A passionate instigator and dynamic problem solver. Doctor Kevin ross Emery, the host of the Doctor Kevin Radio Show. We'll be taking you outside the box, behind the curtain and identifying the load of bs we are fed every day. And now Doctor Kevin, Hello, Hello, hello, and welcome back to the Doctor Kevin Show here on Home Times. And this as we do almost
every we miss last month. Last month was the month that was not But we are now back into the months that is that month is that monthly time of the month we are having our time of month we call planetary influences where we reach out into the stars and the skies. We see what the month, so our next planetary influence looks like astrologically, and what does that mean to you? Think of it as a weather forecast? Is the weather forecast
that are the energies. We do this with none other than Rob Stewart. I'm as called your Robert, which meant you are in trouble, Rob Stewart from Intercenter dot org, Aircenter Astrology dot com. And you know, part of being getting the most out of the weather forecast is to understand how that weather affects you. There could be storms going on in California. But if you're standing in New Hampshire, they probably don't affect you a whole lot,
but they affect you a lot less. If those storms are really horrible in California, well by the time they get here, they're a little bit of sprinkly rain. They don't affect you as much. If they create tornadoes. If you're living in an Idaho, well that makes a big difference. When it comes to astrology, it's all about knowing what your chart is. Who are you? Where are your houses? Where are these shady set of characters that hang out in the skies hiding in your own very chart? What houses
do they hide in? What internal dialogues do they have with themselves in each other in those rooms, in those houses of your astrology charts. We don't even want to know if they're picking fights with any of the other planets.
We know as the weather goes through that that can make something get much more intense, or it might be mediated, because you know, you get somebody just kind of mellowing out in the third and somebody in the ninth is half asleep and so they don't really care, so it might be a much bigger deal. To your spouse or your child, or your parents, or your boss or your employee than it is to you. But you ain't gonna know
if you don't really understand your chart. So here on the Doctor Kevin Show, we always recommend and invite you to reach out to Rob at Inner Center Astrology dot com and you know, get your charts done, let him kind of tell you where all this stuff is, and then you tune in here once a month and get a free update on unlike, what's what's affecting your
chart? I mean, let's talk about endless value? Because you know, Rob is stuck with me for eternity because even if he dies, I'm the medium, so I'll bring him back and make him talk to you anyway. So you're all set. Ah. That being said, we are a live call in show and you can call in at two O two five seven seven five seven. That's two O two five seven seven O five seven. Call
in and ask your questions, see where things are affecting you. Ask any other questions really that you would like Robert I to answer on this show as long as they're respectful. So, Rob, how did I do? Did I give you enough floods in that intro. Yeah, yeah, now that's that was that was great. It's great to be bad. I can after that month month off where there was no astrology whatsoever apparently, and but we're back here to talk about it all and keep you updated. Well, you
know, it's kind of like last month we had a power shortage. So it wasn't that there wasn't astrological weather. It's that we did have no way to communicate it. Ah. So we're going to keep this in perspective. I don't want somebody to go I want listen to the Doctor Kevin Show and the astrology said. Let that last month we had no astrology. How does that happen? Somebody will tank you literally, ah, you know, probably a Virgo or a Capricorn even could be a tourist. So they thin're gonna
be like, well that's what they said. I mean, isn't that what they've ent? How does that work? Ah? Oh ah? Anything Before we jump into the astrology new or exciting on your end of the world, we've spoken for a couple of months. I'm going to assume that you missed me last month, and if you didn't lie, so you know, it makes me feel good. Yeah. Well, no, it's always it's always fun to chat about this stuff on the third Thursday in the month and and
