2017 Draft Day LIVE - Round 1

These are the times that tribe men's souls with that. We welcome you to our Day one coverage of the two seventeen NFL Draft. Yes, sir, you have ever contributed like I didn't know you were capable of something that's smart? Brian, way to go. You didn't feel like I could quote a little Thomas Paine. I would have never guessed you knew who Thomas Paine was. Well, yes, Thomas Paine is a again, a founding father of this country. And uh

you like that, elvoy to start it out? Yeah, and and and and uh again, these are the times that try men souls. And again we welcome you guys to the the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. Again. Brian brought us Dave Burglar from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. K Garrison Executive producing this program. Hey guys, and uh, we're really excited to be here. I mean, I it's it's it's been something. I mean, I've been working on this draft. I know

the players since December fifth. I know, Dane, you've been working on this draft, well, like you maybe took a month off and then started on it again after the June in June. Yeah, so, uh, it's it's really a thrill to be here with you guys. And and once again it will be wall to wall coverage here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. We're gonna have three days of the NFL Draft, every pick, every bit of analysis that we can give you. It's it'll be pretty cowboy heavy.

But well, you know, if you're falling along and you're a fan of another team, we'll sure give your team some consideration. You know, if we like the pick, we don't like the pick, we'll give you a little background. That's our motto has always been to investigate and educate, and for three days, we're going to try and educate you guys, and I feel like a lot of you

out there are prepared and ready to go. I feel like that, uh that whether it's from watching the draft shows, following us at the Senior Bowl, the combine, whether it's tweets, any one of these different avenues that we've been able to reach you, you have an idea of these players. And I think that's good. I really do think that's good. So I think to start this off tonight, this first round, and I'm you know, I mean, I'm the old school guy. I actually was part of a twelve round draft, which

was crazy, but god it was fun. I mean it was crazy but fun. But you know, it's a little bit different now with the first night being in primetime. Round one, it's so different. It is differently. Have you been watching this over the last hour and half? It is, But it's a red carpet Awards, and I mean that it's not new. They did this last year and this is that's what. It's fine. That's fine with that. I'm okay, it's that's spectacle. It is a spectacle. But I think

this first round is gonna be crazy tonight. I think when we when we start, when the when the commissioner goes to open this draft, I think it's gonna be there. There's some there's some twist and turns tonight in this first round. And again your Dallas Cowboys picking at twenty eight. So yeah, lock in and be ready to go. And uh, don't feel like the Cowboys are gonna move up anytime.

You know, there's been a lot of speculation about different different teams potentially trying to trade back, maybe some teams trying to trade up, but the Cowboys are in locked in there at twenty eight. I actually just bumped into Scott Linehan while I was making myself a cup of coffee, and he's like, you're getting getting coffee. I was like, yeah, I'm getting coffee. We're gonna be here until like eleven thirty, twelve o'clock at night. He's like, that's it's a pretty

good point. That's a good point right there. If the Cowboys picked tonight. Yeah, Cowboys picked tonight. And you know, let's let's let's talk about again, maybe what's going on with Cleveland. At one Broun Slim ask real quick from our perspective, we love this because it's so predictable. I have no problem going, oh for thirty two in my mom draft. Oh, I don't care, because that it was a fun I would prefer that honestly, right, I mean

we had a great time. But from a scouts perspective, when you're in the war room, you don't want to go, oh no, you know, oh right now, if you say you're picking eighth in this draft, you know you're looking at those top seven picks. Yeah, what the heck is going to happen? Yeah, I always you guys always laugh at me about those tags glowing, you know, and I do. I want them to glow, but they don't. They don't glow.

And yeah, if you're sitting there at here in Carolina right now and you're you're you're thinking, Okay, we're at a spot where we're gonna get a damn good football player, but we've got to I mean, we're gonna have to maybe sweat a sweat a few picks. And that's really what the whole You've done, all the preparation, you've done everything to get ready for the draft, and you've put your board, you're stacked, you fought. You've got your feelings hurt.

You know, you feel good that you won one. You didn't win them all, trust me, you didn't win them all. But when you look at that wall, and we'll get when the Cowboys go to the when we go to the Ford Center war room cam, you'll see a different look than what we used to see, what we saw at Valley Ranch, a little bit nicer, a little bit a little bit different look at that in that Ford Center war room. And but that's where that the scouts,

that's where the board, that's where everything is. And you'll see a group of guys and ladies around that table that fought for players and fought for the you know, to get the board is the best that they can And I'll tell you what, guys, that thing has been there's been some shots taking at that thing. I mean, you start talking about when we started this and even going into the Pro Days. You know, we we got done with the combine. Now we're into Pro Days. Boom,

we're hit with the Sydney Jones injury. Then we're hit with you know, with Fabian Moreau. I mean, now it's questions like Conley, guys are guys are not working out guys. You know I'm standing all my times and all that. So yeah, this is this is this is actually the fun time because you've done everything to get that board in the best shape you can get it in. It's fun. But I'll tell you, I mean, you know, we have the privilege of working in this building. You get to

see I mean, you run into the scouts, you see them. Yeah, you see him in the hallway at lunch. I don't know how fun this is. I mean, just when you're talking about it's fun day. If you're talking about a year, I mean, we put in a lot of work, but I mean you're talking about ten months to a year's worth of prep on this guy, on these guys, if not more. And now now it's gotta it's gotta work

out for you. Now. The resources that are put in, yeah, for this one, well, these next three days and then free agency afterwards, it's amazing the resources, the hours, the manpower put into this to come away with the chance to improve your football team. And so you just you have to hit a home run these next three days if you want to be competitive this upcoming season and seasons beyond that. And I guess that's My point is that you know, obviously we put in a lot of

work and we want to be right. You guys have a lot at stake in terms of your evaluations and stuff. But we're not getting fired if the Cowboys first round pick is a bust. No, but these guys might. Yeah, but that's and that they trust me. Yeah, you don't want to get fired. I mean you you you do all you can to to maintain the position because you do love this. I mean that's that's there's no doubt

about this. And tonight, just to give you a little bit of an idea, uh, Kent has come up with some really cool graphics that you will see on Dallas Cowboys dot com and on our cast. Is you know with the pick, who's got the pick, who's got the next pick? We'll have all kinds of information for you

on the screen. Uh. You know, we're excited about how we're just trying to upgrade our our overall broadcast just to you know, we we we have the knowledge, but you know, we know you guys have a choice out there, and we want to make sure that that you have all the information at your fingertips that you know who is on the clock. Who's on deck and all those things. So we'll be going throughout the night talking about these

uh these players. Um. I mentioned the Cowboys thought at twenty eight and the weight, and we depending on which way this draft falls, it could fall a couple of different ways for them. And I wanted to ask this question about it. Do you with the quarterbacks the unknown with the quarterbacks, Dave, do you want all the quarterbacks to go early to drive players to you or do you would you rather the quarterbacks be at the bottom of the board to have options if you want to

dive out of there. That's a great question, and I think I would rather. I want there to be a quarterback there in the Cowboy I want I want the trade option. I want the quarterback to be there. And again, you know, we talked about it. Maybe we talked about playing hardball. Maybe the Cowboys can't turn it into a sixty five overall pick or something like that, but you can get yourself a nice little, you know, price, if you can do business with somebody that wants a quarterback.

I actually looked this up because we were talking about it earlier today. The very trade last year that the Broncos did with the Seahawks to get packs, and Lynch netted them, netted them an extra the Seahawks an extra third round pick. Yeah, because they wanted to go do the deal or a five spot jump. Yeah. So don't tell me it's not possible. You know, if if somebody's sitting there at you know, San Francisco thirty four or

Chicago thirty five, whatever, I don't care. If somebody's sitting there that they want to go get, you can get a pretty damn good pick out of it. I would love for that to happen. Dan. It's hard to disagree with that because it's not that you're necessarily going to do that, but you want the option. Yeah, you want that to be on the table because then you could reassess your board, see who's available, and you might say,

you know what, we're good. We're gonna stay here and take the player if Tack McKinley's there, if that's who you want, if it's one of these corners. But to have the option, that's what you want if you get wiped out, if the guy that you want maybe goes a few spots ahead. Because when you look at these teams all in that into twenties, in the late first round. They all have similar needs. You talk about pass rushing corner.

So we could see some of the Cowboys prime targets come off the board right in front of them, kind of similar to two years ago when you know they like Shack Thompson quite a bit. Yeah, and he went right right in front of them, and you know, Cowboys end up with Byron Jones. That's worked out, okay, But you know, who knows how this year or this this draft to play out with those first twenty seven picks. Yeah. I think to me, I'm with you guys on the options.

I am because I think that when you start talking about pushing players, will it be the players that fall in your in your need? Yeah? Is it? Is it gonna be? Is it gonna be? Is it gonna push a defensive end? Is it gonna push a cornerback? Is it gonna push a safety? I thought our mock draft was really good yesterday, kind of talking about you know, the possibility of a decision that you know on the clock. You know they've got their stack together and the way

they want to do it. But the discussion we had in our stack was, you know, do you take McKinley, or do you take the cornerback Jackson? You know, And so I feel like that that they've got that all worked out. I really really do believe that they've got that all worked out. But I again, I think it's

about options. And I think and that's a really good point in the sense that even let's say the quarterbacks go early and push guys now, like, regardless of what happens, they're going to have their choice between one, two, three guys that they feel pretty good about, Like they're not going to get completely wiped out because they've done enough work. We've seen the list of guys who've been in here. One of those guys will be there. I'm multiple of

those guys will be there. I'm confident of that. But the path that gives you the most options is the one where you can, you know, if a quarterback's there that you can trade away from. We'll have three quarterbacks off the board by the time we get to the Cowboys range. It's just does a team like Deshaun Kaiser enough. Yeah, you know, Davis Webb has been rumored as a possible late first round er. Yeah, I think those two quarterbacks the ones to watch and I just have a hard

time seeing them go in the late first. But you never know, yeah, that it just takes one team. You know. It's so we've we've seen teams, you know, line up and take guys that we didn't think, like, well that was a little bit of a little stretched there, a little reach. I think teams. You know, I said it

was gonna be a crazy draft. Anybody want to argue with me that it against me that it won't that teams are just gonna stand in there and make picks and we're gonna just kind of like orderly go along here. No because and sorry if I cut you off, Dane. But even if there's not a whole bunch of jumping around and stuff. The thing that makes it crazy we were I was talking about this with a scout less than three hours ago. It's like nobody there's no consensus

on who should go where one team. So that's what's gonna make this so much fun. That's what it's gonna make it's crazy. Is you know, we think Solomon Thomas is two overall, somebody else is like, oh, maybe eight, or maybe somebody likes litter Leonard Fournette. Some people will have him as the third best back going in the seventeen to twenty range. Somebody's got him going too so, and I haven't come across a consensus opinion about anybody

except for Miles Garrett's. It's it's about the quarterbacks. Quarterbacks of the storyline of every first round, especially this year because Okay, perfect example, Deshaun Watson, I haven't number four in my mock draft. Kind of a just a possibility. The Jaguar has been We're into lake one of these quarterbacks, so I think that's a possible fit. But you see other Monk drafts and to Shaun Watson's going twenty five, right, you know. I mean, they're just a huge variance with

these quarterbacks and where they're going to end up. I still think we'll see three in the top fifteen with Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes where who knows trades? What are the Brown's gonna do with that twelfth pick? Miles Garrett's going number one and in the Browns state pad at twelve

and hope the right quarterback falls to them. Maybe they go in different direction altogether, but they're calling around because they want to see if they can trade up and get the quarterback if that is true, Bisky or you know, whoever they have, whoever they want to get. But they're not the only team making these calls and looking to go up and get that quarterback. Several teams are doing that. Yeah.

I think that you know, we clearly gave you the idea that if the Cowboys there at twenty eight were looking for tradeback scenarios, it would have to be the offensive tackles. Yeah, and they would have to be the quarterbacks. All right, let me talk about those offensive tackles then, Dane, some of the maybe a bold eight minute you know you would make. Would you say that several three the

offensive tackles would go before the Cowboys pick. I think four. Well, I guess if you include four offensive linemen, I think Forrest Lamp is in that mix. Ye, some teams like him as a tackle, but I think four offensive linemen will be off the board by twenty eight, maybe even top twenty five when you talk about Garrett Bowles, Forest Lamp, Cam Robinson and then Ryan Ramcheck. So this is a tackle starved league in a draft not very he uh

not Mary made tackles that warrant first round consideration. So if you don't get your guy early, you're out of luck. And so those guys are gonna go very quickly off the board. I don't think that there's gonna be a tackle available for a trade up option at twenty eight. It's gonna have to be that quarterback then, and hey, that's fine with me, and you can kind of you can get both things going for you can keep your

quarterback that provides you with the trade option. How let those tackles come off the board and pushed good defenders down to twenty eight. I'm fine with that. How about the wide receivers that I'm not saying that's gonna be a trade up scenario, but we haven't had many drafts where wide receivers have been and this is not a bad group of receivers, just banged up. Yeah, it's a really banged up group of receivers. So its mainly that's

I don't know. He could go nine, he could go top ten, but he could also fall out of the first round because it just comes down to team's comfort with the not only the medical records, but just his durability moving forward. I mean, he's not a big guy. We know that obviously, but he is prone to injuries, and it's something that I can make the argument he's the most explosive offensive weapon in this draft. I can

make that argument, But again, at what cost? At what point do you feel comfortable drafting a player who is such an injury risk. Yeah, I don't think Corey Davis's injury problems are it's not. But going back to the earlier point, which is that I've you know, I've seen people consider him anywhere from a top five pick to late first round just between the injury history and then you know how valuable is receiver for these teams that

are picking. I just nobody seems to have a consensus on anything, and I think more so than the trades. I think that's what's gonna make this really interesting. If we determined it, he would be the one offensive guy or would we talk about O. J. Howard? But there is there is there is there a twenty eight If one of those off, one of those offensive guys would drive us away from a defensive player Davis Howard. Am I right about that or is it just Howard? I

would it would? I mean, and it would depend on who's there. I would be really hesitant to take Corey Davis. I think we talked about this one or two shows ago, just based on what's already there and what you have. I mocked him taking Curtis Samuel in the second round, so like, I'm not opposed to taking an offensive player at all, but a true wide receiver. Again, you know, we've talked about the number of roles that Curtis Samuel can fill, but a true why receiver who's gonna play

wide receiver. I don't know how you spend a first round pick on that with what you've already got in place, not just this year, but I mean, like I said, your top three receivers are in place for multiple years. It'd be tough though to pass Corey Davis though, wouldn't it. I don't think you can. But everything, uh that that they've said is correct. I mean, there's only so many touches to go around on offense, and you know we

can roll out in different packages. But you know you're paying your wide receiver to X amount of money back. I mean, does is your one? Just where is he going to play? When you have Beasley in the slot. It's you have a crowded depth chart there already. I mean, maybe that's the when you can feel the calls get a trade to happen. Yeah, but the tied end makes more sense if somehow which oj Howard's not fall and he's not gonna fall. That's that's why I mean, he's

not gonna fall. Okay, Well, it appears that the time is running down for us to begin this alfwards a spectacle. Yes, absolutely again. You see how many people are like out in the street. It's all it is right there. So the clock is winding down until Commissioner Goodell will come to the podium, podium, excuse me, and he is making his way there now and he will open this eighty second NFL draft. Oh, Commissioner Goodell's being booed in Phillyum's stunning.

Come on, Philly, come on there you go, go on, wwe on him. Bence McMahon, We are thrilled to be back here at Philadelphium, where the first draft was held nearly eighty years ago. So tonight we celebrate the great game that we all love, and we celebrate as NFL dreams come true. So it sounds like you're ready? Are you ready? The NFL Draft for twenty seventeen is officially open. The Cleveland Browns are on the clock, Thank you very much, Commissioner.

So well does this clock yeah, over under eight minutes that Cleveland takes to make this pick. Well we will see. Cleveland, in fact, is on the clock right now. Unless there's a trade, it should be over under eighty seconds. You know. That's the one thing when uh, when I was able to run the draft in Philadelphia in nineteen night was ninety eight draft. If you go back and check who made their first round pick the quickest, it was me.

I don't have time for I did. I just gotta you look at the time everybody took their fifteen minutes. I think I turned my card in it nine minutes. I just I said, I looked at everybody self had enough. Do you like the Do you like the player Tray Thomas Florida today? Yeah, Trey Thomas, Florida State offensive tackle. We took in that draft for Philadelphia and and I get I. I Everybody's like, gosh, why'd you? And it did so quick, and I'm like, I got tired of

waiting around. I just we read the eleventh pick and I'm like, you know what, that's the most Brian brought us thing I've ever heard. I just I don't have all days. I don't have all day for this. I knew I wanted to take, and so we took. So the Brownies are on the clock. We think, we think, or do we know, Dane Brugler, that this pick is going to be Miles Garrett. This is the NFL Draft.

We don't know one hundred percent anything. But if this, if the commission says any other name at number one to the Cleveland Browns, any other name but Miles Garrett, it would be a complete shock. Well, we're seeing the they're showing shots of the Cleveland Browns war room as we speak. Uh they are. They look very comfortable. Hugh Jackson. Uh, they all look very relaxed, like they know exactly what

they're gonna do. Hopefully they will make the pick. They're on the clock, as I said, there at eight minutes as we speak right now. I mean, this isn't news to anybody, but this rundown of their first round picks. Yeah, brutal. Yeah, they've had some they have had some tough Richardson. Yeah, Gilbert Man's big thing. There's like four different general managers across that. That's the biggest problem that is they in

the front office. But the one thing you could say about the Cowboys is that that in the last several years, the drafts have improved because the continent continuity of the coaching staff has remained the same. The general manager, of course, has always been the same. But now you know with Will McClay and everybody's becoming more comfortable with that. When you continue to change schemes, change coaches, change general managers, your scheme, you're all those things are gonna are just

gonna wear you down. Uh, and you're not going to be able to grab the type of player or had build a roster with any consistency, right, And I think that's a credit to you know, ownership and just understanding that understanding that you need that continuity, you need time to let these guys do their jobs. And that's a lot of owners don't have patience, and talking about Cleveland, they don't have patience, and so that happens, so a lot of these guys get run out of town and

they don't have a chance to develop anyone. And so hopefully, you know, at the new regime there in Cleveland, the analytics approach Hugh Jackson at his coach head coach. Hopefully they just give him a chance to go through a few drafts, build a team, see what happens. They just talk a little bit. I mean, we really haven't got

to focus much because Miles Garrett. Of course, you know, we feel like he's a top three pick, so we haven't talked a whole lot about But when you sat down and watch Miles Garrett's game, what did and you had to look at tape where you had to kind of say, well, is he healthy or not? You know

that was always going to be the question. Well, the moment last year's draft ended, Miles Garrett was the number one player in this draft from the start, and so going into the year, I mean I'm following him out the season and I was watching that Arkansas game when he took that cut block and injured his lower left leg, and you could tell he just wasn't the same. After that the Alabama game, he was maybe seventy percent. So you know that it is important. But the season opener

against UCLA, I mean I thought he was outstanding. I mean you watch him, he's a heightweight, speed freak. And then you also factor in he knows what he's doing. I mean, he understands how to use his hands, use his leverage. You know, he's not just a guy that relies on the physical gifts. He understands how to do the dance. And I think for a player that just turned twenty one years old, that's going to continue to

grow and develop. And so you're excited about who Miles Garrett is right now, but you're pumped about who he could be two three years from now. This would just be the most classic case. And I'm not I'm not saying Myles Garrett it's definitely going to be an all pro. But like, just don't overthink it. It's it's right there for you. No, I've said this is the easiest decision of team picking number one has had since twenty twelve Andrew Luck in the Colts. I mean you look at

last year. I mean some people would say clown. I would say Khalil Mack was right there. I mean this year, we don't have a Khalil Mack. That's really challenging Myles Garrett to be the top guy. So this take the past rusher and listen, we talk about Cleveland and how they've been searching for that quarterback since ninety nine. Cleveland hasn't had a legit pass rusher since the seventies. Yeah, I mean that talking about the number two position on

the roster. They have not had a guy that's had back to back double digit sacks seasons or you know, just a defensive presence off the edge that teams worry about. And so to get a guy like Myles Garrett who could be that player, it's a big win for this organization. It doesn't matter what happens the rest of the draft, that the Browns are a winner in the draft if they take Miles Garrett number one. Well, they're showing the currently they're showing the Cleveland Browns draft table, and there's

no movement there on the table. I think they're just gonna let this, uh this clock wind down and then hand their card in. But why wait, though, Yeah, why wait to whole ten minutes? Great, you know they've they've been on the clock since like a bit or something. Well, I mean, well, to play Devil's advocate, I mean, give teams a chance and absolutely yeah yeah not me. Not when I was I yeah, i was, I'm like you know what, I didn't feel like anybody wanted my eleventh pick.

I was just gonna go ahead and make that that. But but Dan, you you talked about it, and you're you're you're you know, you're an Ohio kid, and you you know you talk about with with with Milescate really what he means they need to get off that quarterback train. Now they got the twelfth pick, but that's it. But but you need a player like Miles Gary, and I just I keep hearing that, yeah, they need a quarterback. Well, they have picks twelve and thirty three and even sixty

five to find a guy if they want to. And there you go. I mean, they're loaded with picks where you can get a quality quarterback. There's no need to do something stupid here. Pick is well, the pick is in.

So we've got to keep an eye on commissioner at Godell Goodell excuse me going to the podium and announcing the pick here, but uh, we all seem to believe that this pick will will be Miles Garrett hexas a and there will be thirty one NFL teams that with their just a ghast if this is not Myles Garrett, that will be shocked. Yeah, if that, if this is not the pick here. It's not just us on the outside.

Thirty one NFL teams will be shocked. Yeah, there's there's folks in uh in San Francisco right now or kind of thinking they're hoping, you know. But this is where you do your you do your football research. This is where you have your sources. This is where you have guys that you kind of talk with, whether it's scouts whoever, you know, at other teams. You have an idea of

what Cleveland is probably gonna do here. So maybe no surprise for the forty nine ers if Myles Garrett in fact is and we all believe that, I mean we feel like that, you know, all along this is really your number one guy, though, isn't it Dane without a doubt? Okay, well, here's the commissioner and he's walking to the chess pieces are flying in the air with the first pick in the two seventeen NFL Draft, But Cleveland Browns select Miles Garrett.

All right, there you go, tas all right, Miles Garrett, thank you, Cleveland. Yeah, we're just doing what's smart. How about just doing your job? Is that what you're saying? Do your job? So the Cleveland Browns, in fact, take Miles Garrett, and like I said, it really I mean, obviously they Browns have a lot of picks. They want to hit home runs at these picks. It doesn't matter who else they pick. They just hit a home run

for this draft. And this draft will be remembered as the one where they took Miles Garrett number one overall. And I think he's gonna make a huge impact from day one. This is a guy you want on your football team. It's gonna be interesting now what they do at twelve if they want to move up and try to get that quarterback. And that's actually I've been you know, in my not that I'm the expert that Dane Brugler is, but in the mock draft that I did, I had

them taking Deshaun Watson twelve. Pick whatever quarterback you want, and pick whatever spot you want. If even if you want to trade up to five and get rid of you know, get rid of a pick or two to get that, you can do whatever you want now because you have a surefire guy and Miles Garrett, nobody's going to criticize what you do to get your quarterback. Now that you've landed the draft's best player. Absolutely, And remember

who's the new defensive coordinator for the Browns, Greg Williams. Yeah, talk about a guy who thrives on pressure. Yeah, I mean it's it's a good fit for that football team. It's amazing how all these rumors came out about Traubisky and you just wonder where all that came from, because I think this has been a no brainer. I don't think they wavered this is the best player in the draft. But like I said, now we have to watch the

Browns see what they do. If they want to creep up, get the number three, get the number five, get the quarterback, or if maybe they just go without a quarterback in the first round, who knows? What do you think? All right? And the popular one is they jump up to five and trade with Tennessee what would it cost that costing you thirty three and thirty three and probably a two next year. Let me do that just going off the Cowboys chart, thirty three worth thirty three is worth that.

We've talked about thirty three before. That's worth five eighty. Yeah, so you go five eighty and you're trying to go from that's that's five is worth seventeen hundred, So you're trying to go from twelve to five. Is that what you want to do? David? Yep, what's twelve worth? Twelve is worth? Twelve is worth twelve hundred. So you'd be overpaying a little bit. Oh so thirty three might get it there, thirty three you could get, or you could

do fifty two and then another pick maybe. Really, I think you want to do it as clean as possible. I agree. I think you just want to do it as clean as possible and that and that's really that's the point I'm trying to make here is Miles Garrett is already in the bag. You've got him, You've got the draft's best player. If you're giving up thirty three to go get the quarterback you like the most, who cares? And here's the thing about thirty three is it's not

just a normal draft pick. It's that first pick in the second round, and it's a huge, huge power play when you have that thirty third pick. Yeah, and that was I'll tell you what though. That's Ah, we'll be uh, we'll see, we'll see if Cleveland in fact finds a way to get to ten of a trade. Okay, okay with Chicago two, and we feel like that Chicago Dane Burglar's been on this one for about three weeks. Now, okay, quarterback, quarterback, I've this is the one. The only reason. Does that

mean San Francisco was going to take a quarterback? I think they probably trade a trade of the Browns from twelve to two two. I hear you see, Okay the brown Okay, it says now the Bears have acquired this second pick from the forty nine ers. Do you think they're worried about? I mean, okay, now we're into the Ford Center war room camp you could you've got that.

