2016 Draft Day LIVE - Round 1

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here with you the next three days. We're going to carry you from pick one to pick two hundred and fifty three, so we look forward to having you on this journey with us. We're going to talk a lot about the Cowboys and what they're gonna do. We're gonna talk about the other teams as well. That's the whole idea of what we've ever done with the Draft Show, and we want to make sure that we give everybody

out there the opportunity. Again where Dallas Cowboys dot Com, folks, But we understand the importance of the NFL Draft, and we appreciate you not only hanging out with us, getting our products, just loving the draft. That's what we do, and we really do love the draft. I did it professionally for thirteen years. I miss a lot of this. I miss a lot of it about it. But this the Draft Show and doing these reports and stuff. These guys treat me like a scout and I appreciate that

because it keeps me in this game. And I'm really excited about what we're about to do and I'm excited to be doing it with you guys next three days. I feel like there's a lot of scorn out there for the draft and how much of a thing it has become, you know, But I love them, Yeah, us three and everybody back home and Kavanaugh and Kevin turn all all this enthusiasm and passion. It makes the offseason so much more enjoyable. And go so much faster. And

I mean this is where successful teams are built. Son, ignore or scoring the draft at your own risk, That's absolutely right. Good teams aren't going to do that. This is gonna be fun. You know how much have we been talking about these players, these prospects, and now we get to match them up with teams and talk about fit, talk about you know, how they will do at the next level in terms of just not necessarily speculation anymore, but actual you know where these guys are going to

play at the next level. And I can't wait. This is gonna be a fun night. I was gonna when you when you told me to hold my time my monologue, I was gonna ask Dane, when did you watch your first tape of a twenty sixteen prospect? Probably a week after the two fifteen draft, So Dane's working on about three hundred and sixty four days fifty one week. Sure

you Maybember first. The Monday after the Carolina lost. It's well documented that when Tony Romo was laying flat on the field there at at and T Stadium, made I sent I sent the bat signal up to Kat and Jeff and I said, meet me at the facility said boys, and you know what, to everybody's credit, everybody, you know, they might have been doing their radio jobs or whatever, but they looked up and they said, okay, we gotta get going here, and we and we have this is

five months and eleven months and three weeks in the banking is basically what I was trying to say. It's impressive and it's very exciting that we in what I mean probably thirty five forty minutes. Yes, we will very likely have a new Dallas Cowboy. Not to mention all the other intrigue that's coming our way. I could not be more excited. I can't either, and I agree with you all very much. Up, Okay, we have an idea, man.

Let me. I don't know about you guys, but one of the great things of the Twitter and all that stuff is that you can get information. You can get it. You could get a lot of it real fast. The problem is you can get information overload, you know, when you're trying to figure out we have an idea where the first two picks are gonna go. We have that it's gonna be the quarterbacks, whatever order. We think it's gonna be golf and Wentz are gonna be one two

San Diego. Let me applaud Tom Tolesco and those guys out there. They've done a nice job of making everybody feel like they could take anybody on that board. And I think if you hold that pick and you and you really and I don't think it's confusion. I think there's some people out there thinking they don't know what they're doing, they don't have an idea, but that you know what, if I was in their shoes, I would

have done the exact same thing. And I would and I yeah, and I'm I'm trying, like hell if I'm I'm trying to get people interested in my pick. You know, I'm trying to make you feel like that, hey, I could take an offensive tackle. I might not take the first offensive tackle. I might take the second offensive tackle. Then again, I might take a cornerback, a safety I

might take. You know, I think that is really well played on San Diego's part, because, to be honest with you, as I sit here right now, I want to believe that they're gonna take Buckner a defensive end. I really do it. Did mock drafts? How confident do you feel though you know what I don't. That's my problem. How you could, Yeah, I and I and I think that the cowboys and talking to some guys, you know, as we before we came on the air, they really don't

know either. And and and it's the job. And when I was in the sky department, it was my job to know who was going to be picked. That was my job. I took that as a sense of pride, a badge of honor. And I guarantee I'm talking to guys about it, and they're like, we just don't know. We just don't know if they're gonna stand in there and make a pick, or we're gonna be picking, or they're gonna be or someone's gonna come ahead of them,

or they're gonna make a pick. And to their credit, I feel like the subterfuge didn't really kick up until these trades happened, that kind of putting them in that spot where they're the first pick, where you don't really know, right, I mean, how long were we talking about Rams being their guy? I mean, and it was one of those you felt really good about it up until they were put in this position that they kind of control the rest of the top ten. Well, we weren't smoke and

mirrors ever since. Well, we've we've talked about too, and you're absolutely right. Dave Ramsey was a guy that well maybe if San Diego doesn't take it, maybe then it was like, well Bosa's in there for Dallas and it went real strong and then and then all of a sudden, those trades hit and now you're thinking, well, whoa, maybe they can get Jalen Ramsey out of this, out of this draft. And I think, you know, we talked about this with the Cowboys. It's a unique situation because their

first round draft board is basically two players. We know quarterbacks going one two, so they need two players that they have identified as their guys. We'll see who goes through to San Diego. You know, the Ronnie Stanley train has picked up. It's amazing to me. That's how that's how this works. That's always crazy reeks of draft week

bs to me, I just don't believe it. I think it's fun though, I mean it's it's it's nerve racking because I'm listening to people say, you know, while they're gonna take this guy, this guy, and like I said, you want to focus in him. Man, they're gonna take this guy. I mean, when Jerry Jones asked me a question, it was like, they're gonna take this is who they're gonna take. You know, this is the pick they're gonna

make because you want to give the best information. And I but that Ronnie Stanley thing, you know, I mean if with Tunsil, I wonder if it's a situation where people are are considering, well, maybe there's some off the field stuff there. That things with Kim DJ that we heard at the combine when we went all the way back there, and like he was with me when I was falling out of windows and stuff like that, and you know, stepfather's suing him right now. It's bizarre. Yeah, right.

I think I think it's more of a culture thing, and you know, a better fit just within you know, that locker room and that franchise and the culture that I think that part weighs heavily, especially when you're picking top three. I want to get the person right. And so if it is a situation where Stanley is drafted ahead of Tounsil, then that has to be it because in terms of on field play, there's a huge gap.

There is a huge gap there and there's and even to the point the gap where on my top fifty I have Jack Conklin ahead of Stanley and you want Stanley play and you're like going, okay, there's some softness to their game. There's some attitude to his game that's not you know, not like a glass eater kind of a guy. Where Jack Conklin I'm seeing like a guy a glass eater. I'm seeing a tough walk on. He

cleaned up nice for this draft. Yeah, all the photos I've seen of him, he's like sweaty and grimy, like you want to tackle to me. But that's all nice on the TV show and I don't even recognize And that's you know, if we're going on if we're going

on that, then yeah, maybe he should be. But but I think though, like I said, it's amazing to how when you get through this process that we've done and evaluating these players and how different and how my love for Paxston Lynches for you know, for that and some people absolutely hate Paxston Lynch and there's love, there's some love for Connor Cook, and I think that we all

agree about, you know. It's just it's it's amazing how this it's come to where these players are gonna be selected and how these teams view these guys, because there's gonna be some times in this from one to two fifty three when we're talking and I guarantee you're gonna go, man, I don't know about that one, or you're gonna go, oh man, what a great pick? Oh yeah? And you know, and that's where that's the great beauty of the draft.

We don't really know. Yeah, but san Diego has got me, and it's and I want to and I want to just sit there and believe, Okay, I got this thing wired. It's it's kind of like like your first instinct is the right instinct, right Like when we picked the games during the season, you kind of make your pick on Tuesday, and then you debate with yourself for five more days. The first one's probably the right one. And that's how I I think it'll be Buckner Ramsey. That's how I'm

kind of feeling right now with San Diego. Absolutely this entire way up until this point. And you know, the Stanley stuff last night, so I switched it to Stanley in my final mock and and this is and this is a mock champion right here, my man, here, would you have nine of the you had nine nine nine last year, which the best I've ever done. Yeah, that's I'm saying. I know this guy. There's a lot of pride in what he does. Ronnie Stanley is not gonna

far this fall this far. But it reminds me of Ryan Nasseib, like everybody was convinced he was always coach coached him and the Giants are gonna back up Eli with Ryan nass He's the third round pick. All the things that we talked about tonight, I did not expect Stanley to get to get met you of Ryan Nassim, right, that is a hell of a parallel to draw. I mean, Stanley's is like a top fifteen pick. But sure, if he's the third pick, I'll be surprised, like very surprise,

the first non quarterback that that will be a huge surprise. Okay, just now, let's focus a little bit on the Cowboys here. With the fourth pick. We tried to figure out what San Diego is gonna do. We we talked about a lot of guys just not really sure the Cowboys have in the last two dragon and then I was hearing some whispers that they were going to try, they were trying to bail, they were trying to get out. Made some calls to a group, made a call to five.

No calls yet from the Cowboys. Made a call to seven. No calls yet from the Cowboys. So usually those are things that you're kind of throwing I'm chumming the water, trying to see if Dallas in fact is moving the pick. Five and seven said no, not moving the pick. They haven't heard from the Cowboys yet. Cowboys in the last two drafts twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen draft, they stayed put and made a pick. Do you feel like once again they're gonna stand in there and make a pick

at four? I kind of do. And we touched on this earlier in the week with our two other shows. Is it certainly seems like the trade market, at least that high up is cooled a little bit with the quarterbacks being presumably off the board on top of that, and we mentioned it, how far can they trade down

before they worry about losing on that? And I think, I mean, this looks like a thin draft at the top, at least in terms of first round, top sixteen picks and so I think they'd just rather have the guy that they feel good about rather than worry about maybe you're taking going down a significant step. I mean, even if you're trading only back to like eight or nine, who are you missing out on, especially which we think

it is if it's Jalen Ramsey or Ezekiel Elliot. If I'm a Cowboys fan, I think I have a smile my face right now because I have a good feeling that in an hour either Ezekiel Elliott or Jalen Ramsey will be a Cowboy and that makes me feel good. So if I'm a Cowboy, I'm entering this draft very optimistic about how is it going to play out? Yeah, and as we as we take a look behind us here you can't see you. On our camera angle, we have a view into the into the Cowboy war room.

They've covered with a gym towel. Yeah, I'm surprised we don't have some sponsorship on that right there? I figure somebody, would you just gave somebody a great idea we need we need to get Eagleton. Yeah, we need to get some sponsorship on that. Something on that towel. But the at but the war room looks looks very quiet from what I could see off to the side. Uh, we've got to can't tell me. We do have the war room cam up for we have the war room cam up. I just showed it to him. Okay, so towel So

once a towel is removable, Yeah, there absolutely So. Yeah, everybody seen that the war room is covered. When we get to uh, when we get to the commissioner walking up to uh the podium to open the draft, hopefully we will get the towel removed and we will see Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Uh, Jason Garrett, Will McClay, and all the scouts. As I look right, Jerry Jones is in the in the draft room. He is ready to go.

Um Any any thoughts though about you. You've said this though, you think it's gonna be one of those two guys, so and uh, I can't disagree with you on that. I got that. That's my that's on my top fifty, that's number two and number three. But you know, in flipped order. Uh you know, but we've all along thought that Jalen Ramsey has tops on their board. Do you think it is possible if both are on the board that they will go to the running back. I really don't.

I really don't. I think I want to. I want to believe. Now, I think there's some guys in that room. There's some scouts that I've talked to that think that that Jerry really does like that running back that now it's gonna be about can he make can he convinced? Is there enough guys in that room? Jerry is the final decision maker. What we've learned from him with the Manzelle draft was that even though he liked the player, he allowed the board to take presence over what was

going on. But do you think and you just said, this is two and three on your board, right, Yes, and we've talked about if the tags are touching and then preference and need and all that type of stuff comes into play. Yeah, well that's something that you like to talk about. Though in the top and that Top ten, maybe you're maybe it's not so much about need, but maybe it's about who really is the best player. They were talking about that on Monday for their press conference.

You tell me if you think I'm onto something or if you think I'm nuts. I really think this decision will say a lot about the Jerry and Stephen Jones dynamic. I think Steven Jones would rather have Jalen Ramsey. I think Jerry Jones would rather have Zeke. That's a really, that's a that's a and I think whatever they want, assuming both of them are there. I mean, if if Ramsey goes off the board quick, then it makes their

life a whole hell of a lot easier. Yeah. But if if if, if Zeke is the pick, I think it says a lot that. Yeah, I mean, Jerry thinks this is his guy, and he thinks that that they can take that next step with him. I think it

says a lot about the decision making. Yeah, And I think what that you know, that the thing that they've done, And I think that Will McClay has done a really nice job of this is focusing the group, not allowing and some of the things, some of the pitfalls that we had in in the early two thousands when I was in that room were too many voices, too many outside. You know, if you could get to Jerry last, maybe you could get your guy you know, on the board,

getting you know, influence him. I think that Will has done a really nice job of pulling this group together. I don't think we're going to see what happened with Sharif Floyd and that two drafts ago. You know, when all of a sudden, here's the fifth best player on their board, they're not taking him, They're eighteen. All of a sudden, there's some confusion. It's trade back, you know,

and all that stuff. So I think that they really are honed in on what this pick is going to be and there and waiting on san Diego to make the pick ahead of it. From everything that we have heard, doesn't it kind of seem like everybody's on the same page in the sense that whoever it is, be it Jalen Ramsey, be it Ezegil Elliott, it seems like everybody's on board with it being one of those two guys. It's not like this. I don't get the vibe that

this is a divided organization. I think, you know, they got to choose somebody, and either option seems pretty appealing to that. Well, the one thing the Cowboys have been able to do in these last several drafts has been able to hit on first round players. Yep. And you know, with the exception of what we've seen with mclaiborne. You know, as far as what they gave and what they thought, you know, they've done a nice job of getting talent.

Now it's about getting that talent. But as we go through this draft, also adding that second round or if they go back up in the draft, but the second round, third round, fourth, n they got a bunch of early picks here to make that happen. And that's the key, as they picked very early in each round and that's very valuable, especially on Day two, day three. So it's going to take a lot for them to use those

pick it package up. So if we do see a trade, they must really love the player to give up those picks, right right, I'm and to I mean, to your point, the second, third, fourth round picks, I'm fascinated if they do pick Zeke And for the millionth time, I'm a big Zeke fan, I'm fine with that. It's not a position of need and so that leaves you way more work to do. I mean, if you take care of Jalen Ramsey, you got a great player at a spot

where you need a starter. Okay, and uh we're starting off, well, we're gonna we're getting ready to can't just let me cue me up though. Are we gonna hear the commissioner open the draft? Is that something we're gonna go to when he when he goes to the uh to the podium. Here we'll see about that kid's working on something right now. But uh, we're getting close to uh, the the eighty

first NFL Draft being opened by Commissionery Goodell. Uh, we've we've thought all along that the quarterbacks are going to be the guys. It's actually something a point I'm meant to make. I mean, you look, it looks like the warm room is kind of filling up now you can kind of see behind the towel, but it I mean, both of these picks appear to have been made, the Rams and the Eagles, and right Goff followed by Wentz. I think most people expect that to happen. How long

do you expect these guys to hang on these picks? Yeah, you know, I mean the Rams are gonna turn their cards in thirty seconds, and I mean they're gonna weld this thing down. We're gonna have some drama. We're gonna let TV talk about their uh, their the picks and who you know. I think the Rams, the Rams have known all along since they made this trade, you know. That's that's the thing about it. So we'll be here

we go though. We're gonna get uh. We're gonna get the commissioner I believe is uh at the podium and so KNT can we pull that up? Okay? So in our headphones there we heard the commissioner to say we can hear it. There we go, Here we go, Yay. There it is draft. It is draft time. Against all odds, there we go. So the the the draft aft is officially opened. I've got to be careful here. We got this little bit of delay on the from TV to what we're doing. But we'll try and we'll try and

stay together. Here. We've got about eight different types of feeds going everything, and I going on to think any of them are SYNCD up. So yeah, it'll be fun. Jared Golf pick for the Rams. Excited about that. He's one of your top quarterbacks. He is the top quarterback in his draft and you kind of talk a little bit about him. In fact, if if he is the pick for the Rams, well I think he makes a lot of sense for the Rams. Obviously they gave up a lot to go up to that number one selection

get their quarterback. It's what they needed. They're missing that quarterback, and so in order to stay relevant in order to get to that next level as a franchise, especially moving to Los Angeles, they needed that fresh face. And I think Jared Goff can be that guy. And now is he He's not prototypical in several areas. Doesn't have that power arm, good enough arm, not a power arm, a little leaner than you want, two hundred and fifteen pounds

for a six or four frame. But he's a player that from a mental standpoint, Hey, he understands his natural feel for the game. You understand situations. You know, you watch him the way he can throw receivers, opening that passing anticipation, you know. La. We'll see if they use all eight minutes here left to pick, but I do think it will be Jared Goff, and I love the fit.

And he's in a situation where case keenum he can start if he needs to, right, Jared Goff doesn't have to start from day one, but I do think he has the talent to start very early in his career. Yeah, And I want to just echo some of the thoughts about about Jared Goff. He was this my second favorite quarterback on the board, had him the tags touching right there. Uh. You know, history will say whether I'm right or wrong about him, but never been a fan of the guy.

Yeah you me, Yeah, not to the point. Well, I mean I said some positive things about him, you know, I mean I but I have him his number, I have Lynch his number seven. Shoot me straight right here. If you were the GM, if you were less sneed, would you be drafting Paxston Lynch right now? I probably would have number one. Yeah, okay, I probably would just wondering. Yeah, And that's but you know, that's that's just my sure.

If they if they need, if they need it, if they you know, with the quarterback needs and all that, I think there's some you know, Dane was even talking about not having play. Okay, we have war room cam up and it looks like that everybody is in position right now. That would be if you on your screen as you look at it. Chris Hall is sitting at the long haired yeah, far far right, at the very bottom,

next to Will McClay. Uh, Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones standing up right now to take some pictures with some Texas State Lottery lottery folks. So yeah, how cool is that? If you win that thing, you get to go in there and they they're all nice to you, and you get to see the war room and that's funny. All the scouts are sitting there looking at each other like, okay, are we going to draft any time soon? Here? So if I if I walked in there, they would pelt

garbage at man. Yeah, but these guys get to take photos with Jerry and as we and as we uh, as we focus around, like I said, will McClay next to it, will be next to Stephen Jones. Jerry Jones has middle chair Charlotte Jones Anderson to his right with between him and Jason Garrett. That's interesting. Now here we go. The guy that just sat down next to Jason Garrett is Gary Brown, who coaches running backs for the Dallas Cowboys. Wow,

that is very interesting. To be able to run the football, so we'll be able to Let's let's like that's something very interesting right now as you look at war room camp, Gary Brown, he is Jason Garrett just pounded him on the chest. So this is that is fascinating. Yeah, right there, you just caught a very interesting glimpse that it looks like. And if if, if I'm going to read this right, Ezekiel Elliott, um could very well be your pick here.

I'm not trying to be dramatic. I mean, who nahell knows what they're gonna do, But typically the position coach of the guy they're gonna draft comes in chats before they make the pick. Yeah, is what typically happened. They just they just tip their hand. Pretty pretty interesting. I'm not gonna sit here and say that definitely means their drafting Zeke. But if you're a Zeke guy, that's you have to feel good that we have anything to see

we haven't seen. We haven't seen Greg Jackson or Joe Baker in the room yet, so that that might be uh, it might be very interesting, uh bit of So for all you Zeke Elliott fans, uh, this could be. This could be very much the pick. The Rams are still on the clock. They have five minutes and ten seconds to go, uh and then they will have to make

their pick. We all think it's gonna be Jared Golf, the quarterback from Cal but just fascinate right off the bat, we wore room Cam just gave you a bit, a little bit of a glimpse of what's going on something else, And I hate speculating, but there's a video going around now on Twitter. Oh I was, I was unsure if we needed to bring that up. I was, I mean, that's that is, that is uncharted territory. Brian, have you have you seen this? No? I have not. I have not,

So there is a go ahead. There's a video, a thirty second video of Laramie Tounsil. It certainly appears to be Laramie Tounsl. It does look like him and smoking a bong attached to a gas mask and very ironic timing. His account put it out and then quickly deleted it. And now it's all over Twitter. Oh no, and when I mean, I don't know what to think about that.

