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2017 Draft Day LIVE - Rounds 2 & 3

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The Draft Show and 105.3 The Fan cover rounds 2 and 3 of the NFL Draft. 

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Welcome to Dallas Cowboys dot COM's live bumper to bumper coverage of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft with David Hellman, Dane Brugler, Cowboys coaches, draft picks, and special guests. Now your host, Brian Bryan Brucks. Well, we welcome you today two of the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We're very proud to be joined by our radio partners on

the Dallas Cowboys Network. There, our buddies from one oh five three the Fan, and so we're right on top of this thing as we get ready, the commissioner is about to open for the second round. I'll introduce everybody here again. Dane Brugler joining us here from CBS four, David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And now, like I said, our one oh five three partners, we've got Kevin kat Turner, a scouting buddy, and Jeff Kavanaugh as

well from one oh five three. So boys, yeah, you've you've got you've got the four guys together that have lived and died this day in a little bit longer than Jeff and Kat and I. But we just we determined that we were going to make the journey starting on December fifth. So boys welcome. As we get ready for the start of the second day of this draft, we will get into a little bit as we go along with We'll fall along with all the teams and what they're doing pick by pick, give you a little

analysis on that. And as we get close to the Cowboys pick again. This will be a pretty intensive a lot of draft conversations, a lot of back and forth. We're not going to sugarcoat anything for you here. We'll tell you how it is. So this we're getting ready to go on the clock here with the Packers. After the Packers come the Seahawks and Jacksonville Dane. How's this thing going to start? Or how do you see? Do you see the second round having the twist and turns

that we had yesterday in the first round. Well, the first of all, we have Green Bay at thirty three. Are they going to keep this pick or they move it? This is a power position. Teams went home last night, restacked the board, have a chance to maybe get a first round player a player that slipped over the first

thirty two that might still be on a first round board. Yeah, so we'll see what Green Bay does here if they want to move the pick, if they get a value, or if they stay put and take Dalvin Cook best player available, they could Jeffrey Well, I mean, Dalvin Cook's not the best player available. But other than that, you know, I agree with everything that Dane said. Joe Mixon is the best player available if you're willing to take Joe Mixing at least Jeff and Brian the perennial criminal drafters. No,

I'm not a criminal draft or bad character drafter. Be fair. You can apply that to either running back that was just mentioned at some point in their life. That's a very solid point. Convicted. That's that is a fair point. Has been convicted. Can I just I and Brian mentioned like, you know, is it gonna be crazy? Well, it's already crazy because we've been talking for three months. Specifically right here at the top of the second round is well

Cleveland and San Francisco. Maybe the Cowboys try to trade back to those spots. Well, Cleveland San Francisco don't have those picks anymore because of all this stuff that happened last night, So I completely expect the unpredictability to continue. I mean, why wouldn't it went nobody can agree on what these boards should be, and so why wouldn't teams be trying to move to get different guys? Well, and to me, the most fun part about today in this

specific draft, Oh we're already are we announcing? Yeah? It looks like yeah, we're just go ahead, go ahead with FLA. I think to me, you know, we come out of the gates. And the first two players mentioned are players that on town alone could be top ten, top fifteen picks in most years drafts, and because of different things associated with them, are still sitting here in round two

for a team that needs a running back. And not only that, I think you're gonna hear a lot of names tonight that in a lot of other drafts might be first round picks. This is it's a really unique draft in that Well, that's let's go. Uh, we've gone to the podium here in Philadelphia. Ron Jaworski is gonna kick this thing off for Uce for U two. To our wonderful hosts to Philadelphia, thank you for to watch the tape that he does like to watch that tape.

So we'll get a little announcement here from Rons the ones to bring the excitement, the electricity and this support. So thank you all of you. I was thinking, you guys, yeah, there you go, all right. I also wanted to thank somebody else that you know very well, because without him, we would not be here in Philadelphia, without his leadership and his love of this city and the vision that he had and making this a great thing for the NFL and for Philadelphia. You all know the great Eagle

legend jaws Ron Jeworski. Hey, thank you, Thank you Commissioner, and thank you Eagle fans, and thank you football fans so much. How cool is this? How cool is this? Eighty years ago the first NFL Draft was held in Philadelphia. No one would have ever thought it would be this last night, one hundred thousand people jaming the Parkway. Tonight,

over a hundred thousand people jamming the Parkway. This is a testament to the love and passion that you have as Eagle fans, and the passion you have for this city and the cities that you represent. All thirty two NFL teams now in defense of the Commissioner I know a little bit. I know a little bit about the Boo Berts, just a little bit. As an Eagle quarterback for ten years, I heard that every now and then. But I do know this in this city, if you do the right thing, if you do the right thing,

you win this city over. Commissioner, you eventually will win this city over. That's time to get this party stuff and have some fun in Philly tonight. It's on a party, it's a draft. Yeah, we're not here to have fun. We're here to pick some serious business. Okay, you guys sound like you're ready, So for tonight set the third rounds. You're heard. Tonight we're gonna be joined by several of the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award winners on each team, as well as some select legends. That

it should be a great night. So you guys ready to get started. The second round is now officially open and the Green Bay Packers are on the clock. Well, we're on. Jeworski will not remind you of my words from Thomas Payne yesterday. Here's an intro was way better. I thought so as well. But Ron Jews, can we appreciate your commission. We appreciate you opening it up. We were talking about the uh, you know, as we look at this draft, guys, there's there's a lot of quality

names on this board. Sure, we're talking. I mean, that's the one thing when I sat down last night, and that's something we and we're taking a peak right now into the war room with the Green Bay Packers, with Elliott Wolf Thompson, those guys sitting and sitting in there and getting ready for this pick. Elliot Wolf was working the phones for green Bay. Green Bay hearing that they

were either gonna make this pick. Of course we've kind of projected a couple of guys, but i'd also heard some pretty strong words that they were trying to move this big for sales sign on. Yeah, Teddy, Teddy Thompson. Teddy's thinking more about the depth of this draft in the middle. That's something that I think, Kevin, that we've gone through throughout this process is the depth of the draft, not only at the court, the cornerbacks, defensive line position, safety,

but really throughout the board. Maybe not so much as the offensive tackle, but a lot of depth in this board. Oh exactly. Oh, there's a lot of our position. We we've kind of connected the Packers to running back. The running back is another position of a lot of depth. And we only saw what two names go off last night for Nette McCaffrey, So it's still a lot of names there for you running back, not many offensive lineman Gil last night. There's still a deep tight end class.

So we've talked a lot, you know, especially regarding the Cowboys, about cornerback and safety in those positions. But man, on the offensive side of things, there's a ton of depth at a couple of nice positions right there, running back, tight end, in offensive line. Dave Hellman with the depth in this draft with Kevin Turner, was talking about any reason do you have a number of names under board here the Cowboys to go up to get one of

these guys? Are you talking about the Cowboys? Cowboys? Yeah, I mean we're talking about the gal I mean, I mean maybe in an hour and a half, if we're in the fifties, maybe, But and this is what we talked about all during the lead up to this is don't we want to come out of tonight with two starters? You'd like to think you could, and is that going

to happen? It's certainly not going to happen if you're trying to trade trade up to here, unless you're getting rid of first round picks next year, which I hate even more. I you know, maybe if if a guy you really like, like a Kevin King inexplicably starts falling into the fifties, maybe we can revisit it. But certainly up until fifty. I'm standing pat and seeing what happens here. I don't like that one bit. They do you agree with that? You you're gonna sit there and just are you?

Are you looking at moving something if he gets close to the that pick fifty potentially to give up your fourth to maybe move up, but my third's off limits. Yeah, I mean potentially even you trade back from sixty if there you know, if that's if you get white did that or mock drags we went back to Cleveland. It's sixty five. I think, Uh, I don't know. I think that picks was trade was that was not was not part of the Green Bay No, it wasn't swap. Yeah,

they still hold sixty five. That's a fifth round and they still have one forty five, which is what they gave us in that trade. Yeah, right, so you can get your fifth back that way. But no, I'm I am coming out of tonight with two starters at the very minimum. Jeff, which what are you thinking about going? If you are you gonna pull the corner safety or safety corner. I think there's a slight chance it could change, but I don't see it happening. I think it's gonna

be corner. Safety would be the order now for me personally, I think there may be names that if they made it there to sixty at safety, I couldn't flip the order. Marcus May would be my name or safety to Florida Safety because I think I think he's a strong safety. Plus. You know, we talk about a guy that's going to your job is to tackle basically as a strong safety, and if you wanted to get that guy, you could

probably find that guy in the fourth round. But if you're looking at a guy that's better than that, that does more than that, I think Marcus May is a guy that could change my mind on what to do at sixty. Maybe for a lot of people Obi Melofon who could be that guy. But I think right now, as you look at the board and you look at the Cowboys visit list, and you look at who might be available. You just watch this thing play out and

get ready to pick your corner. We heard Stephen Jones after the Taco Charlton pick at the press conference last night. He wasn't shy about it. He said, at sixty, there's gonna be a cornerback there. There's gonna be a cornerback there. There's gonna be a cornerback there. And I think he's right. I think we have a list of names and we're ready to watch how this thing plays out and see who's there. Dan, you think that's the shape of the board.

You think the corners, that's where the direction there. They'll get some help. There's no question they're going to come away with defensive backs plural tonight. I feel pretty good about that. I think there's I looked at it this morning. I think there's roughly eight defensive backs that were thirty visits to this building. That makes sense at sixty, Yeah, twenty two names totally didn't you, Dave, Twenty two of the thirty are still available. But you know some of

those guys are the Teddrick Thompson's of the world. And you know Dave Trest and Dave who like guys that you're not going to take tonight. But there's at least eight dbs that you could take tonight that are still available. But we're looking at the packer war room. They're on the clock. We're right at a minute fifty five with the thirty third pick that'll start the second round. Here Ted Thompson has left the room for the packers. I'd know that feeling before. And it picks about to kill

I'm getting out of here? Is it not really? Whether? I mean, okay, you don't I know, you like mixing more than cook. But let's say they like cook. Like, maybe you just don't overthink this and add a guy, I mean a guy that a lot of people thought was the top fifteen pick to what is already a pretty good offense. Maybe not have time Montgomery be your feature back I formed, Jeff. Maybe just don't overthink this too much. Oh, I mean, I think they overthought it

in the first round. If I were the Green Bay Packers, I would have already picked Joe Mixon. If you're if you're comfortable with the player and you're willing to have him on the board, I would already picked him. It looks like they got Dom Capers in the room. Teddy Thompson just Dom Capers came into the room and yeah, he's the defensive coordinator for the Packers. Teddy said something to him. Handshakes all around. Yeah, they've obviously got to play.

We've talked about Kevin King, Dane Thumbnail and Kevin King. If in fact he is the pick, I'll drink of water. He's very very lean and that shows at times and run support, but he's fast. He blew up the combine with his athletic testing. Y'all can play, press, can playoff, can do a little bit of everything. He needs some work there, there's no question about it. But he saw it reported. He's the only player who's actually in the

green room still. Ye who attended the draft. There were some others Deshauan Kaiser, Woozier who decided to bolt out of there after last night. He's the only one that stuck around and looks like he doesn't have to stick around much long. No, the pick is in for the Packers, Jeff, If it is Kevin King, would that have been? You're a Tankersley fan, right, I mean you Tankersley more than King. I am Tankersley. Tabor Moreau all three of those for me personally or ahead of Kevin King. I think Kevin

King the workout was so big for him. You talk about that combine when you have a sixty three guy that can prove to teams that he moves that way and that he's that athletic. You know, this high in the draft, A lot of guys want a really high ceiling, and for Kevin King, I think you have that. Other guys didn't put together the workout he did, even if to some people like myself, they had better tape than he did. Kat. I mean we thought Kevin King would

go pretty quickly. Yeah, if in fact is yeah, he was out of the packing that Kevin King is gonna be this pick. He was out of the pipe dream of lasting until sixty Um. But you know this is he could have gone last night. No one would have been surprised that Kevin King great athleticism. When he getting murdered like the Packers did in the playoffs to Atlanta in the NFC Championship game, you kind of do realize, yeah, maybe we need to address defense. So it would make

a lot of sense to go that route. In the secondary Boss Sam Shields, they have plenty of bodies there, but it's how many are hurt Randall and Quentin Rollins. They're not reliable guys yet, right, there's no consistency there, Gunter and House. You know, there's plenty of capable bodies, but there's no consistency. And so if you have a chance to add a player like Kevin King, if that's who that is, let's go to the podium. See if

that's who it is. Absolutely, let's roll the podium. As you can see, I'm joined here by Hall of Famer Jim Taylor Ollo shoe along, is he not? Absolutely? Twenty seventeen NFL Draft the Green Baby Kevin King, Kevin King. Here we go. All right, we've kind of got the thumbnail on Kevin King, and this is gonna be one of those picks. I think Cowboy fans are gonna look at down the road when they had the opportunity draft

to Kevin King, they did not do that. We you know, we're now sitting there thinking about the Cowboys, looking at safety, looking at corner. They're coming after our guys the first pick of the night. They're coming after our guys, after our corners. They're they're just flying off the board. What is going on? I mean and that people started asking me as soon as I woke up this morning, like do you trade up to get Kevin King? What if

he falls? He's not gonna fall. I mean, maybe he wouldn't have been the first pick, but like this dude was going before for no doubt. Guarantee you they showed the highlight from the Arizona State game and that interception that he's gonna make the one handed picks, the ball skills that he shows, and you know he played safety earlier in his career, kind of trying to find a spot for him in that secondary just to get him

on the field. And then this past year with Sidney Jones on one side of the field, they threw at Kevin Keane quite a bit and he answered, uh that challenge and played himself into into this thirty third pick right here. Okay, yeah, Dan, Yeah, we got a trade going. Jacksonville is gonna make a move up one spot, one spot, Jacksonville. Let's let's see if they got to be offensive line. Yeah, let's see if Jacksonville is gonna give what the what the Bears did yesterday and moved one spot. I don't

I don't see them doing that. John Schneider forever Man. Yeah, John Snyder is adding some picks here, my old intern at green Bay. But yeah, it looks like now that Jacksonville is on the clock at pick two thirty four, let's talk about Jacksonville's neat yesterday, they take a quarterback and run Bordles out of town. I'm ready for that. Let's get a quarterback. Should have done that last night. Yeah, yeah, you're you're you're preaching the wrong guy here. I think, Jeff,

what do you mean? I mean no, I mean, hey, you know, I'm all about like Peterman. Yeah, what do you want? Yeah, yeah, I do. Actually a matter of fact, I like Peterman here. Let's like, okay, last night, if we look at with Jacksonville, they did add Leonard Fournette. We still feel like though offensive tackle, Dane, You've talked about that tight end, quarterback, defensive line, and guard. So there are two offensive linemen here that would make a

lot of sense with Forrest lamp or Cam Robinson. Right, and so you got you're trying to help your your quarterback. Blake Boris has not lived up to that third pick you gave him. The stud runner in the first give an offensive lineman here, and you know, I think it's interesting that the Jaguars went with a running back at four and here in the second round they could have had Joe Mixon or Dalvin Cook. Now what's that? What

kind of value is yeah? Four? Now, well in this room, we would say they took a worse running back thirty picks right exactly, and so with something that we'll have to watch moving forward how that plays out for him. But I don't know, I mean anyone else, I think his offensive line any other thoughts. Well, if you look at the board, Katie, you got anybody else there? You think?

I like what Dane's talking about there. Again, team needs that we've mentioned here, tackle, tight end, quarterback, defensive line of guard to the positions that we've talked about, tackle and hard So you know any of those guards, Dion Dawkins, Phoene, Forrest lamp Um and then a Cam Robinson and you know a tackle. These are all the guys take a lot of sense on our board. On our board, we had we had a Dawkins, Phoenie and lamp As the guard.

That that's us. Now, Jacksonville could surely have it completely different than than us. But at the people have lamp. I think on that lamp and that's Dane. I mean, you're you're, you're, you're taking Here's what Jacksonville gave up round. They gave a six round pick, which would be picking what eighty seven? That's what's Anthony brown Helman. That is what actually Anthony Browns won eighty nine. I'm saying, that's that's where you pick him. That is what a one

spot jump is supposed to look like. Chicago, That's what you're support. That's why you're supposed to pay them. There's somebody in a there's somebody in a room right now in Chicago that's throwing up in their mouth. They should. They're the dummies of the draft. Look, if Trubisky hits, it doesn't matter. That's fair and so time will tell him that. Look, we talked about there were three offensive tackles we thought we'd go in the first round. Uh,

I'll just Forest lamb by guard for now. Two of those offensive tackles went in the first with Ramcheck and Bowls. One of them left and if you don't get your tackle here, maybe Taylor Molten later in the drive, later in this round, or they're just so few tackle options to go, So if you see a tackle that you think could be a start, you gotta jump up and get him. And I think that's what Jacksonville is doing,

especially in this especially in this tackle class. Yeah, that's even Cam Robinson maybe isn't a sure thing as a starting offensive tackle that's going to succeed in this league. But once you get past him, you said it, Moten and then there may be guys you like later on

to have a chance. But in terms of the guys that you think could possibly step in and start, it was a three man race in this draft, and twenty four hours ago you decided that a running back is going to be the engine of your football team, so you might as well do what you can to get a guy you feel good about the block for him. And Robinson can play. He's only is a left tackle only at Alabama started every single game in the last three years. But when you project him to the NFL,

I think you could see him playing guard. That might actually help him keep him off the ground with some of those balance issues that he has. But I think you think tackles really out of the question with him, though not out of the question. No, but when you look at Jacksonville and their their death chart, you know, I mean Brandon Albert, Yeah, I mean they don't need a tackle right away. I mean Albert could play left

guard and then maybe kick the tackle if needed. So I do think there is some position flex with a player like this. He could play either or tackle guard. Jeff, who would you like better? Would would you? I mean we if it came down to one of those guards or one of the tackles, which one which direction you're

going to? I mean clearly you have, like you say, Dawkins Phoenie on your board, Dawkins Phoenie lamp or you know any anyway, but or Robinson, Yeah, I think for me, when you're looking at it, I think there's always a positional value aspect to the draft where the Cowboys took Zach Martin to play guard at sixteenth overall, and good for them because they nailed it and they have one

of the best guards in football. But just in general, if you're looking for what is harder to phil, I think I might take a swing on an offensive tackle. If you're looking for somebody that you feel better that he can step in and start, then I think any one of those names of lamp Feenie Dawkins can do it, but when you're talking about the harder job to do, it would be Cam Robinson. That makes you wonder if Seattle didn't care from what Jacksonville did, because they were like, hey,

I like all these linemen. Let's go up there. The commissioners at the podium from the University of Southern California offensive tackle Tony Vasselli fitting dully good pick hitting guy to announced the pick if it is a tackle. We're the thirty fourth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Cam Robinson tackle. There you go, Cam Robinson tackle. We talked about him, you know, Dane Thumbnail ballance issues play and tackle definitely has the balance issues.

He winds up on the ground, waits too often. But for a player that's six six and three and twenty pounds, the movement skills are really impressive for a player that's so he can move well, he's strong, but again he does lunch, he does over extend himself and that ends up he winds up on the ground because of that, and that's the biggest issue for me with Cam Robinson. So if he can fix that then then great. But again,

three year starter for Alabama. You know he was a big part of their success the last three years, and you know it's going to a situation where again I think he could see the field early if he moves to guard. But we'll have to see how Jacksonville plans they use him. All right, well, let's uh now turns into Seattle is on the clock. We're gonna take a

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four five three thousand. Well. This is continuing coverage of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft on Dallas Cowboys dot com and one oh five three the Fan. We're back here the SWBC Mortgage Studios, Day two of the NFL Draft. The Seattle Seahawks are on the clock and we're seeing right now that their pick is currently in Uh Seahawks, uh Dane. We talk about the Seahawks team need to get a little bit real quick. We have a trade. Oh,

we have a trade. The Cardinals came up got the Bears pick, so Bears trying to get back some of those picks they traded away. Okay, so that's already get a quarterback, right it? Probably probably with this might be Arizona sitting at thirteen in the first round, thought, yeah, we feel pretty good when these quarterbacks would be at Trebiss, Watson, Mahomes. Nope, all three going to top twelve. Well they're not gonna wait around in the second round to get there, No

they're not. Arizona was at forty five in this round. Uh, they send this pick to the Chicago Bears. Well, we'll get the trade particulars for you though, real quick though, Seattle, here we go. Let's go the podium picks in inam University DEEPENSI ben Jacob Green. What pick in the two thou seventeen NFL Draft the Seattle Seahawks. Mclee McDowell defensive tackle.

Kevin Turner's guy up five talent in this class. If he had Solomon Thomas, his leadership, intangibles, maturity effort, we'd be he'd be off the board in the top you know, five to seven picks. That is so Seattle right there to go get a really good player. At a great value treading back coming three to four times, and to also at the same time just completely ignore your offensive line. That's about to say, like to play Devil's advocate. I'm

very jealous. All right. You got Michael Bennett, you got Frank Clark, you got Cliff Avril. Now you got Malik McDowell. Like, I'm very jealous of what you have there. But Russell Wilson has got to just be confused making a lot of money. We think Tom Cable's doing right now, Yeah, he's out taking a wall, don't like, don't you think Russell Wilson wonders why Pete Carroll doesn't care about his

safety or John Schneider for that matter. Maybe they maybe they tell him, hey, you just run around anyway, pull something out of your butt like you always do. Mcdell's six six, play some tackle, maybe somebody's arms. But Molikue MacDell, you're right, very talented player. Uh we'll see how you know, if if they're able to get something out of him. I mean, he is a it's incredible to watch him play. There's it looks some great tape. There's some absolutely great

tape of him. Okay, here's what the overall Holy smokes, this is all right. So Bears recouped a little Yeah, Bears recoup a little bit, they got, yeah, recovering they get they get a fourth round pickback at one nineteen. They get a sixth round pick, which is one ninety seven, and then they get a fourth round pick in two thousand and eighteen, moving back ninth spot. Yeah, from moving

back ninth spots. So Arizona gives a picks one nineteen and one ninety seven, and the next year's four their picks in We think this is four quarterback, don't we Guys. You don't give up that much unless it is right. The lesson I'm learning here is if you want a quarterback and you're I mean, you're gonna pay up the butt. Basically, you have to know what you're gonna pay a lot. You're gonna pay a lot. Well, you're gonna pay a lot. Are we sure this is a quarterback though? Yes? Right?

Why would you list for anything else? It's like the best available here? Check your board Alman Cook forrest lamp. Yeah, the top Arizona. We said, we said, we said, uh, quarterback, quarterback, wid strong safety to a need. They who's they losing the secondary you were were talking about Jefferson, Jefferson to Baltimore. Yeah, we can't rule out of safety here. Marcus May, Buddha,

Baker make a lot of sense. I would just be Yeah, it's a steep price to pay for any somebody that's not calling plays in my opinion, Well that's you know, I agree with you, Dave about the part going up for a quarterback. Yeah, and what they parted with, but you know, there's I'll tell you what you know. And kind though I think he's a really good general manager. I really really like Steve, but he's he and we we talked about it with their team last night. What's

the one thing? This team has a lot of speed, a lot of hitters. It's funny, that's a team you talk about ignore their offense. That's a team that likes to take defensive players too. So if they do go that route, if you were going to pick a secondary guy, would Arizona be the team that is willing to actually pick the best player and not, you know, not be afraid of the fact that he's not six foot and two hundred and fifteen pounds or Baker. This is the

team that has the honey badger. But that's that's the point right there. If there's a honey Badger in this draft, it's Buddha Baker. Oh that's exactly They've They've got the mold for that. Okay. But the best position on the fuel in my opinion for Buddha Baker is nickel. I mean that's kind of he's not a true free safety. He's not a true corner. He's that nickel. Is that

kind of what versatility Tyron Matthew does? I mean it was see, I mean it can Tyron Matthew be the every down free safety and then Buddha's your your nickel? A great point. They even care do They just they just mix and match and go give us all the honey Badgers. They took Dion Buchan and they took a Reddick like their old deal is, let's mix and match. Well, they got guys who get running, hit. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Cardinals don't like you say, four three

three four four two like, they don't do that. They don't care like they just have guys. They just have players. If you know your scheme and you know what fits, and you know what you want to do then you can do stuff like that. So who's your best quarterback? Who's if Kaiser's kais are easy? Still best? Close? Yeah for me? Minus night By the ways, Peterman, Katie, you're Peterman right now? It's Kaiser. I like Kaiser just a

little bit more than Peterman. But guys that throw the ball to me, the drop off after Watson went last night is real steep. And I know Peterman too, but I mean, I I mean, Kaiser just bothers me too. And Dane keeps telling me you got to watch two thousand and fifteen tape for what. Look when he had t tell me what he did when he was supposed to carry the team, supposed to carry the team. I mean he Dak was out there getting his team to

number one Dame. Yeah, back is the standard. Look Kaiser, amazing that this one year later he does as a quarterback. He just doesn't do it any consistency. And it's tough. There's so many variables with that situation, with the head coach to this or the supporting cast. And Kaiser made plenty of mistakes himself, no question about that. Who's I mean, who's the next quarterback off the board? Well, that's what

I think it's Kaiser. I think it'll be Kaiser will be the next I know, I know we have Peterman raided higher I I do, I mean I have Peterman higher than Peterman's next quarterback. Yeah, he was wide next quarter Well, let's say the commission's gonna tell us we've we've said quarterback and we've said safety. Let's see which one the commissioner will tell us. Who hold us to announce see Arizona Cardinal selection. Please welcome from Southern Illinois University.

Quarterback Jim harden hey Man was a legend. He used to beat my team up a lot. I don't know this guy brought us it's number seven team he's played for the same remembering with the thirty six thick. In the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Budda Baker. Give him all the honey Badgers. That team for being a team that's not afraid to pick the best player instead of looking at combines. And how tall a dude is Baschard Bachard Buddha Baker, Well, that's

another team. The Cowboys get to see them uh in the Hall of Fame game and and then the regular season. So okay, Budda Baker all five five nine and change five nine Lcobs six foot, I am a gigantic five six foot Yeah, he's exactly three Cohens. I love this guy, but I really do. I I would have loved for him to be a cowboy. He's awesome, He's got a nose for the ball, he does every like. It's just fun watching him play. Having said all of that, why is that, like, why did they give up so much

for this? Is it worth it? They already have Tyron Matthew, they have Deon Buchanan. Well, you know Dame was talking about Jefferson swearings you're gone and bethea Branch replaceable guys. I mean, you know you're talking about give as many, give as many playmakers on the field as you can. You're gonna call me a coward, Brian, and that's fine, But I just hate the idea of trading up for any Like quarterbacks and pass rushers are the things the

guys that I'll trade up to get. Hey, if you've gone through your whole life at that height and you don't feel for Buddha Baker, I do. That's I think that's probably part of why I like him. I appreciate you pointing that out. Another trade act. Well yeah, I mean, well, I don't think I've grown since junior high. So you guys like, okay, Buffalo, Wait, we gotta okay. It looks like suppose this is gonna be the Los Angeles Rams pick. And I'm looking at the screen right now. It says

Buffalo is on the clock. So we got another trade here. Buffalo is on the clock. It pick two thirty seven picks in there. Let's talk about Buffalo. They added uh White, Travis White last night quarters so wide receiver, outside linebacker, quarterback, and four three defensive linemen. You know they a quarterback and they trade it up right right, Dave, they're traded up. No, Dane, you almost baited me into that almost. I just don't like Tyrod. They're gonna pick a guy that's worse than

Tyrod Taylor. Not only do I love Tyrod Taylor, but I love the guy behind him, King Cardale Jones. Ever, yeah, he'll never never make it. This this has to be wider. I'm looking at my second round wide receivers and I'm Gil and Godwin Hanson for Zay Jones. Those are my guys. I kind of got in the in the next there and here we go. I mean, he's real quick. Day they got the they're now picking the Rams will pick at I missed that there. They'll pick it at four

four and ninety one. They're picking right in front of the Cowboys. Had a feeling about this. The Bills just traded away the pick the Chiefs gave them last night. Okay, so I had a feeling about this, uh way back when the Bills who they hire as their wide receiver coach, Well, the commissioner's gonna come to the pack. But yeah, if you get warmer in East Carolina wide receiver coach, oh,

Zay Jones. All right, So Dave Bruler's going out on the limb here and he's gonna say wide receiver of please welcome from Oklahoma State University two thousand and seven Hall of Fame inductee running back Thurman Thomas, thank you. Put the thirty seventh pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select wide receiver Zay Jones. Here you go, Dan Briggler, Like I said, they brought Carolina's wide receiver coach the no one hired a guy

just to pick their player. Well, they did it back, they did it back in January, so you know it's, uh, it's a great fit. And look, Zay Jones. You watch him on film and all the targets go to him. But there's one hundred and fifty eight catches, yeah, fs record all time, but there's no there's not a lot of home run plays, and so you know you kind of worried about that. But then he goes to the Senior Bowl, goes to the Combine and he lights out. So it's you know, who would have thought a couple

months ago Zay Jones would be what the fourth receiver drafted? Right, Yeah, that's one. We kind of knew who the top three we're gonna be. But then after that, I felt like it was kind of like a lot of positions here in this draft. It kind of became a flavor thing. My guys. Carlos Henderson, you got Godwin at Penn State, you're a big handsome guy at cal Juju Smith Schuster.

