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today. Actually, these guys were skyping in from Connecticut. But we had a great band called DC Wolves. Cannot recommend them enough, really really good. But yeah, we've had just tons of great, tons of great musicians on the show lately. It's been amazing. And if people would like to
catch that show, they can do so. They're going to Matt Connerson dot com four to six Eastern Standard time Monday through Friday, or if they are in the greater Manchester, New Hampshire area, they can tune in at ninety five point three WMNH. So you can catch them on the live airwaves, you can catch them on the internet waves wherever you do. Matt will waves and he'll let you. I am in hall in tap dancing. It's an open door chaotic policy, right Matt, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
one way of putn't it a cap dance? I haven't done for since before the pandemic. I have wait over to but we just don't know when that's going to happen. But I won't surprise you. One of these days, I won't tell you I'm coming, I'll just show off. Yeah, you get your new Do you get your new COVID shot? Nope? Ah? Did you? Yeah? I don't fool around. Yep. I got my new COVID shot and the flu shot all on the same day, and it put me down. It put me down hard for one night, like it
always does. I barely got through my show that day. But it's worth yep. And I am in no way, shape or form an anti vaxer. But because of certain things that are going on with me medically at this time, it has been recommended I bypassed this one. Oh really, okay, yeah, so but what But they assured me that the fact that I did the first three rounds will give me some immunity. And then two weeks ago, more or less, my husband got COVID for the first time.
Oh no kidding, And you know he's a type one diabetic, and they hit him hard. We ended up in the emergency room and but he's better now. But I was sleeping beside him the more, you know, like sleeping beside him a couple of days that was coming. On the day he tested positive was an hour after we'd been sleeping side by side, breathe in the same air, and I went got negative the whole time. Yeah,
you know, so I may be one of the lucky ones. Anyway, who knows, Well, you probably you probably had it and didn't have you ever tested positive for it? Nope? Never me, neither, But I just assume neither, as Jenny. Actually, but I just assume. I assume I've had it, and I've probably had it more than once. But
you know, I just you know, I'm vaxed up the wazoo. Sorry anti vaxers out there, And uh so I probably just I probably had it and just had no idea, was just asymptomatic, you know, and probably you too, You probably had it. They estimated about ninety five percent of the American population has carried it at some point, so almost impossible to avoid it completely. So you know, you probably had it and I was just a symptomatic. So yeah, but you don't have to apologize to the anti
vaxxers unless you're trying to shove it up there wazoo. Well, well, anyway, but yeah, what is before we jump into the world of politics, because there's a lot to discuss, and I'm anxious to hear some of your perceptions on what's going on and some of your best guesses of how things may unfold, none which we hold you accountable too. How else is the world of Baton? Oh it's not bad. I've got a big I'm actually gonna have to take a day off from the radio show for this, and
that's really unusual. But coming up on October twenty sixth, I've got a big corporate event in Providence. I'm gonna be hypnotizing a room full of real estate agents. So looking forward to that. Those events are good, good, good money. Oh yeah, I do corporate events. I know exactly what you mean. I don't do anys a hypnotist. I do it as a motivational, inspirational speaker. Yeah you know. I always open the room with the same line, good off, harass and do something good with the
light works every time they're really motivated and inspired. What I like to do is if it's people in sales, what I like to do is get them into a state of deep hypnosis and then I and then I perform the Alec Baldwin scene from GW Glengarry glen Ross and I swear with them. I don't really do that, but it'd be funny if I did. The interest rates are in your favor. The interest rates are in your favor. Uh huh. I can just get the sublivable suggestions you must put in there. Ah,
well, that's good. Yeah, congratulations on that event. You've got to I've got an event on Sunday, a zoom event, and if anybody out there is interesting, they can go to actual NH Metaphysical dot com n H Metaphysical dot com. I'm doing a spiritually interactive panel. I have three of the practitioners from that are involved with New Hampshire Metaphysical and myself discussing through heaven and Hell exist. Oh and and you know it's a free zoom event.
