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This Detox Helped Her Finally Have A Baby After Miscarriage with Angela Peel

Nov 04, 20251 hr 36 minEp. 23
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Dr. Daniel Pompa interviews Angela Peel, who shares her journey from chronic illness to restoration through cellular detox, biblical identity, and the pain-to-purpose process. After battling neurological issues, chemical sensitivity, and anemia, she uncovered her “perfect storm” of mold, microbiome imbalance, and emotional toxicity—and found healing that restored her health, faith, and fertility.

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SPEAKER_04

Did you have trouble getting pregnant?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we had a miscarriage. I was so sick, I was losing so much weight. I just became to a point where I had minimal energy, even to the point where asking my husband, I just can you please just help me dress today, like just laying in bed.

SPEAKER_04

They're telling you this is the rest of your life.

SPEAKER_00

You're gonna have to take injections for now, probably more later.

SPEAKER_04

And you just got that because it runs in your family.

SPEAKER_00

God is a healer that prayed. I felt like God said, Pray over your body.

SPEAKER_04

Then you start learning cellular healing, all the five R's, then you start learning how to detox your cells correctly.

SPEAKER_00

I had such a fear, and it I feel like it gripped me.

SPEAKER_04

As you start getting rid of the physical toxins, trapped emotional toxins start to come out. So, how did you break through those fears, those doubts? Well, you know, looking back, how would you say you ended up getting sick? How? Yeah, how'd you get sick? It's not just a one-word, it's not we're gonna unveil your whole story, right? We're gonna just like we're gonna pull the whole thing from pain to purposes.

SPEAKER_00

That's what my first instinct word would be mold, right? I think that's one of the major R1 sources.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

However, I think it's a like you call it a multi-therapeutic approach. It's a multi-therapeutic approach because there's it's multifaceted in how we became sick. So just like, you know, even from the microbiome. I remember whenever we we looked in our pantry and we need to do some changes. Very first, we got ripped.

SPEAKER_04

How long ago, how long ago was this?

SPEAKER_00

Hey, Paul. Uh 2022 or uh early, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. 2022. So you literally you but you knew like, okay, we have to change our diet. But did your husband think you should change your diet at that point?

SPEAKER_00

Well, we had already been on a course of wanting to already wanting to eat healthier. We actually met through a nutrition seminar. So that was already in the back of our minds of just just taking those extra steps.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_00

You know, kind of like the pompous steps.

SPEAKER_04

Right. Exactly. All right. So what what were your first symptoms? What what when did you say, okay, something's wrong? And and take take me back. I want to hear that.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Well, I think the first thing I noticed that something wasn't right is I started getting those vibrations. If I would like turn my head just ever so slightly, you know, I would feel like this uh tingling is starting in my fingers, back of my neck. And I remember being on a trip with um with our with our uh work and I just something didn't feel right. I also had was going through some of the things.

SPEAKER_04

What work were you doing at that time? Teaching. Okay. Teaching. Yeah, you were a teacher. I knew that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And well, this is something I didn't want to mention then, but I'm okay with saying now because it's important, especially for others who are listening, that they have that thing they don't want to talk about, but it's very important to address it. I had um some massive hemorrhoids where I was bleeding.

SPEAKER_04

You know what when I was sick, I had massive hemorrhoids. Who wants to talk about that? Right? It is so painful.

SPEAKER_00

It's so painful. Dr. Pampa, I remember um having to like tread lightly and even walk carefully because it would hurt just to walk. And I was be I remember being on that trip and I couldn't tell anyone except my best friend. I said, I'm in so much pain right now. And I had to change, I had to change. And it is, it's painful. And that that should have been something right there to okay, at least go to the doctor to get it.

SPEAKER_04

You know, I never thought of this until right now that that was one of my early some I would I would argue almost before I would say I even was sick, I really these hemorrhoids that came out of nowhere. Yeah, showing you that there was showing us that there was some weird microbiome disruption that was occurring, right? Yes, yeah, exactly. And then, you know, it went to other things. But so then, so the hemorrhoids happened, right?

And then this weird tingling, or you call what did you vibrations. Yes, so neurological weird stuff. Right. Okay. What else? What else up?

SPEAKER_00

So then just being in the uh classroom, I noticed some things um lights would really bother me. And I remember squinting a lot, wanting to turn the lights off. Of course the kids liked it too, right? And smells, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The the deodorants, you know, the spray deodorants that kids love to put, you know, just impress the ladies or whatever, but I could smell it.

SPEAKER_04

Um, I hated it. The colognes, the perfumes, it would leave me irritable, but fogged worse. But you could smell. I always joked and said if someone took their shoes off, like in an airplane, I could smell it. I'd be like, what is that? Rice I smell fungus. I smell also something something's in here.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so that was the then what? Tell me this progression.

SPEAKER_00

So it's I I actually felt like I couldn't be in the same room. It became more and more where um lights, smells, sounds, and we know kids.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, the sounds. My wife would have to take we had two young boys at the time, she'd have to take them out. I and because I would be like, I can't handle that.

SPEAKER_00

And you almost felt bad.

SPEAKER_04

I would yell. I mean, I would, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I remember I remember one time, unfortunately, because I think others just don't understand unless you're you've had those symptoms, and it gave me the impression I was kind of crazy, like, you're what's wrong with you? Yeah. You know? Well, actually, I don't know. Yeah. And the energy is that that's the million dollar question. Right. My energy just became uh lower and lower. And I attributed it to, well, you know, just the job, and of course, it's taxing on your body.

And so I just kind of brushed it to the side. I did at one point go to the doctor, got some blood work, and she said, Oh, um, we probably need to do a stool test. I was like, Ugh. Um, we're seeing a decline in your blood supply. And I'm like, Well, yes, because I have hemorrhoids. So I brushed it off.

SPEAKER_04

I would have thought the same. That was actually very intuitive because hemorrhoids, the bleeding could drop the blood volume.

SPEAKER_00

True. And I think I was probably near um, I was probably m on my cycle at that time too. So I was like, well that's not it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So goodness. Of course, the uh what increased too were those those floaters and um in my eyes and just uh gosh, I had all the floaters too. But also this like a like a flashing lights in the side of your you think something is over there and you look and it's it's in your eye. Yeah. And even when you close your eyes, you're like you still see it, like a flashing light. Oh goodness.

It became to the point where I was so low on energy, the thought came to my mind, do I need to do a leave of absence? I don't know that I can continue. Um of course, uh some would probably say that I'm a little stubborn. I like to say I'm determined. Um so I continued, I pushed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Some. Uh-huh. Some.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So I I trudged on until I couldn't, right? Well, it was my birthday weekend. Well, let me rewind just a little bit there. We went to a cookout. And I I like to say this is a God thing too, because uh sometimes you just know that when he intercedes for you and you don't really know what to pray, or you know, God, something's wrong. I don't know what it is. And we went to a cookout and it was one of our friends, and she happens to be a nurse, and she she she sat me down.

You gonna tell me what's going on? I was like, Yeah. She said, and I when I told her, I said, Okay, we're gonna I'm gonna put you on the urgent list. Let's go get you checked out. And so we did all the things, right? All the blood works and the things. Well, and it was near near my birthday that we we found out. I remember we were we went out to just a weekend together and I got a phone call and it was from her. She said, Where are you?

And I said, This, you know, birthday weekend, mountains, we love the mountains. Well, I'm pretty sure you have pernicious anemia. When can you get back? We need to start either doing a blood transfusion or iron transfusions, blood transfusions.

SPEAKER_04

And and tell our audience what what is uh pernicious anemia?

SPEAKER_00

That's what yeah. So pernicious anemia is basically in your ileum of your small intestine is not absorbing the B12 anymore. Um, your your body is considering it foreign. And so learned all this, right? Intrinsic factor, parietal cells, uh top the charts, right? Um there's like the high level and then there's like way over here level. So definitely with that um pernicious anemia. So there's like different levels like chronic and then pernicious, pernicious anemia.

So um I was like, okay, well, what disturbed me was like this is the rest of your life. Oh, and by the way, as you learn more, especially when you look up the word pernicious, that's a that's a fun definition.

SPEAKER_04

But uh tell them the definition.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's subtle and deadly.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, subtle and deadly. So when you read those words, what was your feeling?

SPEAKER_00

Dr. Pompa, I became so fearful. And if I could go back to that girl and just give her hope. Doom.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It just feels like doom.

SPEAKER_04

The word like jay, I think it would get any of a buddy, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then they're telling you this is the rest of your life.

SPEAKER_00

Rest of your life. Um, you're gonna have to take injections for now, probably more later. And of course, then you learn about polio uh poly autoimmunity.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and then when you ask them, well how why did I get this, they say, Well, it's just it's autoimmune. Your body's attacking itself, and you just got that because it's runs in your family. True. Is that what they told you?

SPEAKER_00

And actually, come to find out. Um, yes, that's what they that is what they told me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's typically how it goes.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, yeah. And I did find out just through conversation with with my mother, um, there is anemia, low iron, right? Um, so yeah, the fear, so the fear of even wanting to learn.

SPEAKER_04

Can I have a teaching moment right there? Yes. I don't want to stumble that not to you, to the your DNA is not your destiny. That's right. Yeah. Meaning that we all inherit weaknesses, we all inherit things that, you know, absolutely are possibilities, if you will, right? And uh those genes get turned on, they get triggered. Yes. So we don't she didn't get this because she was doomed her destiny, right? No way. You know, something triggered.

We're gonna get there and tell you what that trigger was. But anyways, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Well, and I had such a fear then about wanting to learn anything. And I'm a I consider myself give me a fear to learn anything. A fear to learn anything about pernicious anemia.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, okay. Because you, God forbid, you know, that would scare you more.

SPEAKER_00

It would.