There's so many names out there, but Zay Jones. Yeah, I mean one hundred and fifty eight catches now, every single one of them seemed like it was a go find a hole in his own or here's a screen, or only only four only four were over thirty five yards out of one hundred and fifty eight. Yeah, Los Angeles Chargers are now on the clock, and there picks in. This is a pick two thirty eight on rapid fire, and we go to commercials that people knowing exactly what

they want. This is the Brian brought us method. Right, Yeah, I like this. Just hand that card in, let's go, let's draft. What are you thinking about? We know who we're picking. Pick him. That's what my attitude exactly. Do you think that depth of the draft is part of that too, because we talk so much about how much talent there is between thirty and fitting sixty. I mean you got him in right, right, Yeah, you got it.

You got him in arts. By the way, if you notice on your screen there, let's welcome uh the Ford or the Scouts front office, the coaches from there in the Ford Center war room cam there. Uh they're sitting here watching the draft gets hold in front of them. Uh, look like that they're radio. That's interesting though. Day I didn't know day two that we ever wore ties. I just remember it might be today. This is a different day too than usual day. Yeah, this is this might

really mean business products. So let's let's let's let's hope. So somebody in this two Yeah once again, that's uh yeah, there's your there's your war room cam. It's up. We will will take a looks in there. Occasionally you can see reaction as picks go. Pay attention if you're with us. Last night, I kind of went through the lineup going left to right. You really can't see him on camera now maybe you can't, but on our TV we can't.

It's line of Vitell left corner, Jerry Junior right there, sitting next to Lionel of course, Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Shy Anderson Shibo as he's known that sitting right there, Jerry's grandson, Jerry's grandson, and then Charlotte Jones, Anderson and Will McClay. And next to Will McClay will be Chris Hall. So that is your war room participants.

You'll see people appear in and out of the war room, and sometimes you can kind of get an idea of what direction they might be going when they bring coaches in. So keep an eye on that one. I'll never forget. I'll never forget on Saturday last year, and a couple

of people brought this up to me. But right around when they picked Charles Tapper one on one and they picked dak at one thirty five and right in that range, Jason Garrett starts like pantomiming throwing motions, like he's talking to somebody about the way that a guy throws the ball. And I was like, oh, all right, well, this is where we're getting our quarterback. This is where you're getting Okay, where right now? A commercial break with the with the networks,

let's talk about out the the Los Angeles Chargers. Uh, looking at team needs last night they added Mike Williams, the very talented wide receiver from Clemson. If you look at their team needs, we're looking at cornerback, free safety, strong safety, tackle, guard, and defensive end. They've got to protect Philip Rivers. And they went wide receiver in first round. Yeah, um, you know my I'm looking at the guards there, Dawkins, Phoenie Forest lamp Uh. There's some names to kind of

keep in mind. I would imagine if they were to go offensive lines, they go offensive line, it has to be the best player on the board. That's gonna be Forest Lamps. Well, yeah, Forrest Lamb's the top twenty player in this draft. Yeah, I mean it, Cody. The same thing happened to Cody Whitehair last year. Yeah, and Cody Whitehair is gonna be go to a couple of Pro Bowls and Bears snatching them up in like darn good player. Yeah,

and Forest Lamp he last year to the second. If if that's the direction they go, then they're getting themselves an awesome player. If they don't, then there's a team pretty soon after that's going to get an awesome player. Well, then they were They're looking right now into Tlasco to Tom Telesco. The into the Chargers were really important year for Tom to LESCo. I think as a general manager, I like what they did with the with the Williams pick, you know, I think that's us. You know who else

does Philip Rivers? Yeah, Philip Rivers absolutely, And let's see if they Let's see if they in fact try and help Philip Rivers here. You know, you've guys who are talking about the guards a cornerback. I mean, there's plenty of cornerbacks. You know on that board. There's safeties on

that board as well. But you're Dan. I agree. I don't know how you could sit there and you know you got Philip Rivers and you're gonna have to make this journey to change quarterbacks to one day, much like with the Cowboys, why not get offensive linemen in place, start to build your offensive line so then when the transition happens, you're not playing with a bunch of rookie offensive lineman with a rookie quarterback picks in and the commissioner is making his way to the podium. Hey, guys,

it's me. Commissioner is Yeah, we go on Merriman, Sean Merriman and almost Calvoy. He's welcome from the University of Maryland linebacker Sean Merriman with in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Los Angeles Chargers got that right Forrest Lamp guard West Kentucky. There you go, Forest Lamp, good past, call Ice call right there, guys. It's yeah, that's a Dane. That's a first round value for you right there. Absolutely. I mean he's he's a four year starter at left tackle.

You can watch and you can say the level of competition in the Conference USA, or watch the Alabama tape. Yeah, go up against Tim Williams against Jonathan Allen, who and uh they both said this is the best player they faced. Yeah, in terms of blocking, So uh, he's probably not a tackle in the NFL shorter arms. It just has that square blocking skill set which matches up a lot with Zach Martin I've used. And that's Look, I understand that high praise. I mean, Zack Martin's at all pro, but

I think this guy can be similar. You plug him in. I think the Chargers probably use him as a right guard. He can win that job from day one and he's gonna be a long time starter for him. Okay, Well that puts the That's gonna put the New York Jets on the clock, and we'll come back and talk to the Jets that you're listening to the two thousand NFL Draft. It will continue in a moment on Dallas Cowboys dot

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as we navigate these draft waters. When we were gone on break the New York Jets, I said, we're on the clock. They made their pick, guys. They went Marcus May, the safety from Florida. So the New York Jets double up on safeties, which I know that. I know that's the guy Jeff loves, and safety's a position we're watching here. I'm stealing this point from Twitter, so don't give me too much credit. But what does that mean for Calvin Pryor in New York? I mean, the Jets just drafted

Jamal Adams and Marcus May. This hasn't been good. That wasn't a Mike mccagnen pick the general manager. Well, let me add does and people have suggested, I mean, trade rumors have surrounded that guy for a while now. Yeah, oh yeah, Well great for Calvin Pryor. Sure. I mean this is a guy that they weren't going to take up with him. They weren't going to pick u his fifth year option. I mean, he was already kind of on his way out, so this kind of confirms it.

But it's interesting because Marcus May and Jamal Adams. They're similar, and Jeff, you're talking about this how they're both kind of interchangeable in terms of free and strong. But I mean, I think they have more strong in them than free. You know, Yeah, I'm with you and that I think both of them can cover, but you don't really see either one as like a true center fielder. But I think you can kind of play games and do whatever

you want with both of them. But to that point, if you're the New York Jets and you're trying to build a football team and you need a lot of help, is it strange that you took two straight defensive players, and not only that neither one of them rushes the passer, neither one of them plays corner. You picked a couple of really good, strong safeties. I'd love to have both of them on my team, But you just spent a first in a second round pick on perhaps the least

valuable position on the football field. Keep well, I think, and I mean you can read all kinds of think pieces about this. I think I would argue, first of all, safety is becoming more and more valuable. I mean, you saw the money that Eric Berry just commanded. Well, and these two can cover, so I think that they're they're worthwhile safe. You see what a NEARL. Thomas does for a defense in Seattle. So on top, I think, especially in a passing league, there's value for good safety, especially two.

On top of that, if there's one thing that I can say nice about the New York Jets, it's that they have two really good defensive linemen in Mohammed Wilkerson and Leonard Williams. So yeah, I mean, they picked two of my favorite players. It's draft. I just think it's curious, it's an unusual, it's safety forward. It is I haven't seen that very often. But I like both of the players,

so I guess I don't hate it. I mean with you right like, there's discussion going on in the Cowboys the Ford Center war room for the Cowboys right now. Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, they're visiting there with Jason Garrett tight Quarters, you know, trying to maybe talk about exactly maybe going up. We'll see. I don't know Carolina going, but Carolina is now they have their picks in, So let's go the podium to announce see Carolina Panther selection.

Please welcome from the University of South Carolina guard Trevelle Wharton the fourtieth pick in the twenty seventeen In the NFL Draft, the Carolina Panthers elect Curtis Samuel wide receiver. But I love it. That's awesome. What do you mean you love it? That's back to back teams that have picked the same position twice in a row. The Arizona all the Honey Badgers, get Carolina, all of the well Swiss army knife. Let me tell you what they just did.

If you just heard what he said, Carolina introduced him as a wide receiver. Yeah, okay, they're wrong about that. Well, okay, well that's what I'm saying. If you look at Carolina's needs, we talked about that McCaffrey at running back, sure wide receiver, questionable depth after Benjamin and Funcius, this could be that guy. They introduced him as a wide receiver. That's what their thing about playing it. But an awesome draft where we saw back to back picks of teams kind of doubling

down on the same Panthers love to double down. I mean they tripled down on cornerback last year. Gettleman's not afraid to do that. I love this. I'd love Curtis Samuel, really funny player. He's good. The game of football boils down the one thing and matchups. And when you have to look at this offense and you add a Christian McCaffrey and h Curtis Samuel, guys that can do so many different things to stress a defense, you create matchup problems.

I'd run the wishbone. Well why not introduced the option introduced? I mean the different jet sweeps you can do with these guys, and you know, put McCaffrey in the slot and then Samuel in the backfielder vice versa. I mean the different combinations of alignments and coverages. Well, this pick has Natty was on the clock at forty one. They traded this pick to Minnesota. This has got to be a running back. Hey, Brian, what have you been saying

all freaking spring? Yeah, well I thought maybe now Minnesota did have pick. There's two running backs. Those two running backs, that's the question right there. Mike Zimmer troubled running backs. Mike Zimmer and Rick Spielman were at Dane Brugler and I were Norman for the Pro day. But there are two running backs on this board, and you know, obviously they felt like they could not wait. They could not wait at their pick at at forty eight. So here

we go the fourth round. They get one twenty eight, so the Bengals to drop. Minnesota goes seven spots up, give up pick one twenty eight, so that now belongs to the that's a team that never trades, by the way, Yeah, Cincinnati, how the heck did they get them to do that? And we thought both of them might be interested in the same couple of players, So clearly I guess maybe the episode does not or they think that they could get one of the two running backs at forty eight still,

or maybe it's not a running back. Yeah, I just with what needs to be. Yeah, it needs to be the picks in again, I have a first round pick. No, they know this is their first pick. Yeah, this is the first pick of the draft. So here's pick number forty one in the second round. I think it's a running back because I was thinking, oh my gosh, they were gonna get one of forty eight. Let's please welcome from Texas A m University Kingsville twenty ten Hall of

Fame inductee defensive tackle John Randall. Funny guy, thank you with the recorded first pick in at twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings Selact Dalvin Cook. Love didn't wait, Love, it couldn't wait for David Cook. Yeah, we thought Mixon would be in play for this team. But there a better player with less bagsh you think. You think the fact that they got the injury the player, but the but the injury history there you've you've. Yeah, it's pretty added.

It about the shoulders, it's it's it's part of the reason he's still here. Yeah. You know in the Vikings again, they this is their first pick of the draft. Welcome to the drafts, Minnesota Vikings. You just got yourselves a durn good player, the all time leading rusher in Florida state history. Just fun to watch. I mean he is really fun. I think when the balls in his hands, he's the best ball carrier in this draft. Okay, I really do. But fumbling issues, pass protection issues, character issues,

durability issues. That's why he's still here at forty one. But if he can stay on the straight and narrow, delmin Cook's a during good player. You got a good trade about him. He's thinking, Oh, it's just the burst, the game changing speed that he has finished right the acceleration. Yeah, and he's tough, you know, I mean, for he's not as big as the rest of those guys, a sure five. But and also there's the way he catches the ball

in the backfield as well. I mean it's he's a he's a threat anytime he's on the field to take it to the house. And I know it to seem full as far, seems like Minnesota is a good place for him. Get him out of Florida, away from where all these you know, prior incidents have happened, and sure, you know, kind of get him in a good system up there in Minnesota and see what happens. That seemed like a real prime spot for mixing both both of

these teams. I was gonna bring that up too. And Okay, I know you want to take the better player, and I know Cook has his own red flags, but do you think Minnesota was like, hey, we didn't expect to have another option other than mixing. Maybe we go get the guy that's not gonna get us roasted by the NFL, or by the media or whatever you want to say. Yeah, they dealt out that, They dealt with that a little bit.

You know they went through all that with uh, yeah, maybe they don't want to go down the Adrian Peterson again, you think it's no, it's a fair think it would that I'm pulling out. I remember that the sponsors pulling out if you can get a guy that's not gonna draw that much attention. And it's a similar you know, talent level. Why not I thought, I really really thought that that. I thought Cook would be gone by now. I mean, you know what I'm saying. So that's why

I had mixed and penciled into these guys. And again, what the reconnaissance that Dane and I were able to do well? And look, just because that they were there, maybe they didn't receive that didn't get the answers they wanted. Yeah, let's look into at the Ford Center war room cam and Will McClay has moved over. Will usually sits to the left of Stephen Jones. He's now in the middle of this conversation. So you've got to You've got the primary,

the primary decision maker right there in the middle. And now you're you're talking about Jason Garrett doing his uh in the quarterback thing, quarterback thing going on here. You can Dack again, let's hope. I wonder if they're sitting there, gosh, could they be thinking about a quarterback at at ninety sixty? Excuse me, quarterback at sixty? T throw up? No, surely not. Or they're just talking about the reaction you saw Jason Garrett kind of give you no. He was probably just like, yeah,

the reaction, give me the reaction. After this, we'll go out in the yard and throw the picks around. Garret's like, watch, I'm gonna mess with these guys. Yeah, he's probably telling the story from last year. Went Home got in trouble for reporting on Garrett pantomiming the uh the motion. Well they're discussing now. Hey, the Saints, by the way, are on the clock right there there. Picks him. Go ahead, Kate, you good draft so far from the Saints Marshaun Lattimore

and then Ryan Ramchick last night. Right, they took a good advantage of their two picks that they had in the first round last night, and we'll see what they go with hearing that with their second pick here with the first pick in the second round, because they've got two thirds as well. So Saints have a have an opportunity to kind of make some Hey here, could they go quarterback? And my second round walk I I'm thinking Kaiser here, okay, so I think quarterbacks should be on

the board and Drew Brees. It can only play so long. And they also you know, they almost took Rubin Foster uh in the first before the forty nine or snatched the mob z that Cuningham still out m Yeah you know one a player that we all considered a possible first rounder. Yeah, let's and let me feed you their team needs here real quick. The picks in. But they drafted, we got ram Check, We talked about Lattimore that at dust one day. They got defensive in quarterback, strong safety,

outside linebacker, inside linebacker. So Stefan Anthony hasn't really panned out for them. Yeah, bust. Why didn't they listen to somebody who told him he couldn't play? Well, why don't people just let us pick the play? If only because you don't own a tie to wear in the draft rooms? I could get one, You could get me one. I could rent one. We could rent a tie. Wouldn't in my two clip ons allowed company in my two round mock drafts? Uh? Yeah, I haven't take quarterbacks. We don't

think it's gonna be a quarterback here. Probably not. Well, it picks in and they're walking through the podium, So let's go see what New Orleans Saints are doing. I think it's to announce the New Orleans Saints selection. Please welcome from Michigan State University, a two thousand and seventeen Hall of Fame inductee kicker Morton Anderson. Yes, hey, how we're doing guys with the forty second pick two draft. Then all of Saints select Marcus Williams. You go cowboys

term that you're a Cowboys. Fane hurts a little bit. That's kind of the end if we could do I guess thumbnail here, thumbnail on the player. That's kind of the end of the true free safeties that you really like in this draft? Didn't it in terms of the guys that could play that center field? And maybe I'm sure, Dane, maybe you have guys in Day three or even more today that can do it. But it seemed like in this draft you're likeaby Wood and then later I think

Woods has little bit of it. Yeah, I think a little bit of Yeah, we don't like Evans as much but Evans is that type of mold. Well until they take tackling out of football, right, but just talking about that type of place. You know, he's much better in coverage, that type of guy. But you know, they see what the Saints have done the last two years in the second round. Last year they went with Von Bell. That's that's they're strong. Yeah. Now they went with Marcus Williams.

That's their free kind of reworked that safety. Uh, he's building their teams from safety for well, hey, we just said what the Jets did to Calvin Pryor. What does that mean for Kenny Vacaro in New Orleans? Yeah, the handle year of his deal. Yeah, that that's that's that one has not worked out for them at all. No, I don't believe. And that puts the Philadelphia Eagles on the clock. Um. We always are concerned when here here

at dallascowy dot com with the Eagles. Eagles last night added Barnett the defensive end to their to their front seven. Eagles looking at cornerback, wide receiver, running back, and defensive tackle. I wonder if this if they took Joe Mixon here with it's about saying, what would you do right here, Jeff, I always I would not I would I would not like it as a person who likes for the Cowboys

to win football games. Yeah, I just I think right now we're to spot in the draft where guys are getting running backs that belong in the top fifteen based on talent. So if that were the pick, I would think they're getting outstanding value and they're doing a great job of team building, which I would hate to say about another team in the nfcas well. Once again we take a look into the Ford Center war room camp.

You know, Steve and Jones now moved over closer to Jerry, and it looks like that Jason Garrett, they're they're making their case. Wills moved back to his position, and they're trying to figure exactly what they need to do as they work their way down the board. Here we're at pick forty three. The Cowboys are sitting at pick sixty.

This conversation to me, has very much the should you go up at the feel to it, and it hard to just sit there and watch other teams take good players in front of venture that's got that's gotta make you, don't we get to have more picks yeah, well that's you know, and Jerry. And this is where Jerry Jones is really at his best because he does listen and you can see it right now on the cam. He is listening to both Jason Garrett, He's listening to Will McClay.

He said his piece. And now Stephen Jones is chimed in two minutes now on the clock for the Eagles to have to make their pick. But there is there is there. There's a big, big, big discussion going on right now. Shout out to my Shout out to my work dad. ESPN's Todd Archer, who points out that four of the ten guys who have gone off the board so far tonight were Cowboys visitors. So yeah, you've been

tracking that into talk. I mean you're talking about, you know, kind of waiting and seeing if you're gonna get picked clean. And it's not been a good start for Dallas in that regard. So the defensive backs, there's still plenty of them into the Cowboys getting the sixty and having a guy that they really like on the board. But I wonder, I just want to throw this out there to everybody.

I wonder when they took Taco Charlton we kind of viewed him as maybe a left defensive end type, right kind of did we did, But they're gonna start him

off right. But if you get to sixty and you had Derek Rivers or Tias Bowser on the board, do you consider a double dip at the defensive end spot or you you really if I only if I'm completely picked clean at defensive back, Like, I'll tell you what the what I wish because I'd had the guts to pick Tim Williams at sixty, you would, I would too, But I mean, I want to see a team run by Jeff the gross Daney you want? You want nothing to do with him? Nothing? Well, listen, thing Dane has

to be in every draft room. He's got to be because otherwise you're going to run wild and every problem. That's that's the discussion going on. I mean, once again, will mcclays moved back closer. They're trying to It looks like to me they're trying to convince Jason Garrett to do something here. They really really are. Okay, do you think Jerry, can we get those weed rules change right now? Picks in for uh for the Eagles? And are they

showing Sidney Jones. Ah, there it is showing Sidney Jones highlights. Looks like Will McClean has got the beast in his hand. They're trying to figure out who to draft. How awesome He's got Dane's guide right there. How awesome would that be, Stephen? Look what Dane say? Look at that. The Philadelphi Eagles, they were just showing highlights of Sidney Jones. They might be some tipping going on here, but they on television early for a red shirt guy. Well, Philadelphia pick forty three,

they were just showing highlights of Sydney Jones. And so we'll see what. In fact, the commissioner, every indication I've got to Sidney Jones is that he will not be able to play in twenty seventeen. He will be a player for twenty eighteen. That consideration for a team that needs that position, for it to be your first pick at the position seems like a really risky pick. And as a guy who's talking on Cowboys Radio right now, I support this pick because it's not gonna help him

this year. We talk about like Brian doing the like you do a real pin throw, like we did a real pen throw. When Marcus Williams went off the board. I'm faking my pen throw all day. Right now. If this is Sydney, well, here we go the commission. They're gonna walk this to the podium. And again, just for you folks who are out there, you know, not watching the television, they're showing highlights to Sydney Jones. So let's see what happens. Honoring some servicemen and women to announce

Philadelphia selection. We have several special guests, including Eagles legend Ron Jaworski. We are honored to have with us members of a gold Star family, Mickey and Chris Frisen, Mickey's husband and Chris's father. Army First Lieutenant Demetrius Frison was a Philadelphia native and a passionate Eagles fan. He's lost his life in combat in Afghanisan in twenty eleven. The family has been held by TAPS, the Tragedy Assistant Program for Survivors. Thank you, Mickey and Chris for being here

with us tonight and for your sacrifice. And as you all just said, thank you to all our service members here and abroad for your service. H Mickey, you and Chris have earned the honor of the announcing the Eagles forty third pick. Here in the second round, it's all Lord with the fifty third pick. And that's twenty seventeen NFL Draft. The Philadelphia Eagles select Sidney Jones. I mean, honestly,

there you go, Sidney Jones. They chipped that pick the television with the history of like, you know, second round gambles, and uh yeah, I'm actually okay seeing him slide off the board there. And also I never trust an achilles injury. Yeah ever, Okay, so who is going to be our mathematician in the room, because here's the bad man. Here's the thing that jumped into my brain. Oh, there are corners that you could sit and wait. The corners. Obviously,

the defensive backs are going right now. If you just saw a dB go off the board that people thought was a first rounder before he tore an achilles and he's gonna miss the full season, we think, yeah, how soon do you think you need to think about moving up? If you want a guy who's a corner that might have been a first round pick, that just might be a pup guy Fabian Moreau might miss six weeks. I mean, you're talking to me. Jones is gonna miss a season.

Do you start thinking about that at this point? If boy war Room five dbs are off the board already and we're like eleven picks into this thing. So let's think about the guys they brought in. They brought in Tabor, they brought in Moreau, they brought in Tankersley, they brought in Quincy Wilson, right, they brought in Woozier, they brought in Griffin. I mean there. I mean, they got plenty of names. They got plenty of names. But Brian, you're a big Moreau fan. I am. I still have him

in the first round. If it's your pick. Are you trying to starting to talk about to figure out a way here? Who do you guys like between Tabor and Moreau? I like Tabor, but I like them both. I got first round grades with both of them. Like Moreau. I like Tabor, but I could be talked out of this because I did this with Treadwell last year when the number said he was gonna bust, I stood by the guy and said, I trust the tape. With Taber, I'm the same way, but I could be talked out of it.

It's just tough for a corner Yeah, it's tough for a corner. So but well, the Rams are on the clock just to kind of get things tidy here. It is ain't gonna miss a season. And he just went to forty three. You's got to start thinking, isn't it still? Isn't it okay? But didn't we think Sydney Jones, Like Sydney Jones, was a stretch to even get to twenty eight if he was healthy, right, right, but even with not healthy, I thought it was a little bit of a stretch to get to ninety two. The forties, I

didn't say. I guess what I'm saying is like Sydney, It's it's not I mean, it's not quite Jayalen Smith, but he's that talented to where the fact that somebody took a chance on him so early doesn't really alarm me, because he is that talented. Yeah, so it's a good long term pick, assuming, but I honestly think it is to come back from. I'm relieved that he's gone because I don't want to have to deal with that as a somebody who covers the Cowboys. I've had enough of

the red shirt stuff. And even when he gets back, does Brian's gonna push that dude around, So don't worry about it. But I don't. I don't. I think it's a bad pick overall. But and I'm not surprised the team would want to spend that high of a pick on him because of the potential. So I still don't think it's time to panic. If I'm the Cowboys, it looks like to me they're gonna sit there. They I mean, they had their little pow wow and now they're back

to chilling out. Plan though that's a plan. Let's just hang in there and sit. No, we need sixty. It's a deep draft. We're gonna be fine. Here. We're having our war room discussions here. We're talking about what about anything? Has anything happened? Okay? I thought it was surprising that Arizona would jump up so high for a safety, but has anything? Has a name gone off the board that really surprises you know? So yeah, it didn't. He surprised me. Okay, Well, yeah,

that's fair. I'm not overly shocked by anything that has happened yet, so I'm comfortable sitting where I'm at. You know, these defensive acts, you're gonna start flying off the board. I mean, you knew that was gonna happen early, you'd go ahead and prepare for that. And which dbs that didn't visit do you think you would have an interest in because in my in my mind, I'm just thinking about Desmond King. Yeah, I think I think they're looking. Yeah,

I like Desmond. I've always kind of thought Desmond King was at sixty. Yeah. But if if you're telling me, I still got Tabor and I still got Moreau first round grades on the board for me, maybe not for them. I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna wait. Yeah, I'm waiting. I mean, I know in our room we're hoping that

Quincy Wilson is one of them. They visited every corner you can visit, and their board can be completely different than our board, which should probably is, you know, but they they've got a good medical handle on what Tabor excuse me, what Moreau is. And you know they they like we said, they visited tankerously, they visited Wilson, they brought all these guys in. I know, it's way it's way too soon. We're still sixteen or so picks away.

It's way too soon. But are y'all starting to think about a possibility where you know, they said the last night, we didn't want to wait and see what pass Rusher would be there at sixty. But are you starting to think that maybe a guy I mean, they brought in Basham, they brought in Rivers, Maybe one of those guys will be there. As long as it's not DeShawn hollyh Yeah. I think you can pick day Sean hall Light and Day three, I mean a solid pick. But Bowser the

fourth rone, Bowser, Rivers, Basher. I'm very surprised Bowser's still here. I want to think I wonder if they would go with Bowser here. I mean, I mean, I'm just saying, I mean what I mean, what if they went back to back in and that's that's kind of yes. Oh, if Bowser's there, I'm all for it. Yeah, take the I mean, Bowser's the best players. I mean, we've been preaching defensive backs, but you get a guy that's a legitimate right in Rusher. And we talk about the players

that are on this roster. You're at a point now where you know, there's a lot of players that I'm sure this coaching staff likes. But with Tapper, you've had some injuries. With DeMarcus Lawrence, you're talking back surgeries. With Tyrone Crawford, you're talking about where are we playing him right now? I think if you added multiple bodies that maybe they are going to push people off the roster. But the right guy is there? Sign me up? Do

you trust them to do that base? I mean we've kind of talked about, you know, they're not they haven't been shy about saying what they want. Do you trust them to deviate from that plan that they really want to get a dB here, Let's let's think about that. We'll come back with that. I want to try and get this break schedules consistent. Now, so you're listening to

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three thousand. This is continuing coverage of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft on Dallas Cowboys dot com and one oh five three The fan back here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios. Brian Broader, Stain Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin kat Turner and David Hellman. We're working through this draft with you. The announcement was just made. The Los Angeles Rams took Gerald Everett tied in from South Alabama, and that puts the Chicago Bears now on the clock and their picks in.

