft him and see what they

had the most exactly. Well that's yeah, on the right side, that's what they were thinking because with a Mike Remmers, yeah right, tackle, I think about moving him inside to guard. So as a possibility, well, it looks like that. The Viking said their pick is in the commissioners, making his way to the podium, Chris pick one thirty in the first round. Here we go, Yeah, here you go. You

talked about you talk about Terrence Newman. He's unsigned that you know, they need a Nickel guy McKenzie Alexander hasn't quite lived up to what they were hoping. So they're set on the on the outside with Davia Rhodes. And who's our Michigan State corner, Trey Waynes. Yeah, thank you, And so Mike Hughes can step in compete for that Nickel job right away and get on the field. Dave No, Well, I'm hey, and I went hard on guard, but that rhymed.

I thought it would be a guard. But if it wasn't gonna be a guard, Dane threw it right there for you. And that, I mean, god, that the defense is a lot like Jacksonville. That defense is we got the Neil Hunter, they got Anthony Bard, they got Eric Kendricks, Harrison Smith, Xavier Rhodes. So yeah, I mean, damn, And I mean obviously you're projecting here, but if Mike Hughes plays the way that you think he's capable of, that is a really nice combo of guys that can play

on the outside between him and Rhodes. Who think Xavier Rhodes is one of the most underrated players in the entire NFL. He's probably a top five corner, Well, guess who's back on the clock. Yep, it would be the New England Patriots at thirty one, and I basically jumped up on the table. I'd be surprised that they pick here. To be honest, you think they're gonna back out of the picks in the first round and they don't trade

either one, I'd I'd be surprised. A couple that with the fact that everybody in the world expects Philly to trade out of thirty two. So you think you get back to back trades out of the first round. Who's trying to I mean if somebody wanted to trying to get the fifth year option. We talk about the guys that are still available on my board. I look at Harold Landry, Lamar Jackson, James Daniels, and Will Hernandez. Those will be guys I've talked about Connor Williams. Those will

be kind of five guys that I would think. You know, the Patriots, they have the opportunity. There's three basically, there's a center and two guards and the potential tackle if that's what you wanted to wanted to do right there. So Harold Dandry's still sitting there staring them in the face. Yeah, and so you know, so maybe there was more more injury stuff than uh, you know, we know about you know, we know that what's plagued him throughout his senior year.

You hope not, you hope, uh there's you know, medically he was cleared. But maybe that is part of the reason why he's sliding a little bit here. Yeah, I can't think of any I mean, okay, I hear you, I hear you loud and clear about the run defense. But that can't that can't be the reason why he's in danger of falling out of the first round. That alone, I mean, and I know this is a bad example because he didn't pan out, but our kevious main went six. Overall,

he was the size of a bean stock. Maybe teams are learning, maybe, but I when you see a guy that can bend the way Harold Landry can, it's kind of I mean, it's very surprising that he tested well to you know, so the testing numbers matched the tape in that respect. But again, if you're a liability versus run, teams will find you, you know, and they will run it right down your throat. Boston college kids are good players, though every time they've ever drafted and they've been good.

Not questioning his toughness, not questioning you know, his competitive drive will to be good. I'm not questioning any of that. It's just physical limitations for a guy that's really there are several linebackers that are bigger than him, and so that's just, you know, this is how things are. He doesn't have the other body's strength to uh turn blockers, to overwhelm at the point of attack. This is not

who he is. But at the same time, I'm with you, guys, I'm still surprised that he is available at this point. The past, what he can do as a pass rusher, that type of production should have had him off the drive off the board by now. There's too much Is there too much value? Again? You mentioned Landry and and that's good, but there's just too much value right now for Lamar Jackson. It's just too much. It just as a just as a weapon, clearly not just a weapon.

Let me ask you real quick if Lamar Lamar Jackson and an agent, you think things would be different right now? Do you think that plays the partle with with visits, with workouts with it, I mean teams. Do you think this team team said they couldn't get in contact with them. They couldn't you know, to try to set up workouts and then they can't get in contact with I mean, who knows. Maybe things are different if he had an agent.

