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HOW TO BUILD A HOUSE THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU SICK

May 13, 20261 hr 8 min
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Your home could be affecting your gut, brain, sleep, and energy more than you realize.

Designer Jeremy Miller joins Dr Daniel Pompa to explain how mold, poor indoor air quality, hidden moisture, and toxic building materials can contribute to brain fog, fatigue, anxiety, insomnia, and chronic inflammation. Jeremy shares his own journey through severe gut issues and unexplained symptoms before discovering the impact of mold exposure, heavy metals, and environmental stress inside the home.

The conversation also breaks down healthy home design, including why modern buildings trap moisture, how mold develops behind walls, and what materials and ventilation systems can create a cleaner living environment. They also explore non toxic building materials, air quality, and simple ways to make your home feel more restorative and supportive for long term health.

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Transcript

Indoor Air Can Be More Toxic

SPEAKER_01

The indoor air is seven times more toxic than the outdoor air on the worst day in LA. If you design with that intention for your home to be a temple, your wellness center to be a temple, your office to be a temple, it could actually connect you with natural rhythms and cycles, which are so good for the body.

Dr Pompa

And I want people to hear that too, because rarely is it one thing. It's a perfect storm.

SPEAKER_01

We all have symbols in our lives that remind us of our strength or give us purpose or like have meaning to us and like the way you incorporate all that, what some people will call sacred geometry, into a design.

Dr Pompa

People are pushed aside as crazy, and they spend years and years and years searching for the answers.

SPEAKER_01

My mission is to help the world get healthier through the spaces we inhabit, the structures that we occupy heal rather than harm.

Dr Pompa

One of my past clients, paying to purpose, now building safe homes. Actually, he's the architect. Okay, we're gonna learn all about the pitfalls of homes, buildings, why they're making people, why they're making people sick potentially, and why people don't know everything that people miss, everything that builders miss, we're gonna discuss. But this is a big show because anxiety,

Meet Jeremy Miller And The Stakes

fatigue, unexplainable gut problems, brain fog, can't sleep, aches and pains, it all could be your building, your home, your workspace. So Jeremy Miller, welcome.

SPEAKER_01

And just one thing, make sure you say designer, because I can't use the term architect until I officially have my license. Designer. Designer. Designer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I am an architect, and yeah, in two years I'll be able to use it, but designer for now.

Dr Pompa

Well, I mean, all of this came out of pain to purpose. Uh, you were my client back in uh night, uh we said 19, 2019.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

And um talk about that. Talk about where your symptoms started, where it all started, and then we can go into this because everything that you've learned, it is pain to purpose. You've learned it. People are sick unknowing because of their building. And then you're gonna tell them the things they need to do,

When Mysterious Gut Symptoms Escalate

look for how to make their home safe. But all right, where did it start?

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know, when I when I got into my mid-20s, I started getting really sick. Uh I remember moving back to Columbus, Ohio. So I went to Ohio State University, did a little bit of traveling after after university, ended up back in Columbus, and was renovating an old home with a friend of mine. And it was probably around 24, 25, I first started having the gut issues. Uh really bad GI distress, constipation, diarrhea.

I mean, you name it, just really bad GI distress, chronic fatigue, uh, bloating. I used to get I used to get so bloated that I thought I was pregnant.

Dr Pompa

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh it looked like I was pregnant. It was it was really wild. Um and it just started accelerating. It started accelerating through my mid-20s. I found myself in the emergency room a couple times because my GI distress was so severe, and I thought maybe an organ was rupturing or something was seriously wrong. But I remember going to the ER and they took a look at me and and it wasn't just bloating and pain, like my lips would go numb, my whole face would be tingling, my arms would go numb.

There was one time my buddy drove me to the ER and I couldn't lift my arms and I couldn't feel my face, and my stomach was so swollen, and I was just feeling miserable. Um and it just got really, really hard. And I would go to the ER and they do some scans, run some tests, and they're like, Oh, you're just constipated, nothing's wrong with you. I was like, okay, I think something else is going on here. And so I went and saw some some doctors at Ohio State University.

They referred me to a GI specialist, did some tests for like H. pylori and a couple standard things, everything looked normal. And I remember I remember particularly with the GI specialist, I was talking with him and I was saying, you know, I just don't think it's as simple as if something's if you eat something and it doesn't make you feel good, stop eating it. That's kind of what they told me. Yeah, and I and I kept pressing them and I was like, by the way.

I was like, man, it that just can't be it. And I kept pressing for answers, pressing for answers, and the guy got heated with me and raised his voice and kind of you know, just put me down. And so at that point I realized, okay, I'm gonna have to figure this out on my own. So I started listening to podcasts. I was like, okay, I know it's the gut. And when I say like severe pain, uh, I mean, there were days where I couldn't get out of bed, couldn't get off the couch.

Um, I became self-employed so that way I could work from home and essentially be sick. Um, and nothing seemed to be working, but something in my mind reminded me, like, okay, it's something in the gut, like something's going on with my gut. Like that was the biggest signal that I can understand. So I started doing a lot of research. And when I was doing all that research, I found Dr. uh Natasha Campbell McBride, I think was her name, in a gaps diet.

And so I started making all my own bone broth soups. I started making homemade uh sauerkraut and started making sour cream. And it was wild because I was doing what I thought was all the right things, everything that I was reading. Uh I learned about ketogenic diets, started doing keto, eliminated all the sugars, did everything that I could, and as far as what I understood about the gut, but I just kept getting sicker and sicker.

Um I'd be working some days and I would have what I feel like I would call an IQ drop, where it just felt like my IQ or my cognitive capacity dropped. Yeah. And I couldn't think straight to save anything.

Dr Pompa

Happened to me too. Bad feeling.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it was terrible. And and I pretty much got to the point where I thought maybe I'm gonna die. Like I ended up in the emergency room again, and it was it was just really, really severe and painful and tough and confusing, and trying to do the right things, going to see doctors, but essentially just getting yelled at and dismissed.

Dr Pompa

Um Yeah, I went through the same process. Yeah. You know, you think that, you know, hey, I'm gonna go to this expert, that expert, if you know, and you you do, you get dismissed. And eventually I just started they just start insinuating I was crazy, you know. So which which at that point I probably was, but right, but that's not why I was sick. I became

Dismissed By Doctors And Searching Alone

crazy. So yeah, so you didn't find answers. When did you find me? I I mean, how did that even take place?

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, so I bring up the the gaps diet because I started researching Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride, and I found an interview that you did with her when you had cellular healing TV.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

And so I I listened to the interview and I was like, man, who's this Dr. Pompa guy? And I started looking at your website and reading about your story. I was like, huh, this sounds like me. This sounds like me. Like that what he's talking about in the story. Sorry, sitting here listening to you. I'm like, that sounds like me.

Yeah. Yeah. And then and just so I started listening to your podcast and sell you their healing TV, and I learned about Zach Bush, and I think it was called Restore back then. And started taking that. But all the time, I mean, just getting sicker and sicker. Um, and I and I started, I had a girlfriend at the time, and we, you know, we had just started dating. And I like I said, I became self-employed, so I could essentially be sick and work from home.

And when I then I started dating and having a girlfriend, she started seeing my life and she started seeing what's going on. She's like, What's going on? Like, you're just lying on the floor. I was like, I can't move, like I'm just like incapacitated. She's like, Does this happen all the time? I'm like, Yeah, a few times a week. She's like, That's that's not normal. You lost that girl. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we we dated for a while, actually.