I did miss it. It's it's fun to chat about all this um and uh. But yeah, you know, for me, I'm just excited that summer is just beginning and it's such a such a wonderful time of year and um, so I'm really enjoying that, you know, being outside and enjoying that warmer weather we're having here. Um, we get the whole summerhead. So I'm I'm feeling good. So um. The other thing is, so the new class is coming up, no doe things happening and you want to
share, but full we jum into the astrology. Um. Well, so the classes, the classes I hold, they they start up in the fall. Um. Um. There were some classes in the last fall that I was teaching um locally, on and online, and the next round of classes will begin this fall. So oh yeah, we'll talk about that when that comes up. But other than that, no, um yeah, no,
no big news. Um. Yeah, So I'm going to invite you too, And I'm assuming you haven't been there for a while unless you saw the enormous amount of social media I've been doing on it and not a curious that they clicked through. You have to check out the new look and the new branding and the new logo and the new new new of Kevin Ross every dot com m hm. Since we last met, my new stuff has launched. Have you had a chance to check out the website? I saw, I
saw something brief about it. Um, I haven't had the chance to check it fully out, but that that's really exciting and very cool. Yep, of course I did. I did. I did the astrology chart for the for the for the from the new Kevin Ross. Emory ended up getting like six planets all up in the ninth and the tenth conjuncting each other and tourists for the actual day launch and said, yeah, that sounds like good energy for where I'd like to see my business go. From lovely little tweaked positive
energy in the second house. I'm like, yeah, we're good. Ah. And for those of you that are for those of you that are listening, going, what does that mean? You mean my business is affected by astrology? Well, of course, you dumb shit, of course it is. You know, there's you in the business, but the business itself has its own astrology charted. It has its own life, it has its own energy, It has its own moment of birth, even if it's a brief
birth. Ah. But I I know that I have and I'm sure you have often worked with entrepreneurs or people launching a business to say, what is going to set the best tone for my business? And a lot of times people you know, like I know, I've done astrology for people's wedding dates and for you know, all sorts of different you can do event astrology. And you know, is there anything you'd like to share about event astrology before
we hop into the stuff? Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, astrology is about cycles, and everything has a birthday sort of speak. You know, everything has a moment in time in which it is launched or breathed, you know, for the first time, and so from that respect, and there's absolutely cycles that spring forth given that initial birth time. And you know, you even think of, um, you know, something simple like a a business meeting that you set on a certain day that sets
the timing and sequence for the days oftentimes that you meet again. Um, but in astrology gets far more complex than that. And um, there's really when you work with the natural cycles of life that astrology points towards. There can be optimizing and you know, putting your best look forward in life. And so that's the way I see it, and that's how I help clients
and whatever endeavor they're they're working on. You know, there's so many different ways to utilize astrology to help make decisions, to extend it beyond yourself, to even see the into relationship. I don't know if you do this. I know that when I have an entrepreneur that's going to launch a business, not only do I look at what would be a great date for the business, but I look at is it a great date for that entrepreneur? Does
the entrepreneurs chart and the business chart actually get along? Yeah? And you know, again, these are the kind of subtle things that people that go astrology. You mean, the thing that's in the newspaper that says because I'm I'm in aries that blah. Yeah, Now that's actually not actually really astrology. It's just people stealing astrological words and making up statement to a great part.