People can share their ideas, ask questions, do whatever. We do these SIP events once a month. You know, last month was what is the soul before? Is you know, psychic or psychotic? Next month is going to be how have we lived before? And what does that mean? And we're just trying to get a number of I'm gonna call it competent and qualified spiritual people spiral ty and hailers to kind of weigh in and give different perspectives nobody's right, nobody's wrong, and it's really I call it a sip
event for the spiritually curious. Come take a sip, just because there's a lot of people out there looking like their own religion has deserted them, or they've had a bad experience in the New Age metaphysical community, or you know, they've been taken advantage of by a spiritual teacher or a religious figure like a priest or a minister, but they still feel that longing for connection to something right. And so we do these events once a month just to take
stuff around. You know, we're not indoctrinating, nobody's pushing their belief system or religion with just having an open conversation. So that's four o'clock Eastern time on Sunday sometimes, Buddy, Yeah, Hampshire Metaphysical dot Com. Jenny would probably love the conversation. Who have you read it for a rally? Yeah,
I don't know. I mean, she's she's kind of gotten away from a lot of that, but I am curious because so yesterday on the show, coincidentally, we were talking about I do a segment on Wednesdays with my friend Eric Pilcher. It's called My favorite conservative because he's my favorite conservative largely because I can have a conversation with him and we can disagree about we can disagree about things without it ever becoming contentious or you know, acrimonious or anything
like that. You know, he's just very easy to talk to, and we actually do agree on some things. He doesn't like Trump for example, in fact, he despises him, but he's you know, he's an evangelical. But he also does our classic film reviews on Fridays and this Friday, well tomorrow, his classic film review is The Exorcist, and so we actually he got into a conversation yesterday about about exorcism and demonic possession. And uh, I told a story because I'm I'm you know, I'm a skeptical.
I'm not I'm not a religious person. I was raised Catholic, but I'm not. I'm not religious. But I told a story. And I don't know if I've ever told you this, doctor Kevin, if it's ever come up on the show. But not something that happened to me, but something that happened to someone I know, an English teacher I had in school named
mister Phelps. He told a story once about how he had a friend who had a mountain climbing accident and ended up in like a full body cast and I think might have been in a coma or he was in and out of consciousness, and mister Phelps was visiting him in the hospital. And while the guy's lying there unconscious, all of a sudden, his eyes pop open and he grabs mister Phelps by the arm and starts squeezing really hard, and he's
grunting. He's making like these growling noises. And mister Phelps when he told this story, and this was when I was a kid. Obviously I was in school when he told this, but this story has always haunted me. He said that he looked into his friend's eyes in that moment, and his
friend wasn't there. It was like something else was there. I've never forgotten those words, and that story has always haunted me because it's not something that happened to me or even something that I witnessed, But for some reason, hearing that story, it just really stuck with me in it. It stuck with me all these years. I remember hearing the story as though I heard it yesterday. And he was a great storyteller. He told a lot of
stories. That's why all the kids loved him. But that's the only story I actually remember from mister Phelps. So I don't know if you have any thoughts on that. But we ended up on the show yesterday. We ended up talking about demons and possession and exorcism. It was kind of an interesting twist for my show. More like you were on my show. I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, well it happens sometimes on my show.
You never know where we're gonna end up. God, you should have just taken a second and text me and said tune in, call in, weigh in. Yeah, I know. If I wasn't with clients, I would have. I don't even remember what I was doing yesterday. Yeah, I don't remember what I was doing last hour. So like it all seeks, it all work. Do I believe that possessions happened? Absolutely? Have I had first hand experience? Absolutely? Could I tell you stories of actual
things that happened that I was present for. Absolutely, And I actually do on my ghost DVD and when I teach my ghost class, I'll talk about actual events that have happened in the last thirty three years of me doing this work, that they were witnesses for people saw this shit happening. It wasn't just me, And yeah there you know, just like you have people that are in form that feed off other people. Actually, you know, takes
the concept to Sheriff Freuden to a whole new level. People that are sadistic, people that get joy out of other people's pain. And of course, you know, I teamed this up with that in my in my practice, by one on one practice with people I've had. I've had more than a few through the years, and a couple that will I will never be able to forget some of the stories, even if I wanted to cult abuse svids.
