¶ Setting The Stakes: Truth And Healing
In the next five to seven years, there will be indistinguishability between what's real and what is fake.
The greatest healing ever in the history of humanity is coming.
And it starts with surrender, and it's coming through Jesus. Anxiety is a sin to repent of, not something to medicate out of.
The battle you're going through in your health, your family right now, it is spiritual, and the enemy is taking it, and we need to claim the ground again.
You should have complete control and surrender to the Lord, but you should have authority over these areas, but the devil's put up a camp.
We just have to understand that Christ did it for us on the cross, and we have to surrender to that. That's the freedom.
For the first time in history, more parents are worried their kids are going to commit suicide than getting a car wreck. Mental health is through the roof. I call it the anxious era.
Faith, family, freedom. You're going to hear about it all. Oh, that does that sound boring? What does that have to do with pain to purpose? Oh, you wait till you hear this story that happened a year ago. Transformed this gentleman's life, and it's going to transform the planet. Wait till you hear this story. But how these affect your health, oh man, I'll tell you what. This is going to be a show.
I'm going to tell you right now, you're going to want to share because this is going to touch you in the area where God is tapping. I'm telling you, there's a purpose here for you, even hearing my
¶ Introducing Scott Donnell And Legacy
voice right now. I'm here with Scott Donald and my lovely wife. And our dogs are on the floor too. Scott, you're you're just one of the most incredible entrepreneurs. You have reached 250 million families. You've mentored teenagers, my son, one of them. We are part of your legacy group. Used to be called Dinner Table. Yeah. Right. Now it's just legacy. Now it's just legacy because we are one of our things is we're leaving a legacy on this planet, right?
And um, I joined your group when I heard about that. Uh Tim Tebow, there's some amazing people in our group. I mean, I'm I'm telling you the whole group's amazing, right? Yep. Uh, these are people who are all changing the world. Um, but you have changed the world already. I can't wait for them to hear what's next. Okay. That was probably the longest introduction I ever gave. And um, you know, because there's so much here.
And I uh my my fear is people from the beginning are gonna be like, okay, what's here for me? I'm telling you, there's something here for them. There's something here for you because um what God's doing through you gives me goosebumps up and down from trafficking children, anti-trafficking children, yeah, saving children, saving children. No, he traffics children, no, he traffics children right to heaven. That's what he's doing. Bring them to heaven.
Um, no, but um the difference uh that you're making. I I almost don't know where to start, but I'm gonna start here. How did you, as an entrepreneur, how did you end up in all of these areas? Tell us your story. And I even want to tell your story, you know, your salvation story as well. And I don't know where that fits into it.
Started your childhood.
Yeah, I think it's it's a great story.
It's been a wild life. I prayed early on, Lord, give me a wild life.
Okay, see, I'm not praying that, Lord. I'm not we've had one now because I've had one. Yeah, well, I'm praying for shalom shalom.
Let me start with this quote. Okay, anyone listening, I just I want to frame to this conversation. This has been the most transformational thing in my life the last few years. Here's the quote: a mentor of mine said this. He said, Many are gifted, but few are anointed because of the cost of the oil. Now, if you think about that, are you gonna let God do everything he needs to do in you to accomplish everything he wants through you? That's a big question.
I think that over 90% of people, maybe 99% of people, are like, no way. I just want my get out of jail free card. I want some fire insurance here, I want to have a safe, comfortable, secure life. I want to look good to others, I want to have enough money to make it through. I just want to bide my time to retirement. And uh I think you're right. You gotta be careful about that thinking.
99% of the people I think would answer, why wouldn't I want that?
Because you're missing an unbelievable life. That's why. And you got it the helm. Yeah, for sure. You're you you're if you want to live a lukewarm w life, there are verses on that. And if you want to live like a it's good to have a quiet, godly life with contentment. Yes, that's beautiful. But don't for a second think that God can't use you in unbelievable ways. What if he has a massive plan and all you need to do is surrender yours? That's the question.
A year ago, I don't even want you to tell the story yet, but a year ago you were forced to do just that. Yeah. Give up businesses, income, everything you've worked most of your adult life for. Give it up, put it at the altar. Yeah. And you said yes, which most people would say no, but wait till you hear the end of that story. Yeah. And it's pretty tricky.
Well, and I can back up first if you want. Like it's been a wild ride.
I think we've got them exactly where I need you. I just so want, I just got goosebumps because I know there's something special for everyone watching this. I know it. I'm just so excited.
Yeah, if everyone is holding on to that one thing, and I think by the end of this interview, they need to let it go. That's it. So for me, I, you know, I come from an awesome family. You know, I'm I come from four generations of entrepreneurs that um did incredible. They're made hundreds of millions or billions of dollars, and they didn't pass it on. Praise God. They gave it to widows and orphans and people who needed it.
And that's your passion with legacy.
Yeah. Yeah. If they would have given it to me, they'd have ruined me quick. Now it doesn't mean you give nothing. What it means, the principle, and this is what I do as for my day job, is I coach families. We teach legacy. We've been studying the top families in the world for 10 years, and we want to give them the right strategies in the home to create generational success. So we teach connection, core values, capability, courage, those kinds of things. How do you actually transfer it?
So that's my life.
And by the way, I sorry to interrupt you. I I just watched probably five of your last Instagram videos. And um, amazing. Tell him your Instagram. No, because you see.
Just Scott Donald. Scott Donald. I'm Scott Donald.
Scott Donald. But I mean, it's like I I was like, gosh, he's so right. The things you do with your family just at the dinner table and the thing, it's like, I'm telling you, that stuff transforms your
¶ Heritage Over Inheritance: Family First
children, your family, your legacy. I mean, so, anyways, you can get more of that there.
Yeah, and we have so many uh unbelievable strategies that almost nobody does in their family. But when you study the top in the world, like you guys have seen, when you study the best in the world, you start to realize the strategies are all the same that almost nobody does. And so that's our goal is to bring train like the best. And that's what our mentor family program does.
But I would say one of the biggest things that I saw growing up that I've seen in some of the most incredible families is this idea of legacy where they say, um I'll just give you guys a question. You ready? And anybody listening in can think about this too. If you could pass on to your kids and grandkids one of these three things, what would it be? All of your money and stuff, all of your knowledge, or all of your experience and wisdom.
Absolutely. That's the one. Which one?
The third. Experience and wisdom.
See, everyone, when they get clear, that's it. Yet we focus most of our lives on the money and stuff, and maybe knowledge, because we outsource the parenting and try to get them in all the schools and church and sports and knowledge, knowledge, knowledge, yeah. So if you think number three is the top one, then the principle becomes this your kids need heritage more than they need inheritance.
Absolutely.
It's more about what you leave in your kids than to them. So many families are just working on the net worth at death. It's like we gotta make sure that they're safe. We gotta make sure they have enough, and the grandkids are not.
If you give them wisdom and you give them, you know, the heritage, it that's all taken care of. It's taken care of.
And it does and they'll have a fulfilled, joyful life. That's right. And a healthier life. That's right. And better, deeper relationships. They won't be entitled. Yes. They won't be spoiled, they won't be anxious. See, there's a there's a version of They'll work. They'll yeah, they'll work, they'll create value in their life.
Yes.
Instead of just waiting for you to die to get your stuff. And I see this all the time. It's everyone's focus. It's like you they look at their calendar, they look at their bank statement, they look at their energy where it's put, and it's all on that. Gotta have enough left over, not just for me, for as much as humanly possible. And and you think child sacrifice is not happening anymore? I think it's happening more than ever before.
How many people are sacrificing their children on the altar of career?
Absolutely.
Workaholism. Yeah. They just skipping dinners.
You know what my dad just told me today, not to interrupt, but thinking about just how Charlie Kirk's message, right, was always about building the family. Yeah. And I asked him today, someone um extended family had a baby. And I asked him, I said, Oh, is she married? And he said, No. Apparently, the accountant said it was better for them not to get married. And I I was just like, Yeah, I mean, gut punch. I said, Dad, yeah. I said, that's exactly what is happening in our society.
And for an accountant to say that, I mean, that just it it's heartbreaking.
Yeah, never never mistake tax advice for parenting advice. This is where a lot of people go wrong.
It's so disturbing. I mean, if you break, if Satan has his way and he breaks down the family, which he has successfully.
It's our greatest war. Done. Oh, I could go off on this all day. Yeah. It is our greatest war, I think, is the war on family. If that goes, everything else goes. So that health goes, everything goes. Everything. Everything. Family was the first form of government. Like it's it's like manage your family before you can do anything else. And before you can do anything in the village or the tribe or be an elder at the gate.
That's how I started this show, right? It knows that. And then it takes out the health, then it takes out every relationship. There goes peace, joy, contentment. There goes, there goes any purpose. There goes mission. All of it goes.
That's right. It's a big deal. And we have to fight it tooth and nail. I mean, just look real quick at the culture. We call these the four forces, all right, that are just attacking families like crazy. And the first force is dopamine distortion.
I talk, I just did a video on cocoa melon. I don't even know if you know what that is. Oh, I hope that's it. It's designed to, you know, every two to six seconds, frame change, frame change, colors. And it there's no gamma colors. They say it's educational. It's not educational, it's addiction. It's dopamine hits that are setting kids up for more dopamine hits later. Yep.
It rewires a children's brain to addiction. Absolutely. And it rewires their brain to isolation. Absolutely. Wow. So they become isolated from connection to others, and they think that connection comes to that screen, and a screen will never give you real connection. No. So that's the problem with dopamine. It's like hundreds of times more dopamine is being released in a kid's brain by like the age of 12 to 14 now than when we were kids. And here's the problem.
Like advertisers have more access than ever before. Right? They don't have your best interest in mind. No, of course not. Okay. If you don't, by the way, if you don't know what product, what someone's selling, you're the product. Absolutely. And so we have an entire generation now that they think that if there's ever a moment of boredom, something's wrong.
Absolutely.