But his stepfather's suing him right now. That's bizarre, and I wonder, well, there's some teams that have had some concerning are we about to see a big slip from this guy? Honestly, though, the two old miss players, if you think about it, Kim Dja and Tounsil. If that's in fact the k so this video could be two years old. I mean, you never know, you never know. It's just it's very ironic the timing here. Yes, And honestly, I will say, if these teams did their research worth

a lick, then that video should not surprise them, right. Um. Robert Candici brought up the fact that Tunsel was at his party at the combine, Right, So this this shouldn't be news to you. But it is very interesting that this video popped up on the internet as people are, you know, taking their seats in the auditorium, as this whole thing's about to get underway. Certainly makes you kind of wonder, doesn't maybe San Diego isn't interested in maybe

they do San Diego all along. I mean, we've kind of thought they're gonna take an office to tackle the whole thing with Stanley, you know, do you know? And that's the and that's really the disadvantage that we we do have evaluating these players is you look at the tape, you make, you put your grade up on the tape, and then all these all these you know, things happen and you never know to be fair to the people

who know things. Um, what I've heard about Stanley is what makes him appealing is that he's like a Byron Jones, boy scout type of guy. So maybe he's not as good as Tounsel, but he's not gonna get you in any headlines that you don't want to be a part of either. Okay, the Rams still on the clock too, forty five Jeff Fish or feel free to hand that card and you get ten minutes in the first round. Right. They've known who this was going to be for two weeks.

It's hilarious to me that it takes them eight minutes to come to this conclusion. Well, the Rams, this is the worst kept secret in the NFL. But the Rams have been doing the NFL a favor by not tipping who they're taking, by saying, oh, we only like both guys. We're gonna do some more research on both. But they know who they're taking. They're they're keeping intrigue for ratings. Yeah now, and then they're doing a nice job of

it too. I'm just fascinated though, by you know, I don't think we've ever now my own experience that we talk about things that come up. The day of the draft was part of a draft with Warren Sapp and the drug rumors. The day of the draft and Ron Wolf, the general manager of the Packers at time. I'll never forget him picking up the phone minutes before the draft is about to roll and he hits the button to the league office and just starts just going off on, Hey,

how can you put this information out now? How can you do this? How can you do that? So unfortunate though for tounsl if in fact this really really is the case for him. So it looks like Jeff Fisher's on the phone with the quarterback that they will be drafting. Well, let's see if he, in fact is is talking to anybody. They'll probably pay into a picture and we'll see if

Golf four wins is on the phone. But we all believe though, this will pick will be Jared Golf, the quarterback from cal uh and uh and like you said, Dane Fates of the franchise, Yeah, California, Los Angeles, keep him in California. A player who you know, will he ever be on the Andrew Luck level in terms of star quarterbacks, Probably not, but he can be, you know, better than a Matt Ryan or that type of player.

A guy that can help you compete for the playoffs if he can in division, if he can be better than Matt Ryan, that's all. You gotta take him at number one. Yeah, I mean Matt Ryan, and we all believe that he is going to be the pick. We I mean we this is all. And when when that looks like the pick is in, So we'll try and see when the commissioner makes his way to the podium. We're on a little bit of a delay here ourselves, so we'll try and make sure that we bring that

to you. But Ken Garrison already doing a great job of getting us lined up, set up and all that stuff. So here we go. I don't think we were okay, we thought we were product. Yeah, I was gonna say, mister Goodell does not appear to be at the put. We'll get we'll get it. We'll get this one. Get it, we'll get we'll get it. We're gonna be here for twenty Yeah. Like I say, it's it's difficult when you're trying to get everything kind of lined up here and

all and all done the right way. But it's like you said, Jared golf quarterback from cal should be this pick. Uh you know, it's uh it's nice to uh it's nice to, like I say, to be here and have this uh have this draft going on, let's talk about him with in comparison to say, the guys last year, you know Dane somebody. Well, here here we go. I'm sorry the commissioner. They're showing it. Let's see if he won. Fact, then here comes Commissioner Goodell with the pick. Got a

new entrance. Oh, hamm it up, Roger, I like it. With the first pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL draft, the Los Angeles Rams select Jared Goff Boom, California. And there it is, Jared Goff. You said, the worst kept secret in the surprise it has surprised ever And yeah, it's it's it's a good pick. It's what the Rams traded up for. It's the first time since nineteen seventy five that cal has had the number one overall pick in the NFL draft. That was Steve Barkowski Atlanta Falcons. Uh.

Another another note, that was Lee Steinberg's first client. Yeah, that's that's yeah, that's the first That's the client that launched Lee Steinberg to his career as a sports age Jerry McGuire exactly. Alex Smith has had a pretty good career, but it should have been Aaron Rodgers. Well, what's so funny about that is that funny Mike McCartney, who's now the coach at Green Bay is was on the staff at the forty nine Ers when they picked Alex Smith.

So I mean asking that question he kind oft as they had on one two his digs in about that from time to time. And this is for the Rams. This is the just the second time they drafted a quarterback in the first round, uh, hitting their franchise, So first time with Sam Bradford. Uh And so hopefully it works out a little better this time around for the Rams. But you know he's going to an offense that you look at the receivers, average set of receivers with guys

like Brian Quick, Tavon Austin, Kenny Britt. But it's what's in that backfield that you know, gives me a lot of excitement for Jared Goff handing off to Todd Gurley at twenty twenty five times a game. To have that crutch as a young player, Uh, that that's outstanding. So you look at the Rams back to back years in the first round, two top ten picks to get Girley and Golf, that's a pretty good two year haul. Yeah,

and the and the and the rams. I can say, you know, there's there's never It's it's funny when you watch them on tape. Defensively though, you know that that front seven, I mean they're gonna have to do some retoul and though on the linebackers Lara and Yeah, but Aaron Donald we've talked about. Yeah, we've talked about those guys, A bunch and draft big Guy. Big Guy and I had a debate here yesterday evening. Dan, I think you

were gone by that point. Uh. If if this is twenty fifteen, golf goes where in relation to Jamis and Mariota, he's the third quarterback off the board. I think he's strongly about that. Brian's over here trying to tell me that golf goes before Mariota, and I just don't believe it. I you know what though, I I like I said, I mean, you you think that I had this negative I think that people had more questions about Mariota than they did golf. It means don't think the downfield throws. Yeah,

I think that's fairy. Mariota brings a little more upside though, or you know a little more the physical skill set. What he brings from a mental standpoint is that because of a move around quarterback guy, I think you have some question marks. Yeah, the fact that Tennessee was not moving that pick, you know, like no one was willing there could trade up to that number two pick. Cleveland tried, right, you know, different teams trying to get the number two.

Maybe it's revisionist history, but as real as as soon as a couple of weeks before last year's draft, I remember there were analysts that were trying to convince people that Mariota could be the number one pick, and nobody really ever bought it. But there was no shortage of people trying to sell that that Mariota was, you know, was better than Jamis basically. And I never got the sense that anybody was overly convinced on golf. I think

golf would have been the third behind those guys, no question. Yeah. And I think you look through some of the teams, you know, Cleveland with two first round picks, maybe they move open to the top ten to get a golf this year. I know the Browns Golf was their number one quarterback. They have a chance to draft him. But now, okay, we got four minutes left, four and a half minutes for the Eagles. Yeah, another one where we're not expecting

a surprise here another one. Well, I think that, you know, I think that to me, it's got to be another quarterback. I mean, you wouldn't do everything that you did to get up. I actually somebody on Twitter said something to me within the last five minutes. I was like, I can't shake the feeling that they're gonna get Zeke even after the trade. You don't do that to get at anybody but a quarterback. In my opinion, Well, if you haul that they gave up. Yeah, if you think about though,

the Eagles team needs quarterback surely. You know they've bought time with Bradford and now you have a new coach in there. You went out, you spent some money, you know on stone Chase Daniel, you gave, you gave, you know, you gave Bradford some more money though, But sounds like to me, if you could get through this year, you can move on from that contract. I'm gonna say. I mean, and both of those deals are designed that they can get rid of them after this season and it won't

hurt them too much. I mean, I know people are talking about trading or cutting Bradford this year. That doesn't seem likely. It doesn't sound like they're particularly interested in doing it. But you can move on from him next year without it being a big deal. And I think the consensus on wins is that they don't. Nobody would want him to start this year anyway. I think people would prefer for him to season. And I kind of

learned behind a guy a little bit. You want him to red shirt and you know, let the game come to him because again I've said this before, I don't care how much of a quarterback guru or expert that you are, there's just no accounting for that jump and talent, jumping competition, jumping speed going from the FCS level to the NFL level. So for Wentz it's going to take a learning adjustment. How long will it take for him? Yeah, who knows. Maybe he can see the field at some

point as a rookie. Maybe it will be in year two. But they do have a situation with Bradford and Chase Daniel where he doesn't have to go in from day one. But let me ask you this, how willing of a mentor is Sam Bradford going to be if he's trying to get the hell out of him. Who knows will he be there? You know, there's a lot of doubt with that situation right now. But you know he called him a baby. Yeah he is a baby. I mean,

you don't run from competition. You signed a two year deal and you signed a five year deal here right, You signed a two year deal. I mean, the best thing that he could do for his career, go out, be awesome this year and then you know, okay, once is the future. But then go sign somewhere else for even more big money. Um, you know, I understand that he doesn't want, you know, he wants a more sure situation.

But again, you signed a two year deal. It's not like you were really in the long term plans anyway. So homeboy has made eighty million dollars out of being a pretty average quarterback. He was one of those last quarterbacks to get that big money. He was the last one, I think, or was it that the guarantee the big million dollar Contram was the next guy right and eleven? Yeah, that's a I mean you're talking like a thirty million dollar drop in your guarantees. It mean Sam Bradford and Camp. Okay,

to pick is in for the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's go to the podium, commissioner making his way. Here we go. The way this set is set up looks like a wrestling event like Goodell's coming down the ramp. Second pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagle select Carson and wins quarterback Dakota Stay and now it gets interesting. And if you look at Carson Wentz's suit design, he had his handkerchief in his pocket is green and his sighs yellow. Right buys a nation there, Yeah, there

you go. Congratulations, are going North Dakota is probably a fun place to be. Right now. Let me ask you this, though, are you if you're the Eagles, do you feel I mean, how do you feel about this pick? How do you feel about it? Really? I mean you You've given a lot for Carson Wentz, You've you know next year's ones now off the book. I absolutely hate it for them. I mean it doesn't matter to me, but I'd never

been that big of a fan of the guy. I know, Mayok and some other people compare him to Andrew luck Um. I don't like the idea of giving up that much stuff for a guy that we just said needs time to become a better quarterback. If you're doing that, I would hope it's the Andrew Luck type of guy. Like right now, Yeah, and what's they did give up a lot? Wow, you're really investing in your future here. You just you

hope it works out for the player. And you know, with the Eagles situation, they have some talent on that roster. It's not like, you know, they gave up picks and it's going to hamstring them for the future. I mean, obviously you'd like to have those picks, but they do have talent to build around a quarterback like Carson Wentz. So yeah, it will be interesting to see how it

works out. But he is I mean, when you think about the situation he's going to with the quarterbacks already in the roster again, like I talked about, it's a good situation for him. He doesn't have to worry about, you know, being press in the action too early. If he's not ready, you know, they can bring him along at his own pace. And that's what a lot of these quarterbacks need. A lot of times, when you're a top ten quarterback, you're pressing the action from day one,

but not Carson Wentz. There would to shock any of us if we did not see him play at all this year, And to me, it would not shocking. And we thought that maybe with the bortles Chad Henny struggled, so in Jacksonville they put him on the field early. But it wouldn't surprise me if Carson Wentz has a hard time getting into uniform this year, You're a factor. And that's that. Chase Daniels looking at the war room right now. For the Cowboys, they look very relaxed. San

Diego in fact, is on the clock. Uh, they're gonna They're gonna have about six minutes if my calculations are correct. Just for the sake of being dramatic, I have not seen Joe Baker, and I have not seen Hugh Jackson pop onto this. Yeah, not Hugh Jackson. He's the coach of the he's the coach of the Cleveland Browns. Jackson, thank you. It'd be good. Greig Jackson. Yeah, but everybody looks like smiles all around. Stephen Jones on the phone, Chris Hall, as you see on the lower right hand

your screen is on the phone. He usually is dealing with the player. Uh and uh, so we'll see Stephen Jones has his cell phone to his ear Chris Hall. He's talking to actually he's talking to Robert Blackwell in Chicago. That Robert Blackwell will hand in the trade card for the Cowboys. If you're falling along with us on the screen, if you could see that, uh, he will, he will tell Robert when they're ready to go. And so here the uh you know they're there. Everybody looks very happy,

they look very comfortable. Does not look like an anxious. Yeah, this doesn't look like a team that is sweating this pick for San Diego. So let's see by again my calculation. Right there, it's five minutes left for the Chargers. Chargers still might be fielding some calls. The needs for the Chargers we've talked about, uh, defensive end, safety corner, a wide receiver, tight end guard. I mean they can go

a couple of different ways. As we uh, as we take a peek in the Chargers room there, they looked like they were high five in each other. So they probably have their card going in. Everybody's very anxious about this to see what direction. But it looks like guys just looking at body language in the war room. They've

got their guy. They clearly got their guy. And I hate to I mean, we're gonna see, but I mean, based on everything we're seeing, points toward that Columbus dude, ye go giving them a heads up on the phone or something. Do you do you agree with that? Brian? Well, as far as Zeke, everything we've seen so far leads me to bed. Yeah, I've I've been in that war room six years with his crew. You bring that coach in there and kind of talk to him a little

bit about what's going on. And Garrett, you know, gave him. They gave him the bump to the chest. And so you know, everybody they look very very calm. They do not look like that they're worried about San Diego. San Diego could now if San Diego were to move this pick and all of a sudden, you know, if they've in fact a deal was struck in front of them, then you have to be careful. So it looks like that the chargers still have three minutes and thirty five seconds.

So it looks like now that clock just went away, so it might be the pick is in uh, and then we're going to get an announcement on, in fact, what the Chargers do. Anybody want to take a guess. I mean, we opened this show with the Chargers, and you know what could happen at three? And I'm I'm gonna go with your gut and DeForrest Buckner, Okay, And that'll make it interesting because then we'll really see how the Cowboys feel about these two guys we've linked them too.

There have been a lot of late rumors about Joey Bosa to the Chargers, now, I mean there, we talked about it at the start. San Diego has done an outstanding job of keeping what they really want close to the vest, not giving it away. You know, there's been a lot of names linked to San Diego and so you know we're about to find out who that name is. But you know, they've done a great job of being coy. Has Joey Bosa been a guy that's maybe could slide or is that you just mentioned his name? I mean,

joe we talked about him. Maybe we talked about him at four heavy grand scheme of things though. Yeah, I mean you look at Bosa and you know, I think he could fit a lot of these spots here in the top ten, Jacksonville at five. You know, you look at Baltimore at six, you look at Tampa at nine. I mean, Joey Bosa is not gonna have to wait very long, especially if he could be this pick right now. You know the Chargers have wanted that pass rusher. I

don't think you can rule him out. Yeah, and the Chargers we talked about this UH needs for them, UH defensive end. We've linked Buttner to them quite a bit, the cornerback safety combination. Ramsey could very well be that guy. Uh you know that does the team like the two? I wouldn't you know? This is a team that have has just thrown a lot of chum in the water, and they can go a lot of different ways. I

like what you're saying about Bosa. I like what we've talked about with UH, with Buttner, you know Ramsey, I mean it, it's this is it? And now though this offensive tackle situation what we're hearing, you know that that might not play if it is Joey Bosa. You know, taking taking bets at the at the beginning of the day, who would have thought that the top non quarterback would be Joey Bosa I mean, I I think he's worth it. To me, he's one of the top I have a

number four on my board. To me, Joey Bosa is one of the best players in this draft. I think it's a home run pick if it is, if that is the direction they go. But it is interesting because I don't think a lot of people expected Joey Bosa to go number three to the charters. Yeah, they they've They've done a nice job of of of hanging hanging onto that pick and making a lot of people think that they've They've got other things in mind. So if he's not the pick here, well, here's the pick picks

coming in, So let's go to yeah selection. With the third pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, the San Diego Chargers select Joey Bosa. There you go, here we go. Nice job, Dan Burglar. Hey, we talked about Joey Bosa and we've debated him for months of how he would fit with this team, and it turns out Cowboys didn't even have a chance at him. Yeah, because he goes one pick ahead, and he's gotta be proud

about that. You fought me on Joey Bosa. Congratulations well, we'll find out in time if he actually was worth the number three pick in the top non quarterback drafted. But you know, we gain kudos to the Chargers that kind of plan this, after all the gnashing of teeth about Bosa not being good enough for four. How ironic is it that the Cowboys couldn't have him if they wanted him? Right? That's hysterical. I mean, I'm sitting here thinking if he's not the pick here, no way does

he fall past you know, eight to ten. I think that the Giants would love him. I think there's a mean uh yeah, I think Tampa Bay would love him. I didn't see him falling that far. Now that makes me wonder I'd said a minute ago that I thought Buckner would be the pick. You see, you mean maybe he's the third guy. Where does he go? Now that's fascinating. Yeah, that's yeah, that jackson I will I will guarantee which Jacksonville gets on the clock. They they've hoped, they were

hopeful that Buckner would be there. I could almost guarantee. Okay, the uh the that means with the Chargers announced selection there at three, the Cowboys are on the clock, that might and both of the two guys that we have linked them to for the last week or two. All Right, it is the situation. They're both on the on the board here, Yeah, which struction do they go? Do they go with the defensive stud who it might be more of a need, not only right now but long term.

Or do they go with the offensive playmaker, a guy who probably helps you win more games now might not be your biggest need, but some players are just special and you don't pass on them. And so that could be the running back. So this is we could see back to back buck eyes here. Yeah, and we very well could, and you'll see a lot of Buckeyes. This does not look this doesn't look to me like a

group of people that's sweating it. No, they're they're they're but they're looking at It's funny though, Jerry's looking at down on his on his notes, and maybe they're thinking about moving. I mean, I don't know how they would. Maybe somebody entertain him. He looks like he's doing a little math in front of him, and Jason Garrett looks like that he wants to make this pick. So again, you know, if you're watching a war room camp, Yeah, they're they're not, they're not really. The only guy that's

on the phone currently is uh is Chris Hall. And then he is on the phone with Robert Blackwell once again in Chicago. He's just waiting for Jerry Jones to point to him. Chris looks, Chris looks a little stressed of everybody in there. Yeah, well they're they're all, they're all and by my okay, So we got four minutes and twenty five seconds? Am I crazy? Or does it feel like like the teams get ten minutes and it does not feel It feels like they get about five

because they're talking and the adrenaline's up. But yes, it's fascinating. It is boasts that we talked about ideal for four to three. Now he's going to a scheme that's primarily a three to four. So it would be interesting to see how the Chargers use him, if they use him standing up, if they you know, try to go to a more four man front with his hand on the ground. Uh, you know, do they move them around up and down the line of scrimmage, How they use Joey Bose will

be really interesting. In San Diego, well, the Cowboys still have not handed in the card Chris Hall patiently waiting for Jerry Jones to tell him to go with it. The Cowboys have three minutes forty five seconds. Is uh. There is a little bit of discussion there. I mean Stephen Jones waiting for the phone ring here there. Maybe somebody called Stephen Jones on his private number there and and and now is talked up to him about maybe going back in this draft. Uh, let's see that. You know,

maybe somebody wants to come up and get Ramsey. I would the guy that every seems to be wanting to trade up for, would would be uh, would be Zeke. I've heard more Zeke trades than I don't think somebody would come up for Ramsey. Maybe not Tonsil. Now I think we saw Yeah, I think I think it's I think that they're just patiently waiting to see what the directions goes. This is again we're starting they're starting to look a little more stressed than they were. Yeah, I'll

say that they're patiently waiting. Maybe where are they waiting for? Maybe somebody offered him something that they're definitely thinking about. You know, that's the whole uh, you know, the way that their stack is set and all that uh, you know, just instant though. If the pick is Zeke though, just a dynamic football player, absolutely, I mean that's I think I think Twitter will break, to be honest with you, Yeah yeah, I just just so much's fun watching his

tape explosive. He just makes everybody around him better. I mean, the Veneran players have said this on the draft, they'll fall in love with him because of how tough he really. You want to see, uh brought us be very quiet for a second. What are Zeke's weaknesses? Oh? I you know, yeah, I mean that's that's criticized one time. That's why I think if you watch, if you watch the Michigan State film, that should have handed him the damn ball every play.