You can't rule that out completely. I don't think I buy it again like that, if you if you can do your job well, the NFL finds you, you know. Yeah, but maybe for a few teams that were considering him in the first round, uh, you know, if they're worried that, you know, who's you know, who's whispering in his ear? You know what kind of brain trust does he have behind him to you know, is it's just something to consider. H Yeah, for part of the reason why he's falling

a little bit. So it's who else has left in the green room besides him and Shaq Griffin. There was Conilliams, them that were invited. Connor Williams was the vast majority of them have been picked. But also going back to Brian's point from an hour or so ago, New England's pick is in and Lamar Jackson was not on the phone just now, so that doesn't sound likely. I'm surprised New England's picking to be honest. I mean they Bill Belichick moves up, moves down. He rarely stays put, especially

with two picks in the first round. Speaking of learning, maybe he learned that at some point you need to add talent to your team. Yeah, all those Super Bowls are really wearing on him. Hey, hey, I'm not hating because I mean, obviously the Patriots can do whatever they want. They've won five freaking super Bowls. But I mean, you got a draft guys at some point, right, Like it's the same thing with Cleveland not getting cute at four.

At some point, just add some talent to your roster, especially if you're running up on the end of your Hall of Fame quarterbacks career, which that day is going to be here eventually. Well, the pick has been in for a while now, we're just waiting for the commissioner to walk to the podium and give it. David's right. Lamar Jackson was not on the phone, but the commissioner's walking,

so let's go hear him talking. Wow, nice, nice one. Ah, Tony Michelle, the running back from the University of Georgia. I have two thoughts. Yeah, I'll let y'all. First of all, New England just gets whatever they want, like they just they can. They get nice things out the wazoo too. Can't believe Darius Guys is going to be the fourth running back. Well, Matt, maybe I can't believe rerunning backs

went off the board before Darius Guys. He's not getting drafted to Night unless he goes to Philly here at thirty two, but I know people have been mocking him there. Yeah, they have so interesting pick here with Sony Michelle. You think of him as an every down back. You feel comfortable leaving him on the field and third downs. He's a true north South guy, grinder, balanced, He can help you out in the passing game as both a blocker

and receiver. Needs to work on the fumbles, needs to improve his ball security, but he's just an all around good player. I think you feel I'm a little surprised New England took him here, but I think this is the range, you know, between twenty five and forties where we saw him coming off the board. Yeah, this guy's a tough runner. Explosive two and through the hole, can see it and go stop start, quitness, balance, can run

through tacklers, outstanding quickness. I mean he finishes from all distance, can get insider out. Not many chances for receptions. That's something teams are gonna have to But he's a willing blocker out on the edge. Will go low and cut this guy. But kind of a really well built guy when you look at him, kind of square tough, you know when when he takes some hits, delivers some blows.

I I have other running backs ahead of him, But I can understand the Patriots Again, they're none of those teams that don't give a damn what I think about their draft board. I hear what you're saying, but you're you're you're loaded. You're damn near guarantee to be in the AFC title game as long as Tom Brady's healthy. I'm really surprised about Lamar Jackson there. But this is this is just a fun fricking player, and you're picking

I mean, you're basically picking in the second round anyway. Yeah, I mean I love this pick this. I mean this is like, um, who's my guy who should have been MVP when they beat Atlanta? James White? Yeah, James White on steroids. Yeah, It's like it's the same stuff James White can do, but better I think right, so I get it. But again, I mean to your point, one of these days Tom Brady is gonna be done playing, right, So how useful is a gadget back if you don't

have a quarterback who can get him the ball? Well, and with Sonny Michelle, I mean you have to There were some teams that had him off the board as the Medicals, and so apparently here's a trade. It's one of them. Baltimore going to get Lamar. I don't know, man, but Dallas got No, it's a Kayan Hurst. Like we said, Courtland Sutton. With the amount of dealing Philly has done, it seemed Howie Roseman was desperate to get out of