Boredom is critical. That's where creativity comes. Matter of fact, I said it destroys creativity. It's right. It's a big deal. And parents think that their job is to pacify the children and entertain them all day.
It used to be play dates. That's right. It used to be play dates.
We have replaced going outside with going online.
Yep.
Yep.
And let me talk about dopamine for a second. I mean, you know this as a doctor. Dopamine, God created dopamine. It's not a bad thing. See, dopamine is released, it's it's a pleasure hormone that's a chemical that's released in the pursuit, it's supposed to be released in the pursuit of something worthy. Good workout, dopamine release. Deep connection. We're going to dinner after this. We're going to get dopamine in a healthy way.
Okay. Dopamine was created by God to give us something on the road to good purpose. Love that.
Yeah.
But if you remove the effort and you give the dopamine hit, scrolling. That's where addiction comes. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. All addiction is a pursuit of dopamine without effort.
And lostness. They're just humans are lost. This is the first generation that's growing up.
That's the first force that's just crushing us.
Our first generation growing up with a cell phone in their hand is happening right now. And we can see the disturbing result.
That's right. Number two, number two. Instant gratification. It's like a kissing cousin to dopamine.
This does the same thing. It does the same thing.
But let's think about it. For the last five to ten years, we have Amazon Prime. Bang, one click.
Yeah.
We have Uber and Lyft, which means half the amount of 15 and 16-year-olds want a car now than they did 10 years ago, 15 years ago.
Wow.
That used to be a milestone event. No, no.
Oh my gosh, yeah. And my 22-year-old just got his license.
His permit. 22. Because they already got that freedom.
He's like, why would I, why would I do that? He's like, it's easier for me just to take Uber around. We're like, what? Like when we were we were 15 and we were couldn't wait. It represents freedom. Don't you want a car?
Well, but let's go deeper because I think about this in terms of family and development. That is one of the top three milestones from young to old. Getting a car is the biggest responsibility in a teenager's life. Getting a driver's license, you got to sit with your friends' parents and convince them that you're trustworthy. Yeah.
It's true.
You got to convince your own parents that I'm going to have the responsibility to do this. Yeah. I'm paying for gas. I'm paying for insurance. I'm paying for most, probably half this car, all of it. I got to get a job. Yeah.
Yep.
See, that was a milestone of development. Yes. Now it's being robbed. Okay. So instant gratification is shifting culture and creating fragile, it's creating fragility. So if you think about this, like so many kids, we want to raise them to become anti-fragile. But how can they in a world of instant gratification? You can scroll, you can see anything, you can Google anything. It's all at your fingertips. We used to have to wait till next Thursday. Now that's the third one. Okay, sorry.
No, you're ready? Uh-huh. The AI revolution. That's the third force. Wow. So this is why we talk about it this way: information doubling. We do not think about the consequences on culture and our children. Information doubled every hundred years. It's been that way for thousands and thousands of years. Gutenberg printing pressure. By the way, it's a generation. Yep.
And that that gives time for that wisdom and knowledge to be transferred. Yeah, yeah.
Now it's you need time to let things think absorb it and process.
Then when the Gutenberg printing press came out, what, 300, 400 years ago? That went down to 25 years. Then you have the internet come out in the 80s, 90s a year. So information's been doubling at a year for the last 25, 30 years. And so even then we had problems. Where, I mean, I'll I'll use a this instance. How many people finish med school and then a third of all of the things that they learned have been upended by a new double-blinded placebo-controlled study?
Yeah. Oh yeah.
And they're like, I just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and I have to go back and relearn a third of it because information's doubling so quickly. That's been the way for decades.
By the way, it's it's one of the reasons why I told my kids, like, don't even bother going to college. It's like, because it's like the marketing and stuff, it's like it changes monthly. That's right. It's like boom, boom, boom. I mean, you had you have to go to seminars to keep up. School, there's what they're teaching is so paying for them to party. That's right. Yeah, right. There's a zillion reasons why. You know, we didn't know.
Number one regret, number one. So I'm I'm on, I'm coaching families all over the world, all ages. Little kids, teenagers, adult kids, grandkids. Number one regret right now, they spent a quarter million dollars and 18 years with a kid, and they spent another six figures sending them to a college that reverse discipled them away from everything they ever taught them.
And that was the probably the biggest reason why we didn't want our kids to go. We were afraid of that, obviously. Yep. You know, and it's not it's the institution, it's the people, it's the kids, it's the you know, just knowing your kid.
Like our kids didn't need to go
¶ The Four Forces Attacking Families
and get self-confidence. You know what I mean? They they're building them. We did.
These things happen at home.
Yep. Yep.
So So information now, now with AI. So it used to be a year. Yeah. In the last year and a half, that has been collapsed to today where it's every 13 hours.
What? All information, what does that mean, though?
What it means, I'll tell you what it means. It means overwhelm. It means the feeling for the first time in history where young people feel obsolete. They don't just feel overwhelmed, they feel like this thing is gonna pass them by so fast, they'll never catch up, they'll never keep up. How am I gonna have a job when an industrial week gets tanked? What's the future of work look like? This is how young people feel. Why do you think anxiety is going through the roof?
You compare you're combining instant gratification, which creates fragility, you're combining dopamine distortion, which creates addiction and isolation, and you're combining that with an AI revolution that makes them feel obsolete. See, those are the forces that are attacking our families. And it's not just our kids, it's us. And the fourth force, by the way, is anti-family focus.
Oh, it's everywhere.
Anti-family. Every force I've ever seen.
And we wonder why every these kids today, young, you know, this younger generation, college age, is looking to the government to take care of them. That's right.
The less freedom. It's entitlement, too. It's all part of these four things. Oh man, it's all here. Like, okay, I'll just give an example. Biggest show in in the 80s, early 90s, mid 90s.
No.
After Brady Bunch, that was a good example, but home improvement.
Okay, okay.
I wouldn't even announce that.
I was gonna say full house or something similar. Full house home improvement. Home improvement was the number one show in the 1880s.
It was for several well, not the early 90s. Tim out with Tim out, but it was it was full house home improvement. So you got the whole family in the home.
Yep.
Deep conversations. Tim the Tool Mantel, he knew his neighbor.
Yeah.
They had a marriage, they talked about real topics. It was slow jump cuts, and everyone's like, yes, American family. This is good. Traditional battle. What happens right after that? Friends. Seinfeld. 18 years, those are the top shows.
So no families.
Zero family. Uh-huh. Kids are a waste of time. They're an expense. Don't have kids. Don't get married. Half of those get ruined anyway. Don't get married. Live for yourself. Live in the city. Sleep around. Gosh, I never thought of that.
I never thought of that either.
It's a cultural force. See, these forces are subliminal. They are um it's demonic. It's it's evil. And so now we're fasting fast forward into a culture where people are like, I don't want to get married. I don't want to have kids. I don't want to overpopulate. Kids are an expense. I want to live for myself. It's all about the individual. The values of culture.
It'll never bring happiness.
That's right. It will never bring fulfillment. That's the problem. And so people are being duped. And so that's why we have started this war to take back the family in our mentor family program. We're like every single family in the world who cares about this, join in this fight. And we're coaching, we're training, we're launching families, we're getting them out to the world to help with the right strategies to protect against these problems.
Have you uh have you aligned with uh TP USA?
That's a because that's that's not a Paul, that's not a podcast comment, but I we know them. Charlie was in several friend circles. In fact, back to your comment, he told a group of us, he's like, if I ever do politics, I don't want to right now. If I ever do it, it will be on the ballot of family.
Because that was really his big driving stuff that was his drive. Absolutely.
Get married, have kids, like be a man, be a woman. Like, let's stand up for this culture, let's fight for the right values, like fight for gods.
And by the way, that's why he was labeled a hater. Yep. That which opposite, right? A uh a divider, because that's why he was saying, you know, no, get married. A racist. He was labeled all of those things, and people believe it because they hear it. And it's like, have you ever watched any of his men? It was the exact opposite of that, but that's what the enemy does. That's right.
Propaganda.
Propaganda.
That's why you people go, I'm not, I'm not getting propagandized. What are you talking about?
Oh, are you serious? You pick up your phone today? You you were.
At all times, you're either being influenced or you're influencing others. At all times. Your body and your life is osmosis, and you don't realize when it's happening. See, a deception is just that. The devil uses deception. Deception is, by definition, something you don't know is happening. You can't know, and it's not deceiving if you know.
By the way, I I made up a number. I say 50% of the information you pick up on yourself is is wrong. Yep, right? Okay, it's it's probably so much higher than that. You know, my area of health is what I know. She people bring me things, I'm like, that. Is so not true. That is so BS. It's uh, you know, it's like it's just you can't trust anything anymore.
I mean, it's just crazy. Guess where it's going? So, this you might ready for a little bit of a crazy future mind meld? I'll give you one minute on this. Jeez, okay. I study this for a living because I need to know where families can be protected, where we're going as a society. I speak on this. All right, AI. AI takes off in the last couple years. In the next five to seven years, there will be indistinguishability between what's real and what is fake. Yeah. We are going to be cloned.
Our voices, our videos. They send me videos of myself. I'm like, is hon, is that mean? That's right. And it starts with people clipping people's content. Yeah. You know where it goes next? News. Bombings. Murders. Yeah. Things that you that everyone thinks are real that aren't. They're not. And it then it goes into fraud. Yeah. It's already happening in the anti-fraud industry. Grandparents are getting calls from their kid, grandkid or their daughter being kidnapped and need this and that.
It's going to get way worse. And what's going to happen? Next step. Okay, then we need some sort of absolute verification process for the world, for individuals to know if you're real or fake. Oh my God. So then we're moving to blockchain.
Yeah, that's exactly what we're doing.
Full blockchain encryption for any social post, full encryption uh protected so people know it's you when you go to the bank or you pay for your credit card. You are chipped. Not necessarily in your wrist or forehead, but I'm saying we have to do this in the next five to ten years as a society if we're not going to have absolute anarchy. Okay. It's a logical next step for people who are futurists like me.
