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oh not a time. So this is the first Thursday of the month, and I would like I always said, and like every first Thursday of the month we have our returning co host, but we've missed the last couple of months Thursdays, so I can't say every first Thursday of the month, but most Thursdays of the month, first Thursday of the month, we are joined
by a dapper young man knowing him as Matt Connerton. Matt Connerton has his own Monday through Friday drivetime show on WMNHU and you can listen to it if you're not in the Manchester, New Hampshire areasten to it on mat conton dot com or ipmnation dot com where you know it used to be where he spent a lot of time carrying apart to politics of the Day claims to be neither a liberal or a conservative, but one of those you know in between.
Can't make up his mind people. But I think he swayed a little over the years and he now has really last time I talk to him, has blown a show out and it's probably half politics and half music. Is that fair, Matt? Is that what's still going on there on Matt Connerton Unleashed? So probably more like maybe two thirds still politics and a third music, a lot more music than we used to do. Yeah, okay, well that's good. So like we used to have, we used to have in
studio musical guests maybe two or three times a month. Now it's more like two or three times a week. So and it's a two hour show, so you have ten hours of airtime every week to fill. So yeah, that's good. No, it's been it's been really successful with the increase in the musical guests. The feedback across the board has just been incredible. People are really digging it. It's a good balance and it's it's good for me.
It's good for my mental health. I love politics, but the music is like a because when we have musical guests, it's always in the second hour's that's like a palette cleanser, you know. Yeah, you gotta get to con do something to to wash that horrible taste out of your mouth of
talking about politics for an hour. Yeah. So now I just want to remind our listeners this is a live call in show, so is Matt and I kind of dig into the cycles of what's been going on over the last two or three months, Matt, because we have antarg for a while and I'd like to get your view on a few different things as our local as
our local political expert. But it is a live call in show, So you can call in at two two five seven seven five seven two O two five seven h seven O five seven and you're gonna ask Matt or I any conversations or questions you'd like. We just ask that you make them respectful, because if you're not respectful, that's why we have the hang out. Putton, So met you. First of all, how are you doing? You're talked about mental health and you've been very open on your social media pages that
you struggle at times. How are you doing these days? I do it okay, Summers summer is her time for me. I think the I think the increase in sunlight is helpful to me. And and also I like the warm weather. I'm not particularly bothered by heat. A dry heats always better, but I can handle humidity pretty well, although Jenny keeps it nice and cool in the apartment. She likes to run the air conditioning. But yeah, so you know, doing okay, you know, staying busy this week.
I'm actually so normally I'm calling you from the radio station right after I get off the air, but this week we're on our summer break. It's only for a week, so we're just running best of this week. So I'm actually I'm actually calling you from a parking lot because I was on my way back from seeing a client, hypnotherapy client and running a little late coming back, so I was like, oh'll just pull into this target and call into the show from here. So I'm actually in the parking lot of Target
in Hooks at New Hampshire right now talking to you. Oh okay, Well, and I guess that makes sense that you just finished with a hypnotherapist client, because you know, isn't there like a target involved in hypnotherapy that you're supposed to try to hit her something that's kind of a tortured analogy. But I suppose sure, but yes I should mention too if I can just give myself a shameless plug. We've installed a brand new booking system and I'm sorry
oops at Matt Connerton dot com for booking sessions with me. You know, I do them virtually, or if you're within thirty minutes of Manchester, New Hampshire, I will go to you. And we also, oh, this is something new too, doctor Kevin, because it has been a couple of months since we've talked on the show. I'm also now doing sessions at Birchwood Salon in Hooks at New Hampshire, which is a wonderful place, so there's
some options there. But we've we've got a whole new booking system up at Matt Conterton dot com and it works us endedly and it's very very user friendly. So but I know you have listeners, you know, probably all over the world, so wherever you are, you know. One one of the few good things about the pandemic, because we have to find these silver linings where we can, is people got used to doing things like therapy and doctor
visits and hypnotherapy. In my case, people got used to doing that virtually online using platforms like doxy dot Me for example. And you yeah, I mean you probably see a lot of clients online, I would imagine, don't you. Well I I have, I have for quite a while, even pre pandemic. Yeah, a lot of phone clients. And it's really interesting. Go ahead. So I was just gonna say, that's what that's what I thought. Yeah, I do a lot of phone clients. I've always
done. I mean, I mean, there was there was a time back in the early nineties and then again in the early two thousands where I had a physical location and a center and people did work out of it and people I remember see me. Yeah. But and then I did another center in the late nineties early two thousands, So I mean I've had centers a few times through the years, but right now, I mean, in the pandemic
just really just really put it into perspective for me. You know, if I need a place to that I want to teach a class, there's plenty of places I can rent space or people that will host me. And I frankly don't want all that overhead, right, you know, And I don't want to have to worry about having to get other people in to help off set the costs and been at one point, I was so busy and I
had two spaces. I had one Imports with New Hampshire one in Portland, Maine, and you know, and I was going back and forth, and I always had full days at both of them. But yeah, you know, then I needed to find somebody to take my spaces on the days I weren't in that location or they were just sitting empty, right, So you know, it is kind of a new way. I mean, this way of doing business. I don't do a lot of it on the internet.