Let's picked two forty five. So Everett, the tight end from South Alabama goes to the Rams. That's their first pick in the draft. I really thought that they were going to take Juju Smith. Myself, well, we knew they needed to get someone to help Jared Goff. Someone helped the quarterback, and that's what they did there. And I think I've read this on my on my timeline. I first thought the king in my mind as well, who did Sean McVeagh have in Washington the quarterback tight end

combination had had Jordan Reid. Yeah, this can be that version of the field player. Yeah, exactly. Jordan Reid's a heck of a player, by the way, I mean, we all know that I'm not telling you. So anyway, Chicago, the next the next three picks will be Chicago, Indianapolis, and Baltimore. And so the Bears selections in as I said,

and Commissioner's walk into the podium. We have some special guests to make the announcement for the Bears, Chicago's Walter Payton, NFL Man of the Year, Sam at Joe, and former Bears center Jay Hilgenberg. Thank you. The NFL's continue to support the Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital helps ensure that all kids have a chance to place sixty. For the third year, NFL networks Run Rich Run campaign asked fans to submit videos of themselves running the combined forty yard

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Kate has benefited from doctors and staff at St. Jude and Kate, you are a true inspiration for all of us. Definitely, it's out standing, out standing, Okay, let's make the pick. Okay, right, With the forty fifth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Adam Shaheen tight end Ashland Oh Dan, just go ahead, Dane, everybody just step back, step back, go ahead, go ahead. He's gonna outplay this draft spot. How did he last this long? Come on? Go ahead, Dane?

Like all right, Dane, if you were in a war room, where would you have picked him? If you were, if you were a general manager, where would you if you were Well, I just don't know. I'm serious. The draft's all about value, Okay, right, I knew I could get him in the forties, so I mean I drafted him around this, around this range. But look, you drafted the young quarterback in the first right, Okay, you get the young tight end here. I mean, these guys are going

to grow together. This they got there Jason Witton in Chicago, you know, not just a safety valve, but can be a playmaker for that offense. That he could really grow into that type of role. I'm really excited to see Shaheen and Trubisky see how they can grow together in Chicago. Well, that's it. Adam Shaheen tied information really outstanding in line tied end too. Guys six seven, two seventy five pounds that run a four seven. It can block like you can.

I mean, it's just hard because on the Division two tape, you know we've said it accountants and lawyers. Well, I saw a lot of assistant managers at mall kiosk those two and those two exactly. So how do you how does that translate? I mean, how do you possibly evaluate the tape when and the intrigue here is usually when we have Division two players or small school guys, we have the Senior Bowl, we have the Shrine Game, we have the postseason All Star games to evaluate the small

school guys up against fps competition. Because Shaheen was a junior that came out early, we didn't have that with him, so just an extra variable. But that tells you how good this guy is. He goes top fifty as a junior and came out early from the Division two level. I love this pick for the Bears. So with that pick, yeah, Adam Sheheen, he is gonna go to the Chicago Bears. That pick two forty five that puts the Indianapolis Colts on the clock and it looks like their pick is

in at two forty six. Got Hooker last night at fifteen. Yeah, talk about Katie. You've got some of their needs right there in front of you. Yeah. Cornerback is the one that jumps off the table there. They could probably use a running back as well as well as someone on the edge. I thought that maybe you said the word cornerback. That kind of scares Cowboy fans a little bit here, doesn't it. I mean, the cornerbacks have been starting to fly off the board a little bit over the last

five picks. With Sidney Jones, we've had some safeties, I mean, defensive backs. Marcus Williams off, take a woozy or Quincy Why don't you take one that I don't really want to fall to me? Go ahead and do that. That'd be great. So you're saying stay away from your your tankers lead, I'm saying leave alone, tankers lead, leave alone, Moreau, leave alone, Tabor, leave my three guys alone, and go try to fix your secondary. That's what I'm saying. Fix

your secondary with guys that I don't think are right. Well, hey, other people do. There's people who wanted Quincy Wilson in the first round. There's yeah, there's people who told me that a Woozier was going in the first round, right, go get them, guys. Are you throwing shade on those people now, Jeffrey, I would. I don't throw shade. I like to have conversations with my friends. That's why I'm happy to be here with you guys mostly Hellman, but

you guys appreciate well, that's a yeah. The uh I'll talk about you know, Chris Ballard, though you gave him a lot of praise last night, he took that he took the right player. You got to steal the first round yah last night, and for the first pick ever as a general manager to get a guy like imagine the pressure on him. But he was ready for that. Oh yeah, you know he's been ready for this some war rooms and stuff like, he's been around. He's been

waiting for this spot for a long time. Uh, there's no doubt in my mind, Indy was prepared for this draft, led by mister Ballard. Eager to see what they do here because they need a lot on defense still. Uh, you know, they went went to safety last night. Still need help. A corner could use some helping the trenches, another pass rusher. Plenty of options they can go here. Bowles are still on the board. Top corners A Woozier and Tankrousley, Quincy Wilson, tabors still around. Plenty of options,

plenty of options here. Okay, so the order will be as we like, say, the pick for the Colts is in. They just on a break right now on TV. Works pretty good about that, Yeah, stretch it out out a little bit. Stretch it on out here. We got the Colts, Baltimore and Cincinnati. Let's talk about Cincinnati a little bit here. Boys. Oh, we can guarantee that pick, can't we? I think we have to. That's an easy on. Brian's been calling that pick since March. At least. This a Joe Mixon spot.

Yep ye, it's like low hanging fruit there. I mean you think you, I mean, after Jeremy Hill season that he just had, I think I didn't have to soon have to slander the ls you guys, the guy, the guy had a little good run there. It appears to be over and mixing, goes Tocinnati. It'll be the one pick in my second round mock that I actually get right. You went ahead and mocked that one didn't. Yeah, oh yeah, because it makes too much sense. They need a running back,

Jeremy Hill. We got Indy making up here podium. I'm sorry, we got time. They're just gonna yeah, they're gonna have a five minute speech before we get the pick. So with the six at twenty seventeen NFL Draft Coast Nation selicts Quincy Wilson, Jeff Florida. There we go, y'all. I really like what ballards do in they're in Indian apples. Y'all did not like this guy, and I would like

to know why. I just think, you know, sometimes I think you watch a guy and you've seen where some people have him ranked before you watch him, and so then when you write down what you think about a guy, you end up having a battle, which I tried not to this year. I tried not to battle. I tried not to dig in on guys and like, no, I don't like him, but I like you did with golf, Yeah yeah, because what happens then is you dig way

and when the guy can't put over your head. Yeah. So, and Quincy Wilson was one of those guys that I think a lot of people were really high on you look at a guy that's what six one two thirteen, and he didn't measure bad. But I think on tape, when you watch guys that can run routes, I don't think it was hard to separate from Quincy Wilson, especially on inside breaking routes. And I just I didn't feel great about him in man coverage. Dan, you think he's

a safety. I think he might be best as a safety, not that he can't play corner. I just think he might be best inside. And the key word, I think that Jeff uses separating separation. That's what you when you watch this film, you see it all the time. Especially I think the crisp route runners at the top of the route, they were able to create that separation, create that spacing. And he's always on his heels. He doesn't have a great feel for that spacing to close the route,

anticipate what's going to happen, the different patterns. And that's and he has the size of a safety six one and a half two eleven. You know he's a mid He was like a four or five six type of athlete. So yeah, I mean to me, Quincy Wilson might be a better safety than corner, but I think they drafted him as a corner. I found him to be a very sluggish player. Let's go the podium. We got the commissioner for the Ravens at two forty seven to announce

see Baltimore Ravens selection. Please welcome from the University of Maryland wide receiver Jermaine Lewis. With the forty seventh pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Tias Bowser. We lost one. There you go down, Yeah, Tias Bowser. Remember that little bit of time when Jermaine Lewis was good. Classic? That was a fun little stretch in the Classic. Baltimore too. Take a guy that Dallas likes. Yeah, no, that's Ozzie. Baltimore has been doing that for years. They

got him on Dez Bryant. That one year, Jerry Jones got him on Dez Bryant. Other than that, Ozzie's pretty much been in the back pocket. I'm as Cowboys and I'm not doubting Tias Bowser, but I'm gonna throw him in that category with Buddha Baker where I'm just like, probably a good player, probably wouldn't meet his potential in Dallas.

Good for him for avoiding that fate, but it might be one of the guys that we talked to Steven Jones today and he was talking about t J. Watt and he said, you know what we do, is we he said, we'd discount guys if it's guys that we're gonna ask him to do something we haven't seen. And so how would they value Taias Bowser, who you would be asking him here to put his hand on the ground and rush and you haven't really seen it on tape.

Throw TJ. Watt in there too. I would feel so bad for one of these guys if we drafted him to be a war daddy pass rusher. And I don't mean this in a bad I'm not trying to disrespect Kyle Wilbur, but he turns into Kyle Wilbur in the sense that he's a man without a home and he's okay at linebacker and okay at rushing the passer, but not amazing at any of it. And go play in at three to four and make some real plays. I

just think he's better off. We look at the Ford Stent of war Room, Cam Will McClay has moved to the back row, the back bench area. He looks like that he is working his foam. Here's the Cincinnati Bengals pick at two forty eight. We think this is Joe Mixon. I called this one a while this on January MS to make the pick. To announce the Cincinnati Bengal selection, please welcome from the University of Southern California nineteen ninety

eight Hall of Fame inductee offensive tackle Anthony Munos. Thank you Roger. With the forty eighth pick in the two seventeen NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Joe Mixon, running back Oklahoma. Joe Mixon, Do this brought us? That's too much sense. That's the best value pick so far in the draft. Malie Cooker at fifteen and Joe Mixon at number forty eight, the same Joe Mixon that was at number three on my big board. It's kind of ironic.

We thought Joe Mixon would go forty one or four eight d he won to Cincinnati, but he goes forty eight to Cincinnati. Yeah, ironic, but yeah, this is an organization that has I don't care and no problem take a problem character guy. They they they they they build their team, pretty jealous, coached the team. Hey, nobody bothers him. They got one guy and dot com. Yeah at one guy writing stories. One guy at one guy and that guy.

He gets a nice credential to the combine every year and gets to go wherever he wants because he's the one guy. Yeah. So well, here's the other thing about. Here's the other thing about. Here's the other thing about Joe Mixon and Dane or Brian. I'd be curious to hear your guys takes on it, because I feel like you talked to a lot of NFL people and you guys were at the pro day for Oklahoma. Everything I've heard is that the dude made a big mistake when

he was eighteen years old. That he's getting positive reports from a lot of people. So what do you hear about him? Is he a massive character risk or did he do something terrible when he was eighteen? They were walking around talking about the coaches. You can see the coaches were filtering through the room right at their at their indoor place talking you try anybody wanted to know

about Joe Mixon. They were talking about Joe Mixon and look, Joe's not Solomon Thomas or you know, he's not Say Jones, He's not Jamal Adams in terms of he's not that type of kid. You know, he's he did make a terrible mistake and he's not It's something that he's it's been a burden for him obviously that he put on himself.

But everything you do here from the coaches at Oklahoma is that he has done everything he needed to do inside the football facility outside the football facility, and I don't think the Oklahoma coaches would say that, tell that the scouts if it wasn't true. This is a player who knows he has a target on his back and so I would be surprised at this point if he found trouble again. But you just never know. And that's why he's we're talking about him as a forty eighth

pick and not the twentieth pick. Well, and because he's my guy, Can I go thumbnail real quick for anybody's not, absolutely go for it with Joe. And the reason I think he's the best running back in this draft is I think when you look at a guy like Dalvin Cook, who dangned that was your top running back right for me. Joe Mixon offers the same sort of things, where it's a guy that he can do any run that you want. He's fast enough, the vision, the patience, tough to bring down.

You can line him up in the slot and he'll run routes. He catches it easy. I think he has everything. Plus he has the exact frame that you would want from a starting NFL running back. What is about six one twenty five. I think he's almost a prototype. Dalvin Cook probably hit you more home runs, which is why his combine was so confusing to me, how he measured so unathletic. Dalvin Cook probably a bigger home run hitter,

but Joe Mixon sturdier, healthier. I love the patience. I love the ability to explode when he finally sees what he wants. As a receiver, he's not a receiving running back. He catches it like a receiver. If you're a team in the AFC North, you're throwing your pen down. You don't want to see this. And who the Bengals ad in the first round, John Ross Ross. So you went to that offense, you're gonna add John Ross and Joe Mixon. Who my counter to that though, would be what's your

offensive line? Look like? They have drafted a lot in the offensive line, and those there's a lot of unproven there. Say do we feel good about those? Though? I don't know how you could. Yeah, but they're just gonna say, Andy Dalton, you have two seconds, you have one point seven seconds that I trust Russell Wilson to make it work with a patchwork line way more than I trust Andy Dalton there, But I mean, yeah, and yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't know how you could argue against

the value. Obviously, you know, there's a whole other conversation to have about the off field stuff. But as we've been saying for three months, if there's one, if there's two organizations that could handle the heat, it's this one and Cincinnati, and this one doesn't need a running back. So that was kind of easy to call. And look at the Bengals, Jeremy Hill, Giovanni Bernard, they both averaged

under three point eight yards per carry. I mean they both had disappoint Jeremy Hilts as likely as last year. And Cincinnati Bernard, I think he has two more years left on his deal, So I just add another horse to the stable and that running back the chart. Let's go to the pody and now the Redskins are in it. Picked two forty nine Clinton Portis. I love Clinton Portis. He was to Washington Redskins selection. Please welcome from the

University of Miami running back Clinton Portis. Pick. With the forty ninth pick in the twenty seventh seen NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select Ryan Anderson, lying back in Alabama. They got Ryan Anderson double dip on Alabama players. Yeah, ideally not a not a I mean it's not a bad idea. Hey, just pick a bunch of Alabama guys, not a cowboy target. So at this point, I think when you're trying to get to sixty, you look at that pick and you say, okay, that'll work. Good perspective, Jeff,

that's what I want to hear. Keep moving. Pick guys that we don't care about, and he has certainly one not a bad player. You look at that Alabama defense, you know, some of the guys really jump out at you. You're Jonathan Allen's and you're Ruben Fosters and some of the guys are out there doing their jobs. But when they flash at you, It's like, Okay, you know in the NFL, what do you do, Dan? You stand him

up outside linebacker with Ryan Anderson. That's his best fit. Yeah, and I'm not sure he's a true three down player. But this dude, he's the most intense. Yeah. I have no problem saying he's the most intense player in this draft. All right, this dude, is you talking about having a killer instinct? Did you hear Tach McKinley on TV? Yes, I know, I know, I'm but I'm saying when you talk about having killer instinct, I worry like this guy means it, Like this dude wants to like kill people

out there. He'dezle Oh boy, oh you had to go there, didn't we. That's jump Kavanaugh one oh five three? Can we dump that on now? Okay, Now, I mean he is, like Ryan anders is, an intense player. I mean he's I mean, he was the kind of the orchestrator of that the incident with Deshaun Watson and the Uscaloosa restaurant. I mean, he just he is such a competitor. I want him in my locker room. I'm just not sure again,

is he a true three down players? An outside linebacker, probably a three to four, so he's going to I think a good fit where you know they're gonna use him right in that defense. But uh, surprise, they took him over maybe a Zach Cunningham or some of these other players. Yeah, that's my man, Zach cunning him. I kind of thought he would have been picked by now, but in fact, he is still on the board. Okay. Tampa Bay is walking to the podium with the selection.

It's the second round. It's the fifty selection. Please welcome from Purdue University. Oh, fullback Mike Golfstad. They're bringing out all of my heroes from the nineties. I love it. I ninety eight m Right. With the fiftieth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Justin Evans, defensive back Texas saying, oh, I got a chair from Jeff Cavanaugh. Yes, that's a fake pen drop right there. Okay, Yeah, so Justin Evans, man, you guys

can tell everybody about the potential. You know, it's an A and M kid, So I want him to have success. But I'm looking at the Buccaneers, who just signed JJ Wilcox away from the Cowboys kind of interesting. We watched Wilcox for his first few years really struggle with angles and tackling. Justin Evans is the worst tackler that I've ever seen in four years of study. He's the worst angle taker I've ever watched in four years of study.

If the running back or the receiver changes direction at all, Justin Evans is running by and running into somebody on the sideline. But that dude plays in one hundred miles an hour, and when he connects, he connects. Hey, te's you right? Yeah, yeah, he's exactly right. You just described JJ Wilcox. I didn't miss way more than Wilcox. I don't think he was going to go that early. I hope Justin Evans family is not listening to us, right, Yes,

says Dane always says, these kids have parents. I'm sorry, look at this Justin Evans listening, guys. A little bit of coverage ability, you know, team's really gone to get He's been a positive, he's really he's a punishing hitter. Might force some turnovers, force and FuMB so a lot of things to like out there, mister and missus Evans. I thought they did some good things. It does some good things. Their family. Their kid just got picked in

the top fifty. They're not listening to us. He's a very good athlete, he really is, and he will flash some plays. He's like the poor man's version of Blee Cooker. You know, he's has a lot more issues and run support um and I do not trust him as a tackler, and that's why I graded him so low on my board because I need a safety I can trust, and really I wouldn't would. I don't think anybody would be surprised if they try him at corner because I think he has the athleticism to do it, and you're not

gonna trust him and run some play. I thought you wanted that another A and M kid at corner, Speedy Noll, both of them. The good news is that was a Cowboy visitor and you can't have him at So that was awesome, great pick. Great pick with Justin Evans. We thought that might be a target for the Cowboys, even in the third round. But I thought he might go in the second. I didn't think you go top fifty.

It's pretty rich with some of these other players still still around, he can take this opportunity to re stack our board here, ye, let's do it. Yeah, go ahead, We're we're hey, this is perfect actually because we're ten picks out. Yeah, do ahead. And Dan, you gotta get an idea where you got top pick or top Jeff, you could do the one oh five three board or Kat what do you guys got that? Yep? My top

five right now is that Cunningham linebacker from Vanderbilt. Deshaun kais at the quarterback, Chad Hanson widers here from cal Carl Lawson pass rusher Auburn, and then Terrell Bash him the pass rusher from Ohio, and then right after that, Fabian Moreau the corner from UCLA. Okay, for the for the fanboard that which which was put together by myself brought uson, Jeff Cavanall, let me just knock out the first round grade real quick, Tim Williams, Carl Lawson, and

Zach Cunningham along with Tease Tabor and Fabian Moreau. Okay, so we're looking at those cornerbacks for sure. I think that with Tabor and then and then Monroe, and then I got another second round corner on the board Cordray Tankersley, and I've got Dez King at safety. Yeah, from Iowa. So you know, I think we need to sit. I mean the same things. I was actually I was actually about to criticize the Cowboys and say, hey, you said there wouldn't be a pass rusher, but there would be

a corner. But your dbs are dropping like flies and your pass rushers aren't. But between what y'all just read me, that's about at least six names that I like. Well, yeah, I also I do have this, uh, I have this recurring dream where the Cowboys forget how much they care about arm length and how tall a guy is at defensive end, and they just sneak up to the podium there and they say, hey, we're taking Carl Lawson's accurring dream of mine. I don't they're sticklers for that stuff, though.

I don't think they don't think they feel right now though, how do you think they feel right now? If, in fact, though that Basham and rivers get to them, That's what I'm saying. They could. I mean, they sold us all, and they sold us last night that this that that wouldn't happen. I mean, here's the tough part, though, is that both visited. Tough part is that you can't do that. No, And you're right, right, you're right. I agree, don't know

that hindsight's twenty twenty. I agree with that, but this you did not like the taco I didn't like to pick. But I can't kill them because of who ends up being at sixty because they had no idea. But don't you know like they drafted that way a little bit last night? No? There, Well, they drafted because they thought a corner would be there. And they're right the corn they're gonna have a corner they will have. They're gonna have a safety too, I believe, Yeah, I mean if

it depending on what you think. They're gonna have Melofo woo on the boards. They're gonna have woods on the board. They're gonna have Jones on the board. You know, they're gonna have Desmond King as a possibility as a safety? Am I right about that? Right? They got second round? They got second round. They got two first round potential corners and a two second round cornerbacks, right or wrong? Quick? Yes or no? More tankers? Lee Tabor, y'all take one

of those quick before you keep that thought. Yea, Broncos are going about to make the pick. Here at two fifty one to announce thee Denver Broncos selection. Please welcome from Syracuse University two thousand and ten Hall of Fame inductee running back Floyd Little. I don't know this guy, Ronis he was good. We're the fifty first pick in the two thousand Summit Team NFL Draft. The Denver Broncos select Marcus Walker, defensive end Florida State. Den Marcus Walker

de Marcus Wal Marcus State. Kind of think a better three technique than an outside player. Uh absolutely, but you could watch if you if you watch the Old Miss game, that opening game, it was a show. He was. He was Old Miss backfield the entire night. Uh So, think he's a better again, better inside player than out. Broncos have got a pretty stout pass rush as is. You know here, you put this guy inside, you might get

some good at it. That gil interior pressure. Yeah. Is he a kind of a rotational player though, I mean I think I think he's a situational defensive tackle pass round. I agree, that's what I think. And that's interesting because you're talking about the guy who led the NC DOUBLEA in sacks last year. He had sixteen sacks. But that's one of those guys. You turn on the tape and you see an undersized defensive tackle who kind of wins with quickness. And at the next level, where are you

going to play him? Because he's so he doesn't have the size to be a defensive tackle. So I really think he's a situational three tech. Is there anything else you can do with him? I'm trying to think of good things to say. Okay, I mean we had him as a solid fourth round pick. Yeah, yeah, they did a situational rush. Yeah, and like I and I know Florida State fans are all over it, you know, because the production, the sack numbers. But where are they gonna play him? As he gonna put him on the edge,

They're gonna keep him inside. It's it's tough to say, but they kind of run that multiple front where they will they'll they'll do different things with the gaps. So eager to see how they use them. Uh, hopefully they keep him inside. I think that's where he can do his best work against guards. Give a little bit of space, he'd manipulate that space and make plays. Okay, the Browns around the clock, now, Browns, they're always interesting right, They're

always fun. Brown. Thank Could this be your quarterback? This is my favorite pick of the second round so far? You think so? I think so. Your quarterback mate, Oh, he's following quarterback mate at Dane knows that ye got you got yourself. I saw it on Twitter. Here we go, all right, Cleveland Brown's walking to the podium. Let's go well a little time. This guy played in the days before Helmet's git gracious to announce the Cleveland Brown selection.

Please welcome from Syracuse University nineteen seventy one Hall of Fame and ductee fullback Jim Brown. Yeah, I just made fun of the greatest running back of all time. It's okay, Jim Brown. You didn't know who back with a beard going? He grew Yeah, he grew the beard out. Thank you very much. With the fifty second pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select they Shine Kaiser. I thought you didn't. I thought you didn't like Kaiser,

my number two quarterback. Well I stand corrected. Two rounds early, it's two rounds early. Kaiser is again. You give this guy time, you develop him what he could be. I mean, they're not he doesn't need to be on the field until seventeen. If he's ready in tilS eighteen, I really think that he could be something. I really do. It's all there. If all the physical traits are there, all the mental traits are there, he just needs to tighten

up a few of the few of the inconsistencies. It's not that he can't do these things, it's just it's there's no consistency. And I think you look at everything he had to deal with at Notre Dame, from the coaching staff to just the inconsistent supporting cast around him. I really like what he could be down the road. There's a reason we don't see redshirt sophomore quarterbacks leave early, and they're just not ready for what the NFL brings.

And so as long as he has time to sit and learn, get him on my team and outside the top fifty picks. I mean, I don't care if you don't even like Deshaan Kaiser outside the top fift right six, this is a lottery ticket. You don't know if you if you think even a little bit that Deshaun Kaiser could be something outside the top fifty picks, boom, give them to me. Every day and maybe he turns into something. All right, well, let's we'll take a break. You know,

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they're gone. Visit Dallas Cowboys dot com or call one eight hundred and seven four five three thousand. This is continuing coverage of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three the fan. Back here in the SWBC Morgat Studios, Brian brought us Dame Burglar, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin kat Turner, and David Hellman. We're working our way down to the Dallas Cowboys pick at number sixty. UH. The Detroit Lions are currently on

the clock. I'm looking right now. Their pick is in at fifty three, so we're waiting for the commissioner UH to uh to talk about that. Just a little bit of a recap. At fifty one. UH, the Denver Broncos took DeMarcus Walker defensive in defensive tackle from Florida State. UH. Deshaun Kaiser, quarterback Notre Dame Dame Brugler, probably the best pick of the second day for him. At two fifty two. That goes so Kaiser, his second best quarterback on his

board goes to his uh, his home team. Basically, if you want to say that, they're gonna they're gonna have a season with him if they decide, you know what, this isn't our guy, and he can go up and get a quarterback next year. With all that, Amo yep. And now the uh, the Miami Dolphins. Uh, they are the Dolphins that we're gonna We're on a break right now. I don't know if they're that that would be. Let's see, No, Detroit just made will be the next team to pick.

I'm sorry, I'm out of order here. Detroit, Miami, and the Giants will be the next three. So when we come back from television from the break, we'll be able to talk about that. Look at the Ford Center war room, Kideah analyze that for me a little bit, Dave, Well, this doesn't look like a team that's trying to do anything. Yeah, that's I mean not fielding any calls either. We're getting into that range. You know, fifty three is about to

come off the board, fifty four fifty five. This is if you're going to do something, this is where I would probably try to do it because it's not going to cost you as dearly as it might have before. But nobody's on the phone. Nobody, you know, they were huddled up and they looked kind of animated earlier, and they were having conversations, and now they're just like, yeah, we're we're good to go. Well, we're in. They're looking now almost look kind of bored, to be honest with you.

We're in the we're looking into the Detroit Lion war room right now, and the commissioner is walking to the podium with the Detroit's pick at fifty three Detroit Lions selection. Please welcome from Jackson State University nineteen ninety two Hall of Fame inductee quarterback Lem Barney. Good player, K I don't remember this guy. Then Barney was really good. Happened before he was good? I don't know about it. Thank you.

Number twenty, with the fifty third pick in the twenty thousand and seventeen not the Football League, the Detroit Lions have selected tease table defensive back from Florida. There you go. That's back to back Gators for the Lions, and there you go. The hat goes on Tease Tabor and hook and he is going to be a Detroit Lions. He looks like not that thrilled, he looks kind of annoyed everybody.

He's trying to tell everybody to be quiet. Yeah, he's trying to talk to and he's looking everybody like, please just be quiet and let me talk here. But Tease Tabor, a guy that we targeted on our board was a first round player. Uh could speed or the time speed hurting him? The tape not that bad and you're not that bad, not that bad at all. And you can watch him here in a way to say awesome, Yeah

he is. He is a very reactionary athlete. I think that I think he'll be fine in the National Football League. I do think there's cover skills there. I think the ability to play with awareness. I do like the way that he has anticipation to drive on the football. So, uh, Tease Tabor will be a Detroit Lion this year. He's a cowboy, and I don't mean that as a Dallas cowboy. I mean he just he's a little reckless with the way to place and you can get away with that

on Florida's defense. When you have you're playing in the SEC, and they're probably not many good quarterbacks. And you have so much talent around you on the Florida defense, but in the NFL, and it's gonna be a little different, and you don't have the makeup speed after you make a mistake. It worries me a little bit. So I'm cautiously optimistic with Tabor, so eager to see where he goes. But you got my ammy on the miamis now at the podium today. Nineteen ninety three Hall of Fame inductee

guard Larry Little. Another good one. Ka. It's not terribly familiar with this guy, very Little. It's one of the original pulling guardsman John Hanno County. There you go. He reminded you. I always have that. That's over it. Fifty fourth pick of the two twenty seventeen the NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select Ray Juan McMillan. Ohio State had two seventeen, So we're splitting the difference. We're far in the past and far in the future. I don't know. Okay,

the Miami Dolphins take Ray Kuan McMillan. You know, Dan, what I really like about this guy when he hits you he's like, it's like a Mike Foster hit hurt and he's one of those guys that when the ball here runs into him, they stop. There's no forward mounting power. Yeah, absolutely got to stop and pick. He's your traditional mic linebacker. You know, he can play, do his best work between the hashes. Uh, you know, he's gonna take on blocks. He's not a bad athlete by any means, but you know,

he's just he's not that sideline the sideline guy. He does have a little bit of range where you know, he can make plays off tackles. So I think he can be a solid starter in the NFL. Not sure he's gonna be, you know, that impact player that maybe a Foster will be, but he can be a solid starter for many years. So we're six picks away from sixty where the Cowboys picker right now, by the way, Kat, the Giants are on the clock at fifty five and the picks in there though. Yeah Giants last night at

twenty three. What they do I've I've forgotten already after they tight end by the name of oh yeah, Evan Ingram of course. Yeah, yeah, So that's interesting. Six eleventh receiver to go with their no lineman. Yeah, there's a team needs an offensive tackle. We've talked about that, a bunch linebacker, defensive line. You know they're losing. They lost Hankins. There as that three technique. Well, here comes to commissioner, walk into the podium. Maybe they the Giants back to

announced the New York Giants selection. Please welcome from South Carolina State University two thousand and six Hall of Fame inductee linebacker Harry Carson brought us. You're gonna have to tell me a little bit about this guy, Harry Carson. Good play. They had a linebacker Crue that was pretty awesome with him and Lords Taylor. They got after you. With the fifty fifth pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the New York Football Giants select Dalvin Tomlinson.