You have to realize, yeah, we that's going to be the only defense against a system of AI intelligence that's going to be reaching sentience that will be solving amazing problems around our world. Let's be serious. It's going to solve amazing problems. It's also going to create amazing chaos. That's right. And so this is you got to think through where this is headed. And so cash will go away because cash is very difficult to understand.
We have to move to a digital currency because it's the only way to keep from knowing if it's real or if it's fake. Now we're all chipped. Now we have this happen. Now we it's much easier for governments to collaborate and globalization to happen. So there will be a world currency, or at least a very it's not going to be exchange rates anymore. It's going to be going towards globalization for the sake of the safety of the individuals. And I'll stop there because you can see what happens next.
Yeah. So that is what we need to be understanding about the future. And then people wonder like, why is my 17-year-old stressed? Why are they sad? Why are they depressed? Well, if you add those four forces together, for the first time in history, more parents are worried their kids are going to commit suicide than get in a car wreck.
Right.
Mental health is through the roof. I call it the anxious era.
Oh, and then they're addicted to marijuana just to cope. Yep. Adderall, uh, Ritalin. Properly prescribed. Yeah, properly prescribed. Properly prescribed. The prescription is the answer. Yeah, I mean, it's like in, I mean, these are the I just mentioned the drugs that are considered normal. I'm not talking fentanyl. I'm not talking like, you know, cocaine. I'm talking about these are the drugs that like all the kids are doing that's normal.
Oh, and then they have their sugar drinks, you know, their bread bulls that are caffeinated up just to give them a moment of normalcy, a moment of focus. You know, oh, then nicotine now is like the new thing, right? You know, so two of my kids, Isaac and Simon, both got off nicotine. You know why they got on nicotine? So they could focus. You know what they realized at one point? It was keeping them from focus. It had them focus for such a small minor.
They start off with a small amount and they end up doing a Zin thing, you know, a day, right? Because they need it constantly. When they got off, both of them will tell you the same thing. I I didn't remember what it was like to feel like I could focus.
And it was the hardest thing they ever did.
Yeah, it was the hardest thing they ever did. Hardest addiction was breaking things. They said, My gosh, it's like I didn't realize what it was doing to me now that they're off of it and they've been off of it, praise God, they can focus again. Yeah, for months. Everything's a lie, it's all a lie.
And and by the way, then you have some people saying that this microdosing of nicotine is going to make you more productive and things like that.
Oh, yeah. And then it was like, yeah, it just grips you. Yeah. It grips you.
It's more addictive than most drugs. It's only a matter of time, and it depends on the person. Just like any other person that's not. It's a big deal.
Yeah, it's a big deal. And so, but okay, we've been pre we've been pre-trained to be quickly addicted now. Because of the dopamine hits. So it's because of the instant gratification.
Give us some good news. Well, I guess we can talk about the gospel. Well, no, because the answer is what you just said. There's only one good news. There's only one good news.
But let me let me say this real quick. And this is gonna, if if I haven't pissed off half your audience, this will get all of them. Good. Um anxiety is a sin to repent of, not something to medicate out of.
Oh man.
But that's a positive word, actually. That is helpful.
Well, because you're not there, there's shock value there. Break that down. Because these are strongholds.
Yes, that's right. And any stronghold can be removed and broken and torn down. Do you know what a stronghold is? A stronghold, uh, this is something I talk about all the time because these things need to be broken away from people and say, no more. I'm repentant of this, I'm done. You are not gonna control my life anymore. Get away from me. Okay? Jesus is the answer, in my opinion. I don't pull any punches.
Yep.
But there are strongholds in all of our lives, and this is what a stronghold
¶ AI, Overwhelm, And Obsolescence
is: it is an enforced area that I believe the enemy has in our area of dominion. It's on our side of the fence. It should be under our authority. Your mind, your body, your soul, you should have complete control and surrender to the Lord, but you should have authority over these areas. But the devil's put up a camp and he's got a stronghold there. And he uses that to start tempting and tricking and spidering out into a bunch of other things that can ruin your life.
Because his only goal is to steal, kill, and destroy all the good, true, and beautiful things of this world. And this is anxiety is a stronghold in our lives. It comes from it, can be a core wound, it can be a struggle, an experience people have had, a traumatic thing that happened. Yeah. But these core wounds and these strongholds, they've got to be broken off of us, or they are going to come out in a drug addiction, alcoholism, suicidality, um, pornography.
Like they they come out in those spiders. Okay.
Or just or just stealing your peace and your joy and your contentment.
I can sit here and think, hey, I have a stronghold. You know, it's like stealing my peace, right? And in a certain area that's in my domain. Yep. How do we break it? Yep. That's my question.
Well, the truth of the matter is I think that God is the only one that can break things off of us. So it's naming it, okay, understanding the power it's had, and saying, no longer. Lord, I repent of it, take it away from me. By the power of the Holy Spirit, be gone.
And that's done in faith.
Done in faith.
Yep.
That's it.
Man. You know what I love about that? It's so what you just said is so counter every bit of counseling, training, you know, message, you know, especially in my space in the alternative world. Yep. Right? People reach into mushrooms, ayahuasca, all these things that open up your subconscious and let the enemy in, you know, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, it's like just another stronghold. Just another stronghold. And what you just said is the opposite of that. Yeah.
You know, people think, people think breath work, breath work, cold play, meditation, right?
Psychedelics. Meditation, meaning like what? Thinking about nothing, Brady. No, you meditate on the word, meaning you study God's word. You're not meant to think of nothing. No, absolutely not. It opens up things in your subject. You want darkness? Think of nothing. Think of nothing.
That's right. You want light? Think of the word.
That's right. That's right.
See, this these are hard-hitting truths. See, in my life, I'm sorry, but it's a chance.
No, we love it.
We love it too, because I mean, I have a lot of people in our space who will watch this, and you know, they might turn it off right here. I hope you don't. But I know because they just heard something that challenged them because it's all about breath work. It's all about the next thing. It's all about meditation. It's all about and I and these things rub us wrong. They just rub us wrong.
And when God wants to- What you said is the answer, you know, is what people don't want to hear, unfortunately. You know, what you said is the answer is when intuitively I know is the answer.
Yeah, Romans talks about this. It's Paul said it. He said, do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our mind. By the renewing of your mind. What does it mean to renew your mind? It means to surrender to God. That is the only answer. Because everyone in this world has a decision to make. Are you going to perform as a way of life or are you going to surrender as a way of life? See, you can't surrender to ayahuasca. You can't surrender to the universe.
You can't surrender to yourself. That's just another false God. That's another fake stronghold. But people perform or surrender. They perform for security, achievement, power, influence, money, stuff, status, looking good. Fear of man, which people think fear, oh, I don't scare, I'm not scared of other people. No, no. Fear of man means you need their praise, you need their approval, you need their acceptance because you got a hole. See, so you perform.
And when you perform as a way of life and you don't realize it, all you get is this desperate need for control, toil, anxiety, and the only thing it doesn't give you is peace. It doesn't give you contentment, it doesn't give you rest. You are never gonna feel whole. The only way is to surrender. When the way to tear down a stronghold is to surrender it to God and to ask him to fill you and renew your mind.
And that's not outcome-based. The other is outcome-based, meaning it's based on your effort.
That's right.
And the latter is trusting him for the outcome. That's right. Knowing that as you give him yourself, he changes your attitude and your mind toward it.
So so many people are in performance mode, control mode, anxiety mode. Is if only I get to this level, I'll be okay. If only my bank account hits this, I'll be okay. If only my body fat percentage
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gets here, I'll be loved.
They're not, they're not, they're not. It's next, next, next, next thing, right? It's like, and again, this sets it up. You know, this is Oh my gosh, I bite. How are you impacting because you do so well, teenagers and kids? Because they're being, we're all being hit by this, you know. But you know, that generation is the one that concerns me the most because of the suicide rates, because of the addictions, because of, you know, everything that they're up against, man. The lies.
Their whole existence becomes a stronghold when we look at this. Yeah. What are you doing, man, to help them? Well, I do breaking through.
So our our mentor family program, we built it for this whole reason. It's like we're taking back the next generations, we're taking back the family. Hey, parents, here's what we can do together. So we're giving solutions every day to families in our training program. Um, but I will say this kids need identity.
Oh, I I do a whole lecture on that.
So do adults. Well, we all take that.
Well, the problem is they have identity, all right, but it's false identity. That's right. They need a real identity. And I here's my They need identity. There's only one identity. That's the one that created them, that gave them the identity.
Identity cannot be self-prescribed. Exactly. It can be it can only be bestowed. Yeah, yeah. You can only be given an identity by God. That's right. And we do everything in our power to create our own identity, and that just becomes a whole nother issue. Where it's like, now my whole life is defined by this trauma, it's defined by this goal, it's defined by the person that I'm dreaming of.
It's diff you you are creating your own identity that's only going to create more anxiety and more need for control, which control is an illusion. There is no such thing as control. We try to get it, but it's impossible. So true. So I think identity is one of the greatest um weapons of a teen to go into adulthood. And we call it an anger. So this is why we teach core values so strongly in our program. Very few families ever have a mission, core value, or anything.
And even if they do, their kids don't remember it or talk about it. And so for us, it's so much more about giving an identity that is from the Lord on them that they can carry into the world. And if if they have that anchor and these roots, then they're not going to be swayed by all the storms of life. And so, an identity, like here's a good example. In our family, our value, our values are faith family fish.
Fish stands for fun and adventure, integrity, service, and heavenly work, which is basically hard work with a purpose. No, you don't want to just raise kids to work hard and under what, where, where they're gonna go? They're gonna toil for the rest of their life and hustle and drive culture. Like, no way, heavenly work. So, faith family fish has has is an identity that our family has, and our kids say it every day at dinner without us.