SPEAKER_04

Because it could be even more deadly than it said deadly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then when you start doing the whole Google thing, you know how that can take you down a uh tr di different trails and this is what can happen later in life, and it just and then you hear the you know, you read on Google life expectancy of those with and I'm just like, I c I can't go there, right? So I had such such a fear and it I feel like it gripped me. And this wasn't me though. And I like it.

SPEAKER_04

So the enemy wants that fear.

SPEAKER_00

He does. And so I didn't want to learn anything about it until one night I just I I prayed. I felt like just I felt like God said, Pray over your body. And so I did. I start I started praying over my body, and I I just was reading my journal um here recently, knowing I'm getting to talk to the Dr. Pompa. You know, it's cool seeing you live. It really is. It's so cool. Like this is Dr. Pompey person.

SPEAKER_03

That is so funny. Yeah. What's the difference live and uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I I mean you're s you're charismatic still, even in person and upbeat. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Some people say, Oh my gosh, you're exactly the same person as you're I'm like, really? I I of course I am.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, which see is yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I just I remember I just prayed and I said, God, you know, because we uh God is a healer, right? And so I I asked him that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly. So they're probably like, well, I I feel like the need to fill them in on this, right? So this you're we're gonna pick into this because there's so many uh important lessons that they need to hear, but your pain to purpose story, okay? So she gets, you're gonna hear it all, but she finds me. Yes, does everything that you know my program, you had a coach, she went through my program with a coach, right?

She ends up taking my certification where I certify people in this process, right? And then from the certification, she ends up now one of my coaches, okay. Hang to purpose. Hold on, there's so much more. Okay, so that's why for her to say, Oh, it's so you know, crazy seeing you in person because I train the coaches, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, I get to always see you on the you know a camera or Zoom. Yeah, exactly. I'm on a lot of cameras and zoom, especially when you work in you know in the company.

SPEAKER_00

So what's funny you said so much more. That's what I feel like God said. I want to do so much more than just heal you. I yes, I'm the God of healing, but I want to do so much more.

SPEAKER_04

So I'm like, Yeah, so that okay, so back to that. That's where you were. You were praying. You were praying over your body. You heard like God was speaking that to you. So you started praying and you heard him say, I'm gonna heal you, and then I'm gonna do so much more. Well I want to do more than heal you. Okay, I'm gonna do more than heal.

SPEAKER_00

I want to teach you how. I want to teach you how, and then you can help give hope to the others. Here I am thinking, okay, I'm I'm not sure how, but and then that was reminds me, and you know my story, right?

SPEAKER_04

God on her knees, or Marily on her knees, my wife, and God speaks to her as clear as day to her that not only am I going to get him well, me, but he's gonna take a message to the world, right? It's like, and when she would tell me that, I'd be like, I can't get myself well. Okay, so that message didn't go over well, but she hung on to that promise. Here I am. Right. Very similar to what you just experienced.

SPEAKER_00

And then I see autoimmune and it got my attention. What do you mean, see? I saw autoimmune on Instagram. So on Instagram, I saw autoimmune, and there's Dr. Pompa. Who is this, right? And I watched your video. I remember it being kind of late at night. I didn't care. I stayed up, took the NTA.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, neurotoxic assessment.

SPEAKER_00

I felt seen. I felt like, oh my gosh, these are the symptoms I've been having that people don't understand or think that you're yeah, because that's that assessment has evolved over 20 years and we know what this looks like, right?

SPEAKER_04

So that's why it was like, oh my gosh, yes, they know to ask this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Right. And I just I knew then, I and I loved, I love Dr. Pompa, but I just want to say this too. I love that you give glory to God. I love that it goes back to him because that's what it really is about. It's about him.

SPEAKER_04

But I can't help it, literally. It's not anything except that I cannot help it. I appreciated it so much. His love. The victory that he gives you.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. And uh I felt like that was the more God was talking about that he wanted to do. That fear that gripped me, I felt like it shedded that night that I prayed. Did I receive instant healing? No. I was I still had pernicious anemia. I still had some, I still had symptoms. But I I But he showed you a direction. He showed me a direction and gave me a word. And I feel like a word from God, that's that can change the atmosphere.

That changes the atmosphere of any room that we're in is a word from him. And so continued on, and I talked to my husband about it. I said, This is what I want to do. I want to do this. And so we got um on the call with a health advisor. And I remember thinking, Dr. Pampa, that I don't care what the price is, I'm gonna do it because I felt this is what this is what it is. And back up a little bit too, your explanation of the cell.

So when I said I watched those videos, like as I draw it, you draw the cell, good things can't get in and the toxins can't get out. Your cells are inflamed. So no wonder even blood purports can come back good, but yet you're still feeling the way you are. That's exactly what I say. Exactly. I said, that makes sense to me. Um, and just I love your analogies too. So yeah, I said this is it, and we we uh talked and I said, I'm I'm in, I want to be a client. And shout out to Linda Dayton.

Oh my gosh. We both had her as a coach. So my husband joined in a little bit later. Yeah, and this is something I want to say. So my husband does not have like an autoimmune or something serious, right? You know, I said, Why wait? You know, your body, you know, this makes sense to detox seasonally the world that we live in, why not learn it? And we can do it together and jumped on.

SPEAKER_02

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00

So became a client, and uh so oh man, to go from there.

SPEAKER_04

That was an amazing experience just Yeah, so then you start learning cellular healing, right? Learning all the five R's, and you start learning how to detox your cells correctly. Yes, right, the process. How I mean, so what were okay, so because part of that process that I teach uh the coaches to take people through is digging people for into what I call their perfect storm. R number one. What are the sources?

The perfect storm means it's typically not one, it's three sources, stressors, if you will, that come together, bam, trigger the gene, yeah, and you end up with the illness, right? That's exact. So you kind of led to it in the beginning, but let's talk about your perfect storm that you uncovered with your coach.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. So I was definitely in a position where mold was evident.

SPEAKER_04

And now were you still in a moldy home or was it a past moldy home?

SPEAKER_00

Past uh work environment.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, past work environment. How did you deduce that?

SPEAKER_00

Well, we even I knew there was mold. Um, we had construction going on in the school. Um, we even had a room.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, first of all, I again another s teaching moment, but an irritating one. Many, many schools are moldy because the budgets are so low. They have flat roofs, they're they leak everywhere, up in the ceilings, they just kind of fix what they need to fix. They don't actually fix the problem, paint over it. And so I can't tell you how many moldy schools there are, and it's making kids and teachers sick. I see this all the time. And it's very, very disturbing. So, anyways, this is very common.

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

So we so I knew that there was mold. I mean, we would kind of laugh about it. There was a room that we called the mold room where we would kind of have a storage place to just put things in. So I knew that that was a problem. And there was a moment that I definitely knew was when um like the heating AC unit was leaking, and that's when we had to have construction.

And at that time, you know, I was talking to Linda, she was super supportive, encouraging, because this is a process, and you have people that are going through this situation, and mold is yeah, it's scary, it's evil. It's also it's expensive.

SPEAKER_04

And it's expensive. That makes it the the evil part because people have to uproot their lives oftentimes or leave jobs or whatever it is, right? It and I always say it's evil because you don't see it, but it's there. It's there, it makes you sick, people sick, unknowing, people just think you're crazy, and you start thinking you're s you're crazy, right? Right. It grows in dark places, it hates the light, right? It's like that sounds like pure evil to me.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_04

Absolutely. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

So mold was a big one, and it there was a big decision to make. You know, do I continue? I love my students, I love this is where I've been in the community. I know the the families. Do I move? And it was an obvious answer to me. Um, so it was just a matter of time to to get that situated.

SPEAKER_04

So I did go to a different school, um, brand, brand new built school, so um, which was nice, but on some other sources I think the but brand new built school, but here's also what happens people with mold illness, they start to not do well with any toxins. And when a brand new building has a lot of chemicals, true.

SPEAKER_00

I remember you saying that even when you could buy new furniture or a big car.

SPEAKER_04

Because I found myself chemically very chemically sensitive. You know, mercury was part of my story, perfect storm, but I was also in a low-grade moldy home. So I I realized, oh my gosh, I'm reacting to small amounts of mold. This is horrible. But then I became very chemically sensitive. So you have to be careful about brand new, too.

SPEAKER_00

True. Yes, exactly. And I think um even going through body phase, so starting to detox, I realized some So we have a prep phase, prepares you for detox.

SPEAKER_04

Then we have a body phase that just clears a lot of the easy-to-get toxins, which prepares you for the most important phase, which is the brain phase.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

That's getting those deep neurotoxins out. And that's what how we got our lives back. Yeah. Yes. But okay. I just was bringing it up. Oh, I love it. I love it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so in my body phase, I realized um another part of my perfect storm, but I didn't really want to bring it up so much. It was it's that emotional, the you know, things that have happened in the past where, you know, I've noticed it started coming up more and more.

SPEAKER_04

And and by the way, as you start getting rid of the physical toxins, the emo trapped emotional toxins start to come out.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I believe it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yes. And it and it can be physical, chemical, emotional as a perfect storm. So what you're saying is you started realizing there was some emotional stuff that was part of that perfect storm.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And I uh since we're on that physical, chemical, emotional, you know, I think mold was a huge one and then the emotions came up and physically I couldn't that was another part of uh symptoms. I just became to a point where I had minimal energy, you know, even to the point where asking my husband, I just can you please just help me dress today? Like just laying in bed. Can you help me dress?

To the point where and here we are, we met at a gym at a nutrition conference, nutritional seminar, and you know, working out together to where And now he's helping you dress. Yeah. Yeah. And I think those were I think those were some the big ones.

SPEAKER_04

And by the way, I I you know I hear stories like this and it always brings me back to my own stuff, right? I remember, you know, not only having very little energy to want to get dressed and go to work, right? And what that felt like, but I remember standing in my closet not being able to make a decision on even what to do. I I I had that much brain file. I would be like, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And half the time I forgot what I was even doing in there. But it decisions, did you get any of that?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. I was going to ask you something. Did you get fears that used to never be a fear?