Um but she was she was a influence in the way she's like, you you can't just keep trying to figure this out yourself. Like you gotta get some help. And I was like, Well, there's this guy, like, I've been following his website, and it sounds like he's like the one person I've read. I'm like, this is starting to connect some dots for me. And so I pretty much put a plea to help email in through your website, like, I think I'm dying, I don't know what's going on. I read your story.

It sounds very similar to what I'm experiencing. Like, will you help me? And then I remember a few days later, I got an email from Mary Lee.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

She kind of explained uh the health coaching program and what was going on and what that looked like and the commitment. And I said, Yeah, I mean, please. Like at this point, I'm willing to do whatever it'll take.

Dr Pompa

In in short order, in our first meeting, I remember

Mold Illness And The Perfect Storm

saying, Man, you you you're biotoxic illness here. You're you've got, you know, I started asking questions about your house, your environments. Do you, you know, do you recall the conversation?

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh yeah. And, you know, things that like I just really hadn't thought of before. Nobody else had ever asked me those kind of questions.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. I mean, and that's that's the thing is mold illness. Uh I mean, some people it's complicated by heavy metals and other hidden infections. And I call that a perfect storm. But it's it really goes unnoticed. People are pushed aside as crazy, and and they spend years and years and years searching for the answers.

And then even if they move out of that moldy home, they remain sick because of all of the cellular processes that are broken, all of the damage that's done, their brain literally, they get misdiagnosed with different things, they end up on medications, they end up still sick. And then they end up with massive mold sensitivity to where they're moving in and out of other mold exposures, not knowing why they're bad and having bad days. Oh, I thought I was getting a little better.

They end up chemically sensitive, going, oh my gosh, this fragrance, that fragrance. I mean, that that is just a very short description of what happens in a mold person's life. Some people are out there right now still in that process, not even knowing that they're biotoxically ill, because you didn't smell mold in your house, right? Right. You didn't see it, I'm sure, right? Am I right? Right. And even if you suspected it, most people bring an expert in.

I put quotes around that, do an air test, and it's fine. So they go on going, well, it wasn't mold. And that's the sad reality of biotoxic illness created by mold. That was your story in a nutshell. And the mercury too. Is there anything you want to add to that?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, my mercury levels too. I know that's what I said.

Dr Pompa

That's why I added that because that was me as well. I had major mercury, which made me even more sensitive to the mold. And I want people to hear that too, because rarely is it one thing, it's a perfect storm, right? I was doing a lot of heavy training at the time. Uh I was a cyclist, which is a physical stress. I had extreme levels of mercury, and I was living in a low-grade moldy home. Boom, my life went out.

That's why our stories, you had high mercury, you had mold, and your third stress, I can't remember. There was probably another one in there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but those were those were the big ones. And then the mercury, too. I remember because you know, I had never heard of that. And uh, you guided me do doing the test, and I send my results in, and they were so off the chart. And uh, but I didn't know what that meant. And I sent my results in and I got I got a one-word email reply, which was wow. Yeah. I was like, oh no, that's not the thing that you want to hear. That's actually the exact opposite thing that I want to hear.

And then, you know, when we spoke, you said my levels were some of the highest you'd ever seen. Yeah.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. And that's that was me, right? I mean, I I had extreme levels of mercury, most of which was in my brain. Um, and again, set me up for mold sensitivity, set me up for really all you know, all kinds of chemical sensitivities. And my bucket was full. Your bucket was full. How did we get our lives back? We emptied the bucket. You know, we got ourselves in a safe environment, we got the mercury out of our

Detoxing Heavy Metals And Hidden Infections

brains, and it took years.

SPEAKER_01

It yeah, it was a dedicated two-year process, uh, two-year process of detoxing, fasting. We saw Dr. Curatola in New York City and had the cavitation procedure.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, and what we mean by that is now these infections that are in the jaw where teeth are removed, potentially a wisdom tooth, that's the most popular area because it leaves a big gap, heals over, no pain, but infection lies there, even biotoxins and all these things. And and it could not, it may not be the thing that made you sick or you know, me or someone else, but it keeps us from getting well.

So I've learned over the years that you have to really take this multi-therapeutic approach, deal with all of these things, and then people get well. Right. So we had to deal with the heavy metals, we had to deal with those hidden infections, we had to deal with your environment. Yeah. And then we had to deal with what was accumulated in your cells. And that meant we had to fix what was broken in the cell. That's my saying, you have to fix the cell to get well. Yeah. Here you are.

SPEAKER_01

Alive and kicking.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, alive and kicking. So yeah, so we went through the detox process. You still, I'm sure you like me, you still do cycles just like I did. I did one last week. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, even when I traveled abroad, I ended up living in Peru, took my box of detox supplements with me. Uh-huh. I did too. Did you do in the infrared saunas and the Epsom salt baths and all of it, yeah.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, I mean, you know, I these are things that I'll never stop doing because the amount of chemicals that we're exposed to today is unlike any time in human history. I mean, after World War II, when uh, you know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. right now, who's doing an amazing job, is explaining to people what happened in the last 60 years. This is what happened. It's the chemical revolution, folks. You know, it's the fact it's not just eating processed foods.

There's countries that eat more processed food than us. It's what it's carrying in. Processed food used to have three, four ingredients. Now processed food has a list of ingredients, all of which are chemicals and all of which are excitotoxins and uh endocrine disruptors and making America fat, making America trashed in their gut, where more pesticides than ever in the food. So it's not just processed food. This is about the chemicals in the food and our environment.

So let's kind of let's get into that because how did you transition from the guy getting his life back? Um, which by the way, pain to purpose. I that's what I love because I everyone that sits in these chairs has a story, honestly. I just love to talk about it because it I want people to always be encouraged because right now there's a lot of people watching this that are trying to figure something out, right? Honestly.

And I always say, in it, there's a purpose for you beyond you, typically for somebody else. Well, that was your story. Tell it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So, like I said, I'd been so focused on the food. And I back then I was strength training and doing all the things that I thought for healthy. And then when I met you and you started guiding me through the detox and this whole awareness of environmental toxins, uh, shifted things big time for me. And I'd gone to architecture school at Ohio State uh back in 2005. And at the time I was working for a design-build construction company and learning how buildings actually get built.

Laguna at that time? Columbus. Columbus, Ohio.

Dr Pompa

Ohio, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So I went to Ohio State and then was working in Columbus, Ohio. And actually, when I called you, I had designed and built my first house. And so I started developing this passion for homes. Uh, but even in even in the new home, that's not always uh the best environment. And so right after I completed the coaching program with you, I went on a journey with my partner at the time.

And we had a van and we traveled around the country and got to learn live in a bunch of different cities, ended up landing in Austin, Texas, you know, all the while continuing to do the fasting and the detoxing and just changing my whole lifestyle and really understanding this concept of the fasting for me was really profound, understanding getting in touch with natural rhythms and cycles, and that the artificiality of always being able to go to the grocery store and get the food all year round.

So the fasting was this getting in touch with the natural rhythm and cycle, but also thinking

Peru Adobe Homes And Feeling Normal

of the natural rhythms and cycles of like nature, not just like within the body, but actually within nature. And so after I spent time in Austin, connected with a really great community there, went to Peru, went on a trip to Peru. That's awesome. And I ended up living in Peru for a year and a half with my partner at the time and living in Adobe Homes. And it was amazing. Was in Cusco region.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, you want to talk about natural airflow. Oh man. You want to talk about materials that get wet but dry. You want to talk about non-toxic materials. Non-toxic. You want to talk about grounded. You want to talk about, yeah, I mean, you know, being one with the earth. You know, I always say it's like if you just, if you can't figure out an answer, uh, just move to a place like that and stay in a you know, a little adobe home like that. You know, anyway. Oh my gosh.