Like they start talking about it, we correct to it, we talk about it as a family. Like even my two-year-old can say it. It's so simple and clear. Yeah. And now they have an identity uh of what it means to have our last name. And that will help them. It helps so many families and kids as they go into the real world. They're like, oh, now I know what it means to have my last name.
I know I'm gonna operate, I know how I'm gonna treat others, I know that I'm gonna solve problems and create value, and this is who I am. And, you know, with our daughter, another example of this is we'll say I am statements with her before bed. I'm loved, I'm chosen, I'm enough, I'm brave. Like these are things that are powerful over kids.
So if you have kids in the house and you're listening to this, go get a three by five card and write down I am statements for your kids or a verse over them, whatever it would be to give them strong identity, roots in your home. Read it to them, read it over them every night before they go to bed. It's one of the greatest hacks we've learned from the best families. It's like you're speaking identity, you're calling them up.
Put a crown two inches above your kids' head, and they will grow into royalty. See, I treat my kids two years older than they are at all times. At least I don't baby them, I don't talk to my two-year-old, like, hey, I'm talking to them like I'm gonna raise you up. A six-year-old can cook dinner with mom or dad, like an eight-year-old can do laundry. Like these are we we should be giving our kids more responsibility, not less. And it comes from that identity.
Like my kids know that they're they can do powerful things in this world. And I don't just say it to them fakely, I actually give them more responsibility to do powerful things in the world. I just went to Zambia. Did you guys hear about this?
I didn't know this. No.
It's been a wild season, and then we uh Zimbabwe, Zambia right there.
Really? Right in between them, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So we went in a couple months ago. Uh I took Reagan and Sawyer, our nine and seven-year-old, and we went to the bush.
Yeah, I've been there.
This is about to get wild. I've been there. That's awesome. I can't wait to hear it. Real wild. People aren't gonna believe what I'm gonna say.
No, you two, but yeah, I yeah, we we're the same area, by the way.
You won't believe it. So I went with a buddy of mine and his two kids, and we had like four kids under nine here. That's crazy. We went into the bush, and everyone's like, You guys are crazy. No roads, six, six hours outside of Sonoma, sand dunes, and tribes of people that have never seen a white person.
They've never I was in one of those.
They've never heard the name of Jesus, they'd never seen anything, no running water, no hospital, no buildings. I mean, just huts. Yeah, huts, mud huts. We we show up at this place and it was like mayhem. They were like hooping and hollering and yelling, they couldn't wait to get us out of the truck and celebrate. And that first night, we just started like meeting people and praying for them, and it demons cast out, people shuddering.
Oh, saw it and just collapsing on the ground and then sitting up in just total peace. Yeah, total peace. And hundreds of reports the next over the next few days, people slept like a baby for the first time. Wow, terrorized at night every night. Because the devil reigns through fear in Africa, the devil reigns through comfort here, that's right, and security. That's a different thing. He's very open there. He's out there hidden here.
That he would prefer to be in Africa because you can see where the demons are. Yeah, yeah. And here you can't. Well, you can now.
For the rest of my life, when people are like, ah, I've never seen like powerful things like this or miracles. I'm like, okay, follow me. Yeah. Go on to Zambia. I know. Because it's so desperately needed and it's so clear. The next morning, we go out to a village hut, like a hut area. There's a bunch of little hut areas. We see this group, this family is like 30 people in this little hut area. Well, we start praying over them. I shared the gospel.
All of them came to faith, and we're like, hey, God actually helps you. He's this isn't just like a monopoly game where you get your card to get out of jail. No, this is a real thing. He wants to help you and heal you. Is anybody in pain? And we start like praying over people. And I saw like broken arms healed in the moment. I this guy I prayed, I put my hand and started praying for him. He had distended intestines, three huge bulges.
And in the middle of praying over him, his stomach started gurgling and went flat.
Oh my god.
And he looks at me like I bet he did. And then starts jumping around and dancing. It was the craziest thing. Ten minutes later, my daughter and my son, nine and seven, they're they laid hands on a blind grandma, totally grayed over. I will never forget her piercing blue eyes, but it were totally grayed over. And they prayed over, and I'm just watching. And we just were right there, like, Lord, please help this lady. Holy Spirit, healer, do it. I know you can.
Amen. She opens her eyes, and her right eye is totally fine. And she stares at Reagan and she starts going, Mazuga, Mazuga, Mazuga. Like, and we're like, what's she saying? And the interpreter's like, She's yelling, white girl. She can see. And so I prayed again, and then she could see really good. And I walked like 40 yards away.
The other eye as well. Wow.
Not fully, but really, really good. Like, no more gray. She's walking, she's like shock. Everyone's in shock. The whole little HUD area is going nuts. So I walk 40 yards away and lift my right hand, and she's looking at me and she lifts her left hand to mirror me. And then I lift both hands up, and she lifts both hands up. And everybody went nuts. Oh my god. Best part of that story. I look over at my son, Sawyer. He's seven years old. And he's staring at his hands like this. I have a superpower.
Like he's literally like looking at his hands. What just happened? Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, buddy, that's a superpower. It's called the Holy Spirit. Yeah. And it was, I never had any experience like that before in my life. I've walked with God for decades, and it was a whole new world. And that kind of stuff is why not be open to it? I want my kids to experience these things.
Were your parents believers?
Yeah. Yeah. I grew up in a Christian home. Yeah.
Yeah. I thought that was the case.
And then, you know. Your family was a big thing.
Your family was in banking, right?
Yeah. Yeah. My family was in banking. I've been a serial entrepreneur, 10 companies, a thousand employees, and have had all the misery and awesome things and IPOs and almost bankruptcies. Yeah. But yeah, I came from my dad and my grandpa built Inner West Bank over 40 years. They built it up. He was like George, um, he was uh It's a Wonderful Life. Yeah. Yeah. George Bailey. George Bailey. That was my grandpa. Oh, he literally that wasn't literally him, but he was a perfect copy of that.
He started Woodby Island Savings and Loan in this small town up in uh Woodby Island. He saved the Navy three times, saved the town three times. Oh my god. Lived there his whole life, never left. Uh member of the church for the yeah.
Was there a Potter, Mr. Potter to be in the past?
Yeah, his name was Pat Fahy. Oh my gosh. So yeah, just an incredible family. And then when they exited the business, they put it all but a few million into a charitable trust for ministry and widows and orphans, and they sat us down and they basically were like, look, we've trained you up. We want, we're gonna train you guys to be successful on your own right. It doesn't mean there's nothing.
They helped with college, they helped with some stuff, but it wasn't this like we're gonna keep it and collect it and grow it until we're dead, and then you get this like giant dynasty. Yeah. They were like, no, we want you guys to grow up strong and blow by us in every way. And that is legacy. That's legacy. Raising kids to blow by you in all the ways that matter.
You know what I've always taught, we taught our kids is our ceiling will be your floor. And that is something that we have really, I mean, through hardship and adversity is really how that happened, honestly. To really we did. And not lucky. I mean that was orchestrated.
Our adversity literally became our luck because as I hear him talk, it's like I I want to redo. You know, it's like, gosh, man, we couldn't. We just didn't know what we didn't know. See, so here's the thing, guys.
I didn't grow up a believer. I have seen unbelievable transformation. Like every setback I've ever seen in a family, when they start to work these principles and get these things right, they see they're actually set ups. They are. They're you like you thought it was the worst thing ever. And you look back over 10 years later, and because you healed, you redeemed it, God did a miracle in it.
Yes.
Now it's stronger than it would have been otherwise. See, that's the beauty of it. And the the phrase that I've started to say is this your job as a parent or grandparent, your job as a parent is not to give your kids all the things you'd never had. Your job is to give your kids all of the things you never knew.
So true.
Because we all have holes. We all have blind spots. I didn't know. We all have things we didn't know.
And our but our kids live through that, right? They by default, it made them resilient. It made them say, I don't ever want to live like that again, right? I don't want that for myself. So they have, and and I, and people will say, What how did you raise your children to have that you know fierce sense of leadership and independence and confidence? And my only answer is, you know what? I told God, you love them more than me. You know who you chose.
And I didn't sign up for any of this, but yet I am locked into making sure these kids
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get where you choose them to be.
You know what I think it is with you guys? I think it's this what you don't heal from, you pass down. And if you don't face your demons head on, they're gonna raise your kids. But what you do heal from, when you do break these strongholds, even though you didn't know it before, now they're free. Yeah. You don't pass those things.
Yeah, you know what's funny is this morning I was in my time and that's it. I have this little blue book. And I always re- I was reading it this morning, right? And it was October 14, 15, and 16. And I always feel sorry, a little sorry for myself when I read the book because I always thought like God was going to answer this moment in the moment. I look back, oh you poor thing, you had no idea what was coming yet. Yeah. Anyway, but yet I I what year was it?
It was uh 2009, October 2009. And um, and then 10 got worse. And then it got, yeah. Anyways, but yet I saw the miracles happen. But here's what I saw. Here's what I remembered, I should say. I have all these notes. I thought my kids are gonna get this one day, and they're gonna start reading it, and they're gonna be ministered to. And and they saw me every day in those hard times, and we were broken family in so many ways.
And um they're they're gonna remember me in that book, and they're gonna remember when that was all written, right? It's like, and I just prayed in that moment. I'm like, Lord, you know, it's like I just I had all the hope in you, and that's all I had. And I said that all I have now, because everything was gone.
And that's more than enough. You know, it's like all I have now.
That might be one of your greatest gifts to them. Yeah, and it's right, and they remember that. Like, I people don't realize. So, did you know this? Uh, when an elder dies, a library burns. So, one of the I think one of the greatest misses we have as a society is we've lost the oral tradition of storytelling. It's actually one of the greatest ways to give identity, it's one of the greatest ways to instill values.
You having that chronicle, basically, it's a chronicle of what happened at the deepest, hardest, darkest. I don't even remember until I read it. And now they have it. Now they'll have it forever. See, this is why storytelling in families is one of our biggest priorities. Because you don't know, right? Like if you want to, if you want to kill a family, just get rid of the chief storyteller. If you oh, hey, here's an idea. Why do you think we're so close to World War III?