SPEAKER_04

Oh gosh. I bizarrely.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't want to drive.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Oh well well first of all going through like if I was driving and all of a sudden it was like a yellow light I I couldn't make a decision to go or not and I would get all this anxiety. Yes over a stupid yellow light. So driving became a problem and I would think cars were going to come at me and weird things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Oh and that was around the time too that when I didn't know I just didn't know what was going on that I'm like what is you know that that weird fear that you're talking about it's part of that bizarre what I call non-worry anxiety meaning it's just part of that weird feeling of like oh you know like you can't cope with normal things. Yeah. That's I don't even know how to describe it. I to for me to go into public, like I remember I couldn't look people in the eyes anymore.

It was be I'd have to look down and away. Yeah it was the weirdest thing. I they call that mercury you know that's more of a mercury detox uh neurotoxic thing. But I was like it was the weirdest thing. I I couldn't be in a public situation very much. It was stressed me out.

SPEAKER_00

I I could see that yes yes anyways go ahead. Well yeah I think the molds getting out of that um found out too this was actually starting like right when I met co my coach Linda um we I one of the questions I asked her is like well you know taking these supplements you know you have a lot of questions about the supplements and getting started you know what if you get pregnant? You know that's something that we were wanting to do.

And she said oh we we'll definitely handle that no worries and um Because w did you have trouble getting pregnant?

SPEAKER_04

Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And now at this point okay so at this point um I just that was the only um I guess reference so to speak that I even gave to that was just just as a hey what if because you're a woman women can get pregnant I never voiced though that it's something I wanted and I remember one day just talking to her and it came out and she said Angela I'm gonna write that down because you know as a coach you want to know their why why why are you here? And not just I want to feel better.

SPEAKER_04

She she kind of this because you asked the question being a woman because I'd have probably glossed over she she intuitively thought ah this is one of her whys and you know she asked the question and smart just asking God for healing was a big thing for me.

SPEAKER_00

Just to ask like can I ask for that you know not that can God do it can I ask for it.

SPEAKER_04

And why why do you think that was a big deal asking?

SPEAKER_00

That's a really good question, Dr.

SPEAKER_04

Pompa Because my my instinct on that says you must thought if you didn't deserve it or it wouldn't happen.

SPEAKER_00

I there's you know different yes I think there's an un there was an unworthy spirit.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. Um I wonder how many other people have that unworthy spirit I'm trying to think back did I have an unworthy spirit I I don't know I I don't want to give a just a flippant answer. I I don't know. I don't know maybe I did I I definitely had a a a doubtful spirit.

I I definitely was like you know what did I do to deserve this spirit perhaps I don't know and so I remember Linda saying I'm gonna write that down and I said you are to me writing something down becomes permanent right that's like a thing and she did.

SPEAKER_03

You're writing that down does that make it a goal?

SPEAKER_00

Right is that is um and so it actually right before I started my supplements or before I think it was the same week that I got them, I actually found out I was pregnant and um I told Linda we were excited.

SPEAKER_04

By the way when you start in getting rid of toxins just when you start upregulating cell function, yes the chance of getting pregnant go and I say this jokingly but you how many women I got pregnant. No, I mean in my days of I that didn't come out right um I only got one woman pregnant but what I mean by that is the method on fixing the cell and getting well I can't tell you how many people weren't able to get pregnant, end up pregnant.

You know, it's like you very I I count this I I can't even count. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway so this is well and so at that at that time in the program we we took a pause, right? And um so I remember okay I told her like yeah we're pregnant so she said we're gonna take a pause and it wasn't about a week or two later that I had to call her and say um well I think I can start back again and because we had a miscarriage and she said are you short? And I just I love the way she showed empathy.

She met me right there where I was um wanted to make sure emotionally mentally was I you know wanted to continue. I said absolutely this is what I want to do because I know this is what's going to help me get better and the sooner I start the better. And that was a process too.

So I know that that that obviously added on to yeah you know to that stress um and found out again through my mother she had a history of fibroids and other things that you know would hinder someone from being able to hold that or you know conceive and hold um to prevent miscarriages.

So um did come back was able to do the body phase and and detox with the brain phase um my husband was doing it with me and I tease him sometimes like you got to do the fun stuff right I was so sick though like I was losing so much weight that was another symptom like and I know some would probably say oh my gosh girls if you only knew I'd love to lose weight not in this way right it was it was not good and so I didn't get to do the kind of faster track as some would say like my husband and it

was very customized and compare you know you could see the Pomper program is we start with core but it's very customized.

You could be on a completely different track protocol track than your husband or whoever and I saw that firsthand with him you know even down to now we ate similarly but he got to do the he did he was a little faster track and doing ketogenic and getting into ketosis and fasting and how much weight did he lose I don't know if it was so much weight he just wanted to stay the energy and he said I remember him telling me just his mental clarity like I just like running on really good fuel um and

just that clarity with that uh burning ketones right yeah exactly so yeah yeah and um just seeing that well come to the time of when we felt well we had one of our calls with with Linda and fast forward a little bit after we've done some some detoxing and we got to have a call and I wanted to make sure Ed and I both my husband and I both were on the call together because we um had the same coach but we would have different meetings just based on schedule and that's typically how it works and got

to share the news right guess what Linda we're pregnant and I just remember that. So and this one Dr.

SPEAKER_04

Pompa I knew well because this time you had time through the detox.

SPEAKER_00

Yes changes everything everything um even getting you know an ultrasound no fibroids right and um so anyway I that was just such an exciting call and I remember um having conversations with her and like this is it Linda what do I do you know and we like I said we met through a nutrition seminar so we've always been into nutrition and you know certifications but what do I do? She said you know there's health centers with Pompa sign me up.

SPEAKER_04

I this Yeah so health centers is my where I train coaches for years but recently I just started saying okay I'm um we're gonna certify pain to purpose people right like I want to do this I want to because I realized actually some of the best were the exceptions where I made that like allowed this person who just wants to do this in they were like the best coaches they were changing lives like like Ben Azzati and yes yeah I mean there's like so many examples like that Tammy Stewart and and so

then I was like okay let's just certify the average person from pain to purpose who wants to do this and change other lives. Boom yeah so you entered you got certified in my program.

SPEAKER_00

Oh absolutely the I said our memory telling her I want to do this as soon as possible how can I get in and um and I already had a forethought I this is what I want to do.

I want to be working for Pompa I want to learn from the best Pomp Dr. Pompey you talk about getting in the room yeah getting in the room and put yourself in the right room if you want to go to a certain level right and know that you know know what identity God is calling you as your your God identity right um you know as David perceived you as king and that was a whole journey in itself just snow oh we're gonna talk about identity because I saw the book over there so hold on Zo stay tuned

because we're going somewhere really special.

SPEAKER_04

Uh oh okay bring it in we're gonna stop right there though I mean so you you know where you're at right in your mind.

SPEAKER_00

Okay bring that baby in here the the detox absolutely was part of this child yeah yes and that was my why but I was so afraid to voice that right going back to could I ask God for healing and then once I got there well I'm not you know asking for a baby too and uh yeah I'm just I'm so I'm so grateful and I'm just thankful that you said yes to God and that you said yes to this mission and and it just coming full circle and like I I get it God like it's you wanted to teach you wanted to show me

more and yes you're the God of healing right now you can heal but just to to show me more and this has changed the trajectory of my life. You know I went from teaching 15 16 years and now you're still teaching though.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah in a different capacity right and now a mama yeah like yeah you know it's um when God obviously I I had said this when Mariley crying off her answers and all is you're gonna get me well we're gonna take a message of the world right you you immediately I you know felt that pressure but you know it had nothing to do with me first of all and secondly it's not me taking a message of the world anymore it you know I do my part yeah at like look how many people you're impacting now and all these

you know other the coaches and certified people in the process what we teach is what God showed me right it's like what God showed me that when I was sick I didn't even realize how important it was and how relevant now for such a time as this.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Right? It's like how many people have the symptoms that we had or neurotoxic going through it can't get pregnant blah blah blah you know we have a world to impact. Absolutely you know and I could never do it. It's if I'm if I'm doing this myself I'm dead in the water. Right? It's like but God's calling those and probably you calling the people into this and it's not my information it's what he showed me. And that's the exciting part. That's the exciting part.

SPEAKER_00

Someone's excited huh?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. So when you got the news that you're pregnant again was any part of you scared because you thought I don't want to go through another miscarriage.

SPEAKER_00

I would like to say cautiously optimistic.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But something was different about it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

In that um there's that's a whole nother story Dr. Pompa we could go episode two, right? You know, just the f the space steps that I wanted to take um for example uh we went to go pick out paint and what we wanted to paint the nursery with. This was before I knew.

And just taking those steps like just believing you know God calls into what's not there but he calls it as it you know as it is to bring come forth and I just wanted to have that faith, you know, like I feel like God is leading me through this. He's brought me to Pompa to help teach me how to detox He knows that he's given me these desires.

I mean I could read you I brought my journal but I just reading back through my journal even just that was my desire and voicing that to him um and so I just I believed for it and started taking those steps of faith and um and then yeah yeah absolutely yeah and but that it it is scary but you stepped yes you stepped into it right. Right, right.

I was still nervous of course didn't tell anybody but you know the husband about um by the way we're pregnant and then just waited even to tell family and and friends. Um but definitely anxiously excitedly waiting to tell them because I knew this was different. And this is this is gonna this is it. This is part of my story um that uh get to share.