There you goignball, big man, pretty good football. Jeff, give us a thumbnail on him. I think, man, when you watch Alabama, it almost doesn't matter who you watch on that Alabama defense. Other guys are gonna catch your eye, Like you watch Jonathan Allen and Ruben Foster are gonna jump at you the most. But even when you're watching him every once in a while, you're gonna turn your

head and go who is that? And then in Tomlinson's case, that's why you're watching Jonathan Allen and you're like, who is the dude in the middle that keeps making plays? Just he's one of those guys. I don't know if he's a three technique, but the New York Giants are gonna have two really big boys up the middle that are tough to move and play with a good motor. Tomlinson, you know, he's just a really big, tough dude. Yeah,

but don't they have one of those already? They do, They got snacks, So, I mean, it just seems like they'd be looking for more of a three in the technique instead of the nose or the one man. After watching the way that the NFC East is drafting, and I don't know how much of this happens in the draft brought us you tell me, yeah, but I feel like you watch some of these other teams in the

East drafting, and they know who's blocking yet Dallas. They know who's blocking A Dallas, and they know who they know who, they know whos running the football. They're gonna stack up that middle and the Giants. We're one of the teams that success had a lot of success, you know, defeating the Cowboys twice, and a lot of it had to do with they could not control that front. And that's something that you know, the Giants, uh losing Hankins

in there, needed to get a replacement. And and Dalvin uh Tomlinson is a is a big body, and we'll see where they in fact, they play him keeping nord that offensive line, Giants, you just keep doing that, that'll be good. I mean, I think that's a fair that is a fair criticism. But I mean, Cowboys O line verse Giants D line is like one of the best matchups in football right edge. I mean, oh my gosh, it's gonna be It's gonna be a blood bath every

time they play for the next five years. Okay, that puts the Oakland Raiders, or excuse that puts well Oakland still Oakland, still Oakland. For now, I haven't have it called him the Las Vegas Raiders. They're not the Vegas Raiders yet, not yet, not yet. Real quick, real quick, Russ, Can we just five picks to go here? Five guys in the room. Can we just pick a guy we won at sixty quick, we got a guy. Pick it.

Go ahead, man, your idea, your idea? Guy. I started thinking about, Man, I don't want to take Broadest or Jets. Go ahead say, I'm gonna say, thank you, Ken, Why are you taking my guy? What's that about? I know I was gonna this is the game he plays because he wanted to go first. Do we want to play where everybody has to pick a different guy because I'm taking a different Take your guy? Yeah, thank your guy.

My guy would be tankers That's my guy too. I love Morogue also, dam that's that's that's why I mocked in my second round mocked. I would go wild card and say that dude, Zach Cunningham is still on the board. Duke's on the board, and I'd love those two linebacks in the interest Asham, in the interest of being well rounded Rivers. Tankersley is probably the guy that I would circle too. But like, and I mean, I know what he does, I've watched him, but how well does he

fit what they want to do here? Press man? That's not that's not what the Cowboys I know. That's what I'm saying. He's the best press man quarter in the in the draft if I think you may. I mean, if if Todd Bowles was the coach here, like I would Rob Ryan, I would carve that name in stone. But I would like to think you play to your to your player's strengths. And I think the Cowboys multiple things. If you line him up in front of a guy

and let him cover, he can do it. If you play him in a Baiale technique and sort of a cover three, he can do it. And the offman does he have problems? He does, But he's a guy that's over six foot two hundred pounds, runs in the four fours, and has better feet than most of your corners that are over six feet. So even in the off coverage, I'd like to think the guy can improve. We're not picking players that are never going to improve, are we, No, Because that would be bad. That would be bad. That

would be a bad deal. All right. I know what y'all would say based on the fact that you just listed him as your guy. But I mean, okay, Moreau's Moreau and a Woozier h Yeah, and neither would be the wrong pick. I don't you know what I mean? Yeah, we really didn't like a woozier that much, though I did. I liked him quite a bit. I know you guys were a little lower on did we do him as a as a woozier? Who do we do is a tell me more? I thought it was a woozier that

we did a tell me more. I don't think we did him as a tell me more. That's three did a woozier and we're wondering what everybody saw that put. Okay, maybe that's I've got him forty three overall on my board. We had him in the fourth round and one oh five through the fan board. Okay, so I can tell you now I wouldn't be pleased. Sometimes we're haters. Well, and he's he is a little bit more of a

better nickel than maybe he is an outside corps. Yeah, so I think that's maybe one of the bigger reasons he's still available here at this point. We did make a point to watch. You know. Actually, I think the first games we watched were late in the year, so he's dealing with that toe in a turf toe, yeah, which he got roasted in the ball. So we moved it back and watched some earlier games as well, though still press. I like just kind of mah and I just don't want to do it here. I would be

okay with it at ninety two. I don't want to do it right here at sixty I just feel like Tankersley won't beat the pick even if he's available. Well, let's go to the podium now. The Raiders are gonna make a selection here at number fifty six. Four to the Cowboys. Excuse me, three to the Cowboys after this question. Please welcome from Grant Wing State University, nineteen eighty four Hall of Fame inductee quarterback Willie Brown. I remember Willie

back in well, okay, congratulations for being here. And maybe a couple of things out of the way, one ben type of Mother's Day coming up in a couple of which every year. All right, there we go for your mom. Okay, my mom should be I'm listen, Oh my mom will be one hundred and three in October. You really they're gonna boo and family that Jersus day and hello missus.

Al Davis, I'm gonna tell you how he's so oh boy by okay, ever, go worth the fifty to sixth pick in the two thousand and seventy draft the Oaklan rated. We select Obie Melo defense Cowboy fan Obie Mellofa. Woo. Okay, if you're a Cowboys fan, maybe you're I'm gonna give you a little history lesson here sad with the guys. I remember Gutty Patrick Bates, Remember Pat Watkins, Patrick Bates.

It go back and look up the name Patrick Bates and he was taken by the Los Angeles Raiders at the time sixty three, two hundred and fifteen pounds safety I believe from with Texas A and M and UCLA. He was actually a transfer, but the Raiders took Patrick Bates and he's one of the guys when you talk about safeties that are over sixty three. He was one of those guys that played in the league but busted out.

So hopefully Obi melafal Wu will be better than what Patrick Bates was able to do with his time with the with the Raiders. Can I throw in a crazy sidebar just because I just saw the tweet from Rapaport Saints are trying to trade up from the third round, floating a third rounder and a second rounder next year, looking for an edge rusher. Yeah, if that DG. Rusher is there and you get that offer. Yeah, that's right,

an offer. Yeah. Actually they pick pretty early in the third, right, I like tenleve there're three and a second round pick next year. I think it's seventy six overall. Go back sixteen spots and pick up a second rounder next year. Well, let's talk about real quick on Obie uh Dane workout warrior. Yeah, guys like him just you don't see walking around right unless planet. I mean, he looked good in the cafeteria when he came through on the visits by the war

two hundred and twenty five pounds. He's a four four oh athlete. The jumps, the explosive jumps at the combine, give me a break, right, unbelievable what this kid can do. But when you, you know, talk about him in football context on the on the tape, the mental trigger, that's what you worry about, right, It doesn't matter how fast you are, how explosive you are, if you don't see it, if you don't anticipate it, all that athleticisms to waste. So yes, he did have over three hundred and fifty

tackles in college as a four year starter. A lot of those tackles were down the field. Yeah, I mean you could see reaction. Yeah, Don Umphrey, Yeah, ran right over him. Yeah, I mean, come on, yeah, it shouldn't happen. All right, the picks in for the Houston Texans. This will be picked number fifty seven. That'll put put us two away from Dallas. Let's go to the podium, Andrea,

I know that guy, Brian, please welcome. He was in the university and I was a good player brand play wide receiver Andre Johnson, and they had a team around him back in the year. What's the year? And thank you with the fifty seven pick. And in twenty seventeen NFL draft, the Houston Texans to elect Zack Cunningham, linebacker Vanderbilt. All right, there you go, right there, Yeah, Zach Cunningham.

That's the team, what number one ranked defense in the league last year, right, and they just added they added one of the one of my favorite players on the defensive side of the ball. Again, you watch his tape six three and a half two or thirty four pounds. He is a guy. Now, the question about him, listening to some scouts talk to him, is how much does he really really love football? And you know some scouts that had questions. Again, Vanderbilt kid, he was a you know,

a redshirt junior. But I'll tell you one thing though, this kid will never come off the field. He is one of those guys. You watch him blitz, you watch him cover, you watch him tackle. He's a sideline to sideline player. He was one of the guys I had very high in my top fifty. I'm really surprised he lasted to pick fifty seven. But man, he went to a great situation in Houston, and they will do a great job down there. L Cornell using him. Can I

cut you off real quick? Speaking of linebackers, did you happen to notice who just walked onto the Ford Center war room? Can? No? I did not who it was? Matt Eberflus. Okay, it was the first coach we've seen tonight. Who happened he coaches linebackers. I think it's also fair to say he's the passing defense coordinators, right. That could mean a variety. Yeah, this could be the talk about the cornerbacks and stuff like that. But he is the first coach that I've seen walk into the war room tonight.

If we see a Joe Baker or a Greg Jackson that will tell you as well. So, uh, let's see at the Cowboys, it's gonna be Seattle is all the clock right now at fifty eight, their their pick is in. So when we get back, Seattle be up and rolling for for them. And so we are getting clear. Yeah, we're getting close. But I feel I mean Attle, Kansas City in Dallas, I think two picks to go. Yeah, here we go. There are two picks to go, and there's at least, like I mean, there's at least three

guys left that I feel good about. Right, all Right, our mock draft, we traded back, didn't we dange? Did we pick up this? This is the point. This is the point where we went back in our mock draft to sixty five with Cleveland and picked up the extra fifth round pick that we didn't have that was gonna start the fifth round tomorrow. So, uh, Stephen Jones was on the phone just a little bit earlier. On the phone right now, Chris Hall. He Chris Hall usually is

involved with getting the player on the phone. So let's mouth, let's see, yeah, let's see, he knows what he's doing. A lot of lass were on the side eye at the camera too. If from Stephen and uh and Jerry Junior actually going across Garrett and Jerry, it just kind of just killed jokes skill on. So I think everyone feels good. Maybe not a lot of action right here. The quality of player available at the sixtieth pick in the NFL draft is insane this year. Yeah, I could.

I mean in a lot of drafts, I could have taken Kadrea Tankerusly Fabian Moreau in the first round. Uh, Derek Rivers is still on the board. Basham is on the board. Carl Lawson for somebody's on the board. All these receivers are on the board. LF Line the Ohio State Center, Phoenie the guard from India that the level of player that made it to sixty this year is insane. Yeah,

and it's uh. I'll tell you what though, Again, you can't criticize them for what happened last night if they would have taken the corner and waited, because obviously Rivers is gonna be on this board. I'm want to say Basham is gonna be on the board too when they pick. These are guys that they brought in on their visits and a lot of people had Basham mocked to the Cowboys at sixty sixty. Yeah, he was a guy that

did for a while. Yeah, but because I had a corner in the first right, Yeah, I had a pass rusher in the first I wouldn't have done nuts. I agree with Jeff though, is I mean, yeah, maybe they reached for their guy in the first round. But hindsight's twenty twenty, and I said this this morning. You know, I feel better about Taco than whoever they might have gotten at sixty, I thought me personally, I still feel that way. I'm fine with the way it worked out, even if you know, I mean one of the two

of Basham or Rivers will be there. So yeah, well, let's see the phones again, monitoring what's going on in the Ford Center war room. Phones not ringing. Chris Hall was working a phone earlier, but Chris is more of a identified talk to the players. See where he's at. Guy, Chris is not going to do anything to Uh. Chris just gave a thumbs up, so Jerry with a nod. It looks like some happy people. Yeah, handshakes. Okay, Rod

Marinelli again, Okay, it comes to defense. Rod. Yeah, let's see though, if in fact, so it's not going to be a quarterback. Nathan Peterman Marionelli. Yeah, let's see if Joe Baker. Oh, we can't quite see if they're hitting a knuckles. Seahawks are We're all announced Seahawks into fifty eight. Here we go with pick in the twenty seventeen the NFL Draft. The Seattle Seahawks eat the tackle all right there,

so helps the offensive line. There's your helps's not a bad player, and I'm they said tackle, Well, that's the thing. He was a good center. Yeah, he could realistically play five spots on sure. That's exactly what Seattle needs, a guy that has that type of position flex. Oh, he needs to literally play all five. Yeah, Seattle first one ever do it. They might run Malik McDowell out there. Yeah, they're gonna bench the other four. Why not on the other line post. He was a center, but he could play.

He could play all the spots. I hate tall centers, so I think he's best at guard. But he also played right tackle. Four him, I mean you can move him and that that versatility is key with a player like that. There's your former intern, Yeah Snyder, John Snyder working him. Handshakes all around, just handshakes everywhere. Yeah, let's they got a guy. They got a guy in mind, picked a good player. Yeah, Kansas City. Kansas City is on the clock right now. That's one pick ahead of

him at fifty nine. Let's see what they do. But there's plenty, plenty of names on this board for the Cows. You may want to take a guess who they who they selected. Well, Burrow's interesting because he's a possible pup guy, right, and you know, I know, I don't care. I can get by with three I got for now. That's a great rebuilt. Knowing Carroll, I think gives you the ability to draft that if you want to, because the secondary needs to be overhauled for the next five years. You've

you've got play. You've got three who can play until October. Moreau's under contract for four years. That's a really good point. I'm still I'm fine with it. I'm just talking about what the Cowboys be. Okay with it. You know, let's if not take tankers, let's just have a party. I think I feel better about what Moreau would do in

this defense than tanker Chiefs the podium. Yeah, Chiefs are at the podium, right now from Louisiana State University wide receiver Carlos Carson brought us somebody to help on this one. With the ninth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the CANSI the Chiefs select Tono. WHOA, I didn't want to draft that guy at ninety two. Here's passing on he is the we we we drafted him. We did him at at an our mock draft. We had him going at ninety two to the Cowboys. So here he is.

He goes to the Kansas City Chiefs at pick fifty nine. That means that Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. Uh, Jerry Jones is visiting TV is a little behind. So um, it could be. It could be any number we've talked about Moreau, Oh, Tankerslee, Uh, the the guys that they brought in, uh Wazier. Uh yeah like Woozier. I know you guys didn't like him as much. I think he was a forty third player in this on my back, Okay, I think he is. He's the best blitzing corner in

this draft. He played a little linebacker, played a little safety, played a little corner. I think he can do all those things. He is one of the better nickels in this class. The versatility is key with him. When you talk about a Woozier, I'm a big fan of who he is. Yeah, so he's not elite from a heightweight, speed, length speed, you know that. That just the raw measurables. But I think when you talk about his instincts, you talk about the position flex, I'm excited what he could be.

Uh so I think him moreau. Those are kind of the two I'm looking at here. If the pick is a Woozier, you know what they call him? Right? What's that cheeto? There? You go? So we got taco and cheeto. If he is in fact the pick, yeah, we think it's gonna be a corner back. Rod Marinelli has jumped on the phone now and uh so, uh we'll see in fact who I mean, the who they've will make

the announcement here. Okay, obviously all right, Basham and Rivers fell, which you could you know, maybe they didn't think that would happen, or maybe they don't like them as much as they like taco, whatever, but you have to give them props that they gambled that a corner they liked would be here. And there's three or four of them that they brought in and liked enough to visit with. So definitely right about that. And there's Joe Baker further

confirming yea, our suspicions. So here they go. It's, uh, we're gonna get the Cowboys pick Live. Well, we feel like this is gonna be a cornerback here we we do. We went through I personally have Moreau in the one five three board Moreau tankers Lee. We've talked about that, you know, pretty with Joe Baker on so the poone, it's yeah, it's definitely a defensive back here. Just a matter of waiting for TV to come back and officially give us that pick. So as we wait, it's kind

of been a long journey here, you know. I mean, they they felt like that. I went through the litany of corners that were available that who of the three we were talking about Dane again, and you were given a pretty pretty good thumbnail. Give me, give me the one that's the best fit, the best fit for what the Cowboys are trying to do scheme wise. I really think it'd be a woozy yeah, I mean I do. I think because of the position flex everything he can

do on the football field. And again he's not that elite heightweight, speed guy, short arms. But when you talk about and really that's what we think the Cowboys value in a defensive back, right, those numbers. But we talking about football instinct. You talked about the tape, talk about the position flex everything you can do in the football field. I'm taking that by I mean, get that type of player on my team. I like to pick if that's

if that's addression they go. But again, tankerously, we talked about he's a press man guy. When he played off coverage, that's where he struggled. I think Fabian Moreau he was better, and I think I pressed because he could he could mix and match with any type of route off the line of scrimmage. But you know there were some questions there with him. So I think we're just talking the best fit for what the Cowboys want. I like the Colorado corner. What do you what do you do with

this guy on day one? You let him fight for the Knicks starting nickel or not. Well, it is almost a starting nickel job. You let him start or fight for that spot and if he can win, great and you get him on the field, you feel good about him on the boundary or no, maybe not right away, but I think eventually, Yeah, he can do it um and he did that a lot at Colorado. But when they'd go they show three wide receiver sets, he'd kick

inside playing the nickel. I think that's where he's most comfortable, especially with his blitzing ability. He holds the Colorado record for sacks by a defensive back. So they let it loose quite a bit with Yeah, that was something you know that we see with Rod Murinelli. Were like, you're kind of us he's taller, but you just said a bunch of stuff that reminded me of Orlando Scantrick. Yeah. All right, Well, they're all lined up in the war room. They're ready for the pick to come rolling and TV

is back from their break. We're at of course, they're in the second round, pick number sixty, and we're just waiting for the commissioner to walk to the podium and I make we think this is going to be a cornerback. We've kind of gone through the names, the various names. Uh you know, Uh, that's that's uh what we think will happen. But you never know. But again, all the defensive coaches were in there. The staff looks very happy

about their selections. So they're acting like a crew whose plan worked out, And yeah, whose plan was to kind of map this thing out a little bit and have a good cornerback fall to you at sixty. Yeah, well let's see if you know, Jeff, do you you on board with this? Sir? You have your core. You said Tankerously would be your guy. Whinney, Yeah, that's that's that's my guy. I just I like Tankerously and I like Moreau because I feel like those are guys that are

big enough to play on the boundary. They both do a lot of things that I like. Well, let's go to the podium. Drew Pearson's gonna make the pick Dallas Cowboys selection. Please welcome the University of Tulsa wide receiver Drew Pearson. All right, how about the Cowboys. I want to thank the Eagle fans for allowing me to have a career in the NFL. Thank you honor as an undrafted free agent to be selected to make the Cowboys second round draft pick and on behalf of the five

time world champion Dallas Cowboys. Jerry jo Jerry's loving it. Jason Gary, Oh, the cowboy play before me, after me? What the second brick? And I TUCKI pick a second. The Dallas Cowboys, like defens back from Colorado should be there. We go there he is, Oh, I think I like Drew Pearson. Just I don't care about the pick anymore. Drew Pearson just took my breath. I look what Drew did. More than I liked the picks. Drew made me feel better. Drew made me feel a lot better. He took it

to the Eagles fans. So I don't always just aren't they just don't agree with me. Why don't you like to play, Jeffrey, Why don't you like the pick? You know when we when we watched a Woozier, I just I didn't see it. I didn't see it. You know, in this I want to defer to Dane, and I want Dane to be right because to Kat's point, I think they followed their plan. They took their defensive end, and they took their corner. They had a number of

corners that fell to him. They're good players, and they got good scouts, and they got Will McClay and if they decided Joobia Woozier is the best one on the board, then I'll believe that he's better than what I thought I saw in tape. That's kind of where I'm at too. I mean, and at this I don't know. Maybe they'll work out, maybe they won't. There's no way to know that. But I trust their evaluations. And we said all spring they needed to get starter caliber guys at pass rush,

at corner and at safety. Sitting here halfway through this, I mean halfway through the tonight, I mean, they got two of the three. Only time will tell if it works out, but I certainly can't criticize the strategy. I thought the best thing that this kid did on tape was blitz. I thought sometimes there was issues in coverage. I just saw a very you know, kind of an average burst. An average average, I know, is it long speeds?

There wouldn't the most fluid of athletes. Um, you know what you said about the size, right, Can he you know, end up playing outside will be a question. Um, But he just he didn't flash that much to me on tape. But you know, maybe I missed something. I agree with everything you said except for one thing. I think he's fluid, and I think he has better I mean he ran a four four three. I thought he was son easy mover. Yeah, I mean he ran a four four three, but he

don't think he played four four three. His time speed was better than his play speed. But I really I thought he was really fluid. I thought he knew how. I mean, he could seamlessly transition with receivers at the line of scrimmage in off coverage. And so when you have that type of foot quickness, the body control the hips, I mean, that's what you're looking for at the position. And you know, he just I didn't think he got beat very often. Now, if you watched the bowl game,

it got pretty ugly. Yeah, because he was dealing with a turf toe. And that might have been my biggest worry with him, is he dealt with a few different different injuries. Look at the Packers. Yeah, Packers are up at pick sixty one. Here, let's go to him real quick and we'll come back. NC State Josh Jones, that guy, Josh Jones, safety stones, Josh Jones. NC State is picked by the Packers at sixty one. Great pick by them. Yeah, so I will, okay, And then thought Dane about you

about the movement skills of a woozier. Yeah, like productions there. Thirty nine passes defended the last four years, and again he played corner, played free safety, played all over. Uh. He nine sacks, twenty six tackles for loss. He tested really well. Not the biggest guy's under six foot, he's about two hundred pounds short arms. But I think the football intelligence, the competitive nature, those things are off the charts, and I think that's what they're really buying here. Yeah,

that arg is that ad Jason Garrett rap. That sounds like exact, That sounds like a blueprint for a Cowboys pick. So which that means at ninety two, I demand you pick somebody who's awesome at football. And he also played all special teams coverage. Okay, there's that. That's good. He doesn't come for a different Are we talking about a guy who's ready to come in and play seven hundred and fifty eight hundred snaps as your fourth cornerback? This is not is that what this is? This isn't a project,

This isn't a guy you're gonna sit. This is a guy who he's going to play. He's going to see a lot of snaps. Absolutely, I don't think it's going to be a big jump for him. Uh you know, I mean one of the things you don't like to see only three picks for a guy with forty two starts, only three picks. That's a little bit of red flag, because that's huge. O. You know what. The whole thing here was remaking the secondary tonight. I remember if maybe it doesn't happen the second, but in this draft they

had to remake the second. He's playing from day one, and we got the Steelers at the podium. Yeah, Steelers at the podium. Franco Harris, I know this guy, Bryan, see Pittford Steelers selection. He's welcome from Penn State nineteen ninety Haul of Fame inductee running back Franko. Harris, Hello Philadelphia, and a big shout out to Steeler Nation. With the sixty second pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft,

the Pittsburgh Steelers select Juju Smith's Schuester from USC. You thought, oh, Shuster going the second, Yeah, I did too. Yeah, I thought he was gonna go to Uh. I thought he was my guy golf, Yeah, go to the Rams. I thought that this would be the Rams pick. But the Pittsburgh Steelers, and it makes sense for the Steelers would take this guy. Oh yeah, this is a big Antonio Brown or Tavis Bryant and juju. Yeah, after Antonio Brown, you have a lot of question marks. Yeah, Martavis Bryant,

can you stay on the field. It's reinstated. He's ready to rock? Name can he stay to rock? Sammy Coates can't catch a cold? They have and Eli Rogers has you know, turned into a solid player. Yeah, you know, a contributor. But they're looking for that true number two and I think Smith Schuster could be that down the line. The youngest player in this draft, he's not going to

be twenty one until Thanksgiving. Yeah, well he's he's a young pub he's a Pittsburgh Steeler and he is uh you know, And to me, this is a guy that's not afraid. I mean that's always always think about Steeler receivers, you know, those tough, gritty inside players. You know, maybe not the fastest guy, but we'll go get the football. Be a good bad weather player, got a high catch radius, you know. That's that's a that's a nice pick for a and well Mark Tavis Brian has been conditionally reinstated

by the NFL. Right, so right, the rich get richer. Yeah, real quick report from Ian Rappaport. Cowboys might be shopping Scandrick a little bit. So that's fun. Okay. So this that actually if they could pull it off, and he says the asking price is a three as the third and I don't know if anybody's gonna pay that, but if you could pull that off, I would like the

Woozier pick better. At that point. Part of my reservation on that pick is, as Dane's talking about and Kti was talking about the blitzing with a Woozier, if that spot is there for him and it belongs to him, then I feel better about that pick. And I'm shopping for another corner. Yeah, if I can plug him in and plan to start him and he's gonna be in the slot. And then got a trade on the board, Yeah, I got a trade coming up on the it. And

I agree with you, Jeff in this. I mean, right now, you have Carol, Scandrick Brown and a Woozier, and from what I'm hearing it sounds like four really similar guys. We have Chitobe on the line right now, Jitoby, Hey, it's Brian Broadest Day Burglar, Jeff Kavanaugh, and Kevin Turner from Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three. Welcome to the Dallas Cowboy. It's got to be an exciting evening for you. Man, this is the most exciting day of my life. Man. I always wanted to be

a cowboy, and now I have this opportunity. Now I'm just ready to, you know, do anything I can to help us organization win. So we're gonna get the audio of your phone call at some point and we're gonna play it of when Jerry and the coaches called you. But how did that go for you? What was going through your mind? Had that conversation go? Man? I kind of just sat down. I just kept saying thank you and how you know, grateful I was for them to take a chance on me. And you know, I was

just closing my eyes. And when I opened up my parents' family everybody started screaming, and I just said a couple of tiers and it really just hit me that, you know, my dreams was coming true and I have a chance to be great. So you're on the list of Cowboys visits and so what was that light coming and meeting with Garrett, Rod Marinelli and Joe Baker. Man, it was such a beautiful place. You know, I fell in love

with it. And you know, like in college you get to choose where you want to go, and the NFL you can't do that. But you know that if it was college again, I would definitely chose to go. I feel like any player would have chose to be a Cowboy. And just having this opportunity now and being with the facility and the type of coaches and players that they're having the facility already, Man, I know I sit right

in and I'm ready to get to work. Dwe You've played outside, corner, inside, you've played safety, You've played all over. Where do you feel most comfortable? Where do you think you can make the biggest impact? I said, I said it all the time. I'm a baller, period, and I feel like that's where the Cowboys saw me, that I could play all those positions at a really high level.