And you know, when you think of the horrible things people do to each other and intentionally, and that there are people that literally get get it makes them happy. They get sexually excited by it. I mean like they get turned on by killing somebody. Yeah, I mean, these energies survive the body. So just like there are things out people out there that you don't ever want to be in a room alone with, there are energies out there that you don't ever want to have attracted to you. Right, Why
why is that such a far bridge for some people to cross? You know so, well, well, I think it's a far bridge for some people to believe that, you know, an entity can actually occupy another person's physical being. You know what I mean that that I think is what someone like me who is skeptical, like, I'm skeptical of that. But again, I for some reason that story just haunts me, you know. But yeah,
well I'm kind of semi stealing a meme I saw on Facebook. Many of those people are the same people that said, oh, yeah, somebody got crucified and like was completely dead and got up and walked away. I can believe that, Yeah, that absolutely happens. Not a problem. Oh okay, you can believe that. No real historical evidence. All the eyewitnesses are long dead. But it's too far to say. There could be a malignant energy, and you have some people that are susceptible to it, which
could come across as a mental illness. We like to call it a mental and emotional illness. And you know I have said for years, You've heard me say it, Matt, eighty ninety percent of mental and emotional illness have some kind of psychic ability that is misunderstood, has has gotten in some way
twisted or warped that is involved with that process, you know. But but are you Are you saying then that if someone is seemingly possessed that it's not it's not literally a demon, but rather it is an energy that is causing because you know, psychiatrists will tell you who you know, psychiatrists who don't believe in possession, which is probably most psychiatrists will tell you that that it's just it's just mental illness. But is it? Are you saying it's actually
an energy that is so in a way, it's both right? Is that what you're saying, that it's actually an energy that is causing that mental illness to come out and therefore resemble what some might interpret as a demonic possession. So let's follow this line here. You're familiar with the term Claire audience, correct? And if you're not, let me define it because there may be
some of you. Is it Claire Audience is somebody? Go ahead? Oh, I was just going to say, I'm I'm familiar with the term, but but please yeah, go ahead, because I might I might have it wrong. Yeah, Well, and somebody else out there might not know what it is. So Claire Audien is the psychic ability of psychic hearing where you will hear things and it comes out in a number of different ways. There is an aspect of Claire audience that is used in mediumship a lot of the
time. You know they'll hear the voice of the departed. One Claire audience can also come out that you hear what people are actually thinking versus what they're saying. I had somebody that I worked with that said, ever since even since they we're a little boy, that their mother could have the sweetest smile and stay in the most gentle way, and he'd be like, stop yelling at me, because she'd be yelling at him in her head, and she
would she told me this story. She'd be like, I'd be so sad at him, and I'd take a deep breath and I'd go and I'd say, now, you know, they'd be like stove yelling at me, and you'd go out, and I would because he was so sensitive. I would make sure. But he was extremely Clare audience Clarodian can also be that you get your psychic messages through voices in your head. Well, if you talked
about books in your head, well, what's that called? Yeah, So the question is how many how many people that have schizophrenia could have started with just being Claire Audience and then we're pushed to a mental illness and then lived up to the label that they had and just had a psychotic break. Do I believe in psychotic breaks? Absolutely? Do I believe in demons absolutely? But I believe in demons is an energy, a demonic energy. It's an
emanating evilness, okay, and so when that comes in to somebody. Again, I don't want to get into a lot of stories here, because if we want to talk about demonic depression, demonic possession, we should talk about the GOP. Yeah, yeah, one one one will lead to the other,
certainly, but I think it's a mixed bag. You know, if somebody is an EmPATH and they don't understand what that is and they're wide open and they're a strong impaths, they're feeling what other people are feeling, and they get so affected that next thing you know, they're manic depressive or fast forward bipolar because they're constantly having all of these feelings that they don't have a reason to have, and they go into a hyperdrive of feeling management that then
plays out in a mental illness way. So it's a it's it's complicated, it intertwines. Yeah, but if we if we if we recognize a very psychic child and told them it's okay and taught them how to deal with it, they're less likely to get labeled with some labeled because let's let's face it, a m a APA and pharmaceuticals number one thing is what's our new thing for the week we can diagnose, prescribe, and find a pill for because