I do a lot of it on the phone, okay. And occasionally some people will say to me, you know, I'd like to be like, well, could we do a zoom? And I'm like, we can do a zoom. I prefer to do phone because I move around a lot. If I'm not sitting in yeah, so I'm not sitting with you and connected with your energy in the same room that I tend to be up and around and I'm moving a lot. And as you know, I mean I've said before, you know, on a busy client day, I might walk eight
or ten miles. I'm just not walking in the woods. Interesting. I wouldn't have thought of that. Yeah. Yeah, so I just like I'm walking right now. I walk. I usually am walking when we do the show. It's a great way to have the energy flow and you know where because one of my area's specialty is ADD and ADHD about all the other stuff. A lot of my ADD clients really get that, and they're sometimes walking on the other end of the phone while I'm working with them, right,
They're like, this works for me. So no, no, that makes sense. Yeah. And of course the other thing is is because I have clients all over the US and in Europe, and so of course they're not you know, they're not going to be buying in from the UK or or France or Switzerland to do an in person office appointment with me, right, so yeah, yeah, so yeah, that all kind of works a good.
I'm glad that that that that's working on your system, because it feels like there was a while there, will you the hypnotherapy kind of took a back seat to the to the to the Matt Connerton radio persona um, and I'm glad that you're bringing more of bringing that back up in a more viable way. I think it's a good balance for you, oh, thank you,
thank you. Well. It's also more lucrative. It's you know, radio unless you're you know, I think Howard Stern took all the money and there's none left over, so you know, you know what I mean, there's there's always the financial concerns. But no, I love all of it though I'm fortunate and that I love. You know, I love radio. I love doing hypnotherapy. I you know, it's all it's it's all good,
so well, and sometimes the two mix. You know, sometimes I have clients I meet in the music industry who want to quit smoking or want to be just more confident on stage or whatever it is. You know, there's a lot of crossover, which is nice. But I don't go out in the woods. So I do it all. Uh, I do it all online. I don't go into the woods. There's a deer ticks, there's uh mountain lions. I think the Blair witches out in the woods. That's frightening to me. So no, I stay safe and sound. Yeah,
you know, is you're gonna live a life in fear? Why bother? Yeah, I appreciate. I mean, I try not to make too many stupid decisions. But I'm also kind of I'm also kind of sort of like, look, I have said for a long time, and I know you've heard me say this, but I haven't said it to you for a while. If I have a gravestone, which I don't even know if I want one, but if I do have a gravestone on my gravestone, I wanted to be I wanted to say he died living. Yeah, that's it.
He died living. Yeah, I've said, because dementia runs in my family. Oh you know, and I and I see my eighty seven year old mother, who is you know, on the one way track in a nursing home in memory care, and you know, sometimes she still remembers me sometimes and sometimes she doesn't remember me at all, And you know, and her father would through it, and her sisters went through it. She had
two of her sisters that went through it. And she said to me before she ended up going in before, you know, everything really got triggered when my stepdad, who was her husband for fifty years, died, and then that I mean, she was she was already showing the signs, but he was kind of hiding it from us. He wasn't coming to us know that.