It's what they should have done. You know, all right, the Cowboys inside of it's right at almost at the two minute mark, they're holding this thing. Uh you know, Jerry shaking his head like he does not want to go down in this thing. Garrett's kind of like, hey, let's just go and uh so the Cowboys are gonna hold this thing. Chris Hall patiently waiting and brunch time here. So yeah, so here we go. Two minutes. We'll see,

we'll see what this. Yeah, I've said this a million times, but if you're operating under the assumption that you're trying to win before Tony Romo retires, which the lack of addressing the quarterback in a big way certainly seems to indicate that Jerry thinks he's gonna play for five more years. I just think Zeke's the guy, Dave, you talked about this though. You said this. Now, if this is Zeke pick, it's Jerry Jones in the war room. I think so. Yeah.

I think Stephen Steven doesn't think like that, and he hasn't and that's why DeMarco Murray's not here. He he's a head coach too. I agree with that. I think Jason Garrett saw what a great running back did for his team two years ago, and I think Jason Garrett probably knows that Zeke has the potential to be better than DeMarco Murray. All Right, we're getting close to the one minute mark here for the Cowboys. They're they've tooken They excuse me, they've taken this all the way down

to the end. Will McClay just picked up the phone in the war room. Maybe somebody called him to try and throw one last trade at him. And uh, but it looks like to me that they're gonna sixty seconds. Yeah, there's sixty seconds in Chris Hall is talking with Robert Blackwell, who's at the table in Chicago. So they're just waiting and now, okay, Jerry Jones now is taking over the phone. So that means they probably got the player online and let's see them. In fact, everybody's clapping in the war

and so let's see there's a pick. This is it. Yeah, there's a pick, and will be very interested to see. Uh, they're taking it down to the last thirty seconds and then we will know exactly who that guy is. And uh, everybody looking. You know, I think that you know, uh with Elliott, like I say, you get you know, you get h you know so much of an this explosive player. You know you think about him. You think about also though with Ramsey, what he can still do, what he

can do. Uh, you know it's just gonna be. Here's the team with the running back. Is he helps everyone and you mentioned this, he helps the quarterback. He helps obviously the run game. What he brings as a receiver, that balance that he brings to the entire offense and then of course the defense. I think that balance that he brings to this offense. Uh, he's a true three down player and it's it's hard to pass on special and I think that's what Ezekiel Elliott brings to the field.

You know, you don't really see running backs go top five very often unless you're a very good player. And I think Ezekie Elliott definitely qualifies. And that's why he's in consideration with this pick. You know, we've talked about though the running back. You know, we've we've had many a draft show arguments about the running back in the position. You know, is it the is it the fact that that Zeke is just so much more of a talented

player than the other players? Do what was the grades that much better than the other players that they were they were looking at. I think, I mean, I think you got your answer if they pick him, yeah, I obviously And and like I said, I mean, it's it's not the greatest position of need on this team. Uh. Scott Scott Lenahan in here, Yeah, And if the offensive Courtt is a telling indicator, And here's the pick. The

commissioner is gonna come walk down this narrow hallway. He's not close to being the biggest need on this team, which tells you everything you need to know about how they feel about his talent. Yeah, here we go. Here's the commissioner pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select Ezekiel Boom. There it is, Ezekie Elliot is now a Dallas co Well, mom is excited. I think Cowboys Nations excited too, because that's that's a

dynamic playmaker right there. That I mean it. I honestly don't think I ever actually thought that they would do it, but they just would. I think the first draft show we did. I think we kind of quieted that from the start because it didn't seem like that would be the direction that this team would go. Yeah. I mean, already on the roster, you have Alfred Morris, you have Darren McFadden, you have Lance Dunbar. To use a number four pick to go get a running back seemed unlikely.

But here we are. That's a direction they go. And I tell you what, I'm applauding it. I think, who I think Ezekiel Elliott helps you win more games this year and moving forward than anyone else on the board. And so for that reason alone, I love this pick. I'm very confident Jalen Ramsey's going to be a great player. I don't know if he'll be a great player this year or even in twenty seventeen. I think Zeke Maybe

I'm giving him too much credit. I think Zeke has Pro Bowl potential from the any steps on the field. I think he'll be a candidate to be offensive rookie of the Year. I mean, if you've been listening to us all spring and we sound like broken records. But that's why they made this pick. This is a guy who as a rookie, if he needs to, I mean, great, you still got McFadden and Morris if he needs to. Though.

He can carry the ball twenty to twenty five times a game, he can play all three downs, he can protect the passer, he can catch out of the backfield. Like I mean, this guy is ready to go, more so than maybe anybody in this draft, and really since the mid nineties. I mean, you can make an argument this is the best quarterback, running back, wide receiver trio

this team has had since the mid nineties. Yeah, and so you have You're you're kind of bringing back Obviously the ages are different, but you're bringing back the Irvin Aikman and people dynamic. People were trying to make Murray and and Romo and Dez the new triplets two years ago. Zeke is a better player than DeMarco Murray. I think, I mean, sorry, Demo, I mean, you've been in the league for six years. You're a great player, don't get me wrong, But I think this is this is something

else entirely. Yeah, And as we look at the war room cam, you know, Jerry Jones sitting there, he looks extremely proud of to made this pick and Dave Hellman, you said it, and he got this war room back, and you know, I think that he would. You look at the coaches and you're right. Everything you guys have said about this and how he helps Tony Romo, how he helps his offense. There's a lot of people that

believe that he helps his defense. You know. You know, I've done so many radio, so much talking about this pick for so long now, and the last few weeks it really became clear, at least to me, that I thought Ramsey was that top guy, but Zeka Elliott was so close. He was right there. You just couldn't rule him out. And here we are. You know, only that room knows who's truly number one on the board. But regardless,

they got a great player. Yeah. And and this is not to say, you know, Jalen Ramsey could have very well, hell, hell helped this team. You know, Jalen Ramsey could have come in here and done a you know, a nice job. Maybe now, maybe one day we'll find out. Was the questions about Jalen Ramsey. You know, uh, you know, we've we've heard some rumors about some guys like Dion Sanders coming in and saying, hey, he can't play corner and

he can't do this and can't do that. Do you think there were enough people that maybe swayed the room, swayed Jerry Jones that just some more supplemental Informationally, it's it's kind of funny that put his shirt back on. Good for him. He maybe he just rolled it up. The biggest question with Zeke is you know, how many yards is he going to rush for? I mean, you know, you don't have to worry. He has so few weaknesses.

You know, he's a player that's very clean on the field. Uh, you know, I think they're clapping because Zeke just uh said that he's going to Dallas to win Super Bowls. Well, like I say, everybody's really excited about that, and that's good. Oh can I just can I just take a minute to point out that that's who I ended up mocking today in the in the mock all done well and now Jacksonville, Uh, Jacksonville's pick is is uh. I believe they're on the clock right the pick is in, so

Jacksonville will be now with Jalen Ramsey on the board. Yeah. This is where this is where I think that I think that maybe Jacksonville thought they got a gift here. You know, they were looking, they were and I was talking to Jacksonville. They were thinking about, hey, we you know, we'd be happy if if Buckner was there. But you know, they were also very happy about Jalen Ramsey. I think this could be one of those picks, and this is

where it will be compared. This is where if if in fact it's Jalen Ramsey, this is where history will compare if if Jalen Ramsey ens up having a great career and Zeke doesn't have a great career, or vice versa. I wasn't going to point out that the last running back to go top five was Trent Richardson. Wasn't gonna point that out, but uh no, and hopefully you're right, uh or you are right, because they will be compared, you know, going if if that is the pick here,

you know they also like the Forrest Buckner right. Uh, you know, the tackles are still available. Jacksonville could go that direction with Luke Jokil coming up in a contract year. But I think you know, Jacksonville has been searching for that playmaker in the secondary first so long. Now. You know, they have one fall in their laps. It's gonna be tough to pass on Jalen Ramsey here. Yeah, and they've but Jacksonville, they've they've got some nice young skill players.

You know, Fowler come back, and they got Fowler coming back, and they're you know, they're trying to I think though Jacksonville is in that if you're Gus Bradley, you're definitely in that win now mode. You've got to figure out, well, they've got to figure out a way to to you know, he got another year and they've been rebuilding for a

couple of years now, you know, earn that contract. And yeah, if you look at if you look at Jacksonville's team needs, it would be uh, the defensive end, which we've talked about, cornerback and linebacker. Jacksonville was one of those teams. I thought that maybe that Miles Jack would be there, but just talking to their guys, I'm curious to see where he gets. I would not be surprised if Myles Jack

ends up Owl's going back up over the war room cam. Yeah, so good for them and they're so little, do they know that we can still see part of the room. Well, good for them though that they they the player obviously

that they wanted. So that's a that's a you know, that's it's very interesting because again history will look and see if in fact, and it's funny, but I think it, I mean not to give us too much credit, but I think it kind of it started in that early going in January and February, and it sounds crazy with everything we know. You know this, maybe this team takes a running back at forth and you say, oh, I

don't know about that. Yeah, and then you look at Zeke and you look at this team and the options available to them. There's no Jadeveon Clowney on the board this year, and I think, you know, it starts, it starts small, and then next thing, you know, the Cowboys, and I think maybe the third time you hear the argument, you're like, yeah, okay, this makes some sense. And I kind of feel like that's been the greater scheme in this entire thing. All Right, The commissioner's making his way

down the hallway to the podium. He is going to announce Jacksonsville's pick with the fifth pick in the two South and sixteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguard select. There you go. Yeah, I thought that was an easy pick for them. Yeah, they've been looking for that playmaker in the secondary. Jalen Ramsey falls in their laps. You know, for Ramsey, he's staying in the state of Florida where he played college ball, and he's going to a team that has some promise. Yeah, if if Dante Fowler comes

back healthy. That defense, you know, they made some splashes and free agency signing b Link Jackson So I think, you know, that defense could be much improved this year in Jacksonville. Yeah, if you look at it, there that their situation though they brought in Prince Amukamar on a one year contract. They're looking for a future guy here, and so you know they're not they're not really sure that you know behind him what they've got. So this

is a guy that you could definitely build on. I know, watching him on tape, you know we were trying to figure out I grated him as a safety. Dan. I know you talked about him being a safety. Uh, it'll be interesting to see where Jacksonville plays him. But the guy does make plays. I will give him that great And you could talk about the interceptions or lack of or whatever, but you can watch him around the line of scrimmage. You can watch him tackle, you can watch

him do a lot of things to cover and all that. So, you know, Jacksonville feel like that they got a nice, nice gift there with Jalen Ramsey. We all think he's an outstanding football player. I feel really good about where that team is going in the next few years with Bortles and Hearns and Robinson and they got yelled in and every plan running back. Now they got this guy. You can basically have two top five picks because Dante Fowler's coming back to play his hopefully first snaps of

his career. Hopefully he's coming back one hundred percent healthy. I assume that they're going to be a force here in the next year or two. Okay, let's just recap what has happened since five picks have now or in. Jared Golf goes to the Rams, Carson Wentz to the Eagles, Joey Bosa to the San Diego Chargers. Nice job Chargers of hiding that I didn't have Joey Bosa going there, but nice job behind. And then Ezekiel Elliott that goes to Dallas with the fourth overall pick, and Jacksonville now

has just taken Jalen Ramsey. That means Baltimore is on the clock. And this is where it's kind of get interesting with these tackles on the board. Yeah, the Forrest Buckner is available to defensive end. The both tackles are on the board. Laramy Tunsel and Ronnie Stanley. Uh, you know a good nugget here from my buddy over at ESPN field yates. First time since two thousand and six no SEC players drafted top five. That is that's interesting. That wow. Yeah, they need to step it up though,

don't we dave, we'll be all right next year. We got some guys next year. It's Miami one at the beginning of Oh one, oh two. Yeah, I mean he had Vilma Portois, Sean Taylor ed Reid Well in two thousand and fours when they set the record with six first rounders. And so it'll be interesting to see if the Buck guys can challenge that. They're off to a good start with two to a great start, and we'll see, uh if they get to six. I think they're gonna

get five for sure. And it just that sixth guy can Vaughan Bell can uh, you know, Mike Thomas, one of those guys sneak into the late first quick Trivia. The last running back to go fourth overall was Darren McFadden No. Two thousand and eight, which probably not what you want to hear, given how Darren mcadden's career in Oakland went. Yeah, but I think Ezekie lelled is stepping into a far far better situation here than Darren McFadden

was back. You know the way we watched We're watching this war room and seeing how they were on the they were on the phones laid you wonder what oh sure who was calling the trade up, you know, who was calling the entertained Maybe, okay, we'll give you this, this and this, who was it? How far would they have to move back? Tells you how much they wanted Zeke? Yeah, because I you could just tell that they were entertaining trade offers there. I just think they were fearful that

they were going to lose Zeek. Yeah, that's that. That was that to me, if they knew And again that's the that's the intelligence that you gather before the draft. You have to figure out what where is he visited? You know, what are the teams, and then who could be the sleeper team that could come from the back of the draft and and make that all happen. I think it was Miami. I think they really wanted Zeke. They were they wanted to go up there. They wanted

to get that running back. And you know, the Cowboys didn't budge and I think they made the right move. Ross Tucker, who's an NFL guy, Yeah, makes the astute observation that he said, So the Cowboys do value the running back position. They just didn't value to Marco Murray, which and I mean, I think this is a different animal altogether. Zekelly is twenty years old. Twenty years old, much different. I just it's a vastly different animal. Given this kind of money to this kid at this position

as opposed to to Marco Murray, I think. I mean, I granted, like I said, Zekes, you have to play an NFL down, but I think he's the better player. Do you think the Cowboys move on from Darren McFadden now? I think it is. I don't think that they to be in any rush to figure that out because they don't have a fullback right now. I assume they'll sign a guy in sure, but I honestly, especially with Zeke Now,

I don't think they need a fullback. I think Lance Dunbar is a decent candidate to start the year on pup anyway while he comes back from this ACL n c L injury. So you might not even have him. So you got Zeke and you got two capable veterans. Would it surprise me if they move on from Darren McFadden,

Not one bit. But that's not We've seen Stephen Jones with those bridge players, you know, two years move on kind of a thing, though, that's not something that I think they need to be in any hurry to do until aunt comes time to cut the roster down though, I mean maybe first week of September. Sure, But take them all to training camp, figure out what you figure out what Dunbar's timeline looks like. Figure out, you know, do they need a fullback? If they don't need a fullback,

why not just carry all four? And we're gonna hear a lot about well, why'd they go and sign out for Morris? You know, why'd they do it? Well, you know, protect himselves probably a little bit. Exactly free agency is before the draft, so just the timeline of the off season, you know, that type of thing can happen. But again, picking top five, you take the best player. You don't really worry about, you know, who else you signed in

the offseason. You go and get the best player. Yeah, but I think that I think that that's something that we, you know, we need to to think about. Though, if in fact that they do make that move, you know, I mean is that you know, the beautiful thing with both of those contracts is big whoop. If they do, I like Derek cutting Darren McFadden is not going to set them back in any kind of way. Toward the salary cap or the roster or anything like that. Okay,

well it looks like Brad Sham. We have Cowboys royalty and the Cowboys long time broadcaster. He's gonna put on a headset and tell us how much he is going to enjoy saying walk the dog as often as the guy does it, all prepared to say it as long as it's walking the dog. I you know the thing that I thought about that, and you know you and I have been talking for a few days. I thought that this guy just take let me interrupt you here the Raby's gonna pick here just once second. Good commission.

The thing tackle sixteen NFL drafts. The Baltimore Ravens select Ronnie Stanley Burgo was on that one. I presume you guys have seen the little video that mister tunsl tweeted out that knead the uh the Elliott thing. To me, here's the big deal. You and I talked about a little bit, Brian. The other day. Everyone talked about Ramsey as a corner right, And I think that if you had been talking not you you. I think if people had been talking about Ramsey, Dane's uh, Dane's draft list

listed him as the number one's safety. That was really significant, Dane, I thought, because if people had been talking about Jalen Ramsey as a safety from the beginning, no one would say take him over Elliott. Right. If he's Dion Sanders, then it's do you want Dion or Emmett. If it's Ronnie Lot, everyone's taken Emmett. As great as safety as Ramsey might be, there's no doubt about which of those two guys, as a safety or a running back, is

going to impact the game more. Zekiel Elliot is going to touch the ball more than anybody not named Tony Romo, right, for the next five years, Ravis Frederick fair Point by you. Yeah, So, I mean, I think it was good and I think, as I know you guys have talked about it, it it helps the defense. It helps the defense two ways. One is it goes back to two years ago when they make more first downs, keep the defense freshen off the field.