Sorry to interrupt you, but I I just thought that was the coolest thing.

SPEAKER_01

It was so cool. I mean, and it was incredibly transformational because uh one, in a completely different culture, completely different language, not getting like the traditional messaging, completely out of my rhythm and cycle that I was in and in this completely new one. And and we were way high up in the mountains, too, at about 10 to 12,000 feet above sea level in the Cusco region. And it was beautiful and inspiring, but I just noticed with this Adobe home that I was sleeping better.

I was starting to have more mental clarity. Yeah, my energy levels continued to increase. And I also started just to have more creative energy because of all this. Oh, wait a minute. If I'm in an environment where I'm breathing better air, I'm getting better rest, I could think more clearly, this leads to more energy. I was like, wait a minute. This this is like a real tangible benefit to my life. I have more capacity to create and to design and add value into the world and uh to enjoy life.

Dr Pompa

You just felt different, right? Completely different. Yeah, it's funny. I just watched an Instagram video. Mel Gibson is uh he was in Italy and he just said, Man, I just feel different. You know, it's like the home feels different because they're yeah, you half the time you're staying in a thousand-year-old home that was built way different than today. And he's eating food grown in real soil, right?

It's like, you know, uh he's like, I'm eating pasta, I'm eating more bread than ever, and I'm losing weight. What's going on, right? Yeah, what you just said is what's going on, you know.

SPEAKER_01

It's a completely different connection to the land and got to go to some amazing places when I was in Peru, too, like this Sacred Mountain I was in Gate and go to these hikes and King Secocha, these three high mountain lakes where you get there and people are living the same way they've been living for the past 500,000 years. Heard an alpaca living in stone. I mean, and you feel like you're living in a national geographic magazine, and it's like, oh, this is what clean air tastes like.

This is wow, this is amazing. This is what it feels like to like really be in nature. Like, this is a natural environment. This is incredible.

Dr Pompa

And that was a game changer for me because by the way, what what are adobe huts actually made from? I mean, clay, dirt, straw.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a combination of uh soil, clay, and sand, straw, water. When I was there, I actually took a uh bioconstruction course.

It was a two-weekend workshop with a local architect and engineer and learned how to make the adobe blocks, learn how to like make a scale model out of mud and sticks, like learn the basic structural design principles for because when they build a roof down there, they have a lot of uh eucalyptus trees that they use for lumber and they, you know, essentially take all the little branches off, but like that's what they frame the roof with.

And then they take this cactus and they create like this paste with it, and that's what they put on the stone and on the wood to preserve it. So you talk about natural, non-toxic materials, regenerative materials. It's like, how did you make that? It's like, oh, well, we go to this cactus and then we make it into a paste, and that's how we protect the stone on the wall. It's like, oh, that's really cool. Where do you get this color for the wall?

Like, oh, well, that's just this one part of the mountain. We go over there, and it's this really beautiful orange color, and that's what we use to you know make the finish on the wall. Oh, wow. Which was just incredible. No different.

Dr Pompa

No VOCs in that paint.

SPEAKER_01

No, yeah. Yeah, I mean completely natural and beautiful, like really beautiful earth tones, too. Just like visually peaceful and calming and uh just so restorative.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. So you were, you were, you know, I mean, as a designer, soon-to-be architect, but I mean, that was your background, uh, you know, anyway. I mean, you were just like, I mean, you were salivating. I mean, you know, my gosh. And you also had an awareness of how unhealthy your old environment was because moving there made you feel that much different. So your brain started spinning on how can we bring some of these practices into what we're sealing. So that's exactly it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I was like, why don't why didn't I feel like this in the homes that I grew up in or the home that I built in Columbus? Like, why didn't I feel this way? And you know, the detox was part of it too, because at that point I learned these ways to activate my body's natural healing and like just had like a different way of life, but also like it was completely different.

So that set me on a mission to say, okay, how would I take the experience that I'm having here and translate that into the conventions and the materials and the methods of my culture where I came from. And also, I think an important thing too that I noticed in Peru, because there are so many amazing ancient temples and structures, and I got to go to Machu Picchu several times. One of the times I went to Machu Picchu, it was right after a strike.

Some friends came down to visit, and so I went back to Machu Picchu. And because you'll you'll appreciate this. So the the local Peruvian community was striking, and that one place I told you about King Sacocha. Used three high mountain lakes, super pristine, incredible water, really beautiful. They have this incredible elaborate system of canals to bring it down into the valley to irrigate, irrigate the crops and everything. It's so cool.

And so you see everybody striking, and you're like, well, why are they striking? They're like, oh, Nestle is trying to buy our water. They're trying to buy these lakes from the Provian government, and the locals are striking because they're like, if you sell our water, we're not making your food anymore. We're not growing your food. Oh, wow. We're shutting down. We're not working. You sell these lakes and we're done. You know, you get nothing.

Yeah. So they're like so solid on like protecting that kind of thing.

Dr Pompa

That's awesome, man.

SPEAKER_01

It was so inspiring.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. So they won.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they won.

Dr Pompa

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then, and then just all throughout the valley, I mean, there's these incredible uh temples and sun temples and moon temples and just these uh terraces and all this remnants from the Inca cultures and pre-Inca cultures. And the other thing that I started noticing was that, like, and I had been studying sacred geometry, was like this precision to the way they built

Sacred Geometry As Practical Design

within the land and they aligned with the sun and the way they aligned with the moon, or they the way they channeled and like brought water through a space that was so intentional. And for me, what I noticed is like they were connected with nature, they were connected with the sun. They had the sun because they had to.

Dr Pompa

And we fight it, we fight it. Sealing homes, and then we'll talk about that, all these mistakes because we're fighting nature. They had to work within it and work with it. And the outcome, well, you know, it was a healthy environment.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, and you think about think about this. This is something that really opened up my mind. Okay, oh, there maybe there's some esoteric reason for the way they align this with the summer solstice and where the sun is setting.

But also they knew, oh, okay, when the sun sets there, it's gonna start going back down, which means it's gonna start getting colder, which means we need to start planning for that because the the environment's gonna change and we don't have just a calendar to check the box or a phone to tell us what day of the week it is. They had to pay attention and observe nature. So, sacred geometry in ancient temples, there's a lot of great mystery and uh really interesting concepts around that.

And also, it's just so practical.

Dr Pompa

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Connection with nature. And that's one of the things I understood about sacred geometry or what I call ancient temple mathematics, it connects us with natural rhythms and cycles. Rather than disconnecting us from nature, if you design with that intention for your home to be a temple, your wellness center to be a temple, your office to be a temple, it could actually connect you with nature, natural rhythms and cycles, which are so good for the body.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. And again, I mean, it's you can create a lot of this. Um, let's let's talk about that. So let's bring that conversation into um our modern day environment.

How Modern Construction Traps Moisture

Let's let's start with the problems of what we've done. Let's start back, you know, when construction started going, you know, kind of take us through that evolution of what construction has gone through to lead us to where we are today with all these sick buildings and people unknowing that they don't feel well because of the their home that they're in. Let's start here. What is that? Is it the 50s, 60s? What is it? Yeah. So 1900.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the research that I've done. And so just focusing on one thing in particular is to make it easy because you know, all the building systems come into play. When we think about indoor air quality, which, you know, mold is a part of that, VOCs are a part of that, all kinds of different pollutants, chemicals in the home.