SPEAKER_04

So the book sitting over there yeah is I I would always say it's it's one of my favorite books absolutely because the reason is because it let me see my I true identity of who God created me for. Right. I was still taking on individual clients and I tell the story that I was taking my own mastermind where I was teaching practitioners, right? And I do these masterminds and um the gal who worked for me for many years said okay you're gonna do it too but you're gonna be my partner.

So I'm like okay I'm taking my own seminar. That's great. Right. And in that process I realized that my identity wasn't just individual you know meaning teaching individuals. I it reminded me that my identity was to take a message to the world it was to take it to the masses.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That was yeah let's show the book there's the book right there. Yes I brought it so and David perceived he was king. So in a nutshell the book and you you should get the book. Absolutely but um David had all kinds of false identities put on him right as we all do by the way and typically it's from loved ones parents people who care people who love us teachers what whatever give us false identities of who we think we are.

And as a dyslexic I had all kinds of false identities I'm stupid I'm dumb right and and out of false identities create bad behavior and fears right we have fears because of false identities we don't go in life where God wants us to because of false identities right and I believe God's always evolving us into be the person he created us to be that's our true identity. Yes who God created us to be is our true identity and it is an evolution in that process.

David he had false identities of the bastardized son you know that when Samuel the prophet came to say something to his father Jesse anoint the next king of Israel where's your oldest son he brings him out not it next son not it next son not it that's all I have well wait you David like you know other words he didn't even think of him it was the bastardized son right and of course it was David but then his brothers gave him all kinds of false identities oh go back with your lowly sheep right

you're all belong here on the front lines when he brought them you know food and you know uh things that his father said bring these to your brothers and they're like go home you know so false identity false identity right but wins along the way he slays a lion and a bear right to which allowed him to step in to his true identity you know as he steps up to Goliath yes right and he fight takes on this thing because he saw this as just a God problem not you know it wasn't a size of this giant

problem it was a God problem. And you know David though still functioned mostly in those false identities as he became the king of Israel he literally still was messing up his life and the life of you know the country of Israel. And then David perceived he was king. You can in my Bible you can see whether he crossed over he perceived meaning who and what God created him for. That's right. And when he got that identity down David changed and he changed the nation. He changed the world.

Yes David was the savior out of yeah I mean so that what did that book do for you because they took me into realizing I am called to this I forgot I'm not so it took me to another level of my true identity what is Oh gosh if I can open this up there's this one part where shout out to Ian you um my our coach my head coach Ian yeah we love Ian yes uh we talk about this um every once in a while and we'll bring it up we just love but talk like your father was one that stood out to me you know what

you speak over your life what you're and what we're speaking over ourselves is also you know comes back to well where where are your thoughts, you know, and back to like vitamin G, right? Even just one of those little seeds that you speak over ourselves oftentimes is a reflection of our how we think of our identity.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And then what you also speak over yourself with you know like healing where you speak I'm going to this is um this is just a storm right and I I can't help but think you know I sometimes tell clients you know there's a if there's a valley what's in but what's on both sides there's mountains to climb there's peaks.

So and sometimes there's gonna be those uh rocky times where you do feel like you're in in the valley but remember you feel like there's no coming out right but uh just talk like your father you know um remembering who you are who he is in you and that was that was some things that really stood out to me um gosh there's so much because you can look there's so much in that book like underlining a lot I know yeah my book is like underline yeah it's the time I'd have known you were gonna bring it

I'd have brought mine because I could have been like oh my gosh yeah impromptu there is a time when it's proper to flee from our present job and look for new employment I was like okay yeah I mean just okay so why would that happen?

SPEAKER_04

Because as you step into a new identity of yourself an understanding of who God really created you to be you said it you were there but you you said that I you knew that God had something more for you different for you. Yeah so now doing what you're doing is you stepped into that identity who God really created you to be more so that you know it wasn't that it was wrong what you were doing but it was a step by step to get him to what he really created you to do from pain to purpose.

I always tell the people I'm coaching look for your purpose in your pain. Yes I it's that sounds crazy but it's true but from pain to purpose there's one more word you know what the word is promise of promise. Yeah yes absolutely I always think of merrily whenever when you say from pain to purpose and I'll to promise because she always hung on to the promise right yes and do you were there promises that you held on to?

SPEAKER_00

Yes one being of course Bo. Didn't know it was Bo then but um and just knowing I this isn't wasted. And Dr. Palm that's something I wanted to just share too like just coming from you know being sick to as a client then to getting certified and now coaching you know I remember just I that's what I want to do is to bring hope. You know when you're told you have this diagnosis it's for the rest of your life by the way this might come later. There is hope and your de your DNA is not your destiny.

And that gave me hope and um wanted to do the same to uh to do that. Um I lost my train of thought there for a second.

Well yeah you wanted to say this to me you said about yeah with with coaches just um as or from a coach's perspective now if you're in that spot you know as a client or just someone who is who is sick and um and you're you know going even through the Pompa method right through this through this process it takes time and it it is a process and I you I think what made me think of this was um God's purpose sometimes it is also a strategy and the way that he carries it out it it sometimes takes time

right it took time to get there as you say and it has so even now Dr. Pampa you know if you were to I just went to a hematologist and my parietal cells and my intrinsic factor is still very high.

Now I will tell you this I was just um shout out to BPE you know uh my pod group the best pod ever with Ian and Aaron and Whitney I had to I have to give a shout out but um and I was just recently told them of an update of of my story and um went to a hematologist just to you know let's just go I just want to see and everything came back except for intrinsic factor and parietal so that's still a a work in progress but my B twelve Not just normal, but like functionally.

SPEAKER_04

And people out there were like, well, that's it, just take B12. See, no, it's not it's not like that. No. Just so you know, it's not that simple.

SPEAKER_00

It's not. I was on B12 injections. Um even in the process of starting Dr. Pompa's program, right? And um was just now able to get off seven months ago. So seven months ago, and then um actually the only thing I take now is mitomethylator.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I was on sublingual B12 as well. But um now it was like, wow, look at that that number, like 900 something. I'm like, goodness.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00

Might wanna yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's awesome. You know, I it's like I I don't I don't want to leave this thing of identity, you know, because yes, it's like I people don't understand that when I I teach this, right? I teach that the closer you are to walking in your true identity. And I I don't think we're all there. You know, I'm thinking like I I'm getting every year I hopefully I get closer to my true identity, who God created me to be, right?

But the the closer you're walking to that is almost proportional to two things, your success and your happiness. When you see people who are just like not happy, they're just, you know, not in a great place in their life for many reasons. I always think what false identities are keeping them from where God wants them to be.

SPEAKER_00

Dr. Pompa, let me oh, that makes me think of something to relate to your R1, right? Your the root causes. And I that's what I say I love about um Dr. Pompa's program and what it's set apart. He gets to the root cause. But even going on a spiritual level, like your identity, right? Well, you know, what are those lies or false identities that have grown roots in your life that now you think are truth?

SPEAKER_04

It it becomes true to us. It is. I thought I was dumb because I couldn't read. I mean, you know what I'm saying? When you can't read, you're dumb. I don't care what you say. Oh, you're dumb, you can't read because that's a judgment of smarts, right? And then you can't learn other things. So you we believe them.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Yeah. Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04

And so you're saying those roots end up and rooted in our life like a toxin bioaccumulated, yes, that's keeping us from feeling normal, functioning the way God designed us to function, feeling great, thinking clear, right? But those false identities are just like those toxic roots.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. And I I can, I just I feel like this is so relatable in going back to what our thoughts are. You know, even like that's why something that really stood out to me was talk like your father. How would your father speak over you? And when he when it it says he sings over you. And you know, I had to realize what am I speaking over myself? How how do I see myself? Really, God, how do you see me? And that's a better question.

SPEAKER_04

God, how do you see me?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Yes, and just speaking that over your life each day. That and uh, you know, your thoughts matter, what you say matters, you matter, right? That kind of brings me to um a message that I would used to teach my kids, right? And tell them every day is, you know, in case anyone hasn't told you, you matter. But going from that philosophy of what are you speaking over yourself every day? What are your thoughts? It's the first start of your day. You know, what are you grateful for?

SPEAKER_04

So and even just it was I as I think about why I mean, those words were spoken over me for you know years to from my wife, right? That you're gonna take a message to the world, right? Even when I'm like, she's right, you know, here I am, right? It's like I still didn't see myself that way. Right. You know, it was like so when I did that exercise, you know, and I did my own my own mastermind, I stepped into it. I really and I had to change the way I spoke about myself to the point.

I had to speak the way the my father created me for. Yes. I am taking a message to the world. I am called to take a message to the world, right? It's like that's why I'm here, that's why I exist. God was designed for it, I was created for. That is stepping in. I just got goosebumps. That's stepping into the promise. And what do I always say about when we're about ready to step into a promise God has for us? What happens? I mean, you better get ready. You better get ready.

The resistance happens, the fear, the doubt, that the you know, absolutely. But God God sends us someone to speak what words to us? Yes. What words? Rock amat amot. Yes. Rock kazak amats, which the English translation in your Bibles is be strong and courageous, but it's so much more than that. It means really that you know the Hebrew translation is God stepped in for you. He already put you there. Absolutely. All you have to do is trust him and follow him, and it's his strength, not mine.

And here Israel is about to step into the promise God gave them. You know, 40 years wandering the desert. Here they are, and all they saw was 31 armies, right? All they saw is the excuses not to go. All they saw was, you know, and they made complaints to you know Joshua and Moses, right? But Rakhazakamatz, remember, God spoke through Moses to Joshua, Rakh Azchemats, Joshua to Israel, Rakh Azakamatz Israel, meaning follow me, and it's me, not you.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and he and even to his disciples, he said, take courage, right? Yeah, you know, it didn't he didn't say take control. He said, take courage, because who's with I'm with you, right? And I also thought about Gideon too. Remember when he was threshing the wheat, he was hiding, yeah, right? Someone who's we think of hiding is you know, timid, shy, scared, but he calls him a mighty warrior. Yeah, he calls him what he is as what he doesn't feel though.