But the other thing is they're going to score more points, right, and that's going to make other offenses play differently, take more chances, which is going to give this defense enhanced opportunities to get the turnovers. When you know that if you score thirteen points, you're probably going to win the game. Yeah, you're not taking many chances, and your turnover opportunities then are not very great. So let me ask you this, mister sham. I don't think there's anybody who's knowledge and

opinion of Cowboy's lawera I respect more thank you. We've discussed this at nauseum over the last couple of weeks. How would you feel if they gave this kid twenty two? No, absolutely not. I kind of thought he might know. I think there are a few numbers that are sacro sanct eight, twelve, twenty two. You know, eighty eight has already been recycled, fifty four has been recycled. Sure, but I think the all time leading rusher can't get twenty two. I mean, yeah,

I think it would. It would be very exciting if they did that. But I agree with you, I think, and Emmett signed off. You don't want to, you know, don't you don't want? No? No, I mean you mentioned the eighty eight, but on and in Michael Irvin as a Hall of Famer, he's an amazing cornerstone player in this franchise. I think Emmett Smith's career. Is that impressive that his accomplishments far eclipse Michael Irvin. I would have to look back in the book Dave to see which

if any players had eighty eight between Drew Pearson. That's a good point. And when I remember or when Michael got it, we all went, whoa. Yeah, they must really think he's gonna be good because they gave him Drew Pearson's number. Right now, you know, you've only got so many numbers, so you have to But twenty two is not going anywhere. San Francisco is currently on the clock right now, there's four minutes, forty five seconds before they have to make their pick. I'm a sucker for these

types of conversations. What about thirty three? How we feel about that? Well, it's already been given out other people have born. Sure, yeah, so that doesn't bother you. Well, whether it bothers me or not, it's really immaterial. I tried to avoid it. But when you're talking about the all, it's like in baseball with Pete Rose. You know, did he gamble? Yeah? Should he be in the Hall of Fame? Well, let's make a list of all the people who had

more hits in the history of the game than Pete Rose. Yeah, yeah, okay, so let's make a list of all the people who had more rushing yards in the history of the game than a at Smith. It is. It is a well made point, that's it. It's the reaction when I asked brought us for the weaknesses for Ezekiel Elliott. You know I went quiet, yeah, quite on that one. A very well rounded player. He might not be, you know, elite in some areas, but he's just so well rounded, a truth, truth,

three down player. Well see that. That's a key point, because what people forget about DeMarco Murray is one of the big attractions for drafting him in the third round. Yes, he was a critical piece of the passing game at Oklahoma. That he was. He was a much more dangerous weapon as a receiver, especially as last year in Norman than

he was as a runner. And I never thought they used him in the passing game the way that the Sooners did at the end of his career, and then of course they figured out, you know, what they could do with this line. I mean, I think it can be very exciting, and I think the expectation will be that they'll score a lot of points. And now this should make the wide receivers better because you're going to

have to deploy your defenders differently. Right. Well, he's there's no doubt that this is a guy that doesn't come off the field, right, I mean that this is a And when we were the combine all this sitting there and we were watching him talk, it was the question was about blocking, and he takes I mean that is prideful to him peewee football fullback, and he says, hey, they were if I didn't block, they were taking you

off the field. So you and I are going to stand next to each other in Oxnard, California when they go to the first team drills and see Sean Lee and Ezeki ell Elliott let me tell you what, and and Training Camp Live will be right there to film all of it for you. So yeah, get ready for that. Let me I mean, and maybe this is dumb. I mean, he has a top five pick and you got a two time Pro bowler and a guy coming off an eleven hundred yards season. They line up against the Giants

on September the eleventh. I mean, he's Zeke is your guy? Zeke is standing there on play number one, do you do you not care anything about training camp? Well, I mean that's fair, but I guess I don't I get that you think he's the guy when the training camp starts. I mean, uh, is it just an open competition basically? Is that's what it is? Best they plug and played, guys, I would say that first day, first snap. Now we'll

we'll know a little bit when we go to OTAs. Yeah, the fourth leading rusher in the NFL last year for me is getting the first snap. Yeah, that's I kind of agree. I mean, and but it won't take long. It won't take long. But I think that's the right way to you gotta earn it. Parcels was onto something without with not giving them the star on the helmet. They still do that. Yeah, the pick is in for the for the forty nine ers. This is interesting with

Laramy tunsel still available. Yeah, how far will he fall? Now? Then it's a good question because you know this the video that just came out ten minutes before the driver his dad right? Correct? Is that you know there's a did it surprise me? No? It was a vengeful video, is what it was. And so you know, again who knows how old it is? But these teams have done enough homework on a player like Laramy Tunsel where they know already if weed is a problem, is this something

that they have to worry about. So the fact that Ronnie Stanley went ahead of Laramie Tunsel tells us there are some issues here, right because in terms of on field talent, Laramie Tunsil has head and shoulders above Ronnie Stanley as a offensive tackle. If you look at the forty nine ers needs with real quick day, we talked about the quarterback there. What's going on there with that situation? How about a rusher, defensive end, wide receiver also thought

about here with the forty nine ers. When we get going, I predict this is a team the Cowboys play next year, by the way. Predict DeForest Buckner, a guy that Chip Kelly recorded at Oregon. Oh you're saying, okay, is it give me the why you predicted that one? Well, he's I think that he can potentially be a difference making defensive linensive lineman. There you go, and he can do it at more than one position. Oh, Brad Sham's an expert at what he does. Okay, Commissioner making the walk,

Here we go, say to Forest, but he's here. You get to stay, says, come on, Roger, you can do it with the seventh pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, because San Francisco forty nine ers select the Forest. Thank you, good ladies and gentleman and for joining us. And really I think that's a no brainer pick for the forty nine ers, Chip Kelly. He knows

a lot about the Forest Buckner. He coached him as a freshman, recruited him, so you could argue that no team knew more about the Forest Buckner than the forty nine ers. Yeah, you could connect the dots on that, pointing him in as a defensive ent in a three four. He's a prototypical five technique. Yeah, you know, I I love this fit for for both sides here. It makes a lot of sense. Dude showed up to his interview

here at Valley Ranch and at three Piece. Yeah, he was a sharp kid, he really really he seems like a good He's a kind of he's a win on and off the field from the very little I know about I'll be back. Boys. You don't need me anymore. I can't. I can't top that. Drop them like thanks very much. Bragg, appreciate your insight, mister sham voice of the Dallas Cowboys. We can look forward to all his calls. Say he will be calling Ezekie Lelli at touchdowns in the near I can't wait when I hear that walk

to I get I get excited about. Let's usually a touchdown right there. You guys, we have the Ezekiel Elliott phone call filing them. Okay, well, Kent Garrison doing a little producer on the fly here, so Kent fired up. Let's go Ezekiel away. Yeah, hold on as well with the cowboys. Somebody wants to talk to you, brother. Hold on, hey, Donald cowboy, this Cherry, y'all. I'm just doing great. I love Brad for you. Let's get it. Let's get this down. We want to pass you over here, let's go. You're

absolutely right. Here's your coach. Here's your coach right here. I'm good man. How are you doing? Where'd you get that suit? I've never seen a cut off shirt before like that? Oh my god? He congratulations right here. Okay, well that's the audience. Can I just say, I don't know, all right, maybe maybe somebody, maybe somebody thinks it's like disrespectful that he didn't call him mister Jones, but he's just so excited. How are you doing, Jerry? I love that? Okay.

Dane Burglar pointed out that the Browns have in fact made a trade. Dane, is you know this is the easiest thing to predict in this draft, was the Browns were going to trade out of this pick. Do we have the Titans coming up for an offensive tackle? Could could the Titans get the guy that we talked about at number one when they were at the number one pick? Yeah? Is that a possibility? Yeah? I think that you're onto

something with this Titans bunch. I think that they've said, and you said it on the Draft Show a bunch. Cleveland is a team about the numbers. They want numbers they're gonna make. It's me. What's the one team that has a lot of ammunition in this draft? Tennessee, They've got a lot of picks. So let's see what if it meant? There we go, Tennessee goes on the clock, see and here we go. If I and this is this is just me, but if I took that time to acquire all that stuff, I'd rather keep it. I'd

rather just use it in the order that I've got. Well, we'll see what they had to give up, because they had three second rounders. If they only had to give up one of those second rounders, maybe a future pick, then they still have two second rounders to work with. Yeah, if they're going up, you know, Tunsil's still there. Yeah, and you could probably argue that no team has probably done more homework on Tunsil than the Titans. Run through your offensive tackles. We have run through the guys that

you have in the way you have them ranked. Well, Larremy Tunsel's the clear cut number one, But again with the off field stuff, there's a lot of intrigue there. Jack Conklin, Yeah, Michigan stayed offensive tackle. You know, with Ronnie Stanley off the board, Jack Conklin is that next tackle. I mean he's in play in the top fifteen. If they are not comfortable with Larmy Tunsel and his character, then Jack Conklin is absolutely in play with this pick. Yeah,

you know, I'm a fan of Jack Conklin. I haven't missed my saying. I like what I wanted you to run through, because again we don't know with what's going on with Tunsel. This could be this could be a this could be a free fall. It could with Laramy Tunsel here though. I mean, and you could absolutely be right. But I just teams these days have so many ways of getting information. They got to know this stuff about

this guy. This isn't yeah, this isn't that that video that all of a sudden, This isn't going to be a surprise to anybody it's interested in this kid. Well, Tennessee, the pick, in fact is in. We're gonna get the particulars of what they gave up. They have a lot of ammunition to make these things happen, so we will see how it all plays out. Here, very excited. I think you guys are on the right path of the

offensive tackle. But which one? I mean, we've had him linked to Tounsil the whole time, and you know, all this craziness with with what's going on. I don't got a report that the Titans gave up seventy six, which is a third rounder. Oh wow, so they just to that's all they gave up. That's a that's an underpay to get to that. Oh my god. Yeah, So Cleveland, and here's the commissioner. He's making the walk Garrison Cleveland, oh And a second rounder next year. I still don't

think that's too bad. They still have three second rounders that to me. Browns have traded the eighth pick to the Tennessee Titans. With the eighth pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Tennessee Titans select Jack Cock. Whoa there? So we talked about it. Yeah, and this is what we're gonna see with these offensive tackles. If you don't get them early, they're gonna fly off the board. You're gonna be out of luck. So we're for Laramie Tunsel.

Who knows this is a free fall at this point. Yeah, you just had two tackles go ahead of you, who knows? And and the next one in line if you do your list, could Decker from Ohio State Spriggs? I mean, could we see two other tackles go ahead of Laramie Tunsel. I'm sitting here thinking, you know, I mean, there's teams on this board that could use tackles that never would have dreamed that Laramie Tunsel would be in their in their plan. I mean, I'm thinking specifically of the Indianapolis Cults.

So the Browns gave up the eighth overall pick and a sixth rounder this year for the fifteenth overall picks, number seventy six and the third round and then a second rounder next year. Yeah, that's not as bad as I thought it was at first. I'm getting that second round. And this is what you know we talked about. This will not be h the only time we see the Browns move. I think they're gonna be moving a lot more. They want to control next year's draft. They already have

two first rounders. Now they have two second rounders now they have and they have two third rounders next year. So the Browns are in position to control next year's draft already and they're not done moving around. Yeah, So which Jack Conklin, he goes, he goes to, Uh, the Tennessee Titans. The Titans a very aggressive move. They they they went down in the draft and now they come up in the draft. Give them a lot of credit for you know, they identified their player, they got picks,

and we look at Cleveland at fifteen. Now, I think that's gonna be a sweet spot for Treadwell. I think that's gonna make a lot of sense, uh, for the Browns moving back getting that playmaker, and you gotta love Zeke doing the Ohio. Yeah. I mean for Buckeye fans, that's uh. I'm amazed how many Buckeye fans are also Cowboys fans. So there's a lot of happy people. Okay, Well, tam Tampa Bay is on the clock. Hey, Kent, I'm

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there that's fallen along with us. We sure appreciate that. Uh. It means a lot that you followed along on the Draft shows and hopefully we can carry you through these next three days and uh you can enjoy our coverage and our back and forth. Uh. We're just really excited to be a part of this. And as we mentioned, the Chicago Bears made a trade with Tampa Bay. So the Bears are now picking at nine. Tampa will drop

to eleven. This will be interesting to the fact that the NFL Draft is in Chicago, so uh, it'll always be uh. And so they is Chicago is picking at eleven. Yeah, so they wanted to get ahead of the Giants at ten. Yeah. And the name that's been linked with the Giants the most has been Leonard Floyd. We'll talk about him a little bit if he would the pass rusher from George And there's the deal. The Bears gave up a fourth round or to swap spaces, go up two spots, take

the Bucks pick with Leonard Floyd. You know, he reminds me a lot of Archievous Mango in terms of a pass rusher with speed, a pass rusher with a lot of athletic ability. But I saw a player that didn't play with strength. The functional power wasn't there. Once blockers got their hands on him, they could shut him down. So you know, there's a lot to like about him,

but there's also I have a lot of questions. I gave him a second round grade knowing he'd probably go top fifteen because of the raw athleticism and pass rush ability. He had four and a half sacks last year. They asked him to do a lot of different things. That's not entirely on him, but I think it's a little bit of a risk. But Chicago moving to that three to four last season desperately need that pass rusher for

that scheme. And so I think if we're reading between the lines here, it looks like Floyd would be the likely trade up scenario here. Yeah, that's and I think you're onto something right here with Floyd. I'll tell you what. At the combine though he looked much bigger. He looked at that he does on tape. But there's a guy that's got some ben to him. He's got some he's got he's flexible, he's got for a tall guy, he's got some edge rush ability to him. So you're absolutely

right about the Bears. They desperately could use that type of a player going to the three to four. You know, they wanted a guy that could rush a pastor, and so we'll see what the deal or if the move is Okay, the commissioner is making his way to the podium. Chicago Bears are gonna make their pet with the Bears on the clock, we want to take this moment to remember one of the NFL's greatest men, Chicago's own Hall of Famer Walter Payton, Sweetness Kevin Well lost lost the

commissioner there, let's see if you can pull them back. Uh, and going from there, hold on we okay, well that's good. Ezekiel okay from Chicago. Here Leonard Floyd, Leonard Floyd, we got Zeke. So uh it sounds like, like I say, we could see the Bears are gonna make their pick. Here. We're waiting to see if Zekiel Elliot in fact is online. Zeke, are you with us? Maybe not yet. Let's see Zekiel, can you hear us? Okay? Here a Valley ranch Brian brought us. Zeke is on the camera. They're seeing Zeke.

We're about to get them live here. Okay here we okay, we're still waiting with a lot of things going on. Yeah, we're waiting. So yeah, we've uh, the Bears in fact, did make the pick Leonard Floyd the defensive end. Let's see, let's see off. Uh, it looks like to me the commission is gonna make that. I think you're right though, Dane, about that about that particular pick. So a lot of things going on here, but we're just trying to trying to pull it, to pull it all together. Hopefully we

can get complicated. Yeah production we're getting Yeah. So anyway, we got a lot of going on in the background. Uh here, So, um, that means now that the New York Giants are on the clock, Dane. You talked about this though they had to get ahead the Giants. That was Leonard Floyd was their guy that they were holding on that now, so now you have the Giants sitting there.

Oh shoot, yeah, Floyd's off the board, right, we gotta go to our next best option, Yeah, at number ten, because it looks like that's what Chicago's going up to get picks. Not official yet, but that's kind of what we're thinking. Yeah, Well, here's the needs for the if you want to say, the Giants wide receiver, safety, maybe an offensive tackle. Could could that be? Could that be the case? You know, here we go. Well, I'm sorry

the commissioner. I thought he'd already announced the pick. A lot going on, A lot going on here the audio on the pick because we're trying to get zeke on. Yeah, so they're in Chicago, so yeah, a lot of uh, a lot, a lot of dignitaries going on. So yeah, in fact, the pick's gonna go in here, we'll see if it's Leonard Floyd. I jumped the gun thinking it was going to be him. I think you're absolutely right about this day. So let's see ken are we going

to get the commissioner to pick? Are we still waiting on? Still waiting on z okay, still waiting on Zee. So we'll continue on. Thanks everybody bearing with us on this. We're trying to bring you bearing with us, bearing with us nice you like that didn't do that? He did? He? I didn't. I know, I'm not that smart to do it on purpose, though. It's not surprised caught it though, Yeah, but un but you know, looking back, like I say,

the U and what we've seen with the draft. Just to recap the last several picks of what we've seen this round, Jerry Golf goes one overall, Carson Wentz two, Joey Boasta three to the Chargers, Ezekiel Elliot, who were going to talk to here in just a little bit. At four, Jalen Ramsey goes to Jacksonville. At five, Ronnie Stanley, the offensive tackle from Notre Dame, goes to Baltimore at six. DeForrest Buttner, defensive in from or, goes to San Francisco

at seven. Jack Conklin, in a trade up by the Tennessee Titans, goes eight, and the Chicago Bears are on the clock. And like I said, I think that this is going to be Leonard Floyd, and they should and it is. In fact, it is Leonard Floyd, the the linebacker from Georgia. Dane talked about him. We were talking about in what we think about him as a player. Uh, there's some time when you watch him on tape, he does explode off the football, he does capture the corner

and so uh, you know the Dallas Cowboys. Uh, you know a guy that a lot of people looked at, you know is probably where would you play for the Cowboys? Would you play this guy as an outside linebacker? Would you play him as a defensive end? I think you have to. And he's tall, he's long. Uh. You love the speed, the flexibility, you know, the way he can capture the edge. It's what you want a pass rusher. But again, having all those traits are nice, but it

has to translate the functional you know, football production. And so I'm not sold on this player, especially this early. Uh you know, it's it's a risk to me again, barkievous Mingo is the player that jumps out to me. That is not a good stand out up to this point. Yeah, but now this is interesting for the Giants because this is what this was their guy. Leonard Floyd was who the Giants had had pegged as their guy. And so now they're going back to the drawing board. You know,

Laramie Tunzel still on the board. You know, Laramie Tunsil and Miles Jack are the two biggest wild cards right now. You know, could the Giants take a chance on one of those wild cards or who Vernon Hargraves is still available? A couple different options they could go here. Yeah, I just I'm always interested when you're when you're in that war room, you're always thinking about your division opponents. Sure, you know who who is who is who are they

going to take? And you know, and and and could they get a guy that could make a difference for them winning the divisions? And maybe, I mean maybe maybe we'll learn to rue the day that the Eagles took Carson Wentz. But we don't expect that to be twenty sixteen, right which, you know, it'll be interesting to see where the Giants pick. They're in a spot. I mean, Odell Beckham went right in this range and obviously made a huge splash, So got a big time opportunity to to

draft the guy who can make a difference right away. Okay, the Giants are, in fact, they're on the clock. They have two minutes and thirty seconds before they have to hand in their pick. Dane Burglar told you exactly what happened to them in front of them Chicago, realizing that he could be Leonard Floyd could be the guy there, guy that they look at and had a target on. Bears jump up ahead at nine, make a tray grab him. So now will this be where Laramie Tunsel stops, where

the fall stops. You know, we we've talked about the Giants and what they could need. Dave, you even talked about a linebacker in the situation. There's some people they went, this is like a lot of defense in free agency. A lot of people have peg Miles Jack in this spot despite the fact that his knee is banged up. Miles Jack is my number one rated player in my top fifties, and if he were to end up at the Giants, I would maybe do a sports cry for

you here right now. But here's here's the thing. I mean, Like, like I've said a few times tonight, nobody that's picking these guys should be surprised about Laramie Tunsil, you know, having some off field concerns. The Giants have been linked to offensive line. They've invested a lot of offensive line. If they can get this dude at ten, when two weeks ago he was expected to be number one, even if he's got off field concerns, I think you got

to call that a coup. But at this point you have to wonder how much work have some of these teams done on Laramie Tunsel not thinking he would even touch the eleventh through you know whatever, I don't think any of these teams really thought he'd fall that far, So did they, you know, work on him as thorough as some of these other players. It's a great point. Yeah, it's so it's it's a kind of a panic situation because the Giants are calling around, all these teams are

calling around. Okay, well why is he falling? Is there more to this video and what's going on? So this is really I mean, this is a draft drama right now. Yeah, and you know, we we we I mentioned it earlier about the Giants with adding the all the defensive presence that they they did, you know, with that front seven, and could they add you know, Miles Jack, could they add a cornerback? You know, I mean there's a couple.

I mean, I don't know, you know, we every time we've ever seen the Cowboys and the Giants match up with the questions have always been can the Giants hold up? You know in the secondary? You know, the front seven

linebacker has been some issues as well. Yeah, no doubt. So, uh you know, I just if you had to just guess and just go ahead and throw on your your guessing hat, do you have you have somebody in mind that the Giants might take here, either one of you, I think, Okay, if it's not going to be offensive, line, which I don't think it will be. Um, I think

you look at the secondary. Yeah, I mean you have to look at uh, you know, Vernon Hargraves is there, William Jackson, Eli Apple, you know teams Uh, you know, the corner is a premium position in the NFL, and so it wouldn't shock me if any of those three players is the name here. I completely agree. But I mean to go back to Tunsil and maybe he's not the pick, but if he is, I mean it's a copycat league. You've seen how much credit the Cowboys have

gotten for what they've done in their line. Yeah, you add him to Eric Flowers and um, Justin Pugh. You've got three premium talents on that line. And it's a similar situation to the Cowboys, I believe. I think if Tom Coughlin was still coaching there, I think you would see them try. Tom Coughlin has come out several times after the games when the Cowboys and Giants had played, and they've talked about, Hey, that is Tom Coughlin's like wet dream is having that many first round picks on

the offensive line. Absolutely, absolutely, but I kind of I really do like where the direction to Dane's going though with that with the secondary. You know, Miles Jack would be I think there's just questions now with the microfracture and that the possibility of that, and think he's tried to be very honest about that and and that team, you know, and at some point in time, we're gonna call his name in this draft, and maybe we call it here at ten, but you know, we're gonna call

it tonight. We're gonna call it tonight though, And and but here's the Commissioner Canada. We still gonna get the commissioner or we you know, no commissioner. So the Commissioner Goodell is gonna make the trip. We're gonna we're just still working on getting Zeke. I have a feeling a lot of people want to talk to Zeke tonight. Yeah, so we're working on all that right now. Commissioner in fact is making the pick, and we're gonna get across

the screen. We will get the scroll. It looks like the Apple three buck guys top ten And how about that mentioned the secondary and how important that was Eli Apple. When you look from a height, length, speed standpoint, it's all there. What you look for in a cornerback. Does he hold too much? Yes? Is he always supplended some areas, Yes, but that's coachable. And this is a twenty year old player who has a lot of potential and has what you can't coach. The things that he needs to work

on are fixable. And so for the Giants, you know, they get a very young player they can groom in that defense. Yeah, Dan, I thought you made an excellent point about him. He is a holder, a grabber, but he is very physical as has the tackles former teammate twice a year. Yeah, and hopefully he won't do that very well. So Cowboys, less than a third of the way through the first round, three buck guys off the board. Yeah,

and I would say maybe I'm wrong. Apple was maybe one of the ones that was you weren't sure that he would even go in the first round. Yeah, I think it just it's hard to see guys or teams passing on, you know, guys with this talent, the raw talent. He does need a lot of work, but you know, some questioned him coming out of Ohio State as a redshirt sophomore, but all the talent is there and here he made a great, great decision as a top ten pick. Yeah, and then uh, you know the things I just looking

through my notes about him. You know, we talked about him having to make the tackle. I saw that he could hold the edge, and but there's some snaps where you see separation with him down the field, you know, when he's not holding. So Dane's right, though, you can you can teach this kid. I'm not gonna act like, Hey, I'm not gonna act like he came from some small school. He came from Ohio State and so he knows how

to play football. They will have to work with him on his technique and uh and hopefully for him that he can come around and not be a guy that holds every single play three hours ago. Would you have guessed Eli Apples off the board before Laramie Tunsel. No. I would not have guessed that Eli Apple would be off the board before Darren Lee, another Ohio State buck guy. I mean point the Laramie Tunsel stuff is really fascinating now. You know, we saw it last year with Lyle Collins.