So when you look at like the history of home construction, traditionally masonry buildings, wood frame buildings, back early 1900s, those buildings didn't even have insulation. They were probably heated from uh a fireplace or maybe a radiant heat system, which meant they were really drafty. But even though they were really drafty, that worked in their favor back then because when you heated it up and it got hot, they were able to dry out.

So if the buildings got wet and you know, moisture, especially summertime, like moist times of the year, hot, humid times of the year, and when it got cooler and drier, the building could dry out. Well, I think it was like 1902, early 1900s, they invent air conditioning. And by the 1930s, 1990s, 1902 air conditioning? I think carrier. It was, I think it was 1902 in the research that I did. Yeah.

Dr Pompa

I I wouldn't have guessed that. And it was actually You know why? Because I go back, I remember um, well, I you know, different, we were poor, but I mean I remember when someone on our street, the Aurorax, got air conditioning. And I remember, I when was this? This was probably the 70s, right? I remember like walking in their house, it was like, wow, like you'd go in the summer day, but their house always felt freezing to me, right? Sure, yeah, because we adapted to the thing, you know?

Yeah, but yeah. So I thought that's when air conditioning was invented, right? It was when the aurorics got it, of course. You know, I'm I'm sure I thought it was maybe a little before that, but you know, at least started getting popular. The aurorics got air conditioning. Wow. No one else on our street had air conditioning.

You know what it did though, let me make one point is that um when I saw like where it came to the point where everyone ended up with air conditioner, you didn't see people on their porches anymore. Like you would eat dinner, then in the evening your house was really hot, right? Because it heated up all day. In the daytime, and from cooking, it was, you know, it was cool, right? You know, but at night it got really hot from the cooking and it heated all day.

So everyone moved to their porches and took walks. Everyone, it was a very communal thing, right? After air conditioning, no one came out, right? So, anyways, so I think air conditioning uh was the start of mold illness and lack of community. Anyways, go ahead. You know, so somewhere in this early 1900s, we had the beginning of air conditioning, which blows me away. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and it started for factories. From from the story that I read, it was for uh paper factories because that hot human environment they were trying to figure out a way to condition the air for manufacturing.

Dr Pompa

It wasn't in homes necessarily. It was not in homes right. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

I think in from the reason, yeah, like 30s, 50s, it started going in homes. Yeah. But then you get to the 70s, energy crisis, heating and cooling buildings takes a whole lot of energy. Yeah. People say, oh, shoot, these uninsulated walls, it doesn't work so great. We've got to insulate them to make our buildings more efficient.

Dr Pompa

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And so that's the first wave of adding this other component to the buildings, which we're talking 50 years. Yeah. So this is like a really new technology. Yeah, right.

Dr Pompa

Insulation. Insulation. Yeah. Which by the way is loaded with formaldehyde and other chemicals. We call it VOCs, volatile organic chemicals. Yeah. Uh, and we're putting that in our walls. Great.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And so then, you know, we're like, okay, you have to insulate your walls, you got to insulate your roofs. And now we realize insulation alone is not enough because the buildings are still really drafty, and that's posing a problem too. So now we got to make them airtight and make them more efficient.

Dr Pompa

Tyvek, we wrap them, and there's other companies, right? But that plastic wrap you see on new buildings, right? Okay, so now we plastic wrap them to minimize the drafts.

SPEAKER_01

And then it just keeps getting more and more airtight. But think about this. So, okay, now you have this insulated building and it's airtight. It's hot and humid air in the summer. Inside it's now really cool and dry. They, the building science community, they did these experiments and found if there's like an inch squared hole in that Tyvek, and think of the probability that that's gonna be there on the entire building envelope.

Dr Pompa

One inch hole.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that could let in like how does it not happen? How does it not happen? That could let in like 30 pints of water in the form of humidity in one season. My gosh. Into your walls. But if they're airtight, where's that humidity gonna go? Before, you know, when before you had that, the walls could naturally dry out, but now it's kind of gonna get stuck in there. Now you got the water and you got the uh wood on the or the paper on the back of drywall.

Dr Pompa

Okay, and and that's insane. The fact that we're still using drywall with mold food. I mean, it's it's like putting meat on, you know, your dog's thing and not expecting them to eat it. I I mean, mold eats cellulose. That is what favorists. So we're putting it on the back of drywall to this day. That's why when you rip moldy walls out, where's the mold in the back of the insulation and the back of the drywall every dime? Right. And then it gets, of course, then it spreads into the two by fours.

It's you know, a little denser mold food.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right.

Dr Pompa

Ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01

So it's just kind of one thing after another. And you know, it's building is complex and there's a lot of people, and people need houses. So, like, I don't think there's anyone to blame, but it's just a series of events and all of a sudden.

Dr Pompa

That it's taking a blade that led us here, right? That's when people go. I was shocked, right? Because at one point I was extremely mold sensitive. And I'm thinking, oh, you know, we were going to Europe, and I'm thinking, I don't know how I'm gonna do it. These buildings are a thousand years old, etc. I'm in these old churches in these old buildings, and I'm like, I feel fine. It's like, how's this possible? And then you realize there's no drywall.

Yeah. You know, these buildings are, you know, built to breathe, if you will, from the inside and out. Yeah. And uh that's really the opposite of what's happened. So here we are, you know, and I I want to point out a lot of homes that people don't feel well in, there's mold in so many of those areas that you just said, attic space in between walls. There's mold building up. They don't know it.

And by the way, when you test the indoor air, that mold that's behind the insulation because that tie back hole, it's you're not picking that up on a test. But yet when the air, when the house becomes positive pressure, meaning the wind blows against it, that air moves in. That's how the moisture got there in the first place, right? It moves in, and those biotoxins produced from the mold end up in your airspace. And you go, why do I don't feel well?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

That's that's the story in a nutshell. Now, there's HVAC

Tyvek Gaps Condensation And Mold Food

because now we're putting you know, heating and air conditioning units in in attic spaces, you know, all these places, and then they don't insulate it well, and now you have condensation there. So let's talk about some of these other pitfalls in buildings that we're doing where people might have mold. You talked about that one-inch gap in your Tyvek. Around windows is another big issue.

SPEAKER_01

If windows aren't flashed properly, yeah, that's another big area. And another thing too. So uh talk about a project and high performance building science. So a really high-performing building way to do is you do an insulated crawl space, but also traditionally people would only insulate the walls and sometimes not even the roof, and then out of the roof.

But so if you have a vented crawl space, same thing, you have that humid air going through the crawl space, and then you have the cool, dry air on top. Condensates good floor on the bottom of the joist and all that kind of stuff.

Dr Pompa

You know, condensation focuses when cold air meets warm air. Think about a glass in the summer. You'd have this ice cold glass of water and you walk outside and all of a sudden it's sweating. Okay, well, what happened is the dew point hit, and the difference of temperature basically created that moisture on the outside of the glass. That's what happens in your walls, that's what happens in the HVAC systems, that's what happens in the coil of your HVAC system.

It gets really cold to make your air conditioning, it shuts off, and now the glass effect, if you will. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, I notice you have my second favorite water in Mountain Valley. I I love that water. However, this water you should be drinking it. There's 40, there's 40 parts uh per million of oxygen in this water. 40 parts per million. I mean, it literally oxygenates your tissues. So anyway, I love this water.

SPEAKER_01

I was looking at them recently.