that's how we stay in the money. Yeah, so they're looking, they're looking, and you know, not that I'm saying all all anybody is bad, but let's say in general, that's what moved those industries is they don't they're not they're not be healthy, stay healthy based right right with mental health with that physical health, you know. So anyways, but yeah, that's definitely a way in. And I think speaking of demonic possession, what happened
in the House of Representatives this week? What do you think how's it going to play out? I'm gonna show or or Chris is going to get mad at me if we don't talk about politics, because you know this is my
favorite show of his. A month is having you walk well. That well that that was actually going to be my next question because part of why the subject of demand of possession is so interesting to me as I'm trying to understand Matt Gates and is he uh it has is he possessed or is he just naturally malevolent sumptia he has no, No, I'm going to call it.
I think Matt Matt Gates has a baby version of Trump and sees yeah, successful famous father who we don't know any about the relationship between this guy and his father, but he definitely shows some narcissistic tendencies. He is, you know, an intention seeking whore mm hm. And he I don't know that the man actually knows when he's lying. See like with Trump. I don't
think Trump knows when he's lying. I think trying that everything he says is the truth, even if he says the opposite two seconds later, that is the new truth. Yeah, it's pathological. It is pathological. I think there's a pathological nature to Gates. I go ahead, you said something though about it. Does Matt Gates have a famous father? He was famous in the Republican Florida, the GOP Florida state. Oh okay, oh, right, right, right, Okay, it's coming back to me now, Okay,
right, I'm sorry, Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so he was he same, his dad is famous in politics or was in Florida. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, and you know, ah, you know a lot of people are saying his strategy is he wants to run for governor because you know, DeSanto's is definitely on a crash and burn. And I don't know when it's going to happen, but I heard this,
and maybe you can verify if you heard this. He has agreed to have a debate with Gavin Newsom, and Gavin Newsom is going to chew him up and stick him out. Yeah. I think that's happening last I knew. And I think Sean Hannity's going to be the moderator. Yeah, Gavin is going to serve him breakfast, lunch, and dinner regurgitated. Do that's gross? Yeah? But I mean yeah, do you think the stantis can best Newson? No? No, no, I mean Newsom is uh. You
know, even people who don't like Gavin Newsom will acknowledge. I mean, he's he's pretty pretty sharp, he's smart, he's quick. We might have talked about this before, but uh, Patrick bet David, I don't know if you're familiar with him in his podcast, but he was talking to somebody about Gavin Newsom. And Patrick bet David actually left California, moved his whole business to Florida, everything because he hates Gavin Newsom so much and wanted to
get away with him. But even Patrick bet David acknowledged that when Gavin Newsom sat down for that interview with Sean Hannity several months ago, that Newsom really brought it and Newsom was prepared and uh and and really knew his stuff and uh and was very sharp and impressive, and uh, you know, I think I think he should be the I think Newsom should probably be the Democratic nominee, to tell you the truth, but uh yeah, and DeSantis isn't
that great a debater. I mean, you know, he had to debate Rick Scott and he did well enough to defeat Rick Scott. Uh wait, no, was it Rix? No, I'm sorry, not Rick Scott, who was a Charlie crist I'm sorry. He had a debate Charlie Crist and pretty well crushed him in the uh, in the election for governor is uh Desanta's reelection. So but no, I don't think he can handle Newsom. Now I'm going to tell you, and I'm sure you're going to not find
this any surprise. I find some degree Newsom and Buddha Jedge are cut out of the same plot. Yeah, well prepared, highly intelligent. Newsom's more aggressive, but I think Pete getting more so. But this is the future of the Democratic Party is candidates like this. That's you know, our are our people that are sharp on top of it. Keep throwing down the facts, don't don't you know, can push back against people like Hannity or Trump. But we are coming up on our first break. We will be right
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have some thoughts or ideas, you just thought that you're respectful. The only people to get get to be disrespectful of being Matt, and you can do that by calling in at two O two five seven oh seven oh five seven. That's two O two five seven oh seven oh five seven. So historic, the first speaker that's ever been bounced bounced out by his own party. How do you see this? You know we talked about what was it in first gate Gates and you know that whole trying to become the Florida Republicans.