I mean, wouldn't you agree, Yeah, I would agree. You know, the newspaper form of astrology, you know, the horsecopes you see in the Sunday paper or whatever it is. Um, that's that's very Um. You know, the sun sign is just one component of the chart, and it's it's you know, I think it it made you more of a
disservice to the study of astrology than it does a service. Um, because that's, like you said, typically what people think of, you know, when they think of astrology, those little blurbs that may or may not fit you know, um, any one particular person. Um, I think they're real disservice to the study of astrology. Yeah. And UM, I think there was a time when it helped make astrology a household word, and that was a positive thing. It's it made it more accept acceptable among the masses,
so to speak. But then there was a point where it's started doing more damage than good. I would agree. So now we've had our philosophical conversations. But do you know next month, I'm going to say, so, Rob, did you get a chance to look at the website? So just just click on any of those videos. What did you say? Tell
me whatever questions you have. So you have been forewarned that this week, this month, you get a pass because I didn't have last month to say, watch for this rob because I'm gonna want to know what you think. So you get one free pass and then I turned that gas burner on high and you know where you're gonna end up sitting. Ah. And I invite
all my listeners to please come out. And if you have my doctor Kevin link, it will take you to Kevin ross Emory dot com and you can find out why I've moved away from my doctor Kevin and I have moved into Kevin ross Emery dot com Inspirational catalysts. So there's a mouthful for you. Ah, So onward and upward. What's going on astrologically? Yeah, um, well let's see. So speaking of new beginnings, you know, we
do have a new moon on June eighteenth. Technically it's midnight at on June seventeenth, so it's right at midnight between those two days, and um, you know, new moons indicate a time of new beginning. It's a great time to really tune in and set intentions for the month and six months ahead. And you know it's you know oftentimes and athletes know this pretty well,
is it's often helpful to visualize what you're trying to accomplish. And that can be done in a very elaborate way or in a not so elaborate way. But setting an intention is very similar to sort of a visualization of what what it is you want to do or start or create or whatever that is.
And so new moons are astrologically speaking, phenomenal times for that. And we have this next new moon on June eighteenth, or the midnight of June seventeenth, and this new moon is at twenty six degrees Gemini, and Gemini is it's a time, it's a it's you know, a healthy Gemini is about understanding, perceiving, listening, exchanging information and speaking and communicating those types of things. So this is this is a great time for new beginnings in terms
of taking in information, learning new information, speaking new information. But there is there's sort of a caveat with this new moon and that the new moon is making a square to Neptune, and so some of the pitfalls to this square. This is what's considered a hard aspect to Neptune, is that this can be a time where there's a sort of rose colored glasses with regards to information or communication and things like that. So this is sort of over the
next six month period. This is a great time to really be through some of these old things that maybe there was some rose colored glasses that you were wearing that we're all wearing in some way, because of course, you know, life is is much like that. You know, we're walking and navigating
through life and making interpretations of the world around us. We project things into the world, of course, and a new moon and Gemini is saying, hey, you know, sit quietly, take in, learn, share, exchange, and be um not surprised of course when um you know that you see, when you begin to see when we see things before the truth of the matter um down the road. And I'm sure you know I've had many many experiences of to that. I'm sure doctor Kevin you have as well.
And each listener has had those experiences where it's like, oh, wow, you know, I'm seeing this in a bit a different perspective than before. Those things are certainly being activated now with this new moon cycle, and let's see, Yeah, do you do you have any thoughts about that? Doctor Kevin does. Yeah, that's screwing up to you. So we've brushed by this before, but I'm going to brush by it again because I feel like it's an important it's an important thing for people to keep in mind that.
Yeah, I mean always. The power of neptune is to see a clear is that when you see a clearer version of reality and you push past the delusion of the illusions that come with neptune, that there are inherently rewards with that. That Neptune rewards you forgetting that clarity. It's it's like when you get the clarity, you are able to go somewhere or take it somewhere, or realize something that is far better or far greater, or it's far more
impactful than the illusion would even though the illusion was whatever it lost. And so I'd like to point out that because the Tune is one of those planets where her people often are like, where whatever neptunes involved, that's a bad deal, And I'm like, no, no, no, actually it's a really good deal. It's just usually a painful deal because you have to have
the pain of seeing the truth. The other thing is is we we kick around and I know you and I've talked about it again, but I never know what listeners were on listening to that show and what new listeners or listeners are here that weren't here before rose colored glasses. We have a tendency to move towards the fact of that we see it better. And they're not always
rose colored glasses that happen during this time. It can be it can be crappy, brown colored glasses where we are always seeing the worst of things. I mean, like it's it's about correcting illusions and the typical when anybody says rose colored glasses, it's like, oh, you're being innocent, you're being naives. You're not seeing the reality as if the reality is always going to
be worse. And sometimes it is that the reality actually is maybe the person wasn't so bad, or maybe the situation wasn't so that sometimes the reality is actually an upgrade. And so I like to keep that out there because people will miss that side of it. I mean, does that make sense wrong?