Everybody's in position there. Okay, this now counts spiffy. It looks yeah, very very spiffy in there with Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett's Stephen Jones up talking to to folks, some visitors there in the war room. We'll give you the roster rundown as as we go around. It looks like Jessey Junior's sons. Yes, Jerry Junior's son James is in the war room as well, on the table. So this has to be a quarterback, right, I mean, you're not trading up for Jamal Adams, especially if you were already

picking three to begin with. You know, I would think that this would be for Trubisky. I would think it would be And Dane, I was about to give you full credit for being on this. Do you feel good about this? That is a quarterbacker? You feel like that they're going. Now, let's check out the Chicago Bears needs from Dane Brugler here. Cornerback, safety, possibly, I said, cornerback, safety, quarterback, offensive tackle, wide receiver, and linebacker. That would be the

Chicago Bears once again. Cornerback safety. They signed a Mukamara, Cooper and Demps, but they need more help there. So possibly right there, corner safe. I mean, that's who I thought could be in play. But there's I said this. Uh. You know a couple like a month ago, there was a team in the NFC North who during their draft meetings, they said that they were consensus. They all thought Chicago was taking a quarterback at three and they got to beat TRABISKI. Yeah, and I kind of, I mean I

put that out there. I kind of kind of told Chicago fans listen, they teams think that this is going to be a quarterback. I don't know what do you think. Let's see what they gave up here? So they gave up a third, they gave they gave up a boatload here, gave with a third overall pick, a third round pick seven overall, Oh my god, fourth round pick, which would be they go sticking up sixty seven one to eleven at a two thousand and eighteen round pick. Hate, Whatever

is happening right now? You're trying to tell me that I can't get sixty five from a team trying to come up six spots, but they just jumped one and they're giving up all this. Yeah, this is insane. Yeah, well, I wonder what they're worried about that another team training up. Are they worried about someone someone that maybe San Francisco has a deal on the table. This has got to be for Trubisky. It has to be. It has to be.

It has to be giving up this much. They're probably they might be worried about a team going up to San Franciso. They probably had to give a ransom that they just did for them to get this spot. They obviously were worried about somebody, okay, coming up from behind and getting maybe the Jets, you know, maybe the Jets at six going all the way to two. Let me ask you this, if is San Francisco calling Chicago like, hey, this offers on the table from the Jets. Yeah, you know,

I've seen Jerry Jones do this before. I've seen him play two teams off each other. And we and and Jerry got a general in, both the general managers to admit who they were going to take, and they and let's not forget that the Bears just signed Mike Glennon to a pretty hefty contract. Yeah. Thing with that, I mean with any contract, I mean money. I know you can get out of it if you need to, because it's, okay,

basically a one year contract. Okay, the picks in, the picks in from the Bears, Oh Dane, real quick, though, if give me a thumbnail, if in fact you've been on this, give me a thumbnail about Trubisky, if in fact you know just a little bit an idea about the player. One year starter that's been beaten to death. We know that. But what's his fatal flaw besides the thirteen starts? I mean, I think he checks all the

boxes what you want an NFL quarterback. I think with the Bears, It's a great situation for him because Mike Lennon is a quarterback this year, not Mitchell Trubisky, right, And Mike Lennon might be the quarterback in two thousand and eighteen. It just depends how they want to play this. But we have a commission going to the podium right now. Yeah, here we go, gets commission to podium. Here's the commissioner Whitney. Second pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Chicago

Bears select Mitchell Trubisky. There you go, hello, Mitchell Trubisky. Well, good job there, Dane Brugo. You were on that one very very early, but you had it at three. If everybody stay in put only I did that in my final mock draft. Sometimes you get talked out of that, don't Yeah I did. Yeah, Well that's can we for a real quick sec um. Considering all of the criticism that he drew upon his hiring, I have a much higher opinion of John Lynch right now than I did

fifteen minutes ago. Anybody with me? Yeah, I mean about what do you say to pull off? Yeah? Yeah? He just fleeced the Bears for one one, one spot from three to two. He just got a half a draft's worth of picks for and I don't have that high an opinion of Mitchell Trubisky. Maybe that's part of it, um, but I just that's unbelievable to me. Like, what did the Bears know? I mean, yeah, that's have you ever I don't remember. Must have really been worried about somebody.

Like I said, they must have been worried about a team coming from uh, from far back and trying to make a run. Now, look at the team that's got two first round picks. Would you consider I mean, I just I'm throwing it out there, Dave New Orleans, Yeah, with something. I mean, you know, maybe maybe Sean Payton makes an aggressive play up the board to try and get the quarterback of the future there right. You know, you just don't know. He probably felt like he had

to do something. And the Bears fans, you got a draft party going on in Chicago right now, and the and the uh, the Bears fans are some are very happy, some are plotting the pick, some are uh, hands in the in their face. But for every unhappy person that looked like there were several And I just I hope that they knew something and they didn't just do that because they were worried. You only have to wait one

more pick. Yeah, And for that matter, i mean, who's this If the Bears gave up all that to get to two, I mean, what would the Saints have had to have given up to get from eleven? Well, that's what I'm saying. Then you probably give up a first but yeah, you got eleven and thirty two, but you might maybe have to give up more than that. Exactly you might have. But let's recap that trade San Francisco.

In the trade, they pick up the third pick overall, and then they also get the Bears third round pick, that's number sixty seven. And then they also get the Bears, if I'm not mistaken here, their fourth round pick, which would be pick let me flipped to it here real quick, that'd be pick yeah, the fourth round pick, pick one eleven, and then next year's three. So what to pick up A three, A four, and next year's three for that trade? So the Niners go back to back at sixty six

and sixty seven. Now that's that's that's what they got. Good for them? Yea, yeah, that's exactly what that's. Hey, make sure that that's how you say yes, yes they do. That's how you turn your crappy roster around real fast. And there you go. So the forty nine ers are now on the clock after the trade with UH the Bears. Okay, let's talk about forty nine er needs UH after all of this, Yeah, they can still like who are the guys that they've all the obviously all the guys they've

been linked to are still there. If you want Solomon Thomas, yes you want them all Adams, if you want who I mean, I wouldn't take him at three. But if you want Leonard Fournette, he's there. Yeah, go for it. That that rumor has been too I've heard it too much. The you're thinking you're to forty nine. I don't like that. Okay, but what about sticking with the same team, Yeah, getting the safety Yeah, and that makes a lot of sense,

makes a lot of sense. Okay, as you're looking right there at the Ford Center war room cam, I'll identify everybody in the room in the in the frame there as were looking from the left corner coming around, that's Lionel vital Uh and the and the left corner right there really a National Scout long time executive Lionel I were together at NFL Europe. Dear a friend of you, yea dear friend of mine. Great guy, great scout, he's

a he's a nice addition. He came in with the team last year, so this is his first full year with the team. So good to see him in the chair. Of course, there's a Jerry Junior and his son are there, and now the war room cam goes away as I was as I was trying to identify everybody there, but you get the idea of we'll we'll fill, we'll get it,

we'll get it back and get it back exactly. So yeah, they were just, uh, maybe they're listening to what we're talking about, and they said, well, maybe we need to turn that away for some reason. But anyway, okay, San Francisco, Uh, here's an offense that was Their past offense was thirty second to the league. Run offense was fourth in the league. Past defense was fourteenth and run defense was thirty second. And it looks like the needs would be the quarterback, cornerback,

inside linebacker, defensive end, and running back. All along game we've kind of thought this could be where Solomon Thomas goes. Yeah, talk about and and and a switch in scheme right going to a fourth three, scoring to a fourth three scheme. Uh, and you know kind of running that that Seattle scheme. And who do we compare Salomon Thomas Michael Bennett style? Right inside, outside, right, impact the game the front from different ways. You know, That's that's who Solomon Thomas is.

And so if you're going to get this new regime they're kicking off this, uh, you know, this new era of forty nine ers football. I don't think he can go wrong with Salomon Thomas. You know, you can't go wrong with a player who you're talking about just on the field. He's about off the field, the leadership that he that he has, that he presents the locker room. I think it'd be a home run pick. Dave. You

know what you've seen of Salomon Thomas. You like with Dane's saying there, don't you the flexibility to play defensive, end, to kick inside, never come off the field, a little pass rush, especially if you're moving to a four to three. The main question I have about Solomon Thomas is what does that do for Eric Armstead and DeForrest Buckner. Yeah, are your other pac twelve first round picks that they've accumulated over the years. Yeah, I'm and hey, you can

never have too many. I mean that's don't obviously, don't let that stop you from drafting another pass rusher. But I'm curious to see how that line would look with those three guys. Yeah, well, the pick is in. We're gonna get it from the commissioner. I'll finish up with you real quick. As you look over to war room camp Charlotte Jones, Anderson right there next to Jason Garrett, Jerry Jones, of course, Stephen Jones. There's Will McClay at

the top of the table. To the left of Stephen Jones, Chris Hall, the college scouting coordinator, Todd Williams football operations and contracts guys. So that's all the guys at the main tables. Add lady at the main table. As you see what's going on there in the war room right now. Okay, it's like I said, the pick is in for San Francisco. We feel like this is gonna be Solomon Thomas. I I you might we talked again about the safety, but but we just liked the We like the flexibility of Thomas.

Here don't we anytime? I feel like any time you change to a new scheme. Yeah, hey, what did the Cowboys do when they moved to the three four? They got where? Got where? Exactly? Kind of set the absolute absolutely so, uh that's uh. David Shaw. If you're watching the NFL network coverage of this, David Shaw is a head coach at Stanford. He is on the panel that's handling this first round. Commissioners now at the podium pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the San Francisco forty

nine ers select Solomon Thomas. There you go, defensive end Stanford. All right, Salomon Thomas, uh from uh Copel High School? Ye, that's right. Hey, the first of the own the second excuse me of the Dallas guys. Yeah, and so it's right of a third here pretty quickly. Yeah. I think it's nice to see nice to see him selected just as a quality guy, just a quality, quality guy, as a pure Homer. I don't, I don't. I don't like how Dallas claims Jamal Williams he's he's a Louisiana guy,

Well Adams, Jamal Williams. Oh I was listening to an interview, did yes, thank you, and Jamal Adams said that Texas easily the best state in the nation. I mean, he's just he's from here. I get it, guy, So I'm gonna claim him. I don't care. I don't blame you. Heck of a player who you know, he's not gonna have to wait long to hear his name come off the board. All right, Suliman Thomas has gone. That brings up an interesting scenario here for Jacksonville. Who Yeah, complete

wild I mean all these teams have been wild cards. Yeah. This, you know, the trade was huge. That that was amazing. I'm still kind of trying to wrap my brain around it. Yeah, I mean it's something that the to what they had to give up, they must have been really scared. The Browns are trying to get up to two, right, Yeah, I made this. I made this, the talk about the Maybe it was just hey, yeah, the Brownies were trying to get there. Maybe that was somebody somebody just retweeted this.

And by the for anybody listening, like, tweet at me, hit me up on Twitter. I'm multitasking. I want y'all to be a part of this um. But somebody just retweeted per their model moving from second to third. Overall, as were thirty four points in the grand scheme of things, and the forty nine ers got three hundred and sixteen extra points. Like that's much more of the Bears gave up. Yeah, the Bears were, they were concerned, and Dane's right, I mean I had teams in the middle, but we talked

about the Browns. To me, didn't look like they were. Yeah, they were celebrating, like they weren't doing anything. That's why I kind of I left the Browns when I saw the Browns war room and everybody's up high five and nobody was locked in. If they sat there and kind of we're all owned in. You were thinking, Okay, they're trying to get the second pick here. But I just didn't see that. So I didn't feel like the Brownies were the team involved. But anyway, nice job, nice job

by them to make that work. Oh and something else, not really related to that, but really interesting. I got retweeted into my timeline too. Philadelphia police estimate that that crowd we saw seventy thousand people. That's great, that's like twice what the Chargers are gonna draw. Yeah, there, that's more than basically every NFL stadium, but like Cowboys and the Rams, if they sold out, right, like, there's only like maybe three stadiums in the NFL that seat more

than that. That's crazy. Yeah, that that is uh, that is uh okay. So Jacksonville is on the clock and actually the pick is in from Jacksonville. Dained a couple of different We've heard some rumors about litterd Fournett. Yeah, it is. I wouldn't even call that a rumor. I think you say that's a that's a that's gonna be some truth. I just of the spots. I mean, I know that there was a late push for him to go to which I never believed. But you see him

in Jacksonville and you see him in Carolina. Those are the two spots. Yeah, at least at the top of the board where you see him go the most often. I mean, well, Tom, Yeah, I used to work with Tom Coughlin, and Tom wants he's trying to make his football team tougher. That's important. That is really really important. Well, let's talk about Leonard Fournette, Dave. I'll let you because you know we're a lumps. I don't like talking about Leonard because I'm so hopelessly biased. I think he talked

about him. He's a freak he's and he's not. Obviously he's not Miles Garrett, but like he's. I think he's every bit as freakishly athletic as Garrett in terms of what he can do for a guy his size. And I think, if you really want me to put on my purple and gold glasses. Yeah, And he got a bum rap in twenty sixteen because he hurt his ankle in preseason camp. He was gimpy from the get go. He's playing on a team that did not have a viable passing threat, so he was basically what everybody knew

to target every time they played LSU. And he was hurt for half the year, and he still had a pretty damn good season. Thinking he finished shy of a thousand yards, but not buy a lot. Yeah, I just he's powerful, he's fast as hell. He can make you miss. I know there's there are people that are going to tell me that he can only run what he's blocked for.

I don't buy that. I'm not saying he's Adrian Peterson, but I honestly I think he's been in the spotlight for so long that his warts are so public that they are everybody see the violent runs. Yeah, I mean this is cliche, but throw on the tape. Yeah, I'll I don't know if I would. I wouldn't have taken him at two. Yeah, I don't even know if i'd take him at four. But I like him a lot. Okay, Dane other needs you talk about offensive tackle, tight end, quarterback,

defensive line, and guard. But here's the thing about the Jaguars is they don't have that glaring need for a team that's so bad. They had a lot of high picks except for quarterback. Well what about and for the last like three days, you've kind of heard rumblings about Deshaun Watson all the way up if yeah, yeah, and we feel about that. I mean, that's where I went with my mock. But I think with the running back, I mean, if it's kind of what Tom Coughlin wants,

he wants a physical Okay, here's the commission. Yeah, we're gonna find out Whitney. Fourth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Leonard Fournett. Oh, there we go, running. Wow, how about Leonard Fournette, Tom Coughlin. It's funny because maybe he's maybe he's the answer to help. All right, Blake Bortles. Huh, let me throw this out there at you, uh team picking fourth overall? Yeah, a lot of pieces in place. Yep, sounds familiar. Had a

disappointing season the year before. Right, you can't point to a super glaring need. So you're what you're saying that Jaguars are gonna draft just Dobbs in the fifth round and go to the freakin for get a buy in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, I mean, at the end of the day, if you don't trust your quarterback, that's a problem. And I don't know if Blake Bortles is the answer, but if there's one guy who can help Blake. But they got the receivers in place. Their line's not terrible,

it's not awful. Right, Yeah, well, day talking about we might use some help at tackle. We got stage yet there. But yeah, in terms of this pick, you know you're not gonna take a tackle here. Yeah, they do need help on the offensive line. And look, this gives all right, what this pick is is hard tackle, really, right, And what this pick is, this is a notice to Blake Bortles. Oh yeah, hey this they're trying to help it. Yeah, we're probably not going to pick up your fifth year option.

We're not gonna pay you what eighteen million dollars whatever the fifth year option is. It's it's crazy money and Blake Portles hasn't earned it. But okay, so you're gonna enter this year in the last season of your deal. We just gave you a thumper at running back, a guy that can you know, be your Ezekiel Elliott. Hopefully this is your shot show us you're an NFL quarterback, because if you don't, then you know you're going to

be a backup next year somewhere else. So this is this is a notice to Blake Bortles that, hey, this is your shot. Let's see what you can, see what you can do. And I mean it's funny because last year when the Cowboys picked Zeke, I was I mean, I was all aboard that Zeke train. But for another team, I'm just like, um, maybe you could have found something better to do with that for overall pick. But Leonard Fournette will help that team. He will help Blake Bortles.

He gives them an identity. It's the same stuff we've heard coming out of this building for the last two or three years. Is that hard nosed, smash mouth identity. I mean, he can be that guy. So if if he can transform the way they play and like the culture around here or around there, the way that Ezekiel Elliott did. I have a hard time knocking to pick. Yeah, I personally I like the pick. Yeah, even though I had you liked the player, Brian, I had, Well, I'm

like you, Dave, I get what you guys go to school. Yeah, exactly, I get. I feel like I can't be overly. I feel like I'm more critical of LSU players than I am nice, you know, So I just I want to I want to be able to. I want to be able to say what I feel about this kid. I think he's gonna have to work on the pass protection part of it. I think he's gonna have to work on the catching part. But I don't think they asked him to do all that. I think the run is

clearly his strength. The physical reality about that, Yeah, but I think you know, the complete back stuff is going to have to be is gonna have to be worked on here, and you know, and I'm okay with that. I mean, if anybody I say, you, you put up a pretty good, uh, a pretty good comparison of what,

you know, what Jacksonville is thinking about. I mean, they saw exactly, they saw exactly what happened when you pair a running back, you know, with a quarterback that but you know, not that you know, they were they were sit a situation too where uh you know, they're they need to they need to see what they have in their quarterback. They do and you know Tom Coughlin, Uh you know we we were kind of wondering what type of impact would he have on this team? Is the

front office? I think this kind of matches. You know when Tom Coughlin was winning Super Bowls. Right, they have a pretty strong run game, right, Absolutely, that's what they want to get back to. Uh. You know, Chris Ivory has not panned out when they signed gave him all that money free agency. T J. Yelden has been a flash player here and there. Uh, now you have your Bell cow, a guy who you know, let's let's see

if he could be a truth three down player. Uh. You know, I think you're you're correct in saying that he wasn't. He didn't really have the chance to, you know, prove he's a capable pass catcher on a consistent basis. But he's going to get that chance. He's gonna get the opportunity. And if you ask what he has to work on to be you know, we raved about Ezekiel Elliott as a catcher and as a blocker. Oh yeah, I mean we raved well and I mean did he but we saw it? Yeah, we saw it at Ohio State.

You know, we were trying to at LSU felt like that maybe they should have used him more, should have maybe tried to use him some more in the passing game. And that well, I mean, Brian you know better than any oh, I know. That's why he got a dynamic office. That's why. Okay, the Tennessee Titans are on the clock. They're in a minute thirty interested if they're they're gonna stay here. Well, this is a pick that they got from the LA Rams and the trade last year. Right,

Tennessee's been trying to move back. Um, so I think I stay put, make a pick. It didn't any trade off. You're getting to the point now where you're gonna have to stand in there, make a pick because you're you're inside a minute. This is where we look at the secondary, right yeah, this is this is absolutely where you start to look at the secondary. Let me fire off the team needs for you right there, if I could. That's what they're looking at them in the war room right

now of the Tennessee Titans. Cornerback, corner back, wide receiver, inside linebacker, tight end, guard and center, some type of combination there. They need a guard. They need a guard. So cornerback, wide receiver, inside linebacker, tight end, center, guard, some type of combination inside thirty seconds right now, and have yet to hand in their card. And this is the spot where we all were just talking. This was

a popular trade theory. Yes, yeah, and so I think you know, we think in secondary here yes, I mean it's so it just comes down to they have a need a corner. They do Marshawn Lattimore, he's see he's the number one corners. It just comes down to are they comfortable with the injury situation? Yeah, you know, not many players have hamstring surgery. You know, you hear about tender hamstrings and all that. This guy had a hamstring surgery. It's been an issue that he's had back in since

high school. But if the medical staff thumbs up, you know, this shouldn't be an issue. You know, dbs are often banged up. As long as this is guy we think can play and he's gonna start fourteen to sixteen games every year, then it can't be. It's not going to be a bad pick. Let's talk about Tennessee. The pick is in for them. Their offense. Their pass offense was twenty fifth in the league. Run offense was third, and that's because they have a mobile quarterback I think was

moving to be able to remove around. Defense was past defense was thirtieth, and run defense was second. So usually if you're bad in the pass, you're pretty good in the run. So let's see if in fact, again, then eds are they talked about from Dane Brugler cornerback, wide receiver, inside linebacker and tight end and center guard combination. And let's remember they have the eighteenth pick as well, so they need a weapon for Mariota. But you don't have

to do that here. There's no excuse for them not being pretty damn good this year. And I mean they were pretty I mean they were nine and seventeen last year and they probably make the playoffs if Mariota doesn't get hurt down the stretch in that division. Yeah. Actually, you know when it's interesting, Dane, you have wide receiver as a need though. Is it something though that they don't have enough weapons for Mariota? That to me, that's I mean, you know, we talk about Matthews sharp or saw,

but neither really spectacular. No, they need a DeMarco Murray came in and did a hell of a job for them. Pro bowler Derrick Henry. I mean they have they have weapons. Yeah, they need to get the one true weapon as as a pass came right. Commissioners at this podium seventeen NFL Draft the Tennessee Titans. Corey Davis. Hey, here you go, Corey Davis. Say, who's going crazy now? Jeff Kavanagh, Yeah, we did a monk. We did a mock on trust the tape. What they should do? They picked Corey Davis.

This is who they said they should take at five. Good for him? Did Oh man, my man is rocking the coral jacket. I think that's coral color. Oh he I saw him in the pre He looks fresh, looks fresh to death. Look good for him and Dan Dane kind of touched on this a minute ago, is they have pick eighteen, so they don't have to do this. But I love the fact that they did just go get who you think is the best playmaker in this draft, which I mean if you're drafting him top well, all right,

Fournette wasn't there. They didn't need a running back whatever, best wide receiver in the draft or one A to one B. You know. I love the fact that they go out there, they get their franchise quarterback, a guy to work with right away. You add him to Murray and Henry. They got Delaney Walker still doing Pro Bowl caliber stuff over there. I mean, like I said, the Titans should be somebody to reckon with this year, and

this only helps that. Yeah, he is fascinating. This is a player who we have not seen since ye since the Cotton Bowl. Yeah, he chose not to play the Senior Bowl. Right then he injured his ankle and he was out of the out of the combine, wasn't able to participate in in the Pro Day, and you know, he were hoping we'd be able to see him work out for scouts before this tonight the draft, but he

just wasn't able to. But it looks like he's walking fine, honestly to the commissioner right and and and talking to some trainers around the league about him and Dane. We got into this a little bit in the on one oh five three about the injury, that the fact he had screws, he had a plate. But everything looks very, very positive for him for him to be ready for the start of the season. He's really uh, you know, three weeks out, he'll start to train, he'll get ready

for training camp. So Corey Davis, he goes to the Tennessee Titans. Quick. We've been talking about the whole time. It's gonna be on predictable and a lot of fun. So far, Oh absolutely, I mean so far. In the top five picks, we have a wide receiver, We've had a trade, a big trade. Yeah, a quarterback comes off the board, running back off the board. This is what we this is what the draft's all about, and we don't know what's going to happen here, even in the

next five picks. And that's why it's fun. It's the ultimate reality TV. Yeah, it was. It was really really uh. We talked about again, I'm excited that I think there's gonna be more to this too. I think that we're gonna start getting into somewhere five in. Yeah, we're five in, and like, hang on, buckle up. The Jets always entertaining to what what they what they do? I think. And Mike mcagnany, my buddy from NFL Europe days with the London Monarchs, he might needs to have a good draft.

I mean, oh, there's a lot of guys that need to have a good draft. Mike mcagney. You need to have a really good draft. You've got to figure out things it needs to be done there with the Jets, is there a team in the NFL right now that has like less cause for optimism than the New York Jets? Yeah, I would, I think. I mean that's a good point. I think the Browns are going to come out of this draft with a quarterback, so Ill I said, I mean, I think the Browns have a more reason to be

excited about the future than the Jets right now. And it's all about the quarterback. Yeah, who's there. Josh McCown's going to be their opening day, opening week starter. And then what are you getting from Hackenburgh who you had in the second round last year. Who who's he throwing too?

Who's running behind him? No more Brandon Marshall. The offensive lines a mess like literally, I mean, great, you got you got some talent on defense, I guess, but that's not gonna win you Tom Brady's division and they have to build. And that's why I think the Jets are. I think they're content taking this year off. I mean, they they know they're gonna be bad, and so that's why I'm I don't think this will be a quarterback

you know, Deshaun Watson or Mahomes. But is here against my thought that Mike needs to have a good You think Mike's okay there? I think he is okay because what I mean, he's not going there's a team that's it's yeah, exactly, you're not going to make The Jets are not making the playoffs next year, Okay, if I'm wrong, I think the Jets are a favorite to be picking

first exactly, and I think they're okay with that. I think they are ready, as you know, Woody Johnson, the owner, you know, I think and it's not just Mike mccagnet's fault. I mean, look at the roster. He inherited. I mean, it's been a mess. Mike wants to do this the right way, and that means building around big time players. And here at number six, there are some big time

players available. Yeah about the three secondary players, right, Lattimore, Hooker, and Adams which I'm surprised Adams is not was not a top five player. Uh well, let's go. Let's go through the needs for the New York Jets. You know, once again, they were twenty seventh pass offense, twelve running the foot, twelfth running the football, seventeenth defending the pass, and eleven defending the run. So needs quarterback, which you don't think that they'll go that direction. Cornerback we talked

about that already. With the potential of Lattimore right there, Lattimore is still there. Here comes to safety. Free safety, strong safety for the Jets could be a possible that sets up nice for him with the safeties on the board, Wide receiver and center would be the would be the other needs for the New York Jets. I feel like, I mean, and that makes me feel like the next pick is a kid from Ohio State. That would be my guess, one or the other. You got Lattimore there.