SPEAKER_04

And what did Gideon say, wait a minute, I'm from the weakest tribe. Why do you say this? Yes, yeah, and but what but what God said was really rock is locked. He said, Oh no, wait, hold on a second. You have no nothing to fear because it is in my strength. That's right. You will fight.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. Yes, good stuff.

SPEAKER_04

It is, yeah, it is good stuff. No, because see, I I see I just got goosebumps again because people are trapped in. We all get trapped in false identities, and it keeps us from where God wants us to be. Yeah. Even in healing, yes, people get we get false identities around, you know. Uh oh, I, you know, I am a diabetic. You're not a diabetic. No, you know, don't define yourself like that, right? It's like I am autoimmune. No, you're not.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you for bringing that up. Ian and I were talking about that just recently, too, where we don't call it my or mine. We don't give it those. It is, it is, you know, yes, I was diagnosed with that, but that's not what I Oh yeah, I can't eat that because of my autoimmune. Yeah, yeah. But uh, yeah, that I'm so glad that we we were bringing this up. And it and like I said, he's you know, Jesus tells his disciples in the middle of the storm, take courage.

And this was right after a miracle, too, right? Yeah, and then he calms the storm. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because it is when we're about ready to step in to further what God has for us, the promise, right? And and again, it's the the next promise, and I'm still leveling up myself. You know, the fear in fact does come, right? So for you to be the, you know, to take the step, you know, from the teacher, you know, obviously, from the teacher to the patient or the client to the um, you know, the certification into the coach, you know, what type of fears did you have?

You know, because you were stepping further into an identity.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, absolutely. So I mean, just the fear is if this is for me, right? Or is this, yeah, it works for other people, but is it gonna work for me?

SPEAKER_04

That was I that's normal fear. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, is it am I am I doing it fast enough? It's uh like that's something I see even as like from a different hat when you wear that coach's hat too, and that's some encouragement I wanted to share too was because you think, well, am I doing it fast enough? This thought that, well, maybe because I'm not on that speed or that level then and or things aren't coming at a certain pace that maybe it's not for me, right?

SPEAKER_04

When Yeah, see these are these are the little things that the enemy puts in our minds because you know, he didn't want you to get there. So it was doubt, doubt, doubt, doubt, doubt.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and like you said, an unworthiness of what you know, if I could be a mother or if even to ask for healing, if that's something that um I could have a desire for.

SPEAKER_04

So how did you break through those fears, those doubts, those oh I don't think that that was I think sometimes I still going through breakthrough, right? Yeah, we no, we don't have going through a breakthrough. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Um even just being able to be on your, you know, your podcast, like just um I I'm gonna laugh about this.

I had a dream one time, I'm gonna meet Dr. Pompa, but it was probably because I was so excited when we had our interview that first time on Zoom when I was going through health centers, and maybe because we had the interview or whatever, but I was like, I'm gonna meet him one day and had a dream that I did, but but what was that was funny, but in the dream I just remember being just so thankful and I just want to take this moment and just say, I'm I'm just so thankful for what you're doing and

how you are helping others and just saying again, saying yes to the calling because it's like I said, Well, likewise, you said yes to the calling because again, I need we need thousands of you, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So please, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

True, true. And you know, I just the fears of can I get it all done? Um, there's a there is a lot, it can be a little bit overwhelming when you I remember first starting off as a client and you know, watching the modules, which I'm a lifelong learner, love to learn, but uh I remember thinking, goodness, this is quite a bit. But it's a it's a process and it's a journey, and it's not to it doesn't not have to be rushed and it can you can take your time.

I remember going through the pantry and just of course the first thing we got out was any bad seed oils, right? Um, but then progressively just getting, you know, making swaps with our foods, um, making good, better, best options in what we eat. Um, you know, even just what we cooked in and um diet variation. I had a misconception about that. I honestly at first I just thought tell them what diet variation is, but I want to hear your misconception.

SPEAKER_04

I can't wait to get it.

SPEAKER_00

Diet variation was was let's just mix it up. Let's have some greens and let's have different vegetables on each night and maybe some different meats, and we'll just have different food. Different. I just thought variation was different.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, which arguably that's variation, but that's not what I mean. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Right. But it's definitely like, for example, if you know, like Benazati, and he says it too, with starting a carnivore diet, great for autoimmune, right? Which I'm excited about doing after I'm done nursing. But um, but even so, not to stay on that for a long period of time. Change it up. It gives those stressors to your microbiome so that you can adapt, right? Changing up 4-1, you know, the 422 or the 5-1-1. Do some intermittent fasting, but remind your body that you love to feed it.

Yeah, right? Feasting up in those diet variations as a weekly diet variation, right?

SPEAKER_04

Days you feast, yes, days you famine.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and I love the idea too, especially just um learning more. I'm currently reading the um you know, Mindy Pelz's book, so and learning more about how just so I can as be the best coach that I can, especially for our women too, and when to when to fast, when to eat.

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Right.

SPEAKER_04

And when Mindy came to my first seminar, she was sat in the front row and she was just eating the whole seminar. And I re I remember she tells the story of when she like looked around and realized that she's the only one eating. Because that seminar we I was teaching a lot of fasting, diagnosis, right? And she didn't know anything about fasting, and but she didn't realize that we actually practice it, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So it's like here she was, like just pigging out the whole time. That's hilarious. Yeah, yeah. She's done such a great job of spreading the mission, the the, you know, and another misconception I had was fasting.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I thought it was eating less, which yes, there's days when or times you have like a partial fast or one meal a day, but just the even when you're intermittent fasting to still just eat less often. Not eating less, but less often. Yeah. That was a game changer.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, right. Because if you just eat less all the time, the body's metabolism will slow down. So, but if you eat a meal to full, yeah, it doesn't think it's starving. So the idea is you eat less by eating less often. Yeah. And then you actually start to lose weight, right? Yeah. So yeah, but you don't lose your metabolism. So that's the that's the key. I I think it it's normal we all have doubts, right?

Especially when we're moving into a new place where God wants us, a new identity, stepping in. What were some of your doubts? I know you had it, because I just heard your husband say, she sometimes has doubts. I'm like, yeah, that's normal. I still have doubts.

SPEAKER_00

Oh gosh, all the time, right? Just doubts, even coming on to see you, Dr. Pampa. It's like, am I gonna get, you know, are my words gonna fit right? Or am I am I gonna stumble? Am I gonna say um a lot? Or doubting if if, you know, and he called me to come on to his podcast, you know, things like that too.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, these are all normal things, right? Public speaking is the greatest thing.

SPEAKER_00

Public speaking is, yeah, that's one thing. And also like the season that you're in, and I'm sure other others out there can relate, like, is there a light for me? I I wanted to point something out in my in my journal that I noticed. Sometimes God will keep you in a season that may seem slow, but it's his love and steadiness that keeps you. Something your eyes do not see.

So there's something about your future that God knows, and God can give you a word suddenly, and a sudden word is from the steady hand. And but it's it's in that process, right, that we we do have those doubts in those moments, you know. And uh having those doubts of of you know read it one more time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You know, because just that was so it was so powerful because God can give you a word suddenly.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That just disrupts everything.

SPEAKER_00

There's something about your future that God knows. God can give you a word suddenly. A sudden word is from the steady hand.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Um, and well word for me that because he sees our fe he sees what we don't see, he sees our true identity, he sees what he called you to, he sees the promise the way you know we don't see it. So then therefore, he could change it like that. He did that in my life and yours.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like I have something from each stage. So as a client, um, I remember the word was live. I was listening to this song called Rattle, and I just kept hearing that word over and over. God said live. God said live. And it was the same day that I went to the hospital, feeling so low that it actually did feel like death. Like is, you know, B tw going back to B12, right? Your functional levels, you know, at least a minimum of 400, 500, right? But I was a six. So that was a word for me.

And I remember my friend coming to me and at the hospital, and she said, I just feel like temporary. This is temporary. But it's it's in that season too that it does feel slow. But God sees your future. God is, you know, he has the pen in his hand.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And um, and then as a client, uh going through health centers, that was, you know, am I this is a lot of information, right? I'm changing careers. Yeah. Changing careers. Yeah, that's the doubt, the doubt of I want to be when I do something, I want to be the best at it. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04

So am I gonna be good enough?

SPEAKER_00

Am I gonna be good enough? Right. Sounds like there's a theme here. And then even um as a coach, you know, knowing those, how to meet your clients individually and where they're at in the moment. Like, um, and I just I feel like it was a word that just advocate of there's you know, God is my helper, God is my advocate, and he will bring to remembrance, right? Yeah, and you know, just and he is our teacher. He will ultimately teach.

SPEAKER_04

What I'm always teaching training coaches or doctors, I'm always saying, meet people where they are. Yes, meaning you don't go at people with this, you know, carnivore diet when they're like, uh I'm still eating fast food, right? It's like, yeah, I mean, meet people where they are, small changes, you know, where they can handle their headspace, right? Bring them slowly up the ladder of healing.

SPEAKER_00

And it's okay that it's slow. Yes. It's okay. You're not, you know, if there's like this end goal, you're not missing it. It's wherever you are, it's therapeutic for you, whether that's dosing or whether that's a let's stick to just the basic cellular healing diet. It's okay. It's good for your body.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

And that was me. Yeah, I had to go low and slow, and I couldn't be where my husband was at the time. He got to do things at a different pace, but that's okay. It's it's back to you know, customization for where you're at in your journey too.

SPEAKER_04

So you know, um on that subject of just you know having doubts, and you know, I I think the answer is we all have doubts. Absolutely. You know, but it's trusting God in it that again, it's it's knowing your identity, right? It's knowing that I'm called to take a message to the world. I it's knowing that I'm called to do this, it's knowing that I'm just hanging on to this promise, right? My wife hung on to the promise that I'm gonna take a message to the world.