Absolutely? Absolutely, a great point. And you know in the in the Course of Miracles that in the course of miracles they speak about how you know, the world we see isn't the world that God created or Source created or whatever word works. It's world we've created through our interpretations, our projections, our labeling, or this means that this is that and That's why you know, people can enter the same room and be triggered by different things because
they've had past experiences in different ways. And so we're interpreting and labeling and navigating this world through interpretations that we are making. And I love your analogy of the coffee color glasses because there's so many times, UM, I know in my own life where I would see monsters sort of speak you know, metaphorically, and in reality there was no monster at all. You know, we we you know, the the there's things that we that stress us out,
UM, that stress me out. But when UM, I question and look and really analyze that type of thingum, or see it through a different you know, without the analytical mind, but but really seeing in a deeper way that there was nothing to be stressed about at all. And so UM, so yeah, great point about the color glasses. They don't have to be rose that maybe they're Murphy. But either way there's something that um,
we might be seeing and interpreting that isn't the full picture. UM. And with this new moon being in Gemini, I want to take this one step further that during kind of this six month cycle of this Gemini moon, to it becoming a full moon in Gemini, where it's going to come is for
this six months things that come to your attention during that. I always look at it as a three day period of the new moon is an invitation that you're likely to get new data which you will not interpret correctly if you try to interpret with your older lens. And so to me, it's an invitation to step back and go, you know, maybe I need to try to see this in a completely different way. Maybe I need to let go of
my preconceived notions or my perceptions, you know. And so I think with it being this, this new moon in Gemini and where is Neptune, Neptunes and Pisces, and with Neptunes and Pisces, which, well, there we go, and boy doesn't it love being there. It's like I'm home,
draw me a bath and hand me a glass of champagne. But that, especially with it being in Pisces, it could be talking about prejudices that you brought forwards from past lives or from your past in this life, and that if you were to recognize them as that you have preconceived prejudices, that is the lens you're looking through that this next six months is going to give you data that if you could put that down, it would be transformational for you
in a positive way. Does that make sense? Yeah, now I hear you. And you know, someone that I've talked about a lot in my strology practice is the approach of Byron Katie, and she has a wonderful approach that involves a worksheet. It's totally free online. It's called the Judge your Neighbor Worksheet, and it's a practice of questioning your stressful thoughts or your judgments of others. And it's a wonderful practice to come to inner peace in the
face of this type of thing. You know, it doesn't change the world around you, but it's a guidance and pathway to find inner peace. And that's what it's really all about, um, because of course there's things in this world that may or may not be changed as much as we knock our
heads on the brick wall, you know. But anyways, I did want to bring up her practice because it's a great along the lines of what you're what you're saying, and with this Gemini new moon with a Neptune aspect, well, and I think this is interesting because you know, you're talking about your classes in the fall. And in the fall, I'm releasing a new Communication Mastery course and the first module, which is the first twelve classes that
people would take, they'll be saying they'll be the classes. They'll take two classes and then I'll have a classroom. I'll have a zoom classroom to you know, take questions and stuff once a week for the for it on Communication Masteries. The whole first, the whole first twelve classes is about clearing communication
within yourself. It's like, you know, it's it's I call it the me versus me and all of the competing voices we have in our had sitting right there in our subconscious from the ways which we were indoctrinated and our trauma, and you know, like just so many different voices that give us conflicting messages floating up from our on conscious and you know, and astrology is you know, always a whole set of voices its own that interplays with those.