A different situation obviously, but another SEC tackle now is falling down the board. What's his floor? I mean, there's no way to predict this right now. You know he could I'm not even gonna try and guess, because he could go on at this pick right now, he could fall out of the first round. There's no way to truly know where Lamie Tunsel's going to land. Bill Abraham makes a fantastic point on Twitter that Eli Apple can't cook though, Like why are they taking what are they doing? Yeah, well,

Tampa Bay is on the clock. This is a trade that they made with Chicago. Chicago did at this time own the eleventh pick. Now this pick belongs to the Buccaneers. And just looking at my draft board, I've got three second round guys going off the board if you look at it, Stanley, Floyd, and Apple. So you know, I mean, maybe maybe I'm the one that needs to have my head examined here, but I would have surely believed that a guy like Hargraves would have gone earlier. You know,

We've talked about Miles Jack and his situation. You know, I've just kind of to be honest, I'm not too surprised about Hargraves, just because I think his size really hurts him. Yeah, you know, he's such a competitive player, he's such a natural cover man. But I think just the way the game is leaning right now with corners, teams want those bigger guys, and so Hargraves, he's not gonna have to wait much longer to come off the board. But you know, Hardgraves, it seems like it seems like

Tampa Bay, this seems like to be the pick. Yeah. I mean, because we've everybody's kind of mocked U Tampa Bay too, Hard Graves. That was where that was the spot that he was going to land. So they get the guy they wanted all along while adding a pick. Absolutely, you know, if you look at if you look at the Buccaneers, I mean it's inside, outside, defensive line play, an offensive tackle, a corner, could all be you know, if not Um, if not Tampa Bay, I'll tell you

you're coming up on two others. I think Miami would probably love to have him. He's a Florida guy. Yeah, so yeah, no, absolutely, yeah. Well I it just this whole thing with with tunsl has got me, you know, because we you know, again we're we're evaluating the player. Now. Now all of a sudden, the teams, you know, are hearing these things, they're seeing these things. Who's the first team that's gonna not be scared. You know who is the first team, and you know that we'll say, you

know what, the talents too much. We just we'll figure this out. We're just gonna draft this game. We'll never know if this video that came out ten minutes for the draft, if if that has affected how the teams have been drafting. Obviously teams knew something was going on ahead of time. This isn't a complete shock, but where teams are more comfortable before this video came out, Now the videos out there thinking, you know what, we were already kind of on the fence before. Now we just

can't take them. And there have been some reports that it was the step father that did leak it. Yeah, you know, Tom will tell how the true story behind that, but those are what the reports are. And it's Uh. The drama with Tunsil in the draft right now is just it's fascinating and terrible for him. Okay, the picks

in for the Buccaneers. We get back to that talk about though we've we've mocked hard Graves to the Buccaneers, right, that's kind of been one of a theme that you've had talk about Hard Graves though, as a player for what the Buccaneers are going to get ultra competitive. You know, he's he's a natural, instinctive player. He's a coach's son, grew up around the game. Uh you know, and those sounds like cliches, Yeah, but it's the truth. I mean, he really grew up around the game. And you can

tell his smarts in his leadership. As a true freshman at Florida, he really stepped into a leadership role and you saw that developed the last three years for the Gators. Really tough. He's not the biggest, not the fastest, but he understands how to play the positions bracket receivers. He has ball skills, so I think besides not having elite a straight line speed and elite size length, he's a very good corner who's deserving of the first round, top

fifteen and yeah, I makes sense here. Yeah I had him. I had him as I had him as the best corner in the draft. Again, I had Jalen Ramsey playing as a safety and everything that Dane says, this guy doesn't normally travel. When you watched him at Florida, he normally didn't travel with the best receivers. He usually he just played on He normally just played on the left side.

And that's something that you know when you talk about these elite type, does that guy have the ability to go and take and take the best receiver out of the game, you know, And and with Hardgraves, I did. I will know said this though about him. I saw him get bullied a little bit by bigger receivers. And so Commissioner is making the walk to the podium. Kent Garrison, I think we're back at it. So here's Pittisure Roger Goodell. We're the eleventh pick in the two thousand and sixteen

NFL Draft. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Vernon and Hard Graves. There you go here it isn't. Hardgraves is the third corner off the board now because the Jaguars have said they will play Jalen Ramsey at corner. There you go. So Jalen Ramsey being the first Elapple's second. Now Vernon Hargraves at eleven. So you know it's for the for the Bucks, they're getting a very competitive player at a position of need. They need a corner for Hard Graves. He stays in this in the state of Florida, just

like Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, it goes to a good situation there. Yeah, new head coach there too. Apologies in advance for making everything about the Cowboys, but that's back to back corners that are going to have to find a way to deal with as Bryant this year. Yeah. Absolutely, Actually, I mean, I mean and the guy that we talked about might get bullied a little bit by size I mean bro

and Hard Greaves for sure. Right when the Bucks come to Dallas second to last game of the season, I believe right around there right now, towards the end of the season. Meanwhile, Eli Apple's first NFL assignment will probably be des Yeah, so that'll be a matchup that we all look forward to. Okay, the New Orleans Saints are on the clock. Uh if the first time, this is

where I think Miles Jack. Yeah, this is where I think Miles Jack is involved right here, And I'm very very interested by that, that whole thing with where Miles Jack is going to end up, right, And I think, yeah, this we talked about, this champaign will take a risk. Well, and you look at what the where the Saints are with Drew Brees, they probably have a two year window. They need a win now and they need defensive help. And so you know, forget the long term Miles Jack

and help you right now. Maybe that is the direction they go. They definitely have to go defense. They've been talking about maybe Paxton Lynch here. You can't rule anything out, but they need defensive help in the worst way. So when you look at the top defensive players on the board, you know you're looking at Miles Jack, Sheldon Rankins, Shaq Laws, and Darren Lee. So I think one of those players

has to be the pick here for the Saints. Yeah, and it's they can the Sean Payton is he's clearly he runs the player personnel department right there with the Saints, and you know it's uh, you know, he's he's taken a role in that and he's not afraid to take a player with a little bit of a risk. You know, if he feels like that that player, uh could help

him win football games. He's won a lot of games for the New Orleans Saints and so he has that opportunity, has that big stick, and he will find a way to use it. And if in fact, like I said, I was just hearing from a lot of people in the NFL. This is the spot where Miles Jack could very well go. This is you know, they were hopeful that Miles Jack would somehow make his way down the board to them and that they would go ahead and make this pick. They've got four minutes in fift seconds.

Kent was telling me my ear that we Gary Brown, the running backs coach for the Dallas Cowboys, UH, will soon join us here. That's fun on headset. And that'll be an excited to get and yeah and uh and we will get a little bit his insight on what he thought about Ezeko Elliott, how excited he has, how the other running backs will fit uh in the mix, and and and that'd be really some nice insight for you there. Okay, once again, the New Orleans Saints on

the clock, four minutes, twenty seconds left. Uh. You know, if you look at like I said the team needs for the Saints, this is a guy I mean, you know you saw him linked to Paxton Lench here the last one. I just don't know this, just don't know that the need and you know, some Cowboy fans will probably say this about the Cowboys, right The need for defense on this team is absurd. They could have used

Apple or Hargraves. They could use a pass rusher. How about Rankings here, Yeah, Rankings has probably been the name for them. Over the course of the draft. You look at you know, every team sees changes in their draft pick, it's been Rankins like eighty five percent of the time

every mock that I've ever looked at. Sheldon Rankins one of the best three techniques in this draft and blosive up the field right, and he has versatility too, And he played some five mostly five technique at Louisville and they're they're hybrid three four, So the Saints run a little bit of a hybrid as well. I think, yeah, he would fit really well as a three technique and then also play him a little bit in the five, play him a little bit on the outside. He can

play over the tackle. He could do a lot of things for you. Yeah, And so Saints can go a lot of different directions. Again, we think that they're gonna go defense. That Dave even brought up the fact that maybe could this be a landing spot for Paxton Lynch be thirty seven year old Drew Brees or do they address it later in this draw? How about another of our of my favorite guys, the Saxon Lynch. Wasn't your

favorite guy? The Saints parted ways with Marcus Colston this offseason. Yeah, maybe they want a big bodied receiver who goes in the top half of the draft. Yeah, there you go. That would be not a bad idea. That's something that they're trying to help Drew Breese with a little bit. I think Saints fans would be apoplectic if the Saints drafted Laquon Treadwell that apoplectic that means mad. Sorry, okay, I'm sorry. That with the same university as I know,

I know. Did you know what that meant? No? Hell no, I didn't know what eli apoplectic. That's about it. That's a ten dollar word and we need to be using like fifty cent words. Yeah, if you look at if you look, they got a good young core receivers. If you think about it, though, Cooks, Coleman, Snead, could they add another one? I mean, bigger body. Goat Marcus Colston and Drew Brees. I feel like invented that back shoulder fade that that teams love to use so much these days,

exactly with Marquis Colston gone. They need that big body tread well fits the bill. So I think that's another name you have to think of here. Yeah, well the I I really I expect it to be defense if I'm guessing though, Yeah, I think that Again. We've talked about the possibilities Miles Jack. We've talked about ranking you know, man that that that's a nice player fallunteer right there, you know, at at that twelve spot if in fact, but we've kind of thought that's where Rankins was going

to be. Shack Lawson was another guy that we thought might be some there somewhere between twelve and fifteen on the board, and he loved for Shack Lawson. Here they've got Cam Jordan, but I mean the junior gonna let thing blew up in their face. They could absolutely use a pass rusher um and honestly, I mean y'all correct, and they're they're a little bit of a hybrid team.

But I think Shack Lawson could probably stand up if they wanted him to, or no teams worked him out in that type of I don't know if I would definitely put him in that role myself. I think he's I think he could play either end. I think he I think he could play though as a you know, the Saints going back though to more of a you know, with Dennis Allen as a defensive corey. I mean we see more you know, four three stuff it used to be. It used to be though with Rob Ryan, you know,

one gap principles and that type of thing. Yeah, well, the the Saints have forty five seconds and is this and not to not to beat a dead horse, but Laramie Tunsil following this far down the board. I mean, it's gonna continue to throw things. And I mean the Saints probably had no intention of looking at tackle. They just drafted andrews Pete last year. But when a guy like this falls to you and you have a thirty seven year old quarterback, maybe you take a look. I

don't know. I mean they have they have Toronto Armstead too, so maybe that's not something they want to do. Maybe the talent is too too fantastic to pass up. Yeah, I just we we've we've thrown a lot of names at you right now, and and and that's and that's the great thing about this. And the Saints have to feel good about the names that are on that board. Sure, I mean we we we brought up we what do you have tunsil like on your board? Number four? You

have a number one and I have number four. Your number four and your number one player are still available at twelve. That's amazingable. Ye see, that's the thing about it, though, that I find it's we we watched the tape. We we look at you know, we don't get the access to player backgrounds and all this other mean, the medical stuff we get very very late. So you know anyway, but uh, I think we're making to stand up right there here we go. Put him right over there, Dane.

That'd be fine. You just put him right there. We're being joined. Yeah, here's the happiest man at Valley Ranch right now. Yeah. Coach coach Garry Brown welcoming running backs coach Gary Brown. Yeah, program, how are you, sir? I'm doing well. How's everybody good to have you here? Coach Dane Brugler, Dave Hellman, we're all we're all excited for you. A matter of fact. In war room cam, yeah, we

want to talk to you about this. Yeah. We saw you make an early appearance in war Room came you came in right around the start of the draft, and we were thinking, well, if coach Brown's in there, I wonder what that means. Yeah, yeah, well is that the b is that the basic gist of the conversation y'all had. Well, you know, I got called in by Coach Garrett and he asked me to do a you know, a favor for him. So I did the favor, and uh it worked out the way we was supposed to work out. Okay,

we're real quick though. We got coach here, we got now we got Zeke on the line too with us, so I mean he's going so Zeke, it's uh, it's Brian and the crew here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Welcome to the Dallas Cowboys for how you guys doing doing great? Thank you? We got we got your coach. Gary Brown's here with us, and I'll let Coach Brown start the start the talk here. What's going on? Zeke? Are you doing? Brown? I'm ready? You ready? Are you ready? Hey? Hey?

It's time to go out and do what we need to do? Oh hey, Zeke? When when the whole process, you know, Coach Brown got to got a chance to come to Columbus and work you out there and get to know you a little bit more and then you came in for the for the the thirty visits. Can

you talk a little bit about it? And I don't want to put you too much on the spot here, but you know with coach being here, but talk about just a little bit of a relationship you're able to develop with coach Brown here close Brown, we got along very well. You know I could sell that you gotta definitely the man all out of me and that's exactly what I want on the coach. Well that's you know. And and coach talk about you know what your thoughts

with about Zee, Well, I'll tell you. We went down to Columbus and uh, he was professional, he was ready to roll. He did everything that was was asked of him and didn't and didn't blink. And then we went to lunch. He was he was just a great guy. You know, he sat down, we talked about a lot of things other than football, and uh, you know, I knew this is the type of guy I wanted to

be around. And I went that guy in my room and I'm glad we got him, Coach, And you mentioned the room, I mean, uh, no shortage of talent there. You got Zeke you got another number four pick, and Darren McFadden you got a two time pro bowler. What I mean, what does this do do for y'all? Obviously, I mean you have so much talent, but just the

amount of ability that you have to work with. Well, I think what happens is I think that the room becomes better with Zeke and it's strong, but now it's stronger. I think we have a great mature room that's going to help Zeke develop. And you know, Darren, like I told Zeke before, Darren is a very mature man. He understands, uh, what it is to be a role model and in the leader in the room, and he's gonna do everything he needs to do to help Zeke get to where

he needs to be. Yeah, and I want to ask you, Zeke about the about the situation there, you know, and when we got to visit with you at the combine, we were all very excited to see you up on the podium and talk about you know, you take a lot of pride and the type of physical player you are,

the blocking and all that. And I know watching coach Brown coaching, he coaches these running backs hard on that blocking though, But talk about how much pride you have in You know, everybody knows you run the ball, you catch the ball, but talk about your blocking stuff. You know,

blocking the prior song is part of my game. When I got some while, I'll say that I I was a skinny neck seventeen year old team with a bunch of grown man so I don't figure out how much separate from these guys who are a bigger fass in song than me. And I was like, man, I'm not only lucky, I gotta I'm gonna play harder him and I'm gonna do what they don't want to do. Right, That's that's what came block and uh at that planet side, I

was gonna become the best blocking and that's all that did. There. You go, Zeke, we got we got you on the line and coach you obviously played running back in your day. We've heard so much over the last few years about devaluing the running back position. We see Todd Gurley go ten last year. Zeke obviously at four. I mean, what does that say to y'all about what NFL team is about? Think about running back? I think what happens is you get they get devalue when you don't have them, you

know what I mean. It's like, if you don't have one, you don't really think you need one. You don't need one till as third one. You don't need one until it's goal line. You don't need one to you need to grind the ball out in four minutes. So that devalue thing I think is overblown. I think when you have talented runners, you take them where they need to be taken. Zeke obviously deserved to go at four. He went at four, and they're going to be more guys

that go. So uh. The running backs are making a comeback. That's all I can see, you know. Gurley got it started last year, Gordon got it started last year, and we're gonna, you know, with Zeke going, we're gonna try to get this thing back strong again with the backs. It's great. Well, hey, Zeke, thank you so much for joining us again. We look forward to seeing you when you get to Dallas and uh and uh best of luck to you and look forward to it here. Wait,

Coach Brown's got one more thing to say. Yeah, Zeke, hey, I text you. I know you don't know the number, all right, it's a five seven zero number hitting me back. Don't they don't avoid me? All right, Zeke, thank you so much for joining us for look for to seeing we get the Valley Ranch. Okay, all right, thank you? All right. I mean talk about the process though a

little bit. Okay. I mean it was you know, there's a lot of quality backs and and and you know, it's not often like David was saying, it's not often that that the running back gets to go. I mean, we've seen what happened with Murray and the money and all that. I mean, you must have made a hell of the pitch to get this. Well. I think he did most of the work. He put it out on tape.

I was just able to you know, put it together and put it into a tape and in my words, my report that you know, uh, that the guys that were making the decisions could see it and understand what he would mean to our football team. I think what's going to happen is and Coach Garrett has said it all along. This guy's gonna help every fastival food absolutely so. Um, you know, it wasn't it wasn't just me, it was

everybody on board. The whole coaching style was on board, and we just wanted this guy because we felt that he could help our whole team, not just the offense. Coach, we know that he's very well arounded as a player. What do you think he does best? I think he's probably the most complete babb in coaching NFL for eight years. He's the most complete back that I've been able to scout. Ye. Now, when I say complete, he can catch, he can run, he can block, he can run routes from any position

on the field. He's the most complete guy I've been around eight years doing this. So when you get guys like that and you get an opportunity to get him, you gotta go get him because they're going to elevate everything around you. Now, Coach Brown, thank you so much for this one of the folks. If you ever have the opportunity we're out at training camp or whatever, you get to see Coach Brown coach him up. He's one of the good ones. He's a teacher and he'll get

all he can out of him. I've got to. I mean, it's not a surprise to you, obviously. I mean this is such an intensive process. You guys went to Columbus all that good stuff, But when you got the call from Jason to come into the war room. I mean, what was what was your thought process? What were your emotion? It's pretty excited when they called me, and I figured, well,

it must be close to picking him. So when I went in there, you know, he asked me to do a favor for him and I did the favor, and yeah, I felt really good after I did the favor. So can you can you tell us feel good? Can you tell us what the favor was? Well, it was just a calling just to call him, see where he was, see if anybody was trying to talk to him or trade up or whatever, like dad, get a feel for him.

And that was it. It was nothing really major. But when I've heard his voice and heard the excitement and I heard Jason's excitement, it really made me feel good they were gonna be able to get the special guy. Well, coach, thank you so much for joining us for aciate. Absolutely congratulational and getting your guys. Absolutely it's gonna be Jerry Brown the most interesting position to watch absolutely boys campus year.

Thanks again, coach, we appreciate that. Okay, we're gonna have some We're gonna have some press conference stuff coming up. Just to just to recap here at the Saints in fact, didn't make the pick of Sheldon Rankins at twelve. Laramie Tunsel picked with the Dolphins thirteen. So Laramie Tunsel goes from Sheldon Rankings. So thanks everybody to thank Zeke, Thank coach. That's a lot of juggling going on there. Thanks everybody, Kent you guys in there for getting that all done.