You know, no matter where you put me, you're gonna get a ball or someone who's gonna make place, who's gonna change the game, you know, gonna be a leader in the locker room. So they know where they're getting, how a player they're getting and I'm just excited to be a part of the organization. And I mean, I think that's the attitude the Cowboys look for in their cornerbacks. It sounds like a lot of the guys they have here already just in terms of what they look for. UM,

just curious. And you know, like we mentioned, you had a chance to come out here to Dallas and visit with these guys. What did they tell you about what they like about you, what they expect from you from the get you know, as a rookie, Well they expect you know, a guy is very knowledgeable about the game. Someone theyre moving pieces they could put anywhere. And they talked to me about playing corner nick all that. So they basically just seen what Coach Max saw me with

my high school coach saw me. You know, an underdog who's willing to you'll work his way to the top. And that's the kind of player of their game. Well, Hdobe, thank you so much for joining us. I congratulations. We look forward to to seeing you here at the Star here in Frisco. And uh again, you know, it's a heck of a career. They're at Colorado with coach Mack and and again we're looking forward to welcome you here with the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you so much. Thank you

go Cowboys. Kdobie thirteen and three wasn't enough already for a Super Bowl? Could you do that for us? You feel me? That's what I'm coming here for. I always wanted the ring. We're gonna get one. All right, Thank you man, have a great idea. We'll see you down the road. All right. All right, well that sounds that sounded like a corner back to me. All right, Well, here's okay, Buffalo, Buffalo took this. Buffalo was making this pick for Atlanta, Atlanta. I saw it. There was pick

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Visit Dallas Cowboys dot com or call one eight hundred and seven to four five three thousand. This is continuing coverage of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft on Dallas Cowboys dot com and one oh five three the fan. We're back here in the SWBC Mortgage studios, coming to the close of the second round, and then we will go into the third round where the picks or we come five minutes. We just missed Buffalo's pick. This was a pick that they acquired from Atlanta. They took Dion Dawkins

guard tackle from Temple, one of my favorites. What a fun Yeah, and here we go. Carolina is now they're on, They're on, They're at the podium. Here, let's go to Carolina at sixty four podium Western mister, all right, one of the few tackles left that you think could project as a starter. Yeah. So yeah, it's a good pick by Carolina. Who needs offensive line? Yeah so Taylor, So Taylor Moten, offensive tackle, Western Michigan. He's gonna go to

the Carolina Panthers. Like I said before, that was Buffalo took Dion Dawkin's at tackle from the UH from Temple, tamp guard tackle, right, So a nice pick for them. Okay, quickly though, how many players has Western Michigan had drafted? Ever? Well? Quick, just a second two? How many has Texas had? Oh no, not not one, not until Foreman goes big old donut. Okay, just checking, just wondering, Yeah, just wondering what with the big twelve in general? Yeah, it's like two or three.

It's not not a not a banner weekend so far. I don't know. I just felt like being rude for a second. I'll talk to you all well, thanks today. Appreciate that. I mean real quick talk about the I mean, I look at the Cowboys have done. Okay, but in terms of like my favorite draft so far, really like what Caroline has done being McCaffrey, Samuel and then Moten. I mean, you got better than the offensive line and

you've got two offensive weapons. Okay, let's real quick. We Dane was talking about earlier in Rappaport broke a story or was talking about a conversation with about Orlando Scandrick potentially be a trade Mike Fisher from one oh five three The Fan, the Cowboys insider, Mike, I understand it. You have talked to Orlando Scandrick. Just had a conversation with Orlando Scandrick and he confirms this news. He tells me, I was told the same thing that I've heard that

I am a trade candidate. He kind of shrugs his shoulders as to why he's got three years left on his contract at about five million dollars a year as the Cowboys chase other defensive backs in the draft. Orlando Scandrick confirming to me that he is indeed on the Cowboys trade block. Mike, does he you know Orlando is always about all business? Is you said he's wondering why

any bitter bitterness here or anything like that? Or is he just uh, you know, because we've seen him here at the Star, He's been part of the workouts, you know, I see him out there on the field and then afterwards in the dining hall as well. But they sound like a bitter guy here well, and in fact is viewed by many of the players as somebody with leadership qualities. And you and I have talked, of course, Brian a lot about his conflicts with the media. And you think

they're real and I think they're fake. Orlando Scandrick has survives by having a chip on his shoulder, right, by acting like there's a chip on his shoulder. And we will see maybe tonight if he survives as a Cowboy cornerback or as elsewhere. All right, Mike, well, thank you so much. We appreciate you running down that story. It's

Mike Fisher from one oh five three the Fan. We always appreciate the any insight that he has visit with Orlando Scandrick confirming that he has been told that the Cowboys are indeed trying to move him along if they can. That's an affordable contract for a team looking for a starting cornerback. But in a draft like the one we're looking at right now, where you think that there are starting cornerbacks that you're going to get for a four year contract for less money, it just seems like it's

gonna be something that would be tough to pull off, right. Yeah, absolutely, I think that maybe a package a pick with him and try to move up our round. Well you know, yeah, it's it's you know, it's it's one of those things though, Larre. You just kind of these these players, I mean, it's you just never know. Like I said, he's been working out here. Uh, you know, people in the locker room

say what you want. You know, I know for a fact that he and and he was he's an abrasive guy, and you know he had his struggles getting along with guys. You know some of his own teammates, guys that are gone now, uh, you know JJ Wilcox with also two with uh you know, with Mo Claiborne. So you know, uh, let's see the Cowboys, uh, you know, thinking about moving on if they can. So we are now into the third round. Uh, Cleveland Browns lead off this round. This

is pick sixty five. I'll remind you that the picks are now five minutes instead of seven. Oh yeah, yet moving ten minutes the first round, seven minutes the second round, and now the the teams will have five minutes per pick to make or five minutes for the for the make their selection. So we're just kind of waiting on any you know, we talk about resetting our board. Any these players surprise you that they didn't go in the

first two rounds. We have Carl Lawson still out, Deltroll, Basha Moreau, U, Jordan Willis, uh Tankersley Rivers, Yeah at Elfly. I mean there's some talented players out there. I mean, again, like Jeff said earlier, it's a testament to this draft and why this draft class is so much fun because of the depth. We're in round three now and there are guys that can come in and be impact players for a team. Are you at the point now does

this kind of open up the door? And I know that the Cleveland pick is into we'll go to it when it's ready, but or now that we're out of the second round, you've got a corner. Are you at the point now where you start thinking a little more aggressively if something came to you, you know in the seventies, I mean you don't have a fifth thrown pick. Let's go to the podium for the Browns, the Cleveland Browns selection. Please welcome from Kent State University wide receiver Josh Cribbs.

Josh Cribbs, Kenny and that guy was a good returner back in my dad. I'm so honored to be here to represent the city of Cleveland and it's great fan base. So with the sixty fifth pick and the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns and the dog pounds to let Larry Ogan Zobie d tackle Charlotte. That's a Dane and broadest guy right there. Larry Oga joby my number fifty six player going sixty five. You like him more of a three technique right, He's your classic one gap penat.

Just get up the field as fast as you can. This is a guy who kind of was the He's the poster child of this Charlotte program, right, an upstart football program who uh you know, he comes in and and start as a freshman, you know, when they barely could field a football team, and you know, I hold so many records at that school. Helped them kind of develop into what they are now, you know, as they

continue to grow. But I really like this player and Cleveland continues to knock out of the parker I mentioned, Carolina has one of my favorite drafts. Cleveland's right there with the players they've drafted. Really like what they've done here on Day two with Kaiser and Ogwan Jobie, two

guys that went later than I had him rated. Well, there you go, and I'll see you what the thing that I really like I thought for a guy that kind of a little bit raw the way he played though, Yeah, but but he got he he has technique, he understand good technique. I mean he'll get rid of blockers. He I mean he will grab, he will snatch blockers. He's got some really really strong hands, and you're right, get up the field one technique type player one gap player.

Excuse me, get up the field, grab guys, and get rid of guys. So yeah, Larry Ogan job defensive tackle from North Carolina Charlotte is Cleveland Browns at sixty five. That puts the San Francisco forty nine ers on the clock at sixty six. Looks like their picks in just waiting for. I believe the Troy Vincent is now taken over the announcing duties for the commissioners, so we await the San Francisco pis. This is nice. We can kind of settle back in and enjoy our draft until we

get close again. Here we go, and Trey Vincent at the podium nounce to San Francisco forty nine or selection. Please welcome from the University of Auburn linebacker Tequillo Spikes and from the University of Nebraska fullback Tom Raffner. Spikes looks like he still play Yeah Funky Time, I Love You with the sixty six pick in the two thousand seventeen NFL Draft, But San Francisco forty nine ers select Akello Witherspoon defense It back out of Colorado, one of

my favorites. There go, there you go high fives all round. John Lynch a great pick. Yeah, Orgy jon As another team that's knocking out of the park. Where'd you have him on the big board, because you're talking about another Colorado corner Cowboys took one of those. Yeah, I had Witherspoon. Let's say I had him down at seventy five. There we go, we got the good one. He picked the Oh yeah, no, a woozy. I had definitely had ranked higher.

But Witherspoon. He's a tall, tall, long rangey type of player. Fascinating because he didn't start playing football till the senior year in high school, because he was five eight as a junior in high school, sprouted up to six two as a senior and went out to play football and went to Juco route, went to Colorado, and then he goes and kind of blossoms as a senior that's past year in Boulder, lead the nation and passes defense. A lot to like about him. Now he struggles and run

support and forty Niners already have a few of those guys. Yeah, Shard Robinson, right, rookie the head last Yeah right, So run support on the edges might be a little bit of an issue. But these guys can cover. Now, I'll tell you what. I felt like a guy that had good time speed. I saw some separation there with him. He shocked me with how fasty ran. Yeah, I mean

that that was something because you watched the tape. I mean you see guys get away from him, and you know, I felt like he's very good in coverage when he could play the press man, but when he had to play, but when he had to play off that was a little bit of a problem for him. But the tighter he plays, really the better he is. He can make plays and I think he matches up pretty well against size. So the ball skills was another thing check in my

notes that bothered me a little bit. Had a couple of chances to make interceptions down the field and just didn't come up with him. So Akello Witherspoon, he's the cornerback. He's going to go to the San Francisco forty nine ers. That puts the Saints on the clock, and they're walking the car to the podium as we speak. Like the pace the New Orleans Saints selection. Please well. From the University of Toledo wide receiver Lance More, I got this

gab rot us, thank you. With the sixty seventh pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Drive, the New Orleans Saints select Alvin Kamara, running back Tennessee. Another running back, didn't they just signed Dadrian Peterson? Yeah, Alvin Kamara ends up with the Saints. Kind of an all purpose guy though, you know, Mara ingram Ingram right, Yeah, might be hearing about them trying to trade some guys. They're trying to stop Drew Brees from throwing the ball forty five times

a game. Well, you don't need to run the We need to be able to run the football. But that's why you drafted Kamara because he can help you in the past. Yes, that's what he does best probably sure as a as a pass catcher out of the backfield. Also can be a punt returner from day one. So you know, and really, do we know what we're getting in Adrian Peterson if you're listen, Yeah, you know it's good. That's a good point. He signed him do a two

year deal worth seven mill. But you don't look, you trust he's going to be in shape, but you just you still don't know. This a little bit of insurance. Let's go to the secret audio Ki Garrison Woozier, let's hear what he had to say. Stand by, this is on okay, Dallas Cowboys dot com. Yes, yeah, secret audio on Dallas Cowboys dot com. And we will hear the secret audio between here we go, this Jerry Jos, this Jerry Jones and uh we just turned your card in.

We're gonna drat you. Thank you so much. Well we are. We are proud, proud for you. You've had a heck of a career there Colorado, but you sure earned a lot of really good evaluation and comments about you as a person as well as a player. So it's a it's an honor to get be on the team with you. Thank you so much. Missus Zalls, you bet, you bet. Here's our head coach, Jason Garrett. You know job, how you doing? Coach doing great? Congratulations. Thank you so much.

We're really excited for you, but we're equally excited for us. I'm excited to get going. This is a great thing for the Cowboy organization. It's a great opportunity. I can't wait to get to work. Yes, serve me too. Congrats, it's a big day for you, big day for us. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to hand the phone to Rod Marinelli, our defensive coordinator. Look forward to seeing you. You're ready to get to work? Yes, sir, I'm ready. Okay, Hey,

what's up? Stud? Congratulations? You excited? I'm really excited. Good. Oh yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. We need that and sawing them down. You're a heck of a player. Man, who're lucky to have you. Appreciate it. I appreciate it. We had our fingers crossed. So I can't wait to see you. Okay, you too? All right, there you have it. I always love that audio. I love when Mary Gelli gets on there in stud get to work. Yeah, time to go to get solid on now. It's a good

sounded kid. Though. You know you're wearing cleats, now put them on. Put them on? Absolutely so at secret audio. I love the secret audio. The favorite one of our my favorite draft moments was was that last year we're talking to Rod Marinelli on the air. Segment ends and he says, follow me, what we're doing radio? He's like, no, no, follow me. He's like, all right, you guys got this. Walked back into his office and he's pointing what was the name, what was the name of the guy a

new Rogney. No, well, no, he wanted us. He was telling us the first guy to call it. Blitz said, what do you know about Hunk Anderson. Yeah, it was like nothing, and he was like, give you some football history. Hunk called the first Blitz. Yeah. He takes us back and shows us his high school coach. He's in a suit and football cleats. Yeah, on the sideline. He said, see that, that's my high school coach. That's when I

knew this is serious. It was really good day, and it was like and we it was like we were in a commercial break, so he had like five minutes to do this, and we learned he doesn't like the sprint. He doesn't sprint. No, he was off. It doesn't go very fast. He always got a fear and you get behind him in the walking him down the hallway at Valley Ranch, you don't know whether to blow by him on the left or the right, or you just gotta walk right along with him. I found myself always kind

of just walking right behind him. I never I never ever blew by him and try to get by. So now you know, if you ever see that trivia Unk and it was hunk and or sunk and called the first blitz all the first blitz. Well, I'll tell you what, though, there are times where people don't think he calls enough blitzes. Maybe maybe I told him that and he called me out. He was like, you are you counting the run blitzes? And I was like, I don't. I just looked up

the numbers. There you go. Okay, New Orleans States take they we'll go back. That's pick sixty seven. They took Alvin Kamara, the running back. That puts Jacksonville on the clock. It looks like their pick is in. Uh we were four net and Cam Robinson. Yeah, so far in this draft. Yeah, so when you think about Jacksonville a little bit dane with so far they've helped the quarterback. Yeah, and you know,

will they continue to do that? I mean, really, you can help the quarterback by going defense here, riding another stud there. But there's there's Jacksonville is one of those teams where they don't have an obvious need, but they could use some way help across the rock depth in different places. So you're gonna see what direction they go here. We see the Tom Coughlin effect. How that's going to impact the roster. Brand new head coach as well with

with Doug Morone. So let's go to the podium, see the Jaguars and take got the Jaguars up to announce to jackson Jacksonville selection. Please welcome from Louisiana Tech University kicker Josh Scobie scams Jaguars are running out of alum. With the sixty eighth pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Dwan Smoot d N Illinois. What's the past rushing? There's spash rusher right there.

Scobes all time leading point score in Jaguar history were when I when I asked you about Smoot, Dwayne Smoot defensive in Illinois, I kind of got that look that was like, oh okay, well, okay, let's talk about some of the past rushers are still available. Licen bash him Rivers. Yeah. I don't think any of us like Smoot over those three right, No, No, no, no, not at all. I think you guys like Smoot maybe a little bit more than I did. Still, I think we're all surprised on

third round. We hadn't been third round on our on our one oh five three board, but just that the player is still a player. Yeah, the problem is because ran out of defensive ends. Yeah to put anywhere, Yeah, you got bash him. And look, I mentioned this before. Derek Rivers was one of my favorite players in the fall. I loved him when I was watching him at Young Sound State, and then the hype just got way out of hand, I thought, and I had to hand off

the keys of that bandwagon. Yeah, but I'm still surprise should be off the board by this point. It's this small school thing hurt him there probably, Yeah, I mean, I think his struggles verus to run. I think that's really the big thing with him. I think hopefully he goes to a three to four team that I think that would suit him the best. Yeah. We talked about, you know, in our again in our mock that we

did for on Wednesday before the draft. We we we passed, uh we passed an opportunity to draft him at sixty and uh, you know, and then we were gonna pick we picked passing on at ninety two and so uh you know. Yeah, it's a little bit surprising that that Rivers and Basham both are still on the board. If you're talking about defensive ends. It's a little bit surprising too that, you know, let's let's talk about this to

another group. You know, we really Smith Schuster went, but we hadn't had a receiver if I'm not mistaken, And and now the Rams are the Rams selection, but we haven't had a receiver ghost since Zay Jones went early in the seventh round selection. So here we go. Let's see if the Rams please welcome from Oregon State University running back Stephen Jackson can't recognize the dress with the sixty and next picked the two thousand and seven teen

NFL's raft, the Los Angeles Rams Cooper Cup receiver. Eastern watches it a Cooper Cup. Yeah, that was like this we're giving. What we're doing here is we're giving my guy, or I guess our guy for some of us here, Jared Goff, whose early returns aren't great, we'll get. What we're giving him here is outlets to throw the ball quickly, Put Cooper Cup in the slot, let him create some quick separation and get the ball out. They already drafted Jerald Everett, the tight end who can do some work

downfield as a past catcher, and look Cooper. Cup's not a blazer. He's not going to create down the field. He'll catch every single ball though, that's it. Well, he creates separation with sort of shifting acceptive that there's an ens of shiftiness to the round. And that's why I think he's a slot player only I don't. I don't love him on the outside, but you put him in the slot. The way he can manipulate coverages, find those open spaces and zone. I mean, there's a reason this

guy was so productive. And we can talk about the FCS level and level of competition. Watch up against the four PAC twelve opponents on his schedule. Yea, those numbers are pretty oppressive. Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, the guy's just as a football player, it really is, and it's in his blood, his grandfather, his dad. I mean, I think he's going to be a very productive pro. He might not be uh, you know, an All Pro, but he'll be a very productive pro. And I love

that Jared Goff is getting some help. I think that's going to be a fun connection to watch, you know. I think, uh, he's an easy guy to kind of uh maybe not be high on because of the red field he played, on. Some really didn't like that bit, did you. I didn't like the red on red. Why are we wearing red jerseys on the red field? I don't remind a camouflage from a little bit. Huh as that strategy, I don't get it. Uh So Cooper kemp On like a lot, I mean, I like a little bit.

That's I mean. He was one of myur He was on our third round board, on our one uh five three at the fan board, right yeah, looking at all this, you did mention wide receivers God one Hansen, uh Isaiah Ford. You see, That's what I was trying to get to. I thought that I thought the quality of the of the second round, the second round wide receiver was pretty good. And and and then all of a sudden, now we're getting into the third round, and these guys are starting

to get picked instead of being second round players. Uh, you know, teams are starting to grab them in the in the third round. We'll probably look back at this draft a couple of years from well, we gotta pick here from Minnesota. Minnesota is now on the podium selection. But they made a train from the University of Maryland. Free Safety made you wams with the seventieth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Pat

f Line, center, Ohio staring pick the good players. Now we're cooking, and l finds a player who can he guard our center. Yeah, and he can start tomorrow. Yeah he can't. And the Vikings needed help there. So it's a heck of a pick there, you know. I tell you what, though I liked him a lot, to me, it's gonna sound funny. I saw a little of I saw a little bit of Travis Frederick in this guy. And and because he didn't run a very he doesn't have great foot speed or he's not a guy that's

gonna run a great forty time. But you watch him play, and you watch him pull. He stays on his feet, he knows how to play with leverage, he's strong, he finished his blocks. There's a lot of criticisms of what happened with when Travis Frederick was taken that, oh man, he's a bad workout guy, not a high bencher, all these things. This Pat f Line, you talk about a guy who plays guard, he plays center. He's gonna cook. He's a to me, he's a plug and play player.

He because I love the toughness with the kid. I love the leverage good, I love his ability to stay on his feet. Absolutely right to the Vikings. They don't have a first round pick. Yeah, so far they drafted Dalvin Cook and poundaff Line. Yeah, it's a heck of a haul for not picking in the first round the show.

That's what you expect as big ten lineman though, real technical, good hand placement, good hands, always in control of their game and now opening up holes for Dalvin Cook right in Minnesota's a really really good job by Minnesota in a game. He was a starter at guard before he moved to center. He's made a ton of starts. Yeah he can. He can realistically play either or Okay, so that means uh, Pat f Line, he goes to the Minnesota Vikings. That puts the Los Angeles Chargers on the

clock at pick three seventy one. Uh the kt I'm sorry, you give an idea with the Chargers? Uh? Yeah, the Chargers so far they went with Mike Williams in the first round, and then they also added some uh some offense as well with their second pick in a Forrest Lamp at guard. There you go, so help Philip Rivers out. Yeah, help Philip Rivers out here. So let's see what in fact the Los Angeles Chargers do. Uh, you know we mentioned this. I think there's some teams now that and

this is something I'm gonna throw out. Some of these teams that have veteran quarterbacks, with maybe the exception of the Giants, teams that are having to think about replace their quarterback down the line. Get your offensive line right. You know, we've seen that now get you know, if you're a team. And to me, the Chargers fall into

that group. When you when you talk about adding Forrest Lamp, you know, figure out a way to help your quarterback currently, but figure out a way to to make you know, to make your guy when you transition to the young quarterback, to make it a smoother chance. I think we've seen that with the Cowboys do it different than the other LA team. You know, where you get your quarterback and you put him in to crap right like here, if you can build up you know, resources around him, it

makes an easier transition. Yeah. I think that's what definitely what they're in the process of doing. Yeah, I think that you know that you've got to the one thing that Cowboys have shown is that you know, you get your offensive line right and you have ability to run the football. You know you could you can help your quarterback.

You could help him a ton. And I don't think that Dak Prescott would have had the type of season he had if it wasn't for the offensive line and then also though for Ezekiel Elliott being that running back. So we are waiting for the Charger's pick. It is in at three seventy one. We're just waiting for Troy Vincent to make his way to the podium and uh

and and deliver that pick. So um, I mean there's like this is this is really fun because I mean, look, we're still twenty picks away from when the Cowboys picked right. But I'm looking at my board and he's got a lot of names still out there floating around, names that you quite frankly thought wouldn't be there at this point. You mentioned Derek Rivers earlier, Terrell Basham from Ohio. Um, you know, I Carl Lawson's kind of a kind of a shot. Yeah, it must be. And you know we

were talking about that Dane. I mean we had him on our board in the first round. Uh, you know with him, and you know we were talking about like Brandy Graham. That's kind of the comparison. You know, I feel like you're gonna get a high motor, high effort short of what's does he have a medical because I never I never got the feeling that he was a guy that had had a medical condition. Well than the NFL's wrong to this point, he's better than the seventy

seventieth best player in this drap I get it. I'll go ahead, Dane. No, the medicals are are tough because look, he missed parts of two seasons with hip issue and ACLU. The biggest issue might be just short arms, and we know how the NFL does not lay short arms, especially in the pass Russia. Let's go to the podium and

fren to Los Angeles Charger selection. Please welcome from Georgia Tech outside linebacker Jeremiah attached you with the seventy first pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Los Angeles started to select Dan Phoenie Gardens. Now there you go, Oh, look at them. Go right now. If you look at the Dane, I'll let you get to Jeff. The one oh five three board Dawkins has gone. Now, Phoenie's gone. Lamp went earlier though. We had a Dawkins Phoenie Lamp though, poet.

But they got two of our guys in the second round, right there. Yeah, the third round value here with a second round player. Yeah. For me watching Phoenie play, and first of all, I think, to me, they took two of the three best maybe offensive lineman in this draft. Obviously you get a little more value at tackle, and we liked ram Chick. But when you talk about Forest Lamp, you talk about Dan Foenie, you're talking about the third round.

You're talking about step in starters. And to me, I think Foenie's going to be a good starter in the NFL. You watch him play. We saw him play some some guard, some tackle. I thought, you play him at guard. He looks better in that sort of in the phone booth. I like the way that he sort of was able to jolt guys out a hold of him. You can tell that he works hard. You see how smart he is on combination blocks, helping on one guy and then getting to the second level to clean up and keep helping.

I thought I saw a really intelligent, solid player when we watched Dan Foenie, the offensive lineman out of Indiana. I think it's a really good pick at that spot. I thought as one shining moment for me is when Taco tried to work to spin move on him and yeah, shut it down. Yeah you're not getting in here. What are you doing right now? Yeah? Tacos are guy telling you? How good Dan Foenie is? Yeah? If you like yeah, if you like it, how good Taco is? This is

a pick. This this was originally the pick that belonged to the New England Patriots. This has been the Patriots first pick. Patriots are gonna trade out, and they traded They trade it out. They moved back. Now Tennessee is the Titans are on the clock. We're waiting for the selection. Troy Vincent's at the podium. Diversity of Southern California defensive tackle Darrell Casey. Pretty good little player there, brought us.

He was a seventy second pick in the two thousand in the NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select Taiwan Taylor, receiver Western Kentucky's good, good player. All right, talk about him a little bit, Jeff, But let me get the notes up. Because the first thing that popped into my head is that is a good, good place. He's a big play threat. He averaged seventeen yards per catch each of the last three years. Yeah, I mean forty one touchdowns receiving touchdowns over his career. That's top ten in

FBS history. I mean he was he benefited from the Western Kentucky pass attack at high volume targets, but he took advantage of those and he didn't look out of place against Alabama against some of the bigger team competition they faced. I thought that, and I thought that was one of the big things with him. Because we talk about Forrest Lamp playing against Alabama, I think for Taywan Taylor,

it's sort of the same thing. You talk about ninety eight catches, seventeen hundred yards and seventeen touchdowns, but then you watch him play and see how he does it for a littler guy. I think he can catch the ball away from his body. He's got easy hands. When you watch him stopping at the top of routes, it's immediate, it's really good, and he's not easy to bring down after the catch. I think there's some toughness there. You see him get open on all levels of a defense.

You see him track of football. I liked a lot of excellent hands, working the sideline and getting a foot down where a lot of guys won't. I think he saw that some of that from him. I think that's another really good pick here in the third round. What I like most about him Everything he does is quick. Yeah, everything yeah from yeah, with his routes, his releases at the stem, even when he plucks, I mean, he puts the football away and he gets going, so he's always

looking to create after the catch. He's not a possession guy. He's more than that. Not the biggest guy we got since Bengals. Yeah, you're right, he's not the biggest. Sie Let's go the Bengals on the pocket from Duke University linebacker fcent Ray. With the seventy third pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Jordan Willis Kansas State. So John Ross, Joe Mixon and Jordan Willis for Cincinnati. They're having a hank of a draft. Yeah,

Jordan Willis at this point in the draft. I know you watched Jordan Willison's the guy who had double digit sacks at Kansas State. But then when he got to to the combine, I think he blew us all away. Yeah I didn't. I didn't the three we didn't see that. I did not. I did not see those measurables coming

in terms of the times that he put up. So you wondered, how far is that gonna push him up the board because we thought he was what a sort of a third round player, and to see him still get picked at that spot actually a little bit surprising to me. I thought he might have elevated himself with some NFL teams with that workout, because you look at three cone times, you look at explosion, the ten yards split, and you wonder if somebody is going to look at

that and kind of push him up their board. But they didn't, and he finds himself here in the third round, where that's a pretty good value because if at least his potential with that athleticism. Now, what point are we on Jake butt watch for the Cowboys. I'll take him at what point? I know they didn't bring him in for a top thirty visit. I know I'll take him.