So yeah, so it's an interesting time. So moving along, Yeah, well, moving along. That's that sounds like an awesome, awesome course. Um and uh let's see so okay. So on June twenty feet the sun enters cancer and um. You know for the so for the next month beginning June twenty first, the move the sun will be moving through the constellation of cancer and UM. You know it really it's a time of bringing uh the light and putting the spotlight in our own lives related to our emotional body,
you know, our feeling, our inner emotional life. You know, the feeling of nourishment. How are you being nourished? What do you due to bring nourishment and safety, emotional safety and belonging into your life. You know. The one of the symbols of cancer and astrology is the crab. And you know, there's an interesting point in the crab's journey where its shell becomes too restrictive and too tight and it must um, you know, forge a
new shell. But during that period of time, of course, it's very vulnerable and sensitive, and you know, it's its body becomes very soft as it's um what's it called when you're creating that new shell um. But that's that's very similar to the energies of cancer. It's this very sensitive energy UM,
and so it does need protection. But the challenge with cancer and over this next month is you know, what's the minimal defense is and shell that you need for survival, you know, and by survival that's an extreme word, but what I mean is that, you know, with too heart of a shell, UM can really block us off from from life. But too
thin a shell feels too vulnerable. And so cancer is about, you know, really finding that balance between protection and um um, you know, connection with that outer world so that you can feel your feelings and all these things. And as a cancer sun doctor, Kevin Um, I'd like curious in
how you feel about that? What you know, what are some other metaphors for that cancer journey that um you're on in your life with with that cancer sun Well, you know, one of the one of the things about cancer is ye know, And so I'm gonna start this with the under opinion of
there's so much evidence put on sunshine. And as you and I know, and we try to stress there on a regular basis, it is an important part, but it's not the only part that plays plays And I can you know, as a cancer that's a double scorpio rising in moon, it's a whole different cancer than if I was a cancer with a double arish, you know. But I think the cancer, the cancer gets crabby when it doesn't feel safe. And I think that part of the journey of the cancer is
that it is it's a journey. It's a journey of finding that in that internal connection to source to spirit like all water signs with that depth of that depth, but in it to find the safety in being vulnerable, and you
you refer and love as I do Bernet Brown and Oliver vulnerability work. And I think that cancer is inherently feel like the hard shell protects them from the fact that they're so soft inside and that they are so sensitive, and that they are very affected not only by their own emotions but by other people's emotions, and that that shell that they form as a protective shell, that if it is, if it's a protective shell of being empowered and connected with spirit,
you are rock and all the best qualities of cancer. If it is is a shell that is made out of manipulation and using other people's emotions because you have such an insight to them to get what you want. To feel safe, to be overly possessive, I mean, some of the negative places that cancers go is still all a bid to try to feel safe, to feel protected, and when a cancer is exposed, Their vulnerability is exposed.
That's that soft shell that they've bolted the hard shell. And they've fallen in love again, or they've tried a new career, or they've tried something and saying, here I go again. And now there's a certain amount of vulnerability that's evolved with it. And am I the empowered cancer that has learned that
I have killer intuitive instincts. I will know which roads to travel, I will know where not to walk because the bird will come down and swoop down and grab me and splat my ass all over a rock and eat me. Um, you know. And that but that the the the or you know, versus what I call the krabby cancer. It's not cancer the crab, it's not crabby cancer. Who's who gets protected by literally keeping people away?