He was kind of just covering for her. And they lived in Florida and we only saw them, you know, we talked to him on the phone and you know, and stuff like that is but one of the time before he died, I was down there. We drove by a memory care unit and like a memory care specialty home doown. I mean, they're they're all over Florida. I think it's one of the reasons why the political situation got so bad. Whose they can't remember that Jackass moved that the Santas made
last week, so they vote for him again. But anyways, but she pointed it out to me and she said, you know, that's where I'm headed. And I said, okay, And she goes, when I no longer know who you are, I don't want you to come back. Oh wow, because she yeah, I mean, she had that experience of you know, she was in her early thirties and she was the baby of the family, and she was daddy's little girl, you know, like the spoiled last child, and she was in her early thirties when he stopped knowing who
she was. I don't think she ever recovered from it. And then the same thing happened to two of her sisters. So she was like, Yep, when I no longer know who you are, don't come back. M you know, just make sure I'm taken care of. And I was like, okay, but you know, she still has moments, so I still go but yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, but I kind of
I keep that in mind. So I always say, if it's clear that I'm that I'm following my mother's family and not my father's family on this issue, I said, you get me to the point where I can know that it's the mind's going away and it's not going to come back. I'm like, it's a ball of champagne and skydiving. Those straps are cut when I jump right. Yeah, I want to pop a bottle, be drinking champagne and be splattened and have it all done. I have no fear of death.
I have no fear of where I'm going. I don't have any deviant, perverted god that wants to punish me with an eternity of roasting my marshmallows. Yea, all that shit that you can have it. Yeah, I've been having lots of what they called a coming home to Jesus. Meeting about religious nutcases on the shows a lot lately. Oh yeah, yeah, it's like the disgusting amount of indoctrination that happens with these nut case religions, not the not the middle of the road. Hey, that's your way to God.
Great, you go on it, honey, it's your path you live in. The nutcases? Yeah, who twist everything around cherry pick what they want to do. Oh yeah, you know you used to You remember when I used to call them. There were the Bible bullies. Yeah, christ got off the cross, they broke it into four equal pieces of wood, used him as chats to beat people with. Yeah, and I've just had it. I mean, I'm watching these people take power and it's scary.
Last time I saw and you can verify this, All of these book bannings going on generated out of eleven people who created packets of exactly how to go into your school and get these books bans. Yeah. And then they work through through fascist groups like Christian Nationalism, fascist group. It's not Christian, Mom's for liberty, fascist group, not Fastian, Okay, And I'm not Christian. I'm proud of the fact. Oh dear God, don't give me
that disease. I have enough challenges in this life that I'm about getting Christianity. I just it's remarkable to me. I remember being a kid and uh, you know, in the eighties seeing news stories about book bannings and at that time thinking wow, this sounds like something from another time, like from the fifties or something. This is happening now. And I was thinking that then, and now here it is twenty twenty three and they're banning books.
It's wild. It's just incredible. Yeah. Yeah, but I think every opportunity I can to call them off for what they are. In fact, my thing is, I really, you know, the Christians made this mess. They should frank and clean it up themselves. It should be it. There should be a Christian in action group of all Christians that are true Christians living a Christian life that's their belief system, that are tired of having their
Christ perverted and made as the ultimate bully and bad guy. And they're the ones that need to get it in front of all of these fundamental faith and say hey, back off. They should be marching in front of the drag boards to say leave them alone. You're not being very Christian. I think that you Christians made this mess. You need to clean these nut cases up and get them back in line. Yeah. Well, my belief about organized religion is that it's it's generally it has very little, uh to do with
God and much more to do with politics. Um unfortunately. Uh. And that's what people use it because that's what people use it for. They use it for politics. Um, they don't use it. Uh, you know, they don't use it for God. So um. And it's uh And I think it's always been that way. I had that pretty you know, figured out from a pretty young age, you know, like I know my dad would you know, I was Rae's Catholic, and I know my dad's frustrated with me. He would like me to go back to the church and
whatnot. I probably told him, I said, you know, to me, organized religion, it's not about God, it's about politics. And uh. Well and I don't agree. I don't agree with the politics that are being presented by organized religions. So so, and that's an interesting thing math because I would say it's about politics slash power, because there's a lot of ways to have power outside of politics, and church uses all of them.
Shame humiliation, Um, you know discrimination, you know, people people protecting or doing things. And it's so funny because some of the most racist things that go on go on, Well, one good buddy Christian you know, screws over a a bypoc um you know, black or person of color,
which is like they really that means they're all people of color. But anyways, um, you know, being a good Christian to another good Christian buddy and justifying the screwing over the BIPOC person or family is okay because they're supporting their good Christian brother. It's just it's just it's nauseating and I'm going to call it out till the day I die, which is either a cranky old man or they'll lock me off next week and you know, be over with.