But listen, we know this team likes tight end. Yeah, and the medical and from what I understand there, people say, don't bet against this guy being ready for the season. Oh no, it was a clean aca. Yeah, don't be don't bet it. Don't bet against him. So and it's popular now to do when you pick a tight end. They call Evan Ingram a tight end. He's not. Yeah, it's popular now with these tight ends. Oj Howard runs really well. David and Joku run is really well. And

Jake Butts he's not that kind of player. He's not gonna go out there and run a four or five. But what he is I think is a tight end that understands route running, that can do. You know, you watch a guy that knows how to stem guys, knows how to get a little bit of separation and catch the football. To me, it's it's it's almost kind of old school. Maybe not that sort of blocker that you would dream of, but maybe functional as a blocker that

just gets it. He gets how to play the position, He understands how to get open and make a target for his quarterback at ninety two. I know you got other things you need. But if they if they want about that tight end, I got no problem with it. Yeah, but Xavier Woods is our guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You got him slotted in there. If Jake Butts at ninety two, you gotta take him, have to, I mean at that value until Fabian More's at ninety two. Well yeah,

I mean he started. Now we're power ranking the red shirt situations here. If you start talking about you know, Moreau and then button all that. Desmond Kings still on the board too, guys. Yeah, my favorite football player in that. I love Desmond King myself, and I you know, I understand what ja You know. I asked a scout here way way way early about about Jake Butt and he was like, yeah, a lot of crossing routes, a lot of crossing routes. You know, remember you watch the tape.

It's like you know with with horrorball on those guys, it's a it is. It's a lot of rub routes, a lot of underneath stuff. He got hurt on a play in the game, going down the field, game in a bowl game, so you know, I don't know, I mean always the scouts when they when they when they make that quick comment, yeah, he's got runs a lot

of underneath stuff. You know, runs a lot you know, but but yeah, I don't think See, I don't think you could discount his ability because if he doesn't get hurt, he's going he's going into He's going to late one in the second round, don't you think. And it's not it's not your fault what your offense has you do. Otherwise, are we gonna knock O. J. Howard for the amount of opportunities that he got, Zay Jones for the fact

that they never went deep for Jake. But I actually have it in my notes because when he did go vertically. This is a guy that just understands how to get open. He has a guy behind him that he can't see, and he still understands to jab him whichever way. He can't even see the guy. He's not setting up a guy in front of him. He just knows where guys are on the field and what he can do to create more space for himself. I think he's better than

he's getting credit for. If you're saying that it's kind of pick plays getting him open, and he's not great in anyone area. He's just he's pretty good across the board. Yeah, you can win with those stubs. You need those types of guys in your roster, and especially if you give it ninety two. Yeah, and and everything that I've heard on the medical side of it was very very very positive,

very positive. So that's the fun part there. Though. Again we're in the seventies now and we are looking in a draft and when people pick guys were like, yep, step in starter, step in starter. And we're in the seventies. It's the deepest draft I've seen. Now, it's only four years, but Dane or Brian comparing to you know how long you guys have been at this. When's the last time you saw something like this? Because I'm staring at step

in starters on a board in the seven. Yeah, that's still we got the pity of the pick right now. We got the Ravens on the podium with the four in the twenty seventeen the NFL Draft, the newest member to the Baltimore Ravens family. We select Chris Wormley, defensive tackle from Michigan. Chris Wormley. Obviously you have the connection with them. I love Chris Wormley. I think he's he's

that traditional base end four three three four. Uh. He tested really well, but I don't think he's much of a pass rush, So that's not where he's Yeah, he's gonna play against that run. He's gonna he's gonna play a five technique head up right. Absolutely, So this is it's a solid pick. Yeah. And there's a connection too. They were talking about that you talk about the brother to the brother right there Ravens and the and the Michigan Wolverine. So obviously they knew a lot about Chris

Wormley and uh and what he is ability is. I totally agree with you about about him and his you know, playing that head up five technique extend hand. I'm on, people, get to the football. What Jeff was saying about how the depth of this class and how these players are like the fact that I'm looking at these teams, looking at the halls they're getting, it's hard to pick true winners because you're looking at this team wants three starters. Yeah,

this team three starters. Like it's gonna be hard to pick winners from this draft because most of these teams through three rounds, we're almost you know, halfway through the third are picking very good players because that's what's available in this draft class, and so eager to see who's as we get closer to ninety two. Who could still be left? Well here the Falcons there picks seventy five and they're about to make a selection to announce the

Atlanta Falcon selection. Please well Atlantis man of the Year punner Matt Bosher and former running back Gerald Riggs. Grig a good player, K, I believe you. And the two seventeen NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcon selects Duke Riley. Jeff, there's the pick. That's the guy, Tommy Devin Trop a man with good hair. Hold on a second, who picked him? Atlanta?

Atlanta pol the same trend. So Dane and I every time we talk about Duke Riley, Yeah what I what I told Dane, at least in my eyes, I said, Dion Jones, the LSU linebackers, I went to Atlanta, I believe in the second round list, Yeah, I said, Dean Jones was good, went to the NFL and he helped the Falcons a lot, and look where they ended up. And I think to me, Duke Riley is a better player on tape and now here you are in the third round. And he's followed Dion Jones footsteps every literally

every step of his career. And now they're gonna go play together their special teams the first three years. They're both from New Orleans. They both followed the same trajectory at LS the seniors and turned themselves into high draft picks, both Day two picks, both going to Atlanta. And we welcome back David Hellmant some duties on Dallas Cowboys dot com. You are the LSU guys. Talk talk a little about it. You can, no, no, you got him ahead. Talk about

Duke Riley. You know what it's I mean, we just set that up. But it's funny because like I learned my lesson from Dion Jones because we always were hard. We're hard on the LS you guys, because we don't want to sound like Homer's. Duke Riley is just fun to watch. And yeah, I mean he didn't really earn a big role in that defense until he was a senior, and he played like gang Bus. Here's the Saints selection at seventy six. Select alex ANZELONEI, linebacker Florida. Okay, Dave,

finish up. We'll get to Alice and keep talking about the better line. He just he's he's seeking missile like he's not and just like Deon Jones, Like he's not impressive in the like he's not like going to get off the bus and wow you in terms of his stature. But he just gets to the ball and hits stuff a lot. And you know, you talk about like the Alabama linebackers who hurt people. He's maybe not as impressive as like a Ruben Foster and that hard stand up

most Scarborough in a hole. I just love he just he just sniffs it out and gets there. He could run. That's the thing I love about him is a fact he's a football. He's gone and he makes it hard for the blockers to get to him because he's a step or two ahead. You know, he puts blockers behind the way he plays. You watch Zach Cunninghammer somebody play the Vanderbilt linebacker, and it's natural strength. It's kind of like extend get off. With Duke Riley. It's more like

I'm gonna find a way around you. There'd be some content. I'm not gonna let you hit. I'm gonna be a direct take on, but I'm gonna find a way around or through you to the ball. I love Duke Riley. That's what for that spot to be drafted for me. That's one of the best value picks so far. Oh, Duke Riley. He goes to the Atlanta Falcons, who again already had where was a second round great on your guys, Duke Riley was the second round grade? Yeah, same here. I had a forty two overall on my board, so

a great value. Okay. So now we'll go to the podium, and it looks like Carolina. It was one of my favorite to Carolina Panthers or selection. Please welcome from the you tight end Gray Golds looks like the blonde guy from school Scooby Doo Shaggy With twenty seventeen, the Carolina Panthers select day Shawn Hall DM great pick for them, Day Shawn Hall. I told you he was gonna go higher than he should, just because when you look at

the length, you look at the raw measurables. That's that's what the NFL teams like ahead of Bash, him, ahead of Lawson. Okay, and that's insanity. I what I know, y'all don't like him whatever. But and Dane, this it's fitting because this is the last thing you said before I left. But I love Carolina's draft right now. Yeah, like there. I mean, besides this pick, I like it. I liked it. I don't mind like this pick. Do

you like? Do you like Hall? Get like? I am the guy that's gonna stand up for the guys that y'all are crapping on. That's what I did, Big Coco, that's I go ahead, you're the expert. I'm trying to help you. My biggest issue with Dashawn oh you have a voice here? No, no, no, but I want to hear Dane's my biggest issue with Dashawn Hall. Miles Garrett's

on the other side of you. You you better clean up when Miles Garrett's getting the double triple teams all the attention and Dashawn Hall on the other side at left end had four and a half sacks. I need more from you. Don't you think that he's going to a situation where there will be guys who can take the pressure off him though, Carolina, Yeah, A Peppers is forty years old. Peppers is there assure on him? At

at M he's still they just resigned Kwan Short. I mean, I know he's not an end, but you got another guy that a line has to focus on. I'll be surprised if we see a lot of Dayshawn Hall's a rookie, I really will I think this is a I mean, this is a measurables pick. This is something that you hope he can develop into. Uh you know what you want him to be to justify a pick this early ahead of And again it's not just Dashawn Hall, it's Derek Rivers is still around. Tim Williams, it's still around.

Take we take a look at the How damn that we're back at the Ford Center war room him Williams still being around. Yeah, well they'll see we'll see what you know, Yeah, we'll see about Tim Williams. Here. Baltimore is back on the clock with picks. Good players. Ozzie Ozzie Knewso my my buddy who saves me Alabama my nightmare. But he uh, Ozzie Knews who saves me a seat all the time at the at the Senior Bowl. I appreciate. I don't know why he's so nice to Yes, he's

really nice to me. But anyway, he's about to be on the Uh, well he is on the clock his picks in. Would you be surprised here if he took Tim Williams. No, not at all Alabama. I mean that that makes sense? Does I mean you brought the name up. I'm just playing off what you're saying. At well, we talk about Okay, if he's cleaning off the field, he's a first round pick. It was our second pass rusher on the board. Yeah, right, so second one. We're talking

here in the third round, AT's pick seventy eight. I mean, at some point, you know, similar to Randy Gregory, all the issues, but at some point he's worth it. And if it turns out great, Okay, if it doesn't, well, you know, you live with it. And here in the third round at seventy eight, this is something that the Ravens might be willing to pull the trigger. Yeah. I think Ozzie knew soothing it just makes too much sense. I mean, we felt like the Cincinnati. We had a

feeling about the Cincinnati taking the Runner. I have a feeling that this is gonna it's gonna be. It's gotta be Tim Weeves Well, and they love their front seven guys in Baltimore. Yeah, And unless I have this wrong, would this mean they had taken Chris Wormley, Tias Bowser, and then potentially now another outside linebacker d ND type of guy that do. That's stacking up a front set while some teams are building in their safety. Back here, build your front set well, and it's you look at

that front seven. Elvis Dumerville's gone, Terrell Suggs is on the back nine, approaching eighteen. There you go nine, Yeah, the back nine. Uh. And then you look at Timmy journing in no longer there. I mean, they're they're doing it the right way, Sweet Timmy. All right, let's see who in fact the Ravens. They haven't gone to the podium yet. We owe our listeners out there a little break. We will I want to get this pick for the Ravens,

and then we'll come back to it. Looking at the Ford Center war room cam right now, Jerry Jones jacket off, but not in the room. Stephen Jones, he's got the tie loose. And Will McClay everybody's talking. I like the fact this is where everybody's out of the room, and this is where you get a lot of good things done. Right here, guys kind of talking to each other and making a plan, kind of formulating. I see Will is explaining something to Jason Garrett. Maybe maybe the direction, Maybe

he got some intelligence from his pro guys. That's what they kind of give you an idea of Jason. This guy's name is Fabian Moreau. We're gonna pick him here in a minute. Yeah, you know it's the picks have been going pretty fast and furious here, so we'll see if if in fact that holds true. Again, the Ravens are on the clock. They this will be pick seventy eight. The Cowboys are sitting at pick ninety two, so TEAMUS

fifteen spots, yeah, team minus fifteen spots. I like to when he gets close to the fourteen, I like to start talking about what the Cowboys are doing. We I feel like we do a pretty good job of talking about everybody's draft. But now you start getting to the points where you know what guys are left on these board. We're gonna be rolling through some of the names we were dreaming of at sixty. Yeah. Well here we go, and with the Ravens pick, we'll see. All right, let's

listen in. Hey. First of all, I just want to say thank you to Philly the NFL for allowing me to come out here. The Shawn mcgratitude to the fans. So it's been awesome. With the seventy eighth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the newest member of the Baltimore Ravens family, the Ravens pick select Tim Williams. There, it just made way too much sense, didn't it. Yeah, Azzi he is. He was an All American. He was, you know, all American in Alabama. He has deep ties

to the state of Alabama. Actually, I think he if he ran for governor of the state of Alabama, I think he would win. But yeah, he has a he's already I believe he picked Morland Humphrey too. That's gonna okay. Yeah, and Jeff touched on that a minute ago with what they've done in the later rounds. But so so, so far their draft is Marlon Humphrey, Tias Bowser, Chris Wormley, and now Tim Williams. But you go back to Baltimore

Ravens football. Yeah, if if Tim Williams can stay on the field, which that's the only reason he wasn't a first round pick, Dane, It's that, fairs the only reason he wasn't a first round pick. Again, Hey, maybe it won't work out. It didn't work out with Randy Gregory but if it does, this defense looks pretty freaking terrifying. Yeah, then again, Ozzie knew some picking Tim Williams. We thought we had a first round grade. Again, we grade the

board on the tape. We don't have you know, we don't make it a deal with the red flags and all that, but you have to I mean, but yeah, but we just Brian doesn't. Brian and Jeff just want players. Let's let's keep it on the field though. My other concern with Tim Williams. Yeah, he only played twenty eight snaps per game. That was but you know he had two starts in his career. Sure, Nick Saban didn't completely

trust him versus the run. Yeah, that doesn't mean he can't get better and be a better run player, but he was not trusted with that type of responsibility. So you know, he's going to be a pass rush specialist as a rookie, and you know, we'll see how he develops. If you can turn into an every down player, but that's no guarantee prediction. He will lead the preseason, all the preseason players for sacks. I guarantee he was gonna

be like the Randy Gregor sack a game guy. Well, he's gonna he's gonna end up with, you know, four and a half sacks, five and a half sacks and all the games he getting to play in. So we'll see, well, we'll see it, but we'll see how he does when the when the varsity starts out there. So Tim Williams University of alabamainteen sixty college football. The varsity. Yeah, the varsity. I'm in nineteen sixties. Guy, Uh we got Now we

go from Baltimore. The New York Jets are there at the podium taking please welcome from Alburton University fullback Tony Richardson. Pretty good little player there, brought us, yeah, the league. In the twenty seventeen NFL Draft from New York Jet Et Jets select our Darius Stewart, receiver Alabama. Like that pick, You like that pick? Like that pick? He was, uh, the top players available on my board. I think he'd be Morton just a receiver too. He's kind of a

can Jet sweep him, you can use. He was a quarterback in high school, so he could do a little bit of everything, including throw the ball. So it reminds me a little bit of a smaller Muhammad Sanu when he's coming out of Rutgers. He can do a little bit of everything, can develop into an impact receiver. I think there's a better receiver on the board, Chad Hanson. But our Darius Stewart was right there for me in

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We are now. Washington just made their selection. Washington just took quarterback from UCLA Fabian Moreau. Brian, does it hurt to see your pet cat of three months go to a division rival? I get to see him play twice a year now, so that'll be interesting. So Fabian Moreau is the selection at three eighty one, but by the washing redskinstil you get the pick before that, Dave too. The Indianapolis Colts at three eighty took Terrell Basham defensive end from Ohio. Dane fill me in on Basham's pick

at Indianapolis, Like, how you in bash him. It's not Bashim, it's bash him, And it's perfect name for a defensive entashm uh, you know, the mac defensive player of the Year, kind of like Taco. I really like how he got better every year and you really did see that with bash Him and Eat. Talk about the Colts and Chris Ballard having a nice, nice draft so far, another one he cleans up with a second round player in the third. So but again we talked about the depth of this draft.

The fact that you get trill Basham in the third round, in mid third round, that's a that's a heck of a pick. Jeff, give me a little insight on Fabian Moreau. You see, Oh, I almost feel like it would be wrong for me to give you insight on Fabian Moreau because he's your guy. I feel like this is a youth thing. I'd tell you. The favorite thing that I saw from him is so many corners. In college football, one of the easiest things for college receivers to do to get open is to run a drag route. Yeah,

run a drag run. Something that breaks inside. But Fabian Moreau is just blazing speed. You know, the ability that when a guy's running all the way across the field, you just don't see college corners able to track that down. And with Fabian Moreau, you see it. That guy is scooting. Yeah, you're absolutely right. I had lunch with Dave Campo, who's doing TV work for us, over on the other side of the building, and I asked, David said, Dave, you

know this is how I evaluate cornerbacks. I go, you're gonna laugh at me for this, He says, nobody got I'd said, if a cornerback, if a receiver runs a route that goes all the way across the field and he's in position and knock the football away and there's no separation and he doesn't get called for pass interference, that's a pretty good cornerback. He says. I Am not going to laugh at you at all. That's exactly where you need to And that's just to reiterate the point

that she's made. But yeah, it's not huge route trees in the in college football. But you have to deal with a lot of quickness, you have to deal with a lot of speed. You gotta deal with a lot of jump balls. I think Fabin Brow was that kind of guy. I felt like that maybe at sixty that they would have taken a shot at him. But here the Redskins at eighty one get the opportunity. So, like I said, or I'll see him play twice a year now. Who knows. If Woosia was off the board, maybe Moreau

was there and guy, yeah, maybe so very much. Look, he was my top player available. So it's a good, very good pick by the Redskins, kind of resetting the board. Now, top three players from me, Chad Hanson the wide receiver from cal Carl Lawson's pass rusher from Auburn still out there, George Lewis the quarter from Michigan, Cordella tink Tankerusly the corner from Clemson, and then Chris Godwin, the wide receiver from Penn. Stay. Yeah, I think somebody's gonna get a

really good player in that Chris Godwin right there. I bet he's still here. Yeah, well, you know, I just he is a I go back to those second round receivers and they just weren't, you know, they weren't coming off the board like I thought. But now you've got some value here in the third round. Okay, so uh as as we reset h Denver's now on the clock, we got Washingtons pick. Yeah, it was moreau Denver's on

the clock, and then New England will be next. That's a pick at eighty three that they got with the Tennessee trade, So this will be the first time at three eighty three, the Super the finning Super Bowl champs will get to make a pick, and then after them we'll be uh, Tampa Bay on the clock. So we're working our way down the board once again. Dallas picking at ninety two, we would be ten picks away with the Broncos here picking at eighty two. Broncos have another

pick coming in this round, one hundred and one overall. Yeah, so Kent was he was excited about the fact that the Broncos we're on the and a guy with a Broncho head on his hat come on as as a very exciting but yeah, that's a just war room again from the Ford Center war room cam. Just everybody looking very calm right there. Uh you know Stephen Jones, Uh look at that yeah, hearts Yeah, he's looking at exactly exactly.

So you keep talking tight end, tight end, let's go to the podium and get the deer Broncos picks of a common draft to announ seed Broncos selection. Please welcome from Missouri Southern State University. Undrafted free agent wide receiver, two time Super Bowl champion Rod Smith. Yeah, drafted, I know that guy. Yeah, really, I know Rod Smith. Pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft the demo Bronco select Carlos Henderson, receiver from Louisiana Tech. Yeah. I mean for

every pick, but that's a good pick. Yeah. I mean, all these players are just we really liked they think we think they could be impact players. Carlos Henderson. We talked about Tawan Taylor and uh, you know the big place he made Carlos Henderson the same type of deal. He's almost like a running back when he has the ball in his hands because he'll go through you. He's a powerful guy, really impressive what he could do deep. He's a return man. I know, Jeff, you you really

liked him. I loved him. I think it's it's pretty amazing when you're five foot ten and when your team gets to the goal line, you are the fade option. Now he's that's not necessarily where he wins. You don't necessarily see him come down with all the contested balls. But to your point, after the catch, he's if he's not the best receiver in this draft, after the catch, he's one of them. And it's not because he's d D.

Westbrook lightning quick gonna make you necessarily miss. It's just that a little bit of burst and balance and toughness where it's just the first guy doesn't tackle Carlos Henderson. There's a little bit of Jarvis Landry to him there, except that he also ran a four four at the combine. He was one of my favorite players. I'm not ashamed it him is a top thirty player. Tony Roma's gonna love him, Carlos Henderson, Sorry, Tony Romans gonna love it

all right. Jerry Jones has returned to the fourth Center, a war room the Patriots, and welcome Build Belichick to them. Yeah, the Patriots. Yeah, let's welcome to New England. Patriots. As if they need any help with all this stuff they've done. Here we are in the third round. This will be their first pick. They made a couple of trade backs. This is a pick that originally was owned by the

Tennessee Titans. The Titans took this from the UH. They got the the New England got this pick from Carolina, and then the pick was sent from New England to Tennessee in a trade. So now the UH the New England Patriots around the clock. So we welcome him, you know, super Bowl defending champ. This to me is about whoever the best player on the board is. You know who is? Who is? You know whoever your best player on the board is. You know I just gave my top five

and I skipped one state. Yeah, see that's what you've got. New England's top need is what as rush? Yeah, pastors, Well let's see Patriots, welcome to the draft. Couple defensive the New England Patriots selection. Please welcome from the University of Iowa two thousand and eight Hall of Fame and Duckbee linebacker Andre Tippett. Pretty good player in this day on Andre Harris fifty five with third pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the New England Patriots,

sir right, Derek Rivers? Yeah, why do you mention Derek Rivers name before there? Just cross that off my player? I just know what? How did I just missed him on my list, Derek Rivers, And here's the guy I keep going back to our mock draft. We had a situation at sixty where we passed on Derek Rivers, if you remember, and we went uh we went ahead and took the safety Williams. But uh uh, talk a little bit, Katie,

get a little bit on, a little bit on Derek. Yeah, Derrek Rivers is a guy who I think I believe in my list was my forty first best player in my time. We can all agree, was not the eighty third best players, not the eighty third best player. I don't know. Maybe what was scaring people you mentioned earlier. Maybe it was, you know, the way he plays against the run. Was it the small school I aspect at Youngstown State. He's got the bend and the link that you kind of want. Sixty three and a half two

fifty three, Cone was under seven. Yeah, it's really good. You know, sometimes he would play you kind of they'd have him two gaping, which made it kind of hard to evaluate. But for me, you could see a guy who get the corner every once in a while, and you could see the intrigue that teams would have with him. Look at it. I don't know if he was some guy that's stepping in and getting you know, ten to twelve sacks for you, But I saw a really good,

you know, right defensive end here. And he's the guy who was hoping would be there at ninety two. Just in case, well, bet Tampa Bay now on the clock. This is pick eighty four, getting close to the Cowboys six away. Please welcome from UCLA linebacker Ryan Neasy. God bless what the eighty fourth pick in the two thousand and seventeen draft, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers proudly select Chris Godwin.

Wh so pumped, Holy cow So Tampa Bay is now DeShawn Jackson, Mike Evans, Godwin, O J Howard, Yeah, Jameis Winston Yeah, Okay yeah, big dudes, Wow, figure it out. Godwin is the best. He's the best. Stop me. If you've heard this before, He's the best contested ball catcher in this class, at least according to the numbers that prey Mike Williams over him in a contested ball situation.

But a guy that just comes down with it when guys are in his real estate and Mike Evans is already on the team, and Deshaun Jackson is already the deep threat and O. J. Howard is at tight end. How are you going to cover Tampa Bay? That's what you love about Chrissy Godwin is his ability to expand his catch radius and make the plays that a lot of receivers can't make with that length, his ability to high point and he has that late separation deep in

his route. A lot to like about Godwin. And then he goes out and runs a four four at the combine. I don't think we expected that. No, I don't think anybody expected him to run because you didn't always see a four or four. You said about you said about the contested catches. He kind of felt like, is this guy slow? You know? Is he is? He? Because he didn't really separate it exactly, but so he maybe as well.

Those guys said trained really well, like melofon Wu trained well for the combine, got his speed down and people are thinking this guy really fest But hey, you gotta have you know, the fact the kids playing in a warm weather city, high catch radius, you know, I mean the fact that he played at Penn State too. You know, those are the tough deals, man. Those guys have to play in cold weather and it'd be productive. And he's that guy. Did y'all did you even I might have

missed it? Did you even throw Doug Martin in there? The fact that he's coming back? No, No, that's okay. No, I'm not worried about running ball right now. I'm just saying, no, we don't have carries, we're not running the ball. That offense is scary. Yeah, we even spending the first three games. But hopefully you know he's got the off the field straightened out. And if he does when he comes back, Yeah, at that offense, that run game, and and Oj Howard

is not just a receiver, right, he can block. And Doug Martin is going to be seeing the lightest boxes in the NFL. Hey, Yeah, if you put all of those weapons on the field together, you got Oj at your tight end spot, you got de Seawan in the slot, you got Mike Evans and Godwin outside. We're going three wide receiver set. You can run the ball in Atlanta

is going. I got tack and Vic Beasley. So we're gonna get some pressure on who's who's happier right now, Cam Newton herd uh jamis went they're both pretty excited. They both Yeah, they both have to be really excited about the situation there for sure. Let's say so Chris Godwin snagging lapt he goes to Tampa Bay this, uh, New England is on the clock at pick eighty five, traded back in the Yeah, they like picking players, they like they like picking players, so they this is a

pick that originated in Detroit. So, uh, there's a connection right dame between the Detroit GM and UH and the New England Patriot. Write where Bob Quinn came from. Yeah, he rose through the ranks and became a gmcam in it and the Lions got them and yeah, it's uh, look, it's something that I think we've seen these these two teams make deals before. They did it last year. Might make an annual tradition, just do it every year with yeah, it just absolutely just find a way to to kind

of Okay, what can I do to help you there? Right? You know, I know you don't need any help, but you know, why don't you give me some help? Don't you say? Well, hey, and we didn't talk about the Patriots for yeah, you know the first eighties. Some picks and here we go We're gonna talk about them quite a bit here in the late second or third. I mean, you know, it's just funny how how how good this team already is and how good they're gonna get with

a player like Derek Rivers and whoever they take here. Yeah, secondary offensive line I'm going off of I'm going off of my guide from the great Dane Brugler here. But we team needs. Yeah, we got a couple of needs lined up here for the Patriots. You got cornerbacks, you got offensive tackle, you got center, you got tight end. What do the board? What's your board look like for those positions? I need to stay away from our cornerbacks here, Yeah,

that'd be great. That would be great. Tankerslely still out there, and stay away from Tankersley and stay away from Corn Elder and Jordan Lewis. What were the other needs you said? Offensive line? Yeah, a couple offensive line needs. We got offensive tackle here, I'm reading from Dane's notes for him. Yeah, left tackle Solder is in a contract year. They got nobody really there to replace him. So that's where we are. Gentlemen, who do you who do you have? Who do you have? Though?

At do you have any tackles left. I mean when the top tackles for me at Boden was the guy who was like the top guy right, Antonio Garcia, Roderick Johnson, Julian Davenport, Will Holden. I mean these are players that Antonio Garcia. This is right the range. I could see him going off the board. Let's see that's where at the podium. Pick eighty five, He's welcome from UCLA wide

receiver Matthew Slater. With the eighty fifth pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, New England Patriots select Antonio Garcia. There you go. Tackle from Troy makes sense. Yep, Kat, I'll go back to you on Antonio Garcia. Yeah, no, hold on, get the notes up all right, find all the notes here. Let's see. Only one guy can be an encyclopedia. Some of us have to hit control F and then go fight the guy and look at his notes. Well, aspire to be more like Dane Jeff. Everybody does Dave.

But if we all did it, then what would Dane do? He wouldn't need me anymore. Long arms, kind of thin guy six six um needs to be a little stronger. Yep, even kind of lunging quite a bit as well. Uh you could see him trying to play with his hands a little bit, but he has he was super gravvy. Uh those are my notes there. I thought maybe yeah, maybe, yeah, got a whole lot of good stuff to say. What

about that though, Dane? I mean, is he's light? Nate Solder though, didn't he with a tall thin Remember when Nate Soldier came out of Colorado? Right, yeah, he was like Yeah, we didn't think, oh he's not a place with any power, right. This guy's an athletic guy. He is. He moves very well and you saw that the Senior Bowl U. But he will get beat at times. A

little mechanical in his kickslide. Yeah, needs to get stronger, needs to get especially his bass, so he can, you know, put up with some bull rushers and Chiefs are coming to the podium. Yeah, let's see the Chiefs. So we were talking about Garcia. He went to the Newingham Patriots eighty five pick eighty six. Is Kansas City's you having? Nebraska two thousand and fifteen Hall of Fame and ductee guard Will Shield. That's a man that's a good player.