It's because all the World War II vets are dead. See, if we stop telling stories of the past and the lessons we've learned to our children and to the next generation, then they're not going to be able to learn the lessons.
I'm the storyteller in the family, you know, and I told Mary this the other day. And because, you know, a lot of my purpose isn't, you know, my kids are carrying on the mission that I've been called to, and they're doing a better job than me. And, you know, it's like, so I'm good with going. I don't have even a problem with that, right? But then I said to her, I'm like, why am I even working out?
Like, you know, it's like, it's like, I wish God would just tell me when I'm gonna go because like, why even bother with it all, right? It's I kind of get that attitude, right? So, anyways, but I hear you say that it's like, well, if I have one purpose, maybe it's just to continue to tell those stories. Maybe I need to tell them more.
And I have to live with this, right? And and try to support it.
But it's a dem, it's a it's most likely from the enemy, right?
You know, and I don't think that gives us visions of how we're dying all the time.
I think ever since that happened with Charlie Kirk, and he had an attitude that was I don't want to say similar. I don't know enough about his own story, but I've heard that he kind of had thoughts uh because of the threats or whatever it was, right?
I've I've had life, I've had my life threatened with the work we're doing for families and uh anti-human trafficking, all that stuff. I mean, I've had death threats, but I think the silver lining in what you're saying is I think it's a healthy thing to get to a point where it's like I'm good going at any moment. Because you can't because you can't be more surrendered than that.
Yeah, I really am. I do not fear death. I know where I'm going. And bring me, I was an agnostic, I was an atheist who came, you know, Christ saved my ass. I mean, it's like there's no part of me that was part of that, right? That's why I'm the guy who's like, you can't lose your salvation because I had nothing. Trust me, I had nothing to do with it. It's like there's no losing something I did not have anything to do with, right?
I I'm like a staunch believer in that because it's like, no, you don't even know me. Okay.
Unconditional grace. Yeah, for you.
Unconditional. But you know, the fact is, is that I really am at peace with it. That said, you know, you know, I just hearing that, you know, it's like, wow, you know, maybe telling these stories, you know, and seeing that what I read this morning, you know, it maybe it gives me more purpose.
Yeah. No, I mean to live as I mean, Paul said it too. To live is Christ, to die is gain. Yeah. We should not fear death. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It could happen at any moment.
I at times I really welcome it. I when I look at what's going on in the world when we talk about these things, it's like, but then I say, ah, it's the cheap way out, right? It's like, you know, meaning if God would take me tomorrow, uh, I'm happy with that. Holy cow. But I'm only okay with that if my work's done. Yeah, if my work's not done, yeah, then okay, Lord, I just show me the next thing then, right? Because I'm good, I'm I'll stay if my if you're gonna use me to a bigger level.
Yeah, I think having peace with life or death should embolden us in this life to go for it. See, I think that's where courage comes from. Courage comes from no fear of man.
That's right.
And like for me, I want to have the courage and boldness to do whatever God's asking of me, to go into the darkest areas of the world to help people, to help children, to save them, to help families that are going through darkness, to not be scared of those things. I can only get there if I have that peace. I I think there's nothing more dangerous than a man of peace. And so, again, surrender is the only way to get peace. It's like the only way to get contentment. It's the only way to have rest.
See, I you know how many people in my life over the last few months have like come to God who are like, Jesus, please, I need this. It's people who need peace. They are so anxious, they're so stressed, there's so many things under overwhelming them that in their work in for the reasons we just said the four things. They're so overwhelmed. Even with children, they're like, I don't know how to get a breath. This is overwhelming. I will never experience peace. I think that peace is the new profit.
How about this? Instead of trying to get your EBITDA or your financial number this much higher, let's pursue peace and that's their surrender.
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I agree. That's nothing, there's nothing better for health.
Well, people only want financial stuff because they think it's gonna bring them peace. Right. That's why they want financial stability, right? It's like because they think it's gonna bring peace. It's a trick.
Have you guys ever heard of mammon?
Mammon?
Yeah.
Mana. Mammon, no.
Mana was in the desert. Okay. That the Israel God gave manna to the Israelites. Now, mammon, though, you gotta hear this. This changed my life over the last year once we gave everything up. Uh, and if I haven't pissed off everyone in the audience, here's the rest of them.
There's two percent left.
Go, go. All right, so for the 10 people listening, uh Mammon is the thing that Jesus said was the other master besides God. So Matthew 6, Luke 16, Jesus said, You can't have two masters. You'll be loyal to one, despise the other. You'll love one, you'll hate the other. You can't serve both God and mammon. It's not money. People think it's God or money. No, no, no. Jesus used a pronoun. It was a transliteration. He used a capital letter word. And you're like, what's mammon? So I went deep.
Like a spell it? M-A-M-M-O-N. Mammon. Mammon. Okay, this is a big deal. And this this will free a lot of people. This is how you get peace. Okay. Mammon is literally the um the altar master of this world. And it's not money. Money is just a tool. Money's not evil. Try it. Money's a gift.
Absolutely.
Money makes you more of who you already are. It's not good or bad. It's just a dead object that you can use for be greater or worse, right? So it's not money. It's mammon. So what's mammon? Mammon is this insatiable hunger for more. Mammon is what uh it's like the Syrophrenicians and the uh Egyptians, one of their gods was like Mammon Ra. It was the god of power and wealth and influence and money, treasure.
So mammon that Jesus is talking about here, he's like, no, no, this is the spirit of avarice and greed and always needing a little bit more. You're never content because all you need, how much is enough? A little more. And so if let's say something goes tough in your life or your business, well, if your first thought is to check your stock portfolio or your bank account for how much money you can survive off of, then your backstop master is mammon.
See, we chase mammon thinking that it's gonna give us power, money, security, contentment, happiness, blah, blah, blah. Achievement, status, approval, all those things come from mammon. Yeah. And see, that's where this need for control and performance comes from. So I'm gonna perform for mammon. I'm gonna run on the rat wheel. I'm gonna toil. That's where toil comes from. It's an extraction mindset. It's like a slavery mindset. And you see this in business all the time.
People who serve mammon in business, they're gonna screw you. They're gonna treat their people like cogs in a wheel. People aren't investments, people are expenses. Yeah. See, this is mammon. And and or people are just running themselves ragged. The hustle and drive culture is the same. You're serving mammon. Because I'm trying to get the car, jet, watch, house, retirement, blah, blah, blah. The only answer is this surrender. It's right back to surrender.
The only way to dethrone mammon from your life, which Jesus says is the other master that will ruin you, is to surrender to him and lay it all down. Because then instead of needing control, you're complete. Right when you surrender on the other side of it is this feeling of, oh, I'm complete. I'm whole. I'm enough. I'm loved. And bang, contentment comes, peace comes, rest comes. And I think you won't get there without understanding your true identity, too.
That's right. That's right. Because when you're chasing man and you're chasing false identities or the desire to be something that you're not, and da da da goes on and on, no contentment. That's right.
But when you surrender, I think it's the first time where God goes, Yes. Now I can run on this guy's behalf. And he does. Now I can run on her behalf. Now I can work on your behalf. I can send my angels out concerning you. I can be your rear guard because now he gets all the glory. The surrendered person doesn't get the glory. Only God does. That's right. See, that's where the power comes from. I don't believe in prosperity gospel. I believe in a surrendered gospel. It's a provision gospel.
Absolutely. See, see, this is where prosperity gospel goes wrong. They see God like a slot machine.
Oh, yeah.
If you put your quarters in, you pull the lever, and you get your dollars.
By the way, everything's work-based, right? They're trying to do certain things of goodness to get this back. And to get it, I mean, okay, that's like God's not like that. Yeah, that's most religions in the whole world.
That's most trying to be God. Us trying to earn heaven, us trying to work with good deeds and enlightenment and moralism to try to get ourselves to godlike eternity. Yeah, or nirvana, or whatever it be.
That's why I was an agnostic. Because I sat in you know Catholic uh churches and you know, Sunday morning messages, and I'm like, blah. Yep. It's just I saw just incongruency. I I just saw absolute problems with it all. Jesus. And then I just rejected it instead instead of actually understanding the truth until later.
Jesus is the only one who came to us. See, everyone is about everyone ascending through effort, moralism, yeah, enlightenment, nirvana, whatever. Uh the God, the Christian God is the only one that came down to us and said, you know what? I'm gonna do the work. I'm gonna rescue you, I'm gonna pay the price for your sin. It's all Him. And so when you give your life to Him, it's a it's a surrender. Yeah. And yeah, we need to learn how to surrender real well. Yeah.
You know, and Danny and I were going through all of our hard stuff for those years. And, you know, obviously he's super gifted and quite talented, and God gave him those gifts and talents. And, you know, it was almost like we had we ran into so many walls, like he would come up with a new plan and and figure something else out, and it didn't work. And, you know, we went through plan A, B, C, D, E all the way through, and I hated the word surrender.
Like that word in the Bible was always very intimidating to me. And because I, you know, it's just it's against our both of our personalities to just give up. Yeah. And so whenever there came a point though where I realized clearly God isn't going to work this out because of our effort. And and what I learned is when the pain of holding on is greater than letting go, and you have no choice but to let go and let it let it go. And we watched in that moment this exchange takes place.
And it was serious-that's why it was seriously through that experience that that it was so I was so aware that God just started moving. I mean, he just started moving.
But it didn't happen until the surrounding. And it didn't, that's right.
And it still evokes so much emotion because there's only, I mean, we we talk about things like this, right? There's, you know, we're we're always living for, I mean, people know who we are and what we're about. And obviously, our heart is to share him through our message and our experience of our life.
Yeah.
And um, and yet, you know, just always saying he has not always shown up and spoken to us in certain ways, but it's always in retrospect. Uh except for the times that, you know, I heard him tell me that my husband would get well and take a message to the world. I didn't hear it, but I knew it. When I asked the question, that was the response. And um, and it's just such an amazing life to live.