But anyways, so let's let's shift to why we have you on this show. I mean I have you on the show because I enjoy talking to you, and I enjoy the ways that you look and see the world, even when they're wrong. But what's been the hot topics for you these days? And I always like to hear what you think that people are not paying attention to as well. So at some point, what you think is a big story that no one's paying attention to. I'd definitely like you to address.
But what's the general what's the general shakedown these days? What are your things happening? Oh, I don't know. It's there's always so much. There's always so much. It's hard to pick something. Like sometimes on my show, there's always so much. It's hard to pick something. Sometimes I just leave it to the audience. I intro the show and see what happens in the chat room, see what that first caller decides to uh to say and uh and then we uh we go from there. It's it's pretty spontaneous.
It's um. I mean, there's always so much. There's you know, Trump's never ending legal problems. There's uh, you know, the war on trans people that seems to be going on in this country, speaking of you know, people using religion for politics. There's uh uh you know, uh concerns about Biden as a candidate for reelection, and you know, cocaine in the White House. Although that I was already on summer break when that story broke. But you know, I mean, there's there's always so much.
I mean, it's hard to pick something if you want to fire something at me. I'll tell you what I think. I can't even pick something. There's so much, Okay, So first of all, before I throw something at you, I do want to put two things out. One is this is where I do like to point out that the religion that I'm involved with, which is an organized religion, is based on the principles Unitarian Universalism
been around two thousand years in some form or another. I mean it goes way back, but that they have principles about how to treat people and how to treat the world, and how to be in the world. And you can belong to that religion and be a Christian, you can be a Muslim, you can be a Buddhist, you can be Jewish, you can be an agnostic, you can be an atheist, you can be a humanist. It's we agree that these are the principles that one should be living their life
in the world. And so I just always like to point that out to people. Because God has, you know, spiritual abuse. People are just starting to recognize how intense and for how long spiritual abuse has not only been tolerated, but has been put up as an example of the good and godly way to do things you know, you know, and so I think that we're going to see I hope, I hope, for the good of humanity, we see some of these these religions that have no that do not live
any of the principles they expose in actions. I want to see them collapse. I want to see them fall in on themselves. I want to see the people turn around and go, I've decided not to be stupid anymore, and turn around and walk away. Because everything you say disagrees with everything you say you believe. And so if we could get all of the hypocrite churches out of the way, you know, it wouldn't be quite so bad.
So I wanted to share that. Yeah, the other thing is on the first Thursday of the month, when you're doing your Thursday's show, drop a hint that people can tune in and call in here if they didn't get to call in your show. I'd love to have more call ins. We get them occasionally here, but I do whatever I can to try to get people to call in, and I love to have callins. But I don't know what it is. We just you know, I know we have people listening.
You know what I you know, I always say on my show, because I do I do, I do do that on you know, when when it's that time, I always I do promote that I'm gonna be on. But I always tell people if you if you're a listener of mine and you get to the end of my show and you say to yourself, oh my god, I need more Matt Connerton, there's a way you can get it, but you have to be willing to share me with doctor Kevin for
an hour and then I tell them how they can find the show. Well, I thank you for that, and I just would do wish I could steal some of your call ins. I'd return them the next morning, I promise, yes, yes, So the first thing I want to do is always we have to we you know, we have to talk about the big circus. It's in town. Where are you thinking where all of the Trump
stuff is? Walter Malta today pleaded not guilty to the fact that they caught him on camera moving the boxes to hide them before the search came for the lawyer came to get the things. Kind of sort of incriminating evidence. But anyways, so, where where are you standing on all of the Trump stuff at this point, What do you think, how is that going to unfold? What is your best guest? Well, I still think he's going to
be the nominee no matter what. The more illegal problems that pile up, the more money he raises, the more devout his followers become, the more they become convinced that it's all just you know, the deep state and the Democrats and the blood drinkers out to get him. And uh so he'll he'll be the nominee. I even if he ends up in jail, He'll still be the nominee no matter what. Sou We'll we'll see. I mean,
I also don't know. I mean this case about the documents, I don't know if that's going to happen, if that's even I know that Judge Eileen Cannon set a trial date of August, but obviously that don't get pushed back. There will be delays and continuances, and there's a lot of questions about whether she can be trusted to be impartial to begin with. So um, we'll see. I mean, I'm I perceived through life just generally skeptical when
it comes to the wealthy and powerful and the elite. And I know his supporters like to pretend that he's not a member of the elite, which of course he is. He's a billionaire. You don't get much more elite than Trump, right, than a billionaire. I you know, we have a system in this country that generally doesn't like to hold the elite accountable for what they do. So I'm always skeptical that, you know, when it seems like, oh, this time, this time, they're really gonna get him.