Dr Pompa

That's pretty cool. Yeah, very similar pH than that water, it ranges between eight and uh eight eight point five. So they that's exactly what's in spring water, but the oxygen is and it's more pure than that water, but I still love that water too. And is this made from filtered water or where's like the source of water they they they make it from RO, but then they run it, they re make it alive, they restructure it, they remineralize it just like a stream does. And um cool.

And then they run it, they they ozonate it, they put it through UV as well, and then um they hyperoxygenate it. It's amazing. Yeah, great. Tastes good. Yeah, it does taste really similar to it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's really good water. That's pretty cool. Anyway, okay, so, anyways, let's let's talk about some of these other areas of problems that we were building.

SPEAKER_01

Well, overall, it's you the thing that I came to understand was that it was the whole system, right? And the whole system developed over this like one thing after another, but without really thinking of vapor and water. And so when I was the other thing that really stood out to me about this uh home in Peru was that we were in the mountains, we were in the tropics, it was an adobe home, so we had like this temperature range where that home worked really well. Way more humidity.

You don't need a heating and cooling system, right? And you also don't need a whole lot of energy to condition it. And that led something to my mind. I was like, huh, what would it look like to design a self-sustaining home that performed in the climate that I grew up in? And then so I started researching and you find out about passive

Passive House Basics That Actually Work

house. Have you ever heard of passive house?

Dr Pompa

No.

SPEAKER_01

So passive house, uh FIS, it started in the 80s. So while generally people are kind of, you know, full steam ahead and let's wrap the house, insulate, um, build these homes as quick as we can. In Germany, Passive House, they started looking at building science and really trying to understand, okay, what's going on here? And like, what is this system? And how would we design a high performance home?

And from what I understand, a lot of this came from sustainability because also it was taking so much energy to heat and cool homes. I think it's like 30% of energy production is to heat and cool buildings. So people are like, okay, so how would we make a more high high performance, high efficient home? And so they developed this whole system that's called Passive House. And there's a group here in the United States called FIAS, but essentially it's building science.

And building science is uh a lot of it has to do with energy efficiency, but what they developed was something that also creates a really healthy home. And so you could have the airtight home, but you could have it with uh vapor permeable membranes, so that airtight, the air is not going to get in, but the humidity and the moisture can get out. So you get this airtight, super insulated, kind of like Gore-Tex? Gore-Tex.

Dr Pompa

It's what they use in waterproof shoes that a lot of feet could breathe. Otherwise, your feet would be soaked. Gore-Tex is waterproof this way, but allows the vapor your come out that way your feet aren't soaked. Otherwise, yeah. So Gore-Tex. But yeah, it's a membrane. Membrane that breathes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And the uh there's a company called ProClima that makes some, it's called Intello or Intelo X for the interior membrane. And then there's one for the outside and called uh Soli Tex Mento. And so they're airtight membranes, but they're vapor permeable, which means if any humidity gets in the wall, it's able to dry out. And then they started thinking of this concept of superinsulation.

So, in addition to having the stud cavity insulation, you have continuous insulation on the exterior of the wall, which means it reduces the thermal bridging. So that cool conditioned air, that surface that would condense, you're not going to get that condensation from the hot humid air because you've essentially got a blanket protecting the exterior of your wall framing. And so now all of a sudden you have this airtight, super insulated, continuous ventilation, which is also important.

So you don't want to make it airtight without ventilation. Because if you're not even bringing in fresh air, let alone the mold or mysotox. How are you getting fresh air in the wall, though? Space. Oh, no, the the building itself is so on the inside of the wall and the outside, it's airtight. Yeah. Right. So you put these membranes on the ERV system.

Dr Pompa

ERV bringing, yeah, I have in my house. I will never not have an ERV because you want constant fresh air coming in, stale air coming out, and they balance the pressure of the house. So you're not getting negative and positive. I, you know, I always positively pressurized uh my house slightly. But the new system, Braun, it keeps a perfect balance and it adjusts through the, you know, so it's it's AI, you know, it's it's an AI system.

So, anyways, it it likes it keeping it perfect balanced, um, which I guess is just as good as slightly positive, but I want to keep that pressure out. Yeah. So moisture doesn't come in.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But all these things add up to a whole system. Yeah, a whole system. It's building science, yeah. And so everything works together and then it's all electric. So you don't have any fuel combustion, there's no natural gas, it's all electric appliances, all electric heating and cooling, all electric hot water. And it becomes this incredible building system, one that has sustainability benefits because with a simple solar array.

Dr Pompa

Well, when we look at this Tyvek on the plastic wrap, that's part, it's a different wrap. It's a different wrap. Yeah. And then there's something else on the inside, not drywall. They're not using drywall.

SPEAKER_01

You you could still use drywall, but on the inside of the studs is another membrane, which is again air trade but vapor permeable.

Dr Pompa

And then what normally between the studs and out here where they wrap, because it's it's typically studs, plywood, uh Tyvek, okay, the plastic wrap. Okay, on and then in between there is your insulation. So what now what is the insulation?

SPEAKER_01

So you have insulation in the stud wall, but now you have this additional insulation outside of the stud wall, so it's continuous insulation. So it's essentially like think of it as like having like a blanket that wraps your whole walls and the roof.

Dr Pompa

So below the membrane. Above the membrane. Above okay, but with that outer wrap though, what's you're saying that it's continuous? Well, anyway, I I'm I'm a little confused on where that that's.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so like your stud wall is here on the inside, you have one membrane, on the outside you have another membrane. All right, and then on above that membrane you have the continuous insulation. Okay, and then your batten's in your siding. Okay. Your siding is ventilated. All right, okay, got it. So now, because you have that continuous insulation, the hot humid air in the summer, it's not going to condense on the inside of that wall surface. Got it. Okay.

Dr Pompa

All right.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

Dr Pompa

And then typically now, I'm a fan of wool insulation. Oh, yeah, I love wool insulation. Yeah. It's like, you know, I I mean, it doesn't like mold, it doesn't get moldy. It actually, when it gets wet, it actually still works. Yeah. And then with this system, it actually would dry without mold.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

Okay. So um, all right. So the walls are different. What what other changes? The ERV systems, energy recovery ventilators, which bring in fresh air, which I do anyway, regardless of that.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

Dr Pompa

Because again, your system is still sealed, but now we're bringing in fresh air and it's able to dry.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so you add the ERV system as well. Uh, and that assembly too goes all the way over the roof. That's for the roof. Makes sense, yeah. And you could do a basement or you could do it over a crawl space, but if you do a crawl space, you do an insulated conditioned crawl space that has uh a membrane in the crawl space too to protect that whole thing. So the stem walls and the grade are fully insulated.

Dr Pompa

How much more expensive is this than just throwing in the the what everyone else does? About building this way? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know, building is expensive these days, but I would say 40, 40% in that range, something like that. It depends on the size of the house. If you do like a big square rectangular house, a bigger volume, you get some qualit economies of scale.

Dr Pompa

So I mean, but it's 40% for the wall, like how you do the walls, right? The materials are gonna be more 40% more money than just buying regular Tyvek, regular this, regular that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, to do a passive house versus doing a building code like code minimum house. And when you think about code minimum, that's essentially like the the bare minimum legal house that you could build.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, yeah, which is problematic. Yeah, bare minimum legal house. That's what they're building. Um, okay, and then what about HVAC systems? Because again, HVAC systems can be problematic in themselves. Yeah, they can be done right, but most often they're done wrong. Insulation, right? There's condensation issues. Do they do anything different there?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, so the cool thing about passive, uh, if you do a certified project too with FIAS, there's a really cool process. So you could have the best design in the world, but if it's not implemented correctly, what's the point? Right. And so the cool thing about FIAS, uh, if you do a certified passive house project is that you have me as a designer, you have a certified passive builder, certified passive house consultant. The whole thing is energy model, it's really scientific and precise.