Of course, you know the numbers are working against him because there are more young people getting to the age that they can vote, and more old bag is dying, so Florida could shift back blue, you know, sooner than we think, and one good hurricane could be very helpful. Ah but eh, not that I'm wishing for one, mind too. No, well, actually too you mentioned that. But DeSantis seems to benefit from that, which I think helps keep Florida red because he tends to get pretty high marks for
his handling of things after a hurricane. Floridians seem pretty happy with his his disaster. Your response from what I can tell, Yeah, but his own g OP supported in Florida is cracking. What I hear is yeah, well, they love Trump, they love Trump above above all else, and they want to get their invitation to margar Lago. You know, yes, they want to They want to be able to dive in the toilet and you know play, you know, like you know, you bob for apples, you
bobb for secret documents. That's right, you know, go to any bathroom in mar A Lago and you push your head in and see if you can come up with a secret classified document and fell up at the highest fitner. Ah So, but also I have to ask, though I do want to stay on what you think is going to happen. With the House of Representatives. Did you see the Cassidy Hutchins interview one Jimmy Fallon? Oh do you mean Jimmy Kimmel or did she also? Yeah, actually I saw that just
this afternoon. Yes, yes, So we may talk about that a little bit too. But let's stay with the House over us. What do you think is going to happen? We know what we we know what has happened. We know that Nancy Mace is on the outs with a lot of stablished Republicans right now. So if you want to do any review, quarterbacking, any any any armchair quarterbacking on what's led us to this point, feel free to do it. If not, then let's we can talk about what do
you think? What do you how do you see the way forward? Well, I will say I and I said this on my show, I really kind of wish and I understand why they didn't, but I really kind of I wish the Democrats had rescued Kevin McCarthy, which they could have done,
and I'll tell you why. And by the way, I understand all the reasons they didn't, and all the reasons they didn't feel like they should, and why they were perfectly happy to let him burn, and on the merits, I could not effectively argue against any of those reasons why they feel that way. So they have a right to feel that way. I get it. I'm not trying to be critical of the Democrats on this. However, to me, just pragmatically speaking, it's the devil, you know, I'd
rather deal with. And see, there we are, we're back to that. We can't escape at devils and demons and everything. But I'd rather deal with the devil I know than the devil I don't. And in not rescuing Kevin McCarthy, whom I have very little regard for, I'm not trying to defend him. But the problem is now, you know, we might end up with Jim Jordan as House Speaker. Of my deep concerns thinking long term,
but not even that long not even that long term. Is you know what happens the next time it's time to raise the debt ceiling again and say somebody like Jim Jordan is House speaker at that point? What happens because at least Kevin McCarthy, as awful as he is for all kinds of reasons, at least Kevin McCarthy understood the importance of not of the country not defaulting on our debt. I'm not sure a guy like Jim Jordan cares. Steve Scalise
I would trust a little bit more. He's a little bit more of an establishment Republican than Jim Jordan, who I think is perfectly happy to I mean, you know, don't get me wrong, Jim Jordan did not vote for the removal of Kevin McCarthy, but they're good friends. Jordan wouldn't do that. But I think he's a lot closer to that fringe, that Freedom Caucus spring than he is in terms of being a mainstream Republican. So I worry about where we end up now. Again, I understand the Democrats. They
don't trust McCarthy. He's broken his word. Nobody can trust the guy, and I understand that. You know, he was not conciliatory toward them at