They're definitely gonna get him this time. I mean, it sure looks like it, you know, because he's got so much going against him legally. It really does look like this time he's going to pay some sort of a price. But but I'll believe it when I see it. But but the sick thing is because he's convinced his supporters, whom you know, he could tell them the sky is green, and they'd all go outside and look up and they'd go, oh wow, I can't believe I never noticed it
before. It is green. Um, you know, it's it's actually good for him. I mean, Maggie Aberman has been reporting that, you know, from her sources, Trump is stressed out. He's worried about you know, nobody likes to be criminally indicted for things. But but it's also good news for him because these indictments they bring in money. They they get that gravy trained rolling. By the way, he's a billionaire. I don't know why he needs all this money, but apparently he does. And uh,
and it works, you know. It's it's a very unique approach to a political campaign, and he's probably the only one who could pull it off. But yeah, the worst it goes for him legally, the better it is for him in terms of phrasing money. So he kind of can't lose in that respect. I mean, don't get me wrong. It makes him a horrendous general election candidate, but it makes him a phenomenal nominee. I mean,
you know, I'm more convinced than ever. And by the way, the polling data shows that he actually is more popular within the Republican Party as these indictments pile up. So so he'll definitely be the nominee. I don't think he'll win the election, but we certainly hope not, but he'll be the nominee. Well, you know, he cannot win an election without some moderates and if nothing, now, all of this I think we'll lose him
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Matt's bringing his Matt Connerson Unleash expertise. You can listen to Matt Connerson Unleash four to six Monday through Friday at wmnh FM, or you can go to Matt Connerson dot com or ip ipm nation dot com and tune in and be part of his chat, part of his conversation. As he divides his time between politics and presenting mostly local musicians. He tried to support the local arts,
which I'm all about. As you may remember, Matt, I had a TV show for two years just doing nothing but supporting local arts and artists. So yeah, I'm a big fan. Matt is also a talent. He's a talented hypnototherapist. And if you go to IPM nation you can see how you can book an in person or a remote appointment. So act actually actually doctor Kevin. If you go to Matt conorcan dot com if you want to book Yeah, sorry, Matt dot com got it. Got the name
set a few extra times. Hey, it was an intense astlet just like I can say time now, uh excellent? Um? Yes, and Matt can hypnotize you and make you think all politics is good and all politicians have your best interests at heart. That's videos right, Matt. I'm not a magic I'm not a magician at Okay. So the Trump train moves on. You think he's still gonna be up in general election. Christie is taking some big pot shots at him, but got gotten a few points from direct right
directly attacking him, um and calling him out on his crap. And Santos seems to be kind of like a fish out of water, flopping all over the places, making big mistakes asn't he? I think people are beginning to view Ronda Santis as a psychopath, which would make sense because I believe he is a psychopath. Um. I I I understand he's trying to appeal to the you know, the hate, the really hateful part of the Republican Party.
But I think he's I think he's gone so overboard with it that even, you know, even even the people who really hate trans people are kind of like, yeah, okay, we hate trans people, but jeez, to dial it back a little bit, U you know. I think he just I think he may have overplayed his hand. Chris Christie has been a lot of fun to watch, though I don't trust Chris Christie because I've never believed that he didn't know anything about what was going on with Bridgegate. So
I think he's lying about that. I think he's always been lying about that. I absolutely believe he knew. But I have to admit there's I've always kind of liked the guy a little bit. Sometimes when he talks, I like to pretend he's a Sopranos character just for fun and uh, and I like the way, I mean, obviously, of anybody in the Republican field, he's been the most aggressive in terms of attacking Trump, and I do enjoy that. And Eric Pilcher, who is I call him my favorite conservatives.