And then you get a third-party raider or inspector that comes out and at the end of your building, they're doing a really advanced blower door test or doing thermal imaging camera, going around looking at your thermal bridging to make sure the insulation is working as designed. And then they're

Inspection Rigor ERVs And Real Costs

checking things about okay, your for your ERV, was it insulated correctly? Did you have a vapor uh membrane on the insulation? All these fine details. There's like over 300 items on the checklist. So when you build this way, the a project I recently completed in Columbus, Ohio, it was a 12-hour inspection to get through everything and like find all the little cracks, like, oh, where this was taped in the crawl space, that that adhesive actually wasn't the right one. It wasn't working well.

We have to retape all of this to make sure the airtightness that's we design is actually going to perform the way that it was designed. So, you know, typical final building inspection for a house might be, you know, 30 minutes, something like that.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, you get a 12 hour inspection. Yeah, they come out and just look at the basic stuff, right? I mean, you know, it's a joke. Um, this is an inspection that every house needs. But the problem with this inspection is every house would fail. Uh you know, I mean, meaning that they'd end up having to do this, this, this. So builders don't want you coming in. Um Yeah. I mean they don't, you know, because they're gonna have to do things over and over and over because everything's done incorrectly.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Um so it's a rigorous process.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. I mean, everybody needs a guy like this, you know, to inspect their home. But um, man, I mean, I can't wait to build my next home safely. I mean, there is no doubt in my mind I'm hiring you, you know, as my designer uh architect. Um, because I there's nothing more important to me than a safe home because I see why people get sick. I've spent years helping people get their lives back. And again, this is one of the big problems that people miss.

It's how their home is built and why it's making them sick, unknowing to them. See it all the time. And I tell you, the leaks happen and they they cut out the area that shows and they go, Oh, yeah, we fixed it, not knowing that it ran across pipes that way, this way, that way, insulation's wet. Now it's mold because the building doesn't breathe. Right. And that and it they don't know. They have no idea. They don't smell it, they don't see it.

SPEAKER_01

Right. So the building science is key. And you know, it's big in the sustainability community. But what I realize in the process of designing these homes is that it's huge for your health. Because if you have clean indoor air and you have mental clarity, you're gonna have more energy, more capacity to whatever your mission is, your work, whatever you want to do. I mean, these have such real benefits. It changes your life. It changes it's not about checking the box for the environment.

It's it's is the environment you're living in sustainable for you to live in.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, that's the thing, is it was said by um I think I I don't remember what uh agency, but they said the indoor air is seven times more toxic than the outdoor air on the worst day in LA. It's like, I mean, the indoor, the average indoor air, right? Because of all the chemicals. It's like, you know, you need to go out in the smoggy city to get better air. You know, 100%. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and that's so the really cool thing. So building science is one thing. I've got three three principles with Geo Alchemy Studio. So there's the building science, but then once you create this airtight, high-performing envelope, you don't want to put conventional building materials in there. So my other principles were generative non-toxic materials. Yep. And you start looking at some of the stuff that's available out there today, and it's really freaking cool.

Dr Pompa

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like natural lime plasters. So you could do natural lime plaster on your wall. It's a mineral-based product. There's no petroleum in it. The color is mineral pigment, natural mineral pigment. It's caustic, so it's not going to grow mold,

Non Toxic Materials That Regenerate

mildew, funguses, none of those things are going to grow on it. And it actually absorbs CO2, like the plants.

Dr Pompa

And it absorbs humidity. And it'll regulate the humidity. It can regulate humidity like 10 to 17%. Yeah, actual, like that type of uh natural uh you know absorbent clay material. I mean, it's amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And then for like wood, uh, there's some really cool products out there. Like you could do a real natural hardwood, not the engineered hardwoods that have the glues and stuff in them, uh, but a real natural hardwood, like a hickory, for example, and finish it with a linseed oil and wax, which has like two ingredients linseed oil and beeswax.

Yeah. Now the other cool thing about this is the regenerative component, because so much of what we build is going to end up in the landfill in the trash. But if you do a natural wood floor and finish it with a natural finish like linseed oil and wax, and you could do this for your cabinetry too. I mean, so much of a building is wood.

They make a thermally modified wood, which uses high temperature and heat to change the molecular structure of wood for exterior cladding, so you don't have to do the chemical uh pressure treating to make it safe. You could do these and then finish them with natural linseed oil paints, naturally, natural linseed oil and wax. These products you could chip up and put in your garden bed at the end of the life cycle. You don't have to throw it into a landfill.

Yeah, you could actually like compost them and they're just gonna go back to the earth.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. Which is huge. Yeah, that that is huge, right? You know, so like these are the things that matter, yeah, right? It's like these are the things that matter. All the the whole green movement, the whole thing, it's such crap. It's such political disaster. It's uh so BS. It's like, you know, we need to take care of our environment for the health of our children, right? It's like that's the problem, you know, is what we're doing to humanity.

SPEAKER_01

Sustainability shouldn't be anything about checking a box for an incentive. It's like, is the environment you're living in can your health sustain them? Absolutely. Can you sustain yourself in this environment? Yeah. And the answer for most homes is no. Like when I did an open house for a recent project, the guy who works for a local home builder came by. He's like, Why does it smell like chemicals in here? Well, because it's natural materials. Oh, it smells good.

It smells the air feels good in here, it smells good. So it has nothing to do with just checking a box. That's not gonna get us anywhere, in my opinion. But if it's gonna make you healthier, now you can make better choices. You could think clearly, you could add value, you could problem solve, we could like actually create more value together.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. How how do people find you if they want to consult you?

SPEAKER_01

Uh so my design practice is called Geoalchemy Studio. So if you look up Say it one more time. Geoalchemy Studio.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, geoalchemy studio.

SPEAKER_01

And the unique part of me too is like I take all of this, the high performance building science, the regenerative non-toxic materials, but then also what I call the ancient temple mathematics. So, what I've realized too, the way we orient our structure on the site relative to the sun and the wind. So I was gonna ask that.

The proportions of the rooms, golden ratios, these harmonic proportions that have calming effects to our nervous system, the way you detail the corners and uh the way you add symbols, geometric glyphs, symbols that remind you of coherence and power and beauty. Like we all have symbols in our lives that remind us of our strength or give us purpose or like have meaning to us, and like the way you incorporate all that, what some people will call sacred geometry into a design.

So that's why I call it geoalchemy studio, geo, like the earth, geometry, measure of the earth, earth alchemy. And what is alchemy for me? It's it's that it's taking this negative situation and turning it into something positive, pain to purpose.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, absolutely. You know, you uh coined the uh the term codex home. Yeah. Tell me what is that what you're describing with a passive home?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so for me, codex home is the combination of the principles, right? So the high performance building science, the passive home, but with regenerative non-toxic materials and the ancient temple mathematics.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, so we kind of went right in that order, didn't we? Yeah. So what is the best if you had to point your home in a direction, you had a choice, what is the best direction, north, southeast, west?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, personally, the big thing you want to think about is the windows. And I like aligning either with magnetic north or uh polar north, and then being really intentional about the way you place the windows to maximize your relationship to the sun.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. So, like, you know, my house is front door points north, but the back where all the windows are, it's directly south because we bring all that light in. Right. So you're saying that's what matters more. Like, where do you want your windows? Where do you, you know, so windows on the south side bringing in bringing in the sun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but also, I mean, I've done a lot of research too on like ancestral wisdom about the wisdom of the directions, and like each direction has a different type of energy about it. So whether you're calling in like the direction of the north is uh like the hummingbird and royal hummingbird, great endurance, uh, wisdom. And so there is a level of intention and connecting with like this amazing heritage of ancestral knowledge that we have.