You got hooker there, which would you like better? Real quick tweet right now from Ian Rappaport. Okay, Cleveland is trying to trade for Kirk Cousins. This is real. Okay, Wow, I'm gonna watch you. Okay, yeah, Rapports now talking. He's got it up there. Cleveland Browns attempting to trade for Redskins for Kirk Cousins. Okay, there's Mike m Folks can't see it because we're doing but Mike mcagnan, he looks very comfortable. He's talking to Todd Bulls right there, and

now he's talking to whoever he's selected. He's got near two minutes on the clocks. That looks like they're gonna hand this pick in. And okay, let's talk about that. If if Garoppolo, Cleveland tried with Garoppolo, Am I correct? And they couldn't get it pulled off of the twelfth if you're the Washington Redskins, that would give you no quarterback, but you would be in a situation where you'd have

the twelfth pick and the seventeenth pick. I think they might wait until the twelfth pick to do the trade to see what quarterback is at twelve if a Deshaun Watson or Pat Mahomes, if the quarterback they want is there at twelve, then maybe they do make the move in that way they can draft the quarterback. Just as

an aside. This is a fantastic example of why you have to cover every single base in draft prep because, I mean, Washing, if this is going to happen, Washington has to have a good grasp on what quarterback they would like between between Adams and Lattimore. If you had to go with the Jets, can you give me one between between Adams and Lattimore? Any corners the bigger need and they have a strong safety and Alvin Pryor first round a couple of years ago, But that should not

stop you from drafting Jamal Adams. I think corners the bigger need, but Adams is the better player. So which structure did they go with? Maybe the bigger need here, it's still a good player or maybe the better player. I would also argue that even if Adams is better than Lattimore, a cornerback is the more important positions between the two. But I mean, you can't go wrong with either one. Yeah, yeah, they signed Mo Claiborn. We remember that we've all. I mean, if they think that Moe

was gonna be healthy, I mean how many. Yeah, it's right, Clay Clayboard is far from a reliable being a quarterback. One forty games out of eight. Yeah, they just this team didn't have much depth. But you know, if you think about what they've got it safety too. Also. You said it Calvin Pryor you know, uh, Marcus Gilcrest. I

mean those guys might Gilcrest might get cut. So I mean to me, things sound more dire it's safety than they do at corner Well, and I think it's just Look, we've been talking about the Jets, how they need to turn things around. You talk about the person that Jamal Adams is, you know, the presence that he brings not only to the field, but to the locker room, and go to the commission now here we go, Commissioner. With the sixth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the

New York Jets select Jamal Adams. Oh there you go. Defensive fact, I'll take two LSU guys in the top ten. How about that Joe Tigers. It was reported that the Jets told Jamal Adams when he was in there for a visit. We don't know why you're here. You're a top five pick. You're not gonna get to us. Well he did, and behold, there you go. Happy to snatch him up and listen again. We can make the argument all day about the bigger need and what the person

that they're getting here. It's similar to the forty nine ers, right, they just need the right kind the talented players, of course, but the right kind of guys. And not that the Ohio State guys aren't. But you know what Jamal Adams is. I've said this before. I've interviewed thousands of players over the last decade prospects. Two of the best interviews I've ever done, Two of the top ten probably are in this draft, and one of them's Jamal Adams. So impressive.

Good for him. He's going to going to the Jets. You know, he bet his father that he would be drafted higher. His father's drafted nineteenth. Yeah he won, and yeah,

Jamal Adams won that bit. I don't know if y'all saw this during the pre draft coverage, but they had our guy at orgeron on and he was talking to It took a little bit, but he had this great story about how Jamal Adams won them the Citrus Bowl against Louisville and the high trophy winner, like he's he won it before the game even happened, just because like he had everybody locked in, he kept the guys from breaking their curfew, like everybody was kind of feeding off

of his business like approach. And that's Uh. Somebody told me recently, somebody that I know in the program was mentioned to me that, you know, Leonard Fournette gets all the attention, but that locker room belongs to Jamal Adams. And I think that's you know, that's just as big a reason why you draft aft him as how good he is on the field. Well, Jamal Adams the Hebrown High School, local kids. So nice six picks three, Yeah, nice to get bad, nice to get him, uh to

the Jets and uh. And I think you guys are absolutely right about the character stuff, you know, And I only remember when we were bad and Darren Woodson, you know, it was a safety for US Pro Bowl safety, a Super Bowl winner when things were bad. That's when Woody was at his absolute best. And you know it'll be tough for uh, It'll be tough for Jamal Adams, who'll get everybody's respect though he will by his play. They'll

respect him in that locker and on. I mean a team like that with that many problems, I don't think it'll take him long to establish No, not at all. Okay, So, how many LSU players have been drafted? How many Alabama players have been drafted? Yeah, I'll get ready that run. I figured, I'm not I'm not poking the bear. I like it. Yeah, but I'd rather got a savor it now because I'd rather have more points on the scoreboard

in November than maybe. Maybe that's why I think you can get Maybe i'd always switch coaches there at LSU. All right, I promised I'm not gonna get this wrong. But the LA Chargers are on the clock here with the seventh overall pick. If you look at the Chargers, Los Angeles Chargers. Looking at our ticker, it says LAC. I thought it was LA Clippers for a second. Yeah, Los Angeles Chargers. Right, they're gonna play in the stub Hub Center front of thirty five thousand fans exactly, So

here we go. Uh, the Chargers needs cornerback Dane Boy. We're right on that we got an Ohio State kids sitting right there waiting for him. They're sitting there. Maybe maybe get the best corner of the draft. Cornerback, free safety, strong safety, offensive tackle, guard, defensive end, and wide receiver. Maybe I'm wrong, but two players really stick out here. Jonathan Allen go defensive line back to back years. You have Boasta last year, add Allen to that mix. Who's

gonna do defensive later? Gus Bradley right put Jonathan Allen as a three technique in their new scheme for the Chargers. I love the fit. I think that'd be a home run. But Malie Cooker, it gives you, you know, the they were missing Eric Weddell last year. Yeah, and that was a big presence in their secondary. That that was just it was clear how much they missed him. Give him Alie Cooker and then you have that safety that can be that ballhawk and bring something extra to the Charger secondary.

Well they like I say, the Chargers clearly their offense pass offense was eighth in the league. Their run offense was twenty sixth, pass defense was twentieth and run defense ten. So numbers not terrible interest on defense. Interesting tweet from Adam Schefter who just said it looks like an early wide receiver run. Which is he referring to Corey Davis, Which that's not a run. No, No, that's not a run. That's not a run. If it could be a run, if there would be, that's one player, one player. So

what's he trying to tell me? Well, I'll tell you what. Chargers. Yes, they have Keenan Allen, but he hasn't been able to stay healthy healthy. They need that. Yeah, that's a team that really really lacks speed. Who's your quarterback? Yeah, you know it's Philip Rivers and Rios. How many years does he have left you? I mean this is this is kind of an all in chips in the middle of the table and the general manager he's on a short lease. Oh sure he needs to win now, yeah, Tom talesco Yeah,

or he's going to be gone. I mean they this is a situation where maybe you do try to win now and new head coach though figure, well yeah, but you figure we're just gonna outscore you. But do you think speed? Do we think that you think size? Yeah? I mean if this is a receiver, I don't know how they pass on Lattimore I mean, I mean, I really, I mean, I kind of like Dane's idea with Alan to be on. If I'm making the pick, that's the

card I'm turning in. I think, well, the thing about Ell if you think about Varette and Hayward or solid, there's no doubt about that. Yeah, But do they do they really need a third third corner? Is that the most importan think? Or do you turn around and say, you know they need upgrades at the free and strong and that's where Hooker. If you feel good about your two corners, why would you not take Hooker here? That's

that's MALIEK. Cooker to me, would be the pick. If I'm the general manager for the Chargers, I'm taking Millie Cooker, the number two player on my board. The way he can impact a game. Absolutely, I think he could really help that the secondary and he helps out everyone on your on your defense. So, and what I mentioned about Eric Weddle no longer being there, the presence at safety that they've been missing, Millie Cooker can be that guy.

And just like Corey Davis, who we have not seen, Mallie Cooker, we have not seen him this pre draft process. But that would not scare me at all the medicals have come back clean. I mean, take the best player to me, that's Hooker. So what was what was Schefter's tweet? He said, it looks like there's an early run on wide receivers, which could he be could he be saying that? All right? Who's all right? Now? Dan talked about this on Our Needs. Dane talked about this one Keenan Allen

not staying healthy though it is Schefter foreshadowing something. I mean, I mean it sounds like me. But Speed is his wife, William Speed. There's somebody like that. I mean, he's the next best. He's the next best receiver on the board. Didn't he about that other guy John Ross? John Ross? But what but what Mike Williams is he brings a lot that's similar to Keenan Allen. Size. Not not a burner, yeah, but size you kind of you give him a chance and he's going to come down with it. He was

good though in that I ain't Championship game. He'd be the I ain't the perfect wide out for Philip Rivers. Yeah, I mean that's that's a guy where you don't always need separation. He's going to he's going to force feed it to you. Okay, the picks in, but if it was if you're going, I mean it could go corner handicap him, corner strong or corner safety or wide receiver. I mean picks in. Let's go the commission, he'll tell us and the two seventeen the NFL Draft, the Los

Angeles Chargers select Mike Williams Cleson. Don't doubt chefter, Chef Chefter knew what he was doing. That knows. That's that if I would have told you that we'd have two receivers off the board before we have two running backs, I'm to see. That's something that we were talking about in the pre show. What about the wide receivers? Remember we were thinking could the wide receivers be the one that slide down the board and drive players to you?

So and hey here, and you know, I'm not trying to like poke at Dane because I think it's a sound it's a sound point. But you know, you're saying Tennessee doesn't need to get their playmaker at five, Well maybe they did, because yeah they're they're going. And I mean maybe Oj Howard hangs around or John Ross, but you know, might as well if you really love Corey Davis, you might as well get him at five instead of hoping he waits waits around for thirteen more. Dan, give

me a thumbnail on Mike Williams. He's not a burner like we we've talked about. He's he's a four or five athlete. He's not to create his own separation. But what he does do is he creates separation in the air, you know, with his ability to that expand his catch radius, pluck the ball high point. Uh. It's just it's tough for defensive backs to cover that because you just and he bailed out to Shaun Watson on a number of throws.

When you watch him on tape, I mean, he's just he is a matchup nightmare for most corners, especially under six foot. Uh. We're watching him right now. Just the back shoulder throws. It looks like a j Green out there with the back shoulder. A great feel for that route. A lot to like about this player. I'm still very surprised to see him go here at seven. I didn't I did not see did you see that coming? Yeah, it didn't feel like that. He was a polished route runner.

You know, that's something you talk about the big body guy in those rout I mean, but you see him go get that football. I mean, that's that's something that you know. He will do slants and ends and things. I mean, he will go and get it and he will make some incredible catches. I mean he will make some highlight catches. Absolutely so. Uh So Mike w Ms, the wide receiver from Clemson. Uh he's heading to Los Angeles and the Chargers, and like Dane says, he likes

to fit with Philip Rivers. They that might be uh the early I guess we're looking at early offensive Rookie of the Year candidates. You got foreign Nett and Jacksonville who they're going to give him the rock. You look at the situation with the Chargers and Philip Rivers. Who wants to win right now? You know? So, I think Mike Williams is going to see a lot of targets. And then of course you have Corey Davis with Marcus Mariotta, who there's no one on that wide receiver depth chart

keeping Corey Davis from starting. I mean, I think we have three legitimate offensive Rookie of the Year candidates very early. Yeah, and how far away are we from a fourth O. J. Howard. I'm thinking Christian mccaffine. Oh yeah, right here at eight. Yeah yeah, well here and here's Carolina. Yeah, here's Carolina. And they're now on the absolutely they're on the clock, which keep drafting those offensive players infl Yeah you Carolina,

let's see. I'm I'm kind of trying to pay attention here. Okay, Carolina, it looks like they're on the clock right now. Okay, picks in. All right, you brought it up, Dave, go for it. Talk about Christian McCaffrey. I'm well, it was Fournette for the longest time, and then over the last three weeks we heard how much the Panthers love Christian McCaffrey. Cam Newton needs weapons. I feel like Cam Newton hasn't had good weapons around him his entire career. I mean,

he's making do with Ted Ginn. Jonathan Stewart's fine, He's not anything. He's not a game breaking back. You got, you had Brandon LaFell for a while, they tried Devin Funcius, you still have Calvin Benjamin. I guess there's that, but I mean, think of all, especially with a running threat quarterback like Cam Newton, I mean, think of all the stuff Christian McAffrey could do for you both as a running back and as a receiver. He'd be the best

route runner on that team from day one. If and I don't know, but if he is the pick to Carolina, I make he's my favorite for Rookie of the Year. Well, let's go with the Carolina's needs. Though we talk about offensive tackle, guard, running back, was daye second need right there? Defensive end, wide receiver and free safety. Heck, if you if you draft Christian McCaffrey, maybe you have two needs right there. You take care of a running back and a wide receiver. That's it. The way he can stress

a defense coming out of the backfield. Like I said, I think he's the best route runner on that roster from day one. It'd be a smart pick. It helps everybody, helps, Cam Newton helps, you know, the run game, helps the receiving game. Jonathan Stewart average under four yards per carry last year, had only one game of one hundred yards rushing. Let's see if it's a pick. As we go to the podium, Yeah, the commissioners making his way to the podium and he is bringing a guest with it. Thomas Davis.

Thomas Davis. Tomorrow night, we will be joined by Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year award winners from around the league. We salute these players for their excellence in community service as well as on the football field. More than being great players, they are great men and represent all that is great about the NF fell tonight to make the Panthers selection. We are honored to have with us the twenty fourteen Walter Payton NFL Man of the

Year Thomas status are y'all do him? It's extremely an honor to be here and represent that Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year. Cannot think the NFL the nation wide enough for allowing me to do this tonight. And with that said, with the eighth pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft that Carolina Panthers have selected

Kristin mccaffre, here we go. I think, to me, besides the Miles Garrett at one, I think this was kind of the next pick that I felt most comfortable, you know, a couple hours ago, because not only does it fit a need, I think it's we're talking, you know, best player at this point. The way he can impact that offense. It's it's something where if I'm picking in that, if I'm another team in that division, I don't like to

see that. Yeah, we were worried about Christian McCaffrey potentially ending up in the NFC East, you know, at Philly and so uh, it's it's nice to see him. Uh, he's incredible. His tape is so much fun to watch. And you know he's a tough guy. They handed the ball inside, he takes you know, David Shaw, that's what they do at Stanford. They're not afraid, you know, they They've got a tough outfit. He's part of that toughness. There's so many things you can do with him, Like

Dan and David both have said so. And you know, Cam Newton has to be elated. To have a weapon like Christian McCaffrey in a matchup nightmare for teams in that NFC South to have to deal with. And this is uh, it's it's kind of a kin to the Cowboys when you think about it. The Panthers are not a bad enough team that they should be picking in the top ten. There was a Super Bowl team. Yeah, that's what I'm saying though, But they have the number

eight overall pick. So you add a dynamic playmaker to what to a roster that was good enough to get to a super Bowl two years ago. I think that should go a long way in helping them rectify how disappointing last season. There's no question about it. Okay, that means that the Cincinnati Bengals are on the clock. It's amazing. And we've seen this offensive run. Oh you like that? I mean, and we could see another one here? Yeah, I mean O. J. Howard could be the pick here. Yeah,

if I could go down through that. The needs on the Bengals defensive end, offensive line, uh, and we saw that last year when Dallas played us they and they let not Yeah that was back during the season. Since then, they lost Andrew Whitworth and Kevin Zeitler exactly, so they they've gotten worse. So offensive line, I mean all the positions, but there is there is there an offensive lineman you take it. Oh no, I'm just not. I need to

get there here. But the running back possibly there, linebacker and wide receiver are the thoughts there for the Cincinnati Bengals. If he if he had got if he had fallen there, I have it on very good authority that Leonard Fournette would have been the pick there. Yeah, I believe he was. I was told the same. Yeah, I think. Uh. Well, and we saw Jonathan Allen out here too. Yeah. Man, they're they're good inside though already. Well yeah, I mean

that's three technique death. Yeah, but we don't know how teams are filling about those shoulders. Yeah, Jonathan Allen, you said that, You've said that could be an issue here. I mean, I'm looking at three players, and if it's not to say san Jonathan all I'm looking at three players here. O. J Howard. I think John Ross is a play Yeah, I think John Ross isn't play him. Then we have Derek Barnett, Ash Rusher. Did we mention a big You mentioned the big donut for Alabama? What

about about that linebacker? Yeah? About a Foster? Could this? You know? Six today we've talked about Cincinnati's a team that doesn't care about character. It's true. I told you since now you just say, hey, I love Duke Tobin and those guys, it's Incinnati. I do well, yeah, because I do don't care about character, though, I care about good football players. But this is a team that very well, could take Foster. They could you know, we've talked about

this team could use an inside linebacker. You know, they they signed Kevin Mentor for a one year deal, so you know Cincinnati by the way, they're gonna take the full time here, Cincinnati. That wouldn't They're not waiting on anybody here. That wouldn't surprise me. But I mean, you know, you look around and did you expect Lattimore to be

here at nine, did you? Well, this is what you gotta think about, too, Barnett, this is what you got to think about if you're if you gotta, if you remember this, The Cincinnati Bengals were founded by Paul Brown, who coached at Ohio State. They tend to lean towards those big ten kind of guys. So its Ohio State.

You know, their dad was a coach there. You gotta if they're Ohio State guys on the board, and and there are two of them, there's two of them on the board, you know, and both of them are sitting there. Either one of them would be a pick. It looks a good picks or great picks for that matter. And would you lean towards the corner of the safety. I think I would lean. I think I would lean towards the corner right there. I really do, I do, But we'll see the pick is in again. We've talked about it.

What's the situation is pack can they are they counting on pac Man? What's his deal? I don't even know they're counting on him, but I mean, but it doesn't seem like they've always kind of taken care of him. They'd like to have him around and what he's uh and what he's done. So I don't know. I think that we we've just kind of got to think about though, the positions. Like I said, we've we've gone through. What what do you feel like though? Offensive line wide receiver?

I mean speed Green, I mean we green. He had some of his lowest production last year. Got they got green. They drafted the kid out of Peler Boyd, Tyler Boyd, and then I think they brought back brianon the Fell, which he's not make or break, but yeah's decent enough. Fell is basically a placeholder sotill they find their wide receiver number two right, so they're looking slot so they

have no speed though. I'm trying to think of their team last year when we were watching them, and I don't remember them being really explosive other than I just remember Moe and Byron batting balls away from A. J. Green. All yeah, well, I mean what I I just what I said before. I think O. J. Howard, John Ross and there four net three three guys I'm looking at here. I mean John Rolls talking about speed. If you're comfortable

with the medicals, talk about that wide receiver run. That schefter was talking about the bad you have your medicals in front of you on the on I do well talking about what the uh, what's all wrong with Ross? Because you brought him up. He's all right on our board, he's the on my board, he's the third best receiver. I've lost my first two. I've lost Davis and I've lost Williams. Now he's my third one. I I think because of the medical stuff ACL reconstruction in twenty fifteen,

knee ACL NIE scope and a shoulder problem. But like as of right now he's fine. Yeah, it's not it's not that there's something hindering him right now. It's just a lot, it's a laundry list of stuff that's already been working. But he also runs four two three right, Yeah, and he does he play that fast? I think he looks fast on the tape Polish route runner. Yeah, okay, so we could think about this is the defensive ends we really you know again, Alan could be a situation here,

random aside. I like Mayock going with the evil guy goatee here, like he's like evil Mike Mayock this year, he's it looks like he's already kind of struggled, like Danael Jeremiah's challenging him right off the bat, like Bizarro Mike Mayo. Here we go, commissioners at the podium. Here, we want to try to do something to take care Dalton Whitney ninth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select John Ross. Oh makes a lot of sense. So once we talked it through, No, it

makes absolute sense. But what have we've been saying the whole time about chefs? Is chef on that run a wild card? I like how schefter he said he wasn't going to tip the picks, but he kind of let everybody. He's like, he just wants you to know that he knows, he knows. I'd say, if you're the if you're a team picking outside the top ten, you're loving this. Yeah, these are, oh my gosh, good players following. I mean, we have Marshawn Lattimore, Malik Hooker, Jonathan Allen, O J. Howard. Yeah,

you're the brown sitting there at twelve. You're gonna get one of those guys. Yeah, you're sitting You're the Arizona at thirteen. You're gonna get one of those guys, unless you want the quarterback. Uh So it's you're you're loving all these offensive players coming off the board, unless you wanted one of these offensive players. But it's it's fascinating the watch. Can I just read this? Oft and I and I'm following up your point. I printed out the

top one hundred prospects according to CBS Sports. I don't know if it's your ranking purely or if it's like a composite. Composite. So these are the these are the rankings of the guys that have gone one, two, three, great, nine, eleven, twelve, fourteen, eighteen, twenty one. Who's twenty one Ross? Mike Williams. So that's what Ed Ross was eighteen. That's what I'm trying to say, though, is somebody thought John Ross was better than Jonathan Allen,

who's ranked fourth, four, five, six, seven, eight. We got a tree. Kansa City's coming. Oh a quarterback? Quarterback? Yeah? Now which is which one is? Is it Watson or what's up Buffalo? Yeah? I knew Buffalo wasn't gonna take a quarterback. Casey just went from twenty seven to ten. That's the future first round pick? Yeah, yeah, well it's

Buffalo has been playing the long con all spring. They wanted everybody to think they were taking a quarterback, so that they would get this opportunity, which I think is awesome. By the way, Yanga City is now on the clock, So that's this was this was originally Buffalo's pick. This would be one ten, this first round, tenth overall pick, Kansas City on the clock. We think this move right, here's got to be for a quarterball. Shout out, shout out to all my long time Draft Show listeners who

have been with us since last year or beyond. Why on earth would Buffalo want a quarterback when they've got Cardale Jones. Okay, just in case y' all thought I forgot and I saw that, Look you gave me Dane. Someone gift that one. Okay, Well, here we go. Yeah, this one goes, This one goes Kansas City's pick at twenty seven. They gave up a third, They give a third, and next year's one. Okay, there you go. John Dorsey not messing around in case, my old buddy. No, John

Dorsey is not afraid to make this move. Yeah. If you're a confident general manager and a competent head coach, you make moves like this. So Kansas City sends their third over there, that would be pick you said, third round pick? Right? Wait? Can you can you read the terms back to me? So Buffalo is now picking teven. Yeah, Buffalo is now picking twenty seven. If I'm right about that, we have it. I assume they flop there too. So the twenty seventh pick, I'll get this straight one day,

twenty seventh pick now belongs to Buffalo. The tenth overall pick now belongs to Kansas City. And then also, you said a third round pick, right, Dane third, Yes, so that'd be pick ninety one. So three ninety one now belongs to Buffalo. There's no way that's all they got though, right, And next year's one, next year's one, next years okay, so I mean, look, if you're the Chiefs, you think you're going to be in the playoffs again, Yeah, so

potentially a late first rump. I think that the Chiefs just gave up less twenty seven to ten than the Bears did to go from three to two. I think that's what just happened. But do the math if you do. I mean that one next year is but what if it's twenty seven? What if it's twenty three, If it's twenty seven, again, it's only again that's if you if they're say they're picking in the same spot, that's six eighty right there on the point value? Right, all right?

Which which do you feel better about? If? I mean, if you're the team that traded, what do you feel better about having just given up? Oh? If you're getting a quarterback in both? It doesn't want to give up next year's one. No, I don't either. But again, Dane's right, the Chiefs have a playoff caliber roster. Yeah, and I mean you can't predict anything. I mean, it's gonna hurt if it's a top ten pick. But yeah, I roll that. I roll that, dice. I for some reason, I you

have the biggest problem because of next year's one. Yeah, you know it's like, okay, but seventeen spots verse one. That's the other thing, right, absolutely. I mean, you want something and it's June, you say it'll be my Christmas gift. Okay, summer comes and you don't have anything. I hear. It's the worst Christmas ever? Right, I think about this. Now, rank these quarterbacks? How do you how do you got them?

You've got Bisky off the board. Give me Watson and Mahomes. No, I know, it just comes down to chiefs and their preference. And I don't know. I mean it could be either one and would not be surprised. I think Deshaun Watson would be an ideal fit for Andy reid Nut offense. But the Homes, there is so much intrigue, so much just teams just they want to work with them, you know, they want to work with that talent to see what he could be and develop. But man, it's a lot

to give up for Mahomes. Who is who is a big risk? So you're saying you gave it. If it's Mahomes, you gave up next year's one. Yeah, I mean I would lean Watson just because I think he's the best next best quarterback, and you know, I think you feel more comfortable with who he is. But there's a lot of chatter about about my homes. Either way, I'm not gonna be surprised. I'm preparing myself for a world where Watson will last longer than two quarterbacks, because that's just

the stupid way the NFL works. I would take Watson. I don't know that I have Watson higher, but think about okay, yeah, I mean the things we love about Watson been a winner at all levels. We talked about him Alabama you know those games, talked about Ohio State at those games, talked about winning the ACC a couple of times. He's a winner. Yeah, he's a winner, a winner. So you know, we'll see he won. I think he won state in high school. He lost like one or

two games his whole high school career. He lost two games or maybe three his whole college career. That's what he does. Yeah, okay, if if what about Mahomes? Did you sat down to watch Mahomes? You know what's funny is I was thinking about that the other day, where like I think our very first episode of the Draft show this year, we kind of went off on about Mahomes for like twenty minutes. Yeah, and we were just

like they had him in his top fifty. He did right away, And I remember I'm pointing the finger at myself as like, well, how do you even judge this guy? What do you do with this guy? Yeah? And I honestly I'm stealing this from somebody on Twitter, but somebody pointed out Texas Tech lost bad to like Iowa State this year. I think, like, yeah, they allowed, like, he's got to be the first quarterback to go in the top ten if he's the pick who you know, lost

allowed seventy points and just had this terrible record. I don't I don't know. I like Mahomes because he's fun to watch, Yeah, but I would be terrified to give up a future first round pick to go up into the top ten to draft him. Yeah. This, this will be This will be interesting. What happens with Kansas City. Here it comes, the selection is in and the commissioner's at the podium. We're the tenth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. The Kansas City Chiefs select Patrick Mahomes.

Here you go, how about that Patrick Mahomes? And there's Lee Steinberg. I iced to see Lee Steinberg. He had Paxton Lynch last year. That's one of the originals right there. Awesome. I like, I like this kid a lot, and i've kind of I mean, I think he has a similar it factor to Deshaun Watson. And maybe I'm biased because I've watched so much. Maybe I'm bias because I watched so much Dak Prescott over the last year, But I

love just the intangibles that he brings. He strikes me as kind of that leader of men in the locker room kind of guy. I definitely don't hate him as a prospect, but again, I'm really leary about the thought of trading up from twenty seven to ten to get him. And we welcome Kevin Turner, Hey buddy from from one oh five three to Fan the Ben and Skin Show, my scouting buddy who's been on this journey with me

since December fifth, Katie. This thing has been a little fun as to start out, like we knew we didn't really have Like when we were talking for a long time, like, hey, we've we've got We've got a handle on this. Absolutely not Nope, we have no handle on this Wild West Shootout I had a feeling it was gonna get crazy. I didn't know it's gonna be this crazy. Three wide receivers in the top ten and then two huge trades. Yeah,

it's so much fun. Well, it's it's it's it's really interesting to see I and I don't know, Katie, if we had an idea that all these wide receivers were gonna go or we we we talked about in our the pre draft show. Where where would the wide receivers go? Are they gonna all be pushed down at the end of the board. Are they now gonna be uh, you know, where are they gonna Where are they all gonna fall?