Yeah. And and you wait for the next impartation of how God's going to move in your life, or if as he's moved, and you look back and you see that as your your witness and your testimony to what's possible.
There's so much power in it. There's power in surrender. It's not a weakness.
No, not at all.
It is a powerful thing.
But it's a giving up of yourself.
So many people are watching this right now and they're they're striving. Every area we just covered, right? They're striving either to be good enough or they're striving to be something they're not, they're striving in the wrong identity or shot. You know, what we're saying is that, you know, you hear the term bring it to the cross. That's the surrender, right? Yeah. It's like people need to surrender that.
And I I hope people right now watching this are saying, making their list of what you have to surrender. Yeah. Because that's the only thing. Giving it to him is the only thing that will bring the peace. That's right. Salvation is the understanding of there's nothing you can do that's good enough. We are all sinners. This rubs humans wrong. We all deserve death.
Yeah.
Because of what was born into us, you know, from Adam all the way through. Yep. But yet he's given some life.
We're wired to want to work for things. Yeah, exactly. We are wired to work for things.
Wait, we don't have to do anything. Yeah. You mean, you mean son of Sam can come to he murdered these people and he's in jail as a believer. You know, that might rub people wrong, but if he gives it up and believes that he is a bloody sinner, just like I am, you know, it's like just like all of us, in that we just have to understand that Christ did it for us on the cross and we have to surrender to that. Yep, that's it, man. That's the freedom. That is literally it.
Yeah. I mean, it's it's so simple, people trip over it, right? I mean, Christ is so simple, people trip over it. I think this is a perfect segue into what the heck happened
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a year ago because you were taught you had to surrender, and I already set it up, everything that you worked for and built. But then with you sat in this chair and you said, wait till you hear what God has done in the last year and what he's doing. So miracles everywhere. It's gonna give people a lot of hope. And it it it might scare some.
Oh, yeah, scares me half the time. Yeah. So we built, yeah.
When you told me you you're giving this up, I was scared. Yeah, even though I knew God's gonna work, I knew God is gonna do something. Yeah, but like we you know what my first thought was selfishly, glad it's not me. Yep, because I've been there. I've been there, I don't want to go through that again, but go ahead.
Well, it I didn't realize I all the things I was holding on for dear life, too. And you know, we'd had all these companies and growing all these things and valuations, and you know, this thing was $50 million and growing, and it was a great company that helped a lot of families. Um I felt like there was more that I was supposed to teach, not just money things, not just financial literacy or whatnot.
There was more there, and um it got, you know, there I can't say what I can't say, I gotta be careful. Um, because I love the company. I started the company, I still love the company. But I just wasn't free to be able to say all the things I felt like I needed to say about family and faith and freedom and your family as being your number one investment, and it just got to the point where we couldn't do it. And I was praying with my wife as a really painful time.
Um, but we were praying one day, and we felt the Lord say, How much do you trust me? And I'm like, I trust you. He's like, then put it on the altar. And we we were like, put it on the altar. Surrender. He said, You don't put losses on altars, you put gifts. Put it on the altar and see and watch what I do. And when he said that, it wasn't like a buyout, it wasn't like a leverage thing, okay, pay me my cut, blah blah blah, walk away and earn out over a year. No, it was surrender at all.
Like burn the shares, retire them, give up the social media with half a million followers, give up the best-selling book, give up everything and walk and sit with me and see what I do next. Terror. But you know when you've had that moment of terror, but you know you need to? Everyone has these moments. The scary, hard thing. You don't know what's on the other side of the door, but you know you're supposed to open it and walk through it. That's where we were.
And it was this moment of jump off the plank. Are you how much do you trust me? And so we said we do. And we wrote a letter to the board, handed it all over, burned 10 figures, walked away. And we didn't just walk away like, oh, now we can chill. We walked away millions in the hole. Because it took a lot of time and years and money to get this thing going. And that's different, right? Oh yeah. Walking away with everything taken care of, I'm just gonna retire. No, no, we were it was not that.
And over the next week, miracles. First day, I had a huge bill due. Like $86,000. And I was like, I don't know how to pay this bill. And I prayed. It's like, I've surrendered, Lord, I trust you. Hour later, John Clean Camera, our my buddy, calls me. He's like, hey, remember that veterinary clinic we invested in years and years ago that we thought went bankrupt? Yeah. They didn't. Here's the first distribution $86,000.
Of course. Boom.
To the T. Oh my god. Next day, my CPA calls me. It's like, you're not gonna believe it. I was like, tell me. He goes, check your account. We had a hundred thousand dollar refund in taxes all of a sudden from nowhere. Like they double text us and double checked a box or whatever, and we've been fighting it for a year, and all of a sudden, bang, it's back. Covers the next set of bills. Next day, random company calls me out of London. I met them once.
They said, We gave our lives to Jesus last night from our conversation. With you a few weeks ago. I'm like, what? And they emailed me and they said, God, we prayed for the first time today, and we don't know why, but I think God told us to give you a thousand 150,000 shares of our business at penny warrants. Here. It's a certificate in the email. So they're like, what do we do now? Do we go to church?
It was hilarious.
I'm like cry laughing. Like you are right now. I'm literally like I was I just remember being like, God, you are so good. So good. Next day I get a uh call, I won't say who, for privacy reasons, but it was at Department of Ed. We want you to help run everything. We've been researching you. Are you interested? Out of nowhere. They're like, you're the candidate on our list, and uh we're moving things from the Fed to the state, and we want to figure out the future of education.
Surprise.
And I'm yeah, and they're like, and that's you. And I'm like, whoa. I was like, well, I'm starting this new thing where I used to have a gold medal and running headlong into things that God didn't tell me to do. So I'm just gonna pray about this for a few months and see. Ultimately, you know, God said no. When I helped find another person that would be perfect. But yeah, and then a couple days later, my partner in an old business calls me. He's in tears. He's like, You're not gonna believe it.
And I was like, at this point, I will believe anything. And he's like, Yeah, we just got a big earnout last night that we didn't even know was in the contract. The buyers of the business years and years ago hit the goal and they just wired the money to check your account. My cut covered every dollar of the debt we were in. Massive miracles left and right. And it was that moment that I went, all right, Lord, I if I wasn't surrendered before, I was fake surrendered, I was half surrendered.
Here I am.
Now it's here I am, send me wherever you want. And he has. You tell me whatever you want me to do, I'm doing it. I am no longer tied to money. I'm no longer tied to status. I don't care about being in the rooms, I don't care about shying away from the truth. I'm gonna say it. You want me to launch something crazy, I'll do it. You just tell me what you want, and I'm gonna sit with you in my prayer closet, and that's where I've been for a year. And miracles happening.
Our new family content, the new mentor family stuff we've been coaching, it came from all that. We built something 10 times stronger than we've ever had before in this program. It's transformational. The anti-trafficking with Tebow that we do is exploded, and I can't take any credit. Yeah, it's just exploded. And we're saving countless hundreds of thousands of children, maybe even a million now. I don't even know the number.
Wow.
It's unbelievable what's happening. And now this new discipleship stuff we're working on to help people like get to know the Lord and actually get real in their faith. Like that's coming out of nowhere. And God is using me. God is raising.
And God is using you. I mean, you're going global here, right? Like you're you're writing this book without your name on it, right? It's like of how to really disciple. Kind of tell that, like what you feel the future of discipleship really looks like. Because um, with the death of Charlie Kirk, I think the world is seeing something unique right now. And you know, I I think that there's a shift coming. And I think you're at the you know, the front of this.
I mean, maybe you and others, but you know, God has you at the front line, let's say that.
Yeah, so it's gonna be called kingdom habits. And what I felt like the Lord shared with me is hey, we need to get people serious about the kingdom. And not just like everybody looks at heaven and hell as like, am I going to heaven or not? That's what everyone thinks. Yeah. And I think what God is trying to tell me is that is so small thinking. Going to heaven is pretty simple. Put your faith in Jesus, ask him to save you from your sin.
We covered that. It's pretty easy.
That was that was like 101. Hey, come over here. Come here. Oh, your dog is drinking my water. Yeah, he's thirsty. He can have it. He can have it.
So he didn't get his tongue in.
I think what the Lord was sharing with me first was it's about so much more. He's like, I have so much more in store for you on this earth. Because guess what? When Jesus came, he brought the kingdom of heaven. The kingdom of heaven is not some other crazy realm out there that nobody knows about and God's over there somewhere else and doesn't care about us. No, no, Jesus came as God and brought the kingdom of heaven near. Yeah. It is here.
And anybody who accepts Christ gets the Holy Spirit, which means you get the kingdom of heaven in you. And you get to spread it out everywhere with the way you love people, the way you serve others, the way you have faith in the Lord and trust and hope, and like let's expand the kingdom of heaven. It's only good for everybody.
It's the best way for a society to flourish, it's the best way for a family to flourish, it's the best way for our world to thrive, even if people haven't come to the decision yet to know Jesus.
Yeah, no doubt.
So let's take Islam. Islam, for instance, Sharia law is convert or die. That's not Christianity. Christianity is like convert or I'm gonna still love you to death. I'm gonna do everything. I'm gonna love you to my death, not yours. Jesus said, I'm gonna die so you can live. And that's how we're supposed to live, surrendered and loving of others. See, this is completely game-changing.
And so what he's showing me is like the kingdom of heaven is here, and it's so much more than just getting into heaven or not. So many people are like, I hope I make it. I hope I I mean you saw Trump that clip recently where he was just like I don't know if I'll get into heaven.
What a good conversation for many people to have with him. I'm stunned that they haven't had it yet.
I would love it if Trump went like, yep, I'm a sinner. I've made a ton of mistakes in my life, and I need Jesus to save me. Please forgive me.
That's what I wanted him to say. Of course we don't get it. It's like, yeah, yeah, oh, on my good deeds. Oh, yeah, I would never go to heaven, but thank God it's not about that. It's about what Christ did for us. Donald Trump.