all. Just this past weekend, before this all happened, he was McCarthy was on the Sunday talk shows trying to find ways to blame the Democrats for us almost going into a government shutdown and just you know, just being very partisan as always and just trying to blame everything on the Democrats, and apparently they played a video of that at the beginning of their meeting when the caucus meant to decide what to do if they were going to bail out McCarthy or
just let him burn. So I understand all the reasons, and I think that if they were going to bail him out, if they were going to come to his rescue, it shouldn't be for free. Of course, you know they should get something for that, but but I also know it's it's hard to come to somebody's rescue who doesn't seem to want your help. Because throughout this McCarthy's attitude seemed to be I don't want the Democrats to help me. I don't like them, I don't need their help. But they could
have done it. They could have rescued him, and I wish that they had because I'm very, very deeply concerned about what happens next. I'm very concerned. So I can't I can't blame them on the merits. I can't refute any of their arguments for why they didn't want to. I get it, but damn, I really kind of wish something could have been worked out here. I'd feel better with Kevin McCarthy there than Jim Jordan's or god knows
who else. I'll say that, Well, what was the guy's name, Huster maybe, but he was the speaker of the House that resigned and ended up going to jail. Oh, Dennis aster pastor yep, faster, yep. And I was watching a commentator said, well, the GOP learned from its past. Probably not. But putting in a wrestling coach who who has allegations that in any way there was involvement in the abuse and the sexual abuse of wrestlers is probably not a good idea. And the people that are the
witnesses are not letting it go. They're still speaking out. They're being out loud and saying we went to him, we told him, he did nothing. He you know, so he allowed it to happen, right and and so I just thought that was a wonderful little parallel. But you know, the GOP is so screwed up right now. The one thing I understand what you're saying about McCarthy, you know, it's that the time is coming gone.
I think McCarthy might have been able to pull out some Democratic support and keep his gavel if he had, If he had gone on the morning shows and said, look, there are moderate Republicans that want to keep the government going and do not want all of these people to go without pay. The Democrats have come in, we worked as a team. That's the only way we're going to get anything done. I'm a speaker for the whole House, and we're going to start moving some things forward, and we're going to take
the house back from a small groove of extremists. And I think if he would have been willing to do that and negotiating good faith with the Democrats, maybe they might have trusted him a little more. But yeah, the morning show thing was like I think he almost wanted it to do. I think it put him out of his visery. I think he knew when he was saying those things on the morning show that he absolutely was like, I'm done
with this job. I think you might be right, uh, doctor Kevin, because I think if he had done what you just laid out, yeah, I think he could have. And I and I'm actually surprised that he didn't do that because I've been under the impression this entire time that, you know, keeping that gap was the most important thing in the world to him. I mean, he went through you know, if there's anything that I will have a tiny bit of grudging respect for Kevin McCarthy. You know,
he doesn't, at least not usually, he doesn't give up. I mean, he went through fifteen rounds of votes before finally becoming Speaker. And you know, and I'll give him a little bit of credit. You know, when I was terrified that for the first time in our nation's history, we were actually going to default on our debt, and he kept saying, Nope, nope, we'll get it done, We'll get it done. And I
didn't think he could get it done. Then he did, and you know, so I was surprised that he didn't do what you just laid out, to be honest with you, But I think you might be right. I think there might have been something in him that just said I've had enough. I can't I can't keep doing this. I've had enough, and I'm just gonna you know, screw it. He may have gotten to that point, yep. I when I saw that, I'm like, yep, he decided this is not worth his billa in Thoms. Yeah, and screw it.