But the fact that they they all went, you know, very early with roscoing to Cincinnati at nine and Williams, you know, to the Chargers, and you know, of course then Corey Davis. I think that really started it all off there with Tennessee. You know, I saw maybe one

going in the top ten. You know, if you start getting three of them, and this is a fairly deep draft at the wide receiver position, you know, so it kind of surprised me to see all these guys going off the board in the top ten and then right here at this I love the pick by Kansas City. I mean, I do love moving up and thinking about the future. I mean, Andy Reid's gonna have a lot of fun with Patrick Mahomes, the quarterback from Texas Tech.

And I like the trade for Buffalo recouping the pick that you lost in the Sammy Watkins trade a couple of years back. Love buff Like all year Buffalo has been like, we want a quarterback and I was like, no, you don't, you freaking liars, And here they are getting an extra one and a three out of it. I love. I'm a big Tyrod Taylor fan. Obviously, I like Cardel

Jones too, so I'm pumped for I'm pumped for the Bills. Well, let's think about the Saints now at eleven, because if you'll get New Orleans at eleven, Eveland at twelve, yeah, you want your quarterback there. I mean, if New Orleans wants a quarterback that you need to do it down right. Yeah, I think that, I'd say, so, I don't know if if I'm if I'm New Orleans, yeah, I think you have to do it now. And that's something you know, and I'm I know Sean Payton very very well. I

worked with Sean. He was very envious of Scotland and in what he was able to do to work with uh, you know with uh the quarterback with with here with Dak back. Yeah, and I I felt like that Sean. Seaun's like, you know, you talk to him and he's like, hey, listen, you know it's nice to have a quarterback that doesn't always check out of every play. You know, you know, I don't want to throw the ball forty times, but now here I am. I'm throwing at forty six times.

So I think he was very very envious of of of working with Dak. And so if they in fact they go, I mean, let's let's look at the at the Saints at their at their needs. We've talked about that New Orleans could go like there their first and pass offense. They we were talking about getting quarterback first and pass offense, sixteenth and run offense. But thirty two in pass defense and fourteenth in run defense. I'm just

you feel like they have to take Lattimore here. I'm well, I was gonna say, I'm awfully intrigued by the idea of them going and get my leak hooker. Well, if you think about the defensive end, cornerback, quarterback, strong safety, outside, inside linebacker. Okay, so Kansas City jumped in front of New Orleans because New Orleans like Pat Mahomes. Let's play that game. Yeah, let's play that game. They still want quarterback. If you're in Cleveland, your fingers are crossed that Shahn

Watson doesn't go off the board right here. But with New Orleans, did you want that quarterback? Because if you wanted that quarterback this year to think about the future and get ahead of Drew Brees, you gotta do it now. But unless you want to talk about Kaiser later on or something like that. Here's the thing, though, is and it never works that way. I feel like, you know, we're sitting here thinking like, well, you missed out on Mahomes.

Maybe you get Watson, But did they like Watson that much that they're going to take him one pick later? I just think the quality of quarterback drops off right here. I think there's a huge drop off. Yeah, well, it depends on how much you like Peterman, you know, I mean, I mean there's some people that probably felt like that my Homes Peterman. Maybe let's say let's say that this pick is not Watson, and then it's maybe Hooker or Lattimore. Well,

I like Lattimore here, I'm thinking purely quarterback. If it's not Watson, Watson doesn't last to thirty two, I don't think no, so then maybe, But if you want to get your quarterback at thirty two, if you're the Saints with that second pick, does Kaiser last that long? Is there a guy that you like there that you can get at thirty two and get that option on? I don't know, it makes a lot of sense. That's probably a game they're playing and why it's taking so much

time to get the pick in. Yeah, the Saints are right at a minute fifteen on the clock. They're they're trying to determine they they're there. They have two picks in the round. We didn't even we didn't even mention the guy. You know, we talk about people talking about a guy being locked in in the mock drafts. Derek Barnett has been linked with the Saints for a long

time now and he's still there, So I don't know. Yeah, that can make sense, But then I wouldn't imagine the Saints ever would have guessed Marshawn Lattimore would still be there at eleven. He I mean people thinking he's a top three pick. Oh, there's no doubt about that. I mean this, this might, this might actually played right into the Saints hands. You know they clearly could get the best cornerback in the draft. I think, yeah, and Marshawn Latimore is my best player left on my board at

this point. Immediate step in and really have an immediate impact. I really like Marshall Lattimore. Should that be the pick? Why do you like Lattimore? I think Latimore when you watch him, and I thought he separated himself from a very sure, very good cornerback class. I thought he separated himself and the rest of the pack is the clear number one. Just the way he moves, the way he breaks on the ball. He had four interceptions in twenty sixteen.

He turns and runs, it's so easy, it's effortless. The way he plays in it. He really is. And he was shutting down all the routes. You know, a stop. You want to run a stop and go on him, You want to try to go deep on him. He's very confident. He's a capable tackler. I wouldn't say He's a really good tackler, but he just nothing could could really shake him. And I think those are the things

that really made him. You know, my number one cornerback in the draft and lot of people's number one cornerback, and you watch him work out, he is just so smooth. Yeah, he is so smooth. Yeah. I just think the Saints have got so I understand the quarterback love, but my gosh, you were thirty second of past defense. Yeah. Oh and their past defense has been a wreck for a while. Sure they've been working on that. Yeah, Well, the picks in right now. We're waiting for the commission to go

to the podium. I just think I think you make a great point, though, Kat, I really really do. I just don't know how if the best cornerback is on the board and you're a team that's struggling to stop people from throwing the football, you know, this is like a gift probably if the attact. But again, we could it could be Watson. I was telling you what Sean Payton was thinking about, you know, like, I'd love to coach a guy like you know, I'd like to I'm

envious a coach and a guy like Dak Prescott. Maybe it's Hooker and you get that. You're thinking I can get a cornerback later. But you know, for me, I'm just going off my board, my board, my best player remainings. Marsh On Lattimore didn't even think he'd get to eleven, you know, so n Lattimore can make your defense like noticeably better. Talking about Marshawn Lattimore like three eight picks ago. Yeah, yeah, you know that's Chicago. Okay, commissioner's walking the podium. Here

we go. We're the eleventh pick in the twenty seventeen NFL drafts. The New Orleans select Marshawn Lattimore. Yeah, defensive there you go, be smart. Saints Commissioner Goodell just said the New Orleans. Yeah, left off the Saints. I left off the Saints. But they'll be happy they got Marshawn and Lattimore right there, I promise you. Right there, there's a team. Six foot one hundred ninety three pounds four three six forty that's a good football player. Makes sense.

And yeah, and you throw it and he played in a division where they chuck it every time. You're dealing with Carolina with Tampa, you know, you just it just makes too much Atlanta. It just makes too much sense to have to draft a cornerback then, Yeah, especially the best one. And it's one of those things that you can easily overthink though, you know, like something I mentioned

a minute ago, like depth of the cornerback class. Maybe I can get a little value here with Millie Cooker or you know, yeah, take a chance on someone else. You know, I'd really sit there. Take your best player. That's how you draft right there, Take the best player down the board. And Marshall Laddimer had to have been the best player on the board for them because it was quite clear. And a quarterback and a quarterback class.

This is deep when you separate yourselves. That's that's really impressive. I'm not trying to take credit away from Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton, but it's easy to go BPA when it's a beast of a player that you never thought would be there at one of the games. Like foremost important, let me ask you this, do you think you know you're a New Orleans resident? You native? I do not live there currently. There's a difference there, but I give native native of the great the city. But you think

everybody's okay with this one. I get. I know, I know a lot of people in the media and Saints fans who were frothing at the mouth that both Saints picks in the first round need to be defense. It's a lot. It's a lot like the boys. They need pass rush, they need corners, they want them both. I heard a lot of people saying, Derek Barnett, I don't think anybody in their wildest dreams would have thought the best yeah, defensive in that would have made a lot

of a sense though. Yeah, but I guarantee you that this is overwhelmingly being received with favor in New Orleans. There's no doubt you can you still a little bit of you gotta go. I gotta go back, okay and do the other duties. I look forward to working with you guys. Uh multitask Yeah tomorrow tomorrow night. We got you for the full the full show. Yeah, please come back. Can you come back tonight? Come back tonight if you can.

I'll see what I can do, all right. Something Kevin Turner from the Buddy one oh five three, the Fan, my scouting buddy, great, great insight there he gave you the pick about Lattimore. He told you why he liked Lattimore. That made a heck of lost sense. Okay, Cleveland Browns are on the clock. They've got almost five minutes before uh, they have to hand in that card. I want this to be Deshaun Watson so bad you think about it,

Dane want just to be Malie Hooker. The Browns get the number one and two players in my draft board. You're gonna rip off your shirt and show us that dog pound T shirt you got underneath. I might, I might, I don't. Don't look at my socks. Yeah, look, there are plenty of options. OJ Howard, you know that's something I've mocked frequently to the to the Browns twelve. Uh are we giving up on this Kirk Cousins thing. Well yeah, it sounds like it because they're on the clock. Yeah.

Well unless it's a less Unless it's like a like a you know, wink wink type of thing. You take Deshaun Watson and then he trade them, you know, or whatever it is. But a trade. Cleveland's jumped off the clock. Now, wow, this is gonna be the Houston text for Watson right here. Okay, Now the Texans have this crap. Yeah, Houston's now okay, they just saw what Jack's excuse me, what Kansas City did, and they've made an aggressive move uh up the board

here to Cleveland's spot at twelve. So Houston coming from twenty five going to twelve. Uh, they're gonna take this pick, uh for from the Cleveland Browns. Is a picked It originated in Philadelphia and then went to Cleveland and now is in Houston. Tell you what this is, David, make sure we get to what the particulars on the trade. I'm guessing it's the first round pick next year and the Browns, I would guess so the third year next year. We pick in twice in the first round. But they

traded away from some really good players here. Yeah, they sure it did. They sure it did. But you know what that's Uh maybe maybe this is one of those things where you can see overpay, but you don't go this high unless you're going for a quarterback. That's the number one need on our board. Quarterback, offensive tackle, linebacker, guard, and corner corner back. Do you wonder, mister Brugler, mister Ohio guy, if at some point the Browns need to

stop getting cute and just make some picks. And I mean, I'm I'm I'm asking genuinely, I'm not trying to be a smart ass. I want to well, yeah, I mean you you are correct, I mean you're not, You're not wrong. Put it that way. I'm eager to see what the deal is. What do they get? Um, you know, I think that that's a factor. Maybe they traded as Wilder back to Houston. I mean, it's no, you can have him back. We yeah, you're fine. Uh, Houston already they're

out without next year's two. They traded to Cleveland. So are they gonna be without next year's one and two? Basically take next year's draft off? Is that how much pressure that Rick Smith's feeling a general? Yeah, I mean if you're if you're in Houston, if you're Houston and you're feeling like you're gonna get whacked, hey, you go ahead and go ahead and give up a next year's one. If you're not, if you're if you're not, if you don't have to be around to make your work. Okay,

here's the trade, Houston, Okay, there is. It's just a straight and next year's one, next year's one, just a straight So to go, up the twenty three to go up thirteen spots. They gave up their two thousand and eighteen first round, and you know what that is. Cleveland now has two first round picks next year. Wherever they're picking, say they're picking top ten and eighteen, they're gonna package those picks to go to one and get their quarterback

next year. Yeah, that's what that's what they're gonna do. Yeah. So if they're well, I mean, hopefully there's a quarterback they like, Hey, Sam Darnold. Yeah, usc that's the other And and I'm not I mean, Hugh Jackson knows more about the quarterback position than I ever will, but I want to see the quarterback that he really loves, because these past two drafts he's basically saying, yeah, these guys

aren't good enough for what we're after. Okay, we think this, and I want to I just want to see who is who is good enough to be next year Cleveland has two ones and three twos. All right. The we're looking at the live at the at the UH Texans war room right now. They're they're all breathing. That's good, But that's not a war room. That's a war and that's like, yeah, that's a that's like a class that's a college classroom. All right, dank give me. We think

it's we think it's gonna be Deshaun Watson. Thumbnail it for me on Deshaun Watson. Please, we know he's a winner. I mean, obviously we're all he's done since he got the clumpson his win what he did this past year to beat Alabama in a national title game. And he's at his best in the fourth quarter, he's at his best in the last two minutes. He makes people around him better. The biggest question Kenny consistently win from the pocket, and that's something that he'll get better at. He'll develop.

But for you know, we thought going in the quarterbacks we're going to be the storyline. And here here we are. We've had three different trades to go get the quarterbacks right now and next year's one to get those quarterbacks. Absolutely, and so Houston, you know they felt pressured to do this wouldn't shock anybody at Deshaun Watson beats out Tom Savage to be the starter. It's obviously not the same

because of the ransom. He's the commission, like the commission make the pick twelve pick the two thousand and seventeen NFL drafts, the Houston Texans select Deshaun Watson quarterbacks. And Deshaun Watson there he is not a very long wait for him in the green room. But that's three quarterbacks off the board now, and some I think that maybe you know, Dan, I know you had Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes. Was that how you had your quarterbacks ranked? Kaiser was

number two in number two. I mean, I didn't I didn't expect it to go like that. This has gone as pretty much like I expected. I thought all three would go in the top fifteen. I didn't think they had happened like this, Kansas City and Houston making these types of deals to move up. But wow, crazy. I mean everyone had different opinions on this quarterback class. Yeah, and all we heard it's a weak quarterback class. It's right, Well, some teams just traded future first round picks to go

up and get quarterbacks. You can tell me all you want you think it's a weak class. I mean these NFL teams I mean, and I don't think it's a Jake Locker, Blank and Gabbert situation. I'm not saying these guys are gonna be Pro bowlers, But I don't think this is necessarily a time where they're just making clear reaches and you're get excited about these quarterbacks and what

they could develop into. But you know, with Kansas City, obviously Mahomes is going to a place where he can sit for two years, which is great, and with Watson, he can sit for a year if he needs it. But he could also beat out Tom Savage. You'd be the guy from day one. And the point I was going to make before the pick was, obviously it's not quite the same because Dak Prescott fell in the Cowboys laps right, whereas Houston just paid a ransom to get Watson.

But he's in just as good of a situation to succeed in terms of what's around him. I mean, he might not have that all world offensive line, but there are pieces. I mean, the Texans got to the playoffs by stitching things together with glue and duct tape last year. He's got Lamar Miller, he's got an adequate offensive line. He's got DeAndre Hopkins already there to help him out. He's got Will Fuller, who was their first round pick.

Lat I mean there are pieces in place for Deshaun Watson to succeed if he is good enough to take that job. All right, real quickly, if we could, Dane Cleveland traded out of the spot they picked up next year's one. Is this one of those trades that we will look back in Brown's history and regret that they had a chance to pick Deshaun Watson and did not pick him. I don't know, maybe, but I had had Deshaun Watson as a late one. Um, you know, I worry about him at the next level. Uh, there's a

lot of that you like about Deshaun Watson. I think he can just talk about changing the culture in your locker room. I mean, he's the type of leader that uh Ford Center war room cam is back on, Yes, sit back on if you want to see. Yeah. Oh by the way, if you're Arizona, what are you thinking right now? I think all along you were thinking one of those quarterbacks get to you, and now all three

are gone by that thirteenth pick. Now we got to watch for Deshaun Kaiser Arizona in the second round, or maybe they trade up into the first to get their quarterback. And this is you know, we we we talk about before this, before they started, these three quarterbacks were gonna come off the board. None, We're gonna be available at eight, right. But the Arizona Cardinals, they're sitting here, they want their quarterback in the future. They think it's Deshaun Watson or

I'm shooting Deshaun Kaiser. Do you know. I don't think they're gonna take them here, but maybe we know they're picking in the second round. Maybe they make a desperate move to get up into the late first to get that quarterback. Maybe they trade up to twenty eight. Yeah, that's what you're hoping. If you're the Cowboys right there,

I mean, that's gonna bruce Arians. That would be the call. Yeah, that would be something that you know, if you think about the Arizona cards saying thumbs up, Yeah, Cardinals call me, let's go waving. If folks in the now, don't lie, Brian, he's thumbs and up, he's thumbs up. In the trade, they're gonna shaking hands with folks. So yeah, they're shaking hands about the trade they're gonna do to get us

some more picks. Yeah, I'm kidding everyone, absolutely, but yeah, this is a the the Arizona Cardinals needs corner back, quarterback, wide receiver, strong safety, and inside linebacker. Real quick, Brian, just to real quick, sorry to pull us out of this real quickly, and just take a look at the Cowboys.

Actually a fun dominal point you've probably maybe you've seen Cowboys blogger Rabble Rousers phenomenal point by him that we are up to the thirteenth pick in the draft and not a single Cowboys thirty visit has gone off the board. How many offensive players have we had so far? Is it? Eight? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, Yes, eight,

eight and four, eight and four? Wow? Yeah, And I mean the sport's fall in the right way for twenty seven or twenty eight of the Cowboys thirty we're defensive players, if you'll remember so, I'm I mean right, we're not even halfway to the Cowboys pick, but starting to feel pretty good that somebody they like is going to be sitting there. Yeah. The Arizona Cardinals, as we said, they are on the clock right at three minutes and thirty seconds.

We talked about with you, I mean the cornerback situation there, you know, depending on which way they might go to, you know, quarterback clearly that's been wiped out for what we think, you know, unless they take it, unless they shock us and take uh Kaiser or Peterman or one of those guys. You know, they might just say, you know what, we believe in one of those guys more. But you know, the wide receiver group, at least the first round ones that we have are wiped out. The

safeties are left. Hooker still left, but more free than strong is Alan Howard Hooker Barnett. Yeah, how can they? You know, Dan, you're right about the shoulders. You're right about the shoulders and Alan. That has to be the case. There might be a team that's okay with it. Um, you know, the Redskins sitting there at seventeen. They might be okay with it. You never know. It's just it's from team to team. Arizona lost a pretty damn good safety and Tony Jefferson over the spring, Yeah did Yeah,

I mean maybe they try to replace that. Swearinger two is also gone from him as well, so you know that's yeah, that bethroom Brand. I mean, they've got guys that, but they do they have enough. It looks like the

clock has stopped and let's see, you know, Arizona. The Arizona one of those teams that's uh, always seems so speed, you know, Arizona to me when you look at their defense, and it's a team that the Cowboys have to play next year and you'll see them actually in the Hall of Fame game and then you'll see them, uh during the season. But when you think about the Cardinals, you always think about speed, and you always think about speed on defense, you know, and that's something with the you know,

with the corner wiped out. I mean, they've always watching their tape. They always got guys that can run. I mean, they've got those guys. Well. That's and a big time pre draft favor to the Cardinals was John Ross because of how right which and so not only did you lose your most you know, prize quarterbacks, but the receiver they might have liked the most is off the board too. I'm really interested in this pick because this is a team with a small window here. Yeah, I mean, who's

going to help them win right now? I Mean I think that's what they have to look at. You don't want to necessarily look at that for your first round pick, and you want the best player for the next five years. But at the same time, Okay, well who is that player? Then? Who is that player? Dane? Yeah? Could it be one of the line a linebacker. Could it be you know, Malie Cooker. Uh, you know, there's there's plenty of talent here. You talked about Foster. I mean, do you get your

first round grade on Reddick? Absolutely? I think Reddick got about him. Yeah, in my five bold predictions whatever I said, Reddick would be the first linebacker drafted. I think that he'd be could be a great pick here. Yeah. See that's what I mean. I always think. I always think of Arizona. I think as speed. Yeah, I think of a defense that can run on Redick? Yeah best? Yeah see and Reddick. I I just was looking at my board here and I'm thinking, who on that board can run? Now?

Foster makes sense. Foster makes sense because we talk about the inside linebacker. But you know, Reddick, what is he? Reddick can play any position? Yeah, any linebacker position you want. You could rush him too. This is this is the place for him too. And turn just like I talk about like, oh, I don't trust you forgot about him Reddick. I mean, and not in the grand scheme of things, but I just I haven't what's the first time we've said that name tonight, basically is what I'm saying. Yeah, Um,

I just was thinking to speed. But I'm just thinking. You know, we I always talk about, you know, the Cowboys, they're not creative enough to use these type of like hybrid players. Well, the Cardinals figured out how to use Tyron Matthew, you know what I mean. Yeah, I would be fascinated to see what they could do with a guy like this who can kind of be a jack of all trades. Yeah, they are Steve Kim, their GM,

and they're showing their war room right now. And I have a lot of respect for Steve Kim, and I'll tell you I have a lot of respect for their head coach. Either head coach takes the players, and I think he's a really good job with those guys. I think you'll see a pretty oppressive team when we h we ventured in the Desert this year. I think you, hey, don't forget the Hall of Fame game. Yeah, absolutely, I think you need to get a kangle hat like Bruce arians Yeah, get through. I get the BB's is way

too cool for me. No, no, no, in a good way. I don't mean that. I mean that in a positive way. I don't mean that could pull off the kangle. It's all about knowing you he's he's really really good. Okay. So you know, we think that they could go several different ways here. We like the fact that they maybe could go Foster Reddick, those kinds of guys. Alan is still on the board. We talked about him. Hooker's still on the board right there. Barnett's still on the board.

Let's go to the podium in the commission, will tell us pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select has Reddick. Here you go, love it. One of my favorite players in this draft. Yeah, as they as they say, man, you watch him on tape. Heck, that guy's a blur. Seriously, they got that. He's got that burgundy and maroon whatever it is he's wearing for Temple, and you watch him run from the back side and he is smoking. So once again, here the here are

the Arizona Cardinals adding a piece to their defense. Didn't help. Didn't help the quarterback that's old, didn't help the receiver that's old. It helps that defense though, but it helps that defense. It does it sure does help that defense. Hassan Reddick can play inside, can play outside, he can cover, he can blitz, play sideline, the sideline. It's pretty it's easier to talk about what he can't do. And you know, on the football field, there's just not a lot of

things he can't do. It's really impressive player. And hey, this is it's a great story. He wasn't even listed on the scouting sheets going into this year. I mean, he wasn't on the radar, had the great senior year, goes to the Senior Bowl, proves that he can stand up and play an off ball linebacker position, cover running backs out of the backfield, cover the tight end, and then at the combine continues that momentum with great testing numbers.

He's had such a great ascension. I really fell in love with this kid when I started watching him in the fall. One of my favorite players this year. It's a home run pick for the Cardinals. Yeah, he's uh, I do, I'd like to pick two. I'm a big fan. I understand Foster in that situation. I mean I could see why teams maybe are are are turning away from him. But Reddick, you know, if you're looking for a linebacker, to me, this guy never comes off the field. He is.

He is one of those guys that you know, you you say, go get the ball. He is going to get the football. What would you have done with him here? And we've talked about this before, but I just want to rehash it. I think I think that he would have I definitely would have tried to play him and I had him as listed as an outside linebacker. He would have been your Sam. And he wouldn't have taken him off they and you wouldn't have taken him off the field. You just rushed him. You'd put him his

hand down in nickel and let him rush. How weird would that be to see a team that uses three linebackers in nickel on a regular basis. You don't see that that often. You really really dope, But he is. He is. He is super, super, super impressive. And uh, you know I I also a great character guy. Yeah, I mean just flawless off the field. Uh. I mean he did have one in it, but he was acquitted. Yeah. But everything you hear from the coaches, from people around him is how great of a guy he is. It's

just relentless, and remember he's a former walk on. Yeah, this is a guy who is self made. I mean he went to Temple and you know he wasn't that five star guy who was handed everything. He worked as a way up from a walk on defensive back turned himself into a pretty good edge rusher. Now he's going to be and now he is a top thirteen pick in the NFL, going to an organization that's going to be fighting for the playoffs this year. Yeah, absolutely so,

Hassan Riddick. And that's going back to the point we made about the Panthers. Same thing works for them. The Cardinals are probably picking higher than they should be based on their roster. Yeah, so I mean this can only help them. Okay, the Philadelphia Eagles are on the clock. That means it pick fourteen. We're halfway to the Dallas Cowboys picking at twenty eight. And wow, has it been a fun ride here for fourteen picks. Let's talk about the Eagles dand you kind of had a bunch of

different things going on for them. Yeah, you know, I thought McCaffrey was the perfect fit, but of course, you know that became evident pretty quickly. He was not going to be available before them at fourteen. You know, you could look at wide receiver. They signed alsh On Jeffrey to a one year deal, that Tory Smith deal basically a one year deal, but wide receivers are gone, so it doesn't look like they're gonna go in that direction. Do they look at defense? Corners? Easily the top need

on this team easily? But is there a corner that they want? I've mocked Marylin Humphrey. Here the corner from Alabama. I thought this is this is where Gary un Conley was going to be drafted in my opinion, Yes, but that's not an option anymore. So Merlin Humphrey, could he be the corner that the Eagles, you know, their plan B because they need a corner in the worst way. Then it's so badly that they might have to reach for one here. So it just depends on what their

corner stack looks like. Yeah, well, you're absolutely right corner being the number one need wide receiver. You're right on all Sean Jeffrey and Tory Smith just short deal's defensive end, running back, and defensive tackle. And they're still they're still running a four to three now right? Yeah? Oh no, look out you see, well you get to know, could you see could you see? How about how about Alan ending up there? Yeah? And movings, Beny Logan, Yeah, you'll

Spendy Logan. But that's I mean, you'd have to be Fletcher Cox. Yeah, I mean about a pass rusher. Yeah, I mean Vinny Curry. He's just he's not a starting caliber player at least one that's going to scare you. They've got Brandon Graham on one side. They lost Conor Barwin. Uh you know what about Charles Harris or Derek Barnett here? Yeah, I think that to me, this this is where I kind of thought that Derek Barnett it was gonna be in the middle of the round. Yeah, where I thought

that Derek. Remember we were talking about, okay, we would trade up to the twenties yesterday in our mock if Derek Barnett was there and we just and Dane you said it, we can't get there. He's gone. So this is kind of where the place I felt like that that Derek Barnett might somewhere between fourteen and eighteen. So

let's see. In fact, that's definitely though the Eagles could use a defensive end that we listed as their third and you, I mean, I need Dan mentioned this as good as as good as we feel about the cornerback class as a whole. You take Conley out of the equation. I don't know that you want to take Kevin King or Trey White this highly. You know, it doesn't seem very well, It's just palatable to me. I just feel like, though, if you look at their defense, you know, I who

else you're somebody you talk about Barnett? Who else are you talking about? Well, I mean mentioned pass rush. Pass rush. Yeah, if it's not corner, which we thought Gary on Conley would right here, then let's look at corner all right, look at the pass rush and Derek Barnett's still here. He's a player we thought could go top ten, if not top ten, Right, I have to wait too much longer. They need an upgrade over Vinny Curry on one side,

Brandon Graham's not getting any younger. On the other side, upgrade that pass rush, build from the bottom in the trenches. I think the pass rush makes sense. Okay, well that looks like that. The picks in and here's the commissioner with a group of folks. Of course, Philly has some. I mean it's in their city. I guess this makes sense. Bump pup a bump, puppa, bump puppa bum, very good bum. Joining us for the Eagles selection are members of the

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do a feature on this. Okay. With the fourteenth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Derek Barnett. Here you go, Dave Bertie, My shot makes sense. I mean, we talked about Derek Barnett. He wasn't gonna have to wait long to hear his name gets out of the top ten. At this point, this is who you know. The Eagles need either a corner or a

pass rush. They go with the pass rush might have been their best player on the board right now, depending on what kind of grade they gave to Malie Cooker or Jonathan Allen and Barnett double digit sacks each of the last three years. Yeah, broke Reggie White's Tennessee record. And did Reggie White not make his bones in Philly? There you go? They sure did? He sure did so. Yeah,

it's a nice pick. We we thought all along that, you know, Derek Barnett, there was a lot of talk that maybe that he were to get to twenty eight, and he did not make it to twenty eight. Instead, he is a Philadelphia Eagle at fourteen. So twice a year the Dallas Cowboys will have to deal with Derek Barnett. And uh, you said that with kind of like a hint of resignation in your voice. Well, I think he's a good pass rusher. I really do. I like him. I like the bend. I think he can capture the edge.