We're gonna we're gonna look at going to UH to the press conference coming up with UH with UH with Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett. That should be coming up momentarily. Again. The picks has just been made. Eli Apple ten to the Giants, Vernon Hargraves eleven to

Tampa Bay Sheldon Rankings. The very talented defensive tackle from Louisville goes to the Saints and then the Miami Dolphins in the weight and the agony of Laramie Tunsel, the offensive tackle from Old Miss. The talent is just too good to pass up to sin and and that's and that's that's one of those risk and reward we'll get. We'll get the story one day. It's nice to see as an LSU man and they'll always cheer for an

old miss guy. But right there, I'm happy for that kid because I know it was a very difficult time for him sitting there and watching that all transpire. He looked like he was having a rough go of it when the cameras were cutting to him during that whole process. Okay, the Oakland Raiders are on the clock right now. They've got four minutes and forty seconds, Dane, he's your number one player, Tunsil on your board. Talk about the talent

that we see in Laramie Tunsil. Yeah, it's it's a situation here where he was the best player that I've scouted in the last year playing and simple top draft eligible player. In my opinion, some guys were born to be left tackles, and that's Laramie Tunsil. It's just so natural for him. His body control, as athleticism both in his kick slide and also his ability to mirror in space, his ability to reset on the move, plays with power, plays with quickness. Again, he just has everything you want

in a left tackle. You can plug and play for a long time. The question and the only reason he has fallen to this point is the character concerns and and the worry about you know, can you trust him? So time will tell if the Dolphins end up getting a steal at this point or if he fell for a good reason and the and the Dolphins are taking a risk here, well, you probably are going to get a player that has a chip on his shoulder right now.

And he has to be very relieved by this. And I'm sure that he's telling everybody they'll listen that he's ready to go to work and do what he has to do to be successless. League and Dane, I think you hit the nail on the head with this player, you know, And and he is a when you watch him play out of a two point stance, he is he is tough. I mean he is. He is a When he sets on you, he gets his arms extended.

He's very athletic, his footwork is outstanding. A little trouble when he gets a little too high with his with his set. But other than that, man, he is a guy that is an all day sucker when it comes to having to play against him. So the Miami Dolphins got damn a very very good football. Yeah, there's no question. And with Tunsil, I don't think this is. This isn't a bad guy. It's more of a decision making issue. This is a player who was suspended seven games as

a junior for nca in fractions. Uh. You know, he has dealt with some injuries and you know he's currently in a family situation, and you don't want to when you're drafting a player. You don't want to bring that drama into your locker room, into your franchise. You want to draft a player that's going to represent your team and your organization with the ultimate class. And Tunsel is a I believe in him as a person. You know, I've talked to enough people that I think he's a

good person. It's just the decision making. Can you trust him? And so it's a risk at this point, but I think the reward is worth it. Yeah, And I dave any thoughts on Laramy tunsel I and I you know, I'm reading I'm reading my Twitter feed with with all of this stuff that's coming out since then, and I think the Dolphins are going to come out of this looking all right. To be totally honest with you, like, yeah,

you've done your homework on this guy. What I mean, have we heard anything about a failed drug test, I mean at the combine or anything like that. The only thing that was alarming was the Kenichi thing. Was he was involved or not? He almost pronounced that right by the way, almost Kenichi kimchi Chi. Yeah, just act like the inn isn't there. I didn't. I tried not to, but I was just excited to try and get the

word out. It is concerning. And yeah when that when when kim Diechi talked about him at the combine, it was but there's no no red flags have actively happened that we know about during this process. Uh, it doesn't. I mean, it doesn't sound like this video was filmed today or anything like that. Uh. And so I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, you know, but I just have a feeling that Dolphins are going to come out of this feeling pretty good about this. Okay, the Oakland Raiders are

on the clock. The pick is going to be in. And even if they don't, sorry, but even if they don't, you talk. I mean, Gregory was worth the risk at sixty tons is widely considered the best player in this entire draft, all the way down at thirteen. I think it's worth the risk. Yeah, absolutely, I'd say, so Raiders on the clock or a sum pick is in for the Raiders. We'll see which direction they go, lineback or inside defensive line help potentially and potentially are running back

any direction? You think that anybody as you look at your board, is there somebody that that we've talked about Miles Jack? Say they brought in Miles Jack for a workout, so they they've done a lot of work on Miles Jack. I think, you know, this is the range where we could see him off the board. Reggie Raglan can be that inside linebacker they've been looking for. It looks like we have the pick. Yeah, Commissioners going to the podium right now, and we'll see Raiders Raiders at the pick

number fourteen. Here we go, with the fourteenth pick in the two thousand sixteen NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Carl joseph Is. That is surprised to me. It's very surprising, and like right before the draft started, I was like talking to Dan, I was like, you think he sneaks into the first round. Do you think you think maybe they'll be there? He was like maybe. I mocked him at twenty one in my final mock draft I did think he would sneak into that first round, but it

is surprising to see him go top fifteen. This is an undisciplined version of Earl Thomas is who he is, and he's also coming off major knee surgery. So right, those are the red flags. But you know the pros with Karl Joseph as the dude flies all over the field and he flies around with reckless of bandon. He is a missile. He'll knock you into tomorrow. He's that

type of player. So I get it. You know, if you're going to draft him this high, you have to kind of ignore the negative because he's going to miss some tackles and at that size, the way he plays the game, how long can he hold up? Does he have the durability to you know, be a seven year pro. I'm not convinced because he is a little undersized and

the violent way he plays the game, he's welcoming. He's going to welcome injuries, and so I have some questions about the pick, but hey, it's a chance to risk, and the Raiders that their track record in the first round the last few years has been very good, and so uh, it's going to be interesting. To see him. Well, the Hayden pick wasn't good has been good for him if you know the last two two drafts. Right, absolutely absolutely,

you're right about that. And I and I'll tell you what I I thought that maybe that we were talking about Karl Joseph at thirty four. Maybe that was what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe maybe that was. I think somebody on our staff mocked him at thirty four. Maybe not today, but in the last week or so, right, I mean I always assumed he was somewhere in that twenty five to forty range. I'll tell you what you do. Watch

him play, though he is a blur on tape. He comes flying forward, He's very physical and but I will say this though he will also miss Big two. He will he will, he will come for and you'll see him just flat missed the guy and it missed the ballcare in space. But when he when he connects X, it's a knockout blow. There's no doubt about that. A little bit of breaking news that Zeke Elliott is wearing number twenty one. Hey, huh, there we go. I was

gonna say, he's gonna have to buy that off. Terrence mention or number fifteen in college, and we wondered, you know, and talk about twenty two, talk about you know, maybe twenty five, but twenty one. Okay, if fits him, So here we go. If he yeah, twenty one. So everybody out there order your Zeke jerseys in the I don't think we can cut them in half. We can't crop him. I kind of I wish I was a Cowboys fan, because I would you get a Zeke jer would absolutely go I only get to hit you in the face

on Twitter if it was at thirty four. Right, you're done. You can't hit me. I actually tweeted, I said, if you're gonna hit me, it's not gonna be because of that. Maybe you'll hit me by the end of the draft, but it won't be because of Zeke. Well that's that's the pro shops missing out if they don't release some kind of crop top. Right, Yeah, I apolize on that. Hey, he's a pro athlete. Now, Zeke would be crazy if he doesn't try to make a crop top. He can

make his own. He can make his own. I'm sure those in practices that will be a big part of his wardrobe. So let's recap though the last say the last five picks. Karl Joseph goes to the Oakland Raiders at fourteen Laramie Tunsel the fall stops from him for him,

excuse me at thirteen to the Dolphins. Sheldon Rankin's a very talented three technique for the New Orleans Saints at twelve, Vernon Hargraves the quarterback from Florida at eleven, and then Eli Apple, the cornerback from Ohio State, goes to the New York Giants. The Cleveland brown This is going to be interesting because on the clock there's a few options here. Wide receiver is the most glaring need on the roster besides quarterback. They need playmakers, and they have their choice

of all the receivers on the board here. It's also possible landing spot from Miles Jack. They've done a lot of work on Miles Jack as well, so that's a possibility. So the Browns whun't shock me if they traded back again. So a couple of different things could be in the works here. Okay, well that's uh, you know, I'm I'm

interested because they're gonna finally pick. I think they're gonna stand in makeup and the Browns finally have to add somebody today, they've had they've had a Hey, you know what the way this has all gone, I mean, there's still a lot of good players there. Let me ask you guys a question. If you're with we've seen the war room cam is covered, look like there's anybody in there. Yeah, and oh, well they're doing their press cout right, But do you whitpoint time do we reconvene in that room

and maybe think about jumping into this draft? Well that if that's the case, people are asking me. People are asking me, well they're doing what are they asking you? They're doing their press conference? Right, So does that mean they're done? And I don't think so. I think they probably want to get this thing out of the way. Yeah, we're not even halfway. Well, we're just about halfway through the first round. Yeah, I want to I just they're gonna get this out of the way. They'll probably take

them a half hour. They'll get back right around the time like the twenties are starting, and then they can see what they see and decide if they want to try to do so in the in the In the the mock draft we did yesterday, we talk talked about that one of the scenarios was would you be willing to part ways with what are your picks? Say one oh one to get back in And we we identified some teams as Seattle at twenty six, Green Bay at

twenty seven, Kansas City at twenty eight, Arizona at twenty nine. Yeah, would you be willing to part with that? And uh? And I think the all right, I mean you look at it. Who on this board, Who's who's left that needs to make a pick that might want a quarterback? Well that Cleveland, Cleveland, Uh, the Jets, you got, Arizona, Yeah, Denver. So three or four teams could be could be the case. What you you talked about Cleveland? You you're really wired

to Cleveland. Yeah. And you brought up receiver though, go through your receiver. I'm sorry. Um. Brandon George of the Dallas More News is saying cowboys are postponing their press conference, okay, and you can see some people are kind of filtering back. Okay. Maybe maybe they get something. They're gonna hang out and see maybe that if there's something worth seeing on the trade. You don't talk about the commissioner's walking in, But I thought it was an interesting point, they do not have

any receivers do that? They don't. They need a wide receiver. And so do you go the big possession type try well, you go to Speeds or Corey Quill See what sixteen NFL draft the Cleveland Browns on fire the pick? I mean, that's to me, he was the number two receiver in this draft. I'm not surprised to see him go off the board first he went, I haven't high. I have a Kuan Trade will hire as well. But I think for the type of wide receiver you're looking at, Corey

Coleman wins at all levels. He can win in a short, intermediate, and deep. He needs to learn the route tree. There's no question about that coming from the Baylor offense, right. But you know, a player with that talent and that competitive temperament, I think it's just a matter of time before he finds success and you know, you look at it he does. Steve Smith comparisons are rampant when you

talk to people in the league about Corey Coleman. The size, but his ability to play above that size, hit, the way his anger, the way he plays, fit, tough and physical. It fits Corey Coleman. So for the Browns that need a playmaker. I love the pick. Yeah, it's actually I love two things. One you were Baylor Pro day, weren't you. I met Corey Coleman actually talked to him. He is a Dallas native. He grew up a Dallas Cowboys fan. I wrote a whole story about it. He is I I.

He's a confident kid on top of the talent. He's already a Jordan guy. You know it took Deaz's years to get to that point. He has absolute confidence in himself. I like his demeanor a lot. I came away from meeting him and talking to him and watching him work out very much reminded of Odell Beckham. I don't know if he'll be O'Dell Beckham, but he certainly has. Get to see this year. How about this? You know Robert Griffin the third Uh, he leaves Baylor two two eleven

for the twos and twelve draft. Corey Coleman is the Baylor in twos and twelve. So they just missed each other. Right for Corey Coleman, he had to be a little bummed missing RG three. Now they're gonna be teammates in Cleveland and he's gonna catch a few touchdown passes from RG three for the Browns. Okay, that means now the

Detroit Lions are on the clock. Uh man, the Lions kind of now in the middle of really the draft here, and if we look at their team needs and what the time, big time favor to take a tackle offensive tackle? Humh yep, do you have one in mind, Dame Burglar? Well, there's only one left, I say, Taylor Decker. I mean it makes the most sense. He can play left tackle,

right tackle. Uh. You know, a guy that might not be in terms of athleticism, might not might not be the most explosive, might not have the best range, but when he has a chance to sink anchor and neutralize quickness, uh, you know, he's he's a really good player, and so I think he's a plug and play. He might not have that high ceiling that you want right but he can play right now and he's going to be an

NFL starter for a Yeah. The team needs number one that offensive tackle left or right major weakness, you know, they need to They need to find a way to shore up that position. And from what everybody's talking about here, the last tackle on the board for you that could be in this consideration would be Taylor Decker. So let's see if in fact that the Lions do make that pick. And remember in this draft, if you don't have that tackle, you have to get them early because they're gonna fly

off the board here. This, you know, will be the fourth tackle in the top sixteen. So we're midway through the first round. Four tacklers are gone, and I think there's a good chance we see six offensive tackles drafted by the end of the night. Jermaine Effetti definitely a name to watch here. But if again, if you don't get your tackle early, you're gonna be in trouble. So look for the Lions to address that number one need.

They also have needs on the defense defensive end, right, They could address a few other spots, but tackle Taylor Decker. It's gonna be tough to pass on a player like that. Yeah, I think it will be too. I like what you're saying about Deck. I saw a guy that I thought was a very good athlete. You know why. A nice bass player, technically sound, you know, he fights to sustain, drive guys off the line. When he gets that double team situation, seals down can you know, can take away

the corner. He's just he's a very good athlete. When you watch him play the I mean the head's not down, he doesn't play with the tops of his feet. His head's back and he's extending and he's staying in position. Okay, Commissioner Goodell's making that walk. Let's go to him. Taylor Decker. With the sixteenth pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select Taylor Decker. Hat away, boys, good job, Buckeye number four, the boar, here we go. Yeah, Taylor Decker.

And we talked about him. We talked about all the strengths about him. Uh, Like I said, yeah, Buckeye number four. If I'm not more, and then Darren Lee here should be number five. Yeah, and then it's the question do they get number six? Yeah. Fascinating for me is that I think maybe one of the most obvious needs in this first round is that the Colts need help on

the offensive line. Yes, wiped out at tackle. Yeah, and they were just kind of not they just they're one of those teams that didn't, you know, didn't seem like they appear like they wanted to move up. Yeah, and get now, like Buddy, Tommy Dimitroff, the general manager, the Falcons are on the clock. Linebacker is a need? Is you you're talking about Lee? Weren't you there, Dame Burglar? But Mile Jack? That's what I'm saying. Will they take

a chance? Linebacker? Safety, defensive line? Help right there? They they passed rush needs is a strong priority. This run stopper inside the Babineaux is a thirty five years old. So let's see. I mean, you know, linebacker, safety, defensive line. When we're talking about how fast, I mean, Miles Jack? Could that be the guy you talk about? Buck Eyes? Darren Lee has been a popular pick to go to the Falcons. They need a linebacker. You follow all those

mock drafts, Miles Jack is the best linebacker? Right? Do you run that risk at seventeen? That hey, we'll deal. I don't know, I mean, at what And that's fascinating to me, Like, at what point does he become worth the risk? Maybe it's here? Yeah, Well let's see, I'm looking right now into the Falcons war room. Tommy d My buddy is on the phone right now, so he's probably talking to his pick about five minutes thirty seconds

left before they have to hand that in. So h we'll see if if in fact that they're they're trying to make a deal like David said, or are they going to stand in here and pick a linebacker. I have an update on the press conference is going to be ninety minutes from now, so maybe we're trying to get Wow damn, that's okay. Yeah, press conference is if a ninety minutes from now, would put it at ten thirty Central time, So we'll cover that here on Stars

dot Com. Sorry English fans. Yeah, hey, by the way, thanks for all the English fans. We shot out to Dan Turner who joined us at the combine. We got people listening Lauren in the UK, Jamie all those. We got people listening in Denmark, Larria, Australia, Ireland. Yeah, probably every state in the US. If I had to guess, thank you folks for saw Mexico. Yeah, yeah, tweet us

where you're from. If you're listening from Afar, that'd be awesome. Um. I've meant to make this point fifteen minutes ago, but it's hilarious to me. Carl Joseph and Corey Coleman, at one point in time were both popular picks for the Cowboys at thirty four, sure off the board at fourteen and fifteen. Yeah, well the Falcons. Uh, the Falcons pick is in. We've talked about their team needs linebacker, safety, defensive line. Any anybody strike your fancy out of those

three positions. When we talked about the linebackers, we talked about shuck. Could we see another roost? Can we see another safety out of it? Is there? Is there? Von Bell? Is there? Somebody on? O'Neill has been talked about as possibility, you know, talk about him a little bit though he's the play he's been getting a lot of popular praise here lately. He's a decleter. He's a guy that plays me. He does he wants. He's an angry guy. He does.

But he also tested really well and so even though he's known as a downhill guy, I think he showed the athleticism that you want to see from a safety to hold up in coverage. And so I think Keyan O'Neill, who was invited to Chicago for the draft, uh, not a lot of people saw him as a first round pick, but the Falcons have done a lot of work on Keyan O'Neill, and they were linked to them maybe in the second round, but if they want Keyan O'Neill, now it might be the best chance they have to get him.

Do you like him better as a cover guy than say Joseph? I mean, do you do you get a guy that you feel like that you can do a little bit more within coverage? Well, you know, I think I'm not sure. I think he has the athleticism. I ask you a bad question. Well, it's Joseph. The way he flies around the field. I mean, I think that athleticism, that speed, that closing burst that he has, I'll take Karl Joseph in that respect. Sure, I'm not Yeah, But but

but the coverage part, the part Neil has. I think the way he tested and the way the potential that he shows, I think has teams really excited. The safety position alone, if you don't have a safety you're in trouble because at the position, how important it is these days. And if you have, if you have that speed, they're gonna go and get you. And so I think he could be in this first round range. Here in addition to everything else, I listed Hungary, Puerto Rico. Thank you, folks.

I appreciate that it's in the UK, it's in the KIND, it's in the US. But Hawaii, Yeah, way the hell out. We got a Germany. I'm really appreciate that. All that. Thank you so much for being a part of our draft coverage here. All right, well Dame spelled it out for you. We were thinking linebacker, we're thinking safeties, we're thinking defensive lineman here for Atlanta. I I you know, that's when you get to this point, we're starting to run out of names. I mean, well, it depending on

how your board is. Remember it's like for maybe eighteen first round names, maybe nineteen ye first round names. But I'm looking at my board, I've still got some first round guys, you know, with Dotson and Tread, Noah's Spence Billings read Jack Ragling. I mean, I've still got some first round cats that I could deal with right here. Sure, and they can go in a couple different directions here, because Atlanta does need and they have a few needs

in a few areas. They need a playmaker on defense though. I think that's what it comes down to. Is there a guy they seek that could be a playmaker. And you know, we've been saying it with Miles Jack you know, another boy possibility. But the knees the whole need, that's the whole thing. Okay, the commissioners making that walk, and we're gonna get Atlanta's pick here that would be picked number seventeen. Here in the first verse, seventeen will tend

back inside the auditorium tamer. With the seventeenth pick in the two thou sixteen NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Keanu Neil. Here we go defensive back, and I think for the Falcons, you know again these two, the player and the team have been linked in recent days. You thought maybe second round, but you know what, the Falcons they didn't want to wait. They get their safety, a guy that can maybe be that next William Moore for this team. Uh come up and hit you. But again,

he tested really well. Has the athleticis in the hold up and coverage as well. So, uh, the Falcons really needed a playmaker on defense and I think you know they believe they have that guy here. Yeah. And this this kid though, is like I said, he plays angry. I mean he'll miss a play and then the next

three plays he is trying to hurt somebody. So and his teammates get around him and trying career and he's just pushing guys away, like so, uh, Keyan O'Neil will go to the Atlanta Falcons here we talked about that. I am surprised, you know, to see a Keyan O'Neill go ahead of a Darren Lee or you know some of these other guys. Um, it's it's really a fascinating to see Neil go this high end. But it's it's it's preference at a position that's becoming more and more

important in the NFL and today's NFL. You need to be able to have a versatile safety. You know, we saw what Byron Jones did last year for the Cowboys. You need guys like that that can cover tight ends, that can you know, play single high, that can move up in the box. And I think the Falcons thing Neil is that guy that can do a little bit of everything for you at safety. Okay, now it looks

like the Indianapolis Colts are on the clock. Let's talk about team needs center and in guard, inside linebacker, and outside linebacker. Potentially as a rusher. We've seen before. I think this time last year, didn't the Lions I mean it was I'm wrong about this. They took a center. I mean, uh, I took Laken Tomlins and the guard. Oh, they took guard. So yeah, I mean, is this is the first spot I think we could see Ryan Kelly.