Imagine that.
Donald Trump is no more of a sinner than I am. That's right. I have just as much sin and stain, and I deserve as much destruction and death as he does. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I I have been freed. And I wish he understood that. And I wish so many people thought that. And they're like, it's not about earning. You cannot ever do enough good work to outdo the bad. There's no such thing. Yeah. There is no such thing. Like, who's gonna compare? Like, there is a chasm between us and God.
That's right. Um, Isaiah says that God lives an unapproachable light of holiness. If you see his face, you you'll die.
Yeah. Like that's how glory.
That's right. Like, you don't you think God is like this bearded white dude in a robe? What are you talking about? He is the creator and source of all that is. Yes, yes, and you will literally melt away in if your sin approaches it. We need to be covered and cleansed by the blood of Jesus.
Amen.
That is what gets into heaven, not our effort.
You know, because people don't really understand the holiness of God and they don't understand their own sin. They don't. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So and they'll never be saved if they don't know what they're being saved from. Absolutely. Because people go, oh, he's a good person. Uh you know what's funny in my prayer time this morning, I thanked God that I so clearly see my filth. Yeah. You know, I so clearly see the filth of humanity, even, right?
It's like, and and I don't say that to Brager Bows, not
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quite an opposite. Matter of fact, what I thanked him for is, you know what? Thank you for that gift. Yeah, you know, because it's so clear to me, you know, that humanity deserves death, and some have been, you know, chosen in Christ. And it's like, my gosh. It's like, but to understand the holiness of God is another feat.
I mean, to understand how holy he is, it makes if if we had even a glimpse of that, we would fall prostrate in front of him, crying out because we're that sinner, we're that disgusting with ourselves.
It's not that you're like God's this wrathful, judgmental God because that's gonna happen someday. Oh, yeah. See, see, there's you either meet the loving Savior God now through Jesus Christ, that's right, or you meet the wrathful, judgeful God in the end because you know what is the case? It's not that you can't get in because you weren't good enough. It's that anyone who's stained with sin literally can't exist. Exactly. You can't exist. It's a it's a physics problem. It's a yes, if you will.
I mean, you know, it's it's like it's not little, you'll just like evaluate. You have to be covered with the blood. That's why Jesus is like, I'm gonna cross this gap. I am he is was perfect, he was God himself. Come down to sacrifice on our behalf on the cross to pay the penalty for our sin. So he who was had no sin became sin for us so that we may become, become, as an identity, the righteousness of God. The greatest treasure of all, the righteousness of God.
And the only way to become that is surrender and just believe it and understand you can't. Like that's so easy. I mean, you know, it's like, oh my gosh, so I don't have to strive. I don't have because I when it when people would approach me about Christianity, you know what my response was? I'm not giving up this, this, this, I'm not gonna live my life, the the the and I had a list, right? And it's like, you know, I'm not gonna be a hypocrite, I'm out. Yeah, because I'm not like them.
Yeah, look at all the Christian hypocrites. Yeah, because you know what? I sat in church, you know what? When I actually arrogantly started reading the Bible, yeah, it because I was in an argument, a two-week argument with a friend of mine, and I and he said, You don't, you've never even read it. So I said, I'm gonna blow them away, man. I'm gonna read it and I'm gonna know more than him. I was like day one, I was like, no one ever showed me, no one ever told me this. Right.
I mean, I was in the gospel of John because someone said, just read that and go from there. And I'm like, no one's ever, I sat in church. I sat, no one's ever said this to me. Why? Yeah. You know, it's like, so how many religions are screwing that up, or how many religions, how many churches, whatever? That's the reason. I were in that moment, I realized it has nothing to do with my being good enough. Right.
I I think um faith and works is an interesting topic that I just wrote about in this book. And people think that like you have to earn it. Good, just be a good human. I'm a good human. I go to church once in a while. How would God judge him? Yeah, I give things, I give cookies to kids. I'm not mean, I don't harder and kill. Well, that is not what we're talking about here because you might be the nicest person ever, but you've still had sin in your life. Absolutely. It's an all or nothing.
You either are all sinful or you are pure. That's so. There is no middle. Okay? And so But the only big way to be made pure is through the blood of Christ. That's the point. That's the only answer. And so people are like, well, what about works and faith? Well, faith spurs you to works. Okay? That's right. If works have nothing to do with salvation, everyone thinks it's faith plus works is salvation. No, no, no. No, no. Works are a it's like a fruit. It's a fruit of salvation.
So you are, you you are. That's right. You are, you produce. Faith leads to sanctification, not sanctification leading to faith.
No.
So you're you're doing enough good things to try to get closer to God. That's an impossible feat. Impossible. Faith alone. For it is by grace you have been saved. We just transformed some minds right there because people are like, oh my gosh. You can't get an inch closer to God. In fact, there's nothing you can do to make God love you any more or less.
No.
But just because he loves you infinitely unconditionally doesn't mean that your sin situation is figured out. And he's like, I'm gonna figure it out through Christ, and all you gotta do is believe and surrender it. That's it. Yeah. And so by grace we're saved, not by work, so that nobody can boast. It's not a good thing.
But when you're saved, God changes your butt. You all of a sudden start to do work. That's right. You all of a sudden, it doesn't mean you don't sin every day or struggle in it, right? That's right. But all of a sudden you start to become someone you weren't, and you start to produce actual fruit. It produces.
Amen. Amen. There we go. We just gave uh a theological representation.
All the years of it, we just gave it to you right there. All the years of church, right? There's the truth, and that's it.
Oh, there's so many truths like that. Oh my gosh. Yeah, this book has been an unbelievable example of that.
Yeah. So when we're looking at this um new discipleship, this you know, way God in these times will say, end times, or we've been in the end times. We're maybe more in the end times, right? Who knows? Yeah, who knows, right? We don't know.
I think Jesus is coming back soon. Let's just be honest.
Exactly. And what is what is it when? I don't know. I hope so. But and I hope it's sooner. I I that makes me happy. But God's going to reach people differently than sitting in a pulpit. Yep. I've known that for many years. I've said that many years. He's used my business and you know, everything he's used me for to do very he's the same with your businesses, right? Yep. What's it look like going on? Because we had this conversation.
Yeah, I think the next greatest move of people getting healed and meeting the Lord is going to come in the marketplace. It's going to come outside the church walls. I think we can't live in a world anymore where people in the church have outsourced uh evangelism to the pastor.
That's right.
They're like, they literally cross, they cross their fingers and squint their eyes, hoping that more people will come to church to hear the gospel.
And isn't Charlie Kirk what's happened after his death? And I I her father said these words, right? Our dogs are flaring. My guys, they're done. Um he said, if God loved him and he dedicated his life to God, and I'm paraphrasing, why would God let that happen? Merrily. And I was sitting over there and you're like where you are, and I'm like, Rod, you know, it's like it's like, wait till you see what God does with this. I believe God knew he was gonna live 31 years.
I believe God had purpose in his life to now. I believe God had it planned out. Wait till you see what happens. And of course, that was the day after or something. I'm very slightly, and then all of a sudden, I mean, look what's happened.
I mean, millions. Largest gospel presentation in history. Yeah. Hundreds of millions of people heard the gospel. They heard the see, and this is the number one thing I want people to understand. The kingdom of heaven isn't a burden, it's a blessing.
Yes.
When you are walking and living in the kingdom of heaven here on earth, it is more peaceful, it is more joyful, more powerful, it is more, uh, there's more rest, there's more miracles. There, these are treasures to be experienced on this side of heaven. The fruits of the spirit are unbelievable when they happen in your life. And I want more and more people to be healed in their marriages and with their children and with their health.
Our dogs like have had enough. They're like literally they want to play. No, but you're right. It's like, and and that's it.
That's why the habits are there because I want people to experience this stuff now. Yeah. So the the setup of this model is just gonna be like inviting your friends or people that might not know the Lord. I know. Hey, come on, for the next couple of months, I just want you to experience some of these habits of what it means to live like a disciple.
Yeah. Because they're gonna help heal your marriage, your parenting, your children, your relationships, your health, your financial situations, your work, like the anxiety in you. I want you to be healed of these things, to start to experience the ways of the Lord. And I think that's the next wave is people meeting God outside the walls of church. There's billions of people on this planet who are never gonna set foot in a church.
And I don't think they have to, because the Bible never said we had to have buildings. Yeah. We said we're the church, and we get to love people and be radically generous, radically forgiving, radically loving, radical stewards to care for others. And so that's what this is gonna help people do in all around the world. So we'll see what happens.
I said in the beginning, healing was what this was about. And when I probably opened the show, people are like, oh, what's he talking about? But what you just said is exactly right. Healing is going the greatest healing ever in the history of humanity is coming. And it's going to come in the way you just said it's coming through Christ. It starts with surrender. And it starts with surrender. Amen. And it's coming through Jesus, man.
And I'm telling you, I since Charlie Kirk's death, I have been able to have, we have been able to have conversation after conversation with people that I would never have been able to have that conversation. Oh, amen. Our Jewish friend, her daughter, sat there at breakfast one day, and because of Charlie Kirk, she started watching his videos and watching everything that was opposite of what she was told.
And she sat there and drilled me with questions for an hour to the point she says, I'm gonna start to read it. And do you know what questions? Can I cover it?
My mom told me recently, since that conversation, which was just maybe three, four weeks ago, that she's never been more proud to be Jewish.
Wow. Because I said, you don't have to get rid of your Jewishness. Jesus was Jewish. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, oh no, you got it all wrong. I said, you know, we're we're grafted in. You know, anyways in badness.
She just needs what it's about. Just need Jesus' Lord and Savior. Right. He fulfilled the Old Testament. I love the Old Testament law. We wouldn't have the New Testament without the Old Testament law.
You know, we just are we're just about finished with even the new uh season five of the chosen.
Oh, yeah.
What a great I mean, it's it's just so worth watching for for anyone that isn't familiar.