So part of what I do with my clients is this consultation of like what what energy do you want to call in? Like, what resonance do you want for your home? Like, how do you want to feel in there? And that plays into the direction, right? There's no one size fits all best direction, but there's a best direction for you. And that'll be your codex home. And your codex home too is like this outward expression of the uniqueness of you. There's a recipe, there's principles, there's a formula, but no

Orientation Proportions And Home Resonance

two ones will ever be the same because certain colors um bring certain feelings. Yeah, certain colors, certain materials like wood, maple is known to have an energetic quality of balancing masculine and feminine energies. Gold leaf, I like really working with 24 karat gold leaf, and gold will never rust or tarnish, so it reminds us to speak our truth, which is I think something that you do really beautiful and it's an inspiration to so many of us.

Just speaking your truth, speaking your authenticity, like and and the gold reminds us to do that.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, so you bring all these components, right? So again, you know, back to uh the basics as far as how a house breathes, right? Like an Adobe, uh, all the materials that are going into this house, and then all of these aspects that create the mood, if you will, that create the feeling with which everyone can acknowledge that. When you walk into certain spaces, you get a certain feeling. That was intentional by a really good architect or designer, right?

That was very intentional that you would get that that feeling when you walk in. When you walk into spas, there's certain smells, there's certain feelings, there's certain structures, there's certain colors, you know, and it creates relaxation, right? Oh, yeah. So when people say, oh, this has a spa effect, okay, that was intentional, right? Um, you know, but anyway, so you consider all three of those things. Now, today with EMF, it's it that can disrupt energy with all your best efforts, right?

So my house has a certain lighting. Um, we use like very amber lights. Yep. Um, my wife doesn't appreciate red lights, otherwise, my bedroom would have all red lights in the evening, but we we use a very nice amber. Nice daylight lights are full spectrum um lighting. None of our lights pulsate because certain bulbs actually pulsate. So, anyways, I put a lot of time and effort into the correct lighting in my house.

Um, I don't, I'm not, I don't have Wi-Fi, uh, so we're wired in Ethernets, old fashioned, I know. Um, but it's because that disrupts massive energy. I mean, that creates um, I mean, not just a feeling of bad mood, um, but it's harmful to ourselves. Yeah. And so do you consider those things?

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Yeah. All of those things. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing that the reason I created Geo Alchemy Studios, I saw a lot of people, there's a lot of great information on there. I think Brian Hoyer, you interviewed him, saw that podcast. He's got great resources. Yeah, I I interviewed look for that podcast right here.

Dr Pompa

And we talked about light, we talked about EMF.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And there's a lot of great resources on that. But one of the missing links was the very structure of the way that we build the walls and then the materials that we build with them. And then the actual architecture, the actual geometry. But yeah, once you have those three main pillars, all that other stuff completely. The electricity, the electrical conditioning, hardwareing, the water systems, water filtration systems. I mean, all of those are the things that we're gonna do.

Dr Pompa

I have it in I have the I have their unit in my house, actually. Oh, awesome. Yeah, that's cool. Uh-huh. And then, of course, my ERV air systems. Look, I you know, I think everyone, if you're building a house, you need a consultant. Do you ever come in and consult people in an existing home to make it better? Have you done that?

SPEAKER_01

I haven't done a whole lot of that yet, but definitely can. Yeah. Yeah, definitely can offer people. I mean, the air quality is a big one that you can do, but I've been developing a uh like a questionnaire to kind of get to know the problems that people are having. So I could consult and offer some solutions for people.

Dr Pompa

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. I mean, it's because once you understand even this air component that we're discussing, you know, it changes the way you look at homes, obviously, but it changes even how you think about your own home.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

And what you can do to make it make it safe. A lot of people, you know, depending on your environment, the time of year, even just cross-ventilating your home. It's like can do wonders for your indoor air quality instead of keeping

EMF Lighting And Fixing Existing Homes

it tight with, you know, I you know, I I mean, I live in a good space in uh the summer um Park City, Utah. It's it's it's very dry, but it also has a very moderate climate, typically in the 80s. You know, and you get a lot of cross-ventilation, but some people don't have that opportunity. It's too hot and humid. So therefore, these breathable walls and you know, ERVs that bring in fresh air, they treat the air so you're not just bringing in humid air in.

So I I guess that it becomes even more important in environments like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, absolutely. The um but one of the things that uh people can do because their homes are in fact really humid, you know, you're talking about plastering the walls, and it creates a whole different feeling than that I don't want to say, you know, what do you call this? Just a drywall. Paint and drywall. Paint and drywall, yeah. But when you put plaster on a wall, you're decreasing VOCs, you're decreasing humidity, and it has a totally different feel.

So what I'm thinking is like things that you could go into an existing home and make suggestions on their water systems, their air systems, their um, their environment from lighting to the electrical system, electrical systems feeling.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, so yeah, and you could bring in different geometry elements too, things that remind you to come back to your center. I'm a big fan of like door and window uh what do I call them?

Like glyphs, like putting symbols on your doors and your windows that like reminds you to come back to your center because maybe the place that you're updating to, like maybe you're not gonna live there forever, but like you could bring in these symbols and this like resonance that like helps you remember and stay focused. Yeah, yeah.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, man. Uh great, great stuff. I mean, people they would live longer, healthier, happier lives if we really understood this topic of space, yeah, topic of VOC, chemicals, mold, how important our environment is, it changes our internal environment. And yet 100% people don't understand it. They're going back to their little toxic bubbles. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But there's another way. And so I'm on my mission, man. My mission is to help the world get healthier through the spaces we inhabit where the structures that we occupy heal rather than harm. Yep. Because what if it was actually the opposite? Rather if taxing us, what if you actually went home to heal and to rest and detox or recalibrate, and then you could go back out in the world, you're like, all right, I'm ready to go again. Yeah. Rather than slowly being drained, uh, you know, all the time.

Absolutely. We could turn this thing around.

Dr Pompa

Have you heard of okay, there's some new stuff, right? Uh they even make a cement now. Because the problem with cement in colder climates is it's like, you know, there's like it's cold. No R value. Yeah, exactly. No R value. Now they have a foamed cement. It's lighter and you don't need insulation. So now you don't need these gaps, so these air spaces where we have to put insulation. So foam cement, it's it's it's a new thing. You know, Google it. It's it's it's a real thing.

And uh, you know, it evidently works like magic.

SPEAKER_01

Talking about like the aircrete kind of stuff?

Dr Pompa

I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, yeah.

Dr Pompa

They can't like you know, water can penetrate cement, it can hold water, right? And if it's sealed in, it doesn't dry, right? And that becomes a problem. This actually doesn't allow water penetration, so there's no moisture issue.

SPEAKER_01

It's pretty cool.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, exactly. So imagine surrounding that with the membranes. Now you have, you know, if it's pretty interesting. Yeah, I mean, if it needs to breathe, it does, but you know, if you get water behind it, you know.