You know, he's uh, he's one of those guys you have good get off. Oh he has some good get off too. Surely he surely does. So Philadelphiagles with a nice pick there at the fourteenth. Overall, in my life would have dreamed that Malie Hooker would still be on the board. It's what if Malik Hooker makes it to twenty eight. What do I even saying that? Why are you even saying that? Yeah? But I mean everything we've heard is the medicals came back clean. Yeah, no, the medicals.

There's no problems on the medicals. No problems that that actually was told by a couple of different UH training staffs that the hamstring stuff is overblown. That's an overblown situation. And I don't want to speculate without too much information, but is this maybe related to the Conley situation? I mean, there there's blowback that maybe he was there that night. I really don't know. I mean, I don't know enough about the situation. I don't if you're talking about an accessory,

I mean, he hasn't been named in anything. No, No, he hasn't. It's yeah, yeah, you're right, it's total total really speculation on that right there. But you know, Okay, let me ask you this. If if he gets if he gets to if he gets to Denver at twenty, anybody making a call, anybody interested in going? Yeah, anybody going interested? And we talked about Tampa Bay being a team at nineteen, that they are, that they are, that Tampa Bay is a team at nineteen that was interested

in bailing out of their pick. Oh, let's say the Colts are in and they're like, oh my god, Hooker's still there. Yeah. Yeah. To follow up on that point, though, I would do that deal for a pass rusher again, if you don't have it's quarterback and the guy who can get to the quarterback. Right. I don't know if I get rid of a top one hundred pick for

a safety, yeah, I don't know. I don't like it. Yeah. Well, the Colts pulled up Brian broad Us and they were on the clock, and they went quick, who's the new guy up there? U? Who's my guy, the guy that came from Petty City, your buddy Dane, Chris Ballard. Yeah, Chris Ballard. Chris Ballard, he knows players. He's not waiting around. Heck no, he knows what he's doing up there. Do you think he's taking Hooker here? Best player on the board? I easy by a long shot. So to me, it

makes absolute sense. Colts need difference makers on defense. Millie Cooker is a great place to start, and for Chris Ballard kind of kicking off his new regime in Indianapolis, you gotta love it. I don't think they ever thought Mallie Cooker would be available here. But you know, we also talk about Jonathan Allen's still here. You know, some of these players that we thought would might go top ten, top twelve are here. So they've got some options. Yeah,

Ruben Foster is still available. They could use a lineback, Yeah, they sure could. If you look at their look at their situation. Corner, defensive end, outside linebacker, a right guard, right tackle, running back, and an inside linebacker. So if they take Hooker, they're just taking the player on their board, right if you, if you, if you think about their team needs. So again, the picks in for the Colts.

We're just waiting for them to officially announce it. But the once they once they got on the clock, there was really not a lot of hesitation right there, buy them to get that done well or or to hand that card in. Keep talking about Malie Cooker, I mean it's just again, he was a number two player on my board, number two. I think he can be a game changer, a guy that can take over a game. And you know, usually you don't count on your defense to get you points. This guy can with his ability

to create turnovers and make plays. So if I think you're absolutely right, Chris Ballard, once he saw the pick at number fourteen, put the card or name on the card running up there. I don't care how much time we have left. Yeah, we're not trading out of them like that. Yeah. Again, he pulled one of my tricks. You know what, I know what player I want sent you with a dog flipping over the fence. Oh yeah, if you give me that when i'm I'm the dog

flipping over the fence. Yeah, without a doubt. I mean this. You know, this guy is ah, this guy's the best best free safety in the draft. And and Dane's right when you start talking about the things that he could do playing out of the middle of that field. It's a Stephen Holder who covers the cults up in Indianapolis. Is he's calling it for MALIEK. Cooker on Twitter and he says he'd be He's saying, I spent no time thinking about this as a pick because it seems so

improbable at the start of the night. Yeah, well that's that's one. I don't think many people had Malik Hooker mocked to Indianapolis. I really really don't. So Yeah, this, this seems like what you talk about, a no brainer pick, even though we talked about all the various needs that they might have. Well, that's and you know that's investigate and educate, right, that's right. I mean, something's gonna happen. That's gonna change your perspective. You're not something. You're not

gonna expect everything you got. You do your best. But a guy that you never anticipated false to you of fifteen? What are you supposed to do? Yeah, well here we you know, again, the picks in and we'll see if in fact it's Millie Koker. But no one else does anything else for you? Though Foster we talked about Foster a Allen. Yeah, but no, I mean the runners. I mean the runners are on the board. He's still got

cook on the board. You know that's a team that could use a running Yeah, you're right to me, I would have drafted Millie Cooker a long time ago. And so I mean, I knowing Chris ballor like I do, I think he is looking to take the best player available. He's looking for an impact player on defense. And again he's this is his first draft pick ever as a general manager. Yeah, ever, And so you know you want to make have a home run hit here, best player available.

That's what Chris Ballor believes in. Yeah, so I think Millie Cooker here makes a lot of sense. And unless there's something we don't know about why he's fallen this far to this point, it makes too much sense not to happen. Yeah, Chris Ballard, though, worked with John Dorsey, and here's the commissioner walking to the podium. But they're both sliding a little bit. Yep, it's a commission. With the fifteenth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL drafts, the

Indianapolis Colts select Malik Hooker. There you go, defensive back Ohio State. Yeah, best best guy on the board right there. That's pretty simple. Look at Millie Cooker. I get it. He was a one year starter, redshirt sophomore, came out early. But man, that one year, those fourteen games the tape as impressive. His range in the back half of the field, his instincts, the ball skills, way he can create. Give

me Millie Cooker on my team all day long. I know we hear we throw away around the Ed Reid comparisons, which is just it's it's unfair to we're talking about a future Hall of Famer, one of the best to ever do it. So it's unfair to MILLIEK. Cooker to put that on him. But you can't help but see a little bit of that with the way he plays the game, which the way that he sees he sniffs out those plays and goes and gets him, and he makes him and he finishes. I mean he averaged twenty

seven yards per interception return on seven picks. That's yeah, that's ridiculous, as you don't see that every day. Surprise, he's still here. But you wonder if he was fully if he didn't have those two surgeries and he had the full pre drift process, if he still falls like this. Yeah, he's just he's just just too much ability there. I mean, he covers so much ground. Yeah, that's what you need. You need those guys, especially the way the teams try

and stretch you out down the field. You know, you better have a guy that could play sideline to sideline and and and get through those deep balls and you watch him run. He can get there in a hurry. It does an outstanding job. Hey, Brian, who are the top two guys left on your board? Uh? Well, I've got I've got actually got I got. OJ Howard still left my board, cook Mix and McDowell, Williams, McKinley, Lawson,

Alan Foster, and Cunningham. For the purposes of making my point, the top two guys left on this sheet are Jonathan Allen and O. J. Howard. Yeah, where'd they go to school? Yeay? Alabama? Who's picking next? This would be Ozzie Newsome would be on the clock. And I got a feeling. I gotta feeling. You got a feeling this one? You got a feeling. I don't want to pick which one, but I just feel like, well, they need offensive line really bad. There's

an Alabama offensive lineman in this. Yeah, well this sixty. If you if you look at if you look at their needs there twelfth and pass offense twelfth, Goba be twelfth and pass offense twenty eighth and run offense. Uh. Pass defense was ninth, run defense was fifth. Run defense was really good. I remember that being a storyline heading into the Cowboys Ravens game. I mean, Zeke kind of

ran over him, but he did that to everybody. Could we could we see Let's see their needs here, wide receiver, defensive end, outside linebacker, right tackle, defensive line and then cornerback. Right tackle sticks out like a sore thumb. They lost Rick Wagner and they really don't have anyone capable on the roster to fill that need. I mean that it could this be the first offensive lineman or than Night. Is this okay? You got Robinson, who's an Alabama kid?

So I just just mentioned that. Hi, Yeah, it's first offensive tackle off the Board's gonna be Cam Robinson. Well it's you know, everybody believes it's gonna be Ram Chick and I yeah, and the hips checked out. Fine, it has hip checked out? Fine, are going to clear you? You sold me that Cam Robinson's not any good, Brian, you sold me on that. That's what you told me. I don't disagree. I mean, it's a player that ends up on the ground too much. The balance issues, I guess,

I guess the point I was trying to. I mean, are we just like with Malee Hooker, are we at a situation where the Ravens never could have dreamed that either Alan or Howard would be there? I mean we're talking about both of them being top ten picks. I mean, Max Williams from Minnesota. The tight end a couple years ago is not panned out. Uh, the b YU tight end, Pitta, he's still there, always hurt exactly. So I mean Howard's in play here. And really this is kind of what

I saw his floor. I didn't go Ja Howard would get past twelve in Cleveland, but they traded out. Yeah, he could have gone. I thought you'd go ten to Buffalo. They trade it out. Okay, Well, Baltimore hasn't fallen their lap the heck of a pick. I mean I would and not. Yeah, I know they have Max Williams. I don't care. I mean, get your right. So yeah, I think O. J. Howard should be in play here as well as the first offensive lineman. I went with Forest Lamp in my in my in my mock. I was

told they really liked him. I don't know these offensive line there's it's kind of like the quarterbacks. You ask different teams, you get different opinions about who's the top one. You know how early they should go. And I will say this is simplifying it a little bit, but I feel a lot better drafting one of these guys if I'm asking him to play right tackle at least right away. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I I'm of the opinion

left and right tackles interchangeable, or at least they should be. Yeah, you get rushers from both then right. Yeah. So, but I I get what you're saying. I worried just because like, none of these tackles I've ever played right tackle, they're all left tackles. Sure, what are all the Alabama connections still on the board. Well, we got Robinson, O J. Howard, Jonathan Allen, Marlon Humphrey. Ah, I forgot about Humphrey. Yeah, I'm just I'm kind of thinking about what are you thinking?

I'm thinking though, I'm just because Ozzie. Ozzie loves his Alabama guys. There's no doubt there's it's gonna be. It's gonna be Abama player. It has to be, you think so, No, I mean it would just it would be a good storyline. C. J. Mosley kind of fell a little bit. Yeah, but he would couple two years ago or three, three years ago now and Baltimore scooped him up. Sure once again, needs I don't feel we don't feel like too early? Is it totally? For Godwin from Penn State, he would be

my next wide receiver that would blow me away. Yeah, okay, Well, then to take him out of the mix. Defensive end, outside linebacker, who do you like you have? Do you have anybody in mind? Pass rusher at this point is tack? Yeah? For what I mean? Oh, well, you mentioned Alabama connections. We forgot Foster too. Yeah. No, I mean that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Well, and then you know you look

at that, you look at the right tack. We've already talked about Cam Robinson, defensive lineman, Alan, We've talked about him, cornerback. We talked about the Alabama court. Humphrey, Humphrey. Yeah, I mean, do you think about Humphrey. I thought Philly wasn't playing at Philly at fourteen because they need a corner really badly. He probably becomes the number two corner in this draft for a lot of teams after the Conny situation. Yeah, we know that the Ravens have a need at corner.

Yea possible. The Ravens also play in the AFC North. Here we go, allady is key, Yeah, here we go. Picks in. I'm joined by t j Or Wannabe from Laurel, Maryland, who is participating in the Make a Wish program. Right, well, you give a kind of true. TJ is fourteen years old. He's a cancer survivor. He loves to play football and watch his Ravens. Okay, t J, It's time to make your dream come true. God. With the sixteenth pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens

select Marlon Humphrey defensive. There you go, am a connection. I had the wrong Bama guy, but I was right in the in the thought process, it'd called mister brought us. Yeah, it's just it's Aussies. That's that's Austy in his Alabama. I you know. But I'll tell you what, Dane, You've been spot on and your team needs you really really have and that that's helped me a lot. Think about you know what they what they potentially good to do. So thumbnail about Marlon Humphrey. When build a corner, it

looks something like Marlin Humphrey. He's north of six foot long, arms, a four or four athlete. You know his dad as a former first round pick, Bobby Humphrey, the running back. YE played against him pretty good. Huh yeah, he played I watched him play. Yeah, uh, you know, this is a player that the physicality is there. I mean, this is probably the most aggressive corner in this draft in terms of run support. Uh. You know, he enjoys contact,

which you can't say about most corners. But what he really needs to improve on is down the field, turning his head, locating, making a play in the ball. It's something that burned him quite a bit on several occasions when you watch him on film. But similar to say Landon Collins. I know it's a different position. It's safety, but a player we watched Alabama get burned a little

bit and needed to get better in coverage. And he has Marlin Humphrey only a rechard sophomore, a very young player I think will get better in coverage down the field and then be can live up to this draft spot the number two corner in this draft. Yeah. I you know, me personally, I thought Marlon Humphrey might be better suited to play strong safety in this league. You know,

I don't have a problem with him. I don't have a problem with him starting out with corner, but I feel like that maybe his best position down the road would be strong safety, where you can let things stay in front of him. He could play really deep and he could keep things in front. When you watch him drive on the football, he's impressive. Oh yeah, he's impressive because he will knock you unconscious. And he watched the USC tape and he's blowing up guys right and left.

So I thought, maybe his better position. You talk about the turn, find the ball and out of stuff, Maybe if you could keep things in front of where he doesn't have to turn his back a whole lot to the play and he can go do it. Well, let's see if if, if that in fact can happens, because yeah, could we see a run on now Alabama players now well here's here's yeah, yeah, yeah, the rushington here. I think they could use both those players Jonathan Allen Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Uh And then I mean, Howard isn't not necessarily a need for Washington with Jordan Read But you know, you just never know because of the value at this point. So I mean we're, well, there's a nightmare of mind of this. Jonathan Allen ended up at Washington here real real quick. Just uh, circling back to the Cowboys, So

Humphrey makes two thirty visits that the Cowboys had. That's gone now, right, Humphrey and Barnett, Right, okay, Right, So you're you're on this about about Jonathan Allen though you think this, you think this is a great fit for them at the hey, of course it's a great He's one of the best three techniques in this draft. Oh yeah, absolutely, And it's this has to be a shoulder issue. Yeah. I mean, you can't watch Jonathan Allen's tape and tell me he is not a top ted pick in this draft.

You can't do it. Yeah, he absolutely is. So I think this is team's just kind of scared off a little bit, but at some point and you just have to believe that you know, it's worth it, and for the for the Redskins here that that's it might be worth it. I don't know, only they know what the medical information that their trainers gave them what that says. But you know, it's it's it's interesting, Miles, Miles Jack.

We talked about last year how you know, issues down the line, and it's kind of similar with Alan where teams aren't necessarily worried about right now, it's the shoulder and at what point are those shoulders going to be an issue, is it? You know? At the combine, Jonathan Allen said, it's not something you have to worry about until after his playing career is done. Right when he's fifty. That's when those arthritic shoulders were going to you know,

be an issue for him. Maybe some team medical stabs had different opinion on that and think, you know what, We're not sure he's going to play five years and do his rookie deal until with those shoulders giving him some issues. So we just don't know at this point. Yeah, dave your thoughts on potentially, Nathan all I mean I thought he hit him pretty well where I mean just as suit right now, think about this pick. What would what would he do for Washington? That's what I want

to know. What do you mean play players there? You'd be there? I mean they don't play a four to three right? Oh no, I mean, but I mean Alabama played a three four. Yeah, it kicked him inside and the nickel right yeah, Okay, yeah, that's and that's what I'm asking. I'm just curious. I think it'd be a perfect fit for him because he can play he can play the five technique, he can play inside, can play outside,

the tackles shoulder. I mean, that's one of the appeals to me with Jonathan Allen is not just the power and the quickness, but how smart he is, how versatile is I mean, he can he can do those different things. And for the Redskins again, if they're they're okay with the shoulders, gosh, I mean, it's this heck of a pick here. Yeah, well it's uh, the Redskins pick is in where we'll get it here from the commissioner. Momentarily,

I I just don't know. Again, I think I think you're right about the shoulders day, but I don't see it as being something that you know, I didn't get the feeling that everybody was, you know, it was like to the point where he was going to drop all the way down to seventeen know how this team felt about his shoulders. Now, I didn't feel like it was I didn't feel like it was bad. At what point do you start talking about going up to get Jonathan Allen if you're this team, if you're yeah, the Cowboys.

Well see that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We were talking about the twenties. I mean, yeah, I mean I I don't know. I just don't see how Washington passes this guy, though I agree. I mean, I like what we were talking about. He plays defensive in in the and the scheme of three four scheme in Alabama plays the five technique in passing situations. You kick him inside, and now he's playing a one gap against against guards, right. You know, I'm sez, I I don't

know how you. I don't know how you sit there and uh and pass him if you're the Washington Redskins. I really really don't. But that's maybe I'm being cheerleading it for my my board. Well, no, I mean I haven't talked to anyone who believes Jonathan Allen's not worth a top ten pick. Yeah, maybe even a top five pick. I mean he's he's that good of a player. Yeah, but it's just the durability factor and what are the

concerns there? So what I mentioned earlier about a run on Alabama players, it makes a lot of sense here, whether it is Foster, I mean, Jonathan Allen, if if the medicals are okay, it's a home run pick here for Washington. But you know, I don't know it's Washington's front office is going through kind of a state of flux. You know, we know obviously Scott mcluin is no longer there, right, who's making this pick that? Bruce Allen? Yeah, I mean

you know they're a wild card. Yeah, with direction, they could go there. I think this is where I think this is a head I think the head coach is now driving the personnel department there in Washington real quick, I really do I think that. I think Bruce Bruce is not a capable general manager. He's the president of the team. I think it's a guy you want the room, shaking hands and patting people on the back. But this this, this is clearly going to be Jake Gruden's uh buying

the groceries here. I just want to shine a light on Jason Garrett right now, just chowing down on those reading glasses. He's got what's what do you what do you think that what's going on in there? Well, Stephen and Jerry. I've been watching them. Stephen and Jerry have been kind of back and forth, hitting each other in the ribs. So maybe they feel like though that their guy is going to be there, so maybe and like they should feel good about that, Like none of their

guys have gone yet, but doesn't. It just kind of sucks sitting there and like watch, well that's what that's what that's here he is, He's just sitting there wat Will McClay, Chris Hall, you know, clears with the glasses on top of his head. I mean, right now, it's getting close to your time. I mean, it's getting close to you. Here we go commission with the selection. With the seventeenth pick in the two thousand seventeen NFL drafts,

the Washington Redskins select Jonathan Allen. There you go, Alabama, Jonathan Allen, There you go. You think you think the Cowboys NFC East rivals are tired of dealing with that offensive line, Yeah, because you've got I mean, the Giants love to stock their defensive line. Now you got Derek Barnett and Philly to go with Fletcher Cox, and you got Jonathan Allen and Washington. Now, yeah, that'll be fun. Just had my number two and three players on my board,

go fifteen and seventeen. Wow, I mean that's those are steals, absolute steps. It's amazing that he lasted that long. Again, I did not hear anything. Maybe after the draft we'll start to hear some things about the medical stuff, but I did not get the feeling that that was going to be a problem. But Jonathan Allen, the very talented defensive end tackle Yorcity of Alabama is now Washington Redskins. Okay,

let's I mean reset the board. A top five players on my board right now, Ruben Foster, Ryan Ramcheck tackle from Wisconsin, Dalvin Cooke the running back from Florida State, OJ Howard tight end from Alabama, and then David the Joe Coup the tight end from Miami. So both tight ends still out there right. Uh, you know we have Tennessee who you know. We talked how they needed that weapon, right Marcus Mariota. Well they went and got it at the fifth pick. Could they double up maybe give him

another weapon with these tight ends still available? Well they could, but let's let's look at their Let's look at their needs as well. Though what you got for Tennessee. We talked about some of the issues on defense that they had. They need a corner, They need a corner. I mean this, you know what corners you got, what corners you like? I mean that's their number one need. According to Dave Brugler, is is a cornerback. Yeah, which one of these cornerbacks?

Do you really really like? Sordevius White's my next best corner. But this is a little early for him. I know they like Hidobio Woozier the Colorado corner. Is that too early for him? Yeah? I mean it is, at least in our opinion. That doesn't mean it's not too early for this team. Uh, because remember that Tennessee does not have a second round pick that belongs to Cleveland, so they're not going to get a Woozier if they wait until the third third round pick. Could they make that

pick here? Uh? I mean shock a lot of people. But you know, if you trust your evaluation and a Woozier is really the player you like, go and get them. Well, the cornerbacks that I I mean again, it's it's a it's a banged up group of you know, like when you start talking about some guys not running well, the Tabors, Moreau White, Tankers, Lely King, Dory Jackson, Dorry Jackson, that's a player we talked about a lot for the Cowboys

at twenty. Yeah, I think that I think that we have to cover just one on the Yeah, I think would Center war room. But yeah, there they go. Yeah, so they must be uh Jerry's on the phone. Yeah yeah, Jerry's on the phone, uh hanging out here. So uh

they're they're working that phone. Let's see if in fact that they got anything uh anything going uh with uh with the this trade possibilities or you know, like I say, people calling uh that they've they've moved the camera around to where we cannot see what's going on there at all. So that going back to what you mentioned about the needs. What do I have as a number one need for

the Titans cornerback? And this is we talked about, you know, the corners after Lattimore goes then you know Connley was going to be the next guy, but he's off the board obviously, right, And then we have we have Marlon Humphrey, right, Dory Jackson, Treddavious White, players that we thought might be there at twenty eight. This is where we're gonna If you're a Cowboys fan, you start to think about your

guys being taken off the board. Yeah, I'm glad you said that, Dane, because like just I just walking down the halls here for five seconds, You're just like, there's this energy because everybody's like, oh, Howard's still there? What about what about this guy? Oh my god, blah blah blah. I just I love Draft Night. It's my favorite. It's the best. Yeah. Well they we'll see what in fact, but I think that we look at we look at Tennessee, we talk about it again. Their their pick is in.

I'm with Dane on this though. I think, you know, cornerback is uh, that's that's a glaring, glaring problem for them. And no, who who is the best corner that any And now, like you said, Dane, if you're the Cowboys, you're worried about losing the guy. You're worried about losing the guy that you're gonna take at twenty eight you thought would be there. Well, you're not gonna get all the way to twenty eight without losing a few guys that are gonna Yeah, but the cornerbacks, you know that's

what that's the you know, that's the things. Well, hey, we've been sitting here this whole time saying, you know, maybe all the pass rushers are going to be wiped out. Maybe it's the other way around. I mean, there's nobody here's a commissioners on the clock, sorry, on the on the podium, the Tennessee Titans select, but Dory Jacks. Oh you see, we've been talking about how the NFL likes a Dori jack and more than we do. Yeah. Uh, he's an undersized corner with he needs a lot of

refinement with his technique. But this is a player who's a premier athlete, who can be an impact player as a turn man. And you you are very encouraged about the corner. He could be down the road right now. He's a nickel at best. Uh, and so I think you have to treat him as such. But again with

the upside, and you know you talked about it. You know what the defensive coordinator at USC, how he he talked about with Jabrill Peppers, talk about with this guy, how he stretched so thin, he right in track right, he was in the offensive meeting room. The defensive meeting room is a special team's room. And you know here he goes. So you know this is who Hi, we both had. Dorry Jackson mocked to the Cowber. It's not going to happen, not because the Cowboys weren't interested, but

because he's off the board ten picks ahead. I mean, and you're right. I've heard that for a while that the NFL likes a Dorry Jackson more than the media and you know analysts too. But eighteen is I'm legitimately steep. I'm I'm not saying it's steep. I'm not I'm not trying to say that he's not good enough to go eighteen. I just I'm legitimately pretty stunned. Like he was a guy I would have. I said today that I was really confident there'd be a handful of names there at

twenty eight, and I was. I was pretty damn confident he would have been there at twenty eight. Okay, Well, Dorry Jackson is close meeting with the commissioner right now. He's getting his jersey and getting a big hug. Tennessee at nineteen. They're not wasting any time their picks in two Tampa, Tampa. Oh see, I'm sorry, Tennessee just made the pickout Tampa. How about Tennessee. They're not afraid to take players ahead of where they should. Absolutely, Corey Davis, Yeah,

Doory Jackson. They took the best players on their board. Uh. But I tell you what if you're Jason Lett in Tampa you could use the tight end. Oh, there's no doubt you Yeah, you could. Yeah. I think this is a perfect spot. If you look at the names that are on the board right now are the guys that are left. You know, he makes the absolute best sense. You talk about the player that people would have to

deal with, could help the young quarterback. There just there's just too many, too many positive things about O. J. Howard not to be taken that. Now. This is the easy part of the draft for us, right, I mean, because it's all of a sudden, it's like, well, heck, he's the best player. Well he's the best player. Well he's the best player. This is where it's real simple. You see these teams handing in the cards real early.