I'm gonna say, yeah, Travis Frederick syndrome. Yeah, how about you mean because we're at the end of the run. We've talked about the eighteen name run, potentially this could be one of those things where we really as a group, I think we really really do like Kelly, you know, as that guy. If you're gonna if if if their need number one need is and you're in the middle of that draft and it's center, this this pick makes a lot of sense to me. If in fact it

is Kelly. Cowboys got killed for taking Frederick at thirty one, which ironically enough, they were at eighteen or originally in that draft. Yeah. But I mean, for all the for as much as people want to dog the position, I think Travis Frederick has totally proven why like what that's worth and why it's something you should consider. I would I don't have a problem with that. If the guy is what they think he can be. Just taking a peek back over the shoulder, a lot of movement in

the world. Jerry Junior is Jason Garrett next to the board. The board they're looking at is the board of the actual draft. It's not any board of yeah, of where they're those the yeast questions about that. They their their board with their prospects is below the camera right you're to the Yeah, their person, their board, the two boards, the stack and the buy round is to the right of the screen where Garrett and Jerry Junior and Steven Jones and Jerry when they when they uncover, you probably

see over on the left a list of Yeah. And that's just what has actually happened. There's no secret information. No, that's that's the actual draft. That's from what's from pick one to pick two fifty three is what they're standing in front of right now. So if they're gonna be a maybe a tradeback situation we've talked about my buddy Mike mcagnet, he's coming up there at twenty would be you know, got a lot about that Jets pick. Yeah,

I talked a lot about that Jets pick. So you know, we could maybe that's a spot where they would get back in or could they wait like we talked about, and wait to the back end of that draft and one of those picks like we were talking about as well, the run of Seattle, Green Bay, Kansas City, all teams that will move. Okay, the pick is in for the Colts. Here's the commissioner, absolutely all right, Roger Goodell has the

Indianapolis Colts here at eighteen. With the eighteenth pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts select Ryan Kelly. Here we go center Alabama. If you're the Colts, you have to protect Andrew Luck. Yeah, you know he's been getting beat up and the tackles are off the board. Ryan Kelly makes sense here. Yeah, he's going to be able to stabilize the interior of your offensive line. Uh. This is just a no nonsense type of player, A smart,

a very natural center. I don't think he has, you know, the versatility to play guard. I think he's just he's a He's a smash mouth center. He's going to hitch you. He understands balance and leverage. So I really like what Ryan Kelly brings to the field. Dave say something nice about an Alabama man. I don't want to, but it just reminds me of the Zeke pick. And like I said a minute ago, the Frederick pick is I just oh,

that's that's awfully soon to draft a center. You know, I don't know about a running back that I mean, if he's the guy and he's gonna help your team, just take him. Yeah, and I don't care. We've seen the important don't care quote J Cutler. Yeah, he's gonna keep the pocket clean. Ideally, he's gonna give Luck more time. That dude has gotten killed the last two years. He didn't finish the year last year. Right, Yes, maybe it's

not a premium position. Well, I'll tell you what though, if you don't have one, good luck with all that. Andrew Luck has proven that, given time to work, he can drag a pretty sorry team to the AFC title game. Yeah, he did it two years ago. I'll see what I like about Ryan Kelly. He plays on his feet and and you know it, centers. You evaluate centers and their ability to snatch positions. And I'm talking about like that one technique playing inside shoulder or playing the three on

the outside shoulder. If you get a center that can snatch a three technique on the run, like like Ryan Kelly can do you need to draft that guy in the Indianapolis Colts got him a guy that can can in fact do that. He does a great job of playing on his feet. And Dane was talking about the balance and things like that as well. Back to that point, Andrew Luck is an athletic guy. I like his odds of being able to get away from outside rushers who

are coming around, you know, stepping up. If he and if you've got a clean pocket, he can make that work. I think it's a great and yeah, maybe eighteen is too soon for a center, but if it's going to make that much of a difference, who cares. Okay, we're at the nineteenth pick. It belongs to the Buffalo Bills. They are on the clock, followed by the New York

Jets and then again the Washington Redskins. So, by the way, Dane pour one out for me on my list of thirty one, I was just cruising Neil and Kelly both I didn't have them. Yeah, are you in that? Are you in the pool? I'm not in the pool. I just felt like doing it to see how I would do. I was fifteen for fifty is your number thirty? First player in your pool. I had Vernon Butler as the last guy that I put on the list. What about this, This isn't it's it's not an order, you know, I

don't have it picked by pick. But okay, I see, but Butler was the last guy that I wrote down that I thought would be a first round pick. Okay, another one. At this point, I'm starting to wonder if Billings will be there. I put him on the list too. Pittsburgh's a team that really they sent the army down there to work him out. Absolutely. Okay, Well, the Bills a three forty five left before they have to hand this card in. Uh, it looks like that the clock

has stopped for them, so that means they pick is in. Uh. Let's talk about the Buffalo Bills and where they can go, uh you know in there. Uh let me give you their team needs and you guys can kind of uh pontificate outside linebackers, some rushers, inside linebacker, quarterback, inside defensive line. Uh, could you you know, with some time of the Alabama guys, you know, interior defensive line, then you know, help with

a Shan Robinson, Jarren Reid or two possibilities there. We've mentioned Darren Lee as a player that is still available and that could help a club. Uh, you know, Rex, Ryan, he wants to get more guys for his scheme, his defense. Yeah, I think the Bill's defense really kind of let a lot of people down last year. A lot of people are expecting big things. Sure, Rex wants to get his guys on that defense, and so he has a chance to do that with this pick. Someone that could be

a playmaker. A couple options that we just mentioned will be available, so and this ring it out there, but packs the Lynch is still available too. Yeah, what about you? Fascinating It's funny and I always think of of Ryan and coaches and you know his love affair. Well, he's got a son. They have a sound that plays at clip. We talked about Jack Lawson and Jack Lawson still I've had him between twelve and fifteen. We're now at nineteen.

You know, we talked about defensive help. Really, I mean, for the I've kind of talked about this in the last few weeks that I don't think that the NFL loves shack Lass as much as maybe we did. I thought eighteen would be the earliest he could go, And you saw eighteen eighteen Atlanta. I thought would be to me, he was a top twelve guy on my board, right, But I think just talking to people around the NFL, you got the sense that he was not going to

go that high. Maybe eighteen would be the earliest. And here we are at nineteen. You know he would he would fit that defense with what Rex wants to do. Well, it's uh. I thought he was going to be more like a twelve. I thought he And then are the defensive tackle rankings. I thought we're somewhere in that twelve to fifteen range. Rankins went number twelve to New Orleans, a really nice pick on their part. Just to recap though the last several picks U Ryan Kelly, Well, let's

go the commissioner. The commissioners go into the podium. So let's see if we can get that potted up right now. I don't know if we're going to be in position to do that right now, but we'll see. Here's the Bills selection and the commissioners talking about it. Is the Buffalo Bills select. Very good? Shacked laws about that now we talked about we mentioned shack with the Saints, Yeah we did. And next, Ryan is the epito. I mean, he's a three or four guy. What are they gonna

do with this guy? I think that he's gonna I think that he's gonna play. He's two hundred and seventy pounds, Am I right about that? Dane? Probably six, he's like sixty three two seventy, you know, May I don't know if they he looks like a guy that they might. Maybe you see him play a little bit, uh, you know, do they try him at the five technique? He actually on the ground, yeah, Clemson right, you know, and teams

did work him out standing up. But I agree that he is best with his hand on the in the dirt. Give a chance to you know, use that power, use those ball instincts. It's just a very natural player at the position. So I am eager to see how they will use him in that scheme. But you know, if you have a chance to get a pass rusher, go and get him. And if Rex Ryan is a defensive genius that we all think that he's brother Rob's with him. Now they're gonna try and figure out how to use him. Yeah, well,

Shack Lawson is the pick. I thought, maybe you know, when I start I start playing connect the dots now because I'm running out of names. That maybe, but yeah, I mean, your list is getting smaller. And then and then, but I was sitting there thinking, Okay, who could Rob Ryan or Rex Ryan look at? And he has some familiarity with the Clemson program. He understands those guys and and Shack Lawson makes a lot of a sense for the fact that they have an understanding of what he

is is as a football player. Nothing against Kevin Dodds teammate, but you know, I'm just I'm glad to see I haven't gone crazy. So many people were telling me Kevin Dodd he's gonna go ahead of Shack Lawson. Shack Lawson is clearly the better pass rusher from Clemson any gay. Nothing against Kevin Dodd. I'm just glad to see I haven't gone crazy, and that Shack Lawson is the first

Clemson defensive end off the board. Okay, Well, now the New York Jets, and I was gonna say, no, I'm gonna do my knowing thing where I keep y'all and talking about the Cowboys instead of uh, this is a big pick for the Cowboys interest in getting a quarterback. Yeah, at number twenty. Yeah, I mean this is a prime I know, I think people have said, you know, maybe they're not interested in doing that in the first round. They still have Geno Smith, they still have things to

work out with Ryan Fitzpatrick. But this has long been a candidate to take a quarterback. And honestly, if they don't, where's the next one coming? You know, Arizona? Yeah, that thing about Let me ask you this though, and let me and you know, I totally agree with you on the quarterback thing. I wonder I'm just thinking about them with the offensive line situation and you know, we're talking

about Spriggs. You know, could this be the that that Okay, the tackle that's and again I don't know, I'm just looking at They had the head, they head, the guy retired. They traded for Ryan Clay, but Clady has not been reliable exactly. I mean that's yeah, exactly. So maybe I know that I'm throwing that out there, but I understand what you're saying about quarterback too. I totally what we've been saying about these tackles. If you don't get them early,

you're not gonna get them. So, you know, if if the Jets have an they're aye on a tackle here. I think that's certainly possible. We've seen four come off the board already. Yeah, I do think before the end of the first round, my guess is we'll see Jermada Fetti and Jason Spriggs come off the board just because we're gonna see that run on tackle. So I think that's certainly a consideration here for the Jets. I'm I'm fine with that. I mean again, I'm thinking, how what

which these teams are candidates. If the Jets don't do it for a quarterback or a quarterback, you could talk me into Pittsburgh doing it. Big Ben's an old guy and a lot of hits exactly. Yeah, Pittsburgh could do it. You could talk me into Arizona might be the Arizona and Divers probably the last two. If it gets to Arizona, that's worth that trade to me, the one that we've talked about. I mean, if if if Paxton Lynch is on the board when Arizona picks, there's a good old

mister mcack. Yeah, it's Mike mccagnandah my buddy Mike mccagney who I worked with in NFL Europe in nineteen ninety outstanding guy, outstanding general manager, he said, A nice job and the hardest worker he is. He is a grinder and so happy that he's now getting an opportunity to run a team. This will be a second year with the Jets. So let's see what direction to Jets fans have made the trip to Chicago. Looks like no their draft party, so that would be there at their headquarters there.

Shout out to Jets fans. It feels weird not having them in the audience. I love the Jets fans are in the audience. Guy, I love that. That's that's that's that's how I grew up as watching Jets fans boo their pick at Radio City. You know, it feels weird not to have them. Well, we got it'll be almost inside three minutes. Looked like everybody was using the phone right there to uh to uh make these to make the selections. So uh, we've we've talked about the possibilities

offensive line, We've talked about quarterback. We talked about it again. Mike told me if if Jerry and Stephen Jones wanted this pick, you know, come on up. You know it'd be happy to to talk to him. I mean, he wanted to collect some picks. There was some rumored speculation that maybe he was trying to get up in the draft to take one of these quarterbacks early. It didn't look he materialized. In talking to him as well, he said about the run again, the eighteen name run is

about end of it right here for him. So let's see what in fact happens. It looks like that. Well, they're moving around, moving camera angles like I thought maybe the commissioner was on his way. But I'm looking at my best available on my board. Miles Jack number one, Laquon Treadwell number two, Darren Lee number three. So three players that I guess I'm not shocked that they're not off the board. But those are three good players that

you know, playoff teams. Guy, A team's picking in the twenties, have a chance to go get better. Now, Yeah, well that's a you got number one Miles Jack and Miles Jack makes a little more sense because of the knee issue. I get right down there. But I mean, you look, I mean, Darren Lee is a guy. How about your boy, Noah Spense, Yeah, that would be I He's I've got

my one and my five available. If you really think about that team, a team with like playoff aspirations is going to have a shot at Noah Spense, Which that's scary, it's fascinating because again another one of these wild cards. The three main wild cards to me, Miles jack Bees an injury, Noah Spense because of the character, and then Paxton Lynch because there are it is such a wide range of opinions on Paxton and he's clearly talented, but

what's his value in the draft. And so it's gonna be really interesting over these last twelve picks to see where where or if Paxson Lynch goes well. A lot of times though they're teams that you know, those playoff

teams are good. They just sit there and wait and patiently have about two to three turkey sandwiches, a couple of diet cokes or a diet pepsi in the case in this building, and then and then you look at the board and you just and all of a sudden, you know, but Jaren Reid's still there, Reggie Ragland, William Jackson, you know, there's a lot of talented Josh Doson and we're about to probably see our run on wide receiver here coming up. Uh, you know, with the Texans, the Vikings,

and the Bengals all candids to take a receiver. Yeah. Interesting note from from Adam Schefter, And I mean we've heard about this. Shack Lawson will probably need surgery on his shoulder, right. Schefter says it'll sideline him four to six months, but he can probably wait until after his rookie season to have it. And that's been the debate because you know, Lawson has put off the surgery, put off the surgery, and so that's kind of been If he had had it right after the National title game,

he'd be fine. Yeah, yeah, and he decided not to. He decided, well and you wonder what if Clempson doesn't go to the national title game, does he maybe decide and just pull the trigger? But yeah, you know, because he he you know, went straight from the National title game to combine prep and so, uh, it really interesting dynamic with his shoulder and how that will play out here. You know, can't he get through the whole season, you know, without without reaggravating and being an issue for him as

a rookie. All right, Well, it looks like that the Jets pick is in. Uh and that would put Washington on the clock behind them. We were talking about the run potentially for some wide receivers. I know for a fact if you talk about Houston Minnesota. I was at the TCU Pro Day and Mike Zimmer was there to see Josh Dockson Commissioner Goodell making his way to the podium.

And this will be the pick from the New York Jets at number twenty, With the twentieth pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the New York Jets select Darren Lee. Yeah, we just talked about him and that there's the fifth Buckeye off the board in the

top twenty. For Darren Lee. You're getting a player who three years ago at this time was one hundred ninety five pound quarterback in high school, a player that Urban Meyer actually had to be convinced to give him an offer because they didn't know what to do with him. What position would he play, where would he fit? You know? He goes to Ohio, played a little safety, played a little corner as a red shirt, and then he at linebacker, took over for Ryan Shazier last season at that walkout

linebacker role and really blossomed and down those stretches. Freshman season in the in the playoffs against Alabama, against against Oregon, he was really a playmaker on that team, that Ohio State national title team. And then as a as a retro sophomore this past season, he was dynamic as well. So you know, he might not be the prototype in terms of size for the a linebacker, but he could do so many different things in terms of covering, in terms of range. He's that new age linebacker, a guy

that can you be that running hit. Everything you're saying makes it very obvious why Todd Bowles wanted this guy. No, but you think about what he's I mean, Dion Buchanan, yeah, Tyrone Matthew. Right, who's the other guy? I'm not thinking of the one that they put the tag on this year. I think, um, anybody for the Tony Jefferson is that I have that right? The Arizona guy safe he put the tag on. Point being is that they put a tender on him, is what they did. That's what I'm thinking. Regardless,

Bowls loves those type of guys. I mean, he's a linebacker who can rush the passer. He could probably play safety or something that they wanted to do. And that's and Top Bowls is so good with those types of guys. What the Cardinals have done with my boy the honey Badger is amazing. And obviously it's two different positions, clearly, but he loves those versatile kind of guys who don't really fit a role and not I that that sounds very fun to me if I'm in New York ches. Yeah.

The one thing, Darren Lee is a very confusing player to me, and I agree with everything you guys have said. You don't like him. I don't see a finisher all the time. I worry about him a little bit. I see a guy that runs like a son of a gun, I get it. I see him running for the back. Yeah, I see a guy that's that can do all those things. I did see him sometimes though, when the hole miss

some tackles. I did see him on the blitz, miss some guys, getting the quarterbacks on the ground, guys shake loose. I've seen him miss tackles in space as well. He can run, and I think that the I'm a little bit worried about him in the physical side of the game. I'm worried when he has to play toad to toad with somebody. Can he do that? How well? And you're right though, Todd Bolis likes that kind of player. You look at what he's done in Arizona. You looked at

what they've done with the Jets. It's the new age of defense in the NFL. Well, you know, but I I just like I said, I worry. I worry about him. I worry about him a little bit. Okay, is uh the the we got the Washington Redskins. We got the Washington Redskins are on the clock currently? Let's see who is on the Uh that would be Let's see did Houston move up? They move up one spot? I yeah, I'm having a hard time thinking Houston. Well, Houston might

be on the clock. Let's just see Houston is picking next. Let's see if in fact, who who is on the clock with this selection? Like I say, this will be this, this will be the timeline. Can help me? Yeah, the twenty first. This will be the twenty first pick. This would be the Redskins. Let's see where who flips? Oh? The Texans are now all right, so they just flopped they flop spots here, they just flop spots or so so what Okay, so Houston has long been mocked for

a receiver. I mean, they're one of those teams where the pick never changes, it's always a receiver. I don't get well, they got spooped. They got spooped about another team jumping up to get a receiver. Maybe, so they have their eyes on a certain receiver here, whether it's it's Will Fuller Laquon Treadwell. I think that they had their eye on a certain receiver. They did not want to risk it. They probably gave up a fourth or fifth round pick to move up one spot and secure them.

Do you think they were worried about Washington trading with somebody else, That's what I'm saying, Well that I have to think that because Washington doesn't strike me as a team that's going to draft the receiver. No, And well, you know, yeah, I think you're right. I miss. I'm just kind of thinking about, well, let's let's take a look at our handy dandy. Yeah, Dave's got our charts

working off here, inside linebacker, corner and safety. So, Dave, you make a great point there, Washington looking at inside linebacker, corner and safe and honestly, you look at Washington's needs defensive line. A lot of people talking about them taking a guy. I mean, there's there's some dudes they're worth liking, both both of the Bama dudes. They're still there. Um, well, Houston, we got Houston. We think is a receiver, right, we

think Houston is Houston's definitely going receiver here. That's been the speculation. I mean, you're always you're always bound for a surprise. Hey, maybe Houston's thinking they're lucky stars that Laquon Treadwell fell all the way to twenty one. Yeah, it sounds like to me, Houston says here looking to add a legitimate second receiver that can stretch the field in that point, the little fuller. Yeah. Um, but again I think they are looking for a specific wide receiver here.

You know, they weren't okay. You know, if if someone traded up to twenty one or Washington State at twenty one and took you know, a certain receiver, they weren't okay with just taking another receiver. They wanted a specific one. They only had to give a six round pick next year. Yeah, not this year. So we'll talk, okay, talk me through then if we if we think it's your receiver taught me through in their team needs. We just said, this

team needs to take the top off a defense. And that's what tell me about will full I mean, that's a player that secondaries have to worry about anytime he's on the field. He has that secondary burst down the field that most corners they just don't have an answer for that. There's nothing they can do to match that speed, that secondary burst. And there are some questions about will Fuller and his ball skills and his reliability body catch,

and oh yeah, he is a quarter in chance. I mean he has smaller hands um and that makes some place. Though Son makes some place. Notre Dame Houston went and they gave a lot of money to brock Osweiler. Right, a huge arm. You know, they need to let that Ferrari out of the garage. Let him, you know, stretch out that arm, throw some deep shots. DeAndre Hopkins is a legitimate number one, you know, Canny be a Let me ask you this. Do you like Fuller is a two?