He He will be recognized that he kept the funding going on his watch, the government didn't shut down, the death ciling got lifted and in in the history books, uh, you know, you know Gates and the Gates, Demons, back to demons, Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Bober there, you know, in terms of Republican from where South Dakota or North Dakota or whatever. But I saw a clip of that was just interviewed and I can't remember
what his name was. I remember it was from one of the Dakotas, and he said, the GOP has to fix itself because right now, electing somebody else to run the clown car is not going to do any good because it's still a clown car, right. I saw that quote. I forget who it was who said that too, but I did see that quote.
Yeah, and I you know, I think that you're because there's a lot of Republicans who are in swing districts that are thinking, how am I ever going to get re elected if this shit show continues to spiral the way it is. Yeah, I loved I care. I don't don't remember what her
name was. She was a woman of color, she was a bulldog, and she when she was making the list of and if Lauren and if we shut down, there will be eighty nine and thirty seven people that will that will will you know, not get paid Lauren Bobot's district and there are gonna be thirteen you know, like she had the numbers of every one of the Republicans that was blocking it and how many people in their actual districts we're not
going to get a paycheck on the first week of October because of their shenanigans. Did you see that clip? I didn't see that. No, Oh my god, Matt, you have to find it. Yeah, she was on fire and she had the evidence raid in her hand. She knew down to the last person, how many people's jobs, how many people were not going to get paid if the government shut down in each of those troublemakers actual
districts. Yeah, huh, Yeah, that was a powerful click. I think she might be a I think she might be from Florida, actually, one of the few Democrats from Florida. I'm not sure, but anyway, So for the w Wasserman Schultz, no, I don't think so. Okay, if I find the clip, I'll grab it and text it to you because you want to say it. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah. So now this I think just happened before we went on air,
and I know you go from your show to this show. But now they have filed a motion to dismiss all of the federal charges against Trump because Trump said he was just doing his job as president to make sure the election was done. And he's asked judge, I can't pronounce your last name off the top of my head, but the female judge in DC Chuckkin. Chuckkin, Yeah, Chrucktin. Method is it's hard, it's hard to keep them all
straight. Yeah. Has has asked Chuckkin that this whole case should be thrown out because he was just acting as president to make sure they were fair elections. Oh oh okay, well in that case, why didn't he say so sooner? Yeah? I mean, like this is going to work, because what do you because you know, he just got a gag order, a very limited gag order, but a gag order from his current trial that he's
going through. Uh, there's a conversation coming up about if, what if, and what the parameters of a gag order are going to be from Chuckkin, any thoughts on that? Uh, it's it's uh, well, the biggest problem to me and and I it really is like I was an hitting
when I said it's hard to keep track of it all. I'm having a hard time even keeping track of who's looking at issuing a gag order, and who hasn't yet and this and that, because Trump insults everybody, and he tries to put everybody in danger, which he really does when he's talking about these people, and you know, there's always a risk that some militia freak is going to try to kill somebody, one of these judges or lock clerk
or somebody. So, but one of the difficult things is if you put a gag order on Trump and then he violates it, which he will, what do you do? Then? Do you put him in jail? How does that work? I mean, we're in so much uncharted territory here. I mean, I'd be fine with seeing Trump thrown in jail. But we have the other problem of no matter what is done to Trump, whether he's indicted for something or thrown in jail for something, no matter what it is,
all it does is make him stronger and helps him raise money. I mean, we're in such a incredible time. I mean, it's so bizarre I think the word you're looking for is dysfunctional. Uh yeah, yeah, definitely. Yep. Well he's not holding up. Well did you see the Fox News thing they did where somebody on Fox News talked about his his demented ramblings and gave several quotes he had given in the last week. Oh yeah, I think it was Tarlov on The Five who did that. Yeah,