He's a part of my show. We do a regular segment on Wednesdays, and he also does the classic film reviews on my show too. He is actually endorsed. And again Eric's an evangelical conservative, but he has endorsed a moderate northeastern former governor Chris Christie, for for the Republican nomination, to the consternation of many of his peers. In Cedar Rapids, Iowa. He has endorsed Chris Christie. So um, so he's he's kind of fun to watch, but but yeah, I think the Santis is just uh, you
know, he's he just seems like a lunatic. Like the thing about the Santas. You know, usually in politics you try to bring people in, right, you know, you've got your core base who's already with you, but then you try to bring more people in. You know, you want to have as here in this phrase big tent, want to have a big tent party. But the Santis, I feel like he wants to keep his base small, you know, like like he he actually if you're anything approaching
what he calls woke whatever that's supposed to mean exactly. He actually doesn't want you. He doesn't want your vote. He hates you, and he'll tell you he hates you. I mean, I've never seen anything quite like it. And I think it's backfiring and backfiring on him because as much as you know, obviously some Republicans like that kind of thing, I think they recognize
he will be a disastrous general election candidate if he's a nominee. How's that guy going to appeal We're going to appeal to moderates and independence, you know, yep. So where would you lay your money on the odds that you're even going to have a Republican debate, because oh well that is never gonna Trump is never gonna sign the agreement that says he'll back whoever is chosen. Yeah, you're you're gonna have Republican debates. I think the first one is
in August, but Trump won't be there. And and Trump, I mean, I agree with him on this. He says he sees no reason to be there, and I think he's right. Um, when you're that far ahead in the polls and you look pretty untouchable, I refer to him on my show as the presumptive presumptive nominee. Um, when you're that far ahead, there's just no reason. I mean, he said it. He said it to Uh. Who was it? Uh? Really who was interviewing him? Now? Oh? I think it was Brett Bear. He said,
yeah, I mean, why should I? Why should I debate? And I think he's right about that. He has he has nothing to gain from it. So so there will be Republican debates. He just won't be a part of them. And if he's not a part of them, did they really count? I mean what? Well? I think they will be an opportunity for prospective vice presidential candidates to kind of show theirself a little bit.
Like the Senator Tim Scott, for example, I've said regarding his candidacy on my show, I've said from the beginning, he's not running for president, he's running for vice president. He knows he's not going to be the Republican nominee. He's not an idiot, but he knows he does have a shot at being the VEEP. So he's going to continue to avoid criticizing Trump directly. And uh and and he might get picked for VP. So so that
that's another reason to run. Uh. Nicky Hayley, she's actually been a little bit critical of Trump, so she might not be playing that game obviously. Chris Christ he knows he's not going to be veep, and neither is Asa Hutchinson, and neither is uh. Um Who's Who's who else? Was I run the Santas well? This? Yeah, probably not de Santas, although I don't know who knows what goes on in his head, but I think I think Tim Scott definitely is running to be beep. I think what's
his name? I forgot his name now? The mayor of uh is in Miami. Who's running? I think he might be running for viet you know. Again, he doesn't want to criticize Trump directly. Um. Oh, Mike Pence was the other one I was seeing. Mike Pence obviously knows he's not going to be Trump's to veep again, nor will he be the nominee. I think Mike Pence has a book to sell, you know. I mean, there's other reasons to run for president other than wanting to be president.
Maybe you want to be vice president, Maybe you have a book to sell, Maybe you just want to raise your profile for when you run in four years when Trump is out of the way, you know, there's there's plenty of other reasons to run. But Tim, Tim Scott, I think is a particular example of someone who clearly is running for the vice presidency. So now so the Santos will be on the stage, pencil on the stage, Everybody's going to be there, and and Trump is going to sit there
and ridicule them all when it's done. Yeah, I mean he's skipped. Uh, he's skipped debates before. In twenty sixteen, he skipped one of at least one of the Republican debates. And in twenty twenty if you remember, um, we we always get three presidential debates, but we only got two in twenty twenty because Trump backed out of one of them because he wouldn't agree to the rules or something uh for the second debate, so he just
backed out and held a rally instead. Um, so you know, he's he's not afraid to skip them if he sees he has nothing to lose by skipping them. So Biden, what's going on with Biden? Joe? Oh, go ahead. First of all, I want to say, there's only two years difference between Biden and Trump. So how Biden can be too old and Trump cannot be too old is just you know that crazy thinking. Go ahead. Biden, in my view, is selfish. Joe Biden should not
be running for a second term. He should. There are other Gavin Newsom I think would be a fantastic candidate, for example, And he turned a lot of heads in that interview where he was on with Hannity on Fox. People are really looking at Gavin Newsom Biden. Now, part of it is my own. I have a kind of a unique perspective on Biden. This
is how I look at him. I wanted Joe Biden to be president because we were in the throes of a terrible pandemic and we needed somebody who would be serious and consistent about it, which and would be determined to do what had to be done, getting vaccines distributed and so forth, and and would be consistent in messaging. And we weren't getting that from Trump. But I knew we'd get it from Biden, and we did. So. The number one most important thing that I wanted out of Joe Biden, I got it.