I remember, he's a good one. Yeah, you know he was real six pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Kareem Hunt runner runner. That Spencer wareld like that kind of makes sense some Tarik Hill. Yeah, like a Chiefs I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Jeff Kavanaugh here. Oh we're going Kareem Hunt. Notes, I control left it, I'm on you here, here we go. I got good week at the Senior Bowl. Yeah. Stone and linebackers and one on ones. Good lateral ability

to squeeze into holes. Decisive when he hits a hole. You can see ankle flexibility and balance. Able to adjust his running lane without losing speed, wiggle in the open field, kind of burrows through small holes. They run out of the shotgun. You see him able to spin out of leg tackles, keep that balance, smooth changer of direction and a jab step. Good feel for cutback lanes. Patient and decisive. That's notes of a runner you like. Can I just

give my favorite note about cream Hunt? Sure, he touched the ball eight hundred and fifty six times in college. He fumbled once oo once and he recovered it again. It was as a freshman cole Weather. Cole Weather League guys, I probably got this note from you. Then forty one catches, no drops or was that maybe I did find that somewhere else. Oh, I had forty one catches and he never dropped a pass. Very productive. He's West Toledo's all time leading rusher. I think he's number three in Mac

history in terms of rushing yards productive. Over his career, he averaged six point three yards per carry. I'd love the pick at this point. He's a complete back. Where did you go? I've lost myself? Yea, where did you go? Kansas City? The only the only back I had in front of him on my ranking, so my JP Ryan, Um, but I mean this is right where I thought Hunt should go. I've had a third round grade on him. This is this is good value. So am I crazy

for thinking he? I mean being pushed where for that spot? Oh? Yeah, he can do everything he can block, he can he can catch him out the backfield. He doesn't really have a weakness now he doesn't. We got a giant Gants on the Giants at the podium. Be an interesting pick to announce the New York Giants selection. Please welcome from the U linebacker Jesse Armsteady, Dallas Carter High School. Oh, I actually I got I got Jesse, no doubt, World

Champion New York Charts. Oh. He took a page at the two seventeen drop to New York Football World Champions like David Well quarterback California, Davis Webb. He said, David Webb, I think I don't know. It's okay. It's a third round. You're picking a quarterback, which means you're not expecting a lot out of him. It's the fourth round where you find the great quarterback. I'm so relieved that this guy went at a more reasonable like this is where he should go. I was just about to say that I

had a fourth round grade on him. I mean, this is late third is where he should have gone. Uh talking there was talking about first round, talking about top fifty early in the second round. I'm with you. I'm glad he went more towards what his value should be. And this is a player that succeeded. Uh. Jared goff Right, you know, came in and you know the same type

of issues. You know, a lot of one read routes. Uh, you know he didn't have to read coverage but when you look at the physical trade, a tall athletic kid, very big arm, and then you really like the football character. He's a junkie. He's gonna come in and you know he's gonna be in the film room. You know he's not going to be out worked. So if Davis's Webb does not make it at the NFL level, it won't be because of lack of effort or lack of it. Just you're wanting to be the best. So you know

from the Giants, this is a projection pick. This is something that down the road and he goes to a good situation, he's not going to have to see the field for the next two years. We got we got coaches in the Ford Center war room, gentlemen, we got rod Manonelli's back for a third trip. Is anybody surprised, not at all, not at all with what's on this board? Okay, well, the Giants just made the pick there, that's at three eighty seven. They take Davis Webb, that puts the Raiders

on the clock. Picks in at eighty eight. After the Raiders come the Houston Texans as again, the Ford Center war room cam at the we will get when the Cowboys get on the clock there below you below clock you below you blow, you blow. It's just it's two syllables, blow blow, do you blow? Clock? Right? Can we take this opportunity? Guy? I mean, we're we still got a few, but it's kind of rounding into shape of what's gonna be there? What are we thinking? What are y'all looking at? Oh?

I think you go back to the Cowboys visit list. I believe on the cornerback list, I see two guys standing and one of them, obviously I'm much higher on because I've been talking about him for about fifty picks now. Cordrea Tankersley, the cornerback out of Clemson, is still on the board. Shaquille Griffin, who I think we all like at a Central Florida that corner is another guy that's on that list, A safety. We love Xavier Woods. They're

from Louisiana Tech. So for me, I look at those three, maybe you throw in Jake Butt and I know he wasn't a visit, but for us, we're gonna throw in Desmond King. Yeah. I think those five names, I'd love to hear one of those five called Yeah. Everything he said is I think he just nailed it. Maybe I miss I'm not crazy, right, Carl Lawson is still available? Still no, no, are you if I got to make the pick? And that's I don't think that they would

do this. But are we in a situation where he has fallen so far that they say, okay, I just we don't. We don't they don't like his measurable I just looking at Mattieberflus, he's down there, he's the really the passing game coordinator, whatever the hell that they're they're really they're grooming him to be the defensive coordina. I think that's I think. And so he's in there right now, and I guarantee he's talking about he's talking about another city.

He's probably talking about a safety. I would think that they're probably talking about one of those safeties that they brought in. Is it as I was gonna say, Is it as easy as saying, these are the guys we brought in? Or did they expect You're trying to figure out if it's okay? Do you go tankers Lely or do you go? Uh? Do you go? Griffin is another guy that they brought in. Man, we need to keep

Tedrick Thompson in there too. It is a visit. I mean that's a little bit, a little bit of a reach, I would say, but we need to keep him in mind out. Yeah, now, tedder Thompson was a guy. I'm sorry, that's the guy that was telling me more we did do it? Tell me more on we weren't. We weren't exactly exactly. So I'm just staring him out there because he was on the visit list. Yeah, no, absolutely so.

Uh it's again it's defensive players. I mean, the offensive coaches are in their offices putting the golf ball on the rug and so, uh, I guess. And maybe Carl Lawson is not the greatest example because he probably doesn't fit their physical limitations for what they're looking for. But you know, we use this thirty visit list as such a guide post and it has obviously served us very well. That's they like to draft guys that they get to meet.

But let's say in the case of a Desmond King, Yeah, maybe they never thought he would be here at night? Has he fallen far enough? Are we to the point where maybe you take a guy that you didn't have on a visit because you never thought he'd be there? He's tough. I mean, that's I would not have ab I would have had him on the thirty visit list myself, Jake, but extent like, yeah, he's in that conversation too. I think that takes Jake Budd out of them. What you're

talking about there, I don't see anybody. Yeah, I was gonna say, there's no offense. I mean, I haven't looked over Jim Mauer. The he's over. He would be over to the right of Jerry Jones. I guess my main thing I wonder is, you know, how strictly do you stick to that thirty visit list? I mean, are you always the draft a guy that's on it, but it's a player that you know. And Jason Garrett talked about asking the question about those faces they love, Yeah, they

love having them in the building. There's no doubt about that. Yeah, I mean all I think every single one of their premium picks over the last three or four years has been a thirty visitor. Yeah. Okay, So let's see here the h blow clock. The Cowboys like say, the Raiders have made the Raiders are their pick. We're waiting on their pick. They're at eighty eight. The Cowboys are still at ninety two, so we're we're waiting on that a lot of again. The you Blow clock. I love that

you blow. You blow the Watch company beautiful watches by the way, My gosh, they brought them all into the on the phone now. So he's on the phone. Yeah, he's on the phone. So here's the Raiders pick at eighty eight. We got we got some delover. It's fine. You did on me for the second time. Hey, Reggie Jack, good job baby. Pick In two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Oak Clown Raiders seleg Eddie Venados defensive tacker UCLA tough guy. Man. He's a tough guy. He's not one

of these guys too that plays. He's just like a slugger inside guy. He's got some uh, he's got some ability to play outside the box, chase down the line of scrimmage. Got some strength to him as well. So Raiders take Eddie Vanderdoo's as their guy. Okay, activity in the Cowboy war room. Jerry Jones is on the phone. We got some delay where it pick number ninety which is Seattle. Actually pick eighty nine, which is Houston. So again all kinds of uh two different things going on

here with Jason Garrett. He's now talking to the players. Uh, we'll see in fact who in fact the Cowboys uh do select? Uh? It right? So who do you think the pick's gonna be? I mean, before you know, we the Cowboys? Yeah, Xavier would Davier was his name, Ikey coming back to him? Yeah, I like, actually too many corners. If Scandrick's still here, unless they really I'll take him because I'm I'm that much higher on them than as

it are left. So I'm gonna say tankers Lee even though I know that makes a real crowded corner room. It sets me up pretty darn good for the next five years. Really is bad thing. No, No, not a corner I just need corners. I'm not the scout. But I don't know that tankers Lee is like what they want to do. I just have agree with that. I agree, but I just think he's a good enough player that and he we keep talking about tankers lely on the visit and it just doesn't seem like they're going from

that direction. Here's the Texans selection at eighty nine. Linebacker Bryant Cushing with the eighty nine pick. In twenty seventeen NFL Draft, Houston Texans select Deonta Foreman, running back. All right, Deontay Foreman, got a little bit of a question, a medical question the Longhorns. Yeah, hey hook them, Yeah, a little medical question. Let's kind of restacked the board here. Okay,

my top three players right now. Chad Hanson the wide receiver from Cal Carl Lawson, and there's Jordan Lewis, the corner from Michigan. A corner we haven't talked about. We mentioned all these corners, uh Tankerously, we haven't mentioned Jordan Lewis. Joe bast We got our corner coach in here. Yeah, we got the corners. Do we have a handle on what's going on with Jordan Lewis's divestic violence? We don't sure. Yeah, they they might. Yeah, and that's kind of that's where

we are. Same thing, you know, the Gary on Connley situation. We don't know what the teams know, but if he's in consideration with this pick, then you would hope they know. Yeah, well absolutely, and actually you know what that you know, even before all that this that makes me think back to UH as far back as the Senior Bowl, Dan because I remember you talking about I love Jordan Lewis. Not only did you love him, but I just remember

how big it was. You said, what he weighed in at the arm length arth and his height too, right, Yeah, I mean he hit certain thresholds. Yeah, you want to see you know, and we know that's important to the cowboys, right exactly. You wanted to see over thirty one inch arms. You wanted to see him get over the five ten mark, and he did those things. Uh, you know, he's he's a player that you watch him, you don't see separation. So if you can get past the size, there's a

lot to like about him here. So okay, so the Seattle, okay, the the pick for the We got the Texans with eighty nine. That was deanti Foreman. Seattle is on the clock. Their picks in right there. It looks like they haven't announced it. That tick's gonna come up in just a minute. But uh, we we we've seen we've seen Joe Baker in the room. We've seen those guys uh all uh, we've seen them high fives all around stuff like that.

So uh it would be uh, I think would be shocked if it's not anybody other than a cornerback here, which we've handicapped what we thought the cornerbacks were gonna be. I mean Orlando Scandrick. Well, I don't know what that means for Orlando Scandrick, but what I'm thinking is, you know, all of a sudden, we talk about that corner position and and you know, oh, no, what are they gonna do in the long term? We had they don't have enough guys all of a sudden looks kind of stocked.

You got Anthony Brown here, you got already drafted Chitta a woozy a. Now you're probably drafting another cornerback no one. Carroll's on a three year deal, and all of I mean, all of a sudden, you got a pretty crowded room. I crowded young room for that matter. Yeah, so let's talk about a turn around. Yeah, the uh I mentioned Seattle. Like I say, we're at a commercial break right now with Seattle, Dallas has made their pick. TV's just uh, you know, a couple of picks behind right now, so

hopefully we will catch up. But we've we've talked about a bunch of different players, a bunch of cornerbacks, potential cornerbacks. So uh, you know, we'll uh, we'll see it if in fact, Dan, you you think it, you think it is Jordan Lewis. I think that'd be a home run pick. We talk about the top corners available. He is the top corner available. He's number forty five on my board. Yeah, you can get the forty fifth best player in this draft.

According and just in my opinion, right at you know this late in the draft, Oh my gosh, absolutely time you're talking about the height. What give me the arm? Lengked on on thirty one and five at one and then you hit the threshold for height. He was five ten and a quarter, right you want to see you know, I know it doesn't mean much or it seemed much, but if he was under five ten, worries you a little bit. Got over five ten, has the arm that you want, and what he can do in the I

mean it would talk about a woozier. What he could do in the nickel Jordan Lewis, he's the ideal nickelback. Yeah. I thought he deserved first round consideration before the recent arrest. Well let's see if they in fact go to ann Arbor once again. I mean, we're we're a couple of picks away again. TV is behind. We're trying to honor what they're we're doing. But the Cowboys, if you look at the in the Ford Center war room, Uh, they've

they've made their pick. They've been on the phone and uh and uh so here we go with the Uh. As I look at the board the Rams, the Rams have taken, it looks like John Johnson, the safety from Boston College, he would be at pick ninety one. Uh so Dallas now would be on that clock. Uh, let's see if they make the announcement right here. Uh, Seattle, somebody grabbed the Seattle it was actually it was shaq Griffin from from Central Florida. Okay, Shaquille Griffin then at

ninety goes to Seattle. Very talented cornerback Central Florida, like the size us over six foot, very quick. Uh you know, kind of a one of those guys that we talked about, these guys that played plays better when he plays on as opposed to off coverage. So uh, we'll see how he works out. But he is with the Seattle Seahawks,

very talented defense as we all know. So the Rams picks came in too on the TV at Rams picking at ninety one, right, and that's Jack say John Johnson from Boston College right there, so uh, you know, kind of I thought a little bit early right there, don't you, Dane with John Johnson going at ninety one from Boston College. Yeah, I have a fourth round grade on him, so you know I got him a fifth Yeah, corner safety, I think he has that position flex Uh you know, he's uh,

he played, he started at safety, went to corner. I think he showed that he could do both decent size, decent at wanted to see them make more plays and coverage. I see that enough. But you know, at this point, I think we all agree they're Xavier Woods some better players out there, but not too much of a reach. But I think we agree they're better players out there. Okay, well they the TV now is caught up, Dallas's pick is in, and I don't know if they're gonna go

to the podium or not. Maybe Drew Pearson will taunt everybody again in Philadelphia. That was that was it? More of that I was encouraging. Wwey was great, so h Drew Pearson is, well, we don't know, so we'll see. So so we'll see if if, if in fact, uh, let's see Brady Jay. Okay, Brad Sham just walked in and wrote, Brady James. Goat Brad Sham, so U he knew exactly. I knew somebody was gonna make the pick.

So let's see. They're they're interviewing a foreman right now on on the NFL network, so they've yet to announced the pick. They're holding it right now. We think we think it is Jordan Lewis, the cornerback from Michigan. Waiting for the official word right there, but we'll see if Okay, interesting story though about form it and you know herd ground, Yeah, heartbreaking story. But yeah, he's got a he's got some

there's concerned medically with him. He's got a situation in his foot that's it's a stress fracture and they asked him if the rechecks, if he would like to get it fixed, and he said no, he did not want to give it fixed. So, uh, you know, we'll see if in fact that's something that he has to Obviously he'll have to deal with it, but he stays in the state of Texas and then he will then he will get an oportunity there with the Houston Texans, but

eventually could have to have that foot fixed. So we're still all right, here we go, Yeah, here we go. But we thought all along, three defensive players, right, that's what we're gonna get. Yeah. Uh, And we knew this is gonna be a defensive back heavy day two for the Cowboys. We thought maybe corner safety, but I don't shouldn't surprise anybody if they go corner corner, it doesn't surprise me. But assuming assuming this is a corner, the main thing that I keep thinking of is in my end.

Obviously they can still draft a safety, but this feels like a big vote of confidence in Jeff Heath and Cavon Frazier or or even just to the depth of the safety class here. That's fair, as we've talked about Desmond King who. But I get the reason why I say is that it's a vote of confidence for the guys that are already here. Is because you, I mean,

you had guys that you like here at safety. You had I mean, Xavier Woods could be yours if you want them, and you said, nah, we'd rather, we'd rather get another corner and worry about safety later, which I don't know that Xavier Woods will be there when you pick tomorrow mornings. And if he's not, I think when you talk about this class and maybe Dane or Brian, you guys have even more names. But we watched Michigan and the kid Delano Hill like him, Ray Shawn Jenkins Miami.

If you're looking for a strong safety type, I think on day three you can still get him. Yeah, that Drew. Here we go, James, good to see it. Drew. Here, Here we go through, as brat Champs said, Brady James dope dope suit. Brady James with the ninety With the ninety second pick of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys, America's team picks Jordan Lewis dB Michigan. Here you go, all right, Jordan Lewis, Look, this is this

is something we do have to talk about. Yeah, he will remember when I said I wanted him to take a risk on talent with their third pick, he was arrested him. He didn't say that rested him. The story go ahead. Dank a domestic violence incident with his twenty year old girlfriend. Um and it's something that we really haven't received an update in terms of the public but you can you know these teams have done the homework,

they know what's going on. You know, this isn't as bad as the Gary and Colley situation, but it's still something where we don't know all the details, but you hope the Cowboys have and it'll be interesting to see, you know how what else comes out with this Jordan Lewis pick. Because on the field, I think it's a home run. I love this pick, but the details of what happened with the March arrest, it's it's really going to cause a lot of questions. So what is it?

What do you think this means for? You know, you've already taken a Woozier and an earlier round who we feel is kind of best in the slot. Jordan Lewis is a phenomenal cover guy, Yeah, but also probably the

slot because of his size. Does that mean a Woozier Maybe we're looking at on the outside and this makes the room very crowded, so the scandric room or out anticipate here and him moved almost no matter what it's for, I think so at some point, yeah, you look at what this team has done the last two years rebuilding the corner depth chart Anthony Brown a Woozier now Jordan Lewis.

They just rebuilt the corner position in three and I'm, you know, thinking back to our mock draft on Wednesday, I think it was you know, you've revamped the secondary in two picks with Marcus Williams and um a Dory Jackson.

Obviously that's not who they got, but like I said, all I mean your cornerback, after all of that complaining and gnashing of teeth, you're completely turned your cornerback depth chart over to the point where, yeah, maybe they don't need Orlando Scandrick and I don't know what you could get for him, but you can have a conversation about moving a guy now, which is mind boggling compared to

where they were yesterday. Yeah, and we know guys get hurt and Skeandrick is one of those guys coming off the injury Dad leg he started to get with that. Now you got five corners though, that you feel pretty good about with no one Carroll added to the mix as well. Packers making the pick. Yeah ninety three. Yeah, they're they're they've got true Pearson joined delection. It might

be skipping the US Adams. Yeah, there's yeah, no, no, They're they're putting montrevious Adams the defensive tackle deep than for Auburn. And what I love most about these two corners that the Cowboys have drafted, a Woozier and Lewis, they play with attitude. These are competitive guys. Uh they they take it offense if someone throws in their direction, they do not want to give up a catch, so they play tight coverage, they compete at the catch point.

I just love the attitude that these two guys bring to not only the meeting room in practice, but then on game day. And one of my notes in there on Jordan Lewis is despite the size, he's willing to hit. Yeah oh yeah. And I think that matters to this coaching staff as you're looking for corners that are willing to hit, and you've got two guys that are, I will say, and I mean, like, obviously it's similar to the Conley thing. You assume they've got a pretty good

handle on all the off the field stuff. If they're going to spend a draft pick on him, I will say, for me personally, it puts a damper on the pick for me a little bit. Just you don't want that hanging over a premium pick that you're spending. You just don't you don't want it, and you know even that maybe maybe there's he didn't do anything wrong. I'm not going to pretend know the situation, but I would you know,

Garrett loves to rave about right kind of guy. I would much prefer to have just a completely clean prospect that you don't have to have these types of conversations about. So, you know, I don't know. I'm sure there's plenty of Cowboys fans who would prefer to be drafting a guy that doesn't have domestic violence allegations hanging over him. But again, you know, for the time being, until we get more answers, I have to assume that they're satisfied. You know, it's

similar to the Ezekiel Elliott situation. You know this repeatedly, the Cowboys have said that they're satisfied that that's not something they're worried about. If they're going to spend a draft pick on this kid, I assume that they've got some answers that we don't. Two questions that I hope would be the first two questions asked to Jerry in the crew after this U versus Budge orin Lewis and the arrest. What's going on there? What do they know? What? What do they feel about who? You know, who he

is as a person. And two, would they consider playing woozy as safety? As a free safety? It's where you play some of that in college. Maybe they see him he playing that position some h Do they see him strictly as a corner? Do they see him as a guy like Byron Jones who could do a little bit of both? You know what was there? We know Joran Lewis as a corner and he's best in as a nickel, but a woozier with that versatility and you know, oh, you can see the Colorado tape where he does play

in the middle of the field. I asked him when we talked to him at he said, I'm a bawler, That's who I am. So, you know, I wonder how what the Cowboys evaluation of him was. Do they see him maybe filling in at safety a little bit more so than just corner. Pittsburgh is at ninety four. They made their selection and it looks like that it's Cameron Sutton. Cameron Sutton Senior Bowl. Yeah, Cameron Sutton is the pick there. That's pick ninety four with the Steelers. Pick ninety five

belongs to the Seattle Seahawks. Uh, this is a pick that they got from the Atlanta Falcons. So before, like I said, let's just reset h Montravius Alan, excuse me, Adams on Trevius Adams defensive in defensive tackle Auburn. He goes to Green Bay, Cameron Sutton, the cornerback from Tennessee who I think could probably play safety. He it goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. And now with pick number ninety five, that would be the Seattle Seahawks, and they have selected

Delano Hill from Michigan. So Michigan players flying off the board. Uh. Here in the last he was supposed to be a fallback for me. In the fourth, he wasn't supposed to go yet, real real quick, the best safety at Michigan. I know, wow, I know, I know you touched on this thing, But real quick, where do you where would you have had Jordan Lewis going if not for the off field stuff? Uh? Still, I mean I'm a forty five overall. I think I kept him there just because

I didn't know how to react to the news. Um as soon as he in the news came out, you know, he tweeted how he didn't you know, people are trying to drag them down and this and that. So I didn't know how to treat the situation. I didn't have enough details. So I kept them at forty five overall as my eighth best corner. And it's funny, I had a Wooziers my sixth best corner. Kevin King is my seventh best corner, and then Lewis is my eighth best corner.

So I kept them at forty five despite the incident. Fair enough, Okay, So the Detroit Lions are on the clock right now. This is a pick that they got from the New England Patriots. This is pick number ninety six, and so we're getting close to being into the compensatory round. But we remember now you can trade these compensatory picks. So instead of it used to be hey, let's you know, go to the men's room and don't worry about it. Now you have the ability to move these picks along

if you want. So once we get past this pick at number ninety six, four, the Lions then and it looks like they made the selection of uh Dane A player you like from Northern Illinois. Player you had me watch him. Kenny Galladay from Northern Illinois wide receiver, one of my favorite wide receivers. I thought I could get him in the fourth, but credit to Alliance, they didn't wait to the fourth. They took him here in the third. Uh FCS transfer said, you know what, I'm better than this.

I'm gonna transfer up. He dominated the Mac the last two years over a thousand yards. Big guy, six to four, lanky, but you'd see him on jet sweeps. You'd see him. Yeah, it's kind of funny to watch him do that. Yeah, they let him a little bit of everything. They played him like he was. They play him like he's a little guy. Yeah, but actually he's this big lanky yeah, exactly like you kind of like all over the place when he's running all arms and legs, all arms and legs,

six four eighteen pounds. But you're right, jet sweeps reverses. Just flip him the football and let him go. But high catch radius two. Remember he provides that large strike zone for the quarterback. Yeah, sure does so. Kenny Galladay. Uh that's the Detroit select at number ninety six. So now we're into the compensatory phase of thish of this draft. That would be one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten eleven picks. Uh, that we have to navigate here

to end the second day of the NFL Draft. The Miami Dolphins, their pick is in again. This is picked number ninety seven. Uh, just kind of looking at my board, man, I We've still got guys, uh things on that board. Uh. We talked about tankers Lee's on that board, Hanson the receiver forward. I mean there's some guys that are still there that can be selected. So, uh, we'll see what in fact that the Dolphins do here. This is the last time I'm saying Cordrea tankers Le's name. Is it?

They need a corner. They're gonna let him play man, and they're gonna pick him. I'm throwing machine away. They're you're gonna bet money? Are you sad? Are you sad? Jeff, I'm unstand. I'm done saying his name. It's time for him to get picked. We're at ninety seven. We weren't, and he's the best press man corner in this class. We weren't sure. We're at ninety seven. He's getting If he doesn't get picked, I'm taking his name off of

all my pieces of paper. You can take his name off, so I don't reever it's to say, you don't have to say it anymore. I'm gonna be done with it. I'm gonna be out. Well, he's Dane. He's got to be your best guy too, though, right, I mean left as far as Carl Lawson, Carl Carl Lawson. Yeah, yeah, let me see here who I've well, that was an over rate on us right there. Maybe, I mean we'll see I've got I've got Chad Hanson and Carl Lawson. Yeah, but yeah, he's he's third. They got whole scared of

his hip, right, and that's gotta be it. It might maybe, I mean he had the acl had the hip. I mean short arms hurt, but not this much. Well, and the thing though, whatever about short arms, I understand that, and that's a huge deal. But with Carl Lawson, you see a guy who knows how to beat the kind in front of him, and a number of different ways. My favorite thing about Lawson he uses his lower body

and his upper body in unison. The power with his upper body, the lower body quickness and he uses it in conjunction to break down the blocker and get to the quarterbacks. So yeah, I'm I'm with you. It's surprise he's still here. He shouldn't be. Yeah, well we'll see if in fact the Dolphins uh make that pick. We all would like it, Jeff, you even talked about it's a it's a team that could use a cornerback right there, if I'm not if I'm correct, right, yeah, let's see

that at the very least. Now again, I'm just I'm cheating off of Dane. But for we're all on the same team here. But for Miami U Xavian Howard was there a year ago? And how well did Davian Howard play? And how much depth does Miami have at the cornerback spot to where when you get to hear where you're knocking on the door of Day three, the best press man corner in the draft is staring in the face

Firon Maxwell is the top guy. But then good, you're Howard was a second rounder last year, so you're expecting a jump for him after his rookie season. But yeah, you still need more depth there behind those two. All right, let's do this. Let's take a break and we'll come back back get We'll get the We'll get the Dolphins pick. You're listening to coverage of Day two of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. We will continue in a moment on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three the Family.