this pick. He needs some more draft capital. Yeah, well it looks like now again, like David and Dane said, Baltimore is now on the clock. We are in the final pick. That's Baltimore's third trade of tonight. By the way, Ozzie, he's going out with a bang. Ozzie's traded more times tonight than the Cowboys have in the last like five drafts combined. Well, here we are, the Ravens are on the clock. I'd be really interested to see what direction did they go to with I keep talking about the

quarterback here. Why would you do this if it wasn't for a quarter back? But that's what I said about Maybe they're trying what I said about the Saints two hours ago. Yeah, well, let's kind of let's reset. Who are the some of the guys. We've talked a bunch about Harold Landry. They need help on the offensive line. Yeah, and they got a choice there, I mean Daniels both and then we've also talked about Connor Williams. Yeah, Connor

Williams is still there. So I mean you're you're looking at guys that are potentially uh you know, they need a right tackle. Yeah. Um, And so Connor Williams did make a ton of sense here. If that's a direction they go, I wonder what they gave up, because they moved up a good chunk. So they went from the they went from them, their second and their third most likely. Well let's see, so they're picking and they added Hayden

Hurst earlier. Yes, right, okay, right, so there isn't Goddard. Yeah, they if they if if they went on their spot where they're picking is at fifty two. So do you think they went on. Do you think that you don't think it? Maybe next year's one involved here. Well, I don't think they had to. I think they trade their second and the third to get here, right, I think that would have been enough. Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, you're right about that, the second and the third. So the

second though, if i'm again, there's so many trades. We gotta I gotta get my chart right here. I think that was the tenth of the night. Yeah, it's close. I mean, well, the picks in, we'll figure this all out. Baltimore has made so many trades. I gotta get my trade chart right again. There comes Roger, Here comes the commiscial. This would be the last pick of the night, should be hey, well there he goes Lamar Jackson, the very

talented quarterback from the University of Louisville. Kind of a little bit of a saying, remember Teddy Bridgewater, very similar, right, that's right. The VIKI straight it up to the last pick in the first round, and twenty fourteen NFL Draft took Teddy Bridgewater. Here we go with the Ravens trading up another another purple team trading to pick thirty two to get their quarterback. You're Joe Flacco. You're like, huh, yeah, what but too bad? Joe play better? Uh So Lamar Jackson,

he's going to Baltimore. Aussie. Newsom, in his final first round as a general manager, takes Hayden Hurst and then trades back in for Lamar Jackson. Kind of like what they did. Sure, I mean, I mean because I mean I like Lamar Jackson very much in the first round then and then Hayden Hurst was my my best tight end. So I'm I'm totally okay with with what they with what they did right there with the Rays pH Lamar Jackson and my draft board. Guess where he was thirty two? Yeah? God, Dan,

you're so good. We're gonna lose you to an NFL team. I love this pick. I mean, anytime you do something like this, that's this. This is what the Saints should have done. And if Marcus, if Marcus Davenford is Reggie White, I'll apologize, but I just I love this. I mean, you don't need him to play right now, but he could certainly you could certainly find something for him to do as a rookie. And this is I know Ozzie Newsom is getting ready to retire. But this is one

of the more stable franchises in the NFL. This is a great place for him to develop. Two quarterbacks are going to be linked a little bit. Yeah, in the AFC North Baker Mayfield went one, absolutely, Lamar Jackson went thirty two, the final pick in the first round. Those two quarterbacks are going to be compared over the next how many years as rookies from this class. One went at the first pick, one went the last pick in the first round, And we'll see how that plays out.