It's like, you know, but so but it's okay to have doubts. Yeah, but we hang on. But I I think when I do get the doubts, that is when I say, okay, Lord, you know, you have to make it right in me. Yes. You have to remind me. And it really goes back to hands. And what did Gideon do? You brought up Gideon earlier, right? Gideon said, Okay, all right, well, look, you're gonna have to show me then.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he did.

SPEAKER_04

He did. He said, Okay, basically, you know, you're going to have to, you know, absolutely confirm that this is you and that this is from you, right? I do that all the time.

SPEAKER_00

But isn't that amazing how God is? He'll he will meet you where you're like he even when we're not faithful, he is, or even when we're doubting, he still reveals himself. Yeah, and he he'll still show his just um unwavering love and kindness toward us and just his sweetness about him. Yeah. So yeah, oh gosh. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You know what's funny in that story of Gideon, too, right? Um, in the end, it Gideon did nothing but trust. I mean, he didn't have to think of to do anything fighting, right? And it was very clear that everything that he had Gideon do had nothing to do with power. Matter of fact, I I believe I it's been a while, but uh it's he wanted to go at it with this many men. And God said, no, it's this many. Yeah, no, it's this many.

SPEAKER_00

Because doesn't it go back to it's not about uh it's it's truly to see God's strength in it.

SPEAKER_04

That's it.

SPEAKER_00

Otherwise, we would get it.

SPEAKER_04

God didn't want him to think Israel to think for one moment it was their strength. It is absolutely not so taking too many men, taking too many.

SPEAKER_00

Uh the real I want to ask you a question. Uh-huh. So I love it. Did you have some doubts or some fears going making this documentary, this new Maha, uh Toxic Nation documentary?

SPEAKER_04

I I always have doubts and fears. Yeah. I mean, I'm being honest. I'm being honest. I do. I'm a documentary, by the way. Yeah, remember, I'm the dyslexic. I, you know, it's um I couldn't read, and you know, I was the dumb kid, right? I you know, it's like, but I wasn't. Now, so now I do know that my superpower was in my dyslexia. Yeah. You know, I I know now realize the reason I'm able to remember and have categories isn't as because of the way my brain works, right?

It just has trouble falling a line and reading, you know. Yeah. But um, but unfortunately, you know, that took some years uh to do. And I always still say every bad behavior I have as an adult still comes out of my insecurity from you know that, right? But you know, getting better. No, uh, you know, we still we all still have doubts. Uh you know, I look, I I know God when I early as a Christian, I had a vision of myself on television.

Yeah. And it wasn't an internet television thing because we didn't have that. I couldn't conceive it. But um, so even to this day, I know he's calling me to that. You know, it's like, but you know, I still have doubts, right? It's like, but yet I'm not shaking that vision he gave me. There's a promise there. Yes, you know, and I I always feel I am called to it. I'm gonna speak the way the what did you say? I'm gonna speak the way my father speaks it, you know, openly.

You know, I am called for that. Come on. I am called to take a message to the world, you know, and I am called to do that in front of that many people, right? I love that documentary by the way. So, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. So, I mean, so there I was, right? I would got to be, you know, in that documentary. Yeah. Toxic Nation, by the way, if you haven't seen it, but um, you'll see more of it. But uh, you know, blessed to be there because I'm taking a message to the world. That's right.

God designed me for it. He developed me for it, He gave me the skill sets for it. Yes. Right. So, you know, you're sitting here for a reason. You're sitting here because God said so.

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Right.

SPEAKER_04

Man. God planned it. God has purpose in you. He had purpose in everything he allowed in your illness. Every bit of it.

SPEAKER_00

And you know, I sometimes think about that and I'm like, it had to happen.

SPEAKER_04

You know, it had to happen. My sickness had to happen.

SPEAKER_00

To bring, you know, to so that we are I it was a client that I uh you know said, well, let me know what have you been through something like this? What what's your story? And I was so thankful that he that he asked that. He said, Because honestly, I need to know that somebody's been in the fire like me, that someone's in the fire with me. I'm like, I'm right there with you.

SPEAKER_04

I can never impact the people that I have impacted or will impact without going through it.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Because you can never truly relate, number one. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's always me scaling, oh no, I I know exactly how you felt. And then now there's trust and rapport. Yeah. Right. Now there's an ability to understand. Of course, I wouldn't have learned anything that I teach if I didn't go through it. So God allowed it. Right? God allowed it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. He allowed it in my life. God works all things out for good for those who love the Lord.

SPEAKER_00

There's a twenty-eight. When you say that, I always say that that is literally my life verse from going back to a lot, you know, and going back to the emotions that were my stressors, you know, that was a life verse for me. Um and just hanging on to his word.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. So Yeah, you know, and we can look back. I mean, I look all the way back to my dyslexia now and I go, Oh my gosh, yeah. I mean, it's like I'm able to do this because of it. Yeah. You know, it's like if only, you know how they sometimes say, like, what would you say to your six-year-old self, right? I would say to my six-year-old self, like, listen, you know, God is going to use this for something you're going to do here. So just you're okay. I made you like this. You're good.

That's your superpower, right? It's like you see it, all you see is the insecurity and like, oh my gosh, I wish I was like other kids. I wish I was smart. Like, I dreaded first day of school. I dreaded every day of school. Yeah. Just because there's embarrassments, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What growing up, did you um what was your growing up like?

SPEAKER_00

Now Dr. Pompa. Narrow it down for me. Like, you mean just in school?

SPEAKER_04

I mean, just growing up, period. Did you grow up in a good family? Did you grow up easy? Was it, you know, did you have hard stuff?

SPEAKER_00

Did you uh, you know, Well It wa it was challenging. And I think that's where another part of my story comes in. Um, definitely some stressors there, right? I think that were that were brought up definitely during um body and brain phase that some unsettleness or some things that I needed to to I guess go to God about really. It's it's not in our hands to deal with it, but to take it to God and and let go, to forgive. There were some things that needed to be forgiven.

SPEAKER_04

Um by the way, forgiveness is like detox.

SPEAKER_00

Oh gosh. That's quotable.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That is so true. It is. It wow. And even just learning what forgiveness is and what it is not.

SPEAKER_04

It's true.

SPEAKER_00

Um, that's been a huge thing. I've been reading a couple of books.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, people are like, I don't want to forgive them because I don't like that person. And I'm making it's a well, that has nothing to do with forgiveness.

SPEAKER_00

It's not a yeah, it's not about yeah, irrelevant. Yeah, and that unforgiveness can create a prison within ourselves, right? And just realizing it's not so much about the event, but just your heart and um trusting God with that event that happened, and not that it made that event right, but um allowing, you know, so you had you had uh event or some events.

SPEAKER_02

Some events.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Um so there were there was some abuse um as a kid.

SPEAKER_01

Family member.

SPEAKER_00

Um close a a close person that we knew that there was some abuse. Um and um just and it's it's funny you bring the or funny, it's interesting that you bring this up because this is part of the story that I would share with my students. And I would the way that I would bring it up was I want to just tell you a story about a girl who went, you know, in just her school.

And this I would share it in like the gymnasium with the kids, and I would share like there was this girl, and you know, she she battled with some things, you know, she had she was abused as a kid, and she um to remember just loving school. School was her safe place, right? And she would love getting to hear that um she'd get to stay after school and and you know, just the more times that she spent there, you know, and that was in elementary.

And then as she became in middle school, everything started changing. She had more teachers, she had lockers and um and you know, just more homework, right? Too, and all the things, and then just a story of gradually going and then to high school, first boyfriend, first job. And, you know, through that story, I would tell them how she would face challenges. And even though, you know, by middle school the abuse stopped, that she um she still faced the battle of herself with is she good enough?

Is is she the problem?

SPEAKER_04

Is you know, and because the abuse you think maybe it's it was you that was the problem or deserved it or something. Everyone thinks that is oddly absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

And just um at that time, not knowing um really my mother at the time and uh and then high school, there was I always had a had a relationship with my father. However, it became rocky, right? We have some rocky moments and um there was a separation time and there was a time I was by myself and having to figure things out um as far as getting to school, getting and being able to go to school after high school. I didn't think that that was a possibility.

Um that was I wanted to be a teacher, but I didn't know how I was gonna get there.

SPEAKER_04

W why didn't you think you'd be able to go to school after high school?

SPEAKER_00

Well, a lot of things, right? When you're in that mindset, I don't have money, I don't have a way to get there. I don't um am I gonna be able to graduate?

SPEAKER_04

Which as far as limited, limited beliefs, false ideas, limited beliefs, false ideas, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00

And um I had someone else that just changed the trajectory of my life, and it was uh it was my counselor, and she she took me, so to speak, under her wing and taught me how to interview, taught me, you know, took me out to buy me clothes. And um anyway, the story that I'm sharing with my students, they find out, you know, um, through the story I share fast forward. She hears her name and it's a graduation, Angela Ramey. At the time, Raimi.

And um, she walks across the stage, and then you see the kids, they're like, that's that's our teacher, right? But really to just show like they're not alone. I see you, I know that you're going through things, um, and it's not wasted what your story and anyway, so then I'm like fast forward and that's another example though of you able to utilizing your pain in a purpose.

SPEAKER_04

Here you are as an influencer, the teacher or the you know. Yeah, and you're making these kids are going, Oh my gosh, this is exactly what I fear.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, exactly. And you know, being able to relate to them and and then here she is, Miss Raimi, and she's been inspired by our students to write a book and you know, based off what she teaches them every day. And before they ever walk in the door to complete an assignment, they are humans and they are her kids first. You know, they're coming in with stories of their own. And um, I always would tell them that you matter in what you're going through.