They see the best players. Look at the highlights they're showing a Dorry Jackson right now, all the fall in his hand. Yeah, and that's when he has the ball in his hands, he can be a game changer. And that's why in my report on a Dorry Jackson I mentioned that his best NFL fit might be as a Tyreek Hill type player. I mean, you motioned him out of the backfield, you just get the ball in his hands. In creative ways what he can do is return man.

I worry about him as a corner, but he is a premier athlete who can be a game changer with the ball. You make a good point, Brian, which obviously it's it's better to pick at the beginning of the

round and get the better player. But if there's a silver lining of picking twenty eight, you know, the rest of the league kind of makes your choice easier for you, hopefully, especially if your board doesn't line up with theirs, if they look at what I don't think Washington had to think that hard, and obviously Tampa didn't have to think that hard about what they did either. So hey, get the rest of the league to help you out and make a decision. And I don't and I don't think

that really. You know, we talked about Tampa's needs corner, free safety, strong safety, running back, linebacker, wide receiver. I mean to me, I mean, if you're just if you're taking if Jason Lights taking the best player left on his board, Yeah, it makes perfect sense to take Oj Howard here. That's just a no brainer. I had David and the JOKU mocked to Tampa, but never thinking Oj Howard be available. So Yeah, it just makes too much sense.

I mean, it's this is a gift. Give Jamis Winston a weapon, uh that he can play right away and impact your offense. This is a gift at nineteen. Well it's this, Yeah, absolutely, if you just look at the best player and we we've I've said that a lot, just this Tampa, and Tampa's got a good young team, they really really do. And so the opportunity here to

add a weapon to help. That's a team you have to deal with with the wide receivers, and now you deal with, say a vertical if if in fact he's the pick at nineteen, I mean, that's a that's a vertical tight end you have to deal who's not a bad blocker. He actually can help him a little bit in the running game. Yeah, that's blocking tight end in his class, right, Yeah, that makes that makes a whole heck of a lot of sense. We're talking about Adam Sheen. I meant to say, among the you know, I'm just

among the top guys. I know you love Shaheen. Yeah, I know that's your boys. Throw his name in the first round. Hey, we're not talking about him Thursday night, but we'll talk about tomorrow one day when you're a GM one, pick Adam one day in the first round. We're gonna call him. We're gonna call Dane up one day and he's gonna go, who who are you? Who are you go? Because Dane's gonna bring me on as his writer. It's gonna be great. Oh who are you?

Yeah exactly, Yeah, it's all right. Well, uh yeah, we're we're we're working our way down to to Dallas. Pick as you can see a war room cam at the Ford excuse me, the Ford cent of war room cam is on. Uh. Jerry Jones has left the table and he's upset to see a Dory gun. Yeah. I really think a Dory would have been the pick at twenty eight.

I think so. That's I think so too. In my heart of hearts, I didn't mock a Dory this morning, but in my heart of hearts, I kind of got the feeling that he would be the guy, just based on who I thought would be there. Well, here they go, there there, there. Everybody's kind of smiling, I mean, considering they they probably lost a guy that they wanted, but there's other others there. Well okay, But and when we get down there, like say, we have to figure out here.

The flip side of that coin is that we're I mean, we're still a ways away, but we're coming up on pick twenty right, and like one guy that you really thought had a real shot to be a cowboy's gone. Yeah, and a lot can happen between twenty and twenty eight, But I feel good about where they are in terms of you know, if you've got a short list of four or five guys that you really like at that spot, you still got most of them there. So it's it's

definitely not time to press the panic button. No, not yet. And as you notice on the war the Fort Center war Room Camp, Todd Williams, he's again the contracts football ops talking to Steven Jones right there. So folks, evidently they're feeling pretty comfortable to chasing Carrott. He reminds me so much of his dad. His dad used to sit right there and not say a word, watch what was going on. Everything around him is kind of going a little crazy, but he's his average is the same color

as yeah, yeah, exactly. He's having a nice iced tea there. But anyway, will McClay, Chris Hall, they're all just checking it out. Okay, well they're gonna check out here. The Tampa based pick at one in the twenty seventeen NFL drafts, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select O. J. Howard the Alabama I mean that one that was an easy one to forecast. It was just the need, the talent and what's available. It just matched up perfectly. I mean, you give Jamis

Winston some help on that offense. Uh at nineteen. I just I didn't think he gets this far. But you know, good for the Bucks to get him. Oh. Also, he's not going to be a New York Giant, which I think should relieve Cowboy fans everywhere personally. So you're happy about that He's It was kind of like last year, you know, back in the early going, when we didn't know exactly where Zeke was going. Everybody was saying, Zeke to the Eagles, Oh God, we're gonna have to stop

this guy for the next decade. Well I had visions of that with OJ Howard for sure, especially for the remainder of Eli Manning's career. So, uh, you know, Cowboys, Yeah, go go play in Tampa, OJ Howard, don't play the Cowboys Twice a year. I don't. You can ask Jason Latte the first words out of his mouth and the post draft press conference should be I never thought in a million years he would get to us. I really

think that's that's the truth. But there he was, for him and surprised it took him so long to get the cardon. Yeah, well really nice job. I mean really not a thing that we thought as a team need. But just again, you start talking about who's the players on the board, you know, I mean that's your who's the best players? And so clearly you know Oj Howard one of those guys. So congratulations to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

I think, grabbing a hell of a football player. So we we now moved to the Denver Broncos or on the clock and their pick is in Well, what are we talking about all along with Denver? It's gonna be offensive line. Yeah, it's gotta be some maybe one of the tackles. How many offensive linemen are off the board, Well none of them are, So they have the ram Check, Robinson and Bowls would be your top guys, right, So they have their pick of any offensive linemen in this draft,

which it works out perfectly for them. They can go if they bowls. If that's the tackle they want, they want to go ram check. They could go in any direction here depends on which tackle they believe is the best. I love the way this works out there, Like you know, since January, the pick to Denver has been a tackle, and I feel very confident it's gonna be a tackle right now, which I just it's fun when it works out that way. Well, it's just uh yeah, it's uh,

we'll see. I mean, they are a team that they're they've been just dying for offensive linemen, especially tackle. Here we go, Commissioners at the podium. In the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Garrett Balls, tackle Utah. Somebody wake up the baby, Thank you Rich. There we go. He's a great story. I mean he was after high school. His dad kicked him out of the house because he's such a knucklehead. I mean, this guy he found trouble,

and trouble found him wherever he went. He was out of football for a lot of years. Then he went on a church mission, kind of turned his life around. Wound up at Snow College, same Juco that star Lotulelee was at one point. Yeah, then goes to Utah where only one season of Yes football, I love tackle, but he is the most most athletic tackle in this draft. Does he need power or strength worth? Absolutely? Does he need technique work, Yes, but you don't. You can't teach

that athleticism. He can't coach that up at that size. Now, the fact that he's an older player, I gotta love that he brought his baby onto the Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool. He Uh part of we talked about Garrett b is like a lion king moment holding Simba up. Yeah, we talk about Garrett Bulls. You can't help but talk about his past issues in the background. But he was

married about a year ago, I had a child. I think he's he's he's older, you know, so I think there is You do think he has matured and that has played a big part in him coming off the board. Yeah, well that's it. You know, you gotta wonder why you talk about all the things that uh, you know that he's uh, he's had to deal with in his in his life. You know, he's very very proud here the baby, he's got the jersey, the baby in the Jersey. That's gonna be framed. You know. We felt like that. We

felt like that Denver uh needing to tackle. Come on, ram Check on the board, you know, still available, you know, and we talked about the medical stuff. I felt like, you know, these tackles, you got so many different opinions with ram Check to Robinson to Bowls. Some really like Bulls. There are several teams with ram Check as their top offensive tackle on their board. You know it just Denver

preferred Bulls because at the athleticism. Uh, and you know, I get it, but man, he's gonna need a lot of work, and he's already he's going to be a twenty five year old rookie, right. You just hope that the learning curve is not going to be too much for him, is it? How Hey hey, all right, so we the quarter of light bulb. The light bulb just went off. Yeah that tackle. Those tackles are lasting. Yeah, yeah, that's that's good news for that for the Cowboys, right,

not only for a trade. But I'm sitting okay, you know, just spitballing just based on mock drafts. But okay, the Seattle Seahawks or a team that you see linked to offensive linemen um also linked to Kevin King. That's a really popular pick for them. The longer these guys last, the more I mean the New York Giants need an offensive lineman. Yeah. So again you're talking about pushing defensive

players down the board. If New York or a Seattle decides to go tackle, well, I think there's a good chance we see Miami go Forest Lamp, the Giants go Ramchecker Robinson, and then Seattle take the tackle that the Giants don't take. Yeah, so I think there's a good chance we see any offensive tackles the next six picks. And obviously you can't guarantee that, but if that happens, the Cowboys will have their pick of the litter of whoever they decide is worth it. Yeah, yeah, obviously it's

it's what you want to see. Yeah. And he also factor in Ruben Foster still out there, Yeah he is. Yeah, you think there's a good bet he goes somewhere the next seven picks. Well, let's talk about Detroit and they're on the clock at twenty one. The picks in for Detroit needs defensive in outside linebacker, wide receiver, cornerback, tight end, boy They almost got their tight end, didn't they tight ends? The interesting one here? Yeah. Assistant coach now in Detroit

is Al Golden. Yeah, who recruited David the Joku to Miami. Yeah, Alcohol Golden. Right. Eric Ebroun has not quite lived up to the top ten status that he was. He hasn't been terrible, but he hasn't lived up to it. They have a decision to make with his fifth year option coming up and no Joeku's he's a possibility here. Yeah, I've kind of It's always funny. It seems like the Lions are They're always Why why are they still struggling to find tight ends? Well, I mean it seems like

they're always because none of the ones they draft. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, do you feel like they're gonna waste? Not waste? And I don't mean to call it waste. I'm not calling it waste. But Eric Abron could have been Aaron Donald or Odell Beckham just for whatever that's worth. So sure, I'm comfortable calling it a waste. You're comfort calling a waste? I mean, no, no offense, I get well, it need top need for

Detroit defensive end outside linebacker, linebacker. Yeah, that's I really felt like this pick was going to be the pass rusher of the linebacker. The top linebackers on the board. You got Foster, Jared Davis, pass rushers, Charles Harris. Yeah, you see they're they're pasted to Charles Harris Steel by the way. So I thought Charles Harris was going to be one of the very surprises. Yeah. I thought he was very surprised. But are we into trade up range?

I don't know, man, Yeah, they're not. They now they took us off air for a little bit. Jerry and McClay were out of the room. Yeah, fifteen now five ten. I think they're I think they're I think they're sitting this one. I think they're just gonna sit here and see what's happened there. It's the picks in for Detroit, so that'd be six picks to them. Uh ash as we speak. So, uh okay, you you mentioned linebackers, talk about We know about Foster. A guy we haven't talked

a bunch about is Davis. Javis. Yeah, he's one of my favorite. He's a first round pick all day. He was one of those guys that doesn't get enough to do. Uh. And you know, my my favorite line on him is there is not a passive bone in his body right. Unfortunately, those bones have been bruised and battered and sprained and durability is the only reason we're not talking more about Jared Davis. He was an animal in Florida. Can play inside,

can play outside. I think he's probably best as a SAM at the NFL level, But I really like everything he brings to the table. Really, the only thing I worry about was just staying healthy. Uh. You know, he's had plenty of issues at Florida that kept them off the field, But when he's on the field, no brainer for as run pick. Yeah, we I like what you're saying. I'll tell you what I thought the tough to I

thought it was extreme toughness. You know, you were talking about maybe sometimes getting caught on the wrong side, you know, with a read. But when he took it on, I mean he was He was a physical, physical guy at that point of agressive. Yeah, so aggressive. He loves the play. We talk about Ruben Foster in the same light, I mean Jared Davis, there's not I don't think there's a big gap between Ruben Foster and Jared Davis. I really

don't really, it's just a durability that's the big factor here. Yeah, And Dave, I mean the Lions defensively. I mean last year we saw them, you know, late in the season here, Yeah, gave up some he kind of took it on the chin. Yeah, give him some big yards. Yoh yeah. Well, and and if that's the pick, that's great. It's just and I guess I shouldn't be surprised because I feel like I said that all spring is you know, how concerning are these red flags for Ruben Foster that you're getting into

the twenties. Now, it's not even that you're taking other players over Ruben Foster, but you're straight up taking a linebacker over him, saying, hey, we'd rather this guy than you. And that is that the drug test, is that the hospital incident, is that the you know, the drug stuff from when he was in college is at the injury. While I'm reading them all off and all right, and I haven't answer to my question, I guess yeah, I just I just I'm interested to see because I thought defensively,

I thought they were bad. I just didn't like what they were doing defensively. I really really need help on defense. There's no Yeah, I mean, any any anybody they add on defense, I think it's gonna be Hey, haven't really been right since Sue left. Yeah, and they made that decision. Yeah, well but they were fighting for playoff spot at the very end. Yeah, but you know, defense, I just didn't feel like defensively that they were very good there. Well,

they made the playoffs this year. I mean, so they're they're a team that's ready to win. Now. I see, they're fine. They yeah, they were in the Yeah they did. They were in the playoffs. That's absolutely right. So I mean, give him a little more help on defense. Uh, you know, let Stafford continue to gel with that offense. They score any points in that playoff they scored like three points. Yeah,

they got their butts kicked. Yeah, sure it did. So I mean they're the first team out, uh yeah, starting at pick twenty one. It's the playoff teams right right right? Yeah, well, uh we'll see. I mean it's man, they the pick's been in for a while and the commissioners has yet to uh to roll to the podium though uh war room activity. Jerry Jones is looking at it looks like

he's got who here comes? Okay, here comes a commissioner for the pick for Detroit Lions first pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL drafts, the Detroit Lines sling Jared Davis. There you go, da shout. I believed Hasan Reddick would be drafted ahead of Foster. Yeah, I did not think that Davis would be ahead of Foster. But that does not mean that Foster is not a very good player, because he is. Again, it just comes down to the medicals and Candy stay healthy because if he can.

If you told me that Jared Davis is going to average between fourteen and sixteen starts throughout his rookie contract, then he's a top twenty player in this draft. And so I mean they're getting him right outside of the top twenty and out. He's a tone setter right on defense. So I like him best as a sam um. But you talk about range, you talk about speed, the power, I mean he'll go he doesn't want to go around people, He'll go through him. Yeah, that's that's clear on tape.

When he arrives at the ball carrier. I mean you hear it before you see it. It's just it's just a collision. So I really like Jared Davis and everything he can bring to the field. Okay, it means the Miami Dolphins where it pick twenty two. Jared Vis was picked twenty one. The Dolphins pick is already in. Let's quickly talk about their needs. I think the top two needs are you look at guard and you look at pass rush. Yeah, I mean a guard. Forrest lamp Is there,

he's one of the top players in this draft. Uh. Offensive line Uh. And then on defense they need you know, Mario Williams has gone. Cameron wake Is. They just signed him to a two year extension. But he's like thirty five years old. I mean he's on the back nine US and he's heading towards eighteen. But they could use a young pass rusher that can groom, you know, take put him underneath Cameron Cameron wakes Wings, you know, bring them up. So who do you like your pass rushers? Well?

Who I mean? But you got you got McKinley. Boston is the top of available. Yeah, who's it? Charles Harris, He's the top of ail. Charles Harris. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, Forrest lamp Charles Harris. Yeah, one of those two picks, or one of those two players has to be this pick, or if you want to match up the best available to what Miami has been looking for, those two make the most sense. Yeah, Dave, I could see I could

watch worried about losing Charles Harris here. I mean letting you spell I mean the picks in let's see any time you're gonna lose the guys eventually. Yeah, that's the way this works. Well, I mean, I'd like lamp to be here, though, I really liked pick. In the two seventeen NFL drafts, the Miami Dolphins select Charles Harris, defensive end Missouri. Is that the first pen throw of the night? The first that hurt me a little bit because you know what, and here I'm opened my big mouth and

I'm thinking, oh, we haven't heard Charles Harry. You know, here's here. We kind of thought he was gonna be in the middle of the drill. Here he is a picked twenty two. But again, big spots from you. It's you just it's just perspective. You're picking twenty eighth, you'd know that these guys are gonna go. They're not all gonna be there for it. Well, and let's be honest. I mean, are we really that I don't know? Charles

Harris is thirty one on my board. I just I think I feel like the Cowboys like Charles Harris a little? Can I be? Can I be real? Real? And I haven't watched I haven't watched as much tape as y'all, but I did. I watched a good amount of tape of all of the big names that we thought. And you weren't impressed with Charles Harris. This is this is me fake throwing my pin. I'm like, oh no, not Charles Harris, Like, It's fine, I don't care. I'm with you. I mean I and for that matter, Doriy Jackson falls

into that category for me too. Oh absolutely. So I'm just I'm feeling good right. I'm receiving a lot of feedback on Twitter about a Dori Jackson coming off the board and how happy Dallas fans are because I really believe he would have been the pick of twenty eight if he was available. Now we'll never know. But Charles Harris, another player who I think had a very good chance of being the pick of twenty eight, he's no longer an option. And we talked about it this is going

to be a guard or a pass rusher. They went with the position that means a lot more on the roster. It's no surprise at this point. Next four picks Giants, Raiders, Browns, and we have the Seattle Seahawks. So this is a prime location for some offensive lineman to come off the board starting. That's what I need. I need linemen to go. I need I need Oakland to leave Kevin King alone. But I'm feeling good about where we are right now.

I feel good. I mean we're at we're how many were five picks away from where we need to be. The farther we go into this, the more Malik mcdowall's dropping. Hey, I think that's also we need to watch throw and I'm not I'm honestly starting to feel like Ruben Foster is going to be that best available on day two. Guy that Ruben Foster and Dalvin Cook, both of them, I think is that I'm not crazy for thinking that. No, I mean it's definitely I'm surprised. Everything I heard was,

you know, with all the red flags. Yeah you're concerned, but you're going to trust the tape on this one. You're gonna take Ruben Foster, but to this point no one has. So Okay, Yeah, having said that, I would really love it if somebody took him here, because I'd want I want no part of him, right and if somebody else does, that's great. That leaves me a few more. I want to see offensive linemen. You want to see

Ruben Foster come off the board here? Okay, because say the say the Cowboys were up right now, who are the top three players they'd be looking at? Cowboys were up right now, I think you're looking at You're looking at Malik McDowell, Kevin King, Jack Tack McKinley. Um, maybe even the woozyer. Maybe well they Tankers? Um? What about White? Are we in a situation where we're talking about ram Check? Maybe? I don't just in terms of him. I mean, Bpa, yeah,

b pa, babe. Yet neither one of y'all wanted anything to do with that. Oh no, No, I mean, I I understand where you're going. I understand where you're going there, But I don't know if I would do that. I just feel like, you gotta go for the defense, though, you gotta, you gotta not what if I'd say something that's gonna make everybody but me just one of wretched. Let's let's actually Giants. Okay, the Giants arow the clock

real quick, Giants, Giants are on the clock. Okay, right tackle, linebacker, defensive line, tight end. The joke who's running back? Offensive line makes a lot of sense here, obviously in Cam Robinson ramcheck Forrest lamp All there. If they don't go that direction, they need a linebacker. But this is not a team that is traditionally drafted linebackers early. But Ruben Foster's there, I mean, do you really want, I mean,

think about the collision of Zeke and Ruben Foster. The Giants might have and I mean it worked out for him because they've invested so much in their secondary, in their line, but they might have the worst linebacker corps in the NFL. And but this is a team, it's kind of like the Cowboys in a one technique, you know this, Yeah, this is a franchise that they haven't

drafted a linebacker since like the early eighties. I mean, it's just traditionally they have not believed in the value of a linebacker in the first round, So maybe they never thought that a linebacker this good would be there. And that's very true. I mean that very well may be the case here because Ruben Foster top ten pick. When you talk about the tape, it's the red flags that are dropping him at this point. So at some points of value that you can't pass up, can they

pass up ram Check? No, that's offensive line I think is a clear favorite here. Clear and the ram Check Lamp Robinson, whoever's the top lineman on their board, that's the favorite here. But yeah, you know that you do have to look at Ruben Foster being available. You can't rule that as an option. But no, I think offensive line is definitely the favorite. The defense is legit. Yeah, I have a hard time believing they would pass. And I got to assume they like one of those three linemen.

Somebody get one of them, doesn't matter. Maybe hell, maybe you could play Robinson or ram Check at left tackle and move Flowers to right since he struggled on the left side. Or maybe you get Lamp and play him on the inside. It doesn't really matter. But I don't know. The offense was the problem for the Giants last year? Was it? Not? Yeah, you got you got receivers out the wazoo, right you got a quarterback, right, Paul Perkins was pretty solid. There's not really a running back that

you want to take here anyway. Yeah? Maybe well Dalvin Coo, Okay, which one is tight end? You like? Then? You said at Joku in jokull fascinating. Give me rank your tight ends then for me? Well, the next end, yeah is Evan Ingram, even though he's a wide receiver in my book, but I love it Evan Ingram. I mean you look at size, the speed. Uh you line them up in the slot and he can destroy you. Uh So I think you know, he's a first round pick all day.

I think he deserves more mentioned in the twenties. But ahead of the JOKEU is interesting. Well, here's the selection from the Giants. Let's see Whitney twenty third pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. The New York Giants select Evan Ingram. Wow they said no to in Joku? Wow? How about that saying forget saying no to in Joku? They said no to Ram? Check I said no to a tackle? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. Look, I love Evan Ingram. Yeah, I know he's not in a traditional

why tight end? You know? Inline guy. That's not what you want him doing. He's he's a one pop daddy as a blocker. Sure you not a sustain type of gape. So but line them up in the slot. I mean you know you well no, because I mean you've got Brandon Marshall there. Now, you got Beckham and Marshall on the edge. You got Sterling Shepherd in the slot. I mean, Evan Ingram's kind of your your You're making it hard to You're making him hard to cover. We oh yeah,

look at the firepower on that offense. But you are you surprised? You but you had you had in Joku and I did too. I had a JOKEU over Ingram myself. Yeah, I had him very close too. I mean the Joku was my what eighteen and Evan Ingram was twenty eight, so I mean not a huge gap. But again I had to Ingram as a wide receiver. Anyways, But are you surprised to see the Giants go? Yeah? Yeah, I'm really surprised because I thought they needed help with the

offensive line. Yeah, they still it. Ram Check. You know ram Check is say what you want? I mean, I have him as my best tackle. I have ram Check Robinson Bowls. I mean, I wasn't super super high on Bowls. But the fact that Ram checking again the medical reports I've got on him, there's not a problem with that hip. I mean, he's gonna get cleared in June. I just it's all it's kind of like it's the it's the argument about you know, why would the Cowboys draft a

tight end? Why would the Cowboys draft a running back? Like? How much? Why would they draft a wide receiver? How much more do you really need in terms of your skill players? Yeah? I like that. I don't this This feels like a superfluous pick to me. I mean, and it'll probably be good like that, I mean, their offensive but we're watching them opening day. Yeah, oh yeah, when Evan Ingram goes for seven catches and now they don't cover him, Yeah exactly. But I I mean, and maybe

they just really don't like those offensive linemen. But your quarterbacks older, you have skill players everywhere else. I don't Giants have a great history of taking big ten offensive lineman I would have drafted, you know, and and making him work. Pugh is pretty good. Yeah, Richland rich Weston, Richmond, rich rich Richberg, thank you. Yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah, Flowers is not. Yeah, but they don't there they struggle. Yeah,

we're to see that old Miss connection next year. Eli to ev An Ingram, It's been so long since Eli got drafted that I don't even think of him as an old Miss player anymore. He's just Eli, Like, I don't even think about it. Well, they are such a big old Miss and Giants, Well that's going out, loves Old Miss. The last time Eli man played Lsu as an Old Miss quarterback, he tripped over his center and

there you go. Failed on fourth down. See yea, Raiders have two minutes left on the clock at twenty four seeds. I'm trying to figure out how they're gonna play. Ingram's not a wide tight end, He's Yeah, he's a flex guy. He's a slot receiver. So are you going to are you Sterling Shepard and Brandon Marshall are going to alternate, you know, the wide receiver, Yeah, the wide receiver. Two. I just I'm interested to see how they're going to use him. Flex him in the backfield maybe and right

use him that way. Eager to claim is a move guy, right, he's trying to be a mismatched player. Move him around. Just let him. He's used to playing on the move anyway. Oakland, does Reggie McKenzie ever think that Ruben Foster would be here? No, I'll tell you what. If you look at Oakland inside linebacker, they need a three down linebacker. They do pison. You think Raiders fans want to take another headcase Alabama linebacker. I don't know. The last one didn't work out so great. Rolando,

that's the one I was. He was one of like over the last decade. I thought he was can't miss. I thought he was going to be a beast. He was for like eight weeks in Dallas. Yeah. Here the needs picks in for the Raiders commissioner not yet walk into the podium. I'll tell you their needs inside linebacker, running back, cornerback, those tackle, defensive tackle, and wide receiver. Got your corner You got eat corner backs in mind. I mean we taught me, okay, inside linebacker. We talked

about Foster. This is a popular landing spot for Kevin King. I know. Yeah, they need they do need help at corner. I mean Sean Smith is getting up there. He has not been lived up to his free agent contract, right Amerson is He's a guy. I mean, you lived with him as a starter, but you there's room to upgrade there. I mean, okay, let's look at the top corners here. Yeah, I think that, you know, I could say we talked about Foster for the inside linebacker, for Davis White, Gary Cook, Cooks.