Which also going back to my point, he's in the AFC where he's only the Cowboys problem. Actually, Baker Mayfield and Lamar how many how many quarterbacks drafted tonight are going to be the Cowboys problem on a regular basis? Any of them? No, not a single one. No, that is that's music to my ears. Two years after Carson Wentz was drafted into this division. I'm serious. I mean, yeah, I didn't want any part of one of those top four guys going to New York, and I didn't want

any part of Lamar Jackson winding up there. Because they're picking at the top of the second round. I mean that's big stuff. If you're a Cowboys fan in my opinion, because one of those multiple of these guys are gonna hit and even bigger. If you put your paycheck on the over on four and a half quarterback going in the first round, you're pretty happy right now. Good. Yeah, Baltimore came to your rescue. Yeah, absolutely, you were, you were. You were sweating at the very end. Let me go

back from recap some of these picks. Dane mentioned Baltimore at twenty five with a trade to Tennessee from with Tennessee took Haydon Hurst. Then Atlanta at twenty six took Calvin Ridley, The Seattle Seahawks took Rashad Penny, the running back from San Diego State. Pittsburgh took Terrell Edmonds Jacksonville,

Tevin Bryant, the very talented defensive tackle from Florida. Minnesota took Mike Hughes, quarterback from Central Florida, New England, at thirty one, Sony Michelle, running back from Georgia, and then the final pick of the night to end the first round. In this round began at seven oh seven, it ends at ten thirty seven, So faster than your average first round. Yeah, So Lamar Jackson quarterback. Uh is the final pick the Ravens trade to the Philadelphi Eagles. Will get all the

particulars on that trade. Shut real quick. So you're talking about times. Casper in Denmark just tweeted us and said he's heading a bed at five thirty five am. Thank you very much, Casper. We will be back with you tomorrow night for sure on that. Okay, as we u we reset the board. Yeah, I want you, Dane. I want you to reset what we've got going into tomorrow again. The Cleveland Browns, Yeah, we'll be on the clock tomorrow. And so they got thirty four and thirty three and

thirty four thirty five. You're right, Yeah, that's right from Houston, the thirty three and thirty five with the giants in between. Uh, Dane, kind of reset what you got and I will throw out what I have. The top guy available as Harold Landry. But I think there's some medicals involved here. Yeah, that

has to be about I asked. I take that back, because I asked about him and he had a high ankle spring and the check on the high ankle was okay, so maybe more something else going, maybe more, but it was a high ankle and I heard things were okay, So Cleveland. Cleveland didn't get Bradley Chubb. Harold Landry maybe could be nice consolation. Absolutely so Harold Landry's top available. James Daniels is two, Maurice Hearst is three, although with

hers again the medical situation. Four Will Hernandez the guard from Utah. Five Darius Geiss running back LSU six, I have Ronald Jones USC running back. Seven, Josh Jackson corner from Iowa. Dallas Goddard number eight tight end from South Dakota State, nine Isaiah Oliver corner from Colorado, and then ten Anthony Miller wide receiver Memphis. So if you're the Cowboys, you're sitting there. Only two wide receivers came off the

board in the first round. You start thinking about if the Earl Thomas thing, that's not an option right, Think about, shoot, did DeMarcus Lawrence, which we talked about, You got your linebacker, go get your wide receiver, whether that's Courtland Sutton and Anthony Miller. I prefer Anthony Miller. I would not be shy trading two and three to move up in the second round to get my guy. I really that's something

I'm circling, and hey, let's target a spot. Then if we can, let's pat ourselves on the back because we're wrong as hell all the time. But I think we said at the top of this that Layton vander Esch and Vita Vea or the two names that we felt really strongly about going into tonight, and I just sort of have if the opportunity presents itself, I wouldn't be shocked if the Cowboys use pick eighty one to get a receiver they feel, well, let's look at again we've targed.