You gotta hear this. Have you heard of ground war versus air war? No. Oh, okay. Here you're gonna love this. So there's a there's a war going on. So if everybody's still listening, there's a battle. Whoever's left. The battle's spiritual. Here's it's a spiritual war. Yes, it is. Um, our our war is not against flesh and blood, it's against the powers in the evil realms and the spiritual realms fighting each other. Yeah, and they are using people as both times.
The battle you're going through in your health, your family right now, it is spiritual. Absolutely. And the enemy is taking it, and we need to claim the ground again. Break the strongholds. Go ahead.
That's right. But I I have realized as I'm writing through these programs, the kingdom, the war that's going on, and the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of darkness. And what I'm seeing is there are two types of wars: there's ground war and there's air war. Ground war is like one-to-one discipleship and serving each other and helping like spread the gospel and spreading the truth and helping people heal. And that's costly. It's personal, it's slower. Air war is the fight for culture.
Air war is the war that's happening in education, Hollywood. Where Charlie Kirk was. Yep. Policy and the law, politics, art, movies, the move, cocoa melon. Like this is air war. So here's the problem. We as the church uh have abdicated the air war over the last 50 years. We have literally stepped out of those realms and said, no, we're just gonna like focus on the ground war and work on the one-to-one and go to church, just be good humans and blah, blah, blah.
Okay. Well, if you've ever been to real war, you'll know that you could take a miles and miles of ground war and all of that could be eradicated with one bomb from the air. One plane dropping a bomb sets you back decades. So World War II is won. That's right. And that's what's happening right now in the church. We are abdicating the air war, and we're just letting it go and letting the secular world and the anti-God world take it and run with it. That's right.
And so that's why I am so big on we got to fight that.
Yeah.
We got to fight air war because we got to give them air cover. We want to protect the ground war and the this the one-on-one service and love and discipleship and meeting the needs of people in the community. We need to protect that. And you know where that battle starts?
At the dinner table. It starts the dinner table. It starts in your family. That's right. Because saying no more cocoa melon, right, is an example when they're this high, right? Saying no more to this, right? Here's our here's our values and core values in our family, right? Take control of that ground, that's air war.
That's right. Yep. Yeah. It's the greatest, that's the first and biggest war.
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Yeah. So anyway, that's why people need to understand what you know. They look at Charlie and they're like, why don't you just stick to like the church? He's like, because if if we don't fight for what is good, true, and beautiful in the law, then it's going to persuade an entire generation of people away from God. And the in fact, true speech, the Bible, will be hate speech in about 10 or 20 years. Yeah, if you lose air war, then the Bible will be hate speech. It already is.
If you're like, I believe abortion is murder, hate speech. That's how it was in Biden's years. I am I actually believe homosexuality is not the God's best design for us. He loves you just as much as he loves me and he wants what's best for you. But I don't know how to make it make sense with the Bible.
Yeah.
That's hate speech four or five years ago, and it will be in the next 10 if people take it over and outlaw it. That's right. So this is why air war is so important. Transgender. Like there is two genders. There are two genders. And this is the kind of stuff we have to be able to fight against. Yeah. And if it's not in the law, right? I don't believe church and state, by the way, should be like the state should make everybody be Christians and force them to a convert or die.
That's not what it means. No. Church and state was actually a law written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists that said, Don't worry, we're not gonna like pass a law in Congress to make the Presbyterians the only way to go. Right, right. So it was literally a fight between, not a fight, but like a worry of the Baptists and the Presbyterians in the 13 colonies to figure out who, like, hey, can we just make sure we're both able to like continue to love the Lord?
That was what that letter was. Wow. It's nowhere in the Constitution. Okay. Freedom of religion is on the in the Constitution, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have good Judeo Christian values that help for the flourishing of society, whether You believe in Jesus or not, we need a society that promotes good moral grounding that are biblically based. And if you don't have that, then it creates mass chaos in society.
If you let secular Marxist principles into society to make the laws, then it will turn into anarchy and chaos.
That's why every country but ours right now we see just falling apart, right? Yep. You know, it's God gave us a little view of the end, just even with what happened in the last administration, right? Even with COVID and everything and how quickly these woke values and males or females, females or males, we don't know what to call it. And this was all all of a sudden males are in women's sports. I mean, what the heck? I mean, that happens so fast, Scott.
Yep. And it and it shows you all of a sudden we are mandated and forced to put something in our bodies that ended up harming people. I mean, the list could go on of what we saw of how fast freedom can go like that. But man, I'll tell you, God has given us a window here for his kingdom come. That's right. Right? This window is because he has a plan and he needs this freedom to do what he's doing next.
Totally. This is this is.
What are we gonna do with it? That's the thing. What are we gonna do with it? You know what I'm saying? What are we going to step into? We're either gonna be on God's side being used by him, or we're gonna that work.
There is no middle ground. That's just no middle ground.
You're gonna be taken out. You're gonna be taken out.
That's right.
And I think it really just comes back to this idea of look, if you're sitting there thinking, like, I hope uh I hope God likes what I'm doing. I hope he's like, I hope I'm doing enough good stuff, or I hope I'm he's pleased with me. That's not the right thinking. The thinking is I want to be on God's side.
That's right.
I want to do whatever it takes to be following his will and his plans because they're for your good. They're not tyrannical. No, they're not oppressive.
And they're not boring.
By the way, slavery was eradicated by Christians. That's right. Not promoted by.
Right.
Okay? You have to the you need to get your history straight. Right? Like the the rights of women was upheld by Christianity.
Yep.
Whereas the rest of the world were completely tearing down all of women's rights.
Yeah.
The most important some of the most important characters in the New Testament in Jesus' days were women.
Yep.
Sanctity of life. See, these are good, true, and beautiful things that come from scripture. And that is what people think. Is that they for some reason they think Christian, like, oh, Christian nationalism, you guys are all gonna make everyone have to force them to be a Christian or they can't get a job, or kick them out of the country, or you're gonna kill them. Yeah, no. That is ridiculous. That is anti-Christian. Totally. But you know what I am? I love this nation and I love God.
And I want to have a nation that supports people having a flourishing life. Absolutely. And I personally believe that if you follow biblical principles, it's the most true and good and beautiful thing we can have as a society, even for those who don't believe in him. Yeah.
That's right.
And there's no other system that will allow for the flourishing of everybody than that.
That's right.
That's right. So that's an important thing to discuss. Instead of the Christians who say, no, we don't need to talk about the law. I want no Ten Commandments in schools.
Having absolute authority keeps people in check.
Yeah.
I mean, it's that simple.
Truth. Okay, truth has to be exclusive.
That's right.
There's no such thing as subjective truth.
That's right.
You can say that two plus two equals four. I can say two plus two equals five. Those are both. One of us is right. That's right. Now we could both be wrong. Yeah. Maybe you think it's six. True. We could both be wrong, but they are exclusive statements.
Yes.
And I think people get it wrong when they say that like Christianity is so exclusive. No, no, no. It's the most inclusive thing you could ever imagine. He's inviting everybody. Everybody. Everyone's invited to the table, regardless of your background, regardless of your people.
Male, female, black, white, gay, nothing. Everyone's invited, man.
It's the most inclusive thing. And he looks at them all the same. But you know what it is? It's singular. It's not exclusive. It's singular. There is a system, there is an answer. It's not whatever everyone thinks and your own truth and your own relative thinking. And if you No, no, no. It's singular. The gospel is singular, not exclusive. That's right. See, that's what we have to understand. It's the most inclusive because all are invited. Yeah. But it's singular.
It says, no, Jesus said, no one gets to the Father. It's one way except through me. I'm the way, the truth, and the life. Thank God it's only Him.
Thank God it's not me, bro. That's right. Thank God. Thank God. Where do they find you more? How that because they're like, I want more of this guy. In my prayer closet. Come on over. Oh, where do they find your material more?
Oh, uh, so yeah, we have if if you have kids or grandkids, I I would say, I think everyone needs to go through this. It's our mentor family program. Yeah. So they can just go to my socials, which is just Scott Donald, and go to the bio. Um, or you can put it, we'll give you a link to send everybody in the show notes. All right. And they'll send them in. We have a case study of what the best families in the world have done to help their kids from all over the world.
We also have like a coaching program for families to get it right because you only get one childhood per child, and we need to get it right. Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
That said, I I don't even know how to end the show. I don't know so hard. Maybe I'll let you do it.
Well, I mean, full circle, right? What's the most important thing in our lives as humans with sovereignty? It's our faith, it's our family, and it's our freedom. And I just, I'm just, I feel so blessed. I feel convicted. I feel grateful. I feel like if it wasn't for him, none of us would be where we are. And and most importantly, in these days, it's it's making a difference for what God is up to because it's really all that matters.
Now, see, I knew she had the clothes. She wrapped it right into the beginning. Yeah, faith, family, and freedom.
And what doesn't if it if it doesn't point to Jesus, there's no point.
There's no point.
That was my mom's last advice for me the day I left for school.
I remember you telling us that story. Yeah.
And my dad's was tipwell.
Yeah. Oh, that's right. That's right. Right. And what was his? That was funny. It was humorous. We judge it. That is a good message.
I say at the end of every show, share this, but I mean, come on. I mean, you have to share this. I I mean you this show should go viral just uh in a the biggest way possible because of where we're at right now. Um, as a country and the world, humanity, everything. Share the show, like it. It's gonna get it in front of more people. So, and you know, visit um where he just said to go, Scott Donald, visit everything you can see.
I'm Scott Donald, and yeah, it's called Fig and Eagle is the name of our brand, but you can just look up mentor family or go to our socials.
All right.
How can we pray for you?
Oh pray for conviction.
Because we know you're following.
Yeah. Pray for conviction. Um, no distraction. One of our habits in the book is devotion versus distraction. And the habit of the kingdom is devotion. And I there's just too many distractions, and I need to be saying no, and I need to be sold out on these missions with conviction. And that's what I need prayer for.
Amen. Amen.