We got it great. And there's other things too. There are some things I would critique. There are some things I think I would give him great credit for. But but that's but no, he should not be running for a second term, and him running for a second term if if he you know, if there's more incidents of him falling down on stage or confusing you know, you were talking about dementia earlier, or you know, confusing Ukraine with Iraq when he's making comments, or what I mean, some of
it, it's hard to know. He's always been gaff prone. That's part of that is just Biden being Biden. But you know, sometimes he seems I mean, to some extent its as a matter of energy. Sometimes he seems really energetic and lucid and with it and and you wouldn't guess he was eighty years old. And other times he seems like he needs an app I think that I think he's a terrible candidate for a second term. And polling
data shows most registered Democrats agree. And there's also polling data that shows seventy percent of the country across the political spectrum, seventy percent of the country doesn't want either Biden or Trump in the twenty twenty election. So President Biden, I think, oh, twenty twenty four. That's what I meant. Yeah, sorry, So, uh, President Biden, thank you for getting us through the pandemic. Fantastic job, and I mean that sincerely and uh and
doing some other good things and uh, you know. And I think he deserves a lot of credit, by the way, for his handling of the situation with Ukraine, that balancing act of supporting Ukraine, getting Ukraine the mut missions they need to continue to try to fend off Russia and giving them a really shot at really a real shot at success without going too far and getting us into a nuclear war. That's a very difficult tight rope and he's walking
it and we haven't gotten into a nuclear war. And so I give him great credit for that. So I don't want to sound like I'm just dumping
on Biden, but he should not be running for a second term. And that's my view, and I think he's selfish to do so, and I think he should put the country first and step aside and let somebody else have a crack at it, because if if if Trump ends up eating Biden, well I've only I mean, I understand people assume Biden beat Trump once, he can do it again, but all it's gonna take is for something to happen with Biden that really gets people nervous, you know, maybe a string
of incidents where he's falling down or he's confusing things or whatever, and people are gonna really get worried. And Trump, for all his faults, he doesn't show any signs of physical frailty that I can see. And he doesn't show any signs that he's any less competent than he was in twenty twenty, right, I mean, you know, to the extent that he was competent
to begin with, you know what I mean. So I'm worried. I'm worried that Biden's presence could actually throw the election into Trump, and it's time for somebody younger and more energetic to get in there, in my view. And unfortunately, I don't see Harris being a winning candidates. No, there's a lot of antipathy toward her. Some of it I think is not fair her. Some of it I do understand. She's got a weird habit of laughing in very strange moments where it's like, what is she doing that doesn't
make sense? And there's been a couple of those, and sometimes that's Unfortunately, the way people the way people's memories work, and the way they think about these things, it only takes a couple of incidents like that to cement an impression in people's minds that that's how she is all the time, which is unfair. But yeah, there's a lot of antipathy toward her. Again, a lot of it I think is oversated and overblown and by the way that there is, though, there is time for her to rebound from that.