When we did the show from Henry's Tavern the other day, we talked about the Colts. Yeah, Colt's own pick thirty six and thirty seven. Could this be a spot where we see them trade up for Courtland Suddon. Let's to say thirty seven because it's a cheaper pick. Yeah, so that's a thirteen spot jump. Okay, let me talk to you about that, David. From fifty to thirty seven. Somebody helped me with the Matthew. If you want to go

to thirty seven, it's five thirty on the pick. Okay, for the thirty seven you own four hundred, so one hundred and thirty one hundred and thirty. Your third round pick at eighty one is worth one hundred and eighty five. Oh, it's an overpay. So it's overpay, but it might be a situation where you could get them to flip something back to you. So you send Tom eighty one and they send you. Yeah, we have the whole selection thing right here. What if they send you their their next

pick and the say, their fifth round pick. How many points different are we talking days? Well, Indie picks in the fifth round at one forty yea, So what's the number. What was the number of difference on that? That's only worth thirty seven points right there? So that actually that works. That's math. That works pretty well. Okay. So so eighty one is worth one eighty five, yes, and fifty is

worth four hundred yes. And you're talking about one hundred and thirty points difference, right, So if you get how many points for the fifth rounder, for the fifth rounder you get for them, it would be thirty seven. So, I mean it's still an overpay, but you feel better about it. You're gonna so you're making I mean, you're overpaying by twenty to thirty points instead of fifty or sixty, which that's negligible. Yeah. Absolutely. The thing is is INDI's

the one with the pick. Are they gonna be willing to play ball? Just because that's what the chart says you should do, It doesn't mean you have to. Because we saw what happened Oakland bail. They should have got a two and a five for their drop back, right, and then they got a three and of five right. And that's so if people sleeping on their boards tonight, you know, Dane just gave you ten names, you go back.

I just you go back to DeMarcus Lawrence. The Cowboys overpaid because they thought he was the last guy in the draft that fit their criteria for what they wanted. So if that's how they feel about Courtland Sutton or we'll say Anthony Miller too, if that's how they feel, they'll they'll overpay if they think it's going to get the job done for the guy that they have to have. D rather that they go get Courtland Sutton or Will Hernandez, Oh will Hernandez Rnandez still sitting there, Yeah, I would

get her. Just play that game. How about James Daniels? Yeah? Whatever, I think there must be a medical thing with Daniels. Jeff Jeff Kavanaugh would shut the hell up real quick if they did that. Huh, get your linebacker and your offensive line right. Uh. In my my report on him, he underwent right knee surgery before the two sixteen season, had torn meniscus. Uh, you want miss some time ten seventeen with a nice sprain. You just wonder if maybe

the knee was red flag. We'll see, okay, all right, just real okay, So will Hernandez and James Daniels, Courtland Sutton and Anthony Miller. Yeah, um, thank you, DJ Charks probably and then Dark and absolutely totally dismissed them. Can't totally dismiss Christian Kirk for that matter. Sure, um, anybody

else we're forgetting. Tell you what, whenever a show to morrow, We're all right, you're right, let's not give away the Yeah wait wait, I'm gonna give away you guys are going in some great I'm just I'm just excited, ya, I'm just I love it. I love it, and I want to see what they do well that is, yeah, that will be. That's gonna be a rap for tonight. Then again, the Dallas Cowboys at nineteen overall. Take Layton Vanderish, the linebacker from Boise State. We'll have reports and analysis

up on Dallas Cowby nights. Just getting started. We're just getting started here. You're absolutely right. Tomorrow we will have a draft show, a special draft show at one o'clock, so we'll go from one to two. We'll kind of talk reset, reset, Thursday, we're gonna talk about maybe some trade possibilities, kind of just rehash some things. Maybe feel like that at some directions that maybe some of these teams can go and kind of figure some things out.

And then tomorrow night draft coverage starts again at six o'clock is when the draft opens. We'll be on the air at five thirty. Love it. We got a lot going on. So for my scouting buddies, Dane Burglar, for David Hellman, Brian Brows, Kick Garrison executive producer. I want to thank everybody too out there, a lot of folks working very hard for to put this on the air. We are pre shade everyone here at Dallas Cowboys. It works so hard for all the things. We will be

back tomorrow. We'll have a draft show at one o'clock and reset some things and then we'll be back at five thirty to start rounds two and three, so already have a good evening and we'll see you then