Does that make sense? Yeah? No, for sure. Um, you know, in that I would see the sun sign in a chart as part of the sole purpose of a person's journey. And and so what's interesting is what I find is that the sun placement um in your chart, it's not that you already are that, it's that there's something worth exploring in that area of life. And and so you know, in cancer in which you spoke
to UM. You know about that that balance between the vulnerability and protection and navigating the emotional feeling intuition that the feeling body, the emotional body, UM
seems to be the guiding light. And you know, over the next month, all of us are being UM asked for to speak who navigate and sent into that and you know, have the courage to UM be vulnerable with your own emotions, our own emotions, and but but to be UM to have the necessary protections in place so that we're not you know, tuning into everyone's
emotional life and and vibrating to someone else's accordance. You know, UM, I have never met anybody with a lot of cancer energy that I haven't had to teach how to shield right right right, Yeah, So you know, over this next month, that's that's sort of part of something that we're all moving through in some way or another. Okay, and I hear the sound of our first break and we'll be right back with Rob Stewart from Intercenterathology dot
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and welcome back to the Doctor Kevin Show here on Home Time. So we are here doing our we a our once a month planetary Influences with Rob Stewart at Intercenter Astrology dot com. As always, we encourage you to rip out your astrology chart and if you've got one online and you really don't know what it says and it all kind of looks like gibberish, I highly recommend you
reach out to Rob Stewart at Intercenter Astrology dot com. You know, get him to actually cast your chart and help you understand how this can be a very important and viable tool to give you more information with which to make better decisions in your life. And this is what Planetary Influence, we thought it tries to do once a month, is to tell you what the astrological weather
is and whether it is a good time or not. See the pun there to make a decision buy something, sells something, leave a job, whatever that you know astrology can give us when the weather is more in our favor, you know, and when we may be working against the wind. So continue the progress we have. We have extolled the fact of of what it means to be the best sun sign in the zodiac. Thank you very much,
and we can move on to the next thing. So yeah, So saturns retrograde on June seventeenth, and um, Saturn's moving through Pisces right now. And you know when a planet goes retrograde, um, it's it's a time of rethinking, reevaluating, reassessing, um, the energies related to that planet in that sign. And so with Saturn, Saturn's really about uh, you know, maturity in life. It's about real three dimensional life. You know, when the the sort of wheels hit the pavement. You know,
it's just about reality this. You know, it'd be nice if we were well maybe it'd be nice for for some of you, but I think it'd be nice if we're just souls flying around. And um, if you you you parked your car too fast, it wouldn't be a problem. Um. But of course we live in a three dimensional world where there's physics and um and all that type of stuff, and Saturn represents that represents the reality, the physical limitations in this world, responsibility, self, discipline, all those
types of things. And so as Saturn goes retrograde beginning in June seventeenth through November fifth, it's a time of sort of writing those sailboat sort of speak and looking at reassessing where in life are you UM need to be more mature, and in Pisces, it's related to the transcendence of self. You know, the Pisces is largely about transcending this sort of the egoic daily reality that
we live in. This you know, the idea that I'm this person, this is my story, this is that in this whole sort of story that we tell about ourselves. Pisces is about transcending that and seeing emerging with something
far larger than self. And with Saturn retrograde in Pisces, it's a great time to really reassess and write the boat in areas where maybe you've been hanging on to that sense of self, that that ego identity in a in a way that um isn't necessary or is being asked to be removed in some way. And you know, a classic example would be, you know, say a family issue, and you know a family situation where you're being asked to let go of your ego and really see the bigger picture and um, something
far beyond self. But of course in an empowering way. There's plenty of plenty of ways of doing what I just said in a very unhealthy way. Um, but you know what we're talking about here is doing things in a really empowered and mature and self disciplund way and really for all of us to grow up, you know, in areas of our spiritual life, in areas
of our transcendence of this story of daily egoic reality that we're in. And I do want to say that there is there's a really wonderful aspect of this retrograde Saturn and that it makes a sex stile to Jupiter as it's stationing retrograde, and that's really bringing opportunities and expansion in our lives when we're sort of aligning our self and our story with a higher truth, with a higher reality and a sort of um, I guess, for lack of a better word,
a more spiritual view, healthy spiritual view of reality. Do you have
any thoughts about that, doctor Kevin? Well, you know, one of the funny things is it is it is the journey of understanding the role you as the soul plays and embracing concepts like divine love and divine compassion, and it is evolving into a place where you are taking and destroying the structure that does not serve you, and at the same time you are reinforcing things that act as structure, but are not a limiting structure, but creates a structuring