If they need a running back, we talked about Coop, but they've got Marshawn Lynch. Now I think they're gonna go that. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna go that route myself. Cornerback? Who are your best cornerbacks on the boards? White? Gary on Conley, which is just a loaded situation obviously, Fabian Moreau, a Woozier, Kevin King. Who's the best out of that group? I mean, yeah, it's got to be Connley doesn't. Yeah, well yeah, but you're not gonna draft

him first guaranteed contract? Yeah, dicey for me, I wouldn't do it. I'm so glad. I'm other needs there as well. We talked about the nose tackle defensive tackle. Is Trey White a possibility here? Is that too soon? I mean it's too soon for y'all. But if you rank, if you rank them, though, Conley's better than White, am I right about that day. I think everybody have wait ahead of yeah, white, ahead of too. Yeah. But I do think that the NFL is like kind of like a

Dory Jackson. They like Conley more than we do. But again, I look, can you draft a player in the first round who is the subject of a rape investigation? The issue is we don't know what NFL teams know. Some teams might be comfortable with it, some teams might not. But say, what if if mister Davis was alive? Well, I think they would pick Conley? Yeah, just win baby, Yeah, no serious selections in hope comes a commissioners mister Davis is alive. Yeah, yeah, let's see this ought to be interesting.

We're the twenty fourth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. The Oakland Raiders select Gary Conley. Wow, people back, Wow, that got everybody. That got everybody eyebrows all went up on that one. If you look at everybody, the blinking guy Gift, Yeah, this is the this is blinking guy Gift right here. All I gotta say is they bet they better know more than we know. I mean, you just you cannot take a player who's the subject of a rape investigation. In the first round unless you feel

very strongly I don't care. I mean you you, I mean you better have a strong feeling. You better have more evidence than is what's been reported. Hey, here we go. And according to rap before he took a polygraph test tonight for the Raider tonight, the night of the draft, an hour before they draft them. That doesn't mean anything to me. I don't so what you passed a polygraph like that is set Like, aren't polygraph I'm not a lawyer, but aren't polygraphs like not even always invisible? And really

get the hell out of here in order. Yeah, I watched SVU all weekend last year, last week. I mean, listen, you to take him here, you better be comfortable that there's not an issue because not, I mean, yeah, forget the PR backlash, sure, forget that you're just wasted a first round pick. If the is turns out he is, he's guilty or more involved and this is going to stretch on. But you know, listen, Gary on Conley is

a player. He's a heck of a player. He is, He's a good player, and there were no character issues and I think that's a big thing that's playing in in his favor. If this was say Joe Mixon, he's not getting drafted. Yeah, because there's a pattern with Gary on Conley. There's no pattern here. This is a player who you talked to a HIU State coaches. They rave about him about the personality is the player that he is.

And I think that plays a big part in this two thoughts one, even if we don't agree with it, that is very Oakland Raiders pick. Oh sure it is too. That's why I said what I said about mister Davis. All Right, forget the Raiders. The war room cam is back on the wall, which what's going on? What's going on? The Ford Center war room cam is a shut off. Cleveland's on the clock. This is a pick they obtained

from the trade with the Houston Texans. That the Texans went up to the twelfth uh to twelfth overall pick and they selected uh, Deshaun Watson. And so let's see what in fact? Uh like, I say, what the what direction they might go? Dane that ye're my you're my Cleveland Brown resident. Tell me about the GPO to wound, Dan, tell me what they're gonna do? Yeah, you got you got your defensive ends taken care of. Yeah, it's you got you got quarterback, safety, a corner back, uh, and

tight end. Could this be Miami? Could this be? I mean, could this be the Miami guy to tight end? I mean I think they're that'd be fun. They want an impact player. Uh, and they trade it away from Millie Cooker. Okay, they picked up a first they picked up a first round pick. Uh to trade back away from a player like Millie Cooker. Ruined Foster is still available. I mean there's some talented corners Tradevius White, Kevin King. I don't know what do we think here? I the Browns, they

could go anywhere they have still over the roster. I mean, I really don't feel comfortable with any of these guesses. Yeah, I would think that they've got to be looking at these cornerbacks though there's no way this is a quarterback. Is there no cornerback? But I'm saying, is there anyway that this is a quarterback? Like a guy who throws the ball. I don't know, Kaiser, I don't think they do it. Um, I don't think they liked Kaiser. What safeties you have left? I mean, because that was I'm

just looking at your knee chart. For Cleveland. You've got quarterback free or strong safety. They need both, they need both. Who who do you got left? Do you have anybody in mind? Who to Baker Peppers? There's the top two. Who do you like of those two? Baker? Um? I like Peppers, don't love them. Yeah, but look, I mean I kind of I mentioned it before. They had a chance at Mollie Cooker and they traded away from him,

but from him. Yeah, Stephen and Jerry Jones very active on their work of the phones right now from the Ford Center were room. Yeah, so yeah, let's see that. Yeah, they're they're passing that phone around. So Charlotte wants to get on the phone. Yeah, she wants to jump in there. Okay, put me on the call. I mean there, Oh, she's hanging it up there. There's no panic with them. How could you be panicking? I mean look at all, Like, okay,

you got the wild card and Foster. But then going back to the these are the guys who they brought in who are still there. Taco, I'm sorry he was on the list though, Yeah, Taco, uh t J Watt, Malik McDowell, Kevin King, Chittabay Tack McKinley. Yeah, I just I just read off like five or six names, and I mean there's only there's only two more teams to pick. Yeah, so mathematically somebody they like has to be there. It's just a matter of which one, Yeah, or does anybody

want to trade up? Yeah. See they're they're they're talking about it. Looks like in war room cam right now, they're talking about the possibility of going back or just standing there and taking a guy. Jerry's got his thinking face on. Yeah, Steven's trying to convince him to if I've seen this look before, He's trying to pick the number of players on the board and get the number to see if they trade it back to a certain spot.

You know, I say this every year, but it's I just wish they I just want to sit in there. I won't report it, I won't record it. I just want to hear him. I just want to hear what it's like. Yeah, Stephen now working the phone and uh, you know, trying to figure out he's looking. He's flipping his trade sheets back, so that's where he's someone's trying to offer him some picks to see if he will be meant to see how many times he flipped that sheet because he can count first round, second round, third

round sheet. So that's what he's working off right now. His sheets, the actual draft sheets that you write your picks down on. So he's checking to see what somebody's got as far as surplus and hanging up the phone right there, So picks in for the Browns. We've kind of talked about it a little bit. Kind we kind of got sidetracked there. That's fine. Did get it sidetracked again? Quarterback,

free safety, strong safety. We felt like that was probably a need right there, Dane, you said either one, right, Well, I mean I like Buddha Baker better, but I have them closer closely rated with Peppers, so you wonder what Peppers with that deluded sample, Yeah, how that would affect his drafts? Sure, I mean you get it's similar to Dorry Jackson. You love the talent, he just you kind of worry about is he a better athlete than football player?

Right at this point? And with Peppers it goes even further and you don't know what position he's gonna play. Is he a true strong do you have to play him as a hybrid. It's interesting because again I go back to it. They traded it away from Lee Cooker. And you know it's if they take a safety here, we're gonna be watching. Did the two careers in the safety here? Especially a kid from I mean, I don't

know where Peppers. Peppers is not an Ohio in New Jersey? Gay, Yeah, here, you traded from Ohio away from Ohio state player at the Yeah, the school up north. Yeah. Oh, Browns fans are gonna hate that. No, they don't want to root for Jabral Peppers. See look at Dan, Look at Danny. He's like, no, they won't. No, they won't. Yeah, well, Jersey sales won't be well the selections in see what we got. Let's see if the commissioner makes here, you guys,

the commissioners now stroll into the podium. Here we go. With the twenty fifth pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jabral Peppers back to back. Interesting, I mean I had a Buddha Baker Jabral Peppers. Yeah, they're stacked on my board U thirty three and thirty four overall. Look, Peppers is an elite athlete. Uh, you know, he's five eleven two fifteen legit four four athlete. Um man, he what is he gonna play? Is he

as true strong? Is he a hybrid player? Yeah? How are you going to use him? You have to have a plan before you draft Peppers. Um, I'm interested to see how they use him in that. But if you look at the Browns what they just did on defense with Miles Garrett and now Peppers, Right, they just got better up up front and in the back half of the field. It's a lot of speed. But you said it, they traded away from Hooker. That's something that will always

you know, when they trapped. Absolutely, And look, this is a regime that they all about numbers. It mattered. The numbers matter. Now we talk about production. The numbers aren't great for Peppers. Right, one career interception in his final college game, I believe. Yeah. Well second, well, yeah, we didn't play the game very good, right, and it was on a tipped pass that I think all three of us would have made. But uh, Dane wants to spit

right now, No, I don't. I just providing context. So it's you're being honest, Yeah, exactly, I just it is what it is. But you're talking about guys that really impressed the combine. Yeah, I mean you're talking about athletes and what if we see I mean really, And that's why I'm surprised Najoku is still available right um, But that's why we saw Dorry Jackson going the top twenty. So it's interesting. I reserve judgment until we see how they use them, because that's what I'm most eager to see.

How how Peppers is used. Is he just order from day one for them? But because they need it, they need a lot of safety hip well, Jabil Peppers very It's saying a polarizing players because you look at the situation with with him, you know there was there's you getting arguments with people and in the draft about where you know Jabril Peppers would go? Should he be a guy? If you know Dallas would take him at twenty eight? I think. So it's another player that Cowboys would not

have drafted. The Cowboys would not have drafted him. But I'm glad he went before they came up on the clock so I didn't have to hear it from Cowboy fans. There you go. What if we talked about this whole time, about the trade back option? Yeah, how many offensive line we have three offensive linements still here. Yeah, and you have the best the best tackle still on the board, according to Dane and I with Ram Chick. If they mean Seattle's on the clock. Now, if Seattle didn't take

Ram check, pretty good bet an linement goes here. Yeah, yeah, if they take you know, King, Kevin King has been a guy that had been mocked to Seattle. If he all of a sudden, Ram Chick ends up in Seattle. Okay, now Kevin King us in play well for the Cowboy. And now I'm glad you said that, because now I'm getting to a point. You know, when you pick twenty eight, you try to convince yourself that these guys you love aren't going to be around. But it's starting to look

like some of these. I mean, I would love to draft Kevin King, I Tack, I would I would be big time. I'm on board with. So if you're gonna trade back, you're probably gonna trade away from a guy that you feel pretty good about, which you know, ideally you don't want to be in that situation, but I guess we'll see. Yeah. I mean, that's ah. They're they're sitting there very calmly, and it doesn't like the phones are ring. I mean they fielded some early calls. It

didn't like they were making any calls. You think this team would draft Foster? I can't. Where would you play him exactly? That's the thing. I mean, Sean Lees finally looks comfortable playing Will's where he's not getting hurt. That's Ruben Foster's best position, Yeah, is the will. Yeah. I don't see it at all. Yeah, and maybe I don't. And based on how far he's fallen, I don't think anybody's trading up to get him. But the Raiders not

wanting to draft another Alabama linebacker problem. Yeah, similar situation with the Cowboy they draft Nice tried Nick Saban. They walked us into it once, wasn't it you? Mister Brian brought us told me Atlanta. I was trying to get up. Yeah, here's Atlanta. Oh well, maybe the Cowboys opportunity. Tommy Dimitrovy, this is my this is my be King. This might be Kevin King right here. They're pretty good at corner though. They were talking or they're maybe getting ahead of Dallas.

They've also talked about what what was a guy? I think this is a pass rusher like you said that, not what what I think? I would guess this is a pass rusher before I think it's a cornerback. I mean, they've got Desmond Truffon. They who's the other who's the Alfred is the kid that had to pick six? Yeah, so I mean, I I don't know Atlantis got the pick. Let's see it. They're getting in front of They're getting in front of Dallas and they're and why would I

think this? I mean, I don't know. Tommy d buddy, Tommy Dimitroff, best mare in the National Football Yeah, let's see. I think it's a pass rusher. I I don't know, We'll see it might be, it might be let's see. If I don't know, I mean, I'm trying to think of exactly, uh that we talked about. I do know that that they were talking about going up because the situation, they don't have a lot of pick and they felt like that they needed to go get a Okay, here

comes Rod Marinelli. Rod Marinelli in the room, So that's gonna be get me a rushman. Yeah. They're trying to figure out which guy, which one of those defensive defensive players that they want. He's Okay with that, Kent, Kent, can you give me a Marinelli real quick? Oh they're shaking hand. Yeah, we got on the board solid. Okay, it's gonna be a defensive player, clearly. Okay, the Falcon select did you see the did you see the half high five half fIF fist pumped that Stephen Jones and

Marinelli just executed. Yeah, let's see a commission. Here we go. Commissioners on the podium. Commissioners on the podium. No, okay, had to get ahead of Dallas. They knew, they knew they had to do that. Tack McKinley off the board for the Let's see the reaction in the war room right there. They all they they just kind of they were all there. Charlotte looks the most distraught right now.

Pretty cool attack. He's a large picture of that as a grandmother, I believe looks like his yeah family, some type of family. His grandmother raised him. Yeah. Um, so he doesn't have a very he doesn't have a relationship with his parents. His grandmother basically raised him. Uh, and it looks like he's he's got the picture with him all over. Yeah, pretty cool. They talked to him before the draft and he was talking about, you know, his upbringing and how you know, grateful he has just to

have gotten to this point. It's pretty cool. And his aunt and uncle came in with him. So I mean disappointing because this is a guy the Cowboys really liked, and yeah, y'all you know we liked. But hard to feel bad for the guy going to a contender. He's he's gonna be playing with Vic Beasley, so he's gonna have an opportunity to make plays. I mean, just objectively removing the Cowboys from the equation. That's exciting for him. He's a very careful with that handshake. That's older. Still

a little tender. Yeah, shoulder is a little tender there. Okay, So Dallas loses a player right there, Tack McKinley. Atlanta jumps in up front and it is able to grab him at twenty six. I haven't seen the trade yet from Seattle, what they were offered. It means Buffalo is on the clock. This is a pick that they got from Kansas City. So silver lining if you're looking for it. And I mean, again, for the millionth time, drafts are

about multiple years, not one season. But it's at least a little bit of a relief for me to think that the guy the Cowboys pick is likely going to be healthy. Yeah, I you know, I mean we're here, and you know, maybe McKinley's not ready until October healthy. I'm just saying I want a guy who can play Dane. I've been saying that. I get it. Uh, And it'll be interesting to see which way they go because Kevin King, Malik McDowell. Yeah, I mean, and I'm sorry, pour through

some notes here. I mean, they could oh a lot of different ways here, Yeah, they sure could, but all ways that they like. Yeah, so I think I think that's uh my guy Tias Bowser is still hanging around. Yeah, let's see Bowser. Yeah. Yeah, the picks in for Buffalo Buffalo. They drove boys, guys hackets fired up. Yeah, yeah, goddamn. Oh whoa hey, hey, that is not appropriate for TV tech. You need to learn your list. What's wrong here? Here's

some people high fiving Rod Marinelli. Yeah, cowboys high from high fighting, shaking hands. So it looks like the Cowboys are gonna gonna keep this pick. And with Rod Marinelli's shaking hands with everybody, let's see who In fact, they're gonna get uh their guy. Let's see who that would be again. They haven't haven't made a call yet. Over on the side, there's oh, here's the phone, Jerry joneses

going phone, Jerry Jones going on the phone. And so I'm gonna go back and watch this whenever we're off the air, because this is awesome. And to that point, Tack at the combine was far and away the best interview in terms of just like an engaging, interesting guy to talk to. Yeah, well, let's see the cowboys again. Handshakes all around in the war room. Uh so, uh, here we go. Let's see if, in fact that we can figure out who they are going to take here.

And you know, we we've thought about. We've got defensive ends. Lionel Vitel has fired the hell up. Yeah, he's fired up about it as well. Who we got it? Who we got here? Boys? Do you guys your defensive ends? Dane? Who do you like is your defensive ends? T J Watt Uh, Taco Charleston's still out there. I don't know. I mean, I think that's it for the pass rushers, right, yeah,

Pays Bowser he's still there. I think he's a candidate this right m And then if it's not a corner, then you know top corners for Davious White, Kevin King. So there's a five namely Milike mcnell. So I think those six names right there, Yeah, I mean we are we missing someone? Those seems like it would be one of those six. Yeah, I think that. I think that you're definitely looking at some type of a defensive the defensive placing Garrett Sam Yeah. Really it's then here Rod

Miranelli now jumping on the phone. Good and good to work, solid to pay. Yeah, here's a need you to need you to rush the passer. So we we've we talked about this. It could be like I say, we got Charlton, Uh, we've got the again the corner King is still on the board. But uh with Marinelli, I have a feeling he got his guy. I have a feeling they got their guy that them up. I mean, he's the he's the de coordinator. But wouldn't wouldn't Joe Baker or Greg

Jackson be in the room if this was a dB. Yeah, that makes that makes a lot of sense right there. Absolutely this is a rushman. Yeah, so we're looking at Taco Charleston or TJ. What, Yeah, pick which one do you like better? Or that it might give me what But yeah, no love for McDowell. We're not throwing him

in there. I don't know. I mean, I I just feel like though that again this is it could be and you know, I mean I'm just looking at my board as far as those guys as the you know what makes a lot of sense, as you said, but maybe it's a situation where again they don't feel like that he is a that he is a true defensive end. And maybe they feel that way. Yeah, maybe they feel that way with U with the uh uh, with their

with their rush the way it is. I mean, you know, I kind of feel like that he is a left right defensive end. I mean, he's a guy don't see making a lot of wild plays. If that's in fact the guy and I think we've all you know him, you know or what you know, which one of the guy with the corner king. I'm just you know, it's just I don't know. I mean, I I'm kind of uh, kind of a little bit of trying to trying to gauge to me, like I say, if it if it was if it was a defensive back. I think we

would see I think we would. I reserve the right to be wrong, but I'm it's a pass rusher. I'm telling you. I agree. Yeah, I think you guys are kind of you're reading it right, Um, yeah, I think that's I think it's Uh. I just I can say if if I think Joe Baker and those guys would be in there with Marinelli in there, I think that that you're we're looking at one of these. I think

I think that, uh. I think that that's where I would I would go with in saying it's going to be one of these, you know, like I say, the defensive ends that we talk about, McDowell, Charlton, one of those guys. Uh. You know, Well we'll see so uh you know, but again we're still waiting on they have it. The the buffalo pick is in uh and we're still

waiting on that. Uh. So we'll see in fact, but with all the handshakes, they clearly have got their their guy, and the TV's just looks like it's behind the situation right here. But it feels like this happens like every year, but it usually happens towards the back end, like the picks start coming faster than the TV can keep up with. They did a pretty good job down the beginning of

the stretch, but yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, well it's uh, we'll see if the commissioner yeah and like say, this will be the you know, when the Cowboys do go on the clock officially, it'll be brought to you by Hublow the watch company. Uh they are they our official sponsor for every time that the Cowboys

going the clock. So we thank you very much for that. So, uh, let's see if in fact, uh, the uh, the the Browns, the Browns is traded back into the first Yeah, the Browns just traded, yeah, back in So we've hypothesized for all of these days and weeks that maybe the Cowboys trade back and it happens in front of them and behind them. Yeah, that's fascinast due. Yeah, so uh you know, we will we will as soon as the Cowboys officially get on the clock again. It looks like the pick

that has been made it get TV's behind. We just don't want to. We're speculating about uh, possibly of defensive ends, you know, and a lot of talking going on here trying to get the uh, you know the all that situated with the with the network. But just watching war room cam if you are at home, you see the Cowboys again, handshakes all around. Their pick has been in just now a matter of TV catching up. But here it goes. It looks like we're going to get the

commissioner walking to the podium here. Once in my life I want to see a draft room that's just kind of like, I guess this guy's okay, Like it's all you know, kind of like we are. Every draft pick is just like the Bill's best second. Here we go the Buffalo Bills. We're the twenty seventh pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. The Buffalo Bills select White. Okay, defensive back. All right, so Tredavious White, yeah, player we all liked. Uh he goes to the Buffalo Bills and

so that takes a cornerback out of play. But again I feel like though that with Rod Marinella, I didn't see any of the secondary coach now rolling in there. So that's kind of where Uh, that's where I think we're gonna get this defensive defensive end either Taco Charlton, Uh would be a possibility. T j. Watt would also be a possibly there Bowser. We talked about him as well. Uh, you know, all of them, all of them visits, all

of them were were thirty visits for the Cowboys. Future Cowboys quarterback John Stephen Jones hanging out in the war room too, So I got the whole family in there. Yeah, so let's see, let's see what what happens here again, Buffalo they're gonna do there, just you know, talk about again as exciting. Okay, let me ask you this, does Taco Charlton, if he in fact is the pick, does does he excite you? Is that? Is that a guy

that uh? Is that that type of guy that you thought could be an edge rusher, right edge rusher, left edge rusher. I'm gonna let you film geeks deal with all that crap. I just feel vindicated that the Cowboys in that circumstance would agree with me. Is that just get me a guy, Get me a guy, like shut up about the right end and like can he be like, just get me a dude, Get me a freaking defensive end who can get in here? They get a dude? Yeah,

time will tell, Dane, time will tell. I guess if they drafted him if and we were talking about you know, like I say, would you rather have Kevin Kevin King or Taco Charlton here, That's what you gotta have to look at personally. Me personally, Kevin King has been my pet cat for about a month now. I like him a lot. Yeah, I would probably have drafted Kevin King.

But over the last five days, I would say, not even a whole week, but just really since this week started, I just kind of had this sneaking suspicion that they wanted to get a pass rusher in the first round. I felt like that was paramount to them. I mocked Tias Bowser to them in the first round to day you're thinking defensive end all the way. I don't even like Tias Bowser, but I just thought that that's what they wanted. They want a guy who can get the quarterback.

That's why they got knocked out of the playoffs the last two times they've been there. Like Tacos, I love tacos. Yeah, and all about the taco huh personally And like I said, okay, again, only time will tell, But I think Taco Charlton can come right in and be a viable member of the rotation, I would play him on the left side of the line. I would let to Marcus Lawrence and Benson Mayowa play on the right side. So then you probably have Taco and David Irving playing on the left side, with David

Irving occasionally playing defensive tackle. Does any of this sound appealing to you? Well, hey, it picks in here for the Cowboys. So is any of this sound appealing to you at all? What I just said, No, I'm listening. It works for me. And on top of that, you think down the line, DeMarcus Lawrence is in a contract here, right, you gotta worry about that. David Irving is on a tender, so he doesn't have a long term future here. This

guy five years of a pass rusher. At the very worst, he's a left end who can just do his job and be a guy. And that's not bad at twenty eight. And that's what you're talking about, Dane, Right, this guy's got the similarities of and at the very best, how good could he be once Rob Marinelli gets his hands on him for a couple The best compliment that I can give Taco Charlton is he reminds me a lot of Justin Tuck. Justin when I watched him at Notre Dame,

that's a fantastic comparison, that exactly. And that's the best compliment you give now Justin Tuck follow the third round because he had an ACL and all that, but uh, he really took his game to the next level when he got to the NFL. Um and so it's up to Taco Charleton to do the same because really Charlton was a one year starter basically, as he was kind

of lost on that depth chart three. You know, there were a three fourth scheme under under excuse me, Dane at the podium, Wait, twenty eighth pick in the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select Tacto Charlton. I think we confirmed our suspicions there. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, look, I think they're better players on the board and and that's fine, but I think I think they got a good player. Um, it's up to talk of Charles and take his game to next level. Next levee. Now is that?

Like I said, he is a one year starter in the flashes are intriguing. You're talking about a big guy. He's almost six six two hundred and eighty pounds. Uh, you know, not that quick twitch speed guy around the edge. But you factor in his length, you factor in once those long legs start going those big, strong strides, he can be a pass rush threat. He's just he's still figuring things out. Yeah, I like him. I'm not sure that he's going to pay immediate dividends in year one.

You know, he's not going to be a double digit sack guy. Yeah, Cowboys fish not expect that. They're picking twenty eighth. They're not gonna get a double digit sa guy. Expectations And and that's fair ky like I was doing last year with Bosa here and well landon. If you're listening, if you haven't like left to go jump off a bridge, and anybody else that's out here that's upset about this pick. Maybe he's not great right now, Maybe he's he's can

he can he contribute? Can he contribute right away? Is he gonna be a game day inactive? No? No, right, he's ready to go right away. Maybe he's your Jack Crawford. That's an argument that I got into today is maybe he's not any better than Jack Crawford. That's fine, and it's not great, but again, you're picking twenty eighth. That's the type of guy you get at twenty eight, right, And and for what you just said, he reminds you of Justin Tuck. Yeah, um what, He's a one year starter.

He's still growing into what he can do, so there is every reason to hope that he can blossom into a much better player, especially working under a guy like Rob Marinelli. I feel like we lean too much on Rod Marinelli sometimes, just in what he can do and what he can develop, Like at some point it's on

the player. But I just I and I don't. I'm not doing backflips over this pick, but this whole spring, I just I just feel like Taco has been in this echo chamber where everybody's convinced he can never be good, whereas I just think this is a side solid pick that could put it this way, it's not going to come back to bite you in the ass. I don't think. At the very least, Yeah, at the very least he'll be an okay player. Solid pick is probably the best

way to put it. At the very least, he'll be okay, and there's at least a chance he'll become something better than that I think each of us would have taken someone else. That doesn't mean it's a bad piss rue. It does not mean that's totally fair. I would have taken somebody else, Yeah, I think Kevin King. Yeah. But I'm not gonna sit here and throw up because I'm so upset that Taco Charlton's It is not a bad pick. I mean, like I said, I think all of us

would have taken someone else. That does not mean this is a bad pick. He's a player that was right there late, first, early second. For me, it's not like this is bad value. I like it. I prefer t J. Watt is a pass rusher, but Taco Charlton is not a bad player, and you get excited about what he can be. Like I said, a one year starter, a guy that once he was in that fourth three scheme that they went to this past year and had a chance to be a full time starter. He was close

to double digit sacks. I mean, there's there's a lot of potential here. So it's if Taco could reach that that great Would you say that he has a and I mean we're not comparing him to a guy taking in the top ten, but for where you're taking him, does he have a pretty high floor in terms of he's you know, he's not gonna be noticeably worse than you already think he is. I guess, yeah, I mean,

I guess that's fair. I just I think of I just I think of him as a guy who can come in and be one of the four main defensive ends in this defense right away. Right He's just not gonna wow you that. I mean, that's kind of been my my thought with him the whole time. And again I'm askin, has DeMarcus Lawrence wowed you? No? See, That's what I'm saying, though, that's the type of player you're drafting. Yeah, and that, but it sucks, but that's what that's what

you get. At twenty eight I was thinking though, maybe that if you look at the see that's why I would have taken King. I I you know, and I had both players in the second round, but I think that maybe I would have taken King here because I saw a guy that was really it was always close, but never really finished. You know that he the motors great, the efforts great. Give me the guy that's gonna finish.