I think he can be. Yeah, I mean I know I'm throwing it on you there, but I worry out of him as an underneath receiver, right, I don't see him running every single route. Again that he will have some focus issues, drop some easy throws, but the way he can strutch the field, the way defenses have to account for him on every single play, he's going to open things up for the rest of the offense. So

I understand the pick. I don't have him as highly rated as as I meant Treadwill Dotson, Michael Thomas in Those are guys. I mean, I think it's but again back to they want speed, a certain type of receiver. Yeah, I think you're right about this. Okay, commissioner's making the walk. Let's get to him. The Washington Brandskins have traded the twenty first pick to the Houston Texans. We're the twenty first pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft.

The Houston Texans select Will Fuller. That makes sense. They want a guy, they want speed, They want a guy that you know, defenses have to worry about, and that's going to help. The happiest person right now might be DeAndre Hopkins, hey, because there is someone that defenses have to worry about opposite him, and Lamar Miller's pretty pumped too well. That offense. You look at that offense, Brock Osweiler has stepped into quite an put imposing. We get

to see these guys in the preseason. How about that. Bill O'Brien's gonna be pretty happy with that offense. Is is different toys he can play with with with Will Fuller and Lamar Miller Brock Osweiler, We'll see how he does as a full time starter, but you know he will Fuller again the speed what he can do as a deep threat. Have some questions about him as an underneath receiver, but there is no questioning his ability to

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really doing a lot of things on the fly. We got to chance to visit with Zeke Elliott, Ezekiel a little bit. Gary Brown came in gave us some nice little some insight there about the particular players. So if we can recap the draft, we'll go back to the last five picks or so. Will Fuller goes to the Houston Texans, Darren Lee to the New York Jets Shack Lawson to the Buffalo Bills at nineteen, Ryan Kelly to the Inneapolis Colts at eighteen, and Kean O'Neil, the safety

from Florida, goes to Atlanta Falcons at seventeen. The Washington Redskins are currently on the clock. That says that the pick is in. We really haven't talked much about uh with the Redskins. Maybe we said get some defense, some type of help. Scott McLuhan though, you know, I when Scotty's another guy worked with in Green Bay and really proud to have won a Super Bowl ring with him when he was selected with When he got the job with the with the Redskins, you know, in the division,

I'm thinking, oh man, he's gonna get better players. I don't think you're gonna see the days anymore of of the crazy picks that they've made. I think that he's gonna go out and draft some really good, solid football players. So the Redskins are team that the Cowboys are gonna have to draft well to match, because I think the Redskins are gonna do just the same. So it's probably just made a lot of folks very mad and Dallas and Colboy Nation. But it's the truth. I believe that

about Scott mcluin. I think he's really good at what he does. No he is. And you know we talked about defense offense. You know they could also go in that direction. They could use another playmaker. Yeah, they could. Uh, you know they need help on certain parts of the offensive line. Could we see another receiver? We talked about the run of receivers here right, you know, could we see another one? Is that? Is that a possibility? Yeah?

I I you know that's uh. With we're we're towards the end of the run with potential first round players. I do on my board have guys like Treadwill Dotson, Michael Thomas was a guy we've talked about. Spence. Could could Scott mcluin. He came from the UH to Seattle, you know that whole thing where they they've taken some chances on some guys. Could they take a chance on a Noah's Spence here? Uh? Would the talent be too much for them? The pass? Uh? You know we've got

the Alabama kids. You know, Reid is still on the board, Robinson still on the board, Ragling Jack. You know there's all kinds of names that we could, uh that we could explore here with the with the Washington Redskins. So they have looks like that the pick is in. But let's see if they haven't moved to the to the podium. Um, are you surprised though that a guy like Treadwell is it is? It have to do something. Let's stop there that the commissioner's making his way to the podium, and

we got it for you right here. Let's see if one comes off the board right here, with the twenty second pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select Josh Dockson. There you go as the receiver. There's a playmaker, Josh Dockson. I thought, you know, we talked about the Redskins getting better with Josh Norman, a playmaker on defense, and now they got a playmaker on all offense. And you look at what the Redskins already

have at receiver with Pierre Garsona and DeShawn Jackson. H Josh Dawson, you know, brings a little bit of it, brings youth to the wide receiver position and brings a guy that could uh you know, step up into uh you know won't be pressed in action from day one in terms of being that number one guy. He can kind of, uh you know, work his way through. And I like the pick for the Redskins, and you know it's uh could uh you know the Cowboys. You know

who's gonna be covering this guy. Yeah, that's the thing about it. He was U, I have Treadwill at one, Dotson is two. So yeah, I mean he was very impressive to watch play at TCU. Very impressive on the workout. Hey, can't while we have a shot here. Uh, you know, we we're good. We got the Minnesota Vikings on the clock. Uh, do you have some Twitter questions in front of you

or anything like that? Can't once you once you fire some Twitter questions to us and about while maybe we'll answer a few of them here while the Minnesota Vikings on the clock. So go ahead there. Speaking of Treadwill Andrew says, do you think Dallas will go offense again if Lakwan Treadwell falls to them? His choice would be Noah Spencer, Fayroe Cooper later on, I'm not passing on

Lakwan Treadwell. Yeah, I mean, if he falls, do you think Treadwell has fallen off like speed teams speed speed, Yeah, and they're obsessed with the with with speed, and he's not going to be a guy that's going to create on his own. But again when you watch him on film, he doesn't need to because that's not his game. Will Fuller is not a better football player than Treadwall. No, he's not. He's not. And the fact that Fuller runs faster is why he got picked right. And to me,

the top three receivers are Treadwell, Dockson, and Coleman. And you could potentially sell me Coleman and Doxon because they are dynamic football players. But yeah, I agree with you on Fuller. And so there's there's a playoff team here in the twenties, maybe Minnesota right now, he's going to get a terrific player with Treadwell. I absolutely believe you're right. And and Dodson was a guy, like I said, Mike Zimmer worked him out at General manager Rick Spielman was

there as well, and they worked out Dotson. So they probably feel like that they just had a guy go right off their board, right in front of him. So what else you got there? Kimp? Has Miles Jack gone yet? No, he has not. Jason wants to know, as your head ready to explode, Joy to figure out a way to get back in for Miles Jack. I don't know if Miles Jack with the knee. I don't. I just don't

feel like that, Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I just don't feel like that they're gonna They're gonna do anything with Josh. It's gonna be with with Miles Jack. And I hate to say that because I thought that Miles Jack would have been taken by now, and I thought that, you know that someone and if he could play, he's gonna be a damn good player for somebody. But I think this whole medical thing is scared off a lot of teams. And I just don't see Dallas the fact that they

took Zeke at at at four. I see them at thirty four tomorrows going back to defense unless they jump back in. I'm looking at right now Warream Camp. There seems to be no activity. Yeah, we've got a press conference coming up at the ten thirty Central about, but it looks like no discussions going on there. So I don't know if they're gonna get back in this thing. But uh, yeah, I think with Miles Jack that the medical stuff even thirty four is just too much to ask.

Josh wants to know, is it time to package Leary and get back into this round? Is this the time you would think that would be done. Well, there's another guy that people look at with knee knee concerns coming out, and that's one of the reasons why he wasn't drafted. It's a trade piece, but yeah, you know, it's I don't think he's looked at as as valuable, as valuable as maybe a second round pick or anything like that.

You know, he would certainly sweeten a deal, but I'm not sure he's going to be that much of a factors. He did sign his tender today. Let's see, you know, let's see Kansas City is a team that could use could use a guard there at twenty eight. Let's check and see what the Green Bay Packers potentially could uh their situation. Guard tackle could be a possibility there. They've seen him play quite a bit. Let's focus in on

Seattle a little bit. You know, we're trying to find some teams here that could use a guard to let you back in the bottom of this round. Uh, Seattle, a guard would be you know that's that was a weakness in twenty fifteen. So Seattle at twenty six, if you can find a way to move it, you've moved it. Minnesota's on the clock. We've talked about receivers. Did you have Treadwell as your number one guy? And it's excuse me, can't because the picks in will go to the commissioner.

But he's not he's not up yet at he's not up at the podium. I'm sorry about that, k't but just to talk about and we'll get back to Twitter questions. But I'm doing a little producer, but talk about though. Was he your best receiver on the on the board. Yeah, I think he's the best receiver in this draft. Again, he's a four sixth athlete. He's not a speedster. That's not his game. But his ball skills, his catch radius, his physicality for a twenty year old, you see flashes

of Dez Bryant with his game. He's not as dynamic. He doesn't have that type of athleticism, but he doesn't need it because of his ability to snatch the ball away from his body and just overpower corners. It won't be as easy and you know he plays so well in the air, but yeah, exactly, And that's what you know, if you can get receivers that that you know, one of the most important things that we just overlook at the receiver position is catching the ball and that's what

he does. You know what he did this past year in the SEC for all miss to me best receiver in this draft. Okay, yeah, I just want to go on record with you there, just to make sure, Okay, can't what else we got on the some Twitter questions? Yeah, we got some questions about pass rushers, wondering if we think Spence will make it that far and how far do you wait if you want to grab Spence? What

about it, Dane? What about Spence? I mean, do we do we have a feeling that maybe this team might be a little gun shy And I'm sorry I used a bad phrase there, but a little uh, a little a little scared, right, that's about about hesitant about Spence. They've done a lot of research on him. I know that they went to Ohio State, they they worked with him, They talked to Urban Meyer, they talked to those coaches. You know, is is Noah Spence a guy that they

feel like could be that dynamic edge rusher. I mean I do maybe they don't, right and well, and they just have to be comfortable with him as a person. And not every team came away impressed with Spence during the interview process, right, you know, I give Spence credit going to the FCS level, passing every drug test, you know, trying to rebuild his image. But again, you know, he came off maybe a little fake at times during these interviews. Not every team was wanted to see what, you know,

what they were hoping to see. So I think it's gonna be a team by team basis here. And for Dallas, you know, I'm really not sure where they feel comfortable. If he's there at thirty four, he might not be an option. So this might go back to the Randy Moss thing, back to day when you get a very talented player, but you're scared off by some things and you just don't feel comfortable. But okay, the Vikings have turned into pick the commissioner making his way to the podium.

Eleve of offensive players, a lot of defensive players. Let's see how the Vikings breakfast tie of twenty three with the twenty third pick in the two thy sixteen NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select the receiver. Vikings, I think just got the best receiver in the draft for Teddy Bridgewater. UM. And you know, he fits that offense really well. Stefan Digs, a fifth round pick last year, is really blossomed in that offense. And look, Teddy Bridgewater is not the most

consistent deep ball thrower. That's not his game. Yeah, so I think Laquon Treadwill is really going to help in the short and intermediate game. I love the fit. Um. You know, does it sting a little bit for LaQuan that he's the fourth receiver taking sure, probably he's a competitive guy, but I think this fit long term will be the best thing for him. Yeah, we'll hear the Vikings. You know, we've already know that. The running back situation, you were all over Teddy Bridgewater as far as one

of the best quarterbacks you felt like coming out. Looks like to me, though they made a step. They went from a seven and nine team eleven and five on the playoffs. They were a missfield goal away from going on and being a part of a you know, maybe making a run. This thing. That's a good football team. This kid he's from uh, you know, Chicago area, and so he's used to playing in cold you know, I

know that makes a difference. Yeah, that makes it. You're in the NFC North and you're going to places like Chicago and Green Bay. Uh, you know, you have to be ready to play in some inclement uh settings. So I think he can handle that. Now he's looks like he's bringing his child up on the stage. So the Commissioner's gonna be very happy about that. Everybody, with all our Place sixty programs and stuff like that, to see

you know, kids involved. I think that's great and in a wonderful moment for Treadwell right there to be pack. He's going to a very good football team and a team that the Cowboys. We'll see now here we go. We talk about guys back to back. Cowboys have to deal with dots and they're gonna have to deal with Treadwell as well, So we'll see. We talked about the run of wide receivers coming up, Yeah, we sure did,

and Cincinnati's gonna be shut out. Yeah, you know, they don't even have a chance at one of these top four guys unless they like the Ohio State kid Michael Thomas. Sure, and that's something the Brown family. We all know what Paul Brown, he did work at Ohio States. Keep an eye on that. Ken't Garrison what you got for? Yeah? Melvin on Twitter? Can the Cowboys afford to pass on Paxson Lynch if he's there at thirty four? Four? To sure? I mean if they don't like him, if they don't

believe in him, yeah, then sure you pass. But I guess he's asking, is this the last good quarterback in this draft? Well? To me, I had him much higher and to me, I feel like that you can. You could definitely do something with him. You could work with him. But you know, the Cowboys might not think. We've talked about Connor Cook a bunch, we've talked about they brought seven guys in on their thirty visits. They've they've also

ran Wade Wilson to go work out Brandon Allen. They might be more comfortable taking one of those guys instead of taking Paxson Lynch. There's some people that believe that Paxson Lynch will get out of this this draft. He could be there at thirty four, but you know, we'll see. We've got Denver at the very end of this draft, so right, and I like Paxson Lynch. Again, my biggest worry with him is it just it's going to take

time for him. He's he's so young in quarterback years, and I think that's I think that the biggest worry with teams right now is how long it's going to take him to be NFL ready and really see the field. So we could still and we still have what seven picks here yea in the first round. He still had a chance for him to go in the first round. Well, we talked about the needs for the Cincinnai Bengals who are currently on the clock wide receiver, cornerback, and defensive end.

Does anybody strike your fancy there, day Brook. I mean again, I brought up Michael Thomas just because of the fact that Ohio State Paul Brown the family, he was an Ohio State coach. It seems there always a lot of connections. Will go back to Dan Wilkerson back in the day, was a Cincinna, Ohio state kid that made it was a pick, a very high pick for the for the Cincinnai Bengals. I think on defense, you look, they have a few areas of need with linebackers, possible defensive tackle,

another possibility the Alabama guys with Ashan and send Jaren Reid. Right, you know, Cincinnati has been a team that's taken chances with injury guys. Last year with Cedrica boy he they took him in the first round. Um, could you know Miles jack could he be a possibility? Yeah, they've You know, Cincinnati is one of those teams. And you got to understand this about the Bengals, They're not afraid to take

a risk. They're one of the smallest staffs in the in the National Football League when it comes to scouting departments. Coaches are very heavily involved in what they do on the personnel levels. So this is probably going to be a coach pick. You know, we have you surprised We haven't seen corners go off the board? Are you surprising?

We've seen hard Graves, we've seen Apple, But there's guys like I mean, we've talked about we've talked about Howard, we've talked about Alexander, we've talked we haven't talked we haven't talked about this guys, William Jackson. Where do you have William Jackson? Is this about where you thought maybe William jack this is the range right here, Alexander, I mean I like Alexander, I like how I mean, I like those guys. But it was this where where we now it's going to maybe see at twenty four where

you know, where are some of those top guys. We've mentioned the Spences and the Billings and the Reds, but we haven't seen that run on corners yet. Could the Bengals in fact make a run at a cornerback here? Yeause? I mean those are all those are all quality names right there. We haven't seen in cornerback being the second need we talked about it, wide receiver, corner, defensive end. They lost Leon Haul Uh here you go. It's uh there the names on the board when you look at

it of William Jackson or McKenzie. Allen Patrick's on his last year of his deal there too, So maybe maybe they make this pick that. I think that's a direction They definitely could go. Okay, well, who do you like at of Jackson, Alexander and maybe you know, maybe Howard, but but really of the first two like Alexander, but I think Jackson is more well liked by these NFL teams.

He gets a size, his length. Yeah, and I think he's the best corner in this draft at playing with the ball to his with his ball behind him, with the ability to play with his back to the ball, right. You know that speed, He trusts his speed. He has the instincts, the awareness, the ball skills. He gets his hands on the ball. So I think, you know, William Jackson, there had been some questions about, you know, can he digest off coverage and yeah, how that's going to play

best is yeah? That you know, some questions about that. Let him get up in the face of wide receivers, let him press, let him run, turn and run, and he can be a playmaker. Okay, well then that's a that's kind of a thought. I mean, he sure he you'd like Alexander Jackson could be that kind of gay right to me? Jackson is the type of guy, so it makes sense, right, all right? Can't what else you

got anything? Yeah, a lot of questions about Kim Dic Okay, I think he's going to be in play at thirty four. Possibly there's another guy that you know, he's plays as the three technique. You know, the Cowboys. They've invested a lot of money. I think that the Cowboys do go defense, but maybe this is where it's a defensive end. You know, we've talked about Bullard, We've talked about Dodd h Calhoun is a guy. We mentioned spins that might be too

much for somebody to deal with right there. So, uh, I don't know, you know, Yeah, we talked again about William Jackson, his his his length, the ability to play the play with his back to the ball. I think with Cincinnati right here to me, I love this fit. In the NFC North um has to go up against guys like Antonio Brown, Right, you know that Brown's just drafted Corey Coleman. Right, Um, you know the Ravens had

a first round receiver last year with Perryman. So look at the Bengal selection here about to be announced at the podium. Yeah, and it looks like the commissionaire. In the two thousand and sixteen NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select William Jackson. There you go, day, nice shop defensive back, Houston. There you go William Jackson again, his ball skills, his ability to play the ball. Uh. You know at any point in the field, he does a lot of wide

receiver like things. So I think that's really uh that that for William Jackson. It's a natural fit for what Cincinnati does. And again at going to a division where you have to be able to cover these wide receivers, and so I think it does make sense. Okay, this means now that the Pittsburgh series, we stay in the AFC North, the Pittsburgh Steelers are on the clock and they have a full, all out allotment of time. Excuse me, h, Ken't what else you got on questions? Yeah, we get

a question what would you target? I mean, looking at the depth and the players still there obviously, what would you target at thirty four corner or pass rusher? I think the best player on the board at one of those two spots. Yeah, I think that's that's the cop out answer, but that's the truth. I mean, I don't think you want to you don't want to predetermine. Okay, we're definitely going in this position. You know, we want to take the best player available at a position of need.

So you're looking at corner, you look at defensive end. You know, I think, yes, you're leaning towards defense, but don't count out other positions. Maybe that'll help you on offense, depending on who falls, whether that's a orderback or uh, you know, maybe another position. So defense makes sense with Kevin Dodd if he's there, I think that makes a lot of sense to play. Are you like Bullet? You like Bullard better than I had? Bullard's a first round player.

To me, I think there's a chance he could, you know, come off Pittsburgh here. Yeah, okay, Pittsburgh's pick is in. They have an idea of exactly the direction they want to go. Commissioner is going to be to the podium here in jest a minute. Always have a lot of respect for the Steelers. I've always had. It's a that's an organization that you know, they have consistency at coaching and head coaching. The scouts have the same it's the

same plan, it's the same focus. Uh. You know, those teams that had that continuity seem to do a nice shots anytime. No, they did, and they had a player in mind. We're picking now at twenty five and here it is Commissioner Goodell pick. In the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Hardy Burns, defensive back Miami. Interesting. Already, Burns and you have to wonder if Pittsburgh was about to take William Jackson before Cincinnati

swooped in and took him. Well, they knew what they wanted to do because they handed the pick in pretty early. Though maybe that's a guy that they they had, They had a little bit of some thought on there. So a little bit to talk a little bit about Already Burns from Miami University of Miami. Yeah, Already Burns. You know, six foot, one hundred ninety five pounds, a four or four athlete. Uh, you know, he had six interceptions last

year at tied for the acc lead. He's still very very raw, and you see that it very unpolished, both physically in terms of press and how he uses his hands, but also route anticipation. But he's physical. He's gonna get in your face.