it was on the Five. Yeah yeah, oh yeah. And you know, if if Loretta James gets half of it and him was in his business license in New York and his stuff being put up for sale, which he already has, he's lost the case. Yeah, he doesn't understand he's lost the case. You don't you understand he doesn't understand he's lost the case, right, he doesn't get that he's lost it. Yeah yeah, uh,
he literally does not get that the case is lost. And so if somebody in in receivership, somebody buys Trump Tower and they take Trump down, we could just see the poor man just, you know, fitting sucking his thumb and a diaper in the middle of Manhattan. I mean, that's so much of what makes him up. Oh yeah, of course, of course I noticed the pattern with him in his speeches where he seems to be because it's happened a number of times now, where he seems to in his mind,
he confuses Biden with Obama. He talks about having he talks about beating a Obama in twenty sixteen, or yeah, he talks about Yeah, he talked about beating Obama in twenty sixteen, like he ran against him, and he he talks about you know, even the the Obama administration acknowledges how much of the wall that Trump built, and it's it seems to happen a lot,
like he can't keep them straight in his head. Well, I ran across this old clip that when it was when Obama was still president and it was some kind of dinner or something, and Trump was at it, and he was and he was already running, but Obama was still president and Obama just humiliated him time and time and time again. Uh yeah, at the White House correspondence dinner. Yeah. And I think that this is part of what has made Trump obsessed with Obama because he humiliated him. Yeah. I agree,
that's more than the Trump mind can take because it's inherently racist. It's inherently racist. It has a big huge white supremacist thing and he was humiliated. Yeah, I mean, and I think that in his mind as his mind is slipping because he won't be able to take these defeats. He's rightly not capable of taking that. We're going to see a psychotic break. We just have to hope it happens before I don't know. I mean, maybe we'd like to see it happened in the middle of it running for president.
Yeah, before he before he's elected. Yeah, yeah, but maybe after he's got the nomination, right, But you watch, we can see it coming, the confusion, the screwing up, the name, stuff like this. Yeah, No, he's headed for some kind of psychotic break. And again, I just want to remind all my listeners. Though I'm a doctor, I'm not a medical doctor. I could not diagnose, I could not prescribe, and I am not doing this as a professional diagnosis. I am
not a propinician. But he's going to have some kind of break if things don't somehow start taking up. And you know, I've heard a lot of talk about the possibility of will Chutkin. That's the DC one, Will Chuckkin. If Trump gets out of hand, she won't throw him in jail. She'll just move to trial up really quickly so he can't take the jewelry pool,
which is his herst thing there. Yeah, so you know, and that could really be the beginning of James over if that happens, because you know, she made a statement somewhere, if you can't control him, then I'm we'll just I think I think the comment because it's not like it's just a fear she made. She made a comment of some kind and in that comment that was like, if he's gonna if he's not to stopping, he's gonna take the jury pool, we'll have the trial in October. Mm hmm.
And she can and she can do that. Oh yeah, yeah, So I think there's a lot of movie pieces here. What do you think Nancy Mace is up to? Why did she turn on McCarthy at the last minute and not make herself very popular? Any any ideas? I'm not really I'm pretty puzzled by it, to be honest with you, I don't I don't know what her Uh I don't know what her game is. Okay, you know, I think she has a big future in the Republican Party, but uh, I don't know what she's trying to do. Go Trump Speaker
of the House, Liz Cheney Speaker of the House. Probably neither, but I would take Liz Cheney. I take Liz Cheney too. Okay, well, I'm sure we'll have lots more to talk about when I talk to you next month. All right, Thanks, doctor Kevin. Thanks as always, have a good one. Bye you two.