That's what I want, you know, And we're you know, we're you know, right there, and we're watching some highlights. Though able to get around the edge right there a couple of times were showing. But I just did not see a guy that consistently. That's what I was really really he wasn't. Yeah, and he's very he's still very raw. I mean he had only forty three tackles. And that matches the tape because he would often read the run wrong right, he'd guess a lot. There's still so much

he has to learn. And that's that's okay. I mean that's again, like to your point, picking twenty eighth in the first round, these are the types of players you're going to get there. Far from perfect. He has a long way to go, but he's going to be part of the rotation as a rookie, and you feel better about your odds of getting a dB you really like at sixty than a pass rusher. Yeah, I mean we

said that all along. Yeah, of course, and and and that's just then the Browns is on the I sounded like I'm I'm I'm not meaning to like be condescending because obviously y'all know more about this than I do. But Browns are up, Dave, excuse me, I's trying to talk Cowboys. Brian d the All right, I'm sorry, Dave now finished. No, No, you're good Cleveland Browns. That was

a that was a pick. I like that pick a lot that they got from the Green Bay Packers, and they drafted A David and Joku the tight ends from id me. Okay, Dave, I'm sorry, go ahead and finish your thought. It's an awesome player for Cody Kessler to check down to next season. Look, look the Cody Kesler's your quarterback and that's he's an intermediate style quarterback. So given another tight end to work with. Look what the Browns have done in terms of athleticism Miles Garrett, Jabrol Peppers,

David and Joku. Right, I mean you talked about three big time athletes. I mean, it's really impressed with the Browns have done. Now, they gave up thirty three, and they gave up one a week. The first pick in the next two days. Teddy Thompson to get back to to our pick because this is and what great bay With the first pick tomorrow they're gonna get T. J. Watt. Yeah, well we'll see who got some teams on the board, Pittsburgh still on the board. I'm just I'm just saying, great,

they they know what they're doing. But let's okay. But but seriously, though, and for perspective's sake, that's the Okay, maybe you don't like the player, but they addressed that saying we don't like the player. But okay, even if you don't, even if you're whatever, whatever your opinions about the player are. They addressed the pass rush. They did. That's that was his goal number. And like I said, it seemed like the writing was on the wall that

they knew they had to do that. There. Whatever you might think about Taco Charlton, he's better than the guy they were gonna get tomorrow night. He's better. He's gonna he's gonna make a bigger impact than Mindy Gregory this year. Your hell, you're damn right about that, Dane Brugler on So I look at that, I think about how deep the draft is at defensive back. I think about the fact that, again Stephen Jones said on Monday as well, is the pass rush here fantastic? No, But they finished

in the top half of the league. They've got guys that they feel good about you add a at least decent to solid player who can contribute to that right away at the back end of the first round, and he has the potential to grow into something better later in his career. And unlike DeMarcus Lawrence, who you gave up picks to get, I mean, this guy just fell to you at twenty. You just stood there's a solid player. Yeah's gay And again, I I've said about the wild part,

but you know, I just like to see. I'm going to be interested to see if he is able to finish with some consistency. That's what I want to see. I'm not talking about rush up the field, get pushed past the quarterback, rush up the field, used to spin, move, get blocked, rush up the field, get stoned at the line of scrimmage. You know, I know the guy could play. I mean, I just if you're thinking about him, know, being that guy that right in Rusher, I don't think

this is that guy. I don't think he is either. I've been He's not. He's not that guy. But my point, and that's left end Justin Tuck. I mean, I mean, I like that comparison. I think Justin Tucks the hell of a football player. And this you can go back to January or February and find us having this argument on this show, which is that at twenty eight, just give me the solid left end over the guy who might be a good right How do you feel about left and right end? I hate it. Just give me

a player that in twenty fourteen. In twenty fourteen, we had these same arguments and they gave up a third round pick because DeMarcus Lawrence was that he's the last rite end in this draft. That's the guy. It has to be him or it'll be No. One. And his most successful season to date came at left end. So I don't want to hear it another trade, by the way, Just get me a player. The picks in forty nine ers traded up. Okay, first, I wonder if that's for

a quarter back? Why did why did all these people want to do business with everyone else but not the cowbo like look at the Cowboys fielded a couple of calls. Yeah, but you couldn't get out of Maybe they're asking for too much. Picks in for Pittsburgh one give an idea the last three picks. Of course, Dallas at twenty eight takes takes Taco Charlton. Uh. Cleveland trades with Green Bay and get and takes David and Joku the tight end from Miami. This means that Pittsburgh is on the clock.

Or actually, excive me, the picks in for Pittsburgh. So let's see who what direction uh they go to? This is a pick Atlanta, uh uh Pittsburgh. After that, it sounds like the trade. Dan, you say, it's San Francisco. So San Francisco, San Francisco pick, it's the thirty one. Yeah, so it's Atlanta to sit to Seattle, now to San Francisco. So after we get the Pittsburgh pick, then that puts sanfords Cisco on the clock. And let's see what direction

they happened to go. It go to Ruben Foster has to go at some point, right, yeah, Okay, there's a steward selection. Go ahead. Two weeks ago, we lost one of the most beloved members of our NFL family, Ambassador Dan Rudy, A true Hall of Famer. Dan embodied everything that is special about this game. He was a great leader for the Pittsburgh community and a tireless advocate for the Steelers. But more than that, he was one of

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did us select T J. Watt, linebacker Wisconsin. T J Watt. That's where t J. Watt belongs to say, that's a great pick. Ghost stand up somewhere. Ye don't need to be here, t J Watt. So the uh? And I think that I think t J. Watt would have been a consideration here. But I think that that, you know, the Steelers listing him as an outside linebacker, that's what he is, you know. And I think the questions about, you know, maybe that he was a guy that would have been a good fit here. They thought he was

a right end, you know. I think it initially started that way, but I don't think it ended that way for t J. Watt. So uh, that's uh, He's gonna end up Pittsburgh. He's play outside linebackers, So good for the Steelers to get them a quality a guy, an outstanding technique player. You talk about effort, technique and all that. T J. Watt is one of the best and only really playing only really one year of college football as far as a defensive player. Am I right about that, Dane,

as far as in what he's done. So Pittsburgh Steelers grab him and we'll play him at the outside linebackers spot and it'll be part of that defense. Okay, San Francisco now owns the pick again. This is a pick that was Atlanta's, went to Seattle and now was traded for by the San Francisco forty nine ers. Let's talk about San Francisco a little bit. He schefter tweeted the trade and he said that they traded back in to get a player they considered at two and three. That

tells you who it is right there. Yeah, it's the linebacker. It's a linebacker. Yeah. This is gonna be Rubin Foster. Not to give it away, yeah, but I mean it to get a player you considered a two and three here. Yeah, quite quite the value. Yeah. Yeah. So this in reading the and and Dane I think has correctly read the tea leaves. There's no one else that's falling, right. Yeah, I'm gonna say, I mean, this is it. This is gonna be San Francisco went back in and you're absolutely right,

from from the chef to tweet. Uh, this this pick is gonna be Reuben Foster. It's got to be the falling player. I mean, that's the only reason why you would trade back in for a guy uh like that, that that type of ability. Uh. So San Francisco, just to give an idea, the team needs, uh, quarterback, cornerback, inside linebacker. We've talked about the defensive end. They drafted Solomon Thomas and then and then here's uh maybe a running back is also a need from them they wanted

They're looking for volume pass catchers. But I agree with Dane on this one. I think the inside linebacker this is gonna be a Reuben fall So that one had a worst pre draft process. Uh talk about about tease table. He's it's a pretty bad for him too. But I don't think he had a deluded sample. That's true. He didn't. And of the medical stuff, he didn't get in a fight either. Yeah, it wasn't sent home from the combine. Maybe he should have been sent home from the combine.

It would have worked out better for well, although he did run a four six at the combine and that turned out to be the best time for him instead of the Pro day. But yeah, with Foster, you know, with his issues are well known. There's a lot of medical stuff too, the deluded sample being sent home from the combine. Um, you know at this point he's worth the risk, right, I mean, yeah, absolutely, take a player like that in the top fifteen, you kind of you're

crossing your fingers. You're still crossing your fingers here, but you feel a lot better about the value this this late and the forty nine ers felt good that he wasn't going to be there at thirty four. So yeah, I think that to me, that the value of the player. Yeah, and we we've kind of talked about Alabama players tend to get a little bit beat up, you know, the medical part. I didn't you know, he's got the shoulder that he's dealing with. Yeah, but I don't see a

guy that you know it. Talking to some trainers about him, I didn't feel like that. They didn't feel like that he was overly taxed physically. And I'll to you what you watched this guy on tape? Holy smokes. Every time he hits somebody, it looks like it hurts. It looks like whoever he hits, it's violent. Yeah, he's just a violent player. He reminds me of yeah Rolando. Yeah, and not just in that, but like, I mean, Rolando's that way he hurts people out there. Man. Yeah, it's really impressive.

Just the stopping power, I mean, the you know, rarely do you see Rubin Foster make contact and he's moving backwards. Yeah, all almost one hundred percent of the time that ball carrier is either stopped dead to right. Here's the forty nine ers. Oh here it is forty nine. We just missed that Commissioner went to the podium gushing about him. Yeah, Ruben fob sorry about that day. I don't mean to cut you off. Oh no, it's Ruben Foster always, the fact that he has who we thought with the forty

nine ers selection. So that puts the Saints on the clock now at thirty two. So pick the gap from New Orleans. Actually from the New Orleans you have to pick from New England. I'm bombed that it's about to end. Like I'm not ready to stop. We got two more days. We got a couple more days. We absolutely do so. Ruben Foster, we talked all about him. Saints on the clock. They went Marshawn Lattimore at that took care of their

cornerback spot. That was the number two need so far, though other needs defensive end, quarterback, strong safety, and outsider inside linebacker. So we'll see what in fact the Saints. Do you have anybody on your board, Dane, that you really really really like that's left? Oh? Absolutely, I mean it's not a surprise. We're seeing Dalvin Cook fall out. Yeah, and you called that and I thought he was gonna get picked that. I think Dalvin Cook was expected. Ryan Ramcheck,

that really surprises me. Yeah. Forrest Lamp that's another one that surprises me. Malik McDowell. I know he's got his maturity issues, but still he's a top five talent, right, So a little surprise he's still around. Saints be in line for a tackle. I think the Saints could be in line for a tackle. Zach Street is he still playing? He's like fifty. Yeah. They took the your Stanford tackle in the first round a couple of years ago, but

they played him at guard. Yeah, he's a guard. Picks in for the Saints, Armstead, this is gonna end the round, uh for the night. I have a hard time thinking Sean Payton picks two defenders. That's just not something I think he's gonna. I like what you guys are saying that. I mean, lamp makes a lot of sense, you know, depend on where you want to play him. Ram Chick, I ram Chicks my number one tackle. Ram Chicks, my

number one tackle on the board. And I don't know, I don't know how he's lasted all the way to thirty two. Okay, well let's uh the pick is in for the Saints. But well we got some a secret audio that we got from the war room, Taco Trump, so can't go ahead. Hey Taco, this Jerry Jones with a Dallas cowboy. How are you doing with Joe? We just strafted you. Listen, you got a lot of support in this room. Congratulations, sir, yus, Sir Taco. Here's your

head coach, Jason Garrett. He's been in here rooting for you all afternoon. Okay, here he is, Taco. How you doing, coach? I'm doing great? Congratulations? Thank you? Are you ready to get going. Yes, sir, I can't wait. I can't wait. Definitely want let's sat down, coach. We're awfully excited to have you, and uh, A lot of it has to do with who you are. You got a lot of ability, but a lot of it has to do with who you are as a person. Get ready to go to work.

I'm okay, wait, I can't wait. So it's okay. Wait, Hey, congratulations, so excited for you. Thank you. I'm gonna hand the phone to Rod Marinelli. Okay, Taco, how you doing, coach? You're ready to roll with me? I'm ready? I'm ready. Oh yes, sir, I'm ready. Okay, you know what i'd get my cleats on right now? Start running here. Hey, hey, that's what it took. I'll tell you all do it. Okay, we're ready to roll now. I couldn't be more excited and had a great visit with you here. Now you

know what I want, right? I want another I want another level to whatever. I'm ready. I can't wait to get my hands on your big guy. I can't wait to be there, coach. Okay, congratulations, thank you. That's the secret audio from Taco Charlton the first round pick from the Dallas Cowboys, number twenty eight and uh we're joined now by Taco Taco. It's Brian brought us Dame Brugler David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. We we're really really excited to see you.

Happy to have you. Man. We listen to all the secret audio there and it appears that you and Coach Marinelli already have a really good relationship with each other. Yeah. Yeah, So in Dallas, you know, me and coach may Nelly really got a chance, uh sit down and talk with big cats. So you know, we got real close. And he know, he coached me up like he was I was already there, so he was getting after me. You know,

I enjoyed it. And you know he told me from day when about end up and down as he gonna push me to be the great player I want to be. Hey talk, and you know you just mentioned that working with with coach Marinelli and Leon Lett and this is a team that has needed help at pass rush, you know for several years now. Just what what exactly did they tell you? You know, we know that you came in here for a visit and what what exactly were those conversations, like, what what kind of plan do they

have in mind for you when you get here? I mean they loved my you know, they loved my film. We watched Field, they loved they seen uh, and they just felt like, you know what, you know, don't coach, don't coach me up. My potential just you know is you know, you really can't match it. So they felt like I was a great player, I could do some great things, and coach marine coach Marinelli just felt once he got his hands on me, you know, it was

it was it was a done deal from there. Talk of what I really liked about your career in Michigan was you got better every year. It seemed like you seem you took your game to the another level. What do you need to do now that you're in the NFL with the Cowboys. What do you need to improve on to take that next step as a rookie. I'm really just being consistent with everything. Uh, you know, I have great plays, great games, but just making sorts every

play every time. So um, it's definitely something you know, I can't wait to, you know, get challenging and get coached up to do. But you know, I'm a guy who worked hard. That's why, you know, got a chance to get better each year and improve my statues years just because of how hard I work, you know, in the film room, on a practice field, in the weight room. So um, you know, once I get Dallas, is not gonna stop. You know, I'm trying to be an impact player,

help this team win games. And you know they're already assessible team, but I'm trying to you know, up to that next get a chance to help them, you know, go to that next step. Socco. You you played for a tough coach there, Greg Madison defensive line. I mean he's working with you every day on technique and toughness

and all that. Talk about your experience though at Michigan and you know, and the big games that you've been able to playing you with coach Hardball there and and talk about though that how that's gonna help you come into the National Football League. Oh yeah, Coach Man he's an NFL coach, he has an NFL experience, he knows how to get done. And uh he's a guy like coach Man Nevin. You know, you gotta do it his way.

So um, I know I've already got that type of coaches, and I know how it is when to coach, it gets out to you, goes hard on you. So um, like I said, all that is not gonna be betting into me. Like I said, I just love it just because it pushed me to be the player I want to be. So I'm enjoy it. Soak it up, and like I said, take the coaches, and I try to prove my game each day. All right, taco one more and then we'll let you go. But I gotta give you a hard hitting one. I mean, you're you're moving

to Texas, so where do you go for tacos? I mean, we gotta know, man, when I all out every time when I came to Dallas or you know, came to Frisco, everybody kept bringing up how tacos are everywhere? You know, you can't you know, that's where you gotta go you want to taco. But I didn't get the chance to taste one when I was in Texas. So I can't wait to go back and see, really try who has the best tacos in Texas. Let's really you know, I think I could be a great judge of that. I

feel like you have endorsement opportunity. Yeah, you've got a future as an endorser. Hey, Taco, thank you so much, and again congratulations on being selected. And I know it's a special night for you. And we're looking forward to you working with you here at Dallas Cowboys dot com. And uh, we'll see you here in a couple of weeks. Okay, can't wait. You can't wait to be in Dallas. All right, thank you very much. Okay, Taco Charlton, I knew you

were gonna go with it. I know you're gonna go to the question the guy just got drafted him not, I mean, he deserves a softball. Just you gotta suggest fuzzies, Taco boy. No ya, maybe maybe we'll go with him. Maybe we'll hit those. I would go with the velvet Taco on Henderson and seventy five. There you go. Okay, Well, while we were talking to Taco Charlton there, uh that it was the the New Orleans Saints, as we said,

ended Ryan Ramcheck. Ryan Ramcheck, So ram Check ended the first round of the NFL Draft, the offensive tackle from Wisconsin the Saints. Really, you know, we talked about really not maybe a need, but best available player on the board at that particular time, Dane. Yeah, and we would you mentioned Dave about not going defense. Yeah, the two picks in the first round, and they did. Yeah. Yeah, you know, Drew Brees has one year left on the contract. He wants to play for another five years. Give him

more help up front. And at this point, Ran Ramcheck is an I was standing value. I thought he's the best tackle in this draft. U. It's interesting. I totally agree with you on that. Yeah, I know, I know you do use your top offensive Limen is absolutely, yeah, absolutely was thirty two picks in the books. My top five available after the first round now, Dalvin Cook, Forrest Lamp, Malik McDowell, broad US favorite, Zach Cunningham. Yeah, I loves

Zack Cunningham. Someone's gonna get a hell of a football player in the second round, Curtis Samuel, So I think from Cunningham because obviously we know how much you like him. Is there a surprising name in there? I mean, I think we Delvin Cook, I don't think too much of a surprise, but man, Forrest Lamp, those short arms maybe hurting him a little bit more than that. I you know what, I talked to some people Dane about Lamp,

and I know that were there were guys. I actually talked to a couple of different teams that were hopeful that he was going to be gone before they had a chance to pick. Yeah, and and and I mean that, and like, you know, we really I don't want to deal with that guy. I hope someone else does. I had a guy tell me, hey, I hope that a team in our division and they didn't not much respect for him. But like I said it, the short arms, you know, the fact that you know, uh, we'll see that.

Maybe maybe the fact that you don't know where exactly to play him. I know some teams talk about playing him at guard, some teams were talking about playing him at tackle. But I know that there were some people in the draft that were like, yeah, let somebody else be a hero there. But you know, he is a guy that's available. Uh you know, I personally, the way I had my board or the one oh five three board that we did, we had Dawkins, Freenye and Lamp.

That's how we that's how we saw the guards. So y, you know, but all in the second round, not not anything where he was massively down in the fourth or fifth round or anything at that. But I like your I like what you're saying. I think tomorrow if you look at some names too. You know, Samuel the running back from running back receiver from Ohio State would be a guy Desmond King, Buddha Baka, tanks Lee. These are all second round guys, Buddha Baka, but cutting him. I say,

these guys names funny all the time. But Cunningham, you know, McDowell cook. I think someone's gonna get some really good value there with those players. Those are my top five go six through ten. Six would be Kaiser seven, Buddha Baker eight, Chad Hanson. I liked him more than most. Yeah, no, no, I had Chad Hanson on the second round on my board, Carl Lawson and ten Terrell Basham. We're project we're projecting here. But how do you feel about sixty? Now, well, let's

look at the top corners. Yeah, that are going to be available going into round two. Uh, you've got Kevin King right, Yep, he's there, Yep, Fabian Moreau, yep. Woozier, Jordan Lewis teased Tabor, Uh so, I mean plenty of tankerously plenty of corner options. Wincy Wilson. Yeah, I mean I'm not We're not as big as fans, but no, but I'm just talking about just talking about it. Might it might get to a point where you get wiped

out a little bit there. Huh. But but my my four guys, I mean, it depends on where you played. Des King too. Desmond King is another one that you got. So you're looking at, you know, five quarters at least for me, with Tabor Moreau, Tankers, Lely King being uh, Kevin King and then Desmond King being a possibility there as well. So I must say it's and this sounds bad because I don't want to say a guys shouldn't

go first round. But Melifon will yeah, I thought you might go first round because of the measurables and the way he tested, But he just wasn't a first round player on tape. See that's that's exactly what it was, Dane. Let's let's not be let's not be uh fooling ourselves here. The numbers. He doesn't play like a four or four guy. He's a good football player, but he is not a

first round player. The measurables are first round but the but the tape does not have him as a first round player, so that that to me in itself, I feel like, you know, but there there's some that I think I think if you, if you ask me, where the strength Okay, where's the strength in the draft tomorrow for people? Is it gonna be wide receiver in the second round? Is it gonna be those defensive ends or is it gonna be some corners? I mean, we talk some safety, so we didn't. I mean we we got

Baker still on the board. Melifon, will you talk about Williams Woods. Just look at those corners that we just got done. Name him. There's five or six, but we can see come off the board in the top twelve to fifteen picture on day two. Yeah, so yeah, they could get wiped out pretty quickly at the corner spot. May okay, and maybe they do, which all right, I know that's the position they need. But I'm just I'm just looking at these names. I feel really good about

a good player being there though. Yeah, in terms of who all's who all sitting there? What all is happening? What positions haven't really had that run yet? I Mean, there's still offensive linemen there still some quarterbacks that are probably gonna go tomorrow early tomorrow. If I had to guess, yep, um, you got some running backs, I said, Samuel, But about Kamara was a guy. I mean, I mean, there's yeah,

Mixon Cook, but I still like that. I still like Mixon Cincinnati at forty one or at Minnesota at forty eight. Three four running backs that you like, Yeah tomorrow, Yeah. Three offensive tackles, Kaiser and Webb. Two quarterbacks. Somewhere, we're getting I'm trying to push players out. You're gonna put the players that way. You're You're absolutely right about that.

You're absolutely right. I don't know if it'll be a corner looking at it just now, though, I like the odds that are pretty damn good safeties there yet, get do you think they would consider Sidney Jones at sixty if they get wiped out, if they got wiped out, I would think so, I would think so. But that's a that's a that's a twenty eighteen, that is a

total twenty eighteen. Yeah, and and and even talking to some people about that, they're saying, listen, they might even they might even red shirt him because uh, just to protect him from himself, you know, don't let him push Yeah, just you know, let him have a whole entire year uh to uh to uh be uh healthy, to get healthy. So but they're they're very well. Might be a corner that they really liked there too, right, one that they can Uh we mocked, we mocked yesterday. We mocked him

a safety is what we did. Yeah, would you rather have a safety into a corner? Maybe rather at sixty? But that might be the reality. Yeah, you know, just depending on how the board plays out. I don't see any way Curtis Samuel makes it that to sixty. But if he does, damn you, Dane, because that's what I mocked today. I want that if he does. Yeah, I mean,

that's just becomes a serious consideration. I'll go back to this and I said this already, and somebody out there is mad because they don't like taco, and somebody is thrilled because they do. Right, I love. Let just don't worry about what's going to happen. But right now, as you sit here looking at your draft needs, you have

addressed the pass rush. I don't need. I mean, maybe they'll draft another one, but I don't feel that, Like remember when we did the mock yesterday and you just kind of had this like at ninety two, you're like, oh, we don't we were taking pass we don't love passing Yamba. We haven't drafted a pass rusher yet, so we better

do something. Well, we handled that problem, and I maybe we'll feel the same way about the cornerback is what you're saying, or the safety on what I'm saying is at of the three positions they really need to address, I think the hardest one to address was going to be pass rusher. I think, yeah, I think you can find your corner and your safety between sixty and one thirty three. Would you agree with that? I think yeah. I think so somebody you feel pretty good about, right, Yeah,

And I don't feel that way about pass rusher. I did not want to take passion, but we had to. Had to. Now you're not stuck in that situation. That's why we took that safety at sixty Yes, say, did you not feel good about Williams sixty or sixty five? We made the move back? Did and if if Josh Jones or Marcus Williams are there, I mean, I don't think Buddha Baker will be there. But if he is in one of those three safeties, Oh my gosh, Buddha Baker's there at sixty. I just said, Baker, what's up

with that? Could you knew I was gonna say. If Buddha Baker's there at sixty, I will run up to that war room. I'll do it and I'll get fired, but it'll be fine. Oh don't tell me funny. If we go to war room, Cam and Dave just gave just knocking icty over. What am I doing when you get in there? I'm draft Buddha Baker. You're just diving on the table. He's a playmaker. Take Jerry's hand. Okay, all right, guys, we're getting to the top of the

hour here. And by the way, I want to thank all the people that have bout out there then fallen along with us. Especially want to thank our folks that are overseas. I know that you guys hang up, hang out late. It's always not fair, but you love your football team so much and we appreciate everything you guys do for us. So thanks for everybody out there that's that's been with us for sure. What's our what's our

game plan tomorrow? And plan tomorrow is We're gonna be on the air at five forty five Central time tomorrow. The draft kicks off at six pm Central, uh seven o'clock Eastern. We have rounds two and three. The Green Bay Packers will lead off the draft tomorrow. These are the money rounds. Yeah, this this is the best part. There's gonna be. There's gonna be some lacious football players here. These are there's gonna be a lot of fun. My

man cutting hand. Watch he's gonna go to He's gonna go to a good team, the real, the real, the real money gets made absolute and when you help build your roster, keep yourself deaf and hey whatever, Okay, whenever you think about Taco, we got out of the first round with both of our Day two picks. Yeah I like that, sure did. And Tacco we'll see. I mean, I enjoyed a visit with him there and I look forward to He played for a tough guy there, Greg Madison.

I'm just I'm we'll see if Marinelli can can keep that going. I didn't know that this was going to happen, but now that he is a cowboy, I'm going to drive that bandwagon. I don't know if he's gonna be good. I can't predict the future, but I'm I'm in because everybody else is out and that he needs somebody on his side, and that's gonna be me. How sad are you gonna be when he comes here and he says I want to be known as Vedante? All right, well there go, all right, okay, whatever he wants, my guys,

he can be gotta go. We'll see you tomorrow at five forty five. Thanks to everybody out there, look forward to the Day two of the NFL Draft. Take care, come back, Chap, don't come back.