SPEAKER_04

And um yeah, so I think that's but you would never be able to tell them that they matter or even think to tell them that they matter if you didn't go through the abuse you went through to think you might not matter. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because you know what I'm saying. Again, it's pain to purpose, right? Yeah, it's like we look for a purpose in our pain.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. And just um so through that, uh through that what I wrote I wrote a book. And it was funny because this was a group that I looped with, and we had set a goal the first year to write a book, and they all set their own goal. So they finally asked me, Well, Miss Raimi, when are you writing your book? And I said, I don't even know the title. And they go, We do. It's what you tell us every day. And I'm like, what? What what is that? You matter, and I'm like, Of course.

So I wrote wrote it and based it off, like you know, thinking back when I read it, even myself, it's it's a short poem, right? It's just that's what I would say to this little girl that you know your thoughts matter and what you're going through matters, and it's rocky right now, but you will come out. You know, it starts off um it's called Like a River, you matter. Yeah. I actually brought you a book because I wanted I wanted you to know.

Um, well, you matter, but um, you and Ben Azati have late lately, I've been watching your your videos too, and you talk a lot about you know gratitude and also not just gratitude, but your thoughts and how that they matter. And this goes to even you know your your clients as well, or just those in the Pompa program, those who are just are sick and needing some healing too. Yeah, your thoughts matter. Like that is the start of your day.

SPEAKER_04

Because your thoughts become you. Yes, they matter, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Love that, and uh but it's a it basically starts from like a small stream, and throughout the throughout the story, it becomes you know, your story is not wasted. It can look like a big, beautiful ocean in the end, right?

SPEAKER_04

Um Where can where can they get this?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's it's Amazon. I I didn't mean that for a plug.

SPEAKER_04

I really No, no, no. I I I want to put people are gonna ask. No, you don't understand. It's it's like people they want like they want to know, right? So on Amazon, they can get it on Amazon, right?

SPEAKER_00

But I wanted I wanted to give it to you because it I love how you definitely pre you know you you set this tone that how that does um make a difference. You know, what you put on repeat, that that feedback loop of your thoughts there. You know, we have feedback loops in our body, but it also is in our absolute spirit as well.

SPEAKER_04

Yep. Yeah, and I think you already gave some advice there, like you know, speak about yourself over yourself like the th the father would, right? Because you know, that's how we change our thoughts. Yeah, right. If we start speaking like God speaks of us, about ourselves and to ourselves, that changes our thoughts. If we change our thoughts, literally, it is a a signal that goes directly into the cell, and then your DNA literally starts to form different proteins, and those proteins become us.

Your thoughts change us. Read Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton. That is the science. That is not woo-woo. That is science. It's not woo-woo. I mean, you know, meaning you can sound like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we be you become your thoughts. Yes. You become your thoughts. Yeah. I listen, uh the the man, there's this man sitting over here, okay? He's our producer.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

He told me a story last night. And I told this story to my son, I told this story to my wife. So I said to him, I asked him the question, man, you're really driven. You know, how did you get here? Like, what did you do? Like, I just wanted to know more about him. He said, you know, I owe my success to my father. He was from Argentina, you know, hard upbringing. I think he lost his parents early in life, et cetera, et cetera. So he he said, and I said, Yeah, you know what?

I would say this similar about my father. I remember my father outside shoveling the driveway at like 4 30 a.m., you know, just to get out and go to work. And I remember rolling over and just communicated love to me. You know, it's like just something I watched my father bust his butt for our family all the time. That communicated love to me. But then he said, Yeah, but you know what? It's interesting because I have a twin sister and she's her life's very different.

She's on drugs, etc. And she would say, I blame my father for my my the life I'm living, for the life that I have. So the fact is, is he attributed his success to the father, she attributed her failure to the father. What does that tell us?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That tells us our thoughts are everything.

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I mean, it's like, so wait a minute, hold on a second. You know, if she'd have just changed her thoughts and perceptions about her situation and looked at her father differently, her life would be different. The answer is that the proof is yes, it would, because his is. Yeah. So his thoughts created his success and his life and his happiness. Her thoughts created hers. That's a powerful thought. And I dude, that's a powerful thought, man. Thank you for that. Yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and and just the fact that, you know, what you're thinking, like it goes back and it creates that groove almost like when, you know, those old desks that you put the pencil at the top of the desk, it creates that groove in your brain over and over and that feedback that you you tell yourself all the time. Um, and when you tell yourself one way or another, that that becomes that becomes your truth. And yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04

I'm I'm Yeah, that became her truth, unfortunately, right? It's like, you know, so I mean, look, I I mean, I could we could take that to another level, right? You know, you took that abuse and somehow you said, I'm gonna allow you I'm gonna make me myself better from it, right? You know, I thought to myself, I didn't matter, you learned that you do matter, and now you're changing lives because of it, right? Or it could have been the other way, right? You could have thought, you know, woe is me.

You could have thought, you know, I don't matter, you don't matter, no one matters, nothing matters, dah, dah, dah. You know, I'm saying so.

SPEAKER_00

That I'm meant to be alone, that I'm meant to be abandoned. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04

So in other words, our our thoughts or anything, you could take any situation and you could change your thought about it. Now, I'm not saying your situation, this situation is good. I'm not saying I'm not belittling it. I but the point is, is we still do have a choice of how we think about how we perceive it and then how that becomes us.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_04

Or not. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. Yeah. And there was there was a cute little exercise I I heard of uh like if you look in the room right now, I want you to pick out um everything that is white. Everything that is white, and just look in the room.

SPEAKER_05

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Now, close your eyes and tell me what was green.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because you what your thoughts were thinking was like, I gotta look for something that, you know, and it just something super simple, but it's kind of like relative to like what are your thoughts on? What are you focused on? Your focus becomes what your thoughts, your beliefs.

SPEAKER_04

That's a great little example, right? Because his sister's thoughts were, you know, too bad for me. To, you know, my father abandoned me, you know. So now I'm looking for abandonment, I'm looking for rejection, I'm looking for what you're looking for exactly. His thoughts were, you know, wow, you know, he sacrificed his life, you know, success, da-da-da-da. I'm gonna do the same. I'm not gonna let him down. I'm gonna make him happen. Yeah, that's yeah, that's powerful.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it created a life around it, right? You know, I how would you say this? You're your healing, well, let me back up. Your how much of that childhood, right? That experience, the the abuse, um played into your sickness, but then how you overcame it, how much of that played into your healing, would you say?

SPEAKER_00

Wow, that's a really that's a good question, Dr. Pompa. That's a good one. How did it play into my sickness? Well, I'm gonna go to body phase because I noticed um, you know, this is a big question too. What are the symptoms when you start detoxing? Which they're so individual for everybody. But I noticed my even would change from even prep phase into body, into, into brain. And it was what my thoughts were thinking.

And I noticed that, like you said, once you're starting to detox, those emotions will start coming out. And that's when I started thinking a lot about when I was younger and some things that had happened to me, and it just was all just coming up. Things that I thought I I thought had dealt with that, or um, but just such a a lot of conversations, a lot of time on my knees, a lot of you know, a lot of time in the word, a lot of a lot of crying. Um, even my symptoms at that time showed up.

I mean, I don't know if I don't know if it's TMI, but like a lot of bowel movements, so to speak, in in a it would it came out in other ways too.

SPEAKER_04

But um well, all the toxins come out, toxic thoughts, toxic emotions, toxins.

SPEAKER_00

And it's it was wild to watch that um just the you know, from here are some symptoms in this part of my journey of this phase or in this stage, right? And then and then it changed, and I think it was changing simply too because of what I was having to process through that. Um through that. And I think through my healing, um, really, Pompa, it just it goes back to it goes back to the Lord.

Because it is I would it wouldn't be any there would be no progress towards healing if it wasn't for him, you know, and what it's it's his word, it's his truth that g has given me the that um strength. It's his strength, right? It's not even it's not even me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I say the same thing always. It's it's it's like like I said, I can't not give him credit because I really believe in my heart of heart. It was him who showed me the way. It was him who put in my heart to teach this. It was him, it was I like I it's not just words.

SPEAKER_00

When you made a comment, you said you were in uh was it where you were on the plane and you felt like or somewhere God just downloaded the Rs teach.

SPEAKER_04

That was on a plane. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And I I just I related to that because I have felt, you know, God has done things like in that where I like the word downloaded, just he'll it because you know. Where started coming? Where did that come from?

SPEAKER_04

Pick up a tablet.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and you just start writing. And I feel like that's happened to me, not on a plane, um, but like 3 a.m. in the morning, he'll wake me up and I just I have to start journaling. And that's a lot too that was in my my healing for that is a lot of journaling. Um, like I brought mine today, just looking back at what he has revealed to me, revealed himself through me, and learning that he is my father and he is my protector. Amen. Yeah. Yep. And provider.

SPEAKER_04

So well, you're brave to come on, but God God uh he wouldn't have any other way. He brought you here because you're called to more. You are because you matter. It's the truth, right? Absolutely the truth. Well, give give them a word, right? Like because people are out there, they're either they're looking to step into a promise, the next level that have lev level up in their identity, or maybe they're sick looking for an answer. Yeah, right? One word to them.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, just one?

SPEAKER_04

Okay, I mean a sentence, uh not one word.

SPEAKER_00

Uh looking to hear if they're um oh gosh, let me let me just Yeah, yeah, think about it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's like what would you say to that person if I said to you, Angela, I I just um I feel like I'm I lost hope. You know, it's like I feel like I just I don't have confidence anymore. I I don't I don't see God in any of it. I can't imagine him being in this, it's horrible. What would you say to me?

SPEAKER_00

That's good. Well, I'm gonna break the rules because I might not just do it in a word or a sentence.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, I don't want it one word. I I meant like a a word. Oh, I got like God gives us a word, not like one word, but a sentence.