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off the board. Chad Williams off the board. Yeah, let's let's go back to the picks. We started the competitive story round ninety seven tankers Lee did in fact go to the Miami Dolphins. And then now we're watching the highlights of Carolina. This is actually a pick. This is Arizona's pick. Is where this is so this went pick went from Carolina to Arizona and Arizona at three ninety eight has taken. Chad Williams. Danny talked a little bit about him from the Senior Bowl. Didn't look out of

place at all. There, Danny Widerser from Grambling, Bingo. That's exactly the point. He went to. The Senior was a late edition and you wouldn't know it. I mean, you would have thought he was one of the top receiver prospects there with the way he played. A tough, scrappy guy. Uh and he's you know, decent, size six one, two hundred and five pounds, tested well at his pro day. It was a four or four oh athlete. There's there's a lot to like about who he is and who

he can be, who he can develop into. So he needs some route running work. But you know, he's the first Grambling player drafted sense former Cowboy Jason Hatcher. Jason Hatcher, Yeah, third round, right, two thousand and six, right, third round exactly. So like the biggest thing was a Senior Bowl for him. That's why he's a there. Yeah, he looked good even

though he did he looked really good to Senior Bowl. Okay, so well, speaking of guys that look good, well, we'll visit now with Dallas Cowboys Newis Dallas Cowboys Jordan Lewis and Jordan, Welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. You're on our radio broadcasts on one I five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com and Brian brought us Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, and Kevin Turner. Uh, talk about your night

so far. You were you were a guy that uh you know that the Cowboys obviously they've gone to the well now with your teammate Taco Charlton, and now they go to the to grab you. There have to be very excited about that. Um, I'm hated, man. I'm excited to be a part of a great organization, you know what Cowboys, and UM, I'm just I'm excited to see what's the store from. How did how did this whole

process go for you? Meeting with all these teams? Did you know how interested the Cowboys were and how did your interactions go with them? Um? I knew that, you know, they were interested because you know I had ties with coach Jackson and UM, you know he saw the style of play to that you know I brought to the game and UM, he always liked it. So, UM, I knew that the Cowboys were always you know, a contender. Um, but I didn't know, you know that they were, you know,

actually gonna pull a gun on me. How would you describe your style of player that you just mentioned. I like to get physical. Uh. I think I'm a technician, you know. I like to you know, work on my technique and be perfect addic, and I like to get a guy's faces. You know, I'm a competitor, so I definitely think that's you know, some of the key points

of my game. Yeah. Obviously you know you're you're not six two two ten pounds, a little undersize compared to a lot of corners, but you don't let that stop you. You play like a bigger guy. Talk about how you're able to you know, mask maybe some shortcomings of size

in some other areas. Uh, just you know, just being a technician, like I said, you know, working on your craft, being perfect at it, you know, uh, no missteps, you know, just just understanding the game more and uh just just normal where guys want to be at certain times of different things like that. Just just understand understanding the game more and uh, just playing to your strong suits. I think that's you know, that's what you know gives me

the edge. Jordan. You know you mentioned playing for Greg Jackson there at Michigan and Greg came in and did a heck of a job with the secondary here. But you know, Grego was quiet, guys, he's a teammate of mind of LSU. Doesn't say a whole heck of a lot, but you know, talk about him on the field, you know, and what and how he helped you, you know, with your development. I know he was away from you this year,

but talk about the being reunited with him. He was, you know, he was all he was a safety coach actually we were at mission, but he would always invite us to, you know, to his meeting room and uh show us how to break down filming and you know, show him show us what you know, teams want to do in different formations and different things like that. And he actually taught us a game. You know, he talks

you know, the game of you know, advanced football. You know, what's what you're gonna see at the next leveling things like that, how to study and uh, you know, and that helped everybody's game and that secondary of Michigan. So uh uh, you know, I'm extremely you know, um appreciative, you know everything that he did for us all and also your teammate Taco was drafted last night by the Cowboys. Give us your thoughts on uh Taco Charlton Oh man, he's he's a competitor, man. Yeah, and he's a tender

as they come. Uh. Definitely excited to get down there and and play with uh with my guy. Uh one of the people that I said I bring down there. Uh if I if I was ever to get drafted. Well, let me tell you what, George Day, Don't let that. Don't let this ezekiel Ella get in your face and that Ohio State guys. You guys, maintain that toughness. I know it's a you go from enemies to family right here now, right, let be fun. There's gonna be a lot of fun though. See what you're gonna see how

we interact so well. Look, I look forward to yeah, I look forward the end of the season with those games of the Michigan Ohio State game and see the bets you guys got hey or thank you so much for joining us today. Look forward to seeing you here very soon again. Congratulations cerebrity here at Dallas Cowboys dot com and one oh five three the fan. Okay, thank you so much. All right, take care all right, yeah, and let's uh and kids kind of double doing helping

us out here. As always. Engineering on the Fly got some secret audio from the war room from the Fort Center war room with Jordan Lewis Jordan Day, how are you doing, Georgia Terry Jones with the Cowboys? Hey, Jordan, we just turned your card in and you're now Dallas cowboy. Thank you so much, Oh my god, thank you so much.

Dear Well, I'll tell you this and we uh, of course Scott Taco in here as well, and so I think Michigan's taking it over around here, sir, Yes, sir, but listen, I just know it's a big night for you. Just everyone that has spent any time evaluating getting to know people that know you gave you the high marks for character and being the person you are. So congratulation with that, Thank you so much. But now you are

now a Dallas cowboy. But I want to hand the phone to you too, Jason Gart Jordan, what's hey, how you doing, coach? I'm doing great? Congratulations, thank you. We've got all these Michigan guys around here, now where to go. It's a big day for you. It's a big day for us too. We're excited to have you. Thank you so much. So, oh my god, you're getting ready to get to work. Yes, sir, it's gonna start fast. You better be ready. I'm I'm I'm so ready. Coach good.

We're really excited to have you. Congrats, man, look forward to seeing you. Thank you so much. There you have it. It's so funny, man, it's like the awkward you just don't know. I just don't know what to say. And and I'll tell you the one that's the funniest ones when they got the family in the background just going yeah nuts. We've heard those. You've heard those. You're like, man, can you walk in another room. I'm trying to I'm trying to help you here. You know, just it's age

gap that makes it the best. I still don't know how to talk to adults. Yeah, it's very hard about like he's just yeah, Jerry, yeah, Jerry Yeah. And how do you how do you respond to It's a bunch of Michigan guys right here. Yeah, it'd be funny that Zeke Zeke will getting those kids face him and Tacco. There'll be there'll be some there'll be some funny, funny

locker room scenes with those guys. So, uh look forward to seeing Jordan Lewis part of the We'll have a rookie minicamp in two weeks, not the week after this week, that this, but then two weeks we'll have the rookie mini camp and see him on the field. Getting a lot of questions about why the smaller corners you know, reach, right, it's all about the reach, But and I also think it's about not long either. Well yeah, that's yeah, but that's what we were talking about with Dory Jackson, right.

But I think what these guys bring with attitude and competitive nature and the aggressiveness they play with, I think that makes up for it. I really do. And so yes, ideally you know those inches matter, but with these guys bring from a football character standpoint, and look, I know we're we're still waiting to hear more about the Jordan Lewis off the field, the arrest and what's going on with that. What do the Cowboys know how with a comfort level with everything that needs to play itself out.

But in terms of on the field, these guys, Uh, the attitude that they play with, it's strong selling points. You can bet the coaches. Those high fives Jack in the war room. Yeah, those were not you know, fake, those were not Okay, we got they're excited to get the two players. Yeah. And also I mean, I mean obviously they're comfortable with it. Otherwise they probably don't make the selection. But in that phone call, like it Jerry before he handed the phone off to coach Garrett said,

we love you. We love the high character market that you have. Yeah, that's not something you normally say about someone who's being you know, in a situation that he's in. Right, So, I mean obviously they're very comfortable and you know, until more informations out, there's not really much to say with it. But hey, the secondary has for the most part been remade. Yeah, I mean you've made up for losing car and Clayborne. Let's get it that way. And maybe a Wouzier has

safety potential. Yeah. I like with Dane saying, I think that's a question that needs to be asked tonight and we need to text David Hellman. Should be the first question. Yeah, it should be if you if you're interested, because they liked the conversion guy, and you know that's if that's the case, that's that's a good thing right there. Okay, let's catch up. The Broncos are about to make their pick at one oh one, but I'll go ahead. We'll see,

I'll give you the picks. Ahead of that, we had Chad Williams, the Grambling wide receiver, went to Arizona at ninety eight. Combine snub drafted, yeah, exactly, Philadelphia at ninety nine took Russeul Douglas, the cornerback from West Virginia. So we've a lot of folks kind of had him potentially mocked to the Cowboys. Uh. Then at pick one hundred

would be Tennessee. Uh, John new Smith, the tied end from Florida International, and then we're now Denver is taken with pick one oh one Brendan Langley, a cornerback from Lamar, Senior Bowl guy. Right day, same thing with John new Smith, just went off the board to Lally Langley. He's a former sec guy Georgia, Georgia. Right, they played him at receiver. They didn't know what to do with them. Okay, so he transfers, goes the FCS and Lamar they play him

at corner. He's fastest player in the field. Really impressive, but he's as raw as they come. Yeah, we're not going to see a lot of this player as a rookie. He needs a lot of work. But you know, we're talking about a guy that's north of six foot, north of two hundred pounds, a four four three athlete. There's a lot to like about just the raw traits and what he could grow into. But again, extremely raw. But

at this point, late third round, I get it. I mean I had a fourth fifth type of grade on him, but here in the late third I can understand the justification. Yeah, and so we're now into Seattle is gonna be all Let's say, after length, here we go with Seattle selection. Kent say what Seattle's selection at y got Seattle? Seahaw select Nazir Jones D tackle North Carolina. Okay, there we go. So Nazir Jones kind of thought, yeah sloading up a

D line? Yeah, what's up again? Kts hating the fact that they're they're trying to get the guy hurt, their quarter trying to get to the other quarterback and their quarterbacks looking at they Yeah, they they did. They took they did take an offensive line. Oh yeah, yeah, they got him one. They got him one. They got him one. Yeah, well I think he's uh, you know in Seattle and the fourth three, I think he's a three technique again

in Nazi. Yeah, I was. That's what I was thinking when I was watching him on tape, right, and I can do a little bit of both. Um, you know he uh, his flashes are really impressive, really really impressive. Uh, with that quickness off the ball where he can get through grass, get through gaps and then kind of disrupt what's going on in the pocket. Right, he's still kind of fared away from what he's going to be and

that's that's why he's a third round pick. But there's a lot to like about, you know, what he could grow into. So that was a Seattle selection. Yeah, I was kind of thinking, you know, a three technique really. I mean that maybe there's some people talking about him being like a bass like an end playing a little bit of a you know, a five technique defensive end. So but he is a selection Nazir Jones defensive tackle

uh from North Carolina. Okay, so that puts uh, this is a pick uh from let's see here, Pick one oh three belongs to the New Orleans Saints. Uh. That pick is in. Let's see if in fact that they uh uh in fact uh make this pick without going to a podium, uh to make the pick? Uh? You got anybody in mind? Note Saints, Jeff you you seem to have the seat over in eads in front of you right there. Let's see NFC. Yeah, New Orleans Saints. I mean they did a quarterback quarterback. Oh, go Peterman

defensive end, quarterback. What have they already done? New Orleans has New Orleans has had a heck of a draft. They really have, And I'm gonna find the specifics for you real quick. They uh Marshall and Lattimore, Ryan Ramchick, Marcus Williams, Alvin Kamara, and then they did the linebacker Enzlone. Yeah, but I think that's quite a few good players there. Well, good quarterback, defensive end, maybe a linebacker. Let's see. Here's

the selection. At one h three and third pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the New Orleans Saints select Trey Hendrickson, defensive end. Yeah. A lot of people liked this guy in combine, right, he worked really well. Yeah, I tested really well. And it was funny that it was one of those guys. The tape wasn't you know, there's there's folks that really really liked him, and they're showing highlights right now him playing against Kansas State and uh and uh getting after a little bit, but find

some highlights and make players look real. I don't. I don't. Yeah, no, I like the motor doesn't Yeah, that's the third round. I don't get it. Yeah, he tested really well, and that's what that's why he's here because the athletic testing numbers, because the tape. Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but he is a knack for blocking kicks and the motor doesn't shut off, and I think you know, those two things will help. Yeah, I mean I I didn't see

the combine. If you watch the tape, it's not quick tape, you know, you know, and you see all the combine numbers and you're going, wow, this guy should be But the film again, it's like it's like melafal Wu. You don't see the athletic numbers translate into tape. I know some guys around the league that really really liked this guy, you know, And and the fact that he h that he went at pick one oh three to the New Orleans Saints. It tells you that the Saints obviously thought,

uh something was going on there. Some quotes from Jordan Lewis, I think all charges will be dropped. I'm completely innocent. That's what he told the Dallas Morning News. Good and then in David Hellman just tweeted, I think it'll be squashed then and there talking about his trial which is set for July. Right, So that's good news. Still it's still hanging over him. There is nothing you know that's

uh set in stone right now. But uh, you know it is good news, and you just you wonder what the Cowboys knew or if you know, are they worried about this? Is this something you know they obviously they did their homework, you know, and they felt they felt comfortable if they drafted him here. But it is something that will be hanging over his head at least until until July in the trial. All right. So we uh that's that's good news. I mean, well it's it's important.

It's important news. We'll see exactly what happens. You know. The Cowboys, Uh, they have a very good security director here, you know, with Larry Wansley, and they get to the bottom of a lot of situations. So we'll see. You know, they obviously have done their homework on their players, so we'll see the San Francisco forty nine ers, their picks gonna come up live. Uh, the forty nine ers that pick one oh four, Jeff, flip me something on the forty nine ers. And they still they have not what

if let me want to what they've done. Yeah. Let they were the story last night, taking Salomon Thomas at three right, Ruben Foster at thirty one right, and then earlier in the third round they took Kello Witherspoon, the cornerback right. So I'd say three for three on draft picks so far. Yeah, which according to us was three of the needs, which leaves them with quarterback and running back at least as two of them. They need football players in San Francisco, though, they just need a bunch

of That's true. That's a roster that needs a lot of help. So I think you could kind of look up and down your board and just say, hey, guys, who's our best player and where are we gonna go? Why would they not take why would they not take Peterman here? Why are they not? Yeah? I like that, like that at I mean I think that to me, if you're looking at a quarterback, I mean, he's the best quarterback on our board, on the on the one oh five three board, and the guys they have their bridges.

You're talking about Brian Hoyer, You're talking about Matt Barkley. Neither one of those as long. Yeah, right here, if you're gonna take a swing on a mid round quarterback, he's the one to do it on. If you want to hope you can develop a guy to a starter, I think he might be the last one left. Right. Yeah, well, you know what about give me some thumbnail, Give me a thumbnail on Peterman. I mean what you mean, Here's a guy that I know for a fact that Cowboys

went and worked him out, really liked him. The fact he was playing under center. He's got some good tape, that's the key. He's well versed in a pro style scheme. Um. You know, I think he's not afraid to push the ball downfield. And really, I think it might come down in terms of the next quarterback off the board, Peterman or Dobbs, two players that started at Tennessee. Dobbs beat out Peterman. Peterman went to pitt uh And you know, I think it worked out for the best for both sides.

But you know, with Peterman, he was a sixty percent completion percentag Well, here's here's San Francisco selection. Let's let's listen. Just go forty nine or select CJ. Beho quarterback went Beethar there? Huh okay about that? That was? Yeah? That was who wants to take this one? I mean we had him in a mock draft, staying away from it. We had him in the sex How about that? Sometimes you like to see a guy do better than your thought he'd duke. Congratulations, CJ. You got more? Do you

feel like do you feel like Shanahan does he? Does he maybe see a little bit of does he maybe see a little bit of cousins in this guy? We talked about how I would think the Pittsburgh guy would be more cousins. I agree, But we talked about how scheme in college can kind of hold a prospect back, right, Zay Jones and some of these other guys. That was the case here at Iowa. It was CJ. Bethard uh run first offense and they just didn't let him let it loose at all. I mean, they didn't have a

downfield threat that he could really throw it too. So I think that's if you're drafting him here in the third round, which kind of reminds me of Cody Kessler going on the third round last year. I don't think you could have waited two rounds maybe to get him. But they took him here. They must really like him.

He's obviously has some bloodlines you like. I mean, right, you know, his grandfather his grandfather, and I loved his Grandfare's grandfather was Bobby Bethar, the general manager Washington Redskins, super Bowl winning general manager with the Skins and then also with later with the San Diego Chargers. And Bobby Bethard was great to me. I mean every time we went to meetings and stuff. Always a lot of fun. I like the San Diego Charger guys when I was

hanging around those cats. So yeah, and his brother's a scout with the Carolina or excuse me, his uncle is a scout with the Carolina Panthers. His brothers a country singer. Yeah, they've got a Nashville connection. Very very, very talented family for sure. So okay, we're running down the final few picks of the draft against San Francisco. One O four takes CJ. Bethard. The Pittsburgh Steelers pick is in let

me just have some fun here. I don't know. I mean, I don't have any idea what it's gonna be, so I'm probably wrong. But we talked about this to the night man. Carl Lawson will will look really good with the Steelers. That would make a lot of sense. I okay, So I just got one of them wrong with this. Gotta be something wrong. I wanted them to pick him in the first round. Yeah, that's where I thought the fit was, was Pittsburgh. Carl Lawson. James Harrison's what thirty

nine years old? I thought he would be the air Well. Let's listen to the Steward selection. Here at one oh five selection, I just want to say, Michael Dulises wants to get to the Runey family. Mister Runey made his soul arrested peace. Now with the one hundred and fifth peak in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Stealers select James Connor running back. There you go, James Connor. I'll tell you what back to back picks were kind

of surprised they went this early. Yeah, James Connor, though, I mean, he's a heck of a story, really, I mean, and he was the first guy that when I was kind of walking around the combine and I saw he was over on one of those he's on a podium over on the side, and you know, the running backs were all going through, and he was the one that had the biggest crowd around him because he's got a

fascinating story. Dane, you know the story. You know better than than anybody though, what James Connor went through to get to this point. Yeah, he well, last year, he had a great sophomore season. It was over seventeen hundred rushing yards back in twenty fourteen. Then twenty fifteen his first season opener towards a CLU major knee injury, and then during his rehab and with all the medicals going on, found out that, you know, he was diagnosed with Hodgkins lymphoma.

And so this is a player who had to go through a six month battle all types of chemo treatments. Uh. And so basically the twenty fifteen season just you know, forget about the fifteen season, just his life in general, how much change. And then after six months he got the good news that he beat cancer. Uh and somehow got back in football shaped by the two and sixteen season to get on the field, and he wasn't the

same James Conner we saw as a sophomore. But he's still went over a thousand yeards rushing right, And this is this is a bruiser, I mean six one and a half two hundred and thirty three pounds, physical finisher. He's not gonna make anyone miss. Yeah, this is he'll run over you. You when if you need a short yardage If in short yardage situation, you feel good about James Conner when you give him the ball. This is

this is the bus part two in Pittsburgh. Yeah, and uh, nice to see him with all the things that he went through, and and and and the fact that he gets to stay there at Hindes Field and have an opportunity to continue his career whether he makes the active roster or is on the practice scri I'm sure he's a guy that would just be an inspirational characters there. Yeah, it's just a great you know, you look at him and you get really uh, but he's a good football player.

Though too. He's a grinder between the tacks. Nothing, there's nothing fancy about his game. No, he's not gonna break off big runs. That's just what he does. I mean, he's he's a grinder between the tackles. And like we said, not learning of the best stories just in this in this draft and football, best stories in sports. It's great. Well, here we go, Seattle. We're down to the final two picks, Pick one, O six and one. Those two thousand and

seventeen NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select Amara darbou Go. Yeah, Jeff, if you're kind of my wide receiver whisper talking about him Darba, I'll whisper to Yet, so when you watched him at Michigan, it's a guy that's statistically doesn't jump out at you right less than sixty catches, under nine hundred yards, seven touchdowns. But I think for me, it's

just a combination of traits. Not maybe not to the extent of a six or seventh rounder where you just see a couple of things you like and you pick a guy, but for a guy that's over six one, two hundred and fifteen pounds and then shows up and runs in the four fours at the combine. I think that level of athleticism for a guy that size is something that you're gonna like. Don't like that he bodies up a lot of passes on the inside when he could catch it with his hands, and I think he

can catch it with his hands. So for me, the one big thing. He's not necessarily twitchy, but he's big, he's strong, he's fast, and he's got some nice after catch power. Yeah, he'll go up get the football too. We'll see a lot of plays down the field with this guy. You see him extend and go get the football for It's amazing for a guy that does have some hight to him. He's got he's good with his feet, he has something I remember, I mean him kind of

getting his feet down. We're watching some film where him getting close to the sideline, get his feet down, core end zone, get the feet down. That kind of guy football awareness, that way, kind of a kind of unorthodox route running style, exactly the way to get open and Dane, we just talked about a good story. That's another good story. Another great story. I'm mean on you because I know you have all the details because I read about it

in your guide. Yeah, he was born in war torn Western Africa, Okay, and he there's a lot of people killed back in the early nineties because of that, the conflict and Sierra Leone, including his parents. They didn't make it out of there. So he was raised by his aunts and kind of he moved to the US. He was adopted by a family here and it's really a great story. He kind of you know, late bloomber to football.

Obviously didn't know English when he came here and it just adapted very well and really turned himself into something. So it's he went. He became a US citizen a couple of years ago. Uh. At Michigan, he saw him get better each and every season and emerging is their top player. And oh we just said another pick. Kendall. Yeah, Kendall Beckworth. Kendall Beckworth, the LSU linebacker. Uh he is uh has been injured acl injury suffered late in practice

at LSU and late in the season. And uh, you know, to me, really the heart and soul, I mean you talk about Adams the safety being a heart and soul. This kid right here is as tough as they come. And the Tampa Bay Buccaneers third round pick one oh seven. They end the night with Kendall beckwith the linebacker from LSU. Highly competitive player, passionate player. You can see the way he loves the game by the way he plays. So that will be it for Day two of the NFL

Draft tomorrow. Uh, the Green Bay Packers will lead off the day known as the Day of the Scouts. Uh. They will have the first pick to start today. Uh. Guys, you know, surprises, we'll focus on the Cowboy front of it. Well, you know, with UH, we were kind of hoping maybe you know, different players. Dane. You you have really favorable reports on both the selections of the Cowboys made today. It feel like that definitely potentially guy that could be

a nickel player, maybe a safety. You know, well, I got some flexibility here. I didn't mind the talk with Charleston pick. You know, it wasn't a bad pick at all. I'd like to pick. I love the two picks today. Okay, I'm more excited about these two picks, not because they're better players, just because of the value they got in the second and third rounds. Again, this is my sixth and eighth corners with the Woozier and Jordan Lewis. The versatility.

I think Jordan Lewis is better in the slot. He's more of that nickel corner inside with the toughness, and then a woozier. He can play outside, he can play safety, he can do those different things. And I like that they went away from just the you know, we want tall, long corners. You know, they took good football players, Okay, I mean they took two players that the football intelligence,

the competitiveness, the attitude. Uh, these guys have position flex Really like what they did, and like I said before, what they've done the last two years with Anthony Brown, these two guys, they're really revamping that secondary. I wasn't

was I'm sorry, it was not surprising to me. It's because he was on the thirty thirty visit, you know, I mean that was they kind of tipped that off, right, But to Jordan Lewis at ninety two, you know, Jordan Lewis, it just kind of wasn't in my mind because of the incident. And it's one of those things that almost blacklists you today. Three right, and and and you know what that pick is ninety two right there at the back end of the third round. That is you know,

pretty close. So it's a good good time to make a pick like that if you think there's risk. But it doesn't sound like they seem to think there's considerable risk with Jordan Lewis. Yeah, well they're not making this pick just you know, without knowing sure, I feel, you know, pretty good. They must know. They have a great feeling. Yeah, Larry Wansley is right outstanding at his job here, and

so they know exactly. It's much like when we heard the rumors about, you know, with Conley, you know when they you know, hey, they were a team that was interested in doing the research on Conley. You know. Evidently, yeah, he went ahead of them, you know, to Oakland at twenty four, but you know, they had they felt like that they had the research done what they needed to do. So, you know, that's important to have a guy that's really

good in the trenches as far as digging up that information. Jeff, the Cowboys, Uh, we'll pick tomorrow at the in the fourth round. That's pick one thirty three. We've kind of talked about, Hey, we've addressed Dane even flowed the idea do you need a safety if a Woozier could be a safety do yeah? I mean, are you still looking

for a safety? I think I'm interested to hear what they say about the A Woozier pick, because to everybody's point, he is a guy that shows you he can line up in different places, and once you've taken Jordan Lewis, I think at five ten he is much limited to the slot. Do we all agree with that? Like, Jordan Lewis is probably gonna have to be a slot and you like him there because he's sticky in coverage, He's willing to be physical against the run, being closer sort

of to the ball there in the slot. So I like the idea of having him there. The question is where you're gonna put a Woozy and what does that mean for what we're going to talk about tomorrow? So I feel like here in twenty minutes, when we hear them talk about these players will know. But I love the idea that the same names that we were talking about for a potential round a three pick. Yeah, can this draft falling away that a Desmond King or Xavier Woods is still on the board for you and you

could get another piece in the secondary. Now that's a lot and for somebody who didn't love the pick at twenty eight. Yeah, because I was a T. J. Watt fan. I liked the projection of trying to get that sort

of athleticism after the passer. But to think that you could come out of this thing with you just made your secondary younger, You're fast, you're competitive at the corner spot now and you hacked off, hacked off Andricky trade trying right and now, by the way, Jerry is saying, it's totally erroneous, and though we heard from Mike Foll that Orlando said, I was told they're trying to trade

mere we go. But either way, I like the fact that you are now younger in that secondary with guys that are scrappy, and we'll see what the other one is going to be. But once you've done that, then look back at the Taco Charlton pick and he say, Okay, you added a guide to my defensive end rotation with some upside that at worst is probably a solid player.

And I got younger and faster in my secondary. Okay, I'll take that through three rounds Kevin Turner, can you give me an offensive guy that they might take in the fourth round tomorrow? Well, I mean we talked about Jake Butt and make a lot of sense there. Wait in the fourth round, if Jake Butt were to follow you that far, have we completely rolled out offensive line? I mean there's some pretty good offensive linement on there. I don't know how they would feel out these guys.

If you wanted to tackle, maybe Jillian Davenport from buck Nell m I kind of like the Saragosa get it guard man. If you if you depend on what you trust Lyle Collins and you got a lot of a lot of flex, maybe Byron Bell could do that for you. You know, there's a lot of a lot of options there. I don't know if anything from a skill standpoint. Running back, you know, there's guys I like. I don't know if they would like him. I like Tarik Cohen, okay, and

I like Donnelle pump Free from San Diego State. Uh kind of feel that Lance Dunbar Area. I think those are some things that would make sense. But you know how far back in the day. You know another guy I like it running back is Jamal Williams. Yeah, I like him a lot. It's just is he there for you late in the fourth Yeah, it's that might be

they might think that and we like that pick. I mean I thought we had him in the third round, but I think if you got him in fourth at the in the fourth round, that would be a tremendous pick right there from b Yu so Wayne Gallman as well from games In still on the board there for those wide receivers, Dane, I mean we taught me and would you add any of those? Hanson Ford, Noah Brown,

Jeff you you like Noah Brown a lot. I'm just trying to think of a guy we Katie Cannon was a guy that we talked about speed, right, we talked about speed guy up the field. Hey, if you're interested in the gadget guy, how about the Mackenzie guy at Georgia. Yeah, if you're looking for a gadget guy, Switzer not for this team, but Switzer that that's a really good player. I think that's left a slot receiver from North Carolina? Right, would you take? I was go ahead? I like the

better North Carolina wide receiver? Oh, Clack Collins, Collins, Yeah, what about I'm still a name for you in a position we haven't talked about much. What if Sean Lee gets hurt or something, God forbid, what are you doing. Would it be nice to have Blair Brown on your team? Oh? Yes, I'll tell you what if you look at a quarterback too. We still got still got Peterman there, still got Peter. That's my guy still here. Yeah, we're over here picking Davis Webb, who the next time he reads a defense

will be the first time. Bethard. I mean, that's C. J. Bethard. That's off the board. And my guy Peterman can't get a look. Come on, Peterman's gonna Dak Prescott this thing here, fourth rounder who ends up making it in this league. All right, well, hey, listen, that's a that that'll be. We'll put that, We put the ro apps on that. Tomorrow this draft will be day three. We'll be on one oh five three on the actual airway. So if you're driving around, give us a list song. And Jeff

Kavanaugh is gonna be quarterback in the team. Can I use the voice that I was using today before? We will use that voice to the NFL draft exactly. So, so Jeff Kavana, I'll be quarterback in tomorrow the same croup. We'll be on the air hopefully tomorrow about ten forty five. The draft starts at eleven am Central sou twelve Eastern. So get ready for another round of what's known as the Scouts Draft. What time do we go on? I think it's ten forty five. I'm trying to check mine

right now. Well exactly, we'll sneak in a catnap and we'll be right back. We'll be right back exactly. So thanks everybody out there is hanging out with us on on Dallascowboys dot com and almost all of our fan fans out there on one oh five three. We really do appreciate Chip one. Also, thank Kent Garrison for doing all he does and keeping us on the air, and thanks for Douglas Barraclow those guys that all work with one oh five three. Uh, and make sure that we're

doing the right thing. So you guys have a great evening. We'll see you tomorrow morning for Day three of the twenty seventeen NFL Draft.

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