I mean, she is the logical choice, being the current vice president. But but I think Gavin Newsom would be a phenomenal general election candidate. I really do. Well, yeah, I mean, and he's doing very quiet things which are positioning him to step in that position. If Biden says I've decided not to run, well, I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think, I mean, I mean, barring some sort of health crisis, I don't think Biden's going to say that. But I do
think Newsom is setting himself up for twenty twenty eight. I think he's got twenty twenty eight on his radar. The I mean, my dream team would be you know that something happens and I don't want to say something happens to Biden that takes him out of the election, but something happens that Biden goes, Yep, this is not a good choice. And then I really think that my I look at the dream team could be Newsome and Pete. Yeah,
I know you're very very fond of Pete Botage. And I think that if Pete got some years in his vice president the next time he ran for president, he would be golden. I mean, he's he's done some good stuff as Secretary Transportation, and he gets down in it and he holds his own every time he's interviewed, even when it's by hostile interviewers. I mean, he does well. He seems to be the I've noticed this. Uh. He seems to kind of be the go to Biden administration official to go
on Fox and uh and defend Biden's policies. And and he's very he's very adept at doing that to be the one to have to go to Fox to do that. Um, he seems to be the go to guy for that. And and he's he's very good. He's very good at that. He
knows what he's doing in terms of talking and presenting things pretty sharp. Yeah, and you know, I mean, but I know what you're saying about Nussen, and I do you know he's out there, so we could only help because I mean, the worst thing that in the world that could happen would be that Trump stumbles into getting reelected. And it's a real possibility, you know, And I just I just wish somebody could could talk to about it. Didn't go. Look, you're going out on a high note,
right, you have established your legacy. You know, his time in the Senate eight years is VP and now four years as a president. This is this is the time to take your bow, you know. Yeah, but we'll see, because I don't know that this country, I mean, Trump repeatedly lists his revenge list if he gets elected. I don't have a great hope of this country with if Trump got into office for four more years, the amount of damon she could do, especially with this kangaroo court in the
Supreme Court. Well, Asa Hutchinson, to his credit and by the way, h Hudson assa Hutchinson trouble with his name, former governor of Arkansas and very conservative. I probably don't agree with him on much, but to his
credit, I think He's been very good at pointing out that. And this was I believe he presented it as the main impetus for him getting in is that Trump talks about, you know, being vindictive, and it seems as he just wants to get back into the presidency aside from you know, trying to uh maybe it'll help him with his legal issues, Like he just wants to get revenge on everybody. He just wants to get back in there to uh for vindication and uh and and that's not a good reason to uh.
I forget exactly how Asa Hutchinson put it. He said something about the politics of vindictiveness or something, but um, I forget exactly how he said it, but it was very good. It was it was spot on. And that's what he points out. That's why Trump wants the presidency to get back at his enemies, not for the country, not for the you know, not for the good of the American people, not to be a leader,
to get back at his enemies. That's that's the whole thing. Yeah, except for a lot of people that have drunk the Trump kool aid feel like somehow Trump getting even with his enemies is a win for them, right, Well, because yeah, because Trump is very good at doing the inclusion thing. Oh, they're not just after me, They're after all of us. They hate all of us, and they fall for it. They absolutely fall for it. They'll believe anything, Like I said earlier, they'll believe anything
he tells them. Well, I think that we're just there's there is a lot more that's going to happen between now and that general election, and we're gonna have to kind of hold on tight and see where it goes. But you are still pretty like no one is gonna unseat Trump and Biden would only go away at Biden's choice. Yes, that is that is what I believe we're getting. We're getting a Trump Biden rematch that nobody wants, but that's
what we're getting. Congratulations America, We've done it again. So do you think that anything is going to come about with all of the corruption that's coming out of the Supreme Court? Are they no? Are they being on being beyond touch? Or do you think that if we got a democratic full democratic Congress, that they might take the Supreme Court on? No, I don't think anyone has the stomach to take them on. And uh no, I don't think look, none of it surprises me. I've never understood. I
did an entire segment on my show about this. I've never understood why people think that the Supreme Court is any different from the other two branches of government. You know, why they think the judicial branch is somehow above it all, just because they're not elected by the people, and you know, like the like the the executive and the legislative, they're they're part of the elite. You don't get much more elite than a Supreme Court justice. And they
don't care. That's why they're so arrogant about it. That's why they get caught and they don't care. That's why Justice Clarence Thomas, you know, he couldn't care less what you think. Um, I don't believe John Roberts. People. You know, all is handwringing about oh, Chief Justice John Roberts. He's got a you know, he's he's probably very concerned about repairing the how people perceive the Supreme Court. I'm telling you he doesn't care.
I can't. I don't believe for a second John Roberts cares. I've never believed for a second in my life that the Supreme Court really is above it all. They are not. They're just as capable of being, just as corrupt as anybody else. Well mad. We'll see how the world is changed in four weeks. Thanks for Jenny Journy, You're my best. To Jenny, I will and you take care of yourself and enjoy the rest of this warm, moist air, all right. Thanks everybody, Thanks doctor Kevin, Bye bye h