SPEAKER_01

But anyway, I've seen some they they make a modular foundation wall system too, that's more of like a stud wall, so it uses a lot less concrete and then it has insulation built into it, but they use a higher um strength concrete that's again like impervious to the water. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, so I I I think that we're we're at a tipping point. We're gonna look back at the way we're building homes right now and think, oh my gosh, you know, look at the sickness and disease that we caused. Unfortunately, so many people are living

Codex Tiny Homes And Practical Options

in toxic homes right now. If you said to them the one thing that you would change in your existing home, what would it be that they could do? I think the ventilation is the biggest thing off the bat. The ERV systems, yeah.

Increase your ventilation because you're bringing stale air out, fresh air in, and you can even create more balance pressure-wise, which keeps that moisture, like you said, if you have that little hole, you know, if it's if your house is negative pressure, that comes flowing in. But if you keep that balanced, it keeps that moisture out. Right.

SPEAKER_01

And the thing is, not everybody's gonna be ready to build a new home. Right.

Dr Pompa

And that's why I was saying, yeah, that most of these people listening aren't. So what can they do?

SPEAKER_01

But I've also got another project that I'm really excited about uh that can help people, and it's developing a Codex Tiny Home. And I've formed a strategic alliance with a really great company in Ohio called Great Lakes Tiny Home. Uh, they're an Amish zone company. They build a great reputation based on transparency, trust, integrity, Amish craftsmen, really high craftsmanship. And uh we're partnering and I'm designing a Codex Tiny Home line for them. So we're gonna have this line of tiny homes.

Uh anything from like 200 to 400 square feet. Yeah. Essentially think of it as like an RV kind of situation.

Dr Pompa

Listen, I get these sick people who are living in tents in Arizona. Yeah. I mean, you know, which is no way to live, right? And they're looking for these homes. But that could be a future. And they're nice homes. I mean, you'll make these nice.

SPEAKER_01

We're designing them right now, and they're gonna have the whole system high performance building science, regenerative, non-toxic materials continuously ventilated. We could make them EMF safe, we could add filtered water, we could do radiant heat. Yeah, they're all about connecting with nature too. So, like stargazer packets. You could build these on trucks and bring them in. That's exactly what we're doing. They're on trailers and you could drive them. Yeah, yeah.

And so uh I've partnered with Great Lakes Tiny Home and we're rolling them out this year. Um designing the line right now.

Dr Pompa

So if you're where do they look well, they you'll find it on your site, right? So give give me a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

You could look up Great Lakes Tiny Home and also GeoAlchemy Studio.

Dr Pompa

So GeoAlchemy Studio, you'll have information about that. I mean, developing safe, affordable. I mean, where would these things start price-wise?

SPEAKER_01

We're looking at a range of like 120,000 to 200,000. Yeah, this is to give people options. So if you needed to, or say you have a kid, you got a kid that's you know really sensitive, but you don't want to move out of your home, you could have one of these on your property and a safe place for the kid to sleep or your loved one. You could also take them out to nature anywhere you can take an opportunity.

Dr Pompa

I want to buy a piece of property somewhere and put one of these just there. Cause I what do you need more? Right? You have kitchen, you have your living space, you have your eating space, you have your sleeping space, you have your, you know, yeah, I mean, that's all you need.

SPEAKER_01

And coming back to the sacred geometry elements, I mean, we could line this thing up so you're like, on my birthday, I want to be wake up and right out of my bedroom window see the sunrise.

Dr Pompa

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then for your partner, you could do the same thing because it's on wheels and you can move it.

Dr Pompa

You can look you could actually see now my brain's geeking out on the whole thing. You could actually put it on something that actually moves uh the day moves, right? I mean, we got to do that. That's possible. Yeah, we could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you can put it on a timer to, you know, like so it actually is does this whole thing, like it's moving with the earth, you know, the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01

Kill the power at night so you're not in any electromagnetic frequency. Absolutely. Uh we could put a skylight on it so you could sleep under the stars. Uh-huh. You can get that beautiful starlight, connect with the moon. I'm pretty excited about it.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, I'm excited about that too, because I'm always thinking about solutions that can fix the average person. Because I I know people are out there going, I can't afford that. I can't afford that. I can't, you can afford this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

You know, because this is like it's an apartment, is basically what it is. Healthy, breathable. And honestly, you could do it nicer. I mean, meaning like that's all high-end stuff. Everything because when it's all natural like that, it's all high-end. It looks beautiful. It has a space. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_01

They're going to be gorgeous. We're going to have plenty of customization options. So, like, say you want to do the darkroom experience. We could make it so you've got the darkroom bedroom. Uh, say you want a spa experience. We could build your sauna and cold plunge into it. Yeah. You name it. I mean, they'll be fully customizable.

unknown

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

I mean, I if if if you wanted more space, you could put two together and customize a bit of door between them. I, you know what I'm saying. I mean, you could do what you want. I you'll get to the point where people are putting four modules together if they wanted. Absolutely. Yeah. It's like that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01

You could you could take it anywhere and we could put solar on it. You could have a water tank. So if you want to go on BLM land and really unplug and just have like a you know, five.

Dr Pompa

I have uh I have a friend of mine who was a client years ago. Uh, her husband's a cardiologist, she's a chiropractor, she got very chemically sick. They were living in uh Arizona for a while because she just couldn't tolerate anything. Um, now they're just about to move this month. They built a home out of cement, steel, and glass in Costa Rica. So they're about to move into it. But this would have been an option.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, it would have been a great option. It'd be fun. Yeah. Anyway. And if you want to make a little health retreat, it's a quick way to do it. Yeah. You can see like seven of them, eight of them together and have a nice little retreat center.

Dr Pompa

I'm thinking my brain's going because you can make a retreat, you just buy a bunch of these, put them in the woods, and you have retreats there for sick people. Because again, when people get they don't understand when they get away from EMF, when they get away from the chemicals and they get into an environment like you're describing, their life changes. Oh my gosh. And they go, What the heck? Right. It's like, you know, it's not about the next pill.

It's not about the next potion lotion, you know, biohack, you name it. This is the key to getting. People healthy. The environment that you live in. The environment that you live in.

SPEAKER_01

Environment that you spend 90% of your time.

Dr Pompa

Then I would detox them because it's like everything that's stored up, which we call persistent toxins throughout their life. We got to get rid of that. You get you remove the interference, God designed our bodies to heal. The problem is, is living in your very home and building, you have all these interferences that, you know, are around you, keeping your cells in a stressed environment. And you're wondering why you can't.

Oh, and you're eating regular food that's sprayed with glyphosate that opens up your gut,

Final Takeaways And Where To Find Jeremy

your blood-brain barrier. And we wonder why we lead the world in chronic disease. Oh, yeah. Wow. We just solved it. So we just solved it. We're buying these little homes and we're changing. We're gonna put them on my detox. Uh basically fasting vacation. You know, you're building Adobe's is what you're doing. You're building modern day adobes, right? I mean, think about you know, Adobe's were very small.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

Dr Pompa

Yeah. I I saw Adobe's when I went to Africa, and I, you know, it just it was just amazing seeing how these people live and how healthy they were. They didn't have words for cancer when we were out in the bush. It didn't exist. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, all right, man. Give them your website one more time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Uh you can find me at geoalchemy.studio. Yep. Got an Instagram out there. I'm uh sharing more and more GeoAlchemy Studio as well.

Dr Pompa

It's easy.

SPEAKER_01

So this year is the big year to share. I've been developing this past 20 years of my life and uh excited to get out there and well, you're gonna change lives.

Dr Pompa

Pain to purpose.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

Dr Pompa

Yeah, from sick to well to changing the world. Yep. Thanks, Jeremy. Thanks, Dr.

SPEAKER_01

Papa.

Dr Pompa

Thank you all. Share and like the show. People need this information always.

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