that allows you to step into the in that lists. Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, And with that sex style and the stationary Saturn with Jupiter, you know, Jupiter the great benefic It says, if you can do this with no desire for world worldly rewards, there will be great worldly
rewards by doing it. But if you're only doing it for great worldly rewards, then you're already flunk to test and there won't come, or they'll be fleeting, or they'll come at a price that in retrospect you will decide we're not worth paying, right right, Well, hey, you know ahead,
yeah, no, um, you know it's a great point. You know, oftentimes we expect or wish for blessings and in the worldly domain, but of course blessings can occur in many, many ways, um, that go far beyond the material um um return material realms and so you know, um, you know, so that's something, uh, you know, if we only expect material blessings, we're going to be missing out in all the great
expanse of other ways the blessings can reach you. Um. And I think oftentimes in this world, because you know, money material, it is very focus on that if we expect that's the way to be blessed, we're going to be really starved in other ways that we're being supported naturally um when we just look you know, to those those other ways. And I think that
one of the one of the limitations. And I don't want to expouse on this too much and run out of time on you, because I don't know how many more aspects you have to cover in this, but one of this is we have this black and white mentality around abundance and wealth and stuff that because there is a black and white, both are wrong because everything shades of grey. And so you know, there is this whole idea that you know, like a rich man can't get to heaven or that somehow you pay with
the price of your soul to be wealthy. Well that's not true. But also that there is some great awareness to or there is some great higher value to being poor, and that's not true. And then we go really batshit crazy with the kind of idea that if they have money, that it must mean that they're better than we are, or no more than we are, or are traveling on some higher level. Well, god knows that ain't true.
Like we have all of these really delusional fantasies about the relationship between abundance and value and religion and spirituality, and you can throw them all in a trash bag and throw them away because they're all wrong. You know, their beliefs about things you know, well, they're also ways of sometimes leveling the play field. Somebody sees a rich man can think, you know, I've
dealt with very wealthy people who are having miserable moments or miserable lives. Bad things happen to wealthy people, just like bad things happen to poor people, and the whole thing as well, it would be better with money. Well, actually no, it actually, I mean, yeah, there are things that are better with money, and there are actually sometimes things that are better
without money. Because you don't know who are the hell to trust, and you have more people trying to screw you over and ly into your face and taking an advantage of you. And I mean, like none of it is a picture perfect, clean, little neat formula. But they're desperate part as people who don't understand that abundance comes from within, and when you are abundant
within, you will be abundant in your life. But abundant may not look to other people as abundant who are measuring it on a scale that you have outgrown as seeing relevant. Does that make sense, Yeah, yeah, it does, it does. And you know, I often, you know, there's there's so much talk about manifestation and life, and there's ruth to that, of course, and very you know, but I think it goes far beyond then the you know, I want to manifest this car or whatever.
You know, we're manifesting all the interpretations um that we're seeing in the world in very subtle ways, of course, but the um, you know, I want to manifest less anxiety in my life, you know, less stress, and and for me that that, UM, the path for that is really questioning those stressful thoughts, um, rather than manifesting them um. And which uh you know, Byron Katie's approaches is an approach that. UM. I really I think it's helpful there because we don't we often don't talk about
the manifestation of stress that we do in our own lives. UM. And really the focus has been from what I've seen, is man infesting wealth or you know, things of that nature. Um. But anyways, that's a that's another whole topic. M. Yeah, So let's go. I keep going because I don't want to run out of timeline. You yeah, yeah, yeah, so um okay so UM. Neptune also goes retrograde shortly after Saturn goes retrograde. Neptune we'll go retrograde on June thirtieth, and we'll continue
retrograde through December six. Neptune's in Pisces, as we mentioned before, and has been in Pisces since two thousan eleven. Neptune is a very low moving planet in the sky, and so when Neptune goes retrograde, it's really about getting more clarity in life. And this is something we talked about with this new moon UM squaring Neptune. But Neptune going retrograde is really asking us sort of speak to really, you know, face reality in our lives. You
know, what's what's being more clear, what's less murky? What's being less cloudy? And just like you mentioned earlier, you know those coffee shaded glasses, are they getting less murky? You know things that like I mentioned earlier about the stress I create my life and I'm sure others create in their life, you know, um, questioning that and really getting more clarity with that, Neptunes, this is a great time for over these next six months.