SPEAKER_00

It probably feels when you're in that moment that you feel like you're in pieces, right? The part of you that where where have you gone? Um I used to be able to do this, um, and now I can barely do this, right? Fill in the blank. He's the God of pieces. I recently just heard a message about that, and it's so wonderful how he can take brokenness um and show his majesty and his glory and through you allow him. You know, uh, what was it? Ian and I were talking.

And it was on the it was on the David perceived he was king. You know, it there's one there's on one side it's it's maybe easier to have faith in God compared to having faith that God will use you through this and that what he's doing through you, just trust him in that, right? In the storm. Can I tell you something? I know this is maybe trivial to some people, but I get so nervous on a plane. Well, I was thinking about the disciples.

I was just reading where they had just watched Jesus break bread and feed five thousand. He is the God who provides, he is there, and then he has seen him do miracles, and now they're on the the he sends them away, they fed them, it's dark, they're outside on the boat, and there's right, there's a storm and they get afraid. But I'm like, why would you be afraid? Jesus is right there. You're here. I am on a plane.

SPEAKER_04

He was gonna let you die, it'll let you die back there, right?

SPEAKER_00

But I get but I have the same things like mine is a plane. I get nerfed coming here. I'm like, Lord, you must have brought me here. So I'm gonna trust that you're gonna land this plane safely because I'm supposed to have a conversation with Dr. Pompa.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you're gonna bring me safely, right? This turbulence is a little bit uh making me uh feel a little unwavering here, you know.

SPEAKER_04

But uh But you know, but isn't that exactly what we always have to do? Meaning we have to anchor into a promise. Yes. In in understanding what he's doing and anchor into that, and then we don't have the fears anymore. Yeah, because the plane wrecking is like, okay, well then that makes you know it all a lie, and then uh if the plane wrecks, then so be it at that point. But no, I'm trusting that God is doing more.

SPEAKER_00

It's a it's a surrendering, isn't it? It is, and that's a scary thing because I'll I'll let's be real, I like some form of control. So but it like I said, take courage.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, fear is about control, but faith is about letting go. Yes and letting God, right? Yes, that's like and trusting him. And by the way, that's what he wants always. He just wants us to trust him at the next level.

SPEAKER_00

And here's here's speaking of next level, having Bo, you know, I thought, oh man, just now being um a mom. And I I remember being just afraid of having, you know, uh giving birth. And that that that's that's another story. But that was like it's afterwards when you're like, oh my goodness, I'm I'm responsible. I'm responsible.

SPEAKER_04

And and I who said this if it was part of a comedy act or something, I don't know, maybe they said, I could we had our baby, and I couldn't believe they were letting us leave the hospital with this baby. Meaning like, right? Like we weren't quite they should have never let us leave. We weren't equipped for this.

SPEAKER_03

Like that was a big like, you know, can you believe they're actually letting us leave with this shit?

SPEAKER_00

And just knowing that God is God loves your baby just as much if or it more, um, that was a huge revelation for me. Just, oh my gosh, I love this baby so much. How much more does God love us and protect us? And you know, oh, that was huge. That was a big win.

SPEAKER_04

You know, if we just trust him with it, right? I let me can I tell you my little lesson of faith? Yes. I maybe you heard his tail of story, but here I am in Africa, right? I get invited into the like the back, back, back, back country of Africa, right? Eight hours into the bush, okay? And where we're on a double road, single road, dirt road, no road. And then we I meet this tribe, you know, way back in the bush. And they were the fur first white person they ever saw, trust me.

And it was just, I learned so much. As a matter of fact, I learned a lot about diet. I switched my paradigm because of this. One of the things that was said to me was, you know, this tribe, they they don't, they barely eat, but yet they have no diseases of the other tribes that were modernized, right? No diseases. They didn't have words for the diseases. I mean, I I was fascinated by them, right?

To the point where I came back the next year and I brought them like all kinds of cool things because the the kids were playing soccer with this rolled up thing. They didn't have the soccer, I bought them soccer balls, but it was so cool and fun. But anyways, so here we are coming out of the bush, right? Now hold on. I I missed one point. On the way in, when I said there was no road, it was massive rocks, we got a flat. Oh, goodness.

And I'm saying I said, well, you know, hopefully we have two spares when you come out in the bush. You, I'm sure you have two spares. No, no, we had one. So we have no spare now? Okay, didn't like that. So, okay, on the way out, I'm up out of the land cruiser and I thought, wait a minute, this is the same rock garden that we got the flat in. I know, I remember, right? Yeah. And I'm telling you, no sooner than I had the thought, I hear it. And I said, I think we have a flat.

And you have to understand, I'm flying out the next day. So I'm thinking, all my brain was thinking is how am I gonna get we're we're trapped. We're eight hours in the bush. You don't have to, there was no other car. There's no car, there was no other trucks, nothing. Yeah, we were way out, out, out. And I'm thinking, we're done. Okay, so you have to understand the gentleman who brought me out here was his name is Pastor Gatsy.

In Zimbabwe, there was um uh Mingabe, who was the most one of the most wicked dictators who killed all kinds of people, and then there's Gatsy, who was the opposite, right? But both were like equally famous for the good and for the bad, right? So Gatsy was known in as man of faith. When this guy walks in the room, you know you're in the presence of like someone like great, and you know, you just listen type thing. So this man of faith, you know, who I had so much respect for, I'm full of doubt.

I'm thinking we're dead. I'm what are we gonna do? I I how we could be here weeks. I mean, what we have no way of getting out. This is all my thoughts. Okay. He steps out of the vehicle. You know what he says? Hmm. I wonder what God has for us.

SPEAKER_00

What's in store? What you up to, God?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It was his first thought. Wow.

SPEAKER_04

So I literally wanted to go off into the woods. Hopefully, a lion would just eat me, or I'd just beat the crap out of myself. I felt so small. My faith felt so crippled. I mean, I like I just was like, I didn't care. I'm telling you, I I if a lion came, I'd just be like, eat me, because I'm such a failure. Anyway, we go walk up like 200 yards, and there's the You meet somebody by an appointment.

SPEAKER_00

Come on, come on.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, here it is. You ready? I'll get right to it. I'll get right to it. So there's these mud huts, and uh I remember them coming in. And so we walk up to these huts. Hello, hello, and you know, Swahili probably said, and this woman comes out, her eyes big as saucers, and she says, Pastor Gatsy. And and I and she had just came back from a week of travel hitchhiking, this, that, get she went to the conference that I spoke at, that he was at, just to see him.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

SPEAKER_04

Her friend was a witch doctor. She wanted to bring her friend who canceled at the last minute. Okay, she was distraught about it, but on her knees praying that you know, God, you must have purpose in it. Okay, well, so the man that she was taking her friend to go see to get set free from witchcraft, okay, now is standing at her door.

SPEAKER_00

Well, he do it, okay.

SPEAKER_04

Uh-huh. Yeah. And so, long story short, okay, and it's it she goes and gets her friend, okay. Yeah, brings her back here. Say it. And he prays over her. She's set free. This all happened.

SPEAKER_00

That's so amazing. And you got to experience it.

SPEAKER_04

I watched the whole thing. Oh, there's one other funny part of that story because we're sitting around and you know, and she goes and gets it. And I mean, you could feel the demonic presence when this woman showed up, right? So I'm sitting here thinking, I can't wait to see what he does, right? I can't wait. Like, I I could see a confrontation coming. I I mean, I was like scared. I was like this. And he this is what happened. He looks and he goes, Dr. Pompe, but God's given you the word.

And I'm like, Yes, see, I didn't hear that. I I I have nothing. That's what I I mean, literally, I'm like, I go, I've got nothing. It's like, didn't give me the word. I assure you, you have it. I don't have he's like, he's given you the word. And he hands me the Bible, and I just go like that eye opening. I just started reading, and it was the word. And then he spoke about it. Wow. And she was transformed. God has purpose in it.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, he does.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you for being here. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your pain to purpose journey. Thank you for being a coach. Now you're changing lives. You're serving in a level that is bigger than you and I.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04

Serving this mission is bigger than any of us.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Thank you for having me on. I I want to tell you something. You know, I can probably speak for most coaches too. We're very grateful for you. We're um thank you for leading us and thank you for praying for us too. That's something that stands out to me that you always pray for us. You know, your prayers.

SPEAKER_04

I do. I prayed for you all this morning.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I would was gonna ask, you know, uh if we if we could pray, if I could pray over you or pray for you, you know, before before we before we leave, before we head out.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, thank you. I would love that. Yeah, absolutely. I love when that happens.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So thank you for that. And thank you for again sharing. You were so open.

SPEAKER_00

Speaking of prayer, real quick, because it reminds me, um, because uh last time we we spoke on on the Zoom, we talked about books, and I asked you what books are you reading? And you said the prayer of the the priestly prayer of the blessing. Oh, yeah, as something that I have started now. Like I just pray a blessing. Yeah, over my family, over Bo. So thank you for that.

SPEAKER_04

That was that was a good yeah, Lord, bless and keep us. Yes, shine your face upon us, be gracious to us, Lord, lift your countenance, your favor upon us, and give us shalom. Yes, yes, and that prayer was the only prayer written by Yeshua himself, God, you know, himself, I should say Yahweh. But yeah, that that's the priestly prayer.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I do that now with Overbow, so I love it. That was a good that's something that I want to I as a just continual thing, I want to do. So yeah, awesome.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you better like and share this because you heard stories that um are gonna change lives, and that's why we do this. So um share, please. Like and share another episode of the Pompa podcast, another example of pain to purpose to promise. And there's a promise for you, Rakha Zakamatz. Remember, just about when you're ready to step into the next promise God has for you. We hear fears, we hear adversity, we think it's not gonna it's not you, it's God. Let him step in, rakazakamats.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you.

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