It's also a time of great for rooting out addictions or different escapisms. You know, Um, I'm sure many of us with devices. I know, I'm just like anyone else, can get caught up in my device and computer. And you know, it's the dopea means we get from from scrolling through the news or whatever it is, has really been shown to be similar to other addictive substances in life. And so this is a great time to whether it's computers or other types of substances, a great time to kind of root
those out and get more clarity and self honesty in that. Um. And it's also a great time for meditation, journaling, really tuning in to uh, you know, being still and quiet and listening to you know, I like to say, echoes from eternity, you know, those those sort of um messaging that we get from life itself, from sorts itself. And to be listening and to really right the ship in your um, spiritual life UM,
to to live the best life you can um. Any thoughts on neptune retrograde, Doctor Kevin Well, I think that it is a time that it's
and I'm going to go back. It's been one of my popular words a lot lately for a number of different reasons and clients and in classes and talks and social media post whatever is indoctrination and Neptune retrograde is going in and asking you to shake off the ways in which you were indoctrinated and to find within yourself your own relationship with God, the Spirit, with your sense of higher self, with yourself as a as a spiritual being that is both spiritual and
physical. That so much of what has limited you was not measuring up to somebody else's interpretation of what that needed to look like or feel like, or or how to display it or how to prove it. Even the fact anytime I that any spiritual teacher or religion or religious nutcase out there starts talking about how you have to prove your love or or fealty to God. I know that they're full of shit. Yeah, I'm like, you're you're you're a
sight shoe freak running a big circumstent. Get away from me. God doesn't need to prove a damn thing. You just want to take advantage of the fears of people so that you can grift off of them, right right, So this is a time to build that journey of that internal relationship. And it doesn't mean you have to do it alone. You can find the right mentor you can find the right people that can help give you clarity about your relationship personal unique to you with God, Goddess, al a Buddha, spirit
whoever, and you as a spiritual being. But it doesn't have anything to do with which need you bend or what sign you make or Nope. So that's my take on it. Yeah, now, right on, right on yet and in just briefly, the last thing was it was a full moon and capricorn July third, and um, this is a time for completion for you know, what is it you're building in life? What do you are you walking the walk? You know, are you being that person in the
world that you know you can be. Are you creating something tangible? Are you creating something sturdy? Um? It's really a time to reflect on your harmonizing of your inner world and the outer world, you know, the outer world being what you're creating, what you're building, um, and that sort of thing, and is it can it withstand the the the unavoidable um herkey jerkyness of the world. This full moon has a square to a venus and Mars have a square to yurnus. So it's just it's asking us, you
know, to to to focus on that stability in our life. What are you creating? Um? Are you walking that walk? And you have that sturdy foundation on you that you know you um have and can build in life? Okay, yeah, and that's it. That's all I got. Well, it's it's almost like, okay, we're not quite done, but we're closely done. What small kid of worms? Can I open? Right leap? Yeah? That's a tough one, you know, it's kind of that
like oh okay, yeah, yeah. I do want to remind people that if you look back when when we had a capricorn new moon, that the things that were up then the things that that were things that you started then or you did things with then, are coming into fruition for this full moon. So go back and see what was going on. Give yourself a little edge to maximize this full moon. It'sound about right, mister Rob. That's right, that's right. Yeah, great, thanks for having me on,
Doctor Kevin. Have a great month. And and then next month, yeah, and next month, I want to spend a little bit of time take a peek at my solo return, and we'll talk about a solo return and you know, bring up a few things we can talk about. Obviously we'll go over all the aspects, but let's show our listeners what you would get if they booked a solo return with you, at least a little a little taster. Does that work for you, Rob, Yeah, let's do it.
Okay, there we go. Hey, So we'll see you guys next month, and I'll see you next month, and I'll look forward to seeing what my astrology chart is going to do to me this year.